Post by: Pete on December 30, 2017, 07:48:36 AM
Post by: Pete on December 30, 2017, 07:50:21 AM
Post by: wetwillie on December 30, 2017, 07:51:08 AM
Post by: Pete on December 30, 2017, 07:52:33 AM
Post by: The Big Train on December 30, 2017, 07:56:00 AM
Post by: Pete on December 30, 2017, 07:58:02 AM
Announcing new OC
That's what the Kstateonline guy, Derek Young, thinks too. Still reading this masterpiece of a "YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT THE MEETING IS ABOUT HOW DARE YOU SAY YOU DO" thread. Incidentally, it's fun that the legend TX chose kstateonline to post this, and it has a bagillion replies....almost as if the Rivals K-State site didn't miss a beat when those other guys left and formed that other site whatever it's called.
Post by: Pete on December 30, 2017, 08:09:51 AM
Post by: Pete on December 30, 2017, 08:10:35 AM
Post by: chum1 on December 30, 2017, 08:16:28 AM
some have reportedly had to cancel their personal travel plans.
Geez. What a dick move.
Post by: Pete on December 30, 2017, 09:39:13 AM
some have reportedly had to cancel their personal travel plans.
Geez. What a dick move.
Yeah, that seems to be a very provocative and polarizing topic in the ol' Foundation.
Post by: steve dave on December 30, 2017, 10:14:39 AM
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Post by: wetwillie on December 30, 2017, 10:19:08 AM
Post by: slackcat on December 30, 2017, 11:21:28 AM
Post by: gatoveintisiete on December 30, 2017, 11:22:44 AM
Post by: slackcat on December 30, 2017, 11:29:09 AM
Post by: Dugout DickStone on December 30, 2017, 12:26:44 PM
Post by: bones129 on December 30, 2017, 12:53:07 PM
Post by: The Big Train on December 30, 2017, 12:54:32 PM
Post by: bones129 on December 30, 2017, 12:55:25 PM
Well he's sitting on it until the time is right
:impatient:
Post by: ELL3 on December 30, 2017, 05:39:57 PM
Post by: pvegs on December 30, 2017, 05:53:10 PM
Top candidates are Craig Bohl and the current guy at NDSU. Carl Ice Family Stadium!!!
Real talk: I would take Klieman, or however you spell it. We could do much worse, and have. (Loser K-State mentality bashing blah blah, but Klieman would be fine).
Post by: manpow5 on December 30, 2017, 06:12:33 PM
Top candidates are Craig Bohl and the current guy at NDSU. Carl Ice Family Stadium!!!
Real talk: I would take Klieman, or however you spell it. We could do much worse, and have. (Loser K-State mentality bashing blah blah, but Klieman would be fine).
For OC? Would take either.
Post by: Dugout DickStone on December 30, 2017, 06:25:54 PM
Oh no Hayes will have to come back from Boca a few days early
Post by: bones129 on December 30, 2017, 06:29:34 PM
Oh no Hayes will have to come back from Boca a few days early
If I were Bill, I'd tell Hayes he doesn't need to attend the meeting.
Post by: Pete on December 31, 2017, 08:00:32 AM
Post by: kearneymen on December 31, 2017, 08:47:25 AM
TX and another ITK poster are saying that Hayes is leaning toward retiring, and that he had to cancel a vacation to see his grandchildren.
[Assuming that Venables, Beilma and/or Leavitt won't come back to be HCIW and/or DC]
I wonder if Joe Bob would consider a co-DC with Seiler? It could be that Fabris, Hayes and Mo are all headed out (disclaimer, I don't know just following rumors) so that could leave some openings for new blood on the defense. I wonder if Joe Bob, Jeff Kelly, Joe Gordon or Tre Walker will get a shot?
Post by: BackPayne on December 31, 2017, 09:39:16 AM
Post by: waks on December 31, 2017, 10:57:20 AM
Post by: wetwillie on December 31, 2017, 11:14:16 AM
Post by: kso_FAN on December 31, 2017, 11:27:52 AM
Hasn't Hayes wanted to retire for years?
Grin what I understand, yes. Bill keeps asking him to come back and he does.
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on December 31, 2017, 11:36:15 AM
Post by: I_have_purplewood on December 31, 2017, 12:04:17 PM
Snyder has been the drunk guy at the bar begging somebody to have one more drink with him even though he initially said he could only go out for one or two.
And unfortunately the guys he continues to ask their livers are incredibly pickled.
Post by: Dugout DickStone on December 31, 2017, 12:12:40 PM
Snyder has been the drunk guy at the bar begging somebody to have one more drink with him even though he initially said he could only go out for one or two.
And unfortunately the guys he continues to ask their livers are incredibly pickled.
But they stay and pak, because they love to pak and bill is buying
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on December 31, 2017, 12:13:20 PM
Post by: wetwillie on December 31, 2017, 12:29:01 PM
Post by: LeggoKatZ on December 31, 2017, 01:21:25 PM
Hasn't Hayes wanted to retire for years?
I so wanted to yell obscenities at Hayes when he walked towards the locker room at halftime in Lowrentz for the KU game this year.
I chickened out though.
Post by: mocat on December 31, 2017, 01:44:23 PM
Overall Snyder 2.0 has been a delight and I'm not complaining at all. We won a Dr Pepper and damn near made it to a national championship. Those were great times. It is kinda funny though because initially he was like I'm just coming back to calm the waters and then now he's begging our DC for just one more round every year.
Agree
Post by: MakeItRain on December 31, 2017, 03:27:42 PM
Snyder has been the drunk guy at the bar begging somebody to have one more drink with him even though he initially said he could only go out for one or two.
Overall Snyder 2.0 has been a delight and I'm not complaining at all. We won a Dr Pepper and damn near made it to a national championship. Those were great times. It is kinda funny though because initially he was like I'm just coming back to calm the waters and then now he's begging our DC for just one more round every year.The best takes I've seen about all of this
Post by: BMWWcat on December 31, 2017, 04:15:08 PM
Post by: bones129 on December 31, 2017, 05:45:53 PM
Just texted TX...appears to just be a coaches meeting. Didn't think it has anything to do about Snyder retiring.
Maybe something about him staying?
Post by: Pete on December 31, 2017, 05:51:25 PM
Post by: BMWWcat on December 31, 2017, 06:17:20 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on December 31, 2017, 06:18:26 PM
Just texted TX...appears to just be a coaches meeting. Didn't think it has anything to do about Snyder retiring.
Did people actually think he was retiring without meeting with the team?
Post by: sonofdaxjones on December 31, 2017, 08:47:47 PM
Hasn't Hayes wanted to retire for years?
I so wanted to yell obscenities at Hayes when he walked towards the locker room at halftime in Lowrentz for the KU game this year.
I chickened out though.
Bill has Hayes blocked from frymaster.com
Post by: everyone shut up on December 31, 2017, 10:56:36 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on January 01, 2018, 12:28:03 AM
Post by: tdaver on January 01, 2018, 08:19:34 AM
Who are we replacing DJamer with?
http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=39500.msg1744319#msg1744319
Post by: Pete on January 01, 2018, 09:21:59 PM
Post by: bones129 on January 02, 2018, 12:49:54 AM
Post by: kslim on January 02, 2018, 08:09:51 AM
Post by: slackcat on January 02, 2018, 10:06:31 AM
if bill had coaches return from vacation early for some little reason i would tell him to get mumped.
Bill would never hire anyone with a mind of their own. Look at Myers and Taylor.
Post by: MakeItRain on January 02, 2018, 02:03:53 PM
if bill had coaches return from vacation early for some little reason i would tell him to get mumped.
Some of you people are ridiculous.
Post by: kslim on January 02, 2018, 02:46:27 PM
what do you mean "you people"? and im not saying that is what happened but if it did its horseshitif bill had coaches return from vacation early for some little reason i would tell him to get mumped.
Some of you people are ridiculous.
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on January 02, 2018, 03:47:47 PM
Post by: 'taterblast on January 02, 2018, 03:50:09 PM
Post by: kslim on January 02, 2018, 04:02:05 PM
Post by: i poo crabs on January 02, 2018, 04:43:00 PM
ES3
@ESullivan_20
Smh ???????????.... I’m speechless
Post by: BackPayne on January 02, 2018, 04:46:15 PM
Post by: Gooch on January 02, 2018, 04:47:28 PM
How does Bill coming back help us? No OC would be a great opportunity to bring in a new coach. Is he really just holding us hostage until Sean is approved to get the HC job?yes
Post by: manpow5 on January 02, 2018, 04:52:22 PM
How does Bill coming back help us? No OC would be a great opportunity to bring in a new coach. Is he really just holding us hostage until Sean is approved to get the HC job?yes
(https://i.imgur.com/IvyCn.gif)
Post by: SkinnyBenny on January 02, 2018, 04:56:26 PM
Post by: everyone shut up on January 02, 2018, 04:56:51 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on January 02, 2018, 05:06:59 PM
what do you mean "you people"? and im not saying that is what happened but if it did its horseshitif bill had coaches return from vacation early for some little reason i would tell him to get mumped.
Some of you people are ridiculous.
You honestly think they are getting any more time off than Wed Dec. 27-Tuesday Jan 2? That's a week's vacation. I'm sure they'll get more time off after NSD and spring football.
There's just so much manufactured drama around this, it's ridiculous. People are losing their crap about every message board rumor and any tweet from any athlete has to be that athlete being mad at a coach. It's all a bit much.
Post by: Gooch on January 02, 2018, 05:08:57 PM
It's almost as if the guy that is supposed to be in control of the program is not. #Weirdwhat do you mean "you people"? and im not saying that is what happened but if it did its horseshitif bill had coaches return from vacation early for some little reason i would tell him to get mumped.
Some of you people are ridiculous.
You honestly think they are getting any more time off than Wed Dec. 27-Tuesday Jan 2? That's a week's vacation. I'm sure they'll get more time off after NSD and spring football.
There's just so much manufactured drama around this, it's ridiculous. People are losing their crap about every message board rumor and any tweet from any athlete has to be that athlete being mad at a coach. It's all a bit much.
Post by: star seed 7 on January 02, 2018, 05:11:53 PM
what do you mean "you people"? and im not saying that is what happened but if it did its horseshitif bill had coaches return from vacation early for some little reason i would tell him to get mumped.
Some of you people are ridiculous.
You honestly think they are getting any more time off than Wed Dec. 27-Tuesday Jan 2? That's a week's vacation. I'm sure they'll get more time off after NSD and spring football.
There's just so much manufactured drama around this, it's ridiculous. People are losing their crap about every message board rumor and any tweet from any athlete has to be that athlete being mad at a coach. It's all a bit much.
I agree :)
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on January 02, 2018, 05:42:28 PM
https://twitter.com/Zuber_7More/status/948308265661861888
I think this was in response to Pringle's letter.
Post by: MakeItRain on January 02, 2018, 05:51:34 PM
It's almost as if the guy that is supposed to be in control of the program is not. #Weirdwhat do you mean "you people"? and im not saying that is what happened but if it did its horseshitif bill had coaches return from vacation early for some little reason i would tell him to get mumped.
Some of you people are ridiculous.
You honestly think they are getting any more time off than Wed Dec. 27-Tuesday Jan 2? That's a week's vacation. I'm sure they'll get more time off after NSD and spring football.
There's just so much manufactured drama around this, it's ridiculous. People are losing their crap about every message board rumor and any tweet from any athlete has to be that athlete being mad at a coach. It's all a bit much.
That's exactly what I'm talking about, there has been absolutely nothing that has happened to legitimize what you just posted. Here's what has been confirmed this off-season.
1. The offensive coordinator got a head coaching job, which some posters unbelievably have spun as a negative.
2. Two players declared early for the draft.
3. One other is likely to leave as a grad transfer.
What of that connotes a program out of control? Everything else is just noise is Snyder so omnipotent that he has to be accountable for random bullshit not from inside his program?
Post by: MakeItRain on January 02, 2018, 05:55:40 PM
:nono:https://twitter.com/Zuber_7More/status/948308265661861888
I think this was in response to Pringle's letter.
It was clearly in response to the news his head coach is coming back. He definitely hates Snyder so he was pinning his hopes to a nameless, faceless message board poster to have info that the actual team didn't have.
Post by: wetwillie on January 02, 2018, 06:14:42 PM
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on January 02, 2018, 06:19:11 PM
:nono:https://twitter.com/Zuber_7More/status/948308265661861888
I think this was in response to Pringle's letter.
It was clearly in response to the news his head coach is coming back. He definitely hates Snyder so he was pinning his hopes to a nameless, faceless message board poster to have info that the actual team didn't have.
You're probably right, that's the first thing I would put out on social media when my coach says he's coming back for another year.
Post by: Steffy08 on January 02, 2018, 06:27:35 PM
It's almost as if the guy that is supposed to be in control of the program is not. #Weirdwhat do you mean "you people"? and im not saying that is what happened but if it did its horseshitif bill had coaches return from vacation early for some little reason i would tell him to get mumped.
Some of you people are ridiculous.
You honestly think they are getting any more time off than Wed Dec. 27-Tuesday Jan 2? That's a week's vacation. I'm sure they'll get more time off after NSD and spring football.
There's just so much manufactured drama around this, it's ridiculous. People are losing their crap about every message board rumor and any tweet from any athlete has to be that athlete being mad at a coach. It's all a bit much.
That's exactly what I'm talking about, there has been absolutely nothing that has happened to legitimize what you just posted. Here's what has been confirmed this off-season.
1. The offensive coordinator got a head coaching job, which some posters unbelievably have spun as a negative.
2. Two players declared early for the draft.
3. One other is likely to leave as a grad transfer.
What of that connotes a program out of control? Everything else is just noise is Snyder so omnipotent that he has to be accountable for random bullshit not from inside his program?
Every once in a while, MIR is right.
Today is one of those days.
Preach on MIR!
Post by: manpow5 on January 02, 2018, 07:16:52 PM
The entire fuel of a message board is wild ass rumors and unfounded speculation and I for one will continue to actively engage in that behavior
This is the reason I pay for premium.
Also, C+ source (kinda sorta), #Gotlieb4KSU is still a possibility.
:Take the Bait:
Post by: MakeItRain on January 02, 2018, 08:08:21 PM
The entire fuel of a message board is wild ass rumors and unfounded speculation and I for one will continue to actively engage in that behavior
Maybe I'm not being clear. I'm good with wild ass speculation, I do my share of it. What's ridiculous is the abundance of making definitive judgments based on said wild ass speculation.
"Man, eff LHC Bill Snyder for making his coaches leave vacation early."
"I can't believe John Currie told LHC Bill Snyder he couldn't hire Jim Leavitt." That one went on for two or three years, and turned out to be incredibly wrong.
Post by: wetwillie on January 02, 2018, 08:12:59 PM
Post by: porky morgan on January 02, 2018, 09:11:07 PM
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Post by: chum1 on January 03, 2018, 07:19:05 AM
Post by: chum1 on January 03, 2018, 07:20:12 AM
Post by: wetwillie on January 03, 2018, 07:45:33 AM
Post by: kearneymen on January 03, 2018, 08:14:11 AM
To inform the staff he has hired chuck "tac it on" long and denied Hayes request to retire.
I got lost in the rumor storm, do we actually know if Chuck Long has been hired? Likewise, do we actually know of any staff changes / people coming back (other than Dimel leaving)? It feels like a massive rumor storm with only two nuggets of confirmed truth: Snyder is back and Dimel is headed to UTEP.
Post by: SkinnyBenny on January 03, 2018, 08:16:08 AM
To inform the staff he has hired chuck "tac it on" long and denied Hayes request to retire.
Chuck "3rd and" Long is a far better nickname
Post by: wetwillie on January 03, 2018, 08:19:32 AM
To inform the staff he has hired chuck "tac it on" long and denied Hayes request to retire.
I got lost in the rumor storm, do we actually know if Chuck Long has been hired? Likewise, do we actually know of any staff changes / people coming back (other than Dimel leaving)? It feels like a massive rumor storm with only two nuggets of confirmed truth: Snyder is back and Dimel is headed to UTEP.
Look we know some things but the reality is we have been told to sit on it until the timing is better. I'd like to give you more right now but my hands are tied.
Post by: kstofer on January 03, 2018, 08:51:20 AM
Post by: kslim on January 03, 2018, 09:07:56 AM
i think you misconstrued what i said, i bolded and italicized the portion of my post that way it will make more sense to you. I know people will get phone calls, questions, and whatnot while on vacation, that is nothing new and happens all the time but to have a coach miss seeing his grandkids (as posted below) then yes i stand by my statement and think its horseshit. I mean have some decency and make a phone call "hey tom its bill, i know you are on vacation but i just wanted to let you know that im coming back to coach another year" I dont think that is asking too much from a maniacal man that preaches family constantlywhat do you mean "you people"? and im not saying that is what happened but if it did its horseshitif bill had coaches return from vacation early for some little reason I would tell him to get mumped.
Some of you people are ridiculous.
You honestly think they are getting any more time off than Wed Dec. 27-Tuesday Jan 2? That's a week's vacation. I'm sure they'll get more time off after NSD and spring football.
There's just so much manufactured drama around this, it's ridiculous. People are losing their crap about every message board rumor and any tweet from any athlete has to be that athlete being mad at a coach. It's all a bit much.
TX and another ITK poster are saying that Hayes is leaning toward retiring, and that he had to cancel a vacation to see his grandchildren.
Post by: MakeItRain on January 03, 2018, 09:49:28 AM
i think you misconstrued what i said, i bolded and italicized the portion of my post that way it will make more sense to you. I know people will get phone calls, questions, and whatnot while on vacation, that is nothing new and happens all the time but to have a coach miss seeing his grandkids (as posted below) then yes i stand by my statement and think its horseshit. I mean have some decency and make a phone call "hey tom its bill, i know you are on vacation but i just wanted to let you know that im coming back to coach another year" I dont think that is asking too much from a maniacal man that preaches family constantlywhat do you mean "you people"? and im not saying that is what happened but if it did its horseshitif bill had coaches return from vacation early for some little reason I would tell him to get mumped.
Some of you people are ridiculous.
You honestly think they are getting any more time off than Wed Dec. 27-Tuesday Jan 2? That's a week's vacation. I'm sure they'll get more time off after NSD and spring football.
There's just so much manufactured drama around this, it's ridiculous. People are losing their crap about every message board rumor and any tweet from any athlete has to be that athlete being mad at a coach. It's all a bit much.TX and another ITK poster are saying that Hayes is leaning toward retiring, and that he had to cancel a vacation to see his grandchildren.
I responded to your post but that was far from the only post I was talking about. Snyder forcing coaches to cancel a vacation, after a week off btw (Did Hayes grandchildren not have to return to school this week like every other kid in America?), shouldn't have dignified a response. But everyone is in such a hurry to have the fun of a one week coaching search, we're all so quick to latch onto every single negative morsel to justify the bloodthirst. To me the way this is being handled by the fans is completely distasteful and not only disregards the last 28 years of this program but takes for granted where the program is now, as if we'll magically become an 11 win program with a coaching change.
Post by: manpow5 on January 03, 2018, 09:54:12 AM
To inform the staff he has hired chuck "tac it on" long and denied Hayes request to retire.
I got lost in the rumor storm, do we actually know if Chuck Long has been hired? Likewise, do we actually know of any staff changes / people coming back (other than Dimel leaving)? It feels like a massive rumor storm with only two nuggets of confirmed truth: Snyder is back and Dimel is headed to UTEP.
Look we know some things but the reality is we have been told to sit on it until the timing is better. I'd like to give you more right now but my hands are tied.
Who woulda guessed WetWillie was Fitz... did not see that one coming...
Post by: wetwillie on January 03, 2018, 09:58:56 AM
To inform the staff he has hired chuck "tac it on" long and denied Hayes request to retire.
I got lost in the rumor storm, do we actually know if Chuck Long has been hired? Likewise, do we actually know of any staff changes / people coming back (other than Dimel leaving)? It feels like a massive rumor storm with only two nuggets of confirmed truth: Snyder is back and Dimel is headed to UTEP.
Look we know some things but the reality is we have been told to sit on it until the timing is better. I'd like to give you more right now but my hands are tied.
Who woulda guessed WetWillie was Fitz... did not see that one coming...
[you] has been on to me for months, I assumed everyone was.
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on January 03, 2018, 10:00:51 AM
i think you misconstrued what i said, i bolded and italicized the portion of my post that way it will make more sense to you. I know people will get phone calls, questions, and whatnot while on vacation, that is nothing new and happens all the time but to have a coach miss seeing his grandkids (as posted below) then yes i stand by my statement and think its horseshit. I mean have some decency and make a phone call "hey tom its bill, i know you are on vacation but i just wanted to let you know that im coming back to coach another year" I dont think that is asking too much from a maniacal man that preaches family constantlywhat do you mean "you people"? and im not saying that is what happened but if it did its horseshitif bill had coaches return from vacation early for some little reason I would tell him to get mumped.
Some of you people are ridiculous.
You honestly think they are getting any more time off than Wed Dec. 27-Tuesday Jan 2? That's a week's vacation. I'm sure they'll get more time off after NSD and spring football.
There's just so much manufactured drama around this, it's ridiculous. People are losing their crap about every message board rumor and any tweet from any athlete has to be that athlete being mad at a coach. It's all a bit much.TX and another ITK poster are saying that Hayes is leaning toward retiring, and that he had to cancel a vacation to see his grandchildren.
I responded to your post but that was far from the only post I was talking about. Snyder forcing coaches to cancel a vacation, after a week off btw (Did Hayes grandchildren not have to return to school this week like every other kid in America?), shouldn't have dignified a response. But everyone is in such a hurry to have the fun of a one week coaching search, we're all so quick to latch onto every single negative morsel to justify the bloodthirst. To me the way this is being handled by the fans is completely distasteful and not only disregards the last 28 years of this program but takes for granted where the program is now, as if we'll magically become an 11 win program with a coaching change.
I agree with half of this and disagree with half of this. first, my kids are still off from school as is every other kid I know. second, if Snyder originally told hayes or whoever that they could have until the 5th or the 7th or whatever and then went back on that one third of the way through their leave and made them come back just to listen to him say that he's staying, then yeah that is absolutely crappy by Snyder and there are some people saying this is exactly what happened.
whether it did or not, I'm not sure. but if those coaches thought they had until a certain time and then had to cancel their plans, that's poor and super weird management by the guy that is supposed to be in charge. they are adults at the top of their field. you can communicate other ways than by making someone cut a vacation short to come to some room and hear it straight from your face. it's beyond wrong and weird if that's what actually happened.
Post by: kslim on January 03, 2018, 10:08:16 AM
i dont have the details on any of this, my point was and is that if bill made hayes leave or cancel a vacation simply to tell them the staff he is returning (which i assume most coaches knew already) is flat wrong. its a dead period right now, would a text or phone call not make sense there? im firmly on team bill should step aside but im not in the run him off club. he can go out however he wants but the playing games with everyone to fit his own agenda doesnt seem righti think you misconstrued what i said, i bolded and italicized the portion of my post that way it will make more sense to you. I know people will get phone calls, questions, and whatnot while on vacation, that is nothing new and happens all the time but to have a coach miss seeing his grandkids (as posted below) then yes i stand by my statement and think its horseshit. I mean have some decency and make a phone call "hey tom its bill, i know you are on vacation but i just wanted to let you know that im coming back to coach another year" I dont think that is asking too much from a maniacal man that preaches family constantlywhat do you mean "you people"? and im not saying that is what happened but if it did its horseshitif bill had coaches return from vacation early for some little reason I would tell him to get mumped.
Some of you people are ridiculous.
You honestly think they are getting any more time off than Wed Dec. 27-Tuesday Jan 2? That's a week's vacation. I'm sure they'll get more time off after NSD and spring football.
There's just so much manufactured drama around this, it's ridiculous. People are losing their crap about every message board rumor and any tweet from any athlete has to be that athlete being mad at a coach. It's all a bit much.TX and another ITK poster are saying that Hayes is leaning toward retiring, and that he had to cancel a vacation to see his grandchildren.
I responded to your post but that was far from the only post I was talking about. Snyder forcing coaches to cancel a vacation, after a week off btw (Did Hayes grandchildren not have to return to school this week like every other kid in America?), shouldn't have dignified a response. But everyone is in such a hurry to have the fun of a one week coaching search, we're all so quick to latch onto every single negative morsel to justify the bloodthirst. To me the way this is being handled by the fans is completely distasteful and not only disregards the last 28 years of this program but takes for granted where the program is now, as if we'll magically become an 11 win program with a coaching change.
Post by: Daddy Claxton on January 03, 2018, 10:29:07 AM
Post by: Cartierfor3 on January 03, 2018, 10:34:14 AM
To inform the staff he has hired chuck "tac it on" long and denied Hayes request to retire.
I got lost in the rumor storm, do we actually know if Chuck Long has been hired? Likewise, do we actually know of any staff changes / people coming back (other than Dimel leaving)? It feels like a massive rumor storm with only two nuggets of confirmed truth: Snyder is back and Dimel is headed to UTEP.
Look we know some things but the reality is we have been told to sit on it until the timing is better. I'd like to give you more right now but my hands are tied.
Who woulda guessed WetWillie was Fitz... did not see that one coming...
[you] has been on to me for months, I assumed everyone was.
yeah this is old news frankly
Post by: cat.branchman on January 03, 2018, 10:38:52 AM
To inform the staff he has hired chuck "tac it on" long and denied Hayes request to retire.
I got lost in the rumor storm, do we actually know if Chuck Long has been hired? Likewise, do we actually know of any staff changes / people coming back (other than Dimel leaving)? It feels like a massive rumor storm with only two nuggets of confirmed truth: Snyder is back and Dimel is headed to UTEP.
Look we know some things but the reality is we have been told to sit on it until the timing is better. I'd like to give you more right now but my hands are tied.
Who woulda guessed WetWillie was Fitz... did not see that one coming...
[you] has been on to me for months, I assumed everyone was.
Yep.
Post by: MakeItRain on January 03, 2018, 11:35:29 AM
i think you misconstrued what i said, i bolded and italicized the portion of my post that way it will make more sense to you. I know people will get phone calls, questions, and whatnot while on vacation, that is nothing new and happens all the time but to have a coach miss seeing his grandkids (as posted below) then yes i stand by my statement and think its horseshit. I mean have some decency and make a phone call "hey tom its bill, i know you are on vacation but i just wanted to let you know that im coming back to coach another year" I dont think that is asking too much from a maniacal man that preaches family constantlywhat do you mean "you people"? and im not saying that is what happened but if it did its horseshitif bill had coaches return from vacation early for some little reason I would tell him to get mumped.
Some of you people are ridiculous.
You honestly think they are getting any more time off than Wed Dec. 27-Tuesday Jan 2? That's a week's vacation. I'm sure they'll get more time off after NSD and spring football.
There's just so much manufactured drama around this, it's ridiculous. People are losing their crap about every message board rumor and any tweet from any athlete has to be that athlete being mad at a coach. It's all a bit much.TX and another ITK poster are saying that Hayes is leaning toward retiring, and that he had to cancel a vacation to see his grandchildren.
I responded to your post but that was far from the only post I was talking about. Snyder forcing coaches to cancel a vacation, after a week off btw (Did Hayes grandchildren not have to return to school this week like every other kid in America?), shouldn't have dignified a response. But everyone is in such a hurry to have the fun of a one week coaching search, we're all so quick to latch onto every single negative morsel to justify the bloodthirst. To me the way this is being handled by the fans is completely distasteful and not only disregards the last 28 years of this program but takes for granted where the program is now, as if we'll magically become an 11 win program with a coaching change.
I agree with half of this and disagree with half of this. first, my kids are still off from school as is every other kid I know. second, if Snyder originally told hayes or whoever that they could have until the 5th or the 7th or whatever and then went back on that one third of the way through their leave and made them come back just to listen to him say that he's staying, then yeah that is absolutely crappy by Snyder and there are some people saying this is exactly what happened.
whether it did or not, I'm not sure. but if those coaches thought they had until a certain time and then had to cancel their plans, that's poor and super weird management by the guy that is supposed to be in charge. they are adults at the top of their field. you can communicate other ways than by making someone cut a vacation short to come to some room and hear it straight from your face. it's beyond wrong and weird if that's what actually happened.
I agree with all of this.
I don't know why I'm giving LHC Bill Snyder the benefit of the doubt on this but I am. He's certainly made his fair share of mistakes from being single minded and myopic but I guess I'm hoping he, nor anyone else, is that much of a monster.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on January 03, 2018, 05:10:50 PM
We've barely honored the guy, and he may not be around to coach that much longer. We need to do something.
Post by: EMAWzifried on January 03, 2018, 05:17:15 PM
To inform the staff he has hired chuck "tac it on" long and denied Hayes request to retire.
I got lost in the rumor storm, do we actually know if Chuck Long has been hired? Likewise, do we actually know of any staff changes / people coming back (other than Dimel leaving)? It feels like a massive rumor storm with only two nuggets of confirmed truth: Snyder is back and Dimel is headed to UTEP.
Look we know some things but the reality is we have been told to sit on it until the timing is better. I'd like to give you more right now but my hands are tied.
Who woulda guessed WetWillie was Fitz... did not see that one coming...
[you] has been on to me for months, I assumed everyone was.
Dude, I didn't know you existed until minutes ago.
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You brackets. The gift the keeps on giving.
Yes, this is a great trick ????
Post by: purplehaze on January 03, 2018, 08:21:22 PM
I was definitely bamboozledYou brackets. The gift the keeps on giving.
Yes, this is a great trick
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Post by: KITNfury on January 04, 2018, 04:41:08 PM
Am I a running joke? :(By the looks of you, running isn't something you've done for quite some time.
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Post by: kstatefreak42 on January 04, 2018, 07:20:48 PM
lol... 5'11 165lbs. I lied im 168.... Gained a few since ive moved to El Paso! This mexican food is to much...Am I a running joke? :(By the looks of you, running isn't something you've done for quite some time.
Post by: meow meow on January 05, 2018, 08:16:22 AM
[vine][/vine]lol... 5'11 165lbs. I lied im 168.... Gained a few since ive moved to El Paso! This mexican food is to much...Am I a running joke? :(By the looks of you, running isn't something you've done for quite some time.
it's Jake Waters :surprised:
Post by: 1863 on January 05, 2018, 09:53:12 AM
To inform the staff he has hired chuck "tac it on" long and denied Hayes request to retire.
I got lost in the rumor storm, do we actually know if Chuck Long has been hired? Likewise, do we actually know of any staff changes / people coming back (other than Dimel leaving)? It feels like a massive rumor storm with only two nuggets of confirmed truth: Snyder is back and Dimel is headed to UTEP.
Look we know some things but the reality is we have been told to sit on it until the timing is better. I'd like to give you more right now but my hands are tied.
Who woulda guessed WetWillie was Fitz... did not see that one coming...
[you] has been on to me for months, I assumed everyone was.
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