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He Gone
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Definitely seemed likely when Dana took the job at UTEP, but any doubt was erased when we signed a juco fullback this morning. Good luck to him.
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i figured Winston would prefer to stay at a power 5 school to keep his draft stock high. but, i can understand wanting to play for your dad as a head coach.
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i figured Winston would prefer to stay at a power 5 school to keep his draft stock high. but, i can understand wanting to play for your dad as a head coach.
He’ll be the feature back at UTEP
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Will he be a grad transfer?
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He's really serious about #family
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Will he be a grad transfer?
Kellis (I think) said after Dana took the job that he'd be eligible to play immediately as a grad transfer.
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is Dimel (and Dimel) still planning on sticking around for the bowl game?
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Uhhh... I feel like this is luked.... am I dejavu-ing here cause pretty sure this already happened...
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is Dimel (and Dimel) still planning on sticking around for the bowl game?
This is really all I care about. I figured Dimel would be gone after this season.
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Neither one of them should be allowed to go to the bowl game. I'm not interested in anymore of their bullshit nepotism family fullback crap. I'll pack their bags to get out of here today. Good riddance.
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Winston got a bad rap because of his dad. We're losing a really good fullback and a lot of dumbasses hate him because they don't know any better.
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Winston is a Kroger Gronk who got the benefit of his racist tuck dad slinging crap against the wall in the booth because he knew Bill would never do anything to him. eff both of them.
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Who do we blame next year when our offense is still frustrating to watch?
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:cheers:
Who do we blame next year when our offense is still frustrating to watch?
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LHC Sean Snyder
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Winston is a Kroger Gronk who got the benefit of his racist tuck dad slinging crap against the wall in the booth because he knew Bill would never do anything to him. eff both of them.
Winston is a 2nd team All Big 12 fullback. I think Gronk made HM once. If anything Gronk was a Kroger Winston.
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Baby gronk was a Kroger gronk
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Winston is a Kroger Gronk who got the benefit of his racist tuck dad slinging crap against the wall in the booth because he knew Bill would never do anything to him. eff both of them.
Winston is a 2nd team All Big 12 fullback. I think Gronk made HM once. If anything Gronk was a Kroger Winston.
There are only 2 fullbacks in the Big 12. So he's the worst.
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Winston is a Kroger Gronk who got the benefit of his racist tuck dad slinging crap against the wall in the booth because he knew Bill would never do anything to him. eff both of them.
Winston is a 2nd team All Big 12 fullback. I think Gronk made HM once. If anything Gronk was a Kroger Winston.
There are only 2 fullbacks in the Big 12. So he's the worst.
I mean. There were 4 FB's on the HM list this year so :dunno:
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https://twitter.com/_POOH_BEAR5/status/943591081664532482
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Definitely seemed likely when Dana took the job at UTEP, but any doubt was erased when we signed a juco fullback this morning. Good luck to him.
It seemed even more likely when the head coach said it's probably his last game.
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https://twitter.com/_POOH_BEAR5/status/943591081664532482
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I think Winston means that he’s rough ridin' gone, but might not go to UTEP if he gets a sweet offer from some hot sexy school.
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Winston Dimel is a very good fullback and we will miss him.
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yeah Winston is actually pretty decent. it's not like the time that we gave a full scholarship to sean's kid knowing full well that he would never see the field.
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what was up with bill saying he felt good about who the 10th assistant would be but that he wasn't sure if he'd be back next year? i just saw that between flights. good ol bill.
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I'm aware that the Dimels are leaving because Sean and maybe Bill hate their guts, or at least the guts of the older one. But this on face value is extra weird.
https://twitter.com/KenCorbitt/status/943545561625620481
What sort of college senior, and perhaps especially a perceived successful football player, would abandon the prime of that college experience for El Paso because their dad's there?
Now, if that's Bill saying that Winston's completely aware that his existence in football and/or at KSU is 100% tied to Dana being on the coaching staff, it make sense.
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I don't even understand wanting to play for your dad in college, I would be looking for nearly anywhere else
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Yeah, like when you start typing into google "going away to" it fills in "college" and then a bunch of sub-topics of that.
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Uhhh... I feel like this is luked.... am I dejavu-ing here cause pretty sure this already happened...
http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=39991.0#quickreply
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I'm aware that the Dimels are leaving because Sean and maybe Bill hate their guts, or at least the guts of the older one. But this on face value is extra weird.
https://twitter.com/KenCorbitt/status/943545561625620481
What sort of college senior, and perhaps especially a perceived successful football player, would abandon the prime of that college experience for El Paso because their dad's there?
Now, if that's Bill saying that Winston's completely aware that his existence in football and/or at KSU is 100% tied to Dana being on the coaching staff, it make sense.
If he goes to UTEP I'm assuming is because there's an expectation that he'll have a role in the offense that would help him enhance his draft profile. Either that or he loves and is very close with his dad so he wants to spend his last year of college eligibility helping his father.
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maybe he thinks that his dad will coach there for the next thirty years and that if he transfers and plays there he could some day end up on staff and in the utep hof and then maybe even succeed him as head coach if everything breaks just right.
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:lol:
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In all seriousness, is there another program in the country where the potential transfer status of a fullback could cause this many waves?
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maybe he thinks that his dad will coach there for the next thirty years and that if he transfers and plays there he could some day end up on staff and in the utep hof and then maybe even succeed him as head coach if everything breaks just right.
Symmetry :love:
In twenty years they'll be talking about the greatest turnaround ever, UTEP being the worst job in America and the Dimel clan leading then to the Western 16 championship game. :excited:
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WINSTON GONE
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Biggest Luke of all time?
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it's public now
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I will cheer (at boxscores because not on tv) for both Dimel's to do great
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Dayton Valentine also gone, possibly?
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He is going to get just a stupid number of touches next season.
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Mizzou, aTm, or Wisconsin. Interesting.
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Tough loss
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Man, he should go to Wisconsin.
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Man, he should go to Wisconsin.
Sounds like Mizzou and aTm have already offered.
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What will every announcer to do a KState game talk about if they don't have a couple of segments of how Dimel and the FB position is undervalued in college football? Does UTEP even have a television deal?
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Congrats to the KSU anti-agendites. You’ve earned this one.
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We seem to back-fill the FB spot pretty well. Really not too worried.
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No one in college football has worried about “replacing a FB” since Tom Osborne died and an alien inhabited his body and retired.
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I'm more curious about what this says as a program. I'd have understood him following Daddy, but is this dissatisfaction with Bill, playing time, a sign Daddy got told to gtfo?
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He knows Colin won't use a fullback in his scheme
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I'm more curious about what this says as a program. I'd have understood him following Daddy, but is this dissatisfaction with Bill, playing time, a sign Daddy got told to gtfo?
I think the simple explanation is he came to K-State instead of another P5 because his dad was there. He has offers from programs that are above ours right now so he'd prefer to get the added exposure. If he went to Mizzou I'd be pretty insulted, but Wisconsin or a Jimbo-coached aTm I don't think it says anything about our program we don't already know.
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The Dimels ran off Glen Gronkowski... and for that reason I will always hate them.
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The Dimels ran off Glen Gronkowski... and for that reason I will always hate them.
That is a really strong argument.
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The Dimels ran off Glen Gronkowski... and for that reason I will always hate them.
Dimel is the only reason Baby Gronk was at k-state in the first place, so it's a wash
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Don't really care about FB. I just hope we get some great receivers.
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The Dimels ran off Glen Gronkowski... and for that reason I will always hate them.
Dimel is the only reason Baby Gronk was at k-state in the first place, so it's a wash
Super low giq from manpow5
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The Dimels ran off Glen Gronkowski... and for that reason I will always hate them.
Dimel is the only reason Baby Gronk was at k-state in the first place, so it's a wash
Super low giq from manpow5
I stand by my statement.
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my old friend winston is gone
you get me closer to sean
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Never understood people hating on Winston. He wasn't a great player, nor was he horrible, and most of the hate I feel is misdirected hatred towards his dad calling plays, or letting his son get more action that he may or may not have deserved. I've always been meh on Winston, and more upset when after a nice drive where like Silmon or Barnes did the yeoman's work to get to like the 5 yard line, they weren't able to cash in. But that wasn't necessarily Winston's fault.
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The son shall pay for the sins of the father
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Nobody hates on Winston weirdo
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definitely don't hate Winston. i think he stole time from Baby Gronk early in his career, more so than any other human being on earth would have with the same talent level but different last name. but can't really blame him...
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Nobody hates on Winston weirdo
That's not what manpow and most people in the NEZ seem to think
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NEZ people :lol:
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Nobody hates on Winston weirdo
Pffttt. Just spit out my coffee.
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Nobody hates on Winston weirdo
:dubious:
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i'll hate the crap out of winston if he plays for mizzou or A&M.
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Weirdo
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there are plenty of other schools he can go to where i'll be happy to ignore him/not root against him.
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Never understood people hating on Winston. He wasn't a great player, nor was he horrible, and most of the hate I feel is misdirected hatred towards his dad calling plays, or letting his son get more action that he may or may not have deserved. I've always been meh on Winston, and more upset when after a nice drive where like Silmon or Barnes did the yeoman's work to get to like the 5 yard line, they weren't able to cash in. But that wasn't necessarily Winston's fault.
You just perfectly explained why people hate on Winston.
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His name is MEATHOOK. Please show some respect.
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i'll hate the crap out of winston if he plays for mizzou or A&M.
Totally agree.
However, I, like most rational football fans, give barely, BARELY, two shits about a college football FB in this day and age.
I wish Winston the very best at his future endeavors and look forward to seeing him roaming the UTEP sidelines in a GA sweatsuit in 2 years.
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NEZ people, should be it's own thread, or show
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I kinda agree with mocat, Winston did catch a lot of crap, but it wasn't really about Winston but his daddy. No one ever calls Winston out for poor play, it's always something his dad did. I was frustrated with the Dimel combo because Dana was definitely Boobie Milesing our running backs by allowing #FamilyFullback to poach touchdowns even more blatantly than Jonathan Beasley did.
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yeah exactly. people were annoyed at dana for not letting gronk play.
i don't ever remembering Winston F'ing anything up. he just caught pop passes and bulldozed for td's like 247.
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I'm more curious about what this says as a program. I'd have understood him following Daddy, but is this dissatisfaction with Bill, playing time, a sign Daddy got told to gtfo?
I think you have to wonder when a three year starter bolts his senior year. He mentioned enhancing his NFL chances but that's b.s. We're a P5 program running a pro style offense that produces plenty of NFL talent. I get Wisconsin, but Mizzou makes no sense, Lock's gonna throw a billion passes next year. I have no idea about Jimbo but I know he hasn't used a FB as frequently as K-State and Wisconsin does.
I did find it interesting how he outlined all of his injuries in his statement. I feel like the answer could be there, or I'm guilty of confirmation bias with regard as to how this staff deals with player injuries.
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I don't blame a player for leaving when he has to hear constant bitching from the fan base about his father and the amount of touches he gives his son who nobody gives two fucks about. Daddy is gone and he owes us nothing. Time for him to make his own path. Good for him. I'm sure he's over having to hear this fan bases scapegoat crap because he's able to finish a drive and bulldoze ppl over for the score, just because daddy called the play.
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he doesn't have to hear constant bitching from our fanbase. matter of fact, people kiss these athlete's asses left and right.
the truth is that his dad did call his son's number in lieu of other players, no one can argue that and fans have every right to question the play calling. i'm sure none of that stuff happens at other schools, especially a school like A&M :lol:
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Mizzou fans never bitch about stuff either.
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eff, I’d go to Wisconsin, but I have a huge boner for Wisconsin, so factor my boner into any analysis.
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Hating a player because he took time away from an overrated G. Gronkowski might be the dumbest thing of all time, but ok. Add the dad stuff on top of it and he was never really welcomed here.
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GET THEM WACKY!
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Sean's forcing him out dudes
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Hating a player because he took time away from an overrated G. Gronkowski might be the dumbest thing of all time
agreed. that's why it never happened
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I'm sure Sean will let him stay but the return to a Braden Wilson-ish role is not too appealing
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Maybe Sean is going to go to a spread O and wants nothing to do with the fullback? :fatty:
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Hating a player because he took time away from an overrated G. Gronkowski might be the dumbest thing of all time
agreed. that's why it never happened
:lol:
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KSU fans are simply too mean. With poop-mouths to boot.
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The guy made bone crushing block after bone crushing block and all he got from the fans was a swift kick
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lol, eff you dumbasses @OK_Cat and @kslim. Calling me dumbasses for calling out the outcome of gronk.
http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=27547.675
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Anyways, there's examples all over this board of ppl being dumb about this.
Winston is a Kroger Gronk who got the benefit of his racist tuck dad slinging crap against the wall in the booth because he knew Bill would never do anything to him. eff both of them.
I hate anything Dimel related so much
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lol, eff you dumbasses @OK_Cat and @kslim. Calling me dumbasses for calling out the outcome of gronk.
http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=27547.675
haha, what do you think Mecca is?
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lol, eff you dumbasses @OK_Cat and @kslim. Calling me dumbasses for calling out the outcome of gronk.
http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=27547.675
haha, what do you think Mecca is?
I'm not commenting at that. That's not what I was lol'ing about.
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https://twitter.com/KellisRobinett/status/692450928855752708
eff you Dimel and Dimel Jr.
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Nepotism U. Also, is Sean's son still on scholarship?
When do you want me to stop, mocat?
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Kyle Klein. Collin Sexton. Stanton Weber. Tate Snyder. Baby Dimel.
Yep, Nepotism U. Woof.
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yeah exactly. people were annoyed at dana for not letting gronk play.
i don't ever remembering Winston F'ing anything up. he just caught pop passes and bulldozed for td's like 247.
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Nepotism U. Also, is Sean's son still on scholarship?
When do you want me to stop, mocat?
this is a "hates winston" post? :lol:
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But yeah, the majority of Winston hate came from the ridiculous nepotizz. I seem to remember a couple of fumbles at the goalline, but overall a vurry solid player. Still hate him because I loved Baby Gronk so much and the ridiculously fun times it brought us. Also MIR's Boobie Miles reference was A+. That's what I thought of seriously every single time we had guys getting the ball all the way down the field only to watch the OC call his son's number from the 1 yard-line.
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yeah exactly. people were annoyed at dana for not letting gronk play.
i don't ever remembering Winston F'ing anything up. he just caught pop passes and bulldozed for td's like 247.
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we lost that game by like 30 points
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uhh yeah, because of that fumble, bud
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:lol:
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Nepotism U. Also, is Sean's son still on scholarship?
When do you want me to stop, mocat?
this is a "hates winston" post? :lol:
It was in reference to giving past players/coaches family members scholarships. Right after skinbens post about the sextons, dimel, etc. He somehow blacked out on the locketts however and Dimel was good.
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Can a list be made of Dimel's plays that show the context and result? Like score, yard-line, down & distance, etc.?
My memory of this season is that during the usual scoring spots he'd get the ball and, at least against decent teams, fail to score once or twice more often than he scored, and then we'd do something else to try to score. But I def wouldn't rely on my memory, assuming I even watched the plays originally.
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There is a chance, can’t be certain, that a collection of posts on this board does not reflect the majority of posters.
And, stay with my logic on this, a collection of posters on this board similarly may not reflect the broader KSU fan base.
So, I think it might be possible that a few posts on this board may not impact the impression a player has of the overall feelings of the entire KSU fan base.
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Dimel was generally reliable at the goal line, and a fair substitute for the QB sneak in our apparently new effort to not destroy our QBs starting with Sky.
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Also, you don’t need to prove anything Wacky. Any regular reader of this board knows exactly what you’re talking about.
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It’s also important to remember that normal humans don’t give a eff about this.
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No I'm pretty certain that Dimel left because of mean posts by Rick Daris.
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Honestly, if RD said mean stuff about me, I would take it pretty hard. Maybe something to that, Chings.
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They don't call him Rowwdy Boy for nothing.
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It's a collection of the fanbase, especially if you read other outlets like Kansas states fans on FB, twitter, etc. But i'm sure you're right. He never got any of that feedback.
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How many random +20 yard passes were incomplete to him this year? Instead of trying to work with our shity receivers we are throwing deep to our fullback ? Only a dad would call crap up like this to pad his kids stats.
I'm not saying he wasn't one of our better players, because I think he did great in a lot of aspects but some of the crap we tried with him was just dumb.
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players (current and former) do seem to get fairly butthurt on twitter when their team is criticized by fans that may not have even played the sport, so wacky may be basing his entire point on that.
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How many random +20 yard passes were incomplete to him this year? Instead of trying to work with our shity receivers we are throwing deep to our fullback ? Only a dad would call crap up like this to pad his kids stats.
I'm not saying he wasn't one of our better players, because I think he did great in a lot of aspects but some of the crap we tried with him was just dumb.
Per espn, here is Dimel's receiving stats:
REC YDS AVG LNG TD
8 91 11.4 33 1
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If you are judging a FB by the 5% of downs where he carried the ball or was a receiving target and not the 95% of snaps where he was blocking then you don't really know what a full back does so who cares.
Winston was an excellent blocker and played his role in the offense very well.
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If you are judging a FB by the 5% of downs where he carried the ball or was a receiving target and not the 95% of snaps where he was blocking then you don't really know what a full back does so who cares.
Winston was an excellent blocker and played his role in the offense very well.
This is also exactly why I did not have a problem with giving it to Dimel at the goal line. He proved he can get short yardage and hold onto the ball. Why not reward the guy who has been crushing LBs all day so our RBs can get free? OU fans didn't complain when Blake Bell got the ball in goal line situations even after he did basically nothing to get them there.
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If you are judging a FB by the 5% of downs where he carried the ball or was a receiving target and not the 95% of snaps where he was blocking then you don't really know what a full back does so who cares.
Winston was an excellent blocker and played his role in the offense very well.
nah dude, people (ppl) hate him
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:facepalm:
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I liked winston, hated dana
I liked gronk, didnt really care that he left early
I like that this blog is a "mecca"
I disliked the way dana forced winston at times
~fin
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yeah exactly. people were annoyed at dana for not letting gronk play.
i don't ever remembering Winston F'ing anything up. he just caught pop passes and bulldozed for td's like 247.
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we lost that game by like 30 points
We won that game by a lot.
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yes, and it's all because winston completely aziz'd that tcu guy
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yes, and it's all because winston completely aziz'd that tcu guy
omg :lol:
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If you are judging a FB by the 5% of downs where he carried the ball or was a receiving target and not the 95% of snaps where he was blocking then you don't really know what a full back does so who cares.
Winston was an excellent blocker and played his role in the offense very well.
This is also exactly why I did not have a problem with giving it to Dimel at the goal line. He proved he can get short yardage and hold onto the ball. Why not reward the guy who has been crushing LBs all day so our RBs can get free? OU fans didn't complain when Blake Bell got the ball in goal line situations even after he did basically nothing to get them there.
This is exactly why I did have a problem with going to Dimel at the goal line. Each of the three years he was here there were multiple running backs better at running the ball, but no one better at blocking for running backs and quarterbacks. Using Dimel down there was usually the lower percentage play, even though it was mostly successful.
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“hey winston, wanna come to k-state and be one of the few feature fullbacks in p5? did I mention that you’ll get more goal line carries than your rb teammates? did I mention that we’ll even evolve our offense around you?”
“here’s the thing tho- some people may be critical about your dad and his play calls”
“winston, see if you can handle it. just give it a shot”
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I kinda agree with mocat, Winston did catch a lot of crap, but it wasn't really about Winston but his daddy. No one ever calls Winston out for poor play, it's always something his dad did. I was frustrated with the Dimel combo because Dana was definitely Boobie Milesing our running backs by allowing #FamilyFullback to poach touchdowns even more blatantly than Jonathan Beasley did.
But yeah, the majority of Winston hate came from the ridiculous nepotizz. I seem to remember a couple of fumbles at the goalline, but overall a vurry solid player. Still hate him because I loved Baby Gronk so much and the ridiculously fun times it brought us. Also MIR's Boobie Miles reference was A+. That's what I thought of seriously every single time we had guys getting the ball all the way down the field only to watch the OC call his son's number from the 1 yard-line.
Pretty sure both of you are getting your TX HS football movies mixed up. It was Varsity Blues where Wendell would run the ball down the field and then Lance would steal all the glory.
Also these scenes :love:
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbIEepu8Z4w[/youtube]
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeMyOmil6-E[/youtube]
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Did Dana run off Sams?
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I kinda agree with mocat, Winston did catch a lot of crap, but it wasn't really about Winston but his daddy. No one ever calls Winston out for poor play, it's always something his dad did. I was frustrated with the Dimel combo because Dana was definitely Boobie Milesing our running backs by allowing #FamilyFullback to poach touchdowns even more blatantly than Jonathan Beasley did.
But yeah, the majority of Winston hate came from the ridiculous nepotizz. I seem to remember a couple of fumbles at the goalline, but overall a vurry solid player. Still hate him because I loved Baby Gronk so much and the ridiculously fun times it brought us. Also MIR's Boobie Miles reference was A+. That's what I thought of seriously every single time we had guys getting the ball all the way down the field only to watch the OC call his son's number from the 1 yard-line.
Pretty sure both of you are getting your TX HS football movies mixed up. It was Varsity Blues where Wendell would run the ball down the field and then Lance would steal all the glory.
Also these scenes :love:
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbIEepu8Z4w[/youtube]
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeMyOmil6-E[/youtube]
Yeah, you're right. This ISU TCU game is crap, I'm gonna watch that right now.
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james van der beek's forehead looks even larger that usual in that clip.