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Title: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: MadCat on November 24, 2017, 06:28:21 PM
Do we have one of these yet?

(Bert out at Arkansas)

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Post by: The Big Train on November 25, 2017, 10:23:06 AM
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Post by: IPA4Me on November 25, 2017, 10:45:17 AM
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Post by: IPA4Me on November 25, 2017, 10:51:00 AM
Fake Bo is one of my favorite parody accounts.

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Post by: IPA4Me on November 25, 2017, 10:52:17 AM
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Post by: ChiCat on November 25, 2017, 10:57:58 AM
Sounds like Nubb v Florida for Scott Frost
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Post by: Pete on November 25, 2017, 11:03:53 AM
We will see how important Nebraska really is.
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Post by: WillieWatanabe on November 25, 2017, 11:10:21 AM
We will see how important Nebraska really is.

if they don't get Frost...how embarrassing.
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Post by: wetwillie on November 25, 2017, 11:22:26 AM
I hope frost bends them over with an absolutely ridiculous albatross of a contract. Like something that would make Travis Ford's 10 year deal look like child's play.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Joker on November 25, 2017, 11:26:32 AM
Better scenario:

Frost snubs a Nebraska offer and chooses the Gators.

Frost goes home to Nebraska, face plants, and they have to fire their own Golden child.

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Post by: bones129 on November 25, 2017, 11:27:46 AM
Charlie Weis is available.
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Post by: Shooter Jones on November 25, 2017, 11:37:21 AM
Sounds like Nubb v Florida for Scott Frost

Makes me wonder what Florida is offering sice Kelly chose UCLA over them for 4.5 mill a year.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Joker on November 25, 2017, 12:12:40 PM
Sounds like Nubb v Florida for Scott Frost

Makes me wonder what Florida is offering sice Kelly chose UCLA over them for 4.5 mill a year.
I'm guessing $$$ wasn't the primary factor in that decision.

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Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: MakeItRain on November 25, 2017, 12:57:07 PM
Better scenario:

Frost snubs a Nebraska offer and chooses the Gators.

Frost goes home to Nebraska, face plants, and they have to fire their own Golden child.

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Absolutely snubbing Nebraska. They are going to end up with their fourth choice again. They'll get Craig Bohl.
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Post by: WildcatPower on November 25, 2017, 01:00:55 PM
Sounds like Nubb v Florida for Scott Frost

Makes me wonder what Florida is offering sice Kelly chose UCLA over them for 4.5 mill a year.
I'm guessing $$$ wasn't the primary factor in that decision.

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I believe it.  I think with Kelly out of the NCAA for some time, he probably would be more comfortable coaching in a PAC 12 since he have familiarity to that conference?
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Post by: pvegs on November 25, 2017, 02:13:26 PM
Sounds like Nubb v Florida for Scott Frost

Makes me wonder what Florida is offering sice Kelly chose UCLA over them for 4.5 mill a year.
I'm guessing $$$ wasn't the primary factor in that decision.

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I believe it.  I think with Kelly out of the NCAA for some time, he probably would be more comfortable coaching in a PAC 12 since he have familiarity to that conference?

that's the way i interpreted the article i read this morning. reading between the lines, i also sensed he was thinking, the uf admin is great, but i don't want to live in a racist, shithole, swamp.
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Post by: wetwillie on November 26, 2017, 12:44:44 PM
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: resident LibBot dick holder on November 26, 2017, 12:47:08 PM
Sumlin to asu supposedly
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Post by: ksu101 on November 26, 2017, 12:49:55 PM
Anyone else hearing greg schiano to Tennessee?
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Pete on November 26, 2017, 12:50:33 PM


Well, that has to mean Frost to Nebraska.
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Post by: michigancat on November 26, 2017, 12:55:09 PM
Anyone else hearing greg schiano to Tennessee?

pretty amazing. tons of reasons currie would like him, but maybe more even more to think he wouldn't?
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: resident LibBot dick holder on November 26, 2017, 12:55:31 PM
Sumlin to asu supposedly

Nevermind
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Post by: nicname on November 26, 2017, 12:57:10 PM

This incestual coach poaching of the SEC has always been an oddity.
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Post by: Pete on November 26, 2017, 12:58:48 PM
Dan Wolken on Twitter: “Tennessee is finalizing the deal with Schiano. Hopes to name him later today, per person with direct knowledge.” http://ow.ly/kVQk100RPpI


The child rape comments are fun.
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Post by: OK_Cat on November 26, 2017, 01:02:05 PM
Currie lol


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Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Pete on November 26, 2017, 01:04:11 PM
LOL. Clay Travis is going to fist eff John Currie.

ClayTravis: Only way to stop Greg Schiano hire is massive social media revolt. Tag @John_Currie and tell him this hire is unacc… https://t.co/45TFuyv2KV
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: WildcatPower on November 26, 2017, 01:05:47 PM
Dan Wolken on Twitter: “Tennessee is finalizing the deal with Schiano. Hopes to name him later today, per person with direct knowledge.” http://ow.ly/kVQk100RPpI


The child rape comments are fun.

Oh dear god, let this happen.  Twitter (especially Tennessee Fans) will be on a epic nuclear meltdown....
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Pete on November 26, 2017, 01:06:12 PM
More from Clay Travis:

RT @ClayTravis: Hey @John_Currie you need to resign right now and let me make the rough ridin' hire. This is unacceptable. I will hire t… https://t.co/xjNAdIl4O3
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: That_Guy on November 26, 2017, 02:44:05 PM
I don’t get the Venables to Arkansas mindset as far as why Venables would want and or take that job


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Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: MakeItRain on November 26, 2017, 02:54:37 PM
I don’t get the Venables to Arkansas mindset as far as why Venables would want and or take that job


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Are you saying that you don't understand why Venables would want to become the head coach of Arkansas? It's the most obvious thing ever.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: muqluk on November 26, 2017, 03:32:35 PM
 :ROFL: Greg Schiano Seems an unusual choice for the guy that went dumpster diving for receipts to prove ‘suspected’ impropriety of a coach.

As for any SEC position right now, young up n comers are smart to avoid it like the plague.  Nubs has better expectations of their coaches - and dont have a perfectly legit absolutely dominant Alabama/Saban problem to overcome.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: ednksu on November 26, 2017, 03:50:23 PM
Knox paper is interviewing randos for reaction
https://www.facebook.com/knoxnews/videos/10155814748377649/
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: MadCat on November 26, 2017, 04:33:57 PM
Arizona State fired Todd Graham.
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Post by: chum1 on November 26, 2017, 04:48:41 PM
Holy crap. Good for Sumlin.

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Post by: chum1 on November 26, 2017, 05:01:13 PM
It's Jimbo!?

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Post by: OK_Cat on November 26, 2017, 05:12:28 PM
Wow


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Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Whisker Biscuit on November 26, 2017, 05:25:40 PM
$7.5m would make him the third highest paid coach in the NFL...right alongside Belicheck.

Is this real life?
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Whisker Biscuit on November 26, 2017, 05:28:26 PM
Guess i'm behind the times.  Didn't realize Saban is paid over $3m per year more than the highest paid NFL coach....over $11m per year.

http://sports.usatoday.com/ncaa/salaries/

$7.5m is really just a competitive salary for a top level coach. 
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Post by: BackPayne on November 26, 2017, 08:35:32 PM
Ole Miss hires a search firm, then promotes a current Ole Miss assistant coach. Good use of money. They must be getting some big sanctions.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: MakeItRain on November 26, 2017, 09:19:04 PM
They had a very good season considering what they went through. If that dude was getting it done, why change? I'm sure their candidate list was doo doo. I would have liked to see the list and if Venables was on it.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 27, 2017, 01:21:31 PM
Lots of good gems out there right now on Twitter. Apparently Florida called Gundy and he said nah.
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Post by: Shooter Jones on November 27, 2017, 01:30:36 PM
Hopefully the new Mississississippi State coach is a eff up and they stink butt to start the year so our Cats stand a chance next Sept.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: MakeItRain on November 27, 2017, 06:01:31 PM
Matt Campbell just agreed to a new contract, 6 years $22.5 million and another $1 million for his staff. No clue on the buyout yet.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Shooter Jones on November 27, 2017, 06:09:55 PM
Hopefully the new Mississississippi State coach is a eff up and they stink butt to start the year so our Cats stand a chance next Sept.

Oh crap.

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Post by: BostonPancake on November 27, 2017, 06:11:19 PM
eff.   :facepalm:
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Post by: HELLHAMMER on November 27, 2017, 06:46:42 PM
Tell them to get mumped Brent, please.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: muqluk on November 27, 2017, 07:00:52 PM
So this is fun

https://nebraska.247sports.com/Bolt/Report-Iowa-State-head-coach-Matt-Campbell-is-a-strong-candidate-at-Nebraska-111067597
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: catastrophe on November 27, 2017, 07:04:10 PM
Matt Campbell just agreed to a new contract, 6 years $22.5 million and another $1 million for his staff. No clue on the buyout yet.

Considering it’s obviously the only reason they renegotiated I’m going to guess it’s pretty sizeable.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: WillieWatanabe on November 27, 2017, 07:11:35 PM
So this is fun

https://nebraska.247sports.com/Bolt/Report-Iowa-State-head-coach-Matt-Campbell-is-a-strong-candidate-at-Nebraska-111067597

uhhh..
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: muqluk on November 27, 2017, 07:14:04 PM
So this is fun

https://nebraska.247sports.com/Bolt/Report-Iowa-State-head-coach-Matt-Campbell-is-a-strong-candidate-at-Nebraska-111067597

uhhh..

Swing and a miss?
 :D
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Post by: WildcatPower on November 27, 2017, 07:17:13 PM
So this is fun

https://nebraska.247sports.com/Bolt/Report-Iowa-State-head-coach-Matt-Campbell-is-a-strong-candidate-at-Nebraska-111067597

uhhh..


Swing and a miss?
 :D

*As Denny Matthews voice* "Game 7 of the World Series, bases loaded, two outs, here's the pitch.... a swing and a miss."
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Post by: IPA4Me on November 27, 2017, 07:24:31 PM
LOL. They certainly blew that one.
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Post by: pissclams on November 27, 2017, 08:21:32 PM
Matt Campbell just agreed to a new contract, 6 years $22.5 million and another $1 million for his staff. No clue on the buyout yet.

well deserved after his 7-5 “miracle in ames” season
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on November 27, 2017, 08:22:40 PM
No idea who Matt Luke is, but he gets $5+ million to hire assistant coaches and $2+ million to hire other staff.


I wonder what Snyds gets. That seems like a crap pot of money.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on November 27, 2017, 08:23:57 PM
Matt Campbell just agreed to a new contract, 6 years $22.5 million and another $1 million for his staff. No clue on the buyout yet.

well deserved after his 7-5 “miracle in ames” season

The equinox of equilibrium
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: michigancat on November 27, 2017, 08:25:23 PM
No idea who Matt Luke is, but he gets $5+ million to hire assistant coaches and $2+ million to hire other staff.


I wonder what Snyds gets. That seems like a crap pot of money.

isn't that the guy who was the interim too? $3 million seems high, but this is where we are.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on November 27, 2017, 08:28:31 PM
No idea, but he also gets $50k if they get an incredibly shitty apr score.
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Post by: WildcatPower on November 27, 2017, 08:29:15 PM
No idea who Matt Luke is, but he gets $5+ million to hire assistant coaches and $2+ million to hire other staff.


I wonder what Snyds gets. That seems like a crap pot of money.

isn't that the guy who was the interim too? $3 million seems high, but this is where we are.

Yes, he was interim after the Hugh Freeze scandal.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: pissclams on November 27, 2017, 08:33:03 PM
Matt Campbell just agreed to a new contract, 6 years $22.5 million and another $1 million for his staff. No clue on the buyout yet.

well deserved after his 7-5 “miracle in ames” season

The equinox of equilibrium

7-5, the accomplishment in ames


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Post by: resident LibBot dick holder on November 27, 2017, 08:34:25 PM
7-5, PRETTY rough ridin' GOOD in ames
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Post by: pissclams on November 27, 2017, 08:37:17 PM
7-5, PRETTY rough ridin' GOOD in ames

let’s lock him up, eff you herbstreit!
no one is going to rain on isu’s parade this time.  because if they did it would flood really badly.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: wetwillie on November 27, 2017, 08:43:15 PM
Who's still open? miss state, UT, Arkansas?
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Post by: BackPayne on November 27, 2017, 08:44:45 PM
Rice! OC for BYU!
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Post by: Joker on November 27, 2017, 08:58:12 PM
Quote
Sources told ESPN's Mark Schlabach that Frost met with Florida officials more than a week ago to discuss the Gators' vacancy, but he declined to meet again this past weekend to advance those talks. Florida officials were convinced Frost was taking the Nebraska job, so they offered their opening to Mississippi State's Dan Mullen, who was named the Gators' new coach Sunday.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on November 27, 2017, 09:02:06 PM
Frost's system doesn't seem like one that would fair well in the upper midwest. Nebraska's identity is the BLACKSHIRTS, not the crop top t-shirts.
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Post by: O-town Kat on November 27, 2017, 09:12:46 PM
Craig Bohl would've been a good hire for Nubb, someone who might fix their ass-y defense. Oh well got their guy see you in 4 years.
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Post by: Cire on November 27, 2017, 09:37:44 PM
Frost is Nebraska's venebles

I'm jealous


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Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: wetwillie on November 27, 2017, 09:44:38 PM
I'm not sure he can revive that wasteland of a program
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Post by: WildcatPower on November 27, 2017, 09:52:23 PM
Who's still open? miss state, UT, Arkansas?

Nebraska, Rice, South Alabama are a few off my head.
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Post by: michigancat on November 27, 2017, 09:59:09 PM
Who's still open? miss state, UT, Arkansas?

Nebraska, Rice, South Alabama are a few off my head.
And Arizona State and Oregon State and aTm

Crazy, aTm, Arkansas, Mississippi State, and ole Miss are all replacing coaches in the SEC West. And LSU did last year.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: WildcatNkilt on November 27, 2017, 10:02:21 PM
If Jimbo goes to A&M, FSU will be vacant.

Is A&M a better job?  Seems like Jimbo has an easier route to playoff in ACC.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: WildcatPower on November 27, 2017, 10:15:50 PM
If Jimbo goes to A&M, FSU will be vacant.

Is A&M a better job?  Seems like Jimbo has an easier route to playoff in ACC.

I wonder if there is something going to happen at FSU that caused Jimbo to jump ship. :ohno:
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Post by: cfbandyman on November 27, 2017, 10:22:33 PM
Who's still open? miss state, UT, Arkansas?

Nebraska, Rice, South Alabama are a few off my head.
And Arizona State and Oregon State and aTm

Crazy, aTm, Arkansas, Mississippi State, and ole Miss are all replacing coaches in the SEC West. And LSU did last year.

Having Bama, and every 3-4 years Auburn being amazeballs will do that to you.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: cfbandyman on November 27, 2017, 10:28:31 PM
Matt Campbell just agreed to a new contract, 6 years $22.5 million and another $1 million for his staff. No clue on the buyout yet.

well deserved after his 7-5 “miracle in ames” season

The equinox of equilibrium

7-5, the accomplishment in ames

Better than what they had under Proud Paul. Also winning @OU and TCU are pretty nice feathers in Campbell's cap.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: wetwillie on November 27, 2017, 10:32:51 PM
ISU was a damn good football team this year, farmageddon would happen if Saban was prowling the sidelines at Jack Trice
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: michigancat on November 27, 2017, 10:33:19 PM
Who's still open? miss state, UT, Arkansas?

Nebraska, Rice, South Alabama are a few off my head.
And Arizona State and Oregon State and aTm

Crazy, aTm, Arkansas, Mississippi State, and ole Miss are all replacing coaches in the SEC West. And LSU did last year.

Having Bama, and every 3-4 years Auburn being amazeballs will do that to you.
When you have five coaching changes in a division in a single year, it's generally because those teams kinda suck.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: MakeItRain on November 27, 2017, 10:58:28 PM
If Jimbo goes to A&M, FSU will be vacant.

Is A&M a better job?  Seems like Jimbo has an easier route to playoff in ACC.

I wonder if there is something going to happen at FSU that caused Jimbo to jump ship. :ohno:

No problems at FSU just
(https://media.giphy.com/media/n59dQcO9yaaaY/giphy.gif)
at A&M
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: muqluk on November 27, 2017, 11:05:24 PM
Who's still open? miss state, UT, Arkansas?

Nebraska, Rice, South Alabama are a few off my head.
And Arizona State and Oregon State and aTm

Crazy, aTm, Arkansas, Mississippi State, and ole Miss are all replacing coaches in the SEC West. And LSU did last year.

Having Bama, and every 3-4 years Auburn being amazeballs will do that to you.
When you have five coaching changes in a division in a single year, it's generally because those teams kinda suck.

Seems like those schools would be money better spent on hiring a few private investigators to dig up dirt on 'Bama and try to oust Saban.  Until he retires (or something is revealed to be less than savory) they're just going to be cycling through the next failure.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: pissclams on November 28, 2017, 08:02:26 AM
Matt Campbell just agreed to a new contract, 6 years $22.5 million and another $1 million for his staff. No clue on the buyout yet.

well deserved after his 7-5 “miracle in ames” season

The equinox of equilibrium

7-5, the accomplishment in ames

Better than what they had under Proud Paul. Also winning @OU and TCU are pretty nice feathers in Campbell's cap.

7-5, “Better than Paul Rhodes”, let’s lock him up
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: schreds21 on November 28, 2017, 08:51:03 AM
7-5, PRETTY rough ridin' GOOD in ames

let’s lock him up, eff you herbstreit!
no one is going to rain on isu’s parade this time. because if they did it would flood really badly.
:ROFL:
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: cfbandyman on November 28, 2017, 09:09:23 AM
Matt Campbell just agreed to a new contract, 6 years $22.5 million and another $1 million for his staff. No clue on the buyout yet.

well deserved after his 7-5 “miracle in ames” season

The equinox of equilibrium

7-5, the accomplishment in ames

Better than what they had under Proud Paul. Also winning @OU and TCU are pretty nice feathers in Campbell's cap.

7-5, “Better than Paul Rhodes”, let’s lock him up

They can do whatever TF they want, not like it affects our ability to pull out a win again them. Let them have their mediocre cookie
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: kso_FAN on November 28, 2017, 09:19:22 AM
Matt Campbell just agreed to a new contract, 6 years $22.5 million and another $1 million for his staff. No clue on the buyout yet.

well deserved after his 7-5 “miracle in ames” season

The equinox of equilibrium

7-5, the accomplishment in ames

Better than what they had under Proud Paul. Also winning @OU and TCU are pretty nice feathers in Campbell's cap.

7-5, “Better than Paul Rhodes”, let’s lock him up

I mean, kind of, but not by much.

Also, this is Iowa State we're talking about, and this excitement seems familiar. Granted, I'll say that Campbell is a better coach and this is better than any of Paul's seasons.

http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/7360117/paul-rhoads-iowa-state-cyclones-agree-10-year-20-million-contract
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Shooter Jones on November 28, 2017, 10:06:07 AM
Currie is posted up at a hotel in Dallas. crap is about to go down.

Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: DOD Take 2 on November 28, 2017, 10:09:26 AM
Getting Gundy would be a great get for ol Cur-dog considering the circumstances
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Trim on November 28, 2017, 10:33:38 AM
Is their strife in OSU's ADept.?  Thought maybe I remember hearing about Pickens vs. the AD years ago, but that was more in hoops context.  It'd come down to how much Gundy wants out and if he'd disregard or not get OBz' warnings.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: catastrophe on November 28, 2017, 10:48:42 AM
Unless it’s a ton of money, I just don’t see much upside for Gundy at Tennessee. He will definitely interview though to angle for a contract boost and extension.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: wetwillie on November 28, 2017, 10:53:02 AM
Gundy would be a home run for Tennessee. 
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: cfbandyman on November 28, 2017, 10:56:32 AM
Gundy leaving OSU would be stupid on his part. I'm honestly surprised he is even interviewing, he's pretty much been a staple in some way shape or form at OSU since he was a QB handing the ball off to Barry Sanders.

He's in a place that (mostly) loves him and he's clearly got them winning 9+ games on the reg. Maybe it is a ploy to get Boone to cough up some more dough.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: everyone shut up on November 28, 2017, 11:05:33 AM
If the mullet leaves, maybe we'll get more recruits
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Shooter Jones on November 28, 2017, 11:21:35 AM
Guys, give me some of the best follows on twitter dealing with all these coaching rumors/speculation.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: mhkpasa on November 28, 2017, 11:34:21 AM
Guys, give me some of the best follows on twitter dealing with all these coaching rumors/speculation.

Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: manpow5 on November 28, 2017, 11:43:26 AM
Guys, give me some of the best follows on twitter dealing with all these coaching rumors/speculation.


Smoke and mirrors. They did the same thing at the beginning of the coaching search to throw people off.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Joker on November 28, 2017, 11:53:58 AM
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: ksuchris2000 on November 28, 2017, 12:30:06 PM
Is their strife in OSU's ADept.?  Thought maybe I remember hearing about Pickens vs. the AD years ago, but that was more in hoops context.  It'd come down to how much Gundy wants out and if he'd disregard or not get OBz' warnings.

Pickens loves Mike Holder and is probably the only reason Mike still has the job. Brad Underwood quit basically because Holder did not support "championship level basketball"...

By all accounts, Gundy cant stand Holder and Gundy tolerates Pickens, although Pickens and Gundy have seemed to publicly bury the hatchet this year.

This explains the relationships pretty well...

"Before Pickens would make stadium-specific donations of $165 million in 2006 and $63 million in 2008, he negotiated for Holder to become the athletic director."

http://www.tulsaworld.com/sportsextra/osusportsextra/bill-haisten-timeline-is-fluid-but-mike-holder-s-osu/article_30bf4bec-deeb-5430-baa4-fec3be8d99e6.html

Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: pissclams on November 28, 2017, 12:49:15 PM
why would gundy leave OSU for UT?
why the eff wouldn't he?  he's been stuck in stillwater, OK for essentially the past 30 years.  imagine the hell that must be.  ut brings in what, 100k fans per game in the sec?  he's ready for it.  i don't agree that it's a move for younger coaches but why not get out of that hell hole and our crap conference and get paid, seems like a no brainer.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: resident LibBot dick holder on November 28, 2017, 01:00:59 PM
He also has seemingly plateaued, sometimes a change of scenery can help
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: BMWWcat on November 28, 2017, 01:41:39 PM
Plus at this point you know the UTenn donors will be throwing money at him so they can get a good coach...but more importantly save face by showing that they can hire a good coach still. For a crap load of money anyways.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Joker on November 28, 2017, 01:50:53 PM
 :sdeek:  So Mullen was their 4th choice after Kelly, Frost, and Gundy turned them down?

Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: kso_FAN on November 28, 2017, 02:11:14 PM
If so, that's a really great 4th choice.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: yoga-like_abana on November 28, 2017, 02:37:43 PM
Unless it’s a ton of money, I just don’t see much upside for Gundy at Tennessee. He will definitely interview though to angle for a contract boost and extension.
saw $8.2M I wouldn't even need to mullet over I'd go for that
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: catastrophe on November 28, 2017, 03:01:20 PM
$8.2 million is some serious face saving money. If Gundy goes for it you know he’s going to have a big chunk of it guaranteed too.

No other reason you’d turn down Florida to go for Tennessee.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on November 28, 2017, 03:06:10 PM
Tennessee getting Gundy would really make me wonder just who would be coaching our basketball team if our fans had forced Currie to not take oscar.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: catastrophe on November 28, 2017, 03:29:48 PM
Tennessee getting Gundy would really make me wonder just who would be coaching our basketball team if our fans had forced Currie to not take oscar.

Some guy who probably would not be here anymore would be my guess.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on November 28, 2017, 03:35:52 PM
Tennessee getting Gundy would really make me wonder just who would be coaching our basketball team if our fans had forced Currie to not take oscar.

Some guy who probably would not be here anymore would be my guess.

That sounds great to me.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: MakeItRain on November 28, 2017, 04:33:54 PM
Tennessee getting Gundy would really make me wonder just who would be coaching our basketball team if our fans had forced Currie to not take oscar.

I kept pointing to Currie replacing Deb with another Big 12 head coach but y'all didn't want to listen.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: meow meow on November 28, 2017, 04:38:16 PM
Tennessee getting Gundy would really make me wonder just who would be coaching our basketball team if our fans had forced Currie to not take oscar.

I kept pointing to Currie replacing Deb with another Big 12 head coach but y'all didn't want to listen.

still have oscar tho
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: MakeItRain on November 28, 2017, 04:43:12 PM
Tennessee getting Gundy would really make me wonder just who would be coaching our basketball team if our fans had forced Currie to not take oscar.

I kept pointing to Currie replacing Deb with another Big 12 head coach but y'all didn't want to listen.

still have oscar tho

That can be rationalized to fit his model, absolutely don't want to go down that rabbit hole here though
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on November 28, 2017, 04:52:11 PM
Tennessee getting Gundy would really make me wonder just who would be coaching our basketball team if our fans had forced Currie to not take oscar.

I kept pointing to Currie replacing Deb with another Big 12 head coach but y'all didn't want to listen.

Currie preferred Schiano to Gundy, though. Tennessee is only (potentially) getting Gundy because they reacted so strongly to the Schiano hire.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: catastrophe on November 28, 2017, 05:20:09 PM
Tennessee is only (potentially) getting Gundy because the University and fans are willing to overpay out the ass to save face. $8.4 million would not have been a realistic sum for a guy with one conference championship and zero playoff appearances without  this CF.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: XocolateThundarr on November 28, 2017, 05:21:15 PM

Earlier it showed a flight plan for Stillwater.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: WildcatPower on November 28, 2017, 05:24:17 PM
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Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Shooter Jones on November 28, 2017, 05:26:49 PM
Could be an interesting domino effect that could involve K-State if Jimbo Fisher is pushed out/leaves FSU.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: IPA4Me on November 28, 2017, 05:48:19 PM
Could be an interesting domino effect that could involve K-State if Jimbo Fisher is pushed out/leaves FSU.
How do you think?
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Shooter Jones on November 28, 2017, 06:07:15 PM
Could be an interesting domino effect that could involve K-State if Jimbo Fisher is pushed out/leaves FSU.
How do you think?

Jimbo moves on, Taggart leaves Oregon for FSU (he and Strong (lol) rumored to be top candidates), Oregon brings in new coach/staff, Leavitt unemployed?

Definitely a reach, but sounds like Jimbo leaving Tally sounds pretty likely at least.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: IPA4Me on November 28, 2017, 06:15:50 PM
Interesting take. I'd suspect Leavitt interviews for the HC role in that scenario.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: MakeItRain on November 28, 2017, 06:25:56 PM
Tennessee is only (potentially) getting Gundy because the University and fans are willing to overpay out the ass to save face. $8.4 million would not have been a realistic sum for a guy with one conference championship and zero playoff appearances without  this CF.

Someone posted last week that they offered Gruden $10 million a year
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: WildcatPower on November 28, 2017, 06:29:31 PM
Tennessee is only (potentially) getting Gundy because the University and fans are willing to overpay out the ass to save face. $8.4 million would not have been a realistic sum for a guy with one conference championship and zero playoff appearances without  this CF.

On the plus side, it helps that OSU won’t be stealing some of our recruits if he goes to Tennessee.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Skipper44 on November 28, 2017, 06:33:47 PM
Hopefully Holder has had enough of K-State guys and doesn't hire Brent
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: catastrophe on November 28, 2017, 06:34:25 PM
Tennessee is only (potentially) getting Gundy because the University and fans are willing to overpay out the ass to save face. $8.4 million would not have been a realistic sum for a guy with one conference championship and zero playoff appearances without  this CF.

Someone posted last week that they offered Gruden $10 million a year

I’d be surprised if that’s true, but regardless Gruden has a Super Bowl ring.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: WildcatPower on November 28, 2017, 06:42:33 PM
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Whisker Biscuit on November 28, 2017, 06:49:27 PM

"Gundy thinking about it overnight":  read - Gundy's soliciting a counter offer from OSU hoping it's close enough so he doesn't have to spend the rest of his coaching years putting up with Curries crap.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: wetwillie on November 28, 2017, 07:00:27 PM
Les Miles to okie lite would be really fun
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: DOD Take 2 on November 28, 2017, 07:43:36 PM
Interesting take. I'd suspect Leavitt interviews for the HC role in that scenario.

If this chain of events were to happen quickly enough Oregon could try to bring back Frost too. Doubtful he’d take it but you never know
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Pete on November 28, 2017, 07:45:17 PM

"Gundy thinking about it overnight":  read - Gundy's soliciting a counter offer from OSU hoping it's close enough so he doesn't have to spend the rest of his coaching years putting up with Curries crap.


Yep
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Shooter Jones on November 28, 2017, 07:50:43 PM
Well hopefully they contacted T Boone Clampett before he went to bed at 6pm.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: MakeItRain on November 28, 2017, 08:03:46 PM

"Gundy thinking about it overnight":  read - Gundy's soliciting a counter offer from OSU hoping it's close enough so he doesn't have to spend the rest of his coaching years putting up with Curries crap.

I thought that when this happened with Gundy two years ago they did what Mizzou did to Mike Anderson and they said they wouldn't renegotiate his contract again.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: MakeItRain on November 28, 2017, 08:04:54 PM
Interesting take. I'd suspect Leavitt interviews for the HC role in that scenario.

If this chain of events were to happen quickly enough Oregon could try to bring back Frost too. Doubtful he’d take it but you never know

He's going to Nebraska but why wouldn't he go to Oregon, that's a very good job
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Chingon on November 28, 2017, 08:09:56 PM
Leavitt vs Schiano is an interesting comparison....
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: MakeItRain on November 28, 2017, 08:23:00 PM
Give me Schiano in that scenario. They have similar head coaching resumes, and they had similar jobs at the same time. I do think USF is an easier place to win with the built in recruiting base and the easier admissions. Probably not better enough to matter very much though.

I give Schiano the advantage because of his NFL ties and the fact that he's worked under Urban Meyer and Bill Belichick. He's also younger.

They even have similar warts. The biggest difference is that Schiano has never been accused for choking a kid. All of his issues occurred in the NFL and it sounds like he was doing that bullshit that college coaches but he did them with pros, which obviously doesn't work with men with leverage.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: WillieWatanabe on November 28, 2017, 08:26:36 PM
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: wetwillie on November 28, 2017, 08:28:31 PM
:lol:
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: everyone shut up on November 28, 2017, 08:28:56 PM
Who turns down 42 million?
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: chum1 on November 28, 2017, 08:38:15 PM
When you're making 4.5 and happy, what's another 2.5 gonna do for you?
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 28, 2017, 08:38:34 PM
Who turns down 42 million?
Ppl who don't want to be around a crazy cult and already home and taken care of
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: WillieWatanabe on November 28, 2017, 08:38:41 PM
Brent is still safe.

Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: everyone shut up on November 28, 2017, 08:43:24 PM
When you're making 4.5 and happy, what's another 2.5 gonna do for you?

A lot
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: wetwillie on November 28, 2017, 08:50:35 PM
"sorry john but im going to have to decline. oh and LHC Bill Snyder wanted me to tell you to go eff yourself"
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: WildcatNkilt on November 28, 2017, 08:54:07 PM
Gundy had a high chance of failing in the SEC.  Last thing he wants is to suck for 3 years, get fired, and end up at a place he doesn’t want to be.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 28, 2017, 09:01:29 PM
When you're making 4.5 and happy, what's another 2.5 gonna do for you?

A lot
And you don't think he got a raise after this?
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: wetwillie on November 28, 2017, 09:05:24 PM
Gopokes says it was 6 years 50 million :sdeek:
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: DOD Take 2 on November 28, 2017, 09:26:09 PM
Interesting take. I'd suspect Leavitt interviews for the HC role in that scenario.

If this chain of events were to happen quickly enough Oregon could try to bring back Frost too. Doubtful he’d take it but you never know

He's going to Nebraska but why wouldn't he go to Oregon, that's a very good job

Meant to imply that he’s taking Nebraska job
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: WildcatPower on November 28, 2017, 09:27:27 PM
Ouch, Tennessee’s prestige
just
took another hit.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: LeggoKatZ on November 28, 2017, 09:53:38 PM
What's up with Currie going to Dallas for his coaching searches? 
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: WildcatNkilt on November 28, 2017, 10:03:03 PM
What's up with Currie going to Dallas for his coaching searches?

That is his thinking spot.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: WildcatPower on November 28, 2017, 10:07:14 PM
What's up with Currie going to Dallas for his coaching searches?

That is his thinking spot.

Chad Morris.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: ballboy55 on November 28, 2017, 10:08:30 PM
Manhattan Regional Airport air service keeps getting better and better with those American Eagle flights. Currie probably flies from Knoxville to Chicago to take advantage of flights into Manhattan and routed to Dallas.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: catastrophe on November 28, 2017, 10:39:54 PM
$7 million wasn’t gonna cut it. Probably could have gotten there for $8+ with a good chunk of it guaranteed, but you just know Currie couldn’t bring himself to piss away that kind of money, even in a situation like this.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: SkinnyBenny on November 28, 2017, 11:11:45 PM
Gopokes says it was 6 years 50 million :sdeek:

What, Currie's offer to Gundy? Or Gundy's raise from T. Boone & Co.?
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: MakeItRain on November 28, 2017, 11:32:49 PM
Brent is still safe.


I think the UCF job is the best landing spot for him.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: MakeItRain on November 28, 2017, 11:36:25 PM
Leavitt vs Schiano is an interesting comparison....

Guys, Chingon has s fun game, no one else wants to play?
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: bones129 on November 29, 2017, 12:28:26 AM
If Currie thought enough of Leavitt to try to lure him here as HCIW, why isn't he pursuing him for the TN job?
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: #LIFE on November 29, 2017, 12:41:59 AM
If Currie thought enough of Leavitt to try to lure him here as HCIW, why isn't he pursuing him for the TN job?

Currie just wanted to strut like a peacock when his hire at K-State made a bowl game, then he was dipping. I hope this gets a lot worse, that sack of crap deserves every bit of it too
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: wetwillie on November 29, 2017, 06:28:01 AM
Gopokes says it was 6 years 50 million :sdeek:

What, Currie's offer to Gundy? Or Gundy's raise from T. Boone & Co.?

The offer from UT to Gundy
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: kso_FAN on November 29, 2017, 06:57:55 AM
Give me Schiano in that scenario. They have similar head coaching resumes, and they had similar jobs at the same time. I do think USF is an easier place to win with the built in recruiting base and the easier admissions. Probably not better enough to matter very much though.

I give Schiano the advantage because of his NFL ties and the fact that he's worked under Urban Meyer and Bill Belichick. He's also younger.

They even have similar warts. The biggest difference is that Schiano has never been accused for choking a kid. All of his issues occurred in the NFL and it sounds like he was doing that bullshit that college coaches but he did them with pros, which obviously doesn't work with men with leverage.

Those are all good points.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: ednksu on November 29, 2017, 08:15:38 AM
I can't believe Jimbo to Collie cult. Yeah he needed to refresh some assistants, and it's damn near offensive to let Chris Weinke coach consult at Bama, but he seem to put himself on the lists to leave yearly.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 29, 2017, 08:29:35 AM
It's not official yet, right?
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Dlew12 on November 29, 2017, 08:38:53 AM
I used to think leavitt was a pretty mediocre coach, but after seeing his effect on the Colorado and Oregon defenses, I've started to change my mind.  Hard for me to compare him to Schiano because I don't know much about Schiano outside of Rutgers, but I do think Leavitt is a v. good d-coordinator.  Right up there with Venables in my mind.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Shooter Jones on November 29, 2017, 09:28:45 AM
I can't believe Jimbo to Collie cult. Yeah he needed to refresh some assistants, and it's damn near offensive to let Chris Weinke s[]coach[/s] consult at Bama, but he seem to put himself on the lists to leave yearly.

From what I've read, it's more of Jimbo misplaying his cards the last month. Dabbling in new jobs (LSU, Texas, etc.) every off season to get another raise, and everyone called his bluff this time and basically told him to leave then. Not a done deal to leave but he's being pressured to find the best falling spot to GTFO.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Shooter Jones on November 29, 2017, 09:40:47 AM
Interesting take. I'd suspect Leavitt interviews for the HC role in that scenario.

If this chain of events were to happen quickly enough Oregon could try to bring back Frost too. Doubtful he’d take it but you never know

He's going to Nebraska but why wouldn't he go to Oregon, that's a very good job

A few things could happen. I doubt Oregon would consider Leavitt a serious replacement, and could see them throwing a ton of money at Frost. But would Leavitt follow Taggert to FSU or consider K-State simply as a DC? No HCIW crap involved.

Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: ChiCat on November 29, 2017, 09:48:53 AM
I think Leavitt would consider KSU DC with no HCIW but I don't know that Snyder would let it happen.  He knows that if Leavitt comes here in any capacity that its a threat to Sean.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: MakeItRain on November 29, 2017, 09:50:11 AM
Interesting take. I'd suspect Leavitt interviews for the HC role in that scenario.

If this chain of events were to happen quickly enough Oregon could try to bring back Frost too. Doubtful he’d take it but you never know

He's going to Nebraska but why wouldn't he go to Oregon, that's a very good job

A few things could happen. I doubt Oregon would consider Leavitt a serious replacement, and could see them throwing a ton of money at Frost. But would Leavitt follow Taggert to FSU or consider K-State simply as a DC? No HCIW crap involved.


Given their current circumstance I would wonder the level of tolerance for Florida State to employ a coach, even a coordinator, with one foot seemingly out of the door.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Shooter Jones on November 29, 2017, 10:04:14 AM
I think Leavitt would consider KSU DC with no HCIW but I don't know that Snyder would let it happen.  He knows that if Leavitt comes here in any capacity that its a threat to Sean.

From all indications Bill has to be negotiating a new financial agreement (if one hasn't already been agreed on) in his contract over the next two months. The Mustang needs to use this as leverage to stop the Sean crap, make some changes for the good of the program, or tell Bill to GTFO. If that doesn't happen by the end of Jan., I could see Bill continuing the Sean or absolutely nothing else mindset for the next 3-5 years.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: everyone shut up on November 29, 2017, 10:10:05 AM
You really think Mustang is telling Bill to GTFO?
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: KSURFC8 on November 29, 2017, 10:11:08 AM
I think Leavitt would consider KSU DC with no HCIW but I don't know that Snyder would let it happen.  He knows that if Leavitt comes here in any capacity that its a threat to Sean.

From all indications Bill has to be negotiating a new financial agreement (if one hasn't already been agreed on) in his contract over the next two months. The Mustang needs to use this as leverage to stop the Sean crap, make some changes for the good of the program, or tell Bill to GTFO. If that doesn't happen by the end of Jan., I could see Bill continuing the Sean or absolutely nothing else mindset for the next 3-5 years.

You don't think that same logic applies, at least in part, as to why we can't seem to bring in any quality OC/DCs during this version? That and of course the fact (a little speculative I know) that HCBS can't seem to find it in himself (or his DIR of Football Operations) to look another grown man in the eye and tell him that he's fired.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Shooter Jones on November 29, 2017, 10:13:17 AM
You really think Mustang is telling Bill to GTFO?

Hell no, I picture the Stang absolutely hating confrontation. Like his neighbor would just blows his leaves over onto the Mustangs lawn and he'd just let it keep happening type crap.

One can dream, though.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: ednksu on November 29, 2017, 10:22:19 AM
I can't believe Jimbo to Collie cult. Yeah he needed to refresh some assistants, and it's damn near offensive to let Chris Weinke s[]coach[/s] consult at Bama, but he seem to put himself on the lists to leave yearly.

From what I've read, it's more of Jimbo misplaying his cards the last month. Dabbling in new jobs (LSU, Texas, etc.) every off season to get another raise, and everyone called his bluff this time and basically told him to leave then. Not a done deal to leave but he's being pressured to find the best falling spot to GTFO.

That's mostly the way I see it.  I'm sure a lot was leveraging, but he has had turnover with assistants and try replacements aren't cutting it IMO.  They were nearly out on bowl eligibility this year.  Yes losing Deandre was big, but a near total collapse is unacceptable and there is a lot of heat for a shakeup.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: MakeItRain on November 29, 2017, 10:30:31 AM
I think Leavitt would consider KSU DC with no HCIW but I don't know that Snyder would let it happen.  He knows that if Leavitt comes here in any capacity that its a threat to Sean.

From all indications Bill has to be negotiating a new financial agreement (if one hasn't already been agreed on) in his contract over the next two months. The Mustang needs to use this as leverage to stop the Sean crap, make some changes for the good of the program, or tell Bill to GTFO. If that doesn't happen by the end of Jan., I could see Bill continuing the Sean or absolutely nothing else mindset for the next 3-5 years.

LOL, I'll have what you're having. and ROTFLMAO at acting like Taylor is unique in his inability to do this. There isn't an athletic director in America that is going to be comfortable making demands to LHC Bill Snyder after being on the job for only six months.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Whisker Biscuit on November 29, 2017, 10:44:11 AM
I think Leavitt would consider KSU DC with no HCIW but I don't know that Snyder would let it happen.  He knows that if Leavitt comes here in any capacity that its a threat to Sean.

So you are saying Bill lied about offering Leavitt a job last year before he took the Oregon DC job?
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: catastrophe on November 29, 2017, 10:45:02 AM
I imagine the mustang this be just like “action Jack” from Silicon Valley.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: catastrophe on November 29, 2017, 10:45:32 AM
I think Leavitt would consider KSU DC with no HCIW but I don't know that Snyder would let it happen.  He knows that if Leavitt comes here in any capacity that its a threat to Sean.

So you are saying Bill lied about offering Leavitt a job last year before he took the Oregon DC job?

I thought the offer was as a position coach.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Maccat on November 29, 2017, 10:46:27 AM
I'm sure Bill will hire Michael Smith back in some capacity for offense now that Bert got fired at Arkansas.  Maybe replace Dimel.  That way there is no threat to Sean of the OC taking over HC.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: ChiCat on November 29, 2017, 10:49:01 AM
I think Leavitt would consider KSU DC with no HCIW but I don't know that Snyder would let it happen.  He knows that if Leavitt comes here in any capacity that its a threat to Sean.

So you are saying Bill lied about offering Leavitt a job last year before he took the Oregon DC job?

Even if he was telling the truth, the news that leaked about Leavitt's HCIW offer as well as the HC out in his Oregon contract could have changed things quite a bit.  Leavitt's been making big plays for the HC job in the last year which pretty clearly isn't what Snyder wants when he retires.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Shooter Jones on November 29, 2017, 10:51:39 AM
I think Leavitt would consider KSU DC with no HCIW but I don't know that Snyder would let it happen.  He knows that if Leavitt comes here in any capacity that its a threat to Sean.

From all indications Bill has to be negotiating a new financial agreement (if one hasn't already been agreed on) in his contract over the next two months. The Mustang needs to use this as leverage to stop the Sean crap, make some changes for the good of the program, or tell Bill to GTFO. If that doesn't happen by the end of Jan., I could see Bill continuing the Sean or absolutely nothing else mindset for the next 3-5 years.

LOL, I'll have what you're having. and ROTFLMAO at acting like Taylor is unique in his inability to do this. There isn't an athletic director in America that is going to be comfortable making demands to LHC Bill Snyder after being on the job for only six months.

I said one could dream, dude.

Also, though. I would say similar situations are Bowden and Beamer. Which the AD's that worked the transitions at the time had been at FSU/VT for less than 2 years. Not really sure what your point is, cause I see having an AD without lengthy university ties as a good thing in that situation.

But again, I know it was a stretch.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: MakeItRain on November 29, 2017, 11:32:48 AM
I think Leavitt would consider KSU DC with no HCIW but I don't know that Snyder would let it happen.  He knows that if Leavitt comes here in any capacity that its a threat to Sean.

From all indications Bill has to be negotiating a new financial agreement (if one hasn't already been agreed on) in his contract over the next two months. The Mustang needs to use this as leverage to stop the Sean crap, make some changes for the good of the program, or tell Bill to GTFO. If that doesn't happen by the end of Jan., I could see Bill continuing the Sean or absolutely nothing else mindset for the next 3-5 years.

LOL, I'll have what you're having. and ROTFLMAO at acting like Taylor is unique in his inability to do this. There isn't an athletic director in America that is going to be comfortable making demands to LHC Bill Snyder after being on the job for only six months.

I said one could dream, dude.

Also, though. I would say similar situations are Bowden and Beamer. Which the AD's that worked the transitions at the time had been at FSU/VT for less than 2 years. Not really sure what your point is, cause I see having an AD without lengthy university ties as a good thing in that situation.

But again, I know it was a stretch.

I'm not sure what happened at Tech, but it was the President of Florida State, T.K. Wetherell, who forced Bowden out. Wetherell was at FSU for a long time and was friends with Bowden. In this case it'd be like Wefald forcing Snyder out, which was certainly plausible.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: ednksu on November 29, 2017, 03:33:47 PM
I think Leavitt would consider KSU DC with no HCIW but I don't know that Snyder would let it happen.  He knows that if Leavitt comes here in any capacity that its a threat to Sean.

From all indications Bill has to be negotiating a new financial agreement (if one hasn't already been agreed on) in his contract over the next two months. The Mustang needs to use this as leverage to stop the Sean crap, make some changes for the good of the program, or tell Bill to GTFO. If that doesn't happen by the end of Jan., I could see Bill continuing the Sean or absolutely nothing else mindset for the next 3-5 years.

LOL, I'll have what you're having. and ROTFLMAO at acting like Taylor is unique in his inability to do this. There isn't an athletic director in America that is going to be comfortable making demands to LHC Bill Snyder after being on the job for only six months.

I said one could dream, dude.

Also, though. I would say similar situations are Bowden and Beamer. Which the AD's that worked the transitions at the time had been at FSU/VT for less than 2 years. Not really sure what your point is, cause I see having an AD without lengthy university ties as a good thing in that situation.

But again, I know it was a stretch.

I'm not sure what happened at Tech, but it was the President of Florida State, T.K. Wetherell, who forced Bowden out. Wetherell was at FSU for a long time and was friends with Bowden. In this case it'd be like Wefald forcing Snyder out, which was certainly plausible.

The situations have some comparisons, but there was so much more going on (which you probably know) especially with Jeff's offense.  I can't imagine the cat backer raising money specifically to buy out one of Bill assistants, let alone Sean.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: wetwillie on November 29, 2017, 09:53:16 PM
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: catastrophe on November 29, 2017, 10:14:35 PM
Well that will be fun news to receive from Twitter for the ASU President.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: MakeItRain on November 29, 2017, 10:57:23 PM
That ASU job is brokedick. They are making the head coach keep both coordinators.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 29, 2017, 11:08:09 PM
I do like herm. I feel like he'd be a good recruiter. He does all the UA All American HS Camps. Seems like a fun guy to play for. Hopefully he gets coordinators to help what he lacks.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: MakeItRain on November 29, 2017, 11:33:40 PM
Wacky, dude.
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Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 29, 2017, 11:40:45 PM
Ya, I know, it's a long shot, but it's ASU. I also didn't read your previous post. whoops!
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: DOD Take 2 on November 29, 2017, 11:47:55 PM
That ASU job is brokedick. They are making the head coach keep both coordinators.

Yeah people here weren’t thrilled with Graham getting fired already so this should really piss some people off. Weird ass situation they’ve created. I think Herms an awful choice and will burnout in 2-3 years of sucking
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: WildcatPower on November 30, 2017, 12:12:27 AM
I do like herm. I feel like he'd be a good recruiter. He does all the UA All American HS Camps. Seems like a fun guy to play for. Hopefully he gets coordinators to help what he lacks.

I don't know, I don't think it's a good hire.  The last time he coached was in 2008 in Kansas City.  And he doesn't have any college experience since what, 1987-1989?  *whistles*  ASU is taking a big risk.  I'll give him that he's a good bullshitter and the players love playing for him, but..... I don't know if that'll work in the college levels.  I think a fair comparison to him might be Lovie Smith, who's not doing so well in Illinois.....

Even if the coordinators are kept, I'm sure that he will find a way to screw that up.  This is a guy who is a Schottenheimer Disciple as his game is more suited for the SEC/BIG10 style, not the aerial circus/arena football style in the PAC12.

Big risk.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: catastrophe on November 30, 2017, 07:58:31 AM
One thing I’m almost certain of: Herm would make a better college football coach than Gottleib would make a college basketball coach.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Joker on November 30, 2017, 08:44:24 AM
Herm feels like a celebrity hire.

"Hey, look at us! We got the NFL guy from that TV show!"
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Chingon on November 30, 2017, 09:37:18 AM
It's hard to think of two different personalities than Herm and Lovie.  But I guess they are some in one superficial way.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: MakeItRain on November 30, 2017, 09:40:03 AM
It's hard to think of two different personalities than Herm and Lovie.  But I guess they are some in one superficial

Who compared Herm and Lovie? That's hilarious.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: michigancat on November 30, 2017, 10:10:11 AM
One thing I’m almost certain of: Herm would make a better college football coach than Gottleib would make a college basketball coach.

weird certainty
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Dlew12 on November 30, 2017, 11:42:36 AM
i don't think it's that weird.. obviously they're different personalities, but i'm always weary of hiring NFL guys who don't know the college game.

also they're both black so they're alike in that way too. 

fwiw, my Illini friends are still optimistic about Lovie.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: MadCat on November 30, 2017, 02:33:39 PM
It's hard to think of two different personalities than Herm and Lovie.  But I guess they are some in one superficial

Who compared Herm and Lovie? That's hilarious.

https://sports.yahoo.com/coaching-carousel-herm-edwards-asu-just-doesnt-make-sense-051025957.html (https://sports.yahoo.com/coaching-carousel-herm-edwards-asu-just-doesnt-make-sense-051025957.html)
Quote from: Pete Thamel - Yahoo! Sports
The overwhelming feeling among athletic administrators, between chuckles, is that this hire will turn into a Lovie Smith Sequel – an out-of-touch NFL coach returning to college for one last pay bump before retirement.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: MakeItRain on November 30, 2017, 03:24:06 PM
It's hard to think of two different personalities than Herm and Lovie.  But I guess they are some in one superficial

Who compared Herm and Lovie? That's hilarious.

https://sports.yahoo.com/coaching-carousel-herm-edwards-asu-just-doesnt-make-sense-051025957.html (https://sports.yahoo.com/coaching-carousel-herm-edwards-asu-just-doesnt-make-sense-051025957.html)
Quote from: Pete Thamel - Yahoo! Sports
The overwhelming feeling among athletic administrators, between chuckles, is that this hire will turn into a Lovie Smith Sequel – an out-of-touch NFL coach returning to college for one last pay bump before retirement.

:opcat:
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: chum1 on November 30, 2017, 04:33:05 PM
 :lol:

Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: MakeItRain on December 01, 2017, 09:50:38 AM
This stuff at Tennessee has robbed exposure to an amazing story about the Mississippi State search.


Mississippi State fan’s intel from strip club accurately predicts Joe Moorhead hiring
Hours before Mississippi State hired Joe Moorhead, a Bulldogs fan posted a message board rumor that belongs in the Hall of Fame of message board rumors.

A user, imissplatinumplus, claimed to know Moorhead was the choice by way of an Uber drive and a stripper at the local “Cheetah Lounge” in Atlanta.

Note the time stamp of 4:47 p.m. — that’s hours before news broke of Mississippi State’s hire.

Whether you believe the sourcing was legit or just a good guess with quality storytelling, this kind of fan engagement is what makes college football great.

https://www.seccountry.com/mississippi-state/mississippi-state-fans-intel-strip-club-accurately-predicts-joe-moorhead-hiring
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Joker on December 01, 2017, 09:53:04 AM
That is fantastic.

Moorhead and the Cheetah Lounge.   :lol:
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Cire on December 01, 2017, 10:17:04 AM
Twitter saying currie gone
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: MakeItRain on December 01, 2017, 10:26:56 AM
Twitter saying currie gone

Not true
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Trim on December 01, 2017, 10:48:18 AM
Holy crap, all of this, but especially starting at 2:34.

Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: michigancat on December 01, 2017, 11:00:18 AM
lol holy crap
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: MakeItRain on December 01, 2017, 11:22:59 AM
WTF? These university presidents are extra. I'm sure the coach and the AD were both wanting that dude to stfu.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: pissclams on December 01, 2017, 01:26:35 PM
beaver nation
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: resident LibBot dick holder on December 01, 2017, 01:28:45 PM
A pelt taker like yourself would love it
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: mhkpasa on December 01, 2017, 01:43:25 PM
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 01, 2017, 01:54:24 PM
Being the former voice of #BeaverNation (Scott City), I totally agree with everything he had to say. You don't walk into our house and not expect a butt kicking.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: michigancat on December 01, 2017, 01:58:19 PM
lol @ also parking a rzr in a cul-de-sac driveway
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: michigancat on December 01, 2017, 02:03:11 PM
and wow aTm really got Jimbo
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: manpow5 on December 01, 2017, 02:05:32 PM
Jimbo got 10 years and 75 million. Biggest contract in CFB history.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Brock Landers on December 01, 2017, 02:26:59 PM
I'll be surprised and slightly disappointed if A&M doesn't list Jimbo's national championship on their stadium.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: jar on December 01, 2017, 02:42:52 PM
I'll be surprised and slightly disappointed if A&M doesn't list Jimbo's national championship on their stadium.

(https://i.imgur.com/0JP9Tsv.jpg)
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Brock Landers on December 01, 2017, 02:58:35 PM
 :D
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Chingon on December 01, 2017, 03:08:58 PM
Well Jimbo found one of the few places whose self-worth is more tightly bound to winning college football games than Tallahassee.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Whisker Biscuit on December 01, 2017, 03:31:51 PM
lol @ also parking a rzr   General in a cul-de-sac driveway

FYP
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Reggie Singlegur on December 01, 2017, 04:18:38 PM
lol @ also parking a rzr   General in a cul-de-sac driveway

FYP

That's alright, the guy next door has a porta-poty in his driveway
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: michigancat on December 01, 2017, 04:19:51 PM
lol @ also parking a rzr   General in a cul-de-sac driveway

FYP

That's alright, the guy next door has a porta-poty in his driveway

well yeah they're remodeling
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: everyone shut up on December 01, 2017, 05:31:03 PM
Couldn't we claim a NC from the 1900's or something silly? I hope Mustang puts it up on BSFS.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Shooter Jones on December 01, 2017, 05:40:27 PM
Couldn't we claim a NC from the 1900's or something silly? I hope Mustang puts it up on BSFS.

1910: 10-1 record, only loss was to an undefeated Colorado College team in Colorado Springs in an exhibition game.

Season highlights: The Cats posted a blowout win of 5-0 at 7-1 Arkansas, who beat 8-1 Texas A&M.

CLAIM THIS NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP NOW.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: IPA4Me on December 01, 2017, 05:51:55 PM
Hang that banner!
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: everyone shut up on December 01, 2017, 05:59:16 PM
Outscored our opponents 336 to 28
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on December 01, 2017, 06:33:55 PM
Jonathan is a proven winner and of you want proof you need only look back at something he did in a game almost 17 years ago.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: WildcatNkilt on December 01, 2017, 09:45:35 PM
I have nothing against Jimbo, but I hope A&M is atrocious and that contract turns out to be the biggest disappointment in the history of CFB. 
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: catastrophe on December 01, 2017, 10:50:35 PM
Couldn't we claim a NC from the 1900's or something silly? I hope Mustang puts it up on BSFS.

1910: 10-1 record, only loss was to an undefeated Colorado College team in Colorado Springs in an exhibition game.

Season highlights: The Cats posted a blowout win of 5-0 at 7-1 Arkansas, who beat 8-1 Texas A&M.

CLAIM THIS NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP NOW.

If true (and I don't know cause no one case about what happened before like 1980) I am pissed that we do not claim this national championship.  We need to start a petition.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: MakeItRain on December 02, 2017, 12:08:55 AM
I have nothing against Jimbo, but I hope A&M is atrocious and that contract turns out to be the biggest disappointment in the history of CFB.

I don't know how in the hell it won't. They are in the easier division but they share it with the greatest college football coach of all time. They also share a region where they'll always be behind UT for Texas recruits and LSU for Louisiana recruits. He's also gotta deal with Malzahn at either Auburn or Arkansas and you can make the argument that for the sake of A&M success, they definitely don't want Malzahn at Arkansas.

It's a cash grab for Jimbo, I don't see two SEC championship game appearances in the course of this contract.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: wetwillie on December 02, 2017, 07:02:43 AM
No way he takes the program to higher heights than the the Kevin Sumlin era
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: everyone shut up on December 02, 2017, 07:04:29 AM
The name Jimbo really irritates me
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Pete on December 02, 2017, 07:45:28 AM
I have nothing against Jimbo, but I hope A&M is atrocious and that contract turns out to be the biggest disappointment in the history of CFB.

I don't know how in the hell it won't. They are in the easier division but they share it with the greatest college football coach of all time. They also share a region where they'll always be behind UT for Texas recruits and LSU for Louisiana recruits. He's also gotta deal with Malzahn at either Auburn or Arkansas and you can make the argument that for the sake of A&M success, they definitely don't want Malzahn at Arkansas.

It's a cash grab for Jimbo, I don't see two SEC championship game appearances in the course of this contract.


I totally agree.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Joker on December 02, 2017, 08:47:47 AM
My new dream scenario now that Jimbo joined the cult.


Willie T goes back home to FSU.

The Bank of Phillip H. Knight makes Frost an offer he can't refuse.

Cornhole U, stood up by its high school flame, remains irrelevant for years to come.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Shooter Jones on December 02, 2017, 08:51:27 AM
Couldn't we claim a NC from the 1900's or something silly? I hope Mustang puts it up on BSFS.

1910: 10-1 record, only loss was to an undefeated Colorado College team in Colorado Springs in an exhibition game.

Season highlights: The Cats posted a blowout win of 5-0 at 7-1 Arkansas, who beat 8-1 Texas A&M.

CLAIM THIS NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP NOW.

If true (and I don't know cause no one case about what happened before like 1980) I am pissed that we do not claim this national championship.  We need to start a petition.

Feels like the right time too. Bring up this program was once a national champion and all Bill has done is lose big games, no Natty’s. GTFO old man.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Pete on December 02, 2017, 09:57:45 AM
My new dream scenario now that Jimbo joined the cult.


Willie T goes back home to FSU.

The Bank of Phillip H. Knight makes Frost an offer he can't refuse.

Cornhole U, stood up by its high school flame, remains irrelevant for years to come.


Oh man
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: BMWWcat on December 02, 2017, 10:50:52 AM
Jimbo has to play Bama, LSU, Auburn every year...and if arky gets them a coach look out.  Good for him on the $75 million though. :kstategrad:
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: O-town Kat on December 02, 2017, 10:53:54 AM
My new dream scenario now that Jimbo joined the cult.


Willie T goes back home to FSU.

The Bank of Phillip H. Knight makes Frost an offer he can't refuse.

Cornhole U, stood up by its high school flame, remains irrelevant for years to come.


Oh man
Yeah this
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: michigancat on December 02, 2017, 11:04:20 AM
Jimbo has to play Bama, LSU, Auburn every year...and if arky gets them a coach look out.  Good for him on the $75 million though. :kstategrad:

Everyone but Bama and Auburn has replaced their coach in the last year. Bama will always be great but Auburn definitely has ups and downs. Auburn was 11-13 in the SEC the three years prior to this one.

What I'm saying is the might of the SEC West is just an illusion mostly based on Bama being amazing. It's not significantly more difficult from playing in the Big 12 with an elite OU.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Joker on December 02, 2017, 01:04:48 PM
Will only make the dream sweeter.

Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: pissclams on December 02, 2017, 01:34:06 PM
they will be pleased

lol
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Reggie Singlegur on December 02, 2017, 01:38:50 PM
they will be pleased

lol

Rumor has it Matt Davidson will move from broadcast booth to WR coach. Not sure I would be pleased if we made Stan the QB coach.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Joker on December 02, 2017, 02:32:20 PM
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: manpow5 on December 02, 2017, 03:17:18 PM
I feel we need to be following the dumpster fore at Arkansas more
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: scottwildcat on December 02, 2017, 03:21:04 PM
I feel we need to be following the dumpster fore at Arkansas more
aren’t they hoping to get Gus?
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: wetwillie on December 02, 2017, 03:22:50 PM
my gut tells me he will get them back to where bo had them, but i think they have put themselves at such a strategic disadvantage in the big 10 that he'll never be able to take them over the top.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Katpappy on December 02, 2017, 03:32:03 PM
They'll play in the CCG a time or two before he leaves.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: MakeItRain on December 02, 2017, 04:02:48 PM
I feel we need to be following the dumpster fore at Arkansas more
aren’t they hoping to get Gus?

Yes, everything I've seen has them waiting to start their search in earnest, tomorrow.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: IPA4Me on December 02, 2017, 04:20:54 PM
Where's the money on UT hire now?
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: ChiCat on December 02, 2017, 05:51:00 PM
I really like Scott Frost but now have to hope he loses every game by a billion
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: wetwillie on December 02, 2017, 06:04:49 PM
I feel like an Auburn coaching search might rival the UT search in entertainment value
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Pete on December 02, 2017, 06:05:00 PM
Yep
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Joker on December 02, 2017, 06:23:11 PM
I feel like an Auburn coaching search might rival the UT search in entertainment value

Do they have a chickenshit AD?
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: ChiCat on December 02, 2017, 06:57:29 PM
Why does Arkansas think they can get Malzahn? I would’ve thought Auburn is a better job. Is it largely a job security thing since some were putting him on the hot seat earlier in the season?
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Pete on December 02, 2017, 06:58:54 PM
Why does Arkansas think they can get Malzahn? I would’ve thought Auburn is a better job. Is it largely a job security thing since some were putting him on the hot seat earlier in the season?


Auburn is a tough job because of Saban. 
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Pete on December 02, 2017, 06:59:37 PM
Any school that has a rivalry game that defines the season is a tough gig.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Joker on December 02, 2017, 07:22:22 PM
Any school that has a rivalry game that defines the season is a tough gig.

Harbaugh would agree.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Joker on December 03, 2017, 05:08:24 PM
I feel like an Auburn coaching search might rival the UT search in entertainment value


Welp.

Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Skipper44 on December 03, 2017, 08:42:34 PM
Good, we don't need Gus 4 hours from the metroplex
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Joker on December 04, 2017, 10:19:36 AM
Rumblings.


Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: michigancat on December 04, 2017, 11:25:22 AM
Rumblings.



 :don'tcare:
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Shooter Jones on December 04, 2017, 11:47:59 AM
I'm sure Leavitt would get another raise to follow him to FSU. But could make things interesting at least.

Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Joker on December 04, 2017, 11:55:30 AM
I'm sure Leavitt would get another raise to follow him to FSU. But could make things interesting at least.



Would Oregon consider Leavitt for HC?
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Skipper44 on December 04, 2017, 12:11:53 PM
Oregon would have to strike out on at least a couple guys before they would consider Leavitt - my prediction is they get an up and comer OC and try to keep Leavitt and his defensive staff together if there isn't a homerun hire.  Maybe a Sonny Cumbie type? 

Lane would fit pretty good there as well and Leavitt might stay - Lane strikes me as a guy that lets his DC do what he wants.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Shooter Jones on December 04, 2017, 12:17:32 PM

EDIT:

Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Skipper44 on December 04, 2017, 12:20:52 PM
I know the ageists on this board don't want him but sign me up for Leavitt after he spends the next 12 months running around FL in garnet and gold
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: catastrophe on December 04, 2017, 12:50:29 PM
The real question is whether there will be another K-State clause.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: kso_FAN on December 04, 2017, 01:35:38 PM
:lol:

Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: catastrophe on December 04, 2017, 01:42:17 PM
:lol:
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Joker on December 04, 2017, 01:43:26 PM
If nothing else, Herm will be entertaining.



Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Yard Dog on December 04, 2017, 02:02:41 PM
The name Jimbo really irritates me
 

I would argue that Gus is also very irritating.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Dlew12 on December 04, 2017, 02:08:26 PM
Dabo
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: chum1 on December 04, 2017, 02:09:46 PM
Quote
Arizona State University and Vice President of University Athletics Ray Anderson has unveiled plans for a restructured ASU football model and named former NFL head coach Herman Edwards as the 24th head coach of Sun Devil Football, pending approval by the Arizona Board of Regents.

The department's New Leadership Model will be similar to an NFL approach using a general manager structure. It's a collaborative approach to managing the ASU football program that includes sport and administrative divisions, which will operate as distinct, but collective units focused on elevating all aspects of Sun Devil Football. This structure will allow the department to form a multi-layered method to the talent evaluation and recruiting processes, increase its emphasis on both student-athlete and coach development and retention, and provide a boost in resource allocation and generation.

"Our goal for this football program is to reach unprecedented heights, and therefore we need to find a way to operate more innovatively and efficiently than we have in the past," Anderson said. "In the spirit of innovation, our vision for this program is to have a head coach who serves as a CEO and is the central leader with a collaborative staff around him that will elevate the performance of players and coaches on the field, in the classroom and in our community. Equally important, the head coach will be a dynamic and tireless recruiter."

Edwards, who will oversee the New Leadership Model, arrives in Tempe with a football legacy that has impacted thousands, whether as a player, coach, analyst, motivational speaker and author, or community advocate and philanthropist.

The New Leadership Model will allow for resource sharing and strategic planning between the football staff and administrators who are directly involved with the program. The administrative division will be primarily composed of Anderson, Executive Senior Associate Athletics Director Jean Boyd and Senior Associate Athletics Director Scottie Graham. The sport division will operate with an experienced and senior football administrator, Senior Associate Athletic Director Tim Cassidy, helping to manage day-to-day operations, along with a variety of staffers responsible for player development, player personnel, and recruiting, among other areas.

Sun Devil Football's existing recruiting infrastructure will be upgraded through additional staff support and evaluation resources, by instilling a culture of accountability at all levels, and building long-term relationships in communities across the country to help ensure recruiting quality and consistency. Both the sport and administrative divisions will play key roles in student-athlete development.

The New Leadership Model affords coordinators and assistant coaches more flexibility in how they develop student-athletes on the field, and enables Sun Devil Football to build on the 'Championship Life' program already in place through the Office of Student-Athlete Development to better equip student-athletes with the tools and skills necessary to succeed in their respective future endeavors.

Boyd is a former ASU football student-athlete who has risen to the role of Executive Senior Associate Athletic Director after 22-plus years of experience in Sun Devil Athletics. He has overseen the dramatic evolution of the department's Student-Athlete Development efforts and has been nationally recognized.

Graham, who joined Sun Devil Athletics in June 2014, has served as a sport administrator with additional responsibilities surrounding student-athlete development and welfare for the past three-plus years. He will transition to a new role where he will serve as the liaison between the sport and administrative divisions. He has an extensive background with the National Football League Players Association (NFLPA) as he was the Director of Player Engagement for four years before arriving in Tempe, playing a key role in cultivating, maintaining and enhancing relationships with current and former players, business partners and other stakeholders.

Edwards will take a proactive approach to developing coordinators and assistant coaches, drawing on his nearly three decades of NFL experience in a variety of capacities and wide range of leadership positions within both the sport of football and in other endeavors.

https://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2017/12/3/16732520/herm-edwards-hired-arizona-state-head-coach-announcement
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: michigancat on December 04, 2017, 02:10:37 PM
:lol:


:lol:
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: MadCat on December 04, 2017, 03:42:53 PM
 :lol: wow
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: michigancat on December 04, 2017, 04:43:02 PM
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on December 04, 2017, 04:45:27 PM
Holy crap.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: MadCat on December 04, 2017, 05:08:22 PM
Covering Herm will be a treat provided no one calls him out on everything he says.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: manpow5 on December 04, 2017, 06:06:56 PM
Covering Herm will be a treat provided no one calls him out on everything he says.

It's college football... there's a million Fitz's lining up to get their big break by writing something controversial about Herm. All we need is time. Itll probably come when ASU is 3-6 next season and some "insider info" starts to leak out.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: wetwillie on December 04, 2017, 06:35:45 PM
Is this what happens when an athletic department just says eff it?
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Pete on December 04, 2017, 08:05:21 PM
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Arizona State University and Vice President of University Athletics Ray Anderson has unveiled plans for a restructured ASU football model and named former NFL head coach Herman Edwards as the 24th head coach of Sun Devil Football, pending approval by the Arizona Board of Regents.

The department's New Leadership Model will be similar to an NFL approach using a general manager structure. It's a collaborative approach to managing the ASU football program that includes sport and administrative divisions, which will operate as distinct, but collective units focused on elevating all aspects of Sun Devil Football. This structure will allow the department to form a multi-layered method to the talent evaluation and recruiting processes, increase its emphasis on both student-athlete and coach development and retention, and provide a boost in resource allocation and generation.

"Our goal for this football program is to reach unprecedented heights, and therefore we need to find a way to operate more innovatively and efficiently than we have in the past," Anderson said. "In the spirit of innovation, our vision for this program is to have a head coach who serves as a CEO and is the central leader with a collaborative staff around him that will elevate the performance of players and coaches on the field, in the classroom and in our community. Equally important, the head coach will be a dynamic and tireless recruiter."

Edwards, who will oversee the New Leadership Model, arrives in Tempe with a football legacy that has impacted thousands, whether as a player, coach, analyst, motivational speaker and author, or community advocate and philanthropist.

The New Leadership Model will allow for resource sharing and strategic planning between the football staff and administrators who are directly involved with the program. The administrative division will be primarily composed of Anderson, Executive Senior Associate Athletics Director Jean Boyd and Senior Associate Athletics Director Scottie Graham. The sport division will operate with an experienced and senior football administrator, Senior Associate Athletic Director Tim Cassidy, helping to manage day-to-day operations, along with a variety of staffers responsible for player development, player personnel, and recruiting, among other areas.

Sun Devil Football's existing recruiting infrastructure will be upgraded through additional staff support and evaluation resources, by instilling a culture of accountability at all levels, and building long-term relationships in communities across the country to help ensure recruiting quality and consistency. Both the sport and administrative divisions will play key roles in student-athlete development.

The New Leadership Model affords coordinators and assistant coaches more flexibility in how they develop student-athletes on the field, and enables Sun Devil Football to build on the 'Championship Life' program already in place through the Office of Student-Athlete Development to better equip student-athletes with the tools and skills necessary to succeed in their respective future endeavors.

Boyd is a former ASU football student-athlete who has risen to the role of Executive Senior Associate Athletic Director after 22-plus years of experience in Sun Devil Athletics. He has overseen the dramatic evolution of the department's Student-Athlete Development efforts and has been nationally recognized.

Graham, who joined Sun Devil Athletics in June 2014, has served as a sport administrator with additional responsibilities surrounding student-athlete development and welfare for the past three-plus years. He will transition to a new role where he will serve as the liaison between the sport and administrative divisions. He has an extensive background with the National Football League Players Association (NFLPA) as he was the Director of Player Engagement for four years before arriving in Tempe, playing a key role in cultivating, maintaining and enhancing relationships with current and former players, business partners and other stakeholders.

Edwards will take a proactive approach to developing coordinators and assistant coaches, drawing on his nearly three decades of NFL experience in a variety of capacities and wide range of leadership positions within both the sport of football and in other endeavors.

https://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2017/12/3/16732520/herm-edwards-hired-arizona-state-head-coach-announcement

That is the most amazing collection of unaccountable bullshit management buzzwordsmithing that I have seen in a long time.  That thing is going to flop like a mother rough rider.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: michigancat on December 04, 2017, 08:15:15 PM
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"In the spirit of innovation, our vision for this program is to have a head coach who serves as a CEO and is the central leader with a collaborative staff around him that will elevate the performance of players and coaches on the field, in the classroom and in our community. Equally important, the head coach will be a dynamic and tireless recruiter."

I dunno, I kinda like this once you get past the buzzwordsmithing,
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: MakeItRain on December 04, 2017, 09:07:42 PM
Sounds like they intend to run it with a business model, but I don't think all of those words distinguished that model much differently that what everyone else does. They want the head coach on the road recruiting more, can't find another difference.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: muqluk on December 04, 2017, 09:31:41 PM
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"In the spirit of innovation, our vision for this program is to have a head coach who serves as a CEO and is the central leader with a collaborative staff around him that will elevate the performance of players and coaches on the field, in the classroom and in our community. Equally important, the head coach will be a dynamic and tireless recruiter."

I dunno, I kinda like this once you get past the buzzwordsmithing,

So I guess they want ... a head coach?  Because once you chisel off all the glamour-shots make up and hair extensions that's pretty much the only thing they said.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: michigancat on December 05, 2017, 08:35:00 AM
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"In the spirit of innovation, our vision for this program is to have a head coach who serves as a CEO and is the central leader with a collaborative staff around him that will elevate the performance of players and coaches on the field, in the classroom and in our community. Equally important, the head coach will be a dynamic and tireless recruiter."

I dunno, I kinda like this once you get past the buzzwordsmithing,

So I guess they want ... a head coach?  Because once you chisel off all the glamour-shots make up and hair extensions that's pretty much the only thing they said.
Yes but refer to the discussions about Sean never being a coordinator in one of the many thread about him - people tend to not think about a head coach this way. To me, it's interesting that they openly admit they just want a coach to be a CEO and recruiter and don't mention his technical credentials at all. And really, schools wordsmith the hell out of their releases, too, to make whatever stats they use sound right.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: sonofdaxjones on December 05, 2017, 08:48:55 AM
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"In the spirit of innovation, our vision for this program is to have a head coach who serves as a CEO and is the central leader with a collaborative staff around him that will elevate the performance of players and coaches on the field, in the classroom and in our community. Equally important, the head coach will be a dynamic and tireless recruiter."

I dunno, I kinda like this once you get past the buzzwordsmithing,

So I guess they want ... a head coach?  Because once you chisel off all the glamour-shots make up and hair extensions that's pretty much the only thing they said.
Yes but refer to the discussions about Sean never being a coordinator in one of the many thread about him - people tend to not think about a head coach this way. To me, it's interesting that they openly admit they just want a coach to be a CEO and recruiter and don't mention his technical credentials at all. And really, schools wordsmith the hell out of their releases, too, to make whatever stats they use sound right.

I personally don't think you can be an effective head coach and just be a CEO type.   Not saying Herm isn't gonna be out there engaged in practice.

But most good head coaches in this day and age, while they aren't calling all the plays or defensive sets are engaged and know WTH is going on out there.

Saban, Dabo, Smart are engaged in the granular stuff, Riley is calling the plays I believe.  Saban personally coaches the Bama DB's.



Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: michigancat on December 05, 2017, 09:16:20 AM
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"In the spirit of innovation, our vision for this program is to have a head coach who serves as a CEO and is the central leader with a collaborative staff around him that will elevate the performance of players and coaches on the field, in the classroom and in our community. Equally important, the head coach will be a dynamic and tireless recruiter."

I dunno, I kinda like this once you get past the buzzwordsmithing,

So I guess they want ... a head coach?  Because once you chisel off all the glamour-shots make up and hair extensions that's pretty much the only thing they said.
Yes but refer to the discussions about Sean never being a coordinator in one of the many thread about him - people tend to not think about a head coach this way. To me, it's interesting that they openly admit they just want a coach to be a CEO and recruiter and don't mention his technical credentials at all. And really, schools wordsmith the hell out of their releases, too, to make whatever stats they use sound right.

I personally don't think you can be an effective head coach and just be a CEO type.   Not saying Herm isn't gonna be out there engaged in practice.

But most good head coaches in this day and age, while they aren't calling all the plays or defensive sets are engaged and know WTH is going on out there.

Saban, Dabo, Smart are engaged in the granular stuff, Riley is calling the plays I believe.  Saban personally coaches the Bama DB's.





yeah I agree, it isn't like this is politics where you can just bring in a business leader who will clearly run things better than a career politician.

(no but seriously I agree w/ you. I am also guessing Herm will be engaging on the field)
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Shooter Jones on December 05, 2017, 09:25:59 AM
Sounds like Taggart to FSU will happen today.

And honestly, last week I never thought he'd be on their board, but after reading some stuff, I could see Leavitt being seriously considered for the head job at Oregon.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: wetwillie on December 05, 2017, 10:11:54 AM
It's like Butch Jones champions of life on steroids. 
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Joker on December 05, 2017, 10:42:55 AM
UCF gettin' it done.




Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Joker on December 05, 2017, 10:44:05 AM
It's like Butch Jones champions of life on steroids.

"Bane juice"
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: MakeItRain on December 05, 2017, 11:09:36 AM
UCF gettin' it done.





I'd love to hear an explanation from the Brent or bust people on this. Unless he gets Tennessee, and he won't, we will have another year where he gets passed by. I think the Mississippi State hire and this one is pretty telling. He's now been passed by Joe Moorhead and Josh Heupel, who was fired as a coordinator just three years ago. He's been lapped by Frost. This UCF job is the exact one he should have lobbied for and gotten.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Cire on December 05, 2017, 11:13:54 AM
Both Tos's say coaching changes are coming.

Will probably be Klein and Coleman leaving


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Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Trim on December 05, 2017, 11:23:23 AM
Both Tos's say coaching changes are coming.

At least some of the talk is of the “oscar to marquette” sort.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Joker on December 05, 2017, 11:27:45 AM
I'd love to hear an explanation from the Brent or bust people on this. Unless he gets Tennessee, and he won't, we will have another year where he gets passed by. I think the Mississippi State hire and this one is pretty telling. He's now been passed by Joe Moorhead and Josh Heupel, who was fired as a coordinator just three years ago. He's been lapped by Frost. This UCF job is the exact one he should have lobbied for and gotten.


Maybe he's a terrible interview?  Is he even being invited to interview?

It is odd that he hasn't secured a HC gig at this point, if he is indeed actively pursuing one.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: BackPayne on December 05, 2017, 11:40:29 AM
Both Tos's say coaching changes are coming.

Will probably be Klein and Coleman leaving


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WTF?!
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: meow meow on December 05, 2017, 11:41:26 AM
i don't have any numbers to prove it, and maybe someone wants to take the time to find out, but it seems like offensive coordinators are more likely to get hired as HC's than defensive coordinators in the last handful of years.  =mods=?
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: meow meow on December 05, 2017, 11:42:44 AM
Both Tos's say coaching changes are coming.

Will probably be Klein and Coleman leaving


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WTF?!

lol if true, they'll just go grab Michael Smith and Jake Waters.  business as usual
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Dlew12 on December 05, 2017, 11:47:59 AM
I'd love to hear an explanation from the Brent or bust people on this. Unless he gets Tennessee, and he won't, we will have another year where he gets passed by. I think the Mississippi State hire and this one is pretty telling. He's now been passed by Joe Moorhead and Josh Heupel, who was fired as a coordinator just three years ago. He's been lapped by Frost. This UCF job is the exact one he should have lobbied for and gotten.
I would assume that it's been Brent's decision not to pursue jobs like UCF. 

It took Kirby Smart a while to become a HC and he seems to be okay at it.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Joker on December 05, 2017, 12:11:14 PM
I'd love to hear an explanation from the Brent or bust people on this. Unless he gets Tennessee, and he won't, we will have another year where he gets passed by. I think the Mississippi State hire and this one is pretty telling. He's now been passed by Joe Moorhead and Josh Heupel, who was fired as a coordinator just three years ago. He's been lapped by Frost. This UCF job is the exact one he should have lobbied for and gotten.
I would assume that it's been Brent's decision not to pursue jobs like UCF. 

It took Kirby Smart a while to become a HC and he seems to be okay at it.


Should have looked for this before my last post.  According to Brent, he has had interviews/offers but turned them down.  You almost get the feeling he doesn't have a strong desire to be a HC.


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Prior the above response, Venables said: "I’ve had opportunities to be a head coach throughout my career and as recently as last week, but my moral compass has told me to be loyal to where I am."

https://247sports.com/college/clemson/Bolt/Clemson-defensive-coordinator-Brent-Venables-responds-to-a-question-about-being-a-candidate-for-the-next-Arkansas-head-coach--111741852
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Cire on December 05, 2017, 12:16:10 PM
Glad he had a change of heart after 199 rough ridin' 8


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Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: michigancat on December 05, 2017, 01:58:31 PM
I don't think anyone is a "Brent or Bust'r".
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: michigancat on December 05, 2017, 02:03:43 PM
Also it's pretty clear that KSU (or an equivalent school) is his sweet spot. Understandable to not want to take over a place like UCF after an undefeated season for a variety of reasons. Also understandable to not want to jump into the SEC West (and Moorhead is a pretty weird hire to make after three days, really). Also understandable that he doesn't get hired at a place like Tennessee or Arkansas.

He doesn't need to go to the MAC or CUSA and he doesn't need to take over a losing program if he doesn't want to.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: michigancat on December 05, 2017, 02:05:40 PM
Also it's pretty clear that KSU (or an equivalent school) is his sweet spot. Understandable to not want to take over a place like UCF after an undefeated season for a variety of reasons. Also understandable to not want to jump into the SEC West (and Moorhead is a pretty weird hire to make after three days, really). Also understandable that he doesn't get hired at a place like Tennessee or Arkansas.

He doesn't need to go to the MAC or CUSA and he doesn't need to take over a losing program if he doesn't want to.


also it's possible he's completely untouchable as a head coach. Seems pretty unlikely/illogical that he could have untouchable issues and successfully hold down a million dollar+/year job coaching football yet be completely unacceptable as a head coach at UCF.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Joker on December 05, 2017, 02:13:14 PM
Also it's pretty clear that KSU (or an equivalent school) is his sweet spot. Understandable to not want to take over a place like UCF after an undefeated season for a variety of reasons. Also understandable to not want to jump into the SEC West (and Moorhead is a pretty weird hire to make after three days, really). Also understandable that he doesn't get hired at a place like Tennessee or Arkansas.

He doesn't need to go to the MAC or CUSA and he doesn't need to take over a losing program if he doesn't want to.

I think that sums it up pretty well.  He's being very selective and obviously enjoys his role as DC very much.

Here's another quote from an interview last year.


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"I think he'd be a great head coach," Dabo Swinney said. "I know he's had opportunities to be head coach. I just don't think the right opportunity has come along that he's wanted for whatever reason."


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"I really believe that my job is better than a majority of head coaching jobs that are out there ...," Venables said during the College Football Playoff. "There are not many places where you can have it all. I believe that I have been at a few places I have had it all, and I don't want to let it go."

https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/brent-venables-is-overqualified-so-why-isnt-clemsons-defensive-boss-a-head-coach/
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: catastrophe on December 05, 2017, 03:06:24 PM
Venables is wise beyond his years IMO. Most people could use the same kind of clarity with their careers. I have no doubt Venables would be offered and would take a HC job if he felt he had all the resources he needed AND would not get forced out by year 3 or 5 if he’s not winning 10 games or conference championships. It makes complete sense not to want to leave a $1 million+ per year job where you’re doing what you love without the bureaucratic BS and constant scrutiny.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Shooter Jones on December 05, 2017, 03:15:47 PM
Could be an interesting domino effect that could involve K-State if Jimbo Fisher is pushed out/leaves FSU.
How do you think?

Jimbo moves on, Taggart leaves Oregon for FSU (he and Strong (lol) rumored to be top candidates), Oregon brings in new coach/staff, Leavitt unemployed?

Definitely a reach, but sounds like Jimbo leaving Tally sounds pretty likely at least.

Welp, first few parts have now developed. Sounds like Leavitt will get a hard look as HC at Oregon or follow Taggart to FSU, though.

Could still be interesting.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: MakeItRain on December 05, 2017, 03:22:24 PM
Venables is wise beyond his years IMO. Most people could use the same kind of clarity with their careers. I have no doubt Venables would be offered and would take a HC job if he felt he had all the resources he needed AND would not get forced out by year 3 or 5 if he’s not winning 10 games or conference championships. It makes complete sense not to want to leave a $1 million+ per year job where you’re doing what you love without the bureaucratic BS and constant scrutiny.

It would be easier for him to get this if he took a job like UCF. If, in fact, Venables wants to be a head coach, he should look at someone like Scott Frost and Willie Taggart as to how to build a career. Both of those guys were playing when Brent was coaching, they took coordinator positions, turned them into very good group of 5 jobs, did well with them to get great, high paying P5 jobs. These guys went from the field to jobs at Nebraska and Florida State while Brent has been a defensive coordinator.

An argument made frequently against Sean is that he shouldn't get the K-State job if it's the only one he can get. That's a fair criticism but it should be equally applied. I'm sorry but it appears as if K-State is the absolute ceiling of job that Brent is getting and I view his unwillingness to take a job ready made for success, like UCF, a giant red flag.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on December 05, 2017, 03:24:15 PM
Venables is wise beyond his years IMO. Most people could use the same kind of clarity with their careers. I have no doubt Venables would be offered and would take a HC job if he felt he had all the resources he needed AND would not get forced out by year 3 or 5 if he’s not winning 10 games or conference championships. It makes complete sense not to want to leave a $1 million+ per year job where you’re doing what you love without the bureaucratic BS and constant scrutiny.
Yep, it is rich from any message board to say cordinators don’t get scrutinized and have longevity. In fact the best longevity coaches receive are buyout terms in a contract and the coaches with the best terms are head coaches. I would also say taking a job like UCF or FAU would have less pressure than high end cordinator spot. But I can’t say for certain but I assume fans at Clemson have higher expectations.

I am not sure why Venables hasn’t taken another job. He is going to flirt every year in hopes to get more money out of clemson, but as of now his actions speak louder than words. He really doesn’t seem to want a head job.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: MakeItRain on December 05, 2017, 03:26:54 PM
Could be an interesting domino effect that could involve K-State if Jimbo Fisher is pushed out/leaves FSU.
How do you think?

Jimbo moves on, Taggart leaves Oregon for FSU (he and Strong (lol) rumored to be top candidates), Oregon brings in new coach/staff, Leavitt unemployed?

Definitely a reach, but sounds like Jimbo leaving Tally sounds pretty likely at least.

Welp, first few parts have now developed. Sounds like Leavitt will get a hard look as HC at Oregon or follow Taggart to FSU, though.

Could still be interesting.

If he goes to FSU with Taggart, I don't see that athletic department agreeing to that K-State clause. It seems very odd that clause is even needed for an assistant coach on the first place.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: michigancat on December 05, 2017, 03:28:17 PM
Venables is wise beyond his years IMO. Most people could use the same kind of clarity with their careers. I have no doubt Venables would be offered and would take a HC job if he felt he had all the resources he needed AND would not get forced out by year 3 or 5 if he’s not winning 10 games or conference championships. It makes complete sense not to want to leave a $1 million+ per year job where you’re doing what you love without the bureaucratic BS and constant scrutiny.

It would be easier for him to get this if he took a job like UCF. If, in fact, Venables wants to be a head coach, he should look at someone like Scott Frost and Willie Taggart as to how to build a career. Both of those guys were playing when Brent was coaching, they took coordinator positions, turned them into very good group of 5 jobs, did well with them to get great, high paying P5 jobs. These guys went from the field to jobs at Nebraska and Florida State while Brent has been a defensive coordinator.

An argument made frequently against Sean is that he shouldn't get the K-State job if it's the only one he can get. That's a fair criticism but it should be equally applied. I'm sorry but it appears as if K-State is the absolute ceiling of job that Brent is getting and I view his unwillingness to take a job ready made for success, like UCF, a giant red flag.

good points, but do you really believe Venables couldn't get a job like USF or UCF or Toledo or Akron? (I realize those 4 jobs aren't equal). Is anyone asking Sean if he's a candidate at Arkansas?
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: DOD Take 2 on December 05, 2017, 03:32:05 PM
Venables is wise beyond his years IMO. Most people could use the same kind of clarity with their careers. I have no doubt Venables would be offered and would take a HC job if he felt he had all the resources he needed AND would not get forced out by year 3 or 5 if he’s not winning 10 games or conference championships. It makes complete sense not to want to leave a $1 million+ per year job where you’re doing what you love without the bureaucratic BS and constant scrutiny.

It would be easier for him to get this if he took a job like UCF. If, in fact, Venables wants to be a head coach, he should look at someone like Scott Frost and Willie Taggart as to how to build a career. Both of those guys were playing when Brent was coaching, they took coordinator positions, turned them into very good group of 5 jobs, did well with them to get great, high paying P5 jobs. These guys went from the field to jobs at Nebraska and Florida State while Brent has been a defensive coordinator.

An argument made frequently against Sean is that he shouldn't get the K-State job if it's the only one he can get. That's a fair criticism but it should be equally applied. I'm sorry but it appears as if K-State is the absolute ceiling of job that Brent is getting and I view his unwillingness to take a job ready made for success, like UCF, a giant red flag.

He has been offered and asked to interview for plenty of other jobs we’d consider at our level or just above. Multiple ways to build careers. Kirby Smart went a similar route and seems to be doing well through year 2. I don’t feel it was Brent’s major goal to climb in the profession. I think he just truly enjoys what he does. Remember the story about Snyder lowballing him and Stoops wanting to go talk to Bill? Or about Bob having to take him to the airport?
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: michigancat on December 05, 2017, 03:34:36 PM
Venables is wise beyond his years IMO. Most people could use the same kind of clarity with their careers. I have no doubt Venables would be offered and would take a HC job if he felt he had all the resources he needed AND would not get forced out by year 3 or 5 if he’s not winning 10 games or conference championships. It makes complete sense not to want to leave a $1 million+ per year job where you’re doing what you love without the bureaucratic BS and constant scrutiny.

It would be easier for him to get this if he took a job like UCF. If, in fact, Venables wants to be a head coach, he should look at someone like Scott Frost and Willie Taggart as to how to build a career. Both of those guys were playing when Brent was coaching, they took coordinator positions, turned them into very good group of 5 jobs, did well with them to get great, high paying P5 jobs. These guys went from the field to jobs at Nebraska and Florida State while Brent has been a defensive coordinator.

An argument made frequently against Sean is that he shouldn't get the K-State job if it's the only one he can get. That's a fair criticism but it should be equally applied. I'm sorry but it appears as if K-State is the absolute ceiling of job that Brent is getting and I view his unwillingness to take a job ready made for success, like UCF, a giant red flag.

He has been offered and asked to interview for plenty of other jobs we’d consider at our level or just above. Multiple ways to build careers. Kirby Smart went a similar route and seems to be doing well through year 2. I don’t feel it was Brent’s major goal to climb in the profession. I think he just truly enjoys what he does. Remember the story about Snyder lowballing him and Stoops wanting to go talk to Bill? Or about Bob having to take him to the airport?

I don't know those stories plz share
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Joker on December 05, 2017, 03:38:56 PM
I think it boils down to a need for stability and comfort.  Not a big risk taker.

More on his thoughts about coaching....


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“What fulfills you brings you confidence or trust, loyalty, appreciation or when you feel you have credibility,” Venables explained. “Then you have to start completely over, and you really don’t understand it until you are in the middle of it. It’s not like you can just say, ‘I’m just going to pack my trust suitcase, my reliability suitcase and my years of experience suitcase. I’m a people person so I’m going to mesh with everybody.’

“It takes time to develop relationships, and it takes time to develop trust. It takes time to develop credibility. You don’t have those national championships that you coached. You don’t have those All-Americans that you coached and all the years of the tremendous success that you were a part of. You don’t bring that with you.”


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“Coaching can be a vicious and nasty cycle,” he said. “The way I looked at it, now you have to move and change jobs every three or four years, or you are going to be chasing a job. I never wanted to be one of those coaches that were a vagabond coach living out of a suitcase and trying to go from this contract to that contract and did not have a place to call home or a place to call family.

“So I felt maybe people did not understand what my intentions were. I did not come to Clemson so I could get a head job because for some reason I could not parlay a head coaching job from where I was. That couldn’t be further from the truth. You don’t know me. Nobody asked me if that is what I thought.”


http://theclemsoninsider.com/2017/08/01/there-is-a-reason-why-venables-likes-to-call-clemson-home/
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: DOD Take 2 on December 05, 2017, 03:41:25 PM
Theres an article somewhere that mentions them but from what I remember they went like this:

Bill hired Brent as a lowly assistant and paid him some dogshit amount. Bob heard what the amount was and knew it was crap and told Brent he was going to talk with Bill. Brent begged him not to and said something to the effect of “you’re screwing this up for me”. Basically he didn’t care what he made he just wanted the job.

The other is about Bob having to convince him to go interview for the Clemson job after he brought Mike back. If I recall correctly it was something about Stoops having to drive him to the airport and convince him to get on the plane otherwise he never would’ve left OU.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on December 05, 2017, 03:42:31 PM
Could be an interesting domino effect that could involve K-State if Jimbo Fisher is pushed out/leaves FSU.
How do you think?

Jimbo moves on, Taggart leaves Oregon for FSU (he and Strong (lol) rumored to be top candidates), Oregon brings in new coach/staff, Leavitt unemployed?

Definitely a reach, but sounds like Jimbo leaving Tally sounds pretty likely at least.

Welp, first few parts have now developed. Sounds like Leavitt will get a hard look as HC at Oregon or follow Taggart to FSU, though.

Could still be interesting.

If he goes to FSU with Taggart, I don't see that athletic department agreeing to that K-State clause. It seems very odd that clause is even needed for an assistant coach on the first place.

Isn’t a buyout for an assistant coach to move up to head coach weird to start off with?
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Joker on December 05, 2017, 03:58:51 PM
The other is about Bob having to convince him to go interview for the Clemson job after he brought Mike back. If I recall correctly it was something about Stoops having to drive him to the airport and convince him to get on the plane otherwise he never would’ve left OU.


Bob must have had a change of heart.


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“There was a lot of finality in closing that chapter,” Venables said. “It was hard. It was hurtful. It was very hard. It was almost why I did not do it. I’m almost here. I’m in Atlanta and Coach Stoops and I are on the phone texting. He is saying, ‘Come on back. Let’s go!’ That was really, really hard.”

http://theclemsoninsider.com/2017/08/01/there-is-a-reason-why-venables-likes-to-call-clemson-home/
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: michigancat on December 05, 2017, 04:08:00 PM
The other is about Bob having to convince him to go interview for the Clemson job after he brought Mike back. If I recall correctly it was something about Stoops having to drive him to the airport and convince him to get on the plane otherwise he never would’ve left OU.


Bob must have had a change of heart.


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“There was a lot of finality in closing that chapter,” Venables said. “It was hard. It was hurtful. It was very hard. It was almost why I did not do it. I’m almost here. I’m in Atlanta and Coach Stoops and I are on the phone texting. He is saying, ‘Come on back. Let’s go!’ That was really, really hard.”

http://theclemsoninsider.com/2017/08/01/there-is-a-reason-why-venables-likes-to-call-clemson-home/

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At Clemson, though the future looked bright, there were a lot of unknowns at the time. The Tigers were coming off their first ACC Championship in 20 years, but they were embarrassed in the Orange Bowl, 70-33, by West Virginia, which led to Dabo Swinney letting then-defensive coordinator Kevin Steele go, which ultimately led to Venables’ hire.

lol @ kevin steele being mentioned in the UT search. (I remember baylor too)
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Joker on December 05, 2017, 04:12:11 PM
Lots of great interviews out there.  The '98 CCG left a mark.


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Venables interviewed for a job at Oklahoma the week leading up to the game, and the Wildcats ended up blowing a 15-point fourth quarter lead and losing in double overtime.

“Everybody goes, ‘Oh, they were distracted,’ ” Venables recalled. “And I hadn’t decided yet if I was going to leave Kansas State to go to Oklahoma. ... But my name and that time of my career has always been tied to that loss. It might’ve been the most devastating loss that I’ve been a part of because, had we won, we’re playing in the national championship probably against Tennessee. And I just did not like that association.”

A couple of years later when Venables was at Oklahoma, he had an opportunity to interview for the Missouri head coaching job as the Sooners were preparing to play for the Big 12 title, but he opted not to after the experience at Kansas State. He added that he has maintained that philosophy throughout his coaching career since the Wildcats lost the Big 12 title in 1998.

“I was like, ‘You know what, I just told myself don’t ever put yourself back in this position,’ and so I called him and said, ‘You know what, I can’t do it,’ ” Venables said of the Missouri job. “So we’ve had some opportunities. ... Even last week. And just my moral compass said be loyal to coach (Dabo) Swinney and Clemson and the people at Clemson that have been so good to me. So it’s not easy to juggle, and there’s probably no right or wrong answer, but that’s kind of how I’ve always handled the situation.”


http://www.thestate.com/sports/college/acc/clemson-university/article188102954.html
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: MakeItRain on December 05, 2017, 04:12:42 PM
Venables is wise beyond his years IMO. Most people could use the same kind of clarity with their careers. I have no doubt Venables would be offered and would take a HC job if he felt he had all the resources he needed AND would not get forced out by year 3 or 5 if he’s not winning 10 games or conference championships. It makes complete sense not to want to leave a $1 million+ per year job where you’re doing what you love without the bureaucratic BS and constant scrutiny.

It would be easier for him to get this if he took a job like UCF. If, in fact, Venables wants to be a head coach, he should look at someone like Scott Frost and Willie Taggart as to how to build a career. Both of those guys were playing when Brent was coaching, they took coordinator positions, turned them into very good group of 5 jobs, did well with them to get great, high paying P5 jobs. These guys went from the field to jobs at Nebraska and Florida State while Brent has been a defensive coordinator.

An argument made frequently against Sean is that he shouldn't get the K-State job if it's the only one he can get. That's a fair criticism but it should be equally applied. I'm sorry but it appears as if K-State is the absolute ceiling of job that Brent is getting and I view his unwillingness to take a job ready made for success, like UCF, a giant red flag.

good points, but do you really believe Venables couldn't get a job like USF or UCF or Toledo or Akron? (I realize those 4 jobs aren't equal). Is anyone asking Sean if he's a candidate at Arkansas?

No no, I think he can, that's the issue for me. He can't get an offer at a decent P5 but he won't take a good group of 5 job. He's been a coordinator for 20 seasons, it's quite clear his shortest path to getting a good P5 job is having one damn decent season at a group of 5. I'm okay with him getting the K-State job, because like I have said we're getting someone with warts regardless. It's just interesting to me that K-Staters are competent okay with his either:
1. Inability to get an equivalent job
2. Lack of motivation to be a head coach
3. Unwillingness to show he's capable of overcoming his perceived shortcomings by taking a decent job.
The rationalization is fascinating to me, that's all.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: pissclams on December 05, 2017, 04:15:54 PM
wait, venables should look at frost as a blueprint on how to build a career?  come the eff on, son.  frost is still an unknown and it's yet to be seen how it plays out now that he's in lincoln.
i'd take TBV's career over frost's
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: michigancat on December 05, 2017, 04:20:05 PM
Venables is wise beyond his years IMO. Most people could use the same kind of clarity with their careers. I have no doubt Venables would be offered and would take a HC job if he felt he had all the resources he needed AND would not get forced out by year 3 or 5 if he’s not winning 10 games or conference championships. It makes complete sense not to want to leave a $1 million+ per year job where you’re doing what you love without the bureaucratic BS and constant scrutiny.

It would be easier for him to get this if he took a job like UCF. If, in fact, Venables wants to be a head coach, he should look at someone like Scott Frost and Willie Taggart as to how to build a career. Both of those guys were playing when Brent was coaching, they took coordinator positions, turned them into very good group of 5 jobs, did well with them to get great, high paying P5 jobs. These guys went from the field to jobs at Nebraska and Florida State while Brent has been a defensive coordinator.

An argument made frequently against Sean is that he shouldn't get the K-State job if it's the only one he can get. That's a fair criticism but it should be equally applied. I'm sorry but it appears as if K-State is the absolute ceiling of job that Brent is getting and I view his unwillingness to take a job ready made for success, like UCF, a giant red flag.

good points, but do you really believe Venables couldn't get a job like USF or UCF or Toledo or Akron? (I realize those 4 jobs aren't equal). Is anyone asking Sean if he's a candidate at Arkansas?

No no, I think he can, that's the issue for me. He can't get an offer at a decent P5 but he won't take a good group of 5 job. He's been a coordinator for 20 seasons, it's quite clear his shortest path to getting a good P5 job is having one damn decent season at a group of 5. I'm okay with him getting the K-State job, because like I have said we're getting someone with warts regardless. It's just interesting to me that K-Staters are competent okay with his either:
1. Inability to get an equivalent job
2. Lack of motivation to be a head coach
3. Unwillingness to show he's capable of overcoming his perceived shortcomings by taking a decent job.
The rationalization is fascinating to me, that's all.

I think his easiest (not shortest) path to a "decent" P5 is waiting out Bill. Same as Sean!

And I think the fact that he's now the highest paid assistant makes his situation pretty unique - he won't make more money at a G6 school, but he'll be taking a lot of risk. And I get why his aversion to that risk is sort of a red flag.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: catastrophe on December 05, 2017, 04:44:08 PM
Venables is wise beyond his years IMO. Most people could use the same kind of clarity with their careers. I have no doubt Venables would be offered and would take a HC job if he felt he had all the resources he needed AND would not get forced out by year 3 or 5 if he’s not winning 10 games or conference championships. It makes complete sense not to want to leave a $1 million+ per year job where you’re doing what you love without the bureaucratic BS and constant scrutiny.

It would be easier for him to get this if he took a job like UCF. If, in fact, Venables wants to be a head coach, he should look at someone like Scott Frost and Willie Taggart as to how to build a career. Both of those guys were playing when Brent was coaching, they took coordinator positions, turned them into very good group of 5 jobs, did well with them to get great, high paying P5 jobs. These guys went from the field to jobs at Nebraska and Florida State while Brent has been a defensive coordinator.

An argument made frequently against Sean is that he shouldn't get the K-State job if it's the only one he can get. That's a fair criticism but it should be equally applied. I'm sorry but it appears as if K-State is the absolute ceiling of job that Brent is getting and I view his unwillingness to take a job ready made for success, like UCF, a giant red flag.

good points, but do you really believe Venables couldn't get a job like USF or UCF or Toledo or Akron? (I realize those 4 jobs aren't equal). Is anyone asking Sean if he's a candidate at Arkansas?

No no, I think he can, that's the issue for me. He can't get an offer at a decent P5 but he won't take a good group of 5 job. He's been a coordinator for 20 seasons, it's quite clear his shortest path to getting a good P5 job is having one damn decent season at a group of 5. I'm okay with him getting the K-State job, because like I have said we're getting someone with warts regardless. It's just interesting to me that K-Staters are competent okay with his either:
1. Inability to get an equivalent job
2. Lack of motivation to be a head coach
3. Unwillingness to show he's capable of overcoming his perceived shortcomings by taking a decent job.
The rationalization is fascinating to me, that's all.

I think his easiest (not shortest) path to a "decent" P5 is waiting out Bill. Same as Sean!

And I think the fact that he's now the highest paid assistant makes his situation pretty unique - he won't make more money at a G6 school, but he'll be taking a lot of risk. And I get why his aversion to that risk is sort of a red flag.

Yep, but it still makes perfect sense to me.  Maybe what Venables said in the above interviews is just trying to market himself better, but I personally believe he wants to get fully immersed in a job and has no desire to coach a group of 5 program solely as a resume builder.  That is another thing that actually makes Venables extremely appealing to me if KSU can get him.  He likely would not look anywhere else other than the absolute top programs if K-State is successful.  The fact he no longer wants to interview while his team is playing also works in our favor since Snyder is almost certainly not going to retire at the normal time.

Of course, the other version of the story is that Venables likes being a highly paid assistant without having to do nearly as much PR / front office stuff as a head coach, and he is afraid if he branches out on his own he will fail.  That's possible, but I'd rather gamble on a guy like that then go for an up and coming group of 5 coach who would almost certainly jump ship from KSU if a bigger offer came along.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: meow meow on December 05, 2017, 04:48:30 PM
why don't we pay Venzy a HC salary to be DC and recruit his balls off, and Sean can be the HC, everyone is happy, go cats go
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: michigancat on December 05, 2017, 04:49:39 PM
Of course, the other version of the story is that Venables likes being a highly paid assistant without having to do nearly as much PR / front office stuff as a head coach, and he is afraid if he branches out on his own he will fail.  That's possible, but I'd rather gamble on a guy like that then go for an up and coming group of 5 coach who would almost certainly jump ship from KSU if a bigger offer came along.

FWIW Brent is just as likely as anyone to take a "bigger" offer if they are successful.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: catastrophe on December 05, 2017, 04:58:33 PM
Well there is really no evidence of that but ok.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: catastrophe on December 05, 2017, 04:59:09 PM
why don't we pay Venzy a HC salary to be DC and recruit his balls off, and Sean can be the HC, everyone is happy, go cats go

We would need to steal Herm Edwards away to be CEO.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Dlew12 on December 05, 2017, 05:14:24 PM
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1. Inability to get an equivalent job
2. Lack of motivation to be a head coach
3. Unwillingness to show he's capable of overcoming his perceived shortcomings by taking a decent job.
I wonder which of these reasons applies to Kirby Smart.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: michigancat on December 05, 2017, 05:15:03 PM
Well there is really no evidence of that but ok.

well then that should be all the evidence you need, right?

:cool:
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: MakeItRain on December 05, 2017, 05:22:49 PM
Venables is wise beyond his years IMO. Most people could use the same kind of clarity with their careers. I have no doubt Venables would be offered and would take a HC job if he felt he had all the resources he needed AND would not get forced out by year 3 or 5 if he’s not winning 10 games or conference championships. It makes complete sense not to want to leave a $1 million+ per year job where you’re doing what you love without the bureaucratic BS and constant scrutiny.

It would be easier for him to get this if he took a job like UCF. If, in fact, Venables wants to be a head coach, he should look at someone like Scott Frost and Willie Taggart as to how to build a career. Both of those guys were playing when Brent was coaching, they took coordinator positions, turned them into very good group of 5 jobs, did well with them to get great, high paying P5 jobs. These guys went from the field to jobs at Nebraska and Florida State while Brent has been a defensive coordinator.

An argument made frequently against Sean is that he shouldn't get the K-State job if it's the only one he can get. That's a fair criticism but it should be equally applied. I'm sorry but it appears as if K-State is the absolute ceiling of job that Brent is getting and I view his unwillingness to take a job ready made for success, like UCF, a giant red flag.

He has been offered and asked to interview for plenty of other jobs we’d consider at our level or just above. Multiple ways to build careers. Kirby Smart went a similar route and seems to be doing well through year 2. I don’t feel it was Brent’s major goal to climb in the profession. I think he just truly enjoys what he does. Remember the story about Snyder lowballing him and Stoops wanting to go talk to Bill? Or about Bob having to take him to the airport?

I keep hearing about these jobs and I frequently hear him as a candidate, his name was brought up for at least five jobs this year. What I don't hear is him getting jobs. If he doesn't want these jobs why does his head coach and agent keep putting his name out there?

Also you guys gotta stop with the Kirby Smart comparison. Smart was a coordinator for only seven years before he got that Georgia job. There's no way in hell he'd be a coordinator for 20 years.

All of this, loving stability, waiting for the perfect job stuff is ridiculous. Does he think he can be a good coach or not? There are very few jobs that are actual coach killers, most of these jobs can be winners with the right guy, Seth LittreLL is already winning at North Texas for heavens sakes. I dunno, it just seems like this dude doesn't really want to be bothered.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: michigancat on December 05, 2017, 05:23:07 PM
Quote
1. Inability to get an equivalent job
2. Lack of motivation to be a head coach
3. Unwillingness to show he's capable of overcoming his perceived shortcomings by taking a decent job.
I wonder which of these reasons applies to Kirby Smart.


BV's been a DC quite a bit longer than Smart was.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: michigancat on December 05, 2017, 05:24:41 PM
I dunno, it just seems like this dude doesn't really want to be bothered.

this makes him seem perfect for KSU! :excited:

also LOL at not grasping why an agent might float interest toward a job their client might not take. good grief.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: MakeItRain on December 05, 2017, 05:26:43 PM
Quote
1. Inability to get an equivalent job
2. Lack of motivation to be a head coach
3. Unwillingness to show he's capable of overcoming his perceived shortcomings by taking a decent job.
I wonder which of these reasons applies to Kirby Smart.

Dude, read a wiki page or something, they aren't comparable at all. Kirby Smart had 10 different jobs at 7 different places, he pretty freaking clearly wanted to be a head coach.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: MakeItRain on December 05, 2017, 05:37:36 PM
I dunno, it just seems like this dude doesn't really want to be bothered.

this makes him seem perfect for KSU! :excited:

also LOL at not grasping why an agent might float interest toward a job their client might not take. good grief.

Rusty, goodness man. Please tell me the benefit of Brent seemingly spending 15+ years as candidates for jobs but not getting them. I'd certainly love to see how this squares with the narrative that he could get one of these jobs if he wants one. Consistently being a bridesmaid for these jobs indicates the exact opposite that he could get one of these jobs, similar to K-State.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: MakeItRain on December 05, 2017, 05:50:39 PM
wait, venables should look at frost as a blueprint on how to build a career?  come the eff on, son.  frost is still an unknown and it's yet to be seen how it plays out now that he's in lincoln.
i'd take TBV's career over frost's

Brent clearly had a much better career arc than Frost, well until now. Is there a job in America, including K-State, that would hire Brent over Scott? That was all because of two years running a group of 5 program, something apparently Brent is unwilling to do, which is totally fine but it certainly has led to him being passed in prestige by several of his peers.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: michigancat on December 05, 2017, 05:53:30 PM
I dunno, it just seems like this dude doesn't really want to be bothered.

this makes him seem perfect for KSU! :excited:

also LOL at not grasping why an agent might float interest toward a job their client might not take. good grief.

Rusty, goodness man. Please tell me the benefit of Brent seemingly spending 15+ years as candidates for jobs but not getting them. I'd certainly love to see how this squares with the narrative that he could get one of these jobs if he wants one. Consistently being a bridesmaid for these jobs indicates the exact opposite that he could get one of these jobs, similar to K-State.

um why do you think Mike Gundy's agent has him flirting with every realistic opening every offseason? Maybe to get more money? (Note that I'm assuming BV turns down some jobs, and isn't the "bridesmaid" for all of them)

*it's to get more money for their client

and yes you can make the argument that by not taking a G5 school hurts his bottom line even more
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: MakeItRain on December 05, 2017, 05:59:04 PM
Venables is wise beyond his years IMO. Most people could use the same kind of clarity with their careers. I have no doubt Venables would be offered and would take a HC job if he felt he had all the resources he needed AND would not get forced out by year 3 or 5 if he’s not winning 10 games or conference championships. It makes complete sense not to want to leave a $1 million+ per year job where you’re doing what you love without the bureaucratic BS and constant scrutiny.

It would be easier for him to get this if he took a job like UCF. If, in fact, Venables wants to be a head coach, he should look at someone like Scott Frost and Willie Taggart as to how to build a career. Both of those guys were playing when Brent was coaching, they took coordinator positions, turned them into very good group of 5 jobs, did well with them to get great, high paying P5 jobs. These guys went from the field to jobs at Nebraska and Florida State while Brent has been a defensive coordinator.

An argument made frequently against Sean is that he shouldn't get the K-State job if it's the only one he can get. That's a fair criticism but it should be equally applied. I'm sorry but it appears as if K-State is the absolute ceiling of job that Brent is getting and I view his unwillingness to take a job ready made for success, like UCF, a giant red flag.

good points, but do you really believe Venables couldn't get a job like USF or UCF or Toledo or Akron? (I realize those 4 jobs aren't equal). Is anyone asking Sean if he's a candidate at Arkansas?

No no, I think he can, that's the issue for me. He can't get an offer at a decent P5 but he won't take a good group of 5 job. He's been a coordinator for 20 seasons, it's quite clear his shortest path to getting a good P5 job is having one damn decent season at a group of 5. I'm okay with him getting the K-State job, because like I have said we're getting someone with warts regardless. It's just interesting to me that K-Staters are competent okay with his either:
1. Inability to get an equivalent job
2. Lack of motivation to be a head coach
3. Unwillingness to show he's capable of overcoming his perceived shortcomings by taking a decent job.
The rationalization is fascinating to me, that's all.

I think his easiest (not shortest) path to a "decent" P5 is waiting out Bill. Same as Sean!

And I think the fact that he's now the highest paid assistant makes his situation pretty unique - he won't make more money at a G6 school, but he'll be taking a lot of risk. And I get why his aversion to that risk is sort of a red flag.

He isn't the highest paid assistant, Dave Arranda is. There are 13 group of five coaches that make more than Brent does. Coaches at Louisiana-Lafayette, Utah State, and Texas San Antonio make slightly less. This isn't about money.

I dunno, it just seems like this dude doesn't really want to be bothered.

this makes him seem perfect for KSU! :excited:

also LOL at not grasping why an agent might float interest toward a job their client might not take. good grief.

Rusty, goodness man. Please tell me the benefit of Brent seemingly spending 15+ years as candidates for jobs but not getting them. I'd certainly love to see how this squares with the narrative that he could get one of these jobs if he wants one. Consistently being a bridesmaid for these jobs indicates the exact opposite that he could get one of these jobs, similar to K-State.

um why do you think Mike Gundy's agent has him flirting with every realistic opening every offseason? Maybe to get more money? (Note that I'm assuming BV turns down some jobs, and isn't the "bridesmaid" for all of them)

*it's to get more money for their client

and yes you can make the argument that by not taking a G6 school hurts his bottom line even more

That doesn't work for assistants, and you know that too. This last off-season was his first raise since he got to Clemson, the entire staff got raises.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: michigancat on December 05, 2017, 06:04:59 PM
Ah I was looking at last year's salaries: http://sports.usatoday.com/ncaa/salaries/football/assistant

And while it might not make a difference in his assistant salary, being in the mix at places like UT and Arkansas and turning down jobs like FAU or UCF will absolutely increase his value if/when he decides to accept a head coaching job.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: MakeItRain on December 05, 2017, 06:12:36 PM
No idea how that works, we'll see I guess.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Joker on December 06, 2017, 10:26:30 AM
A nice get for the hogs.


Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: GregKSU1027 on December 06, 2017, 10:33:03 AM
Would the media explode if snyder retired after the bowl game?

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Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: scottwildcat on December 06, 2017, 12:23:57 PM
Would the media explode if snyder retired after the bowl game?

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no, it would hardly register in the media as the playoff would be less than a week away.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: AppleJack on December 06, 2017, 04:27:31 PM
Dana Dimel to UTEP  :D
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: mhkpasa on December 06, 2017, 04:31:09 PM
whoa
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: wetwillie on December 06, 2017, 04:31:45 PM
Forced the eff out!
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: PIPE on December 06, 2017, 04:34:08 PM
Fricken Sweat!! :Woohoo: :driving: :Woot:
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: manpow5 on December 06, 2017, 04:35:00 PM
 :runaway:
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: meow meow on December 06, 2017, 04:35:10 PM
Bob Stoops, want a low stress job?
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Skipper44 on December 06, 2017, 04:35:49 PM
Dana Dimel to UTEP  :D
:sdeek: what does the family fullback do?
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: BackPayne on December 06, 2017, 04:36:36 PM
 :Woot:
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: michigancat on December 06, 2017, 04:41:15 PM
:surprised:

:bwpopcorn:
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on December 06, 2017, 04:41:23 PM
This means Bill is retiring, right?
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: wetwillie on December 06, 2017, 04:43:31 PM
It means Sean just whipped his massive male genitals out and Dana landed on the Mexican border
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: BackPayne on December 06, 2017, 04:50:26 PM
Sean HCIW. :bang:
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: manpow5 on December 06, 2017, 04:50:35 PM
Lol...

Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: meow meow on December 06, 2017, 04:51:19 PM
sounds like Riley is well coached in the gpc ways
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: The Big Train on December 06, 2017, 04:58:31 PM
Guys!  :Woohoo:
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: meow meow on December 06, 2017, 05:00:54 PM
wonder if any coaches go with him?  reset button if you think Bill is leaving soon or don't want to work for Sean.  only options are obviousley Klein, Seiler, Coleman.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: catastrophe on December 06, 2017, 05:04:19 PM
Dana Dimel to UTEP  :D
:sdeek: what does the family fullback do?

Transfer to OU. Didn’t you read the definitive rumor thread?
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: PIPE on December 06, 2017, 05:20:49 PM
Dana Dimel to UTEP  :D
:sdeek: what does the family fullback do?

Transfer to OU. Didn’t you read the definitive rumor thread?

Markome can't be trusted......he had Dimel leaving for ASU for pete's sake.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: muqluk on December 06, 2017, 05:21:35 PM
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Joker on December 06, 2017, 07:18:01 PM
A lot of personal agendas materializing in this thread.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Skipper44 on December 06, 2017, 07:30:35 PM
Dana Dimel to UTEP  :D
:sdeek: what does the family fullback do?

Transfer to OU. Didn’t you read the definitive rumor thread?
idk, the single season rushing record at Texas Western is only 20
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Katpappy on December 06, 2017, 08:03:50 PM
It means Sean just whipped his massive male genitals out and Dana landed on the Mexican border
This made me seriously LOL. (http://goEMAW.com/forum/Smileys/goEMAW/LOL.gif)
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: MakeItRain on December 06, 2017, 08:33:51 PM
The posts hinting that Dana was forced out or this means anything other than the dude left for a head coaching job, that's just people gEing right?

I can't tell, I've spent an hour reading the board at KSO and I literally have a headache from reading all of the stupid crap over there.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: wetwillie on December 06, 2017, 08:35:50 PM
Sean  kicked him to the curb, get over yourself.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: MakeItRain on December 06, 2017, 08:37:39 PM
Sean  kicked him to the curb, get over yourself.

Yep, just read about 40 different versions of this, I'm about ready to kick a puppy.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: wetwillie on December 06, 2017, 08:42:49 PM
 What's your theory he chose to move to Mexico for the same pay to coach the worst team in fbs because he was dying to be a head coach again ?
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Pete on December 06, 2017, 08:44:30 PM
Cartels.  Smh
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: MakeItRain on December 06, 2017, 08:57:27 PM
What's your theory he chose to move to Mexico for the same pay to coach the worst team in fbs because he was dying to be a head coach again ?

Uh, yeah. There are like 130 FBS jobs and while they were winless, it isn't close to the worst job. When the hell would he get another chance to be a FBS head coach again?
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: kstate1701 on December 07, 2017, 08:41:59 AM
Guess on UTEP Staff:
Dimel - HC
Cox - DC
Debord - OC
Waters -QBs
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: ChiCat on December 07, 2017, 08:58:08 AM
The posts hinting that Dana was forced out or this means anything other than the dude left for a head coaching job, that's just people gEing right?

I can't tell, I've spent an hour reading the board at KSO and I literally have a headache from reading all of the stupid crap over there.

A lot of rumblings in Vanier about him and Snyder not getting along.  Dimel may have taken the job because its a HC gig, Snyder told him to GTFO, or him wanting to GTFO. 

A HC job is certainly reason enough to leave for most people.  Yes UTEP sucks but Dimel may not get an offer anywhere else.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Joker on December 07, 2017, 09:04:11 AM
A HC job is certainly reason enough to leave for most people.  Yes UTEP sucks but Dimel may not get an offer anywhere else.

Agree.  Even if he wasn't encouraged to leave, he knew his time in Manhattan was nearing an end with Bill hanging it up.  Might as well take the offer while it's available.  Odds are against him getting another HC shot a year from now.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: manpow5 on December 07, 2017, 09:23:42 AM
Alabama DC to Tennessee
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: kso_FAN on December 07, 2017, 09:25:46 AM
The posts hinting that Dana was forced out or this means anything other than the dude left for a head coaching job, that's just people gEing right?

I can't tell, I've spent an hour reading the board at KSO and I literally have a headache from reading all of the stupid crap over there.

I am avoiding all the various OC threads over there. Man.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: scottwildcat on December 07, 2017, 09:49:07 AM
Dimel wants to be a HC again, it became obvious he never was going to get a shot to be the next guy at K-State he went to a job where he’ll get time to turn it around, and if he even gets them to .500 he may get a shot at a slightly better job. Anyone who thinks he was “forced” out is an idiot.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Pete on December 07, 2017, 10:26:04 AM
 I wonder if Dimel leaving is our clearest signal that Bill’s retirement is imminent?

Dimel taking another HC gig seems to be an indicator that he believed he wouldn’t get the KSU HC gig.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Shooter Jones on December 07, 2017, 10:27:54 AM
I wonder if Dimel leaving is our clearest signal that Bill’s retirement is imminent?

Dimel taking another HC gig seems to be an indicator that he believed he wouldn’t get the KSU HC gig.

Yes, Bill/Sean used their power of influence to "force" Dana to look at different HC gigs.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: MakeItRain on December 07, 2017, 10:28:50 AM
When you're 78 years old, coaching college football, your retirement is always imminent.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: PIPE on December 07, 2017, 11:54:27 AM
Ok, now who else is leaving?
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: LickNeckey on December 07, 2017, 12:11:47 PM
Fabris
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Shooter Jones on December 07, 2017, 12:15:37 PM
Ok, now who else is leaving?

Larry (Fabris), Curly (Hayes), and Mo will all be leaving.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: MadCat on December 07, 2017, 02:59:17 PM
Ok, now who else is leaving?

Larry (Fabris), Curly (Hayes), and Mo will all be leaving.

Is this pretty much all our defensive staff except Seiler?
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: scottwildcat on December 07, 2017, 03:28:43 PM
Ok, now who else is leaving?

Larry (Fabris), Curly (Hayes), and Mo will all be leaving.

Is this pretty much all our defensive staff except Seiler?

ya
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on December 07, 2017, 03:45:12 PM
Is Bielma under the radar for on-field or off-field behavior
Can  you imaging watching that guy destroy a slice of prime rib at Harry's?

 :billdance:
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: michigancat on December 07, 2017, 08:08:08 PM
So UT fired Currie so they could hire Bama's DC? yeesh
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Katpappy on December 07, 2017, 08:42:56 PM
Ok, now who else is leaving?

Larry (Fabris), Curly (Hayes), and Mo will all be leaving.

Is this pretty much all our defensive staff except Seiler?

ya

Cox?
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: kso_FAN on December 08, 2017, 10:50:25 AM
Ok, now who else is leaving?

Larry (Fabris), Curly (Hayes), and Mo will all be leaving.

Is this pretty much all our defensive staff except Seiler?

ya

Cox?

a) He was fired last year and b) he's likely going with Dimel to UTEP.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Chingon on December 08, 2017, 01:14:44 PM
What would you all say is the minimum win % against P5 teams that an average coach should have?  What win% would make you a great coach?  Hall of fame caliber coach?
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Chingon on December 08, 2017, 01:53:37 PM
What would you all say is the minimum win % against P5 teams that an average coach should have?  What win% would make you a great coach?  Hall of fame caliber coach?

Too many variables.  Conference,  division,  historical record, enthusiasm of the fan base.  50% @ ku, gets you a statue.  50% @ Auburn gets you death threats.
It is quite true that programs all have different expectations, but I think some rough baselines can be established if you don't include the extreme outliers like KU.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Joker on December 08, 2017, 02:05:06 PM
This is a good question.

https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/leaders/win-loss-pct-coach-career.html
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Skipper44 on December 08, 2017, 02:06:55 PM
Gong bowling more often than not and being close to 500 in conference play is going to keep you at most middle of the road p5 jobs.   Without going thru them all my gut tells me there are less middle of the road jobs than there are "football school" jobs with hire expectations
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: TheHamburglar on December 08, 2017, 02:13:55 PM
This is a good question.

https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/leaders/win-loss-pct-coach-career.html

Didn't expect to see Frank Kush & RC Slocum in the top 50.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Joker on December 08, 2017, 04:41:28 PM
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: manpow5 on December 08, 2017, 05:26:48 PM

Nothing would be better than seeing them flop.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: michigancat on December 08, 2017, 05:43:02 PM
jeez he didn't retain a single coach?
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: HELLHAMMER on December 08, 2017, 05:46:41 PM
jeez he didn't retain a single coach?
Why would he?  UCF is a better program.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: resident LibBot dick holder on December 08, 2017, 07:53:47 PM
so what does UCF do at the bowl game in this situation?
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Joker on December 08, 2017, 08:11:19 PM
so what does UCF do at the bowl game in this situation?



Frost says he still wants to coach them.

Quote
“I want to,” Frost told al.com at the Home Depot College Football Awards show Thursday night. “We’re trying to work it out so both sides are happy with the arrangement. I had a special group of guys down there at UCF and I want to do everything I can for them.

“So if we can get it worked out, I want to give those guys the best shot to win a game against a really good team in the Peach Bowl.”
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: EMAWzifried on December 08, 2017, 08:50:35 PM
Venables' message about his future to 4-star commit

https://www.tigernet.com/update/recruiting/Venables-message-about-his-future-to-4-star-commit-28967
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: MakeItRain on December 08, 2017, 11:04:24 PM
Unfortunately, even that, won't kill the ridiculous Brent hype.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Joker on December 09, 2017, 07:15:51 AM
Yeah, we have like two or three pages of Venzy quotes implying that he really isn't trying to be a HC right now.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: ChiCat on December 09, 2017, 09:51:48 AM
That sounds to me like something almost any assistant would say to a recruit. I don’t know how many guys go into a recruit’s home and says he’s bolting in a couple of years.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: MakeItRain on December 09, 2017, 10:23:58 AM
That sounds to me like something almost any assistant would say to a recruit. I don’t know how many guys go into a recruit’s home and says he’s bolting in a couple of years.

He expressly stated that he's staying at Clemson then gave reasons why he's doing so, there wasn't the slightest hedge. Like joker said it isn't like that's the only evidence we have of his intentions either.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Katpappy on December 09, 2017, 01:34:39 PM
This is a good question.

https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/leaders/win-loss-pct-coach-career.html

Didn't expect to see Frank Kush & RC Slocum in the top 50.
The same RC that was fired from ATM.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: MadCat on December 09, 2017, 03:29:00 PM
TCU’s AD leaving to be AD at UTexas
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: ChiCat on December 09, 2017, 04:29:36 PM
That sounds to me like something almost any assistant would say to a recruit. I don’t know how many guys go into a recruit’s home and says he’s bolting in a couple of years.

He expressly stated that he's staying at Clemson then gave reasons why he's doing so, there wasn't the slightest hedge. Like joker said it isn't like that's the only evidence we have of his intentions either.

I think he intends to stay there awhile too. I just don’t think him telling a recruit that is terribly convincing evidence.

I do think he’ll eventually leave and could’ve been a HC somewhere if he wanted. I’m not sure if he’s waiting for specific jobs or something in his personal life (kids to college or whatever).
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: MadCat on December 10, 2017, 02:27:37 PM
Proud Paul to be UCLA’s Dbacks coach
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: tdaver on December 11, 2017, 10:32:05 PM
Sonny Dykes to SMU
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: MakeItRain on December 12, 2017, 01:39:48 PM
Sonny Dykes to SMU

crap like this is why the lack of minorities in college football coaching is problematic. This garbage retread didn't deserve this job.  SMU will suck and they'll get what they deserve.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Joker on December 12, 2017, 03:32:19 PM
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Katpappy on December 12, 2017, 03:40:20 PM
Were those four sources: Trim, SD, Dickstone & Pete?  Just asking for a friend.  :Wha:
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: AppleJack on December 12, 2017, 03:44:27 PM
Probably best that he comes back at this point.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Dlew12 on December 12, 2017, 03:48:25 PM
Bill, will you just get the hell out please?
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Trim on December 12, 2017, 04:23:47 PM
Were those four sources: Trim, SD, Dickstone & Pete?  Just asking for a friend.  :Wha:

Not me.

How does Bill planning to come back jive with the idea from a few weeks ago that his contract calls for his pay to cease next month?
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Testy Westy on December 12, 2017, 04:28:09 PM
I'm sure GPC will claim they've been sitting on this info for weeks.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: wetwillie on December 12, 2017, 04:39:41 PM
Flow chart

Does Sean get the job?  If yes: retire.        if no: come back/die
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: michigancat on December 12, 2017, 04:49:22 PM
this will give us a solid year of Sean-as-leader twitter, which I'm legitimately looking forward to.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: 'taterblast on December 12, 2017, 04:50:39 PM
i hate that this has turned into a BREAKING NEWS thing. until he says otherwise, he's going to continue coaching. any noise other than that is generated by people outside of the program that don't know anything.

i understand wanting him to retire, fwiw. but that's a different conversation.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Dlew12 on December 12, 2017, 04:53:14 PM
i hate that this has turned into a BREAKING NEWS thing. until he says otherwise, he's going to continue coaching. any noise other than that is generated by people outside of the program that don't know anything.

i understand wanting him to retire, fwiw. but that's a different conversation.
You don't think it's news that our nearly 80 year old coach with cancer is planning to coach another season?
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: michigancat on December 12, 2017, 05:00:45 PM
i hate that this has turned into a BREAKING NEWS thing. until he says otherwise, he's going to continue coaching. any noise other than that is generated by people outside of the program that don't know anything.

i understand wanting him to retire, fwiw. but that's a different conversation.

is this the gpc line on why they didn't have a story?
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: 'taterblast on December 12, 2017, 05:04:58 PM
i hate that this has turned into a BREAKING NEWS thing. until he says otherwise, he's going to continue coaching. any noise other than that is generated by people outside of the program that don't know anything.

i understand wanting him to retire, fwiw. but that's a different conversation.
You don't think it's news that our nearly 80 year old coach with cancer is planning to coach another season?

i do, i guess i just wish he would say that all along. i think he answers "i'll evaluate after the season" when he knows damn well he plans to come back next season.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Dlew12 on December 12, 2017, 05:12:18 PM
i hate that this has turned into a BREAKING NEWS thing. until he says otherwise, he's going to continue coaching. any noise other than that is generated by people outside of the program that don't know anything.

i understand wanting him to retire, fwiw. but that's a different conversation.
You don't think it's news that our nearly 80 year old coach with cancer is planning to coach another season?

i do, i guess i just wish he would say that all along. i think he answers "i'll evaluate after the season" when he knows damn well he plans to come back next season.
I just wish he would gracefully step down like a non-weirdo, instead of cosplaying around like he's actually being a head football coach of a P5 program.

How many times this year did he say wtf things in the post-game press conference?  Bill was a GREAT coach, but I think it's obvious now that he either doesn't have the wherewithal or the energy to exhibit same insane micromanagement that he did during his heyday.  IMO, Head Coach LHC Bill Snyder in 2017 is far different than the HCBS in 1992, 2003, and 2012.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: michigancat on December 12, 2017, 05:16:27 PM
i hate that this has turned into a BREAKING NEWS thing. until he says otherwise, he's going to continue coaching. any noise other than that is generated by people outside of the program that don't know anything.

i understand wanting him to retire, fwiw. but that's a different conversation.
You don't think it's news that our nearly 80 year old coach with cancer is planning to coach another season?

i do, i guess i just wish he would say that all along. i think he answers "i'll evaluate after the season" when he knows damn well he plans to come back next season.
I just wish he would gracefully step down like a non-weirdo, instead of cosplaying around like he's actually being a head football coach of a P5 program.

How many times this year did he say wtf things in the post-game press conference?  Bill was a GREAT coach, but I think it's obvious now that he either doesn't have the wherewithal or the energy to exhibit same insane micromanagement that he did during his heyday.  IMO, Head Coach LHC Bill Snyder in 2017 is far different than the HCBS in 1992, 2003, and 2012.

the HCBS of 2017 should be different from 1992. For a lot of reasons. IMO the less he's involved, the better, really. But I think he's still way more involved than you give him credit for.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: 'taterblast on December 12, 2017, 05:32:15 PM
i don't know about 1992, but 2017 bill is the exact same as 2012 bill in terms of involvement.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Trim on December 12, 2017, 06:35:06 PM
i hate that this has turned into a BREAKING NEWS thing. until he says otherwise, he's going to continue coaching. any noise other than that is generated by people outside of the program that don't know anything.

i understand wanting him to retire, fwiw. but that's a different conversation.

is this the gpc line on why they didn't have a story?

Quote
I spoke directly yesterday with someone who had just spoken with Coach, and he believes Coach Snyder will retire, but it was simply his opinion and that's not enough to base a story on. There's a difference between educated opinions and knowing for sure. If Coach Snyder sets a date to announce his return and we know of it, we will report that at the proper time.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Skipper44 on December 12, 2017, 06:37:30 PM
i don't know about 1992, but 2017 bill is the exact same as 2012 bill in terms of involvement.
even on gameday?  Seems like he is not on the headset much anymore - do we even have a Neek ?
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: ChiCat on December 12, 2017, 06:54:20 PM
i hate that this has turned into a BREAKING NEWS thing. until he says otherwise, he's going to continue coaching. any noise other than that is generated by people outside of the program that don't know anything.

i understand wanting him to retire, fwiw. but that's a different conversation.

is this the gpc line on why they didn't have a story?

Quote
I spoke directly yesterday with someone who had just spoken with Coach, and he believes Coach Snyder will retire, but it was simply his opinion and that's not enough to base a story on. There's a difference between educated opinions and knowing for sure. If Coach Snyder sets a date to announce his return and we know of it, we will report that at the proper time.
They are such dicks
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: MakeItRain on December 12, 2017, 07:33:41 PM
i don't know about 1992, but 2017 bill is the exact same as 2012 bill in terms of involvement.
even on gameday?  Seems like he is not on the headset much anymore - do we even have a Neek ?

When people say this I'm curious as to know what the hell it's based on.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: resident LibBot dick holder on December 12, 2017, 07:37:40 PM
it's not A neek, it's THE neek
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: ben ji on December 12, 2017, 08:29:33 PM
i hate that this has turned into a BREAKING NEWS thing. until he says otherwise, he's going to continue coaching. any noise other than that is generated by people outside of the program that don't know anything.

i understand wanting him to retire, fwiw. but that's a different conversation.
You don't think it's news that our nearly 80 year old coach with cancer is planning to coach another season?

i do, i guess i just wish he would say that all along. i think he answers "i'll evaluate after the season" when he knows damn well he plans to come back next season.
I just wish he would gracefully step down like a non-weirdo, instead of cosplaying around like he's actually being a head football coach of a P5 program.

How many times this year did he say wtf things in the post-game press conference?  Bill was a GREAT coach, but I think it's obvious now that he either doesn't have the wherewithal or the energy to exhibit same insane micromanagement that he did during his heyday.  IMO, Head Coach LHC Bill Snyder in 2017 is far different than the HCBS in 1992, 2003, and 2012.

Can't wait until Bill goes 11-2 next year with a loss in the Big12 championship game that cost us a playoff shot. Will shove it right in D-Lew's face then we will say whatever man, the Sugar Bowl is going to be pretty sweet.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Pete on December 12, 2017, 08:30:28 PM
this will give us a solid year of Sean-as-leader twitter, which I'm legitimately looking forward to.

Sean's parents don't know he is on twitter, so he dgaf.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: chum1 on December 12, 2017, 08:52:20 PM
I'd love to see a thread dedicated to Coach Sean's lessons in leadership.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: BackPayne on December 12, 2017, 09:06:45 PM
Will Sean be promoted to OC so he can take over when Bill retires before the season begins?
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Dlew12 on December 12, 2017, 09:51:14 PM
i don't know about 1992, but 2017 bill is the exact same as 2012 bill in terms of involvement.
even on gameday?  Seems like he is not on the headset much anymore - do we even have a Neek ?

When people say this I'm curious as to know what the hell it's based on.
It's based on his comments in postgames when he said he didn't know what the hell was going on with the playcalling?  Maybe he always didn't know what was happening with our offensive system, but who knows.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: MakeItRain on December 12, 2017, 10:53:46 PM
i don't know about 1992, but 2017 bill is the exact same as 2012 bill in terms of involvement.
even on gameday?  Seems like he is not on the headset much anymore - do we even have a Neek ?

When people say this I'm curious as to know what the hell it's based on.
It's based on his comments in postgames when he said he didn't know what the hell was going on with the playcalling?  Maybe he always didn't know what was happening with our offensive system, but who knows.

Yes, dlew we've literally been talking about that for the extent of Snyder 2.0 and you absolutely know that. You also are smart enough to know when he's acting like he has no idea what's going on, he's likely lying out of his ass. The most recent example of him being a lying liarsons was when he acted like he didn't know who Brett McMurphy was.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: MakeItRain on December 12, 2017, 10:59:05 PM
i don't know about 1992, but 2017 bill is the exact same as 2012 bill in terms of involvement.
even on gameday?  Seems like he is not on the headset much anymore - do we even have a Neek ?

When people say this I'm curious as to know what the hell it's based on.
It's based on his comments in postgames when he said he didn't know what the hell was going on with the playcalling?  Maybe he always didn't know what was happening with our offensive system, but who knows.

Okay so we acknowledge that he wears a headset, at least we should. When he acts like he doesn't know what's going on when the media asks him, I'm dumbfounded that people take that for gospel. What exactly do you think he's using the headset for? Even if he isn't talking, he is, it's certainly listening, unless you think he's listening to NPR or Mel Tillis and  Conway Twitty.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on December 12, 2017, 11:17:44 PM
My grandpa could have had a long conversation with Brett McMurphy a couple of years ago and have no idea who he is today. It’s really not outside the realm of possibility that Bill didn’t recall who he is.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: MakeItRain on December 12, 2017, 11:43:38 PM
My grandpa could have had a long conversation with Brett McMurphy a couple of years ago and have no idea who he is today. It’s really not outside the realm of possibility that Bill didn’t recall who he is.

 :dubious:

Are you rough ridin' serious?
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: MadCat on December 12, 2017, 11:56:36 PM
Phil Bennett is leaving Arizona State after their bowl game.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: pvegs on December 13, 2017, 12:48:29 AM
My grandpa could have had a long conversation with Brett McMurphy a couple of years ago and have no idea who he is today. It’s really not outside the realm of possibility that Bill didn’t recall who he is.

 :dubious:

Are you rough ridin' serious?

so, i'll tell this story because it won't blow a source. but this guy was on the field with bishop and darnell mcdonald during week 1. mcdonald hadn't been back to manhattan since his playing days. he walked up to snyder on the field pre-game and snyder had no idea who he was. mcdonald looked back to bish and my friend on the sidelines and shrugged his shoulders. just, like, "i don't know what's up." so, snyder, being out of it is not outside of the realm of possibility.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on December 13, 2017, 05:56:24 AM
i don't know about 1992, but 2017 bill is the exact same as 2012 bill in terms of involvement.
even on gameday?  Seems like he is not on the headset much anymore - do we even have a Neek ?

When people say this I'm curious as to know what the hell it's based on.
It's based on his comments in postgames when he said he didn't know what the hell was going on with the playcalling?  Maybe he always didn't know what was happening with our offensive system, but who knows.

Okay so we acknowledge that he wears a headset, at least we should. When he acts like he doesn't know what's going on when the media asks him, I'm dumbfounded that people take that for gospel. What exactly do you think he's using the headset for? Even if he isn't talking, he is, it's certainly listening, unless you think he's listening to NPR or Mel Tillis and  Conway Twitty.

They're Bose noise cancelling headphones, mir.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Dlew12 on December 13, 2017, 08:18:17 AM
i don't know about 1992, but 2017 bill is the exact same as 2012 bill in terms of involvement.
even on gameday?  Seems like he is not on the headset much anymore - do we even have a Neek ?

When people say this I'm curious as to know what the hell it's based on.
It's based on his comments in postgames when he said he didn't know what the hell was going on with the playcalling?  Maybe he always didn't know what was happening with our offensive system, but who knows.

Okay so we acknowledge that he wears a headset, at least we should. When he acts like he doesn't know what's going on when the media asks him, I'm dumbfounded that people take that for gospel. What exactly do you think he's using the headset for? Even if he isn't talking, he is, it's certainly listening, unless you think he's listening to NPR or Mel Tillis and  Conway Twitty.
I've been surmising that they give him a headset and just don't plug it into anything like that radio DJamer from wet hot american summer

Yes, dlew we've literally been talking about that for the extent of Snyder 2.0 and you absolutely know that. You also are smart enough to know when he's acting like he has no idea what's going on, he's likely lying out of his ass. The most recent example of him being a lying liarsons was when he acted like he didn't know who Brett McMurphy was.
Is he being a lying liarsons when he calls Skylar Thompson "Taylor" on the coach's show?  Or is he just being a mispeaking michael or a forgetful finnegan?
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: MadCat on December 13, 2017, 09:05:20 AM
Dinkmentia Darrell?
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: MakeItRain on December 13, 2017, 10:01:35 AM
My grandpa could have had a long conversation with Brett McMurphy a couple of years ago and have no idea who he is today. It’s really not outside the realm of possibility that Bill didn’t recall who he is.

 :dubious:

Are you rough ridin' serious?

so, i'll tell this story because it won't blow a source. but this guy was on the field with bishop and darnell mcdonald during week 1. mcdonald hadn't been back to manhattan since his playing days. he walked up to snyder on the field pre-game and snyder had no idea who he was. mcdonald looked back to bish and my friend on the sidelines and shrugged his shoulders. just, like, "i don't know what's up." so, snyder, being out of it is not outside of the realm of possibility.

This is interesting because I literally spent an entire quarter of this game with Mike, Darnell, and Jeff. Also worth noting that Darnell hasn't been back here since he left 19 years ago, he's 41 years old and barely recognized me despite the fact that we had classes together at GCCC and K-State, we got into two fights in four years (both over basketball), worked together at GCCC and the Rec, he dated one of my home girls, and he sat in.my living room more than once eating my food and playing my PlayStation, including the night of the Nebraska win.

Long story short, you sometimes forget what people look like when you go 20 years without seeing them.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: MakeItRain on December 13, 2017, 10:07:11 AM
i don't know about 1992, but 2017 bill is the exact same as 2012 bill in terms of involvement.
even on gameday?  Seems like he is not on the headset much anymore - do we even have a Neek ?

When people say this I'm curious as to know what the hell it's based on.
It's based on his comments in postgames when he said he didn't know what the hell was going on with the playcalling?  Maybe he always didn't know what was happening with our offensive system, but who knows.

Okay so we acknowledge that he wears a headset, at least we should. When he acts like he doesn't know what's going on when the media asks him, I'm dumbfounded that people take that for gospel. What exactly do you think he's using the headset for? Even if he isn't talking, he is, it's certainly listening, unless you think he's listening to NPR or Mel Tillis and  Conway Twitty.
I've been surmising that they give him a headset and just don't plug it into anything like that radio DJamer from wet hot american summer

Yes, dlew we've literally been talking about that for the extent of Snyder 2.0 and you absolutely know that. You also are smart enough to know when he's acting like he has no idea what's going on, he's likely lying out of his ass. The most recent example of him being a lying liarsons was when he acted like he didn't know who Brett McMurphy was.
Is he being a lying liarsons when he calls Skylar Thompson "Taylor" on the coach's show?  Or is he just being a mispeaking michael or a forgetful finnegan?
To get this back on track, are you contending misspeaking Thompson's name is evidence of Snyder not "being as involved on the headset" this season?
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Dlew12 on December 13, 2017, 10:13:06 AM
Is he being a lying liarsons when he calls Skylar Thompson "Taylor" on the coach's show?  Or is he just being a mispeaking michael or a forgetful finnegan?
To get this back on track, are you contending misspeaking Thompson's name is evidence of Snyder not "being as involved on the headset" this season?
Nah.  I don't think I've said he wasn't as involved on the headset.  To be clear, I DON'T think he's as involved, but that's not what I was getting at.   

I'm contending that Snyder "misstating" the name of his starting quarterback is another example that makes me wonder if Snyder's age is catching up with him.  The guy is damn near 80 and weighs about 110 pounds. 
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: MakeItRain on December 13, 2017, 10:32:09 AM
Is he being a lying liarsons when he calls Skylar Thompson "Taylor" on the coach's show?  Or is he just being a mispeaking michael or a forgetful finnegan?
To get this back on track, are you contending misspeaking Thompson's name is evidence of Snyder not "being as involved on the headset" this season?
Nah.  I don't think I've said he wasn't as involved on the headset.  To be clear, I DON'T think he's as involved, but that's not what I was getting at.   

I'm contending that Snyder "misstating" the name of his starting quarterback is another example that makes me wonder if Snyder's age is catching up with him.  The guy is damn near 80 and weighs about 110 pounds.

Okay, I agree with that, not sure who wouldn't. Back to the topic of his involvement. He definitely has empowered his assistants more than he has in the past, but again this has been a constant of Snyder 2.0, I don't think he's called a play since 2005. This isn't new at all, I'm actually insulted at the belief that all of a sudden this is some Weekend at Bernie's bullshit. He's actually allowing his assistants to do their jobs, doesn't mean he isn't still the HNIC.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: 'taterblast on December 13, 2017, 10:37:07 AM
it's sad that people are grasping for straws to show that snyder has dementia to justify their desire for him to retire. if you think the results on the field aren't good enough, fine, i agree. but screaming "HE'S DEMENTED" is good for no one. he's as involved with the program as he's ever been since he came back in '09. 

for what it's worth, if it were my choice i would have him move on and hire brent venables. so i'm on your side. but to act like suddenly it's so much different in the past 2 or 3 seasons is ignorant. no, he doesn't call plays, and i bet people would complain if he did, saying he needs to delegate more.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: resident LibBot dick holder on December 13, 2017, 10:45:22 AM
Head Nepotist In Charge?
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Shooter Jones on December 13, 2017, 10:50:25 AM
it's sad that people are grasping for straws to show that snyder has dementia to justify their desire for him to retire. if you think the results on the field aren't good enough, fine, i agree. but screaming "HE'S DEMENTED" is good for no one. he's as involved with the program as he's ever been since he came back in '09. 

for what it's worth, if it were my choice i would have him move on and hire brent venables. so i'm on your side. but to act like suddenly it's so much different in the past 2 or 3 seasons is ignorant. no, he doesn't call plays, and i bet people would complain if he did, saying he needs to delegate more.

Not to be a dick, and I'm not saying he is now, but it has been proven that cancer treatments can have serious cognitive effects. This could also include the onset of dementia, or early onset (this has been proven). Not to say that would be the difference in the past 2 or 3 seasons, but to say someone is ignorant for thinking that, is a stretch.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: 'taterblast on December 13, 2017, 11:00:41 AM
people were saying it before cancer was in the picture
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: wetwillie on December 13, 2017, 11:05:59 AM
it's sad that people are grasping for straws to show that snyder has dementia to justify their desire for him to retire. if you think the results on the field aren't good enough, fine, i agree. but screaming "HE'S DEMENTED" is good for no one. he's as involved with the program as he's ever been since he came back in '09. 

for what it's worth, if it were my choice i would have him move on and hire brent venables. so i'm on your side. but to act like suddenly it's so much different in the past 2 or 3 seasons is ignorant. no, he doesn't call plays, and i bet people would complain if he did, saying he needs to delegate more.

Jeeze Sean lighten up.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Shooter Jones on December 13, 2017, 11:09:37 AM
people were saying it before cancer was in the picture

Yes, lots of people have said things during Snyder 2.0, which I feel were mostly making jokes or gE'ing, because it was pretty obvious he was still witty and quick to respond to questions, and still an impressive speaker during press conferences, etc. But what people are bringing up are situations from this year, that could simply be lapses or raise serious red flags and could be 100% real.

I can't come up with many of the red flag examples so I'll stay out of it. But it absolutely shouldn't just be ignored and people with concern shouldn't be referred to as ignorant for that concern.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Dlew12 on December 13, 2017, 11:14:10 AM
it's sad that people are grasping for straws to show that snyder has dementia to justify their desire for him to retire. if you think the results on the field aren't good enough, fine, i agree. but screaming "HE'S DEMENTED" is good for no one. he's as involved with the program as he's ever been since he came back in '09. 

for what it's worth, if it were my choice i would have him move on and hire brent venables. so i'm on your side. but to act like suddenly it's so much different in the past 2 or 3 seasons is ignorant. no, he doesn't call plays, and i bet people would complain if he did, saying he needs to delegate more.

Not to be a dick, and I'm not saying he is now, but it has been proven that cancer treatments can have serious cognitive effects. This could also include the onset of dementia, or early onset (this has been proven). Not to say that would be the difference in the past 2 or 3 seasons, but to say someone is ignorant for thinking that, is a stretch.
I'm not screaming he's demented.  I'm saying his health has dramatically changed over the course of Snyder 2.0, and he's now, what, 8 years older than he was when he returned?  I don't think it's crazy to suggest that maybe that's starting to catch up with him energy-wise, and, yes, mentally. 

Me being dissatisfied with the results on the field and me wondering about Snyder's capacity to serve as head coach aren't mutually exclusive. 

Was I disappointed with this season's results?  Yes I was.  Do I think his age and health contributed to our disappointing season?  I'd guess that yes, they did.  Because of those things, I think he should retire. 

Maybe Snyder is as involved as he was in 2012.  You and MIR seem to hold onto that as if it's a stone cold fact, but me?  I doubt it.  FWIW, I assume we're all making guesses as to his levels of involvement.

I never subscribed to the "#dinkmentia" nonsense, partly because I thought it was disrespectful and partly because, at the time, I was willing to give him the benefit of the doubt.   I didn't really suspect "weekend at bernie's bullshit" until i learned that Snyder had cancer.  That's when I thought, "huh, ya know, Snyder is getting up there in age.  These things happen."  I found his decision to come back and coach this year particularly odd.  He's an elderly man with cancer.  How could he possibly fulfill a demanding role like head-coaching a P5 program?  Maybe he's always misstated his most important players' names and feigned confusion to the media, but in light of his age and health, those incidents sound off alarm bells with me. 
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Trim on December 13, 2017, 11:18:06 AM
He didn't know if it was H3O or #LiFE out there.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: meow meow on December 13, 2017, 11:28:02 AM
dementia is awful, and if Snyder ever has it, i will be truly sad af
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: MakeItRain on December 13, 2017, 12:28:59 PM
it's sad that people are grasping for straws to show that snyder has dementia to justify their desire for him to retire. if you think the results on the field aren't good enough, fine, i agree. but screaming "HE'S DEMENTED" is good for no one. he's as involved with the program as he's ever been since he came back in '09. 

for what it's worth, if it were my choice i would have him move on and hire brent venables. so i'm on your side. but to act like suddenly it's so much different in the past 2 or 3 seasons is ignorant. no, he doesn't call plays, and i bet people would complain if he did, saying he needs to delegate more.

Not to be a dick, and I'm not saying he is now, but it has been proven that cancer treatments can have serious cognitive effects. This could also include the onset of dementia, or early onset (this has been proven). Not to say that would be the difference in the past 2 or 3 seasons, but to say someone is ignorant for thinking that, is a stretch.
I'm not screaming he's demented.  I'm saying his health has dramatically changed over the course of Snyder 2.0, and he's now, what, 8 years older than he was when he returned?  I don't think it's crazy to suggest that maybe that's starting to catch up with him energy-wise, and, yes, mentally. 

Me being dissatisfied with the results on the field and me wondering about Snyder's capacity to serve as head coach aren't mutually exclusive. 

Was I disappointed with this season's results?  Yes I was.  Do I think his age and health contributed to our disappointing season?  I'd guess that yes, they did.  Because of those things, I think he should retire. 

Maybe Snyder is as involved as he was in 2012.  You and MIR seem to hold onto that as if it's a stone cold fact, but me?  I doubt it.  FWIW, I assume we're all making guesses as to his levels of involvement.

I never subscribed to the "#dinkmentia" nonsense, partly because I thought it was disrespectful and partly because, at the time, I was willing to give him the benefit of the doubt.   I didn't really suspect "weekend at bernie's bullshit" until i learned that Snyder had cancer.  That's when I thought, "huh, ya know, Snyder is getting up there in age.  These things happen."  I found his decision to come back and coach this year particularly odd.  He's an elderly man with cancer.  How could he possibly fulfill a demanding role like head-coaching a P5 program?  Maybe he's always misstated his most important players' names and feigned confusion to the media, but in light of his age and health, those incidents sound off alarm bells with me.

I asked for reasoning as to why people say he isn't as involved, shooter gave as good of a reason as I've seen but is still conjecture. I sit directly behind the bench and three times in the last two seasons I've been on the sideline, I've seen no evidence to indicate any change in that time to how LHC Bill Snyder runs his program. I'm holding on to this as fact because there's absolutely zero concrete evidence to the contrary, not seeing him moving his lips when he's on camera isn't close to enough.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: meow meow on December 13, 2017, 01:11:18 PM
mir has spoken so stfu everyone else
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: michigancat on December 13, 2017, 01:32:41 PM
Bill went to a lot of wooly basketball games so a Skylar Thomas/Thompson slip is almost expected.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Dlew12 on December 13, 2017, 01:47:00 PM
Bill went to a lot of wooly basketball games so a Skylar Thomas/Thompson slip is almost expected.
yeah but he called him taylor.  could he have gotten him confused with shortlived KSU great Val Taylor? 

I asked for reasoning as to why people say he isn't as involved, shooter gave as good of a reason as I've seen but is still conjecture. I sit directly behind the bench and three times in the last two seasons I've been on the sideline, I've seen no evidence to indicate any change in that time to how LHC Bill Snyder runs his program. I'm holding on to this as fact because there's absolutely zero concrete evidence to the contrary, not seeing him moving his lips when he's on camera isn't close to enough.
Yeah man, your awesome seats are cool and all, but we're both ultimately basing our opinions on conjecture -- which is fine because this is a sports message board..  You asked why i don't think he's as involved anymore and I told you that i'm basing my opinions on his health, his age, and his press-conference comments where he basically admits to being out of the loop.  You think that evidence is trash, which i fully understand. 

You have your opinion and I have mine.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: ksuchris2000 on December 13, 2017, 01:52:41 PM
mir has spoken so stfu everyone else

Yeah because most threads on this board turn into MIR browbeating his opinion into the crowd and treating everyone else like they're stupid because they dont agree with him.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Dlew12 on December 13, 2017, 01:56:32 PM
i've known MIR for like, 10 years guys.  we're just having a bbs argument.  chill out.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: MakeItRain on December 13, 2017, 02:06:13 PM
Bill went to a lot of wooly basketball games so a Skylar Thomas/Thompson slip is almost expected.
yeah but he called him taylor.  could he have gotten him confused with shortlived KSU great Val Taylor? 

I asked for reasoning as to why people say he isn't as involved, shooter gave as good of a reason as I've seen but is still conjecture. I sit directly behind the bench and three times in the last two seasons I've been on the sideline, I've seen no evidence to indicate any change in that time to how LHC Bill Snyder runs his program. I'm holding on to this as fact because there's absolutely zero concrete evidence to the contrary, not seeing him moving his lips when he's on camera isn't close to enough.
Yeah man, your awesome seats are cool and all, but we're both ultimately basing our opinions on conjecture -- which is fine because this is a sports message board..  You asked why i don't think he's as involved anymore and I told you that i'm basing my opinions on his health, his age, and his press-conference comments where he basically admits to being out of the loop.  You think that evidence is trash, which i fully understand. 

You have your opinion and I have mine.

None of that is trash, it's more likely to be fact than not, it just isn't evidence that he isn't as involved as he was in 2009.

I don't have much of a defense against the plausible deniability that he uses in post-game press conferences, other than he's always done that, like his whole career. Taking that on it's face now seems a bit disingenuous.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Dlew12 on December 13, 2017, 02:09:44 PM
Bill went to a lot of wooly basketball games so a Skylar Thomas/Thompson slip is almost expected.
yeah but he called him taylor.  could he have gotten him confused with shortlived KSU great Val Taylor? 

I asked for reasoning as to why people say he isn't as involved, shooter gave as good of a reason as I've seen but is still conjecture. I sit directly behind the bench and three times in the last two seasons I've been on the sideline, I've seen no evidence to indicate any change in that time to how LHC Bill Snyder runs his program. I'm holding on to this as fact because there's absolutely zero concrete evidence to the contrary, not seeing him moving his lips when he's on camera isn't close to enough.
Yeah man, your awesome seats are cool and all, but we're both ultimately basing our opinions on conjecture -- which is fine because this is a sports message board..  You asked why i don't think he's as involved anymore and I told you that i'm basing my opinions on his health, his age, and his press-conference comments where he basically admits to being out of the loop.  You think that evidence is trash, which i fully understand. 

You have your opinion and I have mine.

None of that is trash, it's more likely to be fact than not, it just isn't evidence that he isn't as involved as he was in 2009.

I don't have much of a defense against the plausible deniability that he uses in post-game press conferences, other than he's always done that, like his whole career. Taking that on it's face now seems a bit disingenuous.
Maybe so, although I never recall him admitting that he didn't know why certain plays were called (like he did this year...though i can't remember which game).  But even so, those comments alarm me more now than they would have when he was a younger man.  Maybe that's ageism.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: MakeItRain on December 13, 2017, 02:12:04 PM
i've known MIR for like, 10 years guys.  we're just having a bbs argument.  chill out.

 :lol: no one cares about those two idiots. Meow meow has literally 7500 posts of not having an opinion on anything, just contributions exactly like he provided here. It's a hell of a mark he's left here.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: MakeItRain on December 13, 2017, 02:16:23 PM
Bill went to a lot of wooly basketball games so a Skylar Thomas/Thompson slip is almost expected.
yeah but he called him taylor.  could he have gotten him confused with shortlived KSU great Val Taylor? 

I asked for reasoning as to why people say he isn't as involved, shooter gave as good of a reason as I've seen but is still conjecture. I sit directly behind the bench and three times in the last two seasons I've been on the sideline, I've seen no evidence to indicate any change in that time to how LHC Bill Snyder runs his program. I'm holding on to this as fact because there's absolutely zero concrete evidence to the contrary, not seeing him moving his lips when he's on camera isn't close to enough.
Yeah man, your awesome seats are cool and all, but we're both ultimately basing our opinions on conjecture -- which is fine because this is a sports message board..  You asked why i don't think he's as involved anymore and I told you that i'm basing my opinions on his health, his age, and his press-conference comments where he basically admits to being out of the loop.  You think that evidence is trash, which i fully understand. 

You have your opinion and I have mine.

None of that is trash, it's more likely to be fact than not, it just isn't evidence that he isn't as involved as he was in 2009.

I don't have much of a defense against the plausible deniability that he uses in post-game press conferences, other than he's always done that, like his whole career. Taking that on it's face now seems a bit disingenuous.
Maybe so, although I never recall him admitting that he didn't know why certain plays were called (like he did this year...though i can't remember which game).  But even so, those comments alarm me more now than they would have when he was a younger man.  Maybe that's ageism.

That's fair enough, I agree with you more than I disagree. I want to circle back to my objection; it's not that some fear that he's lost his fastball, it's more than fair to suspect/fear that. My objection is something you haven't done and that's state that he isn't running the program, he's just a paterno like figurehead, shitting his pants, sitting in a press box doing word searches.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Dlew12 on December 13, 2017, 02:32:58 PM
Maybe so, although I never recall him admitting that he didn't know why certain plays were called (like he did this year...though i can't remember which game).  But even so, those comments alarm me more now than they would have when he was a younger man.  Maybe that's ageism.

That's fair enough, I agree with you more than I disagree. I want to circle back to my objection; it's not that some fear that he's lost his fastball, it's more than fair to suspect/fear that. My objection is something you haven't done and that's state that he isn't running the program, he's just a paterno like figurehead, shitting his pants, sitting in a press box doing word searches.

Right.  I'm not contending it's reached that point, but I think it's probably moving in that direction. The reports of infighting and politicking among the staff this season made me ask "who the hell is in charge of this thing?"  As far as I recall, that was new this year.  Sure you can point to the exodus in '98 and the wild staff scenes that apparently happened then, but I think this is obviously different than that.   The "tight ship" that Snyder is known for didn't appear as tight this year (both with players and staff), and I think that evidences a lack of leadership. 

I do suspect that Snyder is becoming more and more of a figurehead.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: michigancat on December 13, 2017, 02:41:39 PM
I remember him confusing Waters and Sams way back in 2013, I think on the LHC Bill Snyder show. He also acted like he had no idea why one played over the other.

Also I've never thought he's run a "tight ship" in 2.0
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: chum1 on December 13, 2017, 02:46:11 PM
Q: Coach, why didn't we do more of this instead of that?

A: I have no idea. We probably should have.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: meow meow on December 13, 2017, 02:54:31 PM
unless Darnell McDonald has eaten some of your food, just stfu already damn
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: wetwillie on December 13, 2017, 03:03:35 PM
m^2 is killing it right now my goodness
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: MakeItRain on December 13, 2017, 03:39:14 PM
Maybe so, although I never recall him admitting that he didn't know why certain plays were called (like he did this year...though i can't remember which game).  But even so, those comments alarm me more now than they would have when he was a younger man.  Maybe that's ageism.

That's fair enough, I agree with you more than I disagree. I want to circle back to my objection; it's not that some fear that he's lost his fastball, it's more than fair to suspect/fear that. My objection is something you haven't done and that's state that he isn't running the program, he's just a paterno like figurehead, shitting his pants, sitting in a press box doing word searches.

Right.  I'm not contending it's reached that point, but I think it's probably moving in that direction. The reports of infighting and politicking among the staff this season made me ask "who the hell is in charge of this thing?"  As far as I recall, that was new this year.  Sure you can point to the exodus in '98 and the wild staff scenes that apparently happened then, but I think this is obviously different than that.   The "tight ship" that Snyder is known for didn't appear as tight this year (both with players and staff), and I think that evidences a lack of leadership. 

I do suspect that Snyder is becoming more and more of a figurehead.

If some of the infighting can be attributed to Dana angling for work while in season, it's exactly the same. 1998, by the way, another reason to push away from Venables.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: 'taterblast on December 13, 2017, 03:46:31 PM
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: resident LibBot dick holder on December 13, 2017, 04:16:32 PM
Awesome
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: everyone shut up on December 13, 2017, 04:51:16 PM
12 year old me appreciates the name mike cox
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: MadCat on December 13, 2017, 07:05:09 PM
Also Jake Waters to be a receivers coach:
https://sports.yahoo.com/dana-dimel-goes-heavy-texas-214534463.html (https://sports.yahoo.com/dana-dimel-goes-heavy-texas-214534463.html)
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Joker on December 13, 2017, 07:07:21 PM
Sure hope the scout team is ready for a shred-fest.


Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: everyone shut up on December 13, 2017, 07:14:07 PM
Congrats jake from iowa state farm
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: LickNeckey on December 13, 2017, 07:40:35 PM
My favorite part of this offseason is the fact that FSU has their starting quarterback get hurt and go from National Title contenders to a .500 team whose best win was maybe Wake Forest.

Jimbo Translates that into a 7.5 million dollar a year job.

We have two QB's go down are competitive in every game but TCU win 4 of our last 5 and beat a top 15 team on the road down the stretch.

 :confused: :confused: :confused:
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: pvegs on December 13, 2017, 09:13:23 PM
My favorite part of this offseason is the fact that FSU has their starting quarterback get hurt and go from National Title contenders to a .500 team whose best win was maybe Wake Forest.

Jimbo Translates that into a 7.5 million dollar a year job.

We have two QB's go down are competitive in every game but TCU win 4 of our last 5 and beat a top 15 team on the road down the stretch.

 :confused: :confused: :confused:

this is a good point. it's almost like we have good players/coaching, despite our collective bitching.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: wetwillie on December 13, 2017, 10:08:31 PM
What on earth are you guys going on about?
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: 'taterblast on December 13, 2017, 11:07:59 PM
My favorite part of this offseason is the fact that FSU has their starting quarterback get hurt and go from National Title contenders to a .500 team whose best win was maybe Wake Forest.

Jimbo Translates that into a 7.5 million dollar a year job.

We have two QB's go down are competitive in every game but TCU win 4 of our last 5 and beat a top 15 team on the road down the stretch.

 :confused: :confused: :confused:

the vanderbilt crap show was prior to any injury issues, and that was the worst loss in a long time for snyder. however, i enjoy the point you're making.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: MakeItRain on December 15, 2017, 10:46:03 AM
Brent, publicly anyway, is an unconfident loser who shouldn't be interviewed for any P5 head coaching job.
http://www.kansas.com/sports/college/big-12/kansas-state/article189924459.html
Without even knowing if he's even interested in becoming coach here, I'm now off of my stance that Brent and Sean are essentially the same candidate, Sean is clearly better.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: ChiCat on December 15, 2017, 10:52:12 AM
I would thinking standing in your dad's shadow for 20 years shows a bigger lack of confidence
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: GregKSU1027 on December 15, 2017, 10:58:22 AM
Brent, publicly anyway, is an unconfident loser who shouldn't be interviewed for any P5 head coaching job.
http://www.kansas.com/sports/college/big-12/kansas-state/article189924459.html
Without even knowing if he's even interested in becoming coach here, I'm now off of my stance that Brent and Sean are essentially the same candidate, Sean is clearly better.
HE IS BLUFFING, HE CAN'T OUTRIGHT SAY HE WANTS A P5 job or KState straight up. He would look like an ass if he did. Sit Down, Be Humble.

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Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: MakeItRain on December 15, 2017, 11:01:48 AM
I would thinking standing in your dad's shadow for 20 years shows a bigger lack of confidence

Not if the narrative is that he's being groomed. Despite the ridiculous argument otherwise, being here learning from LHC Bill Snyder is clearly better than leaving to be a head coach in the MAC or Sun Belt.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on December 15, 2017, 11:03:03 AM
Brent, publicly anyway, is an unconfident loser who shouldn't be interviewed for any P5 head coaching job.
http://www.kansas.com/sports/college/big-12/kansas-state/article189924459.html
Without even knowing if he's even interested in becoming coach here, I'm now off of my stance that Brent and Sean are essentially the same candidate, Sean is clearly better.
HE IS BLUFFING, HE CAN'T OUTRIGHT SAY HE WANTS A P5 job or KState straight up. He would look like an ass if he did. Sit Down, Be Humble.

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I read between the lines and the bluffing is obvious.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: MakeItRain on December 15, 2017, 11:09:46 AM
Brent, publicly anyway, is an unconfident loser who shouldn't be interviewed for any P5 head coaching job.
http://www.kansas.com/sports/college/big-12/kansas-state/article189924459.html
Without even knowing if he's even interested in becoming coach here, I'm now off of my stance that Brent and Sean are essentially the same candidate, Sean is clearly better.
HE IS BLUFFING, HE CAN'T OUTRIGHT SAY HE WANTS A P5 job or KState straight up. He would look like an ass if he did. Sit Down, Be Humble.

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 :lol:

You serious? Find me a quote from a current head coach where they express doubt in their desire to be a head coach, you won't. Just take the guy's word at face value, don't attribute some odd, unearned nobility to what he says.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: MakeItRain on December 15, 2017, 11:10:50 AM
Brent, publicly anyway, is an unconfident loser who shouldn't be interviewed for any P5 head coaching job.
http://www.kansas.com/sports/college/big-12/kansas-state/article189924459.html
Without even knowing if he's even interested in becoming coach here, I'm now off of my stance that Brent and Sean are essentially the same candidate, Sean is clearly better.
HE IS BLUFFING, HE CAN'T OUTRIGHT SAY HE WANTS A P5 job or KState straight up. He would look like an ass if he did. Sit Down, Be Humble.

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I read between the lines and the bluffing is obvious.

What would be the point of that? What does it accomplish?
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: wetwillie on December 15, 2017, 11:13:14 AM
Your whole beef with venzy is that he is from Salina and I won't stand by and let you smear his good name
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: GregKSU1027 on December 15, 2017, 11:19:26 AM
He is doing it so that way when he sees that Snyder has officially hung it up. When he gets the call he will already have the U-Haul ready to move to MHK and will be neighbors/best buds with Bob Stoops.

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Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: GregKSU1027 on December 15, 2017, 11:19:50 AM
He is doing it so that way when he sees that Snyder has officially hung it up. When he gets the call he will already have the U-Haul ready to move to MHK and will be neighbors/best buds with Bob Stoops.

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He is waiting for the KSU job.

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Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: ChiCat on December 15, 2017, 11:23:33 AM
I would thinking standing in your dad's shadow for 20 years shows a bigger lack of confidence

Not if the narrative is that he's being groomed. Despite the ridiculous argument otherwise, being here learning from LHC Bill Snyder is clearly better than leaving to be a head coach in the MAC or Sun Belt.

I don't know how you can say that Sean staying at K-State and working for his dad as a Special Teams Coordinator for 20 years somehow shows more confidence than Venzy being the DC for two different National Championship programs for 20 years.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: pissclams on December 15, 2017, 11:35:09 AM
I would thinking standing in your dad's shadow for 20 years shows a bigger lack of confidence

Not if the narrative is that he's being groomed. Despite the ridiculous argument otherwise, being here learning from LHC Bill Snyder is clearly better than leaving to be a head coach in the MAC or Sun Belt.
why does that same argument not apply to venables?  last week your opinion was he should go to a non p5 hc job. 
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: meow meow on December 15, 2017, 11:36:22 AM
it's like you guys forget mir stood on the sidelines with Darnell McDonald that one time (and let him eat his food)
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 15, 2017, 11:42:47 AM
@MakeItRain Herm silver backed someone at ASU to get what he wanted coordinator wise
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: meow meow on December 15, 2017, 11:47:15 AM
@MakeItRain Herm silver backed someone at ASU to get what he wanted coordinator wise

He wanted to keep Phil Bennett, but Bennett is leaving for personal reasons
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 15, 2017, 11:51:00 AM
I had no idea he was even there? Is his next move for the Qatz?
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: meow meow on December 15, 2017, 12:00:23 PM
I had no idea he was even there? Is his next move for the Qatz?

i doubt it given his history here with his wife
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Joker on December 15, 2017, 12:13:33 PM
Brent, publicly anyway, is an unconfident loser who shouldn't be interviewed for any P5 head coaching job.
http://www.kansas.com/sports/college/big-12/kansas-state/article189924459.html
Without even knowing if he's even interested in becoming coach here, I'm now off of my stance that Brent and Sean are essentially the same candidate, Sean is clearly better.

I took the comments about following Bill as mostly respect for what Snyder has accomplished.  The other stuff about being a HC in general lines up exactly with what he has stated in previous interviews.

I see a guy who is very comfortable with being a coordinator and really doesn't have the drive or desire to be calling all the shots.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: michigancat on December 15, 2017, 01:04:48 PM
@MakeItRain Herm silver backed someone at ASU to get what he wanted coordinator wise

well, Napier is going to be HC at Louisiana Lafayette. So Dimel could have gone to ASU if he didn't get UTEP and Herm had offered.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: MakeItRain on December 15, 2017, 02:02:51 PM
I would thinking standing in your dad's shadow for 20 years shows a bigger lack of confidence

Not if the narrative is that he's being groomed. Despite the ridiculous argument otherwise, being here learning from LHC Bill Snyder is clearly better than leaving to be a head coach in the MAC or Sun Belt.

I don't know how you can say that Sean staying at K-State and working for his dad as a Special Teams Coordinator for 20 years somehow shows more confidence than Venzy being the DC for two different National Championship programs for 20 years.

I'm not saying that. I'm saying that if you hold the opinion that Bill has been grooming Sean to take over this specific job, that's more relevant than going somewhere else where you aren't getting that mentoring. It isn't groundbreaking. If you're going to be the CEO of Citibank would you be more ready for that position if you were the vice president of banking but you work closely with the current CEO ever-y-day or would you be more ready if you were the current CEO of K-State Bank and its four branches?

The confidence thing is completely different. I can't think of another P5 coordinator that openly states a hesitancy to becoming a head coach. How anyone feels about Venables aside, it's unique that he keeps doing it. This coupled with he's about to go into his 20th season as a defensive coordinator at a very high level program should lead people to believe that he's doing what he wants to do, which by the way, is okay.

I know why people are doing it, but I'm fascinated by people completely ignoring his words and actions.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Dlew12 on December 15, 2017, 02:06:57 PM
It's not like Brent isn't also working in close proximity to a great coach.  Brent's job just has more responsibility and accountability than Sean's.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: MakeItRain on December 15, 2017, 02:08:08 PM
I would thinking standing in your dad's shadow for 20 years shows a bigger lack of confidence

Not if the narrative is that he's being groomed. Despite the ridiculous argument otherwise, being here learning from LHC Bill Snyder is clearly better than leaving to be a head coach in the MAC or Sun Belt.
why does that same argument not apply to venables?  last week your opinion was he should go to a non p5 hc job.

That isn't what I said at all. There are people saying that they think Sean should go somewhere else to be a head coach first, my argument is that if you think Sean should do that you should think Brent should too.

I don't think either should or needs to, either they will be a good head coach or won't be. It's been proven time after time that group of 5 success isn't a magic bullet to success at a P5. Hell we have examples of coaches doing well at one P5 but doing worse at another equal P5 school.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: MakeItRain on December 15, 2017, 02:09:45 PM
It's not like Brent isn't also working in close proximity to a great coach.  Brent's job just has more responsibility and accountability than Sean's.

Is this supposed to be a rebuttal of my post?
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Shooter Jones on December 15, 2017, 02:15:38 PM
Brent has the best resume of any assistant coach (that has not been a head coach) in entire college football community.

Like anyone with the best resume to be a CEO (that has not been a CEO) in the entire industry they're applying for.

Now whether these people are the best fit, is a different angle.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: MakeItRain on December 15, 2017, 02:26:53 PM
Brent has the best resume of any assistant coach (that has not been a head coach) in entire college football community.

Like anyone with the best resume to be a CEO (that has not been a CEO) in the entire industry they're applying for.

Now whether these people are the best fit, is a different angle.

Your point about Brent is true. Why don't you consider your last sentence when pushing your anti-seanite agenda?
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Shooter Jones on December 15, 2017, 02:39:55 PM
Brent has the best resume of any assistant coach (that has not been a head coach) in entire college football community.

Like anyone with the best resume to be a CEO (that has not been a CEO) in the entire industry they're applying for.

Now whether these people are the best fit, is a different angle.

Your point about Brent is true. Why don't you consider your last sentence when pushing your anti-seanite agenda?

I mean, I could honestly get behind Sean if you told me his staff beforehand. And it was a quality P5 staff, with quality minds and proven recruiters. My whole anti-sean stance is moreso based on that, his staff. Like he gets the CEO spot, who would be willing to come in and work under someone they believe they're more qualified than? K-State would more than likely have to catch lightning in a bottle with unproven coordinators by promoting position coaches and I think it's a recipe for disaster.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Dlew12 on December 15, 2017, 02:52:21 PM
Brent has the best resume of any assistant coach (that has not been a head coach) in entire college football community.

Like anyone with the best resume to be a CEO (that has not been a CEO) in the entire industry they're applying for.

Now whether these people are the best fit, is a different angle.

Your point about Brent is true. Why don't you consider your last sentence when pushing your anti-seanite agenda?

I mean, I could honestly get behind Sean if you told me his staff beforehand. And it was a quality P5 staff, with quality minds and proven recruiters. My whole anti-sean stance is moreso based on that, his staff. Like he gets the CEO spot, who would be willing to come in and work under someone they believe they're more qualified than? K-State would more than likely have to catch lightning in a bottle with unproven coordinators by promoting position coaches and I think it's a recipe for disaster.
mike stoops appears to be ok with it.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: MakeItRain on December 15, 2017, 03:05:15 PM
Brent has the best resume of any assistant coach (that has not been a head coach) in entire college football community.

Like anyone with the best resume to be a CEO (that has not been a CEO) in the entire industry they're applying for.

Now whether these people are the best fit, is a different angle.

Your point about Brent is true. Why don't you consider your last sentence when pushing your anti-seanite agenda?

I mean, I could honestly get behind Sean if you told me his staff beforehand. And it was a quality P5 staff, with quality minds and proven recruiters. My whole anti-sean stance is moreso based on that, his staff. Like he gets the CEO spot, who would be willing to come in and work under someone they believe they're more qualified than? K-State would more than likely have to catch lightning in a bottle with unproven coordinators by promoting position coaches and I think it's a recipe for disaster.

I think most coaches coming here will need to fill their staffs with young, unproven, but hungry position coaches. Frankly that's what we need too. We will not be able to be a developmental program after Bill leaves, we're going to need talent, I'm less interested in the future staffs ability to develop than I am in their ability to identify and land talent.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: LickNeckey on December 15, 2017, 03:49:27 PM
Brent has the best resume of any assistant coach (that has not been a head coach) in entire college football community.

Like anyone with the best resume to be a CEO (that has not been a CEO) in the entire industry they're applying for.

Now whether these people are the best fit, is a different angle.

I would argue that Aranda and Bud Foster are on par if not better but yeah.

also who hires Kendall Briles and when
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: DOD Take 2 on December 15, 2017, 04:19:25 PM
Brent has the best resume of any assistant coach (that has not been a head coach) in entire college football community.

Like anyone with the best resume to be a CEO (that has not been a CEO) in the entire industry they're applying for.

Now whether these people are the best fit, is a different angle.

Your point about Brent is true. Why don't you consider your last sentence when pushing your anti-seanite agenda?

I mean, I could honestly get behind Sean if you told me his staff beforehand. And it was a quality P5 staff, with quality minds and proven recruiters. My whole anti-sean stance is moreso based on that, his staff. Like he gets the CEO spot, who would be willing to come in and work under someone they believe they're more qualified than? K-State would more than likely have to catch lightning in a bottle with unproven coordinators by promoting position coaches and I think it's a recipe for disaster.
mike stoops appears to be ok with it.

This is slightly misleading. He didn’t sign up to work under Riley, it happened to him. I also don’t consider Mike to be a very good DC today.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: MakeItRain on December 15, 2017, 04:41:48 PM
There's no way Mike Stoops would have followed Lincoln Riley to another job, and dlew absolutely knows that.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Pete on December 15, 2017, 06:50:00 PM
Brent, publicly anyway, is an unconfident loser who shouldn't be interviewed for any P5 head coaching job.
http://www.kansas.com/sports/college/big-12/kansas-state/article189924459.html
Without even knowing if he's even interested in becoming coach here, I'm now off of my stance that Brent and Sean are essentially the same candidate, Sean is clearly better.


You are so full of crap.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Pete on December 15, 2017, 06:51:14 PM
Sean is the only one of the two who wants the job, and he is far worse.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Pete on December 15, 2017, 06:52:35 PM
But, if you told me we could have Brent as DC if Sean was HC, I’d be fine with that.  I have zero faith in Sean, but Brent might salvage it.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: michigancat on December 15, 2017, 07:01:18 PM
Brent, publicly anyway, is an unconfident loser who shouldn't be interviewed for any P5 head coaching job.
http://www.kansas.com/sports/college/big-12/kansas-state/article189924459.html
Without even knowing if he's even interested in becoming coach here, I'm now off of my stance that Brent and Sean are essentially the same candidate, Sean is clearly better.


You are so full of crap.
I'll admit his resilience with this schtick almost makes it feel genuine
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: MakeItRain on December 15, 2017, 10:02:57 PM
Brent, publicly anyway, is an unconfident loser who shouldn't be interviewed for any P5 head coaching job.
http://www.kansas.com/sports/college/big-12/kansas-state/article189924459.html
Without even knowing if he's even interested in becoming coach here, I'm now off of my stance that Brent and Sean are essentially the same candidate, Sean is clearly better.


You are so full of crap.

You probably were that dude who still followed girls around after they told you to get mumped, not my style.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: MakeItRain on December 15, 2017, 10:06:36 PM
We're back on this tired old Sean/Brent topic again when neither is going to coach here, I'll take the blame for that. New topic.

Let's say Jim Tressel didn't go to Ohio State, but Michigan State instead, does he win a national championship? How many Big 10 titles?
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: michigancat on December 15, 2017, 11:59:58 PM


We're back on this tired old Sean/Brent topic again when neither is going to coach here, I'll take the blame for that. New topic.

Let's say Jim Tressel didn't go to Ohio State, but Michigan State instead, does he win a national championship? How many Big 10 titles?

Could he get Maurice Clarett to Michigan State? If not, he'd have zero titles there. He probably wouldn't have any at Ohio State without Clarett either. I mean his title year had quite a bit of luck IIRC.

I have no idea how many Big 10 titles he had or what the rest of the league was like when he was there, but I'm guessing he could have had a few considering Michigan and Penn State weren't great. Of course you'd need to consider who Ohio State hired instead of Tressel in that scenario.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: MakeItRain on December 16, 2017, 02:16:34 AM


We're back on this tired old Sean/Brent topic again when neither is going to coach here, I'll take the blame for that. New topic.

Let's say Jim Tressel didn't go to Ohio State, but Michigan State instead, does he win a national championship? How many Big 10 titles?

Could he get Maurice Clarett to Michigan State? If not, he'd have zero titles there. He probably wouldn't have any at Ohio State without Clarett either. I mean his title year had quite a bit of luck IIRC.

I have no idea how many Big 10 titles he had or what the rest of the league was like when he was there, but I'm guessing he could have had a few considering Michigan and Penn State weren't great. Of course you'd need to consider who Ohio State hired instead of Tressel in that scenario.

They had a relationship dating back pretty far before Tressel got to OSU from when both were at Youngstown, so I'd say yes. I was kind of speaking more generally instead of the specific situation though. Was Tressel good enough of a coach coming out of Youngstown to make a program like Michigan State a winner?
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: sonofdaxjones on December 16, 2017, 06:07:50 AM
Reading through the contracts Currie must have crushed the lifetime job for Sean clause from Snyder 1.0’s contracts. 

I really can’t believe people are actually going to entertain this textbook nepotism.   

Particularly in light of a 3 season .592 winning %.   
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: MakeItRain on December 16, 2017, 04:13:38 PM
So, no one wants to play my game. :cry:

I asked because Tressel was a successful coach who went from FCS to FBS but P5 teams have not gone that route since, Mike London is the only one I can think of. Craig Bohl felt like he had to take a bad group of 5 job. Chris Klieman has been a part of five national championships and playing for a sixth this year. Would any of you be happy if we took a chance on him in the future? It's interesting to me that these dudes aren't getting a crack at a decent job.

He coached at KU in 1997 maybe they'll make him an offer after they gas their coach next year.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Trim on December 16, 2017, 04:31:10 PM
I'm Saban/Swinney/Urban or bust now.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: michigancat on December 16, 2017, 04:40:11 PM
So, no one wants to play my game. :cry:

I asked because Tressel was a successful coach who went from FCS to FBS but P5 teams have not gone that route since, Mike London is the only one I can think of. Craig Bohl felt like he had to take a bad group of 5 job. Chris Klieman has been a part of five national championships and playing for a sixth this year. Would any of you be happy if we took a chance on him in the future? It's interesting to me that these dudes aren't getting a crack at a decent job.

He coached at KU in 1997 maybe they'll make him an offer after they gas their coach next year.
I wouldn't be opposed to it but I'd like to know more about where most of his players are. One huge advantage Tressel had is he'd already been recruiting the same primary region he'd recruited at YSU. That largely would have applied for Tressel at MSU, too, but he'd have to contend with whoever Ohio State hired instead of him which probably would have limited his theoretical success at MSU (in addition to Cooper leaving behind decent talent than Bobby Williams or even Saban).
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Trim on December 16, 2017, 08:13:18 PM
http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2017/12/behind_closed_doors_good_coach.html
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: ChiCat on December 18, 2017, 10:04:27 AM
So, no one wants to play my game. :cry:

I asked because Tressel was a successful coach who went from FCS to FBS but P5 teams have not gone that route since, Mike London is the only one I can think of. Craig Bohl felt like he had to take a bad group of 5 job. Chris Klieman has been a part of five national championships and playing for a sixth this year. Would any of you be happy if we took a chance on him in the future? It's interesting to me that these dudes aren't getting a crack at a decent job.

He coached at KU in 1997 maybe they'll make him an offer after they gas their coach next year.

I don't know a whole lot about the current JMU or NDSU head coaches but they're probably worth a look
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: michigancat on December 18, 2017, 10:54:37 AM
Did Klieman coach for Terry Allen? That would be another FCS to P5 jump!
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Cire on December 18, 2017, 11:36:23 AM
http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2017/12/behind_closed_doors_good_coach.html

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When Orgeron got a chance to interview for another SEC head coach job, he didn't make LSU athletic director Joe Alleva get in a football stance. He had learned from the mistakes of his disastrous Ole Miss tenure and knew he had to sell the search committee on that enlightenment if he was going to get the full-time job. He created two binders on how to build a championship program at LSU full of things he learned along the way including at USC under Pete Carroll. It "blew away" the search committee and he got the job after Tom Herman opted for Austin over Baton Rouge
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Joker on December 18, 2017, 11:40:23 AM
Staying at Oregon.


Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Shooter Jones on December 18, 2017, 12:01:12 PM
he looks old AF in that pic.

Wonder if the K-State clause is in the new contract.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: manpow5 on December 18, 2017, 12:46:11 PM
Two of the highest paid cordinators in college football are K-State guys.... can we just make Leavitt HC and bring BV back and let him do his DC job here? He doesn't need to be the HC, just get him here. Give Levitt 3 mil a year and BV 2 mil a year and we'll plug in coaches for $200-800K where we need. Give Sean the ST gig. Put the renovations on hold and break open Curries old piggy bank and make it happen.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: BackPayne on December 18, 2017, 12:52:17 PM
I would donate more for this ^^^ to happen.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Shooter Jones on December 18, 2017, 01:06:32 PM
The absolute best situation for K-State football ever. (you can obviously think differently)

After the CFP, Hayes and Bill both retire. You double Venables salary to 3.4 to be HC here, he gets to make OC and DC hires. Give both Bill and Bob Stoops "special advisor" positions. Bill's son gets to remain STC, Brent's son comes as a LB, Bob's boys are walk ons.

This is how to transition the program culture, but keep the stupid ass "family" feel.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: meow meow on December 18, 2017, 01:37:06 PM
how much do you pay the guy to hold Venzy back?
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: wetwillie on December 18, 2017, 01:55:12 PM
I'd do it for free
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Whisker Biscuit on December 18, 2017, 02:28:27 PM
The absolute best situation for K-State football ever. (you can obviously think differently)

After the CFP, Hayes and Bill both retire. You double Venables salary to 3.4 to be HC here, he gets to make OC and DC hires. Give both Bill and Bob Stoops "special advisor" positions. Bill's son gets to remain STC, Brent's son comes as a LB, Bob's boys are walk ons.

This is how to transition the program culture, but keep the stupid ass "family" feel.

Honest question:  what do you do for a living?  Because you should absolutely be KSU AD.  Seriously.  If you haven't considered it, quit your day job and walk right into UPGRM office and demand the position. 
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Shooter Jones on December 18, 2017, 02:35:55 PM
I'm an AD and I applied. The committee consisting of a rough ridin' football player, volleyball trainer, Dean of an irrelevant school, the CEO of some company, and I think a couple of students or just complete idiots like you decided to go a different direction.

I had energy and ideas. They wanted a sleepy old man that could be Bill's puppet.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: deputy dawg on December 18, 2017, 03:07:05 PM
I'm an AD and I applied. The committee consisting of a rough ridin' football player, volleyball trainer, Dean of an irrelevant school, the CEO of some company, and I think a couple of students or just complete idiots like you decided to go a different direction.

I had energy and ideas. They wanted a sleepy old man that could be Bill's puppet.

  :sdeek:
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: wetwillie on December 18, 2017, 03:24:25 PM
Well this is an interesting plot twist
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: pissclams on December 18, 2017, 03:31:55 PM
per university bylaws- amy button renz was on the committee.  the bylaw calls for her to be on every committee.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Whisker Biscuit on December 18, 2017, 03:33:05 PM
I'm an AD and I applied. The committee consisting of a rough ridin' football player, volleyball trainer, Dean of an irrelevant school, the CEO of some company, and I think a couple of students or just complete idiots like you decided to go a different direction.

I had energy and ideas. They wanted a sleepy old man that could be Bill's puppet.

I think i heard you call in to KK's radio show last week with all of the trades the Chiefs should consider making. 
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Trim on December 18, 2017, 03:34:53 PM
Tim Tebesar looked up and down and left and right and landed a gig at oregon state.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Shooter Jones on December 18, 2017, 03:50:38 PM
I'm an AD and I applied. The committee consisting of a rough ridin' football player, volleyball trainer, Dean of an irrelevant school, the CEO of some company, and I think a couple of students or just complete idiots like you decided to go a different direction.

I had energy and ideas. They wanted a sleepy old man that could be Bill's puppet.

I think i heard you call in to KK's radio show last week with all of the trades the Chiefs should consider making.

Wait, you think an AD and a GM are the same thing?  :lol:
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: resident LibBot dick holder on December 18, 2017, 04:42:03 PM
Embarrassing
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: wetwillie on December 18, 2017, 04:54:15 PM
I did a quick google search on shooter jones AD and nothing came back, I think he's full of crap
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: WillieWatanabe on December 18, 2017, 04:54:37 PM
:users:
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Whisker Biscuit on December 18, 2017, 05:05:39 PM
I'm an AD and I applied. The committee consisting of a rough ridin' football player, volleyball trainer, Dean of an irrelevant school, the CEO of some company, and I think a couple of students or just complete idiots like you decided to go a different direction.

I had energy and ideas. They wanted a sleepy old man that could be Bill's puppet.

I think i heard you call in to KK's radio show last week with all of the trades the Chiefs should consider making.

Wait, you think an AD and a GM are the same thing?  :lol:

Yes, I think an imaginary AD is the same as an imaginary GM.  You in your imaginary position are constantly concocting the most ridiculous scenarios in your mind and can't wait to share them with anyone that will listen.  Really love offering Bill and Bob "special advisor positions"...brilliant.  Also thought your idea of trading Kelce for Josh Norman, a 3rd round pick and some cash was excellent.  The 3 way team swap you mentioned earlier this year just prior to the baseball trade deadline was also spot on.  You were absolutely correct...Hosmer was the lynch pin to that deal.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Shooter Jones on December 18, 2017, 05:55:42 PM
:lol:
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 18, 2017, 07:33:40 PM
That improvement  :love:

Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: bones129 on December 18, 2017, 10:09:48 PM
per university bylaws- amy button renz was on the committee.  the bylaw calls for her to be on every committee.

So just what is her function on all these committees?
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: pissclams on December 18, 2017, 10:23:51 PM
to kick ass and take names, and k-state just ran out of name tags
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Demo158 on December 19, 2017, 01:31:02 AM
So the way Venzy tends to reiterate the whole "I'm happy as a Coordinator, not wanting the responsibility of a head coach" spiel, and lets say he actually means what he says, there's only one realistic scenario of Brent coming home. Dabo is clearly the heir apparent to take over at bama when Saban calls it a career and runs for governor of Alabama. Brent doesn't have the clout to be promoted to HC at Clemson. So theoretically I think the only thing that makes him pack up and come back to the sunflower state is if bama hires somebody Brent can't stand working with/for. If/when this happens, Brent could be courted by our next AD five years down the road, after Sean has a wildly mediocre five year run, and Bill dies. That being said, there would be a very good chance Brent would follow Dabo to bama. Regardless, until he actually says he wants to coach here, none of us should be holding out any hope...
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: MakeItRain on December 19, 2017, 03:53:11 AM
I don't think Saban is going anywhere anytime soon. I feel like he, like Snyder, Bear Bryant, Lombardi, Paterno, Woody Hayes, etc.; dudes that have no other interests, at all, other than football.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: deputy dawg on December 19, 2017, 08:05:29 AM
The absolute best situation for K-State football ever. (you can obviously think differently)

After the CFP, Hayes and Bill both retire. You double Venables salary to 3.4 to be HC here, he gets to make OC and DC hires. Give both Bill and Bob Stoops "special advisor" positions. Bill's son gets to remain STC, Brent's son comes as a LB, Bob's boys are walk ons.

This is how to transition the program culture, but keep the stupid ass "family" feel.

Holy cats, you substitute "Jim Harbaugh" and some high profile assistant names, and you'd think you were on the phog.  I can't believe we have come to this.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Shooter Jones on December 19, 2017, 09:38:22 AM
The absolute best situation for K-State football ever. (you can obviously think differently)

After the CFP, Hayes and Bill both retire. You double Venables salary to 3.4 to be HC here, he gets to make OC and DC hires. Give both Bill and Bob Stoops "special advisor" positions. Bill's son gets to remain STC, Brent's son comes as a LB, Bob's boys are walk ons.

This is how to transition the program culture, but keep the stupid ass "family" feel.

Holy cats, you substitute "Jim Harbaugh" and some high profile assistant names, and you'd think you were on the phog.  I can't believe we have come to this.

Meh, I was being sarcastic but I'll play along. Venables is an assistant coach that no one wants, Bob's boys will be in MHK in a few months, and he already has the advisor position at OU, not far fetched for Bill to have the same at K-State.

If you think this is the same as the Harbaugh thing, I will l-oh-l at you.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: meow meow on December 19, 2017, 09:43:12 AM
does bob have twin boys?  they are confirmed walking on at k-state next year?
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Shooter Jones on December 19, 2017, 09:49:55 AM
does bob have twin boys?  they are confirmed walking on at k-state next year?

Twins? Yes.
Confirmed? Not exactly. One is a much better recruit and actually has some FBS offers, so who knows what will happen before signing day.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Cire on December 19, 2017, 09:51:20 AM
One has an offer from Iowa.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: catastrophe on December 19, 2017, 01:07:35 PM
Could we offer a scholarship to the good one and have them pull the ol' switcheroo so the bad one takes the good one's scholarship at Iowa?
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 19, 2017, 03:22:35 PM
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: MadCat on December 19, 2017, 03:46:41 PM
Could we offer a scholarship to the good one and have them pull the ol' switcheroo so the bad one takes the good one's scholarship at Iowa?

The sell... Which is better: just one of you getting a D1 scholarship or both of you?   :Woot:
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: i poo crabs on December 23, 2017, 05:42:46 PM
Eric Hickson might be the new RB coach, vacated by Dana Dimel. Dalvin, Justin Silmon and Alex Barnes just followed him on twitter. Would make sense. He's currently the RB coach at Akron.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: wetwillie on December 23, 2017, 07:21:29 PM
Never heard of him
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: everyone shut up on December 23, 2017, 07:27:54 PM
You've never heard of RB Coach Eric Hickson from powerhouse Akron?
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: i poo crabs on December 23, 2017, 07:52:39 PM
you clowns need to take a course of good former KSU players. #5 in KSU all time rushing yards. Him and Mike Lawrence were a nice RB tandem.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: ELL3 on December 23, 2017, 07:55:09 PM
you clowns need to take a course of good former KSU players. #5 in KSU all time rushing yards. Him and Mike Lawrence were a nice RB tandem.

Pretty good back, top rb on 98 mega studly team
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Pete on December 23, 2017, 10:21:48 PM
Bring Mike Eckler back too!
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: WildcatNkilt on January 02, 2018, 10:36:04 PM
Rich Rod out at Arizona

http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/21946402/arizona-wildcats-fire-football-coach-rich-rodriguez (http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/21946402/arizona-wildcats-fire-football-coach-rich-rodriguez)
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on January 02, 2018, 10:58:41 PM
AMAZE

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Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: wetwillie on January 02, 2018, 11:19:59 PM
#metoo
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: LickNeckey on January 03, 2018, 11:39:52 AM
You've never heard of RB Coach Eric Hickson from powerhouse Akron?

 :facepalm:
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: CD on January 03, 2018, 01:35:34 PM
Who all is out there coaching in the college ranks that has coached under or played under Snyder? I can think of
Jim Leavitt-Oregon
Brent Venables- Clemson
Dana Dimel-UTEP
Mike Stoops-Oklahoma
Ricky Rahne -Penn State
Joe Bob Clements- OK State
Eric Wolford- South Carolina
Mike Cox- UTEP
Mike Ekeler -UNC
Jake Waters- UTEP
Eric Hickson- Akron
Johnathan Beasley- Tarleton State
Zach Hanson-UTEP
Mike Lawrence -Ave Maria University
Eric Gallon- Brevard College
Kody Cook - Hutch CC
Payton Kirk- Highland CC
Bret Bielema
Phill Bennett
Michael Smith
Matt Miller- Former Garden City CC
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 03, 2018, 02:15:56 PM
Jeff Kelly- D Coordinator at Ft Scott

http://www.fsgreyhounds.com/sports/fball/coaches/Past_Coaches/kelly_jeff?view=bio
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: MakeItRain on January 03, 2018, 02:56:20 PM
Jeff Kelly- D Coordinator at Ft Scott

http://www.fsgreyhounds.com/sports/fball/coaches/Past_Coaches/kelly_jeff?view=bio

I'm not sure that's been updated; as of November Jeff was running his own business in Denver.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 03, 2018, 02:58:33 PM
Oh wow, really? Surprised my boss never told me. He's best buds with him. Good for him though.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: meow meow on January 03, 2018, 02:59:54 PM
lol
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: MakeItRain on January 03, 2018, 03:05:41 PM
Oh wow, really? Surprised my boss never told me. He's best buds with him. Good for him though.

He certainly could have gotten that job since the season ended but as of a few weeks ago Jeff was definitely not coaching.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 03, 2018, 03:08:44 PM
Interesting. He had been doing it for awhile. At least while I've been at this job within the last 3 years. Thanks for the update.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: kearneymen on January 04, 2018, 07:07:20 AM
Who all is out there coaching in the college ranks that has coached under or played under Snyder? I can think of
Jim Leavitt-Oregon
Brent Venables- Clemson
Dana Dimel-UTEP
Mike Stoops-Oklahoma
Ricky Rahne -Penn State
Joe Bob Clements- OK State
Eric Wolford- South Carolina
Mike Cox- UTEP
Mike Ekeler -UNC
Jake Waters- UTEP
Eric Hickson- Akron
Johnathan Beasley- Tarleton State
Zach Hanson-UTEP
Mike Lawrence -Ave Maria University
Eric Gallon- Brevard College
Kody Cook - Hutch CC
Payton Kirk- Highland CC
Bret Bielema
Phill Bennett
Michael Smith
Matt Miller- Former Garden City CC

Sweet list CD!  Here are a few additions:

Jeff Kelly - former D Coordinator (I also didn't know he was out of the game... I would love to see him back at KSU)
Rock Cartwright - Assistant RB coach for Cleveland Browns
Victor Mann - Head Coach Omaha Beef (Indoor football)
Joe Gordon - High school head coach, former KSU, juco, NAIA, etc.
Manny Matsakis - Widener University O Coordinator
Michael Bishop - High school coach
Andre Rowe - former juco coach?
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: fightinsnydersksu on January 04, 2018, 08:07:38 AM
Brandon Clark is the HC at Derby

Love me a white WR #45
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: CopperBowl on January 04, 2018, 08:13:41 AM
Weird post
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: CD on January 04, 2018, 08:37:44 AM
More
Carl Pelini- Bowling Green
Tim Beck- Texas
Scotty Ohara- UTEP
Vic Koenning- Troy
Chris Cosh- Delaware
Jeff Schwinn- Washburn
Doug Grush- American River College
Charlie Coe- Missouri Baptist
Andy Ludwig
Rex Ryan
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: MakeItRain on January 04, 2018, 10:27:16 AM
More
Carl Pelini- Bowling Green
Tim Beck- Texas
Scotty Ohara- UTEP
Vic Koenning- Troy
Chris Cosh- Delaware
Jeff Schwinn- Washburn
Doug Grush- American River College
Charlie Coe- Missouri Baptist
Andy Ludwig
Rex Ryan

Come on with Andy Ludwig and Rex Ryan, they don't count man. I don't know who Charlie Coe, Doug Grush, and Scotty Ohara are, are they from Iowa? When did Tim Beck and Carl Pelini work for Bill?
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: CD on January 04, 2018, 10:54:50 AM
More
Carl Pelini- Bowling Green
Tim Beck- Texas
Scotty Ohara- UTEP
Vic Koenning- Troy
Chris Cosh- Delaware
Jeff Schwinn- Washburn
Doug Grush- American River College
Charlie Coe- Missouri Baptist
Andy Ludwig
Rex Ryan

Come on with Andy Ludwig and Rex Ryan, they don't count man. I don't know who Charlie Coe, Doug Grush, and Scotty Ohara are, are they from Iowa? When did Tim Beck and Carl Pelini work for Bill?

Yeah Ludwig and Ryan don't really count, but they were here for a bit.
Charlie Coe played at K-State in the 70's. Coached for Snyder in 1989
Doug Grush played at K-State in the eary 90's and was a GA after that
Scotty Ohara went with Dana to UTEP. He had been a quality control guy here and with Jerry Kill at Rutgers. Not sure if he really counts.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: MakeItRain on January 04, 2018, 11:31:46 AM
Thanks CD :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Chingon on January 04, 2018, 11:33:21 AM
Well its nice to have a list that contains all of the only possible KSU coaching/coordinator candidates for the next 50 years.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: CD on January 04, 2018, 02:19:44 PM
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: mhkpasa on January 04, 2018, 03:15:15 PM

His wife is the Executive Director of Recruiting for OU  :peek:
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: wetwillie on January 04, 2018, 03:35:15 PM


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Just two weeks ago, Football Scoop announced that Hanson was set to become the new offensive line coach for Dimel at UTEP. Sources tell us that stint was short lived after Hanson received a phone call with a similar offer from K-State.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: resident LibBot dick holder on January 04, 2018, 03:48:04 PM
Sean just teabagged dana
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: manpow5 on January 04, 2018, 04:03:52 PM
Sean just teabagged dana

 :ROFL:

If true, Sean just gained some brownie points. No idea if the dude can coach but giving Dimel the finger by hiring someone from out under him is fantastic.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: deputy dawg on January 04, 2018, 04:12:35 PM
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Just two weeks ago, Football Scoop announced that Hanson was set to become the new offensive line coach for Dimel at UTEP. Sources tell us that stint was short lived after Hanson received a phone call with a similar offer from K-State.

Hope he didn't sign any kind of contract.  Still a boss move by someone at KSU.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: [email protected] on January 04, 2018, 04:38:58 PM
Nothing says we will be cutting the 2 receptions in a year for TE like hiring a former OL to coach them.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: kearneymen on January 04, 2018, 09:17:39 PM
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Just two weeks ago, Football Scoop announced that Hanson was set to become the new offensive line coach for Dimel at UTEP. Sources tell us that stint was short lived after Hanson received a phone call with a similar offer from K-State.

Hope he didn't sign any kind of contract.  Still a boss move by someone at KSU.


If hiring a former GA to coach your TE's (who have caught about 10 passes in the last five years) away from UTEP is considered a boss move by a Power 5 school what do you call Texas A&M hiring Elko away from ND for $2 million / year?

To you naysayers: I am not saying that this is a bad hire... and I really like Hanson and wish him the best.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 04, 2018, 09:50:56 PM
What a douche bag. Thanks for nothing previous seniors.

Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Catchacold on January 04, 2018, 10:27:52 PM
More
Carl Pelini- Bowling Green
Tim Beck- Texas
Scotty Ohara- UTEP
Vic Koenning- Troy
Chris Cosh- Delaware
Jeff Schwinn- Washburn
Doug Grush- American River College
Charlie Coe- Missouri Baptist
Andy Ludwig
Rex Ryan
Jim Gush is DC at Navarro
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: mocat on January 04, 2018, 10:42:59 PM
Sean just teabagged dana

 :ROFL:

If true, Sean just gained some brownie points. No idea if the dude can coach but giving Dimel the finger by hiring someone from out under him is fantastic.

Hanson stepped foot in El Paso for the first time, and said "mmmmm nah"
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: SkinnyBenny on January 04, 2018, 11:40:08 PM
(http://www.risefeed.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/Hanson-Mmmbop-Gif.gif)
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: ChiCat on January 05, 2018, 08:44:42 AM
Quote
Just two weeks ago, Football Scoop announced that Hanson was set to become the new offensive line coach for Dimel at UTEP. Sources tell us that stint was short lived after Hanson received a phone call with a similar offer from K-State.

Hope he didn't sign any kind of contract.  Still a boss move by someone at KSU.


If hiring a former GA to coach your TE's (who have caught about 10 passes in the last five years) away from UTEP is considered a boss move by a Power 5 school what do you call Texas A&M hiring Elko away from ND for $2 million / year?

To you naysayers: I am not saying that this is a bad hire... and I really like Hanson and wish him the best.

A&M has been making nothing but boss moves this offseason.  They're still crazy, but they pulling up trucks to whoever the hell they want.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: 'taterblast on January 08, 2018, 04:49:55 PM
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on January 08, 2018, 06:08:19 PM
Wow, pulled him out of a high school gig.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: KST8FAN on January 08, 2018, 09:01:12 PM
http://www.chicagonow.com/prairie-state-pigskin/2018/01/fisher-leaves-western-for-arizona-state-leathernecks-promote-elliott-to-head-coach/

Herm takes my son's FCS coach as WR coach forcing Western to find its 2nd HC in three years.


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Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: SkinnyBenny on January 08, 2018, 09:06:39 PM
Sorry to hear that Tom




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Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: KST8FAN on January 08, 2018, 09:28:48 PM
He had four diff HC in 4 years.  It goes with the territory.

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Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: SkinnyBenny on January 09, 2018, 01:53:14 AM
He had four diff HC in 4 years.  It goes with the territory.

Tom

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Damn, that sucks. Feel bad for die-hard Leatherneck fans. However, at least they get the excitement of a coaching search nearly every year of their existence  :billdance:
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: 'taterblast on January 11, 2018, 11:14:04 AM
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Kansas State: Source tells FootballScoop Akron running backs coach Eric Hickson is expected to join the Kansas State staff. Hickson, the all-time rushing leader at K-State, has been at Akron since the 2015 season. He previously coached running backs and served as recruiting coordinator at Garden City and as OC and then head coach at Emmerich Manual High School (IN).
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: KSUfaithful on January 11, 2018, 11:36:14 AM
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Kansas State: Source tells FootballScoop Akron running backs coach Eric Hickson is expected to join the Kansas State staff. Hickson, the all-time rushing leader at K-State, has been at Akron since the 2015 season. He previously coached running backs and served as recruiting coordinator at Garden City and as OC and then head coach at Emmerich Manual High School (IN).

Interesting. Almost as if D. Sproles never played here.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: MadCat on January 11, 2018, 11:39:50 AM
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Kansas State: Source tells FootballScoop Akron running backs coach Eric Hickson is expected to join the Kansas State staff. Hickson, the all-time rushing leader at K-State, has been at Akron since the 2015 season. He previously coached running backs and served as recruiting coordinator at Garden City and as OC and then head coach at Emmerich Manual High School (IN).

Interesting. Almost as if D. Sproles never played here.
...or even the other guys:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kansas_State_Wildcats_football_statistical_leaders#Rushing (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kansas_State_Wildcats_football_statistical_leaders#Rushing)
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: michigancat on January 11, 2018, 11:42:06 AM
I mean, he was the all time leading rusher at one point and he probably just never updated his resume
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Catchacold on January 11, 2018, 11:58:01 AM
or FootballScoop stopped reading this sentence in his bio before the last two words:

Quote
The all-time leading rusher in Kansas State football history with 2,537 yards on 507 carries upon graduation
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: IPA4Me on January 23, 2018, 01:12:28 PM
Michael Smith to Kentucky

http://footballscoop.com/the-scoop-2/scoop-tuesday-january-23-2018/
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: SkinnyBenny on January 24, 2018, 12:20:21 AM
Guy at Lowe's in New Orleans saw my qats hat and told me about how he went to hike school with Michael Smith :cool:
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: HELLHAMMER on January 24, 2018, 08:12:30 AM
Michael Smith to Kentucky

http://footballscoop.com/the-scoop-2/scoop-tuesday-january-23-2018/
1990s cocaine habits are ties that bind.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: DaBigTrain on October 07, 2018, 08:12:35 PM
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: wetwillie on October 07, 2018, 08:23:24 PM
would take
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: I_have_purplewood on October 07, 2018, 10:08:51 PM
would take

It's all coming together;  Bobby, Mike, Magino and Venz..  Welcome back boys!!   :ksu: (ftp://:ksu:)
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: bucket on October 07, 2018, 10:21:54 PM
would take

It's all coming together;  Bobby, Mike, Magino and Venz..  Welcome back boys!!   :ksu: (ftp://:ksu:)

 :love:
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: bones129 on October 07, 2018, 11:34:43 PM
 :emawkid:
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: BackPayne on October 08, 2018, 07:03:51 AM
would take

It's all coming together;  Bobby, Mike, Magino and Venz..  Welcome back boys!!   :ksu: (ftp://:ksu:)

I now have purple wood!
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: IPA4Me on October 08, 2018, 08:15:39 PM
Better get the big donor money truck ready. Gonna be expensive with that list. Damn that would be fun.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: MakeItRain on October 09, 2018, 02:12:28 AM
would take

Either Mike Stoops or Brian VanGorder, I'm good with either
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: pissclams on October 09, 2018, 09:38:10 AM
i would not give this program to mike stoops without his brother bob joining the fray
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: wetwillie on October 09, 2018, 09:47:13 AM
He’s the bait for bob
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Katpappy on October 09, 2018, 11:12:05 AM
Check this HC for the Buffalo Bulls:


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lance_Leipold

Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: bshea85 on October 09, 2018, 11:21:54 AM
Check this HC for the Buffalo Bulls:


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lance_Leipold

I don't know... that University produced the likes of Turner Gill.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Katpappy on October 09, 2018, 08:43:04 PM
Check this HC for the Buffalo Bulls:


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lance_Leipold

I don't know... that University produced the likes of Turner Gill.

Yea, he's not a P5 coach.  I don't really know how good he would be at our level. 
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: MakeItRain on November 13, 2018, 09:21:47 AM
Colorado fired Mike McIntire :surprised:
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: slackcat on November 13, 2018, 10:19:36 AM
crap
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Trim on November 13, 2018, 10:21:28 AM
 :billdance:
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Brock Landers on November 13, 2018, 10:23:45 AM
Ooh Colorado, nice. The carousel is already picking up some steam!
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: ednksu on November 25, 2018, 09:12:47 PM
Weren't people here pretty high on (https://www.petersonhouse.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Fedora.jpg) ? 
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: michigancat on November 25, 2018, 10:29:49 PM
Weren't people here pretty high on (https://www.petersonhouse.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Fedora.jpg) ?
Looks like MiR was but goddam RIP 'zacker

If Venzy wants the job we should hire him. I don't care if he raped Jack.

Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Trim on November 25, 2018, 10:44:22 PM
:lol:
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: MakeItRain on November 25, 2018, 11:07:56 PM
I don't get the hat reference
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: michigancat on November 25, 2018, 11:09:49 PM
I don't get the hat reference
It's a Fedora
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: MakeItRain on November 25, 2018, 11:16:10 PM
Ugg, gross. His dumbass should have been fired immediately after his stupid ass comments about football and the military.
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Trim on November 26, 2018, 12:06:32 AM
Ugg, gross. His dumbass should have been fired immediately after his stupid ass comments about football and the military.

Haha.

do you guys think Larry Fedora is going to get one of these jobs?

He sure as hell should. What a stud!
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: SkinnyBenny on November 26, 2018, 02:20:08 AM
:surprised:
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: OK_Cat on November 26, 2018, 06:58:09 AM
Lol


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Title: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: catastrophe on November 26, 2018, 07:21:29 AM
Just FYI, putting that 2015 post next to MIR’s current complaint about Fedora makes you look very very stupid.
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: PurpleOil on November 26, 2018, 08:34:32 AM
I'm hearing Venables to Tech
Cambell will be at tOSU
LittreLL goes to North Carolina
and Klieman will be at KSU.

Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: wetwillie on November 26, 2018, 08:46:35 AM
I'm hearing Venables to Tech
Cambell will be at tOSU
LittreLL goes to North Carolina
and Klieman will be at KSU.



Delete your account
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Trim on November 26, 2018, 09:09:05 AM
Just FYI, putting that 2015 post next to MIR’s current complaint about Fedora makes you look very very stupid.

OK, I'll do some soul-searching.  In the meantime, go back to the first post on this page that has a picture of a fedora hat in it and read all the words there and in subsequent posts and click the links in them, and see if that helps.
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: catastrophe on November 26, 2018, 09:22:30 AM
My only complaint was the execution. I don’t really care whether MIR contradicted himself elsewhere.
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Shooter Jones on November 26, 2018, 09:25:07 AM
I'm hearing Venables to Tech
Cambell will be at tOSU
LittreLL goes to North Carolina
and Klieman will be at KSU.

Les Miles has as much chance of going to Lawrence as Harbaugh did back in 09... which was 0%.

Please feed us more insidery info you're hearing. TIA.
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: ednksu on November 26, 2018, 09:25:48 AM
I'm happy for Mack to go back to where he got his big break as HC.
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: catastrophe on November 26, 2018, 09:32:02 AM
My only complaint was the execution. I don’t really care whether MIR contradicted himself elsewhere.

Also apologies for the over grumpiness/severe case of the Mondays.
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 26, 2018, 09:36:45 AM
I'm hearing Venables to Tech
Cambell will be at tOSU
LittreLL goes to North Carolina
and Klieman will be at KSU.

Les Miles has as much chance of going to Lawrence as Harbaugh did back in 09... which was 0%.

Please feed us more insidery info you're hearing. TIA.
:lol:
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: PurpleOil on November 26, 2018, 10:32:40 AM
I'm hearing Venables to Tech
Cambell will be at tOSU
LittreLL goes to North Carolina
and Klieman will be at KSU.

Les Miles has as much chance of going to Lawrence as Harbaugh did back in 09... which was 0%.

Please feed us more insidery info you're hearing. TIA.
:lol:

 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Brock Landers on November 26, 2018, 11:01:50 AM
MIR's post was fine back in 2015 when Fedora was considered the next up and coming, hot piece of coaching ass.  He just didn't pan out.  I bet Fedora was was listed above the "burn it down" line?
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: ChiCat on November 26, 2018, 11:27:47 AM
Mack Brown reportedly close to returning to UNC.  Didn't see that coming
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: michigancat on November 26, 2018, 11:45:51 AM
MIR's post was fine back in 2015 when Fedora was considered the next up and coming, hot piece of coaching ass.  He just didn't pan out.  I bet Fedora was was listed above the "burn it down" line?
Literally everyone knew that already
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: chum1 on November 26, 2018, 12:05:59 PM
I think that particular pic of a hat is just confusing the hell out of everyone. It's a very ugly hat. I like it, though, and would wear it.
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on November 26, 2018, 12:37:13 PM
I'm hearing Venables to Tech
Cambell will be at tOSU
LittreLL goes to North Carolina
and Klieman will be at KSU.

Remind me again who Klieman is.
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: OK_Cat on November 26, 2018, 12:38:14 PM
I'm hearing Venables to Tech
Cambell will be at tOSU
LittreLL goes to North Carolina
and Klieman will be at KSU.

Remind me again who Klieman is.

North Dakota State


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Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: michigancat on November 26, 2018, 12:44:14 PM
I'm 95% sure I'll have to google our next coach in 2018. I mean, I had to google LittreLL already.
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on November 26, 2018, 12:45:41 PM
I'm hearing Venables to Tech
Cambell will be at tOSU
LittreLL goes to North Carolina
and Klieman will be at KSU.

Remind me again who Klieman is.

North Dakota State


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Oh, well then eff you, purple oil.
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on November 26, 2018, 12:55:37 PM
?s=19

 :crossfingers:
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: meow meow on November 26, 2018, 01:09:03 PM
so we have to wait at least 3 more years for Venzy?  if that's really the case, i'm fine with Leavitt and Pepsi for 3 years.
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Shooter Jones on November 26, 2018, 01:16:11 PM
People are going crazy over that tweet. I mean, what's he supposed to say if he's not interested in the Tech job?

Hey, I'm not happy at Clemson and want to get away from my son but the Tech job just isn't for me.

Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: MadCat on November 26, 2018, 01:34:22 PM
Sell him the dream of moving to the agricultural Midwest and playing a round-robin conference schedule.  :crossfingers:
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: bshea85 on November 26, 2018, 03:07:37 PM
I can't believe I missed this.  McPherson College fired their head football coach Mierkiewicz.  He's on the market.  Would be an A+ Family hire for KSU.

https://macbulldogs.com/news/2018/11/12/mierkiewicz-resigns-as-bulldog-football-coach.aspx
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: ChiCat on November 26, 2018, 03:08:05 PM
Venzy would have to really love Hocutt to go to Tech.  He would also have to really love K-State to come here.
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: michigancat on November 26, 2018, 03:44:23 PM
Venzy would have to really love Hocutt to go to Tech.  He would also have to really love K-State to come here.

OR LOTS OF PEOPLE THINK HE ISN'T READY FOR LIKE A TENNESSEE OR AUBURN TYPE JOB BECAUSE OF UNMENTIONABLE SINS OR SOMETHING
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: PurpleOil on November 26, 2018, 04:17:10 PM
I'm hearing Venables to Tech
Cambell will be at tOSU
LittreLL goes to North Carolina
and Klieman will be at KSU.

Remind me again who Klieman is.

North Dakota State


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Oh, well then eff you, purple oil.

I'm doing my BBS-ing best.
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: chum1 on November 26, 2018, 05:17:04 PM
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: chum1 on November 26, 2018, 05:18:56 PM
I hope that Bob Krause life insurance funny business didn't burn any bridges with Ron Prince.
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: catastrophe on November 26, 2018, 05:23:00 PM
Leach would be such a treat.
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: schreds21 on November 26, 2018, 06:50:35 PM
I can't believe I missed this.  McPherson College fired their head football coach Mierkiewicz.  He's on the market.  Would be an A+ Family hire for KSU.

https://macbulldogs.com/news/2018/11/12/mierkiewicz-resigns-as-bulldog-football-coach.aspx
Bethany got rid of their guy too, so we could have multiple options there.
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: michigancat on November 26, 2018, 11:21:57 PM
?s=19

@chingon what do you think of Gus at KSU since we might not get Bobby
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: MakeItRain on November 27, 2018, 12:47:44 AM
Venzy would have to really love Hocutt to go to Tech.  He would also have to really love K-State to come here.

OR LOTS OF PEOPLE THINK HE ISN'T READY FOR LIKE A TENNESSEE OR AUBURN TYPE JOB BECAUSE OF UNMENTIONABLE SINS OR SOMETHING

Is this actually a thing or just gpc/kso posters just talking crap? I've heard this since 2005 but no one actually saying any rumor. Did he supposedly do blow off of a vanier's ass?
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: michigancat on November 27, 2018, 12:59:56 AM


Venzy would have to really love Hocutt to go to Tech.  He would also have to really love K-State to come here.

OR LOTS OF PEOPLE THINK HE ISN'T READY FOR LIKE A TENNESSEE OR AUBURN TYPE JOB BECAUSE OF UNMENTIONABLE SINS OR SOMETHING

Is this actually a thing or just gpc/kso posters just talking crap? I've heard this since 2005 but no one actually saying any rumor. Did he supposedly do blow off of a vanier's ass?

I always thought Fitz was the origin and it was something like having sex with an underage girl/babysitter/Vanier daughter or something to that effect
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: pvegs on November 27, 2018, 01:02:02 AM
Venzy would have to really love Hocutt to go to Tech.  He would also have to really love K-State to come here.

OR LOTS OF PEOPLE THINK HE ISN'T READY FOR LIKE A TENNESSEE OR AUBURN TYPE JOB BECAUSE OF UNMENTIONABLE SINS OR SOMETHING

Is this actually a thing or just gpc/kso posters just talking crap? I've heard this since 2005 but no one actually saying any rumor. Did he supposedly do blow off of a vanier's ass?

yeah i feel that's the gist of what's always posted. there's always blow and boning a big time donor's daughter. but mumped if i know if that's true.
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: HELLHAMMER on November 27, 2018, 07:46:53 AM
Venzy would have to really love Hocutt to go to Tech.  He would also have to really love K-State to come here.

OR LOTS OF PEOPLE THINK HE ISN'T READY FOR LIKE A TENNESSEE OR AUBURN TYPE JOB BECAUSE OF UNMENTIONABLE SINS OR SOMETHING

Is this actually a thing or just gpc/kso posters just talking crap? I've heard this since 2005 but no one actually saying any rumor. Did he supposedly do blow off of a vanier's ass?

yeah i feel that's the gist of what's always posted. there's always blow and boning a big time donor's daughter. but mumped if i know if that's true.

How in the hell could a 20 something year old from Salina have access to blow?  Case dismissed.
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Chingon on November 27, 2018, 09:17:26 AM


?s=19

@chingon what do you think of Gus at KSU since we might not get Bobby

He has a super fun running game when he can find the right QB.  He needs a really good DC to come with him tho.
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: pissclams on November 27, 2018, 09:45:13 AM
Venzy would have to really love Hocutt to go to Tech.  He would also have to really love K-State to come here.

OR LOTS OF PEOPLE THINK HE ISN'T READY FOR LIKE A TENNESSEE OR AUBURN TYPE JOB BECAUSE OF UNMENTIONABLE SINS OR SOMETHING

Is this actually a thing or just gpc/kso posters just talking crap? I've heard this since 2005 but no one actually saying any rumor. Did he supposedly do blow off of a vanier's ass?

yeah i feel that's the gist of what's always posted. there's always blow and boning a big time donor's daughter. but mumped if i know if that's true.

How in the hell could a 20 something year old from Salina have access to blow?  Case dismissed.

even if he did, it's not like there's anything wrong with it
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: resident LibBot dick holder on November 27, 2018, 10:00:34 AM
Like bill doesn't partake in a tootski for the late night film sessions
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: meow meow on November 27, 2018, 10:01:25 AM
sounds like if anyone should suffer the consequences for such actions, it would be bill and not venzy.  who's in charge here?
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: pissclams on November 27, 2018, 12:37:05 PM
Like bill doesn't partake in a tootski for the late night film sessions

i'm 100% convinced that bill and ryan both love the late night tootski film sessions
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 27, 2018, 12:40:51 PM
Rumors about that Scottie Montgomery will be fired at ECU and that Butch Jones will be their number one target.
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: bshea85 on November 27, 2018, 03:14:14 PM
I can't believe I missed this.  McPherson College fired their head football coach Mierkiewicz.  He's on the market.  Would be an A+ Family hire for KSU.

https://macbulldogs.com/news/2018/11/12/mierkiewicz-resigns-as-bulldog-football-coach.aspx
Bethany got rid of their guy too, so we could have multiple options there.

I'm thinking of a co-coach situation.  Seems to work really well for our coordinators.  Why not for the big boss?
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: MakeItRain on November 27, 2018, 11:32:53 PM
Rumors about that Scottie Montgomery will be fired at ECU and that Butch Jones will be their number one target.

Athletic Directors are largely stupid. Oh well at least he's a champion
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cxz57rnXEAA4gHl.jpg)
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: dmartin on November 28, 2018, 02:13:17 PM
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: MakeItRain on November 28, 2018, 10:25:06 PM
Lots of Big 12 implications here.
From The Athletic
Quote
Texas State: West Virginia offensive coordinator Jake Spavital has accepted the Texas State head coaching job, people with knowledge of the situation tells The Athletic’s oscar Feldman. The Austin American-Statesman first reported the news. Spavital spent the past two years at WVU, calling plays this year for the No. 9 scoring offense in the country. He had previously been the offensive coordinator at Cal and Texas A&M. The 33-year-old has also coached at Houston, Tulsa and Oklahoma State. OK State offensive analyst Bob Stitt is expected to become Spavital’s offensive coordinator, Feldman reports. Update: Texas State has confirmed the Spavital hire.

Dana losing his quarterback and offensive coordinator
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: wetwillie on November 28, 2018, 10:26:52 PM
.42 has to be absolutely stoked
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: michigancat on November 29, 2018, 01:12:26 PM

also this was interesting

Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: catastrophe on November 29, 2018, 01:19:30 PM
Would not be upset if we got Dana...
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 29, 2018, 01:20:31 PM
Gross. Dana was an assistant at Tech.
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on November 29, 2018, 01:46:20 PM
I'm not all that impressed with Dana. We could do a lot worse, but I don't see him ever winning the Big 12.
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: michigancat on November 29, 2018, 02:10:40 PM
I'm not all that impressed with Dana. We could do a lot worse, but I don't see him ever winning the Big 12.

they were 4 points from being in the title game this year where they would have played a team that beat them by 4. A couple random plays going differently and they'd have won it this year.
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: KITNfury on November 29, 2018, 02:33:16 PM
Yea we could do a lot worse than Dana (and probably will), but it woudl be hard to get excited about him because you know what you're getting...a moderately successful coach that probably won't go all that far ever. I'm probably a higher risk taker and would like to take a higher risk on someone that could go farther.
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Chingon on November 29, 2018, 02:40:57 PM
After the initial adjustment of playing in the Big 12, my impression has been that Dana's teams have been improving.  WVU has passed by KSU, BU, TCU, and OSU as a program IMO, and only behind OU and UT.
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: michigancat on November 29, 2018, 02:54:49 PM
Yea we could do a lot worse than Dana (and probably will), but it woudl be hard to get excited about him because you know what you're getting...a moderately successful coach that probably won't go all that far ever. I'm probably a higher risk taker and would like to take a higher risk on someone that could go farther.

Yeah, I guess this will only be the second season he finishes ranked. But still this is also arguably his most successful season.
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: MakeItRain on November 29, 2018, 02:56:34 PM

also this was interesting


If this didn't happen Kirby will need to refute it , the fans won't buy into Matt Wells, at all.
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: KITNfury on November 29, 2018, 03:02:34 PM
Yea we could do a lot worse than Dana (and probably will), but it woudl be hard to get excited about him because you know what you're getting...a moderately successful coach that probably won't go all that far ever. I'm probably a higher risk taker and would like to take a higher risk on someone that could go farther.

Yeah, I guess this will only be the second season he finishes ranked. But still this is also arguably his most successful season.
I wouldn't complain much if we got him. Honestly someone like him is probably what we need (ie another coach that can keep the ball rolling not named Snyder). He just seems like a frustrating coach that makes occasional boneheaded decisions.
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: pissclams on November 29, 2018, 03:07:04 PM
dana brings the entertainment/zanyness factor that many coaches lack
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: KITNfury on November 29, 2018, 03:10:48 PM
dana brings the entertainment/zanyness factor that many coaches lack
lol yea
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: michigancat on November 29, 2018, 03:18:09 PM
dana brings the entertainment/zanyness factor that many coaches lack
lol yea

Yes, this is a great point.
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Trim on November 29, 2018, 03:24:06 PM
Dana would be good. Make KSU better and more fun, make conference competitor worse.
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on November 29, 2018, 03:43:58 PM
I'm not all that impressed with Dana. We could do a lot worse, but I don't see him ever winning the Big 12.

they were 4 points from being in the title game this year where they would have played a team that beat them by 4. A couple random plays going differently and they'd have won it this year.

This year is as bad as I can remember the Big 12 ever being, and he still could not quite get there.
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: SkinnyBenny on November 29, 2018, 11:44:39 PM
I would welcome Dana with open arms. He's hilarious.
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: chum1 on November 30, 2018, 07:00:53 PM
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: WildcatNkilt on December 04, 2018, 08:12:59 AM
Urban Meyer is retiring, and Ryan Day will replace him after the bowl game.

Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: bshea85 on December 04, 2018, 02:51:48 PM
Urban Meyer would be a pie-in-the-sky dream coach for KSU.  I hope his health improves and he can get back into the game.  He's good at what he does.
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: michigancat on December 04, 2018, 02:59:10 PM
Urban Meyer would be a pie-in-the-sky dream coach for KSU.  I hope his health improves and he can get back into the game.  He's good at what he does.

he's a piece of crap human and I hope he never coaches or gets paid to appear on TV ever again
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: dontfeedthebear on December 04, 2018, 04:08:57 PM


he's a piece of crap human and I hope he never coaches or gets paid to appear on TV ever again

1000 times this.
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Trim on December 05, 2018, 12:18:17 PM
Urban Meyer would be a pie-in-the-sky dream coach for KSU.  I hope his health improves and he can get back into the game.  He's good at what he does.

he's a piece of crap human and I hope he never coaches or gets paid to appear on TV ever again

Birds of feathers, etc.

Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Katpappy on December 05, 2018, 12:33:04 PM
Urban Meyer would be a pie-in-the-sky dream coach for KSU.  I hope his health improves and he can get back into the game.  He's good at what he does.

he's a piece of crap human and I hope he never coaches or gets paid to appear on TV ever again

Birds of feathers, etc.


Not sure if this is what Urban needs to learn:
https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=leach+on+fat+girl+friends&mkt=en-us&httpsmsn=1&refig=65bd1a42b02b415ad59c91d377f8d3e8&sp=1&qs=HS&pq=leach&sc=8-5&cvid=65bd1a42b02b415ad59c91d377f8d3e8&cc=US&setlang=en-US&ru=%2fsearch%3fq%3dleach%2bon%2bfat%2bgirl%2bfriends%26form%3dEDNTHT%26mkt%3den-us%26httpsmsn%3d1%26refig%3d65bd1a42b02b415ad59c91d377f8d3e8%26sp%3d1%26qs%3dHS%26pq%3dleach%26sc%3d8-5%26cvid%3d65bd1a42b02b415ad59c91d377f8d3e8%26cc%3dUS%26setlang%3den-US&view=detail&mmscn=vwrc&mid=ABA9AE39DC01DCA0B2D5ABA9AE39DC01DCA0B2D5&FORM=WRVORC
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: ednksu on December 05, 2018, 06:26:57 PM
Former UGA DC Mel Tucker Officially Named Colorado Head Coach
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: ChiCat on December 07, 2018, 08:35:36 AM
Liberty (religious institution) ran by Ian McCaw (fired Baylor sex assault AD) hiring Hugh Freeze (purveyor of escort services)
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on December 07, 2018, 08:45:15 AM
Take LHC Ron Prince off the big board. He's taking the coveted Howard HC gig.
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: TaqMan on December 07, 2018, 08:48:37 AM
Take LHC Ron Prince off the big board. He's taking the coveted Howard HC gig.

Would make for a juicy non-con matchup
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: bshea85 on December 07, 2018, 09:45:26 PM
Liberty (religious institution) ran by Ian McCaw (fired Baylor sex assault AD) hiring Hugh Freeze (purveyor of escort services)

Christian schools are usually pretty forgiving.
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: mocat on December 08, 2018, 02:48:21 AM
Take LHC Ron Prince off the big board. He's taking the coveted Howard HC gig.

Would make for a juicy non-con matchup

I spent like 30 secs looking for the funny part of your post you Tobias lookalike screen name having mf'er
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Kat Kid on December 09, 2018, 08:24:22 AM
Liberty (religious institution) ran by Ian McCaw (fired Baylor sex assault AD) hiring Hugh Freeze (purveyor of escort services)

Christian schools are usually pretty forgiving.

Falwell Jr. and his wife had a fling with a Florida pool boy that ended up getting leveraged by Michael Coen. He is not exactly a paragon of virtue.
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on December 10, 2018, 09:49:10 AM
Liberty (religious institution) ran by Ian McCaw (fired Baylor sex assault AD) hiring Hugh Freeze (purveyor of escort services)

Christian schools are usually pretty forgiving.

I guess that is one way of looking at it.
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: michigancat on December 30, 2018, 12:14:37 PM
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And

?s=19

Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: bucket on December 30, 2018, 12:28:26 PM
Richt is reportedly retiring. We'll see if that's the case or not.
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Pete on December 30, 2018, 01:34:54 PM
Surely Holgerson wouldn't leave WVU for Houston, would he?!?
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: wetwillie on December 30, 2018, 02:11:13 PM
Surely Holgerson wouldn't leave WVU for Houston, would he?!?

Don’t think they would have canned apple white if they didn’t think it was a good possibility.
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: KITNfury on December 30, 2018, 02:17:41 PM
I can't imagine Dana doing that.
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 30, 2018, 02:21:28 PM
That one guy left TTech for Cincinnati.
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: steve dave on December 30, 2018, 02:28:06 PM
WVU is gonna suck next year. Think he wants out before he takes the fall for it.


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Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: KITNfury on December 30, 2018, 05:17:00 PM
WVU is gonna suck next year. Think he wants out before he takes the fall for it.


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I thought exactly that after I posted. Only way you make that move is if you're pretty sure you're firing is imminent. Otherwise, no way.
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Oyster_Trousers on December 30, 2018, 05:42:32 PM
That one guy left TTech for Cincinnati.

Tuberville is a rough ridin’ window licker and basically run out of Lubbock.
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Chingon on December 30, 2018, 06:17:51 PM
You son of a bitch.
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: michigancat on December 30, 2018, 06:31:56 PM
That one guy left TTech for Cincinnati.

Tuberville is a rough ridin’ window licker and basically run out of Lubbock.
I thought he left in the middle of a recruiting dinner
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: michigancat on December 30, 2018, 06:33:17 PM
https://www.usatoday.com/story/gameon/2012/12/12/tommy-tuberville-texas-tech-cincinnati/1763615/
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: steve dave on December 30, 2018, 06:37:35 PM
rich rod to OC at ole miss
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Oyster_Trousers on December 30, 2018, 07:37:54 PM
That one guy left TTech for Cincinnati.

Tuberville is a rough ridin’ window licker and basically run out of Lubbock.
I thought he left in the middle of a recruiting dinner

Can you blame him though?  I mean who wouldn’t leave west Texas for that Skyline Chili?
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: wetwillie on December 30, 2018, 08:11:13 PM
rich rod to OC at ole miss

crap I didn’t realize he was available.
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: WildcatNkilt on December 30, 2018, 09:21:11 PM
Is the cupboard that bare at WVU?
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: wetwillie on December 30, 2018, 10:24:55 PM
Man what a clusterfuck the miami situation must be. Manny Diaz goes to Rutgers and then they force Richt out and then have to pay Rutgers 4 million for the buyout just to get him back.
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: bucket on December 30, 2018, 10:36:22 PM
Man what a clusterfuck the miami situation must be. Manny Diaz goes to Rutgers and then they force Richt out and then have to pay Rutgers 4 million for the buyout just to get him back.

Temple.
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: wetwillie on December 30, 2018, 10:43:50 PM
Man what a clusterfuck the miami situation must be. Manny Diaz goes to Rutgers and then they force Richt out and then have to pay Rutgers 4 million for the buyout just to get him back.

Temple.

Yea temple sorry, still hilarious and wtf.
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: bucket on December 30, 2018, 10:47:23 PM
Man what a clusterfuck the miami situation must be. Manny Diaz goes to Rutgers and then they force Richt out and then have to pay Rutgers 4 million for the buyout just to get him back.

Temple.

Yea temple sorry, still hilarious and wtf.

Temple got $2.5 mil for their head coach leaving for Georgia Tech and now another $4 mil for Manny Diaz going back to Miami. They should be able to throw a lot of cash at someone. Honestly, the Manny Diaz hire was really great for them considering they got millions for doing next to nothing.
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: wetwillie on December 30, 2018, 11:05:34 PM
Man what a clusterfuck the miami situation must be. Manny Diaz goes to Rutgers and then they force Richt out and then have to pay Rutgers 4 million for the buyout just to get him back.

Temple.

Yea temple sorry, still hilarious and wtf.

Temple got $2.5 mil for their head coach leaving for Georgia Tech and now another $4 mil for Manny Diaz going back to Miami. They should be able to throw a lot of cash at someone. Honestly, the Manny Diaz hire was really great for them considering they got millions for doing next to nothing.

Does the NCAA let early signing period kids re open their recruitment for situations like what just happened at temple or are they just SOL?
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: wetwillie on December 30, 2018, 11:13:37 PM
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Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: SkinnyBenny on December 31, 2018, 01:44:22 AM
that would be a pretty bad step backwards for holgo. BTW, poor Temple. That's two coaches they've lost to Miami. :frown:
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: MakeItRain on December 31, 2018, 07:27:07 AM
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Good for him, those people at Houston are bat crap crazy.
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: pissclams on December 31, 2018, 09:05:24 AM
hopefully temple makes a run at venables (pussy), with their new found riches
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: 8manpick on December 31, 2018, 07:22:59 PM
What if BV took the Temple job? That would be so sad
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: nicname on December 31, 2018, 07:26:58 PM
What if BV took the Temple job? That would be so sad

What if he took the Temple job, then KSU offered him like $5M/year all while buying out Klieman and current staff and paying Temple even more money?

 :lol:
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: KST8FAN on December 31, 2018, 07:41:18 PM
What if BV took the Temple job? That would be so sad
Did anyone catch the discussion during Clemson-ND about BV?  He is sooo competitive and can't stand to lose so he would never take a HC job where losing during a rebuild might happen.

Tom

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Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: TaqMan on December 31, 2018, 09:22:07 PM
FP, TC, Etc...
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: purplehaze on December 31, 2018, 11:56:52 PM
looks official

https://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2019/1/1/18153591/dana-holgorsen-hired-houston-coach-west-virginia (https://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2019/1/1/18153591/dana-holgorsen-hired-houston-coach-west-virginia)
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: KST8FAN on January 01, 2019, 07:30:31 PM
Sorry, NFL: Riley agrees to extension with OU https://es.pn/2LL0s2t
via @ESPN App http://es.pn/app

Tom

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Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: wetwillie on January 01, 2019, 07:48:59 PM
The twitter rumblings say Neal Brown is headed to WVU.
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Trim on January 01, 2019, 08:08:26 PM
So you can just take a successful power 5 school's head coach by paying money?
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: MakeItRain on January 01, 2019, 08:24:36 PM
So you can just take a successful power 5 school's head coach by paying money?

(https://media.tenor.com/images/d429b6900d8d9bb14e3587e3ffe640d1/tenor.gif)

I don't think an underperforming dude taking the Frank Haith Memorial Job Reset, losing damn near his entire team, is the best example you should use for this.

Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Trim on January 01, 2019, 09:25:38 PM
I don't think an underperforming dude taking the Frank Haith Memorial Job Reset, losing damn near his entire team, is the best example you should use for this.

I checked to make sure I wasn't way off in my feeling that they've been good and found they were 18-9 in conference the last 3 years.  You already know I have no idea about anything beyond that. 

I'd have wanted us shooting higher anyway.
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: MakeItRain on January 01, 2019, 10:00:07 PM
I don't think an underperforming dude taking the Frank Haith Memorial Job Reset, losing damn near his entire team, is the best example you should use for this.

I checked to make sure I wasn't way off in my feeling that they've been good and found they were 18-9 in conference the last 3 years.  You already know I have no idea about anything beyond that. 

I'd have wanted us shooting higher anyway.

1-2 versus flood aggie
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Trim on January 01, 2019, 10:50:13 PM
I don't think an underperforming dude taking the Frank Haith Memorial Job Reset, losing damn near his entire team, is the best example you should use for this.

I checked to make sure I wasn't way off in my feeling that they've been good and found they were 18-9 in conference the last 3 years.  You already know I have no idea about anything beyond that. 

I'd have wanted us shooting higher anyway.

1-2 versus flood aggie

Ouch. I’ll say this about kstatesports, at least they didn’t wait for OBz to lose twice to the molds before canning his ass.
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: cDubya on January 07, 2019, 09:56:58 AM
So, with Neal Brown official at WVU, word is hes bringing Koenning along as DC. Whats he all about? I know he spent time at K State, thats about it.
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: meow meow on January 07, 2019, 10:28:10 AM
learned everything he knows from Ron Prince, so, you got a good one.
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: ChiCat on January 07, 2019, 10:34:59 AM
So, with Neal Brown official at WVU, word is hes bringing Koenning along as DC. Whats he all about? I know he spent time at K State, thats about it.

I remember him meeting recruits on a day where OU was getting beat pretty badly (bowl game or B12 championship or something).  He polished off a couple of beers before the recruits got there and then was having fun talking crap on OU.
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: meow meow on January 07, 2019, 10:40:58 AM
like i said, EVER-Y-THING
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: KITNfury on January 07, 2019, 02:03:51 PM
like i said, EVER-Y-THING
Surprise orgy hotel vacays!  :love:
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: cDubya on January 07, 2019, 02:11:01 PM
like i said, EVER-Y-THING
Surprise orgy hotel vacays!  :love:
So, par for the course, then!
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Katpappy on January 07, 2019, 11:40:45 PM
So, with Neal Brown official at WVU, word is hes bringing Koenning along as DC. Whats he all about? I know he spent time at K State, thats about it.


This dweeb was the DC at Clemson when they played WVC in the Orange Bowl.  That was back when your team was the Big East Champions playing Clemson in an basketball type scoring game, due to the beyond shitty defense of Clemson.   :ROFL:


Of couse, the worst came later when our smart staff hired this dweeb!  :bang:
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: cDubya on January 07, 2019, 11:58:58 PM
So, with Neal Brown official at WVU, word is hes bringing Koenning along as DC. Whats he all about? I know he spent time at K State, thats about it.


This dweeb was the DC at Clemson when they played WVC in the Orange Bowl.  That was back when your team was the Big East Champions playing Clemson in an basketball type scoring game, due to the beyond shitty defense of Clemson.   :ROFL:


Of couse, the worst came later when our smart staff hired this dweeb!  :bang:
Oh crap, he was the DC for that game?! :ohno:
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: 8manpick on January 08, 2019, 02:35:17 PM
Kliff supposedly to the Arizona Cardinals, which does seem like a step down from TTech in some ways.
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: wetwillie on January 08, 2019, 02:37:44 PM
Lots of people are bagging on Lynn Swan for blocking People from interviewing him. Not sure what I’d do in that spot but it feels like blocking is a a bad long term strategy
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: cas4ksu on January 08, 2019, 02:52:33 PM
Just very weird.
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: ChiCat on January 08, 2019, 03:13:31 PM
I don't blame USC for blocking him.  Kliff JUST took the job there.  They'll also be behind the 8 ball in trying to replace him.

My guess is Kliff told him he was going to interview, even if he had to quit to do it.  Swann probably relented at that point realizing that his only chance to retain Kliff was to let him interview.
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on January 08, 2019, 05:24:11 PM
Kliff must have ventured off the USC grounds.
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: KITNfury on January 08, 2019, 05:26:23 PM
Blocking interviews is ridiculous and petty, although way less serious if interviewing for equal or lesser position against a regular opponent.
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: WildcatNkilt on January 08, 2019, 09:53:52 PM
Getting fired from a low level HC P5 job to a NFL HC with 4 year contract seems like a huge step up.  Pretty impressive.
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: IPA4Me on January 09, 2019, 06:00:14 AM
Would take similar offers in my field of work.
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: cas4ksu on January 09, 2019, 01:59:51 PM
Sounds like the Jets job is Matt Rhule's to lose at this point.
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: wetwillie on January 09, 2019, 04:33:14 PM
Sounds like the Jets job is Matt Rhule's to lose at this point.

That’s great news
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: michigancat on January 09, 2019, 04:41:27 PM
Sounds like the Jets job is Matt Rhule's to lose at this point.

That’s great news
Is he really that good?
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Kat Kid on January 09, 2019, 06:31:46 PM
These NFL hires are crazy.
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: resident LibBot dick holder on January 09, 2019, 06:54:24 PM
How long until the vikings snach up the 'lark?
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: WildcatNkilt on January 09, 2019, 10:47:41 PM
Troy just hired Chip from KU.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: tdaver on January 11, 2019, 12:13:26 PM
More
Carl Pelini- Bowling Green
Tim Beck- Texas
Scotty Ohara- UTEP
Vic Koenning- Troy
Chris Cosh- Delaware
Jeff Schwinn- Washburn
Doug Grush- American River College
Charlie Coe- Missouri Baptist
Andy Ludwig
Rex Ryan

Come on with Andy Ludwig and Rex Ryan, they don't count man. I don't know who Charlie Coe, Doug Grush, and Scotty Ohara are, are they from Iowa? When did Tim Beck and Carl Pelini work for Bill?

Ludwig headed back to Utah.  Whittingham chews threw OCs like LittreLL does Copenhagen.  Utes have had 8 OCs since Ludwig left.
https://www.sltrib.com/sports/utah-utes/2019/01/10/andy-ludwig-jim-harding/

Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: MakeItRain on January 12, 2019, 03:09:26 AM
More
Carl Pelini- Bowling Green
Tim Beck- Texas
Scotty Ohara- UTEP
Vic Koenning- Troy
Chris Cosh- Delaware
Jeff Schwinn- Washburn
Doug Grush- American River College
Charlie Coe- Missouri Baptist
Andy Ludwig
Rex Ryan

Come on with Andy Ludwig and Rex Ryan, they don't count man. I don't know who Charlie Coe, Doug Grush, and Scotty Ohara are, are they from Iowa? When did Tim Beck and Carl Pelini work for Bill?

Ludwig headed back to Utah.  Whittingham chews threw OCs like LittreLL does Copenhagen.  Utes have had 8 OCs since Ludwig left.
https://www.sltrib.com/sports/utah-utes/2019/01/10/andy-ludwig-jim-harding/
Good God
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: bucket on January 12, 2019, 12:12:18 PM
Quote
Miami announced that Kansas State RB coach Eric Hickson has been hired to serve in the same capacity.

Hickson spent one season at Kansas State, his alma mater, with the Wildcats ranking third in the Big 12 in rushing offense and RB Alex Barnes leading the conference in both rushing yards (1,355) and rushing touchdowns (12). Prior to the 2018 season Hickson spent three years at Akron, with the Zips appearing in two bowl games during that time span. Among the backs he'll work with next season is rising junior DeeJay Dallas, who rushed for 617 yards and six touchdowns in 2018.
Source: Miami Athletics Jan 12 - 1:09 PM

I'm happy he landed on his feet!
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: wetwillie on January 12, 2019, 12:18:46 PM
Any idea if that means we don’t have to pay his buyout?
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: bucket on January 12, 2019, 12:28:24 PM
Any idea if that means we don’t have to pay his buyout?

 :lol:
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: wetwillie on January 12, 2019, 12:53:40 PM
looks like we don’t have to pay a dime, that’s good news. Hope we use that to continue our recruiting efforts.


Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: AppleJack on January 14, 2019, 04:09:54 PM
Our new DC is going to the Chicago Bears? That doesn't sound very cool.
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: wetwillie on January 14, 2019, 05:27:56 PM
Our new DC is going to the Chicago Bears? That doesn't sound very cool.

Warm up the Bo Pelini to KSU rumors mother fuckers!
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: kearneymen on January 15, 2019, 07:07:04 AM
It is interesting that at one point I was concerned if Kly had the contacts to put together a P5 staff.  Now, only a few weeks later, we are talking about our DC leaving for the NFL and if he does leave we still have two former DCs on the staff.  It would suck to drop a staff member so quickly and before the recruiting period is done, but I imagine that the NFL pays way better than we do?
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Shooter Jones on January 15, 2019, 09:02:23 AM
I always wanted the Wyoming guy more than the NFL guy, maybe we'll hire him now.
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: IPA4Me on January 15, 2019, 10:54:34 AM
Message boarder elsewhere indicates the Chicago position coach job will be $200K ish less than the DC job at KSU.
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: kearneymen on January 15, 2019, 01:20:39 PM
 :ksu:
Message boarder elsewhere indicates the Chicago position coach job will be $200K ish less than the DC job at KSU.

Nice!  Thanks for the good info
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: cas4ksu on January 15, 2019, 02:38:43 PM
:ksu:
Message boarder elsewhere indicates the Chicago position coach job will be $200K ish less than the DC job at KSU.

Nice!  Thanks for the good info

interesting. i would have thought the money would have been pretty comparable. hopefully we can keep him. if not, whatever.
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: chum1 on January 17, 2019, 08:20:11 PM
lol

Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Shooter Jones on January 18, 2019, 04:09:37 PM
do we have a defensive coordinator? or no hurry until after NSD?
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: wetwillie on January 18, 2019, 05:05:20 PM
do we have a defensive coordinator? or no hurry until after NSD?

I think we want Scottie Hazelton but might not agree on how much he should be paid.
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: surly on January 18, 2019, 05:08:25 PM
nope.
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: kashi1965 on January 18, 2019, 07:35:27 PM
nope.
who they looking at?
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Dlew12 on January 21, 2019, 04:24:08 PM
it's hazelton
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: pissclams on January 21, 2019, 04:41:24 PM
it's hazelton

looks more like the autoharp player for father john misty
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: wetwillie on January 21, 2019, 04:55:45 PM
I like him more than I did manichinu whatever his name was
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: cas4ksu on January 21, 2019, 05:04:37 PM
I like him more than I did manichinu whatever his name was

i liked cherry man, but hazelton is a-ok in my book too.
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: NDSU Lollypopkid on January 22, 2019, 06:00:20 AM
NDSUjr is getting weirder and weirder by the second.
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: sonofdaxjones on January 22, 2019, 01:30:05 PM
NDSUjr is getting weirder and weirder by the second.

Yeah, and the next garsh darn hire with NDSU ties may make me upchuck my Lutefisk dontcha know.
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: 8manpick on January 25, 2019, 08:25:53 AM
https://theathletic.com/784316/2019/01/25/mandel-grading-the-fbs-head-coaching-hires-for-2018-19/

Quote from: Stewart Mandel
Kansas State (B+): North Dakota State coach Chris Klieman.
It puzzled me why K-State fans initially freaked out over the school hiring an FCS coach. First of all, Klieman wasn’t just any FCS coach, he went 69-6 and won four national championships in five years. The 51-year-old Iowa native also just feels like a good fit in Manhattan, where finding diamond-in-the-rough recruits and developing them is essential. I would have had slightly more confidence in Satterfield or Brown, but there’s a lot to like about Klieman, who has the unenviable task of succeeding K-State icon LHC Bill Snyder.

[...]

Kansas (D): Dos Equis spokesman Les Miles.
I once gave Kansas an A for hiring Turner Gill (whoops) and an F for hiring Charlie Weis (accurate). Miles isn’t divisive and arrogant like Weis — if anything, he’s extremely upbeat and charismatic — but I fear his tenure could be nearly as disastrous. The 65-year-old Michigan Man failed to catch on to the evolution of college offenses at LSU and has given no indication he’s learned from his mistakes. He’s assembled a mostly underwhelming staff. Simply put, a national championship ring from 12 years ago isn’t going to turn around the Big 12’s worst program by itself.
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: bucket on February 25, 2019, 01:45:46 PM
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Texas is hiring former Kansas State OC Andre Coleman to an unspecified role.

Coleman confirmed that he was joining Texas in a tweet on Monday morning. It's likely that he's going to serve as an analyst, as the on-field staff appears to be full at the moment. He spent one year with the Wildcats as OC, and previously was the WR coach and passing-game coordinator. He should help with the gameplanning, and also is viewed as a strong recruiter.

SOURCE: 247 Sports
Feb 25, 2019, 2:42 PM
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: meow meow on February 25, 2019, 02:39:15 PM
Coleman to Texas
Seiler to WVU
Dickey to OSU

Hope Klieman knows what he's doing
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: wetwillie on February 25, 2019, 02:47:12 PM
What on earth
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: WildcatNkilt on February 25, 2019, 02:51:33 PM
Coleman to Texas
Seiler to WVU
Dickey to OSU

Hope Klieman knows what he's doing

It's not like these guys left an existing staff that had been together for a few years for greener pastures.  Coleman, Seiler, and Dickey add 0 value to their new team against a Klieman-coached Cats other than existing roster talent (which isn't much of a value). 

Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: chum1 on February 25, 2019, 02:53:35 PM
LittreLL's big mistake was saying up front that he would clean house.
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: bananaeater on February 25, 2019, 03:56:52 PM
Coleman to Texas
Seiler to WVU
Dickey to OSU

Hope Klieman knows what he's doing

Only one that really bothers me is Dickey.  Dude was a stud coach.
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: dmartin on February 25, 2019, 04:24:18 PM
Coleman to Texas
Seiler to WVU
Dickey to OSU

Hope Klieman knows what he's doing

The spies have been planted.....
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: wetwillie on February 25, 2019, 04:45:08 PM
Coleman to Texas
Seiler to WVU
Dickey to OSU

Hope Klieman knows what he's doing

Only one that really bothers me is Dickey.  Dude was a stud coach.

I have no idea how good or bad Dickey was at his job but I’m bullish on Riley being better long term.
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: KITNfury on February 25, 2019, 07:46:28 PM
Klieman said the other day on the radio that he felt ndsu had FBS quality lines (paraphrasing). If true, as good as I think Dickey probably was, we should be just fine.
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: tdaver on May 30, 2019, 02:32:23 PM
More
Carl Pelini- Bowling Green
Tim Beck- Texas
Scotty Ohara- UTEP
Vic Koenning- Troy
Chris Cosh- Delaware
Jeff Schwinn- Washburn
Doug Grush- American River College
Charlie Coe- Missouri Baptist
Andy Ludwig
Rex Ryan

Come on with Andy Ludwig and Rex Ryan, they don't count man. I don't know who Charlie Coe, Doug Grush, and Scotty Ohara are, are they from Iowa? When did Tim Beck and Carl Pelini work for Bill?

Ludwig headed back to Utah.  Whittingham chews threw OCs like LittreLL does Copenhagen.  Utes have had 8 OCs since Ludwig left.
https://www.sltrib.com/sports/utah-utes/2019/01/10/andy-ludwig-jim-harding/

Damn.  This guy and the DC both making $820k.  At Utah!

https://www.sltrib.com/sports/utah-utes/2019/05/30/with-raise-ute-defensive/
Title: Re: Official 2017 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: MakeItRain on May 30, 2019, 07:38:48 PM
More
Carl Pelini- Bowling Green
Tim Beck- Texas
Scotty Ohara- UTEP
Vic Koenning- Troy
Chris Cosh- Delaware
Jeff Schwinn- Washburn
Doug Grush- American River College
Charlie Coe- Missouri Baptist
Andy Ludwig
Rex Ryan

Come on with Andy Ludwig and Rex Ryan, they don't count man. I don't know who Charlie Coe, Doug Grush, and Scotty Ohara are, are they from Iowa? When did Tim Beck and Carl Pelini work for Bill?

Ludwig headed back to Utah.  Whittingham chews threw OCs like LittreLL does Copenhagen.  Utes have had 8 OCs since Ludwig left.
https://www.sltrib.com/sports/utah-utes/2019/01/10/andy-ludwig-jim-harding/

Damn.  This guy and the DC both making $820k.  At Utah!

https://www.sltrib.com/sports/utah-utes/2019/05/30/with-raise-ute-defensive/

Testament to white mediocrity
Title: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: steve dave on May 30, 2019, 08:09:58 PM
what is white mediocrity? (Other than this obv)


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Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: MakeItRain on June 01, 2019, 05:11:13 PM
what is white mediocrity? (Other than this obv)


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Exactly this. Connected white dudes allowed to thrive while being absolutely being held to a lower standard than their colleagues with melanin. Retread head coaches, unremarkable indistinguishable assistant coaches, career backup quarterbacks, most middle managers, etc. etc. etc.
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: pissclams on June 01, 2019, 06:49:02 PM
what is white mediocrity? (Other than this obv)


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Exactly this. Connected white dudes allowed to thrive while being absolutely being held to a lower standard than their colleagues with melanin. Retread head coaches, unremarkable indistinguishable assistant coaches, career backup quarterbacks, most middle managers, etc. etc. etc.
why not just tell sd that you are talking about him?
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: MakeItRain on June 02, 2019, 12:05:15 PM
what is white mediocrity? (Other than this obv)


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Exactly this. Connected white dudes allowed to thrive while being absolutely being held to a lower standard than their colleagues with melanin. Retread head coaches, unremarkable indistinguishable assistant coaches, career backup quarterbacks, most middle managers, etc. etc. etc.
why not just tell sd that you are talking about him?

SD is Anglo Excellence
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: sonofdaxjones on June 02, 2019, 01:38:22 PM
There's a growing legion of guys with melanin who are re-treads.

We'll start with Mike Locksley.






Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: sonofdaxjones on June 02, 2019, 01:42:34 PM
Turner Gill has been an FCS/FBS/FCS now FBS head coach for 13 consecutive years.

10 games below .500, 1 bowl game, 1 playoff appearance

Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: MakeItRain on June 02, 2019, 07:24:31 PM
Turner Gill has been an FCS/FBS/FCS now FBS head coach for 13 consecutive years.

10 games below .500, 1 bowl game, 1 playoff appearance

Goodness, you just proved my point, thank you hyper-sensitive white guy.

Gill failed at one job in his life, it just so happened that the one failure was at the worst program in the FBS. In addition to this the two white guys that followed him were allowed to be unquestionably worse.

How did Gill do outside of Kansas? He had six conference championships in 11 years at freaking Buffalo and Liberty. The transitioned liberty into the FBS then retired after a very respectable 6-6 first FBS season. If you brought him up because he was just hired at Pig Aggy, know that he took a non coaching job.

Looking at that man as a retread couldn't have been a better ally oop for me, thank you.

I got nothing on Locksley, Maryland is taking a huge gamble on him. That isn't the job it was before Durkin screwed it up, but they definitely could have found a coach more deserving.
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: catastrophe on June 02, 2019, 07:42:21 PM
Got him!

Now do Ron Prince!!
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: sonofdaxjones on June 02, 2019, 07:59:35 PM
Turner Gill has been an FCS/FBS/FCS now FBS head coach for 13 consecutive years.

10 games below .500, 1 bowl game, 1 playoff appearance

Goodness, you just proved my point, thank you hyper-sensitive white guy.

Gill failed at one job in his life, it just so happened that the one failure was at the worst program in the FBS. In addition to this the two white guys that followed him were allowed to be unquestionably worse.

How did Gill do outside of Kansas? He had six conference championships in 11 years at freaking Buffalo and Liberty. The transitioned liberty into the FBS then retired after a very respectable 6-6 first FBS season. If you brought him up because he was just hired at Pig Aggy, know that he took a non coaching job.

Looking at that man as a retread couldn't have been a better ally oop for me, thank you.

I got nothing on Locksley, Maryland is taking a huge gamble on him. That isn't the job it was before Durkin screwed it up, but they definitely could have found a coach more deserving.


Some nice trophies, 1 FCS playoff appearance.

Liberty was is in a 6 team conference and dwarfed the other schools in that conference in terms of resources.  Their athletic budget surpassed $50 million a year, that's more than Boise State.  Their athletic budget was more than double North Dakota State.  That's why they went FBS independent.

Hyper-sensitive . . . coming from you?   :lol:





Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: chum1 on November 03, 2019, 04:57:10 PM
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: steve dave on November 03, 2019, 05:12:21 PM
jeez


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Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: wetwillie on November 03, 2019, 07:28:35 PM
how does a program go from winning the natty to losing their coach to Aggie and firing the next one halfway thru year two in 5 years?
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: WildcatNkilt on November 03, 2019, 07:38:44 PM
Wonder which donor(s) will pony up for that buyout. 
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: MakeItRain on November 03, 2019, 08:58:35 PM
how does a program go from winning the natty to losing their coach to Aggie and firing the next one halfway thru year two in 5 years?

That coach left for aggie because he wrecked the program, didn't recruit for crap.
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: ednksu on November 03, 2019, 11:46:03 PM
how does a program go from winning the natty to losing their coach to Aggie and firing the next one halfway thru year two in 5 years?

That coach left for aggie because he wrecked the program, didn't recruit for crap.
This, he was slow playing an exit for 3 years before he finally got the Collie Cult to give him a huge payday.

I'm not sure where the value of Herbstreit and social media is in FBS admin decision making, but the comments that came out after the game hit headlines pretty hard. 
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: wetwillie on November 04, 2019, 10:15:43 PM
Lots of smoke around big game bob stoops becoming the next Florida State head coach.
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: lakesbison on November 04, 2019, 10:24:18 PM
Lots of smoke around big game bob stoops becoming the next Florida State head coach.

Thats probably the right hire.  Penn state franklin aint moving and they already tried the Oregon Coach.
Stoops would be good down there for FSU.

Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Katpappy on November 05, 2019, 04:51:27 AM
Bets on Meyer coaching again.
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: WildcatNkilt on November 05, 2019, 06:03:39 AM
Isn’t Stoops coaching XFL?
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: 8manpick on November 05, 2019, 07:29:49 AM
Isn’t Stoops coaching XFL?
He was going to
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: WildcatNkilt on November 05, 2019, 08:52:23 AM
Finebaum doesn't think so.

https://thespun.com/college-football/paul-finebaum-bob-stoops-notre-dame (https://thespun.com/college-football/paul-finebaum-bob-stoops-notre-dame)

I don't disagree with him.  FSU seems below Stoops, and also a huge mess. 
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: ChiCat on November 05, 2019, 09:10:03 AM
I don't know that FSU has a realistic view of where their program is in CFB's hierarchy.  Stoops would have to be desperate to get back into it to take a job that far beneath OU at this point.  Jimbo set a narrative that they don't financially support the program like they should, although some of that could've been him looking for an exit.  With the Taggart buyout though, I don't imagine that the coach will have elite resources to compete with Clemson any time soon.  Also, they suck.

Leach and Malzahn would be two top targets for me.  Auburn would have to let Malzahn go, but they are delusional enough to do it.
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: IPA4Me on November 05, 2019, 11:02:06 AM
He's in denial mode now.

?s=19

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Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: wetwillie on November 05, 2019, 12:04:30 PM
New rumors are Matt Campbell
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: catastrophe on November 05, 2019, 12:34:09 PM
That would be tasty
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Chingon on November 05, 2019, 12:36:20 PM
Lol good luck with that!!!
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: meow meow on November 05, 2019, 01:04:06 PM
that would be amaze
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on November 05, 2019, 01:05:35 PM
He would be worse than Taggart.
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: meow meow on November 05, 2019, 01:06:27 PM
the clone meltdown would be glorious
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 05, 2019, 01:07:42 PM
He's done a horrible job this year.
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: meow meow on November 05, 2019, 01:43:10 PM
i think you guys are missing the point, the meltdown would be epic!  don't forget they gave a 10 year extension to proud pawl
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on November 05, 2019, 02:24:10 PM
i think you guys are missing the point, the meltdown would be epic!  don't forget they gave a 10 year extension to proud pawl
Oh, don't get me wrong, I would love it.
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: lakesbison on November 05, 2019, 02:36:02 PM
dumbass U of Minnesota regents got pressured by pj flecks handlers and somehow got them to give fleck an extension BEFORE the Penn State game and upcoming 4 game losing streak.

what complete idiots.   NDSU goes 8-0 with that schedule gophers have, K State probably does too  ;)
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: PurpleOil on November 07, 2019, 06:35:01 AM
^He's not wrong.
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: wetwillie on November 07, 2019, 11:00:37 PM
?s=21

God I love wild ass rumor and speculation on football coaching searches.
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: catastrophe on November 07, 2019, 11:11:05 PM
Doug G. should throw his hat in there
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: catbacker 73 on November 08, 2019, 01:32:32 AM
Quote
ChiCat
Leach and Malzahn would be two top targets for me.  Auburn would have to let Malzahn go, but they are delusional enough to do it.

Have lots of friends who still coach H.S. football in TexAZZ, Okie-Homer and Ark.

Many coaches in Ark. hold Missy Gussie Mala-Zone personally responsible for getting Houston Nutt fired. Nutt was highly respected in Ark, Mo, Tenn, Ok, TexAzz if for no other reason than what he, his father and brothers did at Ark School for the Deaf.

 Remember that Nutt is the only Razorback Coach to take Ark to SEC Championship game - twice.  And then Gussie pissed a great many H.S. coaches off while he was Ark. St. with a seriously shitty attitude.Gussie and his wife both proclaim that GAWD picked him to lead AWE-Burn. (easy to look up)

Leech had a pretty crappy reputation among west TexAzz and SW Okie-Homer coaches even before the Co-Murderer of SMU football,
Craig James, stuck his criminal nose into TT football because his lazy son cried to DADDIE with DADDIE's ESPN Power

Funny how both Leech and Mala-Zone have as much trouble hanging onto Asst. Coaches as Pawn Rince, formerly of KSU and Howard.   
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: kst8cat on November 08, 2019, 09:26:11 AM
Quote
ChiCat
Leach and Malzahn would be two top targets for me.  Auburn would have to let Malzahn go, but they are delusional enough to do it.

Have lots of friends who still coach H.S. football in TexAZZ, Okie-Homer and Ark.

Many coaches in Ark. hold Missy Gussie Mala-Zone personally responsible for getting Houston Nutt fired. Nutt was highly respected in Ark, Mo, Tenn, Ok, TexAzz if for no other reason than what he, his father and brothers did at Ark School for the Deaf.

 Remember that Nutt is the only Razorback Coach to take Ark to SEC Championship game - twice.  And then Gussie pissed a great many H.S. coaches off while he was Ark. St. with a seriously shitty attitude.Gussie and his wife both proclaim that GAWD picked him to lead AWE-Burn. (easy to look up)

Leech had a pretty crappy reputation among west TexAzz and SW Okie-Homer coaches even before the Co-Murderer of SMU football,
Craig James, stuck his criminal nose into TT football because his lazy son cried to DADDIE with DADDIE's ESPN Power

Funny how both Leech and Mala-Zone have as much trouble hanging onto Asst. Coaches as Pawn Rince, formerly of KSU and Howard.

What does Malzahn's tenure at Arkansas State have to do with Houston Nutt?  Houston Nutt was retired at the time. 
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: KSURFC8 on November 08, 2019, 09:32:17 AM
Prime Slime and Half Ass U deserve each other.

He could get Andre Rison to be DC and Ryan Leaf as OC

Guaranteed NC!
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: LickNeckey on November 08, 2019, 10:05:09 AM
why would Adre Rison be a DC
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Tobias on November 08, 2019, 11:57:27 AM
you make some great points, catbacker 73
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: The1BigWillie on November 08, 2019, 12:19:01 PM
Quote
ChiCat
Leach and Malzahn would be two top targets for me.  Auburn would have to let Malzahn go, but they are delusional enough to do it.

Have lots of friends who still coach H.S. football in TexAZZ, Okie-Homer and Ark.

Many coaches in Ark. hold Missy Gussie Mala-Zone personally responsible for getting Houston Nutt fired. Nutt was highly respected in Ark, Mo, Tenn, Ok, TexAzz if for no other reason than what he, his father and brothers did at Ark School for the Deaf.

 Remember that Nutt is the only Razorback Coach to take Ark to SEC Championship game - twice.  And then Gussie pissed a great many H.S. coaches off while he was Ark. St. with a seriously shitty attitude.Gussie and his wife both proclaim that GAWD picked him to lead AWE-Burn. (easy to look up)

Leech had a pretty crappy reputation among west TexAzz and SW Okie-Homer coaches even before the Co-Murderer of SMU football,
Craig James, stuck his criminal nose into TT football because his lazy son cried to DADDIE with DADDIE's ESPN Power

Funny how both Leech and Mala-Zone have as much trouble hanging onto Asst. Coaches as Pawn Rince, formerly of KSU and Howard.

What does Malzahn's tenure at Arkansas State have to do with Houston Nutt?  Houston Nutt was retired at the time.

If he answers I hope he types in the same gibberish.
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: catbacker 73 on November 09, 2019, 02:19:49 AM
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What does Malzahn's tenure at Arkansas State have to do with Houston Nutt?  Houston Nutt was retired at the time.

During Gussie's first job in FBS, at Ark under Nutt, Gussie started the rebellion when Nutt controlled 1st year Asst. from 5A state Champ, Gussie and his 3 "Extrodinary 23 Star" players went to Ark. Gussie was always using back channel discontents to complain and undermine Nutt just as he did later to Chizik at Awe-Burn.

Gussie was given The Call from Gawd and knew more and better than the only Ark coach to take Ark to 2 SEC Championship games.  (As a side note, when Saban left LSU, LSU asked Saban who would best the best replacement to hire --- Saban gave them one answer  Houston Nutt. Nutt was the only coach to beat Saban at two different SEC schools.

When Gussie came back to Ark, to Ark St, he did the same things in Eastern Ark he had done to piss off the H.S coaches in Western Ark while he was with Razorbacks.
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Brock Landers on November 11, 2019, 11:51:21 AM
Looks like Arky whacked Chad Morris yesterday after getting blasted at home by Western Kentucky lmao.  Perhaps Bielema can come back to calm the waters?  Never mind, they should be blowing up Leach's phone right now.
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: MakeItRain on November 11, 2019, 10:33:57 PM
Leach isn't taking that dog crap job. They better call Hugh Freeze.
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: KST8FAN on November 19, 2019, 09:20:32 PM
https://www.hdnews.net/sports/20191118/beck-resigns-as-pitt-state-football-coach


Tom

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Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: DaBigTrain on November 30, 2019, 10:19:06 AM
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: pissclams on November 30, 2019, 10:52:03 AM
they’re going after sean, donors are putting together the package as I type this. to say that they’re backing up a brink’s truck is an understatement
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: catastrophe on November 30, 2019, 01:35:08 PM
FREE story!
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: WildcatNkilt on December 01, 2019, 04:55:02 PM
Charlie Strong our at South Florida after 3 years. 
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: WildcatNkilt on December 01, 2019, 04:57:08 PM
Boston College fired Addazio.
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: WildcatNkilt on December 01, 2019, 04:59:23 PM
Texas fired their DC.
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Post by: muqluk on December 01, 2019, 05:14:16 PM
Texas fired their DC.
Should have happened months ago.
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: WildcatNkilt on December 02, 2019, 08:20:20 AM
Matt Luke out at Ole Miss after 3 seasons, 15-21 record. 
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Post by: Chingon on December 02, 2019, 01:58:58 PM
Petersen is out?
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Post by: manpow5 on December 02, 2019, 02:02:01 PM
No way Klieman gets poached, right?
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: ChiCat on December 02, 2019, 02:09:57 PM
I would be surprised if he gets poached but I do think he'll draw some interest.  I would be surprised if K-State doesn't extend him with a new contract.  His relationship with our AD makes it seem as though he has a good situation here.  The openings that would consider him also wouldn't be enough of a step up barring some personal connection, imho.
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Brock Landers on December 02, 2019, 02:25:02 PM
Wow that's surprising news about Petersen.  U Dub should get the carousel spinning pretty good.
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Post by: ChiCat on December 02, 2019, 02:25:25 PM
Wow that's surprising news about Petersen.  U Dub should get the carousel spinning pretty good.

They're promoting the DC.
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Brock Landers on December 02, 2019, 02:44:34 PM
Wow that's surprising news about Petersen.  U Dub should get the carousel spinning pretty good.

They're promoting the DC.

Ah.  Well that's disappointing for coaching carousel enthusiasts like myself.  Was this a HCIW scenario?
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Post by: deputy dawg on December 02, 2019, 04:53:16 PM
Wow that's surprising news about Petersen.  U Dub should get the carousel spinning pretty good.

They're promoting the DC.

Ah.  Well that's disappointing for coaching carousel enthusiasts like myself.  Was this a HCIW scenario?

News stories say that the succession plan had been in place for several years.
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: MakeItRain on December 02, 2019, 06:10:41 PM
I would be surprised if he gets poached but I do think he'll draw some interest.  I would be surprised if K-State doesn't extend him with a new contract.  His relationship with our AD makes it seem as though he has a good situation here.  The openings that would consider him also wouldn't be enough of a step up barring some personal connection, imho.

He's almost certain to get a $1 million raise per year. He shouldn't be that far behind Campbell.
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: WildcatNkilt on December 04, 2019, 09:04:45 AM

Missouri is a dumpster fire right now.  Their basketball team just lost to Charleston Southern last night, and currently hold a 4-4 overall record.  They deserve every bit of it, though.  SEC's greener pastures, though.

Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on December 04, 2019, 01:27:59 PM
just saw ISU gave campbell another year extension yesterday, so now its thru 2025.
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Post by: meow meow on December 04, 2019, 02:00:11 PM
thanks, big apple luke
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Post by: PurpleOil on December 04, 2019, 02:26:17 PM

Missouri is a dumpster fire right now.  Their basketball team just lost to Charleston Southern last night, and currently hold a 4-4 overall record.  They deserve every bit of it, though.  SEC's greener pastures, though.

Not to get all birther pit in here, but Missouri turned into a dumpster fire when they started letting the inmates run that asylum. It just so happens that moment occurred at the same time they moved to the SEC.

If that school burned to the ground, I'd laugh.
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Post by: mocat on December 04, 2019, 04:05:31 PM
lmao
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Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on December 04, 2019, 04:08:13 PM
thanks, big apple luke

hey shut up that was not mentioned ITT anywhere (did someone mention it in some other thread?)
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Katpappy on December 04, 2019, 06:45:45 PM
I would be surprised if he gets poached but I do think he'll draw some interest.  I would be surprised if K-State doesn't extend him with a new contract.  His relationship with our AD makes it seem as though he has a good situation here.  The openings that would consider him also wouldn't be enough of a step up barring some personal connection, imho.

What do you think we should pay our first year coach.  you do know he's the 28th highest paid coach in the CFS.  If you look at what he made his pervious years, maybe the 3.5mil KSU is paying is sufficient.
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: PurpleOil on December 05, 2019, 08:15:47 AM
He's completed one season. ONE. Let's see how he does in 2020 and 2021 before we start renegotiating contracts.
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Post by: meow meow on December 05, 2019, 08:21:27 AM
I would be surprised if he gets poached but I do think he'll draw some interest.  I would be surprised if K-State doesn't extend him with a new contract.  His relationship with our AD makes it seem as though he has a good situation here.  The openings that would consider him also wouldn't be enough of a step up barring some personal connection, imho.

What do you think we should pay our first year coach.  you do know he's the 28th highest paid coach in the CFS.  If you look at what he made his pervious years, maybe the 3.5mil KSU is paying is sufficient.

umm, he made 2.3M this year.
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: wetwillie on December 05, 2019, 08:39:51 AM
Rare whiff by katdaddy
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: ChiCat on December 05, 2019, 10:46:08 AM
https://sports.usatoday.com/ncaa/salaries/

I think he deserves to be paid in the top 40 in exchange for a much higher buyout in the next couple of years.  This would be pretty standard for a coach who was underpaid as far as P5 coaches go coming in.  Underwood had a similar deal at OSU, overachieved, and bolted when the admin played hardball. 
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Katpappy on December 05, 2019, 04:33:19 PM
I would be surprised if he gets poached but I do think he'll draw some interest.  I would be surprised if K-State doesn't extend him with a new contract.  His relationship with our AD makes it seem as though he has a good situation here.  The openings that would consider him also wouldn't be enough of a step up barring some personal connection, imho.

What do you think we should pay our first year coach.  you do know he's the 28th highest paid coach in the CFS.  If you look at what he made his pervious years, maybe the 3.5mil KSU is paying is sufficient.

umm, he made 2.3M this year.

This seams to state the mixup:  The salary pool for Chris Klieman’s inaugural staff of football assistants at Kansas State comes out to $3.55 million.  Add on Klieman’s base salary of $2.3 million and the Wildcats are spending $5.85 million on football coaches in 2019. They spent more last season ($7.08 million) with LHC Bill Snyder earning $3.5 million.
  https://www.kansas.com/sports/college/big-12/kansas-state/article224614975.html
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: meow meow on December 05, 2019, 04:37:43 PM
reading isn't for everyone
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Katpappy on December 05, 2019, 04:47:28 PM
reading isn't for everyone

I missed the part that it included his coaching staff.  :facepalm:
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: MakeItRain on December 05, 2019, 11:44:39 PM

Missouri is a dumpster fire right now.  Their basketball team just lost to Charleston Southern last night, and currently hold a 4-4 overall record.  They deserve every bit of it, though.  SEC's greener pastures, though.

Not to get all birther pit in here, but Missouri turned into a dumpster fire when they started letting the inmates run that asylum. It just so happens that moment occurred at the same time they moved to the SEC.

If that school burned to the ground, I'd laugh.

What does this mean?
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: KITNfury on December 06, 2019, 05:52:44 AM
 I assume the whole hunger strike from rich kid thing.
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: ChiCat on December 06, 2019, 08:03:15 AM

Missouri is a dumpster fire right now.  Their basketball team just lost to Charleston Southern last night, and currently hold a 4-4 overall record.  They deserve every bit of it, though.  SEC's greener pastures, though.

Not to get all birther pit in here, but Missouri turned into a dumpster fire when they started letting the inmates run that asylum. It just so happens that moment occurred at the same time they moved to the SEC.

If that school burned to the ground, I'd laugh.

What does this mean?

Right wingers think missouri sucks because the President was forced to resign in 2015.
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: PurpleOil on December 06, 2019, 10:16:23 AM
The President, the Chancellor, the Athletic Director all resigned, enrollment dropped by 35%, seven dormitories closed, 400 personnel were laid off, a professor caught on camera advocating for the physical assault of journalists just covering events...

but yeah, it's all just right winger bs.  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: ChiCat on December 06, 2019, 11:00:53 AM
The President, the Chancellor, the Athletic Director all resigned, enrollment dropped by 35%, seven dormitories closed, 400 personnel were laid off, a professor caught on camera advocating for the physical assault of journalists just covering events...

but yeah, it's all just right winger bs.  :rolleyes:

I'm not saying Missouri wasn't/isn't a dumpster fire.  I'm saying blaming it all on students for protesting is a stretch
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: resident LibBot dick holder on December 06, 2019, 11:13:21 AM
The President, the Chancellor, the Athletic Director all resigned, enrollment dropped by 35%, seven dormitories closed, 400 personnel were laid off, a professor caught on camera advocating for the physical assault of journalists just covering events...

but yeah, it's all just right winger bs.  :rolleyes:

 :lol:
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: MakeItRain on December 06, 2019, 04:29:29 PM
The President, the Chancellor, the Athletic Director all resigned, enrollment dropped by 35%, seven dormitories closed, 400 personnel were laid off, a professor caught on camera advocating for the physical assault of journalists just covering events...

but yeah, it's all just right winger bs.  :rolleyes:

Even if all that were true, it had nothing to do with their football program. It would seem more rational to just chalk it up to Odom being a mediocre coach, at a historically mediocre program. He averaged 6 wins in four years. That 6 wins matches the average of the last two coaches, the last four coaches, the last five, the last six coaches. But yeah, I'm sure Odom living up to what their historical standard has been is all the fault of the libs.
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: KST8FAN on December 07, 2019, 01:35:06 PM
https://www.koamnewsnow.com/sports/college-sports/report-toledo-oc-brian-wright-to-be-named-pitt-state-head-football-coach/1148930460

Tom

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Post by: Kid In the Hall on December 07, 2019, 01:42:58 PM
https://www.koamnewsnow.com/sports/college-sports/report-toledo-oc-brian-wright-to-be-named-pitt-state-head-football-coach/1148930460

Tom

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Seems like an odd move given his career arc (he's been D-I/D-IAA most of his career, now going down to DII). Is there some kind of local connection?
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: PurpleOil on December 09, 2019, 10:26:10 AM
The President, the Chancellor, the Athletic Director all resigned, enrollment dropped by 35%, seven dormitories closed, 400 personnel were laid off, a professor caught on camera advocating for the physical assault of journalists just covering events...

but yeah, it's all just right winger bs.  :rolleyes:

Even if all that were true, it had nothing to do with their football program. It would seem more rational to just chalk it up to Odom being a mediocre coach, at a historically mediocre program. He averaged 6 wins in four years. That 6 wins matches the average of the last two coaches, the last four coaches, the last five, the last six coaches. But yeah, I'm sure Odom living up to what their historical standard has been is all the fault of the libs.

It's not "even if that were all true", it is all true. None of it is up for debate. Also, it has a lot to do with the football program when the time frame that I'm talking about occurred.

https://www.si.com/college/2015/11/09/missouri-football-protest-racism-tim-wolfe


WildcatNkilt mentioned their b-ball program and move to the SEC. ChiCat brought up the President's resignation. I'm bringing it all together and saying that there have been institution wide problems that have bled over into all areas of the college that started in 2015.

tl;dr Mizzou is a dumpster fire.
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on December 09, 2019, 02:40:21 PM
Missouri is paying Drinkwitz $4 million per year.
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Post by: MakeItRain on December 09, 2019, 03:09:09 PM
The President, the Chancellor, the Athletic Director all resigned, enrollment dropped by 35%, seven dormitories closed, 400 personnel were laid off, a professor caught on camera advocating for the physical assault of journalists just covering events...

but yeah, it's all just right winger bs.  :rolleyes:

Even if all that were true, it had nothing to do with their football program. It would seem more rational to just chalk it up to Odom being a mediocre coach, at a historically mediocre program. He averaged 6 wins in four years. That 6 wins matches the average of the last two coaches, the last four coaches, the last five, the last six coaches. But yeah, I'm sure Odom living up to what their historical standard has been is all the fault of the libs.

It's not "even if that were all true", it is all true. None of it is up for debate. Also, it has a lot to do with the football program when the time frame that I'm talking about occurred.

https://www.si.com/college/2015/11/09/missouri-football-protest-racism-tim-wolfe


WildcatNkilt mentioned their b-ball program and move to the SEC. ChiCat brought up the President's resignation. I'm bringing it all together and saying that there have been institution wide problems that have bled over into all areas of the college that started in 2015.

tl;dr Mizzou is a dumpster fire.

So you completely ignored that Odom had a tenure exactly the same as every other Missouri football coach outside of three years of Drinkel's tenure? It's tough to make the point that Missouri's football program had any lasting impact given they look exactly like they've always looked.
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: Shooter Jones on December 09, 2019, 03:16:19 PM
https://www.koamnewsnow.com/sports/college-sports/report-toledo-oc-brian-wright-to-be-named-pitt-state-head-football-coach/1148930460

Tom

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Seems like an odd move given his career arc (he's been D-I/D-IAA most of his career, now going down to DII). Is there some kind of local connection?

Maybe he thought he was replacing Narduzzi?
Title: Re: Official 2018 Coaching Carousel (football edition)
Post by: PurpleOil on December 10, 2019, 08:38:22 AM
The President, the Chancellor, the Athletic Director all resigned, enrollment dropped by 35%, seven dormitories closed, 400 personnel were laid off, a professor caught on camera advocating for the physical assault of journalists just covering events...

but yeah, it's all just right winger bs.  :rolleyes:

Even if all that were true, it had nothing to do with their football program. It would seem more rational to just chalk it up to Odom being a mediocre coach, at a historically mediocre program. He averaged 6 wins in four years. That 6 wins matches the average of the last two coaches, the last four coaches, the last five, the last six coaches. But yeah, I'm sure Odom living up to what their historical standard has been is all the fault of the libs.

It's not "even if that were all true", it is all true. None of it is up for debate. Also, it has a lot to do with the football program when the time frame that I'm talking about occurred.

https://www.si.com/college/2015/11/09/missouri-football-protest-racism-tim-wolfe


WildcatNkilt mentioned their b-ball program and move to the SEC. ChiCat brought up the President's resignation. I'm bringing it all together and saying that there have been institution wide problems that have bled over into all areas of the college that started in 2015.

tl;dr Mizzou is a dumpster fire.

So you completely ignored that Odom had a tenure exactly the same as every other Missouri football coach outside of three years of Drinkel's tenure? It's tough to make the point that Missouri's football program had any lasting impact given they look exactly like they've always looked.

I see your point, and don't necessarily disagree. I'm just more willing to give the benefit of the doubt to a program that had won their division in 5 of the last 8 years in two different conferences prior to all this going down in 2015.