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Title: Good For Scott And Good For The Team
Post by: steve dave on July 13, 2017, 08:46:28 AM
http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/19983391/scott-frantz-kansas-state-wildcats-details-telling-teammates-gay
Title: Re: Good For Scott And Good For The Team
Post by: MeatSauce on July 13, 2017, 08:50:19 AM
 :ksu: :ksu:
Title: Re: Good For Scott And Good For The Team
Post by: SdK on July 13, 2017, 09:00:35 AM
Canary called it.
Title: Re: Good For Scott And Good For The Team
Post by: SdK on July 13, 2017, 09:01:38 AM
I'm also happy that he doesn't have to live his life in secret anymore. Very happy for him.
Title: Re: Good For Scott And Good For The Team
Post by: Dugout DickStone on July 13, 2017, 09:04:41 AM
Nothing but the best for that Cat.
Title: Re: Good For Scott And Good For The Team
Post by: OK_Cat on July 13, 2017, 09:08:31 AM
Takes a lot of strength in this part of the country. EMAW


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Title: Re: Good For Scott And Good For The Team
Post by: Tobias on July 13, 2017, 09:10:23 AM
very cool
Title: Re: Good For Scott And Good For The Team
Post by: treysolid on July 13, 2017, 09:39:10 AM
is this the "shocking" thing re: a starter on the team? if so, :yawn:
Title: Re: Good For Scott And Good For The Team
Post by: 8manpick on July 13, 2017, 09:49:21 AM
Actual question... Has an active college football player come out? At least a major college starter? IIRC Sam came out post season/pre draft
Title: Re: Good For Scott And Good For The Team
Post by: MakeItRain on July 13, 2017, 09:52:25 AM
Actual question... Has an active college football player come out? At least a major college starter? IIRC Sam came out post season/pre draft

I was just thinking about this, and I don't think it has happened before.
Title: Re: Good For Scott And Good For The Team
Post by: 8manpick on July 13, 2017, 09:53:45 AM
Actual question... Has an active college football player come out? At least a major college starter? IIRC Sam came out post season/pre draft

I was just thinking about this, and I don't think it has happened before.

I certainly don't remember hearing about it, but I also don't think I'd really think much about it if I heard of one and it wasn't a KState guy
Title: Re: Good For Scott And Good For The Team
Post by: MakeItRain on July 13, 2017, 09:54:24 AM
is this the "shocking" thing re: a starter on the team? if so, :yawn:

It's undoubtedly huge news, it's the lead story on espn.com right now, this will be gigantic national news this evening.
Title: Re: Good For Scott And Good For The Team
Post by: OK_Cat on July 13, 2017, 09:56:43 AM
He broke free from the shackles of judgmental Lawrence and can now be himself in Manhattan. 


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Title: Re: Good For Scott And Good For The Team
Post by: manpow5 on July 13, 2017, 10:03:29 AM
Sportscenter is nothing but SEC and Lonzo Ball.
Title: Re: Good For Scott And Good For The Team
Post by: GregKSU1027 on July 13, 2017, 10:08:23 AM
Not only is this good for our team but I think it is even better for us as a university.

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Title: Re: Good For Scott And Good For The Team
Post by: dmartin on July 13, 2017, 10:11:18 AM
Actual question... Has an active college football player come out? At least a major college starter? IIRC Sam came out post season/pre draft

From the article on ESPN:
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Frantz and incoming Arizona freshman defensive end My-King Johnson will be the first two openly gay active FBS players when the 2017 season kicks off.

In all seriousness, great for him, but "My-King Johnson"???
Title: Re: Good For Scott And Good For The Team
Post by: treysolid on July 13, 2017, 10:17:39 AM
is this the "shocking" thing re: a starter on the team? if so, :yawn:

It's undoubtedly huge news, it's the lead story on espn.com right now, this will be gigantic national news this evening.

it's a great thing and hopefully it emboldens other gay football players to be open about this to their teammates, but it doesn't fit my definition of "shocking". it would be more shocking if our team of 120 football players didn't have a single gay guy on it.
Title: Re: Good For Scott And Good For The Team
Post by: 8manpick on July 13, 2017, 10:25:59 AM
Actual question... Has an active college football player come out? At least a major college starter? IIRC Sam came out post season/pre draft

From the article on ESPN:
Quote
Frantz and incoming Arizona freshman defensive end My-King Johnson will be the first two openly gay active FBS players when the 2017 season kicks off.

In all seriousness, great for him, but "My-King Johnson"???
Fortunately Arizona doesn't kick off until 4 hours after us
Title: Re: Good For Scott And Good For The Team
Post by: SdK on July 13, 2017, 10:28:52 AM
Actual question... Has an active college football player come out? At least a major college starter? IIRC Sam came out post season/pre draft

From the article on ESPN:
Quote
Frantz and incoming Arizona freshman defensive end My-King Johnson will be the first two openly gay active FBS players when the 2017 season kicks off.

In all seriousness, great for him, but "My-King Johnson"???
Hahaha no doubt uses all sorts of plays on that.
Title: Re: Good For Scott And Good For The Team
Post by: star seed 7 on July 13, 2017, 10:37:51 AM
Was discussing this situation at a katpak this weekend, this is going to be very positive for the university and I hope the Lawrence types aren't too vocal
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Post by: cfbandyman on July 13, 2017, 10:38:29 AM
Go Cats and Go Scott  :lynchmob:
Title: Re: Good For Scott And Good For The Team
Post by: ChiComCat on July 13, 2017, 10:45:08 AM
Will hopefully push a lot of Kansans towards inclusiveness.  Excited for Kansas State to be at the forefront of the issue.  Excited that Scott had found support within the team.
Title: Re: Good For Scott And Good For The Team
Post by: 0.42 on July 13, 2017, 11:15:49 AM
cheers to scott :emawkid:
Title: Re: Good For Scott And Good For The Team
Post by: Pete on July 13, 2017, 11:18:51 AM
http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/19983391/scott-frantz-kansas-state-wildcats-details-telling-teammates-gay

Video is great.  Love that guy.
Title: Re: Good For Scott And Good For The Team
Post by: yoga-like_abana on July 13, 2017, 11:27:46 AM
we're gonna get gameday!  :emawkid:
Title: Re: Good For Scott And Good For The Team
Post by: WildcatNkilt on July 13, 2017, 11:33:19 AM
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2721442-kansas-state-lt-scott-frantz-comes-out-as-gay?utm_source=cnn.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=editorial (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2721442-kansas-state-lt-scott-frantz-comes-out-as-gay?utm_source=cnn.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=editorial)

and CNN!
Title: Re: Good For Scott And Good For The Team
Post by: DOD Take 2 on July 13, 2017, 12:15:28 PM
Actual question... Has an active college football player come out? At least a major college starter? IIRC Sam came out post season/pre draft

I was just thinking about this, and I don't think it has happened before.

If I recall correctly Sam didn't come out until after the season and came out to his teammates before the bowl game. I believe most teammates said they already knew prior to him coming out to the team. Could be mistaken tho.
Title: Re: Good For Scott And Good For The Team
Post by: Nick Florences Beard on July 13, 2017, 12:26:14 PM
it's a great thing and hopefully it emboldens other gay football players to be open about this to their teammates, but it doesn't fit my definition of "shocking". it would be more shocking if our team of 120 football players didn't have a single gay guy on it.

Yeah that would be very shocking. Hopefully it gets to the point where all players that are gay feel it can be known that they are gay and they can be open about it.

Very awesome that he felt accepted by the team and Snyder.
Title: Re: Good For Scott And Good For The Team
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on July 13, 2017, 12:28:00 PM
good for Scott. i hope his courage improves the lives of others.
Title: Re: Good For Scott And Good For The Team
Post by: The Big Train on July 13, 2017, 01:23:08 PM
:emawkid:
Title: Re: Good For Scott And Good For The Team
Post by: KITNfury on July 13, 2017, 01:30:18 PM
We'll rarely hear about this once the season starts.
Title: Re: Good For Scott And Good For The Team
Post by: kslim on July 13, 2017, 01:51:26 PM
is this the "shocking" thing re: a starter on the team? if so, :yawn:

It's undoubtedly huge news, it's the lead story on espn.com right now, this will be gigantic national news this evening.

it's a great thing and hopefully it emboldens other gay football players to be open about this to their teammates, but it doesn't fit my definition of "shocking". it would be more shocking if our team of 120 football players didn't have a single gay guy on it.
its awesome that this is happening but to say its gigantic news is dumb, these are the top stories on ESPN's front page...

    Cubs get Quintana from ChiSox for prospects
    Sources: Pelicans meet with free agent Rondo
    Venus fights off Konta, reaches Wimbledon final
    Freeze disappointed by timing of Nutt lawsuit
    Lonzo not in negotiations with Nike, LaVar says
    Vegas wins on Cubs fans' uncashed bet slips
    Law's midseason top 50 MLB prospects

Title: Re: Good For Scott And Good For The Team
Post by: stunted on July 13, 2017, 02:11:02 PM
no surprise he's from lawrence haha right guys?
Title: Re: Good For Scott And Good For The Team
Post by: porky morgan on July 13, 2017, 02:15:00 PM
Video gave me another reason to like Alex Barnes.
Title: Re: Good For Scott And Good For The Team
Post by: LickNeckey on July 13, 2017, 02:52:25 PM
Scott is a really good person.

very happy for him
Title: Re: Good For Scott And Good For The Team
Post by: steve dave on July 13, 2017, 03:19:39 PM
Scott is a really good person.

very happy for him

Yes, also a really good offensive lineman
Title: Re: Good For Scott And Good For The Team
Post by: pissclams on July 13, 2017, 03:23:02 PM
Scott is a really good person.

very happy for him

Yes, also a really good offensive lineman

you know him pretty well?
Title: Re: Good For Scott And Good For The Team
Post by: 'taterblast on July 13, 2017, 04:07:23 PM
i'm just really happy about this situation. proud that k-state can be associated with acceptance, proud that the team accepted him, proud that snyder reacted the way he did, and proud that no one went public with it for two years.

selfishly, i'm glad that i get to point to this to prove maybe k-staters are less hayseedy then some think. the reaction i've seen on twitter has been 99% positive. even Wabash Station is overwhelmingly voicing their support. i'm looking forward to the attention that we will get this season, maybe even increase our tv coverage.

go cats.

Title: Re: Good For Scott And Good For The Team
Post by: hatingfrancisco on July 13, 2017, 04:15:51 PM
i'm just really happy about this situation. proud that k-state can be associated with acceptance, proud that the team accepted him, proud that snyder reacted the way he did, and proud that no one went public with it for two years.

selfishly, i'm glad that i get to point to this to prove maybe k-staters are less hayseedy then some think. the reaction i've seen on twitter has been 99% positive. even Wabash Station is overwhelmingly voicing their support. i'm looking forward to the attention that we will get this season, maybe even increase our tv coverage.

go cats.

Well said.  :thumbs:
Title: Good For Scott And Good For The Team
Post by: catastrophe on July 13, 2017, 04:20:43 PM
Have not read most of the coverage, but what has Snyder said if anything?

Btw, I'm not shocked the team has a gay player, and I'm even less surprised the team and public reaction has been overwhelmingly positive. But I do agree with those that say this is a pretty big deal. This is good for KSU and great that Scott can be honest with himself and the team.

Who knows if it will make a bit of difference in the football field, but I know this: If we are good like we should be, the media will be all over our nuts with the great storylines this team has.
Title: Re: Good For Scott And Good For The Team
Post by: MakeItRain on July 13, 2017, 04:58:54 PM
We'll rarely hear about this once the season starts.

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Title: Re: Good For Scott And Good For The Team
Post by: TheTruth on July 13, 2017, 05:08:38 PM
Happy for Scott. Proud of the team. And proud of Alex Barnes for what he did, per the video.    :emawkid:
Title: Re: Good For Scott And Good For The Team
Post by: MakeItRain on July 13, 2017, 05:11:13 PM
is this the "shocking" thing re: a starter on the team? if so, :yawn:

It's undoubtedly huge news, it's the lead story on espn.com right now, this will be gigantic national news this evening.

it's a great thing and hopefully it emboldens other gay football players to be open about this to their teammates, but it doesn't fit my definition of "shocking". it would be more shocking if our team of 120 football players didn't have a single gay guy on it.
its awesome that this is happening but to say its gigantic news is dumb, these are the top stories on ESPN's front page...

    Cubs get Quintana from ChiSox for prospects
    Sources: Pelicans meet with free agent Rondo
    Venus fights off Konta, reaches Wimbledon final
    Freeze disappointed by timing of Nutt lawsuit
    Lonzo not in negotiations with Nike, LaVar says
    Vegas wins on Cubs fans' uncashed bet slips
    Law's midseason top 50 MLB prospects

Not sure what you're arguing for or against but when I posted that Scott's video was on the top of the page on espn.com. His story is currently on the front page of CNN.com and nbcnews.com
Title: Re: Good For Scott And Good For The Team
Post by: manpow5 on July 13, 2017, 05:17:34 PM
is this the "shocking" thing re: a starter on the team? if so, :yawn:

It's undoubtedly huge news, it's the lead story on espn.com right now, this will be gigantic national news this evening.

it's a great thing and hopefully it emboldens other gay football players to be open about this to their teammates, but it doesn't fit my definition of "shocking". it would be more shocking if our team of 120 football players didn't have a single gay guy on it.
its awesome that this is happening but to say its gigantic news is dumb, these are the top stories on ESPN's front page...

    Cubs get Quintana from ChiSox for prospects
    Sources: Pelicans meet with free agent Rondo
    Venus fights off Konta, reaches Wimbledon final
    Freeze disappointed by timing of Nutt lawsuit
    Lonzo not in negotiations with Nike, LaVar says
    Vegas wins on Cubs fans' uncashed bet slips
    Law's midseason top 50 MLB prospects

Not sure what you're arguing for or against but when I posted that Scott's video was on the top of the page on espn.com. His story is currently on the front page of CNN.com and nbcnews.com

Where? cause all I see is stuff on Trump
Title: Re: Good For Scott And Good For The Team
Post by: steve dave on July 13, 2017, 06:24:42 PM
i'm just really happy about this situation. proud that k-state can be associated with acceptance, proud that the team accepted him, proud that snyder reacted the way he did, and proud that no one went public with it for two years.

selfishly, i'm glad that i get to point to this to prove maybe k-staters are less hayseedy then some think. the reaction i've seen on twitter has been 99% positive. even Wabash Station is overwhelmingly voicing their support. i'm looking forward to the attention that we will get this season, maybe even increase our tv coverage.

go cats.

Same, good post
Title: Re: Good For Scott And Good For The Team
Post by: cat.branchman on July 13, 2017, 08:25:18 PM

K-State Named A Top Choice For LGBTQ Students

http://kcur.org/post/k-state-named-top-choice-lgbtq-students#stream/0

Title: Re: Good For Scott And Good For The Team
Post by: SdK on July 13, 2017, 08:36:02 PM
eff yeah!
Title: Re: Good For Scott And Good For The Team
Post by: michigancat on July 13, 2017, 10:06:29 PM
I'm happy for Scott and happy for Kansas State and happy for the state of Kansas. Good people deserve good things.
Title: Re: Good For Scott And Good For The Team
Post by: michigancat on July 13, 2017, 10:16:05 PM
I don't know Scott but you can tell that he is such a Kansas kid. He's me but probably lived terrified half of his life and isn't any more because he's surrounded by good people in Kansas and we should all be thankful for that.
Title: Re: Good For Scott And Good For The Team
Post by: The Big Train on July 13, 2017, 10:22:15 PM
Rusty? :excited:
Title: Re: Good For Scott And Good For The Team
Post by: That_Guy on July 13, 2017, 10:23:28 PM
I don't know Scott but you can tell that he is such a Kansas kid. He's me but probably lived terrified half of his life and isn't any more because he's surrounded by good people in Kansas and we should all be thankful for that.

This.


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Title: Re: Good For Scott And Good For The Team
Post by: joda on July 14, 2017, 12:53:54 AM
This shouldn't have to be a story, but it absolutely has to be.

Good for Scott. And unless someone else is emboldened to come out, K-State having the first openly gay football player to actually play a down of football is definitely a good thing for the program and university.
Title: Re: Good For Scott And Good For The Team
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on July 14, 2017, 09:15:49 AM
https://twitter.com/ScottFrantz74/status/885679783186759680

Quote
That being said, time to gow win a big 12 title.

 :emawkid:
Title: Re: Good For Scott And Good For The Team
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on July 14, 2017, 09:27:30 AM
Good for Scott. I understand that there's still a phobia of homosexuality in athletics and it takes courage to buck that trend. But also, looking forward to the day when people can just play football without feeling compelled to announce whether they prefer having sex with men or women.
Title: Re: Good For Scott And Good For The Team
Post by: Pete on July 14, 2017, 09:46:32 AM
There are really only winners in a deal like this. I mean, maybe a few losers, but they are just the tiny minority of bigots who are put off by this....mostly because they know the days of their line of thinking are numbered, and they are increasingly revealing their true hateful selves (which causes them some discomfort).

But, really mostly just winners!
Title: Re: Good For Scott And Good For The Team
Post by: manpow5 on July 20, 2017, 09:43:22 AM
Miller giving some love


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Title: Re: Good For Scott And Good For The Team
Post by: steve dave on July 18, 2018, 08:24:49 PM
We'll rarely hear about this once the season starts.

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thinking about NU hiring the homophobic piece of human garbage today and remembered this thread. there wasn't a thing mentioned all season as far as I recall. also imagine if you were a player in the closet and your team hired a piece of crap like Ron Brown.
Title: Re: Good For Scott And Good For The Team
Post by: MadCat on July 19, 2018, 08:52:14 AM
We'll rarely hear about this once the season starts.

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thinking about NU hiring the homophobic piece of human garbage today and remembered this thread. there wasn't a thing mentioned all season as far as I recall. also imagine if you were a player in the closet and your team hired a piece of crap like Ron Brown.

I think we should send a message that we welcome all transfers from NU who are uncomfortable with the hiring of piece of crap.
Title: Re: Good For Scott And Good For The Team
Post by: meow meow on July 19, 2018, 10:49:35 AM
no thanks, nebraska was 4-8 last year, or something equally embarassing