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TITLETOWN - A Decade Long Celebration Of The Greatest Achievement In College Athletics History => Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball => Topic started by: renocat on July 01, 2017, 08:02:13 PM
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I think these guys will counter the Oscar wussy factor. Sallah, "The Human Hyena", said he will do anything to win. Grit and gumption. Mawien, Mr. Mantool, sounds like he is grouchy and mean, like pulling the left legs off a beetle to watch it go in circles until it dies. Wainwright sounds ruthless like the pack hound that gets to kill the quarry, the killdog. He has been laboring for Turdeville Terrible and he ain't gonna blow this chance. What oscar team had grit, gumption, and meaness? His first.
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Nobody cares anymore.
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I care deeply about KSU basketball and like the players on this years team. Some places that is called being a fan. Sorry you don't care about the players on this years team and let your hatred of Weber cause you not to be a fan.
Three interesting players with some skills, strength, experience and maturity is what this thread is about. These three guys are going to add some dynamics to this team.
Also, if you don't care anymore, I struggle to understand why you care enough to tell everyone or even read this thread.
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I care deeply about KSU basketball
People that support oscar do not care deeply about KSU basketball. You are part of the problem.
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Sorry, What does Weber have with me being a KSU basketball fan. I was a fan before Weber got here and will be one after he is gone.
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it's what you do while he's here that matters. like with germans and hitler.
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Back to the subject of this thread. Wainright scored 14.2, 4.5 rebounds, 3.5 assists with a 2.1 assist to turnover on a juco team that ended up ranked 14 in the country. Fourth year of basketball after high school. Expected to back up the two and three as we have Brown and Sneed at those two spots. If he pushes either of those guys for starter minutes, that is a good thing.
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it's what you do while he's here that matters. like with germans and hitler.
Guess I'll do what I want to do.
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it's what you do while he's here that matters. like with germans and hitler.
Guess I'll do what I want to do.
hey cat97 me and everyone else here cordially invite you to get bent
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I care deeply about KSU basketball
People that support oscar do not care deeply about KSU basketball. You are part of the problem.
Nobody is supporting the coach, dumbass. Ppl support their alma mater and the 18-22 year old kids playing for their school.
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I have not said one thing about supporting or not supporting the coach. If supporting the players, discussing what the new players might bring to the team and actually rooting for this team to win makes me a bad fan, so be it. I'll keep doing what I want to.
Also, you are welcome to keep doing what you want to do.
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Live your life, cat97.
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Back to the subject of this thread. Wainright scored 14.2, 4.5 rebounds, 3.5 assists with a 2.1 assist to turnover on a juco team that ended up ranked 14 in the country. Fourth year of basketball after high school. Expected to back up the two and three as we have Brown and Sneed at those two spots. If he pushes either of those guys for starter minutes, that is a good thing.
Does anybody beside Reno have any thoughts on the three players he started this thread with? I understand some do not care about Weber but these guys are players and have not done anything except agree to play for K State. If you don't care, fine. Maybe a few of you have thoughts about what these guys might bring to the team next year.
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I'm in wait and see more. This is most like every year with oscar. I think you'll be hard pressed to find any in-depth talk about the upcoming season.
oscar has killed the joy of following recruiting and hoping for a good season for me.
Once the season starts I'll keep up with the cats.
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cat97 comes onto the University of South Carolina Basketball Board expecting in-depth talk about the Brucecats :lol:
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How are we going to replace Thornwell?
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cat97 comes onto the University of South Carolina Basketball Board expecting in-depth talk about the Brucecats :lol:
Agree it was a mistake on my part. Reno's op appears to be the definitive analysis.
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I care deeply about KSU basketball and like the players on this years team. Some places that is called being a fan. Sorry you don't care about the players on this years team and let your hatred of Weber cause you not to be a fan.
Three interesting players with some skills, strength, experience and maturity is what this thread is about. These three guys are going to add some dynamics to this team.
Also, if you don't care anymore, I struggle to understand why you care enough to tell everyone or even read this thread.
If you cared "deeply" about Kansas State Men's Basketball, you'd be committed to the idea of freeing these players from the prison they are incarcerated in by ridding the program of the stench of mediocrity that follows oscar Weber around like the aura around a 2 dollar whore trolling the streets of Houston on a sweltering summer night.
We once aspired for more. We can again.
That's why I drop a steamy log on putrid posts like this.
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I care deeply about KSU basketball and like the players on this years team. Some places that is called being a fan. Sorry you don't care about the players on this years team and let your hatred of Weber cause you not to be a fan.
Three interesting players with some skills, strength, experience and maturity is what this thread is about. These three guys are going to add some dynamics to this team.
Also, if you don't care anymore, I struggle to understand why you care enough to tell everyone or even read this thread.
If you cared "deeply" about Kansas State Men's Basketball, you'd be committed to the idea of freeing these players from the prison they are incarcerated in by ridding the program of the stench of mediocrity that follows oscar Weber around like the aura around a 2 dollar whore trolling the streets of Houston on a sweltering summer night.
We once aspired for more. We can again.
That's why I drop a steamy log on putrid posts like this.
I'm committed to analyzing and maybe even enjoying watching the players on this team and pretty sure I'm not going to have an effect on who coaches them for the next 8 or 9 months. I have no problem if you don't like these players. Thats how you roll.
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I care deeply about KSU basketball and like the players on this years team. Some places that is called being a fan. Sorry you don't care about the players on this years team and let your hatred of Weber cause you not to be a fan.
Three interesting players with some skills, strength, experience and maturity is what this thread is about. These three guys are going to add some dynamics to this team.
Also, if you don't care anymore, I struggle to understand why you care enough to tell everyone or even read this thread.
If you cared "deeply" about Kansas State Men's Basketball, you'd be committed to the idea of freeing these players from the prison they are incarcerated in by ridding the program of the stench of mediocrity that follows oscar Weber around like the aura around a 2 dollar whore trolling the streets of Houston on a sweltering summer night.
We once aspired for more. We can again.
That's why I drop a steamy log on putrid posts like this.
Ptolemy understands.
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The last few years we have had no depth up front. DJamer was good, but when he was hurt or in c foul trouble Claws had to play is position. Not good. Claws needs to be out away from the basket. Now with numbers he can play without worrying about fouling out. The two new late big guys are better than Bullweed. They give Love Stockard Shade time to develop. Killdog gives us a good rotation with Flush, Deathbite and Riphide. Sneed, wizYwow, he will be exciting especially with Wes gone, no more hogball. All of you guys that would piss on oscar's grave need to find a recipe for roasted crow and a ticket to bus. If oscar don't float this then he is dead sinking weight.
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I have not said one thing about supporting or not supporting the coach. If supporting the players, discussing what the new players might bring to the team and actually rooting for this team to win makes me a bad fan, so be it. I'll keep doing what I want to.
Also, you are welcome to keep doing what you want to do.
great post Kenn
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The people that complained to get Frank run out of town and the ones that support this sack of crap loser coach should be banned for life from attending any K-State sporting events once said sack of crap is finally done destroying this program.
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oscar isn't ruining the BB program FWIW.
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It's cute when posters think they have any control over the coach.
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The people that complained to get Frank run out of town and the ones that support this sack of crap loser coach should be banned for life from attending any K-State sporting events once said sack of crap is finally done destroying this program.
The results on the court this year will determine my position on Weber. Right now I support this group of 13 scholarship players plus walk ons and I actually hope we win games this year. I'm not cool enough to be a KSU basketball fan and root for them to lose. If that means you think I should banned for life, I'll still do my best to buy season tickets next year.
Back to the thread. Reno is right about depth in the front court. Mawien at 6 ft 9 averaged 41% from three last year and 2 blocks a game. Has put on 25 or so lbs since high school. Should be able to back up Wade plus play significant minutes at the 5.
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Cat97, some guys had the wallies soaked in chlorox and their blowhole rubbed raw with steel wool, and they lash out. I admire their hate zeal for weber and wetdreams for the 2nd coming of frank, but passion won't change things. I would rather have a good year with weber, than a Mizzou Anderson melt down. I think oscar success is good. I think he will leave for another job before he gets canned. If we go toiletville we won't be able to hire a good coach. I think we have some better than average players now, no studs, but we can wear other team's down. The Huggins model.
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Reno, thats about where I am at. The Weber deal will sort itself out and won't be changed before this season plays out and is not worth me giving it any thought. This group of players has a lot of interesting components to watch.
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yes so many interesting components! took the words right out my mouth Kenn!
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Ain't gonna be any whiny pouty privileged crap this year. If you aren't producing, there will be someone to take your place.
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:lol:
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What part of, "Nobody cares anymore" do you folks not comprehend?
This isn't anger at Oscar, revenge for Frank being run-off, or angst at Currie's mismanagement of people.
We can't muster the interest in the program anymore.
The administration doesn't seem to care that the team hasn't mustered a meaningful run in the post season in 7 years. There are no top flight McDonald's All American players coming to Manhattan anymore. When players leave the program, voluntarily or not, they don't go to Power 5 schools. They end up at lower tier programs or even jucos.
What kind of excitement can that mediocre effort at assembling excellence generate?
We don't care anymore. We can't.
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What part of, "Nobody cares anymore" do you folks not comprehend?
This isn't anger at Oscar, revenge for Frank being run-off, or angst at Currie's mismanagement of people.
We can't muster the interest in the program anymore.
The administration doesn't seem to care that the team hasn't mustered a meaningful run in the post season in 7 years. There are no top flight McDonald's All American players coming to Manhattan anymore. When players leave the program, voluntarily or not, they don't go to Power 5 schools. They end up at lower tier programs or even jucos.
What kind of excitement can that mediocre effort at assembling excellence generate?
We don't care anymore. We can't.
Seriously, what part of I don't care if you don't care do you not comprehend.
Also, If you follow KSU basketball, you would realize Wally Judge is the only McDonalds All American I remember since Huggins brought in Beasley. How did Wally work out. However, I am very happy Frank brought in a four star McGruder came with him and I loved watching him play. We have a couple of four star players on the team now.
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yes so many interesting components! took the words right out my mouth Kenn!
Seriously, I have no idea who you are referring to.
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referring to the interesting components obviously, read much :lol:
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We have a couple of four star players on the team now.
Who? Stars earned for spelling your name correctly in Kindergarten don't count.
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Who? Well at least you are discussing basketball.
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I'd love for more Iwundus. Top 5 favorite cat.
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Who? Well at least you are discussing basketball.
Who are the 4 stars on this team?
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Who? Well at least you are discussing basketball.
Who are the 4 stars on this team?
Sorry, Didn't think you were really wanting to know.
Rivals rankings listed below.
Xavier Sneed. Small forward. 4 STARS. Hazelwood Central Florissant,
Claws. Power forward. 4 STARS. Saint John Saint John, KS
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Sorry, Didn't think you were really wanting to know.
Rivals rankings listed below.
Xavier Sneed. Small forward. 4 STARS. Hazelwood Central Florissant,
Claws. Power forward. 4 STARS. Saint John Saint John, KS
ESPN's more realistic ranking would disagree...
Three stars...
http://www.espn.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/player/_/id/207448/xavier-sneed
No stars...
http://www.espn.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/player/_/id/203222/dean-wade
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And toward my original question....when can we expect to see another Elite Eight type run from this program?
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Yes, the zero star rating for Wade is more realistic. :ROFL:
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And toward my original question....when can we expect to see another Elite Eight type run from this program?
This was the statement you made. The administration doesn't seem to care that the team hasn't mustered a meaningful run in the post season in 7 years. The meaningful run in 7 years is fact although I was pretty satisfied with the team we had in Martins last two years and Webers first year..
I don't know how this team will do this year in the post season or if they even make the post season but I'll be watching. New administration with no former allegiance will make the program decisions.
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although I was pretty satisfied with the team we had in Martins last two years and Webers first year..
I don't know how this team will do this year in the post season or if they even make the post season but I'll be watching. New administration with no former allegiance will make the program decisions.
The teams Oscar has built (and been able to keep) are nowhere close in talent level to just the team Oscar inherited from Frank. There is no reason to think this team will appear in the NCAA tournament much less make an Elite-8-level run.
The apathy comes from us knowing that this program was heading nowhere under Oscar for several years prior to Currie's departure. So now we have to wait until the new AD figures out that Oscar is over-matched at the Power 5 level? How long will that take?
That's why we can no longer care.
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These secondary players will allow core Cats to blossom.
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These secondary players will allow core Cats to blossom.
Much like a mushroom sprouts from a moist turd.
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although I was pretty satisfied with the team we had in Martins last two years and Webers first year..
I don't know how this team will do this year in the post season or if they even make the post season but I'll be watching. New administration with no former allegiance will make the program decisions.
The teams Oscar has built (and been able to keep) are nowhere close in talent level to just the team Oscar inherited from Frank. There is no reason to think this team will appear in the NCAA tournament much less make an Elite-8-level run.
The apathy comes from us knowing that this program was heading nowhere under Oscar for several years prior to Currie's departure. So now we have to wait until the new AD figures out that Oscar is over-matched at the Power 5 level? How long will that take?
That's why we can no longer care.
You may be right about the talent on the team Weber inherited vs the talent on this team but McGruder at 15 pts per game was the only returning player averaging double figures. Will Spradling was next at 9 pts per game.
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I'll go with the 247 composite so only one four star on this team.
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I'll go with the 247 composite so only one four star on this team.
Point established that Oscar has, in balance, reduced the KState Men's basketball program in both performance and stature.
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I said you may be right about the team Weber inherited from Frank but if you look at the players on both teams closely, this team should have just as much potential.
Center - Henriquez Roberts, Gipson vs Mawien, Sallah, Shadd, Stockard and Love
Power Forward - Shane Southwell vs Claws, Mawien
Wing - McGruder vs Sneed, Wainright, Patrick
Two guard - Irving, Spradling vs Brown, Cartier Diarra, McGuirl
Point guard - Rodriquez vs Stokes, Cartier Diarra, McGuirl
Stokes play at point with backup from Diarra and McGuirl will determine if this years team can come close to being as good as Webers first team. Stokes after 1 and 1/2 years experience averaged 11.7 and 4.5 assists this year vs Angel after his freshman year at 8.3 and 3.2 assists. Angel stepped up his play and made that 2012/2013 team good. Stokes cutting down turnovers will be a key to whether this years team is successful.
Reno is also right about this years team having competition at each position.
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:lynchmob:
My point stands unchallenged.
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I don't think cat97 is hear to argue.
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I don't think cat97 is hear to argue.
Ptolemy and the rest of the #neverBruce movement are starting to run out of folks to listen to their testament.
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:lynchmob:
My point stands unchallenged.
Glad you feel good. I got it. You like Will Spradling better than Brown and Shane Southwell better than Claws and Mawien.
Just to make you feel secure with your point, this is a highlight video of Mawien that I'm sure you have seen before. I like post players that can hit step back threes and average 41% from three plus put it on the floor and drive. I like the 2 blocks per game also. The other bad thing is he is just a sophomore this year.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmgvCFSSEqk
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Last year in January people were starting to get tingly sensations in KSU BB willieweasels as we start good in conference, and nearly beat KU in chicken house. Then DJamer got hurt or slowed. Hothorndog to the rescue. Failure. Hell February. Why? No backup. Williams quit and Love was using the boot. Now we hAve 5 guys who can play the center position and 3 power forward. No longer does Claws have to be a post guy. I think this will help him to play with more abandoned fervor.
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Last year in January people were starting to get tingly sensations in KSU BB willieweasels as we start good in conference, and nearly beat KU in chicken house. Then DJamer got hurt or slowed. Hothorndog to the rescue. Failure. Hell February. Why? No backup. Williams quit and Love was using the boot. Now we hAve 5 guys who can play the center position and 3 power forward. No longer does Claws have to be a post guy. I think this will help him to play with more abandoned fervor.
Nobody cares anymore.
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Last year in January people were starting to get tingly sensations in KSU BB willieweasels as we start good in conference, and nearly beat KU in chicken house. Then DJamer got hurt or slowed. Hothorndog to the rescue. Failure. Hell February. Why? No backup. Williams quit and Love was using the boot. Now we hAve 5 guys who can play the center position and 3 power forward. No longer does Claws have to be a post guy. I think this will help him to play with more abandoned fervor.
Good post. Plus Claws can lose playing time if he does not play aggressively.
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A good number of these guys youre referencing as good post depth are completely unproven. And if oscar's track record with Bigs is any sign of things to come then alot of these guys will never step on the court (for whatever reason) or contribute .
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Finally, for those who care. (Please skip this post if you don't care)
This is the box score from the Iowa State game for the third guy Reno started this post with. Second game of the season so ISU was missing lots of shots to allow this many defensive rebounds. Still, Salah is a big strong guy that started every game last year for a tournament team.
Starters MP 2P 2PA 2P% ORB DRB TRB BLK TOV PTS
Mawdo Sallah 27 1 7 .143 3 11 14 1 4 2
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no one cares cat97
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Live your life the way you want, cat97!
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no one cares cat97
Nobody cares enough to not reply about how much they are not caring obviously.
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I follow cat basketball recruiting pretty closely but I've honestly never heard of Mawien or Sallah. Who are they and when did we get them on campus?
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This thread is my own personal bbs'n hell
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no one cares cat97
Nobody cares enough to not reply about how much they are not caring obviously.
no one cares
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no one cares cat97
You may have your caring ratcheted up a little higher than you want or you would let posts about next years players go unanswered. Keep trying though. I said I don't care about you guys caring but it's still good to know. Thanks
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no one cares cat97
You may have your caring ratcheted up a little higher than you want or you would let posts about next years players go unanswered. Keep trying though. I said I don't care about you guys caring but it's still good to know. Thanks
maybe you didn't understand me, no one cares
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I am looking forward to Ben Boyle belting out "Mawdo Sallah" after a big dunk shot, there is just so much for him to work with syllable wise
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no one cares cat97
You may have your caring ratcheted up a little higher than you want or you would let posts about next years players go unanswered. Keep trying though. I said I don't care about you guys caring but it's still good to know. Thanks
maybe you didn't understand me, no one cares
Good to know. Thanks Be sure to keep checking in case some other poster has an opinion or information on the team so you can let them know.
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#zapped
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M^2 needs to stay in the wacky obsession lane where he thrives, the last few days have been embarrasing.
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M^2 needs to stay in the wacky obsession lane where he thrives, the last few days have been embarrasing.
like i said, no one cares
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just watched the first few seconds of that video, but I don't see how he is going to adjust to the faster pace of NCAA D1 basketball
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just watched the first few seconds of that video, but I don't see how he is going to adjust to the faster pace of NCAA D1 basketball
No doubt adjusting to D1 ball will be a question as juco basketball is more guard oreinted. He did spend a red shirt year at Utah so practiced against 7 footer Poetl who is now in the NBA. Also attended the 2014 Lebron James skills camp so he has at least played against high level big men.
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I think its okay to not to care or be peaved, oscar has disappointed us. I choose not to have a nuclear burr up my butt and torqued at the world. I am going to have fun with basketball. The fun of new optimism and even the cussing oscar can be fun.
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especially the cussing oscar. basketball is fun.
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If 97 wants to talk hoops, let'em talk hoops FFS.
I don't see any oscar Weber pom poms waving
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Thanks to Reno for starting this thread, we did get a little basketball discussion about the three late signees. I don't even have a problem with those that do not care. That is their right.
Also, I won't be jumping in on many threads. Just where I see a thread that gives an opportunity to discuss basketball and the players on this team.
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Thanks to Reno for starting this thread, we did get a little basketball discussion about the three late signees. I don't even have a problem with those that do not care. That is their right.
Also, I won't be jumping in on many threads. Just where I see a thread that gives an opportunity to discuss basketball and the players on this team.
Hey 97, would you be willing to answer this question? TIA
I follow cat basketball recruiting pretty closely but I've honestly never heard of Mawien or Sallah. Who are they and when did we get them on campus?
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Thanks to Reno for starting this thread, we did get a little basketball discussion about the three late signees. I don't even have a problem with those that do not care. That is their right.
Also, I won't be jumping in on many threads. Just where I see a thread that gives an opportunity to discuss basketball and the players on this team.
Hey 97, would you be willing to answer this question? TIA
I follow cat basketball recruiting pretty closely but I've honestly never heard of Mawien or Sallah. Who are they and when did we get them on campus?
No problem. A couple of links with full details. The last paragraph of each article has comments from their current coach. I quess you could say Williams departure opened the scholarship for Mawien and the Maurice departure opened the scholarship for Sallah. These two guys are very EMAW - Emawien and Emawdo.
http://www.kstatesports.com/news/weber-announces-the-signing-of-makol-mawien-04-25-2017
http://www.kstatesports.com/news/k-state-adds-graduate-transfer-mawdo-sallah-06-20-2017
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just watched the first few seconds of that video, but I don't see how he is going to adjust to the faster pace of NCAA D1 basketball
No doubt adjusting to D1 ball will be a question as juco basketball is more guard oreinted. He did spend a red shirt year at Utah so practiced against 7 footer Poetl who is now in the NBA. Also attended the 2014 Lebron James skills camp so he has at least played against high level big men.
There goes Lebron trying to destroy K-State basketball again :shakesfist: Poor oscar
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http://www.kstatesports.com/news/weber-announces-the-signing-of-makol-mawien-04-25-2017
“He fills an immediate need for a veteran player who has experience at not only the community college level but at Division I while at Utah."
He redshirted his only season with the Utes in 2015-16 where he went up against All-American and Pac-12 Player of the Year Jakob Poeltl in practice.
oscar talk'n 'bout practice?
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Someone said it on the first page, I'll take an interest in basketball once basketball season is here (and likely after football is done) but with Oscar as the coach there's little reason to be excited. He hasn't disappointed us, he's exactly who most everyone thought he'd be, and that is someone trying to run a mid-major style at a major conference school. It doesn't work, we're going to keep being mediocre at best, he's going to keep giving minutes to Budke's who make me want to gouge my eyes out rather than watch them play.
We have little desire to talk offseason basketball because there's very little reason for optimism. I'll cheer for the players during the games, but oscar can sit on a shattered glass dildo for what he's done to my favorite team in my favorite sport
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I need the new chart of players and names immediately. it's really the only thing I like about ksu basketball.
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relax, it's friday
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Sorry, What does Weber have with me being a KSU basketball fan. I was a fan before Weber got here and will be one after he is gone.
Imagine your Mom (or wife) delivering you a daily meal after a hard day's work, gradually starts introducing unpalatable elements onto the plate. One year, it's steak and a side of lima beans. Next year, it's medium-rare liver with a side of maggots. The next year is a main course of a dense link of poop with a side order of barely fried worms.
At which point would you send the order back?
This is the state of KState basketball. We cannot allow this to continue. We cannot pretend a large link of steamy poop is something that can be swallowed by pretending it is "Hyena, Killdog, Mantool, Seasoned Meat, or Grit."
Do you understand?
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sounds like 'lemy isn't ready for the meatfart era
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Sorry, What does Weber have with me being a KSU basketball fan. I was a fan before Weber got here and will be one after he is gone.
Imagine your Mom (or wife) delivering you a daily meal after a hard day's work, gradually starts introducing unpalatable elements onto the plate. One year, it's steak and a side of lima beans. Next year, it's medium-rare liver with a side of maggots. The next year is a main course of a dense link of poop with a side order of barely fried worms.
At which point would you send the order back?
This is the state of KState basketball. We cannot allow this to continue. We cannot pretend a large link of steamy poop is something that can be swallowed by pretending it is "Hyena, Killdog, Mantool, Seasoned Meat, or Grit."
Do you understand?
You are now trying to convince other posters the players on this team are a large link of steamy poop. I'm impressed that you took time to study each of these seven newcomers in detail to reach this conclusion. Pretty impressive work for somebody who doesn't care. Now maybe you can list the details on each guy and why you think they are a steamy link of poop. (I'm sure you wouldn't make a claim like that about the players on our team without the knowledge to back up it up.)
How about starting out with why Wainright is a link of steamy poop?
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If part of assessing recruits is still looking at what options they had and where they ended up going
of or having to go, I'm confident all these guys are poop links, basketball-wise. Doesn't mean there isn't entertainment value to be found.
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I care! :bball:
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Sorry, What does Weber have with me being a KSU basketball fan. I was a fan before Weber got here and will be one after he is gone.
Imagine your Mom (or wife) delivering you a daily meal after a hard day's work, gradually starts introducing unpalatable elements onto the plate. One year, it's steak and a side of lima beans. Next year, it's medium-rare liver with a side of maggots. The next year is a main course of a dense link of poop with a side order of barely fried worms.
At which point would you send the order back?
This is the state of KState basketball. We cannot allow this to continue. We cannot pretend a large link of steamy poop is something that can be swallowed by pretending it is "Hyena, Killdog, Mantool, Seasoned Meat, or Grit."
Do you understand?
Pretty sure Budke graduated and now plays for the Knicks
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Sorry, What does Weber have with me being a KSU basketball fan. I was a fan before Weber got here and will be one after he is gone.
Imagine your Mom (or wife) delivering you a daily meal after a hard day's work, gradually starts introducing unpalatable elements onto the plate. One year, it's steak and a side of lima beans. Next year, it's medium-rare liver with a side of maggots. The next year is a main course of a dense link of poop with a side order of barely fried worms.
At which point would you send the order back?
This is the state of KState basketball. We cannot allow this to continue. We cannot pretend a large link of steamy poop is something that can be swallowed by pretending it is "Hyena, Killdog, Mantool, Seasoned Meat, or Grit."
Do you understand?
What was in the lunchbox when Frank(mom?) was bringing us lunch? Certainly weren't any trophy's in that brown paper bag.
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If part of assessing recruits is still looking at what options they had and where they ended up going of or having to go, I'm confident all these guys are poop links, basketball-wise. Doesn't mean there isn't entertainment value to be found.
If you start with Wainright,
After re-opening recruitment he chose K-State over LSU, Illinois, Boise State and Murray State,
Thats Illinois with Brad Underwood as coach.
Mawien went to Utah out of high school but had an offer from Gonzaga among others. He is a better and more developed player now than when he was in high school but was off the radar at a juco in Hobbs New Mexico. He committed to us after one year of juco ball and that probably helped us get in before other schools.
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How will the team make up for the loss of Wes? Watching last year, mainly the latter part of the season, I saw no one capable of stepping into his leadership role. I think his production can be replaced, but as far as a floor leader, I don't see it. Also his defense. I love Wes, I'll miss him.
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What was in the lunchbox when Frank(mom?) was bringing us lunch? Certainly weren't any trophy's in that brown paper bag.
http://cjonline.com/sports/catzone/columns/2017-07-08/kevin-haskin-frank-martin-senses-change-perception-final-four
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How will the team make up for the loss of Wes? Watching last year, mainly the latter part of the season, I saw no one capable of stepping into his leadership role. I think his production can be replaced, but as far as a floor leader, I don't see it. Also his defense. I love Wes, I'll miss him.
Good points but I'm actually more worried about his production on rebounds and defense. I think others can step up and lead but somebody still has to go get 7 rebounds a game that Wes was pulling down in the last half of the Big 12.
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We shall see how it plays out. I hope you are right about someone becoming a leader. I couldn't find an ounce of it last year.
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How will the team make up for the loss of Wes? Watching last year, mainly the latter part of the season, I saw no one capable of stepping into his leadership role. I think his production can be replaced, but as far as a floor leader, I don't see it. Also his defense. I love Wes, I'll miss him.
Wes waz a stud, but I'm far more concerned about losing DJamer and Maurice.
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I agree about center but went back and checked rebound numbers for DJamer and Maurice in the last 5 games last year. Those two combined averaged 6.6 rebounds in those 5 games. We should be able to replace those numbers with a combination of Sallah, Mawien and the three freshman, Love, Shadd and Stockard. All are 6 ft 8 to 6ft 9 and 225 to 240 lbs. Decent rebounders at their last level of competition. Scoring will probably be down from the center position as DJs numbers will be hard to replace and this years centers will not get many touches that do not come from an offensive rebound.
DJamer was not the same rebounder after the sprained ankle in the KU game. Nothing close to what he was earlier in the year. Overall rebounding was a weakness with this years team and how the players on this years team improve that area is a question mark.
. TT DJamer 4 Maurice 1 total 5
Baylor DJamer 7 Maurice 2 total 9
West V DJamer 6 Maurice 2 total 8
Wake F DJamer 6 Maurice 1 total 7
Cinc DJamer 2 Maurice 2 total 4
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What was in the lunchbox when Frank(mom?) was bringing us lunch? Certainly weren't any trophy's in that brown paper bag.
http://cjonline.com/sports/catzone/columns/2017-07-08/kevin-haskin-frank-martin-senses-change-perception-final-four
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Ran into him on Friday at the Vegas Summer Pro League. He was there to watch Thornwell and Dozier.
He trippin' so much, fans gonna begin to think he done fell off!
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Ran into him on Friday at the Vegas Summer Pro League. He was there to watch Thornwell and Dozier.
He trippin' so much, fans gonna begin to think he done fell off!
Man! Can you imagine where we'd be on the pecking scale if he was still here?
What a mismanaged clustercopulation that we are left with Gomer Pyle after running off Gunny Highway.
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I'm committed to analyzing and maybe even enjoying watching the players on this team and pretty sure I'm not going to have an effect on who coaches them for the next 8 or 9 months. I have no problem if you don't like these players. Thats how you roll.
What if we all did what you are doing?
The administration would view it as we love the way the program is headed - they are making money while the team is just below the MEH level. Why change course?
You see?
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When do you start not caring enough to stay out of this thread? I realize that by receiving feedback to your posts, I'm probably giving you the idea that you should keep posting. Don't interpret that way.
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When do you start not caring enough to stay out of this thread? I realize that by receiving feedback to your posts, I'm probably giving you the idea that you should keep posting. Don't interpret that way.
Ditto.
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I'm committed to analyzing and maybe even enjoying watching the players on this team and pretty sure I'm not going to have an effect on who coaches them for the next 8 or 9 months. I have no problem if you don't like these players. Thats how you roll.
What if we all did what you are doing?
The administration would view it as we love the way the program is headed - they are making money while the team is just below the MEH level. Why change course?
You see?
Back to the three players Reno started this thread with. Wainrights stats his freshman year at Penn Valley. 45.5% from three on 112 shots. 36% from three this year on 150 shots.
Trinity Valley Community College Head Coach Guy Furr:
“There are not enough good things that I can say about Amaad. He is a fantastic player who can do a little bit of everything, but he is an even better person off the court. I don’t know if there is a more excited person to be playing at K-State. He is just thrilled to be able to wear the Purple and White and follow in the footsteps of his grandfather and brother and play in the Big 12. He fills up the stat sheet. Some nights he would lead us in scoring, some nights in rebounding or some nights in assists. He is very unselfish and a great teammate. Simply, Amaad is a winner on and off the court.”
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When do you start not caring enough to stay out of this thread? I realize that by receiving feedback to your posts, I'm probably giving you the idea that you should keep posting. Don't interpret that way.
Ditto.
I regret not making an asp reference. Shame on me.
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Back to the three players Reno started this thread with. Wainrights stats his freshman year at Penn Valley. 45.5% from three on 112 shots. 36% from three this year on 150 shots.
Trinity Valley Community College Head Coach Guy Furr:
“There are not enough good things that I can say about Amaad. He is a fantastic player who can do a little bit of everything, but he is an even better person off the court. I don’t know if there is a more excited person to be playing at K-State. He is just thrilled to be able to wear the Purple and White and follow in the footsteps of his grandfather and brother and play in the Big 12. He fills up the stat sheet. Some nights he would lead us in scoring, some nights in rebounding or some nights in assists. He is very unselfish and a great teammate. Simply, Amaad is a winner on and off the court.”
Penn Valley?
PENN VALLEY??
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Back to the three players Reno started this thread with. Wainrights stats his freshman year at Penn Valley. 45.5% from three on 112 shots. 36% from three this year on 150 shots.
Trinity Valley Community College Head Coach Guy Furr:
“There are not enough good things that I can say about Amaad. He is a fantastic player who can do a little bit of everything, but he is an even better person off the court. I don’t know if there is a more excited person to be playing at K-State. He is just thrilled to be able to wear the Purple and White and follow in the footsteps of his grandfather and brother and play in the Big 12. He fills up the stat sheet. Some nights he would lead us in scoring, some nights in rebounding or some nights in assists. He is very unselfish and a great teammate. Simply, Amaad is a winner on and off the court.”
Penn Valley?
PENN VALLEY??
You must be a K State basketball fan that is very low on knowledge if you do not know Wainrights route to get to K State. He transferred to Trinity to find better competition on his brothers recommendation.
Too bad you didn't know the three point line at Penn Valley is the same distance as the one in the Big 12 and that was why I mentioned Penn Valley.
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cat97 is melting down hard af :frown:
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When you have a big hairy hamboney you ain't got nothing to prove to anyone. These three have Texas swingwangers in their jeans. This horse manure about where someone has been or who wanted them is Jayhawk elitist snobbery. Foster, Wes, and McGruder are the 3 best players in the Oscar era. 2 NBAs, and 1 likely. Who the hell wanted these kids out of high school? A lot of kids blossom as they get older. Hopefully it is one of the babies you hatch that blossoms. If not, go Viking and raid other programs. I think these guys are late bloomers and will help us have a better year than last. If not, I will have fun cussing weber and making moronic statements about his brainwaves.
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cat97 is melting down hard af :frown:
You are right meme. I forgot to tell you high bb IQ guys who his brother is. Should have but for a while I thought you guys didn't care.
He returned to his roots in Kansas City to begin his college career at Penn Valley Community College where he averaged 17.4 points, 8.1 rebounds and 4.3 assists as a freshman.
“A lot of my credits didn’t transfer to so that’s why I had to go to junior college,” Wainright said of changing high schools his senior year. “I wanted to go back home to Kansas City so that’s why I went to Penn Valley.
“It didn’t turn out like I hoped. My brother told me about Trinity Valley and that turned out to be a better fit for me.”
His brother, Ishmail Wainright, was a senior on the Baylor basketball team last season and Amaad found his comfort zone at Trinity Valley. Forced to redshirt the 2015-16 season due to an injury, he returned to action this past season and averaged 14.2 points, 4.5 rebounds, 3.7 assists and 1.5 steals.
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Can't wait to win ballgames!
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Nobody cares.
The coach is mid-major.
The players recruited are sub-P5-standard.
We have been worn-down.
Nobody cares.
If I trained mice to play basketball at a lower-than-P5-level, would you start a thread to discuss it?
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Gorillas I would comment about. Mice no, they would roll the ball around. Now Gorillas are teachable. Lemy we will be better than mediocre, good. Never great though 23 wins and 1 win in the tournament. My hope is that a couple of players become big 12 top players and we whup ol Bill at least once. Rooting for our team is like driving an old beater. The Thrill is just making to your destination, looks ain't important. Ugly good, like a fat grandma.
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The players recruited are sub-P5-standard.
https://twitter.com/OrlandoMagic/status/881974939246616576
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It's going to be fun to have a KSU guy to cheer for in the NBA.
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Can't wait until we're picked preseason dead last in the Big 12 and then we prove everyone wrong and finish 8th :excited:
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Can't wait until we're picked preseason dead last in the Big 12 and then we prove everyone wrong and finish 8th :excited:
Meow Meow rising and grinding for those paper trophies.