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General Discussion => The New Joe Montgomery Birther Pit => Topic started by: renocat on May 12, 2017, 07:03:14 AM
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From Wikipedia. "McCarthyism coined in 1950 in reference to McCarthy's practices, was soon applied to similar anti-communist activities. Today, the term is used in reference to what are considered demagogic, reckless, and unsubstantiated accusations, as well as public attacks on the character or patriotism of political opponents."
Trump wants ol Kobach to find all of them Damn illegal voters who voted against him. This is somekind of new wierd cartoon Dufus and Buttbrains. I encourage you to read about the history of the 1950s ans Sen Joe McCarthy. The point is this zealous nut had power of a commission (committee) to go after his perceived boogeymen and level false claims that destroyed people. He was later shown to be a nut. Squirrels chase Kobach.
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Obviously there was widespread voter fraud for The Donald to not have won the popular vote.
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wish pubs would quit wasting tax payer money on this stuff.
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wish pubs would quit wasting tax payer money on this stuff.
Who is paying for all of Kobach's non related expenses? Is this gloryhound giving us full day worth of work all of the time for Kansas? I agree big waste of tax dollars
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Up your voterhole Kobach. There is no reason to spend millions to study stupid. There is no rampant fraud. I am glad states are bird flipping this ignorant commission.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/20-states-refusing-to-provide-voter-data-to-trump-election-panel/ar-BBDuVo5
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He should make sn open records act request in each state. Let them violate their own law for partisan headlines.
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he's not even going to fully comply in kansas
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Poor kobach
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haha, 82% of the states told him to eff off. and he parades around as a proponent of states rights.
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Libtard Dave reads Huff Post :ROFL:
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While this is dumb, it's still hilarious to listen to Libs try to explain that there's a certain group of people utterly incapable of understanding how to obtain an ID.
Then Libs double down on the butthurt when comparisons to things that do require an ID are brought into the discussion.
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I can't believe something like this is ad hoc. Seems like something that would be continuously monitored.
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18 partisans refusing to provide publicly available information. Stunning
“I am requesting that you provide to the commission the publicly-available voter roll data,” Kobach wrote each state on June 28. If permitted by law, he said the commission wanted voters’ first, last and middle names or initials, addresses, dates of birth, political party registrations (if recorded), last four digits of Social Security numbers, voting histories for the last decade, felony convictions, military status, overseas citizen status, and any information regarding voter registrations in another state.
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“It is clear that it is a request for publicly available information,” said Samantha Poetter, director of public information for Kobach’s office. “This is the type of information that [a] political party or campaign requests on a regular basis from our office.”
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2017/07/06/trump_vote-fraud_panel_feels_heat_after_states_seal_data.html
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Once again, why is it so difficult to understand that district elections (and voter fraud) have been the catalyst for some of the biggest political careers in U.S. history?
First Congress (with voter fraud), then VP, then President.
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Is dax saying trumpublicans have stolen this country through massive voter fraud?
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Is dax saying trumpublicans have stolen this country through massive voter fraud?
If you count Harry Truman and LBJ as trumpublicans, you have a point.
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Here I was thinking it was a waste of money but I'm glad we're finally getting to the bottom of this Truman/LBJ nonsense.
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Will I be alive when we get to the Obama illegal stuff?
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Here I was thinking it was a waste of money but I'm glad we're finally getting to the bottom of this Truman/LBJ nonsense.
They're the litmus test of voter fraud changing the course of political history.
While one case was widespread aka vote early, vote often, even if your dead. The other was targeted precincts which proved to be the difference.
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I don't understand how anyone could possibly gaf if they want to study voter fraud and create policy aimed at minimizing/mitigating against voter fraud.
It's not like they're banning fracking on federal lands for no rough ridin' reason at all and in spite of their own research saying it's completely safe, just to effectively condemn a third party's business assets. There is literally no harm in studying this.
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I don't understand
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I mean, these are the people going around telling mexicans trump is going to deport them, so I'm not surprised, it's just a weird thing to freak out about (unless, of course, they're cheating, which they swear they aren't).
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I mean, these are the people going around telling mexicans trump is going to deport them, so I'm not surprised, it's just a weird thing to freak out about (unless, of course, they're cheating, which they swear they aren't).
Donald is the person going around telling Mexicans he's going to deport them.
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:lol:
Per, CNN.
I thought he was violating the emoluments clause by refusing to deport them and employing them in his hotels???? Which is it, libtards?????
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Drugs?
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Per, CNN.
I thought he was violating the emoluments clause by refusing to deport them and employing them in his hotels???? Which is it, libtards?????
Why can't it be both?
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Why can't anyone explain why they gaf about this?
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It's just about which party proposes it. That's what determines support and opposition as per usual.
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Our president tells us to speak up against witch hunts.
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True. Historically that was reserved for matter of importance. This seemingly falls into the category of renaming public parks.
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LOL
"I have no intention of honoring this request," said Virginia's Democratic Gov. Terry McAuliffe. "This entire commission is based on the specious and false notion that there was widespread voter fraud last November."
For commission members, the responses are hard to understand. "The reaction to this has been absurd," said Hans von Spakovsky, a former Bush Justice Department official, former member of the Federal Elections Commission, and head of the conservative Heritage Foundation's Election Law Reform Initiative, who is now serving on the Trump commission. "The commission is asking for voter registration and other information that is publicly available. Not only do all of the political parties buy this information routinely from secretaries of states — so do candidates."
It's true. Just look at, say, the Department of Elections webpage in Terry McAuliffe's Virginia. The department lists "client services" that include the purchase of voter lists. To candidates, parties, campaigns, and "members of the public seeking to promote voter participation," the state of Virginia will sell:
Registered Voter List (RVL) and Newly Registered Voter List (NRV) — full name, residence address, mailing address, gender, date of birth, registration date, date last registration form received, registration status, locality, precinct, voting districts and voter identification number.
Want the data in slightly different form? Virginia also sells:
List of Those Who Voted (LTWV) — full name, residence address, mailing address, gender, date of birth, registration date, date last registration form received, registration status, locality, precinct, voting districts, voter identification number, election date, election type, and whether the voter voted in-person or absentee.
For another example, look at the state of Maine, which has also refused to cooperate with the commission, but which by law spells out the types of voter information it will sell:
The secretary of state or the registrar shall make available the following voter record information, subject to the fees set forth in subsection 2: the voter's name, residence address, mailing address, year of birth, enrollment status, electoral districts, voter status, date of registration, date of change of the voter record if applicable, voter participation history, voter record number and any special designations indicating uniformed service voters, overseas voters or township voters.
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/byron-york-why-the-rebellion-over-trump-voter-commission/article/2627849
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Oh my, lots of people scared they're gonna get caught:
https://twitter.com/Taniel/status/885948315443089409
Haha, what a fucktard:
https://twitter.com/kairyssdal/status/885965864566005760
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:sdeek:
https://twitter.com/WSJ/status/886568121003376641
Dark red state, fwiw
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?“The truth remains that it is more likely for someone to be struck by lightning than for someone to have committed voter fraud,” Rep. Raul Grijalva (D-Ariz.) said in May. “Voter fraud is a non-issue in our country.”These and other Leftists ignore concrete proof that vote fraud exists:
In May 2016, CBS2 Los Angeles identified 265 dead voters in southern California. Many cast ballots “year after year.”
?The Heritage Foundation’s non-exhaustive survey confirms, since 2000, at least 742 criminal vote-fraud convictions.
North Carolina announced in April 2014 that 13,416 dead voters were registered, and 81 of them recently had voted. Among 35,750 North Carolinians also registered in other states, 765 voted in November 2012, both inside and outside the Tarheel State.
?South Carolina’s attorney general concluded in January 2012 that 953 people “were deceased at the time of their participation in recent elections.”
?The Public Interest Legal Foundation recently discovered that Virginia removed 5,556 non-citizens from its voter rolls between 2011 and last May. Among these non-Americans, 1,852 had cast a total of 7,474 illegal ballots across multiple elections.
Craftier liberals have inched away from the baseless “Vote fraud = Loch Ness Monster” argument. Now, some claim, vote fraud is not “widespread.”
Gov. Terry McAuliffe (D-Va.), a long-time Clinton confidante, vetoed a bill in February that would have required probes of elections in which the number of ballots cast exceeded the number of voters eligible to cast them. How could any honest person oppose such a measure?
During the 2000 Bush v. Gore disaster, Democrats shouted, “Count every vote!” In their more admirable moments, Democrats were among those who demanded, “One man. One vote.”
Today, in order to preserve the dodgy electoral system that seems to benefit them when fishy things happen, their battle cries have devolved into “Count every vote, but don’t worry if some of them are negated by fake ones” and “One man. One vote. Usually.”
This is pathetic. If Democrats will tolerate non-widespread vote fraud, how many phony ballots are they willing to see neutralize genuine ones? 265? 765? 7,474?
And whose legitimate ballots should be vaporized so that, in essence, fraudulent ballots can be cast and counted in peace? Sen. Sanders, let’s start with yours.
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Id care more about voter fraud if the election was decided by popular vote.
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Why? It's recently been decided by hundreds of votes in florida
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Until every vote counts, I don't care to pretend that every vote counts.
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https://twitter.com/MSNBC/status/887750419509788672
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Apparently Kobach has not been giving information to Democrats on his rigged election commission. One member sued him, and won. Do you really want this guy for Governor?
From CBS, "The commission is led by Vice President Mike Pence and Kansas Secretary of State Kris Kobach. It has come under sustained criticism since its inception, as has Trump for claiming without evidence that widespread voter fraud occurred in last year's presidential election and cost him the popular vote.
Dunlap argued in a Washington Post op-ed last month that the "commission is cloaking itself in secrecy" and doing so in violation of federal law.
He told the court that as a member of the commission, he had not had equal access to documents from the commission and requested a court order granting him access."
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Oh man, I can't believe the commission dissolved before it found those 3-5 million illegal votes.
http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/367343-trump-dissolves-voter-fraud-commission
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The Commission To Nowhere
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The Commission To Nowhere
And this self obsessed glory hog wants to be gov. Kobach Kansas to nowhere.
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Oh man, I can't believe the commission dissolved before it found those 3-5 million illegal votes.
http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/367343-trump-dissolves-voter-fraud-commission
As Kobach said, we will never know if Killary really won the popular vote. Fan the flames.
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https://www.denverpost.com/2018/01/05/kansas-election-chief-charges-voter-fraud/
:lol:
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got 'em
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2 down, 3-5 million more to go.
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:lol:
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That last paragraph was especially nice
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2 down, 3-5 million more to go.
Really probably more like negative 2 down. Registered republicans per the article so most likely Trump voters.
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http://www.kansas.com/latest-news/article204224234.html
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http://www.kansas.com/latest-news/article204224234.html
No wonder he got into politics.
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We already know Kobach is bad at his job.
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have been following on twitter. Seems like a shlt show
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https://twitter.com/AriBerman/status/976211122566107136
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Would love a picture of Krissy in the clown suit the ACLU stitched up for him.
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incred
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What a surprise
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If you want results, give the Kase to Kris Kobach
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If you want results, give the Kase to Kris Kobach
Be careful of what you say about our future governor. :'bye cruel world:
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https://twitter.com/dominicholden/status/1025473712173264896
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Dax’s neighbors just managed to slip through the cracks.
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https://twitter.com/dominicholden/status/1025473712173264896
bwhaaaaaat?
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https://thinkprogress.org/second-county-north-carolina-fraud-b098ee70ccbf/
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Yeah so is this the de facto voter fraud thread now? Because there has been a shitload of it in the news the last few weeks, but I haven’t heard the daxes and FSDs and Dubzes talk much about it. I wonder why that could be? :dunno:
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Dub is on sabbatical to re-energize his trump batteries
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...again?
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It's in the blue wave thread, I think. That started simetime after some polling place in Georgia forgot extension cords, but before California legalized voter fraud to turn a half dozen or so house seats blue.
You guys know Thinkprogress is not a legitimate news source, right?
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It's in the blue wave thread, I think. That started simetime after some polling place in Georgia forgot extension cords, but before California legalized voter fraud to turn a half dozen or so house seats blue.
You guys know Thinkprogress is not a legitimate news source, right?
:lol:
Isn't james clapper the WMD guy? Quite the pickle for the useful idiots.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/thinkprogress.org/amp/p/8fcc73cd1be7?client=ms-android-verizon
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https://twitter.com/StolpWSOC9/status/1157027079139004418
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Remember, voter fraud isn’t a thing (LibDerp Nation)
Yet multiple LibDerp icons used voter fraud (and crime syndicate and major war profiteer backing) to begin their ascent to the Oval Office.
History doesn’t matter. (The Big Dummy)
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Lol, nice try dax roflmao
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Voter fraud isn’t real Lib, you guys said so.
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it's certainly real. and there are some mug shots to prove it.
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Voter fraud isn’t real Lib, you guys said so.
That's not what the demonrats said.
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Voter fraud isn’t real Lib, you guys said so.
That's not what the demonrats said.
Oh wait “widespread voter fraud”. But it doesn’t take “widespread voter fraud” to begin the ascent to power. See Also: LBJ
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Nobody here was even alive when LBJ was alive.
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Nobody here was even alive when LBJ was alive.
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That doesn't change anything relative to the topic at hand.
Like the most :lol: tapout you guys come up with.
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P sure dax was born during jfk or Ike
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P sure dax was born during jfk or Ike
Lincoln
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Nobody here was even alive when LBJ was alive.
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WTF!!! :surprised:
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Nobody here was even alive when LBJ was alive.
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https://twitter.com/CraigBrown_BP/status/1268234898269261824
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https://twitter.com/CraigBrown_BP/status/1268234898269261824
:thumbs:
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https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.politico.com/amp/news/2020/07/14/kansas-gop-rep-watkins-indicted-for-voter-fraud-362072
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This is going very well for the trumpers
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So do we have any confirmed cases of voter fraud not involving Republicans?
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So do we have any confirmed cases of voter fraud not involving Republicans?
i don't know about confirmed (yet), but dax posted an article from new jersey that certainly sounded like election fraud.
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very excited for confirmation of Dem skullduggery.
Kobach vindication train is warming up.
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Ron Estes (fat bald loser) just endorsed Steve Watkins’s (alleged voter frauder)’s opponent
Lmao
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I have not fact checked this
https://twitter.com/AriBerman/status/1461075393805443079?t=gnKhICIgxECsC7Okk7n7OA&s=19