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Title: Bumping airline common passengers so big shots can fly.
Post by: renocat on April 12, 2017, 08:08:57 AM
Shameful what Uiznited Airliners did to the poor Chinese guy who just wanted to go home. Beating the hell out of him and dragging him off the plane so company guy gets his seat is sick.  If I buy a plane seat it should be mine to use.
Title: Re: Bumping airline passengers by thumping so company guys can fly.
Post by: steve dave on April 12, 2017, 08:16:07 AM
free market
Title: Re: Bumping airline passengers by thumping so company guys can fly.
Post by: Yard Dog on April 12, 2017, 08:39:27 AM
free market

I wonder if someone had to pay >$100 more for a flight so that it was an airline not named United if they would stick to their moral guns. . .or take the deal.

My gut says the average person will always choose the cheaper flight no matter how they feel about the specific airline.
Title: Re: Bumping airline passengers by thumping so company guys can fly.
Post by: catastrophe on April 12, 2017, 09:12:04 AM
A lot of great memes came out of this. That's the only thing I care about.
Title: Re: Bumping airline passengers by thumping so company guys can fly.
Post by: cfbandyman on April 12, 2017, 09:29:57 AM
A lot of great memes came out of this. That's the only thing I care about.

That there are. Just a cluster for them.

free market

I wonder if someone had to pay >$100 more for a flight so that it was an airline not named United if they would stick to their moral guns. . .or take the deal.

My gut says the average person will always choose the cheaper flight no matter how they feel about the specific airline.

Probably true, equally true though would be how many instances that would actually be true. Unless it's a specific hub/destination, most flights are, shockingly, not that far off from each other. And honestly, the last time I flew United was Chicago-KC leg of an international trip about 2 years ago, and before that I think I was 5. All the other times it's all been either Southwest, Delta, or American. Really, the PR is just a nightmare for them, that's the real hot take. United was just barely getting over trying to turn their image around, and then this happens. Oh well, sucks to suck.
Title: Re: Bumping airline passengers by thumping so company guys can fly.
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on April 12, 2017, 10:13:11 AM
free market

More like crony capitalism. The contract allows United to "refuse boarding" - he was already boarded. So then they start auctioning the seats, which I'm fine with, until they decided they didn't want to pay any more than $800 and brought the gestapo in to crack some skulls.

I'm fine with the practice of overbooking flights in theory. It was actually invented by a prominent economist and has yielded the airlines something like $100 billion. But the tradeoff is that just like a casino, occasionally you gotta pay out.

What would be fun is if they made it a bidding process. Who will take $1000? The gentleman in the back. Do I have $900? And so on.
Title: Re: Bumping airline passengers by thumping so company guys can fly.
Post by: catastrophe on April 12, 2017, 10:35:58 AM
Reverse auction sounds kinda fun.
Title: Re: Bumping airline passengers by thumping so company guys can fly.
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on April 12, 2017, 11:04:01 AM
Reverse auction sounds kinda fun.

You know Southwest would make it fun. Oh those wacky flight attendants!
Title: Re: Bumping airline passengers by thumping so company guys can fly.
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on April 12, 2017, 11:20:22 AM
I won't fly united unless it's the only option. If they aren't trying to kick you off the plane for over bookimg, they're cancellimg your flight bc it's underbooked and then stickimg you on standby for an overbooked flight.

eff them.
Title: Re: Bumping airline passengers by thumping so company guys can fly.
Post by: sys on April 12, 2017, 02:54:23 PM
when a passenger purchases a ticket in good faith and the airline decides that they will not honor that ticket, not due to an act of god, not due to the behavior of the passenger, not due to safety considerations.  not due any externality, but solely because they believe it to be more profitable to transport another person in his stead, that is a failure of the free market.

when the free market fails, regulation may be the only solution.
Title: Re: Bumping airline passengers by thumping so company guys can fly.
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on April 12, 2017, 03:36:40 PM
when a passenger purchases a ticket in good faith and the airline decides that they will not honor that ticket, not due to an act of god, not due to the behavior of the passenger, not due to safety considerations.  not due any externality, but solely because they believe it to be more profitable to transport another person in his stead, that is a failure of the free market.

when the free market fails, regulation may be the only solution.

This may be one of the dumber things you've ever posted. Contracts are not a failure of the free market. Airlines are able to reduce ticket prices across the board because they can fly more efficiently with overbooking. When you buy a ticket, you contractually take the risk the airline won't be able to seat you because they overbooked, and in exchange you get a cheaper ticket. You want to end the practices of overbooking by regulation? Prepare to pay more money due to less efficiency.

The problem with United wasn't the overbooking. It was not honoring their contract and then using police force to save some bucks.
Title: Re: Bumping airline passengers by thumping so company guys can fly.
Post by: sys on April 12, 2017, 03:43:05 PM
i didn't say anything about overbooking, you dumbass.
Title: Re: Bumping airline passengers by thumping so company guys can fly.
Post by: steve dave on April 12, 2017, 03:46:57 PM
when a passenger purchases a ticket in good faith and the airline decides that they will not honor that ticket, not due to an act of god, not due to the behavior of the passenger, not due to safety considerations.  not due any externality, but solely because they believe it to be more profitable to transport another person in his stead, that is a failure of the free market.

when the free market fails, regulation may be the only solution.

the free market will sort all that out
Title: Bumping airline passengers by thumping so company guys can fly.
Post by: catastrophe on April 12, 2017, 03:47:22 PM
Contracts of adhesion shouldn't be confused with free market. I'm not aware of any airline that offers a guaranteed seat option on tickets.

What airlines should do (some may already) is say explicitly before you purchase a ticket: "This ticket does not guarantee you a seat. If a flight is oversold for any reason and you check in after all seats are spoken for, you will have to find another flight." The problem here, which I'm surprised has not gotten more play, is the sheer incompetence of United by realizing--only after all passengers were SEATED (not checked in, not preboarding)--that they needed extra spots in the flight for EMPLOYEES, who they surely knew well before would be on the plane.
Title: Re: Bumping airline passengers by thumping so company guys can fly.
Post by: sys on April 12, 2017, 03:50:40 PM
the free market will sort all that out

the market is hardly free and it's already demonstrated an inability to respond to the problem.
Title: Re: Bumping airline passengers by thumping so company guys can fly.
Post by: catastrophe on April 12, 2017, 03:53:18 PM
Aren't airlines as heavily subsidized and regulated as you can get without being government run?
Title: Re: Bumping airline passengers by thumping so company guys can fly.
Post by: steve dave on April 12, 2017, 04:30:14 PM
the free market will sort all that out

the market is hardly free and it's already demonstrated an inability to respond to the problem.

It has already responded plenty
Title: Re: Bumping airline passengers by thumping so company guys can fly.
Post by: steve dave on April 12, 2017, 04:30:38 PM
Aren't airlines as heavily subsidized and regulated as you can get without being government run?

I think you may be thinking of farmers
Title: Re: Bumping airline passengers by thumping so company guys can fly.
Post by: stunted on April 12, 2017, 04:39:19 PM
surprised the bigger issue is being ignored - racism
Title: Re: Bumping airline passengers by thumping so company guys can fly.
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on April 12, 2017, 05:17:41 PM
Contracts of adhesion shouldn't be confused with free market. I'm not aware of any airline that offers a guaranteed seat option on tickets.

What airlines should do (some may already) is say explicitly before you purchase a ticket: "This ticket does not guarantee you a seat. If a flight is oversold for any reason and you check in after all seats are spoken for, you will have to find another flight." The problem here, which I'm surprised has not gotten more play, is the sheer incompetence of United by realizing--only after all passengers were SEATED (not checked in, not preboarding)--that they needed extra spots in the flight for EMPLOYEES, who they surely knew well before would be on the plane.

It's usually printed on the ticket itself.
Title: Re: Bumping airline passengers by thumping so company guys can fly.
Post by: catastrophe on April 12, 2017, 05:34:15 PM
Contracts of adhesion shouldn't be confused with free market. I'm not aware of any airline that offers a guaranteed seat option on tickets.

What airlines should do (some may already) is say explicitly before you purchase a ticket: "This ticket does not guarantee you a seat. If a flight is oversold for any reason and you check in after all seats are spoken for, you will have to find another flight." The problem here, which I'm surprised has not gotten more play, is the sheer incompetence of United by realizing--only after all passengers were SEATED (not checked in, not preboarding)--that they needed extra spots in the flight for EMPLOYEES, who they surely knew well before would be on the plane.

It's usually printed on the ticket itself.

Which is pretty ridiculous considering you have to give them your money before they tell you the terms.
Title: Re: Bumping airline passengers by thumping so company guys can fly.
Post by: Emo EMAW on April 12, 2017, 05:34:40 PM
If you have a printed ticket you deserve to get bumped.
Title: Re: Bumping airline passengers by thumping so company guys can fly.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on April 12, 2017, 06:04:31 PM
If you have a printed ticket you deserve to get bumped.

I had a United flight a month ago and it said that mobile boarding pass was not an option.
Title: Re: Bumping airline passengers by thumping so company guys can fly.
Post by: Trim on April 12, 2017, 06:10:26 PM
I book united for flights I don't want to go on, expecting they won't happen.
Title: Re: Bumping airline passengers by thumping so company guys can fly.
Post by: star seed 7 on April 12, 2017, 07:01:02 PM
 :lol:
Title: Re: Bumping airline passengers by thumping so company guys can fly.
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on April 12, 2017, 07:10:53 PM
I must be on the wrong flights. It's only happened a few times and people always took the $300 offer. Chumps.
Title: Re: Bumping airline passengers by thumping so company guys can fly.
Post by: steve dave on April 13, 2017, 07:29:59 AM
I've passed up $800 before. If they would have said 40K united miles I'd have told mrs. dave I'd see her the next day at some point. which is weird because the value is about equal but my goodness if I just don't love me some airline miles.
Title: Re: Bumping airline passengers by thumping so company guys can fly.
Post by: The Big Train on April 13, 2017, 07:38:02 AM
Airline miles: just another notch on SD's belt
Title: Re: Bumping airline passengers by thumping so company guys can fly.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on April 13, 2017, 08:21:32 AM
I love the memes coming out of this thing.
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Title: Re: Bumping airline passengers by thumping so company guys can fly.
Post by: Dugout DickStone on April 13, 2017, 08:36:49 AM
who gets off a flight for $300?
Title: Re: Bumping airline passengers by thumping so company guys can fly.
Post by: catastrophe on April 13, 2017, 09:14:23 AM
who gets off a flight for $300?

People on their way to visit in laws.
Title: Re: Bumping airline passengers by thumping so company guys can fly.
Post by: catastrophe on April 13, 2017, 09:35:25 AM
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170413/b399159afbd13d69408a27cc53b473dc.jpg)
Title: Re: Bumping airline passengers by thumping so company guys can fly.
Post by: Institutional Control on April 13, 2017, 10:34:42 AM
who gets off a flight for $300?

I did once.  They put me on a flight 2 hours later in First Class.
Title: Re: Bumping airline passengers by thumping so company guys can fly.
Post by: Dugout DickStone on April 13, 2017, 11:53:20 AM
who gets off a flight for $300?

I did once.  They put me on a flight 2 hours later in First Class.

Not worth it
Title: Re: Bumping airline passengers by thumping so company guys can fly.
Post by: Institutional Control on April 13, 2017, 11:58:39 AM
who gets off a flight for $300?

I did once.  They put me on a flight 2 hours later in First Class.

Not worth it

Back then I didn't have anywhere I had to be. The bump up to first class for Albany to Chicago and Chicago to KC was almost worth the two hours in the airport bar. The $300 just sealed the deal.  That was 1999, with inflation and a higher valuation of my time, I wouldn't take that deal today.
Title: Re: Bumping airline passengers by thumping so company guys can fly.
Post by: Dugout DickStone on April 13, 2017, 12:00:31 PM
 You didn't tell me it was on a flight flown by the Charles Lindbergh
Title: Re: Bumping airline passengers by thumping so company guys can fly.
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on April 13, 2017, 12:04:28 PM
true story alert*

-I once allowed AA to bump me for $300 once. this was five years ago and in Austin where one of my best friends lives. they put me on another flight that would have me getting into mhk one hour later. then they wanted to bump me on that flight and put me on one that would get there three hours later. I said yeah whatever. then they wanted to bump me from that, put me up in a hotel and fly me out the next day and give me another $300. I was like yeah sure whatever. so it was $900 total and I didn't take the hotel but just ened up hanging out with my friend for an extra day which is/was pretty great.

people that are so stoked to get home asap are like the people who were trying to graduate college in four years. like, what's your hurry bros? chill out and enjoy life/airports/etc. :cool:
Title: Re: Bumping airline passengers by thumping so company guys can fly.
Post by: mocat on April 13, 2017, 12:11:31 PM
I took 300 to come back 2 hrs later from a work trip. I mean no brainer
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Post by: Mrs. Gooch on April 13, 2017, 01:06:14 PM
I read that the guy has to have reconstructive surgery.
Title: Re: Bumping airline passengers by thumping so company guys can fly.
Post by: Institutional Control on April 13, 2017, 01:18:31 PM
I don't really have any sympathy for that dude.
Title: Re: Bumping airline passengers by thumping so company guys can fly.
Post by: catastrophe on April 13, 2017, 01:25:33 PM
I actually don't either, but it's fun to be mad at airlines for being poorly run and sucking so hard at PR.
Title: Re: Bumping airline passengers by thumping so company guys can fly.
Post by: Institutional Control on April 13, 2017, 01:25:58 PM
Kind of interesting survey on determining how much your time is worth.

https://www.guidedtrack.com/programs/cvifml6/run
Title: Re: Bumping airline passengers by thumping so company guys can fly.
Post by: catastrophe on April 13, 2017, 01:29:15 PM
I also follow this story for the memes:(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170413/14f6ba2c5d4b156abb40e940763da28a.jpg)
Title: Re: Bumping airline passengers by thumping so company guys can fly.
Post by: Brock Landers on April 13, 2017, 01:37:29 PM
Yeah I saw that one earlier today and legitimately lol'd.

Also enjoyed the "Rated #1 in Chinese Takeout" meme
Title: Re: Bumping airline passengers by thumping so company guys can fly.
Post by: kim carnes on April 13, 2017, 01:41:09 PM
true story alert*

-I once allowed AA to bump me for $300 once. this was five years ago and in Austin where one of my best friends lives. they put me on another flight that would have me getting into mhk one hour later. then they wanted to bump me on that flight and put me on one that would get there three hours later. I said yeah whatever. then they wanted to bump me from that, put me up in a hotel and fly me out the next day and give me another $300. I was like yeah sure whatever. so it was $900 total and I didn't take the hotel but just ened up hanging out with my friend for an extra day which is/was pretty great.

people that are so stoked to get home asap are like the people who were trying to graduate college in four years. like, what's your hurry bros? chill out and enjoy life/airports/etc. :cool:

The reason I want to get where I'm going asap is so that I can enjoy life
Title: Re: Bumping airline passengers by thumping so company guys can fly.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on April 13, 2017, 02:57:06 PM
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Title: Re: Bumping airline passengers by thumping so company guys can fly.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on April 13, 2017, 03:10:35 PM
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 :sdeek:

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Title: Re: Bumping airline passengers by thumping so company guys can fly.
Post by: Gooch on April 13, 2017, 03:14:38 PM
:love: me some Dudley Boyz
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Post by: The Big Train on April 13, 2017, 03:27:53 PM
Those are amazing
Title: Re: Bumping airline passengers by thumping so company guys can fly.
Post by: catastrophe on April 13, 2017, 03:53:06 PM
Not the best quality, but you get the idea.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170413/1bc42f2bd272704432068af5baa716f7.jpg)
Title: Re: Bumping airline passengers by thumping so company guys can fly.
Post by: renocat on April 13, 2017, 04:10:55 PM
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2017/04/11/asia/united-passenger-dragged-off-china-reaction/index.html
Little things like this can escalate into wars, like WW 1.  Chinese are pissed.  Our Airpolice beat the hell out of a Chinese blooded passenger who just wanted to go home.   They beat an old Chinese guy.  Unted needs to pay reparations to all people in America who are of Chinese decent.or are transChinese.  Signed Xi Renocatonese Paymeing
Title: Re: Bumping airline passengers by thumping so company guys can fly.
Post by: OK_Cat on April 13, 2017, 07:11:13 PM
He's Vietnamese, skinben


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Title: Re: Bumping airline passengers by thumping so company guys can fly.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on April 14, 2017, 09:51:22 AM
Almost for got this one....
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Title: Re: Bumping airline passengers by thumping so company guys can fly.
Post by: star seed 7 on April 14, 2017, 09:51:59 AM
He's Vietnamese, skinben


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Chinese people are still really pissed
Title: Re: Bumping airline passengers by thumping so company guys can fly.
Post by: catastrophe on April 14, 2017, 01:29:06 PM
Almost for got this one....
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Definitely goes in my top 5.
Title: Re: Bumping airline passengers by thumping so company guys can fly.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on April 18, 2017, 09:39:03 AM
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Quote
This photo was taken on a United Airlines flight this morning... #Murica
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Title: Re: Bumping airline passengers by thumping so company guys can fly.
Post by: Yard Dog on April 18, 2017, 09:46:33 AM
That seems like a really expensive joke.
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Post by: star seed 7 on April 18, 2017, 09:59:30 AM
#jokingonabudget
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Post by: mocat on April 18, 2017, 10:25:30 AM
#HURHURHURICA
Title: Re: Bumping airline passengers by thumping so company guys can fly.
Post by: Yard Dog on April 18, 2017, 10:36:25 AM
#jokingonabudget

I guess it is possible they went to a "Play It Again Sports" for those helmets. . .but they all look relatively new. Must be nice to have that kind of expendable income for ribbing a company. I would just think if you had that kind of money, you might just book your flight with a different airline instead. The helmets won't change United's culture like a lack of income would.
Title: Re: Bumping airline passengers by thumping so company guys can fly.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on April 18, 2017, 10:45:59 AM
#jokingonabudget

I guess it is possible they went to a "Play It Again Sports" for those helmets. . .but they all look relatively new. Must be nice to have that kind of expendable income for ribbing a company. I would just think if you had that kind of money, you might just book your flight with a different airline instead. The helmets won't change United's culture like a lack of income would.

I think they already owned them.
Title: Bumping airline passengers by thumping so company guys can fly.
Post by: catastrophe on April 18, 2017, 10:55:20 AM
Think I saw this on Reddit and some believed it was not even a United flight, or at least predates the recent debacle. My guess is they were from the same gym traveling to a martial arts tournament and just decided to be goofy.
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Post by: Dugout DickStone on April 18, 2017, 11:07:40 AM
Think I saw this on Reddit and some believed it was not even a United flight, or at least predates the recent debacle. My guess is they were from the same gym traveling to a martial arts tournament and just decided to be goofy look like dorks.
Title: Re: Bumping airline passengers by thumping so company guys can fly.
Post by: renocat on April 22, 2017, 05:00:59 AM
New video of male attendant whomping and verbally assaulting a young mom with a baby is circulating.  American Airflappers.  Made.me sick.  This was a man in body only.  Men don't beat women.  God Bless the man and other attendants who stood up for mom.  See fox newz.
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Post by: Dugout DickStone on April 22, 2017, 09:23:14 AM
 Take a grayhound then and leave flying to important people
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Post by: wetwillie on April 22, 2017, 09:39:50 AM
She was trying to stuff a stroller into the overhead bin?  That doesn't seem real.
Title: Re: Bumping airline passengers by thumping so company guys can fly.
Post by: Dugout DickStone on April 22, 2017, 09:44:05 AM
like 99.9% of these occurrences are dirtbags who act like dicks on flights.  Can you imagine working on a plane all day and dealing with KU karla from tonganoxie who is drunk on strawberry mojitos and believes she has a constitutional right to carry on her 75 lb Swiss Army roller?  I'd go nuts too
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Post by: Brock Landers on April 22, 2017, 10:05:30 AM
I just watched the video and that is some of the fakest crying I've ever seen. Then the idiot who caped up and needlessly interjected himself into the situation didn't help matters at all. Unfortunately we'll have to see bullshit stories like this get publicity for a while longer since airline behavior is under a microscope.
Title: Re: Bumping airline passengers by thumping so company guys can fly.
Post by: Dugout DickStone on April 22, 2017, 10:39:02 AM
And for lawsuits
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Post by: steve dave on April 23, 2017, 09:38:15 AM
that lady needed to get her crap TF off that plane when told to do so. what a loser.
Title: Re: Bumping airline passengers by thumping so company guys can fly.
Post by: sys on April 23, 2017, 02:14:32 PM
accounts state that the fa almost struck her child and did strike her while removing the stroller.  assuming that is accurate, she had every reason to be uncooperative and the male passenger had every reason to "cape up" as some dumbass poster here called it.

sorry that the trains aren't running quite on time, boys.  there are more important things in the world.  some of you are embarrassing as humans.
Title: Re: Bumping airline passengers by thumping so company guys can fly.
Post by: Dugout DickStone on April 23, 2017, 04:23:02 PM
Agreed, the rules should be applied selectively and at random
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Post by: IPA4Me on April 23, 2017, 04:37:22 PM
She's struggling to load something. That doesn't give the fa the right to be a douchebag.
Title: Re: Bumping airline passengers by thumping so company guys can fly.
Post by: sys on April 23, 2017, 05:25:48 PM
Agreed, the rules should be applied selectively and at random

1.  she was allowed to board with the stroller, neither you nor i know why, however; anyone who has every flown realizes that before entering the plane she passed at least one, and possibly as many as four points where airline or security personnel had the opportunity to review what she was planning to carry on the plane.  any of those points would have been an appropriate time to advise her that she couldn't take the stroller aboard and to provide her with other options.  it is not the passenger's responsibility to know and enforce the airline's rules.  that airline employees either didn't do so earlier is not her responsibility or her fault.

2.  there are probably some times and circumstances where it is advisable to physically wrestle a stroller away (i'm assuming this is what happened, but maybe she was compliant and the dude was just clumsy as eff and hit her turning around or some crap, who knows.  it's pretty obvious from the video, though, that the other passengers blamed the fa and not the woman) from a woman carrying a child in her arms, at the risk of striking one of them.  her having boarded a plane that has nowhere to accommodate the stroller, and you not wanting to deal with it is definitely not one of them.


btw, i've been on planes where people have had children in strollers, so i dunno if this assumption that she have known a stroller was verboten is accurate.
Title: Re: Bumping airline passengers by thumping so company guys can fly.
Post by: KST8FAN on April 23, 2017, 08:35:16 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4428864/Passenger-confronts-duty-pilot-airport-terminal.html

Tom

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Title: Re: Bumping airline passengers by thumping so company guys can fly.
Post by: steve dave on April 24, 2017, 11:55:31 AM
http://liveandletsfly.boardingarea.com/2017/04/23/passenger-blames-mother-aa-stroller-incident/#_ga=1.238060480.1925839842.1454333828

http://onemileatatime.boardingarea.com/2017/04/24/american-airlines-strollergate-incident/#_ga=1.235513537.1925839842.1454333828

comments on the second one are a fun read
Title: Re: Bumping airline passengers by thumping so company guys can fly.
Post by: Trim on April 24, 2017, 12:39:31 PM
People inside the airport should've prevented that lady from getting on the plane with all that stuff, but she also should've had enough respect for society where she would've checked that stuff from jump knowing what a clusterfuck she'd cause otherwise rather than pushing the envelope to see what she could get away with.
Title: Re: Bumping airline passengers by thumping so company guys can fly.
Post by: Institutional Control on April 24, 2017, 12:41:27 PM
People inside the airport should've prevented that lady from getting on the plane with all that stuff, but she also should've had enough respect for society where she would've checked that stuff from jump knowing what a clusterfuck she'd cause otherwise rather than pushing the envelope to see what she could get away with.

For the most part, people only give a eff about what's convenient for themselves.
Title: Re: Bumping airline passengers by thumping so company guys can fly.
Post by: Trim on April 24, 2017, 12:44:00 PM
For the most part, people only give a eff about what's convenient for themselves.

Absolutely, but usually there's a corresponding motivation to not be loathed by your fellow humans.
Title: Re: Bumping airline passengers by thumping so company guys can fly.
Post by: Dugout DickStone on April 24, 2017, 01:42:44 PM
For the most part, people only give a eff about what's convenient for themselves.

Absolutely, but usually there's a corresponding motivation to not be loathed by your fellow humans.

If you travel enough you know that motivation is fading very fast.
Title: Re: Bumping airline passengers by thumping so company guys can fly.
Post by: Trim on April 24, 2017, 02:31:36 PM
For the most part, people only give a eff about what's convenient for themselves.

Absolutely, but usually there's a corresponding motivation to not be loathed by your fellow humans.

If you travel enough you know that motivation is fading very fast.

In what should come as no surprise here on gE, the solution appears to be TI.
Title: Re: Bumping airline passengers by thumping so company guys can fly.
Post by: renocat on May 04, 2017, 06:19:21 PM
http://abc7.com/travel/socal-family-thrown-off-overbooked-delta-flight-over-childs-seating/1951238/
Bastard SOB now have gone to far.  Kicking mom and babies off flights.  Congress pass bumping protection
Title: Re: Bumping airline passengers by thumping so company guys can fly.
Post by: sys on May 04, 2017, 10:53:50 PM
what a rough ridin' joke.
Title: Re: Bumping airline passengers by thumping so company guys can fly.
Post by: puniraptor on May 05, 2017, 01:05:27 AM
I just flew delta and when I checked in they had a blind reverse auction thing where I could put the minimum credit I would accept to volunteer to be bumped, between 100 and 800 dollars.

is that new based on the current events or have they done that for awhile?
Title: Re: Bumping airline passengers by thumping so company guys can fly.
Post by: mocat on May 05, 2017, 06:24:46 AM
 They've been doing that for a while,  i encountered that a few years ago
Title: Re: Bumping airline passengers by thumping so company guys can fly.
Post by: IPA4Me on May 05, 2017, 07:24:57 AM
http://abc7.com/travel/socal-family-thrown-off-overbooked-delta-flight-over-childs-seating/1951238/ (http://abc7.com/travel/socal-family-thrown-off-overbooked-delta-flight-over-childs-seating/1951238/)
Bastard SOB now have gone to far.  Kicking mom and babies off flights.  Congress pass bumping protection
Don't put your kid an an unused seat without working with the gate agent. They rolled the dice and lost.
Title: Re: Bumping airline passengers by thumping so company guys can fly.
Post by: sys on May 05, 2017, 09:18:50 AM
an unused seat that they paid for so that their kid could sit in it.  you just roll the dice and take your chances.
Title: Re: Bumping airline passengers by thumping so company guys can fly.
Post by: mocat on May 05, 2017, 09:25:31 AM
an unused seat that they paid for so that their kid could sit in it.  you just roll the dice and take your chances.

actually they paid for that seat for their older son, who they bumped to an earlier flight. they were planning on lapping the toddler. they bought 3 seats, wanted 4.
Title: Re: Bumping airline passengers by thumping so company guys can fly.
Post by: Dugout DickStone on May 05, 2017, 09:26:14 AM
Was the seat paid for or not?
Title: Re: Bumping airline passengers by thumping so company guys can fly.
Post by: kim carnes on May 05, 2017, 09:29:25 AM
an unused seat that they paid for so that their kid could sit in it.  you just roll the dice and take your chances.

actually they paid for that seat for their older son, who they bumped to an earlier flight. they were planning on lapping the toddler. they bought 3 seats, wanted 4.

I think they paid for both flights
Title: Re: Bumping airline passengers by thumping so company guys can fly.
Post by: sys on May 05, 2017, 09:34:30 AM
they bought 3 seats, wanted 4.

nope.  paid for the seat for the older kid.  subbed in the infant.  paid for all the seats they wanted.
Title: Re: Bumping airline passengers by thumping so company guys can fly.
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on May 05, 2017, 09:36:33 AM
they had a ticket but it was in the name of their older kid who ended up getting another ticket for an earlier flight. most airlines don't allow you to just transfer tickets to a different person. so they bought tickets with the understanding that they would lap the child but then thought that he could just take the seat of their oldest who ended up not flying. i'll side with the airline on this.
Title: Re: Bumping airline passengers by thumping so company guys can fly.
Post by: mocat on May 05, 2017, 09:41:48 AM
they had a ticket but it was in the name of their older kid who ended up getting another ticket for an earlier flight. most airlines don't allow you to just transfer tickets to a different person. so they bought tickets with the understanding that they would lap the child but then thought that he could just take the seat of their oldest who ended up not flying. i'll side with the airline on this.

this is what i was trying to say
Title: Re: Bumping airline passengers by thumping so company guys can fly.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 05, 2017, 09:48:52 AM
So were they offering to pay them for bumping the not-present older son?
Title: Re: Bumping airline passengers by thumping so company guys can fly.
Post by: star seed 7 on May 05, 2017, 09:57:59 AM
Paid for a seat but not allowed to use it, seems pretty easy to see who is a dick here
Title: Re: Bumping airline passengers by thumping so company guys can fly.
Post by: Dugout DickStone on May 05, 2017, 10:04:24 AM
Did the older "use" his ticket on the earlier flight?
Title: Re: Bumping airline passengers by thumping so company guys can fly.
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on May 05, 2017, 10:06:51 AM
Paid for a seat but not allowed to use it, seems pretty easy to see who is a dick here

try showing up to a flight that I bought a ticket for under my name and see what happens.
Title: Re: Bumping airline passengers by thumping so company guys can fly.
Post by: mocat on May 05, 2017, 10:07:17 AM
Did the older "use" his ticket on the earlier flight?

i'm assuming they paid (if anything) a transfer fee of $50 for him to take the earlier flight
Title: Re: Bumping airline passengers by thumping so company guys can fly.
Post by: yoga-like_abana on May 05, 2017, 10:09:19 AM
cell phones are the worst.. everything and anything goes viral. wgaf
Title: Re: Bumping airline passengers by thumping so company guys can fly.
Post by: steve dave on May 05, 2017, 10:09:53 AM
throw the car seat with the kid in it into the ocean. don't get me wrong, I don't wish the kid harm, but his parents should suffer that horrific ordeal so they'll learn how to properly manage the airline reservation system.
Title: Re: Bumping airline passengers by thumping so company guys can fly.
Post by: star seed 7 on May 05, 2017, 10:12:51 AM
Paid for a seat but not allowed to use it, seems pretty easy to see who is a dick here

try showing up to a flight that I bought a ticket for under my name and see what happens.

Yeah, I understand that part and there is some federal regulation or something probably, but it's still stupid. If you buy a ticket for you and your wife, but decide to take your girlfriend instead, you should be able to.
Title: Re: Bumping airline passengers by thumping so company guys can fly.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 05, 2017, 10:16:42 AM
Did the older "use" his ticket on the earlier flight?

i'm assuming they paid (if anything) a transfer fee of $50 for him to take the earlier flight

My understanding is that they paid for the older son for this flight and then kept that booking but also paid for a flight earlier for him.
Title: Re: Bumping airline passengers by thumping so company guys can fly.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 05, 2017, 10:17:16 AM
throw the car seat with the kid in it into the ocean. don't get me wrong, I don't wish the kid harm, but his parents should suffer that horrific ordeal so they'll learn how to properly manage the airline reservation system.

 :love:
Title: Re: Bumping airline passengers by thumping so company guys can fly.
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on May 05, 2017, 10:18:09 AM
Paid for a seat but not allowed to use it, seems pretty easy to see who is a dick here

try showing up to a flight that I bought a ticket for under my name and see what happens.

Yeah, I understand that part and there is some federal regulation or something probably, but it's still stupid. If you buy a ticket for you and your wife, but decide to take your girlfriend instead, you should be able to.

that's not the way it works though and this incident is only unique because the parents were dicks and there was a baby involved and people don't care enough to really understand what happened so they just watch a thirty second video and then assume the airline was in the wrong (which they weren't).

I'm totally onboard with it being a stupid rule though. would love to have it changed.
Title: Re: Bumping airline passengers by thumping so company guys can fly.
Post by: sys on May 05, 2017, 10:22:07 AM
Did the older "use" his ticket on the earlier flight?

i'm assuming they paid (if anything) a transfer fee of $50 for him to take the earlier flight

no, they bought a normal ticket on the earlier flight to send the older kid home for the whole and express intention of sitting the infant in the older kid's seat on the original flight (because that flight was sold out and they couldn't buy another ticket for the infant on that one).
Title: Re: Bumping airline passengers by thumping so company guys can fly.
Post by: sys on May 05, 2017, 10:24:19 AM
if you're extra fat they tell you to buy two seats.  is the fat guy's left ass cheek thrown off the plane while they sit an overbooked passenger in his second seat?
Title: Re: Bumping airline passengers by thumping so company guys can fly.
Post by: sys on May 05, 2017, 10:26:39 AM
some of you are embarrassing as humans.
Title: Re: Bumping airline passengers by thumping so company guys can fly.
Post by: sys on May 05, 2017, 10:27:21 AM
there is some federal regulation or something probably.

there is not.
Title: Re: Bumping airline passengers by thumping so company guys can fly.
Post by: star seed 7 on May 05, 2017, 10:28:04 AM
there is some federal regulation or something probably.

there is not.

Well that makes everything way worse
Title: Re: Bumping airline passengers by thumping so company guys can fly.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 05, 2017, 10:29:59 AM
if you're extra fat they tell you to buy two seats.  is the fat guy's left ass cheek thrown off the plane while they sit an overbooked passenger in his second seat?

How does that work when booking? Can you book two seats for the same person?
Title: Re: Bumping airline passengers by thumping so company guys can fly.
Post by: star seed 7 on May 05, 2017, 10:31:28 AM
Hurley booked like nearly a whole plane
Title: Re: Bumping airline passengers by thumping so company guys can fly.
Post by: sys on May 05, 2017, 10:33:27 AM
that's not the way it works though and this incident is only unique because the parents were dicks and there was a baby involved and people don't care enough to really understand what happened so they just watch a thirty second video and then assume the airline was in the wrong (which they weren't).

I'm totally onboard with it being a stupid rule though. would love to have it changed.

it's "unique" because it's an infant, not an unrelated adult.  there is a valid safety rationale (not saying it's justified, but there is a logical rationale) for not allowing unrelated adults to exchange tickets.  that didn't happen here.  the infant boarded under a valid ticket as a lap baby and the parents then wanted to sit it in the vacant seat that they paid for.  the airline preferred to sit another customer in that seat instead.

they let you buy two seats if you want elbow room or for whatever weird ass reason you might have.  this is the same.
Title: Re: Bumping airline passengers by thumping so company guys can fly.
Post by: sys on May 05, 2017, 10:36:11 AM
then assume the airline was in the wrong (which they weren't).

leaving every other consideration aside, the airline is in the wrong for having that bitch come up to the parents and flat lie her ass off to try and get them to accede to their demands that they surrender the seat.
Title: Re: Bumping airline passengers by thumping so company guys can fly.
Post by: Dugout DickStone on May 05, 2017, 10:44:30 AM
Did the older "use" his ticket on the earlier flight?

i'm assuming they paid (if anything) a transfer fee of $50 for him to take the earlier flight

no, they bought a normal ticket on the earlier flight to send the older kid home for the whole and express intention of sitting the infant in the older kid's seat on the original flight (because that flight was sold out and they couldn't buy another ticket for the infant on that one).

Then they own that seat.  Lap the baby and keep the seat empty
Title: Re: Bumping airline passengers by thumping so company guys can fly.
Post by: mocat on May 05, 2017, 10:48:33 AM
Did the older "use" his ticket on the earlier flight?

i'm assuming they paid (if anything) a transfer fee of $50 for him to take the earlier flight

no, they bought a normal ticket on the earlier flight to send the older kid home for the whole and express intention of sitting the infant in the older kid's seat on the original flight (because that flight was sold out and they couldn't buy another ticket for the infant on that one).

that was extremely stupid of them
Title: Re: Bumping airline passengers by thumping so company guys can fly.
Post by: chum1 on May 05, 2017, 10:49:19 AM
How did anyone know? Kids aren't required to have IDs. Was the older kid an adult? Or did the parents just eff up by not keeping their mouths shut and trying to explain why the baby's name doesn't match the name on the ticket?
Title: Re: Bumping airline passengers by thumping so company guys can fly.
Post by: star seed 7 on May 05, 2017, 10:50:26 AM
Imagine if sports venues operated like this
Title: Re: Bumping airline passengers by thumping so company guys can fly.
Post by: kim carnes on May 05, 2017, 10:51:31 AM
Anyone siding w the airline here is a giant dumbass
Title: Re: Bumping airline passengers by thumping so company guys can fly.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 05, 2017, 10:55:29 AM
How did anyone know? Kids aren't required to have IDs. Was the older kid an adult? Or did the parents just eff up by not keeping their mouths shut and trying to explain why the baby's name doesn't match the name on the ticket?

The older "kid" is an 18 year old adult.
Title: Re: Bumping airline passengers by thumping so company guys can fly.
Post by: kim carnes on May 05, 2017, 10:57:08 AM
They paid for the god damn seat, the baby is allowed on the flight without paying for a ticket.  They're just putting their gd baby in the seat that is open, it would be no different then if you randomly had a seat open next to you and your friend who was also on the flight with a ticket moved up and sat next to you.  You guys are dumbasses. 
Title: Re: Bumping airline passengers by thumping so company guys can fly.
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on May 05, 2017, 10:58:12 AM
Did the older "use" his ticket on the earlier flight?

i'm assuming they paid (if anything) a transfer fee of $50 for him to take the earlier flight

no, they bought a normal ticket on the earlier flight to send the older kid home for the whole and express intention of sitting the infant in the older kid's seat on the original flight (because that flight was sold out and they couldn't buy another ticket for the infant on that one).

the older kid had to go home early so they bought him/her a ticket for an earlier flight and then (incorrectly) thought that they could just put the baby in the older kids seat. guess what? you can't. if that was a big deal to them, then they should have originally bought five seats and not four. the fact that they didn't buy enough for all five tells you all that you need to know, but even if it doesn't then guess what, the airline has rules and regs and you can't just sub one person for another's seat and you agree to that when you buy a ticket. it's dumb but it's pretty standard across airlines.
Title: Re: Bumping airline passengers by thumping so company guys can fly.
Post by: star seed 7 on May 05, 2017, 10:59:15 AM
I have this extra ticket to the cats game, but dangit it's in my other sons name so sorry kid you can't go
Title: Re: Bumping airline passengers by thumping so company guys can fly.
Post by: kim carnes on May 05, 2017, 10:59:31 AM
Daris stop
Title: Re: Bumping airline passengers by thumping so company guys can fly.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 05, 2017, 10:59:46 AM
They paid for the god damn seat, the baby is allowed on the flight without paying for a ticket.  They're just putting their gd baby in the seat that is open, it would be no different then if you randomly had a seat open next to you and your friend who was also on the flight with a ticket moved up and sat next to you.  You guys are dumbasses.

Well the difference is that if there was an empty seat then the passenger they were trying to accommodate would be assigned that seat and it would no longer be an empty seat. It's more like what sys was saying about if you paid for an extra seat for elbow room.
Title: Re: Bumping airline passengers by thumping so company guys can fly.
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on May 05, 2017, 11:02:45 AM
They paid for the god damn seat, the baby is allowed on the flight without paying for a ticket.  They're just putting their gd baby in the seat that is open, it would be no different then if you randomly had a seat open next to you and your friend who was also on the flight with a ticket moved up and sat next to you.  You guys are dumbasses.

the seat isn't open. the person who was assigned to it no-showed the flight so the airline resold it. that happens a thousand times a day. seriously 1,000 times every single day.

Title: Re: Bumping airline passengers by thumping so company guys can fly.
Post by: kim carnes on May 05, 2017, 11:03:30 AM
They paid for the god damn seat, the baby is allowed on the flight without paying for a ticket.  They're just putting their gd baby in the seat that is open, it would be no different then if you randomly had a seat open next to you and your friend who was also on the flight with a ticket moved up and sat next to you.  You guys are dumbasses.

Well the difference is that if there was an empty seat then the passenger they were trying to accommodate would be assigned that seat and it would no longer be an empty seat. It's more like what sys was saying about if you paid for an extra seat for elbow room.

They shouldn't be trying to accommodate a passenger in a seat that was already paid for by someone else (I'm well aware that they are allowed to but idgaf bc that is stupid)
Title: Re: Bumping airline passengers by thumping so company guys can fly.
Post by: kim carnes on May 05, 2017, 11:05:07 AM
They paid for the god damn seat, the baby is allowed on the flight without paying for a ticket.  They're just putting their gd baby in the seat that is open, it would be no different then if you randomly had a seat open next to you and your friend who was also on the flight with a ticket moved up and sat next to you.  You guys are dumbasses.

the seat isn't open. the person who was assigned to it no-showed the flight so the airline resold it. that happens a thousand times a day. seriously 1,000 times every single day.

I know how the system works daris, good grief.   That is why I think this is an outrage. 
Title: Re: Bumping airline passengers by thumping so company guys can fly.
Post by: AbeFroman on May 05, 2017, 11:07:27 AM
I have this extra ticket to the cats game, but dangit it's in my other sons name so sorry kid you can't go

And the RCPD is going to put you in jail and social services are going to take your kid away.

Seems reasonable, oh wait, that's crazy.
Title: Re: Bumping airline passengers by thumping so company guys can fly.
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on May 05, 2017, 11:15:18 AM
They paid for the god damn seat, the baby is allowed on the flight without paying for a ticket.  They're just putting their gd baby in the seat that is open, it would be no different then if you randomly had a seat open next to you and your friend who was also on the flight with a ticket moved up and sat next to you.  You guys are dumbasses.

Well the difference is that if there was an empty seat then the passenger they were trying to accommodate would be assigned that seat and it would no longer be an empty seat. It's more like what sys was saying about if you paid for an extra seat for elbow room.

They shouldn't be trying to accommodate a passenger in a seat that was already paid for by someone else (I'm well aware that they are allowed to but idgaf bc that is stupid)

you realize that you are advocating for an airline to not be able to resell the seat of a passenger who no shows a sold out flight, right?
Title: Re: Bumping airline passengers by thumping so company guys can fly.
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on May 05, 2017, 11:18:57 AM
I have this extra ticket to the cats game, but dangit it's in my other sons name so sorry kid you can't go

And the RCPD is going to put you in jail and social services are going to take your kid away.

Seems reasonable, oh wait, that's crazy.


1)the person that told them that is ridiculous and wrong and should be suspended or fired or something.
2)I also wish airline coc agreements were like event tickets. they aren't.
Title: Re: Bumping airline passengers by thumping so company guys can fly.
Post by: kim carnes on May 05, 2017, 11:19:43 AM
They paid for the god damn seat, the baby is allowed on the flight without paying for a ticket.  They're just putting their gd baby in the seat that is open, it would be no different then if you randomly had a seat open next to you and your friend who was also on the flight with a ticket moved up and sat next to you.  You guys are dumbasses.

Well the difference is that if there was an empty seat then the passenger they were trying to accommodate would be assigned that seat and it would no longer be an empty seat. It's more like what sys was saying about if you paid for an extra seat for elbow room.

They shouldn't be trying to accommodate a passenger in a seat that was already paid for by someone else (I'm well aware that they are allowed to but idgaf bc that is stupid)

you realize that you are advocating for an airline to not be able to resell the seat of a passenger who no shows a sold out flight, right?

Yes, i am ok w that if airlines can't act responsibly when doing so and treat people w decency.  Most no shows are single travelers so this problem isn't common. 
Title: Re: Bumping airline passengers by thumping so company guys can fly.
Post by: mocat on May 05, 2017, 11:20:15 AM
I have this extra ticket to the cats game, but dangit it's in my other sons name so sorry kid you can't go

And the RCPD is going to put you in jail and social services are going to take your kid away.

Seems reasonable, oh wait, that's crazy.

let me know how it goes if you leave the royals game and try to get back in
Title: Re: Bumping airline passengers by thumping so company guys can fly.
Post by: star seed 7 on May 05, 2017, 11:21:59 AM
Do the royals resell your ticket?
Title: Re: Bumping airline passengers by thumping so company guys can fly.
Post by: Gooch on May 05, 2017, 11:23:21 AM
No but i'm moving down to it from the Hyvee section after the 3rd inning.
Title: Re: Bumping airline passengers by thumping so company guys can fly.
Post by: Trim on May 05, 2017, 11:25:52 AM
None of these things can happen to you if you buy tickets and pick out your seat(s) when doing so and the correct people show up and sit in those seats, right?
Title: Re: Bumping airline passengers by thumping so company guys can fly.
Post by: renocat on May 05, 2017, 11:27:00 AM
People are tired of fine print and lawerly bs clauses in everything they purchase.  If they had a weasel chopping clause in an airline so.they would have room, would that be right?  IMO if you pay foe a.reservation that seat is yours unless your plane can't fly.  United bumps people with the lowest price tickets first - this wrong.   Late comers should be the first bumped.  The article I read about kicking this family off.the plane said as.they were.leaving 4 PEOLE came on the plane.to take.their seats.  Threatening to throw the parents in jail worked I guess.   Ahole Airlines should be punished or boycotted.
Title: Re: Bumping airline passengers by thumping so company guys can fly.
Post by: Dugout DickStone on May 05, 2017, 11:46:08 AM
yeah go ahead and stop flying
Title: Re: Bumping airline passengers by thumping so company guys can fly.
Post by: AbeFroman on May 05, 2017, 11:49:51 AM
I have this extra ticket to the cats game, but dangit it's in my other sons name so sorry kid you can't go

And the RCPD is going to put you in jail and social services are going to take your kid away.

Seems reasonable, oh wait, that's crazy.

let me know how it goes if you leave the royals game and try to get back in

Did the family leave the terminal and then try and re-enter? Cause if they did then I can see why there was an issue.
Title: Re: Bumping airline passengers by thumping so company guys can fly.
Post by: sys on May 05, 2017, 11:53:36 AM
guess what, the airline has rules and regs and you can't just sub one person for another's seat and you agree to that when you buy a ticket. it's dumb but it's pretty standard across airlines.

guess what, that family has rules and regs that you can't just give away a seat they paid for to someone else.  the airline agreed to those when they took their money.  tough luck for the airline, but they should have checked.  fairly standard actually, so really pretty dumb of them.
Title: Re: Bumping airline passengers by thumping so company guys can fly.
Post by: mocat on May 05, 2017, 11:58:14 AM
I have this extra ticket to the cats game, but dangit it's in my other sons name so sorry kid you can't go

And the RCPD is going to put you in jail and social services are going to take your kid away.

Seems reasonable, oh wait, that's crazy.

let me know how it goes if you leave the royals game and try to get back in

Did the family leave the terminal and then try and re-enter? Cause if they did then I can see why there was an issue.

kid left the flight and wanted to let his lil bro in instead
Title: Re: Bumping airline passengers by thumping so company guys can fly.
Post by: star seed 7 on May 05, 2017, 12:04:47 PM
No, the kid bought a ticket to a different game and gave the old one to his bro.
Title: Re: Bumping airline passengers by thumping so company guys can fly.
Post by: Cartierfor3 on May 05, 2017, 12:19:07 PM
Guys, I just don't have the energy to get worked up about every person who has a bad experience flying.
Title: Re: Bumping airline passengers by thumping so company guys can fly.
Post by: AbeFroman on May 05, 2017, 12:20:02 PM
An apt Royals comparison would be: family buys 3 tickets for Saturday night with the intention of having the young kid sit on Dad's lap. Older kid's friends are going Friday night so Dad says "sure, go with your friends" and buys a ticket to Friday's game for the older kid. Dad decides to keep the 3 tickets for Saturday so the young kid can have his own seat.
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Post by: chum1 on May 05, 2017, 12:39:26 PM
How did anyone know? Kids aren't required to have IDs. Was the older kid an adult? Or did the parents just eff up by not keeping their mouths shut and trying to explain why the baby's name doesn't match the name on the ticket?

The older "kid" is an 18 year old adult.

Lesson for those in a similar situation in the future: When you arrive at the gate and they wonder why your ticket for an infant says that it's for an 18 year-old, tell them that you purchased the ticket online and thought you were specifying 18 months.
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Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 05, 2017, 12:47:52 PM
How did anyone know? Kids aren't required to have IDs. Was the older kid an adult? Or did the parents just eff up by not keeping their mouths shut and trying to explain why the baby's name doesn't match the name on the ticket?

The older "kid" is an 18 year old adult.

Lesson for those in a similar situation in the future: When you arrive at the gate and they wonder why your ticket for an infant says that it's for an 18 year-old, tell them that you purchased the ticket online and thought you were specifying 18 months.

According to the dad, Delta knew they were planning to use the seat for the younger kid when they boarded the flight.
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Post by: Dugout DickStone on May 05, 2017, 12:52:35 PM
How did anyone know? Kids aren't required to have IDs. Was the older kid an adult? Or did the parents just eff up by not keeping their mouths shut and trying to explain why the baby's name doesn't match the name on the ticket?

The older "kid" is an 18 year old adult.

Lesson for those in a similar situation in the future: When you arrive at the gate and they wonder why your ticket for an infant says that it's for an 18 year-old, tell them that you purchased the ticket online and thought you were specifying 18 months.

then crank up your iPhone and tape it all...
Title: Re: Bumping airline passengers by thumping so company guys can fly.
Post by: chum1 on May 05, 2017, 12:56:54 PM
How did anyone know? Kids aren't required to have IDs. Was the older kid an adult? Or did the parents just eff up by not keeping their mouths shut and trying to explain why the baby's name doesn't match the name on the ticket?

The older "kid" is an 18 year old adult.

Lesson for those in a similar situation in the future: When you arrive at the gate and they wonder why your ticket for an infant says that it's for an 18 year-old, tell them that you purchased the ticket online and thought you were specifying 18 months.

According to the dad, Delta knew they were planning to use the seat for the younger kid when they boarded the flight.

The lesson is that Delta knew too much if they knew that the ticket was not purchased for the infant. This is a purely practical lesson. No judgement about right or wrong.
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Post by: catastrophe on May 05, 2017, 01:26:53 PM
How did anyone know? Kids aren't required to have IDs. Was the older kid an adult? Or did the parents just eff up by not keeping their mouths shut and trying to explain why the baby's name doesn't match the name on the ticket?

The older "kid" is an 18 year old adult.

Lesson for those in a similar situation in the future: When you arrive at the gate and they wonder why your ticket for an infant says that it's for an 18 year-old, tell them that you purchased the ticket online and thought you were specifying 18 months.

According to the dad, Delta knew they were planning to use the seat for the younger kid when they boarded the flight.

This would be the key detail in my mind.  I cannot fault an airline that re-sells a paid-for seat if the seat-holder does not show up (which I think is what must have happened as far as Delta is concerned).  I'm sure anyone who has flown frequently enough has benefited from this policy.  However, if they were told in advance that the paid for seat was being used by the person paying for it, then it's either a case of incompetence or pure greed on Delta's part.
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Post by: steve dave on May 05, 2017, 02:56:55 PM
Airline travel makes a lot of people rage. Not me, but like dumbasses.
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Post by: renocat on May 08, 2017, 05:01:19 PM
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/attorneys-giant-rabbit-may-have-died-while-locked-in-freezer-after-united-flight/ar-BBAT87t
Now they are killing pet rabbits.  What if it would have been Rover or a kittytrump?
Title: Re: Bumping airline passengers by thumping so company guys can fly.
Post by: Dugout DickStone on May 08, 2017, 09:06:41 PM
I would love a picture of the Iowa jumbo rabbit buying group
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Post by: Emo EMAW on May 12, 2017, 02:15:19 PM
I'm on a Southwest flight at Americas best airport and they have 140 on board but manifest only shows 139 so they are going up the aisles checking all ID's.
Title: Re: Bumping airline passengers by thumping so company guys can fly.
Post by: mocat on May 12, 2017, 02:17:09 PM
would be so much easier with assigned seats
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Post by: Emo EMAW on May 12, 2017, 02:21:37 PM
What do you know, not sure  who's fault (I guess by default the airlines fault), they admitted a child incorrectly (lap vs ticketed). 
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Post by: Emo EMAW on May 12, 2017, 02:22:50 PM
They ought to just ban lap children. 
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Post by: Gooch on May 12, 2017, 02:47:42 PM
They ought to just ban lap children. 
This
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Post by: mocat on May 12, 2017, 02:52:18 PM
banning lap children would disproportionately affect children of lap band patients
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Post by: Dugout DickStone on May 12, 2017, 03:03:39 PM
They ought to just ban lap children. 
This

yes
Title: Re: Bumping airline passengers by thumping so company guys can fly.
Post by: renocat on May 12, 2017, 03:44:22 PM
I see a kid beating coming
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Post by: steve dave on May 18, 2017, 03:28:08 PM
GTFOOMF with your 350 lb allowance for bags and being pissed that united won't do your lazy ass job for you. If I was United I'd load his 400 lbs of crap up for him and then release the bomb doors at 35k feet raining it down on flyover country. If I was United I wouldn't give any extra allowance to military to begin with.

United gives 3 checked bags to international three cabin first class passengers, they give 5 free checked bags to soldiers

United gives 50 pounds per bag as an allowance to economy passengers, premium cabin passengers, elites, and soldiers are allowed to check 70 pounds per bag without an overweight fee

http://www.foxnews.com/travel/2017/05/17/national-guard-soldier-claims-united-airlines-charged-200-for-overweight-bag.html
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Post by: renocat on May 18, 2017, 11:12:41 PM
Apparently United agent hates killerjoes.  Must have been an Obama disciple or muslim.  Soldiers should be given leeway.  The agent sbould have to kiss his butt.  SteveDave do airliners have bomb doors?  I hope I never get bonked by falling debris.  This videoing of jetflying beeves has to quit.. Last week a family got kicked off the plane for trying to store a bcake in the overhead bin.  They were trying to put in the bin container for safety gear.  Attendant made them put it under the seat, when he turned his back they put the cake overhead.  Peeesed off him big time and family cussed him too.  They tried to make a big deal of this.  I guess the cake might have been heavy also.
Title: Re: Bumping airline passengers by thumping so company guys can fly.
Post by: steve dave on May 19, 2017, 06:08:11 AM
Yeah, I'd throw that family the eff off the plane as well.
Title: Re: Bumping airline passengers by thumping so company guys can fly.
Post by: Dugout DickStone on May 19, 2017, 10:17:57 AM
Yeah, I'd throw that family the eff off the plane as well.

Yeah, rules don't apply to us.  Wait, they do
Title: Re: Bumping airline passengers by thumping so company guys can fly.
Post by: steve dave on May 19, 2017, 10:45:18 AM
local downgrade doesn't feel rules apply to him, gets his dumbass kicked off flight. better alert the media!
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Post by: Brock Landers on May 19, 2017, 10:52:12 AM
A birthday cake is a pretty stupid item to travel with.  The chances of the cake getting smashed somewhere along the way are pretty high.
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Post by: mocat on May 19, 2017, 11:08:39 AM
A birthday cake is a pretty stupid item to travel with.  The chances of the cake getting smashed somewhere along the way are pretty high.

yeah, wtf is that about. like you can't get a cake wherever you're going?
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Post by: star seed 7 on May 19, 2017, 11:22:36 AM
Check your privilege mocat
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Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 19, 2017, 01:00:37 PM
I am planning a trip on United with a friend. She said, "Good thing {her husband} isn't going with us." He is an Asian male doctor.
Title: Re: Bumping airline passengers by thumping so company guys can fly.
Post by: Dugout DickStone on May 19, 2017, 02:03:03 PM
I am planning a trip on United with a friend. She said, "Good thing {her husband} isn't going with us." He is an Asian male doctor.

she sounds like a loser.  don't go
Title: Re: Bumping airline passengers by thumping so company guys can fly.
Post by: BrokenSky1113 on May 20, 2017, 01:20:51 AM
They paid for the god damn seat, the baby is allowed on the flight without paying for a ticket.  They're just putting their gd baby in the seat that is open, it would be no different then if you randomly had a seat open next to you and your friend who was also on the flight with a ticket moved up and sat next to you.  You guys are dumbasses.

Well the difference is that if there was an empty seat then the passenger they were trying to accommodate would be assigned that seat and it would no longer be an empty seat. It's more like what sys was saying about if you paid for an extra seat for elbow room.

They shouldn't be trying to accommodate a passenger in a seat that was already paid for by someone else (I'm well aware that they are allowed to but idgaf bc that is stupid)

you realize that you are advocating for an airline to not be able to resell the seat of a passenger who no shows a sold out flight, right?

I'm ok with a regulation that forces a company to only sell a product one time.
It is not outrageous to suggest that airlines find a business model that allows them to make a profit without relying on screwing consumers.
Honestly, what kind of business claims that it can only make money by selling more than they can accommodate? The only reason we accept it is because they have been doing it for so long and it is protected by the government.
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Post by: puniraptor on May 20, 2017, 05:45:58 AM
The real only reason we accept it is that it results in lower fares for everyone.
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Post by: steve dave on May 20, 2017, 08:59:07 AM
Yeah, people act like air travel is some service they deserve on their own terms. I'm very free market capitalist when it comes to air travel.
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Post by: IPA4Me on May 30, 2017, 08:35:05 AM
Late arrival on connecting flight. Had to check my bag rather than use the overhead storage.

Is this grounds to rage?
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Post by: michigancat on May 30, 2017, 08:48:26 AM
Late arrival on connecting flight. Had to check my bag rather than use the overhead storage.

Is this grounds to rage?
lol no. Be thankful you made the flight.
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Post by: michigancat on May 30, 2017, 08:50:39 AM
Also be thankful that your second plane even took roller boards. I almost always put everything in a backpack because of the tiny overhead bins on the planes I take to tiny towns.
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Post by: IPA4Me on May 31, 2017, 05:49:49 PM
I start in a small airport. So I'm usually good. Gateway check and go on the full flights. CLT connection would have had room for my roller if we'd been on time.  I keep the AA card just for the priority boarding.
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Post by: Mrs. Gooch on June 21, 2017, 09:51:59 AM
Apparently more than one person can board a United plane with the same boarding pass. Seems like the whole point of them checking your boarding pass would be to prevent this.
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Post by: mocat on June 21, 2017, 10:08:10 AM
Apparently more than one person can board a United plane with the same boarding pass. Seems like the whole point of them checking your boarding pass would be to prevent this.

That doesn't sound right
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Post by: Mrs. Gooch on June 21, 2017, 12:58:51 PM
Apparently more than one person can board a United plane with the same boarding pass. Seems like the whole point of them checking your boarding pass would be to prevent this.

That doesn't sound right

I agree but this guy and his dad both boarded the plane with the dad's boarding pass. The guy accidentally had it up on his phone instead of his own, and then the dad had a printed version. So then they thought the son wasn't on the plane so they had to come back and ask if he was there.

Unfortunately, they didn't drag him off the plane for using the wrong boarding pass.
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Post by: mocat on June 21, 2017, 01:01:19 PM
United is such a broke ass pile of trash airline, I'm surprised they even have mobile passes
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Post by: michigancat on June 21, 2017, 01:24:21 PM
United is such a broke ass pile of trash airline, I'm surprised they even have mobile passes

lots of 787's on domestic routes tho
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Post by: puniraptor on June 28, 2017, 06:10:13 AM
United is such a broke ass pile of trash airline, I'm surprised they even have mobile passes

lots of 787's on domestic routes tho
And no poop strombolis
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Post by: renocat on June 28, 2017, 09:11:30 PM
Chinese grandma threw quarters into a jet engine and Chicken Express let her fly.   We refuse to give up our seat for jetboy and they beat us.
Title: Re: Bumping airline common passengers so big shots can fly.
Post by: renocat on December 26, 2017, 04:33:22 PM
http://fortune.com/2017/12/26/united-first-class-passenger-bumped/
United bumped a passenger with hihj airline mileage out of her 1st class to give it to her Highendness Congresswoman Lee.  Dang Congressional members can wait for a flight like us deplorables.  United should be penalized; treated this commoner like dog dung.
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Post by: Institutional Control on December 27, 2017, 04:05:42 PM
She bought her ticket with miles and then got $500 to be on the same plane in economy. I don’t feel bad for her.


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Post by: catastrophe on December 27, 2017, 04:51:52 PM
Anyone who insists on flying first class so much they’d bump someone already sitting there is still a monster.
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Post by: michigancat on December 27, 2017, 05:05:19 PM
She bought her ticket with miles and then got $500 to be on the same plane in economy. I don’t feel bad for her.


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she seems pretty awful

https://twitter.com/JeanMarieSimon1
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Post by: dal9 on December 27, 2017, 08:54:18 PM
Chinese grandma threw quarters into a jet engine and Chicken Express let her fly.   We refuse to give up our seat for jetboy and they beat us.
can someone translate this into english? 
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Post by: puniraptor on December 27, 2017, 09:17:37 PM
renocat hates the free market and wants to eat the rich
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Post by: ChiComCat on December 28, 2017, 10:35:33 AM
She bought her ticket with miles and then got $500 to be on the same plane in economy. I don’t feel bad for her.


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she seems pretty awful

https://twitter.com/JeanMarieSimon1

It blows my mind that a human rights activist can be so outraged at sitting in coach.
Title: Re: Bumping airline common passengers so big shots can fly.
Post by: michigancat on December 28, 2017, 10:50:31 AM
She bought her ticket with miles and then got $500 to be on the same plane in economy. I don’t feel bad for her.


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she seems pretty awful

https://twitter.com/JeanMarieSimon1

It blows my mind that a human rights activist can be so outraged at sitting in coach.

and it looks like she got all her miles back in addition to the $500 and she is still freaking out over a formal written apology.
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Post by: wetwillie on December 28, 2017, 10:54:57 AM
Oscar Munoz should tweet at her that she's lucky she gets to vote and own property and call the matter settled.
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Post by: renocat on December 28, 2017, 10:57:55 AM
From The Daily Caller about this queen.
"The latest airplane drama came this week when a United Airlines passenger said she was booted from her first class seat to accommodate the Texas Democrat, who shot back by saying the only reason the woman complained was because Jackson Lee is black.

But previous reports show the House member, who was elected in 1994, has had a history of transportation drama, including berating flight attendants on first class flights and making her Congressional staff drive her one block, while waiting on her for hours and disrupting traffic.

She's been documented calling her employees 'you stupid motherf***er,' while referring to herself as Congressional royalty.   

'You don't understand. I am a queen, and I demand to be treated like a queen,' she was quoted saying in 1998, three years into her nearly 23-year tenure on Capitol Hill. "

I would go into a hissy fit if I learned I got bumped by an airline to accommodate some sanctimonious  Congressional queen.  I am just as important as this ripper.
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Post by: ChiComCat on December 28, 2017, 11:27:27 AM
From The Daily Caller about this queen.
"The latest airplane drama came this week when a United Airlines passenger said she was booted from her first class seat to accommodate the Texas Democrat, who shot back by saying the only reason the woman complained was because Jackson Lee is black.

But previous reports show the House member, who was elected in 1994, has had a history of transportation drama, including berating flight attendants on first class flights and making her Congressional staff drive her one block, while waiting on her for hours and disrupting traffic.

She's been documented calling her employees 'you stupid motherf***er,' while referring to herself as Congressional royalty.   

'You don't understand. I am a queen, and I demand to be treated like a queen,' she was quoted saying in 1998, three years into her nearly 23-year tenure on Capitol Hill. "

I would go into a hissy fit if I learned I got bumped by an airline to accommodate some sanctimonious  Congressional queen.  I am just as important as this ripper.

To be clear, the other passenger wasn't bumped from the flight.  She was moved to coach and compensated.
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Post by: renocat on December 28, 2017, 12:22:35 PM
From The Daily Caller about this queen.
"The latest airplane drama came this week when a United Airlines passenger said she was booted from her first class seat to accommodate the Texas Democrat, who shot back by saying the only reason the woman complained was because Jackson Lee is black.

But previous reports show the House member, who was elected in 1994, has had a history of transportation drama, including berating flight attendants on first class flights and making her Congressional staff drive her one block, while waiting on her for hours and disrupting traffic.

She's been documented calling her employees 'you stupid motherf***er,' while referring to herself as Congressional royalty.   

'You don't understand. I am a queen, and I demand to be treated like a queen,' she was quoted saying in 1998, three years into her nearly 23-year tenure on Capitol Hill. "

I would go into a hissy fit if I learned I got bumped by an airline to accommodate some sanctimonious  Congressional queen.  I am just as important as this ripper.

To be clear, the other passenger wasn't bumped from the flight.  She was moved to coach and compensated.
Bump Congresswoman Ripper to low class, and compensate her.  She ain't special.  Poor lady who was.bumped had to give up airline miles.  It is a big deal for commenors to get to fly 1st class; this sanctimonious rip killed.this ladies dream.
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Post by: wetwillie on December 28, 2017, 12:27:23 PM
I'm pretty certain graduating from Harvard law eliminates you from the commoner class
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Post by: ChiComCat on December 28, 2017, 12:37:02 PM
Pretty sure she didn't end up losing airline miles either.

I get that United probably screwed this up.  I don't know if the congresswoman was responsible in some way or not.  The fact that this passenger wants United's CEO or whoever to publicly apologize for her sitting in coach is absolutely absurd.
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Post by: sys on December 28, 2017, 01:23:17 PM
i don't see what about the woman's twitter deserves for her to be labeled "awful".  she appears justifiably upset.
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Post by: Skipper44 on December 28, 2017, 01:41:19 PM
i don't see what about the woman's twitter deserves for her to be labeled "awful".  she appears justifiably upset.
leading off your Twitter bio with your prestigious undergrad and Ivy league jd (with class year!) seems awful to me
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Post by: michigancat on December 28, 2017, 02:07:57 PM
i don't see what about the woman's twitter deserves for her to be labeled "awful".  she appears justifiably upset.

she was justifiably upset two weeks ago when it happened but she is currently acting like a child
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Post by: sys on December 28, 2017, 02:48:18 PM
she dismisses gestures made after the event went public as pr gloss.  i would as well.
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Post by: renocat on December 28, 2017, 03:00:46 PM
she dismisses gestures made after the event went public as pr gloss.  i would as well.
This ripsnorter CongressGal thinks she is a queen and the sun rises and sets in butt.  Lady bumped maybe she gradgeated from Harvard University, big whoop ... she is an elementary teacher.  There is not a defense for Sheila Lee.  She has done this for years.  I would have put her in the back with the.dogs.
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Post by: michigancat on December 28, 2017, 03:07:51 PM
she dismisses gestures made after the event went public as pr gloss.  i would as well.

The formal written apology she's demanding wouldn't be "PR gloss"?
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Post by: Trim on December 28, 2017, 03:13:42 PM
Is there even an issue here of this lady getting "bumped?"  She's claiming she was bumped b/c United wanted to appease this politician.  United claims the lady canceled her flight, or at least a leg of it, and that's why they thought there was a 1st-class seat to put the politician in.  I don't know who's lying, but I'd be surprised if United went with a story that could be disproven so easily if it wasn't true.
Title: Re: Bumping airline common passengers so big shots can fly.
Post by: sys on December 28, 2017, 04:47:34 PM
i'm assuming her version is accurate.
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Post by: sys on December 28, 2017, 04:49:44 PM
she dismisses gestures made after the event went public as pr gloss.  i would as well.

The formal written apology she's demanding wouldn't be "PR gloss"?

i'd put that more in the category of: "if you're going to put out a press release saying that you apologized to me, at the very least, apologize to me."
Title: Re: Bumping airline common passengers so big shots can fly.
Post by: michigancat on December 28, 2017, 05:02:30 PM
she dismisses gestures made after the event went public as pr gloss.  i would as well.

The formal written apology she's demanding wouldn't be "PR gloss"?

i'd put that more in the category of: "if you're going to put out a press release saying that you apologized to me, at the very least, apologize to me."

I didn't see this press release you mention, but she acknowledges United apologized, it just wasn't a good enough apology and wasn't in writing.

https://www.facebook.com/jeanmarie.simon.52/posts/10213668012208930


she also seems pretty dumb by posting the image of her printed boarding pass as proof she didn't cancel her flight on her app.

https://thepointsguy.com/2017/12/united-says-bumped-woman-canceled-flight/?utm_source=TWITTER&utm_medium=social&utm_term=Editorial&utm_campaign=TWITTER-100000118042229
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Post by: michigancat on December 28, 2017, 05:17:07 PM
^note that I don't think United is at all in the right here - someone made a mistake, she was compensated (IMO fairly), everyone should move on
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Post by: steve dave on December 28, 2017, 05:55:13 PM
yeah, people love to pile on airlines but in general they do a bang up job of transporting people all over the world 24/7 without killing them.
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Post by: star seed 7 on December 28, 2017, 06:03:06 PM
My flight tonight is delayed  :curse:
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Post by: sys on December 28, 2017, 06:38:19 PM
she acknowledges United apologized, it just wasn't a good enough apology and wasn't in writing.

an employee at a service center apologizing isn't an apology from the company.  i 100% agree with her on that.  those people are forced to apologize from the moment they answer a phone to when they hang up, it's meaningless.
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Post by: 8manpick on December 28, 2017, 06:46:07 PM
My flight tonight is delayed  :curse:
Not me! Going to MHK so no first class. Ugh, commoners.
Title: Re: Bumping airline common passengers so big shots can fly.
Post by: michigancat on December 28, 2017, 06:50:28 PM
she acknowledges United apologized, it just wasn't a good enough apology and wasn't in writing.

an employee at a service center apologizing isn't an apology from the company.  i 100% agree with her on that.  those people are forced to apologize from the moment they answer a phone to when they hang up, it's meaningless.

ok
Title: Bumping airline common passengers so big shots can fly.
Post by: Institutional Control on December 28, 2017, 07:16:12 PM
So the CEO of every airline should set up their desk in the call center so they can personally apologize to every unsatisfied customer.


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Post by: treysolid on December 28, 2017, 07:18:22 PM
IMO, the rich and powerful can treat us plebs however they want. they've earned it. the lady who got bumped should have recognized her station and just shut up.
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Post by: wetwillie on December 28, 2017, 07:34:17 PM
Thank you someone finally gets it ITT
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Post by: renocat on December 28, 2017, 07:57:02 PM
Thank you someone finally gets it ITT
My point is that the Congresswoman abused her office.  People in these offices think they are entitled by being swamp creatures.  That is why they fight so hard to maintain power.  We do as peons do have the power of mass squawking.  It hurt the airline that beat the guy who would not get off the plane.  If I pay for a seat and the plane can fly, it's my seat and some rich or.powerful bastard has no right to it.  Just like cutting to the front of the line.
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Post by: ChiComCat on December 28, 2017, 08:09:17 PM
Thank you someone finally gets it ITT
My point is that the Congresswoman abused her office.  People in these offices think they are entitled by being swamp creatures.  That is why they fight so hard to maintain power.  We do as peons do have the power of mass squawking.  It hurt the airline that beat the guy who would not get off the plane.  If I pay for a seat and the plane can fly, it's my seat and some rich or.powerful bastard has no right to it.  Just like cutting to the front of the line.
I haven’t seen any indication that the Congresswoman did anything but take an upgrade that she was given. United controls that, she doesn’t. I don’t think some United gate agent upgraded her because of her office.  If anything, it’s because she flies back and forth to DC all the time and has status.

I also don’t get how an apology from the CEO greatly differs from a call center. Neither really means it.
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Post by: renocat on December 28, 2017, 08:15:46 PM
Thank you someone finally gets it ITT
My point is that the Congresswoman abused her office.  People in these offices think they are entitled by being swamp creatures.  That is why they fight so hard to maintain power.  We do as peons do have the power of mass squawking.  It hurt the airline that beat the guy who would not get off the plane.  If I pay for a seat and the plane can fly, it's my seat and some rich or.powerful bastard has no right to it.  Just like cutting to the front of the line.
I haven’t seen any indication that the Congresswoman did anything but take an upgrade that she was given. United controls that, she doesn’t. I don’t think some United gate agent upgraded her because of her office.  If anything, it’s because she flies back and forth to DC all the time and has status.

I also don’t get how an apology from the CEO greatly differs from a call center. Neither really means it.
Probably is.the case.  I just don't believe the Congresswoman or United.  Why was lady moved to cheqpo seats?  Why did Congresswoman get to sit in first class instead of the seat they made the teacher sit in?  Why didn't the Congresswoman volunteer to move?
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Post by: renocat on February 23, 2018, 08:36:02 PM
https://www.teenvogue.com/story/woman-flushed-emotional-support-hamster-spirit-airlines
Spirit Airlines made this woman flush her support hamster.  PETA going.beserk.
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Post by: catastrophe on February 23, 2018, 08:48:24 PM
Not at all surprised reno is an avid teen vogue reader.
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Post by: sys on February 23, 2018, 09:16:00 PM
that person should be arrested.
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Post by: 8manpick on February 23, 2018, 09:23:59 PM
that person should be arrested.
I agree, anyone claiming a support hamster should be arrested
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Post by: sys on February 23, 2018, 09:31:26 PM
they make you call them support animals, 8man.  that's the game.
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Post by: wetwillie on February 23, 2018, 10:26:30 PM
Pretty horrible way to die for that hamster.  You’d think someone with an emotional support hamster would know how to make an ethical kill.
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Post by: renocat on February 23, 2018, 11:06:24 PM
Pretty horrible way to die for that hamster.  You’d think someone with an emotional support hamster would know how to make an ethical kill.
Drop a heavy bag on the vermin.  I wonder if it had a little red vest on it.  Probably didn’t so that is why the airline made a snit about it.  I can see a perv trying to sneak one on board in his underwear.
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Post by: Mrs. Gooch on February 24, 2018, 11:32:13 AM
I would have just released the hamster into the a airport...
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Post by: renocat on March 14, 2018, 12:24:31 PM
United must not like dogs.  Just reported they made a family put it's pup in the overhead bin, pup died.  Now a family shipped their dog to KC, but it got shipped to Japan.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/united-airlines-mistakenly-flies-kansas-bound-german-shepherd-to-japan/
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Post by: mocat on March 14, 2018, 01:24:25 PM
is it normal for a dog to be in an overhead?
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Post by: Mrs. Gooch on March 14, 2018, 01:48:06 PM
is it normal for a dog to be in an overhead?

No, in fact it is against United's own policy.
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Post by: Woogy on March 14, 2018, 02:23:01 PM
Makes you long for the day when po'd flight attendants would just crack a beer and pull the cord on e-chute.....
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Post by: Dugout DickStone on March 14, 2018, 02:51:03 PM
The dog was hidden in a duffle bag.  Not a carrier
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Post by: Mrs. Gooch on March 14, 2018, 03:06:17 PM
The dog was hidden in a duffle bag.  Not a carrier

It was a carrier that sort of resembles a duffle bag. It is soft sided but holds the rectangular shape, unlike a limp duffle bag. The passenger told the flight attendant that there was a dog in it and then the dog barked for 2 hours. Plus the flight attendant lifted the bag so would have felt the puppy inside.
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Post by: steve dave on March 14, 2018, 04:08:05 PM
If you bring your animal on a flight without a ticket it should have run the gauntlet imo.


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Post by: Rage Against the McKee on March 14, 2018, 04:47:58 PM
If you bring your animal on a flight without a ticket it should have run the gauntlet imo.


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Yeah, if the carrier won't fit under the seat in front of you, then you should either get off the flight or take your chances with it in the overhead bin.
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Post by: 8manpick on March 14, 2018, 05:14:11 PM
hopefully it teaches those selfish twats not to bring their dogs on flights
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Post by: steve dave on March 14, 2018, 05:17:36 PM
My take also applies to lap children. If you care so little about the safety of your child and the comfort of your neighboring passengers it’s the gauntlet.


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Post by: Mrs. Gooch on March 14, 2018, 05:35:37 PM
 My understanding is that these people paid $125 to bring their pet onto the plane only to have that pet murdered.
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Post by: Rage Against the McKee on March 14, 2018, 06:07:17 PM
My understanding is that these people paid $125 to bring their pet onto the plane only to have that pet murdered.

They failed to put their pet into a small enough carrier. Then they were too cheap to get off the flight and chose to risk its life instead.
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Post by: Trim on March 14, 2018, 06:16:07 PM
Airlines should find their historically less populated and more inconvenient flights and make them pet-friendly. If your dog’s chill and you buy it a full-price ticket and seat, then it can fly with and in the same manner as the humans. Humans w/o dogs could get cheap tickets on those flights too if there’s room.

I’d pay more and take a shitty path to something like FattyFest that I could plan well in advance for and wanted to take the dog to.
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Post by: renocat on March 15, 2018, 06:41:01 AM
More than a half million animals flew in 2017, nearly 140,000 of them on United. Overall, 24 died -- 18 of those also on United flights.  "What happened to this pet was disgraceful," said Louisiana Sen. John Kennedy.

ALONG WITH THE THINGS THAT YOU TELL YOUR KIDS NOT TO SAY ON A JET, TELL THEM NEVER TO BARK LIKE A DOG, ESPECIALLY ON UNITED.
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Post by: Rage Against the McKee on March 15, 2018, 08:19:48 AM
I sat across the aisle from somebody transporting a dog once. It wasn't that bad if you don't mind hearing high pitched whining and smelling dog crap for 3 hours.
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Post by: sys on March 15, 2018, 02:59:09 PM
only some sort of horrible dog-hating misanthrope would mind that.
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Post by: Dugout DickStone on March 15, 2018, 03:29:38 PM
 in a duffle bag, they didn't pay extra and also spoke no English.  The dog was essentially hidden