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General Discussion => The New Joe Montgomery Birther Pit => Topic started by: renocat on April 08, 2017, 06:18:46 PM
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Looks like KFD is going to get paased a law that allows strong beer to be sold at grocery stores, Quickgasses stores, and Big Wally box stores. I am opposed. I am against promoting alcoholism. Drink milk not booze. If someone wants to take a few snorts let them, but don't make it so easy to do so.
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Bout time we got out of the late 1930s and the puritanical way we want to sell booze. Or I can just cross state line. Whichever works easier.
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Hyvees in Nebraska have better liquor and craft beer selection than almost any liquor store I've ever been to in KS. It's amazing one stop shopping. But some are better than others and I choose which Hyvee I go to based on my need to get just food or food and booze. Also our gas stations have liquor. like you go to caseys and get your carton of winstons and your pizza for the kids and your handle of whatever liquor you choose to get blackout on. it's truly what america is all about you guys.
OT: One of the Hyvees near me now has a bar. I was very WTF when I saw it. https://www.hy-veemarketgrille.com/default.aspx
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But our Wholefoods has always had a bar and it's amazing. also they serve shopping beers so you walk in and buy some booze and there's a cup holder in your cart. it's like a bald eagle soaring in front of an american flag backdrop with van halen screaming in the background.
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I've heard several people who are normally very conservative pro free market people argue until blue in the face about keeping liquor stores monopoly on booze selling. They all say the selection will became narrower specifically in craft beer. I think they all must have family or good friends who own liquor stores because I can't understand otherwise.
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I've heard several people who are normally very conservative pro free market people argue until blue in the face about keeping liquor stores monopoly on booze selling. They all say the selection will became narrower specifically in craft beer. I think they all must have family or good friends who own liquor stores because I can't understand otherwise.
that's what happens on opposite day. craft beer selection is amazing and it only makes the beer centric liquor stores go above and beyond to get inventory that doesn't distribute traditionally to the area. there aren't really liquor stores here at all unless they specialize in something (beer, wine, bourbon, etc.)
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It's Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) that you can't by liquor anywhere with a cash register, imho
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SD do you like Nebraska Brewing beer? I do business with them, weird tops to the cans but love the beer.
Also yes, please sell real beer at grocery stores in KS. K, thanks!
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Sd and I agreeing again
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SD do you like Nebraska Brewing beer? I do business with them, weird tops to the cans but love the beer.
Also yes, please sell real beer at grocery stores in KS. K, thanks!
Yeah, they do a good job
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Hyvees in Nebraska have better liquor and craft beer selection than almost any liquor store I've ever been to in KS. It's amazing one stop shopping. But some are better than others and I choose which Hyvee I go to based on my need to get just food or food and booze. Also our gas stations have liquor. like you go to caseys and get your carton of winstons and your pizza for the kids and your handle of whatever liquor you choose to get blackout on. it's truly what america is all about you guys.
OT: One of the Hyvees near me now has a bar. I was very WTF when I saw it. https://www.hy-veemarketgrille.com/default.aspx
The MHK Hy-Vee has had one of those since it was built like8 years ago. Welcome to 2017 SD
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I kinda like the liquor store culture that our Kansas Sharia law has created. It would be a shame to give the power back to the mega corps and murder all these small businesses we forced into existence
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I kinda like the liquor store culture that our Kansas Sharia law has created. It would be a shame to give the power back to the mega corps and murder all these small businesses we forced into existence
Buddy owns a liquor store? Family?
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I believe the response to "Letting big mega corps sell booze at the grocery store would kill the mom and pop stores" is to put a cap in place for 5 years or so where no new booze selling permits are issued. This gives the mom and pops a chance to sell their permit to mega corp or get their act together and figure out how to compete.
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Small stores can never compete with big box scale.... Having friends that run ks liquor stores they will probably be out their business when this happens.... But not like they haven't had time to prepare for it
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Yeah, I feel bad for them but it's not a good reason not to do it
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mom and pop gouged us for years.
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Yeah, I feel bad for them but it's not a good reason not to do it
I'm not sure if benji's solution is viable but that sounds like a good compromise to make the big boys throw the liquor stores a one time pile of cash before they run them into the ground.
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eff mom and pop. and also eff the three tier law(s).
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Small stores can never compete with big box scale.... Having friends that run ks liquor stores they will probably be out their business when this happens.... But not like they haven't had time to prepare for it
Here in Ames there is a massive and elite liquor store literally next door to a Hyvee liquor store. I buy my beer from a neighborhood natural foods store that is 1/4 mile away from the both of them. All three of these places can coexist in a city of 40,000 people because of variety and creativity. The liquor store nearest my house in Wichita was a very big and nice liquor store but it's idea of variety was Sam Adams, that liquor store will need to evolve or it will die.
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Liquor stores do fine in kcmo
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The economic/small business argument is so weird. Why should we assume anything Kansas does has been beneficial to its economy?
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The economic/small business argument is so weird. Why should we assume anything Kansas does has been beneficial to its economy?
Decent point. I think Kansas is good at having a lot of farmers whose crops often get piss pounded by hail/storm/drought and then the government bails them out. We are pretty good at cashing government handouts and subsidies.
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Milk is federally subsidized like 25 cents a gallon so a true patriot would drink beer and pay the sin tax.
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Also, my only concern is that in small towns the liquor store might run shittier hours. No idea if that would really happen tho.
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The economic/small business argument is so weird. Why should we assume anything Kansas does has been beneficial to its economy?
Decent point. I think Kansas is good at having a lot of farmers whose crops often get piss pounded by hail/storm/drought and then the government bails them out. We are pretty good at cashing government handouts and subsidies.
Exactly, and then they in turn bitch about everyone else getting handouts and not pulling themselves up by their bootstraps, lazy city people.
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Grocery stores having better beer selection is ok, I guess. It's better than nothing. I'd rather they get wine, honestly.
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doesn't bother me either way.
"Strong Beer" is a myth when it comes to American lagers FYI
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doesn't bother me either way.
"Strong Beer" is a myth when it comes to American lagers FYI
Yeah, but a lot of beers don't come in 3.2. Allowing stronger should improve selection.
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Great news! :Woot:
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went to costco on sunday. reminded me of this thread because I bought about a full cartload of wine, liquor, and beer. costco is BITB for buying good wine cheap which is awesome because mrs. dave just hammers red as fast as I can stock it.
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The KS legislature is so asinine. I can just see the conversations of the these mouth breathers in their offices - "Look, I know we're 'Republicans' are we're supposed to favor the free market, but I know so and so who owns a liquor store and they just can't compete! Ok, ok... how about we only let the grocery stores sell slightly stronger beer, but not wine or other spirits, and let's not phase this until 2019. Done! Now let's get back to considering these 20 pieces of gun legislation while we avoid making any budget cuts."
This is the problem with only paying state legislators something like 20k a year - you end up with a collection of no-talent asshats.
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The KS legislature is so asinine. I can just see the conversations of the these mouth breathers in their offices - "Look, I know we're 'Republicans' are we're supposed to favor the free market, but I know so and so who owns a liquor store and they just can't compete! Ok, ok... how about we only let the grocery stores sell slightly stronger beer, but not wine or other spirits, and let's not phase this until 2019. Done! Now let's get back to considering these 20 pieces of gun legislation while we avoid making any budget cuts."
This is the problem with only paying state legislators something like 20k a year - you end up with a collection of no-talent asshats.
If we paid them more, we'd still have the same asshats.
I think a lot of it comes down to puritanical values, really. They believe extra burdensome regulation on alcohol is fine because alcohol consumption is a sin, anyway.
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The KS legislature is so asinine. I can just see the conversations of the these mouth breathers in their offices - "Look, I know we're 'Republicans' are we're supposed to favor the free market, but I know so and so who owns a liquor store and they just can't compete! Ok, ok... how about we only let the grocery stores sell slightly stronger beer, but not wine or other spirits, and let's not phase this until 2019. Done! Now let's get back to considering these 20 pieces of gun legislation while we avoid making any budget cuts."
This is the problem with only paying state legislators something like 20k a year - you end up with a collection of no-talent asshats.
The way we sell cars in this country is due to the same Country Club/Chamber of Commerce politics.
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Liquor stores do fine in kcmo
KCMO doesn't represent the typical Kansas town economy.
I think they can both survive if the small liquor store changes their approach and I'm for grocery stores selling booze but I can see the other side of the conversation and it's not only blue morality laws.
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Aldi + Beer= WIN
Dillons + Beer= WIN.. honey guess what you're gonna have a crap ton of cents off at the pump because I loaded that rough ridin' fuel saver up with all the beer I bought
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Should sell weed at the grocery store
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Should sell weed at the grocery store
Such a win for the grocery store. Get baked, and then buy baked goods.
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Liquor stores do fine in kcmo
KCMO doesn't represent the typical Kansas town economy.
I think they can both survive if the small liquor store changes their approach and I'm for grocery stores selling booze but I can see the other side of the conversation and it's not only blue morality laws.
KCMO isn't but all if not most of MO has it where you can buy freaking anything at a gas station as well. Not sure if that decimated mom and pop stores but it's goddamn awesome, and MO seems to be handling that part at least fine.
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Liquor stores do fine in kcmo
... but I can see the other side of the conversation and it's not only blue morality laws.
Please enlighten me, Phillip.
Kansas's draconian alcohol laws seem like a nightmare half-remembered to me now. I'm sorry that for many here, it's a daily reality.
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fun KS fact: airlines used to have to stop serving booze when flying in KS airspace because KS is so KS'y
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If we paid them more, we'd still have the same asshats.
Probably, I guess. But the low pay certainly reduces the pool of people who would consider running. For any smart and talented full-time professional, it's simply too much of a pay cut. So we get this collection of clowns that are typically either retired or have some marginal business they can set aside for months at a time. Generally speaking, they're not terribly bright and don' have any meaningful skin the game.
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fun KS fact: airlines used to have to stop serving booze when flying in KS airspace because KS is so KS'y
But it was fine to smoke up the cabin with your cigarettes.
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fun KS fact: airlines used to have to stop serving booze when flying in KS airspace because KS is so KS'y
But it was fine to smoke up the cabin with your cigarettes.
Cigarettes don't make you want to cheat on your wife, Mrs. Gooch.
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If we paid them more, we'd still have the same asshats.
Probably, I guess. But the low pay certainly reduces the pool of people who would consider running. For any smart and talented full-time professional, it's simply too much of a pay cut. So we get this collection of clowns that are typically either retired or have some marginal business they can set aside for months at a time. Generally speaking, they're not terribly bright and don' have any meaningful skin the game.
I just think that to get any other demographic interested in running for state legislature, you would have to pay them so much more that it would start to actually become a budget issue. It's impossible politically to make cuts to things like education while increasing legislative salaries by millions of dollars.
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I'd rather attract better teachers with higher pay
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Liquor stores do fine in kcmo
... but I can see the other side of the conversation and it's not only blue morality laws.
Please enlighten me, Phillip.
Kansas's draconian alcohol laws seem like a nightmare half-remembered to me now. I'm sorry that for many here, it's a daily reality.
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You live in Texas, right?
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But our Wholefoods has always had a bar and it's amazing. also they serve shopping beers so you walk in and buy some booze and there's a cup holder in your cart. it's like a bald eagle soaring in front of an american flag backdrop with van halen screaming in the background.
that's amazing. reminds me of louisiana where there are drive thru liquor stores/bar and they'll just hand you a margarita and pabst through yr car window and let you drive away
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Kansas has drive thru liquor stores
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OT: One of the Hyvees near me now has a bar. I was very WTF when I saw it. https://www.hy-veemarketgrille.com/default.aspx
the mhk one has that too.. I don't understand it at all..
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Kansas has drive thru liquor stores
Sure, but in La. they have essentially drive through bars. You can order a hurricane or dacquerri and they'll give to you with a straw.
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I'm in favor of not allowing drive through bars in Kansas. I think that is probably a good regulation.
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Kansas has drive thru liquor stores
Sure, but in La. they have essentially drive through bars. You can order a hurricane or dacquerri and they'll give to you with a straw.
yeah, thx mckee. that's what i'm saying. like they'll hand you a jack and coke in a styrofoam cup and send you on down the highway to jennings.
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If we paid them more, we'd still have the same asshats.
Probably, I guess. But the low pay certainly reduces the pool of people who would consider running. For any smart and talented full-time professional, it's simply too much of a pay cut. So we get this collection of clowns that are typically either retired or have some marginal business they can set aside for months at a time. Generally speaking, they're not terribly bright and don' have any meaningful skin the game.
I just think that to get any other demographic interested in running for state legislature, you would have to pay them so much more that it would start to actually become a budget issue. It's impossible politically to make cuts to things like education while increasing legislative salaries by millions of dollars.
In a 4 billion budget, it wouldn't cost us anything meaningful to bump their pay to $150k a year and keep the offices open year round. And if we reduced our legislature down to one body like Nebraska did, we would actually save a ton of money. There's absolutely no reason we need 125 representatives and 40 senators to adequately represent Kansans. Our entire system of state government is wasteful and absurd. We're hemorrhaging money on stupidity and being asked to pay more in taxes for it. Very frustrating.
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I don't think a state legislator should be a full time job. You see the crazy crap they come up with just being bored in their part-time duties?
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Tbh it should just be a weekend gig through Skype
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If we paid them more, we'd still have the same asshats.
Probably, I guess. But the low pay certainly reduces the pool of people who would consider running. For any smart and talented full-time professional, it's simply too much of a pay cut. So we get this collection of clowns that are typically either retired or have some marginal business they can set aside for months at a time. Generally speaking, they're not terribly bright and don' have any meaningful skin the game.
I just think that to get any other demographic interested in running for state legislature, you would have to pay them so much more that it would start to actually become a budget issue. It's impossible politically to make cuts to things like education while increasing legislative salaries by millions of dollars.
In a 4 billion budget, it wouldn't cost us anything meaningful to bump their pay to $150k a year and keep the offices open year round. And if we reduced our legislature down to one body like Nebraska did, we would actually save a ton of money. There's absolutely no reason we need 125 representatives and 40 senators to adequately represent Kansans. Our entire system of state government is wasteful and absurd. We're hemorrhaging money on stupidity and being asked to pay more in taxes for it. Very frustrating.
That pay raise would cost $21,450,000.
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If we paid them more, we'd still have the same asshats.
Probably, I guess. But the low pay certainly reduces the pool of people who would consider running. For any smart and talented full-time professional, it's simply too much of a pay cut. So we get this collection of clowns that are typically either retired or have some marginal business they can set aside for months at a time. Generally speaking, they're not terribly bright and don' have any meaningful skin the game.
I just think that to get any other demographic interested in running for state legislature, you would have to pay them so much more that it would start to actually become a budget issue. It's impossible politically to make cuts to things like education while increasing legislative salaries by millions of dollars.
In a 4 billion budget, it wouldn't cost us anything meaningful to bump their pay to $150k a year and keep the offices open year round. And if we reduced our legislature down to one body like Nebraska did, we would actually save a ton of money. There's absolutely no reason we need 125 representatives and 40 senators to adequately represent Kansans. Our entire system of state government is wasteful and absurd. We're hemorrhaging money on stupidity and being asked to pay more in taxes for it. Very frustrating.
That pay raise would cost $21,450,000.
Aka 0.54%
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If we paid them more, we'd still have the same asshats.
Probably, I guess. But the low pay certainly reduces the pool of people who would consider running. For any smart and talented full-time professional, it's simply too much of a pay cut. So we get this collection of clowns that are typically either retired or have some marginal business they can set aside for months at a time. Generally speaking, they're not terribly bright and don' have any meaningful skin the game.
I just think that to get any other demographic interested in running for state legislature, you would have to pay them so much more that it would start to actually become a budget issue. It's impossible politically to make cuts to things like education while increasing legislative salaries by millions of dollars.
In a 4 billion budget, it wouldn't cost us anything meaningful to bump their pay to $150k a year and keep the offices open year round. And if we reduced our legislature down to one body like Nebraska did, we would actually save a ton of money. There's absolutely no reason we need 125 representatives and 40 senators to adequately represent Kansans. Our entire system of state government is wasteful and absurd. We're hemorrhaging money on stupidity and being asked to pay more in taxes for it. Very frustrating.
we must slash government spending but quintuple legislative pay
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If we paid them more, we'd still have the same asshats.
Probably, I guess. But the low pay certainly reduces the pool of people who would consider running. For any smart and talented full-time professional, it's simply too much of a pay cut. So we get this collection of clowns that are typically either retired or have some marginal business they can set aside for months at a time. Generally speaking, they're not terribly bright and don' have any meaningful skin the game.
I just think that to get any other demographic interested in running for state legislature, you would have to pay them so much more that it would start to actually become a budget issue. It's impossible politically to make cuts to things like education while increasing legislative salaries by millions of dollars.
In a 4 billion budget, it wouldn't cost us anything meaningful to bump their pay to $150k a year and keep the offices open year round. And if we reduced our legislature down to one body like Nebraska did, we would actually save a ton of money. There's absolutely no reason we need 125 representatives and 40 senators to adequately represent Kansans. Our entire system of state government is wasteful and absurd. We're hemorrhaging money on stupidity and being asked to pay more in taxes for it. Very frustrating.
That pay raise would cost $21,450,000.
Aka 0.54%
That is fairly substantial. It's nearly 10% of the budget shortfall.
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hyvee market grille is amazing
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If we paid them more, we'd still have the same asshats.
Probably, I guess. But the low pay certainly reduces the pool of people who would consider running. For any smart and talented full-time professional, it's simply too much of a pay cut. So we get this collection of clowns that are typically either retired or have some marginal business they can set aside for months at a time. Generally speaking, they're not terribly bright and don' have any meaningful skin the game.
I just think that to get any other demographic interested in running for state legislature, you would have to pay them so much more that it would start to actually become a budget issue. It's impossible politically to make cuts to things like education while increasing legislative salaries by millions of dollars.
In a 4 billion budget, it wouldn't cost us anything meaningful to bump their pay to $150k a year and keep the offices open year round. And if we reduced our legislature down to one body like Nebraska did, we would actually save a ton of money. There's absolutely no reason we need 125 representatives and 40 senators to adequately represent Kansans. Our entire system of state government is wasteful and absurd. We're hemorrhaging money on stupidity and being asked to pay more in taxes for it. Very frustrating.
That pay raise would cost $21,450,000.
Aka 0.54%
That is fairly substantial. It's nearly 10% of the budget shortfall.
Fair enough - but that's why I would significantly reduce the number of legislators. We're not getting any added value from paying 165 people crap money to do a shitty job. There is absolutely no reason to have a bicameral legislature at the state level. In addition to all the extra unnecessary people, it creates lots of other inefficiencies.
I would much rather pay a smaller group of people, selected from a more talented pool of applicants, a decent amount of money to work this job. Topeka is an absolute joke. It's like student government meets FFA. These are not the people I want making tax and spending decisions.
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If we paid them more, we'd still have the same asshats.
Probably, I guess. But the low pay certainly reduces the pool of people who would consider running. For any smart and talented full-time professional, it's simply too much of a pay cut. So we get this collection of clowns that are typically either retired or have some marginal business they can set aside for months at a time. Generally speaking, they're not terribly bright and don' have any meaningful skin the game.
I just think that to get any other demographic interested in running for state legislature, you would have to pay them so much more that it would start to actually become a budget issue. It's impossible politically to make cuts to things like education while increasing legislative salaries by millions of dollars.
In a 4 billion budget, it wouldn't cost us anything meaningful to bump their pay to $150k a year and keep the offices open year round. And if we reduced our legislature down to one body like Nebraska did, we would actually save a ton of money. There's absolutely no reason we need 125 representatives and 40 senators to adequately represent Kansans. Our entire system of state government is wasteful and absurd. We're hemorrhaging money on stupidity and being asked to pay more in taxes for it. Very frustrating.
That pay raise would cost $21,450,000.
Aka 0.54%
That is fairly substantial. It's nearly 10% of the budget shortfall.
Fair enough - but that's why I would significantly reduce the number of legislators. We're not getting any added value from paying 165 people crap money to do a shitty job. There is absolutely no reason to have a bicameral legislature at the state level. In addition to all the extra unnecessary people, it creates lots of other inefficiencies.
I would much rather pay a smaller group of people, selected from a more talented pool of applicants, a decent amount of money to work this job. Topeka is an absolute joke. It's like student government meets FFA. These are not the people I want making tax and spending decisions.
I love the smell of aristocracy and oligarchy in the morning.
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I like my local control just fine thanks!
I have a state senator and a US senator within walking distance. bet you don't get that in unicameral country (well, I probably would but you know what I mean).
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Wouldn't the low pay lead to more legislators with other sources of significant income? You know, business owners and stuff.
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Wouldn't the low pay lead to more legislators with other sources of significant income? You know, business owners and stuff.
yes, I don't think upping legislator pay is a bad idea at all.
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The problem with offering more money for the position is that, even if it enticed more intelligent applicants, those people are still being elected by a (largely) uneducated public. And I don't mean to say the general public is full of idiots (although it is), more that regular people just can't or don't spend enough time to evaluate the actual merits of people running for office.
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The problem with offering more money for the position is that, even if it enticed more intelligent applicants, those people are still being elected by a (largely) uneducated public. And I don't mean to say the general public is full of idiots (although it is), more that regular people just can't or don't spend enough time to evaluate the actual merits of people running for office.
You're right, but that doesn't change the fact that the low pay relative to the demands of the schedule discourages the very people we ought to encourage to serve: young working professionals. How many have a job that they can just put on the shelf for four months of the year while they go to Topeka to earn $250/day? My rep is a retiree who's made his bucks and does not give two shits about raising my income taxes by a couple Gs a year.
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good idea: privatize the state legislature
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I'll run for office guys. Going to need a lot of fraudulent voting from you guys in my district though.
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hyvee market grille is amazing
Does your market grille have the wontons with siracha and maple syrup?
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If we paid them more, we'd still have the same asshats.
Probably, I guess. But the low pay certainly reduces the pool of people who would consider running. For any smart and talented full-time professional, it's simply too much of a pay cut. So we get this collection of clowns that are typically either retired or have some marginal business they can set aside for months at a time. Generally speaking, they're not terribly bright and don' have any meaningful skin the game.
I just think that to get any other demographic interested in running for state legislature, you would have to pay them so much more that it would start to actually become a budget issue. It's impossible politically to make cuts to things like education while increasing legislative salaries by millions of dollars.
In a 4 billion budget, it wouldn't cost us anything meaningful to bump their pay to $150k a year and keep the offices open year round. And if we reduced our legislature down to one body like Nebraska did, we would actually save a ton of money. There's absolutely no reason we need 125 representatives and 40 senators to adequately represent Kansans. Our entire system of state government is wasteful and absurd. We're hemorrhaging money on stupidity and being asked to pay more in taxes for it. Very frustrating.
You must have missed where taxes were slashed to unsustainable rates and completely eliminated for most businesses. It's overdue.
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This is the lite version of the full booze every where restoration that was tossed around last year, right? I can see no argument against beer freedom.
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fun KS fact: airlines used to have to stop serving booze when flying in KS airspace because KS is so KS'y
But it was fine to smoke up the cabin with your cigarettes.
Cigs are the gateway to hell. Booze, cigs, playboy magazines aren't natural. I don't see critters in the wild having tailgating parties drinking, oogling at female critters while smoking. I am proud to say I have never smoked, cigarettes. The others ........ Big box stores have caused many small town businesses to close. This will kill Haven's Elixir For Life Pharmacy Store and all of Se Reno will have to drive to Wichita for liquors. K-96 will become a hell highway hazard with drunk Amish weaving between lanes. No, keep as.is.
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Alcohol is as natural as it gets. Many animals get drunk in the wild.
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Imagine the shitstorm liberals would throw if they voted to dramatically increase their own pay.
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Also, many of you drink too much, enough that I'm sure it's impacting your health, and that makes me sad.
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Imagine the shitstorm liberals would throw if they voted to dramatically increase their own pay.
I think conservatives would be more pissed off about that than the liberals. It would have bi-partisan opposition, though.
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you know what else is very lol about KS (assuming this is still the case anyway)? the no mixers in the booze store. you have to buy your booze and then buy your other crap somewhere else? no limes, ginger beer, etc.? gmafb. at Hyvee here you get limes (at grocery store lime prices) and all that crap right next to your handle of premium well liquor like god intended. and you get a redbull on the way out. and a shopping cart. and chips. and you earn fuel saver points. and Lee Greenwood is blaring in the outside speakers as you wheel your loot to your giant V8 SUV.
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People north of here really really like Hy-Vee I've learned
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FWIW, I'm not sure you get those fuel points for alcohol purchases. At least I believe that's the case at most stores.
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FWIW, I'm not sure you get those fuel points for alcohol purchases. At least I believe that's the case at most stores.
protip: limes aren't alcohol
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you know what else is very lol about KS (assuming this is still the case anyway)? the no mixers in the booze store. you have to buy your booze and then buy your other crap somewhere else? no limes, ginger beer, etc.? gmafb. at Hyvee here you get limes (at grocery store lime prices) and all that crap right next to your handle of premium well liquor like god intended. and you get a redbull on the way out. and a shopping cart. and chips. and you earn fuel saver points. and Lee Greenwood is blaring in the outside speakers as you wheel your loot to your giant V8 SUV.
party shop
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People north of here really really like Hy-Vee I've learned
omaha grocery/liquor store combo rankings:
Multi Location Rankings:
Elite Tier
1) Whole Foods
2) Hyvee
3) Wohlners
Mid Tier
1) Bakers (dillons)
2) Target
3) Trader Joes (loses points for no liquor, just wine and beer and their own brand is extreme garbage)
Garbage Tier
1) Family Fare
2) Walmart Neighborhood Market
3) Fareway
4) No Frills
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that list is pretty similar to my region of the greater metro KC with the exclusion of why is there no Sprouts?
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you know what else is very lol about KS (assuming this is still the case anyway)? the no mixers in the booze store. you have to buy your booze and then buy your other crap somewhere else? no limes, ginger beer, etc.? gmafb. at Hyvee here you get limes (at grocery store lime prices) and all that crap right next to your handle of premium well liquor like god intended. and you get a redbull on the way out. and a shopping cart. and chips. and you earn fuel saver points. and Lee Greenwood is blaring in the outside speakers as you wheel your loot to your giant V8 SUV.
I've bought ginger beer at a liquor store. It has 1% alcohol! (may be rounded up)
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People north of here really really like Hy-Vee I've learned
omaha grocery/liquor store combo rankings:
Multi Location Rankings:
Elite Tier
1) Whole Foods
2) Hyvee
3) Wohlners
Mid Tier
1) Bakers (dillons)
2) Target
3) Trader Joes (loses points for no liquor, just wine and beer and their own brand is extreme garbage)
Garbage Tier
1) Family Fare
2) Walmart Neighborhood Market
3) Fareway
4) No Frills
Bought food one time at a target trying to be a slick suburbanite.....Threw it all away.
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There was some company selling 1% cola too
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Talk about First World of Booze problems.
Idiot legislature out here has finally allowed restaurants to tear down the big wall around the booze. Now you just need a short wall to keep the kids from becoming alcoholics.
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There is an empty price chopper/dillons in my neighborhood.
I'd kill for a sprouts.
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Getting a sprouts in like 1-2 miles away! :woot:
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In DFW...
Elite Tier
Central Market
Market Street
Mid Tier
Sprouts
Trader Joes
Kroger
Tom Thumb
Garbage Tier
Walmart
Target
Aldis
Brookshires
Albertsons
Fiesta
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Tom Thumb walks a fine line between mid and garbage
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they open any HEBs there yet?
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Tom Thumb walks a fine line between mid and garbage
Agreed. Although there is a Tom Thumb in Frisco that borders on "elite".
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they open any HEBs there yet?
Supposedly, HEB has been buying land to put in stores here. But that rumor goes around all the time, so who knows.
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And I guess Central Market is owned by HEB.
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they open any HEBs there yet?
Supposedly, HEB has been buying land to put in stores here. But that rumor goes around all the time, so who knows.
Bought a bunch of land, putting in a couple more Central Markets and selling the rest. :frown:
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You know Reno, the next thing we'll see is those dirty southerns' selling moonshine out of the back of their pickup trucks. :Wha:
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HEB and whole foods are pretty bitb
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People north of here really really like Hy-Vee I've learned
omaha grocery/liquor store combo rankings:
Multi Location Rankings:
Elite Tier
1) Whole Foods
2) Hyvee
3) Wohlners
Mid Tier
1) Bakers (dillons)
2) Target
3) Trader Joes (loses points for no liquor, just wine and beer and their own brand is extreme garbage)
Garbage Tier
1) Family Fare
2) Walmart Neighborhood Market
3) Fareway
4) No Frills
Watch your mouth about fareway, boy
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In DFW...
Elite Tier
Central Market
Market Street
Mid Tier
Sprouts
Trader Joes
Kroger
Tom Thumb
Garbage Tier
Walmart
Target
Aldis
Brookshires
Albertsons
Fiesta
There is zero chance you've ever seen the inside of a fiesta
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In DFW...
Elite Tier
Central Market
Market Street
Mid Tier
Sprouts
Trader Joes
Kroger
Tom Thumb
Garbage Tier
Walmart
Target
Aldis
Brookshires
Albertsons
Fiesta
There is zero chance you've ever seen the inside of a fiesta
That's false. When I first moved to Dallas I lived 2 blocks from a Fiesta. Went there all the time. I haven't been to one in about 15 years but I have been many times.
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Looking forward to Hy-Vee expanding their "mixers' isle
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that list is pretty similar to my region of the greater metro KC with the exclusion of why is there no Sprouts?
no sprouts. we have like natural grocers and fresh thyme but they don't sell booze.
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Chicago is chock full of elite grocery / booze combos:
1: Whole Foods
2. Mariano's
3. Jewel-Osco
4. Trader Joes
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THere is a "Payless" which is basically a price chopper without the bakery, Deli, or grocery sackers.
The produce selection and "Hispanic" section are Amaze. Most around would consider it garbage tier but not me!
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In DFW...
Elite Tier
Central Market
Market Street
Mid Tier
Sprouts
Trader Joes
Kroger
Tom Thumb
Garbage Tier
Walmart
Target
Aldis
Brookshires
Albertsons
Fiesta
There is zero chance you've ever seen the inside of a fiesta
That's false. When I first moved to Dallas I lived 2 blocks from a Fiesta. Went there all the time. I haven't been to one in about 15 years but I have been many times.
Wow! That wasn't meant to be a shot at you either, I've been in fiesta once. I'm curious to know where you lived where you were two blocks from a (https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.fiestamart.com%2Fimages%2Ffiesta-logo.png&hash=b91f332720e87d306fd9afab4a2016c3a0d54ad1)
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Texas people really love H-E-B. I mean I get being in love with QT but I don't get being in love with a grocer.
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that list is pretty similar to my region of the greater metro KC with the exclusion of why is there no Sprouts?
no sprouts. we have like natural grocers and fresh thyme but they don't sell booze.
I'm Costco booze purchaser like 90% of time, the SAHM has so much free time she buys WF booze between like spa appts, Pilates and mani pedis or whatever they do
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Wow! That wasn't meant to be a shot at you either, I've been in fiesta once. I'm curious to know where you lived where you were two blocks from a (https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.fiestamart.com%2Fimages%2Ffiesta-logo.png&hash=b91f332720e87d306fd9afab4a2016c3a0d54ad1)
I lived in a shitty apartment complex in northeast Dallas. Near Skillman and Abrams.
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Wow! That wasn't meant to be a shot at you either, I've been in fiesta once. I'm curious to know where you lived where you were two blocks from a (https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.fiestamart.com%2Fimages%2Ffiesta-logo.png&hash=b91f332720e87d306fd9afab4a2016c3a0d54ad1)
I lived in a shitty apartment complex in northeast Dallas. Near Skillman and Abrams.
That area isn't horrible, I wouldn't have thought there was a fiesta over there. I stayed in the Wyndam on 635 and 75. I got some blue bell at the Kroger on Greenville & Mockingbird.
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You boozers won't even make it out of the parking lots. Passed out and puking in your sacks of groceries. Buying liquor should be hard and mysterious. Something about booze shopping at a place where there are bars on the is exciting. Will this law result in grocery store holdups? We prostitutes frequent the bread aisles? Can a school be within a 1000 yards of a booze grocery store?' Will they close grocery stores on election day? The slide to heathenNation is painful.
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Wow! That wasn't meant to be a shot at you either, I've been in fiesta once. I'm curious to know where you lived where you were two blocks from a (https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.fiestamart.com%2Fimages%2Ffiesta-logo.png&hash=b91f332720e87d306fd9afab4a2016c3a0d54ad1)
I lived in a shitty apartment complex in northeast Dallas. Near Skillman and Abrams.
That area isn't horrible, I wouldn't have thought there was a fiesta over there. I stayed in the Wyndam on 635 and 75. I got some blue bell at the Kroger on Greenville & Mockingbird.
You're never more than 10 minutes away from a pretty sketchy part of town if you live in the city of Dallas. It's part of the charm.
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I am surprised ol Sam signed this Bill into law. It is sad they can ram this through and.not give a rat's ass about funding schools adequately. Maybe this results in new beer grocery stores in small towns.
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I am surprised ol Sam signed this Bill into law. It is sad they can ram this through and.not give a rat's ass about funding schools adequately. Maybe this results in new beer grocery stores in small towns.
I bet Sam chugs booze non stop
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I am surprised ol Sam signed this Bill into law. It is sad they can ram this through and.not give a rat's ass about funding schools adequately. Maybe this results in new beer grocery stores in small towns.
I bet Sam chugs booze non stop
Probably explains a lot of the actions coming from him I
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