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TITLETOWN - A Decade Long Celebration Of The Greatest Achievement In College Athletics History => Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball => Topic started by: #LIFE on March 29, 2017, 12:17:22 AM
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Hilltop, you have brought up a very important matter. I'm on Twitter so I can follow K-State Athletics through coaching tweets, sports writers, etc.
I am disgusted to no end by the continual tweets of fans, and sports media, who are ridiculing John Currie and Coach Weber over Frank Martin. I, too, would like to hear the other side of the story. Frank's latest round of success, fueled by good fortune as much as anything, has brought a relentless attack upon Currie and Weber because the Martin cult is convinced Currie drove Frank out of Manhattan. I wish we could hear Currie's side of the story, but that will never happen.
Here's what I know. When it comes to John Currie vs. Frank Martin, I side with John Currie until someone can provide me with proof of John Currie having received discipline, or censure, for unprofessional conduct or rule breaking. I know that Frank Martin was disciplined by Florida's High School Athletic Association for breaking rules. I know that the DC pipeline was corrupt. We know that Beasley's mother was being paid. We know how things have turned out for Malone and Dalonte Hill. We know that there was an under the table deal struck with Ron Prince, which ended up costing Kansas State a bunch of money. All of this corrupt activity was in place before John Currie stepped foot on campus. There is something more that we all know. When Jamar Samuels (he who was part of the DC corrupt connection) was found picking up wired money, an infraction confirmed by the NCAA, Coach Martin was incensed at John Currie for suspending Jamar. If that wasn't bad enough, Martin made light of the NCAA rule on providing athletes with money. Let me continue to build my case. Just six months after Frank Martin shed tears on TV about John Currie extending his contract with a hefty raise, the man was complaining because Miami would not contact him about their coaching position. I continue. Women and children were appalled by the vulgarity being screamed loud enough on the sideline for a third of the coliseum to hear. Many complained to the AD. I have stated nothing but verifiable facts.
John Currie was hired to restore donor trust and return Kansas State Athletics to a sound financial footing. The man accomplished this feat in remarkable time. Many, of the same sports media who now ridicule John Currie, were ridiculing Kansas State's Athletic program as the Ron Prince fiasco came to light. These people make me sick to my stomach because all they care about is WINNING. If Ron Prince would have taken Kansas State to a National Championship game, very few would have cared if Prince had been promised four times as much under the table.
When I read a charge that John Currie was having players followed, I ask: Why in the hell would he not do such a thing if he suspected corruption? The man was hired to restore Kansas State Athletics to honor. Go back and read the facts I presented about Frank Martin's history, the DC Pipeline, and the Jamar Samuels situation. Then, look me straight in the eye, and ask: "Learnin, who do you think is the villain in this story? Do you think John or Frank is the villain?"
This country has knelt down to worship the beast of fame, power and money. Fake news is inhaled by the multitude when it supports our guy or gal; when it tells us what we want to hear; when our guy or gal WINS. There is little room at the inn for the John Curries of the world.....we need the elite 8...and we'll get down and dirty if that's what it takes.
Again, you write words of wisdom and I thank you. Your lines, here, are a masterpiece when it comes to this argument. They need to be repeated:
"and what I am reasonably sure of is there is more to Currie's side of the debate than has gotten out or will likely ever get out. Once they are no longer employed, the person/camp on the employee side has much more freedom to spread their version of what happened than the employer side so Martin and his supporters have been talking much more freely."
This is precisely how things are playing out. The employer (Currie) must remain silent especially since he is a man of professional integrity. He will take the continual beating and remain silent while the Martin cult will spread their version of the truth throughout the media.
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the fake news stuff was a tasty treat
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Does anyone seriously know this guy IRL? I'd spend a couple days in jail just to beat his face in
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I've seen pictures of him at nutPAK
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relentless attack upon Currie and Weber
Agree w/OP that it's bullshit that Schulz keeps getting left off the hook.
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Some day TuckNation will get that Jamar and Malone had a pre-existing relationship.
I just stand back and shake my head at people who have an issue with a kid getting a little extra money from a friend. I give zero effs about what ultimately happened to Malone. That's immaterial.
It's tiresome reading the words of our predominately white middle to upper middle class fans.
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I love reading that crap. :love:
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I love reading that crap. :love:
I don't. It reminds me that there are more of "them" who want K-State to fail.
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Great post #LIFE
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"Women and children were appalled by the vulgarity being screamed loud enough on the sideline for a third of the coliseum to hear. Many complained to the AD."
That's why we'll always be smalltime losers... because an AD actually considered firing a guy because he used bad language on the court and people complained.
Think South Carolina gives a crap?
Two sides to every story....
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Well he was suspended at usc so yeah they probably care
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Well he was suspended at usc so yeah they probably care
I mean...
http://www.thestate.com/sports/article13840583.html
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I just want to win. eff John Currie. eff closed-minded Kansans. The same dumbasses who are pro-Currie are the same ones who voted for Brownback. How did I deduce that?...I dunno but it is probably true.
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Frank was a half step away from being canned at USC. Seriously Book, can you read?
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I love reading that crap. :love:
I don't. It reminds me that there are more of "them" who want K-State to fail.
meh, there isn't more of them than us. They like being the lovable loser and the crap they post is laughable.
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This country has knelt down to worship the beast of fame, power and money.
Well, that seems kind of hyperbolic given that we're talking about college basketball.
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Does anyone seriously know this guy IRL? I'd spend a couple days in jail just to beat his face in
I'd pay your bail.
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lol rampage.
http://www.commercialappeal.com/story/sports/columnists/geoff-calkins/2017/04/01/99905364/
(https://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/1f2e3cd6428d54e30d4542f23c1b2bcf46efe396/c=11-0-3315-2484&r=x393&c=520x390/local/-/media/2017/02/28/TennGroup/Knoxville/636238808360574750-neyland.co-5859.JPG)
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I'm glad someone had the balls to ask him
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His deception is so skillful. It's easy to see how the fools fall for this crap. Honestly, sometimes I envy them rather than pity them, but mostly I pity them.
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i can't wait until god finally kills currie.
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My mom thinks I'm a nice guy
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I'd have loved to hear Currie's answer to the question, "Did you once tell LHC Bill Snyder as he was leaving a meeting to, 'Sit your ass down!'?"
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I honestly thought that was a parody article.
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Ask yourself this question, how is it that Jamar Samuels was literally stalked to the point where Currie was visibly excited that he caught him for what he did, or Jake and Curtis were punished for some free jeans, yet Marcus Foster and crew got away with practically murder for over a year before they finally parted ways with him?
He trippin' so much, fans gonna begin to think he done fell off!
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marcus got mumped as well. the mismanagement of our athletic and coaching talent by our crew of small timey dipshit AD, garbage coach, and school president has been astounding.
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Ask yourself this question, how is it that Jamar Samuels was literally stalked to the point where Currie was visibly excited that he caught him for what he did, or Jake and Curtis were punished for some free jeans, yet Marcus Foster and crew got away with practically murder for over a year before they finally parted ways with him?
He trippin' so much, fans gonna begin to think he done fell off!
Drugs is a 3 strike process at John Currie's K-State Athletic Department (5 strikes and then a stern talking to at KU, which has it right).
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Jake and Curtis absolutely should have been suspended. It does the Jamar situation a disservice to compare the two.
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What exactly do you think foster "and crew" got away with other than getting high?
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What exactly do you think foster "and crew" got away with other than getting high?
Getting high on what is the real question. And what exactly do you think Foster didn't get away with other than getting high? TTU trip. TCU trip. It's ok, we used him until the season was over then just sent him a text letting him know he was done.
He trippin' so much, fans gonna begin to think he done fell off!
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Oh, ok
:Ugh:
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:sdeek: Gary Parish told Soren Petro that after Frank's last game, that tournament game in which Currie unnecessarily suspended Jamar, Frank was crying before going into the press conference and Currie told him to fix his tie. The guy isa sociopath.
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Hopefully Wake Forest cans his ass.
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He's done a pretty decent job there so far and I think his sensibilities match up well with Wake.
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Forbes seems to be doing well there
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I'll never not want the worst for John Currie's career. Hey John, thanks for the new facilities, and may history never forget that you are a complete sociopath who chased Jamar Samuels around Dillons and gleefully smiled and then hid behind FERPA at the press conference about his suspension. You got everything you deserved with the Tennessee football coaching hire disaster and it was one of the greatest moments of schadenfreude I have ever experienced.
FJC forever. Frank deserved better.
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I'll never not want the worst for John Currie's career. Hey John, thanks for the new facilities, and may history never forget that you are a complete sociopath who chased Jamar Samuels around Dillons and gleefully smiled and then hid behind FERPA at the press conference about his suspension. You got everything you deserved with the Tennessee football coaching hire disaster and it was one of the greatest moments of schadenfreude I have ever experienced.
FJC forever. Frank deserved better.
This.