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Title: Is KU football still hurting?
Post by: CHONGS on March 23, 2017, 05:54:30 PM
Kansas football still has an early top-15 class. Can KU keep its 2 Louisiana 4-stars? - http://bndl.tw/q0FOonvH

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Post by: BMWWcat on March 26, 2017, 08:23:33 PM
2 4 star peanuts in a turd ain't gonna make that crap smell any better...
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Post by: treysolid on March 27, 2017, 03:53:15 PM
They'll be hurting until they don't finish last in conference two years in a row.
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Post by: deputy dawg on September 15, 2021, 10:26:39 AM
Can KU football be turning the corner?  Their latest football hire was not a former good/great coach, but one that seems solid. 

Why?

KU has the fewest penalty yards of any team in the conference, and the only team to have zero turnovers.  Could this speak to a basic discipline that will lead to bigger and greater progress?
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Post by: MadCat on September 15, 2021, 11:48:30 AM
Can KU football be turning the corner?  Their latest football hire was not a former good/great coach, but one that seems solid. 

Why?

KU has the fewest penalty yards of any team in the conference, and the only team to have zero turnovers.  Could this speak to a basic discipline that will lead to bigger and greater progress?
Watch out when they get a full roster of football players
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Post by: Dr Rick Daris on September 15, 2021, 11:49:13 AM
Can KU football be turning the corner?  Their latest football hire was not a former good/great coach, but one that seems solid. 

Why?

KU has the fewest penalty yards of any team in the conference, and the only team to have zero turnovers.  Could this speak to a basic discipline that will lead to bigger and greater progress?

Yes. Good news-they’ll still suck
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Post by: pissclams on September 15, 2021, 04:38:30 PM
ku has definitely improved year over year but they’ve still got a long way to go
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Post by: Spracne on September 15, 2021, 04:50:03 PM
ku has definitely improved year over year but they’ve still got a long way to go

That's fine by me, as long as we get a little bit better ever-y day.
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Post by: PurpleOil on September 15, 2021, 05:51:26 PM
ku has definitely improved year over year but they’ve still got a long way to go

That's fine by me, as long as we get a little bit better ever-y day.

#4 Improve
Title: Re: Is KU football still hurting?
Post by: pissclams on September 15, 2021, 07:48:21 PM
this coach is the first actual coach that they have had since gill and as deputy dawg said there is some discipline in this team. they’re actually playing football versus wtf we’ve seen lately.  right now they just don’t have any talent.
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Post by: Katpappy on September 15, 2021, 08:27:20 PM
this coach is the first actual coach that they have had since gill and as deputy dawg said there is some discipline in this team. they’re actually playing football versus wtf we’ve seen lately.  right now they just don’t have any talent.

Most of their talent transferred to other teams and are starting on those teams.
Title: Re: Is KU football still hurting?
Post by: DQ12 on September 17, 2021, 09:13:18 AM
this coach is the first actual coach that they have had since gill and as deputy dawg said there is some discipline in this team. they’re actually playing football versus wtf we’ve seen lately.  right now they just don’t have any talent.
We say this every year.  The bar is so low among fans, when really, there were certainly a few games in Miles' tenure where KU looked like they may have something.  2019 BC, 2019 Texas, 2019 Tech, 2019 Iowa State.  They were sorta competitive with coastal last year, almost beat tech.

KU so far this year beat South Dakota in a nailbiter and got blown out by coastal.  "Oh look at this progress!" 

Maybe Liepold gets them on track, maybe not, but i don't know how you can look at what they've done so far and walk away thinking it looks like anything other than what we've seen out of them since 2010.
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Post by: WildcatNkilt on September 17, 2021, 09:31:17 AM
I think people see positivity because their QB isn't complete trash.  189 yds passing (0 INT which usually never happens), and 102 yds rushing with 2 TDs.  KU had 0 turnovers.  Good signs! 
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Post by: DQ12 on September 17, 2021, 10:00:01 AM
i can't decide which phase of the KU Football Circle of Life is my favorite.  Whether it's over the course of three years or four years, the following cycle plays over and over:

Phase 1: Alright boys, new coach!  Not the most inspiring hire, but at least we've got a guy who knows football.  let's give him a ton of time.  He should be a great recruiter, and anyone is better than that last clown.

Phase 2: Tough season, but it's obvious we're moving in the right direction.  And none of this is unexpected given the shithole the last coach left us in. Let's be patient.

Phase 3:  Horrible season.  I still think this coach is the guy, but if we don't start seeing results next year I think we need to let him go.

Phase 4:  Fire this idiot.  Why is he recruiting so many jucos?  Our football team is an embarrassment.  Anyone would be better than this clown.
We are between phases 1 and 2.  By the end of this season, when KU wins 1 or fewer games in the Big 12 (for the 13th straight year [!!!]), we'll be fully in Phase 2, bright eyed and bushy tailed ready to make our path towards phase 3 next year.
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Post by: catastrophe on September 17, 2021, 10:11:53 AM
The most frustrating part is that they’re not giving anyone more than 3 years to turn their massive turd around. I legitimately think Beaty could have had them sniffing bowl eligibility if they didn’t get suckered into Miles.
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Post by: ChiComCat on September 17, 2021, 10:26:48 AM
Gill - Mid-major
Weis - Big name failure
Beaty - Cheap up and comer
Miles - Big name failure
Leipold - Mid-major

They'll be due for another big name with their next hire.  Given the conference fluctuations, I wouldn't be surprised if they shorten the leash on Leipold a little bit more and try to hire that big name sooner to show the P5 that they are taking football seriously. 

I think KU has to hire Kiffin at some point, right?
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Post by: PurpleOil on September 17, 2021, 10:55:59 AM
Kiffin at KU!?!?!?

Nah, I want to see Harbaugh come back home.
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Post by: MadCat on September 17, 2021, 11:05:32 AM
Let's see what Urban has to say first.
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Post by: passranch on September 17, 2021, 11:51:40 AM
Let's see what Urban has to say first.

You have to at least make him say no.
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Post by: WildcatNation on September 17, 2021, 02:33:39 PM
i can't decide which phase of the KU Football Circle of Life is my favorite.  Whether it's over the course of three years or four years, the following cycle plays over and over:

Phase 1: Alright boys, new coach!  Not the most inspiring hire, but at least we've got a guy who knows football.  let's give him a ton of time.  He should be a great recruiter, and anyone is better than that last clown.

Phase 2: Tough season, but it's obvious we're moving in the right direction.  And none of this is unexpected given the shithole the last coach left us in. Let's be patient.

Phase 3:  Horrible season.  I still think this coach is the guy, but if we don't start seeing results next year I think we need to let him go.

Phase 4:  Fire this idiot.  Why is he recruiting so many jucos?  Our football team is an embarrassment.  Anyone would be better than this clown.
We are between phases 1 and 2.  By the end of this season, when KU wins 1 or fewer games in the Big 12 (for the 13th straight year [!!!]), we'll be fully in Phase 2, bright eyed and bushy tailed ready to make our path towards phase 3 next year.

My God, 13 straight 1 win or less conference seasons. Big time yikes even for them.
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Post by: catastrophe on September 17, 2021, 05:33:21 PM
STRA13T is in their destiny
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Post by: TheFormerKCCat on September 17, 2021, 06:04:50 PM
I mean, it has to be Harbaugh, right? Oh, they'll WANT Urban, but Urban's too smart for that. Time to search the archives for the Harbaugh to KU threads (complete with photos, if I recall correctly). TSC Baby!
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Post by: fun muffin on September 17, 2021, 06:09:49 PM
this coach is the first actual coach that they have had since gill and as deputy dawg said there is some discipline in this team. they’re actually playing football versus wtf we’ve seen lately.  right now they just don’t have any talent.
We say this every year.  The bar is so low among fans, when really, there were certainly a few games in Miles' tenure where KU looked like they may have something.  2019 BC, 2019 Texas, 2019 Tech, 2019 Iowa State.  They were sorta competitive with coastal last year, almost beat tech.

KU so far this year beat South Dakota in a nailbiter and got blown out by coastal.  "Oh look at this progress!" 

Maybe Liepold gets them on track, maybe not, but i don't know how you can look at what they've done so far and walk away thinking it looks like anything other than what we've seen out of them since 2010.

This bean fella looks to be their best QB in the last decade.  His play alone makes me think they are improved.  It's a low bar for them, but I think he's a serviceable qb at this level.  And the eye test for me says they showed quite a bit of improvement from week 1 to week 2. 
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Post by: DQ12 on September 19, 2021, 09:58:42 AM
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this coach is the first actual coach that they have had since gill and as deputy dawg said there is some discipline in this team. they’re actually playing football versus wtf we’ve seen lately.  right now they just don’t have any talent.
We say this every year.  The bar is so low among fans, when really, there were certainly a few games in Miles' tenure where KU looked like they may have something.  2019 BC, 2019 Texas, 2019 Tech, 2019 Iowa State.  They were sorta competitive with coastal last year, almost beat tech.

KU so far this year beat South Dakota in a nailbiter and got blown out by coastal.  "Oh look at this progress!" 

Maybe Liepold gets them on track, maybe not, but i don't know how you can look at what they've done so far and walk away thinking it looks like anything other than what we've seen out of them since 2010.

This bean fella looks to be their best QB in the last decade.  His play alone makes me think they are improved.  It's a low bar for them, but I think he's a serviceable qb at this level.  And the eye test for me says they showed quite a bit of improvement from week 1 to week 2.
8-17 for 57 yards yesterday.
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Post by: MakeItRain on September 19, 2021, 10:36:09 AM
:driving:
this coach is the first actual coach that they have had since gill and as deputy dawg said there is some discipline in this team. they’re actually playing football versus wtf we’ve seen lately.  right now they just don’t have any talent.
We say this every year.  The bar is so low among fans, when really, there were certainly a few games in Miles' tenure where KU looked like they may have something.  2019 BC, 2019 Texas, 2019 Tech, 2019 Iowa State.  They were sorta competitive with coastal last year, almost beat tech.

KU so far this year beat South Dakota in a nailbiter and got blown out by coastal.  "Oh look at this progress!" 

Maybe Liepold gets them on track, maybe not, but i don't know how you can look at what they've done so far and walk away thinking it looks like anything other than what we've seen out of them since 2010.

This bean fella looks to be their best QB in the last decade.  His play alone makes me think they are improved.  It's a low bar for them, but I think he's a serviceable qb at this level.  And the eye test for me says they showed quite a bit of improvement from week 1 to week 2.
8-17 for 57 yards yesterday.

Did he get pulled?
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Post by: steve dave on September 19, 2021, 11:54:25 AM
Yeah
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Post by: Cire on September 19, 2021, 03:04:36 PM
He’s basically a wide receiver playing Qb. Very fast and skinny. Can’t throw


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Title: Re: Is KU football still hurting?
Post by: DQ12 on September 19, 2021, 03:23:05 PM
:driving:
this coach is the first actual coach that they have had since gill and as deputy dawg said there is some discipline in this team. they’re actually playing football versus wtf we’ve seen lately.  right now they just don’t have any talent.
We say this every year.  The bar is so low among fans, when really, there were certainly a few games in Miles' tenure where KU looked like they may have something.  2019 BC, 2019 Texas, 2019 Tech, 2019 Iowa State.  They were sorta competitive with coastal last year, almost beat tech.

KU so far this year beat South Dakota in a nailbiter and got blown out by coastal.  "Oh look at this progress!" 

Maybe Liepold gets them on track, maybe not, but i don't know how you can look at what they've done so far and walk away thinking it looks like anything other than what we've seen out of them since 2010.

This bean fella looks to be their best QB in the last decade.  His play alone makes me think they are improved.  It's a low bar for them, but I think he's a serviceable qb at this level.  And the eye test for me says they showed quite a bit of improvement from week 1 to week 2.
8-17 for 57 yards yesterday.

Did he get pulled?
Hard to tell whether he was “pulled” or just took him out because they were getting blown out, but yeah.  Daniels and Kendrick were the two QBs in the fourth quarter (in that order).
Title: Re: Is KU football still hurting?
Post by: Cire on September 26, 2021, 09:26:31 AM
Duke guy threw a text book pick six.

Except the quarterback ran down the corner from behind. Ku missed the field goal


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Post by: KST8FAN on September 26, 2021, 07:20:27 PM
Distracting myself from last night's game with a little sports-reference meets spreadsheet for KU.  Top 10 decades by winning pct for worst seasons overall and in conference.


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Post by: michigancat on September 26, 2021, 08:43:01 PM
Distracting myself from last night's game with a little sports-reference meets spreadsheet for KU.  Top 10 decades by winning pct for worst seasons overall and in conference.


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Wait what year did they win the orange bowl????
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Post by: nicname on September 26, 2021, 09:09:50 PM
Distracting myself from last night's game with a little sports-reference meets spreadsheet for KU.  Top 10 decades by winning pct for worst seasons overall and in conference.


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Wait what year did they win the orange bowl????

2008, but the 2007 season, which made this database!
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Post by: nicname on September 26, 2021, 09:11:47 PM
Imagine winning a conference game every other year for a decade.
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Post by: Spracne on September 26, 2021, 10:16:46 PM
Imagine winning a conference game every other year for a decade.

It's easy if you try
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Post by: MakeItRain on September 26, 2021, 10:21:10 PM
Distracting myself from last night's game with a little sports-reference meets spreadsheet for KU.  Top 10 decades by winning pct for worst seasons overall and in conference.


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Wait what year did they win the orange bowl????

2008, but the 2007 season, which made this database!

Win totals the next 5 years
8, 5, 3, 2, 1
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Post by: SkinnyBenny on September 27, 2021, 08:11:33 AM
It is a truly impressive feat to have your win percentage get steadily worse each decade for 90 years. Point shaving?
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Post by: steve dave on September 27, 2021, 08:18:47 AM
they looked pretty good first half against duke. and duke is a p5 team.
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Post by: _33 on September 27, 2021, 08:47:59 AM
In my opinion they are still hurting. fwiw.
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Post by: Katpappy on September 27, 2021, 02:47:29 PM
When they start beating us like they did with Prince's teams, then we know they turned the corner.
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Post by: michigancat on September 27, 2021, 03:42:45 PM
In my opinion they are still hurting. fwiw.

yeah I think you're right
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Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on October 02, 2021, 06:58:58 PM
YES
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Post by: Spracne on October 02, 2021, 07:00:37 PM
College football is such a head scratcher. Like, Iowa State jumps out to this big lead, even though KU is the better team with the better coach. It just doesn't make sense sometimes.
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Post by: pissclams on October 02, 2021, 07:26:40 PM
ku absolutely has better coaching/talent than iowa state- but football is a game of momentum and ku has really incredible momentum but it’s the bad kind of momentum
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Post by: Katpappy on October 02, 2021, 08:48:14 PM
Gawd, I don't know when I've seen sportscasters having such a good time. :Jammin': :Cheers:
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Post by: catastrophe on October 02, 2021, 09:56:41 PM
You can point to all the stats and whatnot, but you avoid a shutout against this ISU team and it’s as good as a win in my book. Congrats Hawks.