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General Discussion => The New Joe Montgomery Birther Pit => Topic started by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on March 19, 2017, 04:55:11 PM
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Ok RFPs have gone out for Wall prototypes. Let's get to work. Here are the requirements:
Each prototype will be 30 feet long and built in San Diego, according to the requests for proposals.
Beyond that, bidding contractors have much latitude in what kind of wall they propose.
Under the new timeline established in the documents, interested bidders will have two weeks to create and submit a design concept of what the border-wall prototype will look like, with two design options for companies.
One will be exclusively for "reinforced solid concrete" prototypes, while the second for "other" materials is more vague and does not specify the type of materials that can be used in the design.
Other requirements include:
• A "physically imposing" height [:lol: I love this presidency] of no less than 18 feet but preferably 30 feet tall.
• Anti-climbing mechanisms, either by ladder or other tools like hooks that humans may be able to get across.
• Prevent tunneling 6 feet below ground.
• For breaches to the wall (using building or cutting tools, or torches) to take at least one hour in concrete designs, and 30 minutes in the "other" designs.
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I'm most looking forward to the graffiti
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Should have an electric fence imo. Are they afraid of being liable for injury to citizens?
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Probably should be accepting RFPs to build roads to actually deliver the wall materials to the construction sites. That would have to be done first.
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You just start at the ocean and drive the border to the Gulf. No negative consequences
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Oh man, 6' down. That's really going to stop those tunnels!
http://www.businessinsider.com/inside-mexican-drug-cartel-narco-tunnels-on-the-us-border-2016-4/#the-sinaloa-cartel-later-had-another-tunnel-mastermind-jose-sanchez-villalobos-14
also
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKvAKROiwk4
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Oh wow, the wall that so many Dems vigorously supported in 2006.
Hell, Sen. Clinton used the occasion to repeatedly assail the Mexican government over their inability to control immigration and make a better life for their people.
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Pro tip on the RFP....have Big Bird help build it.
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Probably should be accepting RFPs to build roads to actually deliver the wall materials to the construction sites. That would have to be done first.
I'm sure the cost of a road is easily calculated.
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Oh man, 6' down. That's really going to stop those tunnels!
http://www.businessinsider.com/inside-mexican-drug-cartel-narco-tunnels-on-the-us-border-2016-4/#the-sinaloa-cartel-later-had-another-tunnel-mastermind-jose-sanchez-villalobos-14
also
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKvAKROiwk4
HA! good luck.
However, walls are a different story. When built tall enough and strong enough (although never 100% efficient) they are very discouraging. Nothing can prevent illegal immigration with a 100% effectiveness, but having to build a tunnel makes it much more cumbersome, expensive and riskier to cross the border. The funneling effect of the flow also makes it easier to intercep.
Drug lord Joaquin Guzman did escape from prison using an underground tunnel that was dug under his prison but several things are to be noted here. Many experts believe that the police and prison employees were aware that a tunnel was being dug given the fact that all the soil removed and traffic it generated should normally have caught someone's eye. This tunnel was only 1 mile long and costed millions of dollars. More importantly it took a year to dig.
Typically what happens is that US border patrols don't destroy cross-border tunnels as soon as they spot them. They wait until completion and just before the tunnel becomes effective it is destroyed. This is much more time consuming and expensive and demoralizing for the diggers. Huge amounts of drugs can be seized at once when the drugs arrive for the first time as well. A new cross-border tunnel then needs to be built costing millions of dollars again and years to build.
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Probably should be accepting RFPs to build roads to actually deliver the wall materials to the construction sites. That would have to be done first.
I'm sure the cost of a road is easily calculated.
It still has to be designed and built. More than half of the border has no road access.
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do you take super male vitality stunz?
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Oh man, 6' down. That's really going to stop those tunnels!
http://www.businessinsider.com/inside-mexican-drug-cartel-narco-tunnels-on-the-us-border-2016-4/#the-sinaloa-cartel-later-had-another-tunnel-mastermind-jose-sanchez-villalobos-14
What's bedrock in the mojave
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SHOVEL READY PROJECT
This thing is a keynsian libtard wet dream
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What an amazing idea! Each section(s) should be sponsored by a defunded liberal cause. I wonder how many panels Planned Parenthood will get?
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Do presidents get to unilaterally make a budget law? When did this happen?
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What's bedrock in the mojave
the mojave is 200 miles north.
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Spontaneous geography bee!!!!
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So many white people irrationally scared of brown people itt
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When do we invoice Mexico?
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What's bedrock in the mojave
the mojave is 200 miles north.
lol
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So many white people irrationally scared of brown people itt
I know, a whole list of white Dems really wanted that wall in 2006, and include the eventual Deporter-in-Chief in that mix as well.
Then they tried the insta-Democrat route and it all changed.
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The "defunded liberal causes" portion of the wall won't be as remotely long as the "dead baby boomers from lack of healthcare" portion of the wall.
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His very specific promise was that we won't pay for it you idiots.
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So many white people irrationally scared of brown people itt
I know, a whole list of white Dems really wanted that wall in 2006, and include the eventual Deporter-in-Chief in that mix as well.
Then they tried the insta-Democrat route and it all changed.
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Do you believe the stuff that you post or are you purposefully misleading?
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So many white people irrationally scared of brown people itt
I know, a whole list of white Dems really wanted that wall in 2006, and include the eventual Deporter-in-Chief in that mix as well.
Then they tried the insta-Democrat route and it all changed.
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Do you believe the stuff that you post or are you purposefully misleading?
So, Dems didn't vote for the Border Fence Act of 2006? Our previous Pres wasn't nicknamed the Deporter-in-Chief by illegals?
Interesting
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i can't tell if the dax/fsd/ksuw crew is not just gE'ing around itt
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If by gEing you mean pitting like Seal, then yes.
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Yes they are gEing
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So many white people irrationally scared of brown people itt
I know, a whole list of white Dems really wanted that wall in 2006, and include the eventual Deporter-in-Chief in that mix as well.
Then they tried the insta-Democrat route and it all changed.
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Do you believe the stuff that you post or are you purposefully misleading?
So, Dems didn't vote for the Border Fence Act of 2006? Our previous Pres wasn't nicknamed the Deporter-in-Chief by illegals?
Interesting
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At a time when there was a Republican House, Senate, and President, some Democrats voted for immigration reform that included a fence. Republicans had the votes to push whatever immigration reform they wanted through so some democrats compromised in an effort to prevent an alternative bill that made all illegals into felons.
To pretend that Obama and Hillary were just chomping at the bit for a fence is either ignorant or disingenuous.
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So many white people irrationally scared of brown people itt
I know, a whole list of white Dems really wanted that wall in 2006, and include the eventual Deporter-in-Chief in that mix as well.
Then they tried the insta-Democrat route and it all changed.
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Do you believe the stuff that you post or are you purposefully misleading?
So, Dems didn't vote for the Border Fence Act of 2006? Our previous Pres wasn't nicknamed the Deporter-in-Chief by illegals?
Interesting
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At a time when there was a Republican House, Senate, and President, some Democrats voted for immigration reform that included a fence. Republicans had the votes to push whatever immigration reform they wanted through so some democrats compromised in an effort to prevent an alternative bill that made all illegals into felons.
To pretend that Obama and Hillary were just chomping at the bit for a fence is either ignorant or disingenuous.
Then why did they vote for it, and why did Hillary repeatedly assail the Mexican government over immigration?
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So many white people irrationally scared of brown people itt
I know, a whole list of white Dems really wanted that wall in 2006, and include the eventual Deporter-in-Chief in that mix as well.
Then they tried the insta-Democrat route and it all changed.
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Do you believe the stuff that you post or are you purposefully misleading?
So, Dems didn't vote for the Border Fence Act of 2006? Our previous Pres wasn't nicknamed the Deporter-in-Chief by illegals?
Interesting
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At a time when there was a Republican House, Senate, and President, some Democrats voted for immigration reform that included a fence. Republicans had the votes to push whatever immigration reform they wanted through so some democrats compromised in an effort to prevent an alternative bill that made all illegals into felons.
To pretend that Obama and Hillary were just chomping at the bit for a fence is either ignorant or disingenuous.
Then why did they vote for it, and why did Hillary repeatedly assail the Mexican government over immigration?
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hey there was a time that a couple Dems voted for a wall
obvs this gives Pubs carte blanche in perpetuity
what dont you get
:dunno:
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Kinda like the pubs now have a blank check to do whatever they want. I get it now.
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patrolling the mojave almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter
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While you can try (and try you have) to disavow the political record of those you choose to promote further into offices of great power, the facts are the facts.
Your idols wanted a border wall (just like Biden, Kerry and Clinton wanted war in Iraq).
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so should we build it or not?
i say no (regardless of who is in office).
what say you?
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hey there was a time that a couple Dems voted for something
obvs this gives Pubs carte blanche in perpetuity
Fixed your post to reflect all of Dax's posts.
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I look forward to the day that dax opens up about his own beliefs and stands for something.
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hey there was a time that a couple Dems voted for something
obvs this gives Pubs carte blanche in perpetuity
Fixed your post to reflect all of Dax's posts.
good change
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So many white people irrationally scared of brown people itt
So many libtards irrationally afraid of an inanimate object itt.
Which is scarier, libtards, a wall or a gun?
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Yes, the resident libs do a great job of "standing for something" when their party isn't in power.
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Who actually opposes this wall, and why?
It's a shovel ready project with bipartisan support dating back over a decade and has a price tag of $0. It literally checks every libtard box for a fool proof government program.
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Who actually opposes this wall, and why?
It's a shovel ready project with bipartisan support dating back over a decade and has a price tag of $0. It literally checks every libtard box for a fool proof government program.
:lol:
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How does it cost $0. I've heard estimates ranging up to a trillion and that doesn't include a road.
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mexico is paying for it, zero cost to the united states
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No negative balances
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I hope we are going to get a decent return on our loan to Mexico. Donald had better not have us loaning them billions of dollars interest-free like chumps.
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mexico is paying for it, zero cost to the united states
Whoops. I forgot. Carry on wall builders! I can't wait to take a family vacation in 10 years to see the great wall of America.
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So, none of you actually oppose the wall, or at least don't know why you oppose it? :Wha:
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How does it cost $0. I've heard estimates ranging up to a trillion and that doesn't include a road.
Wut?
You can't honestly think it will cost a trillion? Like 1/3 of the wall already exists at a fraction of a percent of that cost.
You really don't think construction roads are built into the estimate? Well then, what about nails and lunch???? Add another trillion.
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How does it cost $0. I've heard estimates ranging up to a trillion and that doesn't include a road.
Wut?
You can't honestly think it will cost a trillion? Like 1/3 of the wall already exists at a fraction of a percent of that cost.
You really don't think construction roads are built into the estimate? Well then, what about nails and lunch???? Add another trillion.
The $10 billion estimate was only for concrete and nothing else, iirc. Land acquisition, road construction, labor, and delivery were not figured.
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How does it cost $0. I've heard estimates ranging up to a trillion and that doesn't include a road.
Wut?
You can't honestly think it will cost a trillion? Like 1/3 of the wall already exists at a fraction of a percent of that cost.
You really don't think construction roads are built into the estimate? Well then, what about nails and lunch???? Add another trillion.
What was Trump's line item in his budget for this? 0?
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So many white people irrationally scared of brown people itt
I know, a whole list of white Dems really wanted that wall in 2006, and include the eventual Deporter-in-Chief in that mix as well.
Then they tried the insta-Democrat route and it all changed.
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Do you believe the stuff that you post or are you purposefully misleading?
So, Dems didn't vote for the Border Fence Act of 2006? Our previous Pres wasn't nicknamed the Deporter-in-Chief by illegals?
Interesting
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Wasn't W-Wuda and the pubs in charge at that time or has history changed right before my eyes at goEMAW.
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How does it cost $0. I've heard estimates ranging up to a trillion and that doesn't include a road.
Wut?
You can't honestly think it will cost a trillion? Like 1/3 of the wall already exists at a fraction of a percent of that cost.
You really don't think construction roads are built into the estimate? Well then, what about nails and lunch???? Add another trillion.
What was Trump's line item in his budget for this? 0?
It includes a $2 billion down payment.
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I don't have any problem with a wall other than being a terrible use of resources and no real benefit. Maybe that's offset by the jobs program tho
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wall is stupid
i oppose it
this hasn't changed
your turn
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Weird, with all this outrage I assumed somebody that could actually articulate why opposed the wall. Guess not. #nevertrump is, afterall, a mental disorder.
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How does it cost $0. I've heard estimates ranging up to a trillion and that doesn't include a road.
Wut?
You can't honestly think it will cost a trillion? Like 1/3 of the wall already exists at a fraction of a percent of that cost.
You really don't think construction roads are built into the estimate? Well then, what about nails and lunch???? Add another trillion.
The $10 billion estimate was only for concrete and nothing else, iirc. Land acquisition, road construction, labor, and delivery were not figured.
Land acquisition? :lol: It's an improvement!
Who is pushing this "it doesn't account for the road" nonesense? John Oliver? Rachel Maddow?
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Yeah, I can see how a giant wall cutting off acres of my land so I can't use or even see it anymore would be considered an improvement. That should probably be free.
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Gigantic waste of money. But when Mexico writes us a check to balance us out, it's whatever.
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Hopefully the wall will have pass-throughs for the wildlife.
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Hopefully the wall will have pass-throughs for the wildlife.
I never even thought about the added benefit of keeping illegal Mexican snakes and reptiles out of our country too.
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Weird, with all this outrage I assumed somebody that could actually articulate why opposed the wall. Guess not. #nevertrump is, afterall, a mental disorder.
It's ineffective and a waste of US funds. It also irks an ally that gives us a nice natural security buffer.
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Yeah, I can see how a giant wall cutting off acres of my land so I can't use or even see it anymore would be considered an improvement. That should probably be free.
How would it cutoff their land? It's on the border of the US and Mexico.
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I measure my love for the wall conversely to liberals' irrational hatred for the wall, and it is OFF THE CHARTS. :woot:
I think my favorite response so far is how the wall is going to "stop people from being able to use their land" and how it's going to make that land less valuable by keeping the narcos and coyotes out. Give me MOAR!!
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I measure my love for the wall conversely to liberals' irrational hatred for the wall, and it is OFF THE CHARTS.
This is why you voted for him
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Yeah, I can see how a giant wall cutting off acres of my land so I can't use or even see it anymore would be considered an improvement. That should probably be free.
How would it cutoff their land? It's on the border of the US and Mexico.
I'm sure there are some doglegs in there somewhere FSD. The liberals will find them. I'm sure the liberals are also scrambling to buy up whatever border land they can just to be a pain in the ass. If you've got border land, the markets looking up!!
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I measure my love for the wall conversely to liberals' irrational hatred for the wall, and it is OFF THE CHARTS.
This is why you voted for him
Nah. I voted for him because he was preferable to putting the dispicably corrupt and liberal Clinton's back in charge. The liberal hysteria is just the cherry on top. Huge cherry.
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Weird, with all this outrage I assumed somebody that could actually articulate why opposed the wall. Guess not. #nevertrump is, afterall, a mental disorder.
It's ineffective and a waste of US funds. It also irks an ally that gives us a nice natural security buffer.
How it ineffective, it's a wall?
How is something free a waste of funds?
Lol at the last comment. Does the Mexican government even control those lands, or does el chapo? Security, pfft
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Yeah, I can see how a giant wall cutting off acres of my land so I can't use or even see it anymore would be considered an improvement. That should probably be free.
How would it cutoff their land? It's on the border of the US and Mexico.
I'm sure there are some doglegs in there somewhere FSD. The liberals will find them. I'm sure the liberals are also scrambling to buy up whatever border land they can just to be a pain in the ass. If you've got border land, the markets looking up!!
They hate it bc their masters told them to hate it bc racism. These people have zero cognitive ability.
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I measure my love for the wall conversely to liberals' irrational hatred for the wall, and it is OFF THE CHARTS.
This is why you voted for him
Nah. I voted for him because he was preferable to putting the dispicably corrupt and liberal Clinton's back in charge. The liberal hysteria is just the cherry on top. Huge cherry.
yeah luckily we don't have a corrupt white house...whew...dodged a bullet there.
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Weird, with all this outrage I assumed somebody that could actually articulate why opposed the wall. Guess not. #nevertrump is, afterall, a mental disorder.
It's ineffective and a waste of US funds. It also irks an ally that gives us a nice natural security buffer.
How it ineffective, it's a wall?
How is something free a waste of funds?
Lol at the last comment. Does the Mexican government even control those lands, or does el chapo? Security, pfft
it is ineffective as it won't stop anybody....just like the walls we have no don't.
$2.6B isn't free.
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FSD going full on trump supporter is a non-shocking development that I love and support.
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FSD going full on trump supporter is a non-shocking development that I love and support.
And thinks the wall is free lol
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Yeah, whatever he believes I support it for the community
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How does it cost $0. I've heard estimates ranging up to a trillion and that doesn't include a road.
Wut?
You can't honestly think it will cost a trillion? Like 1/3 of the wall already exists at a fraction of a percent of that cost.
You really don't think construction roads are built into the estimate? Well then, what about nails and lunch???? Add another trillion.
No I don't. I'm going to sit back and watch it approach 1 trillion. We can reconvene then.
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FSD going full on trump supporter is a non-shocking development that I love and support.
And thinks the wall is free lol
Also thinks the wall is getting built on the center of the Rio Grande, apparently.
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I measure my love for the wall conversely to liberals' irrational hatred for the wall, and it is OFF THE CHARTS. :woot:
I think my favorite response so far is how the wall is going to "stop people from being able to use their land" and how it's going to make that land less valuable by keeping the narcos and coyotes out. Give me MOAR!!
It won't be their land anymore, KSU. The federal government will have to condemn it. You can't possibly be this stupid. Don't you at least know anyone who owns land near a highway or something?
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magnificent wall easement
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Weird, with all this outrage I assumed somebody that could actually articulate why opposed the wall. Guess not. #nevertrump is, afterall, a mental disorder.
It's ineffective and a waste of US funds. It also irks an ally that gives us a nice natural security buffer.
How it ineffective, it's a wall?
How is something free a waste of funds?
Lol at the last comment. Does the Mexican government even control those lands, or does el chapo? Security, pfft
it is ineffective as it won't stop anybody....just like the walls we have no don't.
$2.6B isn't free.
What kind of a crazy bad person would argue a wall isn't a effective deterrent to entry by unauthorized intrusion???
:lol:
Over the course of millenia humans have foolishly constructed trillions of miles of fences and walls to no practical end, next on NOVA.
:lol:
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FSD going full on trump supporter is a non-shocking development that I love and support.
And thinks the wall is free lol
Also thinks the wall is getting built on the center of the Rio Grande, apparently.
^^^
From the guy who thinks it's going criss cross people's property for some unknown reason :lol:
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In a shocking turn of events, the libtards scramble to deflect attention from there relentless stupidity. :surprised:
Their masters have left them hopelessly ill equipped. :cry:
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free or not who cares, pays for itself
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FSD going full on trump supporter is a non-shocking development that I love and support.
And thinks the wall is free lol
I'm sorry hillary lost, you folks will get over it in time, maybe, probably not.
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The wall is too expensive. Land mines. That would be a true deterrent.
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Politics based on spite. Kinda funny how sad FSD and KSUW have become.
A couple years from now: "We should nuke our own country cause the liberals will rage! Great times!"
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I just can't believe the obama admin was condemning land for this super racist wall back in 2012
http://www.theblaze.com/news/2012/10/15/landowners-along-u-s-mexico-border-claim-govt-is-abusing-its-power-to-take-land-at-unfair-prices/
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Politics based on spite. Kinda funny how sad FSD and KSUW have become.
A couple years from now: "We should nuke our own country cause the liberals will rage! Great times!"
It's a rough ridin' wall, abe. Chillax. You'd think they were proposing a natural gas pipeline for Christ's sake. :lol:
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I just can't believe the obama admin was condemning land for this super racist wall back in 2012
http://www.theblaze.com/news/2012/10/15/landowners-along-u-s-mexico-border-claim-govt-is-abusing-its-power-to-take-land-at-unfair-prices/
Nice to know Trump has figured out a way to not have to do that.
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He's enraged
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:lol:
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FSD had some good posts in there. I laughed a lot.
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Will Mexico give us one of those oversized checks like when someone wins the lottery? Or more low key like a briefcase full of hundos?
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I measure my love for the wall conversely to liberals' irrational hatred for the wall, and it is OFF THE CHARTS. :woot:
I think my favorite response so far is how the wall is going to "stop people from being able to use their land" and how it's going to make that land less valuable by keeping the narcos and coyotes out. Give me MOAR!!
It won't be their land anymore, KSU. The federal government will have to condemn it. You can't possibly be this stupid. Don't you at least know anyone who owns land near a highway or something?
I used to do pipeline easement condemnation work so yeah, I know exactly how it works. Thanks. The ranchers will be paid for the land they lose to the wall itself plus even more for an easement that won't meaningfully restrict their usage. The vast majority of the landowners will be thrilled to get the money and protection. Stop your hysterical bitch-whining.
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Will Mexico give us one of those oversized checks like when someone wins the lottery? Or more low key like a briefcase full of hundos?
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Oh I hope it's a briefcase. A cheap one.
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I measure my love for the wall conversely to liberals' irrational hatred for the wall, and it is OFF THE CHARTS. :woot:
I think my favorite response so far is how the wall is going to "stop people from being able to use their land" and how it's going to make that land less valuable by keeping the narcos and coyotes out. Give me MOAR!!
It won't be their land anymore, KSU. The federal government will have to condemn it. You can't possibly be this stupid. Don't you at least know anyone who owns land near a highway or something?
I used to do pipeline easement condemnation work so yeah, I know exactly how it works. Thanks. The ranchers will be paid for the land they lose to the wall itself plus even more for an easement that won't meaningfully restrict their usage. The vast majority of the landowners will be thrilled to get the money and protection. Stop your hysterical bitch-whining.
Probably would be a good idea to budget for that, huh?
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It's kind of sad how ignorant even the "informed" conservatives are about the process
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The libtards (^^^) are apparently completely unaware the u.s. has heen building this wall for decades. They also seem clueless as to how much a 30' wide strip of ranch land on the narco drug trafficking war front is worth.
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Not building it fast or big enough right FSD?
How about we deal with the WHY these people are wanting to illegally come into the US. Seems to be two reasons....One for a better life and to work....I don't necessarily care that these people come into the US as that's why my ancestors came here...but we need to give them the proper processes to come in legally.
Second is to run drugs. I don't like these people but building a wall won't stop that, only stop one method...Only way to stop that is to deal with the demand that we have in this country for illegal drugs.
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When you have a border free-for-all, which is apparently what most libs want. You're giving very bad people access to more money, more power and allowing them to make their native lands more dangerous for normal law abiding people, with the local and national governments ceding more and more power to the bad people and many cases allowing the bad people to corrupt and co-mingle with the government making things even worse for normal everyday native populations. In many cases turning vast swaths of geography into join/comply or die enclaves. Thus causing people to flee and in most cases with operatives of the bad people embedded and subsequently creating more problems.
But hey, whatever, the road to the Banana Republic is filled with adventure.
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"Back in the good old days when 'merica didn't have any immigration laws and my ancestors waltzed on in" is a hilariously naive and ignorant libtard talking point.
Even more so than the, "if drugs were legal, the cartels would disappear for lack of anything to do".
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It's pure luck you were born here dax....But yes everyone trying to get into the US are just bad people...Not like the wholesome people that are US citizens....Who are actually causing all the problems....But keep pushing that fear tactic devoid of fact.
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"Back in the good old days when 'merica didn't have any immigration laws and my ancestors waltzed on in" is a hilariously naive and ignorant libtard talking point.
Even more so than the, "if drugs were legal, the cartels would disappear for lack of anything to do".
The point is fix the actual problems, not build a wall to give you goobers a false sense of security....Which does nothing but cost money.
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"Back in the good old days when 'merica didn't have any immigration laws and my ancestors waltzed on in" is a hilariously naive and ignorant libtard talking point.
Even more so than the, "if drugs were legal, the cartels would disappear for lack of anything to do".
The point is fix the actual problems, not build a wall to give you goobers a false sense of security....Which does nothing but cost money.
The road to fixing the problem begins with controlling the border. This is not hard.
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Politics based on spite. Kinda funny how sad FSD and KSUW have become.
A couple years from now: "We should nuke our own country cause the liberals will rage! Great times!"
It's a rough ridin' wall, abe. Chillax. You'd think they were proposing a natural gas pipeline for Christ's sake. :lol:
IDGAF about the wall, because it will fail on it's own and be very :lol: when it changes nothing. It only took 38 years for people to tear down the Berlin wall and :billdance: on top of it.
What I care about is that fewer and fewer "conservatives" aren't forming their political opinion based on facts. It's all about using the cult mentality to spite whomever you deem "libtards" (like how Tomi Lahren is all of a sudden a libtard) and making irrational demands based on your "feelings" and emotions. Moderate and partisan ideas automatically go against the cult and Trumpians can't budge on a single position no matter how stupid it is or how it will harm everyone including themselves.
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Oh boy, here comes the idiotic Berlin Wall analogies.
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"Back in the good old days when 'merica didn't have any immigration laws and my ancestors waltzed on in" is a hilariously naive and ignorant libtard talking point.
Even more so than the, "if drugs were legal, the cartels would disappear for lack of anything to do".
The point is fix the actual problems, not build a wall to give you goobers a false sense of security....Which does nothing but cost money.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the problem the wall intends to fix is the illegal entry of people from across the border. Seems to be a spot on approach.
Fixing the immigration process may very well deter a small few people from crossing illegally in hope of legit entry, but I'm pretty sure our immigration policy isn't to let in as many hopelessly poor people as possible (eg, nearly all the illegal border traffic--wall gets most of these people). We have a surplus in that department already, and it's a very expensive problem we already can't afford.
Illegal drugs are a whole another issue with many layers, one of which the wall addresses(human transport of narcotics).
There are literally mass graves on the border, and the narcos engage in slavery and human trafficking. To this day, I cant believe we've been largely ignoring this problem.
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The 700 miles of existing wall enjoyed decades of bipartisan support. Now trump wants to finish and improve it and the libtards are calling it racist and comparing it to the berlin wall, and telling everyone who disagrees how unreasonable they are being.
You cannot make this stuff up folks. It's an alternate reality.
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Oh boy, here comes the idiotic Berlin Wall analogies.
https://www.twitter.com/monicacrowley/status/651043858541879296
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So weird, not a peep from the resident intolerant left when the previous administration was deporting hundreds of thousands of illegals.
Could they possibly be more hyper-partisan? No, no they couldn't.
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Oh boy, here comes the idiotic Berlin Wall analogies.
https://www.twitter.com/monicacrowley/status/651043858541879296
LOL, they'll be hundreds of thousands of people who pass through the wall that will be built every day with a modicum of inconvenience at most, with the majority of that simply waiting in line. There are so many differences, there's simply not the time to even list them all here.
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Just remember it's your idols like Monica Crowley (BFFs with your other idol Hannity) that started the Berlin wall comparisons
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Oh boy, here comes the idiotic Berlin Wall analogies.
https://www.twitter.com/monicacrowley/status/651043858541879296
LOL, they'll be hundreds of thousands of people who pass through the wall that will be built every day with a modicum of inconvenience at most, with the majority of that simply waiting in line. There are so many differences, there's simply not the time to even list them all here.
I think that is why people are saying the wall won't work, dax.
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Just remember it's your idols like Monica Crowley (BFFs with your other idol Hannity) that started the Berlin wall comparisons
Who is Monica Crowley?
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Oh boy, here comes the idiotic Berlin Wall analogies.
https://www.twitter.com/monicacrowley/status/651043858541879296
LOL, they'll be hundreds of thousands of people who pass through the wall that will be built every day with a modicum of inconvenience at most, with the majority of that simply waiting in line. There are so many differences, there's simply not the time to even list them all here.
I think that is why people are saying the wall won't work, dax.
Weird then, why were so many Dems running to point out the need for a de facto electronic Wall on the border? If walls don't work?
You're comparing an inner border wall dividing a city that was occupied by an indigenous citizenry to a wall dividing two separate nations that were defined nearly 200 years ago. Stupid on every level.
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This is the first I've heard of a de facto electronic wall, so there probably aren't that many people, dem or pub, pointing out the need for one.
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This is the first I've heard of a de factor electronic wall, so there probably aren't that many people, dem or pub, pointing out the need for one.
Maybe in 1956? :dunno:
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"Back in the good old days when 'merica didn't have any immigration laws and my ancestors waltzed on in" is a hilariously naive and ignorant libtard talking point.
Even more so than the, "if drugs were legal, the cartels would disappear for lack of anything to do".
The point is fix the actual problems, not build a wall to give you goobers a false sense of security....Which does nothing but cost money.
The road to fixing the problem begins with controlling the border. This is not hard.
The wall won't control jack....Just like the current walls don't and have tunnels (with rail lines) going right under them.
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IBM :curse:
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https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-02-27/democrats-should-back-a-digital-border-wall
“better fences and better security along our borders . . . help stem some of the tide of illegal immigration in this country". Sen. Barrack Obama 2006
“I voted numerous times when I was a senator to spend money to build a barrier to try to prevent illegal immigrants from coming in, and I do think you have to control the Borders." Presidential Candidate Hillary Clinton
http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-19409682
Get out more fellas, try something other than Vox or Salon for a change.
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Damn that Obama for wasting $20+ billion on a wall that didn't work. Oh wait....
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Damn that Obama for wasting $20+ billion on a wall that didn't work. Oh wait....
What wall? Oh, the incomplete wall. Yeah, those never work.
Why do you want wide open borders Abe? In your explanation, give me some ideas of what we should rename the region of the world formerly known as the United States of America? Wait . . . FUSOFA? Since this will likely lead to regionalism, what will the various regions of the newly Balkanized FUSOFA land be called? Help me with some names. Will each region have a border fence?
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actually i have a great idea. why not make the border wall a game? have it become an obstacle course that challenges their physical strength and intelligence. think american gladiator meets japanese game show. and just to make sure not too many get in, the final round is who wants to be a millionaire (all the questions are in english, must win the game). and for the women - beauty pageant, run by trump.
imagine the money that would be generated if this was televised, plus those that make it across would definitely deserve it, even rednecks would think so.
sigh, one can dream.
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We already had that thread dax
(http://imgur.com/pNT6ngk.jpg)
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https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-02-27/democrats-should-back-a-digital-border-wall
“better fences and better security along our borders . . . help stem some of the tide of illegal immigration in this country". Sen. Barrack Obama 2006
“I voted numerous times when I was a senator to spend money to build a barrier to try to prevent illegal immigrants from coming in, and I do think you have to control the Borders." Presidential Candidate Hillary Clinton
http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-19409682
Get out more fellas, try something other than Vox or Salon for a change.
They were dumb too and placating to voters...
How much did they spend on a wall? More than DJT is proposing?
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We already had that thread dax
(http://imgur.com/pNT6ngk.jpg)
So what.
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Guys, wouldn't it be easier and cheaper to put up a hologram of a wall? It's not like a real wall is going to stop any more people then a hologram one would.
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https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-02-27/democrats-should-back-a-digital-border-wall
“better fences and better security along our borders . . . help stem some of the tide of illegal immigration in this country". Sen. Barrack Obama 2006
“I voted numerous times when I was a senator to spend money to build a barrier to try to prevent illegal immigrants from coming in, and I do think you have to control the Borders." Presidential Candidate Hillary Clinton
http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-19409682
Get out more fellas, try something other than Vox or Salon for a change.
They were dumb too and placating to voters...
How much did they spend on a wall? More than DJT is proposing?
Didn't see much talk about how dumb they were when they were all for a wall.
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Guys, wouldn't it be easier and cheaper to put up a hologram of a wall? It's not like a real wall is going to stop any more people then a hologram one would.
You can't spray graffiti on a hologram.
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question to those that say the wall won't work, are you for or against illegal immigration?
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for it
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Don't really care
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question to those that say the wall won't work, are you for or against illegal immigration?
I can understand the need to control as it puts a strain on infrastructure and resources but on the other side of the coin I didn't do anything to become American and enjoy the benefits I receive of being American so to want to close up all the borders and not let any other human get those same benefits seems extremely dickish
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Damn that Obama for wasting $20+ billion on a wall that didn't work. Oh wait....
What wall? Oh, the incomplete wall. Yeah, those never work.
Why do you want wide open borders Abe? In your explanation, give me some ideas of what we should rename the region of the world formerly known as the United States of America? Wait . . . FUSOFA? Since this will likely lead to regionalism, what will the various regions of the newly Balkanized FUSOFA land be called? Help me with some names. Will each region have a border fence?
Did I say wide open borders? I think deportations have to occur when the person is worthy of deportation. That's not a wide open border. Maybe physically, yeah there are some spots that are "wide open". Every country has them. But do you snowflakes really need a $20+ billion security blanket to protect you from the monsters under your bed?
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https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-02-27/democrats-should-back-a-digital-border-wall
“better fences and better security along our borders . . . help stem some of the tide of illegal immigration in this country". Sen. Barrack Obama 2006
“I voted numerous times when I was a senator to spend money to build a barrier to try to prevent illegal immigrants from coming in, and I do think you have to control the Borders." Presidential Candidate Hillary Clinton
http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-19409682
Get out more fellas, try something other than Vox or Salon for a change.
They were dumb too and placating to voters...
How much did they spend on a wall? More than DJT is proposing?
Didn't see much talk about how dumb they were when they were all for a wall.
What was the amount of money spent on said wall during their reign? Maybe that's why not much talk about it.
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I have known a number of illegal immigrants and each of them is a better person than 90% of Americans I have come in contact with. I have no idea why you would want to remove quality people from our country, but a lot of people are irrationally afraid of non-whites I guess.
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https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-02-27/democrats-should-back-a-digital-border-wall
“better fences and better security along our borders . . . help stem some of the tide of illegal immigration in this country". Sen. Barrack Obama 2006
“I voted numerous times when I was a senator to spend money to build a barrier to try to prevent illegal immigrants from coming in, and I do think you have to control the Borders." Presidential Candidate Hillary Clinton
http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-19409682
Get out more fellas, try something other than Vox or Salon for a change.
They were dumb too and placating to voters...
How much did they spend on a wall? More than DJT is proposing?
Didn't see much talk about how dumb they were when they were all for a wall.
What was the amount of money spent on said wall during their reign? Maybe that's why not much talk about it.
I don't know?
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i didn't ask why you guys were for or against it.
but it's like, say you give a little girl cancer on purpose, and you want her to die. the doctor her to die, and he would suggest cancer treatments. but since you do want her to die, you would try and convince the girl and her parents "the treatments are bullshit, death is inevitable" etc.
that little girl is the united states of america. you guys being the ones who want the little girl to die, are completely full of crap when it comes to the wall thing.
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I can't wait until we build the northern wall and make Canada pay for it
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I have known a number of illegal immigrants and each of them is a better person than 90% of Americans I have come in contact with. I have no idea why you would want to remove quality people from our country, but a lot of people are irrationally afraid of non-whites I guess.
You'll get no argument from me that most white midwesterners simply couldn't handle the diversity and integration of other parts of the country.
But controlling the borders is not anti-immigration, no matter how much you try and say that it is.
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i didn't ask why you guys were for or against it.
but it's like, say you give a little girl cancer on purpose, and you want her to die. the doctor her to die, and he would suggest cancer treatments. but since you do want her to die, you would try and convince the girl and her parents "the treatments are bullshit, death is inevitable" etc.
that little girl is the united states of america. you guys being the ones who want the little girl to die, are completely full of crap when it comes to the wall thing.
Hadn't considered it like that
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I have known a number of illegal immigrants and each of them is a better person than 90% of Americans I have come in contact with. I have no idea why you would want to remove quality people from our country, but a lot of people are irrationally afraid of non-whites I guess.
You'll get no argument from me that most white midwesterners simply couldn't handle the diversity and integration of other parts of the country.
But controlling the borders is not anti-immigration, no matter how much you try and say that it is.
Wait...Doesn't dax live in one of those States still fighting to fly the stars and bars?
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I have known a number of illegal immigrants and each of them is a better person than 90% of Americans I have come in contact with. I have no idea why you would want to remove quality people from our country, but a lot of people are irrationally afraid of non-whites I guess.
You'll get no argument from me that most white midwesterners simply couldn't handle the diversity and integration of other parts of the country.
But controlling the borders is not anti-immigration, no matter how much you try and say that it is.
Wait...Doesn't dax live in one of those States still fighting to fly the stars and bars?
LOL, don't you live in a state where a bunch of guys just tried to blow up an apartment complex because of all them there Somalians (or North African Immigrants of various nationalities)?
I've spent substantial parts of 30 plus years living in the midwest. The racial dividing lines are as well defined there as anywhere I've lived in this country, by far.
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No I do not...Hey I'm not disagreeing that typical white Midwestern is scared of brown people but pot meet kettle...Damn.
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Those are your voting buddies dax! :cheers: (dax and racist midwesterners clincking glasses and agreeing on everything)
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I have known a number of illegal immigrants and each of them is a better person than 90% of Americans I have come in contact with. I have no idea why you would want to remove quality people from our country, but a lot of people are irrationally afraid of non-whites I guess.
You'll get no argument from me that most white midwesterners simply couldn't handle the diversity and integration of other parts of the country.
But controlling the borders is not anti-immigration, no matter how much you try and say that it is.
Btw this wall will do little to control borders. Examples of walls not working already provided. Maybe argue this will out the coal miners to work....
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Those are your voting buddies dax! :cheers: (dax and racist midwesterners clincking glasses and agreeing on everything)
Not really, but then again, you paint all disagreement with your beliefs with a broad brush. Extremely unintelligent and sad.
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I have known a number of illegal immigrants and each of them is a better person than 90% of Americans I have come in contact with. I have no idea why you would want to remove quality people from our country, but a lot of people are irrationally afraid of non-whites I guess.
You'll get no argument from me that most white midwesterners simply couldn't handle the diversity and integration of other parts of the country.
But controlling the borders is not anti-immigration, no matter how much you try and say that it is.
Btw this wall will do little to control borders. Examples of walls not working already provided. Maybe argue this will out the coal miners to work....
The Berlin Wall is your example? :lol:
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Dax I was just agreeing with your broad brush racist midwesterners statement
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I think there is a pretty big difference between the current walls we already have that are located near urban areas and the proposed wall that blocks off a 50 mile hike through the desert. At least from a cost-effectiveness standpoint, there is.
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Dax I was just agreeing with your broad brush racist midwesterners statement
Nope. Try again.
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Don't care about the wall but do not want to pay for it.
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Ok dax lol
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I have known a number of illegal immigrants and each of them is a better person than 90% of Americans I have come in contact with. I have no idea why you would want to remove quality people from our country, but a lot of people are irrationally afraid of non-whites I guess.
You'll get no argument from me that most white midwesterners simply couldn't handle the diversity and integration of other parts of the country.
But controlling the borders is not anti-immigration, no matter how much you try and say that it is.
Btw this wall will do little to control borders. Examples of walls not working already provided. Maybe argue this will out the coal miners to work....
The Berlin Wall is your example? :lol:
Nope.
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I have known a number of illegal immigrants and each of them is a better person than 90% of Americans I have come in contact with. I have no idea why you would want to remove quality people from our country, but a lot of people are irrationally afraid of non-whites I guess.
You'll get no argument from me that most white midwesterners simply couldn't handle the diversity and integration of other parts of the country.
But controlling the borders is not anti-immigration, no matter how much you try and say that it is.
Btw this wall will do little to control borders. Examples of walls not working already provided. Maybe argue this will out the coal miners to work....
The Berlin Wall is your example? :lol:
Nope.
Then what are the examples? Before you post them, please post examples from countries with the technical prowess, GDP and budgetary capabilities of the United States in relative terms. Oh, and the political will to protect the borders.
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Our current southern border walls are scaled and tunnels dug under them regularly
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Our current southern border walls are scaled and tunnels dug under them regularly
Incomplete wall, underfunded border patrol and lack of political will.
Any other examples?
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Where are we going to find the political will, dax? I mean, sure, Trump will waste money on border patrol, but after that, I doubt this wall gets maintained or monitored.
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Will Mexico be paying for the patrol, also? Or will the patrol be working for free? (America!)
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Wasn't there already some ya'llqueda vigilante group patrolling and vowing to shoot any messican they see?
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david clarke will be tasked with forming a well-armed "red rover" line from gulf to gulf
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Where are we going to find the political will, dax? I mean, sure, Trump will waste money on border patrol, but after that, I doubt this wall gets maintained or monitored.
Then there's political will to purposely not control the borders. Why wouldn't our countries leaders not want to control the borders of our country?
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Wasn't there already some ya'llqueda vigilante group patrolling and vowing to shoot any messican they see?
Saw a pretty scary Vice episode about these very (to steal Dax's term) Wackadoos.
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Wasn't there already some ya'llqueda vigilante group patrolling and vowing to shoot any messican they see?
all those mexican words sound like "dildo", honest mistake
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Where are we going to find the political will, dax? I mean, sure, Trump will waste money on border patrol, but after that, I doubt this wall gets maintained or monitored.
Then there's political will to purposely not control the borders. Why wouldn't our countries leaders not want to control the borders of our country?
The problems are exaggerated and the costs to fix them are great.
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Probably should be accepting RFPs to build roads to actually deliver the wall materials to the construction sites. That would have to be done first.
I'm sure the cost of a road is easily calculated.
It still has to be designed and built. More than half of the border has no road access.
So? The first focus should be on the greatest uncertainty. Also, how can they generate specs for roads until they know what materials must be hauled on them?
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It probably doesn't matter, trucks can only carry so much, and you aren't sending half full trucks
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Exaggerations? This will be hard reading for most of you, so I expect plenty of TLDNR (sad):
https://www.armed-services.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/Tidd_03-10-16.pdf
http://images.huffingtonpost.com/2014-04-21-SouthcomThreatsMatrix2-thumb.gif
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revenue oppy: turn all the wall proposal mockups into a climbing park
my wall proposal is self replicating nanobots that consume the flesh and bone of illegal border crossers to craft a carbon nanotube barrier. THATS how the Mexicans pay for it.
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Our current southern border walls are scaled and tunnels dug under them regularly
Incomplete wall, underfunded border patrol and lack of political will.
Any other examples?
incomplete wall...still scaled and buried under vs. walk around it....complete wall doesn't stop that. Whatever makes you fear mongers feel better though. Sure a Trump buddy will make a mint of the contract.
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Our current southern border walls are scaled and tunnels dug under them regularly
Incomplete wall, underfunded border patrol and lack of political will.
Any other examples?
incomplete wall...still scaled and buried under vs. walk around it....complete wall doesn't stop that. Whatever makes you fear mongers feel better though. Sure a Trump buddy will make a mint of the contract.
Weird, just thinking of Dem hero LBJ, the offspring of Brown and Root aka Halliburton, but I digress.
Just seems weird that people who would rather be engaged in the common defense, would engage so deeply in the nefarious and cryptic world of Narco-Terrorist and similar vermin, just for the sake of "fear mongering".
Also weird that Dems suddenly feel so "inspired" about this after 8 years of exponential growth of the paranoid deep state by their idol.
Oh well, admitting you were duped is hard.
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Exaggerations? This will be hard reading for most of you, so I expect plenty of TLDNR (sad):
https://www.armed-services.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/Tidd_03-10-16.pdf
http://images.huffingtonpost.com/2014-04-21-SouthcomThreatsMatrix2-thumb.gif
"As we face an increasingly complex, interconnected security environment, we must look beyond borders and boundaries and seek not just whole-of government, but whole-of-hemisphere solutions to our shared challenges."
Sounds like we need a hemisphere border wall dax.
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Exaggerations? This will be hard reading for most of you, so I expect plenty of TLDNR (sad):
https://www.armed-services.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/Tidd_03-10-16.pdf
http://images.huffingtonpost.com/2014-04-21-SouthcomThreatsMatrix2-thumb.gif
"As we face an increasingly complex, interconnected security environment, we must look beyond borders and boundaries and seek not just whole-of government, but whole-of-hemisphere solutions to our shared challenges."
Sounds like we need a hemisphere border wall dax.
Oh gosh, look at Phil glomming all over a toss away. Sad.
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Our current southern border walls are scaled and tunnels dug under them regularly
Incomplete wall, underfunded border patrol and lack of political will.
Any other examples?
incomplete wall...still scaled and buried under vs. walk around it....complete wall doesn't stop that. Whatever makes you fear mongers feel better though. Sure a Trump buddy will make a mint of the contract.
Weird, just thinking of Dem hero LBJ, the offspring of Brown and Root aka Halliburton, but digress.
Just seems weird that people who would rather be engaged in the common defense, would engage so deeply in the nefarious and cryptic world of Narco-Terrorist and similar vermin, just for the sake of "fear mongering".
Also weird that Dems suddenly feel so "inspired" about this after 8 years of exponential growth of the paranoid deep state by their idol.
Oh well, admitting you were duped is hard.
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We don't expect you to admit it in the first 59 days in office
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Sad, watching Frontline and the outcome of the power vacuum created in Syria and Iraq by the horrible policies of the Obama administration. Those poor people.
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Our current southern border walls are scaled and tunnels dug under them regularly
Incomplete wall, underfunded border patrol and lack of political will.
Any other examples?
incomplete wall...still scaled and buried under vs. walk around it....complete wall doesn't stop that. Whatever makes you fear mongers feel better though. Sure a Trump buddy will make a mint of the contract.
Weird, just thinking of Dem hero LBJ, the offspring of Brown and Root aka Halliburton, but digress.
Just seems weird that people who would rather be engaged in the common defense, would engage so deeply in the nefarious and cryptic world of Narco-Terrorist and similar vermin, just for the sake of "fear mongering".
Also weird that Dems suddenly feel so "inspired" about this after 8 years of exponential growth of the paranoid deep state by their idol.
Oh well, admitting you were duped is hard.
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We don't expect you to admit it in the first 59 days in office
You guys won't admit it after 8 years.
Sad
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or we could just make employers check ids. either way.
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Our current southern border walls are scaled and tunnels dug under them regularly
i already debunked this. i also debunked any credibility anyone against the wall has.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/03/20/maryland-girl-allegedly-raped-in-high-school-bathroom-by-two-teens-at-least-one-here-illegally.html
BUILD THE WALL
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Women are raped in this country at a stupid rate by citizens. What's your point? Bad people come in all races
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whites and hispanics are conveniently grouped in statistics, but there's this:
http://www.illegalaliencrimereport.com/category/rape/
in the last 10 days, 10 reports, all underage girls.
look how friendly they are though
(http://www.illegalaliencrimereport.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/3DE4037000000578-4276336-image-a-48_1488485760210.jpg)
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Landmines. They won't scale them. I suppose they could get mine clearing volunteers. Probay too cruel to fly. Electric fence? Moat? How about no benefits for illegals, or death penalties for people who hire them. Deport parents. We have the right to control who can be here.
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Probably should be accepting RFPs to build roads to actually deliver the wall materials to the construction sites. That would have to be done first.
I'm sure the cost of a road is easily calculated.
It still has to be designed and built. More than half of the border has no road access.
So? The first focus should be on the greatest uncertainty. Also, how can they generate specs for roads until they know what materials must be hauled on them?
eff roads just air lift everything. Mexico is picking up the tab so, eff it.
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A significant portion probably will have to be set by helicopter
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It's pure luck you were born here dax....But yes everyone trying to get into the US are just bad people...Not like the wholesome people that are US citizens....Who are actually causing all the problems....But keep pushing that fear tactic devoid of fact.
Winner
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Tits is kind of naive Dax. The people who are entering the US illegally are poor. They come here and most likely live in poor neighborhoods - ghettos, barrios, or western Kansas towns. The vast majority of the poor are great folk, but poverty does cause a rise in crime. So us Wallers With Wallies WWW just don't want more people coming in to cause problems. You don't plant more weeds in your garden when you fight constantly to remove them. The US ain't some momma hog with an infinite number of tits to feed all of the poor and tired piglets of the world.
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It's pure luck you were born here dax....But yes everyone trying to get into the US are just bad people...Not like the wholesome people that are US citizens....Who are actually causing all the problems....But keep pushing that fear tactic devoid of fact.
Fascinating, I hadn't read anywhere that immigration to the United States was going to be shut down once a Southern Border wall was built. Do you have a link?
Also extremely weird that we deport thousands of criminal aliens (many of who commit crimes in the United States, and crimes by illegals are massively under reported) but it's only U.S. citizens "causing all the problems".
Golly, why are those idiots running our Military and DHS (that lefties cling to every word they say when it fits the lib agenda, but disavow them the next minute for being big bullies and scare mongers) always talking about Narco-Terrorists in those silly reports to Congress? Why do they refer to them as "International Criminal Enterprises"?
Just admit that you're happy to keep the human/sex traffickers, the Narco Gangs (who are taking over parts of cities in the United States) and all matter of really bad people flying (dare I say) high on a wide open border.
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The "you can't help where you're from" argument is childish and obtuse. It's not even thought provoking at a philosophical level.
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https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/feb/22/nancy-pelosis-border-wall-alternative-includes-mow/
Pelosi says don't build a wall, mow grass.
I am stumped. No retort.
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Is Mexico paying for the mowing?
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Going to be a weird change of pace seeing Mexicans pay to mow someone else’s grass
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https://www.news.meredithlmg.com/tncms/asset/editorial/99cf37b8-e7fc-11e8-b216-4b1ac2b5946c/
Tom
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Unless someone from Mexico buys it there is nothing Maga about that. If you have to pay for it that makes it a beta loser wall. Don’t want to teach my kids to be incels
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big beautiful great idea:
instead of the wall, expand the rio grand and excavate the rest of the border into a giant canal connecting the pacific and gulf of mexico.
it would be the biggest construction project of all time (cool)
it would be at least as impassable as a wall (fine!)
it would generate bagillions of dollars for the US of america (best!)
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The Fantastic Canyon
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incredible self own here folks
https://twitter.com/GOP/status/1451669717127737355
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The unilateral declarations of ownage by #blueanonGe are always the best.
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The GOP twitter account using BREAKING is pretty hilarious in its own right
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i don't know who is stupider here, the gop or the posters dunking on them. i guess it's the same stupidity either way.