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General Discussion => The New Joe Montgomery Birther Pit => Topic started by: renocat on March 04, 2017, 08:25:18 AM
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Trump made this accusation this morning. If true, bad for America.
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Literally or just seriously?
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Literally or just seriously?
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/news/post-politics/wp/2017/03/04/trump-accuses-obama-of-nixonwatergate-plot-to-wire-tap-trump-tower/
Literally. At least according to aPres.
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Love that he went from tweeting about something supposedly on the level of Watergate to The Apprentice in about 3 seconds
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Deflectors at maximum
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He'd so rattled. Deep down must know that he's mumped.
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I wonder if something else is going to break this weekend or early next week.
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SNL is going to be great tonight
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SNL is going to be great tonight
Wack is gonna flip
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1. I don't have any idea if this is true.
2. If I had to guess, it's probably true because (1) Trump's in a position to know, and (2) this is exactly the dirty politics I would expect.
3. I seriously doubt Obama or his lackies broke the law - they probably got a FISA warrant.
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Media reports in the past few weeks have suggested the FBI had sought a warrant from the foreign intelligence surveillance court (Fisa) last summer in order to monitor members of the Trump team suspected of irregular contacts with Russian officials.
The warrant was first turned down but then approved in October, according to the media reports. There has been no official confirmation and it is also not clear if this evolved into a full investigation.
From the Washington Post.
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If so then it's definitely something the President of the United States should just be tweeting about willy-nilly before then tweeting about The Apprentice :lol:
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1. I don't have any idea if this is true.
2. If I had to guess, it's probably true because (1) Trump's in a position to know, and (2) this is exactly the dirty politics I would expect.
3. I seriously doubt Obama or his lackies broke the law - they probably got a FISA warrant.
You gotta dance with the date that brung ya
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:bwpopcorn:
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I think Arnold just needed more time
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Ok. So sounds like Obama's DOJ got a FISA warrant under some undisclosed pretext to tap phones late in the campaign. Dirty politics (one might say Nixonian?) but not illegal.
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Hopefully his phones are still tapped.
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Hopefully his phones are still tapped.
I have no doubt they are. The "deep state" bureaucracy is a real thing and it hates Trump with a passion. He threatens their livelihood.
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If having a deep state bureaucracy means not having an autocracy, then I'm all for it.
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Ok. So sounds like Obama's DOJ got a FISA warrant under some undisclosed pretext to tap phones late in the campaign. Dirty politics (one might say Nixonian?) but not illegal.
Link?
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I don't need any evidence if the president doesn't
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Yeah, I'm seeing nothing confirming this. It's probably just as true as crime being at a record high, Mexico sending people to rape and murder us, and Ted Cruz's dad killing JFK.
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https://www.google.com/amp/s/heatst.com/world/exclusive-fbi-granted-fisa-warrant-covering-trump-camps-ties-to-russia/amp/
This was reported by this source in November. Media.apparently.hid. Trump keeping it back fo butt kick payback.
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And his comments on Sweden that promptly lead Sweden to ask wtf is he talking about.
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If so then it's definitely something the President of the United States should just be tweeting about willy-nilly before then tweeting about The Apprentice :lol:
If the wire tapping is true that makes it even more lol than making it up.
"eff I'm being spied on....oh crap the apprentice!"
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If having a deep state bureaucracy means not having an autocracy, then I'm all for it.
That's one hell of an LOL if.
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https://twitter.com/tedlieu/status/838044902961229824
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Boom Roasted! Was the tap on the whole tower or specific rooms? Also, who is using land lines?
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I think the 'tap' was on a server at trump tower to monitor activity from Russian banks.
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Awww. I'm behind the times on what wire tapping now means. So a federal judge thought things were going down and warranted a checking up on. What's wrong with any of that?
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Awww. I'm behind the times on what wire tapping now means. So a federal judge thought things were going down and warranted a checking up on. What's wrong with any of that?
A federal judge also thought the prospect of a few adjuncts maybe being delayed in arriving at a University gave the State of Washington standing to sue the President et al. to challenge Executive judgment. The same federal judge thought this shaky standing warranted issuing a nation-wide injunction (essentially), thus denuding the power of one of our branches of government. There are currently 800+ federal (Article III) judges in the United States. You implicitly trust all of them?
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I'm simply stating the facts. Not the merit of said facts. I'm sure politicians and Lawyers know what judges to go to for their desired result and who to avoid.
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I'd like to get the opinion of an actual lawyer on this subject
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I think Arnold just needed more time
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I'd like to get the opinion of an actual lawyer on this subject
received his law degree magna cum laude from Georgetown University Law Center, where he served as Editor-in-Chief of the law review
https://twitter.com/tedlieu/status/838044902961229824
https://twitter.com/tedlieu/status/838165867766505472
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I'd like to get the opinion of an actual lawyer on this subject
received his law degree magna cum laude from Georgetown University Law Center, where he served as Editor-in-Chief of the law review
https://twitter.com/tedlieu/status/838044902961229824
https://twitter.com/tedlieu/status/838165867766505472
Yeah I read those, it was more a little jab about our resident law STUDENT
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Suck it, Spracne!
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I think the gov spying on phone logs is a little less invasive than the main squeeze of nearly everyone in the populous. Which is of course ISP spying, but go ahead and portray these phone log taps as the Uber important issue here.
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A little post deletion huh spracs? :lol:
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Point one - Obama is a master at bending tbe law until screams in shear agony. Be tells his lawyers to parse words so be gets his way. If he can create defacto law, it is not a stretch to believe be encouraged someone who FISA judge to order the wire tap = deniability. Point two - Obama could not order a wire tap but he sure can get access to the gathered information. Third, Obama and his minions believe if they destroy Trump, he won't destroy ObAma accomplishments. They think they are cool, but.are fools to think Trump will go dead chicken.
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https://twitter.com/tedlieu/status/838044902961229824
They find anything yet?
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Point one - Obama is a master at bending tbe law until screams in shear agony. Be tells his lawyers to parse words so be gets his way. If he can create defacto law, it is not a stretch to believe be encouraged someone who FISA judge to order the wire tap = deniability. Point two - Obama could not order a wire tap but he sure can get access to the gathered information. Third, Obama and his minions believe if they destroy Trump, he won't destroy ObAma accomplishments. They think they are cool, but.are fools to think Trump will go dead chicken.
Every day I'm shocked you lived through the night and that you didn't suffocate from forgetting to breathe.
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Point one - Obama is a master at bending tbe law until screams in shear agony. Be tells his lawyers to parse words so be gets his way. If he can create defacto law, it is not a stretch to believe be encouraged someone who FISA judge to order the wire tap = deniability. Point two - Obama could not order a wire tap but he sure can get access to the gathered information. Third, Obama and his minions believe if they destroy Trump, he won't destroy ObAma accomplishments. They think they are cool, but.are fools to think Trump will go dead chicken.
Every day I'm shocked you lived through the night and that you didn't suffocate from forgetting to breathe.
Apparently you agree with my points as you have no rebuttal. Like a little child you have to resort to anger and name calling when accused of wetting your pants while you are standing in a puddle of yellow water. I and many others like me are breathing quite well. We not be bullied by condescending arrogant people who profess to be enlightened, but are narrow minded twits who have no conception of the real world.
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http://www.theblaze.com/news/2017/03/04/obama-spox-says-obama-never-wiretapped-a-us-citizen-immediately-receives-harsh-history-lesson/
This shows Obama's legal gymnastics. Of course, ai-ed and similar intelligent people believe everything Obama says is the truth. Truth in the narrow sense. Probably defensible in a court, but not in the scrutiny of true public opinion.
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https://twitter.com/tedlieu/status/838044902961229824
They find anything yet?
We continually find out that Trump is somehow an even bigger dumbass than we thought before.
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You ever hear the saying that a prosecutor can get a grand jury to indict a ham sandwich? Yeah, the Feds can get the FISA court to issue a warrant to wiretap a ham sandwich.
The real story is that the Feds' first application was so awful it was actually rejected, something that almost never happens. FISA ultimately approving a warrant means absolutely nothing.
Also rare is for FISA warrant requests to be turned down. During the 25 years from 1979 to 2004, 18,742 warrants were granted, while only 4 were rejected. Fewer than 200 requests had to be modified before being accepted, almost all of them in 2003 and 2004. The four rejected requests were all from 2003, and all four were partially granted after being submitted for reconsideration by the government. Of the requests that had to be modified, few were before the year 2000. During the next eight years, from 2004 to 2012, there were over 15,100 additional warrants granted, and another 7 being rejected. Over the entire 33-year period, the FISA court granted 33,942 warrants, with only 12 denials – a rejection rate of 0.03 percent of the total requests. This does not include the number of warrants that were modified by the FISA court. This can cause a phenomenon called "confirmation bias" which, due to such a high approval rate of warrants, can lead to over rationalization of information by the government on targeted individuals.
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I'm not seeing where a warrant was even issued, let alone that the first application was turned down. Where are you seeing this?
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Point one - Obama is a master at bending tbe law until screams in shear agony. Be tells his lawyers to parse words so be gets his way. If he can create defacto law, it is not a stretch to believe be encouraged someone who FISA judge to order the wire tap = deniability. Point two - Obama could not order a wire tap but he sure can get access to the gathered information. Third, Obama and his minions believe if they destroy Trump, he won't destroy ObAma accomplishments. They think they are cool, but.are fools to think Trump will go dead chicken.
Every day I'm shocked you lived through the night and that you didn't suffocate from forgetting to breathe.
Apparently you agree with my points as you have no rebuttal. Like a little child you have to resort to anger and name calling when accused of wetting your pants while you are standing in a puddle of yellow water. I and many others like me are breathing quite well. We not be bullied by condescending arrogant people who profess to be enlightened, but are narrow minded twits who have no conception of the real world.
No real need for a rebuttal when it's just nonsensical ramblings from a guy who I'm honestly surprised has never swallowed his tongue.
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It is good to know from very intelligent people that Obama was incapable of doing the deeds Trump accused him of doing. Obama spokesperson said yesterday that the former President did not order this done. Did the spokesperson say Trump wasn't tapped? Did he chastise anyone who may have done so? Did he deny an agency that answers to this President did not do this? The answer from the is simply people who believe this are stupid droolers. Yet they expect us to believe their false information.
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try that post again reno, this time make it make sense.
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If a federal judge allowed a tap....Your boy is probably mumped.
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I'm not seeing where a warrant was even issued, let alone that the first application was turned down. Where are you seeing this?
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jan/10/fbi-chief-given-dossier-by-john-mccain-alleging-secret-trump-russia-contacts
The Guardian has learned that the FBI applied for a warrant from the foreign intelligence surveillance (Fisa) court over the summer in order to monitor four members of the Trump team suspected of irregular contacts with Russian officials. The Fisa court turned down the application asking FBI counter-intelligence investigators to narrow its focus. According to one report, the FBI was finally granted a warrant in October, but that has not been confirmed, and it is not clear whether any warrant led to a full investigation.
I think a few outlets reported on it when the dossier came out.
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https://theintercept.com/2017/03/04/if-trump-tower-was-wiretapped-trump-can-declassify-that-right-now/
Put up or crap up tiny hands.
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https://twitter.com/BraddJaffy/status/838486290593099776
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try that post again reno, this time make it make sense.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-03-04/obama-advisor-rhodes-wrong-president-can-order-wiretap-and-why-trump-may-have-last-l
This article has the points I was trying to say. This article points out Obama is only denying that he did not order such a wire.tap. Note he did not deny any phones of trump people were tapped. He does not deny the FISA court order issued in October did not order trump tower to be wire tapped. Until Obams denies all of these points, I reluctantly have to believe Trump as I assume he has access to some damning stuff. I hope this ends for the sake of the country with Trump looking like a paranoid nut. However, Obama has a record of disseminating falsehoods and arrogantly twisting or skirting the intent of the law to achieve what he thinks is justified.
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Lol yes of all presidents, Obama is the one everybody associated with constant lying. JFC guys quit putting the guy you voted for in front of the entire country.
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Stop posting crap from zero hedge and calling it an "article." It's mindless bullshit drivel.
Also, they, and you should read your "articles" before posting them:
"(B) there is no substantial likelihood that the surveillance will acquire the contents of any communication to which a United States person is a party;"
following with only examples that have been court approved or litigated and allowed by the courts.
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I have to say, Trump's presidency is the train wreck I was hoping for.
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I have to say, Trump's presidency is the train wreck I was hoping for.
And we're not even 2 months in.
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Fox News Grandpa is going to have a heart attack.
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Lol yes of all presidents, Obama is the one everybody associated with constant lying. JFC guys quit putting the guy you voted for in front of the entire country.
Ftr, obama is a gigantic piece of crap who lied all the time and I wouldn't put anything past him.
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https://twitter.com/tedlieu/status/838044902961229824
They find anything yet?
"Deep crap" is a commonly used phrase among learned legal scholars.
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It's truly frightening that the resident libtards are championing the judgment of the fisa court.
#neofascism
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It's truly frightening that the resident libtards are championing the judgment of the fisa court.
#neofascism
Judges :curse:
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https://twitter.com/tedlieu/status/838044902961229824
They find anything yet?
We continually find out that Trump is somehow an even bigger dumbass than we thought before.
So still clean? :lol:
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A NEW YORK TIMES article from January 19 insinuates counter intelligence measures yielded the conclusion Russians interfered with his election. The counter intelligence information hinted a Trump.connection. So what is meant by counter intelligence measures? Sound like wire taps.
https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/01/19/us/politics/trump-russia-associates-investigation.htmlkoo
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The political cartoon I would draw about this has Obama holding a phone away from his face with a disgusted look and urine is pouring out of the phone
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Stop posting crap from zero hedge and calling it an "article." It's mindless bullshit drivel.
Also, they, and you should read your "articles" before posting them:
"(B) there is no substantial likelihood that the surveillance will acquire the contents of any communication to which a United States person is a party;"
following with only examples that have been court approved or litigated and allowed by the courts.
Ehhh....One of the upshots from Snowden/Greenwald is that communications of uninvolved United States parties are absolutely acquired and retained, even those originating within the US. Whether or not they are used is a different question, but acquired, absolutely.
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The libtards "guy" wire tapped news reporters he didn't like, but that wasn't viewed as an "affront on free speach" at the time, bc libtard=hypocrite leftist shill
https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/838661776526880768
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The muck gets deeper.
Grassley intends to investigate the allegation that FBI and Clinton campaign paid British spy to dig up salacious dirt about Trump per the famous dossier that had false information.
http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/322553-grassley-probes-fbis-ties-to-british-spy-who-investigated-trump
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Grassley is what I think Reno looks like except overalls
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Get a special prosecutor and investigate everything about this. Unless trump is afraid :confused:
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Get a special prosecutor and investigate everything about this. Unless trump is afraid :confused:
Trump isn't a congressman, nitwit
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Idiots.
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Conspiracy theory analysis: :Wha:
Do liberals understand what Pandora’s Box Obama opened up by Obama using the powers of the NSA, CIA and FBI to spy on his political opponents? Even Nixon never did that.
If the stories are correct, Obama or his officials might even face prosecution. But, we are still early in all of this and there are a lot of rumors flying around so the key is if the reports are accurate. We just don’t know at this time. The stories currently are three-fold: first, that Obama’s team tried to get a warrant from a regular, Article III federal court on Trump, and was told no by someone along the way (maybe the FBI), as the evidence was that weak or non-existent; second, Obama’s team then tried to circumvent the federal judiciary’s independent role by trying to mislabel the issue one of “foreign agents,” and tried to obtain a warrant from the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act “courts”, and were again turned down, when the court saw Trump named (an extremely rare act of FISA court refusal of the government, suggesting the evidence was truly non-existent against Trump); and so, third, Obama circumvented both the regular command of the FBI and the regularly appointed federal courts, by placing the entire case as a FISA case (and apparently under Sally Yates at DOJ) as a “foreign” case, and then omitted Trump’s name from a surveillance warrant submitted to the FISA court, which the FISA court unwittingly granted, which Obama then misused to spy on Trump and many connected to Trump. Are these allegations true?
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It's truly frightening that the resident libtards are championing the judgment of the fisa court.
#neofascism
Judges :curse:
:eek:
Out of 35,000+ requests for surveillance, the FISA court has only ever rejected a whopping 12.
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How do you hold your breath this long and not pass out FSD?
Tomorrow when Trump demands we investigate the moon is made out of cheese are you going to stand behind him?
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If Mark Levin can feed a story to Brietbart about how Obama replaced the moon with cheese, yes.
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Get a special prosecutor and investigate everything about this. Unless trump is afraid :confused:
Trump isn't a congressman, nitwit
Last time I checked there were plenty of Trumpublicans in congress. But let me guess, the "deep state" won't let them?
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what a complete clown.
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It's truly frightening that the resident libtards are championing the judgment of the fisa court.
#neofascism
Judges :curse:
:eek:
Out of 35,000+ requests for surveillance, the FISA court has only ever rejected a whopping 12.
and to think those courts turned them down twice.
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I don’t have an opinion about what happened, or didn’t happen, with the wiretapping. But this story did make me laugh when I realized we find ourselves in the following fun situation:
1. President Trump is the world’s biggest liar (according to his foes).
And…
2. President Trump now has direct access to more national secrets than any other living human being.
And that means fun.
This wiretapping situation shows us how much fun it will be. Six months ago, if Trump made a hard-to-believe claim about something that is also hard to verify, the country would assume he was lying, incorrect, or negotiating. Now, if he says something hard-to-believe, such as the recent wiretapping claim, you have to wonder if the President knows something you don’t. Because he knows a lot of somethings you don’t.
Maximum mine density minesweeper
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It's truly frightening that the resident libtards are championing the judgment of the fisa court.
#neofascism
Judges :curse:
:eek:
Out of 35,000+ requests for surveillance, the FISA court has only ever rejected a whopping 12.
and to think those courts turned them down twice.
Truly unprecedented
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It's amazing, Obama could shoot himself in the face in the middle of Fifth Avenue, die, and he wouldn't lose a single conspiracy theory.
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That's a gun free zone Abe. :nono:
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I don't think so
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For people born in Kenya it is.
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Can't imagine that's true either
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And that means fun
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https://www.google.com/amp/www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/laptop-trump-clinton-information-stolen-secret-service/
Obama flunkies have now stooped to a new low, stealing. If you think the secret service is inept enough to leave such a sensitive computer unguarded, then you are naive. IMEO it has to be an inside job. Obama demented minions have motive and orders from El oCrapo to destroy the Beloved, Donald D Trump, II.
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https://twitter.com/AP/status/844601141908455425
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WELP!
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Thus we come back to the order for widespread dissemination and unmasking signed off by Obama and Lynch.
“Details with little or no apparent foreign intelligence value were widely disseminated in an intelligence community report,”
Just waiting on the Dem hyper apologists to start posting on the air cover stories about how Obama's Police State/Deep State order was actually a good thing. Laughably absurd on every conceivable level.
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If he doesn't want to be incidentally surveilled, maybe he shouldn't be colluding with Russia.
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:lol: :lol:
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Stop posting crap from zero hedge and calling it an "article." It's mindless bullshit drivel.
Also, they, and you should read your "articles" before posting them:
"(B) there is no substantial likelihood that the surveillance will acquire the contents of any communication to which a United States person is a party;"
following with only examples that have been court approved or litigated and allowed by the courts.
Ehhh....One of the upshots from Snowden/Greenwald is that communications of uninvolved United States parties are absolutely acquired and retained, even those originating within the US. Whether or not they are used is a different question, but acquired, absolutely.
:peek:
As I was sayin' - its all just a question of who accesses it for whatever "incidental" reasons....
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So much for country before party :dubious:
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Um... from the article. "Nunes said the new information did not change his assessment that the wiretapping allegations were false"
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Clickbait. Sad
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"Nunes said the surveillance collection was "legally collected foreign intelligence under FISA incidental collection." But Nunes said he was "alarmed" the intelligence "ended up in reporting channels and was widely disseminated." Fox News.
Well show my butt to the other baboons. First reports from NY Times said a FISA was approved, and only information that would have come from the inner sanctum of the Beloved were leaked. So old Loose Screws may have tighter nuts than we think.
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Um... from the article. "Nunes said the new information did not change his assessment that the wiretapping allegations were false"
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Then why are Dems having the usual meltdown (yes, I know I answered my question given that the meltdown has been ongoing since election day)?
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What meltdown? Just seems to be a lot of Trump supporters acting like this redeems his tweets. Which it doesn't.
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What meltdown? Just seems to be a lot of Trump supporters acting like this redeems his tweets. Which it doesn't.
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projection. anytime dax refers to a meltdown it means he is melting down
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nunes is such an idiot. he's my congressman, too.
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What meltdown? Just seems to be a lot of Trump supporters acting like this redeems his tweets. Which it doesn't.
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projection. anytime dax refers to a meltdown it means he is melting down
Weird, this coming from someone who is in a state of constant passive-aggressive butthurt. Isn't it time to start one of your passive aggressive meltdown "question threads"?
So weird
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I agree with Dax the Wise. When this all done a people belittling the Beloved will be eating crow. Yes, the Beloved has loose screws and faulty brain wiring, but he is not delusional and mad. The smartest thing the Demoroncrats can do is take the lead on the witch hunt to find out what their Obutthair really did.
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I agree with Dax the Wise. When this all done a people belittling the Beloved will be eating crow. Yes, the Beloved has loose screws and faulty brain wiring, but he is not delusional and mad. The smartest thing the Demoroncrats can do is take the lead on the witch hunt to find out what their Obutthair really did.
Shoulda gone with Demoncrats imo
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Rice is like a wart on Obama's testicles. Personal, hidden, and not separated from the coolOne. You can bet obama ordered the unmasking.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/04/03/susan-rice-requested-to-unmask-names-trump-transition-officials-sources-say.html
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Well, Obama almost went scandal free, at least he got his money's worth with the most heinous political scandal of all time.
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whats up with susan rice
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https://twitter.com/MissLizzyNJ/status/848976115939115008
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Would smash
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Time for Susan to take a months long trip to a remote Pacific island?
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obviously she will be eliminated.
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CNN wants the 4 viewers they have to ignore this story.
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Failing Fake news CNN wants the 4 viewers they have to ignore this story.
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Great lib meltdown so far over this. Terrible that the previous administration was/is so subversive.
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Any examples of the meltdown dax?
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How many times does dreamy Don have to clownsuit the media before they give up?
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Any examples of the meltdown dax?
See Also: Don Lemon
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Ever see a nuclear turd explode. I think Oriceabama Affair is gonna blow.
http://dailycaller.com/2017/04/03/susan-rice-ordered-spy-agencies-to-produce-detailed-spreadsheets-involving-trump/
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I don’t have an opinion about what happened, or didn’t happen, with the wiretapping. But this story did make me laugh when I realized we find ourselves in the following fun situation:
1. President Trump is the world’s biggest liar (according to his foes).
And…
2. President Trump now has direct access to more national secrets than any other living human being.
And that means fun.
This wiretapping situation shows us how much fun it will be. Six months ago, if Trump made a hard-to-believe claim about something that is also hard to verify, the country would assume he was lying, incorrect, or negotiating. Now, if he says something hard-to-believe, such as the recent wiretapping claim, you have to wonder if the President knows something you don’t. Because he knows a lot of somethings you don’t.
Maximum mine density minesweeper
That would make sense if Trump wasn't just watching Fox News for most of his information.
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It's a good thing that Fox News is such an ethical institution (:lol:) or they could really eff with that crap brain Ron Burgundy teleprompter style.
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We need to be careful here guys, Chris Matthews just pointed out that the right maybe just going after Susan Rice because she is black, and also a woman. This is why he gets the big bucks so let's calm down.
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We need to be careful here guys, Chris Matthews just pointed out that the right maybe just going after Susan Rice because she is black, and also a woman. This is why he gets the big bucks so let's calm down.
So if conservativesthe pursues finding out if she broke laws or hid behind a wall of legalities to.destroy Trump.they are racist? Does gender or race elevate one to a position to be above the law? How dare conservatives attack or challenge the poliies or celebrated icons of the intelligence left's ruling class. Peons who do so are ________. I don't believe Rice as far as I can throw a bull elephant.
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My goodness, the leftbots will believe everything that comes out of Susan "it was a YouTube Video" Rice's mouth.
So, very, sad
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dax is incredible.
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The top Democrat on the House Russia investigation, Rep. Adam Schiff, said Wednesday President Donald Trump personally promised documents at the center of "unmasking" allegations would be made available to all members of the House intelligence committee, but that White House staff is fighting those documents' release.
http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/05/politics/adam-schiff-white-house-documents/index.html
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My goodness, the leftbots will believe everything that comes out of Susan "it was a YouTube Video" Rice's mouth.
So, very, sad
maybe you are taking her too literally?
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My goodness, the leftbots will believe everything that comes out of Susan "it was a YouTube Video" Rice's mouth.
So, very, sad
maybe you are taking her too literally?
So she kids around when people die?
Weird and sad
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http://circa.com/politics/barack-obamas-team-secretly-disclosed-years-of-illegal-nsa-searches-spying-on-americans
Interesting article I opened on Drudge. Appears OSnoop liked his information. Not too big of leap from here to the President Paranoid's accusation.
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After all this time Trump must have proven this up by now?
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ObamaStasi never sleeps
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I hope he comes out with the results of his investigation on the 4th of July or some other badass day. He can be proving he isn't a huge liar on Independence Day
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http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/05/25/obama-s-nsa-rebuked-for-snooping-on-americans-journo-says-it-proves-wide-pattern.html
Deeper into the the turd swamp sinks Obama
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Shh, lecturing on walls while behind security walls.
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When will president release the findings?
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With his unlimited access to the CIA, FBI and NSA he will produce proof of this allegation very soon.
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Lol, it's already understood.
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Can you shoot me a link where he released his proof, I've been crazy busy
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Can you shoot me a link where he released his proof, I've been crazy busy
They listened to Flynn, they were clearly listening to JK, why is it a stretch to think they weren't listening to Trump.
Good lawd they ran an operation that Dick Nixon looks down (or up) on with glowing green envy and they still couldn't win.
A massive intelligence complex spying on the Trump campaign and they're still not sure if there was COLUSION or who hacked Hillary, and Hillary still lost. Lol, what a waste of billions.
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Just the link where he discussed the evidence he uncovered will be good for me.
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Just the link where he discussed the evidence he uncovered will be good for me.
Then the New Cold Warriors and the government in exile would be melting down about that.
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So he made the claim with no evidence? That's like claiming the Russians hacked the election
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So he made the claim with no evidence? That's like claiming the Russians hacked the election
What part of its known that they listened to people in the Trump campaign confuses you?
But still no there there on anything.
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:Chirp:
Link
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Oh man, dickbeaters woke up really mad at Trump today :surprised:
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Oh man, dickbeaters woke up really mad at Trump today :surprised:
:D
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So he made the claim with no evidence? That's like claiming the Russians hacked the election
This has been confirmed by many government agencies. Lots of links in here https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_interference_in_the_2016_United_States_elections
Hopefully dax will be able to provide some as well
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Are you intimating Donald should be conducting an investigation into obama? That's bigly Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)
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Are you intimating Donald should be conducting an investigation into obama? That's bigly Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)
Not as Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) as making the claim then saying you were going to investigate.
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https://twitter.com/BraddJaffy/status/838486290593099776
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It's understood
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Wait, your denying the b.o. administration unmasked trump campaign officials??? :lol:
Do you have google????
Or do you think trump meant obama broke into his hotel and put 1970's phone taps in landline receivers??? :lol:
You people are so rough ridin' stupid
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And why do all of you dorks follow brad jaffey on twitter and rough ridin' post all of his stupid tweets on this bbs??
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lol, awesome
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It's okay to say hacked when you really mean fished and trolled.
But wire tap can only mean nixonian era fbi mafia devices and not unlawful surveillance.
What an amaze disingenuous position. Dugout, I you've become a libtard.
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It's ok buddy, can't win em all.
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pwn3d
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Awesome
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pwn3d°2
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This goes here
https://www.google.com/amp/amp.usatoday.com/story/102284058/
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(https://thedailybanter.com/.image/t_share/MTM2NjQzNjc2MzkyNTMxNTUz/obamanixon.png)
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James Miller wasn't beheaded on Obama's watch. I'll tell you that.
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http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/06/01/fitton-judicial-watch-seeks-docs-on-obama-white-house-spying-scandal/
It appears several Obama thugs who had nothing to do with national security regularly requested the unmasking of NSA intercepts for certain people. How deep is the manure mamma? Four feet high and rising.
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good time to bump this, I bet Trump is almost ready to announce
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Goemawdangit racist conservative bastards and bastardettes attacking Susan Rice because she is a black WOMAN. the latest reaction to her being the NSA Unmasking Queen who violated the law to get political and personal dope on Obama's enemies.
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This thread delivers
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Oh don't look now, but surprise. Susie Rice playing the racist/sexist card. Who didn't see that coming as soon as the squeeze started getting put on Loretta?
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Sudan Rice (aka youtube lady) is a well documented liar and idiot. Grossly incompetent, like all of the b.o. admin.
https://youtu.be/hGXy_yhOfNg
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Sudan Rice (aka youtube lady) is a well documented liar and idiot. Grossly incompetent, like all of the b.o. admin.
https://youtu.be/hGXy_yhOfNg
Reverse parties and that's worth at least 12 months of breathless "Breaking News" coverage.
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Sudan Rice (aka youtube lady) is a well documented liar and idiot. Grossly incompetent, like all of the b.o. admin.
https://youtu.be/hGXy_yhOfNg
Reverse parties and that's worth at least 12 months of breathless "Breaking News" coverage.
Per chum1libtard, that conduct is conspiracy to commit computer fraud.
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What's status of phone tap investo?
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What's status of phone tap investo?
Don't know yet, two of the primary people are starting to get back into the rhythm of stonewalling, so they can get their lies squared away.
Now all we need is some John Brennan double speak and backtracking on unmasking and we'll really be cooking with gas.
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I am really just referring into Trumps investigation of the phone taps that Obama conducted on Trump's phones. That's kind of what TT is about
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Sudan Rice (aka youtube lady) is a well documented liar and idiot. Grossly incompetent, like all of the b.o. admin.
https://youtu.be/hGXy_yhOfNg
Reverse parties and that's worth at least 12 months of breathless "Breaking News" coverage.
Per chum1libtard, that conduct is conspiracy to commit computer fraud.
I was actually only saying that claims of COLUSION aren't nothing because people could realistically end up in court defending themselves against criminal charges.
I might agree here, similarly, that claims of Susan Rice are also not nothing, but I really don't care enough to learn about it.
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Rice is going to testify next month. I hope this is as fun for you as Comey was for us.
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I hope she helps out Trumps ongoing investigation into the phone taps on him by Obama.
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I bet she just pleads the 5th a whole bunch. :frown:
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Rice is going to testify next month. I hope this is as fun for you as Comey was for us.
The only real revelation in Comey's testimony was the Susan Rice obstruction claim.
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:lol:
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:combofan:
Rice is going to testify next month. I hope this is as fun for you as Comey was for us.
The only real revelation in Comey's testimony was the Susan Rice obstruction claim.
And that Comey was every administrations push over.
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Man, Libs hanging on every word of a weirdo, clearly narcissistic former FBI director never gets old. The Lib Movement: Yes, we'll sell out our ideals for power
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Moderates just curious to learn the result of trumps promised investigation.
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Moderates just curious to learn the result of trumps promised investigation.
Moderates #tears
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Do we not get to hear the results of the investigation he promised? I'd really like to know if Obama tapped Trumps phones
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this bbs is so old balls now
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Nice deflection Dug. We'll stay on track with Loretta and Susie (among many) for now.
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I mean, I know you can read the title of the thread
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Why such a hurry, everything else is taking months and months.
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When do you expect the results?
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/clinton-campaign-dnc-paid-for-research-that-led-to-russia-dossier/ar-AAu0xVg
This article states after the election Obama and FBI continued to pay the guy who put together the ogus dossier about Trump and Russia. Why? My opinion, to destroy Donald.
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Everyone thought Trump was a conspiracy lunatic when he claimed he was surveilled. The Nunes Memo said the FBI got a FISA warrant to spy on Carter Page. Including Page's conversation with Trump campaign officials. From Tucker Carlson, Fox News, Tonight, based on our own reporting, we can tell you that Carter Page also sent email messages to members of the Trump campaign during that same period. Presumably, the FBI intercepted those as well.
Suddenly it looks like the Obama administration may have spied on a significant portion of the Trump campaign team. Just how many people were surveilled and to what extent? How much did President Obama know about that? We still don't have the answers to those questions, though we definitely have the right to them. Oh, no we don't, say Democrats."
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Gonna break that phone tap story any day now...
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I was told there was proof
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Still denying Don and his team was surveiled, huh?
#delusion
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I love how dumb trumpers think the pivot from "Trump was tapped" to "well he talked to a lot guys under surveillance for treason (but oh BTW trump has never met these people and has no idea who they are)" is a win for them
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He said his phone was tapped and he was investigating. I just want to know if that was true or a lie. It is a yes or no answer
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The #delusion is strong
:lol: :eek:
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But, is the #denial stronger? Talk amongst yourselves.
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I know the answer, I'll let you in if you ask
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But, is the #denial stronger? Talk amongst yourselves.
Some Daddy’s can be very demanding and judgey FSD, when jr. grows up to be a big man-boy he sooooo angry and rebellious
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Tis true
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These surveillance stories will start to get concerning as soon as it comes out that we spied on someone who isn't a traitor to his/her country.
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These surveillance stories will start to get concerning as soon as it comes out that we spied on someone who isn't a traitor to his/her country.
FISA warrant tapes all incoming and outgoing conversation of all parties involved. If someone innocent visits with crook, that person is on record. The fear Republicans have is the OClinton’s machine used the pretext of surveilling a ginned up crook to gather information about the opposition when someone contact the supposed crook. There is no doubt a lame excuse was concocted to generate false information to get a FISA warrant to spy from the back door into Trump house. After the election it's been protect thine butt mode for the perpetrators.
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I think there is pretty overwhelming doubt that some lame excuse was used, reno.
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These surveillance stories will start to get concerning as soon as it comes out that we spied on someone who isn't a traitor to his/her country.
FISA warrant tapes all incoming and outgoing conversation of all parties involved. If someone innocent visits with crook, that person is on record. The fear Republicans have is the OClinton’s machine used the pretext of surveilling a ginned up crook to gather information about the opposition when someone contact the supposed crook. There is no doubt a lame excuse was concocted to generate false information to get a FISA warrant to spy from the back door into Trump house. After the election it's been protect thine butt mode for the perpetrators.
Seems like if you were trying to spy on the campaign you would want someone more "plugged in".
Or everyone associated with this administration/campaign is a huge liar...
Trump campaign communications director Jason Miller told the Hill that Page had “never been a part of our campaign, period.”
Kellyanne Conway told CNN at the time that Page is “certainly not part of the campaign I’m running.”
Sean Spicer told reporters that “Carter Page is an individual who the president-elect does not know.”
“I don't think I've ever spoken to him,” President Trump said the next month. “I don't think I've ever met him.”
Corey Lewandowski, said on Fox News last March that he had “never met Carter Page. To the best of my knowledge, the president of the United States has never met Carter Page. Carter Page is a person who's going out and telling everybody that he was part of the campaign; he had no formal role in the campaign.”
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These surveillance stories will start to get concerning as soon as it comes out that we spied on someone who isn't a traitor to his/her country.
FISA warrant tapes all incoming and outgoing conversation of all parties involved. If someone innocent visits with crook, that person is on record. The fear Republicans have is the OClinton’s machine used the pretext of surveilling a ginned up crook to gather information about the opposition when someone contact the supposed crook. There is no doubt a lame excuse was concocted to generate false information to get a FISA warrant to spy from the back door into Trump house. After the election it's been protect thine butt mode for the perpetrators.
Seems like if you were trying to spy on the campaign you would want someone more "plugged in".
Or everyone associated with this administration/campaign is a huge liar...
Trump campaign communications director Jason Miller told the Hill that Page had “never been a part of our campaign, period.”
Kellyanne Conway told CNN at the time that Page is “certainly not part of the campaign I’m running.”
Sean Spicer told reporters that “Carter Page is an individual who the president-elect does not know.”
“I don't think I've ever spoken to him,” President Trump said the next month. “I don't think I've ever met him.”
Corey Lewandowski, said on Fox News last March that he had “never met Carter Page. To the best of my knowledge, the president of the United States has never met Carter Page. Carter Page is a person who's going out and telling everybody that he was part of the campaign; he had no formal role in the campaign.”
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https://www.politico.com/story/2018/02/08/carter-page-steve-bannon-fbi-communications-398992
I am more worried about a precedent being established of political dirty tricks and abusing trusted powers against a political opponent. Holder's DOJ was guilty of politicalization of the agency
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i would suggest that bringing on a guy who claims to be an adviser to the Kremlin invites scrutiny
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These surveillance stories will start to get concerning as soon as it comes out that we spied on someone who isn't a traitor to his/her country.
FISA warrant tapes all incoming and outgoing conversation of all parties involved. If someone innocent visits with crook, that person is on record. The fear Republicans have is the OClinton’s machine used the pretext of surveilling a ginned up crook to gather information about the opposition when someone contact the supposed crook. There is no doubt a lame excuse was concocted to generate false information to get a FISA warrant to spy from the back door into Trump house. After the election it's been protect thine butt mode for the perpetrators.
Seems like if you were trying to spy on the campaign you would want someone more "plugged in".
Or everyone associated with this administration/campaign is a huge liar...
Trump campaign communications director Jason Miller told the Hill that Page had “never been a part of our campaign, period.”
Kellyanne Conway told CNN at the time that Page is “certainly not part of the campaign I’m running.”
Sean Spicer told reporters that “Carter Page is an individual who the president-elect does not know.”
“I don't think I've ever spoken to him,” President Trump said the next month. “I don't think I've ever met him.”
Corey Lewandowski, said on Fox News last March that he had “never met Carter Page. To the best of my knowledge, the president of the United States has never met Carter Page. Carter Page is a person who's going out and telling everybody that he was part of the campaign; he had no formal role in the campaign.”
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Once again, you don't need the big fish with FISA monitoring, you only need someone around them. Snowden's assertion that FISA searches went two degrees out from the named target wasn't ever disputed and was corroborated in Congressional committee testimony to be "two or three".
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https://twitter.com/abbydphillip/status/1196786685150978050
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That must have been really hard on Stephanie.
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We're supposed to believe that an administration that has never taken the high road on anything, took the high road and didn't report this until now. Seems logical.
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Are you accusing them of lying?
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Thought this was going to be about Giuliani's open cell phone, that he uses to call the president, being tapped by Russia, and how that is somehow Obama's fault. :Wha:
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https://twitter.com/abbydphillip/status/1196786685150978050
[/quoteTake it to the libs losing their minds thread over trump.
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those notes were actually left by Mrs. Trump
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Remember a month ago when he butt dialed a reporter?
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