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Title: Chicken or the Egg...which came first, Daniel Sams breaking the "deal," or Bill
Post by: Pete on May 13, 2010, 09:30:26 PM
http://kansasstate.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1084445

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In addition to this weekend's trip to Auburn, Frazier is in the process of scheduling visits to LSU, Notre Dame, UCLA, Miami and K-State

Daniel Sams informed us in his Rivals video interview that LHC Bill Snyder made him a deal that if Daniel didn't visit any other schools, then Bill wouldn't recruit any other quarterbacks in the class.  We have already discussed the notion that Pease (Juco athlete "QB) is apparently an exception to this rule.  However, the apparent visit of an "elite" QB recruit certainly leaves out the possibility that the recruit might be moved to another position, as with Pease.  

So, clearly Daniel Sam's must have taken another visit, right? :dunno:  I mean, I read dozens of posts on the Wabash the last time this topic was brought up, and they all assured us that Bill would be above reproach on this.  What gives?
Title: Re: Chicken or the Egg...which came first, Daniel Sams breaking the "deal," or Bill
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on May 13, 2010, 10:27:11 PM
Bill probably lied, and I have no problem with this. :lynchmob:
Title: Re: Chicken or the Egg...which came first, Daniel Sams breaking the "deal," or Bill
Post by: yoman on May 13, 2010, 10:39:09 PM
Bill probably lied, and I have no problem with this. :lynchmob:
I don't either, but I'm scared shitless that we screw this up :ohno:
Title: Re: Chicken or the Egg...which came first, Daniel Sams breaking the "deal," or Bill
Post by: Pete on May 13, 2010, 10:43:02 PM
Bill probably lied, and I have no problem with this. :lynchmob:

No question, I am right there with you on the notion that Bill needs to do whatever it takes to land a quality quarterback.  After all, it hasn't happened since 1998.

However, I am concerned that many of the Wabash Station followers don't have the "stomach" to tolerate the reality that LHC Bill Snyder will have to resort to desperate and despicable means to finally land a quality quarterback....'cause EVERYONE knows that the AC's that landed our previous QB's are long gone.
Title: Re: Chicken or the Egg...which came first, Daniel Sams breaking the "deal," or Bill
Post by: TheMadCatter on May 14, 2010, 01:35:36 AM
I'm with Yoman. I can picture Sams getting pissed and de-committing and Bill not landing any of the other quality quarterbacks and us being stuck with garbage....again.
Title: Re: Chicken or the Egg...which came first, Daniel Sams breaking the "deal," or Bill
Post by: Pexikan on May 14, 2010, 01:46:48 AM
Sams is bein stressed because the other big time school probably want him to switch positions, right? What, are we the ONLY team that wants him at QB? This DEAL that the two made is not very well thought out. Shame on Bill...shame on us all. :facepalm:
Title: Re: Chicken or the Egg...which came first, Daniel Sams breaking the "deal," or Bill
Post by: sonofdaxjones on May 14, 2010, 07:07:17 AM
Don't take it personally,  it's just business.

 
Title: Re: Chicken or the Egg...which came first, Daniel Sams breaking the "deal," or Bill
Post by: steve dave on May 14, 2010, 07:23:26 AM
If LHC Bill Snyder loses the bird in the hand for an outside shot at the two in the bush I will rough ridin' lose it.  rough ridin' LOSE IT.

 :frown:
Title: Re: Chicken or the Egg...which came first, Daniel Sams breaking the "deal," or Bill
Post by: steve dave on May 14, 2010, 07:29:46 AM
Yeah, they are already assuming Sams broke the deal forcing Bill's hand.  FORCING HIS HAND!

Quote from:  GPTard with a picture of his dog as his avatar
We don't know exactly what was said. Sams mentioned hcbs not recruiting more qb's IF he took no more visits. Could be that sams is taking visits.
Title: Re: Chicken or the Egg...which came first, Daniel Sams breaking the "deal," or Bill
Post by: sonofdaxjones on May 14, 2010, 07:38:13 AM
Didn't we also supposedly offer a QB in Arizona??

Title: Re: Chicken or the Egg...which came first, Daniel Sams breaking the "deal," or Bill
Post by: kso_FAN on May 14, 2010, 08:17:47 AM
Hopefully Snyder is just trying to find a Roberson for his Beasley.  Or a Dunn for his Roberson.  DOD QB competition techniques.  :dunno:
Title: Re: Chicken or the Egg...which came first, Daniel Sams breaking the "deal," or Bill
Post by: wiley on May 14, 2010, 09:12:59 AM
Was he recruiting Frazier before Sams, this would basically mean this wasn't necessarily a new qb recruit?   :dunno:
Title: Re: Chicken or the Egg...which came first, Daniel Sams breaking the "deal," or Bill
Post by: Dugout DickStone on May 14, 2010, 09:43:52 AM
I would put the odds at landing neither at better than even....and climbing.
Title: Re: Chicken or the Egg...which came first, Daniel Sams breaking the "deal," or Bill
Post by: Pittcat on May 14, 2010, 10:25:06 AM
Maybe this not-so-secret deal meant that Snyds and Co wouldn't go scouting for more QB recruits. 
Title: Re: Chicken or the Egg...which came first, Daniel Sams breaking the "deal," or Bill
Post by: steve dave on May 14, 2010, 10:35:49 AM
Synds lied to Sams bros.  I'm ok with it.  Bill has to get his.  The part I'm not OK with is the fact that we will probably end up with zero QBs for about the 10th year in a row under Bill. 
Title: Re: Chicken or the Egg...which came first, Daniel Sams breaking the "deal," or Bill
Post by: Pittcat on May 14, 2010, 10:38:04 AM
Settle down SD.  Snyds will find another 6th year senior to come in and lead the way.
Title: Re: Chicken or the Egg...which came first, Daniel Sams breaking the "deal," or Bill
Post by: CNS on May 14, 2010, 11:39:37 AM
Hopefully Snyder is just trying to find a Roberson for his Beasley.  Or a Dunn for his Roberson.  DOD QB competition techniques.  :dunno:

A Grant Gregory to his Coffman
Title: Re: Chicken or the Egg...which came first, Daniel Sams breaking the "deal," or Bill
Post by: Kat Kid on May 14, 2010, 12:26:59 PM
This is why I don't follow football recruiting.  Depressing and awful.
Title: Re: Chicken or the Egg...which came first, Daniel Sams breaking the "deal," or Bill
Post by: sonofdaxjones on May 14, 2010, 12:38:43 PM
Oh you see that's where you're wrong KK . . . right now it's very exciting and fun.   In a few months it will be depressing and awful.

Title: Re: Chicken or the Egg...which came first, Daniel Sams breaking the "deal," or Bill
Post by: dmartin on May 14, 2010, 12:41:34 PM
Oh you see that's where you're wrong KK . . . right now it's very exciting and fun.   In a few months it will be depressing and awful.



It's like buying a lottery ticket.  It's all hopes and dreams until you find out you lost
Title: Re: Chicken or the Egg...which came first, Daniel Sams breaking the "deal," or Bill
Post by: bakerman on May 14, 2010, 12:51:40 PM
Isn't there a Greg Paulus out there for us somewhere?  :dunno:
Title: Re: Chicken or the Egg...which came first, Daniel Sams breaking the "deal," or Bill
Post by: gowildcatwildcat on May 14, 2010, 02:24:47 PM
damn internets blabbing secret plans all over the place.
Title: Re: Chicken or the Egg...which came first, Daniel Sams breaking the "deal," or Bill
Post by: CNS on May 14, 2010, 02:34:55 PM
This is all an elaborate plan to make you STFU about Lamur.
Title: Re: Chicken or the Egg...which came first, Daniel Sams breaking the "deal," or Bill
Post by: wabash909 on May 14, 2010, 04:52:12 PM
Snyder and recruiting.  Why is he so horrible at this?

Title: Re: Chicken or the Egg...which came first, Daniel Sams breaking the "deal," or Bill
Post by: kstatefreak42 on May 14, 2010, 05:58:35 PM
Kiehl Frazier > Daniel Sams.
Title: Re: Chicken or the Egg...which came first, Daniel Sams breaking the "deal," or Bill
Post by: yoman on May 14, 2010, 07:08:13 PM
Kiehl Frazier > Daniel Sams.
yes. but no kiehl frazier or sams<having sams and not recruiting frazier.
it's not the fact that snyder is recruiting frazier that scares people, its that we haven't had a decent qb recruit in years, and we don't want sams recruitment to get mumped up
Title: Re: Chicken or the Egg...which came first, Daniel Sams breaking the "deal," or Bill
Post by: Kat Kid on May 14, 2010, 07:42:09 PM
Oh you see that's where you're wrong KK . . . right now it's very exciting and fun.   In a few months it will be depressing and awful.



Yeah, I guess that's pretty much why I said what I said.
Title: Re: Chicken or the Egg...which came first, Daniel Sams breaking the "deal," or Bill
Post by: WildCatzPhreak on May 14, 2010, 07:53:26 PM
This can be explained in one word.










Alzheimers.
Title: Re: Chicken or the Egg...which came first, Daniel Sams breaking the "deal," or Bill
Post by: steve dave on May 14, 2010, 08:46:08 PM
Kiehl Frazier > Daniel Sams.

I would vote very much the opposite.  eff Frazier.  Quit talking about or visiting us you loser.  JFC.
Title: Re: Chicken or the Egg...which came first, Daniel Sams breaking the "deal," or Bill
Post by: kstatefreak42 on May 17, 2010, 11:00:28 PM
Kiehl Frazier > Daniel Sams.

I would vote very much the opposite.  shazbot! Frazier.  Quit talking about or visiting us you loser.  JFC.
Sams Throwing ability looks Sam Lamur Type.  :flush: Other than that. Yeah he's great. love'em
Title: Re: Chicken or the Egg...which came first, Daniel Sams breaking the "deal," or Bill
Post by: steve dave on May 18, 2010, 07:29:37 AM
Kiehl Frazier > Daniel Sams.

I would vote very much the opposite.  eff Frazier.  Quit talking about or visiting us you loser.  JFC.

YES!  That loser Frazier got my message and we are not in his top 5.