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General Discussion => The New Joe Montgomery Birther Pit => Topic started by: renocat on February 13, 2017, 11:21:00 PM
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This is big stink from a small fart. Forced Flynn to resign for talking to a Russian ambassador. Bad movement, Trump-lax. Giving into the media.
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Her emails, his treason, no big deal
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Trump got silverbacked by Pelosi
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As Flynn is about to be exonerated soon... Not sure if this was the right thread for this:
https://twitter.com/Techno_Fog/status/1253786381307899904
Also, lmao at Trump being silverbacked by Pelosi in light of the recent events.
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How many people saw the Baker flip coming?
https://twitter.com/gatewaypundit/status/1255678574029348864
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Talking to Russians is Treason (Useful Idiot Nation)
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Talking to Russians is Treason (Useful Idiot Nation)
Wait til it starts coming out what Killary & Co. did w Russia.
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Talking to Russians is Treason (Useful Idiot Nation)
Wait til it starts coming out what Killary & Co. did w Russia.
What is the target date for this?
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Talking to Russians is Treason (Useful Idiot Nation)
Wait til it starts coming out what Killary & Co. did w Russia.
What is the target date for this?
Futures markets I’ve seen show a date of June 30 for those interested in taking a position, but that’s for her arrest. One might assume the info will start to emerge from more substantial sources prior to that.
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Good morning patriots!! What a beautiful day to be an American...
https://twitter.com/darnelsugarfoo/status/1255739399871971328
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I am both very upset that Hillary is not in jail for any given reason and also do not care about these things at all:
https://twitter.com/nycsouthpaw/status/1255969029073833987
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:lol: :lol:
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Amazing....
https://twitter.com/Techno_Fog/status/1256248951759650817
https://twitter.com/IsaacAdlerNY/status/848894053928316929
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Grats to Barry Obama for being able to President with the softest and most compliant media coverage of the post Vietnam-Watergate presidency.
It allowed him to get away with things that even had Richard Nixon’s ghost jealous AF.
It reaffirms what a total and absolute POS Barrack Obama was, and affirms he was one of the if not the greatest: Domestic-political spyers, refugee’ers, killer and deporter of brown people, regime changers, civil liberties destroyers, gun runners and executive branch over reachers ever.
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https://twitter.com/tomfitton/status/1257288275280134145
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:lol:
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Is that Greg Abbott's brother?
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Is that Greg Abbott's brother?
I thought that too.
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Holy crap... he does look like that worthless POS governing Texas.
:lol:
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What a show!!!
Who saw this plot twist coming over the past 3.5 years?!?!
https://twitter.com/SidneyPowell1/status/1257425766171717632
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Useful Idiot Nation grows more angst laden by the hour.
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UsefulPub_Idiot heroes Lisa Page and Peter Strzok working hard or hardly working?
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https://twitter.com/JosephJFlynn1/status/1257685349993721856
Hidden in plain sight...
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/mccabe-reveals-the-one-thing-that-stands-out-from-his-fateful-call-with-flynn.amp
From Feb 19, 2019
In his new book, former FBI deputy director Andrew McCabe offers extensive new details of investigators' fateful January 2017 interview with former national security adviser Michael Flynn at the White House -- a breezy conversation which began, according to McCabe, with all the urgency of a "playdate."
McCabe wrote in “The Threat,” released Tuesday, that "one thing [Flynn] said stands out in my memory" -- namely that "when I told him that people were curious" about his conversations with the then-Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak, Flynn replied, "You know what I said, because you guys were probably listening."
Without confirming Flynn's suspicions, McCabe wrote: "I had to wonder, as events played out: If you thought we were listening, why would you lie?" (A Washington Post article published one day before Flynn's White House interview with the agents, citing FBI sources, publicly revealed that the FBI had wiretapped Flynn's calls and cleared him of any criminal conduct.)
According to McCabe, the interview was "very odd" because "it seemed like [Flynn] was telling the truth" to the two agents who interviewed him, including since-fired FBI agent Peter Strzok. Flynn, the interviewing agents told McCabe, "had a very good recollection of events, which he related chronologically and lucidly," did not appear to be "nervous or sweating," and did not look "side to side" -- all of which would have been "behavioral signs of deception."
McCabe wrote that Flynn seemed "completely normal" -- even when, on three occasions, Flynn looked at the window and told agents, "What a beautiful black sky."
McCabe maintained that Flynn made that memorable comment three times -- first, at "noon," then an hour later, and then one more time shortly after that. However, McCabe's timeline in the book appeared to contradict the sentencing memorandum filed late last year by Flynn's attorneys, citing government documents.
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Am I to understand that the Obama administration "warned" Trump about Flynn . . . and it was done under the auspices that Flynn would go light on Russia?
The same Obama administration that repeatedly allowed Vlad Putin 360 windmill into their faces over the course of years? President Stand Down??
:lol: :lol:
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Our military intelligence already knew what was going on and it's starting to look like Flynn "took one for the team" and it's all been part of the plan all along.
https://twitter.com/TruthHammer888/status/1257725297794801664
I agree with this good patriot.
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exoneration update
:impatient:
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exoneration update
:impatient:
Here's your best source: https://twitter.com/SidneyPowell1/
She tweeted something yesterday about a discovery request that's due by May 18,2020. I dunno if they need that to come in prior, or not.
https://twitter.com/AKA_RealDirty/status/1257528613143969794
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exoneration update
:impatient:
Here's your best source: https://twitter.com/SidneyPowell1/
She tweeted something yesterday about a discovery request that's due by May 18,2020. I dunno if they need that to come in prior, or not.
https://twitter.com/AKA_RealDirty/status/1257528613143969794
Flynn's defense team should have access to all 302 witness statements obtained by the government. What's the purpose of this?
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My understanding is that they don't have them and haven't been able to get them... hence the request. They've been hiding them all along. Flynn's first defense team was a total crap show (perhaps by design) and appears now to possibly have been colluding with the conspirators.
It's been dirty from the ground all the way to the top.
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My understanding is that they don't have them and haven't been able to get them... hence the request. They've been hiding them all along. Flynn's first defense team was a total crap show (perhaps by design) and appears now to possibly have been colluding with the conspirators.
It's been dirty from the ground all the way to the top.
But that's not how it works. The Government must turn all 302's over.
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So, why is Flynn's defense attorney having such a hard time getting them? (honest question, tryna understand)
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Lotta foot dragging on the government's part and previous counsel, wow, what a bunch of rubes.
They had to have been threatened or bought off, and if not, they need to be disbarred for shear incompetence.
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The plot twists are amazing, to be fair.
I tend to agree with what @truthhammer888 tweeted earlier today that said General Flynn KNEW it was a set up and took one for the team by double crossing the FBI. Then, further implicated the dirty attorneys at Covington & Burling that he originally had "defending" him.
I won't be shocked to see that they were in the FBI's pocket when this all shakes out.
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https://twitter.com/Techno_Fog/status/1257759586733428736
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The plot twists are amazing, to be fair.
I tend to agree with what @truthhammer888 tweeted earlier today that said General Flynn KNEW it was a set up and took one for the team by double crossing the FBI. Then, further implicated the dirty attorneys at Covington & Burling that he originally had "defending" him.
I won't be shocked to see that they were in the FBI's pocket when this all shakes out.
I guess I don't understand how lying to the FBI is "taking one for the team" or serves to "double cross" the FBI.
Not trying to be snarky just really am trying to understand the thought process.
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I still don't know what the black sky significance is. Do maqas think he was throwing out q lingo during an fbi interview?
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https://twitter.com/JosephJFlynn1/status/1257685349993721856
Hidden in plain sight...
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/mccabe-reveals-the-one-thing-that-stands-out-from-his-fateful-call-with-flynn.amp
From Feb 19, 2019
In his new book, former FBI deputy director Andrew McCabe offers extensive new details of investigators' fateful January 2017 interview with former national security adviser Michael Flynn at the White House -- a breezy conversation which began, according to McCabe, with all the urgency of a "playdate."
McCabe wrote in “The Threat,” released Tuesday, that "one thing [Flynn] said stands out in my memory" -- namely that "when I told him that people were curious" about his conversations with the then-Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak, Flynn replied, "You know what I said, because you guys were probably listening."
Without confirming Flynn's suspicions, McCabe wrote: "I had to wonder, as events played out: If you thought we were listening, why would you lie?" (A Washington Post article published one day before Flynn's White House interview with the agents, citing FBI sources, publicly revealed that the FBI had wiretapped Flynn's calls and cleared him of any criminal conduct.)
According to McCabe, the interview was "very odd" because "it seemed like [Flynn] was telling the truth" to the two agents who interviewed him, including since-fired FBI agent Peter Strzok. Flynn, the interviewing agents told McCabe, "had a very good recollection of events, which he related chronologically and lucidly," did not appear to be "nervous or sweating," and did not look "side to side" -- all of which would have been "behavioral signs of deception."
McCabe wrote that Flynn seemed "completely normal" -- even when, on three occasions, Flynn looked at the window and told agents, "What a beautiful black sky."
McCabe maintained that Flynn made that memorable comment three times -- first, at "noon," then an hour later, and then one more time shortly after that. However, McCabe's timeline in the book appeared to contradict the sentencing memorandum filed late last year by Flynn's attorneys, citing government documents.
HOLY crap!!! Did the rough ridin' DNC get played in the most epic way or what?!?!?!?!? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Read this thread:
https://twitter.com/Beer_Parade/status/1257778151280840705
Checkmate, muthafukkaz.
:alleyoop:
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https://twitter.com/JosephJFlynn1/status/1257685349993721856
Hidden in plain sight...
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/mccabe-reveals-the-one-thing-that-stands-out-from-his-fateful-call-with-flynn.amp
From Feb 19, 2019
In his new book, former FBI deputy director Andrew McCabe offers extensive new details of investigators' fateful January 2017 interview with former national security adviser Michael Flynn at the White House -- a breezy conversation which began, according to McCabe, with all the urgency of a "playdate."
McCabe wrote in “The Threat,” released Tuesday, that "one thing [Flynn] said stands out in my memory" -- namely that "when I told him that people were curious" about his conversations with the then-Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak, Flynn replied, "You know what I said, because you guys were probably listening."
Without confirming Flynn's suspicions, McCabe wrote: "I had to wonder, as events played out: If you thought we were listening, why would you lie?" (A Washington Post article published one day before Flynn's White House interview with the agents, citing FBI sources, publicly revealed that the FBI had wiretapped Flynn's calls and cleared him of any criminal conduct.)
According to McCabe, the interview was "very odd" because "it seemed like [Flynn] was telling the truth" to the two agents who interviewed him, including since-fired FBI agent Peter Strzok. Flynn, the interviewing agents told McCabe, "had a very good recollection of events, which he related chronologically and lucidly," did not appear to be "nervous or sweating," and did not look "side to side" -- all of which would have been "behavioral signs of deception."
McCabe wrote that Flynn seemed "completely normal" -- even when, on three occasions, Flynn looked at the window and told agents, "What a beautiful black sky."
McCabe maintained that Flynn made that memorable comment three times -- first, at "noon," then an hour later, and then one more time shortly after that. However, McCabe's timeline in the book appeared to contradict the sentencing memorandum filed late last year by Flynn's attorneys, citing government documents.
HOLY crap!!! Did the rough ridin' DNC get played in the most epic way or what?!?!?!?!? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Read this thread:
https://twitter.com/Beer_Parade/status/1257778151280840705
Checkmate, muthafukkaz.
:alleyoop:
Are you capable of critical thinking and/or do you actually fact check anything you read and choose to believe? That "poem" is a song that was JUST WRITTEN by this Wilde fellow in honor of Flynn. He's currently trying to raise funds to produce the song for inclusion on his forthcoming CD. LOL. So I ask you, how is it that Flynn was referencing a "poem" that would not be written until more than 3 years later?
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Hey, I'm not saying everything that gets put out there is 100% true, but you can't deny there is overwhelming evidence mounting, and soon (God willing) we will all see the truth!
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Ok... I jumped the gun. Didn't fact check the "poem/lyrics".
I stand by the rest of it. General Flynn played them like a fiddle.
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By lying and getting fired?
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Hey, I'm not saying everything that gets put out there is 100% true, but you can't deny there is overwhelming evidence mounting, and soon (God willing) we will all see the truth!
It looks like @Beer_Parade deleted the tweet claiming it was an old poem... My bad for not fact checking that.
https://twitter.com/Beer_Parade/status/1257787716596621323
By lying and getting fired?
Yep, exactly. He knew it was a set up and intentionally double crossed them to play the long game.
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Ironclad logic, I have to say.
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Hey, I'm not saying everything that gets put out there is 100% true, but you can't deny there is overwhelming evidence mounting, and soon (God willing) we will all see the truth!
It looks like @Beer_Parade deleted the tweet claiming it was an old poem... My bad for not fact checking that.
https://twitter.com/Beer_Parade/status/1257787716596621323
By lying and getting fired?
Yep, exactly. He knew it was a set up and intentionally double crossed them to play the long game.
:confused: :confused: :confused:
ok...
either you are just rough ridin' with us or are incredible stupid
either way i am out
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https://twitter.com/tomfitton/status/1257794456054566916
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https://twitter.com/tomfitton/status/1257794456054566916
You didn't even read it, did you? The last paragraph:
Nevertheless, in the interest of countering the misinformation campaign underlying this request, we are prepared on this occasion to provide the Committees access to the records responsive to this request.
Translation: This request is partisan bullshit and we shouldn't have to do this, but we have nothing to hide, so go ahead and release the records, Mr. National Archives.
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UsefulPub_Idiot heroes Lisa Page and Peter Strzok sitting in jail right now. Looks like the tables have turned on UsefulPub_Idiot Nation.
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https://twitter.com/tomfitton/status/1257794456054566916
You didn't even read it, did you? The last paragraph:
Nevertheless, in the interest of countering the misinformation campaign underlying this request, we are prepared on this occasion to provide the Committees access to the records responsive to this request.
Translation: This request is partisan bullshit and we shouldn't have to do this, but we have nothing to hide, so go ahead and release the records, Mr. National Archives.
:lol: :lol:
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https://twitter.com/tomfitton/status/1257794456054566916
You didn't even read it, did you? The last paragraph:
Nevertheless, in the interest of countering the misinformation campaign underlying this request, we are prepared on this occasion to provide the Committees access to the records responsive to this request.
Translation: This request is partisan bullshit and we shouldn't have to do this, but we have nothing to hide, so go ahead and release the records, Mr. National Archives.
He knew and he’s mumped. I agree.
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https://twitter.com/ktbenner/status/1258469415470989323
Q called it!
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yeah, trump's been hinting at that for days. essentially a pardon.
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Awesome
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:popcorn:
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https://twitter.com/jgeltzer/status/1258462975146504192
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Warning sign?!?! About what?!?! :lol: :lol:
https://twitter.com/catturd2/status/1258474146092257280
:driving:
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Lol, dax likes to post that catturd guy too
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Lol, dax likes to post that catturd guy too
Link??
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I certainly hope Renegade wasn't involved with this travesty... :sdeek:
https://twitter.com/ByronYork/status/1258490130211442690
:lol:
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https://twitter.com/jgeltzer/status/1258462975146504192
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lmao
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was bubbles always maga and i never noticed?
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I've never known and still don't know who Flynn is. Is this more about both sides being mad that the other was doing whatever they wanted in trying to win an election?
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was bubbles always maga and i never noticed?
i think it's healthy for russiagaters to have their noses rubbed in it
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the whole thing was a farce and people are still adding to it!
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man, katdaddy is an authentic prairie populist and bubbles is maga. what a world.
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maybe i'll effortpost sometime and tell you what's changed since 2013
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Do it now bubbles you coward
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can't, have to cook dinner
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can't, have to cook dinner
At an old folks' home?
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I've never known and still don't know who Flynn is. Is this more about both sides being mad that the other was doing whatever they wanted in trying to win an election?
He pleaded guilty to a charge of lying to the FBI. DOJ now wants to drop that charge.
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can't, have to cook dinner
At an old folks' home?
i live in an up and coming neighborhood on the east coast, thank you
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I've never known and still don't know who Flynn is. Is this more about both sides being mad that the other was doing whatever they wanted in trying to win an election?
He pleaded guilty to a charge of lying to the FBI. DOJ now wants to drop that charge.
"What a beautiful black sky...." He double crossed them, chum. He knew it was a set up from the jump and played the long game to help to bring down the conspirators. Absolute GENIUS.
God Bless America!!
:kstatriot:
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We can add the "he pled guilty" narrative to the growing pile of linear thinking Useful Idiot talking points that have piled up like cord wood over the last 3 years.
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https://twitter.com/genflynn/status/1258495318490054661
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I've never known and still don't know who Flynn is. Is this more about both sides being mad that the other was doing whatever they wanted in trying to win an election?
He pleaded guilty to a charge of lying to the FBI. DOJ now wants to drop that charge.
What I found indicates the lying was about Trump campaign/Russia stuff from the election. :dunno:
Lol that lying to the FBI is a crime. Unless you're the victim or innocent witness, you have to already be involved in some way to some dirt if you're being asked things by the FBI.
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I've never known and still don't know who Flynn is. Is this more about both sides being mad that the other was doing whatever they wanted in trying to win an election?
He pleaded guilty to a charge of lying to the FBI. DOJ now wants to drop that charge.
What I found indicates the lying was about Trump campaign/Russia stuff from the election. :dunno:
Lol that lying to the FBI is a crime. Unless you're the victim or innocent witness, you have to already be involved in some way to some dirt if you're being asked things by the FBI.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EXcQuUJXgAESZBM?format=jpg&name=large)
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I've never known and still don't know who Flynn is. Is this more about both sides being mad that the other was doing whatever they wanted in trying to win an election?
He pleaded guilty to a charge of lying to the FBI. DOJ now wants to drop that charge.
What I found indicates the lying was about Trump campaign/Russia stuff from the election. :dunno:
Lol that lying to the FBI is a crime. Unless you're the victim or innocent witness, you have to already be involved in some way to some dirt if you're being asked things by the FBI.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EXcQuUJXgAESZBM?format=jpg&name=large)
Yeah, but even beyond this political crap, the crime of lying is lol.
FBI: Did you commit this crime we're investigating?
Criminal: (thinking to self) eff
Criminal: (to FBI) Nope?
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I've never known and still don't know who Flynn is. Is this more about both sides being mad that the other was doing whatever they wanted in trying to win an election?
He pleaded guilty to a charge of lying to the FBI. DOJ now wants to drop that charge.
What I found indicates the lying was about Trump campaign/Russia stuff from the election. :dunno:
Lol that lying to the FBI is a crime. Unless you're the victim or innocent witness, you have to already be involved in some way to some dirt if you're being asked things by the FBI.
There was a lot of Russia stuff. I think it would be a stretch to say this was about elections stuff.
Violation: 18 U.S.C. § 1001 (False Statements)
https://www.justice.gov/file/1015126/download
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chump1 is still on the case! :lol: :lol: :lol:
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chump1 is still on the case! :lol: :lol: :lol:
Lol corruption
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chump1 is still on the case! :lol: :lol: :lol:
Lol corruption
lol a tremendous diversion of energy from anything that trump and co. have actually done
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it's all bullshit and you'd realize it if it wasn't pushed 24/7 in 2017 by the NYT, law profs, and some deep state idealists. you guys should be upset at them.
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I've never known and still don't know who Flynn is. Is this more about both sides being mad that the other was doing whatever they wanted in trying to win an election?
He pleaded guilty to a charge of lying to the FBI. DOJ now wants to drop that charge.
What I found indicates the lying was about Trump campaign/Russia stuff from the election. :dunno:
Lol that lying to the FBI is a crime. Unless you're the victim or innocent witness, you have to already be involved in some way to some dirt if you're being asked things by the FBI.
There was a lot of Russia stuff. I think it would be a stretch to say this was about elections stuff.
Violation: 18 U.S.C. § 1001 (False Statements)
https://www.justice.gov/file/1015126/download
Got it. In the context of this:
1. The defendant, MICHAEL T. FLYNN, who served as a surrogate and national
security advisor for the presidential campaign of Donald J. Trump ("Campaign"), as a senior
member of President-Elect Trump's Transition Team ("Presidential Transition Team"), and as
the National Security Advisor to President Trump, made materially false statements and
omissions during an interview with the Federal Bureau of Investigation ("FBI") on January 24,
2017, in Washington, D.C. At the time of the interview, the FBI had an open investigation into
the Government of Russia's ("Russia") efforts to interfere in the 2016 presidential election,
including the nature of any links between individuals associated with the Campaign and Russia,
and whether there was any coordination between the Campaign and Russia's efforts.
2. FL YNN's false statements and omissions impeded and otherwise had a material
impact on the FBI's ongoing investigation into the existence of any links or coordination
between individuals associated with the Campaign and Russia's efforts to interfere with the 2016
presidential election.
Flynn lied about talking to Russia about how they'd respond to sanctions (for election cheating) against them, as well as about an egypt thing and a turkey thing.
The problem remains that america elected trump.
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I've never known and still don't know who Flynn is. Is this more about both sides being mad that the other was doing whatever they wanted in trying to win an election?
He pleaded guilty to a charge of lying to the FBI. DOJ now wants to drop that charge.
What I found indicates the lying was about Trump campaign/Russia stuff from the election. :dunno:
Lol that lying to the FBI is a crime. Unless you're the victim or innocent witness, you have to already be involved in some way to some dirt if you're being asked things by the FBI.
There was a lot of Russia stuff. I think it would be a stretch to say this was about elections stuff.
Violation: 18 U.S.C. § 1001 (False Statements)
https://www.justice.gov/file/1015126/download
Got it. In the context of this:
1. The defendant, MICHAEL T. FLYNN, who served as a surrogate and national
security advisor for the presidential campaign of Donald J. Trump ("Campaign"), as a senior
member of President-Elect Trump's Transition Team ("Presidential Transition Team"), and as
the National Security Advisor to President Trump, made materially false statements and
omissions during an interview with the Federal Bureau of Investigation ("FBI") on January 24,
2017, in Washington, D.C. At the time of the interview, the FBI had an open investigation into
the Government of Russia's ("Russia") efforts to interfere in the 2016 presidential election,
including the nature of any links between individuals associated with the Campaign and Russia,
and whether there was any coordination between the Campaign and Russia's efforts.
2. FL YNN's false statements and omissions impeded and otherwise had a material
impact on the FBI's ongoing investigation into the existence of any links or coordination
between individuals associated with the Campaign and Russia's efforts to interfere with the 2016
presidential election.
Flynn lied about talking to Russia about how they'd respond to sanctions (for election cheating) against them, as well as about an egypt thing and a turkey thing.
The problem remains that america elected trump.
That AND the fact that Trump was elected despite the DNC actually colluding with Russia, Google, Facebook and Twitter to rig the election.
So, there's still that to contend with in the coming weeks/months.
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I've never known and still don't know who Flynn is. Is this more about both sides being mad that the other was doing whatever they wanted in trying to win an election?
He pleaded guilty to a charge of lying to the FBI. DOJ now wants to drop that charge.
What I found indicates the lying was about Trump campaign/Russia stuff from the election. :dunno:
Lol that lying to the FBI is a crime. Unless you're the victim or innocent witness, you have to already be involved in some way to some dirt if you're being asked things by the FBI.
There was a lot of Russia stuff. I think it would be a stretch to say this was about elections stuff.
Violation: 18 U.S.C. § 1001 (False Statements)
https://www.justice.gov/file/1015126/download
Got it. In the context of this:
1. The defendant, MICHAEL T. FLYNN, who served as a surrogate and national
security advisor for the presidential campaign of Donald J. Trump ("Campaign"), as a senior
member of President-Elect Trump's Transition Team ("Presidential Transition Team"), and as
the National Security Advisor to President Trump, made materially false statements and
omissions during an interview with the Federal Bureau of Investigation ("FBI") on January 24,
2017, in Washington, D.C. At the time of the interview, the FBI had an open investigation into
the Government of Russia's ("Russia") efforts to interfere in the 2016 presidential election,
including the nature of any links between individuals associated with the Campaign and Russia,
and whether there was any coordination between the Campaign and Russia's efforts.
2. FL YNN's false statements and omissions impeded and otherwise had a material
impact on the FBI's ongoing investigation into the existence of any links or coordination
between individuals associated with the Campaign and Russia's efforts to interfere with the 2016
presidential election.
Flynn lied about talking to Russia about how they'd respond to sanctions (for election cheating) against them, as well as about an egypt thing and a turkey thing.
The problem remains that america elected trump.
That AND the fact that Trump was elected despite the DNC actually colluding with Russia, Google, Facebook and Twitter to rig the election.
So, there's still that to contend with in the coming weeks/months.
No, I don't care about any of that either. I'm only bothered about voting americans.
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The problem remains that america elected trump.
No, I don't care about any of that either. I'm only bothered about voting americans.
More Americans voted for Clinton.
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The problem remains that america elected trump.
No, I don't care about any of that either. I'm only bothered about voting americans.
More Americans voted for Clinton.
omfg :lol:
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I know no one cares, but this is a good point.
https://twitter.com/AshaRangappa_/status/1258493374623109128
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The problem remains that america elected trump.
No, I don't care about any of that either. I'm only bothered about voting americans.
More Americans voted for Clinton.
The whole trash can narrowed it down to those two.
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I know no one cares, but this is a good point.
https://twitter.com/AshaRangappa_/status/1258493374623109128
:lol: :lol: :lol:
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Yeah, but even beyond this political crap, the crime of lying is lol.
FBI: Did you commit this crime we're investigating?
Criminal: (thinking to self) eff
Criminal: (to FBI) Nope?
Have always agreed on this point. It's double stupid because they can lie to you
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The problem remains that america elected trump.
No, I don't care about any of that either. I'm only bothered about voting americans.
More Americans voted for Clinton.
omfg :lol:
I had the exact same reaction... She did manage to grab the illegal alien and deceased votes, I'll grant him that.
Surely there's a participation laying around somewhere, chum.
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The problem remains that america elected trump.
No, I don't care about any of that either. I'm only bothered about voting americans.
More Americans voted for Clinton.
omfg :lol:
I had the exact same reaction... She did manage to grab the illegal alien and deceased votes, I'll grant him that.
Surely there's a participation laying around somewhere, chum.
Yeah, the more votes thing is a dumb talking point. You can argue the merits of the EC all you want, but you play to win the game as is. Trump's campaign focused on kicking ass in BG states to earn EC points, while Hillary (worst candidate in memory) didn't do crap in them.
It's akin to Trump bombing three's all game and Hillary playing like the 3-point line didn't exist, then her and her fans bitching because they actually made "more baskets."
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Great analogy.
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Thanks, guys. In the future, I will be sure not to try to make that point I was not trying to make.
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Thanks, guys. In the future, I will be sure not to try to make that point I was not trying to make.
i understood the context but you've committed too many sins to forgive at this point.
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Renegade has a problem with the Flynndication...
https://news.yahoo.com/obama-irule-of-law-michael-flynn-case-014121045.html
Will be interesting to see how this plays out for him.
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Obama is a very thoughtful person.
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He better be thinking about how to beat a treason charge...
:lol:
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Question for the legal scholars on the board. Is there anything stopping trump from telling Barr to charge Obama with treason? We know that trump is all in with maga and q, and with seemingly all of them calling for Obama to be charged, why wouldn't they do it? Are there any tangible repercussions that would deter trump and Barr from charging anyone with anything they want to? They don't need a court order to bring charges, correct?
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Question for the legal scholars on the board. Is there anything stopping trump from telling Barr to charge Obama with treason? We know that trump is all in with maga and q, and with seemingly all of them calling for Obama to be charged, why wouldn't they do it? Are there any tangible repercussions that would deter trump and Barr from charging anyone with anything they want to? They don't need a court order to bring charges, correct?
Well, Obama would have to be indicted by a grand jury. Quite unlikely.
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Question for the legal scholars on the board. Is there anything stopping trump from telling Barr to charge Obama with treason? We know that trump is all in with maga and q, and with seemingly all of them calling for Obama to be charged, why wouldn't they do it? Are there any tangible repercussions that would deter trump and Barr from charging anyone with anything they want to? They don't need a court order to bring charges, correct?
Well, Obama would have to be indicted by a grand jury. Quite unlikely.
Just clarifying, but there has to be a grand jury indictment for the AG to simply charge someone for anything or is this just a law for a treason charge?
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Certainly all these Qs and MAGAs have taken the grand jury indictment angle into account when espousing their theory. It seems to reason that they think Barr and trump won't need a grand jury indictment.
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Question for the legal scholars on the board. Is there anything stopping trump from telling Barr to charge Obama with treason? We know that trump is all in with maga and q, and with seemingly all of them calling for Obama to be charged, why wouldn't they do it? Are there any tangible repercussions that would deter trump and Barr from charging anyone with anything they want to? They don't need a court order to bring charges, correct?
Well, Obama would have to be indicted by a grand jury. Quite unlikely.
Just clarifying, but there has to be a grand jury indictment for the AG to simply charge someone for anything or is this just a law for a treason charge?
The Constitution sets certain boundaries regarding treason. For example, the prosecution must have two witnesses to the same overt act of treason. However, all federal crimes are enabled by statute. Treason is a defined federal crime, and the enabling statute conforms to the Constitutional requirements. To charge Obama--a private citizen--with treason, he would need to be indicted by a grand jury. I don't see anyway around that.
Obama is a private American citizen. He has due process rights, and that includes probable cause to arrest and detain, and the requirement of a grand jury indictment if not in custody.
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Question for the legal scholars on the board. Is there anything stopping trump from telling Barr to charge Obama with treason? We know that trump is all in with maga and q, and with seemingly all of them calling for Obama to be charged, why wouldn't they do it? Are there any tangible repercussions that would deter trump and Barr from charging anyone with anything they want to? They don't need a court order to bring charges, correct?
Well, Obama would have to be indicted by a grand jury. Quite unlikely.
Just clarifying, but there has to be a grand jury indictment for the AG to simply charge someone for anything or is this just a law for a treason charge?
No. The AG can charge today and you can get a grand jury to "indict a bologna sandwich" - dax/kaz W
And, if what Q/bqqk claims about obama is their angle, they would be huge cowards to rely on only the constitutional crime of treason. They apparently have wire fraud, RICO, mail fraud etc.
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Obama Indictment Watch
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Question for the legal scholars on the board. Is there anything stopping trump from telling Barr to charge Obama with treason? We know that trump is all in with maga and q, and with seemingly all of them calling for Obama to be charged, why wouldn't they do it? Are there any tangible repercussions that would deter trump and Barr from charging anyone with anything they want to? They don't need a court order to bring charges, correct?
Well, Obama would have to be indicted by a grand jury. Quite unlikely.
Just clarifying, but there has to be a grand jury indictment for the AG to simply charge someone for anything or is this just a law for a treason charge?
The Constitution sets certain boundaries regarding treason. For example, the prosecution must have two witnesses to the same overt act of treason. However, all federal crimes are enabled by statute. Treason is a defined federal crime, and the enabling statute conforms to the Constitutional requirements. To charge Obama--a private citizen--with treason, he would need to be indicted by a grand jury. I don't see anyway around that.
Obama is a private American citizen. He has due process rights, and that includes probable cause to arrest and detain, and the requirement of a grand jury indictment if not in custody.
I'll ask another way. Let's say trump sees one of these tweets saying that Obama is being charged on Monday and he wants to make that happen. Isn't that as easy as Barr using the DOJ to make the charge, he doesn't need a judge or a third party to literally draw up a charge? He's publicly talked about pardoning defendants while trials are literally happening, clearly rule of law means nothing to this admin. What's the check and balance for a president and an AG circumventing the criminal justice system for malicious prosecution?
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Question for the legal scholars on the board. Is there anything stopping trump from telling Barr to charge Obama with treason? We know that trump is all in with maga and q, and with seemingly all of them calling for Obama to be charged, why wouldn't they do it? Are there any tangible repercussions that would deter trump and Barr from charging anyone with anything they want to? They don't need a court order to bring charges, correct?
Well, Obama would have to be indicted by a grand jury. Quite unlikely.
Just clarifying, but there has to be a grand jury indictment for the AG to simply charge someone for anything or is this just a law for a treason charge?
The Constitution sets certain boundaries regarding treason. For example, the prosecution must have two witnesses to the same overt act of treason. However, all federal crimes are enabled by statute. Treason is a defined federal crime, and the enabling statute conforms to the Constitutional requirements. To charge Obama--a private citizen--with treason, he would need to be indicted by a grand jury. I don't see anyway around that.
Obama is a private American citizen. He has due process rights, and that includes probable cause to arrest and detain, and the requirement of a grand jury indictment if not in custody.
I'll ask another way. Let's say trump sees one of these tweets saying that Obama is being charged on Monday and he wants to make that happen. Isn't that as easy as Barr using the DOJ to make the charge, he doesn't need a judge or a third party to literally draw up a charge? He's publicly talked about pardoning defendants while trials are literally happening, clearly rule of law means nothing to this admin. What's the check and balance for a president and an AG circumventing the criminal justice system for malicious prosecution?
Could and can charge Obama and Hillary yesterday. He ran on "lock her up"
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Thank you, I know the charges wouldn't stick, just wondering if it's possible. There's no depth to the depravity of this administration. Whomever has talked him out of doing this will eventually lose out. I don't know if it's going to happen next week, maybe it will, he'll make dreams happen, but I think it's possible that he'll do it in late November if he loses the election.
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Question for the legal scholars on the board. Is there anything stopping trump from telling Barr to charge Obama with treason? We know that trump is all in with maga and q, and with seemingly all of them calling for Obama to be charged, why wouldn't they do it? Are there any tangible repercussions that would deter trump and Barr from charging anyone with anything they want to? They don't need a court order to bring charges, correct?
Well, Obama would have to be indicted by a grand jury. Quite unlikely.
Just clarifying, but there has to be a grand jury indictment for the AG to simply charge someone for anything or is this just a law for a treason charge?
The Constitution sets certain boundaries regarding treason. For example, the prosecution must have two witnesses to the same overt act of treason. However, all federal crimes are enabled by statute. Treason is a defined federal crime, and the enabling statute conforms to the Constitutional requirements. To charge Obama--a private citizen--with treason, he would need to be indicted by a grand jury. I don't see anyway around that.
Obama is a private American citizen. He has due process rights, and that includes probable cause to arrest and detain, and the requirement of a grand jury indictment if not in custody.
I'll ask another way. Let's say trump sees one of these tweets saying that Obama is being charged on Monday and he wants to make that happen. Isn't that as easy as Barr using the DOJ to make the charge, he doesn't need a judge or a third party to literally draw up a charge? He's publicly talked about pardoning defendants while trials are literally happening, clearly rule of law means nothing to this admin. What's the check and balance for a president and an AG circumventing the criminal justice system for malicious prosecution?
I'm a little over my skis, as I don't normally dabble in criminal law, but what do you mean by "draw up a charge"? Everyone has due process rights (including probable cause to be arrested in the first place), and among other things that means you can only be detained for a short period of time before having a bond hearing (48-72 hours, I think), at which point any bogus stuff like you're describing should be sniffed out in open court. Neither Trump nor anyone else could cause the arrest of a former president on trumped up charges without facing extreme scrutiny, backlash, and ridicule. It would be political suicide, and it wouldn't take long.
Unless an officer personally witnesses the "treason" (or other unlikely exigent circumstances), you would need an arrest warrant signed by a judge in order to detain Obama. And in federal court, that requires an indictment by a grand jury.
So, the checks are (1) the federal judiciary, and (2) political consequences.
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Question for the legal scholars on the board. Is there anything stopping trump from telling Barr to charge Obama with treason? We know that trump is all in with maga and q, and with seemingly all of them calling for Obama to be charged, why wouldn't they do it? Are there any tangible repercussions that would deter trump and Barr from charging anyone with anything they want to? They don't need a court order to bring charges, correct?
Well, Obama would have to be indicted by a grand jury. Quite unlikely.
Just clarifying, but there has to be a grand jury indictment for the AG to simply charge someone for anything or is this just a law for a treason charge?
The Constitution sets certain boundaries regarding treason. For example, the prosecution must have two witnesses to the same overt act of treason. However, all federal crimes are enabled by statute. Treason is a defined federal crime, and the enabling statute conforms to the Constitutional requirements. To charge Obama--a private citizen--with treason, he would need to be indicted by a grand jury. I don't see anyway around that.
Obama is a private American citizen. He has due process rights, and that includes probable cause to arrest and detain, and the requirement of a grand jury indictment if not in custody.
I'll ask another way. Let's say trump sees one of these tweets saying that Obama is being charged on Monday and he wants to make that happen. Isn't that as easy as Barr using the DOJ to make the charge, he doesn't need a judge or a third party to literally draw up a charge? He's publicly talked about pardoning defendants while trials are literally happening, clearly rule of law means nothing to this admin. What's the check and balance for a president and an AG circumventing the criminal justice system for malicious prosecution?
I'm a little over my skis, as I don't normally dabble in criminal law, but what do you mean by "draw up a charge"? Everyone has due process rights (including probable cause to be arrested in the first place), and among other things that means you can only be detained for a short period of time before having a bond hearing (48-72 hours, I think), at which point any bogus stuff like you're describing should be sniffed out in open court. Neither Trump nor anyone else could cause the arrest of a former president on trumped up charges without facing extreme scrutiny, backlash, and ridicule. It would be political suicide, and it wouldn't take long.
Unless an officer personally witnesses the "treason" (or other unlikely exigent circumstances), you would need an arrest warrant signed by a judge in order to detain Obama. And in federal court, that requires an indictment by a grand jury.
So, the checks are (1) the federal judiciary, and (2) political consequences.
I think his question was can Trump do it if he is as billion % certain as he, Q and Fox are that there was the insanely specific crimes alleged? The answer is yes, quite easily. As I said, treason is not all they are alleging.
Trump can very legally direct that Barr charge Hillary and obama.
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Question for the legal scholars on the board. Is there anything stopping trump from telling Barr to charge Obama with treason? We know that trump is all in with maga and q, and with seemingly all of them calling for Obama to be charged, why wouldn't they do it? Are there any tangible repercussions that would deter trump and Barr from charging anyone with anything they want to? They don't need a court order to bring charges, correct?
Well, Obama would have to be indicted by a grand jury. Quite unlikely.
Just clarifying, but there has to be a grand jury indictment for the AG to simply charge someone for anything or is this just a law for a treason charge?
The Constitution sets certain boundaries regarding treason. For example, the prosecution must have two witnesses to the same overt act of treason. However, all federal crimes are enabled by statute. Treason is a defined federal crime, and the enabling statute conforms to the Constitutional requirements. To charge Obama--a private citizen--with treason, he would need to be indicted by a grand jury. I don't see anyway around that.
Obama is a private American citizen. He has due process rights, and that includes probable cause to arrest and detain, and the requirement of a grand jury indictment if not in custody.
I'll ask another way. Let's say trump sees one of these tweets saying that Obama is being charged on Monday and he wants to make that happen. Isn't that as easy as Barr using the DOJ to make the charge, he doesn't need a judge or a third party to literally draw up a charge? He's publicly talked about pardoning defendants while trials are literally happening, clearly rule of law means nothing to this admin. What's the check and balance for a president and an AG circumventing the criminal justice system for malicious prosecution?
I'm a little over my skis, as I don't normally dabble in criminal law, but what do you mean by "draw up a charge"? Everyone has due process rights (including probable cause to be arrested in the first place), and among other things that means you can only be detained for a short period of time before having a bond hearing (48-72 hours, I think), at which point any bogus stuff like you're describing should be sniffed out in open court. Neither Trump nor anyone else could cause the arrest of a former president on trumped up charges without facing extreme scrutiny, backlash, and ridicule. It would be political suicide, and it wouldn't take long.
Unless an officer personally witnesses the "treason" (or other unlikely exigent circumstances), you would need an arrest warrant signed by a judge in order to detain Obama. And in federal court, that requires an indictment by a grand jury.
So, the checks are (1) the federal judiciary, and (2) political consequences.
I think his question was can Trump do it if he is as billion % certain as he, Q and Fox are that there was the insanely specific crimes alleged? The answer is yes, quite easily. As I said, treason is not all they are alleging.
Trump can very legally direct that Barr charge Hillary and Trump.
But that means nothing.
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I dunno, maybe this would be a good time to start following some ITK legal experts on the twitters &/or non mainstream media... or, God forbid, Q itself. Not QAnons.... Q.
I can assure you that after doing tens of hours of research in late March and early April, our DOJ etc has EVERYTHING they need to bring charges against Renegade for treason against the United States of America and our beautiful flag. 🇺🇸
I know everyone wants to know the exact date, but all we know for sure is that it will happen before the election and the trial will take place in 2021.
If you aren’t using multiple sources from left, right and independent reporting to figure all this out, you’re doing yourself a great disservice and just making yourself look foolish with the head in the sand posts about what’s actually taken place since 2016.
HTH
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lmao
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I put this in the Trump Presidency thread originally as I felt it fits better ther, so sorry for the cross post.
But the long thread beginning at the tweet below lays it all out. Trump hasn’t had a vendetta against Renegade from the start... it was the other way around and the efforts by the past administration to bring down a duly elected sitting president is by definition treason.
https://twitter.com/drawandstrike/status/1258395757872386048
Keep laughing if you want. At some point, you’ll have to face the facts of what occurred, the evidence that backs it up and watching the consequences in the most epic event I. American history. Seriously, what a time to be alive!
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Thank you, I will
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I dunno, maybe this would be a good time to start following some ITK legal experts on the twitters &/or non mainstream media... or, God forbid, Q itself. Not QAnons.... Q.
I can assure you that after doing tens of hours of research in late March and early April, our DOJ etc has EVERYTHING they need to bring charges against Renegade for treason against the United States of America and our beautiful flag.
I know everyone wants to know the exact date, but all we know for sure is that it will happen before the election and the trial will take place in 2021.
If you aren’t using multiple sources from left, right and independent reporting to figure all this out, you’re doing yourself a great disservice and just making yourself look foolish with the head in the sand posts about what’s actually taken place since 2016.
HTH
I will bet you a $500 donation to the FattyFund that Obama will not be charged with treason prior to the first Wednesday of November 2020. Deal?
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I dunno, maybe this would be a good time to start following some ITK legal experts on the twitters &/or non mainstream media... or, God forbid, Q itself. Not QAnons.... Q.
I can assure you that after doing tens of hours of research in late March and early April, our DOJ etc has EVERYTHING they need to bring charges against Renegade for treason against the United States of America and our beautiful flag.
I know everyone wants to know the exact date, but all we know for sure is that it will happen before the election and the trial will take place in 2021.
If you aren’t using multiple sources from left, right and independent reporting to figure all this out, you’re doing yourself a great disservice and just making yourself look foolish with the head in the sand posts about what’s actually taken place since 2016.
HTH
I will bet you a $500 donation to the FattyFund that Obama will not be charged with treason prior to the first Wednesday of November 2020. Deal?
Let’s do this... “loser” donates $1k and “winner” donates $500 and you’re on.
Lemme know.
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I dunno, maybe this would be a good time to start following some ITK legal experts on the twitters &/or non mainstream media... or, God forbid, Q itself. Not QAnons.... Q.
I can assure you that after doing tens of hours of research in late March and early April, our DOJ etc has EVERYTHING they need to bring charges against Renegade for treason against the United States of America and our beautiful flag.
I know everyone wants to know the exact date, but all we know for sure is that it will happen before the election and the trial will take place in 2021.
If you aren’t using multiple sources from left, right and independent reporting to figure all this out, you’re doing yourself a great disservice and just making yourself look foolish with the head in the sand posts about what’s actually taken place since 2016.
HTH
I will bet you a $500 donation to the FattyFund that Obama will not be charged with treason prior to the first Wednesday of November 2020. Deal?
Let’s do this... “loser” donates $1k and “winner” donates $500 and you’re on.
Lemme know.
No thanks. I’ll continue with my typical annual donations to the FattyFund. I want you to pay extra for constantly spouting this nonsense.
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Lack of confidence in your position is understood. Carry on.
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If you think it would be political suicide for Trump to try to arrest Obama then I can only assume you live in an alternate reality.
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If you think it would be political suicide for Trump to try to arrest Obama then I can only assume you live in an alternate reality.
Couldn't agree more.
:cheers:
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Question for the legal scholars on the board. Is there anything stopping trump from telling Barr to charge Obama with treason? We know that trump is all in with maga and q, and with seemingly all of them calling for Obama to be charged, why wouldn't they do it? Are there any tangible repercussions that would deter trump and Barr from charging anyone with anything they want to? They don't need a court order to bring charges, correct?
Well, Obama would have to be indicted by a grand jury. Quite unlikely.
Just clarifying, but there has to be a grand jury indictment for the AG to simply charge someone for anything or is this just a law for a treason charge?
The Constitution sets certain boundaries regarding treason. For example, the prosecution must have two witnesses to the same overt act of treason. However, all federal crimes are enabled by statute. Treason is a defined federal crime, and the enabling statute conforms to the Constitutional requirements. To charge Obama--a private citizen--with treason, he would need to be indicted by a grand jury. I don't see anyway around that.
Obama is a private American citizen. He has due process rights, and that includes probable cause to arrest and detain, and the requirement of a grand jury indictment if not in custody.
I'll ask another way. Let's say trump sees one of these tweets saying that Obama is being charged on Monday and he wants to make that happen. Isn't that as easy as Barr using the DOJ to make the charge, he doesn't need a judge or a third party to literally draw up a charge? He's publicly talked about pardoning defendants while trials are literally happening, clearly rule of law means nothing to this admin. What's the check and balance for a president and an AG circumventing the criminal justice system for malicious prosecution?
I'm a little over my skis, as I don't normally dabble in criminal law, but what do you mean by "draw up a charge"? Everyone has due process rights (including probable cause to be arrested in the first place), and among other things that means you can only be detained for a short period of time before having a bond hearing (48-72 hours, I think), at which point any bogus stuff like you're describing should be sniffed out in open court. Neither Trump nor anyone else could cause the arrest of a former president on trumped up charges without facing extreme scrutiny, backlash, and ridicule. It would be political suicide, and it wouldn't take long.
Unless an officer personally witnesses the "treason" (or other unlikely exigent circumstances), you would need an arrest warrant signed by a judge in order to detain Obama. And in federal court, that requires an indictment by a grand jury.
So, the checks are (1) the federal judiciary, and (2) political consequences.
I think his question was can Trump do it if he is as billion % certain as he, Q and Fox are that there was the insanely specific crimes alleged? The answer is yes, quite easily. As I said, treason is not all they are alleging.
Trump can very legally direct that Barr charge Hillary and Trump.
But that means nothing.
I answered the question. I can't help people who don't like the answer.
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I will give Flynn credit.
For all of these accusations of incompetent legal counsel. He twice pled guilty of a lesser charge of lying to FBI agents to avoid charges of failing to register as a foreign agent and protect his son from similar legal peril. Only to scheme his way clear of all of it.
Well played sir
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I don't know if it will happen, but Flynn isn't immune from future prosecution. There's also an issue of him working for both Turkey and Trump and who knows what else he was up to.
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Lack of confidence in your position is understood. Carry on.
How about loser can never post on goEMAW again? A full IP ban enforced by the mods. Deal?
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Lack of confidence in your position is understood. Carry on.
How about loser can never post on goEMAW again? A full IP ban enforced by the mods. Deal?
I’ll take that wager with you waks. Lemme know.
Here is a fun thread by someone who seems relatively credible about the law... perhaps our resident law experts can confirm his credentials.
https://twitter.com/jonathanturley/status/1259098515122335750
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Remember when rusty lost a bet on fans and MJ banned him for a month so we all went over to ouhoops.com or whatever to post about GRCOAT with him. And fatty got mad because not all of us had Beasley as our avatar over there so we all changed to Beasley. Lmao.
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I dunno, maybe this would be a good time to start following some ITK legal experts on the twitters &/or non mainstream media... or, God forbid, Q itself. Not QAnons.... Q.
I can assure you that after doing tens of hours of research in late March and early April, our DOJ etc has EVERYTHING they need to bring charges against Renegade for treason against the United States of America and our beautiful flag.
I know everyone wants to know the exact date, but all we know for sure is that it will happen before the election and the trial will take place in 2021.
If you aren’t using multiple sources from left, right and independent reporting to figure all this out, you’re doing yourself a great disservice and just making yourself look foolish with the head in the sand posts about what’s actually taken place since 2016.
HTH
I will bet you a $500 donation to the FattyFund that Obama will not be charged with treason prior to the first Wednesday of November 2020. Deal?
Let’s do this... “loser” donates $1k and “winner” donates $500 and you’re on.
Lemme know.
1k? The Mrs. isn't gonna like that, liar.
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Lack of confidence in your position is understood. Carry on.
How about loser can never post on goEMAW again? A full IP ban enforced by the mods. Deal?
I’ll take that wager with you waks. Lemme know.
:thumbs:
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Remember when rusty lost a bet on fans and MJ banned him for a month so we all went over to ouhoops.com or whatever to post about GRCOAT with him. And fatty got mad because not all of us had Beasley as our avatar over there so we all changed to Beasley. Lmao.
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Gonna be honest...I don't remember steve dave in the GRCOAT days. Did you have a different handle then?
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Remember when rusty lost a bet on fans and MJ banned him for a month so we all went over to ouhoops.com or whatever to post about GRCOAT with him. And fatty got mad because not all of us had Beasley as our avatar over there so we all changed to Beasley. Lmao.
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LOL I can't remember what the bet was for
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I dunno, maybe this would be a good time to start following some ITK legal experts on the twitters &/or non mainstream media... or, God forbid, Q itself. Not QAnons.... Q.
I can assure you that after doing tens of hours of research in late March and early April, our DOJ etc has EVERYTHING they need to bring charges against Renegade for treason against the United States of America and our beautiful flag.
I know everyone wants to know the exact date, but all we know for sure is that it will happen before the election and the trial will take place in 2021.
If you aren’t using multiple sources from left, right and independent reporting to figure all this out, you’re doing yourself a great disservice and just making yourself look foolish with the head in the sand posts about what’s actually taken place since 2016.
HTH
I will bet you a $500 donation to the FattyFund that Obama will not be charged with treason prior to the first Wednesday of November 2020. Deal?
Let’s do this... “loser” donates $1k and “winner” donates $500 and you’re on.
Lemme know.
1k? The Mrs. isn't gonna like that, liar.
I’d have been in for $500 needledick. It’s a rigged game.
:dubious:
@waks :thumbs:
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I dunno, maybe this would be a good time to start following some ITK legal experts on the twitters &/or non mainstream media... or, God forbid, Q itself. Not QAnons.... Q.
I can assure you that after doing tens of hours of research in late March and early April, our DOJ etc has EVERYTHING they need to bring charges against Renegade for treason against the United States of America and our beautiful flag.
I know everyone wants to know the exact date, but all we know for sure is that it will happen before the election and the trial will take place in 2021.
If you aren’t using multiple sources from left, right and independent reporting to figure all this out, you’re doing yourself a great disservice and just making yourself look foolish with the head in the sand posts about what’s actually taken place since 2016.
HTH
I will bet you a $500 donation to the FattyFund that Obama will not be charged with treason prior to the first Wednesday of November 2020. Deal?
Let’s do this... “loser” donates $1k and “winner” donates $500 and you’re on.
Lemme know.
1k? The Mrs. isn't gonna like that, liar.
I’d have been in for $500 needledick. It’s a rigged game.
:dubious:
@waks :thumbs:
remember when Spracne was willing to go double or nothing with you but you threw your wife under the bus when you declined the offer? yeesh!
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Question for the legal scholars on the board. Is there anything stopping trump from telling Barr to charge Obama with treason? We know that trump is all in with maga and q, and with seemingly all of them calling for Obama to be charged, why wouldn't they do it? Are there any tangible repercussions that would deter trump and Barr from charging anyone with anything they want to? They don't need a court order to bring charges, correct?
Well, Obama would have to be indicted by a grand jury. Quite unlikely.
Just clarifying, but there has to be a grand jury indictment for the AG to simply charge someone for anything or is this just a law for a treason charge?
The Constitution sets certain boundaries regarding treason. For example, the prosecution must have two witnesses to the same overt act of treason. However, all federal crimes are enabled by statute. Treason is a defined federal crime, and the enabling statute conforms to the Constitutional requirements. To charge Obama--a private citizen--with treason, he would need to be indicted by a grand jury. I don't see anyway around that.
Obama is a private American citizen. He has due process rights, and that includes probable cause to arrest and detain, and the requirement of a grand jury indictment if not in custody.
I'll ask another way. Let's say trump sees one of these tweets saying that Obama is being charged on Monday and he wants to make that happen. Isn't that as easy as Barr using the DOJ to make the charge, he doesn't need a judge or a third party to literally draw up a charge? He's publicly talked about pardoning defendants while trials are literally happening, clearly rule of law means nothing to this admin. What's the check and balance for a president and an AG circumventing the criminal justice system for malicious prosecution?
I'm a little over my skis, as I don't normally dabble in criminal law, but what do you mean by "draw up a charge"? Everyone has due process rights (including probable cause to be arrested in the first place), and among other things that means you can only be detained for a short period of time before having a bond hearing (48-72 hours, I think), at which point any bogus stuff like you're describing should be sniffed out in open court. Neither Trump nor anyone else could cause the arrest of a former president on trumped up charges without facing extreme scrutiny, backlash, and ridicule. It would be political suicide, and it wouldn't take long.
Unless an officer personally witnesses the "treason" (or other unlikely exigent circumstances), you would need an arrest warrant signed by a judge in order to detain Obama. And in federal court, that requires an indictment by a grand jury.
So, the checks are (1) the federal judiciary, and (2) political consequences.
I think his question was can Trump do it if he is as billion % certain as he, Q and Fox are that there was the insanely specific crimes alleged? The answer is yes, quite easily. As I said, treason is not all they are alleging.
Trump can very legally direct that Barr charge Hillary and Trump.
But that means nothing.
To the sane and emotionally stable, you are correct, but that isn't the point of any of this. You're attempting to operate on a rational plane, you gotta get over that when discussing this topic.
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Question for the legal scholars on the board. Is there anything stopping trump from telling Barr to charge Obama with treason? We know that trump is all in with maga and q, and with seemingly all of them calling for Obama to be charged, why wouldn't they do it? Are there any tangible repercussions that would deter trump and Barr from charging anyone with anything they want to? They don't need a court order to bring charges, correct?
Well, Obama would have to be indicted by a grand jury. Quite unlikely.
Just clarifying, but there has to be a grand jury indictment for the AG to simply charge someone for anything or is this just a law for a treason charge?
The Constitution sets certain boundaries regarding treason. For example, the prosecution must have two witnesses to the same overt act of treason. However, all federal crimes are enabled by statute. Treason is a defined federal crime, and the enabling statute conforms to the Constitutional requirements. To charge Obama--a private citizen--with treason, he would need to be indicted by a grand jury. I don't see anyway around that.
Obama is a private American citizen. He has due process rights, and that includes probable cause to arrest and detain, and the requirement of a grand jury indictment if not in custody.
I'll ask another way. Let's say trump sees one of these tweets saying that Obama is being charged on Monday and he wants to make that happen. Isn't that as easy as Barr using the DOJ to make the charge, he doesn't need a judge or a third party to literally draw up a charge? He's publicly talked about pardoning defendants while trials are literally happening, clearly rule of law means nothing to this admin. What's the check and balance for a president and an AG circumventing the criminal justice system for malicious prosecution?
I'm a little over my skis, as I don't normally dabble in criminal law, but what do you mean by "draw up a charge"? Everyone has due process rights (including probable cause to be arrested in the first place), and among other things that means you can only be detained for a short period of time before having a bond hearing (48-72 hours, I think), at which point any bogus stuff like you're describing should be sniffed out in open court. Neither Trump nor anyone else could cause the arrest of a former president on trumped up charges without facing extreme scrutiny, backlash, and ridicule. It would be political suicide, and it wouldn't take long.
Unless an officer personally witnesses the "treason" (or other unlikely exigent circumstances), you would need an arrest warrant signed by a judge in order to detain Obama. And in federal court, that requires an indictment by a grand jury.
So, the checks are (1) the federal judiciary, and (2) political consequences.
I think his question was can Trump do it if he is as billion % certain as he, Q and Fox are that there was the insanely specific crimes alleged? The answer is yes, quite easily. As I said, treason is not all they are alleging.
Trump can very legally direct that Barr charge Hillary and Trump.
But that means nothing.
To the sane and emotionally stable, you are correct, but that isn't the point of any of this. You're attempting to operate on a rational plane, you gotta get over that when discussing this topic.
Is there some sort of award at fatty fest for “most ironic post” that I’m not aware of?
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https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1260646396216012800
https://twitter.com/adamhousley/status/1260646745815388160
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Flynn was all about taking on China, and no doubt that had to really really piss off people like ChiCom Joe and Barry who was dunked on repeatedly by the CCP and the utterly failed Asian Pivot.
Barry was also pissed about Flynn and Turkey and of course Barry and friends attempted a coup in Turkey.
It's becoming more and more clear that the Obama Administration was the embodiment of the national intelligence state that for decades Useful Idiot Nation professed to hate with the power of a 1000 suns.
Sell outs . . .
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Flynn "knew where the bodies were buried" and the past administration never thought she could lose.... once that happened, they panicked and started shitting the bed with this keystone cops operation.
And, if it weren't for those blasted kids and that talking dog in the mystery machine, they just might have gotten away with it all.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/devin-nunes-criminal-referrals-coming-for-mueller-team
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You mean the relationship with Turkey that led Judge Sullivan at one point to summarize Flynn’s lobbying work by saying, “I mean, arguably, that undermines everything this [American] flag over here stands for. Arguably, you sold your country out. The court’s going to consider all of that.”
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You mean the relationship with Turkey that led Judge Sullivan at one point to summarize Flynn’s lobbying work by saying, “I mean, arguably, that undermines everything this [American] flag over here stands for. Arguably, you sold your country out. The court’s going to consider all of that.”
Sullivan is mumped too. Stay tuned.
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so if I am now understanding this
everyone is guilty except the guy that plead guilty twice?
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You mean the relationship with Turkey that led Judge Sullivan at one point to summarize Flynn’s lobbying work by saying, “I mean, arguably, that undermines everything this [American] flag over here stands for. Arguably, you sold your country out. The court’s going to consider all of that.”
Oh so exactly how did Flynn sell out the country?
Sorry Obama’s attempted coup in Turkey failed, Lick.
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so if I am now understanding this
everyone is guilty except the guy that plead guilty twice?
He was just kidding. Little trick he picked up from the big boss.
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https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/13/us/politics/bill-priestap-michael-flynn.html.
LOL
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You mean the relationship with Turkey that led Judge Sullivan at one point to summarize Flynn’s lobbying work by saying, “I mean, arguably, that undermines everything this [American] flag over here stands for. Arguably, you sold your country out. The court’s going to consider all of that.”
Oh so exactly how did Flynn sell out the country?
Sorry Obama’s attempted coup in Turkey failed, Lick.
you would have to ask the federal Judge presiding over the facts of the case.
those are his words
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Man, Samantha Powers, hated Flynn worse than Lick.
Great to see (checks notes) the U.S. Ambassador to the U.N. so deeply ingrained in matters of intelligence, particularly when it involves what by all accounts was a relatively innocuous phone call. Flynn should have just handed over some more bombing coordinates to the Russians.
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Baker flipped on Obama & Co. Will this be a good thing for the deep state or the patriots? Stay tuned, story developing.
[youtube]https://youtu.be/TV-d-_qEM3Q[/youtube]
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Lol, uh oh, the Nerf balls are getting soaked in water now.
https://twitter.com/thefirstontv/status/1260982326022070274?s=21
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Yes, a few pages of bullet points typed up by an admin asst, LOL.
3 years of Russian COLUSION now we’re not supposed to pay any attention.
LMAO
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#where'stheoriginal302?
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#where'stheoriginal302?
Looks like it's coming...
https://twitter.com/LouDobbs/status/1261054584195293186
Unless, of course, this is more damning material related to whatever Renegade doesn't want getting out. (see link below)
https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/6882587/Letter-From-Obama-Office-to-NARA-03-13-20.pdf
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ITT dax and Bqqkie are like those old guys who sit across from each other at a table in the Kwik Shop on Anderson Avenue drinking bad gas station coffee for hours and talking about how The Manhattan Free Press is the only good newspaper around anymore.
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ITT dax and Bqqkie are like those old guys who sit across from each other at a table in the Kwik Shop on Anderson Avenue drinking bad gas station coffee for hours and talking about how The Manhattan Free Press is the only good newspaper around anymore.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Abuse of power and using the power of the executive branch against political enemies and to undermine future presidency's is perfectly fine, as long as Democrats are doing it. (SkinnyBenny)
Skinny Benny Deflecto Meter: 110%
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Sort of seems like he's trying to cut ahead of a bunch of folks in the line to get dunked on. :dunno:
:lol: :lol: :lol:
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ITT dax and Bqqkie are like those old guys who sit across from each other at a table in the Kwik Shop on Anderson Avenue drinking bad gas station coffee for hours and talking about how The Manhattan Free Press is the only good newspaper around anymore.
:lol:
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Sullivan is ultimately mumped. What a massive dumbass.
https://twitter.com/sun_q_tzu/status/1261638280417882112
Simply building talking points for the mutually implicit MSM that colluded in the Russian hoax while prolonging the inevitable.
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Glad they are giving these two stand up guys a chance to clear their names.
https://twitter.com/judiciarygop/status/1262556439312314374
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Whoopsie damn daisy
https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1263210422158553089
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SteveDave: Headline Parrot Boy
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Did I mention earlier that Sullivan basically mumped himself over?
https://twitter.com/SidneyPowell1/status/1263557289950228481
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:users:
https://twitter.com/Techno_Fog/status/1266472543868895237
:buh-bye:
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My gawd Flynn was a complete Mad Man!!!
It's pretty clear now why the Dictator Obama and his little junta of liars and spiers needed to bring Flynn down. . . he actually wanted to get along with other countries.
Gotta get ChiCom Joe back into the White House and crank that war machine back up, what poor 3rd world country will be next on the hit parade?
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If there is nothing to see here, why did they all lie about it?
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Someone's been hanging out at the_donald I see.
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question: did flynn fit the definition of a "foreign agent"
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https://twitter.com/asharangappa_/status/1266483380989771776?s=21
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https://twitter.com/asharangappa_/status/1266483380989771776
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Only Democrats can talk about having post election flexibility with Russians. (Useful Idiot Nation)
We can now thank Dictator Obama policy for:
Crimea (Stand Down)
Russian direct involvement in Syria
Russian direct involvement in Libya
Russian election meddling (Stand Down)
Dictator Obama rolled out the red carpet for restablishment of Russia as a Geo-Strategic player. With the help of Angie Merkel pumping billions into Vlad Putin’s pockets.
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Only Democrats can talk about having post election flexibility with Russians. (Useful Idiot Nation)
We can now thank Dictator Obama policy for:
Crimea (Stand Down)
Russian direct involvement in Syria
Russian direct involvement in Libya
Russian election meddling (Stand Down)
Dictator Obama rolled out the red carpet for restablishment of Russia as a Geo-Strategic player. With the help of Angie Merkel pumping billions into Vlad Putin’s pockets.
The left wing media spin is dizzying.
These poor tunes have been feasting on lies from CNN & MSNBC for 4 years.
I can’t even IMAGINE how stupid one could be to not have enough common sense to see through the ruse.
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Why did they lie?
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I could easily be convinced that Flynn was not a cog in a massive pro-Russia conspiracy machine. But he got in troubs for lying to investigators, not being a Russian double agent. I feel like it's possible to differentiate between the two.
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I could easily be convinced that Flynn was not a cog in a massive pro-Russia conspiracy machine. But he got in troubs for lying to investigators, not being a Russian double agent. I feel like it's possible to differentiate between the two.
The entire basis for the spying was the bullshit Russian narrative. Flynn contends the FBI was threatening his son and that he was bankrupt from paying lawyers.
Oh, and this phone call was on a mobile phone.
Just admit that the entire Trump team and campaign was being spied on. Dictator Obama et al knew the Russian deal was just cover for political spying. The same administration that got caught spying on our allies, Congress and journalists. They didn’t give a crap.
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I could easily be convinced that Flynn was not a cog in a massive pro-Russia conspiracy machine. But he got in troubs for lying to investigators, not being a Russian double agent. I feel like it's possible to differentiate between the two.
Here’s the official explanation from his attorney. My understanding is that via military intelligence, they knew it was a set up all along, double crossed the FBI/CIA/Renegade team and played the long game.
Basically, the lies meant nothing because they knew the whole foundation was baseless.
Haven’t you heard? “What a beautiful black sky”
https://twitter.com/sidneypowell1/status/1266500197103828992
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I could easily be convinced that Flynn was not a cog in a massive pro-Russia conspiracy machine. But he got in troubs for lying to investigators, not being a Russian double agent. I feel like it's possible to differentiate between the two.
The entire basis for the spying was the bullshit Russian narrative. Flynn contends the FBI was threatening his son and that he was bankrupt from paying lawyers.
Oh, and this phone call was on a mobile phone.
Just admit that the entire Trump team and campaign was being spied on. Dictator Obama et al knew the Russian deal was just cover for political spying. The same administration that got caught spying on our allies, Congress and journalists. They didn’t give a crap.
Bqqkie, you're a lunatic.
Dax, on the question of whether Gen. Flynn (or Gin Flynn as I call him) committed a crime, I usually start by asking myself whether Gin Flynn committed a crime.
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I am a lunatic. It’s absolute rough ridin' lunacy how right I’ve been all along.
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Why would George Soros want people looting?
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
When is Obama going to be charged?
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Why would George Soros want people looting?
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
When is Obama going to be charged?
:impatient:
Think chess. When do you attack the king?
I think it will be pre election, however it may hinge on how loyal Comey is...
Stay tuned
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Why would George Soros want people looting?
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
When is Obama going to be charged?
:impatient:
Think chess. When do you attack the king?
I think it will be pre election, however it may hinge on how loyal Comey is...
Stay tuned
So you're calling Obama the King? Good to know.
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I could easily be convinced that Flynn was not a cog in a massive pro-Russia conspiracy machine. But he got in troubs for lying to investigators, not being a Russian double agent. I feel like it's possible to differentiate between the two.
The entire basis for the spying was the bullshit Russian narrative. Flynn contends the FBI was threatening his son and that he was bankrupt from paying lawyers.
Oh, and this phone call was on a mobile phone.
Just admit that the entire Trump team and campaign was being spied on. Dictator Obama et al knew the Russian deal was just cover for political spying. The same administration that got caught spying on our allies, Congress and journalists. They didn’t give a crap.
Bqqkie, you're a lunatic.
Dax, on the question of whether Gen. Flynn (or Gin Flynn as I call him) committed a crime, I usually start by asking myself whether Gin Flynn committed a crime.
You're not going to get anything out of this. We all know that:
A). Flynn acted as a foreign agent and so did his son.
B). Both men failed to register as foreign agents as required by law
C). Flynn lied to the FBI about his status as a foreign agent
Just more uncomfortable truths for DAHI
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Why would George Soros want people looting?
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
When is Obama going to be charged?
:impatient:
Think chess. When do you attack the king?
I think it will be pre election, however it may hinge on how loyal Comey is...
Stay tuned
So you're calling Obama the King? Good to know.
He’s just spouting unsubstantiated claims from 4chan. It’s basically like the church of Scientology, the more you pay, the more is revealed. Except there isn’t enough money on earth to know everything.
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Why would George Soros want people looting?
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
When is Obama going to be charged?
:impatient:
Think chess. When do you attack the king?
I think it will be pre election, however it may hinge on how loyal Comey is...
Stay tuned
So you're calling Obama the King? Good to know.
Yep. Renegade is still your king and he’s still leading the insurgency against the United States of America.
The more you know.
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Just seems like common sense to people of average intelligence or above
https://twitter.com/cbs_herridge/status/1266719481323294726
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Why were they all trying so hard to cover up the call?
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Why were they all trying so hard to cover up the call?
here ya go: www.duckduckgo.com Maybe try a source that doesn’t serve your confirmation bias.
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Why did Flynn lie to Pence?
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Why did Flynn lie to Pence?
See above.
Meanwhile...
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/fbi-s-top-lawyer-dana-boente-ousted-amid-fox-news-n1219721
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Why did Flynn lie to Pence?
Apparently, he didn’t lie to Pence after all...
This former highly decorated former Texas Ranger explains it better than anything you’d find on the interwebs if you really care. (four tweet thread in total)
https://twitter.com/roscoebdavis1/status/1267065799962963970
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https://www.politico.com/news/2020/06/07/criminal-case-rafiekian-flynn-partner-306881
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https://twitter.com/kyledcheney/status/1270751013654474755?s=20
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https://www-washingtonpost-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/06/10/retired-judges-sharp-rebuke-william-barr-confirms-worst/?amp_js_v=a3&_gsa=1&outputType=amp&usqp=mq331AQFKAGwASA%3D#referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&_tf=From%20%251%24s&share=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.washingtonpost.com%2Fopinions%2F2020%2F06%2F10%2Fretired-judges-sharp-rebuke-william-barr-confirms-worst%2F
Bqqkie isn't coming back huh...
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Damn deep state activist judges!
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How will q struggle to explain this...
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Any word over on gE about how the Flynn case came out?
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how is the mask situation going for you???
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Pardon me, bqqkie, but is Flynn still canned?
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He's back?! :billdance: