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No Charlie Davies :cry:
The roster:
Goalkeepers: Brad Guzan (Aston Villa, England), Marcus Hahnemann (Wolverhampton, England), Tim Howard (Everton, England).
Defenders: Carlos Bocanegra (Rennes, France), Jonathan Bornstein (Chivas USA), Steve Cherundolo (Hannover, Germany), Jay DeMerit (Watford, England), Clarence Goodson (IK Start, Norway), Chad Marshall (Columbus), Oguchi Onyewu (AC Milan, Italy), Heath Pearce (Dallas), Jonathan Spector (West Ham, England).
Midfielders: DaMarcus Beasley (Glasgow Rangers, Scotland), Alejandro Bedoya (Orebro, Sweden), Michael Bradley (Borussia Moenchengladbach, Germany), Ricardo Clark (Eintracht Frankfurt, Germany), Clint Dempsey (Fulham, England), Landon Donovan (Los Angeles), Maurice Edu (Glasgow Rangers, Scotland), Benny Feilhaber (AGF Aarhus, Denmark), Stuart Holden (Bolton, England), Sacha Kljestan (Chivas USA), Robbie Rogers (Columbus), Jose Torres (Pachuca, Mexico).
Forwards: Jozy Altidore (Hull, England), Edson Buddle (Los Angeles), Brian Ching (Houston), Robbie Findley (Salt Lake), Herculez Gomez (Puebla, Mexico), Eddie Johnson (Aris, Greece).
Read More: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/soccer/05/11/davies.usroster.ap/index.html?eref=sihp#ixzz0neivwVtu
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DeMarcus Beasley :lol:
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No Jermaine Jones. :frown:
No Conor Casey. :pbj:
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I'm kinda surprised Eddie Johnson made it.
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I'm kinda surprised Eddie Johnson made it.
Still a long shot to make the 23 imo. However, he's refound his game since his loan to Greece. Nobody in our pool is going to replace Davies, but Johnson is one of the few who has the speed to really stretch people.
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What do people see in Brian Ching? And the idea of Eddie Johnson playing in the World Cup is just preposterous. Get ready to watch us try and punt it to Altidore and then not give him any support.
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We will do what we always seem to do. Let the other team hold the ball for 60 minutes and fire shots on our goal and hope we get lucky with a counter.
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No Jermaine Jones. :frown:
No Conor Casey. :pbj:
Jones didn't play this season in the bundesliga because of a shin injury.
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What do people see in Brian Ching? And the idea of Eddie Johnson playing in the World Cup is just preposterous. Get ready to watch us try and punt it to Altidore and then not give him any support.
He can hold up the ball pretty well. But that's pretty much it other than trying hard.
Bring back McBride!!!!
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I know nothing about US Soccer except eff MEXICO :kstatriot:
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We will do what we always seem to do. Let the other team hold the ball for 60 minutes and fire shots on our goal and hope we get lucky with a counter.
It's actually almost a valid approach, we have badass goalies.
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did any of you watch the last serious int'l competition? our only chance is counter-attack with donovan.
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did any of you watch the last serious int'l competition? our only chance is counter-attack with donovan.
meh. in those 2 and a half wins in the confederation cup 1 goal out of the 7 was a pure counter attack goal: the clark to donovan to davies to donovan combination against Brazil. Spain and Brazil play so far up the field though any time you get the ball you are going to have a chance to counter.
Egypt: goal 1 was Davies getting a cheap hustle goal and the Egypt defense falling over itself
Egypt: goal 2 was combination play between Bradley and Donovan down the heart of the Egyptian defense
Egypt: goal 3 was off a set play I think ... a Dempsey header.
Spain: goal 1 was Altidore turning his defender on a nice pass from Dempsey. not much defense there and might be considered a counter.
Spain: goal 2 Dempsey getting to a loose ball inside the 6 yard box and easily putting it home.
Brazil: goal 1 was a Dempsey redirect off a Spector cross in the normal run of play.
Brazil: goal 2 was the pure counter mentioned above.
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This team needs more Frankie Hejduk.
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Ching plays like his head isn't stuck up his ass, unlike Beasley. I'm curious to see if Buddle could make an impact.
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hate Brian Ching. the options at forward here w/o Davies is incredibly weak.
i would drop Ching and bring Buddle and Gomez along w/ Altidore. I can see a 4-5-1 formation or a 4-3-2-1 formation. with Dempsey/Donovan kind of playing 2nd and 3rd forwards.
Spector-Onyewu-Demerit-Bocanegra
Clark-Edu-Bradley
Dempsey-Donovan
Altidore
that's kind of defensive but we can bring in Holden, Feilhaber, Buddle, Gomez, Torres, Bornstein to make it a more attacking team.
also if Altidore doesn't pull his head out of his ass i'd like to see Buddle there with his experience playing w/ Donovan and playing alone up top in a 4-5-1 for the Galaxy.
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did any of you watch the last serious int'l competition? our only chance is counter-attack with donovan.
meh. in those 2 and a half wins in the confederation cup 1 goal out of the 7 was a pure counter attack goal: the clark to donovan to davies to donovan combination against Brazil. Spain and Brazil play so far up the field though any time you get the ball you are going to have a chance to counter.
Egypt: goal 1 was Davies getting a cheap hustle goal and the Egypt defense falling over itself
Egypt: goal 2 was combination play between Bradley and Donovan down the heart of the Egyptian defense
Egypt: goal 3 was off a set play I think ... a Dempsey header.
Spain: goal 1 was Altidore turning his defender on a nice pass from Dempsey. not much defense there and might be considered a counter.
Spain: goal 2 Dempsey getting to a loose ball inside the 6 yard box and easily putting it home.
Brazil: goal 1 was a Dempsey redirect off a Spector cross in the normal run of play.
Brazil: goal 2 was the pure counter mentioned above.
That is excellent. I could in no way replicate those descriptions, even though I watched the games, but I doubt that any would argue that our best mode of attack is when we are on a swift counter attack. Obviously it is conceivable that we could score goals after sustained possession pressure with a number of crosses coming in to the box. But we are not very creative, we lack anyone seriously capable of breaking down a defense from a standing position or with multiple men behind the ball and so we are left with early runs that get us behind the defense. Unless we have out fullbacks pushed up (or overlapping in to open space) we are dreadful at playing up the middle of the pitch with short passes or creating space with individual runs without space to run in.
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hate Brian Ching. the options at forward here w/o Davies is incredibly weak.
i would drop Ching and bring Buddle and Gomez along w/ Altidore. I can see a 4-5-1 formation or a 4-3-2-1 formation. with Dempsey/Donovan kind of playing 2nd and 3rd forwards.
Spector-Onyewu-Demerit-Bocanegra
Clark-Edu-Bradley
Dempsey-Donovan
Altidore
that's kind of defensive but we can bring in Holden, Feilhaber, Buddle, Gomez, Torres, Bornstein to make it a more attacking team.
also if Altidore doesn't pull his head out of his ass i'd like to see Buddle there with his experience playing w/ Donovan and playing alone up top in a 4-5-1 for the Galaxy.
Altidore needs to play well and he is capable of being the most physically dominating presence on the field most times he plays. This is a huge advantage, particularly at the World Cup.
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WHERE IS FREDDY ADU!!!!!!!!!11????????//
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God, please don't let Brain Ching make the final roster. He is a talent-less douche that is slow and weak. He gives us nothing. His play during the Gold Cup was embarrassing. I can't think if he even scored once. If he did, it was probably luck.
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I hate Steve Cherundolo. I hope he is not a starter on the world cup squad. As for the 30-man roster, there are a couple names I've never heard of (Bedoya), and I follow USA soccer whenever they play.
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I hate Steve Cherundolo. I hope he is not a starter on the world cup squad. As for the 30-man roster, there are a couple names I've never heard of (Bedoya), and I follow USA soccer whenever they play.
i like dolo. he has a ton of experience playing in meaningful games. but choosing between him and spector is like choosing which tooth the torturing guy is going to pull out of your mouth. i feel that way about every defender the U.S. has. they are all no-talent-ass-clowns who wouldn't make the starting lineup of any other country in the fifa top 20 rankings.
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hate Brian Ching. the options at forward here w/o Davies is incredibly weak.
i would drop Ching and bring Buddle and Gomez along w/ Altidore. I can see a 4-5-1 formation or a 4-3-2-1 formation. with Dempsey/Donovan kind of playing 2nd and 3rd forwards.
Spector-Onyewu-Demerit-Bocanegra
Clark-Edu-Bradley
Dempsey-Donovan
Altidore
that's kind of defensive but we can bring in Holden, Feilhaber, Buddle, Gomez, Torres, Bornstein to make it a more attacking team.
also if Altidore doesn't pull his head out of his ass i'd like to see Buddle there with his experience playing w/ Donovan and playing alone up top in a 4-5-1 for the Galaxy.
Altidore needs to play well and he is capable of being the most physically dominating presence on the field most times he plays. This is a huge advantage, particularly at the World Cup.
yes. he needs some motivation though. maybe Davies can get in another car wreck or the govt can cause another Haitian earthquake. using 6 midfielders with Dempsey up top all alone isn't something I want to see. for Fulham against Atl. Madrid, Dempsey was invisible yesterday.
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did any of you watch the last serious int'l competition? our only chance is counter-attack with donovan.
meh. in those 2 and a half wins in the confederation cup 1 goal out of the 7 was a pure counter attack goal: the clark to donovan to davies to donovan combination against Brazil. Spain and Brazil play so far up the field though any time you get the ball you are going to have a chance to counter.
Egypt: goal 1 was Davies getting a cheap hustle goal and the Egypt defense falling over itself
Egypt: goal 2 was combination play between Bradley and Donovan down the heart of the Egyptian defense
Egypt: goal 3 was off a set play I think ... a Dempsey header.
Spain: goal 1 was Altidore turning his defender on a nice pass from Dempsey. not much defense there and might be considered a counter.
Spain: goal 2 Dempsey getting to a loose ball inside the 6 yard box and easily putting it home.
Brazil: goal 1 was a Dempsey redirect off a Spector cross in the normal run of play.
Brazil: goal 2 was the pure counter mentioned above.
That is excellent. I could in no way replicate those descriptions, even though I watched the games, but I doubt that any would argue that our best mode of attack is when we are on a swift counter attack. Obviously it is conceivable that we could score goals after sustained possession pressure with a number of crosses coming in to the box. But we are not very creative, we lack anyone seriously capable of breaking down a defense from a standing position or with multiple men behind the ball and so we are left with early runs that get us behind the defense. Unless we have out fullbacks pushed up (or overlapping in to open space) we are dreadful at playing up the middle of the pitch with short passes or creating space with individual runs without space to run in.
i think that's mostly right. w/o Davies speed the counter game won't be nearly as effective. scoring from set pieces is going to be huge.
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If any of you creeps live in KC, we are having a huge watch party for the England game at The Point. Opening at 9am.
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God, please don't let Brain Ching make the final roster. He is a talent-less douche that is slow and weak. He gives us nothing. His play during the Gold Cup was embarrassing. I can't think if he even scored once. If he did, it was probably luck.
I think "luck" is exactly what this team needs if it wants to succeed. Welcome Brian Ching.
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Jesus, this really is a thread about World Cup soccer. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: (ftp://:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:)
Warm up the cricket roster next mother fuckers!
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I know nothing about US Soccer except eff MEXICO :kstatriot:
i fuckin hate mexicans. at least all the ones in their ugly ass green soccer uniforms and all the sick bastards that go to their games in mexico city who throw piss and stuff on people. most of the other authentic mexicans i've met are cool
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We will do what we always seem to do. Let the other team hold the ball for 60 minutes and fire shots on our goal and hope we get lucky with a counter.
It's actually almost a valid approach, we have badass goalies.
Howard is overrated imo. Freidel got mumped over by the powers that be last world cup cycle and decided to retire. it would be nice to have him as our #1. would have been reallly nice in 2006 instead of Keller who peaked in 1999
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May have to do a big green egg/World cup 'pak this summer in manhappenin
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May have to do a big green egg/World cup 'pak this summer in manhappenin
holla, I'll bring tha cava!
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Hibbetts has USA replica jerseys!!! Also Mexico and Argentina :jerk:
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Bros, I seriously cant wait any longer for the Cup to start.
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Bros, I seriously cant wait any longer for the Cup to start.
Tru Dhat. :pbj:
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idLG6jh23yE&feature=player_embedded (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idLG6jh23yE&feature=player_embedded)
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idLG6jh23yE&feature=player_embedded (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idLG6jh23yE&feature=player_embedded)
:love:
I don't know what they are selling, but I'm buying. :gocho:
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Bros, I seriously cant wait any longer for the Cup to start.
I really don't follow soccer but I love the sport and I'm right there with you. Been jonesin' for the Cup to start since about the time the draw was announced.
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final cuts to 23 will be announced today at around 12:20
in the Czech friendly last night the US sat out Confed Cup starters Howard, DeMerit, Bocanegra, Spector, Donovan, Dempsey, Clark, Bradley and reserve Feilhaber
sad to say Ching looked pretty good last night. i think he booked his ticket to South Africa and could likely get into the starting 11 if a 4-4-2 is implemented. w/ US Soccer's lack of imagination that is almost a certainty. Gomez' goal might mean Buddle is the one to be left out up top. the Galaxy forward looked ok but didn't stand out. thought he showed a lot better than Eddie Johnson did. Buddle could be an alternate but won't make the 23.
the back line showed terribly. didn't like Cherundolo's performance at right back but he might have been the 2nd best behind Goodson whose one gaffe led to a Czech goal. the combination of Bornstein and Pearce at left fullback was vomit inducing. if Onyewu can get healthy and fit for a full 90 then we can put Bocanegra out ther. but Onyewu lumbered around last night like he had no power in his left leg. his lack of power was evident when a Czech player rose above him easily for header into the net. Demerit is also questionable w/ lingering effects from a detached retina last fall. Bocanegra just had surgery for a sports hernia 3 weeks ago. neither Demerit nor Bocanegra suited up. they might have been able to play if necessary i think and both should make the roster.
in the midfield Holden was able to get in 90 minutes which was important considering he is recovering from a broken ankle and only recovered in time to make one start for his club team at the end of the season. he provided good looks on set pieces for the 2 goals. Torres looked decent. Edu also looked good in midfield before being tested at center back for the last 1/3rd of the game. Holden might be the only player from last night's midfield that gets a start in the World Cup. in my opinion Edu should but Holden would get the nod in a conventional 4-4-2 which seems to be the only formation Bob Bradley has ever heard of.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J19-ROSfwY8&feature=player_embedded
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Oguchi Onyewu returns for U.S. soccer, but timing is a touch off vs. Czech Republic (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/05/26/AR2010052600042.html)
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Pierce better be cut, he was the worst player last night. Johnson and Ching should go too, have Altidore, Gomez, Findley and Buddle. Rodgers and looked promising and Edu was good too. Need players like that to step up if we want to make it to the knock out rounds.
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USA World Cup Team
Goalkeepers- Tim Howard, Marcus Hahnemann, Brad Guzan
Defenders- Carlos Bocanegra, Oguchi Onyewu, Jay DeMerit, Steve Cherundolo, Jonathan Spector, Clarence Goodson, Jonathan Bornstein
Midfielders- Landon Donovan, Michael Bradley, Stuart Holden, Maurice Edu, Ricardo Clark, DaMarcus Beasley, Benny Feilhaber, Jose Francisco Torres
Forwards- Clint Dempsey, Jozy Altidore, Herculez Gomez, Edson Buddle, Robbie Findley
http://www.soccerbyives.net/soccer_by_ives/2010/05/usa-world-cup-team-announced.html
http://theshinguardian.com/2010/05/25/the-beginning-of-the-south-africa-23/
http://worldcup.si.com/2010/05/26/findley-makes-world-cup-team-ching-cut/
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Well I was spot on except for Rodgers. Ah well, he's young.
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Well I was spot on except for Rodgers. Ah well, he's young.
player pool is deep at his position. that depth includes the best 2 players the U.S. has to offer in Donovan & Dempsey. he'll definitely be going to Brazil in 2014
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Davies playing for Sochaux in preseason http://ligue1talk.com/2010/07/07/ligue-1-preseason-charlie-davies-players-nancy-rolls/