Post by: Dr Rick Daris on December 19, 2016, 01:34:06 PM
what is bad right now? maybe I'm just lucky or smart enough to not have the bad things happen to me, but what is bad right now?
Post by: Tobias on December 19, 2016, 01:35:55 PM
Post by: steve dave on December 19, 2016, 01:37:01 PM
Post by: steve dave on December 19, 2016, 01:37:24 PM
Post by: bubbles4ksu on December 19, 2016, 01:37:50 PM
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on December 19, 2016, 01:38:55 PM
school lunches are gross af
this might be true and it might not be. source-one of my kids eats the school lunch every day and loves it. the other has never eaten it and won't for the forseeable future.
fact check ruling-need more data
Post by: Tobias on December 19, 2016, 01:39:09 PM
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on December 19, 2016, 01:40:11 PM
also crime rates are down rick daris. that's good.
yeah. my wife's dad tried to tell me how crime is way up and I fact checked his ass on the spot. :nono:
Post by: Tobias on December 19, 2016, 01:40:21 PM
Post by: steve dave on December 19, 2016, 01:40:34 PM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on December 19, 2016, 01:41:52 PM
Post by: steve dave on December 19, 2016, 01:43:49 PM
Post by: yoga-like_abana on December 19, 2016, 01:44:27 PM
decreasing social cohesion. people aren't getting together to pak like they used to in the good ol' days.its probably just you getting older
Post by: chum1 on December 19, 2016, 01:45:50 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on December 19, 2016, 01:45:58 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on December 19, 2016, 01:59:21 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on December 19, 2016, 02:00:35 PM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 19, 2016, 02:00:47 PM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on December 19, 2016, 02:02:59 PM
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on December 19, 2016, 02:05:24 PM
http://www.factcheck.org/2015/02/slower-premium-growth-under-obama/
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on December 19, 2016, 02:06:20 PM
1. The cost of many important things, like health insurance, continues to increase dramatically, while household income remains stagnant if not slightly declining.
2. National Debt has doubled to $20 trillion in just 8 years, now surpassing 100% of GDP.
3. Labor force participation rate is down to just 63%.
4. While crime rate has been trending downward overall, violent crime is up.
5. Middle East is in flames, Islamic terrorist enclaves are emerging in "First World" countries, and US immigration policy seems to be encouraging the same lack of assimilation here.
6. Worst race relations since the 60s, with police officers being gunned down in retaliation for perceived injustice.
7. A presidency and federal bureaucracy that doesn't give two fucks about applying law impartially, targeting certain groups while flatly refusing to enforce laws elsewhere for political expediency.
8. The percentage of out-of-wedlock births has risen to 40%, including a staggering 72% among African Americans.
9. NFL's lowest ratings in history, either because the product sucks or people want to keep their sports and politics separate.
10. someone who makes me uncomfortable epidemic on college campuses, worse than it has ever been.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 19, 2016, 02:07:48 PM
Post by: Kat Kid on December 19, 2016, 02:10:48 PM
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on December 19, 2016, 02:12:05 PM
4. While crime rate has been trending downward overall, violent crime is up.
fact check alert***
status-incorrect
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcdn.factcheck.org%2FUploadedFiles%2F2016%2F07%2FViolent-Crime-Rate-Chart1.png&hash=f4182e36c259159746089fe87ca36e2741f41be4)
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcdn.factcheck.org%2FUploadedFiles%2F2016%2F07%2FMurder-Rate-Chart.png&hash=a173b854d4c02884036c20c6f5da735937aa6db8)
http://www.factcheck.org/2016/07/dueling-claims-on-crime-trend/
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on December 19, 2016, 02:16:33 PM
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2016/09/26/violent-crime-and-murders-both-went-up-in-2015-fbi-says/?utm_term=.eea462d925b6 (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2016/09/26/violent-crime-and-murders-both-went-up-in-2015-fbi-says/?utm_term=.eea462d925b6)
I might add ""Fact Checking" organization are increasingly partisan, both in the issues they choose to evaluate and how they evaluate them" to the list.
Post by: star seed 7 on December 19, 2016, 02:22:09 PM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on December 19, 2016, 02:22:58 PM
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on December 19, 2016, 02:31:53 PM
Your graphs stop at 2014. So that's probably ok then.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2016/09/26/violent-crime-and-murders-both-went-up-in-2015-fbi-says/?utm_term=.eea462d925b6 (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2016/09/26/violent-crime-and-murders-both-went-up-in-2015-fbi-says/?utm_term=.eea462d925b6)
I might add ""Fact Checking" organization are increasingly partisan, both in the issues they choose to evaluate and how they evaluate them" to the list.
violent crime rates are 50% less than they were 25 years ago. you are delusional.
Post by: star seed 7 on December 19, 2016, 02:32:50 PM
Your graphs stop at 2014. So that's probably ok then.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2016/09/26/violent-crime-and-murders-both-went-up-in-2015-fbi-says/?utm_term=.eea462d925b6 (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2016/09/26/violent-crime-and-murders-both-went-up-in-2015-fbi-says/?utm_term=.eea462d925b6)
I might add ""Fact Checking" organization are increasingly partisan, both in the issues they choose to evaluate and how they evaluate them" to the list.
violent crime rates are 50% less than they were 25 years ago. you are delusional.
Uptick when trump burst on the scene tho :frown:
Post by: CNS on December 19, 2016, 02:42:08 PM
Post by: yoga-like_abana on December 19, 2016, 02:45:14 PM
Post by: CNS on December 19, 2016, 02:48:05 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on December 19, 2016, 02:49:23 PM
Post by: yoga-like_abana on December 19, 2016, 02:51:41 PM
Post by: yoga-like_abana on December 19, 2016, 02:51:52 PM
Post by: yoga-like_abana on December 19, 2016, 02:52:04 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on December 19, 2016, 02:53:12 PM
Post by: yoga-like_abana on December 19, 2016, 02:56:21 PM
Post by: The Big Train on December 19, 2016, 03:10:59 PM
Post by: The Big Train on December 19, 2016, 03:11:52 PM
Post by: yoga-like_abana on December 19, 2016, 03:16:13 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on December 19, 2016, 03:19:06 PM
Social media is another big thing that's wrong, people just hiding behind their screens thinking they can say whatever they want.
Ironic from the guy that wanted an anon message boarding feature
Post by: The Big Train on December 19, 2016, 03:21:20 PM
Social media is another big thing that's wrong, people just hiding behind their screens thinking they can say whatever they want.
Ironic from the guy that wanted an anon message boarding feature
I wouldn't necessarily classify this blog as social media. I was more talking about Facebook/Twitter etc.
Post by: The Big Train on December 19, 2016, 03:21:56 PM
Post by: Phil Titola on December 19, 2016, 03:29:37 PM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on December 19, 2016, 03:30:52 PM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on December 19, 2016, 03:32:28 PM
Post by: renocat on December 19, 2016, 03:33:48 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on December 19, 2016, 03:34:54 PM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on December 19, 2016, 03:35:34 PM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 19, 2016, 03:36:38 PM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on December 19, 2016, 03:37:38 PM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on December 19, 2016, 03:38:11 PM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 19, 2016, 03:39:19 PM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on December 19, 2016, 03:40:12 PM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on December 19, 2016, 03:42:31 PM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 19, 2016, 03:44:04 PM
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on December 19, 2016, 03:46:14 PM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on December 19, 2016, 03:46:32 PM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on December 19, 2016, 03:52:27 PM
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on December 19, 2016, 03:53:26 PM
Post by: The Big Train on December 19, 2016, 03:53:44 PM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on December 19, 2016, 03:55:51 PM
Post by: The Big Train on December 19, 2016, 03:57:25 PM
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on December 19, 2016, 04:08:18 PM
Also, really thoughtful and intelligent people like Rick Daris, who value legal weed, adult marriage, and 2-year old facebook graphs above all else, have never voted. We can't say America is right until at least 100% of eligible voters are voting, imho.
if you're going to drive me to burn town, you could at least address me as dr rick daris.
Post by: Dugout DickStone on December 19, 2016, 04:08:43 PM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on December 19, 2016, 04:11:54 PM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 19, 2016, 04:14:20 PM
Post by: Dugout DickStone on December 19, 2016, 04:17:24 PM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on December 19, 2016, 04:22:13 PM
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on December 19, 2016, 04:27:28 PM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 19, 2016, 04:28:48 PM
also good right now is that tvs are ridic cheap. I just bought a second tv for the basement. it's 55 inches and was less than $300. that's absurd.Samesies
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on December 19, 2016, 04:29:15 PM
Post by: ben ji on December 19, 2016, 04:29:34 PM
I'm not very political. have never voted. things seem pretty good right now though. low interest rates, retirement has gone up a bunch the last five years, gas is cheap, marijuana is finally starting to be legalized, adult humans are finally being allowed to marry other adult humans of their choice, star wars movies seem back on track, etc.
what is bad right now? maybe I'm just lucky or smart enough to not have the bad things happen to me, but what is bad right now?
Gotta agree with officer daris here, things are pretty great right now. People talk about 2016 like it was a sign of the coming apocalypse but all in all I'd give it 5.5 out of 7 stars.
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on December 19, 2016, 04:30:25 PM
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on December 19, 2016, 04:31:43 PM
Post by: ben ji on December 19, 2016, 04:32:01 PM
Now I don't even need to get off the couch to google "What is the population of india" on my smartphone!
Post by: Phil Titola on December 19, 2016, 04:33:47 PM
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on December 19, 2016, 04:37:54 PM
So get this. My grandparents used to buy these huge encyclopedia sets that cost a ton of money but if you want to know immediately what the population of India was that was the only way you could find out.
Now I don't even need to get off the couch to google "What is the population of india" on my smartphone!
real life thing that happened on my couch last night!....
I'm on my phone and see something that says free hbogo for a month for amazon prime members. five minutes later I'm watching westworld. ON MY PHONE! ON MY COUCH! FOR FREE!!!
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on December 19, 2016, 04:39:04 PM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on December 19, 2016, 04:39:56 PM
Post by: bubbles4ksu on December 19, 2016, 04:40:21 PM
advert on gE.com
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on December 19, 2016, 04:43:30 PM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on December 19, 2016, 04:44:52 PM
So get this. My grandparents used to buy these huge encyclopedia sets that cost a ton of money but if you want to know immediately what the population of India was that was the only way you could find out.
Now I don't even need to get off the couch to google "What is the population of india" on my smartphone!
Speaking of which, what should I do with a set of Encyclopedias that I inherited?
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on December 19, 2016, 04:45:59 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on December 19, 2016, 04:48:44 PM
Post by: bubbles4ksu on December 19, 2016, 04:48:52 PM
Post by: Tobias on December 19, 2016, 04:50:26 PM
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on December 19, 2016, 04:50:45 PM
McDonald's price has gone up like 2 dollars since I was in high school for the same value meal
bfast 24/7 tho
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 19, 2016, 04:51:02 PM
McDonald's price has gone up like 2 dollars since I was in high school for the same value mealJBC's used to be like .99 cents at Wendy's and now they've practically doubled in price. :curse:
Post by: ben ji on December 19, 2016, 04:51:29 PM
So get this. My grandparents used to buy these huge encyclopedia sets that cost a ton of money but if you want to know immediately what the population of India was that was the only way you could find out.
Now I don't even need to get off the couch to google "What is the population of india" on my smartphone!
Speaking of which, what should I do with a set of Encyclopedias that I inherited?
I saved one set of some type of "Geography Encyclopedia" from the early 60's. Kind of interesting to go back and read the wikipedia pages of countries 50 years later.
Post by: star seed 7 on December 19, 2016, 04:52:00 PM
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Audible guffaw irl rn :lol:
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on December 19, 2016, 05:20:48 PM
Your graphs stop at 2014. So that's probably ok then.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2016/09/26/violent-crime-and-murders-both-went-up-in-2015-fbi-says/?utm_term=.eea462d925b6 (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2016/09/26/violent-crime-and-murders-both-went-up-in-2015-fbi-says/?utm_term=.eea462d925b6)
I might add ""Fact Checking" organization are increasingly partisan, both in the issues they choose to evaluate and how they evaluate them" to the list.
violent crime rates are 50% less than they were 25 years ago. you are delusional.
You might go back and read what I said. You also might stop and ask yourself, WGAF what violent crime was like 25 years ago if violent crime is suddenly on the rise now? If there was a sudden measles epidemic in this country, people wouldn't be saying "yeah, but compared to the 1800s...."
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on December 19, 2016, 05:21:36 PM
Nfl ratings are down, country sucks now
I'm disappointed you didn't get the joke here Lib7 - I thought you would.
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on December 19, 2016, 05:23:05 PM
People moving back into their parents' house after they get their participation certificate from college.
That's actually a good one I overlooked. Better update the list.
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on December 19, 2016, 05:24:09 PM
I mean make America great again? are you kidding me? I do NOT want to go back to when the only pizza games in town were godfathers and pizza hut and both were like $14 for a large and they never ever had royals5 or anything similar. no thanks, trump. go home, dufus.
Oh, that's another good one. Obesity.
Post by: star seed 7 on December 19, 2016, 05:25:06 PM
Nfl ratings are down, country sucks now
I'm disappointed you didn't get the joke here Lib7 - I thought you would.
And get rid of that pink crap in October, this isn't the gfl
Post by: cfbandyman on December 19, 2016, 05:25:30 PM
Your graphs stop at 2014. So that's probably ok then.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2016/09/26/violent-crime-and-murders-both-went-up-in-2015-fbi-says/?utm_term=.eea462d925b6 (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2016/09/26/violent-crime-and-murders-both-went-up-in-2015-fbi-says/?utm_term=.eea462d925b6)
I might add ""Fact Checking" organization are increasingly partisan, both in the issues they choose to evaluate and how they evaluate them" to the list.
violent crime rates are 50% less than they were 25 years ago. you are delusional.
You might go back and read what I said. You also might stop and ask yourself, WGAF what violent crime was like 25 years ago if violent crime is suddenly on the rise now? If there was a sudden measles epidemic in this country, people wouldn't be saying "yeah, but compared to the 1800s...."
One data point out of 25 is statically an anomaly until proven a trend? Also, perspective matters :dunno: so many false equivalencies.
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on December 19, 2016, 05:33:43 PM
Your graphs stop at 2014. So that's probably ok then.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2016/09/26/violent-crime-and-murders-both-went-up-in-2015-fbi-says/?utm_term=.eea462d925b6 (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2016/09/26/violent-crime-and-murders-both-went-up-in-2015-fbi-says/?utm_term=.eea462d925b6)
I might add ""Fact Checking" organization are increasingly partisan, both in the issues they choose to evaluate and how they evaluate them" to the list.
violent crime rates are 50% less than they were 25 years ago. you are delusional.
You might go back and read what I said. You also might stop and ask yourself, WGAF what violent crime was like 25 years ago if violent crime is suddenly on the rise now? If there was a sudden measles epidemic in this country, people wouldn't be saying "yeah, but compared to the 1800s...."
I'm not quite sure why you are comparing a hypothetical non existent "sudden rise" in violent crime to a hypothetical non existent "sudden measles epidemic", but it does make for an interesting read. now do hypothetical alien invasion and pretend people that have all recently lost insurance coverage due to obamacare.
Post by: Skipper44 on December 19, 2016, 05:40:03 PM
:excited: this is why I read pit threads that blowup quicklySo get this. My grandparents used to buy these huge encyclopedia sets that cost a ton of money but if you want to know immediately what the population of India was that was the only way you could find out.
Now I don't even need to get off the couch to google "What is the population of india" on my smartphone!
real life thing that happened on my couch last night!....
I'm on my phone and see something that says free hbogo for a month for amazon prime members. five minutes later I'm watching westworld. ON MY PHONE! ON MY COUCH! FOR FREE!!!
Post by: ben ji on December 19, 2016, 05:59:24 PM
Stupid Millennials.
Post by: The Big Train on December 19, 2016, 06:10:26 PM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on December 19, 2016, 06:18:07 PM
Post by: CNS on December 19, 2016, 06:21:45 PM
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on December 19, 2016, 07:51:46 PM
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Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on December 19, 2016, 09:50:26 PM
Your graphs stop at 2014. So that's probably ok then.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2016/09/26/violent-crime-and-murders-both-went-up-in-2015-fbi-says/?utm_term=.eea462d925b6 (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2016/09/26/violent-crime-and-murders-both-went-up-in-2015-fbi-says/?utm_term=.eea462d925b6)
I might add ""Fact Checking" organization are increasingly partisan, both in the issues they choose to evaluate and how they evaluate them" to the list.
violent crime rates are 50% less than they were 25 years ago. you are delusional.
You might go back and read what I said. You also might stop and ask yourself, WGAF what violent crime was like 25 years ago if violent crime is suddenly on the rise now? If there was a sudden measles epidemic in this country, people wouldn't be saying "yeah, but compared to the 1800s...."
One data point out of 25 is statically an anomaly until proven a trend? Also, perspective matters :dunno: so many false equivalencies.
No that's fine, go ahead and pretend this is just an anomaly, and there is no connection to the wave of riots sweeping thru the cities this year. Jussssst an anomaly.
Daris you're making pretty much the same point but I'm not going to respond separately because you're just butthurt about getting burned by politifact.
Post by: puniraptor on December 19, 2016, 10:22:07 PM
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on December 19, 2016, 10:26:18 PM
Post by: michigancat on December 19, 2016, 10:28:17 PM
Post by: cfbandyman on December 19, 2016, 11:02:21 PM
Your graphs stop at 2014. So that's probably ok then.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2016/09/26/violent-crime-and-murders-both-went-up-in-2015-fbi-says/?utm_term=.eea462d925b6 (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2016/09/26/violent-crime-and-murders-both-went-up-in-2015-fbi-says/?utm_term=.eea462d925b6)
I might add ""Fact Checking" organization are increasingly partisan, both in the issues they choose to evaluate and how they evaluate them" to the list.
violent crime rates are 50% less than they were 25 years ago. you are delusional.
You might go back and read what I said. You also might stop and ask yourself, WGAF what violent crime was like 25 years ago if violent crime is suddenly on the rise now? If there was a sudden measles epidemic in this country, people wouldn't be saying "yeah, but compared to the 1800s...."
One data point out of 25 is statically an anomaly until proven a trend? Also, perspective matters :dunno: so many false equivalencies.
No that's fine, go ahead and pretend this is just an anomaly, and there is no connection to the wave of riots sweeping thru the cities this year. Jussssst an anomaly.
Daris you're making pretty much the same point but I'm not going to respond separately because you're just butthurt about getting burned by politifact.
Trends matter. It is an anomaly until proven a trend. Like, seriously how thick can you be? I'm not arguing it went up, but just one year doesn't mean that crime consistently is going up. It may very well continue to go up, but you cant make assumptions that one year up is a trend. And yes, a series of riotous events is rather anomalous to the trends over the last 25 years. You seriously are really bad at this. 1 data point in the up direction does not mean a trend up in crime. If it goes up but 10% the next 3-4 years. I'll be more than happy to fully agree with you. And how can you be pissed at an FBI source? Or you just dont trust anything anymore. You can just cop out butthurtness to try to prove the a point. Show me the alternative history trend that supports your point.
Post by: Tobias on December 19, 2016, 11:59:25 PM
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on December 20, 2016, 05:21:44 AM
Your graphs stop at 2014. So that's probably ok then.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2016/09/26/violent-crime-and-murders-both-went-up-in-2015-fbi-says/?utm_term=.eea462d925b6 (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2016/09/26/violent-crime-and-murders-both-went-up-in-2015-fbi-says/?utm_term=.eea462d925b6)
I might add ""Fact Checking" organization are increasingly partisan, both in the issues they choose to evaluate and how they evaluate them" to the list.
violent crime rates are 50% less than they were 25 years ago. you are delusional.
You might go back and read what I said. You also might stop and ask yourself, WGAF what violent crime was like 25 years ago if violent crime is suddenly on the rise now? If there was a sudden measles epidemic in this country, people wouldn't be saying "yeah, but compared to the 1800s...."
One data point out of 25 is statically an anomaly until proven a trend? Also, perspective matters :dunno: so many false equivalencies.
No that's fine, go ahead and pretend this is just an anomaly, and there is no connection to the wave of riots sweeping thru the cities this year. Jussssst an anomaly.
Daris you're making pretty much the same point but I'm not going to respond separately because you're just butthurt about getting burned by politifact.
Trends matter. It is an anomaly until proven a trend. Like, seriously how thick can you be? I'm not arguing it went up, but just one year doesn't mean that crime consistently is going up. It may very well continue to go up, but you cant make assumptions that one year up is a trend. And yes, a series of riotous events is rather anomalous to the trends over the last 25 years. You seriously are really bad at this. 1 data point in the up direction does not mean a trend up in crime. If it goes up but 10% the next 3-4 years. I'll be more than happy to fully agree with you. And how can you be pissed at an FBI source? Or you just dont trust anything anymore. You can just cop out butthurtness to try to prove the a point. Show me the alternative history trend that supports your point.
I didn't say it would continue to go up. Perhaps race relations and police relations will improve under Trump and violent crime will resume its decline. The simple fact, and only fact, I was making is that there has been a recent uptick in violent crime. That's not a good thing. To pretend it is an anomaly unconnected to current events is DUMB. But keep on going....
Post by: ben ji on December 20, 2016, 09:12:00 AM
Not every K-State game used to be on TV! Like even recently! Member 2003 when we won the Big 12 title? (I member!) Well only half our regular season games were on TV!
Post by: cfbandyman on December 20, 2016, 09:30:33 AM
Your graphs stop at 2014. So that's probably ok then.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2016/09/26/violent-crime-and-murders-both-went-up-in-2015-fbi-says/?utm_term=.eea462d925b6 (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2016/09/26/violent-crime-and-murders-both-went-up-in-2015-fbi-says/?utm_term=.eea462d925b6)
I might add ""Fact Checking" organization are increasingly partisan, both in the issues they choose to evaluate and how they evaluate them" to the list.
violent crime rates are 50% less than they were 25 years ago. you are delusional.
You might go back and read what I said. You also might stop and ask yourself, WGAF what violent crime was like 25 years ago if violent crime is suddenly on the rise now? If there was a sudden measles epidemic in this country, people wouldn't be saying "yeah, but compared to the 1800s...."
One data point out of 25 is statically an anomaly until proven a trend? Also, perspective matters :dunno: so many false equivalencies.
No that's fine, go ahead and pretend this is just an anomaly, and there is no connection to the wave of riots sweeping thru the cities this year. Jussssst an anomaly.
Daris you're making pretty much the same point but I'm not going to respond separately because you're just butthurt about getting burned by politifact.
Trends matter. It is an anomaly until proven a trend. Like, seriously how thick can you be? I'm not arguing it went up, but just one year doesn't mean that crime consistently is going up. It may very well continue to go up, but you cant make assumptions that one year up is a trend. And yes, a series of riotous events is rather anomalous to the trends over the last 25 years. You seriously are really bad at this. 1 data point in the up direction does not mean a trend up in crime. If it goes up but 10% the next 3-4 years. I'll be more than happy to fully agree with you. And how can you be pissed at an FBI source? Or you just dont trust anything anymore. You can just cop out butthurtness to try to prove the a point. Show me the alternative history trend that supports your point.
I didn't say it would continue to go up. Perhaps race relations and police relations will improve under Drumpf and violent crime will resume its decline. The simple fact, and only fact, I was making is that there has been a recent uptick in violent crime. That's not a good thing. To pretend it is an anomaly unconnected to current events is DUMB. But keep on going....
You and I have different definitions of an anomaly. You are assuming I'm meaning that the recent rise has no basis in reality and that it's random that crime has gone up. I'm not. What I'm saying is statistically, you cannot make the events of 1 year when out of the last 25 as the trend for it all. If next year and the year after and the year after it continues to climb, then yes, we have a trend set and the uptick wasn't statistically an anomaly. If it goes back down that it'll be one bump in the road and everyone 5-10 years from now will go "oh, what happened then? That sticks out like a sore thumb! 2015 must have been a anomalous year out of the whole thing!" Of course it went up due to recent violence, but it's anomalous to think statistically it matters. If it goes back down, it will literally, statistically be an anomaly. An anomaly doesn't mean there isn't any reason, just a difference outside of a trend, But go on, tell me how I am stupid and don't know statistics. You're being intelligently dishonest in thinking I don't realize that.
After all, it is anomalous wouldn't you agree that after 7 years of the current administration, while you may think things have gotten more crazy, the statistics didn't show any of that, and then it just happens to go up the last year? 7 data points in my court, 1 in yours. You tell me which is the odd year. It should be noted that it does need to be monitored, but until proven a trend, it is an anomaly to the data set so far.
Post by: Panjandrum on December 20, 2016, 09:31:00 AM
school lunches are gross af
this might be true and it might not be. source-one of my kids eats the school lunch every day and loves it. the other has never eaten it and won't for the forseeable future.
fact check ruling-need more data
I'm five pages late on this, but I had lunch with my son a couple of months ago, and that chicken fried steak was the best I've had outside of Strouds.
Ruling: School lunches are good!
Post by: Tobias on December 20, 2016, 09:32:57 AM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on December 20, 2016, 09:34:01 AM
Your graphs stop at 2014. So that's probably ok then.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2016/09/26/violent-crime-and-murders-both-went-up-in-2015-fbi-says/?utm_term=.eea462d925b6 (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2016/09/26/violent-crime-and-murders-both-went-up-in-2015-fbi-says/?utm_term=.eea462d925b6)
I might add ""Fact Checking" organization are increasingly partisan, both in the issues they choose to evaluate and how they evaluate them" to the list.
violent crime rates are 50% less than they were 25 years ago. you are delusional.
You might go back and read what I said. You also might stop and ask yourself, WGAF what violent crime was like 25 years ago if violent crime is suddenly on the rise now? If there was a sudden measles epidemic in this country, people wouldn't be saying "yeah, but compared to the 1800s...."
One data point out of 25 is statically an anomaly until proven a trend? Also, perspective matters :dunno: so many false equivalencies.
No that's fine, go ahead and pretend this is just an anomaly, and there is no connection to the wave of riots sweeping thru the cities this year. Jussssst an anomaly.
Daris you're making pretty much the same point but I'm not going to respond separately because you're just butthurt about getting burned by politifact.
Trends matter. It is an anomaly until proven a trend. Like, seriously how thick can you be? I'm not arguing it went up, but just one year doesn't mean that crime consistently is going up. It may very well continue to go up, but you cant make assumptions that one year up is a trend. And yes, a series of riotous events is rather anomalous to the trends over the last 25 years. You seriously are really bad at this. 1 data point in the up direction does not mean a trend up in crime. If it goes up but 10% the next 3-4 years. I'll be more than happy to fully agree with you. And how can you be pissed at an FBI source? Or you just dont trust anything anymore. You can just cop out butthurtness to try to prove the a point. Show me the alternative history trend that supports your point.
I didn't say it would continue to go up. Perhaps race relations and police relations will improve under Drumpf and violent crime will resume its decline. The simple fact, and only fact, I was making is that there has been a recent uptick in violent crime. That's not a good thing. To pretend it is an anomaly unconnected to current events is DUMB. But keep on going....
You and I have different definitions of an anomaly. You are assuming I'm meaning that the recent rise has no basis in reality and that it's random that crime has gone up. I'm not. What I'm saying is statistically, you cannot make the events of 1 year when out of the last 25 as the trend for it all. If next year and the year after and the year after it continues to climb, then yes, we have a trend set and the uptick wasn't statistically an anomaly. If it goes back down that it'll be one bump in the road and everyone 5-10 years from now will go "oh, what happened then? That sticks out like a sore thumb! 2015 must have been a anomalous year out of the whole thing!" Of course it went up due to recent violence, but it's anomalous to think statistically it matters. If it goes back down, it will literally, statistically be an anomaly. An anomaly doesn't mean there isn't any reason, just a difference outside of a trend, But go on, tell me how I am stupid and don't know statistics. You're being intelligently dishonest in thinking I don't realize that.
After all, it is anomalous wouldn't you agree that after 7 years of the current administration, while you may think things have gotten more crazy, the statistics didn't show any of that, and then it just happens to go up the last year? 7 data points in my court, 1 in yours. You tell me which is the odd year. It should be noted that it does need to be monitored, but until proven a trend, it is an anomaly to the data set so far.
It didn't even go up enough to stick out on the bigger graph. There might be some merit in suggesting that the graph covers too long of a time period, though.
Post by: Panjandrum on December 20, 2016, 09:40:05 AM
Post by: star seed 7 on December 20, 2016, 09:42:18 AM
Post by: Panjandrum on December 20, 2016, 09:42:28 AM
Post by: Panjandrum on December 20, 2016, 09:43:25 AM
Violent crime will probably continue to rise with trump's violent and racist rhetoric. It's not statistically anomalous that crime started to trend up when he gained popularity among the low iq crowd.
Well, when you plunge the toilet, it isn't clean water that comes back up, lib.
Post by: ChiComCat on December 20, 2016, 09:46:43 AM
Post by: Panjandrum on December 20, 2016, 09:55:22 AM
Where do you get the un-biased stats K-S-U?
AngryPatriotAmerica!BaldEagleJesus.com
Post by: OK_Cat on December 20, 2016, 09:58:15 AM
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Post by: Dr Rick Daris on December 20, 2016, 10:15:55 AM
There is literally no aspect of life from 20 years ago that is better than what we have in 2016. We are blessed, friends.
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one thing that is absolutely worse is the cost of skiing. I remember when you could stop at a dillons in Denver and get $35 tickets to breck. :frown:
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 20, 2016, 10:19:20 AM
Post by: star seed 7 on December 20, 2016, 10:23:27 AM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 20, 2016, 10:25:03 AM
Post by: OK_Cat on December 20, 2016, 10:31:04 AM
There is literally no aspect of life from 20 years ago that is better than what we have in 2016. We are blessed, friends.
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one thing that is absolutely worse is the cost of skiing. I remember when you could stop at a dillons in Denver and get $35 tickets to breck. :frown:
Well crap, we really do need to make America great again
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Post by: star seed 7 on December 20, 2016, 10:37:35 AM
Post by: CNS on December 20, 2016, 10:38:00 AM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 20, 2016, 10:39:22 AM
Def don't want higher taxes. Between taxes and Soc Sec, I am paying about three F35's a year as it is.Yup. Apparently Lib loves giving away his $ tho. :frown: I feel like it's safer and will go further in my hands. :D
Post by: chum1 on December 20, 2016, 10:41:42 AM
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Last year, 54 percent of skier visits, defined as one skier or snowboarder riding for one day, came from households earning more than $100,000, according to the National Ski Areas Association (NSAA). That's up from 48 percent five years ago, a 12.5 percent increase.
In contrast, visits from households earning less than $100,000 during the same period slipped from 52 percent to 46 percent — an 11.5 percent decrease.
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The average weekend lift-ticket price last season was $85.52, which was actually a bargain compared to the $129 you’d have paid if you walked up to a ticket window at Vail or Beaver Creek last Christmas. This year, Deer Valley, Jackson Hole, Park City and Sun Valley have all joined Aspen and Vail in charging $100 or more for a lift ticket during peak periods.
http://www.nbcnews.com/business/travel/high-peaks-lofty-prices-skiing-increasingly-pricing-out-middle-class-f2D11619010
Post by: star seed 7 on December 20, 2016, 10:43:21 AM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 20, 2016, 10:44:51 AM
Post by: star seed 7 on December 20, 2016, 10:45:19 AM
Post by: chum1 on December 20, 2016, 10:46:14 AM
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Nobody ever accused Vail of being a cheap mountain. But the latest price bump — $160 for a single-day adult holiday ticket — is getting chowder lovers to sit up and take notice.
...
Breckenridge, also owned by Vail Resorts, raised ticket prices from $140 to $145. Deer Valley, Utah, went from $114 to $120. Park City, Utah, raised prices to $115, and Whistler/Blackcomb, in British Columbia, upped its rate to $119 (Canadian).
According to the Aspen Daily News, single-day tickets at resorts owned by SkiCo (which manages Aspen Mountain, Aspen Highlands, Snowmass and Buttermilk) have gone up 65% since 2005.
https://gearjunkie.com/vail-lift-tickets-price-increase
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 20, 2016, 10:46:40 AM
Post by: steve dave on December 20, 2016, 10:47:49 AM
Post by: Skipper44 on December 20, 2016, 10:49:06 AM
Post by: Kat Kid on December 20, 2016, 10:49:33 AM
I'm not going down this rabbit hole with you. If you hate $, then cool, I don't. I pay $700 a month on student loans and my wife is unemployed, i'd like to have more of it.
pull yourself up by your bootstraps and stop begging for a government handout.
Post by: Dugout DickStone on December 20, 2016, 10:50:35 AM
I'm not going down this rabbit hole with you. If you hate $, then cool, I don't. I pay $700 a month on student loans and my wife is unemployed, i'd like to have more of it.
I hope she isn't collecting gov handouts
Post by: star seed 7 on December 20, 2016, 10:50:46 AM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on December 20, 2016, 10:51:23 AM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 20, 2016, 10:53:24 AM
When were taxes lower than they are now?They weren't.
Post by: steve dave on December 20, 2016, 10:53:57 AM
I've never been skiing, but would like to go. Do you have to buy all the "gear" or can you just rent that crap at a mountain?
you can rent at the mountain or in denver or like on every single street corner
Post by: chum1 on December 20, 2016, 10:54:23 AM
Is it still super pud easy to use your CO buds annual lift ticket at all the mountains or have they made that harder? I haven't been in over a trillion years.
I don't know, but photo IDing people when they're all bundled up would be tough. I imagine more and more people will start sharing passes. Then, costs will continue to rise to compensate. And, someday, a million people will share a season pass that costs a billion dollars.
Post by: steve dave on December 20, 2016, 10:55:33 AM
Is it still super pud easy to use your CO buds annual lift ticket at all the mountains or have they made that harder? I haven't been in over a trillion years.
I don't know, but photo IDing people when they're all bundled up would be tough. I imagine more and more people will start sharing passes. Then, costs will continue to rise to compensate. And, someday, a million people will share a season pass that costs a billion dollars.
we used to use our buds summit county annual passes all the time. it had this really terrible photo of them on it but it was so crappy my wife could have used it.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 20, 2016, 10:56:40 AM
When were taxes lower than they are now?Obama raised them 10% http://federal-tax-rates.insidegov.com/
Post by: chum1 on December 20, 2016, 10:59:27 AM
Post by: star seed 7 on December 20, 2016, 11:00:07 AM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on December 20, 2016, 11:01:30 AM
When were taxes lower than they are now?Obama raised them 10% http://federal-tax-rates.insidegov.com/
Looks like Herbert Hoover was the last time for those of us who don't earn more than $450,000 per year.
Post by: star seed 7 on December 20, 2016, 11:02:12 AM
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on December 20, 2016, 11:03:09 AM
2015:QuoteNobody ever accused Vail of being a cheap mountain. But the latest price bump — $160 for a single-day adult holiday ticket — is getting chowder lovers to sit up and take notice.
...
Breckenridge, also owned by Vail Resorts, raised ticket prices from $140 to $145. Deer Valley, Utah, went from $114 to $120. Park City, Utah, raised prices to $115, and Whistler/Blackcomb, in British Columbia, upped its rate to $119 (Canadian).
According to the Aspen Daily News, single-day tickets at resorts owned by SkiCo (which manages Aspen Mountain, Aspen Highlands, Snowmass and Buttermilk) have gone up 65% since 2005.
https://gearjunkie.com/vail-lift-tickets-price-increase
true story alert- when we went skiing last year, we went to monarch. mainly because I hadn't been to that part of Colorado for a while and I wanted to see the springs, Manitou, woodland park, etc. but also because it was going to cost half as much. :frown:
Post by: steve dave on December 20, 2016, 11:03:19 AM
When were taxes lower than they are now?Obama raised them 10% http://federal-tax-rates.insidegov.com/
mods, change his name to superrichcat08
Post by: Kat Kid on December 20, 2016, 11:03:29 AM
When were taxes lower than they are now?Obama raised them 10% http://federal-tax-rates.insidegov.com/
not for you he didn't.
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on December 20, 2016, 11:04:28 AM
"Jeff Sessions, FBI, the new President's a racist guy. School lunches, climate change, Starbucks has us in a rage. No Nintendos in the stores, I CAN'T TAKE IT ANYMORE!!!"
I got one this morning. :gocho:
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on December 20, 2016, 11:05:48 AM
1)cost of healthcare
2)cost of college
3)cost to ski
if trump can fix even 2 of these 3 things, he will have earned my vote in four years.
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on December 20, 2016, 11:10:06 AM
Your graphs stop at 2014. So that's probably ok then.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2016/09/26/violent-crime-and-murders-both-went-up-in-2015-fbi-says/?utm_term=.eea462d925b6 (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2016/09/26/violent-crime-and-murders-both-went-up-in-2015-fbi-says/?utm_term=.eea462d925b6)
I might add ""Fact Checking" organization are increasingly partisan, both in the issues they choose to evaluate and how they evaluate them" to the list.
violent crime rates are 50% less than they were 25 years ago. you are delusional.
You might go back and read what I said. You also might stop and ask yourself, WGAF what violent crime was like 25 years ago if violent crime is suddenly on the rise now? If there was a sudden measles epidemic in this country, people wouldn't be saying "yeah, but compared to the 1800s...."
One data point out of 25 is statically an anomaly until proven a trend? Also, perspective matters :dunno: so many false equivalencies.
No that's fine, go ahead and pretend this is just an anomaly, and there is no connection to the wave of riots sweeping thru the cities this year. Jussssst an anomaly.
Daris you're making pretty much the same point but I'm not going to respond separately because you're just butthurt about getting burned by politifact.
Trends matter. It is an anomaly until proven a trend. Like, seriously how thick can you be? I'm not arguing it went up, but just one year doesn't mean that crime consistently is going up. It may very well continue to go up, but you cant make assumptions that one year up is a trend. And yes, a series of riotous events is rather anomalous to the trends over the last 25 years. You seriously are really bad at this. 1 data point in the up direction does not mean a trend up in crime. If it goes up but 10% the next 3-4 years. I'll be more than happy to fully agree with you. And how can you be pissed at an FBI source? Or you just dont trust anything anymore. You can just cop out butthurtness to try to prove the a point. Show me the alternative history trend that supports your point.
I didn't say it would continue to go up. Perhaps race relations and police relations will improve under Drumpf and violent crime will resume its decline. The simple fact, and only fact, I was making is that there has been a recent uptick in violent crime. That's not a good thing. To pretend it is an anomaly unconnected to current events is DUMB. But keep on going....
You and I have different definitions of an anomaly. You are assuming I'm meaning that the recent rise has no basis in reality and that it's random that crime has gone up. I'm not. What I'm saying is statistically, you cannot make the events of 1 year when out of the last 25 as the trend for it all. If next year and the year after and the year after it continues to climb, then yes, we have a trend set and the uptick wasn't statistically an anomaly. If it goes back down that it'll be one bump in the road and everyone 5-10 years from now will go "oh, what happened then? That sticks out like a sore thumb! 2015 must have been a anomalous year out of the whole thing!" Of course it went up due to recent violence, but it's anomalous to think statistically it matters. If it goes back down, it will literally, statistically be an anomaly. An anomaly doesn't mean there isn't any reason, just a difference outside of a trend, But go on, tell me how I am stupid and don't know statistics. You're being intelligently dishonest in thinking I don't realize that.
After all, it is anomalous wouldn't you agree that after 7 years of the current administration, while you may think things have gotten more crazy, the statistics didn't show any of that, and then it just happens to go up the last year? 7 data points in my court, 1 in yours. You tell me which is the odd year. It should be noted that it does need to be monitored, but until proven a trend, it is an anomaly to the data set so far.
Now you're just blustering, arguing over semantics of what constitutes an anomaly. My entire point is that violent crime is up because of the recent civil unrest. You don't seem to be disputing this, so now you're just arguing over whether the data is nevertheless an anomaly. You sound like Sys. Nobody gives a crap. You've conceded the point, move on.
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on December 20, 2016, 11:12:26 AM
I have no problem paying taxes, it's what civilized society does
What was your effective federal tax rate last year? Don't feel compared to share, but I'm gonna go ahead and assume it was less than 10%.
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on December 20, 2016, 11:15:30 AM
I have no problem paying taxes, it's what civilized society does
What was your effective tax rate last year?
true story- if forced to guess my effective tax rate from last year, I probably couldn't get you within 7% either way. 40%? 16%? 27%? absolutely no clue.
Post by: chum1 on December 20, 2016, 11:16:19 AM
:love:
Post by: Tobias on December 20, 2016, 11:17:38 AM
Post by: star seed 7 on December 20, 2016, 11:18:34 AM
I love this part coming up where KSUW starts going off on how bad he is at managing his money!
:love:
Just can't live within his means :frown:
Post by: Dugout DickStone on December 20, 2016, 11:19:42 AM
I have no problem paying taxes, it's what civilized society does
What was your effective tax rate last year?
true story- if forced to guess my effective tax rate from last year, I probably couldn't get you within 7% either way. 40%? 16%? 27%? absolutely no clue.
ditto but our accountants say they are doing their best to make it the lowest and I trust them
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on December 20, 2016, 11:20:06 AM
I have no problem paying taxes, it's what civilized society does
What was your effective tax rate last year?
true story- if forced to guess my effective tax rate from last year, I probably couldn't get you within 7% either way. 40%? 16%? 27%? absolutely no clue.
Just take what you actually paid in federal income tax divided by your AGI. Both numbers are on your tax return.
Post by: Tobias on December 20, 2016, 11:21:03 AM
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on December 20, 2016, 11:21:25 AM
I love this part coming up where KSUW starts going off on how bad he is at managing his money!
:love:
Sorry, you'll have to wait a little longer. I'll dust off that thread when I finish my 2016 return.
Post by: star seed 7 on December 20, 2016, 11:22:06 AM
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on December 20, 2016, 11:22:37 AM
ksuw is stuck in "upper middle class" purgatory due to taxes, that's what wrong with this country rick
Nah, more like lower upper class tax purgatory. It's hard to be a HENRY.
Post by: Tobias on December 20, 2016, 11:23:12 AM
Post by: Panjandrum on December 20, 2016, 11:31:11 AM
That's great, lib, we all pay taxes. But there's a lot of $ we're missing out on of our paychecks. Especially social security, which we'll never see.
Social Security will probably be gone, but it will most likely be replaced with the universal basic income after the robots take all of the jobs people without a college degree have today.
http://www.cnbc.com/2016/11/18/elon-musk-says-robots-will-push-us-to-a-universal-basic-income-heres-how-it-would-work.html (http://www.cnbc.com/2016/11/18/elon-musk-says-robots-will-push-us-to-a-universal-basic-income-heres-how-it-would-work.html)
This is why it's so hilarious to see the white, working class Trump supporters bent out of shape over jobs. The vast majority of them won't have the knowledge or skills to work in the coming economy anyway. They're just speeding up their own demise by pushing the Bannon agenda.
Post by: Dugout DickStone on December 20, 2016, 11:32:25 AM
ksuw is stuck in "upper middle class" purgatory due to taxes, that's what wrong with this country rick
Nah, more like lower upper class tax purgatory. It's hard to be a HENRY.
try being a HIRN. It is awesome as hell
Post by: Panjandrum on December 20, 2016, 11:33:15 AM
"Jeff Sessions, FBI, the new President's a racist guy. School lunches, climate change, Starbucks has us in a rage. No Nintendos in the stores, I CAN'T TAKE IT ANYMORE!!!"
I got one this morning. :gocho:
I almost swung by Target after I dropped off the kids at school. I guess I should have. :cry:
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on December 20, 2016, 11:34:09 AM
I have no problem paying taxes, it's what civilized society does
What was your effective tax rate last year?
true story- if forced to guess my effective tax rate from last year, I probably couldn't get you within 7% either way. 40%? 16%? 27%? absolutely no clue.
Just take what you actually paid in federal income tax divided by your AGI. Both numbers are on your tax return.
I think I can do this! what is a good effective tax rate and what's a bad one? like, what should I be shooting for? how will I know if I'm getting screwed or if I'm sticking it to the man or whatever the goal is?
Post by: CNS on December 20, 2016, 11:36:45 AM
Post by: star seed 7 on December 20, 2016, 11:43:29 AM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 20, 2016, 11:46:23 AM
Post by: steve dave on December 20, 2016, 11:54:57 AM
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on December 20, 2016, 11:55:35 AM
Post by: Tobias on December 20, 2016, 11:59:34 AM
Post by: Dugout DickStone on December 20, 2016, 12:01:21 PM
I pay shitloads in taxes. it sucks, trust me.
its awful. Guess what sucks huge: property taxes on 2 homes
Post by: star seed 7 on December 20, 2016, 12:01:54 PM
6.4% but have no idea if this is good or bad :ohno:
It means you pay less taxes than me you son of a bitch
Post by: star seed 7 on December 20, 2016, 12:03:45 PM
Post by: gatoveintisiete on December 20, 2016, 12:32:43 PM
Post by: CNS on December 20, 2016, 12:43:51 PM
Post by: Dugout DickStone on December 20, 2016, 12:45:24 PM
The idea of property tax really makes you want to be as repub as possible. Paying tax on something you own already and already paid taxes on when you bought it. It's pretty mumped up.
Imagine this: bought boat that doesn't use roads or traffic lights or the highway and you still pay property taxes on it.
that's pretty stupid right?
Post by: CNS on December 20, 2016, 12:48:08 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on December 20, 2016, 12:49:44 PM
The idea of property tax really makes you want to be as repub as possible. Paying tax on something you own already and already paid taxes on when you bought it. It's pretty mumped up.
I agree with this. It is pretty weird when you think about it.
Post by: Cartierfor3 on December 20, 2016, 12:56:47 PM
I mean the Yankees haven't really been relevant since like 2009. That's awesome.
Post by: star seed 7 on December 20, 2016, 12:57:38 PM
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on December 20, 2016, 01:01:57 PM
Nfl ratings tho
you have bad/old data. nfl ratings are actually suddenly on the rise to the point that some think it's an epidemic of sudden out of control nfl watching...
http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/18293616/nfl-television-ratings-slightly-us-presidential-election
Post by: Cartierfor3 on December 20, 2016, 01:03:44 PM
Post by: Tobias on December 20, 2016, 01:04:16 PM
The idea of property tax really makes you want to be as repub as possible. Paying tax on something you own already and already paid taxes on when you bought it. It's pretty mumped up.
they count it twice, so i count it twice. my effective tax rate is like 78% and i just can't catch a break
Post by: Cartierfor3 on December 20, 2016, 01:05:14 PM
Post by: CNS on December 20, 2016, 01:06:55 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on December 20, 2016, 01:07:55 PM
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on December 20, 2016, 01:08:22 PM
in the 90s there were like 2 places to get craft beer or specialty coffee. now they are everywhere. just like Dr Daris said about pizza
yeah, I was going to mention this as well. true craft beer story alert...a buddy was in Colorado the other week and some craft beer loving locals told him that Colorado craft beer was played and everybody has moved onto Montana brews. i mean how do you hear that and not smile broadly?
Post by: CNS on December 20, 2016, 01:08:37 PM
Post by: CNS on December 20, 2016, 01:09:07 PM
in the 90s there were like 2 places to get craft beer or specialty coffee. now they are everywhere. just like Dr Daris said about pizza
yeah, I was going to mention this as well. true craft beer story alert...a buddy was in Colorado the other week and some craft beer loving locals told him that Colorado craft beer was played and everybody has moved onto Montana brews. i mean how do you hear that and not smile broadly?
That sounds like an elaborate real estate scam to me. :dunno:
Post by: star seed 7 on December 20, 2016, 01:10:15 PM
Post by: Cartierfor3 on December 20, 2016, 01:10:55 PM
Post by: Cartierfor3 on December 20, 2016, 01:12:28 PM
Post by: CNS on December 20, 2016, 01:15:29 PM
Also,
Remember catalogs? WTF? Amirite!?!?!?!
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on December 20, 2016, 01:16:28 PM
Post by: Cartierfor3 on December 20, 2016, 01:16:48 PM
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Post by: star seed 7 on December 20, 2016, 01:20:49 PM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on December 20, 2016, 01:21:58 PM
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on December 20, 2016, 01:22:13 PM
thought of one that's bad. people litter like constantly. i hate that. add that to things we gotta work on
littering rate is actually down 61% over the last 40 years. America (as a whole) is getting way better at this and is better than most. go America! you're doing pretty darn good pal!
Post by: CNS on December 20, 2016, 01:22:51 PM
What network shows did you used to watch, CNS?
Nothing really standing out, so maybe it's just nostalgia. :dunno:
One thing I have run across: Going back on Netflix now to watch stuff I used to really like when I was a kid is partially ruining my childhood. I mean, go watch Ateam, quantum leap, McGuiver(SP) now. If made to stand on their own now, they suck.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 20, 2016, 01:23:23 PM
AIDS is still around, wacky. You don't have to be so sad.Like barely anymore. I was never even terrified to have sex with strangers growing up. I wonder what that must have felt like.
Post by: Dugout DickStone on December 20, 2016, 01:27:32 PM
What network shows did you used to watch, CNS?
Nothing really standing out, so maybe it's just nostalgia. :dunno:
One thing I have run across: Going back on Netflix now to watch stuff I used to really like when I was a kid is partially ruining my childhood. I mean, go watch Ateam, quantum leap, McGuiver(SP) now. If made to stand on their own now, they suck.
yeah I saw an Ateam the other day and I could not believe how bad it sucked. I mean Faceman is still awesome and kind of like me but yuck
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on December 20, 2016, 01:28:46 PM
Post by: Skipper44 on December 20, 2016, 01:36:19 PM
Them Duke Boys still stand up tho! those 70's & 80s stunt men were the real dealWhat network shows did you used to watch, CNS?
Nothing really standing out, so maybe it's just nostalgia. :dunno:
One thing I have run across: Going back on Netflix now to watch stuff I used to really like when I was a kid is partially ruining my childhood. I mean, go watch Ateam, quantum leap, McGuiver(SP) now. If made to stand on their own now, they suck.
yeah I saw an Ateam the other day and I could not believe how bad it sucked. I mean Faceman is still awesome and kind of like me but yuck
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on December 20, 2016, 01:37:23 PM
Post by: Skipper44 on December 20, 2016, 01:37:52 PM
also paying 40ish% road tax on gas for something that doesn't use roads :angry:The idea of property tax really makes you want to be as repub as possible. Paying tax on something you own already and already paid taxes on when you bought it. It's pretty mumped up.
Imagine this: bought boat that doesn't use roads or traffic lights or the highway and you still pay property taxes on it.
that's pretty stupid right?
Post by: CNS on December 20, 2016, 01:38:58 PM
Lots of people are afraid to eat gluten now.
99% of those ppl are dumb dumbs(science).
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on December 20, 2016, 01:40:22 PM
Post by: Dugout DickStone on December 20, 2016, 01:52:20 PM
Them Duke Boys still stand up tho! those 70's & 80s stunt men were the real dealWhat network shows did you used to watch, CNS?
Nothing really standing out, so maybe it's just nostalgia. :dunno:
One thing I have run across: Going back on Netflix now to watch stuff I used to really like when I was a kid is partially ruining my childhood. I mean, go watch Ateam, quantum leap, McGuiver(SP) now. If made to stand on their own now, they suck.
yeah I saw an Ateam the other day and I could not believe how bad it sucked. I mean Faceman is still awesome and kind of like me but yuck
this reminds me, I can't fly my rebel flag without being shamed anymore
Post by: sonofdaxjones on December 20, 2016, 01:58:20 PM
Too many brewers trolling nasty bilge water.
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on December 20, 2016, 01:59:20 PM
Post by: OK_Cat on December 20, 2016, 02:04:37 PM
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Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 20, 2016, 02:12:56 PM
Post by: CNS on December 20, 2016, 02:14:27 PM
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on December 20, 2016, 02:22:13 PM
The idea of property tax really makes you want to be as repub as possible. Paying tax on something you own already and already paid taxes on when you bought it. It's pretty mumped up.
I agree with this. It is pretty weird when you think about it.
It's awful. It means you never really own land because the minute you stop paying your taxes the government takes it away from you.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on December 20, 2016, 02:25:08 PM
The idea of property tax really makes you want to be as repub as possible. Paying tax on something you own already and already paid taxes on when you bought it. It's pretty mumped up.
I agree with this. It is pretty weird when you think about it.
It's awful. It means you never really own land because the minute you stop paying your taxes the government takes it away from you.
Hey little old lady who didn't pay your $400 tax bill on the house and land you've "owned" for 5 decades. We're coming.
Warmest Regards:
Your local government enterprise
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on December 20, 2016, 02:26:09 PM
I looked it up, just for ksuw, last year was not (!) below 10%
:cheers: Now add in your state income tax, social security, medicare, property tax, and sales tax. We'll make a conservative out of you yet.
Post by: Dugout DickStone on December 20, 2016, 02:26:40 PM
The idea of property tax really makes you want to be as repub as possible. Paying tax on something you own already and already paid taxes on when you bought it. It's pretty mumped up.
I agree with this. It is pretty weird when you think about it.
It's awful. It means you never really own land because the minute you stop paying your taxes the government takes it away from you.
you never really own a sick 4 Winns power boat either.
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on December 20, 2016, 02:29:53 PM
AIDS is still around, wacky. You don't have to be so sad.Like barely anymore. I was never even terrified to have sex with strangers growing up. I wonder what that must have felt like.
When I was in high school, they made us watch some lifetime-ish movie about a girl who got HIV from having unprotected sex with a guy. I think that's maybe the least likely way to contract HIV other than sitting on a toilet seat. But even today, I would really prefer to not have HIV.
Post by: star seed 7 on December 20, 2016, 02:44:32 PM
I looked it up, just for ksuw, last year was not (!) below 10%
:cheers: Now add in your state income tax, social security, medicare, property tax, and sales tax. We'll make a conservative out of you yet.
I pay that stuff too and it doesn't bother me one bit. I enjoy living in a civilized society
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on December 20, 2016, 02:48:25 PM
Post by: CNS on December 20, 2016, 02:49:21 PM
My property taxes are about 2/3 the monthly cost that my entire rent and utilities were my senior year in college.
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on December 20, 2016, 02:52:15 PM
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Post by: Rage Against the McKee on December 20, 2016, 02:57:25 PM
Post by: Kat Kid on December 20, 2016, 03:33:15 PM
The idea of property tax really makes you want to be as repub as possible. Paying tax on something you own already and already paid taxes on when you bought it. It's pretty mumped up.
I agree with this. It is pretty weird when you think about it.
It's awful. It means you never really own land because the minute you stop paying your taxes the government takes it away from you.
Hey little old lady who didn't pay your $400 tax bill on the house and land you've "owned" for 5 decades. We're coming.
Warmest Regards:
Your local government enterprise
property tax for land is really the tax that makes the most sense to be levied. Income/investment taxes make lots of sense as transfer payments/social welfare. Creating a market for carbon as a consumption tax to capture the negative externalities makes sense.
Sales tax doesn't make any sense to me at all (and it is the most cheated on of any tax). T
Post by: sonofdaxjones on December 20, 2016, 03:35:32 PM
The idea of property tax really makes you want to be as repub as possible. Paying tax on something you own already and already paid taxes on when you bought it. It's pretty mumped up.
I agree with this. It is pretty weird when you think about it.
It's awful. It means you never really own land because the minute you stop paying your taxes the government takes it away from you.
Hey little old lady who didn't pay your $400 tax bill on the house and land you've "owned" for 5 decades. We're coming.
Warmest Regards:
Your local government enterprise
property tax for land is really the only tax that makes any god damn sense to be levied. Income/investment taxes make lots of sense as transfer payments/social welfare. Creating a market for carbon as a consumption tax to capture the negative externalities makes sense.
Sales tax doesn't make any sense to me at all (and it is the most cheated on of any tax). T
I didn't say properly tax didn't make sense, what makes no sense is the absurdity that govt can confiscate the land over minor amounts of back taxes.
Post by: Kat Kid on December 20, 2016, 03:38:32 PM
Post by: CNS on December 20, 2016, 03:40:09 PM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 20, 2016, 03:54:32 PM
Post by: Kat Kid on December 20, 2016, 03:54:42 PM
Sales tax makes the most sense to me. Its a transaction. Owning land today that you paid for years ago isn't.
Why should a transaction between two individuals be taxed? There are plenty of times that the government should force the terms to be public, but I don't know why there should be a tax.
Land is finite, very valuable. The government secures, protects it, and provides infrastructure to support it. This provides a lot of land's value through these efforts. Taxing it is entirely appropriate.
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on December 20, 2016, 03:59:42 PM
I looked it up, just for ksuw, last year was not (!) below 10%
:cheers: Now add in your state income tax, social security, medicare, property tax, and sales tax. We'll make a conservative out of you yet.
I pay that stuff too and it doesn't bother me one bit. I enjoy living in a civilized society
I agree. also makes me think that people who complain about taxes are probably living on the edge of financial security and could benefit from creating a budget.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 20, 2016, 04:02:05 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on December 20, 2016, 04:03:25 PM
I looked it up, just for ksuw, last year was not (!) below 10%
:cheers: Now add in your state income tax, social security, medicare, property tax, and sales tax. We'll make a conservative out of you yet.
I pay that stuff too and it doesn't bother me one bit. I enjoy living in a civilized society
I agree. also makes me think that people who complain about taxes are probably living on the edge of financial security and could benefit from creating a budget.
That is definitely a problem in modern America
Post by: bubbles4ksu on December 20, 2016, 04:07:49 PM
they could also ask their employer for more cash and find a balance that way.I looked it up, just for ksuw, last year was not (!) below 10%
:cheers: Now add in your state income tax, social security, medicare, property tax, and sales tax. We'll make a conservative out of you yet.
I pay that stuff too and it doesn't bother me one bit. I enjoy living in a civilized society
I agree. also makes me think that people who complain about taxes are probably living on the edge of financial security and could benefit from creating a budget.
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on December 20, 2016, 04:30:49 PM
I looked it up, just for ksuw, last year was not (!) below 10%
:cheers: Now add in your state income tax, social security, medicare, property tax, and sales tax. We'll make a conservative out of you yet.
I pay that stuff too and it doesn't bother me one bit. I enjoy living in a civilized society
Sigh... I guess we're gonna have to dig a little deeper into the personal stuff. I'm guessing no wife and no kids?
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on December 20, 2016, 04:34:06 PM
they could also ask their employer for more cash and find a balance that way.I looked it up, just for ksuw, last year was not (!) below 10%
:cheers: Now add in your state income tax, social security, medicare, property tax, and sales tax. We'll make a conservative out of you yet.
I pay that stuff too and it doesn't bother me one bit. I enjoy living in a civilized society
I agree. also makes me think that people who complain about taxes are probably living on the edge of financial security and could benefit from creating a budget.
or just work harder and earn more money. some people just like to complain though.
Post by: Asteriskhead on December 20, 2016, 04:35:57 PM
Put artisanal beer on the negative list for me
are you hating on one of the only growing manufacturing industries in the country?
Post by: Asteriskhead on December 20, 2016, 04:40:32 PM
this is the mental image i get every time someone complains about taxes.
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on December 20, 2016, 04:41:28 PM
Sales tax makes the most sense to me. Its a transaction. Owning land today that you paid for years ago isn't.
Why should a transaction between two individuals be taxed? There are plenty of times that the government should force the terms to be public, but I don't know why there should be a tax.
Land is finite, very valuable. The government secures, protects it, and provides infrastructure to support it. This provides a lot of land's value through these efforts. Taxing it is entirely appropriate.
Yeah. Property tax is mostly a local tax and it makes sense that those who benefit the most from decisions their local government makes (school location, etc) would pay the highest tax to support those improvements.
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on December 20, 2016, 04:44:32 PM
The right to private property ownership is also pretty fundamental to this country (I don't expect liberals to really "get" that or respect it, but it is). Taxing someone in perpetuity just to keep something they already purchased is absurdly unfair.
And if your position is that we should have property tax, but we shouldn't really enforce it on little old ladies who get behind on their tax bills, you're just proving the problem with property tax.
Sales tax is the least worst across-the-board tax. We should pay for more things based upon usage, like toll roads and private schools.
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on December 20, 2016, 04:45:34 PM
Post by: CNS on December 20, 2016, 04:57:52 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on December 20, 2016, 05:01:07 PM
Estate/Death tax is super mumped too, you guys.
Naw
Post by: CNS on December 20, 2016, 05:01:48 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on December 20, 2016, 05:02:20 PM
Post by: Dugout DickStone on December 20, 2016, 05:02:45 PM
Or some ppl just look at their pay stubs every once and awhile and they're like "Holy eff! That's what I could be making if all this crap wasn't taken out of it? Damn! That's a lot of cheddar going to random places and I don't even know what they're using it for"
pay quarterly and see what you think
Post by: CNS on December 20, 2016, 05:02:49 PM
Really absurd.
Post by: star seed 7 on December 20, 2016, 05:07:38 PM
I'm in favor of enforcing against little old ladies who don't pay their taxes. If you can't afford your property, sell it to someone who can.
Yeah, seems like a pretty simple solution
Post by: star seed 7 on December 20, 2016, 05:10:16 PM
I looked it up, just for ksuw, last year was not (!) below 10%
:cheers: Now add in your state income tax, social security, medicare, property tax, and sales tax. We'll make a conservative out of you yet.
I pay that stuff too and it doesn't bother me one bit. I enjoy living in a civilized society
Sigh... I guess we're gonna have to dig a little deeper into the personal stuff. I'm guessing no wife and no kids?
I'm not sure why this matters
Post by: chum1 on December 20, 2016, 05:14:44 PM
Post by: Dugout DickStone on December 20, 2016, 05:15:20 PM
Taxed when earned if income, when purchased if an asset, yearly as property, then just because dad dies, the govt gets another chunk.
Really absurd.
Only for super wealthy
Post by: chum1 on December 20, 2016, 05:23:15 PM
Post by: Asteriskhead on December 20, 2016, 05:38:15 PM
I looked it up, just for ksuw, last year was not (!) below 10%
:cheers: Now add in your state income tax, social security, medicare, property tax, and sales tax. We'll make a conservative out of you yet.
I pay that stuff too and it doesn't bother me one bit. I enjoy living in a civilized society
Sigh... I guess we're gonna have to dig a little deeper into the personal stuff. I'm guessing no wife and no kids?
I'm not sure why this matters
You're aren't a contributing member of society unless you're married, pump out four droolers, and bitch about why all of your problems are other peoples' fault.
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on December 20, 2016, 05:39:26 PM
Post by: Kat Kid on December 20, 2016, 05:44:33 PM
Property tax is double taxation. Taxed once on the purchase, and taxed in perpetuity just for owning it.
The right to private property ownership is also pretty fundamental to this country (I don't expect liberals to really "get" that or respect it, but it is). Taxing someone in perpetuity just to keep something they already purchased is absurdly unfair.
And if your position is that we should have property tax, but we shouldn't really enforce it on little old ladies who get behind on their tax bills, you're just proving the problem with property tax.
Sales tax is the least worst across-the-board tax. We should pay for more things based upon usage, like toll roads and private schools.
What is the "usage" when I purchase groceries from the grocery store? The only reason it is "double taxation" on property taxes is that you are essentially paying a sales tax.
I don't understand how anyone could defend a moral or philosophical basis for sales tax over property tax. Property taxes have been assessed for millennia, it was scourge of sales taxes that prompted our revolution.
Post by: Kat Kid on December 20, 2016, 05:46:07 PM
Post by: Asteriskhead on December 20, 2016, 05:51:24 PM
Property tax is double taxation. Taxed once on the purchase, and taxed in perpetuity just for owning it.
The right to private property ownership is also pretty fundamental to this country (I don't expect liberals to really "get" that or respect it, but it is). Taxing someone in perpetuity just to keep something they already purchased is absurdly unfair.
And if your position is that we should have property tax, but we shouldn't really enforce it on little old ladies who get behind on their tax bills, you're just proving the problem with property tax.
Sales tax is the least worst across-the-board tax. We should pay for more things based upon usage, like toll roads and private schools.
What is the "usage" when I purchase groceries from the grocery store? The only reason it is "double taxation" on property taxes is that you are essentially paying a sales tax.
I don't understand how anyone could defend a moral or philosophical basis for sales tax over property tax. Property taxes have been assessed for millennia, it was scourge of sales taxes that prompted our revolution.
Don't waste your time, KK.
Post by: chum1 on December 20, 2016, 06:00:40 PM
Post by: gatoveintisiete on December 20, 2016, 07:10:35 PM
Property tax is double taxation. Taxed once on the purchase, and taxed in perpetuity just for owning it.
The right to private property ownership is also pretty fundamental to this country (I don't expect liberals to really "get" that or respect it, but it is). Taxing someone in perpetuity just to keep something they already purchased is absurdly unfair.
And if your position is that we should have property tax, but we shouldn't really enforce it on little old ladies who get behind on their tax bills, you're just proving the problem with property tax.
Sales tax is the least worst across-the-board tax. We should pay for more things based upon usage, like toll roads and private schools.
What is the "usage" when I purchase groceries from the grocery store? The only reason it is "double taxation" on property taxes is that you are essentially paying a sales tax.
I don't understand how anyone could defend a moral or philosophical basis for sales tax over property tax. Property taxes have been assessed for millennia, it was scourge of sales taxes that prompted our revolution.
Well for example, the illegal drug bidness is pretty big and untaxed, if the proceeds were taxed sales-tax style when they are used in our economy they wouldn't be?
Post by: ben ji on December 20, 2016, 07:30:29 PM
After work me and a couple of work bros went to a bar and you could get ANY BEER ON TAP FOR 2 DOLLARS. 2 DOLLARS.
I had 3 west coast brews (Lagunitas and 2 deschutes) and my total was SIX DOLLARS.
Post by: Kat Kid on December 20, 2016, 07:54:42 PM
Property tax is double taxation. Taxed once on the purchase, and taxed in perpetuity just for owning it.
The right to private property ownership is also pretty fundamental to this country (I don't expect liberals to really "get" that or respect it, but it is). Taxing someone in perpetuity just to keep something they already purchased is absurdly unfair.
And if your position is that we should have property tax, but we shouldn't really enforce it on little old ladies who get behind on their tax bills, you're just proving the problem with property tax.
Sales tax is the least worst across-the-board tax. We should pay for more things based upon usage, like toll roads and private schools.
What is the "usage" when I purchase groceries from the grocery store? The only reason it is "double taxation" on property taxes is that you are essentially paying a sales tax.
I don't understand how anyone could defend a moral or philosophical basis for sales tax over property tax. Property taxes have been assessed for millennia, it was scourge of sales taxes that prompted our revolution.
Well for example, the illegal drug bidness is pretty big and untaxed, if the proceeds were taxed sales-tax style when they are used in our economy they wouldn't be?
Drug tax stamps are sold in Kansas and lots of other states. I am not against excise taxes for specific areas that have negative externalities (alcohol, gambling, pollution etc.)
Post by: gatoveintisiete on December 20, 2016, 08:04:27 PM
Post by: gatoveintisiete on December 20, 2016, 08:09:07 PM
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on December 20, 2016, 08:21:03 PM
I looked it up, just for ksuw, last year was not (!) below 10%
:cheers: Now add in your state income tax, social security, medicare, property tax, and sales tax. We'll make a conservative out of you yet.
I pay that stuff too and it doesn't bother me one bit. I enjoy living in a civilized society
Sigh... I guess we're gonna have to dig a little deeper into the personal stuff. I'm guessing no wife and no kids?
I'm not sure why this matters
Having a wife and kids is expensive. Worth it, but expensive. If you have fewer expenses and more disposable income, I am not surprised that you are not offended by the amount of taxes you pay. After all, as a liberal you are more wired to the "eh you can afford it so stop complaining" mindset.
As a conservative, it's irrelevant whether I can afford it, the government is taking MY rough ridin' MONEY and they damned well better take as little as possible. But liberal and conservative brains are just wired differently in that regard.
Post by: gatoveintisiete on December 20, 2016, 08:21:38 PM
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on December 20, 2016, 08:24:45 PM
Young wage earners with no kids send welfare benefits to breeders like KSUW and I, no clue why he is casting aspersions on them.
My kids are going to pay for your welfare once you can no longer support yourself. You'll be a sponge most of your life. And I can pretty much guarantee I'm going to end up paying a significantly higher effective rate, and way way way more in total tax dollars than you, even after those dependent deductions.
Post by: star seed 7 on December 20, 2016, 08:31:58 PM
I looked it up, just for ksuw, last year was not (!) below 10%
:cheers: Now add in your state income tax, social security, medicare, property tax, and sales tax. We'll make a conservative out of you yet.
I pay that stuff too and it doesn't bother me one bit. I enjoy living in a civilized society
Sigh... I guess we're gonna have to dig a little deeper into the personal stuff. I'm guessing no wife and no kids?
I'm not sure why this matters
Having a wife and kids is expensive. Worth it, but expensive. If you have fewer expenses and more disposable income, I am not surprised that you are not offended by the amount of taxes you pay. After all, as a liberal you are more wired to the "eh you can afford it so stop complaining" mindset.
As a conservative, it's irrelevant whether I can afford it, the government is taking MY rough ridin' MONEY and they damned well better take as little as possible. But liberal and conservative brains are just wired differently in that regard.
Rick, can you get this guy set up with a budget?
Post by: Asteriskhead on December 20, 2016, 08:59:09 PM
Alright guys, another OMG this country is so great moment happened tonight.
After work me and a couple of work bros went to a bar and you could get ANY BEER ON TAP FOR 2 DOLLARS. 2 DOLLARS.
I had 3 west coast brews (Lagunitas and 2 deschutes) and my total was SIX DOLLARS.
The Lagunitas you had was most likely brewed in Chicago.
Post by: Asteriskhead on December 20, 2016, 09:01:18 PM
I looked it up, just for ksuw, last year was not (!) below 10%
:cheers: Now add in your state income tax, social security, medicare, property tax, and sales tax. We'll make a conservative out of you yet.
I pay that stuff too and it doesn't bother me one bit. I enjoy living in a civilized society
Sigh... I guess we're gonna have to dig a little deeper into the personal stuff. I'm guessing no wife and no kids?
I'm not sure why this matters
Having a wife and kids is expensive. Worth it, but expensive. If you have fewer expenses and more disposable income, I am not surprised that you are not offended by the amount of taxes you pay. After all, as a liberal you are more wired to the "eh you can afford it so stop complaining" mindset.
As a conservative, it's irrelevant whether I can afford it, the government is taking MY rough ridin' MONEY and they damned well better take as little as possible. But liberal and conservative brains are just wired differently in that regard.
That money belongs to the government, not you. You're in temporary possession of it.
Post by: Asteriskhead on December 20, 2016, 09:02:08 PM
Young wage earners with no kids send welfare benefits to breeders like KSUW and I, no clue why he is casting aspersions on them.
My kids are going to pay for your welfare once you can no longer support yourself. You'll be a sponge most of your life. And I can pretty much guarantee I'm going to end up paying a significantly higher effective rate, and way way way more in total tax dollars than you, even after those dependent deductions.
You're adorable.
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on December 20, 2016, 09:13:09 PM
I looked it up, just for ksuw, last year was not (!) below 10%
:cheers: Now add in your state income tax, social security, medicare, property tax, and sales tax. We'll make a conservative out of you yet.
I pay that stuff too and it doesn't bother me one bit. I enjoy living in a civilized society
Sigh... I guess we're gonna have to dig a little deeper into the personal stuff. I'm guessing no wife and no kids?
I'm not sure why this matters
Having a wife and kids is expensive. Worth it, but expensive. If you have fewer expenses and more disposable income, I am not surprised that you are not offended by the amount of taxes you pay. After all, as a liberal you are more wired to the "eh you can afford it so stop complaining" mindset.
As a conservative, it's irrelevant whether I can afford it, the government is taking MY rough ridin' MONEY and they damned well better take as little as possible. But liberal and conservative brains are just wired differently in that regard.
That money belongs to the government, not you. You're in temporary possession of it.
This is an amazing response even by liberal standards. I don't want to think your a blighering idiot, so I'm going to fall back on the "his brain is just wired differently" excuse. It's the only way I can fathom such a bizarre mindset. Socialism is an abject failure, but a lot of people still want it.
Post by: star seed 7 on December 20, 2016, 09:33:01 PM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 20, 2016, 09:37:30 PM
Some people think trump is a great person and Tom is a chode. This is an actual opinion expressed on this blog.Link?
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on December 20, 2016, 09:41:22 PM
Having a wife and kids is expensive.
Not true. I do it with one hand tied behind my back and have never thought about what I'm being taxed.
My advice (and you type of people never seem to take it) would be to take a weekend and figure out how much money you need to earn to be able to live comfortably. then write it down on a piece of paper and formulate a plan for how to go about making that. Also consider contacting a family friend or former classmate that you would like to emulate and ask them if they would be willing to mentor you.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 20, 2016, 09:44:20 PM
Post by: Asteriskhead on December 20, 2016, 09:47:49 PM
I looked it up, just for ksuw, last year was not (!) below 10%
:cheers: Now add in your state income tax, social security, medicare, property tax, and sales tax. We'll make a conservative out of you yet.
I pay that stuff too and it doesn't bother me one bit. I enjoy living in a civilized society
Sigh... I guess we're gonna have to dig a little deeper into the personal stuff. I'm guessing no wife and no kids?
I'm not sure why this matters
Having a wife and kids is expensive. Worth it, but expensive. If you have fewer expenses and more disposable income, I am not surprised that you are not offended by the amount of taxes you pay. After all, as a liberal you are more wired to the "eh you can afford it so stop complaining" mindset.
As a conservative, it's irrelevant whether I can afford it, the government is taking MY rough ridin' MONEY and they damned well better take as little as possible. But liberal and conservative brains are just wired differently in that regard.
That money belongs to the government, not you. You're in temporary possession of it.
This is an amazing response even by liberal standards. I don't want to think your a blighering idiot, so I'm going to fall back on the "his brain is just wired differently" excuse. It's the only way I can fathom such a bizarre mindset. Socialism is an abject failure, but a lot of people still want it.
I'm not making that statement as a socialist or from a socialist perspective.
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on December 20, 2016, 09:57:03 PM
To be fair Rick, gE is filled with way over successful self proclaimed ppl. We know 50% of them are somewhat accurate. Your blog created this fake elitist environment tho.
No clue what you are talking about. Life is about choices and ksu is making choices that are causing him to worry about things like his effective tax rate. I am trying to get him to funnel that energy in more productive ways. it's called trying to help.
Post by: Asteriskhead on December 20, 2016, 10:00:04 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on December 20, 2016, 10:00:54 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on December 20, 2016, 10:01:46 PM
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on December 20, 2016, 10:11:13 PM
Post by: Asteriskhead on December 20, 2016, 10:18:25 PM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 20, 2016, 10:23:33 PM
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on December 20, 2016, 10:27:34 PM
:zzz: Troll better. This is weak sauce.
I knew you would respond this way, but seriously consider taking a weekend and thinking over what I said. I think you would be better off in the long run and I bet a friend or family member would even be willing to watch your children free of charge. It's not like anyone here will ever have to know and you have nothing to lose.
My advice (and you type of people never seem to take it)
Post by: Asteriskhead on December 20, 2016, 10:28:08 PM
Pmshead loves taxes! :surprised:There are many things in life that this society deems necessary. I don't enjoy or agree with all of them.
In general: I'm not religious, nor am I a recovering addict, but I find the Serenity Prayer to be a good frame to view many of life's unavoidables through. This life is too short and too special to spend it upset over anything you don't really have control over.
Post by: The Big Train on December 20, 2016, 10:34:39 PM
Everyone seems to think they are right no matter what. It makes having a dialogue about anything harder. Especially older people thinking everything was way better in the world when they were younger.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 20, 2016, 10:38:20 PM
There are many things in life that this society deems necessary. I don't enjoy or agree with all of them. I'm not religious, nor am I a recovering addict, but I find the Serenity Prayer to be a good frame to view many of life's unavoidables through. This life is too short and too special to spend it upset over anything you don't really have control over.To be fair, you love roids and your product (beer) is a huge necessary in your life. 100% of your profit is off of beer, so rough ridin' meh.
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on December 20, 2016, 10:40:42 PM
Everyone seems to think they are right no matter what. It makes having a dialogue about anything harder. Especially older people thinking everything was way better in the world when they were younger.
Pretty much any old person that tells you things were better when they were younger is either racist, homophobic, scared of technology or uneducated and angry that they are no longer automatically entitled to a good job.
I'm semi old and this is the best it has ever been.
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on December 20, 2016, 10:45:35 PM
Post by: The Big Train on December 20, 2016, 10:46:44 PM
Post by: Asteriskhead on December 20, 2016, 10:49:51 PM
mattresses. Twenty years ago? Go to sears or like one other place. Now? Cheaper and better mattresses available on pretty much every street corner. Chalk another one up for 2016.
I just bought a great memory foam mattress of off amazon for 50% off store value. It was delivered to my door for free. My back problems are gone! None of this was possible when I was born. Wow!
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on December 20, 2016, 10:53:03 PM
Post by: Asteriskhead on December 20, 2016, 10:58:17 PM
Post by: Phil Titola on December 20, 2016, 10:58:35 PM
Post by: bubbles4ksu on December 20, 2016, 11:01:22 PM
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on December 20, 2016, 11:01:49 PM
To suggest that my angst over my level of taxation is premised on the state of my finances is dumb. Again tho, I sympathize with liberals believing this - it's how their brains work. I could be a multi-millionaire and I'd still be pissed about forking over 40% of my income to the government. To which liberals would respond "stop complaining, you can afford it, and just adjust your lifestyle if you can't." To which I would respond "eff off, and get your grubby fingers out of my wallet." That's just liberal vs conservative. But by all means continue on with your sanctimonious drivel.
Wanting contentment for other humans isn't sanctimonious. That said, I'll table my thoughts for now so we can move on. How is your mattress situation Ksu? Better or worse than eight years ago?
Post by: star seed 7 on December 20, 2016, 11:03:30 PM
Post by: bubbles4ksu on December 20, 2016, 11:04:02 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on December 20, 2016, 11:09:35 PM
Post by: Asteriskhead on December 20, 2016, 11:13:14 PM
This thread could be a really really long list if we didn't have taxes. Think of the bbs'n people
taxes taxed the thread.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 20, 2016, 11:16:17 PM
Post by: puniraptor on December 20, 2016, 11:25:04 PM
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on December 20, 2016, 11:39:42 PM
There are families with 4 kids that live on less than I make just fine and don't go around getting ulcers about paying taxes
That family probably pays a negative tax rate.
Post by: 8manpick on December 20, 2016, 11:50:09 PM
greed is an awful sin and our country has a lot of it right now :frown:Sin
Heh
Post by: star seed 7 on December 20, 2016, 11:51:58 PM
There are families with 4 kids that live on less than I make just fine and don't go around getting ulcers about paying taxes
That family probably pays a negative tax rate.
That would be unlikely
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on December 21, 2016, 12:13:36 AM
but those small town conservatives sure like their 10 lane highways, high speed internet, police, fire, military, farm subsidies, etc. etc. etc.
So you've never actually been to a small town, right?
Post by: star seed 7 on December 21, 2016, 12:17:38 AM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on December 21, 2016, 12:18:56 AM
Post by: mocat on December 21, 2016, 07:00:52 AM
what amount of taxes would you pay in exchange for a total ban on abortion? would you pay 99%?
No chance
Post by: Phil Titola on December 21, 2016, 07:01:14 AM
Post by: CNS on December 21, 2016, 07:57:08 AM
Post by: Institutional Control on December 21, 2016, 07:57:17 AM
I have an aging king size mattress that I'm going to replace next time I move
Until about 4 years ago, I never owned a nice mattress. I can say that the only drawback to having a nice mattress is it makes sleeping in hotels harder to do.
Post by: CNS on December 21, 2016, 08:00:25 AM
Post by: star seed 7 on December 21, 2016, 08:04:54 AM
Post by: Institutional Control on December 21, 2016, 08:12:29 AM
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Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 21, 2016, 08:28:24 AM
Post by: Kat Kid on December 21, 2016, 08:38:19 AM
Young wage earners with no kids send welfare benefits to breeders like KSUW and I, no clue why he is casting aspersions on them.
My kids are going to pay for your welfare once you can no longer support yourself. You'll be a sponge most of your life. And I can pretty much guarantee I'm going to end up paying a significantly higher effective rate, and way way way more in total tax dollars than you, even after those dependent deductions.
holy crap. lol
Post by: Kat Kid on December 21, 2016, 08:39:35 AM
Just looked at what stamps cost v. street value of drugs and you are a respect KK
if they don't pay, it is a crime. just like selling drugs. who knows what your point was, but collecting taxes from criminals sometimes proves difficult.
Post by: 8manpick on December 21, 2016, 08:40:27 AM
Man CNS, the libtards love the eff out of you when you're talking crap on conservatives, but right when you brought up tax smack, they turned on you quick. You gotta be careful catering to their side, they'll turn on you quick if they can sniff out any conservatism in you.CNS, sys and I have always been 3 peas in a libertarian pod. Why would anyone be surprised that CNS doesn't like paying taxes?
Post by: CNS on December 21, 2016, 08:43:51 AM
Ppl see what they want to see.
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on December 21, 2016, 08:50:31 AM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on December 21, 2016, 08:54:04 AM
Young wage earners with no kids send welfare benefits to breeders like KSUW and I, no clue why he is casting aspersions on them.
My kids are going to pay for your welfare once you can no longer support yourself. You'll be a sponge most of your life. And I can pretty much guarantee I'm going to end up paying a significantly higher effective rate, and way way way more in total tax dollars than you, even after those dependent deductions.
holy crap. lol
He doesn't even realize that his kids belong to a generation even more worthless than the millennials.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 21, 2016, 08:56:48 AM
Who turned on CNS?Rage, have you not seen all the passive aggressive posts about how dumb the ppl are who bring up taxes? OMG, do you guys not even know when you're being condescending ass hats? Sad!
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on December 21, 2016, 08:58:01 AM
Who turned on CNS?Rage, have you not seem all the passive aggressive posts about how dumb the ppl are who bring up taxes? OMG, do you guys not even know when you're being condescending ass hats? Sad!
When you talk politics, people are going to disagree with you, wacky.
Post by: Tobias on December 21, 2016, 08:58:09 AM
Post by: CNS on December 21, 2016, 08:58:38 AM
Post by: CHONGS on December 21, 2016, 08:59:45 AM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 21, 2016, 09:01:53 AM
Wacky is too busy looking for a cross to hang himself from.Chings, you've been a crap head to me from day 1, any reasoning for that?
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 21, 2016, 09:02:36 AM
Relax wacks, it's the Wednesday before Christmas:cheers:
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on December 21, 2016, 09:11:46 AM
I guess that gets kind of messy when you need to use police services though. I read a book where you had to pay any time you used police services and it was a crap show (another Octavia Butler book, "Parable of the Sower", very good).
Post by: CNS on December 21, 2016, 09:16:40 AM
Post by: star seed 7 on December 21, 2016, 09:22:32 AM
Post by: star seed 7 on December 21, 2016, 09:23:04 AM
Wacky is too busy looking for a cross to hang himself from.Chings, you've been a crap head to me from day 1, any reasoning for that?
He found it!
Post by: Panjandrum on December 21, 2016, 09:26:09 AM
Some people can't handle people having different opinions
I generally don't care. But, God, I love trolling my Southern relatives. I live for it. It's so much fun.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 21, 2016, 09:27:25 AM
:rolleyes:Wacky is too busy looking for a cross to hang himself from.Chings, you've been a crap head to me from day 1, any reasoning for that?
He found it!
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on December 21, 2016, 09:27:59 AM
Continue to be pissed off over crap that you can't control then. I don't care. Just stop rough ridin' whining like a child. This place is for entertainment and fun. Take your posting completely over the top to provide some value, or shut the eff up.
Things I can't control? Really? I can vote, for starters.
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Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 21, 2016, 09:28:47 AM
Some people can't handle people having different opinionsExactly. I'd say you're our number 1 example of this. :D
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 21, 2016, 09:30:49 AM
Post by: Phil Titola on December 21, 2016, 09:33:12 AM
Maybe there should just be a usage fee for ever-y-thing. Send your kids to school? Pay the fee. Drive across town on public roads? Pay the fee. Build your house in a new neighborhood that needs water/sewer? That's already called a special assessment tax.
I guess that gets kind of messy when you need to use police services though. I read a book where you had to pay any time you used police services and it was a crap show (another Octavia Butler book, "Parable of the Sower", very good).
Doesn't really work for the less fortunate. To me the role of government is the good of all people, not just those who can afford it
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on December 21, 2016, 09:34:59 AM
Young wage earners with no kids send welfare benefits to breeders like KSUW and I, no clue why he is casting aspersions on them.
My kids are going to pay for your welfare once you can no longer support yourself. You'll be a sponge most of your life. And I can pretty much guarantee I'm going to end up paying a significantly higher effective rate, and way way way more in total tax dollars than you, even after those dependent deductions.
holy crap. lol
He doesn't even realize that his kids belong to a generation even more worthless than the millennials.
No doubt, but that doesn't mean my kids are. You liberal sponges should be sending me a Christmas card (now there's a thread idea...)
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on December 21, 2016, 09:48:37 AM
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on December 21, 2016, 09:52:41 AM
Post by: Dugout DickStone on December 21, 2016, 09:56:20 AM
one thing that I think is not great right now is how helicoptery a lot of parents are. my generation (x) grew up pretty ignored and left alone by their parents and now there is an overcorrection happening. kids are being overscheduled and smothered. kids should be left alone more to be on their own and free play with other kids/siblings.
I also see kids where the mom has to work and they are off to daycare and sitters etc. they are kind of messed up too so its a weird balance
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 21, 2016, 09:58:35 AM
also kid sports. 3rd grade travelling baseball teams with parents upset over positions, playing time and coaching moves. actual adults ending friendships over it. I mean yeah it's hilarious, but it's also kind of sad. definitely something that is a wrong and not a right.It's always been this way FWIW
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on December 21, 2016, 10:02:41 AM
also kid sports. 3rd grade travelling baseball teams with parents upset over positions, playing time and coaching moves. actual adults ending friendships over it. I mean yeah it's hilarious, but it's also kind of sad. definitely something that is a wrong and not a right.It's always been this way FWIW
it hasn't, but I have no desire to discuss it further.
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on December 21, 2016, 10:04:11 AM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 21, 2016, 10:05:19 AM
OK, but I remember being that age and Johnny's parents being pretty pissed off that I pistol whipped their son out of a position.also kid sports. 3rd grade travelling baseball teams with parents upset over positions, playing time and coaching moves. actual adults ending friendships over it. I mean yeah it's hilarious, but it's also kind of sad. definitely something that is a wrong and not a right.It's always been this way FWIW
it hasn't, but I have no desire to discuss it further.
Post by: bubbles4ksu on December 21, 2016, 10:07:27 AM
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on December 21, 2016, 10:09:36 AM
Post by: yoga-like_abana on December 21, 2016, 10:10:35 AM
Post by: Asteriskhead on December 21, 2016, 10:10:56 AM
Continue to be pissed off over crap that you can't control then. I don't care. Just stop rough ridin' whining like a child. This place is for entertainment and fun. Take your posting completely over the top to provide some value, or shut the eff up.
Things I can't control? Really? I can vote, for starters.
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i cannot tell if you're doubling-down, or taking my advice. either way, this post is better bbs'n than what you normally produce.
Post by: The Big Train on December 21, 2016, 10:11:31 AM
Post by: Asteriskhead on December 21, 2016, 10:12:28 AM
and now we see why I didn't want to discuss it further. also, I'm putting socks down as something that's wrong w/ the country. every 9 yr old wants twenty dollar LeBron socks. get out of my face w/ that nonsense.
i love getting wool socks for giftmas. i don't like when my feet are cold.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 21, 2016, 10:16:04 AM
fanningbrags are whats wrong w/ this country.. everyone thinks they are something specialLighten up, francis
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Post by: yoga-like_abana on December 21, 2016, 10:29:46 AM
Post by: Panjandrum on December 21, 2016, 10:31:00 AM
also kid sports. 3rd grade travelling baseball teams with parents upset over positions, playing time and coaching moves. actual adults ending friendships over it. I mean yeah it's hilarious, but it's also kind of sad. definitely something that is a wrong and not a right.
My son is in first grade, and we want him to try stuff. He did soccer for a year, didn't like it, so we didn't sign him back up. He hasn't shown any interest in baseball, so we didn't force it. He seems to like tennis and karate, so that's what we're setting into.
My four year old likes gymnastics and karate. So, we'll probably keep signing him up for that stuff.
I'm just not into forcing kids into stuff they don't want to do. My oldest son loves art, so he spends a ton of time on that. My younger son really loves to build things with legos, duplos, Lincoln Logs, etc. I'd rather they do that stuff that they enjoy than force them to do something they don't have any interest in. We did tell them that they need to try and do one physical activity that they like because they need to make exercise a part of their life. But what they do is up to them, and I certainly don't give a crap if they play for some traveling baseball team. I did that and it sucked my parents' life away. We only did two vacations when I was a kid because we spent all of our weekends traveling for baseball. I totally regret that for myself and them.
Post by: Asteriskhead on December 21, 2016, 10:34:33 AM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 21, 2016, 10:35:46 AM
special post bud +1 :thumbs::cheers:
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on December 21, 2016, 10:53:14 AM
also kid sports. 3rd grade travelling baseball teams with parents upset over positions, playing time and coaching moves. actual adults ending friendships over it. I mean yeah it's hilarious, but it's also kind of sad. definitely something that is a wrong and not a right.
My son is in first grade, and we want him to try stuff. He did soccer for a year, didn't like it, so we didn't sign him back up. He hasn't shown any interest in baseball, so we didn't force it. He seems to like tennis and karate, so that's what we're setting into.
My four year old likes gymnastics and karate. So, we'll probably keep signing him up for that stuff.
I'm just not into forcing kids into stuff they don't want to do. My oldest son loves art, so he spends a ton of time on that. My younger son really loves to build things with legos, duplos, Lincoln Logs, etc. I'd rather they do that stuff that they enjoy than force them to do something they don't have any interest in. We did tell them that they need to try and do one physical activity that they like because they need to make exercise a part of their life. But what they do is up to them, and I certainly don't give a crap if they play for some traveling baseball team. I did that and it sucked my parents' life away. We only did two vacations when I was a kid because we spent all of our weekends traveling for baseball. I totally regret that for myself and them.
I have no doubt you're a very good dad. I have two kids. one loves the crap out of sports, is pretty decent at them and plays a bunch of different ones.the other is the worst kid athlete that I've ever seen in my entire life. he was in a play last summer and hasn't played a sport since tball. different strokes.
Post by: Dugout DickStone on December 21, 2016, 11:04:49 AM
Post by: Skipper44 on December 21, 2016, 12:27:22 PM
and now we see why I didn't want to discuss it further. also, I'm putting socks down as something that's wrong w/ the country. every 9 yr old wants twenty dollar LeBron socks. get out of my face w/ that nonsense.while signature edition socks are what is wrong but sweet kicks staying in the $120 range the last 25 years seems pretty good
Post by: Panjandrum on December 21, 2016, 12:32:30 PM
I would drink a beer with Panj and talk Star Wars. That seems like a pretty cool thing that could happen in 2017. It probably won't ever happen because of where we live and our irl social circles, but I probably wouldn't even be aware that particular guy exists out there in this world if this was 20 years ago. I think that's pretty cool.
We need to figure out a way to do this, pmshead. I would enjoy it very much.
Post by: Panjandrum on December 21, 2016, 12:35:22 PM
also kid sports. 3rd grade travelling baseball teams with parents upset over positions, playing time and coaching moves. actual adults ending friendships over it. I mean yeah it's hilarious, but it's also kind of sad. definitely something that is a wrong and not a right.
My son is in first grade, and we want him to try stuff. He did soccer for a year, didn't like it, so we didn't sign him back up. He hasn't shown any interest in baseball, so we didn't force it. He seems to like tennis and karate, so that's what we're setting into.
My four year old likes gymnastics and karate. So, we'll probably keep signing him up for that stuff.
I'm just not into forcing kids into stuff they don't want to do. My oldest son loves art, so he spends a ton of time on that. My younger son really loves to build things with legos, duplos, Lincoln Logs, etc. I'd rather they do that stuff that they enjoy than force them to do something they don't have any interest in. We did tell them that they need to try and do one physical activity that they like because they need to make exercise a part of their life. But what they do is up to them, and I certainly don't give a crap if they play for some traveling baseball team. I did that and it sucked my parents' life away. We only did two vacations when I was a kid because we spent all of our weekends traveling for baseball. I totally regret that for myself and them.
I have no doubt you're a very good dad. I have two kids. one loves the crap out of sports, is pretty decent at them and plays a bunch of different ones.the other is the worst kid athlete that I've ever seen in my entire life. he was in a play last summer and hasn't played a sport since tball. different strokes.
My oldest actually likes sports when he plays, but it's pulling teeth to get him out there. I think once his friends get really vocal about playing, he may want to join, but I've been informed that seven years old is too old to start playing organized sports.
To which my reply was, "**** you, go **** yourself. Jerk."
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on December 21, 2016, 01:10:09 PM
Post by: Skipper44 on December 21, 2016, 01:30:19 PM
one thing that I think is not great right now is how helicoptery a lot of parents are. my generation (x) grew up pretty ignored and left alone by their parents and now there is an overcorrection happening. kids are being overscheduled and smothered. kids should be left alone more to be on their own and free play with other kids/siblings.
also kid sports. 3rd grade travelling baseball teams with parents upset over positions, playing time and coaching moves. actual adults ending friendships over it. I mean yeah it's hilarious, but it's also kind of sad. definitely something that is a wrong and not a right.The sad thing is these two things are completely related - the cul-de-sac goes from being filled with kids most days when they are all under 8 or 9 and then the club soccer, tournament baseball, etc starts and becomes a ghost town so you start finding organized activities for your kids and the cycle continues
Post by: Asteriskhead on December 21, 2016, 01:32:30 PM
also kid sports. 3rd grade travelling baseball teams with parents upset over positions, playing time and coaching moves. actual adults ending friendships over it. I mean yeah it's hilarious, but it's also kind of sad. definitely something that is a wrong and not a right.
My son is in first grade, and we want him to try stuff. He did soccer for a year, didn't like it, so we didn't sign him back up. He hasn't shown any interest in baseball, so we didn't force it. He seems to like tennis and karate, so that's what we're setting into.
My four year old likes gymnastics and karate. So, we'll probably keep signing him up for that stuff.
I'm just not into forcing kids into stuff they don't want to do. My oldest son loves art, so he spends a ton of time on that. My younger son really loves to build things with legos, duplos, Lincoln Logs, etc. I'd rather they do that stuff that they enjoy than force them to do something they don't have any interest in. We did tell them that they need to try and do one physical activity that they like because they need to make exercise a part of their life. But what they do is up to them, and I certainly don't give a crap if they play for some traveling baseball team. I did that and it sucked my parents' life away. We only did two vacations when I was a kid because we spent all of our weekends traveling for baseball. I totally regret that for myself and them.
I have no doubt you're a very good dad. I have two kids. one loves the crap out of sports, is pretty decent at them and plays a bunch of different ones.the other is the worst kid athlete that I've ever seen in my entire life. he was in a play last summer and hasn't played a sport since tball. different strokes.
My oldest actually likes sports when he plays, but it's pulling teeth to get him out there. I think once his friends get really vocal about playing, he may want to join, but I've been informed that seven years old is too old to start playing organized sports.
To which my reply was, "**** you, go **** yourself. Jerk."
a family member is going through a similar situation right now with his oldest. he expresses interest in the sport, but every time they ask him if he would like to join a team/ practice/ play etc. he says, "i'm too small right now."
Post by: Skipper44 on December 21, 2016, 01:40:21 PM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on December 21, 2016, 01:53:15 PM
Post by: CNS on December 21, 2016, 02:04:05 PM
one good result of the rush to get kids that can barely tie their shoes on to teams that practice 2 or 3 nights a week is the regular old rec teams are usually missing the hyper competitive dads that will be playing to win and/or their kid to be the star by 3rd or 4th grade. So it kind of goes in reverse
Well, when you can't even form a rec league in your medium to small town because a decent number of kids are on competitive leagues, it can kill it all for everyone. Parents think that because their kid is top 50% of their current 2nd grade team that they should be groomed by a coach that gets paid even though that kid is still playing at a 2nd grade level. It's ridic. It eliminates enough of the player pool in my town that we have to travel to two other small towns. Rewind to when I was a kid and not only did we have enough to fill a league, but we had a smaller pop.
Post by: Panjandrum on December 21, 2016, 02:11:57 PM
one good result of the rush to get kids that can barely tie their shoes on to teams that practice 2 or 3 nights a week is the regular old rec teams are usually missing the hyper competitive dads that will be playing to win and/or their kid to be the star by 3rd or 4th grade. So it kind of goes in reverse
Well, when you can't even form a rec league in your medium to small town because a decent number of kids are on competitive leagues, it can kill it all for everyone. Parents think that because their kid is top 50% of their current 2nd grade team that they should be groomed by a coach that gets paid even though that kid is still playing at a 2nd grade level. It's ridic. It eliminates enough of the player pool in my town that we have to travel to two other small towns. Rewind to when I was a kid and not only did we have enough to fill a league, but we had a smaller pop.
I was driving to a client site with a co-worker a while back, and we needed to prep for the presentation before we got there. Our plan was to discuss it all in the car on the way there since it was about a three hour ride.
Well, we didn't get to do any of that because her 15 y/o step-daughter's soccer team had some dramatic blow up, and half of the girls got kicked off the team when the better ones decided to merge with some other club. So, she spent the entire 3 hours making phone calls trying to get her on a team since there was now a 'market flood', and she needed to line up a try out before all of the spots were taken.
It was legitimately the most Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) thing I've probably seen in the last two years. Three hours of begging, non-stop, to anyone that would give her a phone number and then whatever coach would answer the phone. And then the coaches were being picky because they had so many girls to choose from, so they were being assholes.
I mean, when I was a kid, the most dramatic thing that happened was our goalie's dad got kicked out of Sunflower soccer because he went after a ref with a chair. But if you wanted to be on a team, you were on a team. Hell, we were just a bunch of randos put together that wanted to play soccer, and we ended up winning the Governor's Cup against teams from all over the midwest.
I'm done ranting, but this whole thing pisses me off. Just because my six year old doesn't want to spend 3 nights a week playing soccer doesn't mean he shouldn't be able to play ****ing soccer.
Post by: 8manpick on December 21, 2016, 02:12:09 PM
Post by: CNS on December 21, 2016, 02:14:51 PM
To get back to an earlier topic, skiing should be more expensive. Thin out the crowds a bit for the rest of us.
In the "Thin out crowds" thought process, perhaps mountains should be steeper, have more trees, and the skiing should be free.
Post by: 8manpick on December 21, 2016, 02:16:53 PM
I don't like that idea one bit. I don't want to thin out skiing as with the Kennedys, I want to thin it out for the KennedysTo get back to an earlier topic, skiing should be more expensive. Thin out the crowds a bit for the rest of us.
In the "Thin out crowds" thought process, perhaps mountains should be steeper, have more trees, and the skiing should be free.
Post by: cfbandyman on December 21, 2016, 02:19:07 PM
I'm old and I can say that it was my friends who prodded me to start playing organized sports. Nothing my parents did, but I was fortunate to grow up in a time where we spent nearly every moment we could outside playing, mostly sports.
I'm fairly young, not far off 30, and this was actually true for me too. Not that all young people experienced what I did but we had a rather decent stock of kids around to play sports. Organized sports was done through more my parents if I wanted to play them (which I only did soccer one year and baseball through HS), but I remember playing tons of pick up basketball, street hockey, backyard football, HR derby using a tennis ball in a back yard, etc. with other kids in the neighborhood.
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on December 21, 2016, 02:25:38 PM
one good result of the rush to get kids that can barely tie their shoes on to teams that practice 2 or 3 nights a week is the regular old rec teams are usually missing the hyper competitive dads that will be playing to win and/or their kid to be the star by 3rd or 4th grade. So it kind of goes in reverse
Well, when you can't even form a rec league in your medium to small town because a decent number of kids are on competitive leagues, it can kill it all for everyone. Parents think that because their kid is top 50% of their current 2nd grade team that they should be groomed by a coach that gets paid even though that kid is still playing at a 2nd grade level. It's ridic. It eliminates enough of the player pool in my town that we have to travel to two other small towns. Rewind to when I was a kid and not only did we have enough to fill a league, but we had a smaller pop.
I was driving to a client site with a co-worker a while back, and we needed to prep for the presentation before we got there. Our plan was to discuss it all in the car on the way there since it was about a three hour ride.
Well, we didn't get to do any of that because her 15 y/o step-daughter's soccer team had some dramatic blow up, and half of the girls got kicked off the team when the better ones decided to merge with some other club. So, she spent the entire 3 hours making phone calls trying to get her on a team since there was now a 'market flood', and she needed to line up a try out before all of the spots were taken.
It was legitimately the most Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) thing I've probably seen in the last two years. Three hours of begging, non-stop, to anyone that would give her a phone number and then whatever coach would answer the phone. And then the coaches were being picky because they had so many girls to choose from, so they were being assholes.
I mean, when I was a kid, the most dramatic thing that happened was our goalie's dad got kicked out of Sunflower soccer because he went after a ref with a chair. But if you wanted to be on a team, you were on a team. Hell, we were just a bunch of randos put together that wanted to play soccer, and we ended up winning the Governor's Cup against teams from all over the midwest.
I'm done ranting, but this whole thing pisses me off. Just because my six year old doesn't want to spend 3 nights a week playing soccer doesn't mean he shouldn't be able to play ****ing soccer.
Don't 15 year olds just play on their high school team?
Post by: CNS on December 21, 2016, 02:27:50 PM
I'm old and I can say that it was my friends who prodded me to start playing organized sports. Nothing my parents did, but I was fortunate to grow up in a time where we spent nearly every moment we could outside playing, mostly sports.
I'm fairly young, not far off 30, and this was actually true for me too. Not that all young people experienced what I did but we had a rather decent stock of kids around to play sports. Organized sports was done through more my parents if I wanted to play them (which I only did soccer one year and baseball through HS), but I remember playing tons of pick up basketball, street hockey, backyard football, HR derby using a tennis ball in a back yard, etc. with other kids in the neighborhood.
Same, but I am almost 38. When I was a kid there were rules not allowing your school coach to be your AAU coach and you also couldn't have more than like 3 kids from a school team on the same AAU team. Those rules were removed about 3-4 yrs after I grad'ed HS. The rules kept the crazies from creating the year round bullshit and kept other sports healthy, imo. Also, made it so that kids had to play pick up sports part of the time, if you really liked playing the sport.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on December 21, 2016, 02:33:18 PM
Post by: The Big Train on December 21, 2016, 02:38:27 PM
Post by: The Big Train on December 21, 2016, 02:39:08 PM
Post by: Panjandrum on December 21, 2016, 02:39:15 PM
Don't 15 year olds just play on their high school team?
Well, where do they play the other 9 months of the year?
Post by: star seed 7 on December 21, 2016, 02:41:30 PM
Post by: cfbandyman on December 21, 2016, 02:41:39 PM
I'm old and I can say that it was my friends who prodded me to start playing organized sports. Nothing my parents did, but I was fortunate to grow up in a time where we spent nearly every moment we could outside playing, mostly sports.
I'm fairly young, not far off 30, and this was actually true for me too. Not that all young people experienced what I did but we had a rather decent stock of kids around to play sports. Organized sports was done through more my parents if I wanted to play them (which I only did soccer one year and baseball through HS), but I remember playing tons of pick up basketball, street hockey, backyard football, HR derby using a tennis ball in a back yard, etc. with other kids in the neighborhood.
Same, but I am almost 38. When I was a kid there were rules not allowing your school coach to be your AAU coach and you also couldn't have more than like 3 kids from a school team on the same AAU team. Those rules were removed about 3-4 yrs after I grad'ed HS. The rules kept the crazies from creating the year round bullshit and kept other sports healthy, imo. Also, made it so that kids had to play pick up sports part of the time, if you really liked playing the sport.
Yeah, I played for my HS coach on a summer league team. That was about it for non-HS associated teams. I knew I wasn't going to make it into the college level for me when it came to baseball, I just liked to play, and was decent but knew my money would come from other spots.
I think trying to be competitive or getting fits over anything, participation trophy rant or not in elementary school level athletics is stupid. The kids are young, rather uncoordinated, and learning. By the time middle school comes around that's when there should be more actual levels of competition, and if there are kids that like to play but don't really care to win, then a rec league level stuff. But usually kids by the time they hit middle school going into HS realize if they are good at a sport or not, and stay with it, or as you said, if they cant get on a league, play in a pick up. It's ok.
Post by: star seed 7 on December 21, 2016, 02:42:37 PM
Post by: Asteriskhead on December 21, 2016, 02:43:24 PM
They can share the experience of how far we have come from things like the telegraph to the Internet and texting. Glad you're here dax
Why are you popping off at my guy, dax?
Post by: The Big Train on December 21, 2016, 02:44:51 PM
They can share the experience of how far we have come from things like the telegraph to the Internet and texting. Glad you're here dax
Why are you popping off at my guy, dax?
Not popping off, just bringing some good news into this Debbie downer thread
Post by: sonofdaxjones on December 21, 2016, 02:47:22 PM
They can share the experience of how far we have come from things like the telegraph to the Internet and texting. Glad you're here dax
Telegraph? #tears
Post by: Institutional Control on December 21, 2016, 02:57:48 PM
Yeah, no one has gotten weird.
I totally got weird and don't try to deny it. Once I posted a map, you knew I had just put you in your place.
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on December 21, 2016, 03:07:01 PM
Ricky d, does your kid like video games?
Not as much as I thought they would. In order of what they like...
1)YouTube videos
2)Netflix
3)tv
4)video games
Post by: Institutional Control on December 21, 2016, 03:15:51 PM
Post by: michigancat on December 21, 2016, 03:17:13 PM
Ricky d, does your kid like video games?
Not as much as I thought they would. In order of what they like...
1)YouTube videos
2)Netflix
3)tv
4)video games
much like cartoons, the quality of programing for kids (particularly on Amazon Prime) is outstanding. Gortimer Gibbons, Kicks, Annedroids, are you kidding me? Wow.
Post by: chum1 on December 21, 2016, 03:29:49 PM
Post by: mocat on December 21, 2016, 04:03:43 PM
If you guys only knew how much I spend on my daughter's competitive cheerleading. It's embarrassing. However, we've never forced her to do any extracurricular things. She tried soccer, softball and volleyball before cheer. She wasn't into it. Especially practices. Now, she voluntarily goes to the gym 6 days a week to practice her tumbling. When she's not at the gym she's either watching videos on cheering/tumbling or playing minecraft.
m night level twist at the very end :lol:
Post by: wetwillie on December 21, 2016, 04:34:02 PM
Ricky d, does your kid like video games?
Not as much as I thought they would. In order of what they like...
1)YouTube videos
2)Netflix
3)tv
4)video games
Yea YouTube videos are like crack for kids. It's amazing.
Post by: Panjandrum on December 21, 2016, 04:40:20 PM
Ricky d, does your kid like video games?
Not as much as I thought they would. In order of what they like...
1)YouTube videos
2)Netflix
3)tv
4)video games
Yea YouTube videos are like crack for kids. It's amazing.
My kids will sit there and watch other kids put legos together for a good hour.
Then they'll go do the same thing with their legos.
I guess I do the same thing with fixing a toilet or patching drywall...
Post by: The Big Train on December 21, 2016, 04:45:19 PM
If you guys only knew how much I spend on my daughter's competitive cheerleading. It's embarrassing. However, we've never forced her to do any extracurricular things. She tried soccer, softball and volleyball before cheer. She wasn't into it. Especially practices. Now, she voluntarily goes to the gym 6 days a week to practice her tumbling. When she's not at the gym she's either watching videos on cheering/tumbling or playing minecraft.
m night level twist at the very end :lol:
Yeah that was pretty great. Watching YouTube videos to solving calculus problems :lol:
Post by: star seed 7 on December 21, 2016, 04:46:02 PM
Post by: Asteriskhead on December 21, 2016, 05:03:51 PM
Post by: CNS on December 21, 2016, 05:06:50 PM
Post by: Gooch on December 21, 2016, 05:09:43 PM
late the the thread but if you take out the ! this is a real URL.Where do you get the un-biased stats K-S-U?
AngryPatriotAmerica!BaldEagleJesus.com
Post by: Asteriskhead on December 21, 2016, 05:10:48 PM
My son loves pokemon. There is a channel that is called Opening Pokemon, or something like that. Kids buy cards, open them on cam, and talk about the cards. Not in a collector/stats nerd type way, but just like a normal kid opening pokemon cards way.
your son would get along swimmingly with 9 year old pmshead.
Post by: cfbandyman on December 21, 2016, 05:18:43 PM
late the the thread but if you take out the ! this is a real URL.Where do you get the un-biased stats K-S-U?
AngryPatriotAmerica!BaldEagleJesus.com
:lol:
Just thinking that might be real is too funny
Post by: Institutional Control on December 21, 2016, 05:20:43 PM
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Post by: mocat on December 21, 2016, 05:55:28 PM
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Post by: Asteriskhead on December 21, 2016, 05:57:37 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on December 21, 2016, 06:03:32 PM
ksuw is stuck in "upper middle class" purgatory due to taxes, that's what wrong with this country rick
Nah, more like lower upper class tax purgatory. It's hard to be a HENRY.
You're rich but let taxes stress you out? That's hustlin' backwards.
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on December 21, 2016, 06:06:45 PM
ksuw is stuck in "upper middle class" purgatory due to taxes, that's what wrong with this country rick
Nah, more like lower upper class tax purgatory. It's hard to be a HENRY.
You're rich but let taxes stress you out? That's hustlin' backwards.
Youre a little late to the party. This same libtrash trolling was put to bed a few pages back.
Post by: The Big Train on December 21, 2016, 06:20:25 PM
Post by: Institutional Control on December 21, 2016, 06:29:06 PM
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Post by: cfbandyman on December 21, 2016, 06:42:15 PM
LOL @ lower upper class.
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The horror of how expensive a wife and kids are. :Crybaby: Such a tough life, I can afford crap! But I can't afford enough! I don't really have to worry about money!
Post by: Asteriskhead on December 21, 2016, 06:49:26 PM
Post by: wetwillie on December 21, 2016, 07:11:03 PM
The hilarious thing is that he doesn't realize that all of his stress originates from his own choices. A self-professed fiscal and social conservative with no more control over his own life than a heroin addict. Sad.... really.
Yea it's hard to keep watching. Plenty of people OTB pay boatloads more than he does and are all sleepycat.jpg
Post by: MakeItRain on December 21, 2016, 08:55:36 PM
We have wifi on planes now and we it doesn't work, people freak the eff out. That's how good we have it these days.
I had a business class flight earlier this year when the wifi didn't work, it was a quick flight, Atlanta to Chicago. I wrote an email and United gave me 5000 miles, I was pissed they only gave me 5000.
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on December 21, 2016, 09:12:58 PM
We have wifi on planes now and we it doesn't work, people freak the eff out. That's how good we have it these days.
I had a business class flight earlier this year when the wifi didn't work, it was a quick flight, Atlanta to Chicago. I wrote an email and United gave me 5000 miles, I was pissed they only gave me 5000.
It really is amazing. How cheap it is to fly compared to thirty years ago and you can watch movies, check internet, etc. chalk another one up for 2016 and on the off chance it doesn't work you get compensated. Wow!
Post by: MakeItRain on December 21, 2016, 09:21:40 PM
Maybe there should just be a usage fee for ever-y-thing. Send your kids to school? Pay the fee. Drive across town on public roads? Pay the fee. Build your house in a new neighborhood that needs water/sewer? That's already called a special assessment tax.
I guess that gets kind of messy when you need to use police services though. I read a book where you had to pay any time you used police services and it was a crap show (another Octavia Butler book, "Parable of the Sower", very good).
Why do you hate poor people?
Post by: MakeItRain on December 21, 2016, 09:23:19 PM
Continue to be pissed off over crap that you can't control then. I don't care. Just stop rough ridin' whining like a child. This place is for entertainment and fun. Take your posting completely over the top to provide some value, or shut the eff up.
Things I can't control? Really? I can vote, for starters.
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President Cheeto
Post by: MakeItRain on December 21, 2016, 09:25:34 PM
It's been that way for at least 20 years, anyway.
I'm old :cry:
Post by: MakeItRain on December 21, 2016, 09:31:24 PM
I would drink a beer with Panj and talk Star Wars. That seems like a pretty cool thing that could happen in 2017. It probably won't ever happen because of where we live and our irl social circles, but I probably wouldn't even be aware that particular guy exists out there in this world if this was 20 years ago. I think that's pretty cool.
We need to figure out a way to do this, pmshead. I would enjoy it very much.
(https://media1.giphy.com/media/A9KfKenpqNDfa/200_s.gif)
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on December 21, 2016, 09:33:47 PM
So, it would seem, college is becoming pretty worthless. Not good for the libtards largest industry.
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on December 21, 2016, 09:39:47 PM
I would drink a beer with Panj and talk Star Wars. That seems like a pretty cool thing that could happen in 2017. It probably won't ever happen because of where we live and our irl social circles, but I probably wouldn't even be aware that particular guy exists out there in this world if this was 20 years ago. I think that's pretty cool.
We need to figure out a way to do this, pmshead. I would enjoy it very much.
(https://media1.giphy.com/media/A9KfKenpqNDfa/200_s.gif)
Like, I don't know pmshead or panj from adam irl, but eff if these dweebs aren't poster children for the WSJ series of losery millenials. Socially Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) weirdos pissed off at anyone who isn't a pissed off little weirdo.
Like I always said, if you're ugly and can't play sports just star wars.
Post by: MakeItRain on December 21, 2016, 09:44:49 PM
The WSJ has run a nice series of pieces of how hopelessly losery recent college grads are. Like 40% live with their parents and over half are making less than what their parents made at the same age.
So, it would seem, college is becoming pretty worthless. Not good for the libtards largest industry.
Isn't college for everyone? Jerry Falwell and Ken Starr are gonna be pissed when they find out.
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on December 21, 2016, 09:46:08 PM
The WSJ has run a nice series of pieces of how hopelessly losery recent college grads are. Like 40% live with their parents and over half are making less than what their parents made at the same age.
So, it would seem, college is becoming pretty worthless. Not good for the libtards largest industry.
Those same articles were being published when I went to college, but I agree that it would be great to go back to the day that a college degree meant that you were set for life. If trump can make this happen then he has my vote in 4 years. Given that he has congress etc., I'm guessing he'll make it happen.
Post by: Tobias on December 21, 2016, 09:47:55 PM
Post by: gatoveintisiet on December 21, 2016, 10:07:56 PM
Continue to be pissed off over crap that you can't control then. I don't care. Just stop rough ridin' whining like a child. This place is for entertainment and fun. Take your posting completely over the top to provide some value, or shut the eff up.
Things I can't control? Really? I can vote, for starters.
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President Cheeto
That's hilarious, how would you like to be called Poster Oreo cookie?
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on December 21, 2016, 10:12:18 PM
The WSJ has run a nice series of pieces of how hopelessly losery recent college grads are. Like 40% live with their parents and over half are making less than what their parents made at the same age.
So, it would seem, college is becoming pretty worthless. Not good for the libtards largest industry.
Isn't college for everyone? Jerry Falwell and Ken Starr are gonna be pissed when they find out.
I didn't see a statistic specific to their respective schools, but. . . NICE STRAW MAN
OMG, LOL
Post by: renocat on December 21, 2016, 10:31:57 PM
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on December 21, 2016, 10:40:43 PM
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on December 21, 2016, 10:46:00 PM
Read an article today about how more and more seniors - that's senior citizens - are having their retirements impacted by mounting student loan debt, either their own or that of their worthless kids. Either way, it's crazy. The liberal debt-dealers have done an amazing job shackling people with massive student loans for largely worthless degrees. It should be criminal - instead it is somehow perfectly acceptable. The liberals will fight tooth and nail to prop up their indoctrination centers, even as it ruins lives.
In another time it would be called indentured servitude. In any other industry it would be called predatory lending.
Post by: Asteriskhead on December 21, 2016, 10:49:27 PM
I would drink a beer with Panj and talk Star Wars. That seems like a pretty cool thing that could happen in 2017. It probably won't ever happen because of where we live and our irl social circles, but I probably wouldn't even be aware that particular guy exists out there in this world if this was 20 years ago. I think that's pretty cool.
We need to figure out a way to do this, pmshead. I would enjoy it very much.
(https://media1.giphy.com/media/A9KfKenpqNDfa/200_s.gif)
Like, I don't know pmshead or panj from adam irl, but eff if these dweebs aren't poster children for the WSJ series of losery millenials. Socially Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) weirdos pissed off at anyone who isn't a pissed off little weirdo.
Like I always said, if you're ugly and can't play sports just star wars.
This is very, very funny.
Post by: MakeItRain on December 21, 2016, 11:50:28 PM
Continue to be pissed off over crap that you can't control then. I don't care. Just stop rough ridin' whining like a child. This place is for entertainment and fun. Take your posting completely over the top to provide some value, or shut the eff up.
Things I can't control? Really? I can vote, for starters.
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President Cheeto
That's hilarious, how would you like to be called Poster Oreo cookie?
No one reacts to your posts like this because you're dull.
Post by: gatoveintisiet on December 22, 2016, 12:17:43 AM
Continue to be pissed off over crap that you can't control then. I don't care. Just stop rough ridin' whining like a child. This place is for entertainment and fun. Take your posting completely over the top to provide some value, or shut the eff up.
Things I can't control? Really? I can vote, for starters.
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President Cheeto
That's hilarious, how would you like to be called Poster Oreo cookie?
No one reacts to your posts like this because you're dull.
Was more making a point to you than looking for a reaction or trying to entertain, but it's pretty great that the same guy that comes up with President cheeto calls me dull.
Post by: Phil Titola on December 22, 2016, 07:41:40 AM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 22, 2016, 08:50:36 AM
This is great and this is how you do it folks. I've had like 2 round trips for free, just for complaining over petty stuff.We have wifi on planes now and we it doesn't work, people freak the eff out. That's how good we have it these days.
I had a business class flight earlier this year when the wifi didn't work, it was a quick flight, Atlanta to Chicago. I wrote an email and United gave me 5000 miles, I was pissed they only gave me 5000.
Post by: The Big Train on December 22, 2016, 09:11:50 AM
Mods we need one of those world cloud things for FSD
I think we've all grown in the ~2 years since those things. We should all get an updated one IMO
Post by: Dugout DickStone on December 22, 2016, 09:20:37 AM
This is great and this is how you do it folks. I've had like 2 round trips for free, just for complaining over petty stuff.We have wifi on planes now and we it doesn't work, people freak the eff out. That's how good we have it these days.
I had a business class flight earlier this year when the wifi didn't work, it was a quick flight, Atlanta to Chicago. I wrote an email and United gave me 5000 miles, I was pissed they only gave me 5000.
people whining and demanding free stuff doesn't seem very MAGA
Post by: 8manpick on December 22, 2016, 09:28:41 AM
This is great and this is how you do it folks. I've had like 2 round trips for free, just for complaining over petty stuff.We have wifi on planes now and we it doesn't work, people freak the eff out. That's how good we have it these days.
I had a business class flight earlier this year when the wifi didn't work, it was a quick flight, Atlanta to Chicago. I wrote an email and United gave me 5000 miles, I was pissed they only gave me 5000.
Lock this thread up, this is what is wrong with the country now.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 22, 2016, 09:38:42 AM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 22, 2016, 09:40:59 AM
Post by: Dugout DickStone on December 22, 2016, 09:55:23 AM
Also, these were two very shitty situations I was involved with. The main one, I had already purchased a plane ticket and then they resold it to someone else. You proclaimed alpha's sit on your hands on that one and then get back to me.
I have never had an airline screw me. they know better
Post by: star seed 7 on December 22, 2016, 09:56:53 AM
Post by: cfbandyman on December 22, 2016, 09:58:09 AM
Read an article today about how more and more seniors - that's senior citizens - are having their retirements impacted by mounting student loan debt, either their own or that of their worthless kids. Either way, it's crazy. The liberal debt-dealers have done an amazing job shackling people with massive student loans for largely worthless degrees. It should be criminal - instead it is somehow perfectly acceptable. The liberals will fight tooth and nail to prop up their indoctrination centers, even as it ruins lives.
No, this is what's wrong with this country. Immediately just name calling something with the group you hate to try to prove a point. I really don't think it's some liberal, or right wing conspiracy or anything to why college is so damn expensive and has been ballooning. It's just a bunch of greedy people, left and right and center who are pumping up college costs for their own gain. They don't have to have a political leaning to want to have money.
But do, please learn me good how starving education in the first place has given the pretext to drive these institutions to want to jack up prices, or how the "liberal" workforce has demanded that they only hire college grads, even if it's in these "worthless" degrees. Or how even those who do graduate with not worthless degrees, such an engineering, like my friend, are unable to find jobs in his field, or if he does find a job they are low paying and not worth his degree (we're talking 40k a year). Or how we shouldn't be sending our kids to gasp, get a higher education because it might turn them more cerebral and open minded, and no longer agree with me! The horror. But no, this is the all the libs fault. Nothing else.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 22, 2016, 10:36:03 AM
:lol:Also, these were two very shitty situations I was involved with. The main one, I had already purchased a plane ticket and then they resold it to someone else. You proclaimed alpha's sit on your hands on that one and then get back to me.
I have never had an airline screw me. they know better
Post by: Dugout DickStone on December 22, 2016, 11:39:54 AM
:lol:Also, these were two very shitty situations I was involved with. The main one, I had already purchased a plane ticket and then they resold it to someone else. You proclaimed alpha's sit on your hands on that one and then get back to me.
I have never had an airline screw me. they know better
buy biz class/select.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on December 22, 2016, 11:40:47 AM
Maybe there should just be a usage fee for ever-y-thing. Send your kids to school? Pay the fee. Drive across town on public roads? Pay the fee. Build your house in a new neighborhood that needs water/sewer? That's already called a special assessment tax.
I guess that gets kind of messy when you need to use police services though. I read a book where you had to pay any time you used police services and it was a crap show (another Octavia Butler book, "Parable of the Sower", very good).
Why do you hate poor people?
Maybe the fee could be income-based? Also I said it doesn't really work.
Post by: The Big Train on December 22, 2016, 12:29:56 PM
You gotta know how to work the system folks. Don't be a hater, be a congratulater.
By this logic you should have been congratulating that poor GPC writer last night.
Post by: kso_FAN on December 22, 2016, 12:34:28 PM
You gotta know how to work the system folks. Don't be a hater, be a congratulater.
By this logic you should have been congratulating that poor GPC writer last night.
I like you wacky, but you were unnecessarily an a-hole to a college kid. You don't have to like little Gates or GPC, but he was just reporting Snyder's story there. You didn't have to push that on Twitter.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 22, 2016, 12:41:39 PM
Post by: mocat on December 22, 2016, 12:43:26 PM
Fair. I owned up to it on the Twitter combo board. I wasn't proud of myself this morning if that helps.
it helps if that college kid reads the Twitter combo board
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 22, 2016, 12:46:35 PM
Post by: The Big Train on December 22, 2016, 12:51:25 PM
Post by: 8manpick on December 22, 2016, 12:53:45 PM
Post by: renocat on December 22, 2016, 12:54:22 PM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 22, 2016, 12:58:16 PM
Re: the OP, we should probably stop pretending that college students are "kids" rather than the adults they actually are.That Tim Everson guy, collegian editor involved himself and then blocked me immediately(I never followed him). Millenals are so pillowy soft. Add that to what's wrong with America
Post by: Tobias on December 22, 2016, 01:00:09 PM
Post by: The Big Train on December 22, 2016, 01:00:22 PM
Post by: Asteriskhead on December 22, 2016, 01:14:06 PM
Re: the OP, we should probably stop pretending that college students are "kids" rather than the adults they actually are.
18 year olds are legally adults, sure. The vast majority of 18-26 year olds I've ever met are still children.
Post by: Asteriskhead on December 22, 2016, 01:16:09 PM
People who don't know they are a millennial
my birth date classifies me as a millennial. however, i do not fit the millennial mold.
Post by: mocat on December 22, 2016, 01:16:47 PM
Post by: The Big Train on December 22, 2016, 01:17:57 PM
People who don't know they are a millennial
my birth date classifies me as a millennial. however, i do not fit the millennial mold.
Well legally you are
Post by: Asteriskhead on December 22, 2016, 01:19:04 PM
People who don't know they are a millennial
my birth date classifies me as a millennial. however, i do not fit the millennial mold.
Well legally you are
pretty sure generations aren't defined/ codified anywhere.
Post by: The Big Train on December 22, 2016, 01:19:49 PM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 22, 2016, 01:20:51 PM
Post by: 8manpick on December 22, 2016, 01:38:41 PM
Only because society enables them to be suchRe: the OP, we should probably stop pretending that college students are "kids" rather than the adults they actually are.
18 year olds are legally adults, sure. The vast majority of 18-26 year olds I've ever met are still children.
Post by: Cartierfor3 on December 22, 2016, 01:39:05 PM
Post by: Kat Kid on December 22, 2016, 01:49:36 PM
Not to get all "back in my day" on here, but I've definitely seen a huge difference in college students since the 10 years I've been out. Like, they're way more whiny and soft and self entitled. Kinda scary.
amazing
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 22, 2016, 01:51:33 PM
Post by: michigancat on December 22, 2016, 01:55:43 PM
Only because society enables them to be suchRe: the OP, we should probably stop pretending that college students are "kids" rather than the adults they actually are.
18 year olds are legally adults, sure. The vast majority of 18-26 year olds I've ever met are still children.
I'm pretty sure their brains are still developing quite a bit, too.
Post by: Phil Titola on December 22, 2016, 02:00:29 PM
Post by: Dugout DickStone on December 22, 2016, 02:08:31 PM
Not to get all "back in my day" on here, but I've definitely seen a huge difference in college students since the 10 years I've been out. Like, they're way more whiny and soft and self entitled. Kinda scary.
the kind of kids who would whine to an airline for an entitlement
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 22, 2016, 02:11:33 PM
Post by: bubbles4ksu on December 22, 2016, 02:12:50 PM
NYT had an article about that this week but i got paywalled :millennial:Only because society enables them to be suchRe: the OP, we should probably stop pretending that college students are "kids" rather than the adults they actually are.
18 year olds are legally adults, sure. The vast majority of 18-26 year olds I've ever met are still children.
I'm pretty sure their brains are still developing quite a bit, too.
Post by: yoga-like_abana on December 22, 2016, 02:17:31 PM
Its an awesome cycle isn't itNot to get all "back in my day" on here, but I've definitely seen a huge difference in college students since the 10 years I've been out. Like, they're way more whiny and soft and self entitled. Kinda scary.
amazing
Post by: The Big Train on December 22, 2016, 02:21:44 PM
Post by: Asteriskhead on December 22, 2016, 02:54:46 PM
NYT had an article about that this week but i got paywalled :millennial:Only because society enables them to be suchRe: the OP, we should probably stop pretending that college students are "kids" rather than the adults they actually are.
18 year olds are legally adults, sure. The vast majority of 18-26 year olds I've ever met are still children.
I'm pretty sure their brains are still developing quite a bit, too.
Hmm... I'm wondering if new research has been published. Last I remember reading, it's somewhere around the mid-20's the brain finally finishes developing. iirc, the ability to properly assess risk is part of those final changes.
Post by: Asteriskhead on December 22, 2016, 02:56:10 PM
Only because society enables them to be suchRe: the OP, we should probably stop pretending that college students are "kids" rather than the adults they actually are.
18 year olds are legally adults, sure. The vast majority of 18-26 year olds I've ever met are still children.
partly true, partly not.
Post by: CNS on December 22, 2016, 02:57:58 PM
Its an awesome cycle isn't itNot to get all "back in my day" on here, but I've definitely seen a huge difference in college students since the 10 years I've been out. Like, they're way more whiny and soft and self entitled. Kinda scary.
amazing
I bet they weren't beat enough as kids. :dunno:
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 22, 2016, 03:03:37 PM
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on December 22, 2016, 03:07:07 PM
NYT had an article about that this week but i got paywalled :millennial:Only because society enables them to be suchRe: the OP, we should probably stop pretending that college students are "kids" rather than the adults they actually are.
18 year olds are legally adults, sure. The vast majority of 18-26 year olds I've ever met are still children.
I'm pretty sure their brains are still developing quite a bit, too.
Hmm... I'm wondering if new research has been published. Last I remember reading, it's somewhere around the mid-20's the brain finally finishes developing. iirc, the ability to properly assess risk is part of those final changes.
All the more reason to be pushing tens of thousands of dollars of student loan debt on these kids to purchase worthless "_____ Studies" degrees in order to bankroll liberal professors and indoctrinate liberal thought, amirite?
Brought to you by the same liberals who decried TrumpU as a scam. :lol:
Post by: bubbles4ksu on December 22, 2016, 03:20:18 PM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on December 22, 2016, 03:20:47 PM
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on December 22, 2016, 03:44:51 PM
I would hope most conservatives would also realize that Trump U was a scam, too.
I imagine all real estate investing seminars, TrumpU included, are at least somewhat scam-y, but I will also wager that TrumpU attendees gleaned more practical knowledge than the recipient of a Black Transgender Studies degree, and probably paid less for it, too.
Post by: Asteriskhead on December 22, 2016, 03:57:52 PM
holy straw man.
he mad.
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on December 22, 2016, 04:03:04 PM
I would hope most conservatives would also realize that Trump U was a scam, too.
I imagine all real estate investing seminars, TrumpU included, are at least somewhat scam-y, but I will also wager that TrumpU attendees gleaned more practical knowledge than the recipient of a Black Transgender Studies degree, and probably paid less for it, too.
I disagree.
Post by: Gooch on December 22, 2016, 04:25:53 PM
Yes, It is literally the exact opposite of you IRL.I would drink a beer with Panj and talk Star Wars. That seems like a pretty cool thing that could happen in 2017. It probably won't ever happen because of where we live and our irl social circles, but I probably wouldn't even be aware that particular guy exists out there in this world if this was 20 years ago. I think that's pretty cool.
We need to figure out a way to do this, pmshead. I would enjoy it very much.
(https://media1.giphy.com/media/A9KfKenpqNDfa/200_s.gif)
Like, I don't know pmshead or panj from adam irl, but eff if these dweebs aren't poster children for the WSJ series of losery millenials. Socially Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) weirdos pissed off at anyone who isn't a pissed off little weirdo.
Like I always said, if you're ugly and can't play sports just star wars.
This is very, very funny.
Post by: bubbles4ksu on December 22, 2016, 04:47:02 PM
he's right about pmshead tho.
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on December 23, 2016, 03:42:45 PM
4. While crime rate has been trending downward overall, violent crime is up.
fact check alert***
status-incorrect
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcdn.factcheck.org%2FUploadedFiles%2F2016%2F07%2FViolent-Crime-Rate-Chart1.png&hash=f4182e36c259159746089fe87ca36e2741f41be4)
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcdn.factcheck.org%2FUploadedFiles%2F2016%2F07%2FMurder-Rate-Chart.png&hash=a173b854d4c02884036c20c6f5da735937aa6db8)
http://www.factcheck.org/2016/07/dueling-claims-on-crime-trend/
What trump was actually talking about before the media changed his message in order to call him a liar
http://www.wsj.com/articles/homicides-rose-in-most-big-cities-this-year-1482402602
Post by: star seed 7 on December 23, 2016, 03:43:54 PM
Post by: Phil Titola on December 24, 2016, 09:05:26 AM
4. While crime rate has been trending downward overall, violent crime is up.
fact check alert***
status-incorrect
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcdn.factcheck.org%2FUploadedFiles%2F2016%2F07%2FViolent-Crime-Rate-Chart1.png&hash=f4182e36c259159746089fe87ca36e2741f41be4)
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcdn.factcheck.org%2FUploadedFiles%2F2016%2F07%2FMurder-Rate-Chart.png&hash=a173b854d4c02884036c20c6f5da735937aa6db8)
http://www.factcheck.org/2016/07/dueling-claims-on-crime-trend/
What trump was actually talking about before the media changed his message in order to call him a liar
http://www.wsj.com/articles/homicides-rose-in-most-big-cities-this-year-1482402602
He is an idiot then.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on December 24, 2016, 10:49:56 AM
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on December 24, 2016, 11:13:41 AM
Post by: Dugout DickStone on December 24, 2016, 11:17:12 AM
4. While crime rate has been trending downward overall, violent crime is up.
fact check alert***
status-incorrect
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcdn.factcheck.org%2FUploadedFiles%2F2016%2F07%2FViolent-Crime-Rate-Chart1.png&hash=f4182e36c259159746089fe87ca36e2741f41be4)
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcdn.factcheck.org%2FUploadedFiles%2F2016%2F07%2FMurder-Rate-Chart.png&hash=a173b854d4c02884036c20c6f5da735937aa6db8)
http://www.factcheck.org/2016/07/dueling-claims-on-crime-trend/
What trump was actually talking about before the media changed his message in order to call him a liar
http://www.wsj.com/articles/homicides-rose-in-most-big-cities-this-year-1482402602
He is an idiot then.
Don't take literal
Post by: SdK on December 24, 2016, 12:19:47 PM
Post by: kso_FAN on December 24, 2016, 12:36:41 PM
Post by: sys on December 24, 2016, 12:55:01 PM
Post by: renocat on January 06, 2017, 11:03:17 PM
Post by: The Big Train on January 06, 2017, 11:05:54 PM
PsychoDude ships gun through in luggage, takes it out at baggage claim, and kills 5. More security likely coming. What in the hell is going on?
totally preventable, baggage claim will only ship to a locked trunk that only unlocks miles away from the airport it arrived at
Post by: mocat on January 07, 2017, 07:54:09 AM
https://ourworldindata.org/a-history-of-global-living-conditions-in-5-charts/
Great link
Post by: renocat on July 07, 2017, 06:41:56 AM
https://www.google.com/amp/www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/young-men-work-less-video-games-to-blame/
Post by: Republicat on July 10, 2017, 04:01:45 PM
Video games is the answer to what screwing up America. We are letting kids watch this trash. They have no civic sense. Violence in these damn things are the cause of all of the hate in our country. Now they are trying to develop sex gaming. Young are becoming loafers according to CBS. Learn to play with real things you bug eyed mean loafers.
https://www.google.com/amp/www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/young-men-work-less-video-games-to-blame/
You could have just said poor parenting.....and I would agree with you. Especially in urban areas, where the majority of the population associate with the democratic party.
Post by: cfbandyman on July 10, 2017, 04:13:19 PM
https://ourworldindata.org/a-history-of-global-living-conditions-in-5-charts/
Great link
Indeed
Post by: renocat on December 16, 2017, 03:06:56 PM
This stinks. A mess. The blacken the mood of people. We need to use mandatory birth control money to fix sewers. We don't need sewer gyssers goin off in cities.
Post by: star seed 7 on December 16, 2017, 05:14:29 PM
Post by: mocat on December 16, 2017, 06:33:39 PM
Social media is another big thing that's wrong, people just hiding behind their screens thinking they can say whatever they want.
Ironic from the guy that wanted an anon message boarding feature
Oh man
Post by: dal9 on December 16, 2017, 11:47:28 PM
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/the-sewer-system-crisis-about-to-hit-the-heartland/ar-BBGDjybpublic sewers=socialism
This stinks. A mess. The blacken the mood of people. We need to use mandatory birth control money to fix sewers. We don't need sewer gyssers goin off in cities.
Post by: The Big Train on December 17, 2017, 04:33:19 PM
Social media is another big thing that's wrong, people just hiding behind their screens thinking they can say whatever they want.
Ironic from the guy that wanted an anon message boarding feature
Oh man
:confused:
Post by: catastrophe on December 18, 2017, 12:26:44 PM
PsychoDude ships gun through in luggage, takes it out at baggage claim, and kills 5. More security likely coming. What in the hell is going on?
totally preventable, baggage claim will only ship to a locked trunk that only unlocks miles away from the airport it arrived at
Baggage claim in most airports is an unsecured area. Very little to prevent someone to just walk in and open fire, so I think this would be a pretty minor concern really.
Post by: _33 on December 18, 2017, 01:08:12 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on December 18, 2017, 01:12:45 PM
To answer the OP, TBH, the main problem with the country right now is we stopped ignoring politics. Way too much faith put into politics to change our lives for the better, and way too much blame on politics when our lives are not going so well.
Examples?
Post by: Kat Kid on December 18, 2017, 02:37:15 PM
To answer the OP, TBH, the main problem with the country right now is we stopped ignoring politics. Way too much faith put into politics to change our lives for the better, and way too much blame on politics when our lives are not going so well.
yep, universal agreement on the fact that politics have no effect on people.
Post by: Gooch on December 18, 2017, 02:51:21 PM
Correct. Just going to need to pull your own crap up by the boot straps.https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/the-sewer-system-crisis-about-to-hit-the-heartland/ar-BBGDjybpublic sewers=socialism
This stinks. A mess. The blacken the mood of people. We need to use mandatory birth control money to fix sewers. We don't need sewer gyssers goin off in cities.
Post by: _33 on December 18, 2017, 02:51:52 PM
To answer the OP, TBH, the main problem with the country right now is we stopped ignoring politics. Way too much faith put into politics to change our lives for the better, and way too much blame on politics when our lives are not going so well.
yep, universal agreement on the fact that politics have no effect on people.
Well, I didn't say there was no effect. I just believe that the effect is much, much, much smaller than most believe it to be. And I believe that for most people, and for the country, it would be healthy to realize that.
Post by: catastrophe on December 18, 2017, 03:56:42 PM
Post by: _33 on December 18, 2017, 07:20:19 PM
But, if people behave as if their lives are affected by politics, then aren't their lives affected by politics?
Well yeah, needlessly. That was my point. It's like if some HUSKGUY beats his wife every time Nebraska loses a football game. He's letting something have power over his behavior that is essentially meaningless and should not have that influence.
Post by: star seed 7 on December 18, 2017, 07:40:41 PM
Post by: dal9 on December 18, 2017, 09:18:31 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on December 18, 2017, 09:20:42 PM
Post by: catastrophe on December 19, 2017, 06:45:25 AM
Post by: The Big Train on January 26, 2018, 09:21:12 PM
https://www.wired.com/story/face-swap-porn-legal-limbo/
Post by: The Big Train on January 27, 2018, 08:04:15 AM
I know this isn’t what this thread is about but the title fits. I love technology and AI innovations but coupled with twisted minds can lead to disturbing things.
https://www.wired.com/story/face-swap-porn-legal-limbo/
How is this different from a caricature?
Did you even read the article?
Post by: catastrophe on January 27, 2018, 09:44:50 AM
Post by: 8manpick on January 27, 2018, 10:46:12 AM
The difference I see is that the caricature is clearly not you, and isn't attributing false actions to you. This would seem to fall into some part of defamation/libel/slander.I know this isn’t what this thread is about but the title fits. I love technology and AI innovations but coupled with twisted minds can lead to disturbing things.
https://www.wired.com/story/face-swap-porn-legal-limbo/
How is this different from a caricature?
Did you even read the article?
I did. And legally don't see a difference between a caricature that is protected speech and fake pornography.
From the article:
You can’t sue someone for exposing the intimate details of your life when it’s not your life they’re exposing.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 27, 2018, 10:48:29 AM
Post by: The Big Train on January 27, 2018, 11:14:50 AM
The difference I see is that the caricature is clearly not you, and isn't attributing false actions to you. This would seem to fall into some part of defamation/libel/slander.I know this isn’t what this thread is about but the title fits. I love technology and AI innovations but coupled with twisted minds can lead to disturbing things.
https://www.wired.com/story/face-swap-porn-legal-limbo/
How is this different from a caricature?
Did you even read the article?
I did. And legally don't see a difference between a caricature that is protected speech and fake pornography.
From the article:
You can’t sue someone for exposing the intimate details of your life when it’s not your life they’re exposing.
Then it becomes a matter of realism. Did you believe Abraham Lincoln hunted vampires? I would be just as skeptical of Gal Gadot in porn. If the person making the movie claimed it was authentic; that would be different.
What happens when it’s YOU in a video? Feel any different?
Post by: Dugout DickStone on January 27, 2018, 11:30:50 AM
In conclusion, America is the tits and getting drunk at Regan National is a treat
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 27, 2018, 11:42:42 AM
Post by: Dugout DickStone on January 27, 2018, 11:48:13 AM
Post by: wetwillie on January 27, 2018, 11:54:36 AM
Post by: Dugout DickStone on January 27, 2018, 12:07:20 PM
19th best aint bad
Pick any of the 1-18 and I’ll mock them relentlessly itt
Post by: wetwillie on January 27, 2018, 12:23:59 PM
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on January 27, 2018, 12:42:21 PM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 27, 2018, 12:49:15 PM
I’m with wacks here guys, this country is really outstanding and I’m not just saying that:thumbs:
Post by: Dugout DickStone on January 27, 2018, 05:28:14 PM
Norway
Cold af
Defenseless
No pro sports
Never been to space
They only eat fish so everyone stinks
Next!
Post by: wetwillie on January 27, 2018, 05:29:36 PM
Post by: Dugout DickStone on January 27, 2018, 05:38:30 PM
Switzerland
The most notorious pussies in our planets history
Never been to space either
No pro sports
Never hosted the olympics
Food is rat garbage
Post by: wetwillie on January 27, 2018, 05:56:52 PM
Post by: Dugout DickStone on January 27, 2018, 06:00:03 PM
Australia
Super super racists
More than 2/3 country is a desert
Space lol they don’t even try because too stupid
No pro sports teams
No place to ski
Really just a big island that’s uninhabitable
Post by: wetwillie on January 27, 2018, 06:03:01 PM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 27, 2018, 06:06:41 PM
Most deadliest animals on earth. Next.Australia
Super super racists
More than 2/3 country is a desert
Space lol they don’t even try because too stupid
No pro sports teams
No place to ski
Really just a big island that’s uninhabitable
Post by: Dugout DickStone on January 27, 2018, 06:30:55 PM
Sweden
See Swiss, but fatter
Post by: sys on March 08, 2018, 04:10:59 PM
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2018/03/is-it-so-hard-to-denounce-louis-farrakhans-anti-semitism.html
Post by: treysolid on March 08, 2018, 04:18:01 PM
Australia
Super super racists
More than 2/3 country is a desert
Space lol they don’t even try because too stupid
No pro sports teams
No place to ski
Really just a big island that’s uninhabitable
lol wrong
Post by: treysolid on March 08, 2018, 04:19:51 PM
Australia
Super super racists
More than 2/3 country is a desert
Space lol they don’t even try because too stupid
No pro sports teams
No place to ski
Really just a big island that’s uninhabitable
lol wrong
also wrong for every other country you said it for
Post by: sys on March 08, 2018, 06:25:21 PM
here's one thing.
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2018/03/is-it-so-hard-to-denounce-louis-farrakhans-anti-semitism.html
this should probably have its own thread. oh well.
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/03/womens-march/555122/