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General Discussion => Essentially Flyertalk => Topic started by: mocat on December 16, 2016, 11:16:45 AM
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i have recently been looking into circumnavigating the globe. if you use real money it can be done in the $4000-$5000 range, but if you use miles i have been getting results around 125k-160k, which seems crazy low to me. here are a few dummy itineraries using delta's engine and skyteam partners. the key is to find nonstops between your destinations a) because nobody likes layovers and b) because why waste the time flying to a place without exploring it!
also i always end up in tokyo for a punipak :D
kc - rome - abu dhabi/dubai - guangzhou - tokyo - kc
162,500 + $344
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kc - london - dubai - seoul - tokyo - kc
137,500 + $291
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kc - nyc - moscow - ho chi minh city - tokyo - mci -
147,500 + $308
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post your own!
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is it better to go east or west?
is is "safe" enough to go to istanbul or israel or egypt?
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That sounds so rough ridin' awesome.
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is it better to go east or west?
is is "safe" enough to go to istanbul or israel or egypt?
you add a couple of GE encounters to your trip
1. Felix Rex = wherever the hell you fly into to go to Jordan
2. Puni = Toyko
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i think it is easier biologically /timezonally to go west.
istanbul is a great place. i think it's safe.
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I wish I'd have done something like that when I was younger.
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roundtrip from JFK to stockholm for $307 :surprised:
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this is an awesome idea, mocat. i hope you do this or something similar.
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holy crap i'm doing this.
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You're gonna get playa hated
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Wait so you're just flying and not taking time to enjoy any destinations.
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That was a question disguised as a statement?
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He has 3-4 days between each flight, emo.
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i think it is easier biologically /timezonally to go west.
istanbul is a great place. i think it's safe.
Hmmm
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Less airtime going east tho right?
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Less airtime going east tho right?
Well yeah, coriolis effect, etc.
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Less airtime going east tho right?
Well yeah, coriolis effect, etc.
DFW-Tokyo is 14 hrs. Tokyo-DFW is 10 hours. Jet stream, bros.
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Less airtime going east tho right?
Well yeah, coriolis effect, etc.
DFW-Tokyo is 14 hrs. Tokyo-DFW is 10 hours. Jet stream, bros.
So you're agreeing with me, right?
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At first I got east and west confused so I was arguing but now I'm agreeing. I don't know if the jet stream is related to the Coriolis effect though.
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Wikipedia says yes, related.
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When you drive on the wrong side of the road, you just switch left and right in your head and, by extension, east and west.
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:thumbs:
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When you drive on the wrong side of the road, you just switch left and right in your head and, by extension, east and west.
Are the gas and brake peddles backwards?
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When you drive on the wrong side of the road, you just switch left and right in your head and, by extension, east and west.
Are the gas and brake peddles backwards?
Nope!
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amazing that these three words are an entire seven minute daft punk song
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i think it is easier biologically /timezonally to go west.
istanbul is a great place. i think it's safe.
Seems a little dicey these days. Gotta believe Israel is pretty safe.
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I steer clear of any countries featured in that Locked Up Abroad show. I pretty much just never leave the U.S.
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Tel Aviv is legit. I don't know why you'd choose to hang with Muslims when you could hang with Jews, assuming you had done neither before.
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amazing that these three words are an entire seven minute daft punk song
Welp/goddamnit!
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I steer clear of any countries featured in that Locked Up Abroad show. I pretty much just never leave the U.S.
You really can't get good chicken fried steak with gravy anywhere else anyway.
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Wow United's new site is good. I'd suggest India because it's possibly the most difficult Eurasia location to get to from the US (and IMO more interesting to visit than most of the world). Or Moscow which was on one of your trips.
I can do SFO-FRA-DEL-BKK-NRT-SFO for 147k + $200 through United. (United's award search is SO much better now). BONUS: get to fly on a 747 (still cool even if old as eff), a 787, and an A380.
Hard part is hotels. Also Frankfurt wouldn't be my first choice but United partners don't have a ton of directs from SFO to Europe.
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I forgot about Turkish Airlines!
Can do SFO-IST-DEL-BKK-NRT-SFO for 147k +$125
damn I need to do this
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I have a friend in ho chi minh city, the one with that and moscow and tokyo is my favorite rn
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There is a hyatt in moscow
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I tried to involve India instead of boring and western af dubai, but skyteam doesn't really have much India service afaik
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I forgot about Turkish Airlines!
Can do SFO-IST-DEL-BKK-NRT-SFO for 147k +$125
damn I need to do this
That itinerary is hot af, no layovers! Look at how low that fee is!
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I have a friend in ho chi minh city, the one with that and moscow and tokyo is my favorite rn
Yes that would be my favorite of yours as well.
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If I did this I would definitely go through Australia instead of J-Land but regardless sounds fun!
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And I'm sure you can do Air France or Aeroflot to India.
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Australia is not a good place to go through. look at a map. It's also so boring compared to Japan, why would you go to the America of the southern hemisphere when you could party with puni in one of then most bizarre cultures and largest cities in existence?
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i'm a huge austraila fan but it seems against the spirit of the event imho
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Sort of related but order of continents I would visit:
Antarctica
Australia
Africa
Asia
South America
Europe(only this low because I've already been there)
So going through Australia would be ideal for me. Also I could pop over to New Zealand and see that too. J-Land sounds cool but if I'm traveling around the world I wouldn't use it as a hub.
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Everyone here tells me that Vietnam is a great travel destination. Super cheap and friendly and easy.
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Everyone here tells me that Vietnam is a great travel destination. Super cheap and friendly and easy.
I agree. Vietnam is lovely. Food is great, too.
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No way I'd go east of Czech republic or west of Japan
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No way I'd go east of Czech republic or west of Japan
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That's dumb. why even travel?
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:/
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China? Singapore? Macau?Korea? Vietnam? Thailand? Bali? Nepal? Taiwan?
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China? Singapore? Macau?Korea? Vietnam? Thailand? Bali? Nepal? Taiwan?
I love Shanghai, don't like Guangzhou. Never been to Beijing. Hong Kong is amazing, not sure about Macau though. Singapore is interesting but sterile. I'd also look at Philippines for beaches if you're considering Bali. and Vietnam is definitely great.
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Tel Aviv is legit. I don't know why you'd choose to hang with Muslims when you could hang with Jews, assuming you had done neither before.
I have family that has lived in Tel Aviv and think it is possible to say it might be worth visiting without being a racist bad person. I would be more interested in visiting all sorts of other cities in the region that were more historically important, but again, also because I am not a racist bad person.
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No way I'd go east of Czech republic or west of Japan
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That's dumb. why even travel?
This is smart, especially if you don't travel for work, to focus on parts of the world you have interest in. The world is enormous and your time and money aren't. I think pushing yourself is a laudable goal, but so is being practical and realistic.
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No way I'd go east of Czech republic or west of Japan
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That's dumb. why even travel?
This is smart, especially if you don't travel for work, to focus on parts of the world you have interest in. The world is enormous and your time and money aren't. I think pushing yourself is a laudable goal, but so is being practical and realistic.
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Yes, good points - my response wasn't exactly well thought out. But his post seemed to be based on strange geographical restrictions rather than his interests. Like why is Czech Republic realistic and practical but Greece or Hungary aren't? They certainly aren't significantly more difficult or expensive to get to.
And in all seriousness, you could have pretty fascinating trips and experiences for the rest of your life and never leave North America or even the United States. If you don't want to go past Japan because it's too far, why even bother crossing an ocean?
Personally, I'd be very content to never travel anywhere outside of North America again.
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Because Greece and Hungary are third world Euro countries
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When I was I college there was an hbo doc about orphans in Hungary that sniffed paint all day
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No thanks
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i've never had any real interest in asia. i'd like my around the world to go heavy on s america, and europe/middle east with at least one africa. i don't think you can even do that though. seems like there's not a lot of north-southing allowed.
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South America is one of the absolute worst travel destinations based on the Locked Up Abroad scale.
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i've never had any real interest in asia. i'd like my around the world to go heavy on s america, and europe/middle east with at least one africa. i don't think you can even do that though. seems like there's not a lot of north-southing allowed.
Planes don't fly over Antarctica because the earth is flat
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i've never had any real interest in asia. i'd like my around the world to go heavy on s america, and europe/middle east with at least one africa. i don't think you can even do that though. seems like there's not a lot of north-southing allowed.
Planes don't fly over Antarctica because the earth is flat
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Why would that matter?
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take a science class and maybe you'll figure it out on your own
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i've never had any real interest in asia. i'd like my around the world to go heavy on s america, and europe/middle east with at least one africa. i don't think you can even do that though. seems like there's not a lot of north-southing allowed.
this is me
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Tel Aviv is legit. I don't know why you'd choose to hang with Muslims when you could hang with Jews, assuming you had done neither before.
I have family that has lived in Tel Aviv and think it is possible to say it might be worth visiting without being a racist bad person. I would be more interested in visiting all sorts of other cities in the region that were more historically important, but again, also because I am not a racist bad person.
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Different people like different stuff. I found Tel Aviv to be a chiller version of Miami. Has a lot more to do with culture than race (or in this case religion). Is it bigoted to say one is more fun than the other? Sorry to upset the hypersensitive PC police.
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Also if one was spending three or four days there they could easily make a day trip to Jerusalem as its pretty close, like less then 90 minutes.
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It's cheaper to go east. I have found MCI-DFW-NRT-CGK-BOM-DXB-LHR-ORD-MCI AND BACK for <$3300
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tokyocats get HND or die trying. NRT is like MCI but if MCI were in maryville
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Tel Aviv is legit. I don't know why you'd choose to hang with Muslims when you could hang with Jews, assuming you had done neither before.
I have family that has lived in Tel Aviv and think it is possible to say it might be worth visiting without being a racist bad person. I would be more interested in visiting all sorts of other cities in the region that were more historically important, but again, also because I am not a racist bad person.
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Different people like different stuff. I found Tel Aviv to be a chiller version of Miami. Has a lot more to do with culture than race (or in this case religion). Is it bigoted to say one is more fun than the other? Sorry to upset the hypersensitive PC police.
You didn't say tel Aviv was like Miami or that it was better for partying than Istanbul or Cairo, you said "I don't know why you'd choose to hang with Muslims when you could hang with Jews, assuming you had done neither before".
Can you see how one way of getting your point across could be considered offensive and the other might not be? Or how they aren't really the same point?
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I don't care if it is offensive if it's true.
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But by all means, if you prefer to hang with people who hate homosexuals, won't let you interact with half the population (women), and don't drink, go for it. I'm sure the museums are great or something.
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Ya, and I guess you're a rapist and drug dealer.
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fwiw, Czech Republic, Hungary, Poland, Greece, and Romania are all nice to visit.
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I've heard Italy is dookie. avoid Italy (based on what I've heard)
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Ya, and I guess you're a rapist and drug dealer.
take your locker room talk somewhere else
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MCI-LIS-DEL-SGN-NRT/HND-MCI
now this one is a little wonky because i'm mixing up carriers and stuff, but all the stops are places i want to go
MCI-LIS 30k united miles + $9, 1 stop in YYZ, air canada / TAP portugal <--- any of the big 3 can get you to lisbon for 30k, but united has the best available schedule, and anyone reading the CC thread can easily scrape together 30k UR's to transfer
LIS-DEL 20k aa miles + $175, 1 stop in LHR, BA metal (787!) <---- i may just do business class on this one for 42.5k + $238
DEL-SGN $99, air asia x, 1 stop in KUL <---- this route was difficult to find with points, but if it's available for $99 this is definitely the best deal
@puniraptor i know NRT sucks, but does it suck enough to void the advantage of a nonstop and $80 price difference?
SGN-NRT 22.5k skymiles + $21, nonstop, vietnam airlines
*or*
SGN-HND 22.5k skymiles + $100, 1 stop in CAN, vietnam airlines
and finally
HND-MCI 35k skymiles + $44, 1 stop in MSP, delta
TOTAL
30k united miles
20k (or 42.5k) aa miles
57.5k skymiles
$348 (or $411)
:excited:
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Isn't there a 3 and 5 continent packages in the back of the delta catalog? I've always noticed that on delta flights for going round the world. I also thing there are entire websites devoted to this kind of trek. Would of course be fun a huge feather in the cap. But I'd rather spend time in a place rather than spending most of in a plane.
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Isn't there a 3 and 5 continent packages in the back of the delta catalog? I've always noticed that on delta flights for going round the world. I also thing there are entire websites devoted to this kind of trek. Would of course be fun a huge feather in the cap. But I'd rather spend time in a place rather than spending most of in a plane.
skyteam does have a website for around the world. that's where the $4000-$5000 came from. i want to do it for 108k miles and $350.
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the more i think about it, 42.5k miles in business class on a brand new british airways 787-9 from lisbon to delhi is just about the most ridiculous thing i have heard of
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@mocat I guess you're still winning by not flying out of NRT. What's the travel time? NRT is 90 minutes and $20 from anywhere you want to be, if that helps.
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Just pretend you're a ku athlete recruit and enjoy that 90 chauffeured drive
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I'd rather spend time in a place rather than spending most of in a plane.
i'm with you. the idea of around the worlding sounds neat, but really i'd just like to go to a place and stay there for a year or so.
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i hate the actually being inside a plane part of travel for anything over like six hours. i don't think this is for me, or would need to maximize connections
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Being inside planes is booty, you are correct 'bias
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The positive thing here tho is that I get bored af of pretty much any place after 2 days, so just doing 2 days in a bunch of spots is p cool
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getting on a plane and getting off are such great rushes it's almost worth it
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What about the added challenge of doing six continents? You know, while you're at it!
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What about the added challenge of doing six continents? You know, while you're at it!
if i could get that much time off of work maybe
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I think I'd need 2 different trips to hit every continent. One northern hemisphere and one southern.
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It would be cool to do all 7 continents as a thing to accomplish, but I think doing 6 is a more reasonable goal.
I currently only have Asia and Australia to go, which seems very doable.
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Skip Japan, too. Leaving the US is just asking for trouble.
Jailed in Japan for a crime she didn’t commit, a young American teacher learns the meaning of the phrase sho ga nai — “It can’t be helped.”
http://nymag.com/vindicated/2016/11/truth-lies-and-videotape-at-the-kawasaki-kmart.html
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Skip Japan, too. Leaving the US is just asking for trouble.
Jailed in Japan for a crime she didn’t commit, a young American teacher learns the meaning of the phrase sho ga nai — “It can’t be helped.”
http://nymag.com/vindicated/2016/11/truth-lies-and-videotape-at-the-kawasaki-kmart.html
this is actually a good story though. no negative consequences. far more interesting than just a normal experience of living and teaching here i'm sure.
its true that they can hold you that long without telling anybody and even without filing charges.
lots of stores in shopping centers are packed closely with no obvious borders, so I have actually been stopped inadvertently walking out of shops without paying, but they have always been really gracious about it guiding me back to pay. probably my MALE PRIVILEGEtm keeps me out of jail?
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it even gave her the confidence to ditch her shitty fiance
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this is actually a good story though. no negative consequences. far more interesting than just a normal experience of living and teaching here i'm sure.
I thought it was a positive that she lost weight.
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here's a pretty simple one
MCI -> Boston -> Amsterdam (train to...) Paris -> Tokyo -> MCI
134,500 skymiles + $114.71
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you have to stop and see india or the middle east between paris and tokyo
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ok fine here's a fun one
MCI -> Boston -> Amsterdam (train to...) Paris -> Mumbai -> Bangkok -> Tokyo -> MCI
all directs except for flight to Tokyo
177,000 miles + $315.51
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one night in bangkok smdh
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You doing all of that in main cabin? :sdeek:
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only so many miles to work with
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I highly recommend the Singapore airport.
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https://twitter.com/AMLwhere/status/998589787471859712