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Title: 4th District
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on November 18, 2016, 12:11:38 PM
Now that Pompeo is going to be the CIA director, do we get to have a special election?
Title: Re: 4th District
Post by: yoga-like_abana on November 18, 2016, 12:15:42 PM
pretty strong district.. wealthy and known for its fishing
Title: Re: 4th District
Post by: Emo EMAW on November 18, 2016, 01:37:33 PM
pretty strong district.. wealthy and known for its fishing

Median income   $40,917  :frown:
Title: Re: 4th District
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on November 18, 2016, 01:43:22 PM
pretty strong district.. wealthy and known for its fishing

Median income   $40,917  :frown:

Wealthier than District 2, anyway. Kind of surprising how much wealthier District 1 is than 4.
Title: Re: 4th District
Post by: renocat on November 18, 2016, 09:45:34 PM
Congressman Brownback?  Tim Loserkamp?  Tihart? Kobach?
Title: Re: 4th District
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on November 18, 2016, 11:12:39 PM
No. We get to have a special election.
Title: Re: 4th District
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on November 21, 2016, 09:06:57 PM
Charles Koch would be a good one.
Title: Re: 4th District
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on March 28, 2017, 09:00:30 AM
Don’t forget about the special election on April 11.
Title: Re: 4th District
Post by: MakeItRain on March 28, 2017, 12:59:19 PM
pretty strong district.. wealthy and known for its fishing

Median income   $40,917  :frown:

Wealthier than District 2, anyway. Kind of surprising how much wealthier District 1 is than 4.

District 1 is wealthy?
Title: Re: 4th District
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on March 28, 2017, 06:55:59 PM
pretty strong district.. wealthy and known for its fishing

Median income   $40,917  :frown:

Wealthier than District 2, anyway. Kind of surprising how much wealthier District 1 is than 4.

District 1 is wealthy?

I think I typed that backwards.
Title: Re: 4th District
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on April 11, 2017, 08:42:00 AM
Don’t forget about the special election on April 11.

Last chance today.
Title: Re: 4th District
Post by: star seed 7 on April 11, 2017, 09:16:44 AM
Apparently Republicans are slightly worried about this seat. There are trump robocalls going out, I saw a transcript of one and it's pretty lol and very trumpy
Title: Re: 4th District
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on April 11, 2017, 09:20:48 AM
Can't wait to see who wins this race. I'm not a big fan of Estes, and don't know anything about the Thompson other than he appears to toe the liberal party line on most issues. I voted for Estes but won't be terribly disappointed on a micro-level if he loses.

But at a macro level this race is fascinating. Trump won this district 60-33. This could be a good test of whether the recent town hall protests are truly indicative of a liberal backlash, or just the same liberal professional protesters. My hypothesis is that it is the latter.

Here's how I break down who has the advantages in this race.....
- Money: Push. Both national parties have poured money into this race.
- Demographics: Estes. This is a reliably red district.
- Candidate: Thompson. He is viewed as an outsider and (I hear) has run better ads. Estes is dull and has run a lackluster campaign.
- Headwinds: Thompson. An unpopular GOP governor and Trump's fading popularity threaten to suppress GOP turnout.
- Enthusiasm: Thompson. Special elections, in particular, can swing wildly based upon voter turnout. It is likely that libs are more enthusiastic about this race than the pubs.

So Thompson has every advantage in this race except for the big one: basic demographics. Therefore, if Estes wins comfortably (10+ points) I think that supports my hypothesis and is good news for the GOP and bad news for the liberals. If Thompson wins comfortably, that's great news for the liberals (but that's not going to happen).

If the race is closer than 10 points.... I'm not sure what that means. It depends upon which of Thompson's advantages was most responsible. The fact that he is a more appealing candidate? Estes being dragged down by Brownback? Or is there really a liberal electoral backlash swelling?

I believe there are a few more special elections in the next few months to better test the theory. I wouldn't put too much stock in just this race unless it's a blowout either way.
Title: Re: 4th District
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on April 11, 2017, 09:34:04 AM
Have the liberals been filling town hall meetings in the Kansas 4th district? My thoughts are that Estes will win by about 20-30 points and the ads I've been seeing are a waste of money.
Title: Re: 4th District
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on April 11, 2017, 09:36:01 AM
FYI - You don't have to be a liberal to not want a lying Brownback clone who won't even show up to represent his constituents.
Title: Re: 4th District
Post by: Kat Kid on April 11, 2017, 10:13:41 AM
Can't wait to see who wins this race. I'm not a big fan of Estes, and don't know anything about the Thompson other than he appears to toe the liberal party line on most issues. I voted for Estes but won't be terribly disappointed on a micro-level if he loses.

But at a macro level this race is fascinating. Trump won this district 60-33. This could be a good test of whether the recent town hall protests are truly indicative of a liberal backlash, or just the same liberal professional protesters. My hypothesis is that it is the latter.

Here's how I break down who has the advantages in this race.....
- Money: Push. Both national parties have poured money into this race.
- Demographics: Estes. This is a reliably red district.
- Candidate: Thompson. He is viewed as an outsider and (I hear) has run better ads. Estes is dull and has run a lackluster campaign.
- Headwinds: Thompson. An unpopular GOP governor and Trump's fading popularity threaten to suppress GOP turnout.
- Enthusiasm: Thompson. Special elections, in particular, can swing wildly based upon voter turnout. It is likely that libs are more enthusiastic about this race than the pubs.

So Thompson has every advantage in this race except for the big one: basic demographics. Therefore, if Estes wins comfortably (10+ points) I think that supports my hypothesis and is good news for the GOP and bad news for the liberals. If Thompson wins comfortably, that's great news for the liberals (but that's not going to happen).

If the race is closer than 10 points.... I'm not sure what that means. It depends upon which of Thompson's advantages was most responsible. The fact that he is a more appealing candidate? Estes being dragged down by Brownback? Or is there really a liberal electoral backlash swelling?

I believe there are a few more special elections in the next few months to better test the theory. I wouldn't put too much stock in just this race unless it's a blowout either way.

what on earth
Title: Re: 4th District
Post by: star seed 7 on April 11, 2017, 10:16:36 AM
As goes the kansas 4th District, so goes the nation kk
Title: Re: 4th District
Post by: Kat Kid on April 11, 2017, 10:37:38 AM
our man in wichita has 500 words on the special election:
-there are two sides
-either side may win by a lot or it could be close
-either way probably doesn't mean much

can't wait for a follow up after results are in!
Title: Re: 4th District
Post by: Cire on April 11, 2017, 10:43:21 AM
lol
Title: Re: 4th District
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on April 11, 2017, 11:31:09 AM
Have the liberals been filling town hall meetings in the Kansas 4th district? My thoughts are that Estes will win by about 20-30 points and the ads I've been seeing are a waste of money.

I don't think there have been any 4th district town halls. Given that the seat is empty. I also think that Estes is going to win by 10+ points, which would be good news for the GOP given Thompson's various advantages. It'll be interesting reading the tea leaves if it is closer than that.

FYI - You don't have to be a liberal to not want a lying Brownback clone who won't even show up to represent his constituents.

I don't think Estes is a "lying Brownback clone" but maybe you can elaborate. More like vanilla ice cream cone.
Title: Re: 4th District
Post by: Kat Kid on April 11, 2017, 11:37:50 AM
in the actual real world Thompson's "advantages" include being turned down for a request for $20,000 (http://www.rollcall.com/news/politics/kansas-democratic-congressional-candidate-feuds-with-party) from the Kansas Democratic Party and not getting a finger lifted from the DNC  (https://twitter.com/daveweigel/status/850438247629156352) while Estes had Ted Cruz fly in and President Donald Trump record a robocall for him.

What are you even talking about?
Title: Re: 4th District
Post by: renocat on April 11, 2017, 11:38:21 AM
An old fat carpetbagger imported in from NE KS isn't what Wichita needs, even if he is a conservative crazed republican.
Title: Re: 4th District
Post by: star seed 7 on April 11, 2017, 11:40:04 AM
in the actual real world Thompson's "advantages" include being turned down for a request for $20,000 (http://www.rollcall.com/news/politics/kansas-democratic-congressional-candidate-feuds-with-party) from the Kansas Democratic Party and not getting a finger lifted from the DNC  (https://twitter.com/daveweigel/status/850438247629156352) while Estes had Ted Cruz fly in and President Donald Trump record a robocall for him.

What are you even talking about?

Pence too
Title: Re: 4th District
Post by: steve dave on April 11, 2017, 11:49:15 AM
there is literally no way the republican doesn't win this thing. a lot of people are underestimating the number of old retired rush listeners in this district. the only thing they love more than voting in local elections is getting the mail every day at the exact moment the mail guy arrives at their house.
Title: Re: 4th District
Post by: steve dave on April 11, 2017, 11:52:43 AM
that in depth truth analysis goes for the 1st and 2nd as well
Title: Re: 4th District
Post by: Kat Kid on April 11, 2017, 12:53:50 PM
I guess it should not be so surprising that a guy that thinks he is an oppressed because he is a HINRY thinks a democrat running for congress in KS gets all the breaks.
Title: Re: 4th District
Post by: star seed 7 on April 11, 2017, 01:06:42 PM
A decidedly schematic advantage
Title: Re: 4th District
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on April 11, 2017, 01:44:30 PM
in the actual real world Thompson's "advantages" include being turned down for a request for $20,000 (http://www.rollcall.com/news/politics/kansas-democratic-congressional-candidate-feuds-with-party) from the Kansas Democratic Party and not getting a finger lifted from the DNC  (https://twitter.com/daveweigel/status/850438247629156352) while Estes had Ted Cruz fly in and President Donald Trump record a robocall for him.

What are you even talking about?

Thompson hauled in plenty of cash from outside groups.

Quote
James Thompson, the Democrat running to fill the House seat vacated by Trump administration appointee Mike Pompeo, is seeing a last-minute fundraising surge in the days before Tuesday’s unexpectedly competitive Kansas special election.

Thompson, a civil rights attorney and Army veteran, raised approximately $240,000 in 20,000 individual donations, much of it since Thursday, according to his campaign manager, Colin Curtis. The haul was bolstered by an ActBlue fundraising campaign backed by several progressive grassroots groups, including Daily Kos, Democracy for America, and Our Revolution.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/james-thompson-kansas-election_us_58ea3423e4b05413bfe38f8b (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/james-thompson-kansas-election_us_58ea3423e4b05413bfe38f8b)

Title: Re: 4th District
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on April 11, 2017, 01:47:21 PM
I guess it should not be so surprising that a guy that thinks he is an oppressed because he is a HINRY thinks a democrat running for congress in KS gets all the breaks.

I didn't say that. I said he has certain advantages, but it likely still won't be enough to win because of the voting demographics.  :dunno:
Title: Re: 4th District
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on April 11, 2017, 02:08:51 PM
The Thompson ads were pretty lol, video of him shooting machine guns, lots of talk about the working man, family, etc. His political signs are notably agnostic regarding his party affiliation. He's clearly emulating the Donald in an effort trick Don voter into thinking he's a nee pub. Hard to envision a neo fascist berner voting for him.

Should be interesting. He's also had a way more visible campaign, and seemingly spent way more money.  All I've seen on Ron is that commercial of him walking around a farm with his gut hanging over his belt Texas style.
Title: Re: 4th District
Post by: SkinnyBenny on April 11, 2017, 09:44:41 PM
Where's the best place online to follow this?
Title: Re: 4th District
Post by: SdK on April 11, 2017, 09:47:59 PM
Who won?
Title: Re: 4th District
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on April 11, 2017, 09:55:37 PM
Who won?

The pub, obv
Title: Re: 4th District
Post by: sys on April 11, 2017, 10:17:01 PM
wow, that was close.
Title: Re: 4th District
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on April 11, 2017, 10:22:56 PM
Media calling it a moral victory for 'crats, which is very losery and also lol for a special election with piss poor turnout.

This quote was pretty great
Quote
“I believe that after tonight, the KS Republican Party will be 32-0 in federal and statewide elections since nominating Sam Brownback for Governor,” Brownback’s former chief of staff, David Kensinger, said in an email. “Good headline, no?”
Title: Re: 4th District
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on April 11, 2017, 10:24:09 PM
wow, that was close.

8-9 points  :lol:
Title: Re: 4th District
Post by: SkinnyBenny on April 11, 2017, 10:25:34 PM
Media calling it a moral victory for 'crats, which is very losery and also lol for a special election with piss poor turnout.

This quote was pretty great
Quote
“I believe that after tonight, the KS Republican Party will be 32-0 in federal and statewide elections since nominating Sam Brownback for Governor,” Brownback’s former chief of staff, David Kensinger, said in an email. “Good headline, no?”

I mean sure, if you're completely tone deaf to the fact that even 'pubs hate Brownback now :dunno:
Title: Re: 4th District
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on April 11, 2017, 10:27:38 PM
Tone deaf would be thinking the democrats are mounting momentum
Title: Re: 4th District
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on April 11, 2017, 10:30:13 PM
Well, closer than it should have been in the 4th District. Let the tea leaf reading commence! I think for all the reasons I already stated this is probably not something for the liberals to get too excited about.
Title: Re: 4th District
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on April 11, 2017, 10:38:34 PM
They were so close 53-44, kansas is about to break left! Lots to be excited about here! Real ground swell brewing. Moral victories abound!
Title: Re: 4th District
Post by: cfbandyman on April 11, 2017, 10:44:55 PM
It's overblown to say it was a great pushback, but it's also naive to brush this off as a easy victory. IDK what's more crazy, the 23% swing, or the fact that 100,000+ voters didnt vote for him vs 26k for the dem. Understanding that that can be taken a lot of ways, but dems generally do poorly in special elections/midterms. Everything to be taken with grain of salt, but that +23% swing ain't nothing to jest about. We'll see how GA does next week.

U.S. House, Kansas District 4 General Election, 2016
Party   Candidate   Vote %   Votes
       Republican         Mike Pompeo Incumbent   60.7%   166,998
       Democratic   Daniel Giroux   29.6%   81,495
       Independent   Miranda Allen   6.9%   19,021
       Libertarian   Gordon Bakken   2.8%   7,737
        Total Votes                                  275,251



Ron Estes
Republican
63,505   52.5%   
James Thompson
Democrat
55,310   45.7   
Chris Rockhold
Libertarian
2,082   1.7   
Title: Re: 4th District
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on April 11, 2017, 10:46:42 PM
https://twitter.com/Mel_Ankoly/status/852000372495269890

https://twitter.com/Jacobnbc/status/851996292427526144

https://twitter.com/ryanstruyk/status/851995143930601472

https://twitter.com/deena_helm/status/851860737324703748
 :lol:
Title: Re: 4th District
Post by: sys on April 11, 2017, 10:54:35 PM
i think it's a lot more about brownback and his super shitty reign as governor than anything national.
Title: Re: 4th District
Post by: MakeItRain on April 11, 2017, 10:55:01 PM
Media calling it a moral victory for 'crats, which is very losery and also lol for a special election with piss poor turnout.

This quote was pretty great
Quote
“I believe that after tonight, the KS Republican Party will be 32-0 in federal and statewide elections since nominating Sam Brownback for Governor,” Brownback’s former chief of staff, David Kensinger, said in an email. “Good headline, no?”

I mean sure, if you're completely tone deaf to the fact that even 'pubs hate Brownback now :dunno:

Clearly nowhere close to enough.

And although the pubs have been winning the 4th by 20+ points only losing by 10 is still nightmarishly shitty in a metropolitan area and frankly one of the most diverse metro areas in the Midwest. Wichita is so cucked it's embarrassing, LOfuckingL at any Neanderthal that thinks Wichita is in any way shape or form better than Des Moines or Omaha. Decent zoo though.
Title: Re: 4th District
Post by: MakeItRain on April 11, 2017, 10:56:03 PM
https://twitter.com/Mel_Ankoly/status/852000372495269890

https://twitter.com/Jacobnbc/status/851996292427526144

https://twitter.com/ryanstruyk/status/851995143930601472

https://twitter.com/deena_helm/status/851860737324703748
 :lol:

How pathetic
Title: Re: 4th District
Post by: MakeItRain on April 11, 2017, 11:01:14 PM
i think it's a lot more about brownback and his super shitty reign as governor than anything national.

The democrats are going to go 0-fer his governorship, the KDP is a train wreck. In addition to that Kansas voters have to have the standard set for indifference and disengagement, moderate republicans can't even get a foothold. What a sad, pathetic lot; this happened just a week after the nation's worst governor chose politics over the health of children in the state.
Title: Re: 4th District
Post by: star seed 7 on April 11, 2017, 11:06:28 PM
Let fsd celebrate guys
Title: Re: 4th District
Post by: MakeItRain on April 11, 2017, 11:13:32 PM
Let fsd celebrate guys

I mean they won, morale victories are for suckers, especially when you never ever ever ever win.
Title: Re: 4th District
Post by: Kat Kid on April 11, 2017, 11:37:46 PM
i think it's a lot more about brownback and his super shitty reign as governor than anything national.

The democrats are going to go 0-fer his governorship, the KDP is a train wreck. In addition to that Kansas voters have to have the standard set for indifference and disengagement, moderate republicans can't even get a foothold. What a sad, pathetic lot; this happened just a week after the nation's worst governor chose politics over the health of children in the state.

I mean the national democrats are a bigger trainwreck all things considered, but at this level the KDP is much more lol worthy.
Title: Re: 4th District
Post by: MakeItRain on April 12, 2017, 12:31:34 AM
i think it's a lot more about brownback and his super shitty reign as governor than anything national.

The democrats are going to go 0-fer his governorship, the KDP is a train wreck. In addition to that Kansas voters have to have the standard set for indifference and disengagement, moderate republicans can't even get a foothold. What a sad, pathetic lot; this happened just a week after the nation's worst governor chose politics over the health of children in the state.

I mean the national democrats are a bigger trainwreck all things considered, but at this level the KDP is much more lol worthy.

I certainly won't argue that. It looks like the national democrats are going to be more forceful with their ideology and identity which is something that they need. Lazy indifference lost the election for them. They need to mobilize and stop trying to make a play for the independents by sacrificing party identity. Be proud to be liberal, trying to be a party of moderates has alienated a large sector of the electorate.
Title: Re: 4th District
Post by: Phil Titola on April 12, 2017, 07:56:59 AM
Republicans held serve in rural Kansas.  :Wha:
Title: Re: 4th District
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on April 12, 2017, 08:18:20 AM
i think it's a lot more about brownback and his super shitty reign as governor than anything national.

The democrats are going to go 0-fer his governorship, the KDP is a train wreck. In addition to that Kansas voters have to have the standard set for indifference and disengagement, moderate republicans can't even get a foothold. What a sad, pathetic lot; this happened just a week after the nation's worst governor chose politics over the health of children in the state.

Moderate republicans are winning primaries against more conservative candidates. They have enough of a foothold to pass a budget that repeals the Brownback tax cuts now. They just don't have enough of a foothold to override a veto.
Title: Re: 4th District
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on April 12, 2017, 08:20:14 AM
So much whining. The KDC isn't getting enough credit. Last election cycle, they managed to sneak quite a few liberals into the legislature by running them as Republicans in the GOP primaries, which is why the house is currently passing things like tax increases with no spending cuts and Medicaid expansion. Whoever the genius is that pulled off that scam ought to be running the DNC.
Title: Re: 4th District
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on April 12, 2017, 08:23:51 AM
So much whining. The KDC isn't getting enough credit. Last election cycle, they managed to sneak quite a few liberals into the legislature by running them as Republicans in the GOP primaries, which is why the house is currently passing things like tax increases with no spending cuts and Medicaid expansion. Whoever the genius is that pulled off that scam ought to be running the DNC.

pro-life, though
Title: Re: 4th District
Post by: star seed 7 on April 12, 2017, 08:24:57 AM
 :lol:
Title: Re: 4th District
Post by: AbeFroman on April 12, 2017, 09:43:35 AM
https://www.twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/852138509355933697

KSUW must be feeding his alt-facts to Trump about money spent
Title: Re: 4th District
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on April 12, 2017, 10:01:24 AM
https://www.twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/852138509355933697

KSUW must be feeding his alt-facts to Trump about money spent

Look, if you think The HuffPo piece I linked above is fake news, fine by me I guess.
Title: Re: 4th District
Post by: SkinnyBenny on April 12, 2017, 10:09:52 AM
I do think HuffPo is not credible news. :dunno:
Title: Re: 4th District
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on April 12, 2017, 11:23:45 AM
Media calling it a moral victory for 'crats, which is very losery and also lol for a special election with piss poor turnout.

This quote was pretty great
Quote
“I believe that after tonight, the KS Republican Party will be 32-0 in federal and statewide elections since nominating Sam Brownback for Governor,” Brownback’s former chief of staff, David Kensinger, said in an email. “Good headline, no?”

I mean sure, if you're completely tone deaf to the fact that even 'pubs hate Brownback now :dunno:

Clearly nowhere close to enough.

And although the pubs have been winning the 4th by 20+ points only losing by 10 is still nightmarishly shitty in a metropolitan area and frankly one of the most diverse metro areas in the Midwest. Wichita is so cucked it's embarrassing, LOfuckingL at any Neanderthal that thinks Wichita is in any way shape or form better than Des Moines or Omaha. Decent zoo though.

As a life long JoCo resident I have no dog in this fight, but can confirm Wichita is infintely better than Des Moines and substantially better than Omaha.

However, I don't afford any weight to whether the representative congressional district has recently voted libtard in my analysis. Mainly because that's really Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).
Title: Re: 4th District
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on April 12, 2017, 11:27:31 AM
I do think HuffPo is not credible news. :dunno:

It isn't. But there's no question Thompson put forth a much more visible and active campaign, which usually equates to more money spent.

Estes completely mailed it in and still won because nobody in Kansas (or virtually every other non-urban non-shithole resident) wants to live in a leftist police state.
Title: Re: 4th District
Post by: Kat Kid on April 12, 2017, 11:57:32 AM
Media calling it a moral victory for 'crats, which is very losery and also lol for a special election with piss poor turnout.

This quote was pretty great
Quote
“I believe that after tonight, the KS Republican Party will be 32-0 in federal and statewide elections since nominating Sam Brownback for Governor,” Brownback’s former chief of staff, David Kensinger, said in an email. “Good headline, no?”

I mean sure, if you're completely tone deaf to the fact that even 'pubs hate Brownback now :dunno:

Clearly nowhere close to enough.

And although the pubs have been winning the 4th by 20+ points only losing by 10 is still nightmarishly shitty in a metropolitan area and frankly one of the most diverse metro areas in the Midwest. Wichita is so cucked it's embarrassing, LOfuckingL at any Neanderthal that thinks Wichita is in any way shape or form better than Des Moines or Omaha. Decent zoo though.

As a life long JoCo resident I have no dog in this fight, but can confirm Wichita is infintely better than Des Moines and substantially better than Omaha.

However, I don't afford any weight to whether the representative congressional district has recently voted libtard in my analysis. Mainly because that's really Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).

Like in what ways?
Title: Re: 4th District
Post by: Gooch on April 12, 2017, 12:31:37 PM
Media calling it a moral victory for 'crats, which is very losery and also lol for a special election with piss poor turnout.

This quote was pretty great
Quote
“I believe that after tonight, the KS Republican Party will be 32-0 in federal and statewide elections since nominating Sam Brownback for Governor,” Brownback’s former chief of staff, David Kensinger, said in an email. “Good headline, no?”

I mean sure, if you're completely tone deaf to the fact that even 'pubs hate Brownback now :dunno:

Clearly nowhere close to enough.

And although the pubs have been winning the 4th by 20+ points only losing by 10 is still nightmarishly shitty in a metropolitan area and frankly one of the most diverse metro areas in the Midwest. Wichita is so cucked it's embarrassing, LOfuckingL at any Neanderthal that thinks Wichita is in any way shape or form better than Des Moines or Omaha. Decent zoo though.

As a life long JoCo resident I have no dog in this fight, but can confirm Wichita is infintely better than Des Moines and substantially better than Omaha.

However, I don't afford any weight to whether the representative congressional district has recently voted libtard in my analysis. Mainly because that's really Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).

Like in what ways?
Yeah I'll stan for Wichita harder than most but this statement is just wrong.
Title: Re: 4th District
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on April 12, 2017, 01:18:12 PM
Like, as in every aspect that would be important to an ordinary person looking for a place to live, it's better.

Des Moines is disgusting-dont even get me started on that place.  Omaha is a slightly bigger and slightly shittier wichita with one taller building on the skyline.
Title: Re: 4th District
Post by: Gooch on April 12, 2017, 01:37:37 PM
Omaha is light years ahead of Wichita. Better downtown arena, better downtown ball park, better in town commuter school, better local sport franchises, more diverse employment options. The only thing Wichita has over Omaha is the airport and that is only based on age and the new Wichita airport leaks like a sieve when it rains.
Title: Re: 4th District
Post by: SdK on April 12, 2017, 01:46:26 PM
I've got two words for you, FSD. Conor Oberst. Omaha wins.
Title: Re: 4th District
Post by: cfbandyman on April 12, 2017, 02:44:03 PM
Having hailed from the great metropolis that is Wichita, I can confirm that FSD has no rough ridin' clue what he talking about. Wichita's peak was in 1945 when it built the planes that dropped the bomb on Japan. It's been a receding blue collar wasteland since the 80s as the aircraft indistry starting to go under. I will admit the last time I was home (go home about 2-3 times a year) there has been a new vibrant, for Wichita, culture starting to take place in many areas, but it's a very dull town that wishes it was Des Moines (state capital) and more omnipresent in it's state (like Omaha) than it really is. Wichita is finally starting to getting around it can't just live off aircraft alone.

I still have that "aw, it's still home" feeling about the ICT, but I cannot tell you if you told me I had to move back there how much a step backwards that would feel. I totally get though why FSD would think Wichita is the tits, it's absolutely filled with FSDs running around bitching incessantly about anything and everything. They are the most sad sack sorry downtrodden wishing they had their voices heard lot of people you'd ever meet. WSU leaving the MVC for the AAC is literally the biggest positive news that town has had since they went to the final four, and trust me, I drove around right after WSU won to make it to the FF and the entire town save one street in Old Town was devoid of anyone looking even remotely happy.
Title: Re: 4th District
Post by: AbeFroman on April 12, 2017, 04:00:10 PM
Omaha >>>> Wichita > Des Moines
Title: Re: 4th District
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on April 12, 2017, 04:12:18 PM
Having hailed from the great metropolis that is Wichita, I can confirm that FSD has no rough ridin' clue what he talking about. Wichita's peak was in 1945 when it built the planes that dropped the bomb on Japan. It's been a receding blue collar wasteland since the 80s as the aircraft indistry starting to go under. I will admit the last time I was home (go home about 2-3 times a year) there has been a new vibrant, for Wichita, culture starting to take place in many areas, but it's a very dull town that wishes it was Des Moines (state capital) and more omnipresent in it's state (like Omaha) than it really is. Wichita is finally starting to getting around it can't just live off aircraft alone.

I still have that "aw, it's still home" feeling about the ICT, but I cannot tell you if you told me I had to move back there how much a step backwards that would feel. I totally get though why FSD would think Wichita is the tits, it's absolutely filled with FSDs running around bitching incessantly about anything and everything. They are the most sad sack sorry downtrodden wishing they had their voices heard lot of people you'd ever meet. WSU leaving the MVC for the AAC is literally the biggest positive news that town has had since they went to the final four, and trust me, I drove around right after WSU won to make it to the FF and the entire town save one street in Old Town was devoid of anyone looking even remotely happy.

Replace 1945 with 1890 and planes with trains, add bars that suck and close at 12:30am, and you have omaha.  There's also way more money in wichita than dumpy omaha.
Title: Re: 4th District
Post by: Gooch on April 12, 2017, 04:18:13 PM
Weird (college) hill for FSD to die on.
Title: Re: 4th District
Post by: cfbandyman on April 12, 2017, 05:04:22 PM
Weird (college) hill for FSD to die on.

Not weird for him, he made a position, he can't cave in now. I'd love to see why he says ICT has more money. Buffet own all, including the Kochs.

And man, don't #facts suck

http://www.deptofnumbers.com/income/nebraska/omaha/

Real Median Household Income for Omaha Nebraska

2015   1 Year Change   3 Year Change
US   $55,775   +3.83%   +5.17%
Nebraska   $54,996   +4.26%   +5.03%
Omaha   $61,024   +5.96%   +9.15%


Real Median Household Income for Wichita Kansas

2015   1 Year Change   3 Year Change
US   $55,775   +3.83%   +5.17%
Kansas   $53,906   +2.55%   +3.94%
Wichita   $51,591   -1.34%   +3.02% 

 :alleyoop:
Title: Re: 4th District
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on April 12, 2017, 07:26:16 PM
I really like Wichita but in a debate about which is better - ICT or Omaha - nobody comes out looking good.

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/5153gREKI-L.jpg)
Title: Re: 4th District
Post by: puniraptor on April 12, 2017, 07:27:39 PM
adjust for cost of living plz!
Title: Re: 4th District
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on April 12, 2017, 07:41:50 PM
Kellogg >>> Dodge

Case closed.
Title: Re: 4th District
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on April 12, 2017, 07:52:36 PM
Quote
This season’s special congressional elections are being heralded as a test of whether newly energized Democrats will fare better with an unpopular Republican president.

So far, the Democrats are passing the test.

On Tuesday, Republicans won an unexpectedly close race in Kansas’ Fourth Congressional District. The Republican Ron Estes won by seven points over James Thompson, even though President Trump won the district by 27 points in November. No Democrat holds a House seat as Republican as this one, so it’s startling that the seat was even competitive.

https://nyti.ms/2oo1EgQ

Lol
Title: Re: 4th District
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on April 12, 2017, 07:57:43 PM
Yeah, the national media doesn't realize that Estes didn't bother campaigning.
Title: Re: 4th District
Post by: cfbandyman on April 12, 2017, 10:28:51 PM
Kellogg >>> Dodge

Case closed.

The road that's never done? That's rich. It's ok, you can take your ball and go home lil boy. I'll let you come back to the grown ups table when you've learned your lesson
Title: Re: 4th District
Post by: MakeItRain on April 13, 2017, 03:11:46 AM
Omaha >>>> Wichita > Des Moines

If you've spent more than 15 minutes in either place you'd know how comically off this is. I am a proud Kansan, much prouder than most, but there are two metrics in which Wichita has any advantage at all and that's diversity and barbecue joints. If you care about sports, culture, liveability, growth, business development, cleanliness, crime, civic pride, etc. you'd be better off comparing Pratt to Des Moines than Wichita. It's actually embarrassing how far behind Des Moines Wichita is.

Oh Wichita has better winter weather and better golf courses but Des Moines has managed to get a champions tour stop and Wichita can't even manage that.
Title: Re: 4th District
Post by: MakeItRain on April 13, 2017, 03:24:36 AM
Kellogg >>> Dodge

Case closed.

The road that's never done? That's rich. It's ok, you can take your ball and go home lil boy. I'll let you come back to the grown ups table when you've learned your lesson

I'm making this post from a hotel at the intersection of Kellogg and Webb Road right now. When i had to drive a mile out of the way  do a U turn on Kellogg just to get onto webb off of the turnpike it's a real appreciation for how shitty Kellogg is. I graduated from high school almost 25 years ago, Kellogg has been under constant construction since before then. I wish this was hyperbole, unfortunately it isn't.
Title: Re: 4th District
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on April 13, 2017, 09:13:52 AM
Gonna be sweet when Kellogg highway connects all the way to K96 tho! 3 more years?
Title: Re: 4th District
Post by: cfbandyman on April 13, 2017, 09:21:53 AM
Kellogg >>> Dodge

Case closed.

The road that's never done? That's rich. It's ok, you can take your ball and go home lil boy. I'll let you come back to the grown ups table when you've learned your lesson

I'm making this post from a hotel at the intersection of Kellogg and Webb Road right now. When i had to drive a mile out of the way  do a U turn on Kellogg just to get onto webb off of the turnpike it's a real appreciation for how shitty Kellogg is. I graduated from high school almost 25 years ago, Kellogg has been under constant construction since before then. I wish this was hyperbole, unfortunately it isn't.

I get it, showing my younger age, but I remember being a lil guy (4 or 5) them putting in the downtown overpass sections in (they looked kind of like big V's to lil me), and yeah, they just now have gotten roughly Beech. Several miles, tearing down the Church my parents got married in (Magdalen), eminent domaining a friend of family's house in College Hill, and totally agree, 25 years later, they are maybe 3 years from getting to K96.
Title: Re: 4th District
Post by: SkinnyBenny on April 13, 2017, 10:08:59 AM
Having hailed from the great metropolis that is Wichita, I can confirm that FSD has no rough ridin' clue what he talking about. Wichita's peak was in 1945 when it built the planes that dropped the bomb on Japan. It's been a receding blue collar wasteland since the 80s as the aircraft indistry starting to go under. I will admit the last time I was home (go home about 2-3 times a year) there has been a new vibrant, for Wichita, culture starting to take place in many areas, but it's a very dull town that wishes it was Des Moines (state capital) and more omnipresent in it's state (like Omaha) than it really is. Wichita is finally starting to getting around it can't just live off aircraft alone.

I still have that "aw, it's still home" feeling about the ICT, but I cannot tell you if you told me I had to move back there how much a step backwards that would feel. I totally get though why FSD would think Wichita is the tits, it's absolutely filled with FSDs running around bitching incessantly about anything and everything. They are the most sad sack sorry downtrodden wishing they had their voices heard lot of people you'd ever meet. WSU leaving the MVC for the AAC is literally the biggest positive news that town has had since they went to the final four, and trust me, I drove around right after WSU won to make it to the FF and the entire town save one street in Old Town was devoid of anyone looking even remotely happy.


:lol: can we get a body bag over here for FSD?
Title: Re: 4th District
Post by: SdK on April 13, 2017, 10:15:07 AM
https://youtu.be/hdLxVBTEHgI (https://youtu.be/hdLxVBTEHgI)



 

Well, traffic is kind of bad
They’re widening Easy Street to fit more SUVs
They’re planting baby trees to grow to shady peaks
A little shelter from the sun and the upper tax bracket
Here on the cul-de-sac we are not giving back
Until the community repents
Because we can’t afford to be generous
There are closing costs and a narrow margin
So go earn your degree and we’ll take you out to lunch
You can work for us but you have eat them all up
One more mouthful and we will be happy then

Out West they are moving dirt
To make a greater Omaha
Another franchise sold
So there are even more restaurants per capita
And they all have got a drive-thru
I mean, who’s got time to dine?
Although the floors are clean and the color scheme
It compliments me every time
So no one starves in this cattle town
The semi's pass making squealing sounds
And it's all-u-can-eat and they will never get enough
They’ll be feeding us, they’ll be feeding on us
One more mouthful and they will be happy then

All those golden fields, lovely empty space
They’re building drug stores now until none remains
I have been driving for 100 blocks
Saw 50 Kum and Go’s, 60 parking lots
One more mouthful and I’m sure they will be happy then
Just one more, just one more
Title: Re: 4th District
Post by: SdK on April 13, 2017, 10:15:20 AM
That's all I know about Omaha

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Title: Re: 4th District
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on April 13, 2017, 10:15:43 AM
Des Moines has that cool walkway thing downtown to help with the cold weather issue.
Title: Re: 4th District
Post by: Institutional Control on April 13, 2017, 10:25:58 AM
I've never been to Des Moines but I have to imagine it's nicer than Wichita.  Wichita sucks. I can say that because I was born there.
Title: Re: 4th District
Post by: Gooch on April 13, 2017, 11:52:22 AM
Gonna be sweet when Kellogg highway connects all the way to K96 tho! 3 5 more years?
3 Would be delightful.
Title: Re: 4th District
Post by: Phil Titola on April 13, 2017, 03:08:38 PM
Stopped in DSM on way to Minneapolis....Much better than I remember....Even had a downtown Hy-Vee!
Title: Re: 4th District
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on April 13, 2017, 07:56:04 PM
Wichita is better than Omaha and way better than rough ridin' Des Moines, I've been to all of them and it's not debatable. I'm sorry you idiots had to move to those I-80 roadside motel shitholes.
Title: Re: 4th District
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on April 13, 2017, 07:59:40 PM
And obviously Wichita has better golf and food. It also isn't in Iowa, which somehow has worse roads than Missouri, or Nebraska, which is just a shitload of fat white people.

My experience is that the worst thing about Wichita is the wind.
Title: Re: 4th District
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on April 13, 2017, 08:02:36 PM
Old Town >>>>>>> DT Omaha >>>>>> West Des Moines shopping mall (e.g. ruby Tuesday).

NE Wichita >>>>>> W Dodge >>>>>> West Des Moines brown levitt homes
Title: Re: 4th District
Post by: Phil Titola on April 13, 2017, 08:02:43 PM
And obviously Wichita has better golf and food. It also isn't in Iowa, which somehow has worse roads than Missouri, or Nebraska, which is just a shitload of fat white people.

My experience is that the worst thing about Wichita is the wind.

FSD parody post?
Title: Re: 4th District
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on April 13, 2017, 08:07:57 PM
Omaha >>>> Wichita > Des Moines

If you've spent more than 15 minutes in either place you'd know how comically off this is. I am a proud Kansan, much prouder than most, but there are two metrics in which Wichita has any advantage at all and that's diversity and barbecue joints. If you care about sports, culture, liveability, growth, business development, cleanliness, crime, civic pride, etc. you'd be better off comparing Pratt to Des Moines than Wichita. It's actually embarrassing how far behind Des Moines Wichita is.

Oh Wichita has better winter weather and better golf courses but Des Moines has managed to get a champions tour stop and Wichita can't even manage that.

Web.com >>>>>> champions tour

Point wichita
Title: Re: 4th District
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on April 13, 2017, 08:16:12 PM
I would concede that Des Moines is slightly better than Pratt, but only because Des Moines has yhe drake relays.
Title: Re: 4th District
Post by: MakeItRain on April 13, 2017, 08:17:59 PM
Oh fsd :lol:

Also one of these posts made it very obvious you're never been to Omaha or DSM.
Title: Re: 4th District
Post by: The Big Train on April 13, 2017, 08:21:49 PM
Get out of the small towns FSD and experience traveling and life!
Title: Re: 4th District
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on April 13, 2017, 08:27:45 PM
I've pretty much been everywhere. Just ask me a city and I'll tell you whether it sucks or not
Title: Re: 4th District
Post by: SdK on April 13, 2017, 10:15:04 PM
Get out of the small towns FSD and experience traveling and life!
Ok, Wacky. :D
Title: Re: 4th District
Post by: SkinnyBenny on April 13, 2017, 11:06:11 PM
Fsd you might wanna just take your lap, bud
Title: Re: 4th District
Post by: michigancat on April 13, 2017, 11:16:16 PM
I've pretty much been everywhere. Just ask me a city and I'll tell you whether it sucks or not
This would be a great thread. I support its creation.
Title: Re: 4th District
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on April 19, 2017, 09:30:28 AM
Georgia. More mixed results. Evidence of a liberal backlash, or not? http://www.politico.com/story/2017/04/democrats-georgia-ossoff-237348 (http://www.politico.com/story/2017/04/democrats-georgia-ossoff-237348)
Title: Re: 4th District
Post by: Skipper44 on April 19, 2017, 04:15:44 PM
I've pretty much been everywhere. Just ask me a city and I'll tell you whether it sucks or not
This would be a great thread. I support its creation.
yes, that will make this thread his home loss to ISU on the way to the E8
Title: Re: 4th District
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on April 19, 2017, 07:59:48 PM
Georgia. More mixed results. Evidence of a liberal backlash, or not? http://www.politico.com/story/2017/04/democrats-georgia-ossoff-237348 (http://www.politico.com/story/2017/04/democrats-georgia-ossoff-237348)

This was probably their only real chance to "steal" a seat under the nevertrump pretense, and they failed miserably. Another lol @the libtards.

But, MORAL VICTORY!
Title: Re: 4th District
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on June 20, 2017, 09:00:16 PM
Bump. Another one slips away. Georgia's boy wonder loses to a female Ron Estes. After wasting over $25 million of outside donor money.
Title: Re: 4th District
Post by: The Big Train on June 20, 2017, 09:08:23 PM
Bump. Another one slips away. Georgia's boy wonder loses to a female Ron Estes. After wasting over $25 million of outside donor money.

Why am I not surprised this is being used as an insult.  Trump supporters smdh
Title: Re: 4th District
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on June 20, 2017, 09:20:19 PM
Bump. Another one slips away. Georgia's boy wonder loses to a female Ron Estes. After wasting over $25 million of outside donor money.

Why am I not surprised this is being used as an insult.  Trump supporters smdh

You, sir, are a dumbass. Karen Handel is, in fact, a female. That's not the insult. The insult is she's a female version of Ron Estes - meaning an incredibly inept and boring politician. And the Dems' superboy lost to her. Maybe because he was an empty suit and the depth of his campaign was "vote for me to make Trump mad."
Title: Re: 4th District
Post by: Panjandrum on June 20, 2017, 09:20:59 PM
I saw Ron Estes at KCI today.  His Southwest flight was canceled like the rest of us.  Stood in line with what looked like an assistant for about an hour.

He's a thoroughly unimpressive guy.  Extremely quiet.  Pedestrian luggage.  Carried an actual briefcase.
Title: Re: 4th District
Post by: The Big Train on June 20, 2017, 09:23:16 PM
Bump. Another one slips away. Georgia's boy wonder loses to a female Ron Estes. After wasting over $25 million of outside donor money.

Why am I not surprised this is being used as an insult.  Trump supporters smdh

You, sir, are a dumbass. Karen Handel is, in fact, a female. That's not the insult. She's a female version of Ron Estes - meaning an incredibly inept and boring politician. And the Dems' superboy lost to her. Maybe because he was an empty suit and the depth of his campaign was "vote for me to make Trump mad."

I'm sure you would have said a male <insert female politician> if there was a comparison, right?
Title: Re: 4th District
Post by: star seed 7 on June 20, 2017, 09:50:18 PM
gop-gop-gop-sec-errr... - gop-gop
Title: Re: 4th District
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on June 20, 2017, 09:51:01 PM
Bump. Another one slips away. Georgia's boy wonder loses to a female Ron Estes. After wasting over $25 million of outside donor money.

Why am I not surprised this is being used as an insult.  Trump supporters smdh

You, sir, are a dumbass. Karen Handel is, in fact, a female. That's not the insult. She's a female version of Ron Estes - meaning an incredibly inept and boring politician. And the Dems' superboy lost to her. Maybe because he was an empty suit and the depth of his campaign was "vote for me to make Trump mad."

I'm sure you would have said a male <insert female politician> if there was a comparison, right?

Uh, yes. What part of this aren't you getting? She's a female. Ron's a male. She's a female Ron Estes. :dunno:
Title: Re: 4th District
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 20, 2017, 10:43:28 PM
 :lol:
Title: Re: 4th District
Post by: wetwillie on June 20, 2017, 11:06:55 PM
This would have fit well into that popular Chappelle sketch 'when keepin it real goes wrong'
Title: Re: 4th District
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on June 21, 2017, 10:23:55 AM
:ROFL:

https://mobile.twitter.com/BecketAdams/status/877375505703596032
Title: Re: 4th District
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 21, 2017, 10:28:55 AM
 :love:
Title: Re: 4th District
Post by: star seed 7 on June 21, 2017, 10:54:10 AM
What a bunch of dorks
Title: Re: 4th District
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on June 21, 2017, 11:27:54 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DC0QH9SWsAEo3XB.jpg)
Title: Re: 4th District
Post by: SdK on June 21, 2017, 11:33:25 AM
They should stop getting their hopes up.