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Title: white horse thread
Post by: sys on October 13, 2016, 09:46:20 PM
please post any news you come across about mcmullin winning utah here.


http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/how-evan-mcmullin-could-win-utah-and-the-presidency/
Title: Re: white horese thread
Post by: catastrophe on October 13, 2016, 09:52:01 PM
DNR, but Gary is hoping to do the same thing with New Mexico.
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 14, 2016, 01:24:07 PM
http://www.redstate.com/aglanon/2016/10/13/evan-mcmullin-president/
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: renocat on October 15, 2016, 02:59:51 PM
http://www.redstate.com/aglanon/2016/10/13/evan-mcmullin-president/
Sys, thanks for the information.  I am writing him in.  Does anyone know if he is registered yet with KS. Secretary of State as a recognized write in candidate?
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: puniraptor on October 17, 2016, 06:51:37 PM
I WANT HIM
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: tdaver on October 17, 2016, 11:55:23 PM
http://www.sltrib.com/news/4476877-155/presidential-update-new-poll-cements-utah

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A new poll — this one released Monday from Rasmussen Reports — shows a statistical tie between Republican Donald Trump (30 percent), independent Evan McMullin (29 percent) and Democrat Hillary Clinton (28 percent)

Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: bones129 on October 18, 2016, 12:00:36 AM
http://www.sltrib.com/news/4476877-155/presidential-update-new-poll-cements-utah

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A new poll — this one released Monday from Rasmussen Reports — shows a statistical tie between Republican Donald Trump (30 percent), independent Evan McMullin (29 percent) and Democrat Hillary Clinton (28 percent)

This is the only, only poll to report such a result. No others are even close to this.
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: sys on October 18, 2016, 12:29:16 AM
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A new poll — this one released Monday from Rasmussen Reports — shows a statistical tie between Republican Donald Trump (30 percent), independent Evan McMullin (29 percent) and Democrat Hillary Clinton (28 percent)

 :excited:
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: puniraptor on October 18, 2016, 04:41:52 AM
http://www.sltrib.com/news/4476877-155/presidential-update-new-poll-cements-utah

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A new poll — this one released Monday from Rasmussen Reports — shows a statistical tie between Republican Donald Trump (30 percent), independent Evan McMullin (29 percent) and Democrat Hillary Clinton (28 percent)

This is the only, only poll to report such a result. No others are even close to this.
I listened to him on the radio today. He said those other polls don't even have him as a choice so he was polling 20% as a write in which is pretty remarkable
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: puniraptor on October 18, 2016, 04:42:38 AM
EVAN EVAN EVAN EVAN he's my beautiful stallion
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: puniraptor on October 18, 2016, 04:43:44 AM
I'll be using my throwaway vote to write him in (unless he somehow gets on our ballot)
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 18, 2016, 08:12:06 AM
You can't write him in in Kansas. I mean, you can write whatever you want on the ballot, but it won't count.
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 18, 2016, 08:16:17 AM
Tuesday is going to be a really long, scary night if McMullin wins this thing.
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: _33 on October 18, 2016, 08:18:40 AM
You can't write him in in Kansas. I mean, you can write whatever you want on the ballot, but it won't count.

Not according to this unless I'm reading it wrong:  https://www.evanmcmullin.com/how_to_vote_for_evan
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: star seed 7 on October 18, 2016, 08:20:11 AM
I would never vote for him
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 18, 2016, 08:27:17 AM
You can't write him in in Kansas. I mean, you can write whatever you want on the ballot, but it won't count.

Not according to this unless I'm reading it wrong:  https://www.evanmcmullin.com/how_to_vote_for_evan

I read something last week that didn't list Kansas. I guess you can write him in.
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: _33 on October 18, 2016, 08:29:30 AM
I would never vote for him

I don't know if I will either, I don't even know who he is.  Need to do some research.  But I was on the verge deciding to just write in something funny like Leslie Knope or Neil DeGrasse Tyson.
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 18, 2016, 08:30:39 AM
To win, Evan needs to win Utah, but then he needs Trump to do well enough to just about tie Clinton, but not so well that he actually beats her. So if you are in a red state or a tossup state, Evan's best chance would be you actually voting for Trump.
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: star seed 7 on October 18, 2016, 08:32:44 AM
I have a great write in candidate that I will reveal on election day
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on October 18, 2016, 08:38:05 AM
Will the president of Utah be above or below the governor?
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: tdaver on October 18, 2016, 08:47:41 AM
Will the president of Utah be above or below the governor?

Doesn't matter.  They are both below the prophet.
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: renocat on October 18, 2016, 09:05:21 AM
Will the president of Utah be above or below the governor?
How many immigrants can they handle?
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: sys on October 18, 2016, 10:59:14 AM
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McMullin, who has received between 20 and 29 percent of the vote in Utah in four recent polls, is close to the threshold I described above. That puts him on something of a precipice: He’s likely to either gain support or lose it instead of staying where he is right now...

Typically in mid-October, if you saw an independent polling at 20-something percent, you’d assume he was on his way down after once having been more competitive. McMullin, however, has the potential to benefit from a feedback loop as more people hear about his candidacy and consider him to be a viable option...

I wouldn’t be surprised to see McMullin gain further ground in the next round of polling.

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/heres-how-were-forecasting-the-4-way-presidential-race-in-utah/
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: Emo EMAW on October 18, 2016, 11:24:49 AM
I love feedback loops.
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: _33 on October 18, 2016, 11:30:42 AM
Has a 3rd party candidate ever won a state in the modern era?  BTW I have no idea what constitutes the modern era but I'm sure it's a thing.
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on October 18, 2016, 11:44:10 AM
Has a 3rd party candidate ever won a state in the modern era?  BTW I have no idea what constitutes the modern era but I'm sure it's a thing.

Teddy Roosevelt of the Progressive party won 8 states in 1912. Is that modern enough?
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: _33 on October 18, 2016, 11:48:00 AM
Has a 3rd party candidate ever won a state in the modern era?  BTW I have no idea what constitutes the modern era but I'm sure it's a thing.

Teddy Roosevelt of the Progressive party won 8 states in 1912. Is that modern enough?

I don't think so.  I mean the Panama Canal hadn't even opened yet for goodness sake.
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on October 18, 2016, 11:51:23 AM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_third_party_performances_in_United_States_presidential_elections

George Wallace of the American Independent party won 46 electoral votes (carried 5 states) in 1968. That was the last time a 3rd party won any electoral votes.
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: star seed 7 on October 18, 2016, 11:53:49 AM
That one racist guy won a bunch of the South in the 50's or 60's
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: tdaver on October 18, 2016, 11:54:37 AM
McMullin's got a real shot at winning this.  The rural areas will still probably go overwhelmingly for Trump, but the suburban Morridor where most of the population is will continue to move away from Trump to McMullin following the lead of their party/church leaders who are making that move.
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on October 18, 2016, 12:10:43 PM
That one racist guy won a bunch of the South in the 50's or 60's

Thanks lukelukelukelukelukelukeluke
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: _33 on October 18, 2016, 12:20:25 PM
McMullin's got a real shot at winning this.  The rural areas will still probably go overwhelmingly for Trump, but the suburban Morridor where most of the population is will continue to move away from Trump to McMullin following the lead of their party/church leaders who are making that move.

He has no shot at winning, but it might be a better write-in vote for me than Master Splinter or Frank Martin.  (<-----Who I actually think would make a really good president)
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on October 18, 2016, 12:28:12 PM
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You may be wondering why we are asking you to write in “Nathan Johnson” and not Mindy Finn, Evan’s running mate for Vice President. As you know, the campaign was required to file paperwork in order to qualify as a write-in. At the time, a formal Vice Presidential pick had not yet been made. However, Evan’s trusted friend Nathan Johnson offered to step up and fill the Vice Presidential slot in order to meet the legal requirements of write-in filings. Therefore, when casting a write-in vote, the vote should be cast for “Evan McMullin” and “Nathan Johnson.”

In the event that the election is pushed to the House of Representatives, Nathan Johnson would then resign as the Vice Presidential nominee to be replaced by Mindy Finn.

 :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: Tobias on October 18, 2016, 12:29:30 PM
Morridor

:love:
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on October 18, 2016, 12:36:34 PM
McMullin seems like a better option than Johnson for my co-worker. I need a 1 page summary to print out for him.
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: tdaver on October 18, 2016, 12:45:13 PM
McMullin's got a real shot at winning this.  The rural areas will still probably go overwhelmingly for Trump, but the suburban Morridor where most of the population is will continue to move away from Trump to McMullin following the lead of their party/church leaders who are making that move.

He has no shot at winning, but it might be a better write-in vote for me than Master Splinter or Frank Martin.  (<-----Who I actually think would make a really good president)

Was talking about Utah only.
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: Emo EMAW on October 18, 2016, 01:51:56 PM
McMullin's got a real shot at winning this.  The rural areas will still probably go overwhelmingly for Trump, but the suburban Morridor where most of the population is will continue to move away from Trump to McMullin following the lead of their party/church leaders who are making that move.

I would think the rural (more momo areas) would go heavy McMullin, but could see them being slower to move just because =no internets!!=.
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 18, 2016, 01:53:47 PM
McMullin's got a real shot at winning this.  The rural areas will still probably go overwhelmingly for Trump, but the suburban Morridor where most of the population is will continue to move away from Trump to McMullin following the lead of their party/church leaders who are making that move.

I would think the rural (more momo areas) would go heavy McMullin, but could see them being slower to move just because =no internets!!=.

Poor people love Trump, and rural people tend to be mostly poor.
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: Emo EMAW on October 18, 2016, 02:14:00 PM
McMullin's got a real shot at winning this.  The rural areas will still probably go overwhelmingly for Trump, but the suburban Morridor where most of the population is will continue to move away from Trump to McMullin following the lead of their party/church leaders who are making that move.

I would think the rural (more momo areas) would go heavy McMullin, but could see them being slower to move just because =no internets!!=.

Poor people love Trump, and rural people tend to be mostly poor.

Democrats are so poor they're Democrats tho.  :dunno:
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: tdaver on October 18, 2016, 02:18:28 PM
McMullin's got a real shot at winning this.  The rural areas will still probably go overwhelmingly for Trump, but the suburban Morridor where most of the population is will continue to move away from Trump to McMullin following the lead of their party/church leaders who are making that move.

I would think the rural (more momo areas) would go heavy McMullin, but could see them being slower to move just because =no internets!!=.

Could be, but there are a lot of Cliven Bundy supporters out there and I'd guess they vote Trump.
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: CHONGS on October 18, 2016, 02:33:12 PM
I really thought this was going to be about some great new type of heroin. 
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 18, 2016, 02:59:37 PM
McMullin's got a real shot at winning this.  The rural areas will still probably go overwhelmingly for Trump, but the suburban Morridor where most of the population is will continue to move away from Trump to McMullin following the lead of their party/church leaders who are making that move.

I would think the rural (more momo areas) would go heavy McMullin, but could see them being slower to move just because =no internets!!=.

Poor people love Trump, and rural people tend to be mostly poor.

Democrats are so poor they're Democrats tho.  :dunno:

I think poor white people tend to vote republican. They definitely vote Trump. Not sure if they've always voted republican.
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on October 18, 2016, 03:39:46 PM
McMullin's got a real shot at winning this.  The rural areas will still probably go overwhelmingly for Trump, but the suburban Morridor where most of the population is will continue to move away from Trump to McMullin following the lead of their party/church leaders who are making that move.

I would think the rural (more momo areas) would go heavy McMullin, but could see them being slower to move just because =no internets!!=.

Poor people love Trump, and rural people tend to be mostly poor.

Democrats are so poor they're Democrats tho.  :dunno:

Two totally different demographics. Poor republicans want more better paying jobs, while poor democrats want more better paying government programs.
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: mocat on October 18, 2016, 03:44:52 PM
dnr the last several idk how many posts because omg Morridor is the best word oat
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: sys on October 19, 2016, 03:33:57 PM
http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/trackers/2016-10-19/independent-mcmullin-narrowly-leads-trump-in-utah-emerson-poll


 :excited:
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: star seed 7 on October 19, 2016, 03:56:58 PM
I just came here to give the good news sys
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: sys on October 19, 2016, 04:52:40 PM
he's going to get this thing done, liblib.  it's the greatest political underdog story any of us will ever witness.
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: tdaver on October 20, 2016, 09:50:06 AM
Not sure if this was made by an ex-mo for laughs or to sabotage McMullin or by a crazy-mo that really believes the white horse stuff.

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi64.tinypic.com%2Fildh7k.png&hash=933445698ab9a77342297b6ad5506506685aa7ba)

Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: Emo EMAW on October 20, 2016, 09:55:54 AM
So, is @sys now urging everyone to vote Trump (unless you live in UT)?  :sdeek:
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 20, 2016, 10:34:27 AM
So, is @sys now urging everyone to vote Trump (unless you live in UT)?  :sdeek:

Still need people in blue states to vote Hillary.
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: star seed 7 on October 20, 2016, 10:36:16 AM
I just want him to win Utah, everyone else can get mumped
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: Emo EMAW on October 20, 2016, 10:44:50 AM
So, is @sys now urging everyone to vote Trump (unless you live in UT)?  :sdeek:

Still need people in blue states to vote Hillary.

We need a master list of who to vote for by state. 
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: _33 on October 20, 2016, 10:51:28 AM
Who should I vote for in Missouri?  I'll vote for anyone except Donald, Hillary, Gary or Jill.
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 20, 2016, 10:56:43 AM
Who should I vote for in Missouri?  I'll vote for anyone except Donald, Hillary, Gary or Jill.

Donald has to win Missouri for McMullin to have any sort of chance.
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: _33 on October 20, 2016, 11:22:25 AM
Who should I vote for in Missouri?  I'll vote for anyone except Donald, Hillary, Gary or Jill.

Donald has to win Missouri for McMullin to have any sort of chance.

OK, well, sorry Evan.  Can't do it. 
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: mocat on October 20, 2016, 12:06:02 PM
donald will win missouri anyway 33, go nuts
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: star seed 7 on October 20, 2016, 12:38:40 PM
Missouri is a perfect trump state. Lots of disgusting dumbs live there
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: Emo EMAW on October 20, 2016, 12:52:03 PM
Missouri = Arkansas plus a streetcar
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: CNS on October 20, 2016, 01:04:41 PM
I think some of you MO voters are forgetting that Missouri is the Morman's homeland. 

I bet you guys one spirally tower thingy that if there was a second state that church was going to White Horse, it would be MO.
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: mocat on October 20, 2016, 01:09:27 PM
missouri is not part of the Morridor. but it is home to the Tower of Misengard

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fblog.mrm.org%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2012%2F04%2FCoC-Temple.jpg&hash=55e26c2eb2f6e79c44001e4aba5b0f9b4075486f)
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: star seed 7 on October 20, 2016, 01:10:35 PM
It really is a sweet ass building
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on October 20, 2016, 01:11:39 PM
That building looks like it was from the Wizard of Oz.
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: CNS on October 20, 2016, 01:12:05 PM
Holy ground, tho
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: Emo EMAW on October 20, 2016, 01:16:49 PM
Chinese steel in that thing no doubt.
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: CNS on October 20, 2016, 01:20:30 PM
I haven't been a GC for a while now, but as of like 10 yrs ago, you couldn't build structural with Chinese steel.  Was kinda headscratchy when that was brought up last night. Must have changed since.
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: Emo EMAW on October 20, 2016, 01:22:19 PM
Seems like regulation, man.  :curse:
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: CNS on October 20, 2016, 01:23:43 PM
Lack of, these days, apparently.
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: star seed 7 on October 20, 2016, 01:33:25 PM
Chinese steel is not common. Only one project I know of has used it, and that was because that particular odd size was literally only made in China once every 6 months

Government projects require American, I'm not sure what the rules are on private projects.
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: CNS on October 20, 2016, 01:36:59 PM
It used to be that certain calcs were based on certain steel standards (A34 for example) and the stuff china was using as those certain standards were thought to be compromised and less than those standards.  So if you engineered a building to a certain steel standard, you couldn't use that equivalent from China because of their shitty steel not being equivalent. 

mocat probably has better details on this.
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: sys on October 20, 2016, 02:06:40 PM
So, is @sys now urging everyone to vote Trump (unless you live in UT)?  :sdeek:

no, i am not urging that.
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: sys on October 20, 2016, 02:07:36 PM
mocat probably has better details on this.

mocat is a construction dude too?

 :runaway:
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: mocat on October 20, 2016, 02:08:49 PM
mocat probably has better details on this.

mocat is a construction dude too?

 :runaway:

nope, engineer
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: Emo EMAW on October 20, 2016, 02:15:26 PM
"engineer"
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: mocat on October 20, 2016, 02:20:10 PM
the structural drawings will indicate the ASTM specifications required for the steel being used on the project. this is all very standardized in the US, as most shapes are A36 (36 ksi), HSS shapes are A500 (46 ksi), and wide flanges are A992 (50 ksi). it's up to the steel supplier to provide steel that meets the specifications, wherever they get it from
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: mocat on October 20, 2016, 02:21:47 PM
"engineer"

not sure what this means
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: Emo EMAW on October 20, 2016, 02:26:14 PM
It was a derisive way of showing my contempt for "engineers" from other disciplines.
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: tdaver on October 20, 2016, 02:54:52 PM
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi66.tinypic.com%2F2napjpd.png&hash=3d15321b8d1a3d31fcb00c81fb87f3ffed17e449)
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: sys on October 20, 2016, 03:04:07 PM
oh my god.  so beautiful.
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: sys on October 20, 2016, 03:09:18 PM
i've stolen your glorious art, obviously.
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: tdaver on October 20, 2016, 03:10:12 PM
Not my work.  Steal away.
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: MakeItRain on October 20, 2016, 08:14:33 PM
sys, your support of this guy is confusing to me. I am don't understand as to how anyone but a registered republican would support his candidacy. His platform is conservative red meat, not even moderate.
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: steve dave on October 20, 2016, 08:25:31 PM
sys, your support of this guy is confusing to me. I am don't understand as to how anyone but a registered republican would support his candidacy. His platform is conservative red meat, not even moderate.

I mean, it's a long story
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: MakeItRain on October 20, 2016, 08:58:26 PM
sys, your support of this guy is confusing to me. I am don't understand as to how anyone but a registered republican would support his candidacy. His platform is conservative red meat, not even moderate.

I mean, it's a long story

I missed something, didn't I? Oh well.
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: steve dave on October 20, 2016, 09:00:04 PM
sys, your support of this guy is confusing to me. I am don't understand as to how anyone but a registered republican would support his candidacy. His platform is conservative red meat, not even moderate.

I mean, it's a long story

I missed something, didn't I? Oh well.

not really, just understanding what makes my best bud sys tick
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: puniraptor on October 20, 2016, 09:19:08 PM
there are only 4 living beings on this planet with a path to becoming president assuming nobody is killed or dies

of those 4 people evan mcmullin is my #1 choice by far.

felix's Egypt thread has given me all the data I need to know that we need a Mormon cia operative in the white house.
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: sys on October 20, 2016, 09:52:12 PM
sys, your support of this guy is confusing to me. I am don't understand as to how anyone but a registered republican would support his candidacy. His platform is conservative red meat, not even moderate.

i don't support him and won't be voting for him.  i want him to win utah, because i like underdogs and quirky stories, because it makes me happy to see a group of republicans willing to reject trump, and because i lived in utah for a while and would enjoy seeing utahns reassert their cultural and political distinctiveness.
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: steve dave on October 20, 2016, 09:53:22 PM
SEE MIR!
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: MakeItRain on October 21, 2016, 12:49:33 AM
sys, your support of this guy is confusing to me. I am don't understand as to how anyone but a registered republican would support his candidacy. His platform is conservative red meat, not even moderate.

i don't support him and won't be voting for him.  i want him to win utah, because i like underdogs and quirky stories, because it makes me happy to see a group of republicans willing to reject trump, and because i lived in utah for a while and would enjoy seeing utahns reassert their cultural and political distinctiveness.

 :thumbs:
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on October 21, 2016, 08:17:44 AM
there are only 4 living beings on this planet with a path to becoming president assuming nobody is killed or dies

of those 4 people evan mcmullin is my #1 choice by far.

felix's Egypt thread has given me all the data I need to know that we need a Mormon cia operative in the white house.

Evan McMullin is in the top 4? So you think he has more of a chance than Jill Stein even though he isn't even on the ballot in most states and even though he didn't even have a running mate in time for the write-in deadline so you actually have to write-in some other guy for VP instead of his actual running mate?
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: puniraptor on October 21, 2016, 08:23:58 AM
DID ANYONE READ THE SUBJECT ARTICLE?!
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: puniraptor on October 21, 2016, 08:24:33 AM
Jill Stein has no path to victory. Neither does Gary.
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on October 21, 2016, 08:27:10 AM
Jill Stein has no path to victory. Neither does Gary.

Who are the 4 then?
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: puniraptor on October 21, 2016, 08:28:40 AM
Hill
Trump
Evan
Biden???
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: ChiComCat on October 21, 2016, 08:31:33 AM
I've seen some site say that Bernie could win vermont, nobody gets 270, and the house decides it for him.  I wouldn't call it a likely result but Bernie as the 4th?
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: Institutional Control on October 21, 2016, 08:31:48 AM
Jill Stein is more whackadoodle then Gary Johnson.
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: puniraptor on October 21, 2016, 08:32:18 AM
Hill
Trump
Evan
Biden???
Not biden, Kaine or pence??? That's confusing.
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on October 21, 2016, 08:32:55 AM
Hill
Trump
Evan
Biden???

How about if the House can't decide so then the Senate has to vote for VP and the VP becomes (acting) President because the House still can't break the tie....Then Kaine could be President.
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: puniraptor on October 21, 2016, 08:34:51 AM
Oh my 4th was if the house can't choose by inauguration day the Senate apparently chooses from the top two veep candidates? Seems dumb. I guess that's 5 people with a path to victory.
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: puniraptor on October 21, 2016, 08:35:44 AM
Yeah I initially read it as the current veep just becomes pres
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on October 21, 2016, 08:36:30 AM
Oh my 4th was if the house can't choose by inauguration day the Senate apparently chooses from the top two veep candidates? Seems dumb. I guess that's 5 people with a path to victory.

Oh they only get to choose from the two highest VP candidates. I was really hoping there was a path for Nathan Johnson.
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: puniraptor on October 21, 2016, 08:36:54 AM
And apparently it's the incoming house and not the lame duck house. Sorry Huelskamp.
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: Emo EMAW on October 21, 2016, 09:37:45 AM
Where's this Evan feller on the whole public lands transfer thing?  He's Utah so I would guess he's about as awful as possible.  I'd rather have Trump.
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: MakeItRain on October 21, 2016, 02:24:42 PM
Hillary could shoot someone in the middle of times square and still easily get to 270.
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: CNS on October 21, 2016, 03:08:42 PM
If that someone was Don, she could easily get 350.
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: wetwillie on October 21, 2016, 08:00:21 PM
And apparently it's the incoming house and not the lame duck house. Sorry Huelskamp.

Get his ass @KatKid!
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: renocat on October 22, 2016, 08:06:11 AM
If McMullen plan to kick this into the House comes to fruition, ol Donald will crap himself over trashing Ryan.
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: renocat on October 23, 2016, 03:54:48 PM
My brother lives in Salt Lake.  He said McMullen is leading all polls.
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: puniraptor on October 23, 2016, 09:41:19 PM
gary is within sight of winning New Mexico

this could be the break President Mcmullin nees to keep hill from 270 ???
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: star seed 7 on October 23, 2016, 09:45:57 PM
How do we get busses from Japan to new mexico
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: MakeItRain on October 24, 2016, 01:12:24 PM
gary is within sight of winning New Mexico

this could be the break President Mcmullin nees to keep hill from 270 ???

Why are you doing this to yourself?
Quote
But, Silver cautioned, while it's possible, such a result is "not likely" because the FiveThirtyEight model gives Johnson only a 2 to 3 percent chance of winning New Mexico, and about a 0.2 percent change that causes a deadlock.
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: renocat on October 24, 2016, 01:46:10 PM
I just spoke to the Kansas Secretary of State's office and ask if Evan McMullin was a recognized write-in candidate in Kansas. I was told yes he is. So if you write in his name for president your vote will count. Spread this news to others if you don't like Hillary or Trump.
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: puniraptor on October 24, 2016, 03:28:45 PM
gary is within sight of winning New Mexico

this could be the break President Mcmullin nees to keep hill from 270 ???

Why are you doing this to yourself?
Quote
But, Silver cautioned, while it's possible, such a result is "not likely" because the FiveThirtyEight model gives Johnson only a 2 to 3 percent chance of winning New Mexico, and about a 0.2 percent change that causes a deadlock.
For fun. It is fun.
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: steve dave on October 24, 2016, 03:30:25 PM
I just spoke to the Kansas Secretary of State's office and ask if Evan McMullin was a recognized write-in candidate in Kansas. I was told yes he is. So if you write in his name for president your vote will count. Spread this news to others if you don't like Hillary or Trump.

nice work reno
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: star seed 7 on October 24, 2016, 03:33:19 PM
Better send out some mail in yoder
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: Emo EMAW on October 24, 2016, 04:27:05 PM
Question:  racist thread title?
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: MakeItRain on October 24, 2016, 06:19:53 PM
gary is within sight of winning New Mexico

this could be the break President Mcmullin nees to keep hill from 270 ???

Why are you doing this to yourself?
Quote
But, Silver cautioned, while it's possible, such a result is "not likely" because the FiveThirtyEight model gives Johnson only a 2 to 3 percent chance of winning New Mexico, and about a 0.2 percent change that causes a deadlock.
For fun. It is fun.

Really?
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: puniraptor on October 24, 2016, 07:09:16 PM
gary is within sight of winning New Mexico

this could be the break President Mcmullin nees to keep hill from 270 ???

Why are you doing this to yourself?
Quote
But, Silver cautioned, while it's possible, such a result is "not likely" because the FiveThirtyEight model gives Johnson only a 2 to 3 percent chance of winning New Mexico, and about a 0.2 percent change that causes a deadlock.
For fun. It is fun.

Really?

well, until you got here :blindfold:
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: star seed 7 on October 24, 2016, 07:10:21 PM
you have to remember that being super serious is fun for mir
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: puniraptor on October 24, 2016, 07:11:31 PM
UPDATE:
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcdn0.dailydot.com%2Fcache%2F11%2F5d%2F115d8c555afbe02b4ea2bfd20d8ff5b5.jpg&hash=9d864813df9587a6986c25c15854760b0176b64d)
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: puniraptor on October 24, 2016, 07:21:56 PM
PM FOR MIR ONLY:

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ontheissues.org%2FEvan_McMullin.jpg&hash=190fdb1b0f8dbb452e660191c08eacc4aa1ef8d0)
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: wetwillie on October 24, 2016, 07:44:57 PM
I don't think I trust a man that went bald so early in life.  What kind of other bad genes are lurking below the surface?
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: tdaver on October 24, 2016, 09:58:05 PM
Question:  racist thread title?

Nope.  Mormon thread title.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Horse_Prophecy

Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: MakeItRain on October 25, 2016, 12:38:23 AM
you have to remember that being super serious is fun for mir

What?
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: Emo EMAW on October 25, 2016, 07:46:32 AM
Question:  racist thread title?

Nope.  Mormon thread title.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Horse_Prophecy

Are you implying that Mormons are incapable of racism?
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: tdaver on October 25, 2016, 08:27:25 AM
Question:  racist thread title?

Nope.  Mormon thread title.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Horse_Prophecy

Are you implying that Mormons are incapable of racism?

Of course not
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: steve dave on October 25, 2016, 10:05:11 AM
a mormom president would be pretty cool imo. I'd love to be able to vote romney right now.
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: tdaver on October 26, 2016, 10:51:58 AM
http://www.sltrib.com/news/4506207-155/who-is-evan-mcmullin-an-unorthodox
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: Emo EMAW on October 26, 2016, 01:42:10 PM
I would be okay with a Mormon president if he weren't from Utah.  Utah R's are the absolute worst.
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: star seed 7 on October 30, 2016, 03:20:28 AM
http://www.politico.com/donald-trump-evan-mcmullin-utah#ixzz4OXB81mlh

Quote
"The guy takes votes away from me. You know, we're going to win Utah. But he takes votes away from me, this man who I never heard of..."

White Horse hits hard with the response tho
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on October 31, 2016, 10:27:41 AM
 :love:

https://twitter.com/washingtonpost/status/793089414624899072

Also, lol at the WaPo runningnthis now. They scurred
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: mocat on October 31, 2016, 11:00:02 AM
based on his haircut, it appears evan mcmullin was a junior at k-state in marketing from Pratt at the time of that photo
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: wetwillie on October 31, 2016, 03:26:18 PM
Now we know why he shaved that crap off
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: Panjandrum on October 31, 2016, 03:47:28 PM
based on his haircut, it appears evan mcmullin was a junior at k-state in marketing from Pratt at the time of that photo

He could have played quarterback or safety for us based on hair alone.
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on October 31, 2016, 05:18:07 PM
:love:

https://twitter.com/washingtonpost/status/793089414624899072

Also, lol at the WaPo runningnthis now. They scurred

Are Mormons required to wear nice shirts even at wars?
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: star seed 7 on October 31, 2016, 05:21:24 PM
White nationalist trump supporter is robocalling 200k utes to tell them evan has two mommies and is suspected to be gay as well
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: star seed 7 on October 31, 2016, 05:24:15 PM
I went to work late today and Glen beck was on the radio and he says a woman in his church used to date Evan 10 years ago and she says Evan is "DEFINITELY not gay"
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: sys on October 31, 2016, 09:05:29 PM
I went to work late today and Glen beck was on the radio and he says a woman in his church used to date Evan 10 years ago and she says Evan is "DEFINITELY not gay"

we've got to get the word out.  call everyone you know in utah before next tuesday.
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: puniraptor on October 31, 2016, 11:48:35 PM
is this latest fbi thing enough to keep hill from 270? any more bombshells otw?

trump did the best possible thing for evan by acknowledging his existence. I will consider white horse a lock for Utah now.

is it possible this whole election has been a Mormon illuminati scheme to get evan on the oval throne?
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: Institutional Control on November 01, 2016, 08:54:45 AM
40 year old Mormon without a wife is most definitely gay.
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: Emo EMAW on November 01, 2016, 09:17:38 AM
We need to send in Sarah Palin to see if he's gay or not.
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: sys on November 02, 2016, 03:22:55 PM
Quote
there's no better meal than a nice, cold Diet Coke — freshly made hummus with fresh olive oil, olives,” he continued. “And if you have some pine nuts to roast and put on the hummus, well, then you've got something special.
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: Emo EMAW on November 02, 2016, 03:26:19 PM
So he's gay huh.   :lol:
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: sys on November 02, 2016, 03:27:20 PM
Quote
I will never turn down a good plate of hummus, or falafel, or shawarma. I just never will.
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: Emo EMAW on November 02, 2016, 03:51:15 PM
A gay mooslim.  :sdeek:
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on November 02, 2016, 11:04:09 PM
Quote
I will never turn down a good plate of hummus, or falafel, or shawarma. I just never will.

I'm with him ^
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: sys on November 03, 2016, 01:01:18 AM
Quote
I will never turn down a good plate of hummus, or falafel, or shawarma. I just never will.

I'm with him ^

why is evan the only candidate willing to take the pledge, though?
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on November 03, 2016, 01:32:34 AM
Quote
I will never turn down a good plate of hummus, or falafel, or shawarma. I just never will.

I'm with him ^

why is evan the only candidate willing to take the pledge, though?

The others have obviously never had good shawarma.
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: tdaver on November 03, 2016, 12:42:33 PM
http://www.sltrib.com/news/4541370-155/two-new-polls-show-trump-surging

Quote
Two new polls show Donald Trump surging in Utah and independent candidate Evan McMullin sliding in the final days of this presidential contest.

The Monmouth University Poll found Trump at 37 percent, followed by Democrat Hillary Clinton at 31 percent and McMullin at 24 percent.

And the Rasmussen poll had Trump at 42 percent, Clinton with 31 percent and McMullin at 21 percent.
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: sys on November 03, 2016, 01:11:51 PM
eff!
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: star seed 7 on November 03, 2016, 01:14:00 PM
Utahians are mumped in the head
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: steve dave on November 03, 2016, 01:32:20 PM
lotta utahionians shed their shame cloaks and admitted they're voting for trump last minute.
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: star seed 7 on November 03, 2016, 01:33:58 PM
I've lost all respect for them
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: steve dave on November 03, 2016, 01:38:32 PM
once all the whipped moderate conservatives come crawling back with their tails between their legs to vote for trump this thing could get interesting nationwide.
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: Emo EMAW on November 03, 2016, 02:02:31 PM
Utah R's are theee worst.  The worst.  eff them.  I'd be just fine if the Utah senators and reps all went blue.  Now I'd prefer their electoral votes stay red, but the Congressmen are corrupt rough ridin' retards, and they've tricked their constituents into believing a lot of stupid crap. 
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: tdaver on November 03, 2016, 02:09:06 PM
Emo - what are your thoughts on the public lands initiative?
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: Emo EMAW on November 03, 2016, 02:34:53 PM
The complete opposite of the Utah R's.  That is the source of my frustration with them.  Considering getting the new Chase credit card and hitting my spend sending them a pallet of 'dos.
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: Emo EMAW on November 03, 2016, 02:42:55 PM
ALSO!  Those fuckers led the charge and killed in the House the Senate version of the 2015 Energy Bill which passed the Senate like 83-13.  Hate them so hard.
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: tdaver on November 03, 2016, 02:44:22 PM
So are you hoping for the Bears Ears NM?  I honestly haven't look at it in much detail, but it seems like it's going to be one of those two options.
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: Emo EMAW on November 03, 2016, 02:58:08 PM
So are you hoping for the Bears Ears NM?  I honestly haven't look at it in much detail, but it seems like it's going to be one of those two options.

I guess I'm not sure what you're talking about then.  I thought you were asking me my opinion on the strong general Utah R position on transferring federal public lands to the state.
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: tdaver on November 03, 2016, 03:16:35 PM
Related.  What I'm talking about is focused specifically on a chunk of southeast Utah.  It has essentially come down to the Utah Rs and their Public Lands Initiative versus environmental groups/local tribes and their push for a national monument.  Again I'm not up to speed on the details, but I think the PLI has some land trading and things that work favorably towards future state ownership.
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: Emo EMAW on November 03, 2016, 03:41:31 PM
The R's are just rough ridin' wrong when it comes to federal lands.  The states can't afford to manage them on a long term basis.  After a big fire or something they'll be forced to sell them, and in will swoop folks like the Koch brothers to buy, and they'll be gone forever.  We should never advocate or condone the transfer of lands from federal control.  Unless you want to side with the YallQaeda's of the world.  Anyway I'm sure I'm preaching to the choir.
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: Tobias on November 03, 2016, 03:42:47 PM
i think emo may be my favorite single issue voter
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: steve dave on November 03, 2016, 03:43:36 PM
i think emo may be my favorite single issue voter

yes, fringe single issue voters are very good
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: star seed 7 on November 03, 2016, 03:44:04 PM
It's certainly an interesting layer on the emo onion
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: Emo EMAW on November 03, 2016, 03:53:16 PM
The single issue is an onion with many layers in an of itself.  It can be very nuanced, too. 
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: star seed 7 on November 03, 2016, 03:54:06 PM
Well obviously
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: tdaver on November 03, 2016, 05:01:41 PM
You should pack a copy of The Monkey Wrench Gang next time you are out scouting elk for a few days.  I think you would enjoy it.
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on November 03, 2016, 05:44:19 PM
Utahians are mumped in the head

They had their fun then reality smacked 'em upside the head.
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: star seed 7 on November 03, 2016, 05:51:26 PM
Utahians are mumped in the head

They had their fun then reality smacked 'em upside the head.

They o' keeffee'd us
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: Emo EMAW on November 04, 2016, 09:35:47 AM
You should pack a copy of The Monkey Wrench Gang next time you are out scouting elk for a few days.  I think you would enjoy it.

I should note I'm not an environmentalist by any means.  Hate them too, actually.
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: tdaver on November 04, 2016, 11:50:15 AM
Me neither, but it's a great story and the antagonist is exactly how I picture the Utah Mormon politicians involved in the land disputes to be.
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: Emo EMAW on November 04, 2016, 12:50:20 PM
Righty-o. :thumbup:
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: sys on November 04, 2016, 01:27:38 PM
hey idiot utah democrats, vote for mcmullin you idiots.
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: Panjandrum on November 04, 2016, 01:33:19 PM
A guy on CNN last night said that some McMullin supporters could bleed into the Nevada election.  I'm not knowledgeable enough on Mormon demographics or if McMullin is on the Nevada ballot, but everyone seemed to nod and say, "Well, that is a possibility."

I doubt he will get a huge write in vote in Nevada, but I guess if there is a large Mormon population there?  Maybe?
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: sys on November 04, 2016, 01:35:42 PM
there's a large mormon population in nevada (also arizona and idaho), but if he's not on the ballot, it's probably not going to matter.
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: ChiComCat on November 04, 2016, 01:36:41 PM
A guy on CNN last night said that some McMullin supporters could bleed into the Nevada election.  I'm not knowledgeable enough on Mormon demographics or if McMullin is on the Nevada ballot, but everyone seemed to nod and say, "Well, that is a possibility."

I doubt he will get a huge write in vote in Nevada, but I guess if there is a large Mormon population there?  Maybe?

Nate Silver has talked about the similarities between how Nevada/Utah/Arizona vote.  Of course this year could be a wild card.
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: Panjandrum on November 04, 2016, 03:03:26 PM
Looks like he's a write-in in Arizona and Nevada.

He's on the ballot in Colorado, though.  That may be worth watching.  Even fraction of a percentage point could make a big difference.
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: mocat on November 04, 2016, 03:04:05 PM
yes most of utah is turning out to be complete idiots, but how is mcmullin doing in the morridor?
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: mocat on November 04, 2016, 03:04:29 PM
morridor  :lol:
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: Panjandrum on November 04, 2016, 03:05:53 PM
morridor  :lol:

I thought that was pretty good.  :cheers:
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: mocat on November 04, 2016, 03:15:30 PM
it's tdaver's, not mine, but by golly do i use it as much as possible. thanks tdaver!
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: Emo EMAW on November 04, 2016, 03:39:52 PM
Morridor is a thing, guys.  http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Morridor
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: Trim on November 06, 2016, 11:45:52 PM
http://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/nation-politics/trump-alternative-mcmullin-says-longshot-campaign-helps-stoke-new-conservative-fire/
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: puniraptor on November 07, 2016, 11:26:32 PM
im about to fill out an email my ballot? do I continue to Vote My Consciencetm and write in Evan McMullin or do I write in  "*fart noise*"?
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: tdaver on November 10, 2016, 11:17:01 PM
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi66.tinypic.com%2F29bd0fl.jpg&hash=f506dfa16519ed2e669c642946cd4aacc2de1999)
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: Tobias on November 10, 2016, 11:19:13 PM
are those garage doors made out of plastic
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: star seed 7 on November 10, 2016, 11:26:45 PM
Looks like a compound like in big love
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: Emo EMAW on November 11, 2016, 08:55:46 AM
I like how they have a special rock parking spot for your truck that's leaking oil.
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: chum1 on December 05, 2016, 10:32:28 AM
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/05/opinion/trumps-threat-to-the-constitution.html
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: star seed 7 on December 05, 2016, 10:39:17 AM
Pretty easy to see why conservatives with integrity voted 4 Evan
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: tdaver on March 06, 2018, 10:06:47 PM
This thread seems like the best place for weird Utah political stuff.  Morms happy about trump undoing Bears Ears NM want to name a highway after him.

https://www.sltrib.com/news/politics/2018/03/01/rep-mike-noel-proposes-a-utah-highway-name-change-to-honor-president-donald-trump/ (https://www.sltrib.com/news/politics/2018/03/01/rep-mike-noel-proposes-a-utah-highway-name-change-to-honor-president-donald-trump/)

Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: renocat on March 07, 2018, 08:18:42 AM
This thread seems like the best place for weird Utah political stuff.  Morms happy about trump undoing Bears Ears NM want to name a highway after him.

https://www.sltrib.com/news/politics/2018/03/01/rep-mike-noel-proposes-a-utah-highway-name-change-to-honor-president-donald-trump/ (https://www.sltrib.com/news/politics/2018/03/01/rep-mike-noel-proposes-a-utah-highway-name-change-to-honor-president-donald-trump/)
Likely to dead end over a cliff.
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: sys on March 07, 2018, 09:32:31 AM
for shame, utah.
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: tdaver on April 27, 2022, 11:53:57 PM
Look who’s back!

https://twitter.com/evanmcmullin/status/1519367131200118786?s=21&t=DHlxRIaIEVbFR0KuwyYeBA
Title: Re: white horse thread
Post by: Spracne on April 28, 2022, 12:42:54 AM
Look who’s back!

https://twitter.com/evanmcmullin/status/1519367131200118786?s=21&t=DHlxRIaIEVbFR0KuwyYeBA

He has quite a few flavors I crave. But can we swap out his face for like Nicolas Cage?