Post by: gatoveintisiete on September 26, 2016, 06:28:05 PM
It's the first round, let's get it on!
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Post by: CNS on September 26, 2016, 07:06:18 PM
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Lol
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Post by: wetwillie on September 26, 2016, 07:17:08 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on September 26, 2016, 07:18:06 PM
Post by: The Big Train on September 26, 2016, 07:29:15 PM
https://twitter.com/deadspin/status/780562938134487040
Post by: stunted on September 26, 2016, 07:38:01 PM
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Post by: puniraptor on September 26, 2016, 08:08:31 PM
one time I had to memorized the entirety of EAP's The Raven
Post by: puniraptor on September 26, 2016, 08:09:15 PM
live youtube only plz
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Post by: puniraptor on September 26, 2016, 08:23:16 PM
she flopped on it for Bernie, not him tho
Post by: chum1 on September 26, 2016, 08:23:38 PM
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on September 26, 2016, 08:23:50 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on September 26, 2016, 08:24:31 PM
Oh, man. He's yelling.
Blood coming out of his... Where ever
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on September 26, 2016, 08:24:39 PM
Oh, man. He's yelling.
Yes but his indignation about NAFTA sounds genuine which is what matters.
Post by: wetwillie on September 26, 2016, 08:25:21 PM
Oh, man. He's yelling.
Blood coming out of his... Where ever
:lol:
Post by: SkinnyBenny on September 26, 2016, 08:25:47 PM
Omg the way he chimed in on the website thing was so pathetic.
Post by: bones129 on September 26, 2016, 08:26:03 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on September 26, 2016, 08:26:14 PM
Oh, man. He's yelling.
Yes but his indignation about NAFTA sounds genuine which is what matters.
Genuinely stupid :lol:
Post by: stunted on September 26, 2016, 08:26:31 PM
:lol:
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Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on September 26, 2016, 08:38:13 PM
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Post by: star seed 7 on September 26, 2016, 08:41:35 PM
Post by: SkinnyBenny on September 26, 2016, 08:41:58 PM
she's flailing.
John dougie post
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Post by: wetwillie on September 26, 2016, 08:49:57 PM
you can question her morals, ethics, trustworthiness and especially motives, but anyone who questions hilbot's ability is lying to themselves
All with advanced stage Alzheimer's to boot
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Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on September 26, 2016, 09:08:15 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on September 26, 2016, 09:08:32 PM
Lester is the worst so far
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he's doing great imo
Post by: chum1 on September 26, 2016, 09:10:27 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on September 26, 2016, 09:10:55 PM
:blah:
Post by: chum1 on September 26, 2016, 09:11:04 PM
Post by: stunted on September 26, 2016, 09:11:11 PM
:lol:
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on September 26, 2016, 09:11:22 PM
400 lbs!!!!
:lol:
Post by: SkinnyBenny on September 26, 2016, 09:11:58 PM
Post by: The Big Train on September 26, 2016, 09:12:02 PM
Post by: SkinnyBenny on September 26, 2016, 09:12:45 PM
400 lbs!!!!
That was so bizarre
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on September 26, 2016, 09:13:05 PM
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on September 26, 2016, 09:13:16 PM
Post by: CNS on September 26, 2016, 09:13:56 PM
I mean, what?!?!? Did he rough ridin' blackout and realize he was still talking but had no clue about what?
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Post by: star seed 7 on September 26, 2016, 09:14:58 PM
I think they are both computer illiterate.
absolutely, it's so terrible
Post by: chum1 on September 26, 2016, 09:15:26 PM
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on September 26, 2016, 09:15:38 PM
400 lbs!!!!
That was so bizarre
Totally unnecessary but a great visual.
Post by: puniraptor on September 26, 2016, 09:16:11 PM
CYBER is coffin and his brain is nails and his mouth is hammer
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Post by: CNS on September 26, 2016, 09:16:59 PM
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Post by: wetwillie on September 26, 2016, 09:17:16 PM
I think they are both computer illiterate.
I mean they are 70 years old FFS
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Post by: CNS on September 26, 2016, 09:17:58 PM
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Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on September 26, 2016, 09:18:34 PM
https://twitter.com/GovHowardDean/status/780588448470163456
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Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on September 26, 2016, 09:19:53 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on September 26, 2016, 09:20:30 PM
I have no idea what either of them are talking about.
they don't either
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Post by: CNS on September 26, 2016, 09:21:31 PM
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Post by: CNS on September 26, 2016, 09:23:43 PM
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Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on September 26, 2016, 09:24:18 PM
Post by: CNS on September 26, 2016, 09:24:37 PM
I bet he thinks The Hill is the absolute best.
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Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on September 26, 2016, 09:25:15 PM
The crowd is openly mocking him at this point. Stick a fork in him. He's done.
Nobody is following any of this, and if they think they are, they are insane.
Post by: star seed 7 on September 26, 2016, 09:27:00 PM
Post by: SkinnyBenny on September 26, 2016, 09:28:55 PM
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on September 26, 2016, 09:29:15 PM
Post by: puniraptor on September 26, 2016, 09:29:45 PM
OR ISLAMIC?
Post by: CNS on September 26, 2016, 09:30:50 PM
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Post by: CNS on September 26, 2016, 09:43:02 PM
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Post by: bucket on September 26, 2016, 09:43:33 PM
https://twitter.com/GovHowardDean/status/780588448470163456
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:lol:
Post by: chum1 on September 26, 2016, 09:43:56 PM
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on September 26, 2016, 09:44:08 PM
Post by: bucket on September 26, 2016, 09:44:15 PM
When did cnn get this bad?
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NBC's moderator. What are you talking about?
Post by: bucket on September 26, 2016, 09:46:00 PM
Per ABC, the two most important issues are 1) who started birther, and 2) iraq war. What in the actual eff?
He completely blew the Iraq War question so I get that one. The birther question he got out of quickly. Which was smart on his part.
Post by: SkinnyBenny on September 26, 2016, 09:46:38 PM
Okay so Don goes 1up with two to play, he can close out the match at the next debate.
LLLLLLOLLLLLLLL
Even Brit Hume is saying right now that gE user gatoveintisiete is full of crap
Post by: CNS on September 26, 2016, 09:47:07 PM
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Post by: DQ12 on September 26, 2016, 09:47:46 PM
Okay so Don goes 1up with two to play, he can close out the match at the next debate.you must be kidding.
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on September 26, 2016, 09:48:00 PM
Per ABC, the two most important issues are 1) who started birther, and 2) iraq war. What in the actual eff?
He completely blew the Iraq War question so I get that one. The birther question he got out of quickly. Which was smart on his part.
How are those issues AT ALL? And, didnt she vote for it as a senator?
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on September 26, 2016, 09:48:57 PM
Okay so Don goes 1up with two to play, he can close out the match at the next debate.you must be kidding.
Per ABC, which is obviously psychotic, don won the first 45.
Post by: gatoveintisiete on September 26, 2016, 09:50:22 PM
Post by: bucket on September 26, 2016, 09:52:07 PM
Per ABC, the two most important issues are 1) who started birther, and 2) iraq war. What in the actual eff?
He completely blew the Iraq War question so I get that one. The birther question he got out of quickly. Which was smart on his part.
How are those issues AT ALL? And, didnt she vote for it as a senator?
Because he got a lay up for the Iraq War question from Matt Lauer and, apparently, expected to not get called on that tonight. He then proceeded to use a Sean Hannity phone call as an alibi. Good luck convincing the jury on that one.
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on September 26, 2016, 09:53:50 PM
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Post by: DQ12 on September 26, 2016, 09:54:11 PM
Post by: gatoveintisiete on September 26, 2016, 09:54:46 PM
Post by: Tobias on September 26, 2016, 09:55:33 PM
Post by: bucket on September 26, 2016, 09:58:09 PM
I think I'm starting to understand how people support these people, thx bucket
I don't believe the Republican nominee when he says that he was against the war and we should ask Sean Hannity if we don't want to believe what's on the record.
Post by: treysolid on September 26, 2016, 09:58:33 PM
Nobody gives an eff about his taxes, his stance on the war she voted for, his 1973 racial disc charge, his 4 out 10,000 llcs going bankrupt, blah blah blah, It's all jobs and border security these days boys.
i think you meant "tits up", not "1up".
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on September 26, 2016, 10:02:08 PM
I think I'm starting to understand how people support these people, thx bucket
I don't believe the Republican nominee when he says that he was against the war and we should ask Sean Hannity if we don't want to believe what's on the record.
Who gives a eff? One has repeatedly lied under oath, the othet so inarticulate it's hard to tell what he's trying to say. THERE IS ACTUAL IMPORTANT STUFF TO TALK ABOUT
Post by: gatoveintisiete on September 26, 2016, 10:02:44 PM
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Post by: gatoveintisiete on September 26, 2016, 10:07:06 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on September 26, 2016, 10:09:26 PM
Post by: wetwillie on September 26, 2016, 10:09:55 PM
Post by: _33 on September 26, 2016, 10:10:07 PM
Trump supporters will say Trump won.
Hillary supporters will say Hillary won.
Post by: pvegs on September 26, 2016, 10:10:34 PM
Post by: renocat on September 26, 2016, 10:11:05 PM
_33's BOLD PREDICTION OF THE NIGHT --brought to you by new Doritos© Jacked: Bold Crunch, Bold Flavor, Go Bold--Agree
Trump supporters will say Trump won.
Hillary supporters will say Hillary won.
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on September 26, 2016, 10:12:10 PM
charles cryptkeeper says it was a draw slightly in favor of trump :lol:
And he hates Trump...
Post by: star seed 7 on September 26, 2016, 10:16:38 PM
Post by: Panjandrum on September 26, 2016, 10:19:09 PM
charles cryptkeeper says it was a draw slightly in favor of trump :lol:
And he hates Trump...
In no way shape or form did he win.
Simply invoking Rosie O'Donnell means you lose.
Post by: catastrophe on September 26, 2016, 10:20:03 PM
Post by: puniraptor on September 26, 2016, 10:20:18 PM
Post by: gatoveintisiete on September 26, 2016, 10:23:14 PM
Economy Trump
Jobs. Trump
Trade. Trump
Ethics. Trump
Isis. Trump
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on September 26, 2016, 10:23:49 PM
"half off all the horrible things I said about women, I sad about rosie odonnell, which I think everyone would agree with" :ROFL:
So true.
Post by: chum1 on September 26, 2016, 10:24:06 PM
Post by: Panjandrum on September 26, 2016, 10:25:39 PM
Important topics
Economy Trump
Jobs. Trump
Trade. Trump
Ethics. Trump
Isis. Trump
Obviously.
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on September 26, 2016, 10:26:43 PM
It's as if your team steals the basketball with five seconds to play, down one, and not only misses the slam dunk, but slugs the ref in the face and takes a crap on the floor.
Trump could have knocked her out tonight. He failed, and he has most likely lost this election.
Post by: gatoveintisiete on September 26, 2016, 10:28:26 PM
This debate really came down to one moment. Lester Holt completely set up Hillary to hang herself on the cybersecurity question. She did a marvelous job tying her own noose for two minutes. And then Trump proceeded to completely let her off the hook by talking about China and Russia instead of slamming her with her own negligent bahavior with her emails.
It's as if your team steals the basketball with five seconds to play, down one, and not only misses the slam dunk, but slugs the ref in the face and takes a crap on the floor.
Trump could have knocked her out tonight. He failed, and he has most likely lost this election.
Agree he missed a crushing uppercut there, but he will win.
Post by: The Big Train on September 26, 2016, 10:29:28 PM
Post by: puniraptor on September 26, 2016, 10:33:51 PM
"half off all the horrible things I said about women, I said about rosie odonnell, which, I think, everyone would agree with" :ROFL:
So true.
edited for more trump commas
Post by: puniraptor on September 26, 2016, 10:34:30 PM
320+ million people in this country and we pick these two :flush:
small applicant pool. very few people want this crap job
Post by: _33 on September 26, 2016, 10:35:03 PM
Post by: bucket on September 26, 2016, 10:35:21 PM
This debate really came down to one moment. Lester Holt completely set up Hillary to hang herself on the cybersecurity question. She did a marvelous job tying her own noose for two minutes. And then Trump proceeded to completely let her off the hook by talking about China and Russia instead of slamming her with her own negligent bahavior with her emails.
It's as if your team steals the basketball with five seconds to play, down one, and not only misses the slam dunk, but slugs the ref in the face and takes a crap on the floor.
Trump could have knocked her out tonight. He failed, and he has most likely lost this election.
Agree he missed a crushing uppercut there, but he will win.
Same could be said about Hillz on "Stop and Frisk." I couldn't believe how long Donald talked about it.
Post by: wetwillie on September 26, 2016, 10:35:59 PM
Post by: stunted on September 26, 2016, 10:36:15 PM
_33's BOLD PREDICTION OF THE NIGHT --brought to you by new Doritos© Jacked: Bold Crunch, Bold Flavor, Go Bold--
Trump supporters will say Trump won.
Hillary supporters will say Hillary won.
:lol: spot on
The real winner we can all agree on:
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Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on September 26, 2016, 10:40:38 PM
Clinton wasn't exactly good, but she at least gave the workmanlike performance of a professional politician. She looked good by comparison to Trump's rambling incoherence.
Post by: SkinnyBenny on September 26, 2016, 10:42:04 PM
This debate really came down to one moment. Lester Holt completely set up Hillary to hang herself on the cybersecurity question. She did a marvelous job tying her own noose for two minutes. And then Trump proceeded to completely let her off the hook by talking about China and Russia instead of slamming her with her own negligent bahavior with her emails.
It's as if your team steals the basketball with five seconds to play, down one, and not only misses the slam dunk, but slugs the ref in the face and takes a crap on the floor.
Trump could have knocked her out tonight. He failed, and he has most likely lost this election.
Agree he missed a crushing uppercut there, but he will win.
Same could be said about Hillz on "Stop and Frisk." I couldn't believe how long Donald talked about it.
No. It was amazing. She simply let him ramble on and on, basically arguing himself into a figure 8, because she knew that someone will tweet an exact transcript of the entire incoherent speech. And then SkinnyBenny will post it on goEMAW.
Post by: bucket on September 26, 2016, 10:42:45 PM
Silver lining is I thought Trump got his ass kicked in the primaries, too. But I'm still pretty sure tonight's performance is going to cost him badly.
Clinton wasn't exactly good, but she at least gave the workmanlike performance of a professional politician. She looked good by comparison to Trump's rambling incoherence.
True, plus there's this....
https://twitter.com/Nate_Cohn/status/780611927894528001
Post by: gatoveintisiete on September 26, 2016, 10:43:48 PM
Post by: stunted on September 26, 2016, 10:47:36 PM
Silver lining is I thought Trump got his ass kicked in the primaries, too. But I'm still pretty sure tonight's performance is going to cost him badly.
Clinton wasn't exactly good, but she at least gave the workmanlike performance of a professional politician. She looked good by comparison to Trump's rambling incoherence.
True, plus there's this....
https://twitter.com/Nate_Cohn/status/780611927894528001
I should counter with an infowars poll
Post by: bucket on September 26, 2016, 10:49:27 PM
Post by: stunted on September 26, 2016, 10:49:37 PM
ruffled a few feathers
Post by: Panjandrum on September 26, 2016, 10:49:51 PM
Time magazine debate poll. Trump 58- Hill 42 :Woot:
A statistically irrelevant online poll. Good reference.
Post by: gatoveintisiete on September 26, 2016, 10:51:55 PM
Post by: catastrophe on September 26, 2016, 10:53:21 PM
Post by: Panjandrum on September 26, 2016, 10:54:02 PM
It's a tsunami kid, take cover
Or a lot of bored Breitbart readers.
Was Duck Dynasty not on tonight? Some Trump supporters may have had some spare time.
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on September 26, 2016, 10:55:11 PM
I am surprised that Krauthammer said it was a draw. He's very smart, but I don't feel like I was watching the same debate.
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on September 26, 2016, 10:58:19 PM
Post by: SkinnyBenny on September 26, 2016, 11:05:22 PM
Post by: bones129 on September 26, 2016, 11:23:26 PM
Post by: Trim on September 26, 2016, 11:42:45 PM
ivanka's tits!
:lol:
Post by: Trim on September 26, 2016, 11:43:43 PM
Post by: bones129 on September 27, 2016, 12:53:04 AM
https://www.facebook.com/theDanRather/posts/10157478224025716
Post by: MakeItRain on September 27, 2016, 01:00:24 AM
Per ABC, the two most important issues are 1) who started birther, and 2) iraq war. What in the actual eff?
These debates don't matter as far as substance goes but for me his best moment was when he accused her campaign of starting the birther movement and she didn't at all deny it. I just watched the debate DVRed on CNN and they all say she won the birther issue, bullshit. He harpooned her on that but the media seems to be covering her ass.
Post by: MakeItRain on September 27, 2016, 01:09:46 AM
tonight was an unmitigated disaster for trump.
How? He stayed on his message, there was nothing that happened tonight that will turn supporters away from him. I think he played himself at the very beginning when he was trying to justify Hilrod's accusation that he hasn't paid taxes, "THAT'S SMART!" wtf? His moronic ass supporters won't give two shits that he hasn't paid taxes when 99.999% of them has mumbled at some time something about their taxes going to food stamps and Obama Phones.
Post by: MakeItRain on September 27, 2016, 01:12:41 AM
Anyone who is even remotely likeable and measured would have destroyed Trump tonight. But that didn't happen.
She seemed just as disinterested in being there as she did for all but the very last Democratic debate.
Post by: MakeItRain on September 27, 2016, 01:28:49 AM
eff Hillary and her army of equivocators; I wouldn't vote for her if I had five votes.
Post by: stunted on September 27, 2016, 01:34:51 AM
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/780644145492877312
:driving:
I thought clitler kept it together well. Robotic and creepy smiles, but she was OK. Im pessimistic cause I expected Trump to really crap on her face. But good to see I'm wrong and Trump did well. I watched with my good friend who hates Trump (I'm so tolerant and open minded) and he thought Trump won too!
Post by: MakeItRain on September 27, 2016, 01:46:36 AM
Post by: stunted on September 27, 2016, 02:08:32 AM
Post by: MakeItRain on September 27, 2016, 02:43:48 AM
Post by: CNS on September 27, 2016, 05:28:30 AM
(https://i.redd.it/2erlsswc7znx.jpg)
ruffled a few feathers
This is why trump can still win. Ppl are this stupid.
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Post by: slackcat on September 27, 2016, 05:47:32 AM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 27, 2016, 05:48:33 AM
I mean even the leader of her own party, Barrack Obama and his wife (BFF with George Bush) hate Hillary with the power of a 1000 suns.
A centrist, thoughtful Republican would win this election in a landslide.
Post by: chum1 on September 27, 2016, 06:07:00 AM
Post by: steve dave on September 27, 2016, 06:44:22 AM
Post by: chum1 on September 27, 2016, 07:06:44 AM
Post by: catastrophe on September 27, 2016, 07:25:18 AM
Dan Rather knows.
https://www.facebook.com/theDanRather/posts/10157478224025716
Dan Rather bugs the crap out of me now because he acts like he's still a journalist even though he's very obviously a democratic spokesman.
Post by: catastrophe on September 27, 2016, 07:27:06 AM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 27, 2016, 08:01:00 AM
I agree that the Republican party might not suck if it wasn't the Republican party.
The Democratic Party: Making people think we don't love war, we aren't really racisty, and that we actually care about people for a long time.
Post by: steve dave on September 27, 2016, 08:13:08 AM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 27, 2016, 08:13:45 AM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 27, 2016, 08:14:41 AM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on September 27, 2016, 08:15:19 AM
Tell your good friend he's a stupid eff. The only thing Donald popped her on was trade but he's too stupid to say something of actual substance that would actually stick. As someone who despises both of these deplorables; I feel real comfortable categorizing anyone who thinks Trump won this debate as a brain dead moron unfit for breeding humans.Wow! So relaxed. So calm. Loves life. Doesn't have the problems of us other peasants on this board. We're all witnesses.
Post by: chum1 on September 27, 2016, 08:24:29 AM
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"I know that person. That person was a Miss Universe person," Trump told the Fox News morning show. "And she was the worst we ever had, the worst, the absolute worst, she was impossible," he said. "She gained a massive amount of weight, and it was a real problem. We had a real problem. Not only that, her attitude."
http://www.npr.org/2016/09/27/495611105/in-post-debate-interview-trump-again-criticizes-pageant-winners-weight
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on September 27, 2016, 08:42:27 AM
tonight was an unmitigated disaster for trump.
How? He stayed on his message, there was nothing that happened tonight that will turn supporters away from him. I think he played himself at the very beginning when he was trying to justify Hilrod's accusation that he hasn't paid taxes, "THAT'S SMART!" wtf? His moronic ass supporters won't give two shits that he hasn't paid taxes when 99.999% of them has mumbled at some time something about their taxes going to food stamps and Obama Phones.
I'm really glad you and hillary pay more taxes than legally obligated. It's good for the country.
Post by: catastrophe on September 27, 2016, 08:48:04 AM
Post by: CNS on September 27, 2016, 09:07:07 AM
BBC radio had a thing about different countries and who they say won the debate. This may shock some people but Russians think Trump both won the debate AND the debate was rigged against him.
:love:
Post by: treysolid on September 27, 2016, 09:12:40 AM
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on September 27, 2016, 09:15:24 AM
Post by: MakeItRain on September 27, 2016, 09:44:22 AM
I agree that the Republican party might not suck if it wasn't the Republican party.
The Democratic Party: Making people think we don't love war, we aren't really racisty, and that we actually care about people for a long time.
Don't deflect, the Democratic party being a crap show has nothing to do with the Republican party being its own worst enemy. It also helps that it's apparent that the Republican party can't identify the weakness of the Democratic party without using hyperbole that alienates the people they need to help them grow. The fact is that there are thousands of people like me to be had if the Republican party had any interest in expanding its base.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 27, 2016, 09:45:13 AM
I agree that the Republican party might not suck if it wasn't the Republican party.
The Democratic Party: Making people think we don't love war, we aren't really racisty, and that we actually care about people for a long time.
Don't deflect, the Democratic party being a crap show has nothing to do with the Republican party being its own worst enemy. It also helps that it's apparent that the Republican party can't identify the weakness of the Democratic party without using hyperbole that alienates the people they need to help them grow. The fact is that there are thousands of people like me to be had if the Republican party had any interest in expanding its base.
I think I already covered that, but thanks.
Post by: CNS on September 27, 2016, 09:53:35 AM
1. Marco
2. Jeb
3. Kasich(SP?)
4. Cruz
I am pretty confident about 1-3 but feel pretty good about #4 too. I mean, Cruz is batshit crazy, and I think he would be doing pretty well against hill.
All 4 would be doing a better job of highlighting her fuckups rather than playing look at me/but don't check into what I say.
Post by: star seed 7 on September 27, 2016, 09:58:01 AM
Post by: MakeItRain on September 27, 2016, 09:58:24 AM
Tell your good friend he's a stupid eff. The only thing Donald popped her on was trade but he's too stupid to say something of actual substance that would actually stick. As someone who despises both of these deplorables; I feel real comfortable categorizing anyone who thinks Trump won this debate as a brain dead moron unfit for breeding humans.Wow! So relaxed. So calm. Loves life. Doesn't have the problems of us other peasants on this board. We're all witnesses.
Asking this may be dangerous but please explain to me how stunted having an idiot friend have any impact on me at all?
Post by: treysolid on September 27, 2016, 09:59:18 AM
Ppl that would be killing Hill right now if nominated by their dumbass party:
1. Marco
2. Jeb
3. Kasich(SP?)
4. Cruz
I am pretty confident about 1-3 but feel pretty good about #4 too. I mean, Cruz is batshit crazy, and I think he would be doing pretty well against hill.
All 4 would be doing a better job of highlighting her fuckups rather than playing look at me/but don't check into what I say.
Specifically when it comes to debating, only Cruz would have a chance. 1-3 would have to get mopped up off the floor.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on September 27, 2016, 10:02:55 AM
I mean the other day you stated how cool, calm, and collect you are and how you don't take the internet too seriously like the rest of us dumbasses. I just find it entertaining how irritable you get at times, on matters that don't even effect you. Enjoy your Tuesday, MIR. Go cats!Tell your good friend he's a stupid eff. The only thing Donald popped her on was trade but he's too stupid to say something of actual substance that would actually stick. As someone who despises both of these deplorables; I feel real comfortable categorizing anyone who thinks Trump won this debate as a brain dead moron unfit for breeding humans.Wow! So relaxed. So calm. Loves life. Doesn't have the problems of us other peasants on this board. We're all witnesses.
Asking this may be dangerous but please explain to me how stunted having an idiot friend have any impact on me at all?
Post by: MakeItRain on September 27, 2016, 10:04:55 AM
tonight was an unmitigated disaster for trump.
How? He stayed on his message, there was nothing that happened tonight that will turn supporters away from him. I think he played himself at the very beginning when he was trying to justify Hilrod's accusation that he hasn't paid taxes, "THAT'S SMART!" wtf? His moronic ass supporters won't give two shits that he hasn't paid taxes when 99.999% of them has mumbled at some time something about their taxes going to food stamps and Obama Phones.
I'm really glad you and hillary pay more taxes than legally obligated. It's good for the country.
You think he's hiding income to meet his legal obligation?
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on September 27, 2016, 10:05:19 AM
Well it's okay because I know you were just trolling for a reaction, I know you don't really think that because you have told us lots of times that you have black friends.Please take your own advice is all i'm saying. :dunno:
Thing is though is I'm not a completely unhinged lunatic who has self esteem issues and places a high value on the thoughts of people on the internet. I will not fight with you, that's your thing, along with following around people who haven't interacted with you for three years. Grow up and stop having weekly personal beefs on the internet, it will make your life better.
Post by: MakeItRain on September 27, 2016, 10:05:45 AM
I agree that the Republican party might not suck if it wasn't the Republican party.
The Democratic Party: Making people think we don't love war, we aren't really racisty, and that we actually care about people for a long time.
Don't deflect, the Democratic party being a crap show has nothing to do with the Republican party being its own worst enemy. It also helps that it's apparent that the Republican party can't identify the weakness of the Democratic party without using hyperbole that alienates the people they need to help them grow. The fact is that there are thousands of people like me to be had if the Republican party had any interest in expanding its base.
I think I already covered that, but thanks.
You did? Where? When?
Post by: catastrophe on September 27, 2016, 10:10:57 AM
Ppl that would be killing Hill right now if nominated by their dumbass party:
1. Marco
2. Jeb
3. Kasich(SP?)
4. Cruz
I am pretty confident about 1-3 but feel pretty good about #4 too. I mean, Cruz is batshit crazy, and I think he would be doing pretty well against hill.
All 4 would be doing a better job of highlighting her fuckups rather than playing look at me/but don't check into what I say.
Specifically when it comes to debating, only Cruz would have a chance. 1-3 would have to get mopped up off the floor.
I mean, it's really not hard to debate Hillary. Just set out some coherent policy argument of your own and then put her on the defensive with any of the dozens of high profile ethical issues that she hasn't been able to escape ever since this time last year.
Trump totally blew #1 (although he started out alright on trade) and even managed to mess up #2 when given huge openings.
Post by: CNS on September 27, 2016, 10:12:36 AM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 27, 2016, 10:13:52 AM
It's truly sad that R's couldn't nominate someone decent. Literally at every phase of this debate Hillary's track record should have been rolled out and used to destroy her.
I mean even the leader of her own party, Barrack Obama and his wife (BFF with George Bush) hate Hillary with the power of a 1000 suns.
A centrist, thoughtful Republican would win this election in a landslide.
For MIR
Post by: _33 on September 27, 2016, 10:43:15 AM
Post by: star seed 7 on September 27, 2016, 10:54:51 AM
Mexican rapists :curse:
Post by: CNS on September 27, 2016, 10:55:07 AM
Post by: stunted on September 27, 2016, 10:58:57 AM
Tell your good friend he's a stupid eff. The only thing Donald popped her on was trade but he's too stupid to say something of actual substance that would actually stick. As someone who despises both of these deplorables; I feel real comfortable categorizing anyone who thinks Trump won this debate as a brain dead moron unfit for breeding humans.Wow! So relaxed. So calm. Loves life. Doesn't have the problems of us other peasants on this board. We're all witnesses.
idiot friend
lol
So close-minded...you absolutely cannot fathom anyone having a different (and very reasonable) opinion than yours, and something as little as a "meh I think x" can launch you into a fury of hate, name-calling, and anger. How do you react to actual adversity irl?
I really recommend meditating. Once you get rid of your emotional and neurotic thinking, you'll have a clear mind and see the world as the beautiful place that it is. The world isnt out to get you. Check out this video when you're ready to free your mind.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=fmA6BqvC0xs
Post by: MakeItRain on September 27, 2016, 10:59:34 AM
I mean the other day you stated how cool, calm, and collect you are and how you don't take the internet too seriously like the rest of us dumbasses. I just find it entertaining how irritable you get at times, on matters that don't even effect you. Enjoy your Tuesday, MIR. Go cats!Tell your good friend he's a stupid eff. The only thing Donald popped her on was trade but he's too stupid to say something of actual substance that would actually stick. As someone who despises both of these deplorables; I feel real comfortable categorizing anyone who thinks Trump won this debate as a brain dead moron unfit for breeding humans.Wow! So relaxed. So calm. Loves life. Doesn't have the problems of us other peasants on this board. We're all witnesses.
Asking this may be dangerous but please explain to me how stunted having an idiot friend have any impact on me at all?
Again, I'll ask. How does observing stunted's dumbass friend have any effect on my life? Does it strain you to make observations?
Post by: stunted on September 27, 2016, 11:03:10 AM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on September 27, 2016, 11:04:37 AM
That kinda comes off as an unhinged lunatic who has self esteem/control issues. Also lol at you saying I look out to fight people on here, but you don't. T's & P's.
Post by: stunted on September 27, 2016, 11:05:44 AM
Post by: MakeItRain on September 27, 2016, 11:05:58 AM
Tell your good friend he's a stupid eff. The only thing Donald popped her on was trade but he's too stupid to say something of actual substance that would actually stick. As someone who despises both of these deplorables; I feel real comfortable categorizing anyone who thinks Trump won this debate as a brain dead moron unfit for breeding humans.Wow! So relaxed. So calm. Loves life. Doesn't have the problems of us other peasants on this board. We're all witnesses.
idiot friend
lol
So close-minded...you absolutely cannot fathom anyone having a different (and very reasonable) opinion than yours, and something as little as a "meh I think x" can launch you into a fury of hate, name-calling, and anger. How do you react to actual adversity irl?
I really recommend meditating. Once you get rid of your emotional and neurotic thinking, you'll have a clear mind and see the world as the beautiful place that it is. The world isnt out to get you. Check out this video when you're ready to free your mind.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=fmA6BqvC0xs
Opinions can be very stupid and open to ridicule. Thinking that Donald Trump won that debate is stupid because it cannot be reasonably justified.
Post by: stunted on September 27, 2016, 11:10:37 AM
Post by: Trim on September 27, 2016, 11:11:55 AM
Post by: MakeItRain on September 27, 2016, 11:13:20 AM
I honestly don't care about the issue at hand, MIR. I was just clearly stating how hypocritical you are at times on the do's/don'ts of bbs'ing on this board. You apparently think you've got it down, while slapping other peoples hands during the process.
That kinda comes off as an unhinged lunatic who has self esteem/control issues. An lol at you saying I look out to fight people on here, but you don't. T's & P's.
I didn't ask you about the issue at hand, I asked you how observing a person had a stupid opinion effects my life in a negative manner. I keep having to ask because you keep saying it but not answering the question. I'll ask a different way, maybe it will stick this time; how does observing a stupid opinion espoused on a message board negatively effects me or makes my observation of you hypocritical? Did I say you shouldn't use the message board to share your observations?
Also who am I having a fight with on here?
Post by: MakeItRain on September 27, 2016, 11:14:05 AM
Anything can be justified. Everyone is irrational. After you check out Zen 4 poon, you can read more about it on Scott Adams blog.
wow,.okay bud, thank you.
Post by: stunted on September 27, 2016, 11:15:14 AM
Post by: catastrophe on September 27, 2016, 11:17:24 AM
I honestly don't care about the issue at hand, MIR. I was just clearly stating how hypocritical you are at times on the do's/don'ts of bbs'ing on this board. You apparently think you've got it down, while slapping other peoples hands during the process.
That kinda comes off as an unhinged lunatic who has self esteem/control issues. An lol at you saying I look out to fight people on here, but you don't. T's & P's.
I didn't ask you about the issue at hand, I asked you how observing a person had a stupid opinion effects my life in a negative manner. I keep having to ask because you keep saying it but not answering the question. I'll ask a different way, maybe it will stick this time; how does observing a stupid opinion espoused on a message board negatively effects me or makes my observation of you hypocritical? Did I say you shouldn't use the message board to share your observations?
Also who am I having a fight with on here?
I think WC might be referencing stuff like this:
Quote
Tell me who you're voting for and why you're doing so and I can tell you why that's stupid, its incredibly distasteful to do so though.
But that's none of my business.
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on September 27, 2016, 11:22:52 AM
tonight was an unmitigated disaster for trump.
How? He stayed on his message, there was nothing that happened tonight that will turn supporters away from him. I think he played himself at the very beginning when he was trying to justify Hilrod's accusation that he hasn't paid taxes, "THAT'S SMART!" wtf? His moronic ass supporters won't give two shits that he hasn't paid taxes when 99.999% of them has mumbled at some time something about their taxes going to food stamps and Obama Phones.
I'm really glad you and hillary pay more taxes than legally obligated. It's good for the country.
You think he's hiding income to meet his legal obligation?
What are you talking about? I assume he isn't under IRS investigation or Hills would have brought that up. The constant audits obviously can't find anything wrong with his returns. It's interesting that she does bring up questions about his returns that nobody outside the IRS should have access to.
Post by: star seed 7 on September 27, 2016, 11:25:59 AM
Post by: MakeItRain on September 27, 2016, 11:33:43 AM
I honestly don't care about the issue at hand, MIR. I was just clearly stating how hypocritical you are at times on the do's/don'ts of bbs'ing on this board. You apparently think you've got it down, while slapping other peoples hands during the process.
That kinda comes off as an unhinged lunatic who has self esteem/control issues. An lol at you saying I look out to fight people on here, but you don't. T's & P's.
I didn't ask you about the issue at hand, I asked you how observing a person had a stupid opinion effects my life in a negative manner. I keep having to ask because you keep saying it but not answering the question. I'll ask a different way, maybe it will stick this time; how does observing a stupid opinion espoused on a message board negatively effects me or makes my observation of you hypocritical? Did I say you shouldn't use the message board to share your observations?
Also who am I having a fight with on here?
I think WC might be referencing stuff like this:QuoteTell me who you're voting for and why you're doing so and I can tell you why that's stupid, its incredibly distasteful to do so though.
But that's none of my business.
Not what he's talking about, this is more appropriate for what stunted is talking about. I never said stunted and his friend are morons for potentially voting for trump, they're morons for thinking he won that debate. I'm guessing you can see the difference.
Post by: gatoveintisiete on September 27, 2016, 11:33:49 AM
Post by: catastrophe on September 27, 2016, 11:37:19 AM
Not what he's talking about, this is more appropriate for what stunted is talking about. I never said stunted and his friend are morons for potentially voting for trump, they're morons for thinking he won that debate. I'm guessing you can see the difference.
I'm actually not trying to argue. I legitimately thought that is the point he was trying to make. Personally I agree all's fair in the Pit.
Post by: MakeItRain on September 27, 2016, 11:41:12 AM
tonight was an unmitigated disaster for trump.
How? He stayed on his message, there was nothing that happened tonight that will turn supporters away from him. I think he played himself at the very beginning when he was trying to justify Hilrod's accusation that he hasn't paid taxes, "THAT'S SMART!" wtf? His moronic ass supporters won't give two shits that he hasn't paid taxes when 99.999% of them has mumbled at some time something about their taxes going to food stamps and Obama Phones.
I'm really glad you and hillary pay more taxes than legally obligated. It's good for the country.
You think he's hiding income to meet his legal obligation?
What are you talking about? I assume he isn't under IRS investigation or Hills would have brought that up. The constant audits obviously can't find anything wrong with his returns. It's interesting that she does bring up questions about his returns that nobody outside the IRS should have access to.
I didn't say anything about IRS investigation. He said that his revenue was $600+ million. Maybe I'm wrong but to not pay any income tax on that much income requires some creative accounting that doesn't mesh with his message or constituency.
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on September 27, 2016, 12:16:00 PM
tonight was an unmitigated disaster for trump.
How? He stayed on his message, there was nothing that happened tonight that will turn supporters away from him. I think he played himself at the very beginning when he was trying to justify Hilrod's accusation that he hasn't paid taxes, "THAT'S SMART!" wtf? His moronic ass supporters won't give two shits that he hasn't paid taxes when 99.999% of them has mumbled at some time something about their taxes going to food stamps and Obama Phones.
I'm really glad you and hillary pay more taxes than legally obligated. It's good for the country.
You think he's hiding income to meet his legal obligation?
What are you talking about? I assume he isn't under IRS investigation or Hills would have brought that up. The constant audits obviously can't find anything wrong with his returns. It's interesting that she does bring up questions about his returns that nobody outside the IRS should have access to.
I didn't say anything about IRS investigation. He said that his revenue was $600+ million. Maybe I'm wrong but to not pay any income tax on that much income requires some creative accounting that doesn't mesh with his message or constituency.
The IRS doesn't allow "creative accounting" during audits. I'm sure his accountants are very good and know the relevant tax codes well. Income doesn't necessarily mean that money goes into your pocket if your a business owner. You can sink 100% back into your company(s) if you want.
I understand you believe 100% of his constituency are complete morons and don't understand this, but most successful business owners should be a very large part of that constituency, and they get it.
Post by: renocat on September 27, 2016, 12:20:10 PM
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on September 27, 2016, 12:40:16 PM
Post by: SdK on September 27, 2016, 12:50:29 PM
Post by: SdK on September 27, 2016, 12:50:44 PM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on September 27, 2016, 12:52:27 PM
It's refreshing to know that the three most important things to Democrats right now are 1) nuclear war, 2) russia, and 3) who called who a mean name. 1&2 haven't been relevent since the Berlin Wall fell, and 3 is best reserved for resolution by primary school teacher. These people are adolescent and delusional sheep, doing what they're told. #thinkprogress
Is this some sort of commentary on how Trump is actually a democrat?
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on September 27, 2016, 01:29:32 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on September 27, 2016, 01:30:37 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on September 27, 2016, 01:45:18 PM
Dammit, I came here to whine about what a crap show Trump was, and the last two pages are MIR bitching about something nobody gives a crap about. For effs sake, enough.
I took him and Hillrod out, you chose not to talk about it
Post by: MakeItRain on September 27, 2016, 01:56:44 PM
tonight was an unmitigated disaster for trump.
How? He stayed on his message, there was nothing that happened tonight that will turn supporters away from him. I think he played himself at the very beginning when he was trying to justify Hilrod's accusation that he hasn't paid taxes, "THAT'S SMART!" wtf? His moronic ass supporters won't give two shits that he hasn't paid taxes when 99.999% of them has mumbled at some time something about their taxes going to food stamps and Obama Phones.
I'm really glad you and hillary pay more taxes than legally obligated. It's good for the country.
You think he's hiding income to meet his legal obligation?
What are you talking about? I assume he isn't under IRS investigation or Hills would have brought that up. The constant audits obviously can't find anything wrong with his returns. It's interesting that she does bring up questions about his returns that nobody outside the IRS should have access to.
I didn't say anything about IRS investigation. He said that his revenue was $600+ million. Maybe I'm wrong but to not pay any income tax on that much income requires some creative accounting that doesn't mesh with his message or constituency.
The IRS doesn't allow "creative accounting" during audits. I'm sure his accountants are very good and know the relevant tax codes well. Income doesn't necessarily mean that money goes into your pocket if your a business owner. You can sink 100% back into your company(s) if you want.
I understand you believe 100% of his constituency are complete morons and don't understand this, but most successful business owners should be a very large part of that constituency, and they get it.
Stop lecturing me about the IRS and audits. You are intentionally dodging the larger point. What percentage of Trump voters, including Trump himself, would pitch a crap fit if any other politician not only didn't pay income tax but brag about not paying income tax?
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 27, 2016, 02:10:34 PM
tonight was an unmitigated disaster for trump.
How? He stayed on his message, there was nothing that happened tonight that will turn supporters away from him. I think he played himself at the very beginning when he was trying to justify Hilrod's accusation that he hasn't paid taxes, "THAT'S SMART!" wtf? His moronic ass supporters won't give two shits that he hasn't paid taxes when 99.999% of them has mumbled at some time something about their taxes going to food stamps and Obama Phones.
I'm really glad you and hillary pay more taxes than legally obligated. It's good for the country.
You think he's hiding income to meet his legal obligation?
What are you talking about? I assume he isn't under IRS investigation or Hills would have brought that up. The constant audits obviously can't find anything wrong with his returns. It's interesting that she does bring up questions about his returns that nobody outside the IRS should have access to.
I didn't say anything about IRS investigation. He said that his revenue was $600+ million. Maybe I'm wrong but to not pay any income tax on that much income requires some creative accounting that doesn't mesh with his message or constituency.
The IRS doesn't allow "creative accounting" during audits. I'm sure his accountants are very good and know the relevant tax codes well. Income doesn't necessarily mean that money goes into your pocket if your a business owner. You can sink 100% back into your company(s) if you want.
I understand you believe 100% of his constituency are complete morons and don't understand this, but most successful business owners should be a very large part of that constituency, and they get it.
Stop lecturing me about the IRS and audits. You are intentionally dodging the larger point. What percentage of Trump voters, including Trump himself, would pitch a crap fit if any other politician not only didn't pay income tax but brag about not paying income tax?
I don't know, do they employ thousands of people, do the own properties that collect millions in tack on usage taxes for local municipalities, do they own properties that they have to pay six and seven figure property taxes on? Or, do they just run around hiding their ridiculous earnings in dubious foundations?
Post by: sys on September 27, 2016, 02:28:30 PM
Or, do they just run around hiding their ridiculous earnings in dubious foundations?
it's funny, because trump is accused of doing exactly that, in addition to using his foundation to pay personal and business expenses, while the clinton foundation is independently judged as well-run and effective by charity judging organizations.
but weirdo clintonophobes like dax, mir and cns never let their ignorance get in the way of what they want to believe.
Post by: Trim on September 27, 2016, 02:34:30 PM
Post by: sys on September 27, 2016, 02:37:00 PM
I'd be pretty surprised if she doesn't have plenty of tax pros doing whatever they can for her.
the clintons have pretty much paid the maximum tax they possibly can. they, you know, have been releasing these things for a while now.
Post by: MakeItRain on September 27, 2016, 02:43:42 PM
Or, do they just run around hiding their ridiculous earnings in dubious foundations?
it's funny, because trump is accused of doing exactly that, in addition to using his foundation to pay personal and business expenses, while the clinton foundation is independently judged as well-run and effective by charity judging organizations.
but weirdo clintonophobes like dax, mir and cns never let their ignorance get in the way of what they want to believe.
Wait, what? How did I get in that group, I've never been critical of the Clinton Foundation?
Post by: catastrophe on September 27, 2016, 02:44:05 PM
Like, do they take the standard deduction?
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 27, 2016, 02:44:16 PM
Or, do they just run around hiding their ridiculous earnings in dubious foundations?
it's funny, because trump is accused of doing exactly that, in addition to using his foundation to pay personal and business expenses, while the clinton foundation is independently judged as well-run and effective by charity judging organizations.
but weirdo clintonophobes like dax, mir and cns never let their ignorance get in the way of what they want to believe.
Sysbot (closeted Hillbot) is falling back on the obfuscation and re-direction Clintonites have employed recently in regards to to the Clinton Foundation. For a number of years, entities like Charity Navigator could (would not) not rate the Clinton Foundation because of the lack of transparency in financial reporting, and because the CF was consistently engaged in a shell game (albeit the nice folks at entities like Charity Navigator would never use those words) of creating and then folding various sub charitable organizations under the umbrella of the Clinton Foundation. The Clinton Foundation finally bought enough time to get its books cleaned up enough to look sparkling in the eyes of Charity ratings organizations.
Post by: Trim on September 27, 2016, 02:44:38 PM
I'd be pretty surprised if she doesn't have plenty of tax pros doing whatever they can for her.
the clintons have pretty much paid the maximum tax they possibly can. they, you know, have been releasing these things for a while now.
Well, I'm surprised. Is that a point they make when campaigning?
Post by: catastrophe on September 27, 2016, 02:47:23 PM
I'd be pretty surprised if she doesn't have plenty of tax pros doing whatever they can for her.
the clintons have pretty much paid the maximum tax they possibly can. they, you know, have been releasing these things for a while now.
Well, I'm surprised. Is that a point they make when campaigning?
I admit I haven't looked at the returns, but there is pretty much no way this is a factual statement.
Post by: star seed 7 on September 27, 2016, 03:05:09 PM
Post by: XocolateThundarr on September 27, 2016, 03:06:51 PM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on September 27, 2016, 03:09:45 PM
Post by: catastrophe on September 27, 2016, 03:12:08 PM
Post by: catastrophe on September 27, 2016, 03:12:54 PM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on September 27, 2016, 03:18:05 PM
Post by: CNS on September 27, 2016, 03:27:16 PM
Post by: sys on September 27, 2016, 03:29:28 PM
Wait, what? How did I get in that group, I've never been critical of the Clinton Foundation?
you're a weirdo clintonophobe, believing things about her that have no basis in fact. last night, for example, you were irate that cnn used the complete lack of evidence that clinton had ever engaged in birtherism to excuse her of having been a birther. goddamn mainstream media.
Post by: sys on September 27, 2016, 03:34:33 PM
I'm honestly not sure what to think of someone who pays the maximum amount of taxes they possibly can. I'm actually not even sure what that means.
Like, do they take the standard deduction?
it means when they had their taxes done, they didn't use any means of deferring, sheltering or redirecting income on which taxes would be due that might look even slightly unsavory to voters who don't have the amount or types of income that would make those vehicles useful to them.
Post by: ChiComCat on September 27, 2016, 03:37:41 PM
Post by: XocolateThundarr on September 27, 2016, 03:39:06 PM
I'm honestly not sure what to think of someone who pays the maximum amount of taxes they possibly can. I'm actually not even sure what that means.
Like, do they take the standard deduction?
it means when they had their taxes done, they didn't use any means of deferring, sheltering or redirecting income on which taxes would be due that might look even slightly unsavory to voters who don't have the amount or types of income that would make those vehicles useful to them.
As long as those vehicles are legal, it shouldn't matter.
Post by: catastrophe on September 27, 2016, 03:39:47 PM
Still, based on the sources of their income, are you sure those structures were even available to them? Or are you really just saying they're not doing anything on a return unless 10/10 tax attorneys say it's kosher?
Post by: sys on September 27, 2016, 03:49:41 PM
As long as those vehicles are legal, it shouldn't matter.
it matters to some voters.
Post by: CNS on September 27, 2016, 03:50:02 PM
Post by: sys on September 27, 2016, 03:54:21 PM
Ok, wanted to make sure you weren't saying the Clintons did weird things like itemize their taxes and then not take any deductions. Or only investing in regular stocks instead of tax deferred vehicles for retirement.
Still, based on the sources of their income, are you sure those structures were even available to them? Or are you really just saying they're not doing anything on a return unless 10/10 tax attorneys say it's kosher?
i'm saying the clintons paid a very high effective tax rate. i have heard tax attorneys/accountants talking on the television and the radio saying that it is basically impossible to pay that high of a rate without actively trying to. and yes, they could shelter much of their income if they wished. i'm no tax expert, but i know that much.
http://www.cnbc.com/2016/08/12/clinton-releases-latest-tax-returns-paid-rate-of-43.html
Post by: XocolateThundarr on September 27, 2016, 03:54:37 PM
As long as those vehicles are legal, it shouldn't matter.
it matters to some voters.
I have zero issues with people not paying any more taxes than they are legally obligated to. If you pay more than you have to, well, then you are indeed a dumbass.
Post by: sys on September 27, 2016, 03:57:11 PM
@Sys, I assume I am in that group simply due to our money discussion? I mean, I dislike her greatly, but I think it is for decent, non-ignorant reasons. My only shot at the Clinton Foundation was based on an actual article I read and not on my general dislike of Hill.
i've seen you make irrationally negative and/or erroneous comments about clinton, which along with your outsized hatred of her marks your clintonophibia. i don't have an example at hand, but i'll try to flag the next one i notice.
Post by: sys on September 27, 2016, 03:59:11 PM
I have zero issues with people not paying any more taxes than they are legally obligated to. If you pay more than you have to, well, then you are indeed a dumbass.
a candidate's tax rate isn't high on my list of issues either, but people can pick their own issues, you know? i don't agree that a candidate forgoing some income to make themselves marginally more electable is stupid.
Post by: Trim on September 27, 2016, 04:01:35 PM
Post by: CNS on September 27, 2016, 04:02:20 PM
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Post by: chum1 on September 27, 2016, 04:09:21 PM
It will be interesting to see if Don is going to come better prepared for the next debate. I would love it if he actually discussed some policy. It would be interesting to see him mention an actual detail and see how his folks react.
He's incapable. Honestly.
Post by: catastrophe on September 27, 2016, 04:19:06 PM
It will be interesting to see if Don is going to come better prepared for the next debate. I would love it if he actually discussed some policy. It would be interesting to see him mention an actual detail and see how his folks react.
He tried it and sounded moderately competent on trade (Hillary wasn't any more specific). I think there are just very low limits as to how much he can keep that up.
Trump seems like a genius the way he's able to appeal to crowds and generate free publicity, but I just think he's a natural at it and otherwise really stupid.
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on September 27, 2016, 04:28:31 PM
Post by: _33 on September 27, 2016, 04:28:45 PM
Post by: sys on September 27, 2016, 04:29:46 PM
I wish one of the candidates were more pro-trade. Hillary was better before Bernie dragged her so far left.
yep.
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on September 27, 2016, 04:37:35 PM
tonight was an unmitigated disaster for trump.
How? He stayed on his message, there was nothing that happened tonight that will turn supporters away from him. I think he played himself at the very beginning when he was trying to justify Hilrod's accusation that he hasn't paid taxes, "THAT'S SMART!" wtf? His moronic ass supporters won't give two shits that he hasn't paid taxes when 99.999% of them has mumbled at some time something about their taxes going to food stamps and Obama Phones.
I'm really glad you and hillary pay more taxes than legally obligated. It's good for the country.
You think he's hiding income to meet his legal obligation?
What are you talking about? I assume he isn't under IRS investigation or Hills would have brought that up. The constant audits obviously can't find anything wrong with his returns. It's interesting that she does bring up questions about his returns that nobody outside the IRS should have access to.
I didn't say anything about IRS investigation. He said that his revenue was $600+ million. Maybe I'm wrong but to not pay any income tax on that much income requires some creative accounting that doesn't mesh with his message or constituency.
The IRS doesn't allow "creative accounting" during audits. I'm sure his accountants are very good and know the relevant tax codes well. Income doesn't necessarily mean that money goes into your pocket if your a business owner. You can sink 100% back into your company(s) if you want.
I understand you believe 100% of his constituency are complete morons and don't understand this, but most successful business owners should be a very large part of that constituency, and they get it.
Stop lecturing me about the IRS and audits. You are intentionally dodging the larger point. What percentage of Trump voters, including Trump himself, would pitch a crap fit if any other politician not only didn't pay income tax but brag about not paying income tax?
I honestly don't believe him when he insinuates that he didn't pay any taxes, of course he has, just toying with hillary's conjecture. And, to answer your question, I don't think it matters to any of his supporters one bit about his taxes because he isn't a politician getting rich off his position in government. He actually contributes to the economy by making things and employing people. As much as his personality grates on my soul, you can't deny his business acumen.
Post by: sys on September 27, 2016, 04:42:00 PM
As much as his personality grates on my soul, you can't deny his business acumen.
it's very easy to, actually. he lies about his personal wealth, but even generous estimates of his holdings are well short of what he'd have if he'd have just invested his inheritance in the stock market and let better businessmen generate returns on his capital.
Post by: star seed 7 on September 27, 2016, 04:51:18 PM
Post by: sys on September 27, 2016, 04:53:17 PM
It will be interesting to see if Don is going to come better prepared for the next debate. I would love it if he actually discussed some policy. It would be interesting to see him mention an actual detail and see how his folks react.
He's incapable. Honestly.
he might do better in a shorter debate. he doesn't have stamina to participate in these longer ones.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 27, 2016, 05:23:59 PM
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on September 27, 2016, 05:26:26 PM
Seems pretty rough ridin' shady to me, particularly given her role as SoS.
I've actually not seen anything on trump other than the rent he's charging his campaign, which is egregious but a microfraction of the dollars the Clintons have taken from their foundation.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 27, 2016, 05:31:07 PM
Maybe I'm conflating the Clinton Foundation with some other shady psuedo-charitable Clinton deal, but didnt the NYT write a rather scathing expose linking foreign arms deals with unsavory characters and donations to the foundation? Also, didn't the Clintons accept absurd speaking fees from the Foundation (like $500k a pop)?
Seems pretty rough ridin' shady to me, particularly given her role as SoS.
I've actually not seen anything on trump other than the rent he's charging his campaign, which is egregious but a microfraction of the dollars the Clintons have taken from their foundation.
All you need to know is that the Clinton's and the CF took money from and owe political favors to the worst people on the planet.
There's a reason why the FBI tried to investigate the CF 3 times.
Post by: MakeItRain on September 27, 2016, 05:42:50 PM
Wait, what? How did I get in that group, I've never been critical of the Clinton Foundation?
you're a weirdo clintonophobe, believing things about her that have no basis in fact. last night, for example, you were irate that cnn used the complete lack of evidence that clinton had ever engaged in birtherism to excuse her of having been a birther. goddamn mainstream media.
No. She had surrogates that absolutely questioned Barack Obama's citizenship status, or his "otherness." That is a fact, confirmed by Reggie Love. The Hillary spokesperson on CNN denied Trump's false claim that "Hillary started the birther movement."
Post by: chum1 on September 27, 2016, 05:46:23 PM
It will be interesting to see if Don is going to come better prepared for the next debate. I would love it if he actually discussed some policy. It would be interesting to see him mention an actual detail and see how his folks react.
He's incapable. Honestly.
he might do better in a shorter debate. he doesn't have stamina to participate in these longer ones.
I think the first 30 minutes of the debate are as good as it gets for him. Let's grant that he can do a sufficient job of staying on message and avoiding all of his bad personality traits. He still doesn't retain very much info, has poor recall of the info he does learn, often doesn't make his meaning clear, skips logical steps, and erratically jumps from one topic to another.
But, yeah, it was pretty hilarious how he delivered his canned stamina charge against her a while after he had OBVIOUSLY hit the wall himself.
Post by: sys on September 27, 2016, 06:00:25 PM
No. She had surrogates that absolutely questioned Barack Obama's citizenship status, or his "otherness." That is a fact, confirmed by Reggie Love. The Hillary spokesperson on CNN denied Trump's false claim that "Hillary started the birther movement."
it's just a shame there was no media around eight years ago to document clinton's or the clinton campaign's birtherism. oth, if we had had a media back then perhaps the message would have disseminated and clinton might have won that primary. kind of a double-edge alternate history, i guess.
Post by: _33 on September 27, 2016, 06:10:44 PM
Post by: chum1 on September 27, 2016, 06:14:00 PM
https://twitter.com/alivitali/status/779335274404786177
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on September 27, 2016, 06:35:01 PM
As much as his personality grates on my soul, you can't deny his business acumen.
it's very easy to, actually. he lies about his personal wealth, but even generous estimates of his holdings are well short of what he'd have if he'd have just invested his inheritance in the stock market and let better businessmen generate returns on his capital.
I have respect for those that risk their money making things and hiring people. Nothing against pure wall street investors, but they're more like leaches than business people.
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on September 27, 2016, 06:36:45 PM
I know I have tons of respect for developers that refuse to pay contractors. Also respect the hell out of businessmen that are blacklisted from American banks because he doesn't pay back loans.
This crap happens every day and there is always more to the story.
Post by: chum1 on September 27, 2016, 06:42:22 PM
As much as his personality grates on my soul, you can't deny his business acumen.
it's very easy to, actually. he lies about his personal wealth, but even generous estimates of his holdings are well short of what he'd have if he'd have just invested his inheritance in the stock market and let better businessmen generate returns on his capital.
I have respect for those that risk their money making things and hiring people. Nothing against pure wall street investors, but they're more like leaches than business people.
Great! But the issue wasn't who JD repects. It was how good of a businessman is Trump. And he's pretty dreadful.
Post by: star seed 7 on September 27, 2016, 07:16:50 PM
I know I have tons of respect for developers that refuse to pay contractors. Also respect the hell out of businessmen that are blacklisted from American banks because he doesn't pay back loans.
This crap happens every day and there is always more to the story.
Happens everyday to pieces of human garbage
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on September 27, 2016, 07:37:09 PM
I know I have tons of respect for developers that refuse to pay contractors. Also respect the hell out of businessmen that are blacklisted from American banks because he doesn't pay back loans.
To be fair, when you're a developer, you're going to come across a LOT of shitty contractors. You're going to get in disputes with contractors who either do a crap job or otherwise try to screw you over. There's a lot of things to criticize Trump for. The anecdotes about him not paying so and so on a golf course project shouldn't even make the list.
Post by: star seed 7 on September 27, 2016, 07:39:59 PM
Post by: Spracne on September 27, 2016, 07:43:59 PM
Post by: gatoveintisiete on September 27, 2016, 07:45:48 PM
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Post by: star seed 7 on September 27, 2016, 07:59:25 PM
Post by: gatoveintisiete on September 27, 2016, 08:00:31 PM
At least with Clinton there is an existing record for each of those matters that reasonable people can examine and from which they can draw their own conclusions. This contractor business is meaningless without the actual facts, and a willingness to draw conclusions in the absence of such facts both betrays your credibility and exposes bias. Either that, or stupidity.
Well said
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on September 27, 2016, 08:30:59 PM
At least with Clinton there is an existing record for each of those matters that reasonable people can examine and from which they can draw their own conclusions. This contractor business is meaningless without the actual facts, and a willingness to draw conclusions in the absence of such facts both betrays your credibility and exposes bias. Either that, or stupidity.
These are the same people denying trump has been succesful in business, so yeah, lots of bias and stupidity. Dare we call them Trumpophobes? :ohno:
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on September 27, 2016, 08:37:05 PM
It's refreshing to know that the three most important things to Democrats right now are 1) nuclear war, 2) russia, and 3) who called who a mean name. 1&2 haven't been relevent since the Berlin Wall fell, and 3 is best reserved for resolution by primary school teacher. These people are adolescent and delusional sheep, doing what they're told. #thinkprogress
Is this some sort of commentary on how Trump is actually a democrat?
Donald Trump would launch nukes all over the world and is conspiring with russia to out the sham dnc and called a fat lady miss piggy, therefore i should be president
- hillary rough ridin' clinton
Post by: sys on September 27, 2016, 08:45:01 PM
I have respect for those that risk their money making things and hiring people. Nothing against pure wall street investors, but they're more like leaches than business people.
it sounds like what you respect is his attraction to risky behavior then, rather than his business acumen.
Post by: The Big Train on September 27, 2016, 08:51:37 PM
Post by: steve dave on September 27, 2016, 08:58:03 PM
This thread is just like the debate last night :flush:
Haha
Post by: MakeItRain on September 27, 2016, 09:10:42 PM
No. She had surrogates that absolutely questioned Barack Obama's citizenship status, or his "otherness." That is a fact, confirmed by Reggie Love. The Hillary spokesperson on CNN denied Trump's false claim that "Hillary started the birther movement."
it's just a shame there was no media around eight years ago to document clinton's or the clinton campaign's birtherism. oth, if we had had a media back then perhaps the message would have disseminated and clinton might have won that primary. kind of a double-edge alternate history, i guess.
You're changing the goalposts, I never accused Hillary and/or Bill Clinton of being birthers, Trump did that and I said he lied about that. There's plenty of documentation about Hillary supporters/surrogates questioning Obama's citizenship or how American he is. I'm not sure if your memory is bad or your inability to google is but claiming that this wasn't documented at the time is laughably false.
My issue with the Clinton campaign is that at the time, was the tone towards Obama, it led me to stop being a Hillary supporter. They weren't saying these things but they were out there, it is worth noting that Bill Clinton called the Obama campaign a joke and a farce. Hillary stayed out of the talk, didn't question his otherness, didn't stand up for him either. John McCain did do very publicly, Hillary didn't though. And now when Trump brings this up her campaign can play stupid, and have plausible deniability because she never did it. If she had any shred of integrity about her she'd say something to the effect of "while I take exception to your claim that I started the birther movement, I do regret the tone that surrounded the campaigns at the time."
Post by: MakeItRain on September 27, 2016, 09:14:35 PM
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2008/08/penn-strategy-memo-march-19-2008/37952/
Substantiated enough or no?
Post by: Trim on September 27, 2016, 09:30:14 PM
This thread is just like the debate last night :flush:
Haha
Debate and company was better.
Post by: treysolid on September 27, 2016, 09:59:29 PM
^ you think that guy gives a solitary eff about stiffing contractors who do good work, let alone shitty work?
c'mon. trump is the ultimate snake oil salesman. he has no intentions of doing anything but using the presidency to line his own pockets. he wants to eliminate the federal estate tax so he can give his kids a nice billion $+ gift. he has no intention of putting his assets in a blind trust while should he become president, which is a huge conflict of interest.
there have been hundreds of people and businesses that were not properly compensated for their work, along with 24 (!holy eff!) violations of the fair labor standards act.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2016/06/09/donald-trump-unpaid-bills-republican-president-laswuits/85297274/ (http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2016/06/09/donald-trump-unpaid-bills-republican-president-laswuits/85297274/)
Post by: stunted on September 27, 2016, 10:08:50 PM
DISHONEST!
Post by: star seed 7 on September 27, 2016, 10:15:21 PM
That hole in one story is bogus, was Alonzo Mourning's charity event. Just happened to be at one of Trump's courses.
DISHONEST!
then why did he settle a lawsuit over it and then pay the fine with trump foundation money?
Post by: stunted on September 27, 2016, 10:17:03 PM
That hole in one story is bogus, was Alonzo Mourning's charity event. Just happened to be at one of Trump's courses.
DISHONEST!
then why did he settle a lawsuit over it and then pay the fine with trump foundation money?
Had to cover for a lazy liberal looking for handouts (Alonzo)
Post by: star seed 7 on September 27, 2016, 10:18:09 PM
Post by: stunted on September 27, 2016, 10:19:27 PM
http://pagesix.com/2011/02/11/hole-in-one-ace-sues-for-1m/
Post by: sys on September 27, 2016, 10:19:52 PM
You're changing the goalposts. I never accused Hillary and/or Bill Clinton of being birthers.
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Well well well, Hillary surrogates on CNN straight lying about her people starting the birther movement. crap head and bigoted idiot, Jeffery Lord just 100% busted them on the lie and Hillrod fanboi, Van Jones, said "so what." Of course because Donald Trump is a stupid, lazy, liar, he got the story wrong too so the media does not have to confront the facts of this, only the bogus story he told on stage.
eff Hillary and her army of equivocators; I wouldn't vote for her if I had five votes.
i mean, i guess, if i squint really hard i can forensically recover a train of thought where you make a claim that clinton's campaign and supporters pressing the impression that obama was subtly less american than clinton was responsible in some way for spawning the birther movement. but you'd be asking readers to put more effort into parsing your thoughts that you seem to have put into outlining them.
There's plenty of documentation about Hillary supporters/surrogates questioning Obama's citizenship or how American he is.
nothing in your links supports that, nor has anything else i've seen.
My issue with the Clinton campaign is that at the time, was the tone towards Obama, it led me to stop being a Hillary supporter. They weren't saying these things but they were out there, it is worth noting that Bill Clinton called the Obama campaign a joke and a farce. Hillary stayed out of the talk, didn't question his otherness, didn't stand up for him either. John McCain did do very publicly, Hillary didn't though. And now when Trump brings this up her campaign can play stupid, and have plausible deniability because she never did it. If she had any shred of integrity about her she'd say something to the effect of "while I take exception to your claim that I started the birther movement, I do regret the tone that surrounded the campaigns at the time."
that's all completely fair (afaik). it is possible to criticize her based on unexaggerated facts. it just seems to be very hard for clintonophobes to restrict themselves to that standard.
Post by: bucket on September 27, 2016, 10:26:17 PM
4 real tho
http://pagesix.com/2011/02/11/hole-in-one-ace-sues-for-1m/
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/trump-258k-charity-settle-suits-businesses-article-1.2799475
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Eventually, Trump’s club and Greenberg settled the case, with the company agreeing to donate $158,000 to a charity chosen by Greenberg, which he later decided would be the Martin Greenberg Foundation.
The money given to Greenberg’s charity, however, came from the Donald J. Trump Foundation, tax forms for the mogul’s charity from 2012 show.
Post by: renocat on September 27, 2016, 10:27:29 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on September 27, 2016, 10:30:09 PM
nothing in your links supports that, nor has anything else i've seen.
What? This is some serious staning you're doing. Please spin this
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But he also called Obama "unelectable except perhaps against Attila the Hun," and wrote, "I cannot imagine America electing a president during a time of war who is not at his center fundamentally American in his thinking and in his values." Penn proposed targeting Obama's "lack of American roots."
Post by: bucket on September 27, 2016, 10:33:38 PM
4 real tho
http://pagesix.com/2011/02/11/hole-in-one-ace-sues-for-1m/
Do you read page six a lot? The top headlines on their website tonight are:
"'Very Drunk' Jimmy Fallon dances to 90's Tunes All Night" :lol:
and
"Warren Beatty Has Not Slept with 12,775 Women" :fatty:
Post by: sys on September 27, 2016, 10:34:20 PM
Post by: sys on September 27, 2016, 10:46:41 PM
nothing in your links supports that, nor has anything else i've seen.
What? This is some serious staning you're doing. Please spin thisQuoteBut he also called Obama "unelectable except perhaps against Attila the Hun," and wrote, "I cannot imagine America electing a president during a time of war who is not at his center fundamentally American in his thinking and in his values." Penn proposed targeting Obama's "lack of American roots."
that memo does not in any way question obama's citzenship. it discusses whether there might be political advantage to be gained in highlighting obama's multicultural family and his childhood in indonesia (e.g. factually non-american aspects of his "roots"). this is explicitly identity politics, which i was critical of during the conventions - that what matters is not just the ideas and policies that obama espoused, but his background and group identity, so i'm glad that the memo writer was wrong and that americans chose obama's ideas (or less hopefully, that they simply preferred obama's identity to clinton's).
Post by: MakeItRain on September 27, 2016, 11:14:16 PM
nothing in your links supports that, nor has anything else i've seen.
What? This is some serious staning you're doing. Please spin thisQuoteBut he also called Obama "unelectable except perhaps against Attila the Hun," and wrote, "I cannot imagine America electing a president during a time of war who is not at his center fundamentally American in his thinking and in his values." Penn proposed targeting Obama's "lack of American roots."
that memo does not in any way question obama's citzenship. it discusses whether there might be political advantage to be gained in highlighting obama's multicultural family and his childhood in indonesia (e.g. factually non-american aspects of his "roots"). this is explicitly identity politics, which i was critical of during the conventions - that what matters is not just the ideas and policies that obama espoused, but his background and group identity, so i'm glad that the memo writer was wrong and that americans chose obama's ideas (or less hopefully, that they simply preferred obama's identity to clinton's).
That's fair but they absolutely knew that opening that door as a strategy meant for the masses would not produce conversation with the nuance that you explored. The birther stuff was started by some loony republicans in the early spring of 2008 and then picked up by Hillary supporters a month later. The birther stuff and the multiculturalism as a potential weakness are cards played from the same deck attempting to do the same thing. Clinton didn't say Obama was born in Kenya but she, like McCain, had plenty of chances to get people to fall back and she didn't because she needed the votes.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on September 27, 2016, 11:29:46 PM
Post by: gatoveintisiete on September 27, 2016, 11:53:51 PM
Post by: chum1 on September 28, 2016, 09:45:27 AM
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on September 28, 2016, 09:46:23 AM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 28, 2016, 10:21:49 AM
Sad
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on September 28, 2016, 10:24:09 AM
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“Both are proven liars and it almost seems like they’re trying to debate who’s less racist.”
:rolleyes:
Post by: MakeItRain on September 28, 2016, 10:47:45 AM
There really is a disproportionality between the amount of dislike for Clinton and the amount that her actions would typically warrant. It's like the disproportionality between the amount of dislike for Obama and the amount that his actions would typically warrant. That's no surprise, though. We have plenty of sexism and racism in this country.
Yeah
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on September 28, 2016, 10:53:09 AM
Post by: catastrophe on September 28, 2016, 11:01:52 AM
I do believe she'd lose to most other republican candidates, but if you put her in against someone like Boehner, you'd see a lot less of the criticisms currently thrown at her because they'd also generally apply to him.
Post by: ChiComCat on September 28, 2016, 11:10:31 AM
Nobody hates Hillary because she's a female. They hate her because she's a criminal, a dirty "common named" politician, a liar, and she comes off like an ass hat.
There are absolutely people that think she is unqualified because she is female.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on September 28, 2016, 11:18:39 AM
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on September 28, 2016, 11:21:54 AM
Nobody hates Hillary because she's a female. They hate her because she's a criminal, a dirty "common named" politician, a liar, and she comes off like an ass hat.
There are absolutely people that think she is unqualified because she is female.
Sure, but there are probably just as many if not more people who would vote for her no matter what because she is female. It was the same thing with Obama. Both viewpoints are unfortunate. Even more unfortunate is that this corrupt, contemptible liar, who has somehow skated out of one scandal after another, may very well be rewarded with the presidency because the GOP didn't nominate one of any number of decent, qualified candidates in the primary.
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Post by: star seed 7 on September 28, 2016, 11:38:21 AM
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Post by: _33 on September 28, 2016, 11:57:23 AM
There really is a disproportionality between the amount of dislike for Clinton and the amount that her actions would typically warrant. It's like the disproportionality between the amount of dislike for Obama and the amount that his actions would typically warrant. That's no surprise, though. We have plenty of sexism and racism in this country.
Would a man version of Hillary even won the nomination? I have my doubts.
Post by: star seed 7 on September 28, 2016, 11:59:48 AM
Post by: DQ12 on September 28, 2016, 12:01:26 PM
everyone was against Palin because she's a woman :curse:And Fiorina and Bachman.
I think the fact that Clinton's a woman ranks below her being a Clinton, establishment, democrat, robotic, and unethical, on the "Reasons People Dislike Hillary" list.
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on September 28, 2016, 01:11:32 PM
There really is a disproportionality between the amount of dislike for Clinton and the amount that her actions would typically warrant. It's like the disproportionality between the amount of dislike for Obama and the amount that his actions would typically warrant. That's no surprise, though. We have plenty of sexism and racism in this country.
Would a man version of Hillary even won the nomination? I have my doubts.
If she were a man, we'd have probably locked him up by now.
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on September 28, 2016, 01:21:34 PM
in terms of its effect on future society, voting for obama solely because he is black is arguably still the most valid reason for voting for him.
Duh, in nearly 8 years as president being born 1/2 black remains his most significant accomplishment.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on September 28, 2016, 01:26:44 PM
everyone was against Palin because she's a woman :curse:And Fiorina and Bachman.
I think the fact that Clinton's a woman ranks below her being a Clinton, establishment, democrat, robotic, and unethical, on the "Reasons People Dislike Hillary" list.
I think the perception that she is robotic is mainly due to her being a woman - either because people have a double standard on how men/women should act and/or because of the things she has had to do to overcome the fact that she is a woman in a typical male dominated field.
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on September 28, 2016, 01:29:59 PM
everyone was against Palin because she's a woman :curse:And Fiorina and Bachman.
I think the fact that Clinton's a woman ranks below her being a Clinton, establishment, democrat, robotic, and unethical, on the "Reasons People Dislike Hillary" list.
I think the perception that she is robotic is mainly due to her being a woman - either because people have a double standard on how men/women should act and/or because of the things she has had to do to overcome the fact that she is a woman in a typical male dominated field.
Are there other female politicians that get criticized for being robotic? I haven't noticed that, but then again, "robotic" isn't a criticism I hear much regarding Clinton, either.
Post by: chum1 on September 28, 2016, 01:30:26 PM
There really is a disproportionality between the amount of dislike for Clinton and the amount that her actions would typically warrant. It's like the disproportionality between the amount of dislike for Obama and the amount that his actions would typically warrant. That's no surprise, though. We have plenty of sexism and racism in this country.
Would a man version of Hillary even won the nomination? I have my doubts.
I wasn't really even thinking about voting numbers. And I do understand why people would not have a positive impression of her. I just don't see mountains of justification for such widespread negative views, the second lowest favorability rating of all time.
Post by: chum1 on September 28, 2016, 01:33:04 PM
Post by: _33 on September 28, 2016, 01:36:21 PM
Post by: Skipper44 on September 28, 2016, 01:42:17 PM
Would a female version of Obama be elected Supreme ruler for life? Possiblyi think Michelle may give us that answer irl
Post by: treysolid on September 28, 2016, 01:43:26 PM
- direct quote from mitt romney upon hearing that hillary clinton is robotic.
Post by: DQ12 on September 28, 2016, 01:44:08 PM
I mean, people killed Rubio for being overly scripted too. And Cruz for being insanely unlikeable.everyone was against Palin because she's a woman :curse:And Fiorina and Bachman.
I think the fact that Clinton's a woman ranks below her being a Clinton, establishment, democrat, robotic, and unethical, on the "Reasons People Dislike Hillary" list.
I think the perception that she is robotic is mainly due to her being a woman - either because people have a double standard on how men/women should act and/or because of the things she has had to do to overcome the fact that she is a woman in a typical male dominated field.
I stand by my original point that her being a woman is probably not a significant factor among her detractors.
Post by: Trim on September 28, 2016, 01:53:50 PM
Would a female version of Obama be elected Supreme ruler for life? Possiblyi think Michelle may give us that answer irl
It'll be funny if Trump wins this year and then Michelle whips his ass in 4 years.
Post by: Skipper44 on September 28, 2016, 01:58:31 PM
it would likely put both Hills & Bill in the grave.Would a female version of Obama be elected Supreme ruler for life? Possiblyi think Michelle may give us that answer irl
It'll be funny if Trump wins this year and then Michelle whips his ass in 4 years.
Honestly, Michelle will win anytime she decides to run
Post by: _33 on September 28, 2016, 02:00:44 PM
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Post by: Trim on September 28, 2016, 02:16:57 PM
Honestly, Michelle will win anytime she decides to run
Yep. It's crazy that the democrats aren't exhausting every option to try to get her plugged in this year.
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on September 28, 2016, 02:53:00 PM
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TRUMP: I do want to say that I was just endorsed — and more are coming next week — it will be over 200 admirals, many of them here — admirals and generals endorsed me to lead this country. That just happened, and many more are coming. And I’m very proud of it.
In addition, I was just endorsed by ICE. They’ve never endorsed anybody before on immigration. I was just endorsed by ICE. I was just recently endorsed — 16,500 Border Patrol agents.
So when Secretary Clinton talks about this, I mean, I’ll take the admirals and I’ll take the generals any day over the political hacks that I see that have led our country so brilliantly over the last 10 years with their knowledge. OK? Because look at the mess that we’re in. Look at the mess that we’re in.
As far as the cyber, I agree to parts of what Secretary Clinton said. We should be better than anybody else, and perhaps we’re not. I don’t think anybody knows it was Russia that broke into the DNC. She’s saying Russia, Russia, Russia, but I don’t — maybe it was. I mean, it could be Russia, but it could also be China. It could also be lots of other people. It also could be somebody sitting on their bed that weighs 400 pounds, OK?
TRUMP: You don’t know who broke in to DNC.
But what did we learn with DNC? We learned that Bernie Sanders was taken advantage of by your people, by Debbie Wasserman Schultz. Look what happened to her. But Bernie Sanders was taken advantage of. That’s what we learned.
Now, whether that was Russia, whether that was China, whether it was another country, we don’t know, because the truth is, under President Obama we’ve lost control of things that we used to have control over.
We came in with the Internet, we came up with the Internet, and I think Secretary Clinton and myself would agree very much, when you look at what ISIS is doing with the Internet, they’re beating us at our own game. ISIS.
So we have to get very, very tough on cyber and cyber warfare. It is — it is a huge problem. I have a son. He’s 10 years old. He has computers. He is so good with these computers, it’s unbelievable. The security aspect of cyber is very, very tough. And maybe it’s hardly doable.
But I will say, we are not doing the job we should be doing. But that’s true throughout our whole governmental society. We have so many things that we have to do better, Lester, and certainly cyber is one of them.
There is nothing better than Donald talking about cyber.
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Post by: star seed 7 on September 28, 2016, 03:08:55 PM
I mean, people killed Rubio for being overly scripted too. And Cruz for being insanely unlikeable.everyone was against Palin because she's a woman :curse:And Fiorina and Bachman.
I think the fact that Clinton's a woman ranks below her being a Clinton, establishment, democrat, robotic, and unethical, on the "Reasons People Dislike Hillary" list.
I think the perception that she is robotic is mainly due to her being a woman - either because people have a double standard on how men/women should act and/or because of the things she has had to do to overcome the fact that she is a woman in a typical male dominated field.
I stand by my original point that her being a woman is probably not a significant factor among her detractors.
I agree
Post by: MakeItRain on September 28, 2016, 03:56:32 PM
She's also a product of the times. Congress has the lowest favorability rating of all time and it's still dropping. People's view of politics and politicians in general has never been lower.
This is the best point made in the thread.
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Post by: Rage Against the McKee on September 28, 2016, 06:44:38 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on September 28, 2016, 06:52:21 PM
The more the establishment people get voted out, the less congress functions and the lower their approval rating gets.
Essentially voting for "change" and "shake ups" is voting for status quo
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Post by: MakeItRain on September 28, 2016, 10:34:47 PM
If Hillary were honest, trustworthy, exhibited a modicum of competence in prior offices, hadn't serially betrayed her duty of loyalty and fair dealing while in public office, hadn't frequently destroyed evidence of her misconduct, and wasn't taking positions she opposed only a few years ago, she'd be a fabulous candidate 15 years ago.
Who the eff are you kidding? She could be the mutant second coming of Abe Lincoln, Henry Kissinger, and Thomas Jefferson and you'd still call her every name in the book because of that D next to her name.
Post by: SkinnyBenny on September 28, 2016, 10:40:48 PM
If Hillary were honest, trustworthy, exhibited a modicum of competence in prior offices, hadn't serially betrayed her duty of loyalty and fair dealing while in public office, hadn't frequently destroyed evidence of her misconduct, and wasn't taking positions she opposed only a few years ago, she'd be a fabulous candidate 15 years ago.
And yet, she's still going to break Trump's ankles on a juke and posterize him while he's in the middle of falling. Then she's gonna stand over him and leave the court and moonwalk straight into the White House.
Post by: stunted on September 28, 2016, 11:25:01 PM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on September 29, 2016, 08:38:54 AM
So then the question remains? Why is it that libs are so mad that people dislike Hillary?If Hillary were honest, trustworthy, exhibited a modicum of competence in prior offices, hadn't serially betrayed her duty of loyalty and fair dealing while in public office, hadn't frequently destroyed evidence of her misconduct, and wasn't taking positions she opposed only a few years ago, she'd be a fabulous candidate 15 years ago.
And yet, she's still going to break Trump's ankles on a juke and posterize him while he's in the middle of falling. Then she's gonna stand over him and leave the court and moonwalk straight into the White House.
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on September 29, 2016, 10:29:23 AM
If Hillary were honest, trustworthy, exhibited a modicum of competence in prior offices, hadn't serially betrayed her duty of loyalty and fair dealing while in public office, hadn't frequently destroyed evidence of her misconduct, and wasn't taking positions she opposed only a few years ago, she'd be a fabulous candidate 15 years ago.
Who the eff are you kidding? She could be the mutant second coming of Abe Lincoln, Henry Kissinger, and Thomas Jefferson and you'd still call her every name in the book because of that D next to her name.
You deny these things are true? Or just mad?
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on September 29, 2016, 10:35:58 AM
If Hillary were honest, trustworthy, exhibited a modicum of competence in prior offices, hadn't serially betrayed her duty of loyalty and fair dealing while in public office, hadn't frequently destroyed evidence of her misconduct, and wasn't taking positions she opposed only a few years ago, she'd be a fabulous candidate 15 years ago.
And yet, she's still going to break Trump's ankles on a juke and posterize him while he's in the middle of falling. Then she's gonna stand over him and leave the court and moonwalk straight into the White House.
Donald Trump does not give a eff about being president, has spent hundreds of millions of dollars less on his campaign, is an absurdly ridiculous candidate, and is polling dead even with her, with a real chance of winning weeks from the election.
It's a stunning indictment of how terrible Hillary is. The RNC blew it by not exercising a modicum of control over its primaries. Running 16 identical candidates out their, while Trump won delegates with 30% of the vote.
John McCain would mop the floor with Hilltard. Ted Cruz would mop the floor with Hilltard. Rick rough ridin' Santorum would mop the floor with Hilltard. It's obvious.
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on September 29, 2016, 11:13:53 AM
Post by: chum1 on September 29, 2016, 11:44:04 AM
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There's another important factor that will make it hard for Trump to turn things around: The second debate will use the "town hall" format. Questions will be asked by ordinary citizens in the audience. These debates are different from others in a number of ways, none of which work to Trump's advantage.http://theweek.com/articles/651768/why-donald-trump-even-worse-second-debate
First, we've seen in prior town hall debates that the questions tend to be more substantive, but less predictable.
...
Second, the presence of those citizens means that viewers will be watching to see how the candidates relate to them
Yeah, I think this format will be much harder for him. His best move is attacking Clinton. No way he figures out how to do that while addressing a concerned citizen.
So, there will definitely be a question from a Muslim, right?
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Post by: star seed 7 on October 03, 2016, 11:27:14 AM
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/298899-giuliani-isnt-a-man-with-this-kind-of-economic-genius
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"Don’t you think a man who has this kind of economic genius is a lot better for the United States than a woman?" Giuliani then asked. The phrasing raised eyebrows, especially given the timing.
Post by: gatoveintisiete on October 09, 2016, 07:56:22 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on October 09, 2016, 08:06:25 PM
Post by: sys on October 09, 2016, 08:08:09 PM
I'm glad she didn't shake his hand
yes, good move.
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Post by: star seed 7 on October 09, 2016, 08:17:01 PM
Donald is a mess
He seriously looks like he's about to cry
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Post by: CNS on October 09, 2016, 08:40:36 PM
WTF does that even mean?
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Post by: star seed 7 on October 09, 2016, 08:40:52 PM
If he could just focus on a line of thought, he'd crush her. He jumps from point to point without finishing.
No he wouldn't
Post by: IPA4Me on October 09, 2016, 08:41:28 PM
Barry did. She's not strong.If he could just focus on a line of thought, he'd crush her. He jumps from point to point without finishing.
No he wouldn't
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on October 09, 2016, 08:42:21 PM
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Post by: star seed 7 on October 09, 2016, 08:45:26 PM
Barry did. She's not strong.If he could just focus on a line of thought, he'd crush her. He jumps from point to point without finishing.
No he wouldn't
You just proved my point.
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on October 09, 2016, 08:46:15 PM
Post by: gatoveintisiete on October 09, 2016, 08:47:03 PM
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on October 09, 2016, 08:47:25 PM
"We're going to help ppl who can't afford insurance because we are going to protect them..."
WTF does that even mean?
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She basically said the same thing, no specifics.
Post by: sys on October 09, 2016, 08:49:26 PM
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on October 09, 2016, 08:49:39 PM
Her retort is so dumb
Post by: stunted on October 09, 2016, 08:49:53 PM
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on October 09, 2016, 08:50:34 PM
:lol:
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That's the funniest things I've ever seen in a debate. "Honest Abe" "Ridiculous "
Post by: sys on October 09, 2016, 08:54:28 PM
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Post by: bucket on October 09, 2016, 09:05:05 PM
wtf is he doing now? walking around her like some deranged cat.
:eek:
Post by: star seed 7 on October 09, 2016, 09:05:19 PM
hey kat kid, trump is admitting that a lot of the 900+ million loss was depreciation.
And it's great! He loves depreciation!
Post by: stunted on October 09, 2016, 09:09:19 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on October 09, 2016, 09:11:56 PM
Why is this blonde bimbo about to cry everytime he speaks?
Take it easy, the Donald has had a rough few days
Post by: gatoveintisiete on October 09, 2016, 09:14:13 PM
Why is this blonde bimbo about to cry everytime she speaks?
Her candidate is getting her box kicked in
(That's lockeroom talk, I'm embarrassed by it and have never kicked a box in)
Post by: sys on October 09, 2016, 09:15:07 PM
Post by: stunted on October 09, 2016, 09:15:20 PM
Why is this blonde bimbo about to cry everytime he speaks?
Take it easy, the Donald has had a rough few days
:cheers:
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Post by: gatoveintisiete on October 09, 2016, 09:22:43 PM
Post by: stunted on October 09, 2016, 09:23:27 PM
Jobs in, drugs out
Do Hillary's plan!
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Post by: CNS on October 09, 2016, 09:27:16 PM
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Post by: star seed 7 on October 09, 2016, 09:28:09 PM
What jobs? I heard a stat on the radio saying that 80% of the jobs lost in manufacturing since NAFTA signed have been lost to automation.
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Librul lies!
Post by: CNS on October 09, 2016, 09:28:25 PM
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Post by: MakeItRain on October 09, 2016, 09:29:11 PM
Post by: gatoveintisiete on October 09, 2016, 09:29:34 PM
Also, what would he do to ramp up the war on drugs that hasn't already been done? Simplicity for the simple. Hook, line, and sinker.
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Shut down the border
Post by: sys on October 09, 2016, 09:29:56 PM
Post by: CNS on October 09, 2016, 09:30:13 PM
Pence drop out related
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Post by: CNS on October 09, 2016, 09:31:24 PM
Also, what would he do to ramp up the war on drugs that hasn't already been done? Simplicity for the simple. Hook, line, and sinker.
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Shut down the border
You think drugs only cross one land boarder? You think they aren't made and grown here?
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Post by: sys on October 09, 2016, 09:31:43 PM
https://twitter.com/funder/status/785292939647934465
that would be a really stupid move for him (i think). he's already tainted with trumpism for nevertrumpers, he'd just make himself a judas to trumpites as well.
Post by: MakeItRain on October 09, 2016, 09:32:08 PM
Post by: stunted on October 09, 2016, 09:33:13 PM
Hillary was awful tonight but its absolutely understandable. He clearly came in ready to scorch the earth, even taking out his running mate, and she had no idea how to handle it, she clearly was rattled.
:love: :love: :love:
Post by: gatoveintisiete on October 09, 2016, 09:33:36 PM
Also, what would he do to ramp up the war on drugs that hasn't already been done? Simplicity for the simple. Hook, line, and sinker.
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Shut down the border
You think drugs only cross one land boarder? You think they aren't made and grown here?
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You have heard of Mexican drug cartels right?
Post by: Dugout DickStone on October 09, 2016, 09:34:19 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on October 09, 2016, 09:34:41 PM
Ken Bone :fatty:
Former Washington State basketball coach, 0-2 against the Cats with Klay Thompson.
Post by: stunted on October 09, 2016, 09:35:12 PM
Post by: sys on October 09, 2016, 09:35:42 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on October 09, 2016, 09:36:43 PM
Hillary was awful tonight but its absolutely understandable. He clearly came in ready to scorch the earth, even taking out his running mate, and she had no idea how to handle it, she clearly was rattled.
:love: :love: :love:
Congrats to your guy on reaching a record new low in political discourse lows.
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on October 09, 2016, 09:39:52 PM
-PBS Newshour
Post by: sys on October 09, 2016, 09:40:14 PM
neither candidate helped themselves, although just surviving the debate is good for trump vs expectations.
Post by: gatoveintisiete on October 09, 2016, 09:42:00 PM
Post by: stunted on October 09, 2016, 09:43:50 PM
- NBC
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on October 09, 2016, 09:46:18 PM
-PBS NEWS HOUR
Post by: MakeItRain on October 09, 2016, 09:47:59 PM
Post by: stunted on October 09, 2016, 09:48:32 PM
Which Trump proceeded to destroy.
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on October 09, 2016, 09:49:37 PM
Why was that dude breathing like that, he sounded like he was dying?
Deviated septum, probably.
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Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 09, 2016, 09:50:34 PM
https://twitter.com/funder/status/785292939647934465
that would be a really stupid move for him (i think). he's already tainted with trumpism for nevertrumpers, he'd just make himself a judas to trumpites as well.
He has republicans asking him to leave the ticket, telling him Trump would have no choice but to drop out and that he would be the new candidate. Trump would never drop out, though.
Post by: gatoveintisiete on October 09, 2016, 09:50:41 PM
https://twitter.com/funder/status/785292939647934465
that would be a really stupid move for him (i think). he's already tainted with trumpism for nevertrumpers, he'd just make himself a judas to trumpites as well.
The original post was horsehit sys, disregard
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Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on October 09, 2016, 09:51:57 PM
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on October 09, 2016, 09:53:02 PM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 09, 2016, 09:54:24 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on October 09, 2016, 09:56:40 PM
It's fun to fantasize about Donald dropping out of the election, though.
It would be interesting to see what would happen, but I prefer he stays in.
Pence leaving would be great fun tho
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on October 09, 2016, 09:57:25 PM
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on October 09, 2016, 09:58:35 PM
https://twitter.com/funder/status/785292939647934465
that would be a really stupid move for him (i think). he's already tainted with trumpism for nevertrumpers, he'd just make himself a judas to trumpites as well.
The original post was horsehit sys, disregard
Clearly isis is trying to swing the election to their home girl hilltard
Post by: stunted on October 09, 2016, 10:10:40 PM
3D chess folks. Not 2D, unless you're talking about Ivanka's dub deuces :fatty:
Post by: stunted on October 09, 2016, 10:19:09 PM
What a troll :lol:
Post by: OK_Cat on October 09, 2016, 10:20:58 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on October 09, 2016, 10:22:10 PM
We are a month away and I'm still waiting to hear one of trump's policies. Just one. Anyone?
Sneak attack isis
Post by: DQ12 on October 09, 2016, 10:23:36 PM
Post by: stunted on October 09, 2016, 10:24:26 PM
Post by: gatoveintisiete on October 09, 2016, 10:27:50 PM
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on October 09, 2016, 10:29:17 PM
Post by: gatoveintisiete on October 09, 2016, 10:33:24 PM
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on October 09, 2016, 10:36:23 PM
Donald should keep tweeting his adjective laden policies, and shame anyone who criticizes twitter as a modern day medium of communication
Post by: stunted on October 09, 2016, 11:06:53 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on October 09, 2016, 11:22:18 PM
Post by: SdK on October 09, 2016, 11:27:18 PM
Post by: SdK on October 09, 2016, 11:27:38 PM
Post by: gatoveintisiet on October 09, 2016, 11:28:25 PM
What is the mood?
So adorable
Post by: OK_Cat on October 09, 2016, 11:39:02 PM
Post by: bones129 on October 09, 2016, 11:57:36 PM
Still waiting on a Trump policy
Agreed. :impatient:
Post by: stunted on October 10, 2016, 12:16:03 AM
policies don't win elections, even cuntler has taking a page from the trump book of persuasion. and doing a great job at it. however one is a natural alpha persuader, the other is a robot/lizard with an elite team of people guiding her every move.
more posts with zingers, less about boring policies plz.
Post by: stunted on October 10, 2016, 12:24:46 AM
Does anyone believe CNN's poll? Mood on this forum says otherwise
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqCIub3SmCI
:lol: :lol: :lol:
cnn has lost all credibility
Post by: chum1 on October 10, 2016, 12:26:50 AM
Post by: sys on October 10, 2016, 02:04:35 AM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/heres-a-supercut-of-trump-lurking-behind-clinton-during-the-debate_us_57fafc38e4b068ecb5df9630?ncid=engmodushpmg00000004
https://twitter.com/CNN/status/785363332685500416
Post by: sys on October 10, 2016, 02:13:24 AM
Post by: sys on October 10, 2016, 02:17:30 AM
Post by: gatoveintisiete on October 10, 2016, 08:17:02 AM
Post by: steve dave on October 10, 2016, 08:48:50 AM
Post by: Trim on October 10, 2016, 08:53:31 AM
Post by: nicname on October 10, 2016, 08:53:56 AM
did not watch
:thumbs:
also
will not vote
Post by: catastrophe on October 10, 2016, 09:24:10 AM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 10, 2016, 09:26:26 AM
Did not read this thread, but what a disaster of a debate. Hillary obviously won, but probably would have done even better if she said nothing and just let raging dumpster fire Trump meltdown on stage.
Trump won because he delivered every conservative radio personalty's wet dream. He won't win the election, but he never was going to.
Post by: catastrophe on October 10, 2016, 09:27:54 AM
the huffpo vid is better, but i don't know how to embed it.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/heres-a-supercut-of-trump-lurking-behind-clinton-during-the-debate_us_57fafc38e4b068ecb5df9630?ncid=engmodushpmg00000004
https://twitter.com/CNN/status/785363332685500416
I wonder if these were written by people that had not seen any town hall debates before. Some candidate usually tries something like this to rattle their opponent. I distinctly remember Romney doing it last election. Of course, it was awkward then too.
Post by: Cire on October 10, 2016, 10:18:02 AM
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on October 10, 2016, 10:23:34 AM
Still waiting on a Trump policy
Agreed. :impatient:
Public, private or both?
Post by: stunted on October 10, 2016, 10:40:13 AM
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fkpf48sq.png&hash=36b298f13afdfe67040f352e993da4b3390813b2)
Post by: OK_Cat on October 10, 2016, 10:52:22 AM
Still waiting on a Trump policy
Agreed. :impatient:
Public, private or both?
So you don't know of any Trump policies, either? Gotcha.
Post by: stunted on October 10, 2016, 11:11:13 AM
Post by: Dugout DickStone on October 10, 2016, 11:20:05 AM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 10, 2016, 11:20:30 AM
Post by: CNS on October 10, 2016, 12:25:31 PM
Post by: treysolid on October 10, 2016, 01:10:49 PM
hugely lower taxes
yeah. that's his only policy with any details. unfortunately, it's Brownback/Jindal turned up to 11.
Post by: 8manpick on October 10, 2016, 01:25:35 PM
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on October 10, 2016, 01:59:46 PM
Definitely confirmed that he uses "bigly" as a word yesterday
This is like when W used the word "decider" and the libs laughed until they found out it's a proper word.
Post by: CNS on October 10, 2016, 02:07:28 PM
- Silly Libs
Post by: gatoveintisiete on October 10, 2016, 02:10:26 PM
Post by: Trim on October 10, 2016, 06:06:01 PM
Post by: stunted on October 10, 2016, 07:26:05 PM
Does anyone believe CNN's poll? Mood on this forum says otherwise
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqCIub3SmCI
:lol: :lol: :lol:
cnn has lost all credibility
https://twitter.com/TeamTrump/status/785555525559738368
this is all so very gross
Post by: sys on October 10, 2016, 07:46:05 PM
Post by: stunted on October 10, 2016, 07:56:01 PM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 10, 2016, 08:53:21 PM
http://www.luckytv.nl/time-of-my-life/
That's great.
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on October 12, 2016, 07:43:02 AM
https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/786176282706845697
Post by: CNS on October 12, 2016, 07:45:09 AM
Sent from my SM-G900T using Tapatalk
Post by: chum1 on October 12, 2016, 07:51:26 AM
Post by: SdK on October 12, 2016, 07:56:55 AM
These wikileaks really confirm how superior Clinton is to Trump as a politician.Exactly.
Post by: Dugout DickStone on October 12, 2016, 10:23:08 AM
Post by: CNS on October 12, 2016, 10:48:21 AM
Post by: MakeItRain on October 12, 2016, 11:47:56 AM
Post by: chum1 on October 14, 2016, 05:37:25 PM
Quote
Ken Bone Forgot to Delete His Reddit Porn Comments, Said Trayvon Martin Killing Was 'Justified'
http://gizmodo.com/ken-bone-forgot-to-delete-his-porn-comments-1787780939
Post by: catastrophe on October 14, 2016, 05:44:45 PM
Regardless, they're presenting that all like it's some kind of dirt, but it's all pretty tame stuff.
Post by: star seed 7 on October 14, 2016, 05:49:33 PM
QuoteKen Bone Forgot to Delete His Reddit Porn Comments, Said Trayvon Martin Killing Was 'Justified'
http://gizmodo.com/ken-bone-forgot-to-delete-his-porn-comments-1787780939
What a shitty clickbait title
Post by: chum1 on October 14, 2016, 06:04:54 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on October 14, 2016, 06:27:10 PM
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on October 15, 2016, 08:39:53 AM
Post by: CNS on October 15, 2016, 09:56:33 AM
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Post by: MakeItRain on October 16, 2016, 01:36:03 AM
That entire media group is pretty much only read by Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) white men with 150+ hours of 2.0 gpa college credit and no degree.
I LOLed
Post by: star seed 7 on October 16, 2016, 01:41:05 AM
Post by: Trim on October 17, 2016, 09:58:24 AM
What if Trump buys a dozen prostitutes and takes them on stage with him to show he has female supporters?
Post by: catastrophe on October 17, 2016, 10:04:58 AM
Post by: Emo EMAW on October 18, 2016, 10:40:06 AM
Post by: SdK on October 18, 2016, 11:38:13 AM
Post by: gatoveintisiete on October 19, 2016, 11:13:03 PM
Post by: catastrophe on October 19, 2016, 11:20:38 PM
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on October 19, 2016, 11:37:38 PM
I'm gonna watch this for the first time at 12:00 on cnn, who do you think won and why?
Just more of a robotic hillary vs human trump. Memorization vs shoot from the hip. Trump wins again because he's a human being.
Post by: Institutional Control on October 20, 2016, 08:26:12 AM
Post by: star seed 7 on October 20, 2016, 08:30:50 AM
Whatever happened to the moderate jtmhtd?
It's a very very sad tale, believe me.
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 20, 2016, 08:34:08 AM
Whatever happened to the moderate jtmhtd?
He crossed Hillary.
Post by: ChiComCat on October 20, 2016, 08:42:05 AM
I'm gonna watch this for the first time at 12:00 on cnn, who do you think won and why?
Just more of a robotic hillary vs human trump. Memorization vs shoot from the hip. Trump wins again because he's a human being.
I was just thinking we needed a more "shoot from the hip" president
Post by: CNS on October 20, 2016, 09:51:09 AM
Post by: star seed 7 on October 20, 2016, 09:58:38 AM
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on October 20, 2016, 10:18:49 AM
Post by: Trim on October 20, 2016, 12:47:11 PM
Dax is having a great daxdown on twitter this morning :lol:
Lol at "this morning."
Post by: CNS on October 20, 2016, 12:54:05 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on October 20, 2016, 01:50:42 PM
Dax is having a great daxdown on twitter this morning :lol:
Just read it, lol. Is he still going to come in here and lie about being a Gary Johnson voter? Our guy dax appears to be ALL IN FOR DONALD!
Post by: steve dave on October 20, 2016, 01:51:24 PM
Dax is great. EMAW and a patriot.
agreed
Post by: stunted on October 20, 2016, 01:59:21 PM
I'm gonna watch this for the first time at 12:00 on cnn, who do you think won and why?
Trump won focus groups, even CNN I hear. So if those have him winning, them he really destroyed her. Haven't had time to look so feel free to fact check.
Post by: MakeItRain on October 20, 2016, 02:04:40 PM
I'm gonna watch this for the first time at 12:00 on cnn, who do you think won and why?
Trump won focus groups, even CNN I hear. So if those have him winning, them he really destroyed her. Haven't had time to look so feel free to fact check.
He didn't win CNN's focus group but I have no doubt he won Frank Luntz's group of "independents."
Post by: stunted on October 20, 2016, 02:50:16 PM
Post by: Canary on October 20, 2016, 02:55:32 PM
Who hasn't groped a lady or two? Prudes, the lot of you.Yes, your Honor. I am guilty of that with some variation as well. Not proud of all of it, but not prudish for the most part.
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on October 20, 2016, 05:42:40 PM
Whatever happened to the moderate jtmhtd?
I'm on an anti-hillary runaway train right now. I'll be fine after the election.
Post by: sys on October 20, 2016, 05:50:41 PM
Whatever happened to the moderate jtmhtd?
I'm on an anti-hillary runaway train right now. I'll be fine after the election.
a trump candidacy doesn't destroy character, it reveals it.
Post by: Tobias on October 20, 2016, 06:07:09 PM
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on October 20, 2016, 06:13:05 PM
Whatever happened to the moderate jtmhtd?
I'm on an anti-hillary runaway train right now. I'll be fine after the election.
a trump candidacy doesn't destroy character, it reveals it.
Yes. He brings out the worst in her.
Post by: MakeItRain on October 20, 2016, 08:18:12 PM
Seems he won 10-5 actually with undecideds. I still don't trust it tbh cause media :curse:
You shouldn't trust it because it isn't accurate. The count they took was 11-8 for HRC.
Post by: LickNeckey on June 15, 2017, 11:04:45 PM
It's truly sad that R's couldn't nominate someone decent.
for a moment i was afraid you weren't going to be able to suck it up and pick up the partisan banner for the orange one
ya done good Daxy ya done good