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Title: little kid sports
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on July 19, 2016, 02:34:49 PM
the absolute seriousness in which many adults my age take them is hilariously and sadly absurd. like, a bunch of 30-40 year old parents have all lost their collective god damn minds and live in a world where little kid sports define them and they are happy to risk actual adult friendships over it. it is absolutely dumbfounding. I'm talking about like 7 and 8 yr olds.



Title: Re: little kid sports
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on July 19, 2016, 02:36:45 PM
I don't get the notion that kids need to play sports nonstop.   I have buddies who have multiple games for each kid on a given day, one buddy with 2 kids (7 and 11) and they have sports EVERY day of the week.   It's ridiculous, for kids and parents.
Title: Re: little kid sports
Post by: steve dave on July 19, 2016, 02:39:31 PM
my three year old likes golf and gymnastics. seem like more of the non-crazy parent (not counting EMAW here Earl Woods) sports. hoping he stays the course.
Title: Re: little kid sports
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on July 19, 2016, 02:41:02 PM
I'm going to teach my kid to spit in opposing teams faces.
Title: Re: little kid sports
Post by: Asteriskhead on July 19, 2016, 02:41:03 PM
the absolute seriousness in which many adults my age take them is hilariously and sadly absurd. like, a bunch of 30-40 year old parents have all lost their collective god damn minds and live in a world where little kid sports define them and they are happy to risk actual adult friendships over it. it is absolutely dumbfounding. I'm talking about like 7 and 8 yr olds.

participation trophies are serious business.
Title: Re: little kid sports
Post by: star seed 7 on July 19, 2016, 02:41:45 PM
How does a 3 year old play golf?
Title: Re: little kid sports
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on July 19, 2016, 02:42:10 PM
my three year old likes golf and gymnastics. seem like more of the non-crazy parent (not counting EMAW here Earl Woods) sports. hoping he stays the course.

I would expect that at the highest levels, gymnastics probably has crazier parents than any other sport. Especially women's gymnastics, where olympians are in their early teens.
Title: Re: little kid sports
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on July 19, 2016, 02:42:27 PM
my three year old likes golf and gymnastics. seem like more of the non-crazy parent (not counting EMAW here Earl Woods) sports. hoping he stays the course.

if he gets involved in any kind of competitive sports play, it's going to blow your mind. I promise. it probably goes for things other than sports too like music and drama but my youngest is just starting to do those things so it's only a suspicion on my part. the sports stuff I'm sure about.
Title: Re: little kid sports
Post by: yoga-like_abana on July 19, 2016, 02:45:15 PM
baseball without a doubt is the most ridic. in this area. then way way way below that is football
Title: Re: little kid sports
Post by: michigancat on July 19, 2016, 02:46:05 PM
Most of my youth sports experiences have been pretty chill. Overall nice people and kids. Had an altercation with a crazy lady cop coach once but she was just crazy.
Title: Re: little kid sports
Post by: Kat Kid on July 19, 2016, 02:54:55 PM
my three year old likes golf and gymnastics. seem like more of the non-crazy parent (not counting EMAW here Earl Woods) sports. hoping he stays the course.

yep, no crazy parents there.
Title: Re: little kid sports
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on July 19, 2016, 02:57:28 PM
How does a 3 year old play golf?
Title: Re: little kid sports
Post by: wetwillie on July 19, 2016, 02:58:12 PM
Individual sports have the worst parents, t&p's SD
Title: Re: little kid sports
Post by: steve dave on July 19, 2016, 03:01:29 PM
How does a 3 year old play golf?

like any other person except shittier
Title: Re: little kid sports
Post by: Kat Kid on July 19, 2016, 03:01:59 PM
Individual sports have the worst parents, t&p's SD

maybe so, but who cares?  you don't have to engage with them nearly as much as you would with a team sport. 

Tennis parents, golf parents, swim parents, gymnastics parents are all much, much easier to deal with than a bad baseball/basketball/football parent because you don't have to carpool/associate/root with them if you really don't want to.
Title: Re: little kid sports
Post by: CNS on July 19, 2016, 03:06:14 PM
I don't get the notion that kids need to play sports nonstop.   I have buddies who have multiple games for each kid on a given day, one buddy with 2 kids (7 and 11) and they have sports EVERY day of the week.   It's ridiculous, for kids and parents.

We learned this lesson.  My son can't decide between soccer and baseball, fall or spring.  He wanted to play both.  So we did.  Won't do that again.  Game or practice 6 days a week. 

One sport at a time from now on. 

Others have that problem because they sign their kid up for competitive(and/or tournament) teams.  My daughter's non-competitive softball team played a team a few years ago that had a coach, whose sole responsibility was to pitch to the kids during the game(coach pitch league, obvsly).  They had a hitting coach and hitting practice every tues and thurs.  They had full team practices every Monday and Wednesdays and played games two days a week.  Their head coach was paid.  My daughter was 7 at that time.  Johnson County parents are by far the worst when it comes to this. 

A few of the girls that play on my daughter's volleyball team did something similar for volleyball.  Now they play something like 6 games a week on the weekend and practice three nights a week for a paid coach.  Also, the parents had to sign 2-yr contracts with the team.  My daughter was 10 when that first popped up.  The teams cost the parents btwn $1600 and 2,600 a season.  One of my daughter's best friends lost two teeth last season and the dentist thinks its because she was hit in the face with the volleyball too often. 

Serious sports parents are the worst.

Title: Re: little kid sports
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on July 19, 2016, 03:06:37 PM
baseball without a doubt is the most ridic. in this area. then way way way below that is football

oh man  :D
Title: Re: little kid sports
Post by: pissclams on July 19, 2016, 03:08:38 PM
kids shouldn't be playing football imo
and people, in general, do dumb things and act stupid.  this isn't limited to parents of children who play team sports.
Title: Re: little kid sports
Post by: Dugout DickStone on July 19, 2016, 03:11:46 PM
How does a 3 year old play golf?

like any other person except shittier

and not 18 holes
Title: Re: little kid sports
Post by: star seed 7 on July 19, 2016, 03:23:32 PM
How does a 3 year old play golf?

like any other person except shittier

and not 18 holes

This might be where I'm getting lost.  Do they have child size courses? Most 3yr olds can barely walk without tripping, let alone make contact with a ball and have it go in a general direction.

(obviously Lil sd is not your normal idiot 3yr old as well)
Title: Re: little kid sports
Post by: _33 on July 19, 2016, 04:04:06 PM
I meant to post this in my Tee Ball Grievances thread but last month my daughters 8&Under team lost in the 1st round of the post season tournament but then we had to play again because the other team was disqualified for playing a bunch of 9 year olds.  What kind of person?
Title: Re: little kid sports
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on July 19, 2016, 04:09:46 PM
How does a 3 year old play golf?

like any other person except shittier

and not 18 holes

This might be where I'm getting lost.  Do they have child size courses? Most 3yr olds can barely walk without tripping, let alone make contact with a ball and have it go in a general direction.

(obviously Lil sd is not your normal idiot 3yr old as well)

Is it a miniature golf course?
Title: Re: little kid sports
Post by: slobber on July 19, 2016, 04:20:43 PM
Have I ever told you guys how awesome dobberjr is at soccer?


Royals aren't gonna win 'em all
Title: Re: little kid sports
Post by: star seed 7 on July 19, 2016, 04:30:04 PM
I meant to post this in my Tee Ball Grievances thread but last month my daughters 8&Under team lost in the 1st round of the post season tournament but then we had to play again because the other team was disqualified for playing a bunch of 9 year olds.  What kind of person?

 :lol:
Title: Re: little kid sports
Post by: Tobias on July 19, 2016, 04:40:45 PM
tee ball birthers :ohno:
Title: Re: little kid sports
Post by: Skipper44 on July 19, 2016, 04:56:22 PM
baseball without a doubt is the most ridic. in this area. then way way way below that is football
yes, in SoJoCo it appears the typical rec team made up of kids from school falls apart by 4th grade  :frown:

and I agree that football may be the best at limiting the effect of parental influence - there isn't much substitute for god given size, speed or enthusiasm for physical contact.
Title: Re: little kid sports
Post by: Skipper44 on July 19, 2016, 04:57:13 PM
tee ball birthers :ohno:
we might need Steffy in here but redshirting isn't just for college these days
Title: Re: little kid sports
Post by: Pete on July 19, 2016, 05:21:24 PM
My kids are mostly the same age as Daris', but they l don't really like sports anymore.  My daughter's soccer career ended this summer and won't proceed into middle school.  My 8 year old will barely tolerate basketball, and doesn't like playing any other sport. However, He will whip your ass at open world type games (eg mine craft, Arc evolved thing, etc), should there ever be anything competitive in that area, but he hates most competitions too, so oh well, this thread doesn't apply to me anymore.
Title: Re: little kid sports
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on July 19, 2016, 05:24:13 PM
My kids are mostly the same age as Daris', but they l don't really like sports anymore.  My daughter's soccer career ended this summer and won't proceed into middle school.  My 8 year old will barely tolerate basketball, and doesn't like playing any other sport. However, He will whip your ass at open world type games (eg mine craft, Arc evolved thing, etc), should there ever be anything competitive in that area, but he hates most competitions too, so oh well, this thread doesn't apply to me anymore.

If I ever have kids, I hope they are like yours.
Title: Re: little kid sports
Post by: wetwillie on July 19, 2016, 06:24:37 PM
My kids are mostly the same age as Daris', but they l don't really like sports anymore.  My daughter's soccer career ended this summer and won't proceed into middle school.  My 8 year old will barely tolerate basketball, and doesn't like playing any other sport. However, He will whip your ass at open world type games (eg mine craft, Arc evolved thing, etc), should there ever be anything competitive in that area, but he hates most competitions too, so oh well, this thread doesn't apply to me anymore.

esports are just now starting to get traction, you might not be out of the woods yet.
Title: little kid sports
Post by: The Big Train on July 19, 2016, 06:26:29 PM
Pretty sure Ricky D and I talked about this very thing during our last encounter IIRC
Title: Re: little kid sports
Post by: star seed 7 on July 19, 2016, 06:27:55 PM
My kids are mostly the same age as Daris', but they l don't really like sports anymore.  My daughter's soccer career ended this summer and won't proceed into middle school.  My 8 year old will barely tolerate basketball, and doesn't like playing any other sport. However, He will whip your ass at open world type games (eg mine craft, Arc evolved thing, etc), should there ever be anything competitive in that area, but he hates most competitions too, so oh well, this thread doesn't apply to me anymore.

Starcraft or league of legends
Title: Re: little kid sports
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on July 19, 2016, 10:26:58 PM
Pretty sure Ricky D and I talked about this very thing during our last encounter IIRC

Maybe. I have two kids. One loves the crap out of sports and plays them and the other doesn't and doesn't. I had a conversation today with an adult whose kid was cut from a baseball team by a pretty close friend of theirs. That kid was 7. The adults seriously won't be friends anymore because of this. It's very lol.

-hey Brian we are cutting Hayden. Want to come over for burgers this weekend?
-uh, what???

Title: little kid sports
Post by: Tobias on July 19, 2016, 10:31:56 PM
Pretty sure Ricky D and I talked about this very thing during our last encounter IIRC

that conversation is how you know you're not talking to FRD
Title: Re: little kid sports
Post by: Emo EMAW on July 20, 2016, 09:42:00 AM
Both my sister and I played competitive sports growing up, the kinds where we were attending regional or national tournaments most weekends (driving or getting on airplanes).  I was an all-state athlete (Kansas bleh) and got some "offers" to small private schools.  My sister was much better and got full ride offers from every top 25 program in the country and tons others.  Of course my folks spent a lot of money on both of us, but they viewed it as an investment because we could get our college education paid for.  Long story short, I think we both ended up hating playing the actual sports we played.  My sister had to go pro in something other than sports and with her shitty free education she has struggled in the real world. 

So, parents, just relax.  Your kids should learn commitment and teamwork in sports, but it should be fun, and when it stops being fun go do something else. 

My (current) theory:  I'd like my kids to do some team sports and some individual sports, and then also some activities where success is not objectively measured and the rules not so objectively defined (like fishing, hunting, photography, something like that).
Title: Re: little kid sports
Post by: TCUHornedFrog on July 20, 2016, 10:02:43 AM
Overly involved sports parents are the worst especially the ones that do it with kids under 10.  A metric eff ton of those kids are burned out by the time they are 12 and never want to play anymore.

Also, a lot of them are the cult of parenthood people and those people suck.  Your child isn't a someone who makes me uncomfortable.  There are over 7 billion people on the planet.  No one but you really cares about what they do. 
Title: Re: little kid sports
Post by: 8manpick on July 20, 2016, 10:28:55 AM
There is a place for kids to play competitive sports without their parents being crazy people, but it's pretty rare. I probably played 50-80 baseball games every year from 4th grade through junior year of HS, plus probably 8 basketball tournaments + a league a year from 5th-8th grade and three sports in high school.  It was only because I wanted to though, not being pushed into it. I just loved sports more than anything else, and my parents gave me the opportunity to compete as much as I wanted. They didn't let me play organized sports until summer after 2nd grade because they recognized how dumb super little kids sports were.
Title: Re: little kid sports
Post by: _33 on July 20, 2016, 11:37:48 AM
Guys I have another kind of funny story about people taking 8&Under coach pitch softball very seriously.  Well there was a controversial call while the other team was batting (I won't get into the specifics of it because why in the world would I know or care). After the inning the other teams coach brought the rule book to the 17 year old high school student who was acting as the umpire and showed him where he was wrong.  He said the call had already been made so that was that.  Then she yelled "I teach my girls to play by the rules so what am I supposed to tell them now!?"  I laughed very loud.  Whenever I'm sad and need cheered up I think about that coach passionately talking to her team of 7 year olds about that missed call and how her integrity and dedication to them wouldn't allow her to simply ignore it, all the while all they are hearing is Charlie Brown's teachers voice and daydreaming about the popsicle they would get after the game.
Title: Re: little kid sports
Post by: CNS on July 20, 2016, 11:52:34 AM
The idea of doing it for free school is so dumb.  Put the money in an investment instead of travel costs, tourney fees, league fees, equipt fees, etc, and you could probably go to most any state College without having to chose based on any factor other than who has a good degree to offer in what you are interested in.

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Title: Re: little kid sports
Post by: Kat Kid on July 20, 2016, 12:05:28 PM
Both my sister and I played competitive sports growing up, the kinds where we were attending regional or national tournaments most weekends (driving or getting on airplanes).  I was an all-state athlete (Kansas bleh) and got some "offers" to small private schools.  My sister was much better and got full ride offers from every top 25 program in the country and tons others.  Of course my folks spent a lot of money on both of us, but they viewed it as an investment because we could get our college education paid for.  Long story short, I think we both ended up hating playing the actual sports we played.  My sister had to go pro in something other than sports and with her shitty free education she has struggled in the real world. 

So, parents, just relax.  Your kids should learn commitment and teamwork in sports, but it should be fun, and when it stops being fun go do something else. 

My (current) theory:  I'd like my kids to do some team sports and some individual sports, and then also some activities where success is not objectively measured and the rules not so objectively defined (like fishing, hunting, photography, something like that).

I am sorry to hear that.  I think your plan sounds good, my only sincere hope would be that you keep your firearms in a gun case with a non obvious passcode/combination on the lock.
Title: Re: little kid sports
Post by: Emo EMAW on July 20, 2016, 12:30:18 PM
Both my sister and I played competitive sports growing up, the kinds where we were attending regional or national tournaments most weekends (driving or getting on airplanes).  I was an all-state athlete (Kansas bleh) and got some "offers" to small private schools.  My sister was much better and got full ride offers from every top 25 program in the country and tons others.  Of course my folks spent a lot of money on both of us, but they viewed it as an investment because we could get our college education paid for.  Long story short, I think we both ended up hating playing the actual sports we played.  My sister had to go pro in something other than sports and with her shitty free education she has struggled in the real world. 

So, parents, just relax.  Your kids should learn commitment and teamwork in sports, but it should be fun, and when it stops being fun go do something else. 

My (current) theory:  I'd like my kids to do some team sports and some individual sports, and then also some activities where success is not objectively measured and the rules not so objectively defined (like fishing, hunting, photography, something like that).

I am sorry to hear that.  I think your plan sounds good, my only sincere hope would be that you keep your firearms in a gun case with a non obvious passcode/combination on the lock.

Well, ya.  The whole room will have a passcode lock on it eventually.  We're in the middle of a basement remodel and have money budgeted as such.
Title: Re: little kid sports
Post by: michigancat on July 20, 2016, 12:38:50 PM
yeah I just want my kids to exercise and have fun. Ideally they find a sport they enjoy and can play into adulthood. We're lucky to have pretty low-key basketball and swimming organizations in the community that don't pressure kids, like at all. Soccer and baseball/softball are pretty gross with competition though, at a ridiculously low age.
Title: Re: little kid sports
Post by: Emo EMAW on July 20, 2016, 12:46:44 PM
^^ that's another point I forgot to mention.  I agree they should do a sport they can play their whole lives, be it running or tennis or something like that.    Physical health is a big part of leading a long, healthy, and ultimately happy life.
Title: Re: little kid sports
Post by: CNS on July 20, 2016, 02:13:56 PM
That's a good reason as to why football sucks.  I mean, you gonna round up 22 30 y/o's and get a game going?