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General Discussion => The New Joe Montgomery Birther Pit => Topic started by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on July 07, 2016, 11:51:18 AM
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Is anyone actually considering voting for either Trump or Hillary?
In one corner you have someone whose utter reckless and ignorance made her too incompetent to be indicted for crimes she blatantly committed, who is demonstrably disingenuous in every position she takes, and who has been an abject failure in her political career.
In the other corner you have a guy whose campaign strategy involves lobbing childish insults via Twitter at every one of his detractors, who has no cognizance policy position (like b.o) or coherent agenda, and who has spent $0 advertising in the couple months.
Can you even fathom what a debate among these people might look like? This can't be reality.
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I'll be voting Gary
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I don't even like Gary, but I see him as the only viable option. If I vote, it will be for him or the yet tbd white night.
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I'll probably decide as I walk into my polling place.
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I don't like fierce one of them at all
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Is anyone actually considering voting for either Trump or Hillary?
In one corner you have someone whose utter reckless and ignorance made her too incompetent to be indicted for crimes she blatantly committed, who is demonstrably disingenuous in every position she takes, and who has been an abject failure in her political career.
In the other corner you have a guy whose campaign strategy involves lobbing childish insults via Twitter at every one of his detractors, who has no cognizance policy position (like b.o) or coherent agenda, and who has spent $0 advertising in the couple months.
Can you even fathom what a debate among these people might look like? This can't be reality.
Not that I disagree with most of this. Using the abject failure in her political career as a descriptor of Hillary seems erroneous seeing that she is on the verge of becoming elected POTUS. That's not really failure, but substantial achievement, imo.
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That's brilliant. It's not even nobody who has been elected can be considered a failure, it's nobody who might be elected can be a failure.
All politicians are huge successes guys! Regardless of their embarrassing records of ineptitude and poor decision making.
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I've been asking myself why we can't get good candidates to run, or if they choose to do so, why can't they get out of the primary?
Like, why can't I vote for John Huntsman? Why on Earth can't a guy like that get out of the primary? Had the Republicans nominated him in 2012, Obama wouldn't have likely had a second term.
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Jeb would have been a good president.
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My main goal between now and November is to convince my parents to either A) Not vote for president, just vote for all the local and state stuff, or B) Vote for Gary
That's all I want
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My main goal between now and November is to convince my parents to either A) Not vote for president, just vote for all the local and state stuff, or B) Vote for Gary
That's all I want
I am going to avoid talking about it with my parents at all costs so I can just imagine they are voting for Gary.
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I'll be voting for Mr. Trump
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I literally do not know who Gary is
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I'll probably vote for Hillary. Just to see how close the race is between the two and I'd love to turn KS blue.
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That's brilliant. It's not even nobody who has been elected can be considered a failure, it's nobody who might be elected can be a failure.
All politicians are huge successes guys! Regardless of their embarrassing records of ineptitude and poor decision making.
I guess it depends on your definition of success and failure.
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the eff is gary
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Gary Joslin I think
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Another election year, another year of bitching about how there are no good candidates to vote for. :Roll Eyes:
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No good candidate runs because the process has become about anything but the actual skills and ability the job takes. It has become a gauntlet of batshit stupidity TMZ style. To win, you seem to need the exact opposite of what you need to actually do the job.
We need to blow up both parties, the mechanics of funding, and try a different approach.
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No good candidate runs because the process has become about anything but the actual skills and ability the job takes. It has become a gauntlet of batshit stupidity TMZ style. To win, you seem to need the exact opposite of what you need to actually do the job.
We need to blow up both parties, the mechanics of funding, and try a different approach.
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Or go back to the way it used to be done a while ago.
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No good candidate runs because the process has become about anything but the actual skills and ability the job takes. It has become a gauntlet of batshit stupidity TMZ style. To win, you seem to need the exact opposite of what you need to actually do the job.
We need to blow up both parties, the mechanics of funding, and try a different approach.
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The republicans had a couple of candidates I liked well enough. We would have ended up with Bush or Rubio if Trump wouldn't have stepped in and ruined everything.
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I don't know. I think both of them would have been out batshit crazy'ed by Cruz.
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I don't know. I think both of them would have been out batshit crazy'ed by Cruz.
Cruz would have had the Santorum voters.
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The republicans had a couple of candidates I liked well enough. We would have ended up with Bush or Rubio if Trump wouldn't have stepped in and ruined everything.
trump certainly didn't take their voters, so i don't see how you can blame them falling into oblivion on trump.
rubio couldn't even win his home state when the only other candidates left were crazy ass trump, crazy ass cruz and ohio-only candidate kasich. the voters rejected him fair and square.
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The republicans had a couple of candidates I liked well enough. We would have ended up with Bush or Rubio if Trump wouldn't have stepped in and ruined everything.
trump certainly didn't take their voters, so i don't see how you can blame them falling into oblivion on trump.
rubio couldn't even win his home state when the only other candidates left were crazy ass trump, crazy ass cruz and ohio-only candidate kasich. the voters rejected him fair and square.
If Trump had stayed out, turnouts would have been a lot lower.
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i'm sure they both would have felt great if fewer total people rejected them.
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the eff is gary
Probably would be a waste of time to concern yourself. I doubt he even get's in on the Presidential Debates.
Not with that attitude :shakesfist:
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the eff is gary
Probably would be a waste of time to concern yourself. I doubt he even get's in on the Presidential Debates.
he's already over the threshold without even trying so far. i think it will happen
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the eff is gary
Probably would be a waste of time to concern yourself. I doubt he even get's in on the Presidential Debates.
he's already over the threshold without even trying so far. i think it will happen
I haven't seen him at 15% yet.
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i thought it was 10 or 11. maybe that's just the election funds.
i still think he can get to 15 percent though, if that's what is required. lots of people are not satisfied with the 2 choices.
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It's beyond comprehension how anyone could be satisfied with either candidate.
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It's beyond comprehension how anyone could be satisfied with either candidate.
I'm not satisfied with either candidate. But I know it's going to be one or the other so I'm making a choice. I don't sit out elections and I don't vote for people who can't possibly win - I vote for the less terrible of the two choices. In this case it's Trump.
Trump is an obnoxious fool with a startling ignorance of the issues and the Constitution, but I'll take that over Clinton who can't plead ignorance as an excuse. Trump also seems to genuinely believe in American Exceptionalism, which is a step in the right direction.
Trump could very well end up being as corrupt or worse than Clinton if he wins, but at least there's a chance he won't be. With Clinton we know exactly what we're getting. She's worse than Nixon. You might vote for her anyway because she aligns with your liberal views, but you really can't deny that she would easily be the most corrupt politician to ever ascend to the White House.
I've said this before and it continues to be re-affirmed - under Barack Obama's tenure we have descended into lawless banana republic territory. We've seen this time and again with executive actions that ignore the laws, Supreme Court rulings that ignore the written words of laws to achieve the desired result, and now the FBI laying out the case for Clinton's felonies and then abruptly declaring that they won't recommend prosecution. The social fabric of law and order is being torn to shreds. This felon cannot be awarded the presidency. It's probably already too late to reverse course, but when the ship's going down I'm going to at least try to tread water - not grab for the anchor.
If you're a liberal, I hope you vote for Johnson. If you value the rule of law and giving priority to American interests, I hope you'll hold your nose and vote for Trump. He's the best choice an increasingly stupid electorate has given us.
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It's beyond comprehension how anyone could be satisfied with either candidate.
I don't vote for people who can't possibly win
Trump can't possibly win.
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FWIW, I don't understand how anyone could have voted for b.o. in 2012. He was not only clearly incompetent, but also dead set on taking the country down a horrible vindictive and hateful road.
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It's beyond comprehension how anyone could be satisfied with either candidate.
I'm not satisfied with either candidate. But I know it's going to be one or the other so I'm making a choice. I don't sit out elections and I don't vote for people who can't possibly win - I vote for the less terrible of the two choices. In this case it's Trump.
Trump is an obnoxious fool with a startling ignorance of the issues and the Constitution, but I'll take that over Clinton who can't plead ignorance as an excuse. Trump also seems to genuinely believe in American Exceptionalism, which is a step in the right direction.
Trump could very well end up being as corrupt or worse than Clinton if he wins, but at least there's a chance he won't be. With Clinton we know exactly what we're getting. She's worse than Nixon. You might vote for her anyway because she aligns with your liberal views, but you really can't deny that she would easily be the most corrupt politician to ever ascend to the White House.
I've said this before and it continues to be re-affirmed - under Barack Obama's tenure we have descended into lawless banana republic territory. We've seen this time and again with executive actions that ignore the laws, Supreme Court rulings that ignore the written words of laws to achieve the desired result, and now the FBI laying out the case for Clinton's felonies and then abruptly declaring that they won't recommend prosecution. The social fabric of law and order is being torn to shreds. It's probably already too late to reverse course, but when the ship's going down I'm going to at least try to tread water - not grab for the anchor.
If you're a liberal, I hope you vote for Johnson. If you value the rule of law and giving priority to American interests, I hope you'll hold your nose and vote for Trump. He's the best choice an increasingly stupid electorate has given us.
Trump supporters smdh
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I'm with her
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@pmshead
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I'm with her
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@pmshead
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FWIW, I don't understand how anyone could have voted for b.o. in 2012. He was not only clearly incompetent, but also dead set on taking the country down a horrible vindictive and hateful road.
There are 47 percent... who are dependent upon government, who believe that they are victims, who believe the government has a responsibility to care for them, who believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing, to you-name-it. That that's an entitlement. And the government should give it to them. And they will vote for this president no matter what…These are people who pay no income tax.
Mittens was more competent? :lol:
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Ksuw gets all worked up and writes a book about how rule of law is dead because the fbi decides not to recommend indictment, but doesn't give a flying eff that police are running wild on the american public.
Trump supporters, smdh
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FWIW, I don't understand how anyone could have voted for b.o. in 2012. He was not only clearly incompetent, but also dead set on taking the country down a horrible vindictive and hateful road.
There are 47 percent... who are dependent upon government, who believe that they are victims, who believe the government has a responsibility to care for them, who believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing, to you-name-it. That that's an entitlement. And the government should give it to them. And they will vote for this president no matter what…These are people who pay no income tax.
Mittens was more competent? :lol:
Obama, July 13: There are a lot of wealthy, successful Americans who agree with me — because they want to give something back. They know they didn’t — look, if you’ve been successful, you didn’t get there on your own. You didn’t get there on your own. I’m always struck by people who think, well, it must be because I was just so smart. There are a lot of smart people out there. It must be because I worked harder than everybody else. Let me tell you something — there are a whole bunch of hardworking people out there. (Applause.)
If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help. There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you’ve got a business — you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen. The Internet didn’t get invented on its own. Government research created the Internet so that all the companies could make money off the Internet.
:ROFL:
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Ksuw gets all worked up and writes a book about how rule of law is dead because the fbi decides not to recommend indictment, but doesn't give a flying eff that police are running wild on the american public.
Trump supporters, smdh
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