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TITLETOWN - A Decade Long Celebration Of The Greatest Achievement In College Athletics History => Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball => Topic started by: Trim on June 25, 2016, 03:40:18 PM
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Foreign travel is only one part of the adversity K-State will face and benefit from, Weber said, in its time in Europe. Additionally, the Wildcats will face off with unknown teams in varying environments with different rules and officials who Weber said commonly brew up some “home cooking” on the court.
“I think that makes it even better because you have some tough situations that you deal with,” said Weber, adding that gyms without air conditioning filled with opposing teams’ fans are other forms of adversity the team may come across. “So you have all those situations. I think those all kind of add up to bringing teams along.”
http://www.kstatesports.com/news/se-weber-wildcats-begin-preparation-for-trip-to-europe-06-23-2016
Also, can someone fact-check this?
"I’ve been very fortunate to make 10, 11, 12 trips in my long journey through coaching, and I would bet in 75 percent or more we maybe won the league or definitely had a successful season,” Weber said.
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can someone fact-check this?
"or definitely had a successful season”.
KSU Hoops: Not all wins are labeled a W
checks out.
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I need to remember this for the next expectations thread: Maybe win the league or have success of some kind.
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didn't he get kicked out of a game last year in brazil?
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didn't he get kicked out of a game last year in brazil?
I feel like that was a little further back but that did happen
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It was his first or second offseason
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It was before the summer before Titletown
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I can see it now. Smh. 1st #exbruce is no A/C "our guys just weren't ready for that tough environment."
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"too hot"
"the foreign languages were confusing"
"home cooking did us in"
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"jet lag"
"lack of focus"
"lot of learning/growing left to do"
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"young team playing against pros"
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how many years in a row can you be a young team?
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Kentucky is young every year.
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how many years in a row can you be a young team?
How often are you going to run players off?
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how many years in a row can you be a young team?
(ignore the subtitle context)
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(ignore nicole)
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success off the court is the most important thing.
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:emawkid:
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https://twitter.com/coachmatt_ksu/status/766449831128756224
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'grats, w illinois.
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This travel will probably be the culprit for Oscar failing to win a conference road game this season, might be time to kick off a few guys and go young for 2017-18. By that time he will have his five year extension.
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“It took a toll on us with all the touring, moving around, walking around, just doing things before the game and not resting. It was different,” K-State senior Westicles said. “We didn’t really have any time to rest. It took a toll on our legs, but it was great. I compare it to the end of the season when you are tired and your legs may not be feeling good. It was good to face some adversity like that.”
Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/sports/college/big-12/kansas-state/article97689697.html#storylink=cpy
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McVersity
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In review, Weber said the trip provided the benefits he hoped the team would achieve.
“I always say it’s a microcosm of your season: You have your ups and downs,” Weber said. “You want adversity and deal with problems and situations. I don’t think we expected Delta (Air Lines) to have a computer crash on the first day … and all the flights were cancelled. We were fortunate to get on a plane the next day.
http://cjonline.com/sports/catzone/2016-08-24/xavier-sneed-has-strong-showing-k-state-basketball-european-tour#
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Nobody's gonna remember in February that the earthquake in Italy happened after the 'cats left, right? Because you can't fault anyone for a last place conference finish after going through something like that.
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Nobody's gonna remember in February that the earthquake in Italy happened after the 'cats left, right? Because you can't fault anyone for a last place conference finish after going through something like that.
Well played
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residue of adversity
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Well, I was in Montreal when his '07-'08 team took McGill to overtime.
Also, can someone fact-check this?
"I’ve been very fortunate to make 10, 11, 12 trips in my long journey through coaching, and I would bet in 75 percent or more we maybe won the league or definitely had a successful season,” Weber said.
And I was at Conseco Fieldhouse a few months later, when they lost their 19th game, still the record in Illini history.
I didn't go to Italy in the summer of 2011, but I was back in Indy for his one-and-done at the big 10 Tourney, the final game of his Illinois tenure, and he knew it. I remember asking Myron Medcalf after the final locker room availability "was he crying?"
Medcalf confirmed.
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Bruscuses are getting way too predictable. It's boring now.
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Nobody's gonna remember in February that the earthquake in Italy happened after the 'cats left, right? Because you can't fault anyone for a last place conference finish after going through something like that.
Well played
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He will definitely use the Delta outage as an excuse. I'd say the odds are 10/1 that he will use the earthquake
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TODAY'S SPORTS EXTRA
Wildcats Reflect on Benefits from International Tour
August 30, 2016
By Corbin McGuire
K-State men’s head basketball coach oscar Weber expected his team to face adversity during its trip to Italy and Switzerland earlier this month. Little did he know that it would hit before the team even left the United States.
When Delta’s worldwide computer network crashed Monday, August 8, K-State’s flight was among the hundreds cancelled. After scrambling to stay the night in Atlanta, K-State was able to get on a plane the next day and resume its trip, albeit 24 hours behind the initial plan.
“You want to deal with problems and situations,” Weber said last week in the Ice Family Basketball Facility while recapping the team’s five-game journey that ended with a 3-2 record.
With a day’s less rest than planned and not long after touring the Colosseum in Rome, K-State opened with an 82-75 loss to LCC University, a product of the circumstances more so than the Wildcats’ play, Weber said.
“Their bodies wanted to do it and they had some energy early, but it faded quickly. You could see on the video, they hit a wall,” said Weber, whose team went on to beat BC Silute (97-80), the Italian Select (90-55) and BBC Lausanne (68-47).
The adversity Weber was looking for took place throughout the program’s second international trip in the last five years — the most allowed by the NCAA in that span, reinforcing K-State Athletics’ first goal, to provide a World-Class Student-Athlete Experience.
Players had to adjust to FIBA rules and regulations, namely a shorter shot clock and a deeper 3-point line. The style of basketball was different than the Wildcats were accustomed to, as was the way referees called the game.
The atmospheres were nowhere near what K-State normally encounters in the Big 12; some gymnasiums didn’t even have air conditioning.
“It’s not always the easiest circumstances to deal with, which is good,” Weber said. “It’s all part of it.”
K-State also faced professional teams without any semblance of a scouting report, forcing players to adjust quickly and overcome an automatic disadvantage to win. Weber brought up K-State’s 11-point loss to the Kosovo National Team, which was prepping to qualify for the European Championships, as a game that would be a teaching point going forward.
“They had a really good system in and moved the basketball. I hope our guys learned from it,” said Weber, who commended the overall competition his team faced. “I’ve been on trips where we have three or four bad opponents and it doesn’t do you any good. It’s much better to play against teams that are organized, are trying to win and that know what’s going on. It’s going to help you come back more realistic of where you’re at.”
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYNQgtzo-8I&
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K-State also faced professional teams without any semblance of a scouting report, forcing players to adjust quickly and overcome an automatic disadvantage to win.
:lol:
K-State Basketball- Automatically Disadvantaged
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K-State also faced professional teams without any semblance of a scouting report, forcing players to adjust quickly and overcome an automatic disadvantage to win. Weber brought up K-State’s 11-point loss to the Kosovo National Team, which was prepping to qualify for the European Championships, as a game that would be a teaching point going forward.
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Seems like they'd have a scouting report if the coaches weren't so lazy.
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What sort of semblance of a scouting report did the euros have on KSU?
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Seems like they'd have a scouting report if the coaches weren't so lazy.
Delta :Curse:
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oscar is setting up the adversity excuse perfectly. Probably has already sold it to ADJC. Extension being drafted.
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He is an excuse artist. He paints in them the way Davinci did in oil
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Westicles canceled out the big 12 schedulemakers as an excuse/adversity option, indicating upon seeing the schedule that he was ready to EAT.
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Then he deleted it.
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He forgot we play everyone twice and thought we had a bunch of great home games.
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https://twitter.com/KenCorbitt/status/793533301143244800
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https://twitter.com/KenCorbitt/status/793533301143244800
Trim how many players have sidelined for a long period with a foot injury during the Oscar Odessy? Does the list include JackCrap? Any speculation about why this adversity is happening.
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That's four by my count; Love, DJamer, Bolden, and Karapetyan although I'm not sure he should count because I think he had foot issues in high school. Feet issues in basketball players are so tough you recover from, it really makes what DJamer did amazing.
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Trim how many players have sidelined for a long period with a foot injury during the Oscar Odessy? Does the list include JackCrap? Any speculation about why this adversity is happening.
:peek: The "boot" thing is a go-to. #acting
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Mumps.
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Mods, please update title to 2017-18.
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"if not for mumps, we'd still be playing."
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Not fair for oscar that Frank made the Final Four. Can oscar get a break?
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2016-17 adversity recap:
http://cjonline.com/sports/catzone/2017-04-11/oscar-weber-k-state-basketball-took-step-forward#
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Trim_Luke
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May have our 1st #boot winner of the year
https://twitter.com/KenCorbitt/status/920792093412470785
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https://twitter.com/wibwchrislilly/status/920815401646338049
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lol
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"They were disappointed. We were all disappointed," Weber said on Monday. "Now they have to take a step. We have to have leadership. Culture is dictated by leadership. They've been great so far. I've bragged on them since the spring. Now we had a disappointment. How do they come back and respond to it? That's the biggest thing.
"I know they care. I know how hard they worked. You can go back to Coach Snyder's goals — Don't Accept Losing, Eliminate Mistakes, Never Give Up. Everyone during the year is going to have a setback. How you deal with it and how do you respond? We had ours a little earlier than maybe we thought but maybe that gives us a little more time to figure it out."
With a week in between games, Weber said this gap should be crucial in honing in on some specific areas. While finals week makes practice times a little sporadic, the amount of true practices available is still substantial.
"It's good to have practices. I wish they weren't in exams, but we need some practice time," Weber said. "We just haven't had much practice time. Now it's, 'Here's a couple of things we need to get better at, let's get better at it.'"
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he's v good at this. you can't fire a guy that references the 16 goals.
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Playing the 16 Goals card is the act of a desperate man. I think he played it way too early.
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If these other teams didn't get so much more practice time than us, we would be right there.
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If these other teams didn't get so much more practice time than us, we would be right there.
That and other schools not having finals like KSU forces upon students.
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give the man a canvas and he’ll paint you a brucasso
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"They were disappointed. We were all disappointed," Weber said on Monday. "Now they have to take a step. We have to have leadership. Culture is dictated by leadership. They've been great so far. I've bragged on them since the spring. Now we had a disappointment. How do they come back and respond to it? That's the biggest thing.
"I know they care. I know how hard they worked. You can go back to Coach Snyder's goals — Don't Accept Losing, Eliminate Mistakes, Never Give Up. Everyone during the year is going to have a setback. How you deal with it and how do you respond? We had ours a little earlier than maybe we thought but maybe that gives us a little more time to figure it out."
With a week in between games, Weber said this gap should be crucial in honing in on some specific areas. While finals week makes practice times a little sporadic, the amount of true practices available is still substantial.
"It's good to have practices. I wish they weren't in exams, but we need some practice time," Weber said. "We just haven't had much practice time. Now it's, 'Here's a couple of things we need to get better at, let's get better at it.'"
No mention of the Play Hard Chart?
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I wish I wasn't still in exams too oscar
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This probably isn't the right thread for this, but it needs to be shared. Guys, I just... dammit...
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^^^ Def the wrong thread for that, and lol at that being the thing to get worked up about.
Anyway:
"One through 10, I think it's the best I've ever been part of. You just keep thinking the league can't get any better but obviously it's very good," K-State head coach oscar Weber said.
K-State (10-2) starts off conference play at Iowa State (9-2) on Friday at 7 p.m., in Hilton Coliseum, one of the tougher venues in not only the Big 12 but also the country.
The Cyclones have won 49 of their last 56 Big 12 games at home, including six in a row in Ames, Iowa, against K-State. Five of those losses were by six or less points.
"If you look back, basically every game has been very close and almost the same scenario, where we'll play well, push them and then they go make a play or two down the stretch," Weber said. "Now you have to find a way to get over the hump. It's a challenge, a great environment."
In addition to forcing oscar to open big 12 play in one of the toughest venues in the world, the conference is rough ridin' ksu this year with NINE conference road games.
To help prepare for nine road tests in the Big 12, K-State has played five games away from home already this season. The Wildcats won their two true road tests against Vanderbilt and Washington State to tie Oklahoma for the most true road wins in the conference so far this season.
Weber said those experiences, and what his team gained from them, would be key in successfully navigating its 18-game conference schedule.
"Every game, whether it's home or road, is going to be a battle. Because of the depth of the league, it's going to make it tough," he said. "We've had some experiences, and that's what you want to go through. Hopefully we learned and grew as we went through some of those experiences."
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^^^ Def the wrong thread for that, and lol at that being the thing to get worked up about.
Feel free to relocate. Wasn't really sure where to put it. And I know Bruceketball gives us PLENTY to get worked up about. Doesn't make this any less ridiculous.
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If these other teams didn't get so much more practice time than us, we would be right there.
That and other schools not having finals like KSU forces upon students.
That's a tremendously bad sentence, J.
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If these other teams didn't get so much more practice time than us, we would be right there.
That and other schools not having finals like KSU forces upon students.
That's a tremendously bad sentence, J.
It got published.
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Iowa State students still aren't back, and most of their fans are heading to Memphis. If we don't win tonight, it won't be because of any hilton magic.
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Didn't even think about that. :thumbs:
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Iowa State students still aren't back, and most of their fans are heading to Memphis. If we don't win tonight, it won't be because of any hilton magic.
Wrong take, this is the adversity thread.
Its tough playing in a quiet environment without a lot of energy in the building. Our players just got back from break and probably aren't as focused as we'd like them to be.
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If these other teams didn't get so much more practice time than us, we would be right there.
That and other schools not having finals like KSU forces upon students.
That's a tremendously bad sentence, J.
It got published.
Yeah, add it to the old CV. Friday, December 29th.