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General Discussion => The New Joe Montgomery Birther Pit => Topic started by: sys on June 23, 2016, 10:34:00 PM
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holy crap, they're going to do this.
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wild. interesting to see what this will do to scottish independence.
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:billdance:
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Starting own thread because my title is so much better. Proud to watch people rise up against executive and bureaucratic tyranny. Wish it was us, but we seem to be moving in opposite direction.
Can you even imagine if we had national referendums on issues as opposed to politicians? If we had a national vote on border enforcement? Obamacare?
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Forfeiting sovereignty is always foolish.
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bid
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This is worse for the EU than Great Britain in the long run.
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wild. interesting to see what this will do to scottish independence.
i'd be amazed if it isn't revoted.
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We have a Brit staying with us this week. She voted to stay but now leans toward leaving after looking into it more. Curious to see her feelings in the morning.
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wild. interesting to see what this will do to scottish independence.
i'd be amazed if it isn't revoted.
I just saw a scottish MP and she was PISSED. Sinn Fein just called for a revote on a united Ireland. Wonder how much staying power these reactions have. In 2014 the Scottish independence referendum was 55% no, hard to imagine this would swing it by that much by the time the vote happens, but who knows.
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Forfeiting sovereignty is always foolish.
articles of confederation > constitution?
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not sure i buy a united ireland, but i could see northern ireland leaving the uk and joining the eu as an independent state. i think that would be a longer-term deal though. scotland may be gone in a heartbeat.
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If UK immediately goes in to a recession, it will be interesting to see what the reaction is from all parties.
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Tying together the economies of radically different cultures was a dumb idea in the first place.
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http://www.economist.com/news/leaders/21701265-how-minimise-damage-britains-senseless-self-inflicted-blow-tragic-split
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If UK immediately goes in to a recession, it will be interesting to see what the reaction is from all parties.
A pro-Leave politican was saying on CNN that there will be "short-term" consequences, but this is best for Britain in the long-term. Did not specify what "long-term" means.
Nigel Farage is pretty awful. Boris Johnson is awful. And these guys were leading the charge.
Yikes.
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And I ask for a referendum on the name of this thread.
I would like to see, "Smoke your cigars...European Realignment Edition"
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David Cameron out
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So like 3 million British ex pats living in EU countries woke up illegal aliens?
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Whoa
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https://twitter.com/MazMHussain/status/746196149816569857
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https://twitter.com/MazMHussain/status/746196149816569857
Wow
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https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/746272130992644096
https://twitter.com/TechnicallyRon/status/746274588007481344
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My sister had been planning a trip to Scotland for about a year...her flight left at 7:30 last night
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https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/746272130992644096
https://twitter.com/TechnicallyRon/status/746274588007481344
:lol:
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My sister had been planning a trip to Scotland for about a year...her flight left at 7:30 last night
well her Scotland trip is a lot less expensive than she thought it would be
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Are we sure Boris isn't gary busy? I'm not. Probably means good things for trump.
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credit card thread cross post
http://rapidtravelchai.boardingarea.com/2016/06/23/brexit-fueled-pound-crash/#_ga=1.76063701.1925839842.1454333828
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I think people are confusing the stock markets reaction with the actual consequence of this.
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From someone who doesn't follow any of this, it looks like the majority is very unhappy that something like 2% of the population are dirty foreigners.
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From someone who doesn't follow any of this, it looks like the majority is very unhappy that something like 2% of the population are dirty foreigners.
there was definitely some desire to build a wall and make dirty foreigners pay for it but there was other stuff as well
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The EU has not been economically what it was supposed to be. Instead of the crap countries copying countries like Britain and reforming their economic policy, they did nothing and leached of easy money afforded by the EU.
The best way I heard it described was that those countries have "too much calcium" in their labor markets, and hopefully this is the wakeup call that the EU is bureaucratic bullshit that has accomplished almost nothing.
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From someone who doesn't follow any of this, it looks like the majority is very unhappy that something like 2% of the population are dirty foreigners.
there was definitely some desire to build a wall and make dirty foreigners pay for it but there was other stuff as well
Well yeah, there were (former British Empire) brown people wanting to build a wall against the Polacks too
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From someone who doesn't follow any of this, it looks like the majority is very unhappy that something like 2% of the population are dirty foreigners.
there was definitely some desire to build a wall and make dirty foreigners pay for it but there was other stuff as well
The UK news I watched said this was an idiot American talking point and that nobody in the UK considered this an "immigration" issue. I guess they were on point.
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Yeah, no one in the UK is talking about immigration. And you definitely can't read anything about the relationship between Brexit and immigration from sources like the BBC or Telegraph.
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Their currency is getting pounded
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Britain will have a tough go of it negotiating their own trade partnerships. And if Scotland leaves and takes their oil with them...yikes.
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Their currency is getting pounded
Sterling take right here.
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So like 3 million British ex pats living in EU countries woke up illegal aliens?
I don't think the vote takes effect for couple of years.
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i don't think anyone knows what the long term effects will be. my guess is the UK will be just fine after a while. The only thing we know is that in the short term, Big Train's sister hit the jackpot and should buy you a kilt or a bagpipes or something
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however it is hard to be a fan of this thing, since the only people i see being fans of it are known humongous ass hats
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Lol @ the idea that the EU will stop trading with the uk.
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kick their ass, fsd
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Britain will have a tough go of it negotiating their own trade partnerships. And if Scotland leaves and takes their oil with them...yikes.
Scottish oil is fading fast:
https://next.ft.com/content/1269ec82-c69e-11e5-808f-8231cd71622e
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Scotland is a PIGS trapped in a non-PIGS body. They're so confused and tortured.
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It seems the main reason people think the UK should stay is because it helps the rest of the EU.
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It's sort of weird to me that a country would make such a drastic change based on a majority vote.
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And I ask for a referendum on the name of this thread.
I would like to see, "Smoke your cigars...European Realignment Edition"
done. at least i edited the first post. if something more needs to be done, have a mod do it.
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I'm not sure, but I think they got into the EU without even a vote
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title should be "pipes" not "cigars"
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My sister had been planning a trip to Scotland for about a year...her flight left at 7:30 last night
well her Scotland trip is a lot less expensive than she thought it would be
Just booked/paid all my UK hotels last week :bang:
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My sister had been planning a trip to Scotland for about a year...her flight left at 7:30 last night
well her Scotland trip is a lot less expensive than she thought it would be
Just booked all my UK hotels last week :bang:
did you prepay or something? assuming you didn't, swiping your card over there will work out great when you get your cc bill
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My sister had been planning a trip to Scotland for about a year...her flight left at 7:30 last night
well her Scotland trip is a lot less expensive than she thought it would be
Just booked all my UK hotels last week :bang:
did you prepay or something? assuming you didn't, swiping your card over there will work out great when you get your cc bill
Updated my post...yes, prepaid through airbnb, etc.
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That sucks
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Britain was sending about £200MM to the EU weekly. Now, they'll have to spend more than that each week just to have access to the European markets plus more for all the restructuring.
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https://twitter.com/MazMHussain/status/746196149816569857
I have 13 Brits on my staff. When I told them about the vote this morning they all cheered, when I told them about Cameron they were fist pumping and high fiving each other, when I told them about the pound some of them cried. One girl told me she exchanged at 1.82 when she arrived a month ago (i told her that couldn't be right the best I saw was 1.67, she insists that it is), as of this second the exchange is 1.36.
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/24/nigel-farage-350-million-pledge-to-fund-the-nhs-was-a-mistake/
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omg
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The anti immigrant crowd loves making a "good deal"
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Yeah, no one in the UK is talking about immigration. And you definitely can't read anything about the relationship between Brexit and immigration from sources like the BBC or Telegraph.
It's not like Nigel Farage made it "the defining issue" or anything
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-36570759
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i need to see a pro-leave guy that doesn't come off a complete lunatic. are there any of those or nah?
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https://twitter.com/MazMHussain/status/746196149816569857
lol But yet Millennials are getting some of the blame.
https://twitter.com/web/status/746198574686306304
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i need to see a pro-leave guy that doesn't come off a complete lunatic. are there any of those or nah?
this guy comes off as more of a complete dumbass?
http://metro.co.uk/2016/06/24/man-who-voted-for-leave-says-he-thought-his-vote-wouldnt-count-wins-moron-of-the-year-award-5964450/
I’m a bit shocked to be honest.
I’m shocked that we actually have voted to Leave, I didn’t think that was going to happen.
My vote, I didn’t think was going to matter too much because I thought we were just going to Remain, and the David Cameron resignation has blown me away to be honest.
I think the period of uncertainty that we’re going to have for the next couple of months, that’s just been magnified now.
So yeah, quite worried.
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https://twitter.com/MazMHussain/status/746196149816569857
lol But yet Millennials are getting some of the blame.
https://twitter.com/web/status/746198574686306304
something i learned today: way more (like 10000000x more) people vote in the UK than here
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What's really awesome about this referendum is that it is non-binding. It wouldn't surprise me at all to see Parliament start to look at leaving and then decide to stay.
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The pro let's let everybody in and not give an eff if their dangerous or not aka globalist satanist jackboots hate independent thought.
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:lol:
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i need to see a pro-leave guy that doesn't come off a complete lunatic. are there any of those or nah?
this guy comes off as more of a complete dumbass?
http://metro.co.uk/2016/06/24/man-who-voted-for-leave-says-he-thought-his-vote-wouldnt-count-wins-moron-of-the-year-award-5964450/
I’m a bit shocked to be honest.
I’m shocked that we actually have voted to Leave, I didn’t think that was going to happen.
My vote, I didn’t think was going to matter too much because I thought we were just going to Remain, and the David Cameron resignation has blown me away to be honest.
I think the period of uncertainty that we’re going to have for the next couple of months, that’s just been magnified now.
So yeah, quite worried.
Dumbass roundup
http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2016/06/24/british_voters_regretting_their_decisions_a_roundup.html
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https://twitter.com/JoseCanseco/status/745342129510060032
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https://twitter.com/DarthPutinKGB/status/640238110043865090
see ya greece, bye hungary, later romania.
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Who needs currency anyway
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Britain was sending about £200MM to the EU weekly. Now, they'll have to spend more than that each week just to have access to the European markets plus more for all the restructuring.
I highly doubt that.
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I like it when the competition takes one to the nads
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I think the journalistic reaction to, what is essentially the beginning of the end of the failed EU, is pretty rough ridin' hilarious. :lol:
Sad day for the progessotards and their beta test unelected global government. :bawl:
Huge lol @ anyone who thinks the EU could shut out the UK, even if it wanted to.
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I think the market reaction to, what is essentially the beginning of the end of the greatest economic agreement in world history, is pretty rough ridin' hilarious. :lol:
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THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH IMMIGRATION
https://twitter.com/C4Ciaran/status/746415597882220544
(https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/3f510b25581c993fae11fe42817a9c6d3780f376/0_305_5049_3029/master/5049.jpg?w=620&q=55&auto=format&usm=12&fit=max&s=03df8fb02a8b973725b4e6739b8d3c30)
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That's a bubbles post if I ever read one :lol: what a fucktard
Will be interesting to see how many other countries make runs at exit. It's like everyone is all of the sudden starting to realize (maybe just remembering pre-eu) you can have free trade without a trillion dollar super government policing the climate and usurping federal governments with an Orwellian titled "human rights" court.
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Remember when California tried to deny new us citizen residents welfare benefits? :lol:
They should have just brexited
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Per some guy on cnbc, the vix resulting from Brexit is a fraction of the vix caused by Lehman.
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FSD, which of your posts do you believe people voted on? the neoliberalist one or the anti-brown people one?
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Fucktard
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https://twitter.com/JoseCanseco/status/745342129510060032
Will be interesting to see how many hugs he gives out
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Some forms of a Brexit campaign has been going on for years, a single plank brexit political party earned 13% of the popular vote last election cycle, for weeks polling showed Brexit and remain in a virtual tie, Brexit ulmitaley prevails by a fairly wide margin, and the resident libtards have attributed the outcome to two things: 1) people were confused and 2) anti-Muslim sentiment. How rough ridin' delusional.
That's like saying b.o. won 2012 because most Americans wanted to occupy Wall Street.
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Some forms of a Brexit campaign has been going on for years, a single plank brexit political party earned 13% of the popular vote last election cycle, for weeks polling showed Brexit and remain in a virtual tie, Brexit ulmitaley prevails by a fairly wide margin, and the resident libtards have attributed the outcome to two things: 1) people were confused and 2) anti-Muslim sentiment. How rough ridin' delusional.
That's like saying b.o. won 2012 because most Americans wanted to occupy Wall Street.
1) you're drunk
2) you're stupid even when you're not drunk
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Fucktard
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Greatest economic agreement in world history! Double digit unemployment, stagnant growth, declining real wages, inability to accumulate wealth, basically the reintroduction of feudalism. #delusion
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Man, the fling open the doors and eff security ProgLib Global Elite Wannabes and their desire for hauling first world economies down and make them into banana republic crap holes are extremely pissed off right now. Next up, a five paragraph screed on how Sharia Law is simply misunderstood and Christians are EXACTLY the same???
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Dax, do you want to go see ameriGEDDON with me? We can take PED's and yell jackboot at the screen like rocky horror or something
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Dax, do you want to go see ameriGEDDON with me? We can take PED's and yell jackboot at the screen like rocky horror or something
Never heard of it. You can watch it and report back to me. I'm sure given your internal re-write system, you'll completely misinterpret whatever it's about anyway.
Anybody who hears "We need to know who is coming into the country" and interprets it as "We're not going to let anyone in at all". Is, well, kind of mumped, that's pretty much you lib7, sorry . . . not really, tho.
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The president and the one world government deploy an emp that knocks out the countries power and communication grid and then declare martial law and confiscate guns and take away other rights but some brave Patriots fight back and defeat the US army. Your boy alex jones says it's all based on fact. I'm pretty pumped to see it
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Dax, do you want to go see ameriGEDDON with me? We can take PED's and yell jackboot at the screen like rocky horror or something
i might be wrong but i think a non-debate pit liveblog might be a first :lick:
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Sorry for spoiling the ending but the official summary says they win so happy ending :thumbs:
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The president and the one world government deploy an emp that knocks out the countries power and communication grid and then declare martial law and confiscate guns and take away other rights but some brave Patriots fight back and defeat the US army. Your boy alex jones says it's all based on fact. I'm pretty pumped to see it
Great, I've never watched an Alex Jones endorsed movie before, I'm sure you'll give it a great, albeit weird, review. Oh and just because Alex Johns adheres himself to words that I use from time-to-time, doesn't make me an Alex Jones follower or fan. I only read a few articles on his website, to follow the links to their news sources, of which many are in the foreign media. I pay no attention to his take on things.
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The president and the one world government deploy an emp that knocks out the countries power and communication grid and then declare martial law and confiscate guns and take away other rights but some brave Patriots fight back and defeat the US army. Your boy alex jones says it's all based on fact. I'm pretty pumped to see it
Great, I've never watched an Alex Jones endorsed movie before, I'm sure you'll give it a great, albeit weird, review. Oh and just because Alex Johns adheres himself to words that I use from time-to-time, doesn't make me an Alex Jones follower or fan. I only read a few articles on his website, to follow the links to their news sources, of which many are in the foreign media. I pay no attention to his take on things.
#explaining
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The president and the one world government deploy an emp that knocks out the countries power and communication grid and then declare martial law and confiscate guns and take away other rights but some brave Patriots fight back and defeat the US army. Your boy alex jones says it's all based on fact. I'm pretty pumped to see it
Great, I've never watched an Alex Jones endorsed movie before, I'm sure you'll give it a great, albeit weird, review. Oh and just because Alex Johns adheres himself to words that I use from time-to-time, doesn't make me an Alex Jones follower or fan. I only read a few articles on his website, to follow the links to their news sources, of which many are in the foreign media. I pay no attention to his take on things.
#explaining
It's necessary when dealing with extremely small geo-political minds such as yours. It has to be done . . . not sorry.
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I am struggling with the recent 'explaining' thing.
Royals aren't gonna win 'em all
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They sorta made it a proper verb
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I thought the EU was a stupid idea in the first place, but it scares me that it is mostly right wing extremists that were the vocal supporters of the #Brexit
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I thought the EU was a stupid idea in the first place, but it scares me that it is mostly right wing extremists that were the vocal supporters of the #Brexit
Selfishly, I have really liked the EU because it has made a European war less likely.
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The president and the one world government deploy an emp that knocks out the countries power and communication grid and then declare martial law and confiscate guns and take away other rights but some brave Patriots fight back and defeat the US army. Your boy alex jones says it's all based on fact. I'm pretty pumped to see it
Alex Jones :curse:
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Weird meltdown by lib7
Also, a feeltheberner accusing someone else of being delusional :lol:
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People who prefer consolidated nearly dictatorial powers of unaccountable central governments are having a bad day.
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So KK when is the UK going to invade Europe?
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rip consolidated nearly dictatorial powers of unaccountable central governments
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The UK was the one always under attack, in any event. The fascists still control the rest of the EU, so it won't be long before they attack again.
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The UK was always one toe in the EU, never adopting the crap currency and all.
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Here's an essay attempting to explain the Leave pov
http://www.wsj.com/articles/brexit-a-very-british-revolution-1466800383?mod=e2tw
The Brits were fed up with an incompetent EU.
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There is a petition on a second referendum with 1.6 million signatures. Any petition with 100,000 signatures debate in parliament.
Probably nothing, but there could be some fireworks.
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Why do liberals care that the UK decided to govern itself?
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I wish those losers hadn't cratered the Dow
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So KK when is the UK going to invade Europe?
The UK is not the concern, other than Northern Ireland reprising the troubles.
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The Dow went down because the expectation was Remain. It's 30 multinational companies that face a sliver of uncertainty. It will be fine
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Why do liberals care that the UK decided to govern itself?
It's an affront to their fantasy unelected progressive fascist world government.
Also, the working class led this charge, and liberals rough ridin' despise the working class.
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Mr. Obama also overdid it when he notoriously told the British that, if they opted for Brexit, they would find themselves “in the back of the queue” for a trade deal with the U.S. That overlooked a basic point: The U.K. doesn’t currently have a trade deal with the U.S., despite being its largest foreign investor. Moreover, no deal seems forthcoming: The negotiations between the U.S. and the EU over the trans-Atlantic Trade and Investment Partnership are going slowly, and the Brits involved in the talks are in despair.
:lol:
What a dolt.
Everything he touches is rough ridin' cursed to fail.
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The Dow went down because the expectation was Remain. It's 30 multinational companies that face a sliver of uncertainty. It will be fine
Cool thanks for high level investment advice, you must be a very wealthy investor. How many jets do you own?
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Sick burn
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Sick burn
Was being serious
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Why do liberals care that the UK decided to govern itself?
It's an affront to their fantasy unelected progressive fascist world government.
Also, the working class led this charge, and liberals rough ridin' despise the working class.
Link?
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http://www.jackdaniels.com
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:lol:
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I'm surprised (not really) there aren't more micro level economic analysis (maybe there are and nobody cares to report). All you ever read is that first world countries are supposed to take it in the ass for the greater good of the world. Meanwhile everyone ignores all the Bullshit third world economic policy and the nonsense spain, Italy and similar countries are engaged in.
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So KK when is the UK going to invade Europe?
The UK is not the concern, other than Northern Ireland reprising the troubles.
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Hey KK, NATO and the US are already doing a great job of ensuring another war in Europe.
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I'm surprised (not really) there aren't more micro level economic analysis (maybe there are and nobody cares to report). All you ever read is that first world countries are supposed to take it in the ass for the greater good of the world. Meanwhile everyone ignores all the Bullshit third world economic policy and the nonsense spain, Italy and similar countries are engaged in.
Shut the eff up and send me a link to back up your statement you lush
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a lot of big feelings ITT
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http://www.perc.org.uk/project_posts/thoughts-on-the-sociology-of-brexit/
good read but there is too much conjecture imo
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So KK when is the UK going to invade Europe?
The UK is not the concern, other than Northern Ireland reprising the troubles.
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Hey KK, NATO and the US are already doing a great job of ensuring another war in Europe.
I think a US driven NATO is less likely to spark a conflict among European countries than a bunch of unallied re-militarized European countries. Russia picking off eastern bloc countries and ultimately sparking a conflict is more or less likely with NATO or without NATO?
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http://www.perc.org.uk/project_posts/thoughts-on-the-sociology-of-brexit/
good read but there is too much conjecture imo
How is your Canadian friends European based company reacting to the vote?
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http://www.perc.org.uk/project_posts/thoughts-on-the-sociology-of-brexit/
good read but there is too much conjecture imo
How is your Canadian friends European based company reacting to the vote?
neutral'y
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i heard some guy on the radio speculating about the uk joining nafta, which would be awesome, imo.
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i heard some guy on the radio speculating about the uk joining nafta, which would be awesome, imo.
yes
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i heard some guy on the radio speculating about the uk joining nafta, which would be awesome, imo.
Is he Chip Brownish or does this have legs?
I don't know who it was but I'm almost 100% certain it's West Virginia twitter person'ish
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it was some economist type on cnbc or bloomberg. just a like "there's no reason this couldn't happen" thing not a "i'm hearing this could happen" thing.
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So KK when is the UK going to invade Europe?
The UK is not the concern, other than Northern Ireland reprising the troubles.
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Hey KK, NATO and the US are already doing a great job of ensuring another war in Europe.
I think a US driven NATO is less likely to spark a conflict among European countries than a bunch of unallied re-militarized European countries. Russia picking off eastern bloc countries and ultimately sparking a conflict is more or less likely with NATO or without NATO?
So NATO is disbanding? Re-militarized? Lotta high tech tanks, planes, artillery pieces, and troop carriers already in the hands of EU nations.
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So KK when is the UK going to invade Europe?
The UK is not the concern, other than Northern Ireland reprising the troubles.
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Hey KK, NATO and the US are already doing a great job of ensuring another war in Europe.
I think a US driven NATO is less likely to spark a conflict among European countries than a bunch of unallied re-militarized European countries. Russia picking off eastern bloc countries and ultimately sparking a conflict is more or less likely with NATO or without NATO?
So NATO is disbanding? Re-militarized? Lotta high tech tanks, planes, artillery pieces, and troop carriers already in the hands of EU nations.
I have no idea what is going to happen. But the "United States of Europe" may or may not be breaking up. Seems like that could be bad for peace.
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i heard some guy on the radio speculating about the uk joining nafta, which would be awesome, imo.
Is he Chip Brownish or does this have legs?
I don't know who it was but I'm almost 100% certain it's West Virginia twitter person'ish
Would D-stone go all in on @thedudeofUK? eff yes he would
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I wish those losers hadn't cratered the Dow
Total emotionally driven crater. It's like when obama talks about the markets and they crash.
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I'm surprised (not really) there aren't more micro level economic analysis (maybe there are and nobody cares to report). All you ever read is that first world countries are supposed to take it in the ass for the greater good of the world. Meanwhile everyone ignores all the Bullshit third world economic policy and the nonsense spain, Italy and similar countries are engaged in.
Shut the eff up and send me a link to back up your statement you lush
Links :curse:
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The EU defunding Nato is so EU. The organization no longer does anything it was intended to do.
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Good. I would be upset by all of Syrian refugees invading my country and trying to change the koo koo. I would like to see a Union of English Speaking nation.
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dax, fsd etc. what do you think will happen with brexit? UK just immediately being awesome? UK dissolves in to independent countries and everyone is better off?
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The EU defunding Nato is so EU. The organization no longer does anything it was intended to do.
I had to check if it even existed anymore.
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dax, fsd etc. what do you think will happen with brexit? UK just immediately being awesome? UK dissolves in to independent countries and everyone is better off?
In a nutshell:
Economically speaking, virtually nothing.
Domestically speaking, dont care, but the UK gets its identity and sovereignty back.
Politically speaking, European (i.e., California) bullshit is symbolically and substantively knocked a few steps back.
I don't think it will lead to a war that wouldn't have happened anyways.
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I think most of what you said is certainly possible. I don't know how you square 1 with 2 tho, either the EU was important or it wasn't--> there is either a bunch of economic fallout and UK reclaims its "sovereignty" or there is very little disruption substantively to the trade agreements.
I am more concerned with the fracturing of nation states as currently organized...Do you think Scotland breaks away? To what effect? Do you think the EU starts to break away? To what effect?
My biggest fear is that European separatists start to fracture all the nation states at the same time that the international institutions fail and that it starts with the UK (Scotland, Northern Ireland) then spreads to Spain (Catalonia, Gibraltar, basque) then to Italy (North/South) etc.
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When nafta started, a Canadian (real person) told me that it stood for not another rough ridin' trade agreement.
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I think most of what you said is certainly possible. I don't know how you square 1 with 2 tho, either the EU was important or it wasn't--> there is either a bunch of economic fallout and UK reclaims its "sovereignty" or there is very little disruption substantively to the trade agreements.
i mean, it really just depends entirely on what agreements replace it. i kinda agree with fsd that the new structures will pretty much keep almost all of the trade continuity and probably also most of the movement of labor/exchange of social services.
My biggest fear is that European separatists start to fracture all the nation states at the same time that the international institutions fail and that it starts with the UK (Scotland, Northern Ireland) then spreads to Spain (Catalonia, Gibraltar, basque) then to Italy (North/South) etc.
i think your fear confuses cause and effect. i would also conjecture that scotland would only leave the uk if they are guaranteed entry into the eu, so that would actually strengthen the eu. i think your other proposed fractures would also strengthen the eu (small states need the common market more than large states. really, the idea of splitting off these little micro nationalities into states is only viable within a framework like the eu).
best case scenario, the uk moves to eu lite by another name, the continental members remain and the eu becomes more responsive to member states complaints. it's not hard to see this being a net positive long-term.
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I have no idea what will happen. Kind of exciting
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It may have been the right decision but it was made for the wrong reasons
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I think most of what you said is certainly possible. I don't know how you square 1 with 2 tho, either the EU was important or it wasn't--> there is either a bunch of economic fallout and UK reclaims its "sovereignty" or there is very little disruption substantively to the trade agreements.
i mean, it really just depends entirely on what agreements replace it. i kinda agree with fsd that the new structures will pretty much keep almost all of the trade continuity and probably also most of the movement of labor/exchange of social services.
My biggest fear is that European separatists start to fracture all the nation states at the same time that the international institutions fail and that it starts with the UK (Scotland, Northern Ireland) then spreads to Spain (Catalonia, Gibraltar, basque) then to Italy (North/South) etc.
i think your fear confuses cause and effect. i would also conjecture that scotland would only leave the uk if they are guaranteed entry into the eu, so that would actually strengthen the eu. i think your other proposed fractures would also strengthen the eu (small states need the common market more than large states. really, the idea of splitting off these little micro nationalities into states is only viable within a framework like the eu).
best case scenario, the uk moves to eu lite by another name, the continental members remain and the eu becomes more responsive to member states complaints. it's not hard to see this being a net positive long-term.
i think it's a much more scary situation than that. right-wing leaders in Finland, Austria, the Netherlands, France and Hungary are already calling on in/out referendums in those countries. the EU was set up to stop Europe from tearing itself apart after WWII by linking them economically, considering that the power vacuums that existed after WWI lead directly to the next great war. if the stronger, more populous and more prosperous countries leave the EU, it has two really negative consequences in my mind. The first is that it exacerbates the Syrian refugee crisis by leaving countries that are wholly ill-equipped to handle it all alone. The second is that it will more than likely embolden Russia to become more aggressive towards EU countries in general and the Baltic states specifically, and there is a high likelihood that Russia will do to those countries what it's been doing to Ukraine for the past 3 years.
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It would be most appropriate and fitting if this ends up costing tons of money without resulting in any measurable change beyond how it makes some old people feel about what kind of political ideology they believe their country has.
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i think it's a much more scary situation than that. right-wing leaders in Finland, Austria, the Netherlands, France and Hungary are already calling on in/out referendums in those countries.
oh yeah, it's also not hard to see how it could be a disaster, long-term. i agree with you that the contagion danger is in the rise of nationalism among the large established nation-states not in a rise among the separatists championing microstates for intrastate nationalities.
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I think most of what you said is certainly possible. I don't know how you square 1 with 2 tho, either the EU was important or it wasn't--> there is either a bunch of economic fallout and UK reclaims its "sovereignty" or there is very little disruption substantively to the trade agreements.
The EU was important when it was about creating an economic state. It has devolved into the UN's Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) cousin. It advances a leftist-progressive-fascist political agenda, and has abandoned free markets and the unified military. Economically, many of the things it originally stood for pre-existed, like free trade. Adopting what is essentially the UCC across Europe and other civil business code was/is great. Requiring germany and the uk to repeatedly bail out worthless social welfare states who refuse to adopt 1st world economic policy is absurd. Imparting social policy upon its members is outrageous. It needs to go back to what it originally stood for, or it will and should fall apart.
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If Muslim immigration is so bad it starts causing the EU to fall apart, we probably should look really hard at this Muslim thing again.
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I think most of what you said is certainly possible. I don't know how you square 1 with 2 tho, either the EU was important or it wasn't--> there is either a bunch of economic fallout and UK reclaims its "sovereignty" or there is very little disruption substantively to the trade agreements.
i mean, it really just depends entirely on what agreements replace it. i kinda agree with fsd that the new structures will pretty much keep almost all of the trade continuity and probably also most of the movement of labor/exchange of social services.
My biggest fear is that European separatists start to fracture all the nation states at the same time that the international institutions fail and that it starts with the UK (Scotland, Northern Ireland) then spreads to Spain (Catalonia, Gibraltar, basque) then to Italy (North/South) etc.
i think your fear confuses cause and effect. i would also conjecture that scotland would only leave the uk if they are guaranteed entry into the eu, so that would actually strengthen the eu. i think your other proposed fractures would also strengthen the eu (small states need the common market more than large states. really, the idea of splitting off these little micro nationalities into states is only viable within a framework like the eu).
best case scenario, the uk moves to eu lite by another name, the continental members remain and the eu becomes more responsive to member states complaints. it's not hard to see this being a net positive long-term.
1) under my scenario several big states have already dropped out (France likely next because pissed at Germany)
2) if nation states fracture, and the EU does not have as much sway, what happens when Spain decides that Basque independence is South Carolina nullification?
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Fractured nation states exist, and have existed for centuries. The EU can't possibly claim to have solved that.
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I think most of what you said is certainly possible. I don't know how you square 1 with 2 tho, either the EU was important or it wasn't--> there is either a bunch of economic fallout and UK reclaims its "sovereignty" or there is very little disruption substantively to the trade agreements.
The EU was important when it was about creating an economic state. It has devolved into the UN's Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) cousin. It advances a leftist-progressive-fascist political agenda, and has abandoned free markets and the unified military. Economically, many of the things it originally stood for pre-existed, like free trade. Adopting what is essentially the UCC across Europe and other civil business code was/is great. Requiring germany and the uk to repeatedly bail out worthless social welfare states who refuse to adopt 1st world economic policy is absurd. Imparting social policy upon its members is outrageous. It needs to go back to what it originally stood for, or it will and should fall apart.
I don't really think Greece got much of a bailout. They are on the hook for an enormous sum still.
The weirdest part for me is the UK seemingly already had the best of both worlds, the EU work permits, but not Schengen and their own currency. I just don't understand what sovereignty was threatened.
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I think most of what you said is certainly possible. I don't know how you square 1 with 2 tho, either the EU was important or it wasn't--> there is either a bunch of economic fallout and UK reclaims its "sovereignty" or there is very little disruption substantively to the trade agreements.
The EU was important when it was about creating an economic state. It has devolved into the UN's Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) cousin. It advances a leftist-progressive-fascist political agenda, and has abandoned free markets and the unified military. Economically, many of the things it originally stood for pre-existed, like free trade. Adopting what is essentially the UCC across Europe and other civil business code was/is great. Requiring germany and the uk to repeatedly bail out worthless social welfare states who refuse to adopt 1st world economic policy is absurd. Imparting social policy upon its members is outrageous. It needs to go back to what it originally stood for, or it will and should fall apart.
I don't really think Greece got much of a bailout. They are on the hook for an enormous sum still.
The weirdest part for me is the UK seemingly already had the best of both worlds, the EU work permits, but not Schengen and their own currency. I just don't understand what sovereignty was threatened.
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The ability to control how many Brown people came into their country via EU countries.
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I think most of what you said is certainly possible. I don't know how you square 1 with 2 tho, either the EU was important or it wasn't--> there is either a bunch of economic fallout and UK reclaims its "sovereignty" or there is very little disruption substantively to the trade agreements.
The EU was important when it was about creating an economic state. It has devolved into the UN's Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) cousin. It advances a leftist-progressive-fascist political agenda, and has abandoned free markets and the unified military. Economically, many of the things it originally stood for pre-existed, like free trade. Adopting what is essentially the UCC across Europe and other civil business code was/is great. Requiring germany and the uk to repeatedly bail out worthless social welfare states who refuse to adopt 1st world economic policy is absurd. Imparting social policy upon its members is outrageous. It needs to go back to what it originally stood for, or it will and should fall apart.
I don't really think Greece got much of a bailout. They are on the hook for an enormous sum still.
The weirdest part for me is the UK seemingly already had the best of both worlds, the EU work permits, but not Schengen and their own currency. I just don't understand what sovereignty was threatened.
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The ability to control how many Brown people came into their country via EU countries.
They already had border controls!
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I think most of what you said is certainly possible. I don't know how you square 1 with 2 tho, either the EU was important or it wasn't--> there is either a bunch of economic fallout and UK reclaims its "sovereignty" or there is very little disruption substantively to the trade agreements.
The EU was important when it was about creating an economic state. It has devolved into the UN's Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) cousin. It advances a leftist-progressive-fascist political agenda, and has abandoned free markets and the unified military. Economically, many of the things it originally stood for pre-existed, like free trade. Adopting what is essentially the UCC across Europe and other civil business code was/is great. Requiring germany and the uk to repeatedly bail out worthless social welfare states who refuse to adopt 1st world economic policy is absurd. Imparting social policy upon its members is outrageous. It needs to go back to what it originally stood for, or it will and should fall apart.
I don't really think Greece got much of a bailout. They are on the hook for an enormous sum still.
The weirdest part for me is the UK seemingly already had the best of both worlds, the EU work permits, but not Schengen and their own currency. I just don't understand what sovereignty was threatened.
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The ability to control how many Brown people came into their country via EU countries.
They already had border controls!
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I thought EU member countries could move freely to other countries?
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The "human rights" court, as a starter, usurped sovereignty. the ability of these countries to make their own laws (i.e., govern) was being diminished at an increasing rate.
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The ability to control how many Brown people came into their country via EU countries.
more about controlling the number of eastern europeans, muslim refugees second. they already have a font of generic brown people with the right to immigrate due to the commonwealth.
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@wetwillie
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schengen_Area (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schengen_Area)
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lol Boris is already distancing himself from actually implementing Leave.
https://twitter.com/xtophercook/status/747178171003437056
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@wetwillie
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schengen_Area (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schengen_Area)
Well hot damn. I'm starting to think these old British people got hoodwinked.
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https://twitter.com/SkyNewsBreak/status/747178341514489856
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So, is it safe to say this Boris guy wanted to gain popularity by being pro-leave, but didn't think it'd actually happen and doesn't want to actually deal with it?
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lol Boris is already distancing himself from actually implementing Leave.
https://twitter.com/xtophercook/status/747178171003437056
Wait...they want the benefits but don't want the cons?
Well, hell, no wonder that won. I'd like to vote for that, too.
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So, is it safe to say this Boris guy wanted to gain popularity by being pro-leave, but didn't think it'd actually happen and doesn't want to actually deal with it?
Lots of people think that Cameron resigned quickly to ensure that Boris had to deal with all the fallout/details. They are nemeses.
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So, is it safe to say this Boris guy wanted to gain popularity by being pro-leave, but didn't think it'd actually happen and doesn't want to actually deal with it?
Lots of people think that Cameron resigned quickly to ensure that Boris had to deal with all the fallout/details. They are nemeses.
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As he should. eff Boris.
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So, is it safe to say this Boris guy wanted to gain popularity by being pro-leave, but didn't think it'd actually happen and doesn't want to actually deal with it?
Lots of people think that Cameron resigned quickly to ensure that Boris had to deal with all the fallout/details. They are nemeses.
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He's pretty vocal that he doesn't want them triggering Article 50 until he leaves.
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The UK isn't leaving. They'll start negotiations and realize that not much will change and they will stay in the EU.
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Man the Neo Statists in residence may get to celebrate after all.
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Just so we are all on the same page, who are the neo statists in residence?
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@wetwillie
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schengen_Area (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schengen_Area)
Yeah, this is what kills me about this whole thing, The UK hasn't been part of the Schengen Area, like ever, and have control over their borders, anyone who has traveled in the Chunel will see that in process (most people thing it's just some security check, it kinda is, but really it's an entry into the Schengen Area process), so wtf are they trying to do? Oh, be a bunch of racist a-holes. Ah, Ok.
lol Boris is already distancing himself from actually implementing Leave.
https://twitter.com/xtophercook/status/747178171003437056
Wait...they want the benefits but don't want the cons?
Well, hell, no wonder that won. I'd like to vote for that, too.
Pretty much. I guess. IDK, shows that Brits can be just a stupid as us. Like father like son. Or son like father. Any rate, not wanting to be part of the largest single market (the EU) is the stupidest thing you could wish upon yourself. But I bet they don't end up leaving, and things get updated and amended. So I guess small victories for the UK.
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Can we keep the twitter anecdotes and Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) conjecture concerning the same in the Facebook thread?
K thx
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Also, could the neo statists refraim from asking the same questions that have already been answered?
Also also, Schengun doesn't mean the UK didn't have freedom of movement restrictions/obligations. Stop acting like fucktards, or do so in the Facebook thread.
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good quick look at possible trade arrangements.
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-36639261
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When nafta started, a Canadian (real person) told me that it stood for not another rough ridin' trade agreement.
at the time, it made me think that Canada was part of a lot of trade agreements and that NAFTA was just one more trade agreement.
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A lot of folks are focused on the economics, but the disintegration of the Labour party leadership in protest of Corbyn is fascinating.
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The UK isn't leaving. They'll start negotiations and realize that not much will change and they will stay in the EU.
They have tminvoke Article 50 to begin negotiations. Once they invoke, they HAVE to leave eventually.
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They have tminvoke Article 50 to begin negotiations. Once they invoke, they HAVE to leave eventually.
EU members can allow them to stay after negotiations start.
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They have tminvoke Article 50 to begin negotiations. Once they invoke, they HAVE to leave eventually.
EU members can allow them to stay after negotiations start.
But would that soft stance encourage other nations to pull the same crap?
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They have tminvoke Article 50 to begin negotiations. Once they invoke, they HAVE to leave eventually.
EU members can allow them to stay after negotiations start.
But would that soft stance encourage other nations to pull the same crap?
I don't think any other nation is encouraged to pull the same crap right now
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2016/06/27/italy-eyes-40bn-bank-rescue-as-first-brexit-domino-falls/ (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2016/06/27/italy-eyes-40bn-bank-rescue-as-first-brexit-domino-falls/)
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And then Nigel Farage went to the EU because...well, just because.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/28/europe/uk-brexit-eu-referendum/index.html (http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/28/europe/uk-brexit-eu-referendum/index.html)
The most vocal architect of Britain's seismic decision to leave the European Union thumbed his nose at the EU Parliament Tuesday as members booed and turned their backs on him, in the most visible clash of ideologies between Britain and Europe since last week's vote.
Nigel Farage, leader of the far-right UK Independence Party (UKIP), gloated unapologetically and antagonized a battered union in Brussels, calling for free trade with the bloc while insulting members in the same breath.
"Isn't it funny? When I came here 17 years ago and I said that I wanted to lead a campaign to get Britain out of the European Union, you all laughed at me. Well, I have to say, you're not laughing now, are you?" he said.
"I know that virtually none of you have ever done a proper job in your lives or worked in business or worked in trade or indeed ever created a job. But listen, just listen," Farage said at the special meeting, held to address the Brexit fallout.
In an interview later with CNN, Farage brushed off his comments as a light-hearted joke, saying that the EU had called him "all the names under the sun."
"They don't like me. It's mutual," he said.
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HE SAYS WHAT HE THINKS!
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Neo Statists are very arrogant and cannot handle non abiders.
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Wait the EU has a parliament? Does the UK know this?
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Wait the EU has a parliament? Does the UK know this?
Considering the #2 most googled phrase after the vote was, "What is the EU?", my guess is, no, they didn't know that.
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Stock markets say WGAF
Neosho statists = :bawl:
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Pound is back up to pre brexit levels too
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Stock markets say WGAF
Neosho statists = :bawl:
The image of this made me :D
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Stock markets say WGAF
Neosho statists = :bawl:
From what I read, it bounced back because folks realized that nothing is going to happen in the meantime, and they won't really know what happens until they trigger Article 50 and start working through everything with the EU. Also, folks realized that they can get stocks in the FTSE 100 at bargain basement prices. When you expand out to the FTSE 250, it hasn't recovered from pre-Brexit levels yet, but most likely will level out at some point soon.
I don't think it's the stock market that everyone is really worried about. It's what happens with Scotland, Ireland, future trade deals, existing immigrants in the workforce and other things that will most likely take years to identify true impact.
I personally don't think that this is something we're going to be able to definitively say was good or bad for at least 5-10 years. It's something we'll look back on in 2025 and probably make some legit observations.
Like, when Nebraska left for the Big Ten, they didn't start sucking at football overnight. It took a few years and a full recruiting class removed from Texas before they started going 5-7. (Shameless Smoke your cigars plug :D)
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Weird the pubs are having the biggest meltdowns over this
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And Boris Johnson says, "Nah, I'm good."
http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/30/europe/uk-conservative-pm-candidates/index.html (http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/30/europe/uk-conservative-pm-candidates/index.html)
And while I didn't agree with the exit, I respect this:
May: 'No second referendum'
The 52% vote to leave the EU sent the pound tumbling, hurt global markets and inspired renewed talk of Scottish independence.
Amid the turmoil, members of the public, as well as MPs, have called for a second, do-over referendum before the government formally begins the process of leaving the European Union.
But although she campaigned to remain, May said Thursday that there could be no revisiting the vote.
"Brexit means Brexit. The campaign was fought. The vote was held. Turnout was high, and the public gave their verdict," she said.
"There may be no attempts to remain inside the EU, no attempts to rejoin it through the back door. And no second referendum."
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Just glad the market bounced back quickly. Do not care about European issues other than the impact they have on good 'ol Dlew12.
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Stock markets say WGAF
Neosho statists = :bawl:
From what I read, it bounced back because folks realized that nothing is going to happen in the meantime, and they won't really know what happens until they trigger Article 50 and start working through everything with the EU. Also, folks realized that they can get stocks in the FTSE 100 at bargain basement prices. When you expand out to the FTSE 250, it hasn't recovered from pre-Brexit levels yet, but most likely will level out at some point soon.
I don't think it's the stock market that everyone is really worried about. It's what happens with Scotland, Ireland, future trade deals, existing immigrants in the workforce and other things that will most likely take years to identify true impact.
I personally don't think that this is something we're going to be able to definitively say was good or bad for at least 5-10 years. It's something we'll look back on in 2025 and probably make some legit observations.
Like, when Nebraska left for the Big Ten, they didn't start sucking at football overnight. It took a few years and a full recruiting class removed from Texas before they started going 5-7. (Shameless Smoke your cigars plug :D)
Also, FSD apparently doesn't understand that the markets and currency are negatively correlated. It's not surprising that the market is up while the pound tanks.
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Stock markets say WGAF
Neosho statists = :bawl:
From what I read, it bounced back because folks realized that nothing is going to happen in the meantime, and they won't really know what happens until they trigger Article 50 and start working through everything with the EU. Also, folks realized that they can get stocks in the FTSE 100 at bargain basement prices. When you expand out to the FTSE 250, it hasn't recovered from pre-Brexit levels yet, but most likely will level out at some point soon.
I don't think it's the stock market that everyone is really worried about. It's what happens with Scotland, Ireland, future trade deals, existing immigrants in the workforce and other things that will most likely take years to identify true impact.
I personally don't think that this is something we're going to be able to definitively say was good or bad for at least 5-10 years. It's something we'll look back on in 2025 and probably make some legit observations.
Like, when Nebraska left for the Big Ten, they didn't start sucking at football overnight. It took a few years and a full recruiting class removed from Texas before they started going 5-7. (Shameless Smoke your cigars plug :D)
Also, FSD apparently doesn't understand that the markets and currency are negatively correlated. It's not surprising that the market is up while the pound tanks.
Sounds like the limeys' loss is dlew12's gain.
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Stock markets say WGAF
Neosho statists = :bawl:
From what I read, it bounced back because folks realized that nothing is going to happen in the meantime, and they won't really know what happens until they trigger Article 50 and start working through everything with the EU. Also, folks realized that they can get stocks in the FTSE 100 at bargain basement prices. When you expand out to the FTSE 250, it hasn't recovered from pre-Brexit levels yet, but most likely will level out at some point soon.
I don't think it's the stock market that everyone is really worried about. It's what happens with Scotland, Ireland, future trade deals, existing immigrants in the workforce and other things that will most likely take years to identify true impact.
I personally don't think that this is something we're going to be able to definitively say was good or bad for at least 5-10 years. It's something we'll look back on in 2025 and probably make some legit observations.
Like, when Nebraska left for the Big Ten, they didn't start sucking at football overnight. It took a few years and a full recruiting class removed from Texas before they started going 5-7. (Shameless Smoke your cigars plug :D)
Also, FSD apparently doesn't understand that the markets and currency are negatively correlated. It's not surprising that the market is up while the pound tanks.
I was making fun of you idiots
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I don't think we can call Brexit a success or that it's had no impact as of yet. The entire political system is in chaos. The Tory party is in turmoil, the Labour party is being torn apart. Their credit rating was downgraded. Incidents of racism are up. Economists are still predicting recession.
The Stock Market is raising because investors are picking up cheap stocks. Big companies, like those in the FTSE 100, will be fine, most likely. Everywhere else, there's turmoil.
Again, this may be good for them in the long term, but no one knows at this point.
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I Only Buy Cheap Stocks :ksugrad:
"Incidents of racism are up" :runaway:
Brexit :curse:
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(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FaqQ4H6i.jpg&hash=16aa26cdb3c53d033a3f01cd2079376b604e468a)
Sorry sd
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That was really stupid, lib.
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I hope every member leaves. This is an unnatural amalgamation of counties. It's like throwing all of the farm animals in the same pen, and hoping unnatural sex will produce something good.
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The EU is Germany's 4th Reich attempt by softer means.
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That Boring Johnson guy the libtards hate mushed their faces today
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Has the EU stopped trading with England yet?
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I don't think they have left yet, fsd :dunno:
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I think the market reaction to, what is essentially the beginning of the end of the greatest economic agreement in world history, is pretty rough ridin' hilarious. :lol:
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https://twitter.com/JoseCanseco/status/745342129510060032
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https://twitter.com/JoseCanseco/status/745342129510060032
Still hilarious! :lol:
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https://www.rt.com/op-edge/353991-brexit-reality-implications-referendum/
Media :curse : :lol:
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She's so disgusting
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Man, WackyCat08 got faced af on a Sunday night
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Not really, but I did have Monday off, for a golf tournament, soo. no BD!
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:)
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So France has round 1 of their presidential election this weekend. Several of the top candidates oppose the EU and/or advocate for strong borders.
Which, of course, are invented problems manufactured by the fringe per the libtards.
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The French electoral system seems pretty great to me.
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Much better than this antiquated bullshit we have in the us
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https://twitter.com/TimHarford/status/1010765831553343490
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https://www.wsj.com/articles/u-k-minister-in-charge-of-brexit-negotiations-resigns-1531092427 (https://www.wsj.com/articles/u-k-minister-in-charge-of-brexit-negotiations-resigns-1531092427)
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https://twitter.com/lisaocarroll/status/1021759942884249602
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No one is going to trade with the UK anymore?
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Then: “More money for NHS!”
Now: “No food shortages!”
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i hope italy is paying attention to how well brexit is working out.
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You mean German dominated debt restructured Italy?
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i also hope germany is paying attention to the success of euro-skeptic political movements across the eu.
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http://www.politics.co.uk/blogs/2018/07/27/this-is-what-no-deal-brexit-actually-looks-like (http://www.politics.co.uk/blogs/2018/07/27/this-is-what-no-deal-brexit-actually-looks-like)
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http://www.politics.co.uk/blogs/2018/07/27/this-is-what-no-deal-brexit-actually-looks-like (http://www.politics.co.uk/blogs/2018/07/27/this-is-what-no-deal-brexit-actually-looks-like)
https://twitter.com/dylanmatt/status/1021914089914880000
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At least they don’t have to accept immigrants and transients unconditionally anymore.
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meanwhile, eastern euro immigration was busy solving itself.
https://twitter.com/Birdyword/status/1027498799197908994
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https://twitter.com/jessesingal/status/1029014310830460928
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https://twitter.com/BBCNormanS/status/1063072940743376897
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We need uniform ideas, slogans and emblems for that new Euro Army. Get to work guys.
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You first
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Strident Euro Regionalism (with hints of Nationalism): Good
U.S. Nationalism: Bad
Did I get that right?
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Strident Euro Regionalism (with hints of Nationalism): Good
lmao
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we talked to the anti-brexit protest people in London. they just chill out by parliament with their signs every day and make british jokes. like, some people who I don't know walked out of the building and they started a chant of, "maybe this was a bad idea? maybe this was a bad idea?"
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Strident Euro Regionalism (with hints of Nationalism): Good
lmao
Tap out noted
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I’m going to be in London in a couple weeks, hopefully the pound crashes for like a weekend or so
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What an odd motto that would be, lol
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What an odd motto that would be, lol
You guys were supposed to come up with the motto, dummy.
Right now lib is grading out at a D- on gEing. It's just been awful lately.
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What's up with all the anger lately bud? Try relaxing, it's Friday!
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Slogan idea:
Just thinking back to that time in the year of the great bendover when [some or other dumb stuff]. sad...just sad. :facepalm:
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Needs more parentheses, but a solid start dumb1
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Slogan idea:
Just thinking back to that time in the year of the great bendover when [some or other dumb stuff]. sad...just sad. :facepalm:
With facts as our guide it's just a shame that resident Libbot Nation doesn't recognize the Great Bendover 2012 to 2016 and the mess it left behind. But Libbot Nation is best at circling the wagons and protecting their own.
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https://twitter.com/classiclib3ral/status/1081644556100296704
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https://twitter.com/JimMFelton/status/1084501861951041542
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May's deal rejected by over two thirds. Hopefully, now they can reverse the referendum.
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brutal. apparently people think may can survive tomorrow? hard to reconcile with today's vote, but i don't pretend to understand brexit politics.
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https://twitter.com/Bencjacobs/status/1100088886091571201
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lmao
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"at least we're not brexit" really does give me some comfort in these dark days.
https://twitter.com/MattZeitlin/status/1105550651130552322
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It’s very lmao and a nice mirror of our dumb asses
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wow, today's vote was close.
https://twitter.com/BBCBreaking/status/1105911124493504512
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although, technically, she also won.
https://twitter.com/JimMFelton/status/1105923236129193984
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https://twitter.com/RupertMyers/status/1106802515943800832
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https://twitter.com/BakerLuke/status/1107589186314485760
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Paris burns while Mac drinks wine in the alps.
How positively "let them eat cake"ish
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Paris burns while Mac drinks wine in the alps.
Where does dax learn to talk like this? Alex Jones? Breitbart?
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I actually thought that was a fairly erudite allegory, even if I disagree with the characterization.
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Yeah, I think it's the dramatic, expressive language used not merely to exaggerate, but to fabricate that stood out to me.
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I had forgotten how easily triggered Chum is, he really gets upset if anyone says anything about one of his favorite failing world leaders.
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I actually thought that was a fairly erudite allegory, even if I disagree with the characterization.
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it's even more erudite to know that the last queen of france never said that.
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I actually thought that was a fairly erudite allegory, even if I disagree with the characterization.
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it's even more erudite to know that the last queen of france never said that.
Don't recall attributing that to a specific person, but thank you for your input.
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I actually thought that was a fairly erudite allegory, even if I disagree with the characterization.
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it's even more erudite to know that the last queen of france never said that.
Don't recall attributing that to a specific person, but thank you for your input.
Don't recall directly addressing your post, but thank you for your input. While I've got you on the line, is it more or less "let them eat cake"-ish to play golf at your private golf club in the immediate aftermath of Puerto Rico being hit by Maria?
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I actually thought that was a fairly erudite allegory, even if I disagree with the characterization.
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it's even more erudite to know that the last queen of france never said that.
Don't recall attributing that to a specific person, but thank you for your input.
Don't recall directly addressing your post, but thank you for your input. While I've got you on the line, is it more or less "let them eat cake"-ish to play golf at your private golf club in the immediate aftermath of Puerto Rico being hit by Maria?
It's okay as long as you send them billions of dollars.
But I know, I know. Libderp Nation doesn't bother to look at what a shitty and corrupt entity PREPA was (and still is) among many things, and LibDerp Nation never bothers to educate themselves on the processes and how PREPA still needs to submit it's final long term proposal for strengthening the PR power grid etc. etc. BTW, the Federal Gov't will likely pay for all of this . . . congrats to Siemens, though, nice contract.
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https://twitter.com/AndrewSparrow/status/1110957276360257541
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I just like these.
https://twitter.com/Ethan_Booker/status/1111026345306411008
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In other news the United States Air Force continues ongoing squadron and air wing mass redeployment exercises . . . just gotta practice so they can make sure they can get over and save Angie Merkel's (and others) too fat to fight military. All of this at great expense to the U.S. taxpayer.
Angie Merkel's still suckling on Vlad Putin's gas pump, though (pun not intended . . . or was it?), and said gas lines still by-passing former Eastern Bloc countries.
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it's all so amazing.
https://twitter.com/Hadas_Gold/status/1111639833070485505
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Angie Merkel buys Vlad's gas.
Now Erdogan buys Vlad's missiles.
But let's keep spending billions every year to ensure we can come to these guys rescue when their military crumbles after about 5 hours fighting the Russians.
https://www.businessinsider.com/erdogan-says-turkey-will-never-go-back-from-s-400-deal-with-russia-may-look-into-s-500-2019-3
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https://twitter.com/MichaelPDeacon/status/1112761638774603776
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https://twitter.com/NateSilver538/status/1112825123814432773
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https://twitter.com/VP/status/1113505302610087936
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I agree with admitted homophobe Mike Pence on this one
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https://twitter.com/grayconnolly/status/1113740486466985984?s=21
https://twitter.com/grayconnolly/status/1113749968655765504?s=21
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:lol:
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In part 1000 of: Why do we continue to spend billions to protect these too fat to fight people.
JCPOA: Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action aka How the EU can keep trading with the Mullahs of Iran (who are now basically admitting they're on the cusp of fissionable material for nuclear weapons and have not abated their weapons delivery programs in any way or at any time).
Just like the U.S., the EU is all talk about human rights.
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Brit MAGAs are as lmao as US MAGAs
https://twitter.com/raaleh/status/1130398563710767104?s=21
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The color of the passports must be changed!
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Yeah I was gonna lol about someone whose top 5 political priorities include wailing on school children and inefficient lightbulbs, but passport color as #2 is even more lol.
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i didn't realize the eu was being such a dick about the passport color.
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EU countries soon to enforce borders (gasp, borders!!) check that, "virtual borders" with massive drone fleets?
Stay tuned . . . The EU: We'll pick and choose when we want to get overrun by immigrants
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Lira tanking . . . Turkey still sending military personnel to Russia to get trained on the Russian Air Defense system.
U.S threatening sanctions.
For those keeping score at home:
EU: Still doing business with Iran
Angie Merkel: Still buying Vlad Putin's gas
Turkey: Still wanting to buy air defense system from Russians
Great friends, Europe . . . but let's continue to spend billions to protect them.
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https://twitter.com/TheSun/status/1131237934869483526
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In a show of solidarity with immigrants resident LibDerp's and LibDerp Nation will be (they won't) boycotting Denmark.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/may/11/denmark-election-matte-frederiksen-leftwing-immigration
Denmark’s current right-wing coalition government last year enacted the most anti-immigration legislation in Danish history and, rather than position her party in stark opposition, Frederikson has embraced much of it.
Under her leadership, the SD have called for a cap on “non-western immigrants”, for asylum seekers to be expelled to a reception centre in North Africa, and for all immigrants to be forced to work 37 hours a week in exchange for benefits.
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I’m boycotting Denmark
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I've been boycotting Denmark my entire life.
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In a show of solidarity with immigrants resident LibDerp's and LibDerp Nation will be (they won't) boycotting Denmark.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/may/11/denmark-election-matte-frederiksen-leftwing-immigration
Denmark’s current right-wing coalition government last year enacted the most anti-immigration legislation in Danish history and, rather than position her party in stark opposition, Frederikson has embraced much of it.
Under her leadership, the SD have called for a cap on “non-western immigrants”, for asylum seekers to be expelled to a reception centre in North Africa, and for all immigrants to be forced to work 37 hours a week in exchange for benefits.
Seems much less restrictive than our current policies.
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Boycotting Denmark.
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In a show of solidarity with immigrants resident LibDerp's and LibDerp Nation will be (they won't) boycotting Denmark.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/may/11/denmark-election-matte-frederiksen-leftwing-immigration
Denmark’s current right-wing coalition government last year enacted the most anti-immigration legislation in Danish history and, rather than position her party in stark opposition, Frederikson has embraced much of it.
Under her leadership, the SD have called for a cap on “non-western immigrants”, for asylum seekers to be expelled to a reception centre in North Africa, and for all immigrants to be forced to work 37 hours a week in exchange for benefits.
Seems much less restrictive than our current policies.
Our current policies are releasing thousands of illegals into the county and has citizenship application approvals at a 5 year high.
Nice effort though.
More and more European countries are getting very restrictive on immigration (and rescuing refugees in distress).
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In a show of solidarity with immigrants resident LibDerp's and LibDerp Nation will be (they won't) boycotting Denmark.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/may/11/denmark-election-matte-frederiksen-leftwing-immigration
Denmark’s current right-wing coalition government last year enacted the most anti-immigration legislation in Danish history and, rather than position her party in stark opposition, Frederikson has embraced much of it.
Under her leadership, the SD have called for a cap on “non-western immigrants”, for asylum seekers to be expelled to a reception centre in North Africa, and for all immigrants to be forced to work 37 hours a week in exchange for benefits.
Seems much less restrictive than our current policies.
Our current policies are releasing thousands of illegals into the county and has citizenship application approvals at a 5 year high.
Nice effort though.
More and more European countries are getting very restrictive on immigration (and rescuing refugees in distress).
Our current policies deport almost all of them.
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In a show of solidarity with immigrants resident LibDerp's and LibDerp Nation will be (they won't) boycotting Denmark.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/may/11/denmark-election-matte-frederiksen-leftwing-immigration
Denmark’s current right-wing coalition government last year enacted the most anti-immigration legislation in Danish history and, rather than position her party in stark opposition, Frederikson has embraced much of it.
Under her leadership, the SD have called for a cap on “non-western immigrants”, for asylum seekers to be expelled to a reception centre in North Africa, and for all immigrants to be forced to work 37 hours a week in exchange for benefits.
Seems much less restrictive than our current policies.
Our current policies are releasing thousands of illegals into the county and has citizenship application approvals at a 5 year high.
Nice effort though.
More and more European countries are getting very restrictive on immigration (and rescuing refugees in distress).
Our current policies deport almost all of them.
There’s thousands that will never be deported because they’re catch and releasing thousands and 90% of them are not showing up in court.
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In a show of solidarity with immigrants resident LibDerp's and LibDerp Nation will be (they won't) boycotting Denmark.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/may/11/denmark-election-matte-frederiksen-leftwing-immigration
Denmark’s current right-wing coalition government last year enacted the most anti-immigration legislation in Danish history and, rather than position her party in stark opposition, Frederikson has embraced much of it.
Under her leadership, the SD have called for a cap on “non-western immigrants”, for asylum seekers to be expelled to a reception centre in North Africa, and for all immigrants to be forced to work 37 hours a week in exchange for benefits.
Seems much less restrictive than our current policies.
Our current policies are releasing thousands of illegals into the county and has citizenship application approvals at a 5 year high.
Nice effort though.
More and more European countries are getting very restrictive on immigration (and rescuing refugees in distress).
Our current policies deport almost all of them.
There’s thousands that will never be deported because they’re catch and releasing thousands and 90% of them are not showing up in court.
https://www.justice.gov/eoir/page/file/fysb16/download#page=49
Looks like the number you were looking for is 25%.
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LOL, MCaleenan just testified in front of Congress that nearly 100% of asylum (and many non asylum seeking) border crossers are released. In many jurisdictions court cases are 2 years out or longer another ICE official testified that as of now about 90% are not showing up for court dates.
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If only we kept statistics for this sort of thing, we could figure out whether or not that was truthful testimony.
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If only we kept statistics for this sort of thing, we could figure out whether or not that was truthful testimony.
You reference a report that uses statistics that are 5 FFY's old. :lol: :lol:
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It was published in 2017. I guess it's possible that Trump's administration is just too incompetent to get more than 10% of these people to show up for court, though.
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So you’re saying we went from 25% not reporting to 90% during Trump’s presidency?
Sounds like if there’s an emergency it’s that we have a completely inept enforcer of our border laws.
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So you’re saying we went from 25% not reporting to 90% during Trump’s presidency?
Sounds like if there’s an emergency it’s that we have a completely inept enforcer of our border laws.
There's over 100K a month trying to cross the border.
In addition, the super old statistics posted are likely for court dates that came months, maybe even years after they crossed.
Clearly what you're not getting is that, these are people that are already in the country, "border laws" don't mean anything at that point.
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Apparently they used to mean something.
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Apparently they used to mean something.
:lol: You're using "border laws" and applying it to people who already crossed the border and are living in the country. :lol: :lol:
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Dax, “border laws” aren’t like an actual thing. You’re falling back in the “COLUSION is not a crime” talking point to avoid addressing the actual point.
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It was published in 2017. I guess it's possible that Trump's administration is just too incompetent to get more than 10% of these people to show up for court, though.
:lol: Look at the trendline of border crossers since 2017 when LibDerp Nation leaders officially declared that they want open borders and completely reversed all that big mean tough talk on the border they did the previous 8 years, and when LibDerp State leaders officially went sanctuary city/state because OrangeMan:Bad
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Apparently they used to mean something.
:lol: You're using "border laws" and applying it to people who already crossed the border and are living in the country. :lol: :lol:
I'm applying it to people who are here lawfully and awaiting a court date to determine whether or not they get to stay.
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Dax, “border laws” aren’t like an actual thing. You’re falling back in the “COLUSION is not a crime” talking point to avoid addressing the actual point.
You're falling into your usual idiocy of failing to understand the big picture, like you always do.
Five Federal Fiscal Years ago 25% of border crossers failed to show up in court of which many had already been living in the country for months/years.
So in essence that could be statistics for people who crossed the border a decade ago or more.
This is not hard, except for you.
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If the courts are that slow, then the ICE guy must have been lying his ass off with his 90% figure, since 0% of these immigrants would have even had a court date to miss.
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If the courts are that slow, then the ICE guy must have been lying his ass off with his 90% figure, since 0% of these immigrants would have even had a court date to miss.
A pilot study run in conjunction with the DOJ.
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Dax, this may surprise you, but if they’re released into the US and required to appear for a court date in the US, then they’re in the country legally.
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Dax, this may surprise you, but if they’re released into the US and required to appear for a court date in the US, then they’re in the country legally.
I said nothing to the contrary. You're just flailing.
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Calling them “illegals in our country” seems to be to the contrary.
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Calling them “illegals in our country” seems to be to the contrary.
You're parsing words . . . if they were granted official legal status then there would be no reason for them to go to court.
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Calling them “illegals in our country” seems to be to the contrary.
You're parsing words . . . if they were granted official legal status then there would be no reason for them to go to court.
HOF worthy dax-out here :lol:
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Calling them “illegals in our country” seems to be to the contrary.
You're parsing words . . . if they were granted official legal status then there would be no reason for them to go to court.
HOF worthy dax-out here :lol:
The usual cognitive dissonance from resident LibDerp Nation here.
You're here legally, but you still have to go to immigration court to determine your status . . . LibDerp Logic :lol:
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It’s basically like calling someone a criminal because they were arrested and posted bond. Sure it’s a common mistake but still a mistake and definitely not just a technicality.
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It’s basically like calling someone a criminal because they were arrested and posted bond. Sure it’s a common mistake but still a mistake and definitely not just a technicality.
:lol:
The various statuses simply grant a stay in deportation until further proceedings take place to determine final status. The fact that you're now using constitutionally granted rights of American Citizens and applying them to non-citizens, is, well, telling.
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Okay, while resident LibDerps flail around trying to grant constitutional oversight status to non-citizens.
Let's get back to the Euro's.
It's really great to see the resident Whack-A-Doo's beloved EU ready to go in and slap already cash strapped Italy with a $3 billion dollar fine . . . of an already cashed strapped nation.
So much so that Italy is looking to float its own Euro tied currency.
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https://twitter.com/nickeardleybbc/status/1136309464347418625
:lol:
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:lol: at those that don't think Ireland has a border situation.
I mean, just straight up :lol:
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So sad when the elderly get confused :frown:
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So sad when the elderly get confused :frown:
I'm not the one confused.
But good to see you're back to your #1 tapout
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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2019/05/29/epic-clash-building-italys-triumphant-salvini-brussels/
Everybody loves the EU!
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I was talking about the president, Mr sensitive :surprised:
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I was talking about the president, Mr sensitive :surprised:
Um-hmm
Which only reaffirms that you have absolutely no idea of what's going on or the context.
Not the least bit surprising.
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:lol: at those that don't think Ireland has a border situation.
I mean, just straight up :lol:
They are definitely going to have a huge rough ridin' situation if and when Brexit happens, and they have to have a border again, which is what they want to avoid. The violence in Derry has already started to some degree. My friends in Donegal are pretty worried over the whole thing.
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If only we kept statistics for this sort of thing, we could figure out whether or not that was truthful testimony.
You reference a report that uses statistics that are 5 FFY's old. :lol: :lol:
Better to use a made up statistic than an old statistic
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If only we kept statistics for this sort of thing, we could figure out whether or not that was truthful testimony.
You reference a report that uses statistics that are 5 FFY's old. :lol: :lol:
Better to use a made up statistic than an old statistic
When your party has done a 180 (weirdly timed on or about January 2017) and purposely created a border emergency with 100K people a month apprehended at the border (don't know how many weren't apprehended) and with asylum seekers bringing across children by the tens of thousands . . . always use 5 year old statistics to back up your claim that it's not an emergency. (LibDerp Nation)
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Fresh off threatening to fine cash strapped Italy $3 billion dollars for . . . being cash strapped.
The EU contemplates banning video streaming.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/will-the-eu-kill-video-streaming-11559774193
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The nu-right v. EU is another great rivalry
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When your party has done a 180 (weirdly timed on or about January 2017) and purposely created a border emergency with 100K people a month apprehended at the border (don't know how many weren't apprehended) and with asylum seekers bringing across children by the tens of thousands . . . always use 5 year old statistics to back up your claim that it's not an emergency. (LibDerp Nation)
Just keep supporting your guy who makes racist statements and operates in no factual statistics to create an emergency. Best to discount any statistic or fact when Trump is your guy.
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When your party has done a 180 (weirdly timed on or about January 2017) and purposely created a border emergency with 100K people a month apprehended at the border (don't know how many weren't apprehended) and with asylum seekers bringing across children by the tens of thousands . . . always use 5 year old statistics to back up your claim that it's not an emergency. (LibDerp Nation)
Just keep supporting your guy who makes racist statements and operates in no factual statistics to create an emergency. Best to discount any statistic or fact when Trump is your guy.
Let's take these numbers from 5 years ago and longer (that likely apply to people who were apprehended at the border as far back as 7 to 10 years ago) and apply them to today to make our case after we did a complete 180 on the border January 2017 . . . (LibDerp Nation)
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https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/washington-secrets/new-border-surge-prompts-10-jump-in-2019-prediction-to-1-072-000-illegal-immigrants
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The EU is just pure evil . . . sadly, some of the resident Whack-A-Doos love it.
https://theintercept.com/2019/06/09/europe-migrants-mediterranean-rescues/
On Monday, two human rights lawyers filed a 244-page complaint with the International Criminal Court, or ICC, accusing European Union governments of knowingly sending thousands of migrants to their deaths in implementing their deterrence-based migration policies.
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Mac is going to support Vlad Putin's BFF, the woman who has overseen pumping billions of dollars into the Russian economy (while overseeing a military that can fend for itself and relies on the United States to defend them from the "evil" Vlad Putin)
https://www.politico.eu/article/macron-would-support-merkel-for-commission-president/
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The refugee blockade in resident LibDerp Nation’s beloved EU continues.
Apparently Italy, pissed that Germany is leading the charge to fine them billions for being broke is telling Angie “Vlad Putin’s biggest customer” Merkel to take these refugees. Refugees from a country beloved LibDerp Hero Barry Obama destroyed.
https://www.newsweek.com/italy-salvini-sea-watch-3-migrants-pirate-ship-1445697
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Translation: Macron-Not Popular (unless you're polling U.S. based LibDerp Nation)
https://www.huffingtonpost.fr/entry/la-popularite-demmanuel-macron-na-pas-connu-deffets-europeennes-sondage-exclusif_fr_5d1f40ace4b0f31256823672?ncid=tweetlnkfrhpmg00000001
Also French gov't: Huge Censors (a movement U.S. based LibDerp Nation can really get behind)
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Meanwhile . . . in Turkey. Not only are they trying to buy weapons from Vlad Putin (not spurring Vlad Putin's economy like Angie Merkel is, but every little bit helps. This should really piss off LibDerp's who broke out of the 2012 Era of Post Election Flexibility and and went full Anti-Russian on or about January 2017). They're trying to start what could become a very big war.
https://twitter.com/eha_news/status/1148337630410694658
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Meanwhile . . . in Turkey. Not only are they trying to buy weapons from Vlad Putin (not spurring Vlad Putin's economy like Angie Merkel is, but every little bit helps. This should really piss off LibDerp's who broke out of the 2012 Era of Post Election Flexibility and and went full Anti-Russian on or about January 2017). They're trying to start what could become a very big war.
https://twitter.com/eha_news/status/1148337630410694658
not sure how this fits with European Realignment but...
Turkey is a rough ridin mess
Luckily this admin has a united position on the issue of S-400 procurement :sdeek:
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Meanwhile . . . in Turkey. Not only are they trying to buy weapons from Vlad Putin (not spurring Vlad Putin's economy like Angie Merkel is, but every little bit helps. This should really piss off LibDerp's who broke out of the 2012 Era of Post Election Flexibility and and went full Anti-Russian on or about January 2017). They're trying to start what could become a very big war.
https://twitter.com/eha_news/status/1148337630410694658
It seems like they mostly don’t want to burn their money on our shitty F-35
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Turkey taking deliver on S-400's.
So, Angie Merkel buying billions of dollars of Vlad Putin's Fossil Fuels (while by passing former Eastern Bloc nations on the process)
Erdo buying Russian Missiles.
The U.S. pays for nearly 25% of NATO's total administrative operating budget and of course the U.S. by far and away funds the largest military in NATO and spends about 3.57% of the largest GDP in the world.
Meanwhile two sorta NATO members and halfwits Finland and Norway who are scared to death of Vlad Putin and look to suckle a little harder on the bosom of U.S. military might spend less than 1.5% of GDP on their own defense.
Helluva a deal . . .
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Thanks for the statements dad
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Thanks for the statements dad
Even though you don't understand any of it, I appreciate the thinks none-the-less. I can appreciate simpletons.
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EU or Brexit . . . doesn't matter. Another country living under the comfy blanket of the U.S. military.
https://www.theweek.co.uk/102362/is-the-royal-navy-too-small-to-deal-with-iranian-threat
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https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-08-10/italy-s-salvini-tells-richard-gere-to-take-stranded-migrants
The EU's wall against immigrants continue.
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:lol:
https://twitter.com/skynews/status/1168997854280654849
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I was looking at UNREAD threads and accidentally clicked on this thinking it was the original smoke your cigar thread.
:buh-bye:
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Just hate to see this, just a crying damn shame Dem Hero Barack Obama murderer/refugeer/slave trade facilitator/deporter of hundreds of thousands of brown and black people put the Syrian Civil War on steroids.
https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2019-09-05/turkey-threatens-to-open-gates-for-syria-refugees-to-go-west
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:lol:
https://twitter.com/skynews/status/1168997854280654849
british parliament is amazing. I remember the old SNL sketches mocking it but didn't realize how not over-the-top it was at the time
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british trump is off to a good start
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Even a normal day in the House of Commons is fascinating. I enjoy the totally random sounding noises that aren't even words dudes make when they yell out, which is constantly happening.
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Even a normal day in the House of Commons is fascinating. I enjoy the totally random sounding noises that aren't even words dudes make when they yell out, which is constantly happening.
I love it when they warm up their zingers and then everyone just loses their crap when they land it (both booing and cheering)
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Even a normal day in the House of Commons is fascinating. I enjoy the totally random sounding noises that aren't even words dudes make when they yell out, which is constantly happening.
I love it when they warm up their zingers and then everyone just loses their crap when they land it (both booing and cheering)
Yes the crowd is amazing
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So how many of those British dudes are drunk and how many just like that?
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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-49970807
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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-49970807
Pretty sad.
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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-49970807
Pretty sad.
Yeah, and just think Bucket, your guy could have gone for that peaceful transition of power in Syria, but instead choose the regime change route.
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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-49970807
Pretty sad.
Yeah, and just think Bucket, your guy could have gone for that peaceful transition of power in Syria, but instead choose the regime change route.
"Peaceful transition of power in Syria" :lol:
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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-49970807
Pretty sad.
Yeah, and just think Bucket, your guy could have gone for that peaceful transition of power in Syria, but instead choose the regime change route.
"Peaceful transition of power in Syria" :lol:
Yes, let's go ahead and completely dismiss even attempting to do that (from a guy who as Senator ran around telling everyone how we needed to be negotiating with the "axis of evil") in lieu of regime change and throwing ourselves behind people who would have lead to an even bigger blood bath then the one we supported in the overthrow process.
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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-49970807
Pretty sad.
Yeah, and just think Bucket, your guy could have gone for that peaceful transition of power in Syria, but instead choose the regime change route.
"Peaceful transition of power in Syria" :lol:
Yes, let's go ahead and completely dismiss even attempting to do that (from a guy who as Senator ran around telling everyone how we needed to be negotiating with the "axis of evil") in lieu of regime change and throwing ourselves behind people who would have lead to an even bigger blood bath then the one we supported in the overthrow process.
Here's an idea. Maybe the guy who massacred peaceful protesters will agree to give up power with zero resistance :dunno:
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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-49970807
Pretty sad.
Yeah, and just think Bucket, your guy could have gone for that peaceful transition of power in Syria, but instead choose the regime change route.
"Peaceful transition of power in Syria" :lol:
Yes, let's go ahead and completely dismiss even attempting to do that (from a guy who as Senator ran around telling everyone how we needed to be negotiating with the "axis of evil") in lieu of regime change and throwing ourselves behind people who would have lead to an even bigger blood bath then the one we supported in the overthrow process.
Here's an idea. Maybe the guy who massacred peaceful protesters will agree to give up power with zero resistance :dunno:
As always you're just flailing. Multiple countries including Russia offered to negotiate a peaceful transition of power that was flat out rejected by a President who just a few years before was telling everyone who would listen that we needed to be negotiating with Syria, Iran, N. Korea, Libya etc. etc.
So instead your guy started shipping in "Freedom Fighters" and weapons from the last country he overthrew, which was Libya.
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dax making the case for stricter gun control ITT :horrorsurprise: :horrorsurprise: :horrorsurprise:
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dax making the case for stricter gun control ITT :horrorsurprise: :horrorsurprise: :horrorsurprise:
When have I not been for stricter gun control?
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But what about the benevolent open minded "let's be like them" Europeans the American political left always talks about, they're "model countries" ya know.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/03/world/europe/denmark-migrants-island.html
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While the EU countries/NATO sleep under the warm blanket of U.S. military might, in most cases still failing to meet the piddly GDP mandate that NATO membership requires.
They keep pumping billions of dollars into Vlad Putin's pocket and screwing over countries like the Ukraine.
:lol: :lol: at LibBot idiots thinking Trump was trying to break up NATO when it's clear those countries have only their self interest at their core.
https://oilprice.com/Latest-Energy-News/World-News/Worlds-Most-Controversial-Pipeline-Clears-Final-Hurdle.html
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Even a normal day in the House of Commons is fascinating. I enjoy the totally random sounding noises that aren't even words dudes make when they yell out, which is constantly happening.
I love it when they warm up their zingers and then everyone just loses their crap when they land it (both booing and cheering)
Yes the crowd is amazing
I watch this at least once a month. It’s my favorite.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qvIUa47x_Oc (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qvIUa47x_Oc)
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Even a normal day in the House of Commons is fascinating. I enjoy the totally random sounding noises that aren't even words dudes make when they yell out, which is constantly happening.
I love it when they warm up their zingers and then everyone just loses their crap when they land it (both booing and cheering)
Yes the crowd is amazing
I watch this at least once a month. It’s my favorite.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qvIUa47x_Oc (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qvIUa47x_Oc)
LMAO did you see Corbyn saying Boris broke a promise by not dying in a ditch?
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If Angie Merkel isn't pumping billions of dollars in Vlad Putin's pockets, underfunding the German military or pursuing an absurd "green energy" policy (while buying billions of dollars of Vlad Putin's gas) . . . she's calling for seizure of U.S. tech company assets.
Friends like these . . .
https://www.ft.com/content/956ccaa6-0537-11ea-9afa-d9e2401fa7ca
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With Friends like these . . .
https://www.dw.com/en/germany-should-stop-aiding-chinese-military-amnesty-warns/a-51283225
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I think at this point, and using the power of LibBot Nation thought processes of all NATO, all War, all-the-time, anything or anyone that speaks against perpetual war is a Vlad Putin puppet . . . that we can definitively say that Emmanuel Macron is a Vlad Putin puppet (as is Vlad Putin's primary customer and financier, Angie Merkel). Any leader of France, which traditionally has been nothing less than an absolute contrarian in regards to NATO that now decides to take this tact is clearly (and using the power of LibBot thought processes) a Vlad Putin puppet.
https://www.politico.eu/article/europe-brain-death-of-nato-emmanuel-macron-says/
Mac, if you guys want to step (for a change) and not live on under the warm cuckled bosom of U.S. military might, a move that would save the United States billions (and was once was a lifelong dream of the old LibBot Nation before they became cheerleaders for perpetual war under the likes of war mongers like Obama, Clinton and Biden . . . naming a few). Then knock yourself out, friend.
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Sometimes we forgot that not only do Americans have to deal with this shithead president, but other countries get fed up dealing with his bullshit too.
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Sometimes we forgot that not only do Americans have to deal with this shithead president, but other countries get fed up dealing with his bullshit too.
You just hate to see two heroes of LibBot Nation who are the biggest Putin lovers/puppets on the planet in Angie and Mac.
But weirdos gonna weirdo.
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Trump and dax crap all over nato for years. France finally says what everyone is thinking, that maybe nato can't expect reliable US support any longer. Trump and dax are mortally offended. Trump and dax look like fools.
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Trump and dax crap all over nato for years. France finally says what everyone is thinking, that maybe nato can't expect reliable US support any longer. Trump and dax are mortally offended. Trump and dax look like fools.
:lol: :lol: Meanwhile the U.S. spends billions on NATO and nearly every major NATO exercise, if not all features the U.S. military as the centerpiece. Don't see any arms from other NATO countries going to help the Ukraine. Plus LibBot Nation quite literally wanted the U.S. to go to war with Turkey aka the guardian of the NATO flank and home to multiple major U.S. military bases.
Yet here's LibBot heroes Angie Merkel pumping billions into Vlad's pockets, and now Mac is talking crap while France for decades could never actually decide if they would or wouldn't fight if NATO was attacked (how appropriate).
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Bolton - If Trump is re-elected he is going full isolationist and dumping on NATO
Macron - :sdeek: maybe we need to do something
Dax - :curse: :curse: :curse: libbot libbot :curse: :curse:
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Lol
Just a shame I’ve already added Bolton to the list of people LibBots believe 1000%
Again LibBots wanted the US to go to war against Turkey.
Meanwhile Angie Merkel finances Vlad Putin’s weapons programs and ensures pipelines bypass other NATO partners.
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lol at dax thinking Turkey was going to legit to attack US forces to go after the Kurds. Also that it was a libbot backed strategy and not bipartisan. Trumpers going to trump
I find Bolton's policies loathsome but that doesn't make him a liar. Certainly more credible than Trump, who has lied so many times even Hannity has stopped defending it. Amazing that all of these Republicans with years of Republican service are turning out to be liars once Trump gets to the White House.
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i would be interrested to hear the insight that you have that you feel may be more legitimate than that of Bolton
believe him or don't just seems like the former national security advisor might have his finger a little closer to the pulse than sonofepochtimes
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I wonder why the list of people LibBots are able to choose to believe over Trump is so damn long.
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:lol: :lol: :lol:
Erdogan repeatedly said that that the Syrian (Turkish border) operation was going to happen no matter what. As I've said before, the fundamental idiocy and lack of knowledge about the Kurdish-Turkish situation as exhibited by LibBot Nation was absolutely incredible and amaze. Not to mention the fundamental inability of LibBot Nation to admit that the United States never had any business being in Syria . . . ever, it was the war mongers Obama-Clinton that put us there (I'll leave out the destruction of Libya for this conversation).
NATO costs the U.S. $26 billion dollars a year in direct spending either via the direct funding of NATO itself coupled with the U.S. military bases in NATO countries. What isn't calculated is the billions spent to ensure the U.S. has the ability to rapidly respond to support NATO because the piss ant underfunded in theater countries in NATO still either grudgingly or fail entirely to live up to the GDP expenditure mandates.
Not a penny spent by NATO countries, other than the U.S. to support Ukraine in terms of lethal aid while Angie Merkel essentially funds the Russian military with her Germanic-Russo only pipelines (how positively Molotov–Ribbentrop).
Now LibBots support Mac talking crap, a guy who is the leader of a country who wouldn't even fully commit to NATO and still picks and chooses what it will or won't support.
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Post it again grandax
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Post it again grandax
Here comes the the avalanche of tapouts as expected.
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believing erdogan would attack US forces is absolute lunacy, but if it is what it takes to back Trump, dax is in!
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believing erdogan would attack US forces is absolute lunacy, but if it is what it takes to back Trump, dax is in!
There was less than 1000 U.S. forces in the area.
Easily avoided.
Good move to continue to alienate Turkey according to LibBots. So dumb.
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believing erdogan would attack US forces is absolute lunacy, but if it is what it takes to back Trump, dax is in!
My grandma is really old and has bad dementia and when I go to visit her my aunt will correct anything my grandma says that is a little nonsensical or just didn't happen and it makes my grandma embarrassed and angry. My dad and I will just let it roll because she has no real idea what she's saying and will forget in 20 seconds anyway. I'm wondering if gE just needs to take that approach with our own collective grandax. :th_twocents:
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believing erdogan would attack US forces is absolute lunacy, but if it is what it takes to back Trump, dax is in!
My grandma is really old and has bad dementia and when I go to visit her my aunt will correct anything my grandma says that is a little nonsensical or just didn't happen and it makes my grandma embarrassed and angry. My dad and I will just let it roll because she has no real idea what she's saying and will forget in 20 seconds anyway. I'm wondering if gE just needs to take that approach with our own grandax. :th_twocents:
I simply read what the man said (repeatedly). I know you really all raged :curse: up right now because your party establishment never wants to listen to people such as yourself, but please try and calm down.
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:lol: :lol: :lol:
Erdogan repeatedly said that that the Syrian (Turkish border) operation was going to happen no matter what. As I've said before, the fundamental idiocy and lack of knowledge about the Kurdish-Turkish situation as exhibited by LibBot Nation was absolutely incredible and amaze. Not to mention the fundamental inability of LibBot Nation to admit that the United States never had any business being in Syria . . . ever, it was the war mongers Obama-Clinton that put us there (I'll leave out the destruction of Libya for this conversation).
NATO costs the U.S. $26 billion dollars a year in direct spending either via the direct funding of NATO itself coupled with the U.S. military bases in NATO countries. What isn't calculated is the billions spent to ensure the U.S. has the ability to rapidly respond to support NATO because the piss ant underfunded in theater countries in NATO still either grudgingly or fail entirely to live up to the GDP expenditure mandates.
Not a penny spent by NATO countries, other than the U.S. to support Ukraine in terms of lethal aid while Angie Merkel essentially funds the Russian military with her Germanic-Russo only pipelines (how positively Molotov–Ribbentrop).
Now LibBots support Mac talking crap, a guy who is the leader of a country who wouldn't even fully commit to NATO and still picks and chooses what it will or won't support.
:dunno:
European countries have contributed an estimated two-thirds of all of the aid to Ukraine since Russia annexed Crimea in 2014 and launched a conflict in the Donbas region in eastern Ukraine, according to Iain King, a visiting fellow at the Center for Strategic and International Studies. The EU has furthermore donated 40 unarmoured and 44 armoured vehicles, 35 trauma kits and provided training,” another EU fact sheet says.
https://www.factcheck.org/2019/09/trump-wrong-on-european-aid-to-ukraine/
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believing erdogan would attack US forces is absolute lunacy, but if it is what it takes to back Trump, dax is in!
This is the point he needs to drop. It is so rough ridin' dumb it undermines his decent points about the Nato free-loaders. No way turkey risks a single scratch on an american soldier. My crap it is so dumb its hard to type
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believing erdogan would attack US forces is absolute lunacy, but if it is what it takes to back Trump, dax is in!
This is the point he needs to drop. It is so rough ridin' dumb it undermines his decent points about the Nato free-loaders. No way turkey risks a single scratch on an american soldier. My crap it is so dumb its hard to type
:lol:
Turkey was willing to risk complete disenfranchisement from NATO in buying the S-400 (because the previous administration wouldn't sell them our good stuff) do you think they really care if they might hurt some American's in an operation they were planning for over a year or more?
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believing erdogan would attack US forces is absolute lunacy, but if it is what it takes to back Trump, dax is in!
This is the point he needs to drop. It is so rough ridin' dumb it undermines his decent points about the Nato free-loaders. No way turkey risks a single scratch on an american soldier. My crap it is so dumb its hard to type
:lol:
Turkey was willing to risk complete disenfranchisement from NATO in buying the S-400 (because the previous administration wouldn't sell them our good stuff) do you think they really care if they might hurt some American's in an operation they were planning for over a year or more?
Yeah, I think it's safe to say that Erdogan doesn't want to face a war where the best case scenario for him is a public execution at the end of it.
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:lol: :lol: :lol:
Erdogan repeatedly said that that the Syrian (Turkish border) operation was going to happen no matter what. As I've said before, the fundamental idiocy and lack of knowledge about the Kurdish-Turkish situation as exhibited by LibBot Nation was absolutely incredible and amaze. Not to mention the fundamental inability of LibBot Nation to admit that the United States never had any business being in Syria . . . ever, it was the war mongers Obama-Clinton that put us there (I'll leave out the destruction of Libya for this conversation).
NATO costs the U.S. $26 billion dollars a year in direct spending either via the direct funding of NATO itself coupled with the U.S. military bases in NATO countries. What isn't calculated is the billions spent to ensure the U.S. has the ability to rapidly respond to support NATO because the piss ant underfunded in theater countries in NATO still either grudgingly or fail entirely to live up to the GDP expenditure mandates.
Not a penny spent by NATO countries, other than the U.S. to support Ukraine in terms of lethal aid while Angie Merkel essentially funds the Russian military with her Germanic-Russo only pipelines (how positively Molotov–Ribbentrop).
Now LibBots support Mac talking crap, a guy who is the leader of a country who wouldn't even fully commit to NATO and still picks and chooses what it will or won't support.
:dunno:
European countries have contributed an estimated two-thirds of all of the aid to Ukraine since Russia annexed Crimea in 2014 and launched a conflict in the Donbas region in eastern Ukraine, according to Iain King, a visiting fellow at the Center for Strategic and International Studies. The EU has furthermore donated 40 unarmoured and 44 armoured vehicles, 35 trauma kits and provided training,” another EU fact sheet says.
https://www.factcheck.org/2019/09/trump-wrong-on-european-aid-to-ukraine/
You have trouble reading as always, and outside of maybe transporting some troops and ramming something, the vehicles are the next best thing to worthless if the Russian tanks ever start moving.
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believing erdogan would attack US forces is absolute lunacy, but if it is what it takes to back Trump, dax is in!
This is the point he needs to drop. It is so rough ridin' dumb it undermines his decent points about the Nato free-loaders. No way turkey risks a single scratch on an american soldier. My crap it is so dumb its hard to type
:lol:
Turkey was willing to risk complete disenfranchisement from NATO in buying the S-400 (because the previous administration wouldn't sell them our good stuff) do you think they really care if they might hurt some American's in an operation they were planning for over a year or more?
Yeah, I think it's safe to say that Erdogan doesn't want to face a war where the best case scenario for him is a public execution at the end of it.
:lol:
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Brexit
here we go...
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I'm weirdly comforted that the UK is just as mumped up as the US.
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I'm weirdly comforted that the UK is just as mumped up as the US.
I'm not. There is nothing good that comes from this stuff and plenty of REALLY bad stuff.
https://twitter.com/EmmaKennedy/status/1205524297348976640
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I think there is a pretty decent chance that Scotland ends up independent and the UK goes away.
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I think there is a pretty decent chance that Scotland ends up independent and the UK goes away.
that was my initial thought, but i've become convinced that it is a lot less likely than it might appear at first glance.
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We'll buy fossil fuels from the chief Untermensch in Moscow, but screw all the Untermensch in the middle (Angie Merkel)
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I wish we could join the EU.
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I wish we could join the EU.
would be very pleasant.
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They would probably let us join, too.
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we could take the uk's spot and annex scotland as the 51st state.
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If Scotland leaves the UK, does Elizabeth stop being their queen? Do they find a different king or queen or do they just not have one anymore?
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She's still the queen of canada
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Only because Canada didn't have the balls to rise up a pretender. Scotland might do that.
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I'm weirdly comforted that the UK is just as mumped up as the US.
I'm not. There is nothing good that comes from this stuff and plenty of REALLY bad stuff.
https://twitter.com/EmmaKennedy/status/1205524297348976640
Katie Hopkins is not an actual conservative. Unlike here, they don't have an entire party embracing nationalism. This is essentially how the Republicans were in America before 2008.
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Trump is bff with Katie Hopkins. Which tells you all you need to know about either trump or hopkins if you only know about one of them currently.
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What is Brexit about if not nationalism? Isn't immigration (particularly Muslim) also a huge issue for pro Brexit people?
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https://twitter.com/JoshuaPotash/status/1205577542742298624
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Wonder if we get a Indy Scotland or even a United Ireland.
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Both are a plausible option.
Look at the voting map.
Scotland does not want to leave.
Irish border is a significant issue.
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What is Brexit about if not nationalism? Isn't immigration (particularly Muslim) also a huge issue for pro Brexit people?
Yes, nationalism is a huge deal for some pro brexit supporters, but for most the move from the EU is for perceived economic freedom. I personally know a lot of pro brexit brits and they're not nationalists. With yesterday's vote they essentially approved brexit, twice, with the second more emphatic than the first.
This is a pretty basic, but it gets the point across
https://www.forbes.com/sites/johnmauldin/2016/07/05/3-reasons-brits-voted-for-brexit/
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What is Brexit about if not nationalism? Isn't immigration (particularly Muslim) also a huge issue for pro Brexit people?
Yes, nationalism is a huge deal for some pro brexit supporters, but for most the move from the EU is for perceived economic freedom. I personally know a lot of pro brexit brits and they're not nationalists. With yesterday's vote they essentially approved brexit, twice, with the second more emphatic than the first.
This is a pretty basic, but it gets the point across
https://www.forbes.com/sites/johnmauldin/2016/07/05/3-reasons-brits-voted-for-brexit/
Depending on how you view these things, "economic freedom" can be a limited instance of (or perhaps merely a euphemism for) nationalism. My view is that conservatives are largely pretty uninformed and unsophisticated. I bring up their simultaneous views on immigration because they're not coincidental. It's all part of the same package.
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I think there is a pretty decent chance that Scotland ends up independent and the UK goes away.
that was my initial thought, but i've become convinced that it is a lot less likely than it might appear at first glance.
Did you look at Ireland's election results? I think you have the wrong part of the Kingdom.
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What is Brexit about if not nationalism? Isn't immigration (particularly Muslim) also a huge issue for pro Brexit people?
Yes, nationalism is a huge deal for some pro brexit supporters, but for most the move from the EU is for perceived economic freedom. I personally know a lot of pro brexit brits and they're not nationalists. With yesterday's vote they essentially approved brexit, twice, with the second more emphatic than the first.
This is a pretty basic, but it gets the point across
https://www.forbes.com/sites/johnmauldin/2016/07/05/3-reasons-brits-voted-for-brexit/
Depending on how you view these things, "economic freedom" can be a limited instance of (or perhaps merely a euphemism for) nationalism. My view is that conservatives are largely pretty uninformed and unsophisticated. I bring up their simultaneous views on immigration because they're not coincidental. It's all part of the same package.
If that's your view nothing's going to change your mind, there are plenty of articles out there that indicate there are many reasons outside of immigration & nationalism to support Brexit. There have long been issues that Brits have had with industry regulation and it is fact that the EU economy is stagnant, and has been for a while. This week's election, can be argued, was just as much about the NHS than it was Brexit.
It isn't just conservatives there that support Brexit, the Labour Party has pro-Brexit factions. If I were in the UK I would not for Brexit, however it's ignorant to paint it as simply anti-immigrant legislation.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/immigration-worries-drove-the-brexit-vote-then-attitudes-changed/2018/11/16/c216b6a2-bcdb-11e8-8243-f3ae9c99658a_story.html?outputType=amp
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I appreciate that MIR usually has nuanced views of issues.
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however it's ignorant to paint it as simply anti-immigrant legislation.
and to the extent it is about immigration it's at least as much about polish immigrants as muslim immigrants. as a rule, americans seem to have a hard time understanding european prejudices because we are so racialized that we assume the whole world shares that mindset.
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however it's ignorant to paint it as simply anti-immigrant legislation.
and to the extent it is about immigration it's at least as much about polish immigrants as muslim immigrants. as a rule, americans seem to have a hard time understanding european prejudices because we are so racialized that we assume the whole world shares that mindset.
Well said
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There are also many reasons given to support BUILD THE WALL. I'm talking about why lots of dumb fucks actually support it. The UK has its dumb fucks, too. We all have human brains with similar psychological characteristics regardless of which side of the Atlanric we're on.
And good grief. Muslim immigration is a huge issue in lots of Europe, including the UK.
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Muslim immigration is a huge issue in lots of Europe, including the UK.
yeah, it is, for sure.
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Is “Gypsy” a slur?
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You're not supposed to say you got "gypped" if like chipotle doesn't give you enough meat in your burrito, for example
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https://twitter.com/faizashaheen/status/1205996430592221184
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you have to believe internet women
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Is “Gypsy” a slur?
On its own, no. Gypsies are an ethnic group, unfortunately their name is frequently slurred though, most often in mocat's example. Gypsies in Europe are treated extremely poorly.
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They know that the term "Gypsy" has come to have a negative connotation. They refer to themselves as Romani.
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They know that the term "Gypsy" has come to have a negative connotation. They refer to themselves as Romani.
Yeah, but I still call those fuckers Gypsies.
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I knew Stevie Nicks was a racist.
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You're not supposed to say you got "gypped" if like chipotle doesn't give you enough meat in your burrito, for example
Yeah I learned that on this very blog a few years ago. I had no idea it was a reference to gypsies until then
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Less than 15% of Germany’s attack and transport helicopters are air worthy.
I suppose it’s good that our “ally” Germany is buying off Putin with petroEuro’s while living under the warm comfy protective blanket of $733 billion dollars of US taxpayer paid protection.
In other news, Germany is conducting nation wide terror raids.
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LMAOOOooooo
https://twitter.com/colinbrowning14/status/1227906931450425344
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Hahaha
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That’s not the top of first world problems (and in the year of our FSM 2020, the list of first world problems is glorious in length and depth), but it’s damn close.
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EU: No border checks or closings due to the flu (just the flu), common cold or the thing that RUIN/UIN is completely melting down about because some people on Twitter say some things.
Apparently border closings will send the "wrong message".
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The LibDork Nation's beloved EU: Still showing it's love for Syrian Refugees now leaving Syria in mass (Congrats again Barry Obama and friends, your endgame is moving ahead well)
https://twitter.com/Stone_SkyNews/status/1234454621818703873?s=20
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Angie Merkel, the German (and defacto EU leader) leader, who over see's her country pumping billions of dollars into Vlad Putin's pockets (but not a Russian puppet, tho) continues to tell Syrian Refugee's to go eff themselves (she's still beloved by UIN's far and wide, tho):
https://twitter.com/inespohl/status/1234540733123768325?s=20
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Turkey sending troops to prevent refugees from returning to Turkey. Refugees that LibDork Nations beloved EU won’t allow in.
SMDH
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EU (LibDork Nation's Favorite) is now sending nearly $1 Billion to Greece to put up a human wall against Syrian Refugees.
Such humanitarians.
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a wall made out of humans or what? pretty cheap
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a wall made out of humans or what? pretty cheap
Military and Police. Meanwhile Erdo sent in the Turkish special forces 1000 strong to make sure they don't head back into Turkey.
Congrats again Barry, Leon and Hillary. A little late, but the endgame is being realized. Congrats.
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What was the end game again?
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What was the end game again?
Destabilize Syria and force a mass migration.
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What was the end game again?
Destabilize Syria and force a mass migration.
Yes, but what's the end game? Destroying Western culture?
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What was the end game again?
Destabilize Syria and force a mass migration.
Yes, but what's the end game? Destroying Western culture?
I don't know about that, but 4 million refugees is a substantial destabilizing factor. It's caused a great burden on Turkey, which in turn has driven Turkish militarism, which in turn impacts the NATO alliance. It's now pushing those millions into Europe or at least trying to push them into Europe.
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You think this is revenge against Europe on Barry's part?
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You think this is revenge against Europe on Barry's part?
When you put it up against the test of why was the United States via proxy doing what they were doing in Syria these kinds of things have to be considered. Because there's no reasonable explanation and the administration neither offered an explanation nor was ever truly asked by anyone of substance to provide an explanation. The Obama administrations weird direct/proxy war on secular leaning regimes in the Middle East is one of the weirdest things I've ever seen from a foreign policy perspective. Particularly knowing they had no real intent of being heavily engaged in the rebuilding. Had Assad been overthrown the blood bath would have been many fold what it is and was.
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Maybe he wanted to replace Europeans with his people?
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Maybe he wanted to replace Europeans with his people?
You’re such a dork.
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https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2020/03/27/eu_tempers_fray_as_coronavirus_hits_lives_livelihoods_economies_142797.html
But the nine rapid-economic action countries want the immediate rollout of “coronabonds,” shared debt backed by all. This would let even those hardest-hit nations borrow at sustainably low interest rates as their spending balloons on hospitals, measures to pay wages and to stop bankruptcies. Germany and the Netherlands do not agree.
Many early responses to the virus at the national level - uncoordinated actions like the partial closure of borders, some of which have disrupted European medical and food supply chains, or the failure of nervous governments to share masks with countries in need - also seem to have undermined mutual trust.
It’s a commodity that once lost could prove very hard to restore, particularly among expectant citizens.
“When Europe really needed to be there for each other, too many initially looked out for themselves. When Europe really needed an ‘all for one’ spirit, too many initially gave an ‘only for me’ response,” European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen said Thursday.
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Yeah all the border controls going up immediately was one thing, the economic fallout and the distrust and anger when Germany (have you looked at their tiny infection and death rates?) comes out against helping Spain and Italy plus be pretty bad.
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i don't know how it is that i missed this at the time.
https://twitter.com/agraybee/status/1254446483769896960
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/labour-hq-used-facebook-ads-to-deceive-jeremy-corbyn-during-election-campaign-grlx75c27
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The labour party establishment is at least as bad the dems.
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they did almost win that time.
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they did almost win that time.
being completely incoherent on Brexit (and the fact that it splits their constituents worse than the Tories) was/is their biggest problem.
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yeah, i doubt if their two-pronged facebook ads were why they came closer against may.
i think they were incoherent on brexit because there was no real winning position to be had - as you said, it splits labour in a way that any position would have alienated enough voters that they'd have lost.
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https://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/top-stories/boris-johnson-wants-eu-workers-to-return-ahead-of-brexit-1-6684193
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we've got a deal!
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https://twitter.com/BThroughParty/status/1363067190891675650
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LOL
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https://twitter.com/Aiden_CDN/status/1620586606360162306
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https://twitter.com/Aiden_CDN/status/1620586606360162306
They were warned Brexit was a stupid Idea.......another country where the Rupert Murdoch Brain worm Virus as infected their populace
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https://twitter.com/Aiden_CDN/status/1620586606360162306
They were warned Brexit was a stupid Idea.......another country where the Rupert Murdoch Brain worm Virus as infected their populace
It never made any sense for what they had with the EU so of course it was going to be this, just, so dumb as usual
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How do you say taze your own balls to death in british?
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I have britishwood is going to come in here and whip all your asses
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I have britishwood is going to come in here and whip all your asses
I am not sure there is a ton of disagreement. The other reasons for brexit are still out there but I think it has been proven that economically they Rogered themselves right proper