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Title: Tesla
Post by: steve dave on April 14, 2016, 05:47:19 PM
I reserved a Tesla Model 3 the day they opened availability. What do you guys put the odds of me eventually taking delivery of it at?
Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: steve dave on April 14, 2016, 05:49:11 PM
If I could get it in 2017 I'd say like 90%. But I'm guessing it'll be late '18. I don't know if I wait that long. THOUGHTS?
Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: steve dave on April 14, 2016, 05:49:21 PM
1k UR points tho
Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: pissclams on April 14, 2016, 05:59:59 PM
base model or optioned out?
Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: steve dave on April 14, 2016, 06:05:47 PM
Can't pick options yet
Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: pissclams on April 14, 2016, 06:14:11 PM
when you can pick them i mean.  when tesla builds their cars, they build the high margin cars first.  these are the optioned out model 3's that will compare in price to a mercedes AMG (~$60k).  once they get through those, they begin on the base models.  the problem is that the folks who buy the base models will probably not be getting the fed tax credit because by then, enough models will have been sold by tesla (+200k) that the credit will at least be partially phased out, if not completely gone. 

so basically, depending on what options you want and how much you want to spend will determine when you get your car.  it could pay to get more options that will actually reduce the cost by still qualifying for the credit before it's gone. ($12,500)
Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: pissclams on April 14, 2016, 06:26:16 PM
that is to say, when they build their new model cars and have, for example, 100 orders for the model 3,  they're going to start with the expensive model 3's and work their way down to the guy who is getting bare bones.
Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: wetwillie on April 14, 2016, 06:39:15 PM
Sounds like a more high stakes version of go fund me.  It looks like a great car though.
Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: pissclams on April 14, 2016, 06:45:32 PM
Sounds like a more high stakes version of go fund me.

except tesla's market cap is $34B
Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: wetwillie on April 14, 2016, 06:51:08 PM
I should leave the analogies to catzacker
Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: Phil Titola on April 14, 2016, 06:56:07 PM
2Q19 :Crybaby:
Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: cfbandyman on April 14, 2016, 06:58:09 PM
Booked mine the same day as well and in store (dunno if you did that at all sd or if you did it online). 'Clams is right on how they will do it, building the most expensive model and then moving on to the base. I guess it all really depends on how they are actually able to ramp up production, which is obviously dubious at best. If they are able to get to the "500k/year" pretty quick, let alone getting it to production, everyone who ordered so far (335k) will get all if not most of the credit, if only cause the tax credit doesn't stop right when 200k cars are made, there is like a quarter (or 2, so 3 or 6 months after the number is hit) that the full credit still applies, and then it goes to 50% for another 3-6 months, and then it totally goes away.

Basically you are near the top of Tesla's shipment if:

-Most Expensive Model (all options)
-West Coast/location based (Elon said West Coast customers would get first due to easier shipping and then move east)
-Time of deposit
-Deposit in store vs online (especially day of, Elon seemed to make a point that in store would get special gifts and priority, which they would get anyways since online didn't happen until much later that night)

My expectation is to get mine before my 30th birthday (Dec '18). I will get a few options but not all (my budget is ~40k and that number is solely based off of model s prices for options, so it will be different the question is how much), I'm in KC, and I got it about noon the day of in store. But who knows, while I love the idea and the cars, they have not hit a single deadline like ever, so deliveries starting late 2017" could easily be pushed starting "mid 2019" hopefully no on it being that long.
Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: pissclams on April 14, 2016, 07:31:22 PM
If they are able to get to the "500k/year" pretty quick, let alone getting it to production, everyone who ordered so far (335k) will get all if not most of the credit, if only cause the tax credit doesn't stop right when 200k cars are made, there is like a quarter (or 2, so 3 or 6 months after the number is hit) that the full credit still applies, and then it goes to 50% for another 3-6 months, and then it totally goes away.

the fed tax credit phase out begins at 200k production vehicles.  then 6 mo of 50%, then 6 mo of 25%, then 0.  i'm not sure where you got your info from, son, but check irs irc 30d.

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The new qualified plug-in electric drive motor vehicle credit phases out for a manufacturer’s vehicles over the one-year period beginning with the second calendar quarter after the calendar quarter in which at least 200,000 qualifying vehicles manufactured by that manufacturer have been sold for use in the United States (determined on a cumulative basis for sales after December 31, 2009) (“phase-out period”). Qualifying vehicles manufactured by that manufacturer are eligible for 50 percent of the credit if acquired in the first two quarters of the phase-out period and 25 percent of the credit if acquired in the third or fourth quarter of the phase-out period. Vehicles manufactured by that manufacturer are not eligible for a credit if acquired after the phase-out period. After December 31, 2009, a vehicle that qualifies for a credit under § 30 does not qualify for the credit under § 30D.

you can't assume that tesla is going to hit 200k in february 201x

some states like colorado have another $6k with no phase out on top of the fed credit

Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: pissclams on April 14, 2016, 07:33:04 PM
what we have here is a good old fashioned fed ev tax credit-off

but tbh, you shouldn't be buying one of these cars if you're banking on the credit anyway.  and i think everyone in this thread is doing just that, you sob's.
Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: cfbandyman on April 14, 2016, 07:57:19 PM
If they are able to get to the "500k/year" pretty quick, let alone getting it to production, everyone who ordered so far (335k) will get all if not most of the credit, if only cause the tax credit doesn't stop right when 200k cars are made, there is like a quarter (or 2, so 3 or 6 months after the number is hit) that the full credit still applies, and then it goes to 50% for another 3-6 months, and then it totally goes away.

the fed tax credit phase out begins at 200k production vehicles.  then 6 mo of 50%, then 6 mo of 25%, then 0.  i'm not sure where you got your info from, son, but check irs irc 30d.

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The new qualified plug-in electric drive motor vehicle credit phases out for a manufacturer’s vehicles over the one-year period beginning with the second calendar quarter after the calendar quarter in which at least 200,000 qualifying vehicles manufactured by that manufacturer have been sold for use in the United States (determined on a cumulative basis for sales after December 31, 2009) (“phase-out period”). Qualifying vehicles manufactured by that manufacturer are eligible for 50 percent of the credit if acquired in the first two quarters of the phase-out period and 25 percent of the credit if acquired in the third or fourth quarter of the phase-out period. Vehicles manufactured by that manufacturer are not eligible for a credit if acquired after the phase-out period. After December 31, 2009, a vehicle that qualifies for a credit under § 30 does not qualify for the credit under § 30D.

you can't assume that tesla is going to hit 200k in february 201x

some states like colorado have another $6k with no phase out on top of the fed credit

1) Way to not read at all what I wrote, since basically what I said is exactly what you put (only thing I was unsure about what the actual time frame which I admitted to (1Q vs 2Q) of the phase out and missed the 25% part, sue me)

2) I didn't assume that at all Tesla would be making 335k in 1 quarter, let alone 3, but if they hit it right (not likely) you could push out a ton of cars in Q1, hit 200k during that Q, and then have Q2 and Q3 still at 100% fed refund and maybe get 100k full bore.

3) I don't care about state refunds cause KS is not CO

4) Not banking on the credit at all, I'm not poors clams jesus
Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: pissclams on April 14, 2016, 08:06:23 PM
3) take it down a notch, son.  i read your post 3 times and either i'm special or you are, but what you typed didn't make any sense

e) i don't care where you live, this thread and my post wasn't solely focused on your WHORE ass

(N i don't care if you're banking on a credit or a debit, just mentioning that most won't be getting one and shouldn't count on one, son

6><  i don't  know why anyone would buy a car from a manufacturer who can't seem to produce a car without an assload of recalls

R) sal perez
Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: The Big Train on April 14, 2016, 08:37:17 PM
Mods please rename to tax law thread TIA
Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: pissclams on April 14, 2016, 08:40:10 PM
Mods please rename to tax law thread TIA

one of my favorite classes at k-state!!  tbt, did you take/like it?
Title: Tesla
Post by: The Big Train on April 14, 2016, 08:42:02 PM
Mods please rename to tax law thread TIA

one of my favorite classes at k-state!!  tbt, did you take/like it?

Finance and accounting were my least favorite courses I ever took at KSU, in that order.

Now you want to talk theoretical physics and applied math... :excited:
Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: The Big Train on April 14, 2016, 08:42:56 PM
So no, I hate tax law
Title: Tesla
Post by: steve dave on April 14, 2016, 09:11:37 PM
Yeah, I know all that. Without knowing the options I don't know what I'd get. Assume they would bring it to around 50k.
Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: wetwillie on April 14, 2016, 09:12:23 PM
Do they a bunch of superchargers in sarpy county?
Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: steve dave on April 14, 2016, 09:14:43 PM
Do they a bunch of superchargers in sarpy county?

Just one location
Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 14, 2016, 09:18:45 PM
Tesla dealership in Charlotte.  3 Cars.
Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: Trim on April 14, 2016, 09:26:12 PM
What's special about these cars?
Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: Phil Titola on April 14, 2016, 09:31:12 PM
What's special about these cars?

sex + battery
Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: Pete on April 14, 2016, 10:03:24 PM
I buy used cars.
Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: steve dave on April 15, 2016, 07:42:59 AM
What's special about these cars?

they can go round trip between omaha and lincoln 5 days a week without using any gas. they are pretty much the safest cars on the road. they have cool tech. stuff that makes sure you don't crash/leave your lane/parks for you/etc. (I think a lot of cars are starting to get this tho). they are sexy af. they are fast (I don't really care about this).
Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: 8manpick on April 15, 2016, 08:01:27 AM
Also the Model S P85 D has 691 HP which is pretty cool
Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: Ptolemy on April 15, 2016, 08:23:46 AM
If you guys hadn't noticed, gas is cheap. Finding a charger for your golf cart is a pain in the ass.

Once had a client in Frisco drive me to their facility and we started out in his Nissan Leaf for what was an 80 mile round trip. It was fairly warm that day so he rolled the windows down to avoid running the A/C and running down the power. As we hit the Golden Gate Bridge he noticed the battery reserve scrolling down to 40% and he had to turn around and go back to his house and get his Mercedes so we wouldn't get stranded. That's progress for ya' - Obama Style!
Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: 8manpick on April 15, 2016, 08:25:21 AM
Rusty is probably going to punch you for that, sock
Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: steve dave on April 15, 2016, 08:29:29 AM
If you guys hadn't noticed, gas is cheap. Finding a charger for your golf cart is a pain in the ass.

Once had a client in Frisco drive me to their facility and we started out in his Nissan Leaf for what was an 80 mile round trip. It was fairly warm that day so he rolled the windows down to avoid running the A/C and running down the power. As we hit the Golden Gate Bridge he noticed the battery reserve scrolling down to 40% and he had to turn around and go back to his house and get his Mercedes so we wouldn't get stranded. That's progress for ya' - Obama Style!

I enjoy reading your posts
Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: Trim on April 15, 2016, 08:54:12 AM
What's special about these cars?

they can go round trip between omaha and lincoln 5 days a week without using any gas. they are pretty much the safest cars on the road. they have cool tech. stuff that makes sure you don't crash/leave your lane/parks for you/etc. (I think a lot of cars are starting to get this tho). they are sexy af. they are fast (I don't really care about this).

Ah, a long-lasting battery. What's preventing the other e-cars from having a battery like that?

There's a tesla shop in an odd part of town that I ran past when i tried a different route last summer and I meant to learn all this stuff when I got home but I saw a bunch of other weird stuff on the way and forgot until now.
Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: wetwillie on April 15, 2016, 09:18:17 AM
frisco is a lovely suburb in Dallas and has no bridges so I know this clown is a liar.
Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: Phil Titola on April 15, 2016, 09:37:23 AM
What's special about these cars?

they can go round trip between omaha and lincoln 5 days a week without using any gas. they are pretty much the safest cars on the road. they have cool tech. stuff that makes sure you don't crash/leave your lane/parks for you/etc. (I think a lot of cars are starting to get this tho). they are sexy af. they are fast (I don't really care about this).

Ah, a long-lasting battery. What's preventing the other e-cars from having a battery like that?

There's a tesla shop in an odd part of town that I ran past when i tried a different route last summer and I meant to learn all this stuff when I got home but I saw a bunch of other weird stuff on the way and forgot until now.

Someone needs to create a non-gopro gopro thing that can help one remember things they see out while running and biking. This happens to me all the time and I never remember what it was when I got home.... To the distance running thread!
Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: pissclams on April 15, 2016, 09:57:44 AM
I don't care for them at all and I remember a thread about cars and this place was all about utilitarian vehicles
Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: sys on April 15, 2016, 11:21:45 AM
heard someone on a radio saying that a lot of the reservations are being placed as speculation and the holders will sell their place in line when the time comes, rather than take delivery.

so if you decide you don't want it, maybe you can do that.
Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: Dlew12 on April 15, 2016, 12:27:27 PM
cars are for the birds.  BUSSES AND TRAINS are where the real luxury lies.
Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: pissclams on April 15, 2016, 12:38:17 PM
heard someone on a radio saying that a lot of the reservations are being placed as speculation and the holders will sell their place in line when the time comes, rather than take delivery.

so if you decide you don't want it, maybe you can do that.
they made it really easy and really cheap to reserve a car that's never been manufactured before.
I am very interested to see when they start moving them off of the line and how many of the reserved cars go to the person who made the original reservation
Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on April 15, 2016, 01:44:31 PM
Dumb question, but those charging stations I occasionally see around town - those cost money to use, right? How does "filling up" a car with electricity compare to gas at $2 a gallon?

My AC units have heat pumps that I don't even use because the cost of heating my home with electric is so much more expensive than NG. But maybe gasoline is more expensive than electricity?
Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: EMAWican on April 15, 2016, 01:45:37 PM
Tesla is the Apple of cars. Once the other auto markers catch up, which it sounds like quick a few already have, you'll just be paying for the cult name.
Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: steve dave on April 15, 2016, 01:48:57 PM
Dumb question, but those charging stations I occasionally see around town - those cost money to use, right? How does "filling up" a car with electricity compare to gas at $2 a gallon?

My AC units have heat pumps that I don't even use because the cost of heating my home with electric is so much more expensive than NG. But maybe gasoline is more expensive than electricity?

Tesla super charger stations are free but right now there aren't a lot of them, and it takes 20 minutes to charge to 50% (but they usually put them next to a starbucks  :D ). Musk says they will add a ton of them soon though.
Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: steve dave on April 15, 2016, 01:49:31 PM
Tesla is the Apple of cars. Once the other auto markers catch up, which it sounds like quick a few already have, you'll just be paying for the cult name.

 :lol:
Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: steve dave on April 15, 2016, 01:54:53 PM
I don't care for them at all and I remember a thread about cars and this place was all about utilitarian vehicles

I dislike cars but I like tesla cars. I have a lot of mac products tho :dunno:
Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: libstradamus on April 15, 2016, 01:58:51 PM
The charging station in Topeka is in an Arby's parking lot. (Starbucks a blockish away)
Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: steve dave on April 15, 2016, 02:00:03 PM
The charging station in Topeka is in an Arby's parking lot. (Starbucks a blockish away)

that's fine for topeka
Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: libstradamus on April 15, 2016, 02:00:48 PM
Yeah, pretty good actually
Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: Dlew12 on April 15, 2016, 02:00:52 PM
arby's aint bad.  jamocha shakes.   :drool:
Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: Trim on April 15, 2016, 02:03:23 PM
Arby's >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> starbucks
Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: _33 on April 15, 2016, 02:08:36 PM
Tesla is the Apple of cars. Once the other auto markers catch up, which it sounds like quick a few already have, you'll just be paying for the cult name.

Hemmy nodded approvingly after reading this post and then went back to building his own car for half the price of the Tesla.
Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: pissclams on April 15, 2016, 02:11:32 PM
Dumb question, but those charging stations I occasionally see around town - those cost money to use, right?

they're free.  an incentive to buy EV.  in LA those spots are always full, in KC, they're always empty.  not for long though
Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: steve dave on April 15, 2016, 02:13:01 PM
Tesla is the Apple of cars. Once the other auto markers catch up, which it sounds like quick a few already have, you'll just be paying for the cult name.

Hemmy nodded approvingly after reading this post and then went back to building his own car for half the price of the Tesla.

 :lol:
Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: TCUHornedFrog on April 15, 2016, 02:27:17 PM
Also the Model S P85 D has 691 HP which is pretty cool

Yes.  It is rough ridin' awesome.
Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: TCUHornedFrog on April 15, 2016, 02:30:44 PM
Ah, a long-lasting battery. What's preventing the other e-cars from having a battery like that?

They don't have Elon Musk to beat their engineers into designing an acceptable one?   :dunno:
Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on April 15, 2016, 02:43:00 PM
Dumb question, but those charging stations I occasionally see around town - those cost money to use, right?

they're free.  an incentive to buy EV.  in LA those spots are always full, in KC, they're always empty.  not for long though

So it only costs money if I fill up at home? How's that compare to paying for gas?
Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: steve dave on April 15, 2016, 02:45:58 PM
Dumb question, but those charging stations I occasionally see around town - those cost money to use, right?

they're free.  an incentive to buy EV.  in LA those spots are always full, in KC, they're always empty.  not for long though

So it only costs money if I fill up at home? How's that compare to paying for gas?

how much do you pay for a kWh?

$8.10 to fill up a Model S if you're paying .09 kWh
Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: wetwillie on April 15, 2016, 02:47:27 PM
I pay 12 cents per kilowatt
Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: steve dave on April 15, 2016, 02:49:04 PM
I pay 12 cents per kilowatt

you'd pay $10.80 to fill up a model S which can go about 250 miles. I don't think there's data on the new model 3 though. should be more efficient since the S has like over a million HP.
Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: The Big Train on April 15, 2016, 02:49:17 PM
Doc brown probably pays a crap ton to fill up :sdeek:
Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: Pete on April 15, 2016, 02:50:16 PM
They look cool as eff, and I love the idea of electric cars.

If I could get a used one for about half the price of new, and be fairly sure I could drive it regularly for a decade without persistent issues, then sign me up. 

Typically, I buy used Hondas and Acura's.
Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: steve dave on April 15, 2016, 02:54:06 PM
Model S:

"Fuel" efficiency and cost

To cover 15,243 miles, I used 5,074 kWh of electricity, for an average of 333 watt-hours per mile.  That's a bit better than the car's EPA-rated efficiency of  350 Wh/mi, and converts to precisely 3 miles per kWh.

I used about 1,275 kWh of free Supercharger power on three long road trips totaling about 4,000 miles. So about 3,800 kWh of the 5,074-kWh total came through my electric meter.At my local utility's rate of 14 cents/kWh, that works out to a total fuel cost for the year of  $530, or about 3.4 cents/mile. Contrast that to about $3,000 and 20 cents/mile for a comparable car like the Mercedes S Class.

But the Model S actually used  more electricity than the 5,074 kWh on the car's energy meter.

For one thing, the charging process is only about 85 percent efficient. Which means that  for every 85 kWh used by the car, 100 kWh came through my electric meter. In reality, that 5,074-kWh number is actually more like 5,700 kWh.

In addition, my car's "vampire" power draw while parked and shut down averaged about 4.5 kWh per day for the first 10 months, and then about 1 kWh per day after a software update two months ago. I estimate the vampire draw sucked up an additional 1,400 kWh or so.

That brings total actual energy usage for the year: about 7,100 kWh--putting efficiency at about 466 Wh/mile, or about 2.1 miles/kWh.

The vampire and charging losses bumped the year's real fuel cost up to  $820, or about 5.3 cents per mile. Which is still barely a quarter of the fuel cost of a comparable gasoline car.
Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: wetwillie on April 15, 2016, 03:00:39 PM
I pay 12 cents per kilowatt

you'd pay $10.80 to fill up a model S which can go about 250 miles. I don't think there's data on the new model 3 though. should be more efficient since the S has like over a million HP.

My current rig can get 30mpg and has a 12 gallon tank.  That's 360 miles @ 24$ ($2 a gallon) or 6.7 cents per mile.  The tesla would get like 4.3 cents per mile.  That's a savings of $360 per year if I drive 15,000 a year.  I probably mocat's that math though.
Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: 8manpick on April 15, 2016, 03:18:08 PM
Dumb question, but those charging stations I occasionally see around town - those cost money to use, right? How does "filling up" a car with electricity compare to gas at $2 a gallon?

My AC units have heat pumps that I don't even use because the cost of heating my home with electric is so much more expensive than NG. But maybe gasoline is more expensive than electricity?

Not accounting for the different motor efficiencies, a gallon of gas has about 115 kBtus of energy, which is 33.4 kWh.  If efficiencies are similar, the electricity would be slightly pricier at this point, but it is comparable.  That said, the building I live in has like 8 charging stations which I believe are free if you live there.
Title: Tesla
Post by: 8manpick on April 15, 2016, 03:20:41 PM
A 60 KWh battery for the Tesla model S is rated for 230 miles. So for about $6 you get 230 miles on the electric car.
Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: Fedor on April 15, 2016, 03:22:39 PM
The charging stations are supposed to be able to charge in a few minutes rather than overnight at your home.  Also as I understand it the charging stations are for cross country travel and not for daily charging.  I don't know what the consequences of abuse will be, Tesla will probably have to lock people out eventually.  In the mean time me and my squad of vigilante hackers are fully capable of modifying the parking sequence to jerk the wheel into a bridge abutment while the dirtbags are cruising down the highway at 80 mph.   
Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: pissclams on April 15, 2016, 03:44:16 PM
long term, tesla is in the battery business, not the car biz
Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: kim carnes on April 15, 2016, 04:01:16 PM
My teslas like yessuh
Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on April 15, 2016, 04:16:42 PM
Thanks for all the info. I've got a hybrid now and love it. I'm hoping to get at least 4 more years out of it, but my next car will almost certainly be all electric. I appreciate you early adopters paying a higher price to be beta testers. Of course, by the time I buy I doubt that ridiculous tax credit will still be available (talk about a "tax cut for the rich"), and electricity will be more expensive.
Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: Pete on April 16, 2016, 05:53:53 PM
I am jealous.  I want one.

I doubt I will be in a position to buy one for the next 15 years.  Once I get these rascals through college (hoping they decide on electrician or plumbing apprenticeship instead), then it's on. 
Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: wetwillie on April 16, 2016, 05:54:55 PM
I am jealous.  I want one.

I doubt I will be in a position to buy one for the next 15 years.  Once I get these rascals through college (hoping they decide on electrician or plumbing apprenticeship instead), then it's on. 

15 years from now no one will own a car. 
Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: ChiCat on April 18, 2016, 11:30:38 AM
Meh, I'll get solar installed and then get the model 3 once it actually comes out and gets put through the paces. 
Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: Ptolemy on April 18, 2016, 03:32:54 PM
I am jealous.  I want one.

I doubt I will be in a position to buy one for the next 15 years.  Once I get these rascals through college (hoping they decide on electrician or plumbing apprenticeship instead), then it's on. 

15 years from now no one will own a car.

Al Gore said we will all be dead by then anyway, so no need for an electric car.
Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on April 19, 2016, 08:14:37 AM
Gas is just way too convenient for me to consider electric.
Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: wetwillie on April 19, 2016, 08:44:01 AM
Gas is just way too convenient for me to consider electric.

Filling up your tank so to speak at your house is easier than going to a gas station.  I don't think I understand what you mean.
Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: EMAWican on April 19, 2016, 09:02:26 AM
Gas is just way too convenient for me to consider electric.

That reminds me of when the first time the KC Tesla stealership came down to Wichita for test drives for a small group of us. They drove two Model S' (Ses'?, Sessess'?) and I asked "So you can make it to Wichita and back to KC on one charge and with the test drives?" "Well we probably could make it down here, but just to be safe we came through Topeka, you know since it's the same distance, and had lunch at Arby's while they got a boost charge. And then topped off here in Wichita before we came over this way. It's so convenient."   :blank:

The product itself is mind-blowingly awesome and fresh, but for the price and inconvenience of it being basically a second car, it's not worth it to me.
Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: Skipper44 on April 19, 2016, 09:15:22 AM
Gas is just way too convenient for me to consider electric.

That reminds me of when the first time the KC Tesla stealership came down to Wichita for test drives for a small group of us. They drove two Model S' (Ses'?, Sessess'?) and I asked "So you can make it to Wichita and back to KC on one charge and with the test drives?" "Well we probably could make it down here, but just to be safe we came through Topeka, you know since it's the same distance, and had lunch at Arby's while they got a boost charge. And then topped off here in Wichita before we came over this way. It's so convenient."   :blank:

The product itself is mind-blowingly awesome and fresh, but for the price and inconvenience of it being basically a second car, it's not worth it to me.
yes, I see quite a few of these rolling around SoJoCo and they are always driven by 40+ looking dudes that I am sure have at least one and likely 2 or more vehicles in the garage. 

Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: steve dave on April 19, 2016, 09:46:11 AM
Gas is just way too convenient for me to consider electric.

it depends on what you'll be using it for. if you're commuting every day from Omaha to Lincoln or KC to Lawrence it's pretty great to never have to stop for gas again. much more convenient than filling up every 3 or 4 days at the gas station.
Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: Skipper44 on April 19, 2016, 10:01:06 AM
Gas is just way too convenient for me to consider electric.

it depends on what you'll be using it for. if you're commuting every day from Omaha to Lincoln or KC to Lawrence it's pretty great to never have to stop for gas again. much more convenient than filling up every 3 or 4 days at the gas station.
yes, it is basically the perfect work car while the wife drives whatever SUV floats her boat and he has a sports car or truck as his weekend car depending on where he is on the golfer to hunter continuum.
Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: Ptolemy on April 19, 2016, 10:43:25 AM
it depends on what you'll be using it for. if you're commuting every day from Omaha to Lincoln or KC to Lawrence it's pretty great to never have to stop for gas again. much more convenient than filling up every 3 or 4 days at the gas station.

Doubly nice that you're conserving our depleting resources of crude oil in favor of coal. The US is the Saudi Arabia of coal you know!
Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: steve dave on April 19, 2016, 11:00:28 AM
haha, classic ptolemy
Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: puniraptor on April 22, 2016, 06:12:17 PM
Gas is just way too convenient for me to consider electric.

That reminds me of when the first time the KC Tesla stealership came down to Wichita for test drives for a small group of us. They drove two Model S' (Ses'?, Sessess'?) and I asked "So you can make it to Wichita and back to KC on one charge and with the test drives?" "Well we probably could make it down here, but just to be safe we came through Topeka, you know since it's the same distance, and had lunch at Arby's while they got a boost charge. And then topped off here in Wichita before we came over this way. It's so convenient."   :blank:

The product itself is mind-blowingly awesome and fresh, but for the price and inconvenience of it being basically a second car, it's not worth it to me.
Models S

Great internal plural oppy
Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: cfbandyman on April 22, 2016, 08:51:47 PM
Gas is just way too convenient for me to consider electric.

Filling up your tank so to speak at your house is easier than going to a gas station.  I don't think I understand what you mean.

Yup, I don't get it either. If people only thought about their typical daily driving habits, and where the car ends up every night, or during the say (work, school, etc) there are plenty of opportunities to charge the car up, all without having to go out of your way to "fill it up"
Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: cfbandyman on April 22, 2016, 08:53:41 PM
Gas is just way too convenient for me to consider electric.

That reminds me of when the first time the KC Tesla stealership came down to Wichita for test drives for a small group of us. They drove two Model S' (Ses'?, Sessess'?) and I asked "So you can make it to Wichita and back to KC on one charge and with the test drives?" "Well we probably could make it down here, but just to be safe we came through Topeka, you know since it's the same distance, and had lunch at Arby's while they got a boost charge. And then topped off here in Wichita before we came over this way. It's so convenient."   :blank:

The product itself is mind-blowingly awesome and fresh, but for the price and inconvenience of it being basically a second car, it's not worth it to me.
yes, I see quite a few of these rolling around SoJoCo and they are always driven by 40+ looking dudes that I am sure have at least one and likely 2 or more vehicles in the garage.

I would expect that of anyone who is purchasing a car that starts at 60k, regardless of how environmentally conscience they may be.
Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: pissclams on April 01, 2018, 09:56:24 PM
https://seekingalpha.com/amp/article/4160351-tesla-model-3-costs-charge-gasoline-car
Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on April 02, 2018, 07:19:08 PM
Planning your entire day/week around when you will have a spare hour to charge your car would be so convenient, though.
Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: cfbandyman on April 03, 2018, 07:14:44 AM
Planning your entire day/week around when you will have a spare hour to charge your car would be so convenient, though.

Thankfully the car plans that for you. Or lolers that you'd think it'd be that hard
Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: cfbandyman on April 03, 2018, 07:17:01 AM
https://seekingalpha.com/amp/article/4160351-tesla-model-3-costs-charge-gasoline-car

Tesla deserves a lot of criticism, but anything from seeking alpha is going to be a hit piece, including this article.
Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: pissclams on May 22, 2018, 10:40:11 AM
https://seekingalpha.com/amp/article/4160351-tesla-model-3-costs-charge-gasoline-car

Tesla deserves a lot of criticism, but anything from seeking alpha is going to be a hit piece, including this article.

https://www.edmunds.com/tesla/model-3/2017/long-term-road-test/2017-tesla-model-3-monthly-update-for-april-2018.html

i think this car may be a piece of trash, hopefully edmunds is an ok source for cfbandyman
Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: ChiCat on May 23, 2018, 08:30:33 AM
https://seekingalpha.com/amp/article/4160351-tesla-model-3-costs-charge-gasoline-car

Tesla deserves a lot of criticism, but anything from seeking alpha is going to be a hit piece, including this article.

https://www.edmunds.com/tesla/model-3/2017/long-term-road-test/2017-tesla-model-3-monthly-update-for-april-2018.html

i think this car may be a piece of trash, hopefully edmunds is an ok source for cfbandyman

I think (hope) that the Model 3 Edmunds got is uniquely shitty.

Although even from other publications, everything I've read on it is pretty disappointing.  Established manufacturers typically have some problems rolling out new models so I'm not surprised that Tesla does when rolling out their first mass produced car.  A lot of the problems that Tesla has seem to originate by not having a filter between a concept car and production.  As "cool" as some of the things look at an auto show, they are a pain in the ass when it comes to day to day operation.

Hoping they get it right in a year or two and I will look at the Model 3 again.
Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: pissclams on May 23, 2018, 09:36:37 AM
a lot of model 3 reviews are similar to edmunds, theirs isn't a unique situation


Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: ChiCat on May 23, 2018, 09:47:38 AM
a lot of model 3 reviews are similar to edmunds, theirs isn't a unique situation


I've seen general disappointment (rough ride/braking distance) and WTF design moments.  I haven't seen mirrors falling off and screen issues.
Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: michigancat on May 23, 2018, 12:55:00 PM
Tesla folks apply to my company constantly, it sounds like a rough ridin' mess to work there. And it's pretty clear they rushed the launch, so not surprised the Model 3 has issues.
Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: ChiCat on June 22, 2018, 08:12:43 AM
https://jalopnik.com/heres-the-wild-email-exchange-between-teslas-alleged-sa-1827017800

An overview on the current cluster at Tesla

Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on June 28, 2018, 10:34:58 AM
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/farting-unicorn-causes-kerfuffle-between-elon-musk-and-artist-2018-06-27 (https://www.marketwatch.com/story/farting-unicorn-causes-kerfuffle-between-elon-musk-and-artist-2018-06-27)

I like how Musk does stuff like this that surely must offend his customer base. He gives no effs.
Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: steve dave on June 28, 2018, 10:47:10 AM
NERD FIGHT!
Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: steve dave on July 15, 2018, 11:36:59 AM
welp


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Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: sys on July 15, 2018, 11:41:29 AM
i'm enjoying this recent moment of musk making himself look like an bad person and an idiot.  he flew too high for too long.
Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: chum1 on July 15, 2018, 11:44:59 AM
Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: michigancat on July 15, 2018, 12:12:55 PM
Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: pissclams on July 15, 2018, 02:16:13 PM
elon musk is the best of what man can be
Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: steve dave on July 15, 2018, 04:38:20 PM
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Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: wetwillie on July 15, 2018, 04:45:46 PM
He’s apparently also pledged to pay for anyone who doesn’t have clean water in flint to outfit their house with clean water equipment.  Some guys get a new wife and a fast car during their midlife crisis but not Elon.
Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: 8manpick on July 15, 2018, 06:05:49 PM
He’s apparently also pledged to pay for anyone who doesn’t have clean water in flint to outfit their house with clean water equipment.  Some guys get a new wife and a fast car during their midlife crisis but not Elon.
I mean, he’s dating Grimes and making Tesla S cars, so why not both?
Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: steve dave on July 15, 2018, 06:32:00 PM
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Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: Trim on July 15, 2018, 06:58:34 PM
I didn't follow the cave thing at all but had heard about the tesla guy being involved and was under the assumption he'd rescued people.
Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: steve dave on July 16, 2018, 06:57:21 AM
?s=21


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Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: cfbandyman on July 16, 2018, 10:37:41 PM
Got my Model 3 last Saturday :cool:
Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: Spracne on July 16, 2018, 10:39:19 PM
Got my Model 3 last Saturday :cool:

Thots?
Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: puniraptor on July 16, 2018, 11:51:50 PM
ill be damned
Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: cfbandyman on July 17, 2018, 07:40:49 AM
Got my Model 3 last Saturday :cool:

Thots?

It's so much fun to drive. The acceleration is incredible. The overall quality is pretty good, and the single screen/controls are so far pretty easy to pickup and understand. Also, having the screen to the side took like no time to get used to. The hardest adjustment so far driving wise is getting used to the regen braking, but that isn't that hard to figure out I'm just really used to coasting.

The walking up to the car and having it unlock automatically is cool, and walking away and having it unlock is also pretty cool. Fun to also to precool (or heat come winter time) the car remotely, as well as a bunch of other controls.

It seems like at every light if someone pulls up to me they want to try to race me/floor it. I'm only slightly exaggerating, people seem to want to see if their car can beat mine off the line. I know this because there will be a few times I am not even paying attention, light changes, and you hear this screech and the car next to me takes off.

Coming from an '06 G6, I am ecstatic just to have most of the connectivity things most cars have today (bluetooth, USB, etc) but that's not particular to the Model 3. Also, in my situation I didn't want to spend the money to fix the A/C and rather set it aside for the car. I can be weirdly cheap about something that isn't so cheap to get.
Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: Spracne on July 17, 2018, 12:14:15 PM
Yes, but what of the thots?

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Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on July 17, 2018, 12:49:22 PM
walking away and having it unlock is also pretty cool.

This doesn't seem like a good feature.
Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: cfbandyman on July 17, 2018, 03:22:30 PM
walking away and having it unlock is also pretty cool.

This doesn't seem like a good feature.

I meant lock, typo as usual
Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: Trim on July 18, 2018, 12:15:44 PM
https://electrek.co/2018/07/15/tesla-model-3-rollover-crash/
Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: mocat on July 18, 2018, 12:29:09 PM
walking away and having it unlock is also pretty cool.

This doesn't seem like a good feature.

I meant lock, typo as usual

https://electrek.co/2018/07/15/tesla-model-3-rollover-crash/

sounds like that lady walked away from the vehicle and it unlocked safety level: expert
Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: steve dave on July 18, 2018, 01:26:14 PM
I'd roll over crash in that stud car any day. It definitely performed better than my current rollover experiences ('79 blazer, early 90s grand prix, early 90s lumina z24).
Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: Spracne on July 18, 2018, 02:04:34 PM
I'd roll over crash in that stud car any day. It definitely performed better than my current rollover experiences ('79 blazer, early 90s grand prix, early 90s lumina z24).

Wait, you've been in three rollovers?
Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: steve dave on July 18, 2018, 02:20:54 PM
I'd roll over crash in that stud car any day. It definitely performed better than my current rollover experiences ('79 blazer, early 90s grand prix, early 90s lumina z24).

Wait, you've been in three rollovers?

well, the grand prix just rolled over onto it's top. so like a 180. the others were like super barrel rolls. but yes.
Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: Dlew12 on July 18, 2018, 02:35:10 PM
my word, SD...
Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: steve dave on July 18, 2018, 02:52:35 PM
my word, SD...

southwest kansas is a wild place friend
Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: steve dave on July 18, 2018, 02:54:30 PM
scene: southwest kansas. like out in the country on a dirt road part.
sd girlfiend: can I drive your blazer?
sd: sure, why not babe (tosses the keys)

(http://forgifs.com/gallery/d/239316-2/SUV-rollover-crash-test-dummies.gif)
Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: steve dave on July 18, 2018, 02:58:54 PM
scene: again in sw ks. a different dirt road
sd: you should probably slow down for this corner
sd bud: (doesn't)

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Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on July 18, 2018, 02:59:17 PM
I hope nobody's leg fell off in any of your crashes, steve dave.
Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: steve dave on July 18, 2018, 03:00:58 PM
scene: ks. don't remember if road was paved or not.

sd: (just driving like a dipshit)

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Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: DaBigTrain on July 18, 2018, 03:38:31 PM
:lol:
Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: Dlew12 on July 18, 2018, 03:43:06 PM
3 rollovers is remarkable, even for someone SD's age.
Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: steve dave on July 18, 2018, 03:49:56 PM
3 rollovers is remarkable, even for someone SD's age.

I’m in my 30s you son of a biscuit!


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Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: sys on July 18, 2018, 04:21:12 PM
that's a lot of times to roll over, steve dave.  and only one of those cars even likes to roll over.
Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: puniraptor on July 18, 2018, 07:01:24 PM
astounding

i havent even been in 3 car crashes of ANY magnitude
Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: libstradamus on July 18, 2018, 07:05:55 PM
(1) rollover here (02 explorer)
Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: steve dave on July 18, 2018, 07:38:36 PM
that's a lot of times to roll over, steve dave.  and only one of those cars even likes to roll over.

I think people underestimate the amount of 16 year old fuckheads who have nothing else to do in their entire lives than drive terribly on dirt roads In sw ks. Usually while doing other stupid stuff.


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Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: DaBigTrain on July 18, 2018, 08:44:24 PM
that's a lot of times to roll over, steve dave.  and only one of those cars even likes to roll over.

I think people underestimate the amount of 16 year old fuckheads who have nothing else to do in their entire lives than drive terribly on dirt roads In sw ks. Usually while doing other stupid stuff.


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Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: WillieWatanabe on July 18, 2018, 08:57:27 PM
I'd roll over crash in that stud car any day. It definitely performed better than my current rollover experiences ('79 blazer, early 90s grand prix, early 90s lumina z24).

holy crap, i thought I was the only one to drive one of those
Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: cfbandyman on July 19, 2018, 08:12:51 AM
Damn SD, that is impressive.
Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: mocat on July 19, 2018, 08:14:36 AM
(1) rollover here (02 explorer)

same (~92 toyota avalon)
Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on July 19, 2018, 08:31:03 AM
I have never been in a rollover.  :gocho:
Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on July 19, 2018, 08:35:46 AM
I've never had trouble keeping my vehicles on the road, either.
Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: OK_Cat on July 19, 2018, 12:36:50 PM
that's a lot of times to roll over, steve dave.  and only one of those cars even likes to roll over.

I think people underestimate the amount of 16 year old fuckheads who have nothing else to do in their entire lives than drive terribly on dirt roads In sw ks. Usually while doing other stupid stuff.


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Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: ChiCat on August 17, 2018, 09:35:10 AM
Pretty insane spiral for Musk.  In the past year I went from thinking he was a huge genius to a complete nutjob (who is also probably a genius)
Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: WillieWatanabe on August 17, 2018, 12:31:14 PM
Pretty insane spiral for Musk.  In the past year I went from thinking he was a huge genius to a complete nutjob (who is also probably a genius)

after reading this book this year, he definitely is both.

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/5112YFsXIJL._SX330_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg)
Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: mocat on August 17, 2018, 12:37:11 PM
Pretty insane spiral for Musk.  In the past year I went from thinking he was a huge genius to a complete nutjob (who is also probably a genius)

after reading this book this year, he definitely is both.

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/5112YFsXIJL._SX330_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg)

how do you know that reading that book is what made him go crazy?
Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: WillieWatanabe on August 17, 2018, 12:50:38 PM
:shakesfist:
Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: Chingon on August 28, 2018, 10:59:23 AM
Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: libstradamus on August 28, 2018, 11:26:30 AM
en inglés por favor
Title: Tesla
Post by: DaBigTrain on August 28, 2018, 12:43:01 PM
I thought you spoke tech?

Reading that whole thread sounds like they have a pretty shitty full stack implementation with poor failover systems.
Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: pissclams on August 28, 2018, 12:48:26 PM
Reading that whole thread sounds like they have a pretty shitty full stack implementation with poor failover systems.

yes.  they hire a lot of new grads.  which is fine if your qc is good but who really pays for good software qc now a days :lol: 
Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: DaBigTrain on August 28, 2018, 12:50:46 PM
Reading that whole thread sounds like they have a pretty shitty full stack implementation with poor failover systems.

yes.  they hire a lot of new grads.  which is fine if your qc is good but who really pays for good software qc now a days :lol:

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Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: pissclams on August 28, 2018, 12:56:42 PM
blizzard is the same way.  come on guys your game made over $1B, please gmafb with this crap
Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: mocat on September 07, 2018, 04:01:25 PM
what is happening
Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: mocat on September 07, 2018, 04:05:00 PM
"output got slower with [smartphones]. we used to have 10 fingers, now we just have thumbs"
Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: DaBigTrain on September 07, 2018, 08:16:17 PM
what is happening

Need a little more context here chodecat.  Are you asking about why the stock price plummeted because Elon smoked a joint on a live interview last night?  If that's what you are talking about then I think it's pretty dumb and it's legal in Cali.
Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: wetwillie on September 07, 2018, 08:21:27 PM
It’s not Alex jones entertaining but it’s still v good nonetheless
Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: mocat on September 07, 2018, 10:03:51 PM
what is happening

Need a little more context here chodecat.  Are you asking about why the stock price plummeted because Elon smoked a joint on a live interview last night?  If that's what you are talking about then I think it's pretty dumb and it's legal in Cali.
You are a great poster and I hope you keep it up!
Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: DaBigTrain on September 07, 2018, 10:05:03 PM
what is happening

Need a little more context here chodecat.  Are you asking about why the stock price plummeted because Elon smoked a joint on a live interview last night?  If that's what you are talking about then I think it's pretty dumb and it's legal in Cali.
You are a great poster and I hope you keep it up!

That means a lot coming from you, chodecat.
Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: slackcat on September 09, 2018, 06:52:16 AM
https://www.wsj.com/articles/what-scared-off-teslas-accountant-1536339688?mod=cx_picks&cx_navSource=cx_picks&cx_tag=contextual&cx_artPos=5#cxrecs_s (https://www.wsj.com/articles/what-scared-off-teslas-accountant-1536339688?mod=cx_picks&cx_navSource=cx_picks&cx_tag=contextual&cx_artPos=5#cxrecs_s)

Oooh boy
Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: slackcat on September 09, 2018, 06:56:35 AM
The man is in the throes of self-destruction.  :runaway:
Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: DaBigTrain on October 04, 2018, 03:20:11 PM
Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: IPA4Me on October 04, 2018, 03:39:41 PM
Are you going to win that car?

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Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: steve dave on November 10, 2018, 05:05:27 AM
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Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: steve dave on December 19, 2018, 04:06:46 PM
https://theconcourse.deadspin.com/visionary-brain-genius-elon-musk-has-invented-the-world-1831210269/amp?utm_medium=sharefromsite&utm_source=theconcourse_twitter&utm_campaign=top&__twitter_impression=true


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Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: hemmy on December 19, 2018, 04:15:10 PM
I can never keep track of whether or not the internet loves or hates elon musk
Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: wetwillie on December 19, 2018, 04:17:01 PM
Loves him and also at the same time understands he will very likely self destruct.
Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: michigancat on December 19, 2018, 06:01:11 PM
most of the internet I'm in touch with hate him
Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: steve dave on December 19, 2018, 06:24:07 PM
I love how interesting he is. The super villain from a comic book scenario is irl with him.


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Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: pissclams on December 20, 2018, 08:41:43 AM
yeah most of the internetters hate him which is super weird imo.  he's def a weird dude but it's not like he's coming to the falloon to pak w/ me but i would pak with him if he came to the falloon. 
Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: libstradamus on December 20, 2018, 08:44:42 AM
Would love to muskpak
Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: michigancat on December 20, 2018, 09:11:22 AM
yeah most of the internetters hate him which is super weird imo.  he's def a weird dude but it's not like he's coming to the falloon to pak w/ me but i would pak with him if he came to the falloon.
I think a lot of people hate him because he's a complete bad person. Super weird!
Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: DaBigTrain on December 20, 2018, 10:00:43 AM
Would love to muskpak

Yes absolutely
Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: pissclams on December 20, 2018, 10:13:29 AM
yeah most of the internetters hate him which is super weird imo.  he's def a weird dude but it's not like he's coming to the falloon to pak w/ me but i would pak with him if he came to the falloon.
I think a lot of people hate him because he's a complete bad person. Super weird!


what’s your problem, bro?
Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: pissclams on December 20, 2018, 10:16:49 AM
elon musk came into a record store i was at once and he was such a brazen dickhead to the clerk.  that was something like, I don’t even know, maybe 15 years ago?  imagine how bad he is today.  what an bad person.
Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: ChiCat on December 20, 2018, 10:18:55 AM
Calling someone trying to rescue a bunch of children a pedophile for no reason seems like an bad person move
Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: sonofdaxjones on December 20, 2018, 11:54:02 AM
Elon has great ideas, but a little short on the execution.

Some websites are having a field day with the current production process and facilities for the Tesla.   

At one point, and may still be, building cars under a huge non climate controlled canopy. 
Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: michigancat on December 20, 2018, 11:59:45 AM
At one point, and may still be, building cars under a huge non climate controlled canopy. 

this still definitely happens
Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: pissclams on December 20, 2018, 12:55:10 PM
Calling someone trying to rescue a bunch of children a pedophile for no reason seems like an bad person move

for no reason?  :lol:

can't talk about musk without the musk haterz pouring their delicious tearz into our thread, god some people love to be jealouz
sad
Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: ChiCat on December 20, 2018, 01:12:13 PM
Calling someone trying to rescue a bunch of children a pedophile for no reason seems like an bad person move

for no reason?  :lol:

can't talk about musk without the musk haterz pouring their delicious tearz into our thread, god some people love to be jealouz
sad

Was there a reason?
Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: pissclams on December 20, 2018, 01:52:57 PM
Calling someone trying to rescue a bunch of children a pedophile for no reason seems like an bad person move

for no reason?  :lol:

can't talk about musk without the musk haterz pouring their delicious tearz into our thread, god some people love to be jealouz
sad

Was there a reason?

why would you feel the need to ask?  because you're a musk haterz
Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: pissclams on December 20, 2018, 02:11:31 PM
hey look guys, it’s musk calling someone a pedo again!  don’t ever change, musk
Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: Kat Kid on January 07, 2019, 06:51:07 PM
Elon Musk is the worst

Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: 8manpick on January 07, 2019, 08:11:00 PM
The idea being that it will save 1/2 an hour vs CTA and untold more vs driving at rush hour I assume. Similar to the rapid transit downtown in London I assume?  I dunno, seems cool.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190108/899f0251ec22a10de0ec60b13e579bc5.jpg)
Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: Kat Kid on January 07, 2019, 08:41:50 PM
The idea being that it will save 1/2 an hour vs CTA and untold more vs driving at rush hour I assume. Similar to the rapid transit downtown in London I assume?  I dunno, seems cool.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190108/899f0251ec22a10de0ec60b13e579bc5.jpg)

you can't seriously believe this.
Title: Tesla
Post by: 8manpick on January 07, 2019, 08:50:57 PM
The idea being that it will save 1/2 an hour vs CTA and untold more vs driving at rush hour I assume. Similar to the rapid transit downtown in London I assume?  I dunno, seems cool.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190108/899f0251ec22a10de0ec60b13e579bc5.jpg)

you can't seriously believe this.
Express trains from Heathrow to downtown are 15 minutes and only stop at one place, the tube takes an hour. Tube / CTA is cramped as hell and the Express Train / TeslaTunnel is comfortable. Seems similar enough.

The difference is the car part of this, but it will be all Rideshares anyway.

Also it is definitely cool as an early proof of concept. No question about it. It might be clunky and not work, but we’ve made zero significant transit advances in this country for generations. I’m glad someone is trying something.
Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: Kat Kid on January 07, 2019, 08:56:57 PM
go look at what the london BRT involves, then think about how that compares to a city subsidizing an underground car express lane that may well be restricted to one car company's vehicles.
Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: 8manpick on January 07, 2019, 08:57:48 PM
go look at what the london BRT involves, then think about how that compares to a city subsidizing an underground car express lane that may well be restricted to one car company's vehicles.
I will not
Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: Kat Kid on January 07, 2019, 09:00:09 PM
you are definitely smart enough to know that would be a waste of time.
Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: DaBigTrain on February 18, 2019, 08:17:34 PM
If I could get it in 2017 I'd say like 90%. But I'm guessing it'll be late '18. I don't know if I wait that long. THOUGHTS?

I reserved a Tesla Model 3 the day they opened availability. What do you guys put the odds of me eventually taking delivery of it at?

So did you ever get one?

Also there was a white one parked at HyVee when I was out grocery shopping tonight  :surprised:
Title: Re: Tesla
Post by: DaBigTrain on April 24, 2019, 07:26:02 PM
:sdeek: