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Title: Fire John Currie
Post by: eastcat on March 21, 2016, 11:16:33 PM
There is no other choice.

He threw away a winner alum for a proven loser.
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: Steffy08 on March 21, 2016, 11:29:36 PM
I second the motion
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: Ptolemy on March 21, 2016, 11:44:51 PM
I third the motion.

What now?
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: OK_Cat on March 21, 2016, 11:55:13 PM
Three straight posts by browns. What a day.
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: Spracne on March 22, 2016, 12:04:39 AM
Three straight posts by browns. What a day.

These views and demeanor of these posters represent the lion's share of the Cat Kingdom and thus have convinced me that the K-State base has finally abandoned JC.

 Lama Sabachthani??
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: Ptolemy on March 22, 2016, 12:09:30 AM
Three straight posts by browns. What a day.

These views and demeanor of these posters represent the lion's share of the Cat Kingdom and thus have convinced me that the K-State base has finally abandoned JC.

 Lama Sabachthani??

I left the Currie bandwagon after the equestrian thing, and I've never even seen an equestrian event.  I don't even know what the type of ball they use is. He is that bad.
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: bones129 on March 22, 2016, 12:34:19 AM
Currie has worn me out. Fire him.
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: nicname on March 22, 2016, 12:37:51 AM
eff him. He is destroying everything.
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: wetwillie on March 22, 2016, 06:56:21 AM
Ask yourself a question, what would Jon Wefald do to an athletic director that failed to hire Brad underwood?  Now ask yourself what UPKS is going to do, and you have the answer.
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: Pett on March 22, 2016, 07:28:56 AM
Running off Frank was strike one
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: #LIFE on March 22, 2016, 07:58:12 AM
Can't wait for more of those emails after every season talking about how many good teams we have to play which makes getting to the tournament impossible  :emawkid:
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: EMAWforever on March 22, 2016, 08:08:15 AM
Its evident John Currie can get stuff built.  So, let's hire an AD for personnel only and leave Currie as facilities AD to build stuff.  Because Currie sucks with personnel decisions.
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: slobber on March 22, 2016, 08:12:12 AM
Its evident John Currie can get stuff built.  So, let's hire an AD for personnel only and leave Currie as facilities AD to build stuff.  Because Currie sucks with personnel decisions.
He will build a great dumpster. Dumpsters are really no problem. He will build this dumpster great than any other dumpster. He will get us to pay for it, but it is going to be great.
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: Trim on March 22, 2016, 08:15:07 AM
https://twitter.com/TrimGoEMAW/status/712262173079121920
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: EMAWforever on March 22, 2016, 08:16:18 AM
Its evident John Currie can get stuff built.  So, let's hire an AD for personnel only and leave Currie as facilities AD to build stuff.  Because Currie sucks with personnel decisions.
He will build a great dumpster. Dumpsters are really no problem. He will build this dumpster great than any other dumpster. He will get us to pay for it, but it is going to be great.
Great as in Frosted Flakes GGGGRRREEAAT?
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: Stupid Fitz on March 22, 2016, 08:36:35 AM
Wefald would have destroyed Currie. I mean, if you are the president of a university, you would think that at least part of the job description for being an AD is to somewhat care about the performance on the court and field. I mean, at least care a little bit. I guess as long as the six people there are being nice to each other and the team, they are cool with sucking.

Another thing. This has probably been brought up before, but is there anything more KState than hiring a guy from the SEC and have him end up being the only non dirty guy from the SEC ever?
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: nicname on March 22, 2016, 08:41:18 AM
All he had to do was give the people what they want. He has been unable to do so, and at growing rate, for some time now.

Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: WildcatNkilt on March 22, 2016, 08:44:13 AM
John Currie is not family. 
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: Ptolemy on March 22, 2016, 08:53:46 AM
DeCoursey on 810 just said, "I guess KState has to win next year."

WOW! I'm stunned he gets paid for that keen insight. Win...what are we supposed to do in the 4 other years?
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: michigancat on March 22, 2016, 09:05:46 AM
KSU announced to the world that basketball no longer needed to "win" when they hired oscar Weber. Welcome to 4 years ago.
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: pissclams on March 22, 2016, 09:08:55 AM
if oscar starts bringing in burger boys, i think we can turn around our bad fortune.
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: CHONGS on March 22, 2016, 09:18:00 AM
#BringBackBurgerBoys
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: CNS on March 22, 2016, 09:18:30 AM
No coach will work here until they are allowed to do what P5 coaches need to do to recruit and manage their players/team.  Currie is standing in the way of all that.  He knows it, and that is why he didn't make a move.  That is also why he won't make a move next year.  oscar will have to burn his own house down, and I actually do think that oscar is able to avoid doing that.
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: Cire on March 22, 2016, 09:25:00 AM
not in this league.  He will not be over 500 in the league again as our coach.
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: pissclams on March 22, 2016, 09:31:07 AM
he will be much better than .500 if he gets the right burger boys
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: pissclams on March 22, 2016, 09:31:44 AM
that comment in no way implies that there are bad burger boys
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: _33 on March 22, 2016, 09:48:29 AM
#InBurgerBoysWeTrust
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: sonofdaxjones on March 22, 2016, 09:53:08 AM
John Currie's ego, strange ways, cloistered inner circle, ultra micro management and personal agenda are wrecking K-State athletics.   It's time for him to move on.
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: chum1 on March 22, 2016, 10:02:37 AM
If we didn't need him for the hoops team, Weber could be his replacement.
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: CNS on March 22, 2016, 10:10:53 AM
oscar would be a great AD if we had a really strong coach.

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Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: wetwillie on March 22, 2016, 10:15:30 AM
Yep, oscar has all the interpersonal communication skills necessary to be AD
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: kso_FAN on March 22, 2016, 10:53:58 AM
http://www.foxsports.com/college-basketball/story/Kansas-State-Wildcats-oscar-Weber-Frank-Martin-John-Currie-new-hire-spells-big-trouble-040112
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: purplehaze on March 22, 2016, 11:02:36 AM
http://www.foxsports.com/college-basketball/story/Kansas-State-Wildcats-oscar-Weber-Frank-Martin-John-Currie-new-hire-spells-big-trouble-040112

do not click, virus
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: pissclams on March 22, 2016, 12:50:07 PM
http://www.foxsports.com/college-basketball/story/Kansas-State-Wildcats-oscar-Weber-Frank-Martin-John-Currie-new-hire-spells-big-trouble-040112

man what a hatchet job
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: Steffy08 on March 22, 2016, 12:51:42 PM
Its evident John Currie can get stuff built.  So, let's hire an AD for personnel only and leave Currie as facilities AD to build stuff.  Because Currie sucks with personnel decisions.

No, all Currie knows how to do is design slick pamphlets that ask people for money.  They main reason people responded to those pamphlets is because of the incredible success of our 2011/2012 football teams.  Of course, Currie deserves no credit for that success at all.

I knew all I needed to know about Currie when he and our tweeting Prez couldn't get us in a BCS bowl in 2011.  This was confirmed when they hired oscar Weber.  Both just dorks(Schultz)/dweebs(Currie) who have no business at a cool place like KSU.
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: CHONGS on March 22, 2016, 02:10:31 PM
Can I get a McPick 2 guard?
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: ArchE_Cat on March 22, 2016, 03:55:34 PM
No coach will work here until they are allowed to do what P5 coaches need to do to recruit and manage their players/team.

Bingo. A major reason Currie hired Weber is because Weber can't manage players (Foster, to some extent Angel). So Weber doesn't push back in this area at all. It's actually good personal risk management by Currie, just detrimental to K-State.

You can't have the ego Currie has a as leader and your organization be successful. If have to hire people who are smarter than you and better at you for what you hire them to do, then let them do it while giving them whatever resource they need to do it. Currie is great at fund raising, I'll give him that, but he is ignorant of the fact he has no knowledge of how to run a sports program.

Currie had all kinds of basketball coaching moves he could have made this off season: Underwood, Henson, Gottlieb, Jankovich, and the list goes on. All guys who could put together a decent staff and recruit. But, I doubt any of them would have said yes to working under Currie. It's also completely ridiculous that K-State administration would value anything that has anything to do with Keady.
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: Kat Kid on March 22, 2016, 03:59:35 PM
Jankovich's resume is a mixed bag admittedly, but I like him personally and would be thrilled to have him here given the current situation.  That said, there is no way he's coming.  He gets $800,000 as an assistant and is coach in waiting to take over SMU.  He wouldn't leave there for the money they will pay him and the program that is built there for the situation at K-State.

corrected
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: CHONGS on March 22, 2016, 04:00:23 PM
Jank is a worse hire than oscar. Super gross.
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: 8manpick on March 22, 2016, 04:01:09 PM
We should hire Gottlieb and then trade him and Wade for Brad. Everybody wins!
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: ArchE_Cat on March 22, 2016, 04:07:27 PM
I don't really want Jank either, but a good AD would have his people call Janks people. Currie didn't even pick up a phone this off season.
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: sys on March 22, 2016, 04:10:21 PM
He gets almost $2 million as an assistant.

wtf?
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: wetwillie on March 22, 2016, 04:10:42 PM
Jankovich's resume is a mixed bag admittedly, but I like him personally and would be thrilled to have him here given the current situation.  That said, there is no way he's coming.  He gets almost $2 million as an assistant and is coach in waiting to take over SMU.  He wouldn't leave there for the money they will pay him and the program that is built there for the situation at K-State.

This post was 100% serious,  I just want people to let that sink in. This is what our program has come to.
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: CNS on March 22, 2016, 04:11:15 PM
Currie doesn't do phones.  He does telegraphs to keady and hotel rooms with his friend, who charges huge fees to tell him to do what gene says.

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Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: Dual Ju on March 22, 2016, 04:19:37 PM
Any lawyers on here know if John Currie bound by HIPAA? Or is he free to divulge student athlete injury information to any booster he wants? Please PM me if the former.
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: sys on March 22, 2016, 04:20:54 PM
This post was 100% serious.

you can't prove that.
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: wetwillie on March 22, 2016, 04:23:45 PM
This post was 100% serious.

you can't prove that.

You can't disprove it
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: eastcat on March 22, 2016, 04:27:54 PM
Need to get Currie locked in a hotel room for longer, like howard hughes.
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: Kat Kid on March 22, 2016, 04:32:43 PM
He gets almost $2 million as an assistant.

wtf?

yeah, I mean $800K.  My bad.

http://www.mlive.com/wolverines/index.ssf/2014/07/details_salary_figures_emerge.html (http://www.mlive.com/wolverines/index.ssf/2014/07/details_salary_figures_emerge.html)
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: Kat Kid on March 22, 2016, 04:35:05 PM
I was being serious about liking Jank personally, thinking his resume is shaky and also thinking he would be an ok hire given the current circumstances.  It would be very Kroger-brand Underwood.
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: sys on March 22, 2016, 04:44:32 PM
there are no offbrand underwoods.  it was, and still is, underwood or keep weber.  we aren't giving this job to just anyone.
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: chum1 on March 22, 2016, 05:05:13 PM
Giving the job to Underwood is almost like giving the job to just anyone.
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: Trim on March 22, 2016, 05:05:26 PM
"i was told by a source close to the situation that brad's agent reached out and the call was not returned."

Your new sig! 
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: sys on March 22, 2016, 05:08:26 PM
i was sad to lose the kelly quote, but unfortunately, it was no longer relevant.
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: wetwillie on March 22, 2016, 05:10:42 PM
"i was told by a source close to the situation that brad's agent reached out and the call was not returned."

Your new sig! 


Who said this? I can't believe I missed it.


Also Jank is ten times worse than Weber, what has happened to KK?
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: sys on March 22, 2016, 05:13:13 PM
Who said this? I can't believe I missed it.

just a gpc poster.
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: Trim on March 22, 2016, 05:19:46 PM
Who said this? I can't believe I missed it.

just a gpc poster.

And ant-man.
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: Kat Kid on March 22, 2016, 05:24:30 PM
"i was told by a source close to the situation that brad's agent reached out and the call was not returned."

Your new sig! 


Who said this? I can't believe I missed it.


Also Jank is ten times worse than Weber, what has happened to KK?

I am vulnerable.  And Jank would probably let me come to practice.
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: sonofdaxjones on March 22, 2016, 06:02:17 PM
Do you think John Currie is going to hire a guy who has been a longtime assistant to both Bill Self and Larry Brown?

LOL, my heavens that's funny stuff.
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: wetwillie on March 22, 2016, 06:04:59 PM
heh
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: Kat Kid on March 22, 2016, 06:08:27 PM
Do you think John Currie is going to hire a guy who has been a longtime assistant to both Bill Self and Larry Brown?

LOL, my heavens that's funny stuff.

No, I don't.
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: kso_FAN on March 22, 2016, 06:16:04 PM
Yeah, I was going to at Jank has hung out with Larry Brown several years. Something good had to run off in that time span.
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: wetwillie on March 22, 2016, 06:20:31 PM
His head coaching record leaves much to be desired.
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: slobber on March 22, 2016, 06:21:58 PM
In BBK, who is the K? Keady?


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Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: slobber on March 22, 2016, 06:23:45 PM
I've lost track of who made the "speak with your feet" quote. Could somebody let me know who that was? I want to know who we are supposed to be kicking in the nuts until things change.


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Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: kso_FAN on March 22, 2016, 06:25:18 PM

In BBK, who is the K? Keady?


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My man Kelvin.
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: wetwillie on March 22, 2016, 06:29:57 PM
I've lost track of who made the "speak with your feet" quote. Could somebody let me know who that was? I want to know who we are supposed to be kicking in the nuts until things change.


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UPKS
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: slobber on March 22, 2016, 07:30:04 PM


In BBK, who is the K? Keady?


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My man Kelvin.
Well that would make a lot more sense! I'm in!


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Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: slobber on March 22, 2016, 07:30:25 PM

I've lost track of who made the "speak with your feet" quote. Could somebody let me know who that was? I want to know who we are supposed to be kicking in the nuts until things change.


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UPKS
Mental note made. Thank you!


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Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: mocat on March 22, 2016, 07:33:10 PM
Krause
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: MakeItRain on March 22, 2016, 09:29:31 PM
"i was told by a source close to the situation that brad's agent reached out and the call was not returned."

Your new sig! 


Who said this? I can't believe I missed it.


Also Jank is ten times worse than Weber, what has happened to KK?

I am vulnerable.  And Jank would probably let me come to practice.

Hold firm KK. I wouldn't want Jank, but he is a legit co   aching candidate. He was apparently going to be TCU's fallback.
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: kso_FAN on March 22, 2016, 09:33:29 PM
Jank, man.

1993–94   North Texas   14–15   9–9   T4th   
1994–95   North Texas   14–13   9–9   5th   
1995–96   North Texas   15–13   12–6   2nd   
1996–97   North Texas   10–16   5–11   5th (East)   
North Texas:   53–57 (.482)   35–35 (.500)   

2007–08   Illinois State   25–10   13–5   2nd   NIT Second Round
2008–09   Illinois State   24–10   11–7   3rd   NIT First Round
2009–10   Illinois State   22–11   11–7   3rd   NIT First Round
2010–11   Illinois State   12-19   4–14   T9th   
2011–12   Illinois State   21-14   9-9   T3rd   NIT Second Round
Illinois State:   104–64 (.619)   48–42 (.533)   
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: sonofdaxjones on March 22, 2016, 09:41:22 PM
Do you think John Currie is going to hire a guy who has been a longtime assistant to both Bill Self and Larry Brown?

LOL, my heavens that's funny stuff.

No, I don't.

That was more rhetorical then anything. 
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: MakeItRain on March 22, 2016, 09:41:52 PM
He didn't sit next to Larry Brown before taking those jobs either. And lets be real, how many good to decent power 5 coaches would put numbers up like that at those two jobs. We'd take a Scott Drew type right now, you sure he wouldn't do that at those garbage schools. Those were bad jobs when he got there and bad jobs since he's been gone.
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: kso_FAN on March 22, 2016, 09:46:00 PM
He didn't sit next to Larry Brown before taking those jobs either. And lets be real, how many good to decent power 5 coaches would put numbers up like that at those two jobs. We'd take a Scott Drew type right now, you sure he wouldn't do that at those garbage schools. Those were bad jobs when he got there and bad jobs since he's been gone.

The Larry Brown part makes him palpable. I agree they are not good jobs, but no NCAAs in 9 years is still troubling. I guess if anything it makes what Brad did at SFA that much more impressive.
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: Cire on March 22, 2016, 10:03:13 PM
Barf on jank.


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Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: catzacker on March 22, 2016, 10:06:17 PM
Are people trying to convince themselves Jank would be ok as our next head basketball coach?

Jesus rough ridin' Christ, guys. Just because we struck out with the hot blonde doesn't mean we have to go home with the brunette transvestite with AIDS because he says he has condoms and it's been a while since we got some.
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: wetwillie on March 22, 2016, 10:09:36 PM
Are people trying to convince themselves Jank would be ok as our next head basketball coach?

Jesus rough ridin' Christ, guys. Just because we struck out with the hot blonde doesn't mean we have to go home with the brunette transvestite with AIDS because he says he has condoms and it's been a while since we got some.



Apparently being on Larry Browns staff makes you change into a really good coach after you were previously not very good.
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: Trim on March 22, 2016, 10:14:20 PM
Are people trying to convince themselves Jank would be ok as our next head basketball coach?

Jesus rough ridin' Christ, guys. Just because we struck out with the hot blonde doesn't mean we have to go home with the brunette transvestite with AIDS because he says he has condoms and it's been a while since we got some.

Know that no matter how things bad get for kstatesports, there'll always be a corresponding catzacker post that almost makes it all worth it.
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: ksupamplemousse on March 22, 2016, 10:27:12 PM
Our fans have always had a weird thing for Jank. At least with Henson you're not sure if he sucks. I mean, Jank is oscar without any of the success. If he chose to accept shitty jobs, then he showed a great lack of judgement. Which is not an awesome quality in a coach. I don't think spending time with Larry Brown makes you a great coach, it just gives you an opportunity to pick up some things from a legend. Those things don't necessarily bridge the gap between bad coach and good coach.
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: Trim on March 22, 2016, 10:32:00 PM
Get a good administration in place and they'll find an adequate coach.
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: Panjandrum on March 22, 2016, 10:35:59 PM
Get a good administration in place and they'll find an adequate coach.

It all feels worthless until that happens. 

There's no point in even speculating what we should do because even the no brainer decisions seem like quantum physics to these guys.
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: MakeItRain on March 22, 2016, 10:37:18 PM
Are people trying to convince themselves Jank would be ok as our next head basketball coach?

Jesus rough ridin' Christ, guys. Just because we struck out with the hot blonde doesn't mean we have to go home with the brunette transvestite with AIDS because he says he has condoms and it's been a while since we got some.



Apparently being on Larry Browns staff makes you change into a really good coach after you were previously not very good.

You stupid asses need to learn to read better
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: MakeItRain on March 22, 2016, 11:04:46 PM
Are people trying to convince themselves Jank would be ok as our next head basketball coach?

Jesus rough ridin' Christ, guys. Just because we struck out with the hot blonde doesn't mean we have to go home with the brunette transvestite with AIDS because he says he has condoms and it's been a while since we got some.



Apparently being on Larry Browns staff makes you change into a really good coach after you were previously not very good.

You stupid asses need to learn to read better

I need to apologize to wetwillie. It's moronic and irrational to think you could learn more from Larry Brown after you've been coaching for 30 years than you would from basketball greats like Dana Altman, Bob Weltlich, and Boyd Grant when you're in your twenties. Again I'm deeply sorry.
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: bones129 on March 23, 2016, 12:06:48 AM
I believe Jank's contract makes him the HC when Brown leaves, which may very well be pretty soon.
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: Ptolemy on March 23, 2016, 12:19:16 AM
John Currie gets WAY too much credit for his financial prowess.

When Currie became our AD, KState athletics was the equivalent of a single parent with 7 kids, $7 large in debt due to an absentee spouse's gambling debts, living in a trailer in a park located top-dead-center in tornado alley.  Krause, Prince, and Wefald were, in that order, impregnator, tornado, and impregnatee.

Enter Texas and Oklahoma threatening to leave the conference.

BOOM! Cash aplenty for all now-10 Big 12 schools! 

Every school in the conference has been awash in cash since the break-up threat occurred.  Think about it...have any Big 12 AD's been fired?

I rest my case. Stop giving Currie credit he did not earn. Fire John Currie. 
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: MakeItRain on March 23, 2016, 12:19:46 AM
Yes he's the hciw. I have no idea why a reputable program like SMU would take the word of a hall of fame coach when rando people can just evaluate him based on him being .500 at North Texas twenty years ago. Games they incidentally never saw him coach.
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: bones129 on March 23, 2016, 12:28:38 AM
Just something to think about. And...if KSU had any interest in bringing Tim back, why haven't we heard about it?


http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaab-the-dagger/smu-makes-tim-jankovich-college-basketball-highest-paid-163313263.html
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: MakeItRain on March 23, 2016, 12:40:19 AM
Just something to think about. And...if KSU had any interest in bringing Tim back, why haven't we heard about it?


http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaab-the-dagger/smu-makes-tim-jankovich-college-basketball-highest-paid-163313263.html

No one mentioned K-State having interest in him. Good link though I liked this passage

Quote
On the one hand, he had an Illinois State team returning that was capable of challenging Creighton and Wichita State next season after making the Valley title game and the NIT second round last season. On the other hand, he had the promise of a hefty raise and an opportunity to one day coach in the Big East after learning under a Hall of Fame coach for a few years.

I'm sure people who's greatest exposure to him is reading his wiki page when they haven't thought of him in years have a much better grasp of his credentials though.
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: wetwillie on March 23, 2016, 07:28:23 AM
Are people trying to convince themselves Jank would be ok as our next head basketball coach?

Jesus rough ridin' Christ, guys. Just because we struck out with the hot blonde doesn't mean we have to go home with the brunette transvestite with AIDS because he says he has condoms and it's been a while since we got some.



Apparently being on Larry Browns staff makes you change into a really good coach after you were previously not very good.

You stupid asses need to learn to read better

I need to apologize to wetwillie. It's moronic and irrational to think you could learn more from Larry Brown after you've been coaching for 30 years than you would from basketball greats like Dana Altman, Bob Weltlich, and Boyd Grant when you're in your twenties. Again I'm deeply sorry.

I guess Eddie Sutton and Bill Self didn't rub off on him? 
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: MakeItRain on March 23, 2016, 11:28:07 AM
Are people trying to convince themselves Jank would be ok as our next head basketball coach?

Jesus rough ridin' Christ, guys. Just because we struck out with the hot blonde doesn't mean we have to go home with the brunette transvestite with AIDS because he says he has condoms and it's been a while since we got some.



Apparently being on Larry Browns staff makes you change into a really good coach after you were previously not very good.

You stupid asses need to learn to read better

I need to apologize to wetwillie. It's moronic and irrational to think you could learn more from Larry Brown after you've been coaching for 30 years than you would from basketball greats like Dana Altman, Bob Weltlich, and Boyd Grant when you're in your twenties. Again I'm deeply sorry.

I guess Eddie Sutton and Bill Self didn't rub off on him?

Eddie Sutton isn't nearly the coach that Self and Brown are. I'm guessing he probably learned quite a bit from Bill Self given that he was actually pretty decent at Illinois State. Will you admit that before bones posted that link you assumed he was fired from ISU?
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: kso_FAN on March 23, 2016, 11:49:38 AM
I agree that there is some merit in having a K-State connection. It was certainly a draw for me for Brad, I won't lie.

But remove the K-State connection from Jank and I guarantee most of this board would go full #BID if he was hired at K-State given his resume.
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: wetwillie on March 23, 2016, 12:03:42 PM
Are people trying to convince themselves Jank would be ok as our next head basketball coach?

Jesus rough ridin' Christ, guys. Just because we struck out with the hot blonde doesn't mean we have to go home with the brunette transvestite with AIDS because he says he has condoms and it's been a while since we got some.



Apparently being on Larry Browns staff makes you change into a really good coach after you were previously not very good.

You stupid asses need to learn to read better

I need to apologize to wetwillie. It's moronic and irrational to think you could learn more from Larry Brown after you've been coaching for 30 years than you would from basketball greats like Dana Altman, Bob Weltlich, and Boyd Grant when you're in your twenties. Again I'm deeply sorry.

I guess Eddie Sutton and Bill Self didn't rub off on him?

Eddie Sutton isn't nearly the coach that Self and Brown are. I'm guessing he probably learned quite a bit from Bill Self given that he was actually pretty decent at Illinois State. Will you admit that before bones posted that link you assumed he was fired from ISU?

Your comment about reading wikis stung me pretty good....lol.  I am probably undervaluing Browns ability to raise the level of coaching of his assistants. 
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: _33 on March 23, 2016, 12:30:06 PM
Guys, Jank divorced Jack Hartman's daughter.   :don'tcare:
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: ChiComCat on March 23, 2016, 12:32:42 PM
I don't want a guy that can't get the job at SMU without an apprenticeship
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: MakeItRain on March 23, 2016, 12:51:55 PM
Guys, no one here wants Jank
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: Cire on March 23, 2016, 02:06:58 PM
Jank looks dumb, probably is.


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Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: renocat on March 24, 2016, 05:06:31 PM
Cat family killer according to the Collegian.  Kiitty killer should resign.
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: Steffy08 on March 24, 2016, 10:23:57 PM
Refocus on the task at hand--firing Currie
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: bones129 on March 24, 2016, 11:11:05 PM
Guys, no one here wants Jank

 :thumbs:
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: sonofdaxjones on March 25, 2016, 07:45:51 AM
ADJC thought he'd be gone by now, and now he's in a pickle. 

He's got a trajectory crisis with his only major hire and he's got two more starting with football and baseball. 

To make matters worse for himself he's crapped all over the succession attempts of the HOF FB coach he's not on speaking terms with. 
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: slobber on March 25, 2016, 08:09:12 AM
Mittie tho!


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Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: Steffy08 on March 25, 2016, 09:04:35 AM
To make matters worse for himself he's crapped all over the succession attempts of the HOF FB coach he's not on speaking terms with.

I'd be interested in hearing more about this, even though it might be painful.
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: Panjandrum on March 25, 2016, 09:28:02 AM
ADJC thought he'd be gone by now, and now he's in a pickle. 

He's got a trajectory crisis with his only major hire and he's got two more starting with football and baseball. 

To make matters worse for himself he's crapped all over the succession attempts of the HOF FB coach he's not on speaking terms with.

There's a nice cautionary tale about karma here, I'm sure.
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on March 25, 2016, 10:12:45 AM
ADJC thought he'd be gone by now, and now he's in a pickle. 

He's got a trajectory crisis with his only major hire and he's got two more starting with football and baseball. 

To make matters worse for himself he's crapped all over the succession attempts of the HOF FB coach he's not on speaking terms with.
Would be interesting to learn more about this, if true.
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: pissclams on March 25, 2016, 11:00:44 AM
To make matters worse for himself he's crapped all over the succession attempts of the HOF FB coach he's not on speaking terms with. 

100% incorrect
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: sys on March 25, 2016, 11:39:55 AM
not on speaking terms may be an exaggeration, but snyder doesn't like him at all.
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: pissclams on March 25, 2016, 11:57:39 AM
i've not liked a lot of my bosses either
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: Pete on March 25, 2016, 12:07:35 PM

i've not liked a lot of my bosses either


I suspect part of the disagreement is over the idea of "boss."
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: pissclams on March 25, 2016, 12:10:31 PM
What disagreement? 
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: ednksu on March 25, 2016, 12:11:12 PM
this changes things
http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=37483.0
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: pissclams on March 25, 2016, 12:12:11 PM
this changes things
http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=37483.0

that's old news brah, dude couldn't handle twitter
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: Pete on March 25, 2016, 12:12:43 PM

What disagreement?

I have a hunch that Bill might disagree that Currie is his "boss," and that might lead to whatever it is (disagreements) that gets widely rumored to be their "rift" or whatever.

Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: pissclams on March 25, 2016, 12:16:16 PM

What disagreement?

I have a hunch that Bill might disagree that Currie is his "boss," and that might lead to whatever it is (disagreements) that gets widely rumored to be their "rift" or whatever.


ah yeah i'm sure there's some of that.  i mean, no one is a 76 year old's boss, in reality.  i'm sure ADJC understands that too but he has a job to do just like bill. 
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: Pete on March 25, 2016, 12:17:52 PM


What disagreement?

I have a hunch that Bill might disagree that Currie is his "boss," and that might lead to whatever it is (disagreements) that gets widely rumored to be their "rift" or whatever.


ah yeah i'm sure there's some of that.  i mean, no one is a 76 year old's boss, in reality.  i'm sure ADJC understands that too but he has a job to do just like bill.

FOR NOW!  :fatty:
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: Belvis Noland on March 25, 2016, 12:35:28 PM

What disagreement?

I have a hunch that Bill might disagree that Currie is his "boss," and that might lead to whatever it is (disagreements) that gets widely rumored to be their "rift" or whatever.


ah yeah i'm sure there's some of that.  i mean, no one is a 76 year old's boss, in reality.  i'm sure ADJC understands that too but he has a job to do just like bill.

might also be that Bill has been the face of the university for 25 years and his salary is triple JC's.  prob also doesn't hurt that Bill's relationships with the BOR and state legislature guarantee him almost unqualified immunity in his employment. 
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: pissclams on March 25, 2016, 12:36:55 PM

What disagreement?

I have a hunch that Bill might disagree that Currie is his "boss," and that might lead to whatever it is (disagreements) that gets widely rumored to be their "rift" or whatever.


ah yeah i'm sure there's some of that.  i mean, no one is a 76 year old's boss, in reality.  i'm sure ADJC understands that too but he has a job to do just like bill.

might also be that Bill has been the face of the university for 25 years and his salary is triple JC's.  prob also doesn't hurt that Bill's relationships with the BOR and state legislature guarantee him almost unqualified immunity in his employment. 

could be, might also be that currie is his boss.
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: sonofdaxjones on March 25, 2016, 12:50:23 PM
HCBS to Sean to Laird to Currie to Laird to Sean to HCBS.
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: Kat Kid on March 25, 2016, 12:52:29 PM
most ADs make less than the coaches they hire and fire.  LHC Bill Snyder has his name on the stadium and a statue, no need to make facile arguments about pay scale to know Bill's position at K-State is secure.
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: Trim on March 25, 2016, 02:27:27 PM
The Schulz thing made for enough content to fill all of John's latest letter.
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: Gooch on March 25, 2016, 03:04:37 PM
HCBS to Sean to Laird to Currie to Laird to Sean to HCBS.
Quite the game of Telephone
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: Shooter Jones on March 25, 2016, 03:13:02 PM
The Schulz thing made for enough content to fill all of John's latest letter.

Quote from: ADJC
From an athletics performance perspective, under the leadership of our tremendous group of head coaches, his tenure has seen arguably one of the greatest across-the-board 7-year periods in school history which has included Big 12 Conference championships in football, men’s basketball and baseball, eight individual NCAA titles in track and field, six straight bowl trips, five men’s basketball NCAA Tournament appearances, three in women’s basketball and four each in volleyball and baseball.
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: Ptolemy on March 25, 2016, 03:22:59 PM
But no mention of congratulating KState alum and former KSU assistant coach Brad Underwood on his recent NCAA hire. :surprised:
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: DOD Take 2 on March 25, 2016, 03:29:31 PM
The way that email was written it seemed as if Currie was trying to convince whoever the new Prez is that he should keep his job. Very high on his AD's accomplishments towards the end.
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: That_Guy on March 25, 2016, 04:29:52 PM

The way that email was written it seemed as if Currie was trying to convince whoever the new Prez is that he should keep his job. Very high on his AD's accomplishments towards the end.

He's hosed, and I can't wait!


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Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: MakeItRain on March 25, 2016, 05:41:35 PM

The way that email was written it seemed as if Currie was trying to convince whoever the new Prez is that he should keep his job. Very high on his AD's accomplishments towards the end.

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I'm guessing he's probably looking for a new job, either way he won't be getting fired by anyone. We can and should be annoyed with him but he runs a clean department that makes money.
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: wetwillie on March 25, 2016, 05:46:43 PM
#BringKirbyHome
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: Trim on March 25, 2016, 05:49:44 PM
Bob Krause, with steve dave and I taking an arm each over our shoulders to prop him up and operate him.
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: Skipper44 on March 25, 2016, 08:34:17 PM
Bob Krause, with steve dave and I taking an arm each over our shoulders to prop him up and operate him.
I am getting my shovel
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: TheHamburglar on March 25, 2016, 10:05:51 PM
Garth
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: ksupamplemousse on March 26, 2016, 06:05:18 PM
Gottlieb
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: 'taterblast on March 28, 2016, 04:31:50 PM
https://t.co/OK03UbXLNa (https://t.co/OK03UbXLNa)
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: ksupamplemousse on March 28, 2016, 04:36:59 PM
https://t.co/OK03UbXLNa (https://t.co/OK03UbXLNa)

I hate him so much.
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: CNS on March 28, 2016, 04:38:16 PM
https://t.co/OK03UbXLNa (https://t.co/OK03UbXLNa)

I hate him so much.

Yep 
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 28, 2016, 04:39:12 PM
I just read that. He's never going to fire him. No matter what.
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on March 28, 2016, 04:39:51 PM
Maybe he's just trying to convince SLU to hire him so we don't have to pay the buyout.
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: wetwillie on March 28, 2016, 04:45:11 PM
Kirk did a lot of nice things and I wish him well in the future, Currie has torched any goodwill he had from his facilities upgrades and fundraising.  I would actively root for him to fail in the future.
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: CHONGS on March 28, 2016, 04:45:19 PM
https://t.co/OK03UbXLNa (https://t.co/OK03UbXLNa)

Quote
"There are a lot of examples where coaches in their fifth, sixth and seventh years really show progress," Currie said.

Only fair to evaluate him after his seventh year stretch really.
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: 'taterblast on March 28, 2016, 04:45:34 PM
Quote
“I believe oscar Weber is the right coach for our program,” Currie said Monday in an interview with The Eagle.

ok, i don't.


Quote
“Clearly, he has the right values and he has been embedded in the community with his support of different things – Coaches vs. Cancer, the United Way, you name it,” Currie said.

WHO THE eff CARES

Quote
“But ultimately, it’s about the players he has brought into our program. Look at D.J. Johnson, Westicles and Claws, those are K-State guys. And they are all K-State guys who have a chance to have great seasons next year. That is a reflection of their coach.”

WHAT THE eff DOES THAT EVEN MEAN

Quote
“If we look at where we were 12 months ago and where we are now, there is a night-and-day difference. We know now today who our leadership is: seniors that have battled through adversity and young players that are, frankly, playing the best basketball of their careers.”

Okay? And won 5 conference games.

Quote
“I believe at this time next year I am going to feel really good about the progress we have made,” Currie said. “Just as good, if not better, than the progress we made from last year to now.”

I disagree.

Quote
“There is no pressure I could put on oscar Weber, LHC Bill Snyder (football), Suzie Fritz (volleyball) or Brad Hill (baseball) that they don’t already put on themselves,” Currie said. “Seriously, like I’m going to say, ‘Coach Snyder, I am really sorry about the last game, but you better win the next one.’ Come on. It’s not like they aren’t already saying that themselves. For our coaches, every season is a must-win.”

Okay, but, you CAN fire them after getting worse every year for four years.

Quote
“I was really proud of Coach Weber making some strong decisions last year,” Currie said. “But I am more impressed with the fact our freshmen this year were impressive players, good guys. They had a lot of success. Their individual stats are better than the current four-year stars in our league had as freshmen.

We won 5 conference games.

Quote
“We fought really hard this year. Obviously, we lost more games than we wanted to lose, but we had very consistent effort as a team that I really liked. I don’t think there is anybody that hasn’t seen progress that wishes to see progress. He has done a really good job of managing that bump in the road and emerging on the other side.”

ME. I want to see progress and haven't seen progress.

Quote
“There are a lot of examples where coaches in their fifth, sixth and seventh years really show progress,” Currie said.

:lol:

Quote
“I totally get that fans don’t like losing. I don’t like losing, either,” Currie said. “But people like our team. That is what I hear. Out in the social media world, I know there is going to be someone who doesn’t like something I do or doesn’t like a decision I make or doesn’t like oscar Weber. But we had good crowds at Bramlage Coliseum even though we lost some games. We had a lot of students there, too.”

“We don’t want to get in the business of excuses, but there is a fine line between excuses and analysis,” Currie said. “If you look at football and basketball this year, we had significant injuries at quarterback and point guard. Those things are factors. We don’t like them. We want to build our programs to overcome those things. But I think it is significant that this basketball team, just like our football team, got their backs to the wall and continued to fight and play well. You saw us battle in some games where we were over matched. We also won some games that, when you have lost your team, you don’t win. I think that was impressive.”

The Kamau injury is the biggest fake scape goat i've ever seen. It's not like we were on some path toward the NCAA tourney when Kamau was playing. Hell our only good win vs OU came when he was hurt. God damnit.

Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: Pett on March 28, 2016, 04:46:21 PM
Quote
“I believe at this time next year I am going to feel really good about the progress we have made,” Currie said. “Just as good, if not better, than the progress we made from last year to now.”

The "progress" that Currie speaks of is fifteen wins to seventeen wins...
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: CHONGS on March 28, 2016, 04:48:52 PM
Quote
“I believe at this time next year I am going to feel really good about the progress we have made,” Currie said. “Just as good, if not better, than the progress we made from last year to now.”

The "progress" that Currie speaks of is fifteen wins to seventeen wins...
That's unfair.  We were NOT on the NIT bubble last year and we were this year. Next year I expect us to be comfortably in the NIT, and maybe even hosting a game.
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: ksupamplemousse on March 28, 2016, 04:51:02 PM
Quote
“I believe at this time next year I am going to feel really good about the progress we have made,” Currie said. “Just as good, if not better, than the progress we made from last year to now.”

The "progress" that Currie speaks of is fifteen wins to seventeen wins...

Yeah, and we scheduled that progress. We won three fewer conference games. An argument can be made that we didn't actually make any progress at all.
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: CNS on March 28, 2016, 04:55:36 PM
Yep, but do it again next year and we are still showing progress, I guess. 
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: Pett on March 28, 2016, 04:56:52 PM
Quote
"We had good crowds at Bramlage Coliseum even though we lost some games. We had a lot of students there, too.”

In which fantasy world does Currie live in?

And of course, the Stokes injury excuse... :jerk:
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: DQ12 on March 28, 2016, 04:57:32 PM
ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.

really don't like currie.
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: sys on March 28, 2016, 04:58:08 PM
Quote
“people like our team. that is what I hear.”

i blame the "i hate weber but like the players" crowd more than i blame currie.
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: CNS on March 28, 2016, 04:58:59 PM
Quote
“people like our team. that is what I hear.”

i blame the "i hate weber but like the players" crowd more than i blame currie.

Wildcat Salute's fault.
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: sonofdaxjones on March 28, 2016, 05:00:34 PM
It is now more clear then ever that John Currie must be removed as AD from K-State.

What an idiotic statement.   Of course no AD walks in a tells a coach that they have to win the next game or else.   That's just pure comedy and absolutely sophomoric, who the hell does he think he's talking to? 

When Currie fired Deb Patterson he laid the precedent of trajectory, that precedent whether he'll admit it or not was foundation-ally based in wins and losses.   Really?  Deb Patterson didn't recruit some great gals?   Deb Patterson wasn't a pillar in the community involved in many worthwhile causes?   So now we pay basketball coaches $2 million a year to be great guys?   Now we base a team sports success on the back of individual statistics and so called individual improvement?   

What a total and absolute crock of bullshit.

Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: CNS on March 28, 2016, 05:02:49 PM
He knows exactly who he is talking too.  A majority of our fans who are simpletons that use "family" in most of their conversations surrounding sports now. 
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: sonofdaxjones on March 28, 2016, 05:03:45 PM
He knows exactly who he is talking too.  A majority of our fans who are simpletons that use "family" in most of their conversations surrounding sports now.

Yeah, I know. 
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: pissclams on March 28, 2016, 05:06:42 PM
do you all need to be reminded that not all wins are labeled with a w?  progress is progress, you can't deny that.
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: michigancat on March 28, 2016, 05:10:23 PM
he's finally digging out from that hole his loser predecessor left him in 12 months ago. Viva la oscar!
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: Shooter Jones on March 28, 2016, 05:11:12 PM
I don't feel very good...
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: michigancat on March 28, 2016, 05:11:28 PM
there is a fine line between excuses and analysis
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: 'taterblast on March 28, 2016, 05:11:41 PM
Quote
“people like our team. that is what I hear.”

i blame the "i hate weber but like the players" crowd more than i blame currie.

Wildcat Salute's fault.

awwwwwwh yeah

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Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: Tobias on March 28, 2016, 05:12:45 PM
bob!
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: pissclams on March 28, 2016, 05:14:04 PM
hot seat, bob strawn's ass
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: Trim on March 28, 2016, 05:37:54 PM
AW YEAH
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: TheHamburglar on March 28, 2016, 05:50:24 PM
Old people having, what they believe are, serious conversations on Facebook is one of the funniest things in the world.
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: The Big Train on March 28, 2016, 06:02:47 PM
What a rough ridin' loser.  I mean Jesus rough ridin' Christ I want to punch his face so much.  He has absolutely no rough ridin' connection to our fanbase.  I read that article right before I left work and it made me so rough ridin' mad.  He needs fired now
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: 0.42 on March 28, 2016, 06:40:00 PM
I wonder if the big donors will put up with this. I mean they probably will. But a lot of what he said was basically a more polished carbon copy of what Texas State's AD said to justify keeping Dennis Franchione indefinitely (before he quit anyway). So basically, Currie's now taking a losery Sun Belt mindset to his public statements regarding the 2nd most important sport in K-State athletics. At what point do big donors see this guy is full of crap, that this SLTH-y mindset has no place in the Big 12 and force him to take action (or GTFO)?
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: CNS on March 28, 2016, 06:45:42 PM
The big donors are all guns up in Stillwell, hanging with their best bud Brad right now.

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Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: The Big Train on March 28, 2016, 07:14:30 PM
you sly dogs you!  :D

firejohncurrie.com
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: BostonPancake on March 28, 2016, 07:17:11 PM
Sigh.  I really hope this was just AD speak.  I don't expect him to come out and say it's NCAA or bust for oscar next year.  Pretty sure he's being sincere, tho.

 :frown:   :facepalm:
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: The Big Train on March 28, 2016, 07:17:59 PM
it expires on thursday, better buy it for another year!
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: The Big Train on March 28, 2016, 07:22:42 PM
non-private registration  :sdeek:
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: kso_FAN on March 28, 2016, 07:27:25 PM
Nothing in there surprised me one bit. He tied himself to the oscar hire when he didn't even consider Brad.
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: sys on March 28, 2016, 07:34:41 PM
Nothing in there surprised me one bit. He tied himself to the oscar hire when he didn't even consider Brad.

firing weber now, after failing to secure underwood, would be grounds for firing currie. 
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: Kat Kid on March 28, 2016, 07:35:38 PM
Quote
Look at D.J. Johnson, Westicles and Claws, those are K-State guys.

This is infuriating.
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: sys on March 28, 2016, 07:38:14 PM
Quote
Look at D.J. Johnson, Westicles and Claws, those are K-State guys.

This is infuriating.

he's right.  kstaters love those players.
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: Tobias on March 28, 2016, 07:41:53 PM
We Are Kenn State
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: CNS on March 28, 2016, 07:50:37 PM
Yep, Kenn State University.  Bowl Cut U.

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Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: pissclams on March 28, 2016, 08:11:03 PM
i wonder if we're taking the wrong approach, maybe "fire john currie" isn't the right tact.
thinking back to weiser, we couldn't rid ourselves of the clown either.  it wasn't until his dream job opened up that he left.

i think we should consider promoting john currie, not sure how but we need to promote the crap out of him into a basement office red stapler type job.
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: PowercatPat on March 28, 2016, 08:59:03 PM
That is the most infuriating thing I've read since his letter to the fans last year trying to justify the program's attrition.
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: CatMission on March 28, 2016, 09:07:41 PM

i wonder if we're taking the wrong approach, maybe "fire john currie" isn't the right tact.
thinking back to weiser, we couldn't rid ourselves of the clown either.  it wasn't until his dream job opened up that he left.

i think we should consider promoting john currie, not sure how but we need to promote the crap out of him into a basement office red stapler type job.
I think this is the right approach.  You know he dreams of one of those prestigious ACC jobs so he and Mary Lou Sue Hoo can back to their roots. If UNC is found guilty of any of these academic violations, they will be forced to clean house and bring in a squeaky clean guy. And no one is more squeaky clean than John.   With a recommendation from the chair of the NCAA President's Council, it's a done deal.

We need to focus our energy on getting whoever is the AD at UNC fired.


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Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: Pete on March 28, 2016, 09:12:13 PM
That is the most infuriating thing I've read since his letter to the fans last year trying to justify the program's attrition.

I am running barely more than EMAW fumes at this point.  It's bad, man.  I am just about ready to completely move on with my life in healthy ways that have zero to do with K-State in any way.  I mean, I can see it coming....it won't take too much more to just shove me through that door.  The funny thing is, it might turn out to be a wonderful thing, to just put all this nonsense behind me and focus on more valuable parts of my life....I just can't completely let go of it yet. It's strange.  go cats.
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: DOD Take 2 on March 28, 2016, 09:17:02 PM
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“I believe at this time next year I am going to feel really good about the progress we have made,” Currie said. “Just as good, if not better, than the progress we made from last year to now.”

The "progress" that Currie speaks of is fifteen wins to seventeen wins...

Guys we could get up to 19 wins next year with the right scheduling!
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: DOD Take 2 on March 28, 2016, 09:23:18 PM

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I was really proud of Coach Weber making some strong decisions last year,” Currie said. “But I am more impressed with the fact our freshmen this year were impressive players, good guys. They had a lot of success. Their individual stats are better than the current four-year stars in our league had as freshmen.

We won 5 conference games



Love that he skips over the fact that oscar built that mess
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: KST8FAN on March 28, 2016, 09:36:55 PM
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Of the 22 coaches hired by power-conference teams since 2012, he is the only one to win or share a regular-season conference title.

Bill Self did not win the regular season conference title his first year at KU.  Then he won or shared 12 straight.


Tom
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: The Big Train on March 28, 2016, 09:40:13 PM
tom dropping chruth bombs
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: Panjandrum on March 28, 2016, 09:47:42 PM
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Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: michigancat on March 28, 2016, 09:48:56 PM



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I was really proud of Coach Weber making some strong decisions last year,” Currie said. “But I am more impressed with the fact our freshmen this year were impressive players, good guys. They had a lot of success. Their individual stats are better than the current four-year stars in our league had as freshmen.

We won 5 conference games



Love that he skips over the fact that oscar built that mess

It shouldn't have even been a mess. He couldn't manage a talented player he lucked into signing.
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: _33 on March 28, 2016, 10:50:31 PM
The Octagon of Pretty Good Crowds Even Though We Lost Some Games
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: MadCat on March 28, 2016, 11:02:31 PM
"He's the coach this program deserves, just not the one it needs right now."
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: Trim on March 28, 2016, 11:13:55 PM
I'm certain that when the interview concluded and he walked away that he smiled and thought to himself, "nailed it."
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: nicname on March 28, 2016, 11:44:50 PM
Apparently UNC's investigation is concluding here pretty soon. I too agree that the only man capable of reforming that Athletic Department is John Currie.

Awwww crap. Daggum new AD has people diggun' through the trash again.
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: nicname on March 28, 2016, 11:47:41 PM
I'm certain that when the interview concluded and he walked away that he smiled and thought to himself, "nailed it."
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Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: 0.42 on March 28, 2016, 11:53:28 PM
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Look at D.J. Johnson, Westicles and Claws, those are K-State guys.

This is infuriating.

I cannot interpret this as anything other than dog whistle language aimed at that certain part of our fanbase. He knows exactly what he's doing.
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
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Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: bones129 on March 29, 2016, 12:09:58 AM
bob!

Bob always makes me laugh.  :ROFL: :lol:
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: pissclams on March 29, 2016, 12:16:07 AM
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Look at D.J. Johnson, Westicles and Claws, those are K-State guys.

This is infuriating.

I cannot interpret this as anything other than dog whistle language aimed at that certain part of our fanbase. He knows exactly what he's doing.
with the precision of a surgeon, he works his scalpel!
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: Ptolemy on March 29, 2016, 12:23:05 AM
A University President with testicles should fire Currie on the basis of that interview alone.

No sitting AD tries to explain his team's lack of results with "Coaches vs. Cancer."

I no longer want him fired. I want him re-assigned to a woman's college in Zimbabwe. I want his house and office burned to the ground and the ashes scattered to the Flint Plains wind. John Currie's molecules should cast no shadow on anywhere in Manhattan.
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: Trim on March 29, 2016, 12:32:44 AM
A University President with testicles should fire Currie on the basis of that interview alone.

No sitting AD tries to explain his team's lack of results with "Coaches vs. Cancer."

:dubious:
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: Tobias on March 29, 2016, 12:34:09 AM
you're probably ranked above africans and women, i guess :dunno:
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: Trim on March 29, 2016, 01:36:07 AM
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Title: Fire John Currie
Post by: sonofdaxjones on March 29, 2016, 08:12:46 AM
UNC hired a new AD after the scandal broke.  I understand Currie went after it hard.  Some in here have more insight.
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: wetwillie on March 29, 2016, 08:21:52 AM
By the time EMAW is done with him, he will be lucky to take a job in the MVC
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: ChiComCat on March 29, 2016, 08:37:38 AM
I enjoyed the part where our Freshman played the best basketball of their 1 year careers.  The better stats based on much higher usage is also a fun stat.

I'm convinced the only way to push John to fire oscar is to start talking about a Title IX lawsuit about discrimination.
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: kso_FAN on March 29, 2016, 08:53:57 AM
Honestly, none of what Currie says here makes me furious. My time of being upset was gone soon after it was clear that we didn't even consider Underwood. I said at the time that Currie was sticking with and tying himself to the coach he hired, and if he is intent on keeping oscar another year, it was absolutely the right thing to make some sort of statement of support. Plenty of ADs have given coaches a vote of confidence and then fired them the next year and I think Currie will do exactly that if next season looks like the last two. But he still has to sell the program for the future and to get people in the seats next year and he is doing exactly that. Like or not, while many K-Staters were on board with bringing Brad home, the intensity of the gE sentiment is small minority. If oscar fails next year he will be gone.
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: renocat on March 29, 2016, 08:59:00 AM
Honestly, none of what Currie says here makes me furious. My time of being upset was gone soon after it was clear that we didn't even consider Underwood. I said at the time that Currie was sticking with and tying himself to the coach he hired, and if he is intent on keeping oscar another year, it was absolutely the right thing to make some sort of statement of support. Plenty of ADs have given coaches a vote of confidence and then fired them the next year and I think Currie will do exactly that if next season looks like the last two. But he still has to sell the program for the future and to get people in the seats next year and he is doing exactly that. Like or not, while many K-Staters were on board with bringing Brad home, the intensity of the gE sentiment is small minority. If oscar fails next year he will be gone.
What is failure?  I think the success bar is set very low.
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: kso_FAN on March 29, 2016, 09:01:26 AM
Honestly, none of what Currie says here makes me furious. My time of being upset was gone soon after it was clear that we didn't even consider Underwood. I said at the time that Currie was sticking with and tying himself to the coach he hired, and if he is intent on keeping oscar another year, it was absolutely the right thing to make some sort of statement of support. Plenty of ADs have given coaches a vote of confidence and then fired them the next year and I think Currie will do exactly that if next season looks like the last two. But he still has to sell the program for the future and to get people in the seats next year and he is doing exactly that. Like or not, while many K-Staters were on board with bringing Brad home, the intensity of the gE sentiment is small minority. If oscar fails next year he will be gone.
What is failure?  I think the success bar is set very low.

Not making the tournament.

And yes, Currie has set the bar low, that wasn't my point.

Though ultimately if Currie hangs on to a failing oscar too long, his job will be in jeopardy. I think he's smart enough to know that.
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: 'taterblast on March 29, 2016, 09:14:25 AM
it's just all bullshit. he has to support "his coach," but it is all just such bullshit and annoying to read.
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: ChiComCat on March 29, 2016, 09:30:59 AM
I find his bullshit hilarious but, as FAN alluded to, it is expected.  All I wanted was for him to come out and say that the last two seasons were disappointing which he did.  Some sort of acknowledgement that those are not acceptable is a step in the right direction, imo.
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: Woogy on March 29, 2016, 09:33:46 AM
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What is failure?  I think the success bar is set very low.

Not making the tournament.

And yes, Currie has set the bar low, that wasn't my point.

Though ultimately if Currie hangs on to a failing oscar too long, his job will be in jeopardy. I think he's smart enough to know that.

Which tournament is the question. We should be wary of that bar including a high (home host) NIT bid...
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: #LIFE on March 29, 2016, 09:38:34 AM
oscar is fine if he is a couple games above .500 next year and an NIT bid. Like _FAN said, I was done after he didn't go Underwood. I knew it probably wasn't going to happen but Currie could have won my support back if he makes that move. I think Brad would have retired here and there is no indication that he would fail here. If he somehow did, I doubt many people would have been too upset with Currie for taking the gamble, besides Kenn of course.
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: ChiComCat on March 29, 2016, 09:38:53 AM
Oh, I think if oscar makes the NIT he is back for another year regardless of being a home team.  Not only that, but the "bowl cuts" do nothing but pick up steam in their support of him
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: pissclams on March 29, 2016, 09:40:57 AM
I find his bullshit hilarious but, as FAN alluded to, it is expected.  All I wanted was for him to come out and say that the last two seasons were disappointing which he did.  Some sort of acknowledgement that those are not acceptable is a step in the right direction, imo.

that's the thing.  his job isn't to build oscar a pillow fort and make sure the idiot is comfortable as can be.
if currie had a clue, he could try and act like he's not talking to a bunch of bumbling mongloids like bowl cut kenn and instead pretend he thinks that the people he works for (us), have a functioning brain cell.

"yes our program has some problems.  no, i'm not happy with the progress we've made.  things have to get better and i expect that they will"

instead he panders to the rough ridin' idiots in our fanbase which i'm confident he feels make up 98% of us. i'm not sure he's wrong.
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: michigancat on March 29, 2016, 09:41:03 AM
I find his bullshit hilarious but, as FAN alluded to, it is expected.  All I wanted was for him to come out and say that the last two seasons were disappointing which he did.  Some sort of acknowledgement that those are not acceptable is a step in the right direction, imo.

Except the last two seasons were acceptable, because he's still the coach.

And unlike FAN, I've been disappointed since he let Frank go and hired oscar. Like, of course he's going to support the coach who has met our expectations as a program over four years and has a strong young nucleus returning.
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: kso_FAN on March 29, 2016, 09:42:10 AM
I find his bullshit hilarious but, as FAN alluded to, it is expected.  All I wanted was for him to come out and say that the last two seasons were disappointing which he did.  Some sort of acknowledgement that those are not acceptable is a step in the right direction, imo.

The only really disappointing quote was this one:

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“I believe at this time next year I am going to feel really good about the progress we have made,” Currie said. “Just as good, if not better, than the progress we made from last year to now.”

Now, I think Currie really means the first step in "progress" was oscar turning over the roster, because obviously the progress from "last year to now" is hard to justify in wins and losses, especially in the league. And I think that "I am going to feel really good about the progress we have made" means showing up in wins and losses and making a trip to the NCAA. But at this point we also know that Currie supported oscar turning over his roster, even if they were players he recruited. He is admitting to giving oscar a 2nd chance and oscar (and maybe Currie) will sink or swim by that decision.

Of course most of my perception here is fueled by my optimism (which is much more than about anyone else here), but again, I think it is Currie's job to come out and say something and not to let the program and current coaches hang if he supports the staff in place.

Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: michigancat on March 29, 2016, 09:48:41 AM
the "those are K-State guys" line was really the only thing I found objectionable. And borderline offensive.

He could have omitted that we're in a better place than we were 12 months ago line because that was all oscar's fault, but meh.
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: Trim on March 29, 2016, 09:51:09 AM
He should've called Lebron James out by name.
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: Gooch on March 29, 2016, 09:51:40 AM
The Octagon of Pretty Good Crowds Even Though We Lost Some Games
Way too cluttered for a tshirt
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: michigancat on March 29, 2016, 09:56:06 AM
the "those are K-State guys" line was really the only thing I found objectionable. And borderline offensive.

He could have omitted that we're in a better place than we were 12 months ago line because that was all oscar's fault, but meh.

Aren't they intertwined? These guys are KSU cats those other guys weren't it was a hard decision but one oscar had to make

yeah I suppose so. The second line trashes former players far more subtly.
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: TheHamburglar on March 29, 2016, 10:01:38 AM
Two things
1.
Quote
“But ultimately, it’s about the players he has brought into our program. Look at D.J. Johnson, Westicles and Claws, those are K-State guys. And they are all K-State guys who have a chance to have great seasons next year. That is a reflection of their coach.”

This is just pandering to the 98% of us he thinks are idiots.  He says these players oscar brought in and are a reflection of him.  He's throwing the old players under the bus, but he thinks we're too stupid to remember oscar brought them in too.  How are his perceived  positives of these players a reflection of the coach that brought them in, but the players they ran off also not a reflection of the coach that brought them in?  He can easily back oscar without repeatedly saying illogical crap like this. 

2. He mentions Bill twice.  First he says he doesn't put pressure on Bill, but he lets everyone know he has the same power over Bill he has over Susie Fritz, he just chooses not to use it.  Second, he takes a Bruve excuse and applies it to the football team, an excuse Bill didn't make. 

No one is talking about it, but he gave Kellis two quotes about Bill.  One where he implies FB was a similar disaster to MBB, then makes an unwanted excuse, and one where he publicly flexs his power over Bill.
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: AbeFroman on March 29, 2016, 10:04:09 AM
"Kstate is #family" (unless you don't kiss oscar's ass, then we'll throw you under the bus a few times, toss your corpse on the first train out of town, and then subtly talk crap on you in interviews for the next couple years)
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: ChiComCat on March 29, 2016, 10:04:35 AM
I find his bullshit hilarious but, as FAN alluded to, it is expected.  All I wanted was for him to come out and say that the last two seasons were disappointing which he did.  Some sort of acknowledgement that those are not acceptable is a step in the right direction, imo.

Except the last two seasons were acceptable, because he's still the coach.

And unlike FAN, I've been disappointed since he let Frank go and hired oscar. Like, of course he's going to support the coach who has met our expectations as a program over four years and has a strong young nucleus returning.

I don't think you have to fire a coach to say the season was unacceptable.  I'm not saying we have a good coach, but if someone (Currie) actually thinks we do, firing the coach after 4 years that include 2 NCAA appearances and a conference championship seems premature.  If Currie is going to be responsible for hiring the next coach, I can see where that high of standard for a program of our level would give future coaches pause. 

The problem, obviously, was letting Frank go and only got worse with hiring oscar.  The issue of being seen as firing a coach prematurely could've been solved with Brad, but Currie let that ship sail.  At this point, I think continuing with oscar for another year is probably the best option for the program.  It shows we aren't a trigger happy AD to a future coach that may not have a NCAA ready roster and puts our young core in a position where they would transfer for 3 years to play 2.  Of course the only way keeping oscar for another year is the best option is if we actually hold him to a high standard.
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: michigancat on March 29, 2016, 10:13:51 AM
I find his bullshit hilarious but, as FAN alluded to, it is expected.  All I wanted was for him to come out and say that the last two seasons were disappointing which he did.  Some sort of acknowledgement that those are not acceptable is a step in the right direction, imo.

Except the last two seasons were acceptable, because he's still the coach.

And unlike FAN, I've been disappointed since he let Frank go and hired oscar. Like, of course he's going to support the coach who has met our expectations as a program over four years and has a strong young nucleus returning.

I don't think you have to fire a coach to say the season was unacceptable.  I'm not saying we have a good coach, but if someone (Currie) actually thinks we do, firing the coach after 4 years that include 2 NCAA appearances and a conference championship seems premature.  If Currie is going to be responsible for hiring the next coach, I can see where that high of standard for a program of our level would give future coaches pause. 

I think I'm just being an obnoxious pedant about what "unacceptable" means. If you don't fire him, you're accepting the results.  I'll stop now.  :buh-bye:


The problem, obviously, was letting Frank go and only got worse with hiring oscar.  The issue of being seen as firing a coach prematurely could've been solved with Brad, but Currie let that ship sail.  At this point, I think continuing with oscar for another year is probably the best option for the program.  It shows we aren't a trigger happy AD to a future coach that may not have a NCAA ready roster and puts our young core in a position where they would transfer for 3 years to play 2.  Of course the only way keeping oscar for another year is the best option is if we actually hold him to a high standard.

As someone mentioned (I think Pan), the best time to let him go is after 2017-18. Wade, Stokes, and Brown would be seniors for the next coach and presumably, the buyout would be low. A primary reason Huggins worked out so well was because he had Harris, Martin, and Wright as seniors and Stewart and Hoskins as juniors. We also saw what happened when Frank left oscar with a lot of talent and experience. I think a HUGE factor for coaches looking at changing jobs is the roster they're inheriting. It would be for me, at least.
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: Missouriscribe on March 29, 2016, 10:14:18 AM
Two things
1.
Quote
“But ultimately, it’s about the players he has brought into our program. Look at D.J. Johnson, Westicles and Claws, those are K-State guys. And they are all K-State guys who have a chance to have great seasons next year. That is a reflection of their coach.”

This is just pandering to the 98% of us he thinks are idiots.  He says these players oscar brought in and are a reflection of him.  He's throwing the old players under the bus, but he thinks we're too stupid to remember oscar brought them in too.  How are his proceed positives of these players a reflection of the coach that brought them in, but the players they ran off also not a reflection of the coach that brought them in?  He can easily back oscar without repeatedly saying illogical crap like this. 

2. He mentions Bill twice.  First he says he doesn't put pressure on Bill, but he lets everyone know he has the same power over Bill he has over Susie Fritz, he just chooses not to use it.  Second, he takes a Bruve excuse and applies it to the football team, an excuse Bill didn't make. 

No one is talking about it, but he gave Kellis two quotes about Bill.  One where he implies FB was a similar disaster to MBB, then makes an unwanted excuse, and one where he publicly flexs his power over Bill.

This. Currie seems more out of touch than I had ever realized. He seemed smarter than this. I'm genuinely surprised. At the minimum, he is pissing off football check writers that support Bill.
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: ChiComCat on March 29, 2016, 10:24:59 AM
The problem, obviously, was letting Frank go and only got worse with hiring oscar.  The issue of being seen as firing a coach prematurely could've been solved with Brad, but Currie let that ship sail.  At this point, I think continuing with oscar for another year is probably the best option for the program.  It shows we aren't a trigger happy AD to a future coach that may not have a NCAA ready roster and puts our young core in a position where they would transfer for 3 years to play 2.  Of course the only way keeping oscar for another year is the best option is if we actually hold him to a high standard.

As someone mentioned (I think Pan), the best time to let him go is after 2017-18. Wade, Stokes, and Brown would be seniors for the next coach and presumably, the buyout would be low. A primary reason Huggins worked out so well was because he had Harris, Martin, and Wright as seniors and Stewart and Hoskins as juniors. We also saw what happened when Frank left oscar with a lot of talent and experience. I think a HUGE factor for coaches looking at changing jobs is the roster they're inheriting. It would be for me, at least.

Although I like Stokes/Brown/Wade, I think at some point you have to let the chips fall where they may.  If oscar doesn't make the NCAAs this year, he has had more seasons of failure than success.  At that point I think we are setting the bar on what is acceptable.
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: kso_FAN on March 29, 2016, 10:30:18 AM
I don't think you have to fire a coach to say the season was unacceptable.  I'm not saying we have a good coach, but if someone (Currie) actually thinks we do, firing the coach after 4 years that include 2 NCAA appearances and a conference championship seems premature.  If Currie is going to be responsible for hiring the next coach, I can see where that high of standard for a program of our level would give future coaches pause. 

The problem, obviously, was letting Frank go and only got worse with hiring oscar.  The issue of being seen as firing a coach prematurely could've been solved with Brad, but Currie let that ship sail.  At this point, I think continuing with oscar for another year is probably the best option for the program.  It shows we aren't a trigger happy AD to a future coach that may not have a NCAA ready roster and puts our young core in a position where they would transfer for 3 years to play 2.  Of course the only way keeping oscar for another year is the best option is if we actually hold him to a high standard.

I agree with all of this.

Rusty's explanation about "unacceptable" was what I thought he was doing.

The interpretation of the Bill comments is interesting. I don't think Currie was being stupid or intentional there, but it does show that no matter how general you make your comments, you will eventually reveal something about what you really think. I think that's all Currie did there. I think there is an implication with both that a) I am allowing for analysis/excuses right now but b) eventually college sports is about winning. Clearly, Currie is putting some value on winning "the right way", but also that eventually if the winning doesn't happen he will be forced to find another "right way" winning option.
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: sys on March 29, 2016, 11:15:29 AM
i don't think any of the returning players or incoming freshmen are good enough that they are relevant to if or when to make a coaching change.
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: BrokenSky1113 on March 29, 2016, 12:16:20 PM
That article made me so mad that I punched a wall while still holding a coffee mug. Now my had is all cut up.

Half of that article is jingling keys for the tucks and the other half is lies.
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: michigancat on March 29, 2016, 12:21:30 PM
i don't think any of the returning players or incoming freshmen are good enough that they are relevant to if or when to make a coaching change.

They aren't now or probably even next year but there's a good chance they would be if they are all around as seniors.
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: sys on March 29, 2016, 12:24:17 PM
i don't think any of the returning players or incoming freshmen are good enough that they are relevant to if or when to make a coaching change.

They aren't now or probably even next year but there's a good chance they would be if they are all around as seniors.


that's ridiculous.  this is panj?  good lord, panj.
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: kso_FAN on March 29, 2016, 12:28:34 PM
Sometimes players develop more than we initially assume. Sometimes 3 star recruits are better than we ever anticipated. Of course much of the time they don't.
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: ChiComCat on March 29, 2016, 12:43:44 PM
My concern wasn't keeping oscar around to retain the talent.  My concern was retaining the talent for the next coach.  There is no one player that would we couldn't afford to lose, but keeping them together could be a factor in attracting a better coach, as well as contributing to the short term success of the program.
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: Skipper44 on March 29, 2016, 01:26:09 PM
the last thing we want is another Dallas hotel room coaching search with the program at it's lowest point in over a decade and a possibly lame duck AD.  We need to let UP Bosco bring in his own stud AD and then get after this thing a year from now.  Best case is oscar rides next years NIT bid momentum into a mid major job in a warm place and saves us the buyout. 

Currie probably needs to start applying to UNC's with hyphens
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: wetwillie on March 29, 2016, 01:40:58 PM
I would be ok with firing Currie today and letting Laird be the interim AD after Bosco fires oscar and hires Gottlieb. 
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: DOD Take 2 on March 29, 2016, 04:09:06 PM
Currie's quotes told us all he really cares about: People coming to the games and buying tickets and having a couple blue-collar/Kansas kids on the team that Tucks can be proud of. That seems to be an acceptable level of success for him.
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: Cartierfor3 on March 29, 2016, 05:05:20 PM
Do you think John would say I'm a K-State guy?  :frown:
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: Panjandrum on March 29, 2016, 05:14:14 PM
i don't think any of the returning players or incoming freshmen are good enough that they are relevant to if or when to make a coaching change.

They aren't now or probably even next year but there's a good chance they would be if they are all around as seniors.


that's ridiculous.  this is panj?  good lord, panj.

I think my overall point was twofold:

1) Money
2) Lowered risk of roster turnover

If you have the nucleus of Stokes/Brown/Wade that have played 90+ games, the odds of them leaving are low if you make a change their senior year.  I think that does probably make the situation more appealing, especially if you have a good wing in Sneed to build around and feature.  An experienced, stable roster, even if it's C+/B- talent, is going to be more appealing than a complete gut job.

I'm not saying much about their overall ability/ceiling.  I think their experience + physical maturity will make them somewhat better, and having a decent sized class, but not too big, will allow the coach to start bringing in "their guys" without having to start with 7 or 8 new guys.
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: kso_FAN on March 29, 2016, 05:18:01 PM
i don't think any of the returning players or incoming freshmen are good enough that they are relevant to if or when to make a coaching change.

They aren't now or probably even next year but there's a good chance they would be if they are all around as seniors.


that's ridiculous.  this is panj?  good lord, panj.

I think my overall point was twofold:

1) Money
2) Lowered risk of roster turnover

If you have the nucleus of Stokes/Brown/Wade that have played 90+ games, the odds of them leaving are low if you make a change their senior year.  I think that does probably make the situation more appealing, especially if you have a good wing in Sneed to build around and feature.  An experienced, stable roster, even if it's C+/B- talent, is going to be more appealing than a complete gut job.

I'm not saying much about their overall ability/ceiling.  I think their experience + physical maturity will make them somewhat better, and having a decent sized class, but not too big, will allow the coach to start bringing in "their guys" without having to start with 7 or 8 new guys.

See Huggins, Bob.
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: renocat on March 29, 2016, 05:18:50 PM
Curdog for president of US.
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: sys on March 29, 2016, 05:59:35 PM
1) Money
2) Lowered risk of roster turnover

If you have the nucleus of Stokes/Brown/Wade that have played 90+ games, the odds of them leaving are low if you make a change their senior year.

ok.  i'm not sure about the money point, afaik, his buyout remains constant (or nearly so) for the life of his contract, so there would be no savings in waiting until the current freshmen's junior year.

you'd be foregoing two years with your preferred coach in order to age three players to the point at which they'd be less likely to transfer.  during that time span, your less preferred coach will recruit a minimum of seven players.  not only do those seven roster spots have value, but those years have value.


jfc, if you value those three freshmen that highly, and value the marginal difference between two years with your preferred coach and two years with your less preferred coach so little, why are you even considering changing coaches?
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: Trim on March 29, 2016, 06:11:30 PM
1) Money
2) Lowered risk of roster turnover

If you have the nucleus of Stokes/Brown/Wade that have played 90+ games, the odds of them leaving are low if you make a change their senior year.

ok.  i'm not sure about the money point, afaik, his buyout remains constant (or nearly so) for the life of his contract, so there would be no savings in waiting until the current freshmen's junior year.

Pretty much.  It's always the lesser of 2.5 million or the remaining base salary on the contract.  It wouldn't be until just before the final year of his current deal '18-19 that KSU could save $250K.

https://ksu-platform-secure-prod.silverchalice.co/v3/files/5583cd5be4b06b726e660350

https://ksu-platform-secure-prod.silverchalice.co/v3/files/5583c3abe4b06b726e65b9bd

https://ksu-platform-secure-prod.silverchalice.co/v3/files/5583b6cee4b06b726e655681
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: michigancat on March 29, 2016, 07:19:04 PM
1) Money
2) Lowered risk of roster turnover

If you have the nucleus of Stokes/Brown/Wade that have played 90+ games, the odds of them leaving are low if you make a change their senior year.

ok.  i'm not sure about the money point, afaik, his buyout remains constant (or nearly so) for the life of his contract, so there would be no savings in waiting until the current freshmen's junior year.

you'd be foregoing two years with your preferred coach in order to age three players to the point at which they'd be less likely to transfer.  during that time span, your less preferred coach will recruit a minimum of seven players.  not only do those seven roster spots have value, but those years have value.


jfc, if you value those three freshmen that highly, and value the marginal difference between two years with your preferred coach and two years with your less preferred coach so little, why are you even considering changing coaches?

I didn't know the info on the buyout Trim just shared, which I'll admit changes things.

I'm thinking you might have better candidates available with a good returning roster that is unlikely to transfer. And it would only be one extra year. So like, if you can't get someone decent to coach after next season, let him stick around another. And of course, if he makes the NCAA tourney next year it's extension time.
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: sys on March 29, 2016, 07:26:54 PM
I'm thinking you might have better candidates available with a good returning roster that is unlikely to transfer. And it would only be one extra year. So like, if you can't get someone decent to coach after next season, let him stick around another. And of course, if he makes the NCAA tourney next year it's extension time.

two extra years from this year.

there's no reason to speculate on attracting better candidates in one year or another (which likely will depend much more on who is available and looking for kstateish jobs than on whether three average players are freshmen, sophs or juniors).  there's no reason to fire weber until you've secured your preferred candidate.  if you fail, then keep him because you couldn't hire who you wanted, not because you think coaches will be salivating at the thought of being able to coach Deathbite for a year.
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: kso_FAN on March 29, 2016, 07:42:23 PM
I'm thinking you might have better candidates available with a good returning roster that is unlikely to transfer. And it would only be one extra year. So like, if you can't get someone decent to coach after next season, let him stick around another. And of course, if he makes the NCAA tourney next year it's extension time.

two extra years from this year.

there's no reason to speculate on attracting better candidates in one year or another (which likely will depend much more on who is available and looking for kstateish jobs than on whether three average players are freshmen, sophs or juniors).  there's no reason to fire weber until you've secured your preferred candidate.  if you fail, then keep him because you couldn't hire who you wanted, not because you think coaches will be salivating at the thought of being able to coach Deathbite for a year.

Maybe Tod Kowalczyk? :dunno:
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: michigancat on March 29, 2016, 07:59:53 PM


I'm thinking you might have better candidates available with a good returning roster that is unlikely to transfer. And it would only be one extra year. So like, if you can't get someone decent to coach after next season, let him stick around another. And of course, if he makes the NCAA tourney next year it's extension time.

two extra years from this year.

there's no reason to speculate on attracting better candidates in one year or another (which likely will depend much more on who is available and looking for kstateish jobs than on whether three average players are freshmen, sophs or juniors).  there's no reason to fire weber until you've secured your preferred candidate.  if you fail, then keep him because you couldn't hire who you wanted, not because you think coaches will be salivating at the thought of being able to coach Deathbite for a year.

He's coming back next year regardless. Other than that I pretty much agree with what you said. Especially since the buyout isn't a factor.
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: pissclams on March 29, 2016, 08:16:35 PM
are there really a lot of coaches that won't come to k-state if we show them the money?  and i'm not talking about extreme $.   i guess that once you establish a commitment to facilities, which we have, a willing fan base, which we have, the rest is just how much we're willing to pay.  a big 12 job, regardless of which of the 10 schools,  is a very good one.

the relevancy of the roster that you 'gloids are debating is minimal, at best.  the type of coach we have to hire is going to need to have strong aau ties and will want his own players in his program, none of this inherited crap.
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: michigancat on March 29, 2016, 08:27:06 PM


are there really a lot of coaches that won't come to k-state if we show them the money?  and i'm not talking about extreme $.   i guess that once you establish a commitment to facilities, which we have, a willing fan base, which we have, the rest is just how much we're willing to pay.  a big 12 job, regardless of which of the 10 schools,  is a very good one.

the relevancy of the roster that you 'gloids are debating is minimal, at best.  the type of coach we have to hire is going to need to have strong aau ties and will want his own players in his program, none of this inherited crap.

You're probably right. Although I think what a coach is inheriting has an impact on which job he takes. If you're a coach choosing between Iowa State and Missouri, for example, you're probably going to choose the one with a significantly better roster.

As long as we aren't Kim Anderson terrible it probably doesn't make much of a difference though.
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 31, 2016, 03:38:13 PM
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why I would've been OK with Brad Underwood coming to K-State. I understand what John is doing, and will support it. I let him know in an email and encourage others to do the same, if they believe that. GO CATS!!!
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: wetwillie on March 31, 2016, 07:59:05 PM
eff, this bad person hasn't been fired yet?
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: sonofdaxjones on March 31, 2016, 10:22:40 PM
Can you get another AD job by boring people to death?   I think it's being attempted at K-State.

Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: ksupamplemousse on March 31, 2016, 10:37:46 PM
Can you get another AD job by boring people to death?   I think it's being attempted at K-State.

John Currie is an accountant, and the last few years have been like tax time, a very thrilling experience for all. Marveling at what shiny new things can be bought with your freshly harvested interest-free loan back from the government. It's truly an experience without peer. But now it's April 16th, and K-State fans are still hanging out with their accountant, wondering to themselves, "How did I not realize how much of a boring, insufferable rat this guy is before now? Why is he still here? Maybe we should have met at this office, I didn't realize how awkward it was going to be to ask him to leave. Doesn't he get the hint? I've checked my watch like 25 times in the last 10 minutes. Does he really have that little self-awareness?"
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: wetwillie on April 01, 2016, 06:10:30 AM
It's nothing like that
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: Woogy on April 01, 2016, 08:50:24 AM
Can you get another AD job by boring people to death?   I think it's being attempted at K-State.

John Currie is an accountant, and the last few years have been like tax time, a very thrilling experience for all. Marveling at what shiny new things can be bought with your freshly harvested interest-free loan back from the government. It's truly an experience without peer. But now it's April 16th, and K-State fans are still hanging out with their accountant, wondering to themselves, "How did I not realize how much of a boring, insufferable rat this guy is before now? Why is he still here? Maybe we should have met at this office, I didn't realize how awkward it was going to be to ask him to leave. Doesn't he get the hint? I've checked my watch like 25 times in the last 10 minutes. Does he really have that little self-awareness?"


GhostbustersCatbusters:

Woman at Party: [coming up to Louis John Currie during party] Do you have any Excedrin or extra-strength Tylenol?
Louis John Currie: [opening cabinet] Gee, I think all I got is acetylsalicylic acid, generic. See, I can get six hundred tablets of that for the same price as three hundred of a name brand. That makes good financial sense, good advice...
 [takes platter back into living room]
Louis John Currie: Hey, this is real smoked salmon from Nova Scotia, Canada, $24.95 a pound! It only cost me $14.12 after tax, though.
 [walks up to a hapless guest, speaking confidentially]
Louis John Currie: I'm givin' this whole thing as a promotional expense, that's why I invited clients instead of friends. You havin' a good time, Mark?
 [heads across the room, greeting other guests]
Louis John Currie: How you doing? Why don't you have some of the brie, it's at room temperature!
 [to the Tall Woman]
Louis John Currie: You think it's too warm in here for the brie?
Tall Woman at Party: [standing] Louis, I'm going home.
Louis John Currie: Aw, don't leave yet. Well, listen, maybe if we start dancing other people will join in!
Tall Woman at Party: [pauses] Okay!
 [Louis John Currie and the Tall Woman begin disco dancing. Suddenly the doorbell rings]
Louis John Currie: Oh, don't move, I just gotta get the door.
 [opens door, greeting guests]
Louis John Currie: Ted! Annette! I'm glad you could come, how you doin', give me your coats. Everybody, this is Ted and Annette Fleming! Ted has a small carpet cleaning business in receivership; Annette's drawing a salary from a deferred bonus from two years ago! They got fifteen thousand left on the house at eight percent.
 [throws the guests' coats in the closet, oblivious that they hit the Terror Dog hiding there]
Louis John Currie: So they're okay! So, does anybody wanna play Parcheesi?
 [the Terror Dog growls from inside the bedroom]
Louis John Currie: [grinning] Okay, who brought the dog?
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 01, 2016, 08:56:01 AM
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Happy Birthday to ?#?KState? Athletics Director John Currie!
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 01, 2016, 09:54:54 AM
That was from K-Statesports on facebook. Here are the comments.... :lol:

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wackycat08 Get lost, Currie!
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Roger Gibbs In the interest of being a "stand up guy" and "the type of player we want" I'll say happy birthday instead of I really really really wish we would unload this guy and bring in someone who, I don't know, enjoys winning and not running off talent?
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Nick Friesen APRIL FOOLS! Not sure anyone cares about this
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Dan Morgan Please resign like Lon Kruger did in 1990. Take oscar Weber with you.
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Clint Hamblin Andy Reed shares a birthday with John Currie? Are you going to have a party together?
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Eric Buyle Well this didn't backfire or anything!
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Zach Steger Fire this SOB.
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Scott Bradley #FireCurrie
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Robin Sellens Happy birthday
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Rob Nagely Trenton Cox Jacob Nagely check out theses comments
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 01, 2016, 09:55:55 AM
Robin!   :lol:
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: GoCats on April 02, 2016, 06:36:09 PM
Long time listener, first time caller.
I'll leave this here, sorry if Luked.
http://cjonline.com/sports/catzone/2015-05-01/k-state-ad-john-currie-signs-one-year-contract-extension
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: The Big Train on April 02, 2016, 06:46:38 PM
did you know that was an article from may 1, 2015?
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: The Big Train on April 02, 2016, 06:47:21 PM
also that is a pretty premium screen name!
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: SkinnyBenny on April 02, 2016, 08:52:17 PM
Long time listener, first time caller.
I'll leave this here, sorry if Luked.
http://cjonline.com/sports/catzone/2015-05-01/k-state-ad-john-currie-signs-one-year-contract-extension

INCREDS first post :love:
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: steve dave on April 02, 2016, 09:17:49 PM
lol
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: star seed 7 on April 02, 2016, 09:22:05 PM
amazing
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: slobber on April 02, 2016, 09:33:38 PM
TBT=The Big Turd


Gonna win 'em all! (using Tapatalk)
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: GoCats on April 02, 2016, 09:35:02 PM
did you know that was an article from may 1, 2015?

Yes, but my point is that John has no financial incentive to care about winning. At the end of the day he gets his $$ and doesn't have to deal with a coach that may or may not participate in local charities.
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: steve dave on April 02, 2016, 09:38:20 PM
My point is go cats
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: wetwillie on April 02, 2016, 09:40:59 PM
Welcome GoCats
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: CNS on April 02, 2016, 09:44:12 PM
GoCats, what are your thoughts on Dyson vacuums vs other brands?

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Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: The Big Train on April 02, 2016, 09:48:19 PM
gocats, implied posts when you have never posted before aside.  welcome to gE!  what is your favorite weight room slogan?

- TBT(not The Big Turd, he's old and senile so idk what he is talking about)
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: star seed 7 on April 02, 2016, 09:51:13 PM
what?
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: bones129 on April 02, 2016, 11:16:33 PM
 :popcorn:
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: slobber on April 03, 2016, 09:33:04 AM
gocats, implied posts when you have never posted before aside.  welcome to gE!  what is your favorite weight room slogan?

- TBT(not The Big Turd, he's old and senile so idk what he is talking about)
Mods?
:wink:
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: MadCat on April 04, 2016, 03:56:36 PM
~MODS?!~
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: CHONGS on April 04, 2016, 04:18:07 PM
~MODS?!~
Guys, my IP tracers never came back. I am not saying he's an untraceable super hacker, but I am not ready to rule it out yet either.
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: Trim on April 08, 2016, 04:11:32 PM
https://t.co/OK03UbXLNa (https://t.co/OK03UbXLNa)

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“Clearly, he has the right values and he has been embedded in the community with his support of different things – Coaches vs. Cancer, the United Way, you name it,” Currie said.

https://twitter.com/gamecockmbb/status/718485035830128640
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: sys on April 08, 2016, 04:26:36 PM
no wonder he got that extension.
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: Trim on April 08, 2016, 04:29:14 PM
no wonder he got that extension.

We'd have all seen it coming if you'd been tracking the frank vs. oscar cancer-fight'n stats in addition to all that kenpom stuff.
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: sys on April 08, 2016, 04:34:43 PM
i blame captain crap for not clueing (cluing, it can't actually be cluing, can it?) us in.
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: Trim on April 08, 2016, 04:38:38 PM
clue'n
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on April 08, 2016, 04:38:57 PM
It is cluing. Weird.
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: star seed 7 on April 08, 2016, 05:23:37 PM
Has Frank's head gotten smaller?
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: 'taterblast on April 11, 2016, 11:30:07 AM
he's rough ridin' trolling us. holy crap.

https://twitter.com/John_Currie/status/719562412479746048
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: ELL3 on April 11, 2016, 06:32:34 PM
he's rough ridin' trolling us. holy crap.

https://twitter.com/John_Currie/status/719562412479746048

His birthday was April 1st?
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: #LIFE on April 22, 2016, 09:38:35 AM
https://twitter.com/KellisRobinett/status/723519185221898240
Title: Fire John Currie
Post by: The Big Train on April 22, 2016, 09:40:05 AM
https://twitter.com/KellisRobinett/status/723519185221898240

You beat me by 1 minute to post this :curse:
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: wetwillie on April 22, 2016, 09:45:40 AM
oscar just fist pumped his ass off
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: The Big Train on April 22, 2016, 09:46:44 AM
If you build it you will be rewarded, winning doesn't matter
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 22, 2016, 10:13:19 AM
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John has done a great job dealing with some very unfortunate, divisive, unpopular situations....IMO, K-State Athletics has definitely progressed during his time here.
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 22, 2016, 10:20:40 AM
Me on K-state salute: "woof!"

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Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: kso_FAN on April 22, 2016, 11:34:30 AM
Kirk is just trolling gE on the way out. Very animal-esque.
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: 'taterblast on April 22, 2016, 11:54:19 AM
Me on K-state salute: "woof!"

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Please remember our rules when posting. Thank you. Admin

you're doing a great job in there
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: renocat on April 22, 2016, 01:22:45 PM
What is success? Beautiful buildings without the souls of passionate fans or passionate fan base who do not care where the hell their team plays?  Two more curdog years may seem like 14.
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 22, 2016, 01:27:27 PM
Me on K-state salute: "woof!"

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Please remember our rules when posting. Thank you. Admin

you're doing a great job in there
Thanks bud. That admin is clueless when it comes to sarcasm.
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: GregKSU1027 on April 22, 2016, 02:43:36 PM
he's rough ridin' trolling us. holy crap.

https://twitter.com/John_Currie/status/719562412479746048

His birthday was April 1st?
His birth itself was a joke and god was like holy rough ridin' crap guys wait til he has to coach MBB at KSU.  :Bonk:
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: #LIFE on April 22, 2016, 04:27:51 PM
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the a.d.'s job is more than winning games, as people at unc, louisville, baylor and other places are finding out.

the a.d. is responsible for compliance, facilities, academics, financials as well as winning.  what john has done in each of those areas is pretty remarkable.  he's on almost every list for other schools looking for athletic directors and has won numerous awards and appointments in recognition of his outstanding performance here at k-state.
 
and directly to your point, i'd suggest that ending the ncaa nightmare and unacceptable image that k-state faced with frank martin is far more important than a couple years of under-performing hoops, particularly when his replacement hung a banner not seen here since the 80's.  and furthermore, i'd expect this to be a most succesful hoops' program this coming season.

john currie is also a great face for the institution.  bright, articulate, forthcoming and admired.
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: Cartierfor3 on April 22, 2016, 04:30:58 PM
LHC Bill Snyder is the only reason I root for K State sports.
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: The Big Train on April 22, 2016, 04:36:41 PM
What happens when he dies?
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: Tobias on April 22, 2016, 04:38:38 PM
he'll be... THUNDER STRUCK!
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: wetwillie on April 22, 2016, 04:40:45 PM
LHC LHC Bill Snyder is the only reason I root for K State sports.

I'll just wait Currie out and cheer for the royals in the mean time.   
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: Cartierfor3 on April 22, 2016, 04:44:10 PM
LHC LHC Bill Snyder is the only reason I root for K State sports.

I'll just wait Currie out and cheer for the royals in the mean time.   

of course. I'm not done forever. I just don't give much of a crap
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: CNS on April 22, 2016, 07:19:10 PM
What happens when he dies?
Pretty obvs.  KU will succeed at football and have winning season after winning season.

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Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 22, 2016, 09:07:01 PM
Probably lose a bowl game at 6-6 and decide those games don't matter all of a sudden. #science
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: Steffy08 on April 22, 2016, 09:09:29 PM
So is Schultz responsible for this? 
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: sys on April 22, 2016, 11:04:06 PM
snyder can beat this guy.  have faith.
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: bones129 on April 22, 2016, 11:07:38 PM
snyder can beat this guy.  have faith.

 :thumbs:
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: Trim on April 22, 2016, 11:09:57 PM
snyder can beat this guy.  have faith.

He beat hollywoods.
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: sys on April 22, 2016, 11:11:25 PM
snyder can beat this guy.  have faith.

He beat hollywoods.

he may be undefeated.
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: Ptolemy on April 22, 2016, 11:47:29 PM
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the a.d.'s job is more than winning games, as people at unc, louisville, baylor and other places are finding out.
Thanks for noting something NOBODY ELSE KNEW!

the a.d. is responsible for compliance, facilities, academics, financials as well as winning.  what john has done in each of those areas is pretty remarkable. 
Remarkable in that he has embarrassed the university on a national scale with the Leticia Romero incident, Jayhawk-Starship Enterprise, EMAW, Ecocat, Sandstorm, Sportmanship Pledges, and in just looking like an awkward Neidermeyer. 
 
and directly to your point, i'd suggest that ending the ncaa nightmare and unacceptable image that k-state faced with frank martin is far more important than a couple years of under-performing hoops, particularly when his replacement hung a banner not seen here since the 80's.  and furthermore, i'd expect this to be a most succesful hoops' program this coming season. South Carolina is obviously suffering greatly from the "unacceptable image...of Frank Martin!"
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: Steffy08 on April 23, 2016, 08:32:04 AM
So Schultz gives his fellow deuschbag an extension on his way out?  This guys sure know how to take care of each other.  Schultz shouldn't be making these decisions on his way out; the paper said Myers "supported" the decision; if so, then f him too.  Extremely unprofessional on Schultz's part, but I'm not surprised.

Please Currie just go away.  I don't want Snyder to have to coach until he is 85, and ruin his legacy, just to save the program from you.
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: wetwillie on April 23, 2016, 08:50:20 AM
Relax steffy the new guy can still fire his ass with ease
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 23, 2016, 10:08:18 AM
Relax steffy the new guy can still fire his ass with ease
That buyout tho :frown:
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: wetwillie on April 23, 2016, 10:52:24 AM
Relax steffy the new guy can still fire his ass with ease
That buyout tho :frown:

It's 1.5 million....Snyder might write that check himself.
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: sys on April 23, 2016, 06:10:48 PM
snyder wouldn't write a check for his own groceries.  but he'll find another way.  that old man is a winner.
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: wetwillie on April 23, 2016, 06:13:03 PM
snyder wouldn't write a check for his own groceries.  but he'll find another way.  that old man is a winner.

Well I meant he would make the vaniers write it but yea.
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: sys on April 23, 2016, 06:14:32 PM
I meant he would make the vaniers write it.

that's our synder.
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: slobber on April 23, 2016, 08:49:58 PM
I meant he would make the vaniers write it.

that's our synder.
Face it. If Snyder said he wanted JC gone, donors would contribute $20MM to make it happen. 
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: The Big Train on April 23, 2016, 09:00:55 PM
I mean I can fire a new site up if we need it(see what I did there :Keke:)
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: Trim on April 24, 2016, 12:21:52 PM
I'm trying to put the full JOHN CURRIE CONTRACT chronology here so that when I want to look at them I can search that instead of having to bounce around the janky kstatesports site and various newspapers.

2009:

http://www.kstatesports.com/news/genrel_051809aaa_html (haven't yet found a link for the actual contract, but it got replaced, not amended, so whatever)

http://www.kstatesports.com/news/genrel_010510aaa_html

http://www.k-state.edu/media/newsreleases/jan10/curriecompplan.pdf


2011:

http://www.kstatesports.com/news/genrel_011011aaa_html

http://www.k-state.edu/media/newsreleases/jan11/curriecontract.pdf


2012:

http://www.kstatesports.com/news/genrel_060612aaa_html (kstatesports' link to the actual document doesn't work, and I haven't found it via newspaper yet)

http://cjonline.com/sports/2012-06-06/currie-earns-2-year-extension-k-state

http://www.kansas.com/sports/college/big-12/kansas-state/article1093341.html


2013:

http://www.kstatesports.com/news/genrel_122013aaa_html (no document provided, and I haven't found it via newspaper yet)

http://cjonline.com/sports/2013-12-20/k-state-gives-ad-currie-one-year-extension

http://www.kansas.com/sports/college/big-12/kansas-state/article1130085.html


2015:

http://www.kstatesports.com/news/genrel_050115aaa_html (the infamous "Athletic Team Performance Bonus - This section shall be stricken and deleted" amendment; kstatsports' link to that actual document doesn't work, but I found it via newspaper)

http://cjonline.com/sports/catzone/2015-05-01/k-state-ad-john-currie-signs-one-year-contract-extension

http://www.kansascity.com/sports/college/big-12/kansas-state/article20034684.ece/BINARY/John%20Currie%20K-State%20contract%20PDF


2016:

http://www.kstatesports.com/news/contract-extension-announced-for-john-currie-04-22-2016

https://ksu-platform-secure-prod.silverchalice.co/v3/files/571a378de4b02bb336a3d4ed

Quote
The idea of a contract extension was first mentioned by outgoing university president Kirk Schulz, Currie said. He initiated talks last week after discussing the idea with the Kansas Board of Regents.

Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/sports/college/big-12/kansas-state/article73303317.html#storylink=cpy
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: Trim on April 24, 2016, 01:34:40 PM
Quote
https://ksu-platform-secure-prod.silverchalice.co/v3/files/571a378de4b02bb336a3d4ed

Wonder if he rolled a big fattie with Randolph after signing this  :bigtoke:

Nope, attempted high-five w/Schulz but missed. 

The pit'rs who argue that Obama shouldn't get to appoint Scalia's replacement should cite this whole Schulz/Currie deal in their arguments.
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: Ptolemy on April 24, 2016, 07:03:25 PM
I guarandamntee you that when Weber fumbles this team into the lower third of the conference and misses the NCAA tournament again next year, Weber and Currie are going to blame the growing grumbling and lack of fan support for the team's shortcomings. He might as well just say it now as a precursor to the season - just to cover all his bases.
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on April 24, 2016, 07:27:11 PM
Look at that, our very own A Beautiful Mind. What a tool/weirdo.
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: Ptolemy on April 25, 2016, 12:05:32 AM
Look at that, our very own A Beautiful Mind. What a tool/weirdo.

Why the hate bro?
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on April 25, 2016, 08:54:51 AM
Not directed at you P, you're not the one with the push pin and yarn board connexting the dots in this alleged conspiracy.
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: Ptolemy on April 25, 2016, 11:05:11 PM
Thx for the clarification.

I officially dumped the season tix tonight. Was holding out slim hope that Schultz leaving for a realm more accepting of EcoCat would precipitate real change. Got to vote with my feet.
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: eastcat on April 25, 2016, 11:09:31 PM
Really dislike Schultz for screwing us over with a longer John contract.
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: wetwillie on April 26, 2016, 06:49:14 AM
The BOR signed off on it, this wasn't a last minute stay of execution that no one was able to stop.
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: Winters on April 26, 2016, 10:55:03 AM
We should get a new BOR
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: Trim on April 26, 2016, 10:58:13 AM
We should get a new BOR

#CUTTHEHEADSOFF
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 26, 2016, 10:58:54 AM
I don't think the BOR has to officially sign off on contract extensions for athletic department personnel 
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: CNS on April 26, 2016, 01:42:42 PM
Can you even imagine who Brownback would position on a new BOR?  Probably better off to keep this one for a little while. 
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on April 27, 2016, 08:31:02 AM
Can you even imagine who Brownback would position on a new BOR?  Probably better off to keep this one for a little while.

I thought Brownback appointed all of them.
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: MadCat on April 28, 2016, 03:58:06 PM
Hail Hydra
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: CNS on April 28, 2016, 04:04:45 PM
Trying to buy your love with Zac Brown Band.
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: CatMission on April 29, 2016, 02:38:01 PM
Ole Miss needs a clean cut, by the book AD to clean up the mess of last night. Anyone know where a nice Southern, seersucker suit wearing AD can be found?


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Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on April 30, 2016, 08:00:47 AM
Anyone who wants Currie fired is insane
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: Institutional Control on May 06, 2016, 12:23:51 PM
If anyone is interested in claiming www.firejohncurrie.com it should be available soon. It currently points back to goEMAW.com but I will not be renewing the registration. 
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: CNS on May 06, 2016, 12:31:17 PM
Contact the AD and offer it to them for $10k
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: Trim on May 06, 2016, 12:51:45 PM
Renew it.  Auction it off at FattyFest.
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: Institutional Control on May 06, 2016, 01:22:18 PM
I guess it doesn't expire until next year.  How would I go about putting it into the auction? I won't be able to attend.
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: Institutional Control on May 06, 2016, 01:31:36 PM
Whatever I have to do, put me down for donating www.firejohncurrie.com for the  auction.
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: The Big Train on May 06, 2016, 01:38:43 PM
It renewed like a month ago, you also didn't do a private registration
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: Institutional Control on May 06, 2016, 01:42:31 PM
It renewed like a month ago, you also didn't do a private registration

Does that mean John Currie could show up at my house one day and punch me in the face?
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: The Big Train on May 06, 2016, 01:51:02 PM
It renewed like a month ago, you also didn't do a private registration

Does that mean John Currie could show up at my house one day and punch me in the face?

Probably an intern but yes
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: The Big Train on May 06, 2016, 01:51:38 PM
Also I own "firecurrie.today" it doesn't do anything right now but I would put it up for auction as well
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: Trim on May 06, 2016, 01:52:42 PM
Whatever I have to do, put me down for donating www.firejohncurrie.com for the  auction.

Probably just have people bid on you turning it over to them in whatever fashion that consists of, whether that can be done now or set up to where they'd be able to get it right as it expires before anyone else could.  :dunno:
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: The Big Train on May 06, 2016, 01:56:23 PM
If it's registered on godaddy it's a really easy process to transfer domain names between different owners
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: Institutional Control on May 06, 2016, 01:58:05 PM
Yeah, i can transfer it immediately after the auction and it won't need renewed until March.
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: Trim on May 06, 2016, 02:01:47 PM
Yeah, i can transfer it immediately after the auction and it won't need renewed until March.

Sounds like a solid auction item.  Maybe throw in a promise to do a crash course on how to actually do anything with it, even if it's just rerouting to here for now or displaying the word TRAJECTORY in giant letters?
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: Institutional Control on May 06, 2016, 02:25:27 PM
Consider it done.

 :cheers:
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: The Big Train on May 06, 2016, 02:34:27 PM
Also I wasn't trying to steal anybodies thunder, just trying to raise as much $$$ as possible
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: Ptolemy on May 06, 2016, 05:57:13 PM
Currie on BITB. Tied football to men's bball. Both finished 8th. Those are normal cycles in the Big 12 apparently. Currie's on new UP search committee. He's honored to be asked to serve.

Dude will be imbedded like a tick.

 
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: pissclams on May 10, 2016, 06:36:35 PM
It renewed like a month ago, you also didn't do a private registration

private registration?  phhhsssttt  LOL  :lol:
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: The Big Train on May 10, 2016, 06:37:47 PM
:confused:
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: eastcat on May 14, 2016, 08:29:09 PM
Currie on BITB. Tied football to men's bball. Both finished 8th. Those are normal cycles in the Big 12 apparently. Currie's on new UP search committee. He's honored to be asked to serve.

Dude will be imbedded like a tick.

"Uh yeah folks, we aren't good right now but that's totally normal and to be expected! More good news tho! Just a few more donations and we can finally get that new limestone wall y'all want! Don't forget to buy mens bball tickets oscar has quite the squad this year, we might even beat KU at home!" - john
Title: Re: Fire John Currie
Post by: bones129 on May 14, 2016, 11:32:02 PM
 :excited: