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General Discussion => The New Joe Montgomery Birther Pit => Topic started by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on March 17, 2016, 08:43:22 PM
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Lib7: he's not smart or clever, and he just votes dem
So now she's too incompetent to denigrate the publics confidence in the political system?
Hillary :curse:
:lol:
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Yes, someone is definitely outted by this thread
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What's the most shallow and thoughtless thing I can post right now? Oh here it is, from chum hill rod supporter
I don't vote. But if I did, I'd vote for her because having a woman president serves the greater good more than any of the other issues people like to discuss.
Unsurprisingly, Michigancat and 'teve 'ave think this is great because, well, they are also thoughtless idiots.
But that's what thoughtless idiots do, they tell each other how great they are for being thoughtless idiots #thinkprogress
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Yes, someone is definitely outted by this thread
:lol:
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How am I a supporter? I don't vote myself let alone encourage anyone else to.
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Have fun outing 55-60% of American voters!
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Man, what a huge meltdown from closet hillrods.
Chum, 8man, Michigan, 'teve 'ave
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Yes, this thread is definitely outing a meltdown by someone
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I'm a republican
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I'm a republican
Same
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It will be interesting to see which librards stand fast against the [wo]man, and which wither and abandoned their fleeting "principles" to support their master
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Yes, this thread is definitely outing a meltdown by someone
:lol: take a cold shower before you're nothing but a puddle :lol:
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Permission requested to hereby always refer to Steve Dave as 'teve 'ave
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I mean somebody typed this into the Internet, and two people rushed to :thumbs: it :lol:
Quote from: chum1 on Today at 06:41:47 PM
I don't vote. But if I did, I'd vote for her because having a woman president serves the greater good more than any of the other issues people like to discuss.
So sophomoric
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Permission requested to hereby always refer to Steve Dave as 'teve 'ave
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If there's one thing voters care about this year, it's Libya.
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This thread has made me laugh tonight. Thank you for that.
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Have fun outing 55-60% of American voters!
She can't get 50% of Democrats voting in the primaries
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Notwithstanding the ongoing fbi criminal investigation and the absurd lies about benghazi, she seems immensely qualified.
-chum, 'teve 'ave, Michicat, 8man
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45 just makes these guys morph into Jose Ramos, I mean you guys know he's a bitch right?
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She nearly finished a term as senator and sos job for a bit, so she's super qualified. :weirdrobert:
Also, she's a woman and married a guy with experience, and that's super important in psychopath land
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But did you guys see her on Broad City?
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FSD is taking this particularly hard.
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Wetwillie melts down :Crybaby:
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i said i would be rooting for her. i should have been included in this thread. :don'tcare:
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Permission requested to hereby always refer to Steve Dave as 'teve 'ave
Granted
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alcohol drugs or normal drugs?
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alcohol drugs or normal drugs?
Not enough drugs, I think.
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Not your grandfather's FSD. :frown:
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I don't vote. But if I did, I'd vote for her because having a woman president serves the greater good more than any of the other issues people like to discuss.
This is a great point.
Is it really a great point?
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I don't vote. But if I did, I'd vote for her because having a woman president serves the greater good more than any of the other issues people like to discuss.
This is a great point.
Is it really a great point?
Yes! :)
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Has anyone met a hill rod supporter irl, yet?
I'm having a hard time imaging what such a psychopathic loser that person might look like?
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B.O. came out endorsing hillrod today. I would imagine if there's a person out there who actually had a shred of respect left for that ass clown, that respect is gone. #feelthebern
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I haven't talked to anyone IRL that likes Hillary. I live in NE though. A few on social media but not many.
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People who are pure party liners (even those that try and deny it . . . cough) are going to vote for Hillary, and they're too stupid to know they're voting for war, lies, corruption, U.S. hegemony and stealth racism.
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i would be proud to vote for her if i lived in a state where my vote might conceivably matter. i think she'll make a fine president.
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People who are pure party liners (even those that try and deny it . . . cough) are going to vote for Hillary, and they're too stupid to know they're voting for war, lies, corruption, U.S. hegemony and stealth racism.
Ok, what are they voting for with Trump?
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I haven't talked to anyone IRL that likes Hillary. I live in NE though. A few on social media but not many.
If you want to, come to fattyfest and talk to Mrs. KK.
I am despairing at my options this fall and will likely vote for Gary johnson as a protest vote.
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People who are pure party liners (even those that try and deny it . . . cough) are going to vote for Hillary, and they're too stupid to know they're voting for war, lies, corruption, U.S. hegemony and stealth racism.
Ok, what are they voting for with Trump?
Hillary is a known commodity, the track record is defined and set in stone. Nice work, "centerist" deflector. Hillarite outed!
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I haven't talked to anyone IRL that likes Hillary. I live in NE though. A few on social media but not many.
If you want to, come to fattyfest and talk to Mrs. KK.
I am despairing at my options this fall and will likely vote for Gary johnson as a protest vote.
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Wasting your time
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Actually, Hillary is more honest than Trump by default. Because that dude will legit say ANYTHING.
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I haven't talked to anyone IRL that likes Hillary. I live in NE though. A few on social media but not many.
If you want to, come to fattyfest and talk to Mrs. KK.
I am despairing at my options this fall and will likely vote for Gary johnson as a protest vote.
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Wasting your time
Well, yeah my vote is negated by lots of idiots, but down ballot there are some races of import, not least of which is the KS Supreme Court. So while I am there might as well pick a presidential candidate.
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Actually, Hillary is more honest than Trump by default. Because that dude will legit say ANYTHING.
:lol:
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I would like to be outed as a HillRod supporter, please. I even hope she chooses Elizabeth Warren as her VP.
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I would like to be outed as a HillRod supporter, please. I even hope she chooses Elizabeth Warren as her VP.
Can't see that, Warren doesn't like war while Hillary loves war.
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I would like to be outed as a HillRod supporter, please. I even hope she chooses Elizabeth Warren as her VP.
Can't see that, Warren doesn't like war while Hillary loves war.
If Paula and MC Skat Kat could make it work, I'm sure Hill and Liz will figure it out.
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I haven't talked to anyone IRL that likes Hillary. I live in NE though. A few on social media but not many.
If you want to, come to fattyfest and talk to Mrs. KK.
I am despairing at my options this fall and will likely vote for Gary johnson as a protest vote.
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Wasting your time
Not at all. Johnson will be the biggest 3rd party candidate since perot. Reaching the threshold for a 3rd party to get election funds and participate in debates can be positive for the country, even if it's weirdo libertarians
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I'm pretty sure I'll vote for Johnson even though he's really strange. Seems like he did an ok job with New Mexico.
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Or maybe not.
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I haven't talked to anyone IRL that likes Hillary. I live in NE though. A few on social media but not many.
If you want to, come to fattyfest and talk to Mrs. KK.
I am despairing at my options this fall and will likely vote for Gary johnson as a protest vote.
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#imwithkk
Even though he might be a Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!), he's the only one of the 3 even remotely qualified to be president (also the least Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!))
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Johnson is a great vote to keep your conscience clean, IMO. Probably won't win, but could conceivably give rise to another legit third party (true moderate party???) providing a landing spot for non-crazy republicans and democrats.
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GA-RY! GA-RY! GA-RY!
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I'll be voting for Gary in November.
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People who are pure party liners (even those that try and deny it . . . cough) are going to vote for Hillary, and they're too stupid to know they're voting for war, lies, corruption, U.S. hegemony and stealth racism.
I've never voted for a Republican, except for those stupid ass judges, and likely never will in an election that matters but I'm not voting for her.
I also love how dax acts like he isn't a "pure party liner." I don't understand why being a party liner is a bad thing if that party aligns with your ideals.
Also GMAFB with Gary Johnson, Jesus Christ.
No federal funding for stem cell research.
rough ridin' come on, if you're going to throw your vote away may as well vote for Kermit The Frog
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People who are pure party liners (even those that try and deny it . . . cough) are going to vote for Hillary, and they're too stupid to know they're voting for war, lies, corruption, U.S. hegemony and stealth racism.
I've never voted for a Republican, except for those stupid ass judges, and likely never will in an election that matters but I'm not voting for her.
I also love how dax acts like he isn't a "pure party liner." I don't understand why being a party liner is a bad thing if that party aligns with your ideals.
Also GMAFB with Gary Johnson, Jesus Christ.
No federal funding for stem cell research.
rough ridin' come on, if you're going to throw your vote away may as well vote for Kermit The Frog
I mean, if you want to federally fund as little as possible, some good things that should be funded somehow are going to get cut. That's a weird place to pick something out
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MIR, always explaining. Sad
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People who are pure party liners (even those that try and deny it . . . cough) are going to vote for Hillary, and they're too stupid to know they're voting for war, lies, corruption, U.S. hegemony and stealth racism.
I've never voted for a Republican, except for those stupid ass judges, and likely never will in an election that matters but I'm not voting for her.
I also love how dax acts like he isn't a "pure party liner." I don't understand why being a party liner is a bad thing if that party aligns with your ideals.
Also GMAFB with Gary Johnson, Jesus Christ.
No federal funding for stem cell research.
rough ridin' come on, if you're going to throw your vote away may as well vote for Kermit The Frog
I mean, if you want to federally fund as little as possible, some good things that should be funded somehow are going to get cut. That's a weird place to pick something out
Except for the fact that he's less absolute about funding the following
The Fed
Death Penalty
Needle exchanges
School vouchers (how in the hell can you be for smaller government then advocate providing money for vouchers?)
Alternative energy
"Fatherhood" initiatives, WTF?
Rural health services
Social Security
The issue with libertarians is that they don't actually oppose government involvement, just in the things they deem important. The stem cell opposition reeks of a religious litmus test, he certainly can't justify the opposition under the guise of not wanting to use government funds.
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MIR, always explaining. Sad
I don't know how it took so long to come to this conclusion, but I think I just realized that you aren't very rough ridin' bright. How does that pass as clever for you? Actually don't answer, it won't be the last bit intriguing.
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MIR, always explaining. Sad
I don't know how it took so long to come to this conclusion, but I think I just realized that you aren't very rough ridin' bright. How does that pass as clever for you? Actually don't answer, it won't be the last bit intriguing.
Me not very bright?
You're constantly over explaining, you regularly miss the point entirely and you have the geo-political understanding and depth of a thimble. It's extremely weird that a guy who isn't voting for Hillary but yet consistently manages to hop to her defense at every conceivable turn, weird, huh?
It's the same screed over and over from MIR.
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MIR, always explaining. Sad
I don't know how it took so long to come to this conclusion, but I think I just realized that you aren't very rough ridin' bright. How does that pass as clever for you? Actually don't answer, it won't be the last bit intriguing.
Me not very bright?
You're constantly over explaining, you regularly miss the point entirely and you have the geo-political understanding and depth of a thimble. It's extremely weird that a guy who isn't voting for Hillary but yet consistently manages to hop to her defense at every conceivable turn, weird, huh?
It's the same screed over and over from MIR.
What did I explain and how was that in anyway a defense of Hillary? I simply pointed out your weird and completely unnecessary hypocrisy.
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MIR, always explaining. Sad
I don't know how it took so long to come to this conclusion, but I think I just realized that you aren't very rough ridin' bright. How does that pass as clever for you? Actually don't answer, it won't be the last bit intriguing.
Me not very bright?
You're constantly over explaining, you regularly miss the point entirely and you have the geo-political understanding and depth of a thimble. It's extremely weird that a guy who isn't voting for Hillary but yet consistently manages to hop to her defense at every conceivable turn, weird, huh?
It's the same screed over and over from MIR.
What did I explain and how was that in anyway a defense of Hillary? I simply pointed out your weird and completely unnecessary hypocrisy.
It seems like you've explained your whole party line shtick about a 1000 times, and you're regularly jumping to Hillary's defense in between posts about how you hate her.
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MIR, always explaining. Sad
I don't know how it took so long to come to this conclusion, but I think I just realized that you aren't very rough ridin' bright. How does that pass as clever for you? Actually don't answer, it won't be the last bit intriguing.
Me not very bright?
You're constantly over explaining, you regularly miss the point entirely and you have the geo-political understanding and depth of a thimble. It's extremely weird that a guy who isn't voting for Hillary but yet consistently manages to hop to her defense at every conceivable turn, weird, huh?
It's the same screed over and over from MIR.
What did I explain and how was that in anyway a defense of Hillary? I simply pointed out your weird and completely unnecessary hypocrisy.
It seems like you've explained your whole party line shtick about a 1000 times, and you're regularly jumping to Hillary's defense in between posts about how you hate her.
You repeated the same nonsensical post back to back; like I said, not very bright.
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MIR, always explaining. Sad
I don't know how it took so long to come to this conclusion, but I think I just realized that you aren't very rough ridin' bright. How does that pass as clever for you? Actually don't answer, it won't be the last bit intriguing.
Me not very bright?
You're constantly over explaining, you regularly miss the point entirely and you have the geo-political understanding and depth of a thimble. It's extremely weird that a guy who isn't voting for Hillary but yet consistently manages to hop to her defense at every conceivable turn, weird, huh?
It's the same screed over and over from MIR.
What did I explain and how was that in anyway a defense of Hillary? I simply pointed out your weird and completely unnecessary hypocrisy.
It seems like you've explained your whole party line shtick about a 1000 times, and you're regularly jumping to Hillary's defense in between posts about how you hate her.
You repeated the same nonsensical post back to back; like I said, not very bright.
So specifically answering your question about over explaining is a "nonsensical" post and how you defend Hillary while hating her, is a "nonsensical" post? Fascinating logic.
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People who are pure party liners (even those that try and deny it . . . cough) are going to vote for Hillary, and they're too stupid to know they're voting for war, lies, corruption, U.S. hegemony and stealth racism.
Ok, what are they voting for with Trump?
Hillary is a known commodity, the track record is defined and set in stone. Nice work, "centerist" deflector. Hillarite outed!
Agreed. I actually mentioned that in a post in another thread.
Hillary will bring us 4/8 more years of the last 24 we've already had. Status quo mediocrity.
yeah, I hate hillary clinton. I think she's awful and very cringey in everything she does. that said, I have to vote for her because I have a pretty amazing life. with stupid hillary I know I'll continue to live in the same world I've lived in these last tons of years. that is comforting. bernie sanders terrifies me because I make a decent amount of coin. donald trump terrifies me for literally every reason. there is more upside to either bernie or donald, I actually believe that. hillary doesn't terrify me though, she just makes me sad. #i'mwithstupidher.
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Hillary Clinton received high praise from Henry Kissinger, a man that was absolutely loathed on every conceivable level by Democrats, liberals and Prog-Liberals. A man that many prog-libs repeatedly and with great zeal called to be brought up on war crimes, even to this day. Today's Dems and fake Centrists don't even know who they are anymore. :lol:
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dax, do people listen to you a bit and then just shrug and walk away IRL or can you have conversations?
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dax, do people listen to you a bit and then just shrug and walk away IRL or can you have conversations?
I didn't realize we were having a direct conversation SD, typically on this message board that requires the "" function.
It seems strange as the mountain of evidence continues to grow at nearly an exponential rate regarding how horrible Hillary is on a factual level i.e. horribleness ingrained and chiseled into the annuals of history as actual implemented and carried forth U.S. policy and actual real life events that occurred while she occupied public office, even on an ex-officio level (as opposed to political stump speeches). That Dems and the like are increasingly angst laden.
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i think (through my explanation filter) maybe the former, sd?
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I'm voting more against Trump than for Hillary.
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I'm voting more against Trump than for Hillary.
No way Hillary wins Oklahoma. Right?
In Texas, I feel I'm safe voting for Johnson without handing the election to Trump.
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Anyone claiming that trump is for sure worse than hillary has a shitload of explaining to do, because that position is intellectually incongruent on every level.
Or, just admit that you're a Democrat shill, and I'll add you to the list and we can ignore you going fwd.
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Actually, Hillary is more honest than Trump by default. Because that dude will legit say ANYTHING.
This might be the dumbest thing I've ever read on this blog. If there's one thing that Trump is lacking, is that, he's too honest!
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Actually, Hillary is more honest than Trump by default. Because that dude will legit say ANYTHING.
This might be the dumbest thing I've ever read on this blog. If there's one thing that Trump is lacking, is that, he's too honest!
Oh, wacky. You're such a sweet, innocent child.
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They're all rough ridin' liars, but Hillary buckles every time the emails are brought up. Also, she's really gross.
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dax, do people listen to you a bit and then just shrug and walk away IRL or can you have conversations?
I didn't realize we were having a direct conversation SD, typically on this message board that requires the "" function.
It seems strange as the mountain of evidence continues to grow at nearly an exponential rate regarding how horrible Hillary is on a factual level i.e. horribleness ingrained and chiseled into the annuals of history as actual implemented and carried forth U.S. policy and actual real life events that occurred while she occupied public office, even on an ex-officio level (as opposed to political stump speeches). That Dems and the like are increasingly angst laden.
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fpreviews.123rf.com%2Fimages%2Fchastity%2Fchastity1202%2Fchastity120200141%2F12675109-Illustration-of-an-uncertain-yellow-emoticon-isolated-on-a-white-background-Stock-Illustration.jpg&hash=0454f2071e9c899fd9e48699c52208b8192380f9)
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Hillary is an artist when it comes to BS. I think her and Trump are about equal when it comes to sincerity, but you can still appreciate the degree of skill she exercises in the craft. Trump is more clumsy, but makes up for it in pizazz.
Both are terrible people.
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All politicians lie their asses off, for sure. But you're missing out if you can't appreciate how Trump is willing to go WAY above and beyond all of them. Hillary isn't going to try to tell you that the sky is not blue, but red. With Trump, you just don't know. He very well could do that.
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Dax just can't stand any criticism of trump. He's just not going to allow it at all. #explaining
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All politicians lie their asses off, for sure. But you're missing out if you can't appreciate how Trump is willing to go WAY above and beyond all of them. Hillary isn't going to try to tell you that the sky is not blue, but red. With Trump, you just don't know. He very well could do that.
Yeah, Trump's lies are so blatantly lies that it's like people don't even care that he's lying. Nobody believes it in the first place, so nobody feels bad about it when they find out it's not true.
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It's a beautiful red sky, believe me, believe me
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People who are pure party liners (even those that try and deny it . . . cough) are going to vote for Hillary, and they're too stupid to know they're voting for war, lies, corruption, U.S. hegemony and stealth racism.
I've never voted for a Republican, except for those stupid ass judges, and likely never will in an election that matters but I'm not voting for her.
I also love how dax acts like he isn't a "pure party liner." I don't understand why being a party liner is a bad thing if that party aligns with your ideals.
Also GMAFB with Gary Johnson, Jesus Christ.
No federal funding for stem cell research.
rough ridin' come on, if you're going to throw your vote away may as well vote for Kermit The Frog
I mean, if you want to federally fund as little as possible, some good things that should be funded somehow are going to get cut. That's a weird place to pick something out
Except for the fact that he's less absolute about funding the following
The Fed
Death Penalty
Needle exchanges
School vouchers (how in the hell can you be for smaller government then advocate providing money for vouchers?)
Alternative energy
"Fatherhood" initiatives, WTF?
Rural health services
Social Security
The issue with libertarians is that they don't actually oppose government involvement, just in the things they deem important. The stem cell opposition reeks of a religious litmus test, he certainly can't justify the opposition under the guise of not wanting to use government funds.
The reason a lot of people are voting for Johnson isn't because of his policies or party, but more to make a third party viable. I will vote for him because I think a two party system is stupid and a viable third party will force compromise and thus allow the government to function.
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I'm really curious about the Trump lies. Any examples? I need to weigh his lies against Hillary's.
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saying taco bowls were a regular menu item at trump grille is a good starting point
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I'm really curious about the Trump lies. Any examples? I need to weigh his lies against Hillary's.
You're trying to compare Coke to Pepsi when the reality of our situation is Coke and cat urine.
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I'm really curious about the Trump lies. Any examples? I need to weigh his lies against Hillary's.
throw a dart, it's got a 92% chance at hitting a trump lie.
http://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/
clinton is at 50%.
http://www.politifact.com/personalities/hillary-clinton/
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johnson is 66% truthful, but with a small sample size.
http://www.politifact.com/personalities/gary-johnson/
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Hillary's spin cycle is so intense people can't tell the lies from the lies anymore.
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I'm really curious about the Trump lies. Any examples? I need to weigh his lies against Hillary's.
I've never heard a statement from trump substantive enough that it it could be characterized as a lie or truth. If he does lie, it's not possible that it's at the frequency, velocity or gravity of Hillary clinton's bullshit. She is the worst of all time.
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The "we can't know trump is worse than Hillary" is probably the best thing ever
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Yeah it is pretty dumb because actual policy and U.S. action on the world stage has proven that to date, Hillary is vastly (and that word alone is an understatement) worse than Trump.
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It's also quite remarkable how unremarkable Hillary was as a Senator once you get past her love of perpetual war.
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Hillary is an artist when it comes to BS. I think her and Trump are about equal when it comes to sincerity, but you can still appreciate the degree of skill she exercises in the craft. Trump is more clumsy, but makes up for it in pizazz.
Both are terrible people.
I don't agree with this at all. I do believe Trump is more sincere but he is clearly a bigger liar. It's pretty easy to confuse sincerity with honesty but they aren't the same thing. Hillary is so politically ambitious that she might be the least sincere person in America. Her lifelong political motivation has led personally to a sham marriage and wild shifts in apparent policy opinions. You don't know what or who she is but she isn't a pathological liar like Trump is. He is pretty comfortable letting people see his true self, I'd imagine that is a byproduct of being rich and powerful and never having to apologize.
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Hillary is an artist when it comes to BS. I think her and Trump are about equal when it comes to sincerity, but you can still appreciate the degree of skill she exercises in the craft. Trump is more clumsy, but makes up for it in pizazz.
Both are terrible people.
I don't agree with this at all. I do believe Trump is more sincere but he is clearly a bigger liar. It's pretty easy to confuse sincerity with honesty but they aren't the same thing. Hillary is so politically ambitious that she might be the least sincere person in America. Her lifelong political motivation has led personally to a sham marriage and wild shifts in apparent policy opinions. You don't know what or who she is but she isn't a pathological liar like Trump is. He is pretty comfortable letting people see his true self, I'd imagine that is a byproduct of being rich and powerful and never having to apologize.
Seems pretty accurate. What is Trump willing to do when his wealth and power aren't enough to insure victory?
Royals aren't gonna win 'em all
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Yeah it is pretty dumb because actual policy and U.S. action on the world stage has proven that to date, Hillary is vastly (and that word alone is an understatement) worse than Trump.
Trump indicated his support for (Iraq) war in a radio interview with shock jock Howard Stern on Sept. 11, 2002
"I can’t believe what our country is doing," Trump said, according to a BuzzFeed transcript. "Gaddafi in Libya is killing thousands of people, nobody knows how bad it is, and we’re sitting around we have soldiers all have the Middle East, and we’re not bringing them in to stop this horrible carnage and that’s what it is: It’s a carnage."
Trump continued.
"You talk about things that have happened in history; this could be one of the worst," Trump said. "Now we should go in, we should stop this guy, which would be very easy and very quick. We could do it surgically, stop him from doing it, and save these lives. This is absolutely nuts. We don’t want to get involved and you’re gonna end up with something like you’ve never seen before."
Where does Trump differ from Hillz on, "U.S. action on the world stage"?
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Who knows, all we have is words, I'm looking at actions
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Who knows, all we have is words, I'm looking at actions
From what I gather, because Trump has never worked as a civil servant he is excluded from any "action."
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Who knows, all we have is words, I'm looking at actions
From what I gather, because Trump has never worked as a civil servant he is excluded from any "action."
Profound.
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Who knows, all we have is words, I'm looking at actions
From what I gather, because Trump has never worked as a civil servant he is excluded from any "action."
Profound.
So, because of his lack of "action" why shouldn't we go off of his words? Does he get a free-pass for everything because he hasn't worked as a civil servant?
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Where is he getting a free pass? What MSM media outlet is giving Trump a "free pass"?
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Where is he getting a free pass? What MSM media outlet is giving Trump a "free pass"?
Because you're critical of Hillz " action on the world stage" when Trump has pretty much endorsed everything she has voted for/supported.
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It didn't sound like Trump was very supportive of the Libyan disaster.
The simple facts are Hillites and related entities have come unhinged over Trumps words. Meanwhile not only has Hillary revealed herself in words, she's revealed herself in action. She's then tried to hyper spin both her words and her actions. In fact, the Bernie leaning media entities have done the best job of pointing out that Hillary has been far worse in actual implemented policy, then any of the words coming out of Trumps mouth. The same outlets have also pointed out the very slow and pillowy soft criticism of Hillary by most MSM outlets, if it even exits at all. Meanwhile the same is jumping all over Trump instantly.
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America should make the president job more attractive. That's what a business would do if a position drew such horrible applicants.
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I was unaware that the Secretary of State made foreign policy. My understanding was she was an advisor and representative of the president in foreign affairs.
#words
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America should make the president job more attractive. That's what a business would do if a position drew such horrible applicants.
The whole natural born citizen thing is severely limiting our applicant pool.
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I was unaware that the Secretary of State made foreign policy. My understanding was she was an advisor and representative of the president in foreign affairs.
#words
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There is absolutely no doubt that Hillary was one of the primary catalysts behind the Libyan debacle, and it is well documented that she and Panetta convinced Obama to hop on board the (ongoing) attempt to oust Assad very early in the process. LOL at you trying to obfuscate and re-direct the reality of Hillary's involvement.
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I was unaware that the Secretary of State made foreign policy. My understanding was she was an advisor and representative of the president in foreign affairs.
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Remarkably, she was able to implement the insane and incoherent foreign policy of the imbecilic administration in a way so reckless and irresponsible as to maximize damage.
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I was unaware that the Secretary of State made foreign policy. My understanding was she was an advisor and representative of the president in foreign affairs.
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There is absolutely no doubt that Hillary was one of the primary catalysts behind the Libyan debacle, and it is well documented that she and Panetta convinced Obama to hop on board the (ongoing) attempt to oust Assad very early in the process. LOL at you trying to obfuscate and re-direct the reality of Hillary's involvement.
So the difference between Clinton's foreign policy and Trump's foreign policy is that Hillary Clinton was able to convince Obama to do things and Trump said the same things to Howard Stern and others?
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I was unaware that the Secretary of State made foreign policy. My understanding was she was an advisor and representative of the president in foreign affairs.
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There is absolutely no doubt that Hillary was one of the primary catalysts behind the Libyan debacle, and it is well documented that she and Panetta convinced Obama to hop on board the (ongoing) attempt to oust Assad very early in the process. LOL at you trying to obfuscate and re-direct the reality of Hillary's involvement.
So the difference between Clinton's foreign policy and Trump's foreign policy is that Hillary Clinton was able to convince Obama to do things and Trump said the same things to Howard Stern and others?
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So an interview on Howard Stern is akin to the will of the National Command Authority of the United States of America? That Howard, man, dude is powerful!
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Let's not confuse how dangerous it is to "indicate" your support for a war months after it began with something as insignificant as directly overseeing the destabilization of the ME and then lying about it.
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It didn't sound like Trump was very supportive of the Libyan disaster.
The simple facts are Hillites and related entities have come unhinged over Trumps words. Meanwhile not only has Hillary revealed herself in words, she's revealed herself in action. She's then tried to hyper spin both her words and her actions. In fact, the Bernie leaning media entities have done the best job of pointing out that Hillary has been far worse in actual implemented policy, then any of the words coming out of Trumps mouth. The same outlets have also pointed out the very slow and pillowy soft criticism of Hillary by most MSM outlets, if it even exits at all. Meanwhile the same is jumping all over Trump instantly.
While I agree with the general premise of this post the fact that Trump continues to lob molotovs has something to do with it.
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I was unaware that the Secretary of State made foreign policy. My understanding was she was an advisor and representative of the president in foreign affairs.
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There is absolutely no doubt that Hillary was one of the primary catalysts behind the Libyan debacle, and it is well documented that she and Panetta convinced Obama to hop on board the (ongoing) attempt to oust Assad very early in the process. LOL at you trying to obfuscate and re-direct the reality of Hillary's involvement.
So the difference between Clinton's foreign policy and Trump's foreign policy is that Hillary Clinton was able to convince Obama to do things and Trump said the same things to Howard Stern and others?
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So an interview on Howard Stern is akin to the will of the National Command Authority of the United States of America? That Howard, man, dude is powerful!
Your distinction between Hillary Clinton's and Donald Trump's foreign policy philosophy seems a distinction without a difference since they are running for president. Their expressed views seem very relevant to how they would conduct themselves once they are in a position to actually exercise executive powers.
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We clearly already know how Hillary would conduct herself because her "views" have already been implemented in the form of national policy. Just because you're mad that by every definition Hillary Clinton is a Neo-Con doesn't change reality. In addition, your absurd attempts to co-mingle campaign rhetoric with actual national policy that has been implemented and executed and make it appear that both are one and the same is absurd.
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We clearly already know how Hillary would conduct herself because her "views" have already been implemented in the form of national policy. Just because you're mad that by every definition Hillary Clinton is a Neo-Con doesn't change reality. In addition, your absurd attempts to co-mingle campaign rhetoric with actual national policy that has been implemented and executed and make it appear that both are one and the same is absurd.
I have stated repeatedly that I won't vote for Hillary. I am not a Hillary fan for many of the reasons you have expressed. I just find it absurd to claim that Donald Trump is has not mirrored nearly perfectly the same positions that we both have critiqued Hillary for--(Iraq, Libya, etc.)
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We clearly already know how Hillary would conduct herself because her "views" have already been implemented in the form of national policy. Just because you're mad that by every definition Hillary Clinton is a Neo-Con doesn't change reality. In addition, your absurd attempts to co-mingle campaign rhetoric with actual national policy that has been implemented and executed and make it appear that both are one and the same is absurd.
I have stated repeatedly that I won't vote for Hillary. I am not a Hillary fan for many of the reasons you have expressed. I just find it absurd to claim that Donald Trump is has not mirrored nearly perfectly the same positions that we both have critiqued Hillary for--(Iraq, Libya, etc.)
I differentiate campaign words from actual policy.
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We clearly already know how Hillary would conduct herself because her "views" have already been implemented in the form of national policy. Just because you're mad that by every definition Hillary Clinton is a Neo-Con doesn't change reality. In addition, your absurd attempts to co-mingle campaign rhetoric with actual national policy that has been implemented and executed and make it appear that both are one and the same is absurd.
Here is what I don't really understand. Hillary is a terrible democratic presidential candidate largely because she is a moderate neocon republican. I would think this election would be a republican win win but alas the partisanship is just to strong.
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We clearly already know how Hillary would conduct herself because her "views" have already been implemented in the form of national policy. Just because you're mad that by every definition Hillary Clinton is a Neo-Con doesn't change reality. In addition, your absurd attempts to co-mingle campaign rhetoric with actual national policy that has been implemented and executed and make it appear that both are one and the same is absurd.
I have stated repeatedly that I won't vote for Hillary. I am not a Hillary fan for many of the reasons you have expressed. I just find it absurd to claim that Donald Trump is has not mirrored nearly perfectly the same positions that we both have critiqued Hillary for--(Iraq, Libya, etc.)
I differentiate campaign words from actual policy.
do you differentiate Senate votes from implementing Obama's policy as SOS?
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We clearly already know how Hillary would conduct herself because her "views" have already been implemented in the form of national policy. Just because you're mad that by every definition Hillary Clinton is a Neo-Con doesn't change reality. In addition, your absurd attempts to co-mingle campaign rhetoric with actual national policy that has been implemented and executed and make it appear that both are one and the same is absurd.
I have stated repeatedly that I won't vote for Hillary. I am not a Hillary fan for many of the reasons you have expressed. I just find it absurd to claim that Donald Trump is has not mirrored nearly perfectly the same positions that we both have critiqued Hillary for--(Iraq, Libya, etc.)
I differentiate campaign words from actual policy.
do you differentiate Senate votes from implementing Obama's policy as SOS?
I have analyzed it that closely. I just know as SOS she was a strong guiding almost authoritative voice on multiple failed adventures in the ME, started us down the path of a new Cold War, and created so much animosity in Central and South America towards the US. They literally left the US out of their latest PACT/Coalition/treaty of cooperation, unprecedented.
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Is this the Dax premise?
Two job applicants:
Applicant A) Experience with the company but has consistently made the wrong choice
Applicant B) No experience with the company but historically agreed with making the same choices
I mean, both applicants suck but if I was hiring and these were the choices I guess I would go with B and hope they weren't as bad. At the same time, you would have to accept Dax's premise to make your choice this way.
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I think it stands to reason that if Donald didn't support Hillary's policies, then he wouldn't have donated money to her campaigns.
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I think it stands to reason that if Donald didn't support Hillary's policies, then he wouldn't have donated money to her campaigns.
Of course you're leaving out the fact that Hill and Bill are two of the biggest pay to play racketeers in US history. What state was Hillary a senator from? What city is the center of Trumps business holdings?
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Is this the Dax premise?
Two job applicants:
Applicant A) Experience with the company but has consistently made the wrong choice
Applicant B) No experience with the company but historically agreed with making the same choices
I mean, both applicants suck but if I was hiring and these were the choices I guess I would go with B and hope they weren't as bad. At the same time, you would have to accept Dax's premise to make your choice this way.
It would kind of be like choosing between Brad Korn and oscar Weber if Korn was more racist.
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Guys, trump "indicated" on Howard Stern that he supported the Iraq war 9 months after it started. How can you not understand that's the exact same as voting as a senator for it to begin and starting WW3 in the ME??? It's the exact same thing, exactly!!!! Gawd, how can you be so naive and obtuse?!?!?
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Is this the Dax premise?
Two job applicants:
Applicant A) Experience with the company but has consistently made the wrong choice
Applicant B) No experience with the company but historically agreed with making the same choices
I mean, both applicants suck but if I was hiring and these were the choices I guess I would go with B and hope they weren't as bad. At the same time, you would have to accept Dax's premise to make your choice this way.
It would kind of be like choosing between Brad Korn and oscar Weber if Korn was more racist.
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Yep, giving an opinion in an interview with Howard Stern . . . exactly the same as leading the nation in creating a more dangerous world.
#liblogic.
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"a course or principle of action adopted or proposed by a government, party, business, or individual"
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President Obama indicated in his SOU that he supports our troops, therefore he sponsored the Iraq war. Bernie sanders wants help for our vets, therefore he supported the Iraq war.
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I can't lie, after being called a party hack many times by Dax and FSD, which I am to certain extent. Watching them blindly defend Trump has been a sight to behold.
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I can't lie, after being called a party hack many times by Dax and FSD, which I am to certain extent. Watching them blindly defend Trump has been a sight to behold.
Somehow, even renocat has been more levelheaded.
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I can't lie, after being called a party hack many times by Dax and FSD, which I am to certain extent. Watching them blindly defend Trump has been a sight to behold.
Somehow, even renocat has been more levelheaded.
It's shown Dax believes words don't have meanings.
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Never said that , but they have less meaning then action. It takes a certain kind of stupid to say campaign trail rhetoric and actual executed US policy are the same thing.
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Never said that , but they have less meaning then action. It takes a certain kind of stupid to say campaign trail rhetoric and actual executed US policy are the same thing.
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This is a fascinating study. So let's see, what Trump says on the campaign trail is exactly what he's going to do in the White House. Yet, Obama has broken so many of his campaign promises the list is too long to go through. Yet when that is brought up, the resident ProgLibs are all like, "well ya see, ya know, umm, that was just the campaign, EVERYBODY knows politicians will say whatever it takes to get elected, particularly when they're trying to appeal to their base . . . ya see."
It seems the "Oh,, but I don't really like Hillary . . . but I will defend her again and again" crowd in residence just hates the fact that the Dem front runner is a huge Neo-Con, but they hate the fact that Trump talks about maybe being a huge Neo-Con even more.
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The libtards will do whatever the Democrat party tells them to do. They do not give a crap how dishonest and hypocritical the positions they take are. They are very stupid people.
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It seems the "Oh,, but I don't really like Hillary . . . but I will defend her again and again" crowd in residence just hates the fact that the Dem front runner is a huge Neo-Con, but they hate the fact that Trump talks about maybe being a huge Neo-Con even more.
I think you are starting to get it! I don't like Hillary's past foreign policy and her stated policy positions during this campaign, I have listened to Trump's stated policy positions and think that once in power his decisions would be worse. Its almost like I'm a voter trying to inform myself about which candidate I would prefer to win.
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for all we know Trump is a muslim-loving dove who wants to take our guns
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This is why we need more of my "teams" idea I posted somewhere in this pit months ago. Candidates should be required to have a lot of their teams lined up as far as who'd be assigned to do what should they win, with those people being under as much scrutiny as the candidates themselves. It'd be a lot easier to gauge how their reigns would go if it's known who'd actually be trying to get crap done. Hell, maybe Trump could prove himself completely qualified if he lined up an executive branch dream team and made it clear he'd just be a lol face of the operation.
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Nice job of ignoring the first part of my post KK. Just admit your pulling the lever for the known commodity that was, is and will always be a war loving Neo-Con.
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I don't think Trump will or could do hardly anything he's talked about.
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Just skimming some threads, we've got some die hard hillbottards:
SkinnyBenny
Lib7 (duh, what a tool)
TreySolid (lol)
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Hillary hits consistent 1 .75% GDP growth she'll blow O out of the water in that regard, but leading indicators are she'll walk into a recession right out of the gate.
Meanwhile foreign governments continue to dump US debt at an accelerating pace.
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I'm going to vote for Hilary. Mostly because she's a woman.
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FSD, I think you meant to say (((treysolid))) ;)
(also, neither the t nor the s are capitalized)
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It seems the "Oh,, but I don't really like Hillary . . . but I will defend her again and again" crowd in residence just hates the fact that the Dem front runner is a huge Neo-Con, but they hate the fact that Trump talks about maybe being a huge Neo-Con even more.
I think you are starting to get it! I don't like Hillary's past foreign policy and her stated policy positions during this campaign, I have listened to Trump's stated policy positions and think that once in power his decisions would be worse. Its almost like I'm a voter trying to inform myself about which candidate I would prefer to win.
I am still trying to figure out exactly what Trump's policy positions are. I haven't heard enough for me to see a plan or course of action. I am not a Hillary defender, but at least she has put a platform out there that thinking people can either support or disagree with.
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I'm going to vote for Hilary. Mostly because she's a woman.
did you vote for Palin?
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It seems the "Oh,, but I don't really like Hillary . . . but I will defend her again and again" crowd in residence just hates the fact that the Dem front runner is a huge Neo-Con, but they hate the fact that Trump talks about maybe being a huge Neo-Con even more.
I think you are starting to get it! I don't like Hillary's past foreign policy and her stated policy positions during this campaign, I have listened to Trump's stated policy positions and think that once in power his decisions would be worse. Its almost like I'm a voter trying to inform myself about which candidate I would prefer to win.
I am still trying to figure out exactly what Trump's policy positions are. I haven't heard enough for me to see a plan or course of action. I am not a Hillary defender, but at least she has put a platform out there that thinking people can either support or disagree with.
They are on his website
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I'm going to vote for Hilary. Mostly because she's a woman.
did you vote for Palin?
No, but she wasn't running for president and I had no issues with her opponent's policies. I don't particularly care for Hillary's stance on foreign policy especially and would normally vote for a third party in this type of election, but the fact that she's a woman plus the risk of Trump getting elected flipped me.
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i'm still hillrodding for now, but if trump keeps rough ridin' over his campaign to the point where it's no longer nationally competitive, i'll hop onto johnson and ride him to the finish.
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I'm going to vote for Hilary. Mostly because she's a woman.
you said you were voting for stein earlier, who is also a woman, so i'm not sure if i believe that switching to hillrod is based on her sex.
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I'm going to vote for Hilary. Mostly because she's a woman.
you said you were voting for stein earlier, who is also a woman, so i'm not sure if i believe that switching to hillrod is based on her sex.
Trump definitely had a big impact. Plus she has a chance, which also makes a difference relative to Stein.
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Adding ChiCat as a hillbottard
Also michigancat (probably already added)
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I'll be voting Hillary for three reasons only. 1. Trump as president scares me 2. Hillary is a woman. 3. Someday I'd like to see KS blue.
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It saddens me that that is why I will be voting for someone.
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It saddens me that that is why I will be voting for someone.
Which part of your reason saddens you the most?
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The first one.
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I don't like the idea of voting against someone as to voting for someone. But this is where we are.
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I'm voting for someone and will feel great about it.
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#conscience
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I'll feel ok about voting for Johnson. I certainly wish there were someone better to vote for, but he's the best we've got.
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Who do I call to tell them I'm voting for Johnson so he can poll better
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Who do I call to tell them I'm voting for Johnson so he can poll better
You have to get a landline telephone and wait for them to call you.
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Maybe I can seek out some online polling
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As the resident goEMAW moderate, I am announcing that I am endorsing Hillary for president.
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Went to a client dinner, they're a successful wealth management firm.
They're sell, sell, sell on both Hil and Trump.
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I bet them badmouthing trump made you super angry
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I bet them badmouthing trump made you super angry
Nah, you're a bitchy little Hillbot lately tho
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:ROFL:
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meltdownmeltdownmeltdownmeltdownmeltdownmeltdownmeltdown
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I bet them badmouthing trump made you super angry
Nah, you're a bitchy little Hillbot lately tho
He doesn't even research. Just listens to rush/Glenn all day and reacts in anger. :frown:
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It saddens me that that is why I will be voting for someone.
Nobody gives a crap what you think. Nobody.
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I don't listen to Glen beck
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i'm voting for hillary because she is a moderate republican.
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i'm voting for hillary because she is a moderate republican.
I can support moderate republicanism. It was good for the state of Kansas before Sam messed it up.
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It saddens me that that is why I will be voting for someone.
Nobody gives a crap what you think. Nobody.
Interesting take. It's wrong, but it's an interesting take.
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It saddens me that that is why I will be voting for someone.
Nobody gives a crap what you think. Nobody.
Ok Jamie
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It saddens me that that is why I will be voting for someone.
Nobody gives a crap what you think. Nobody.
I laughed when I read this response. It sounds exactly like a Trump response in a debate. If you can't argue or make a clear point, just say something rude and unrelated. Seems like limited ability to argue rationally.
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I already know people care deeply about what I think, no need to reinforce that. Thx
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Ok Jamie
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Adding known psychopath and delsuional moron, bmwjhawk