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General Discussion => The New Joe Montgomery Birther Pit => Topic started by: _33 on January 05, 2016, 02:04:10 PM
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What? You think that certain way about that subject?! You're an idiot! :curse:
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If only that certain person/party would get elected then we would see some real change and improvement. :lol:
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If only that certain person/party would get elected then we would see some real change and improvement. :lol:
I don't think anyone posting here believes that
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If only that certain person/party would get elected then we would see some real change and improvement. :lol:
I don't think anyone posting here believes that
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What? You don't believe in man-made climate change?! :curse:
What? You do believe in man-made climate change?! :curse:
Should we agree to disagree and accept the fact that both viewpoints have at least some validity? NOPE! TIME TO DEBATE AND GET REALLY MAD!!! :curse:
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Politics: Making people mad about stuff that is totally and completely meaningless for over 1 million years.
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:emawkid:
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"Hey I've got a great idea. Let's invest a ton of time, energy and emotion into thinking and caring about politics because in the end we will see a very good return on our investment."
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it's the original fantasy football
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33 is easily the best poster on this entire blogsite
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(Some) Good points in this thread.
Gonna win 'em all! (using Tapatalk)
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stupid thread :jerk:
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Climate change denier is not something I expected 33 to be.
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Climate change denier is not something I expected 33 to be.
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Politics is like a big turd. If it's your turd it's a good.ol turd. IF NOT, it ugly and stinks like hell.
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leave it to Reno and poop references to really bring the point home
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My favorites:
Candidate once supported something that seems similar to the oppositions viewpoint? He must be a liar and is obviously not truly a "political viewpoint".
Candidate changed their mind because data over time allowed them to see that they were previously wrong? That candidate is obviously impossible to trust. You must always know from the get go the answers to everything. You are not allowed to have an evolving opinion.
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"We should be discussing real issues, real solutions that can only be found by working together. Not name calling, labeling, demeaning each other with tweets and gotcha headlines on social media." Yep, if we want to fix politics in this country we need to start by having a lot of serious discussions and debates on Facebook.
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Had lunch with my aunt today, and she asked who I was voting for. I said, "Not Trump. Who are you voting for?" She said, "Not Hillary."
Also she proceeded to tell me (I already knew) that my mom would vote for Trump (she's a conservative Christian). So I told her to please remind my mom that Trump talks about his penis size in national televised settings, and to ask her if that is the man she wants to represent her.
Can't wait to hear how their conversation went. :lol:
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Little Marco was the one that brought up the size of Donald's penis, Trump simply defended his johnson.
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I like how the media holds what the candidates say against them.
Be real, both Drumpf and Clitler are being fed what to say by a team of ten consultants.
Also, the biggest trick Drumpf ever pulled was convincing the world he ran his own twitter account. (also a room of ten or so consultants)
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Well yea, that's what every major decisionmaker does. The good ones are capable of weeding out the super dumbass suggestions, though.
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Well yea, that's what every major decisionmaker does. The good ones are capable of weeding out the super dumbass suggestions, though.
Or is the data coming up "say dumbass things, get elected" this year? Because neither candidate seems to be saying hard truths followed up by detailed plans. Mostly just media byte / headline grabbing phrases. Followed up by repeated rhetoric and calculated mudslinging that hilariously all seems to be aimed to please the voters they already have in their pocket.
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My point is that politicians are very much accountable for what they say, even if they didn't write it.
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My favorites:
Candidate once supported something that seems similar to the oppositions viewpoint? He must be a liar and is obviously not truly a "political viewpoint".
Candidate changed their mind because data over time allowed them to see that they were previously wrong? That candidate is obviously impossible to trust. You must always know from the get go the answers to everything. You are not allowed to have an evolving opinion.
This alone is the main reason GWB was able to beat John Kerry, because conservatives succeeded in painting him a flip-flopper. Flip-flopping doesn't seem to matter much to them now tho :excited:
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I was in deep meditation, and this thread popped into my head, as well as the toxicity of arguing politics over the internet and following news in general. Always thought to leave, but was hard with so much winning. There was so much trolling to look forward to as well - having momentum, only part 1/5 of email hacks, debates, potential Trump win. But it's time. I'll always remember the time I completely destroyed Kat Kid when he tried to get all smarty pants. My last word will be Clitler.
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MOAT-O? :frown:
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pretty awesome last word tho :thumbs:
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Is being a quitter very alpha?
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Is being a quitter very alpha?
quitler
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https://twitter.com/paulkrugman/status/760833438744272896
https://twitter.com/paulkrugman/status/760833957252464640
https://twitter.com/paulkrugman/status/760834426624442368
https://twitter.com/paulkrugman/status/760835087730630656
https://twitter.com/paulkrugman/status/760835435715178496
https://twitter.com/paulkrugman/status/760835831154212864
https://twitter.com/paulkrugman/status/760836091897405440
https://twitter.com/paulkrugman/status/760836252975370240
https://twitter.com/paulkrugman/status/760836557649633280
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(https://scontent.fmci1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13900245_10105554957442563_4393673935424960148_n.jpg?oh=110ffd9629db3c3e9b842481f20056a5&oe=585B8B37)
Here is a map showing which states that are so partisan that either Candidate A's solid supporters can defeat Candidate B on their own, or don't stand a chance at all.
So basically, in Kansas, it doesn't matter so you can go ahead and vote 3rd party to make your statement.
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TF is NE2 & ME2? :confused:
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Voting districts?
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Well not voting districts probably, but parts of the state that different from the rest.
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Yea, some states divide electoral votes by districts instead of just being a winner take all state (much better idea, IMO). Those particular districts must just happen to be split pretty evenly.
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If there is one thing we know for sure it's that this election is very important. Lots of things will change for the worse if one certain person gets elected over another certain person. So make sure you vote because this is important. Things will not basically stay exactly the same in your day to day life regardless of who the president is. A lot is at stake. And there is definitely not basically nothing at stake.
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the map says yes, utahns. smdh @ you.
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Hmmmmm. Judging from the news and my social media feed I'm gathering that a lot of people believe that their rights and freedoms as an American depend on who the President is. I wonder why. Maybe they don't know how our democratic republic works? Maybe just stupid/dumb? Interesting and perplexing.
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People like to have someone to be mad at.
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I blame the teachers
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I blame the teachers
Don't forget the parents too!
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Can confirm _33
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33 is looking pretty dumb these days.
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Is this about the dogs in the office thing?
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no, it was a reference to how stupid your posts in this thread are.
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Don't listen to sys. He's just upset about the whole Hillary thing.
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no, it was a reference to how stupid your posts in this thread are.
Only something as stupid and pointlessly divisive as politics could turn sys against one of his best bbs buds (_33). F you politics.
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i love you as a poster and human, but i have to maintain my reputation for fairness.
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https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2017/03/how-to-build-an-autocracy/513872/
long, but well worth the time.
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When is long not worth it?
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So I've been thinking for the last 2 or 3 minutes...the reason politics and politicians are so terrible is because we let people who want to be politicians run for political office. And people who want to be politicians are pathetic, lying scumbags who suck at everything. So the answer is to just nominate people from the real world and they have to serve in office for 2-4 years depending on the office. They would serve reluctantly, like jury duty, but they wouldn't be awful, horrible people with pathetic political ambitions like we have now. What say you?
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I've always thought that's the way it was intended to be.
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So I've been thinking for the last 2 or 3 minutes...the reason politics and politicians are so terrible is because we let people who want to be politicians run for political office. And people who want to be politicians are pathetic, lying scumbags who suck at everything. So the answer is to just nominate people from the real world and they have to serve in office for 2-4 years depending on the office. They would serve reluctantly, like jury duty, but they wouldn't be awful, horrible people with pathetic political ambitions like we have now. What say you?
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Well, taking away freedoms is a pretty simple way to make things run more smoothly. So yea, it would probably work better than what we have now.
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LOL I love when people believe that them caring about politics is somehow a virtue that helps people.
http://www.scarymommy.com/staying-out-not-caring-politics-is-privilege/
Hey guess what, your caring about politics doesn't do crap to help any "marginalized" groups in this country. Oh you started a debate on facebook about politics? Congrats you helped zero refugees. Oh you called your senator once a day for a week straight? Congrats that didn't do crap to help anyone and took you a grand total of about 1 minute a day. Oh you wrote a virtue signaling mommyblog about how much you care about politics? I'm sure a letter from the transgender community is in the mail thanking you for your hard work and sacrifice on their behalf.
The only reason people write something like this is to make themselves feel better about not actually doing anything to help anyone in real life.
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this needs to go in the mommyblog thread
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Having the time/resources to mommyblog is privilege.
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I just love this part so much.
I could have chosen not to care because the ability to homeschool puts me in a privileged group of people. We can live on an income and a half (my job is flexible), and I have an advanced degree that gives me the skills to educate my children. We have an internet connection. My partner is engaged and hands-on with our kids. We have access to a stellar library, and the extra cash to buy needed books. The list goes on and on. But I saw through my privilege. Instead of throwing up my hands and telling everyone to stop annoying me with all their caring for social justice, I called both of my senators every day for a week and a half. We have to make some Americans’ problem every American’s problem.
I SAW THROUGH MY PRIVILEGE, I MADE A COUPLE POINTLESS PHONE CALLS, I'M A GOOD PERSON AND I HELP PEOPLE.
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Oh you're husband has a great job, you have an advanced degree, a giant library, and stacks of cash, and the way you choose to help is by mommyblogging about how much you care about politics? The "marginalized" in society are forever indebted to you.
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Oh you're husband has a great job, you have an advanced degree, a giant library, and stacks of cash, and the way you choose to help is by mommyblogging about how much you care about politics? The "marginalized" in society are forever indebted to you.
Should people only help in the best way or is it ok to help in some way?
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Calling your senator is probably more productive than actually voting
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Every vote matters, lib! Well, for those of us in swing states it does.
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The whole idea of home schooling is just so weird to me.
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Oh you're husband has a great job, you have an advanced degree, a giant library, and stacks of cash, and the way you choose to help is by mommyblogging about how much you care about politics? The "marginalized" in society are forever indebted to you.
Hey _33, does it make you feel better as a person to denigrate mommybloggers for trying to make the world a better place? What are you doing to positively contribute to society and the future?
But yeah, homeschooling :barf:
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Calling your senator is probably more productive than actually voting
making powerful people uncomfortable enough to change their minds usually requires more than voting.
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I mean, come on guys. Can you not just make fun of this woman with me? Look at that part I quoted above, it's hilarious! Do you guys not think it's hilarious?
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It's definitely hilarious, _33. I really love the "look at me'rs, I care about diversity, and issues that I have no idea what i'm talking about on". Kinda like how lib loves to call everyone racist and be the "see, look at me guys, i'm white, but I understand black ppl, so i'm hip and cool. Black ppl, please like me!" kinda ppl.
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That mommy bloggers twitter page is super liberal. Shocking!
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She's doing slightly more than the Facebook profile picture frames.
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Calling your senator is probably more productive than actually voting
making powerful people uncomfortable enough to change their minds usually requires more than voting.
Agree with lib. Obviously voting is essential to get the best candidate in office, but even if you accomplish that, calling is probably the best way for your candidate to gauge how the actual voters feel about something.
All that said, people that go out of their way to publicize themselves doing decent things are my least favorite type of people.
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P.S. I still must applaud this particular mommy blogger for highlighting how difficult it is for us successful white people to overcome our privilege. It is a huge burden and warrants recognition when one of us is able to overcome it and do something for someone else.
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Not every white person has her privilege and is idiotic to think so.
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:lol: Are Senators of the Senate Judiciary Committee really asking a nominee to the supreme court about high school yearbook entries? :lol:
Politics. :lol:
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"WHAT DOES BOOF MEAN? ANSWER ME." :lol:
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still the absolute stupidest.
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still the absolute stupidest.
Finally sys agrees with me about the nature of politics.
Haha gotcha. :lol:
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People who thought they knew what boofing meant really had to let it sink in for a moment, today...
Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
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Chanting :lol:
"Hey we care about something political, how should we inform people of our views? I know let's yell it rhythmically over and over and over again!" :lol:
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If there is one thing we know for sure it's that this election is very important. Lots of things will change for the worse if one certain person gets elected over another certain person. So make sure you vote because this is important. Things will not basically stay exactly the same in your day to day life regardless of who the president is. A lot is at stake. And there is definitely not basically nothing at stake.
just want to circle back here @_33 and see if you still feel the same? idk
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I can very much see 33 as a "the capitol siege was overblown by the media" type.
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I can very much see 33 as a "the capitol siege was overblown by the media" type.
what about the hundreds of orphaned children and however many of the 400k dead you want to blame trump for? also overblown?
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as long as we have lobbyists and career politicians nothing will change other than the narratives
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I still believe a lot of people give WAY TOO MUCH mental and emotional headspace to who the president is. I would like to hear how people's lives changed over the last 4 years due to the policies of Trump and his administration. I'm genuinely curious.
Probably people vulnerable to immigration laws have the most at stake?
Therefore, because so many people are so emotionally invested I think it becomes more important for the president to be a unifier. Or at the very least not to be actively inflammatory.
In many people's minds the differing political parties have gone from simply a difference in opinion regarding governmental policy to good vs evil. That's bad.
So to sum up, no I don't think who POTUS is tangibly changes the lives of a vast majority of Americans. HOWEVER, Trump exposed the emotional fragility on both sides of the spectrum, mostly because he was so emotionally fragile himself. He was unique in that he was actively inflammatory.
His policy didn't change many lives but his rhetoric did. So because of the current condition of America I do think it's important to elect peace makers, unifiers, and others who are actively ANTI inflammatory.
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I agreed with your tweet _33. Far too much emotional investment in who is the president on both sides.
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I still believe a lot of people give WAY TOO MUCH mental and emotional headspace to who the president is. I would like to hear how people's lives changed over the last 4 years due to the policies of Trump and his administration. I'm genuinely curious.
I guess the first thing that springs to mind is the like 200k + people who died of COVID beyond initial projections due to Trump’s failure to mobilize any kind of national response?
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The cop who got murdered by a mob is pretty directly attributable to our ex president.
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People in service industries are taking it pretty hard due to COVID still not being under control and a failure to pressure Congress to do something about it.
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That one guy tazed his nuts off trying to carry out Trump’s demands and his family will have to deny it to their dying breath.
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Our farmers couldn’t sell a lot of their products for a while for completely pointless reasons.
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Any world leaders who decide to torture children can now point to America as an example.
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A lot of people on my facebook feed are very worried that gas prices will go up under Biden, costing them an extra $10-$20 per month.
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I'm from the government and I'm here to help!
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People pretty much all over the country are very comfortable openly discriminating against minorities currently.
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If there is one thing we know for sure it's that this election is very important. Lots of things will change for the worse if one certain person gets elected over another certain person. So make sure you vote because this is important. Things will not basically stay exactly the same in your day to day life regardless of who the president is. A lot is at stake. And there is definitely not basically nothing at stake.
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I still believe a lot of people give WAY TOO MUCH mental and emotional headspace to who the president is. I would like to hear how people's lives changed over the last 4 years due to the policies of Trump and his administration. I'm genuinely curious.
Probably people vulnerable to immigration laws have the most at stake?
Therefore, because so many people are so emotionally invested I think it becomes more important for the president to be a unifier. Or at the very least not to be actively inflammatory.
In many people's minds the differing political parties have gone from simply a difference in opinion regarding governmental policy to good vs evil. That's bad.
So to sum up, no I don't think who POTUS is tangibly changes the lives of a vast majority of Americans. HOWEVER, Trump exposed the emotional fragility on both sides of the spectrum, mostly because he was so emotionally fragile himself. He was unique in that he was actively inflammatory.
His policy didn't change many lives but his rhetoric did. So because of the current condition of America I do think it's important to elect peace makers, unifiers, and others who are actively ANTI inflammatory.
Hmm, maybe it does matter who is president and elections actually are important. I'm glad 33 has learned how stupid this thread is.
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A decent number of teenagers who only remember living in America and speak only English have been contingency planning the last few years what they will do when they get deported.
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His policy didn't change many lives but his rhetoric did.
look at this
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Of course I've learned. I stand firm that the policies of the president have little impact but I will concede that I underestimated the overwhelming response of the emotionally unstable masses on both sides and Trumps willingness to instigate and inflame. From now on that response must be considered on election day.
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catastrophe, you might not have understood (or read?) my post.
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Yes catastrophe, it was obviously trump's rhetoric that caused a complete federal failure with covid and not his policy of actively doing absolutely nothing.
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I haven't seen national numbers if there are any, but locally there were a lot more ICE raids.
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catastrophe, you might not have understood (or read?) my post.
Those were all in response to your question about how Trump’s policies affected people’s lives.
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Except the guy who lit up his crank I guess.
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i dunno its kinda weird...like if you would have told me 7 years ago (like far enough back that Trump's name was not circulating as a presidential candidate) that the following would sentence would be accurate:
The year is 2021. The mob that stormed the capitol failed in changing the outcome of the election. 5 dead, including one guy who had a heart attack after tazing his own sack. The My Pillow guy is meeting with the president in the white house to present definitive proof that the election was stolen.
I think even I would have been like "wait wut?"
The way that this last administration has most greatly impacted my daily life is now i realize how many people i know (sadly this includes friends and family) get their news and facts from like, shitpost memes on facebook.
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That one guy tazed his nuts off trying to carry out Trump’s demands and his family will have to deny it to their dying breath.
Yeah, this dude's friend to death sack is completely on trump's head
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Organized white supremacy and anti-semitism have unquestionably increased as a direct result of the trump presidency, that's a statement of verified fact. So while I have more money than I've ever had, I have significantly less peace of mind. I addressed this exact thing two years ago, possibly in this very thread, it's gotten worse, not better.