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Title: It's Leavitt
Post by: pissclams on December 25, 2015, 08:14:16 PM
I've got an A+ source from Vanier saying that our HCIW is none other than Jim "Jimmy" Leavitt.
Welcome aboard, Coach!

I know this isn't the sexiest hire we could have made but he's a good man and nobody works harder.
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: slackcat on December 25, 2015, 08:21:05 PM
Welcome to the Framework Jim!!!!! :excited:
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: The Big Train on December 25, 2015, 08:25:01 PM
:excited:
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: wetwillie on December 25, 2015, 08:53:51 PM
SLTH
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: Pete on December 25, 2015, 09:01:24 PM
Some bells cannot be unwrung, but what about the learning disability (poor auditory memory) that left him functionally illiterate and, until recently, able to read only at second-grade level?

By now everyone has heard the story about how he built USF from scratch and that they used trailers as offices, but no one talks about how those trailers were from special education classrooms that he attended classes in while in high school.  He totes them along with him wherever he goes.  This is hearsay of course, but at some point you can't deny the fact that people say things for some good reasons sometimes.  Like it or not.

Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: manpow5 on December 25, 2015, 09:07:27 PM
Could they be bringing Leavitt and Veny in and whomever does better gets the job?
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: 'taterblast on December 14, 2016, 04:25:58 PM
https://twitter.com/zach_barnett/status/809160230630260736
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: pissclams on December 14, 2016, 04:28:29 PM
for everyone out there around the bbs globe who is wondering, i dropped my a+ source from my list of sources after this BS
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: everyone shut up on December 14, 2016, 04:32:54 PM
for everyone out there around the bbs globe who is wondering, i dropped my a+ source from my list of sources after this BS
good call. do you maybe have an a- source to fall back on? perhaps someone with some venables news?
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: steve dave on December 29, 2016, 04:58:24 PM
http://footballscoop.com/The-Scoop/
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 29, 2016, 05:00:59 PM
 :excited:
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: kso_FAN on December 29, 2016, 05:01:12 PM
http://footballscoop.com/The-Scoop/

Love it or Leavitt.
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: Pete on December 29, 2016, 05:35:30 PM
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Oregon: Defensive coordinator Jim Leavitt will make $1.15 million per year in a four year contract reports Andrew Greif of the Oregonian. No current Pac-12 assistants make over $1 million per year. Leavitt would owe Oregon a small buyout should he leave to accept any position other than as head coach at Kansas State which he could freely leave for.

I mean, there HAS to be a somewhat serious conversation going between Levitt and KSU in order for HIGHEST PAID COORDINATOR IN THE ENTIRE PAC-12 to bother to negotiate a buyout exception for only one school.  Right?!?

I mean c'mon.  There is a "thing" in place.  There has to be. 
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: wetwillie on December 29, 2016, 05:41:15 PM
eff he is so old.  Whatever i guess. 
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: EMAWzifried on December 29, 2016, 05:44:14 PM
How much does Leavitt not jumping to K-State at the end of Snyder I? But we would get a better coach now, who maybe wouldn't have late season letdowns when he team lost to lesser opponents.
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: michigancat on December 29, 2016, 05:48:23 PM
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Wake Forest: Wake Forest University has an opening for a graduate assistant position working with the offensive line. The position will begin in the Spring of 2017 with the start date TBD. Experience with the offensive line is preferred. If interested, email Warren Ruggiero at [email protected].

wow, had no idea another Prince assistant was a P5 coordinator. They're everywhere!
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: michigancat on December 29, 2016, 05:49:26 PM
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Before Bowling Green, Ruggiero was the quarterback coach at Kansas State and coached Josh Freeman to a first round selection in the 2009 NFL Draft. He also mentored Collin Klein who went on to be a finalist for the Heisman Trophy.

:D
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: Pete on December 29, 2016, 06:04:09 PM
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Before Bowling Green, Ruggiero was the quarterback coach at Kansas State and coached Josh Freeman to a first round selection in the 2009 NFL Draft. He also mentored Collin Klein who went on to be a finalist for the Heisman Trophy.

:D

I vividly remember Ron Prince calling him the "quarterback whisperer."
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: Stupid Fitz on December 29, 2016, 06:07:11 PM
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Oregon: Defensive coordinator Jim Leavitt will make $1.15 million per year in a four year contract reports Andrew Greif of the Oregonian. No current Pac-12 assistants make over $1 million per year. Leavitt would owe Oregon a small buyout should he leave to accept any position other than as head coach at Kansas State which he could freely leave for.

I mean, there HAS to be a somewhat serious conversation going between Levitt and KSU in order for HIGHEST PAID COORDINATOR IN THE ENTIRE PAC-12 to bother to negotiate a buyout exception for only one school.  Right?!?

I mean c'mon.  There is a "thing" in place.  There has to be.
You would think so. If not, he kind of looks like a dumbass for this getting out. I have a clause in my contract that says I can leave to be CEO of Apple.
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: kso_FAN on December 29, 2016, 06:08:24 PM
I'm kind of surprised Oregon hired him given his age, Snyder's age, and this clause in the contract.
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: GoodForAnother on December 29, 2016, 06:32:51 PM
60 is the new 40
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: everyone shut up on December 29, 2016, 06:54:11 PM
i still want venzy
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: BackPayne on December 29, 2016, 06:55:29 PM
Would he actually be a good get?  I know nothing about him.
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: Pete on December 29, 2016, 06:57:38 PM
I'm kind of surprised Oregon hired him given his age, Snyder's age, and this clause in the contract.

This is a significant and excellent way of looking at this, Fan.  That really IS a head scratcher on the part of Oregon.   OK, I changed my mind. Tthis makes me think the likelihood of Leavitt is low.
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: OK_Cat on December 29, 2016, 07:19:17 PM
I find it hard to believe that this is a coincidence. Welcome aboard, new overlord Jim Leavitt


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Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: GoodForAnother on December 29, 2016, 07:19:51 PM
Would he actually be a good get?  I know nothing about him.

After what he did at CU I'm good with it. I'd rather have Venzy but if not he's a good hire.
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: Skipper44 on December 29, 2016, 07:25:15 PM
Leavitt:Snyder as Roy:Dean

So maybe it's a "I will come if you call" thing :dunno:
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: EMAWzifried on December 29, 2016, 07:28:23 PM
I'm kind of surprised Oregon hired him given his age, Snyder's age, and this clause in the contract.

This is a significant and excellent way of looking at this, Fan.  That really IS a head scratcher on the part of Oregon.   OK, I changed my mind. Tthis makes me think the likelihood of Leavitt is low.

Oregon's new offensive-minded coaching staff needs an infusion of defensive knowledge. The thinking might be that $1.5 million/year isn't too steep a price for that if he's out of there in a year or two but lets the new staff get established.  :dunno:
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: Skipper44 on December 29, 2016, 07:41:30 PM
It's Phil's money - there is no price too steep
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: Pete on December 29, 2016, 07:45:10 PM
I'm kind of surprised Oregon hired him given his age, Snyder's age, and this clause in the contract.

This is a significant and excellent way of looking at this, Fan.  That really IS a head scratcher on the part of Oregon.   OK, I changed my mind. Tthis makes me think the likelihood of Leavitt is low.

Oregon's new offensive-minded coaching staff needs an infusion of defensive knowledge. The thinking might be that $1.5 million/year isn't too steep a price for that if he's out of there in a year or two but lets the new staff get established.  :dunno:

Fair enough, and the Phil Knight point by Skipper is good as well.

Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: GoodForAnother on December 29, 2016, 08:03:58 PM
I'm kind of surprised Oregon hired him given his age, Snyder's age, and this clause in the contract.

This is a significant and excellent way of looking at this, Fan.  That really IS a head scratcher on the part of Oregon.   OK, I changed my mind. Tthis makes me think the likelihood of Leavitt is low.

Oregon's new offensive-minded coaching staff needs an infusion of defensive knowledge. The thinking might be that $1.5 million/year isn't too steep a price for that if he's out of there in a year or two but lets the new staff get established.  :dunno:

*1.15 million

No current Pac-12 assistants make over $1 million per year.

What a loser town conference, geez
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: manpow5 on December 29, 2016, 08:23:02 PM
http://www.oregonlive.com/ducks/index.ssf/2016/12/jim_leavitt_new_oregon_ducks_d.html#incart_river_mobileshort_index

"However, Leavitt does have a very specific loophole in his buyout clause: He won't be required to pay anything "should he voluntarily terminate this agreement to become the head football coach at Kansas State University."
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: OK_Cat on December 29, 2016, 08:25:08 PM
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Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: manpow5 on December 29, 2016, 08:30:23 PM
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Where was it posted first?
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: OK_Cat on December 29, 2016, 08:31:48 PM
In this thread, 3 hours ago


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Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: manpow5 on December 29, 2016, 08:35:08 PM
In this thread, 3 hours ago


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Fair enough..
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: KITNfury on December 29, 2016, 09:12:39 PM
I can understand Leavitt not being some fans' first choice but in no way would that be a bad choice
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: Cire on December 29, 2016, 09:33:16 PM
Leavitt would be good in the sense that he could be the guy after the guy and we probably wouldn't be complete garbage.


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Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: PIPE on December 29, 2016, 09:53:14 PM
I want some youth in our coaches damnit!!
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: KITNfury on December 29, 2016, 09:56:19 PM
Leavitt would be good in the sense that he could be the guy after the guy and we probably wouldn't be complete garbage.


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I think Leavitt could pretty regularly have us at 7-9 wins. I would take anyone that could continue winning here not named Snyder. Just to shake the stigma that only a freak like Snyder can win here.
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: Pete on December 30, 2016, 12:56:13 AM
Leavitt would be good in the sense that he could be the guy after the guy and we probably wouldn't be complete garbage.


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I think Leavitt could pretty regularly have us at 7-9 wins. I would take anyone that could continue winning here not named Snyder. Just to shake the stigma that only a freak like Snyder can win here.

I feel the same way.
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: The Big Train on December 30, 2016, 12:59:43 AM
You should do it, Pete.
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: slackcat on December 30, 2016, 04:39:59 AM
I believe Leavitt could assemble a good staff, would take.
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: deputy dawg on December 30, 2016, 08:28:19 AM
I believe Leavitt could assemble a good staff, would take.

This.  Leavitt has demonstrated ability to field great defenses, and he has solid Florida recruiting ties.  If he came and hired a good OC, a Leavitt hire, in my books, would be a home run.  The question is, would Currie hire someone that lied to an investigator like 10 years ago (reason for being dismissed from USF).
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: ChiComCat on December 30, 2016, 08:44:11 AM
Leavitt seems to have had conversations with someone about KSU but who knows if that person is Snyder or Currie.  If it was Snyder, he just put pressure on Currie to either hire him or find someone better.  Leavitt has a lot of experience as a HC which seems to be a high priority on past Currie lists.  That said, I don't think pressuring Currie is a winning formula.  Between his stubbornness on Leti Romero and apparent value on "getting along" with the coaches, that would be a tough way to start a relationship.

On the plus side, it feels pretty big time for any coach to put an out in a contract that is specific to K-State.
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: wetwillie on December 30, 2016, 08:49:45 AM
Didn't Currie allegedly reject Bill hiring him as an assistant a few years back? 
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: michigancat on December 30, 2016, 08:54:34 AM
Leavitt is a less successful version of oscar Weber who grabbed a player by the throat and slapped him during halftime of a game.

But yeah, not bad! :flush:
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: WildcatNkilt on December 30, 2016, 08:55:26 AM
Leavitt seems to have had conversations with someone about KSU but who knows if that person is Snyder or Currie.  If it was Snyder, he just put pressure on Currie to either hire him or find someone better.  Leavitt has a lot of experience as a HC which seems to be a high priority on past Currie lists.  That said, I don't think pressuring Currie is a winning formula.  Between his stubbornness on Leti Romero and apparent value on "getting along" with the coaches, that would be a tough way to start a relationship.

On the plus side, it feels pretty big time for any coach to put an out in a contract that is specific to K-State.

I don't want to defend Currie by any means, but I'm curious how and if he will change now that we have a new Prez.  Seeing how Schultz has responded to situations at Washington St. leads me to believe that he may have had influence on how Currie responded to circumstances we are all familiar with.  I hope Myers wants to win at any/all costs. 
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: chum1 on December 30, 2016, 09:03:56 AM
Snyder would be thrilled to have a guy who would keep Sean & all his geriatric buds on staff. Pretty solid situation for Leavitt to walk into, too.
Title: It's Leavitt
Post by: kso_FAN on December 30, 2016, 09:08:17 AM
Leavitt is a less successful version of oscar Weber who grabbed a player by the throat and slapped him during halftime of a game.

But yeah, not bad! :flush:

When he became a head coach, he inherited a program from a future hall of famer stacked with talent?

I guess I missed that.

But yeah, I don't like the slapping a player thing.
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: michigancat on December 30, 2016, 09:13:24 AM


Leavitt is a less successful version of oscar Weber who grabbed a player by the throat and slapped him during halftime of a game.

But yeah, not bad! :flush:

When he became a head coach, he inherited a program from a future hall of famer stacked with talent?

I guess I missed that.

But yeah, I don't like the slapping a player thing.

Southern Illinois wasn't exactly a great program before oscar arrived but he won two conference titles there. Did Leavitt win a conference title?
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: kso_FAN on December 30, 2016, 09:19:26 AM
Southern Illinois was a mid major with tradition before oscar arrived. oscar is just a poor comparison for Leavitt IMO.

I'm not saying that there aren't questions based on what he did at South Florida because he never did more than have okay seasons in the Big East, but he did build the program from scratch and was a solid coach there.
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: Stupid Fitz on December 30, 2016, 09:20:30 AM
Leavitt would be good in the sense that he could be the guy after the guy and we probably wouldn't be complete garbage.


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I think Leavitt could pretty regularly have us at 7-9 wins. I would take anyone that could continue winning here not named Snyder. Just to shake the stigma that only a freak like Snyder can win here.

I feel the same way.

Me too.  Case in point was Keitz the other day saying the players were too jacked in the bowl game and didn't play the "K-State way".  These rough ridin' dumbasses are going to pick apart every thing the new coach does because "Coach Snyder would have never let that happen".  Leavitt would be a good bridge to hopefully getting someone young and talented down the road IMO.  Plus, I bet that kid deserved to get smacked.  Plus, plus, JL is buds with Jim Harbaugh, maybe he will steer some UM grade rejects our way.   :Woot:
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: wetwillie on December 30, 2016, 09:22:40 AM
dont let OG cRusty hijack this thread with some oscar weber mind eff.   
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: michigancat on December 30, 2016, 09:24:43 AM
Southern Illinois was a mid major with tradition before oscar arrived. oscar is just a poor comparison for Leavitt IMO.

I'm not saying that there aren't questions based on what he did at South Florida because he never did more than have okay seasons in the Big East, but he did build the program from scratch and was a solid coach there.
They are comparable in they were fired from their last head coaching job and KSU shouldn't hire them.
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: sonofdaxjones on December 30, 2016, 09:30:27 AM
Well look at cRusty standin firm.

Who do you want cRusty?   Venzy?

I mean, I'd like Venzy as well, but Venzy has been a DC/Co-DC for what?   Nearly twenty years now?   Yet all I've ever heard is that he's never been a serious candidate for any head coaching job, anywhere.    Snyder, for example, was only an OC for 9 years, before becoming the HC at K-State.

Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: ChiComCat on December 30, 2016, 09:31:47 AM
If we win 10+ next year and then Snyder steps down, who better would take the job?  <- Serious question for Rusty.  It's a mid-level BCS gig following a legend and a very good season.  Malzahn/Houston both made jumps from mid-majors to top tier gigs without a reason to pass through a K-State.  A Leavitt hire doesn't get me super excited but if he is the floor going into a coaching search, I am pretty happy with that.  With that buyout clause, I think we could offer it to Venzy, Fleck or a similar young up and comer then go to Leavitt as a back up.  If our coaching search were to start and end with Leavitt, that is a mistake.
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: kim carnes on December 30, 2016, 09:32:43 AM
cRusty!
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: meow meow on December 30, 2016, 09:33:53 AM
would Harbaugh be his OC given they are buds and the proximity to Olathe? 
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: That_Guy on December 30, 2016, 09:38:43 AM
Southern Illinois was a mid major with tradition before oscar arrived. oscar is just a poor comparison for Leavitt IMO.

I'm not saying that there aren't questions based on what he did at South Florida because he never did more than have okay seasons in the Big East, but he did build the program from scratch and was a solid coach there.
They are comparable in they were fired from their last head coaching job and KSU shouldn't hire them.

We're fired for completely separate reasons.


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Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: michigancat on December 30, 2016, 09:41:23 AM


If we win 10+ next year and then Snyder steps down, who better would take the job?  <- Serious question for Rusty.  It's a mid-level BCS gig following a legend and a very good season.  Malzahn/Houston both made jumps from mid-majors to top tier gigs without a reason to pass through a K-State.  A Leavitt hire doesn't get me super excited but if he is the floor going into a coaching search, I am pretty happy with that.  With that buyout clause, I think we could offer it to Venzy, Fleck or a similar young up and comer then go to Leavitt as a back up.  If our coaching search were to start and end with Leavitt, that is a mistake.

I'm sure there would be many successful head coaches who hadn't been fired because of mediocre seasons and player abuse that would take the job. We could get a Mahlzan or Fleck or Herman under the right circumstances. I don't know exactly who that would be, but there are similar coaches out there.
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: ChiComCat on December 30, 2016, 09:50:43 AM
I definitely think we should offer those guys first but think there are maybe 4-5 any given year and we will be the second or third tier to pick through them.
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: michigancat on December 30, 2016, 09:58:26 AM


I definitely think we should offer those guys first but think there are maybe 4-5 any given year and we will be the second or third tier to pick through them.

Depends on the year/situation. I mean it's pretty clear we could have made a run at Brohm and Fleck and the guy Baylor hired this year. And possibly Taggart. Texas and LSU have been the only changes in a clear tier above us. You could argue Oregon but they have a geographic disadvantage that could make them less attractive to some coaches.
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: Stupid Fitz on December 30, 2016, 10:11:44 AM
I'm not saying Rusty is wrong, but he probably is.  I would assist in shoving Snyder the eff out of his office today if KSU could reasonably get PJ Fleck, Taggert or the other awesome guys he mentioned that would probably never come here. 
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: michigancat on December 30, 2016, 10:17:42 AM
article that sort of touches on what I was saying

http://www.foxsports.com/college-football/story/willie-taggart-oregon-coach-hired-record-bio-wiki-salary-ducks-usf-south-florida-120716
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: yoga-like_abana on December 30, 2016, 10:34:54 AM
I'm not saying Rusty is wrong, but he probably is.  I would assist in shoving Snyder the eff out of his office today if KSU could reasonably get PJ Fleck, Taggert or the other awesome guys he mentioned that would probably never come here.
I don't get why people are soo ready for Snyder to leave? He's an amazing coach
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: Katpappy on December 30, 2016, 10:40:29 AM
I'm not saying Rusty is wrong, but he probably is.  I would assist in shoving Snyder the eff out of his office today if KSU could reasonably get PJ Fleck, Taggert or the other awesome guys he mentioned that would probably never come here.
I don't get why people are soo ready for Snyder to leave? He's an amazing coach
It's because of the fun of guessing who we could get.  Remember Huggs  :drool:; too bad I also remember Prince.  :Yuck:
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: Stupid Fitz on December 30, 2016, 11:11:12 AM
I'm not saying Rusty is wrong, but he probably is.  I would assist in shoving Snyder the eff out of his office today if KSU could reasonably get PJ Fleck, Taggert or the other awesome guys he mentioned that would probably never come here.
I don't get why people are soo ready for Snyder to leave? He's an amazing coach

It's not that I want to kick him out or anything, but he had to leave or die soon right? I'm just looking ahead.
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: The Big Train on December 30, 2016, 11:23:08 AM
Good grief crusty get some fresh air and come back later

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Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: kim carnes on December 30, 2016, 11:40:27 AM
I'm with bayareacat on this one
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: CHONGS on December 30, 2016, 11:47:37 AM
I'm not a fan, but if he needs to be the sacrificial lamb post-snyder then so be it.    He might be a great coordinator, but i have my doubts on his ability to take a P5 team and sustain it long term or take it to the next level.
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: Tobias on December 30, 2016, 11:50:07 AM
gtfoomf leavitt
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: O-town Kat on December 30, 2016, 11:58:02 AM
Ok with Leavitt if offense and most of offensive staff is kept in place.
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: ChiComCat on December 30, 2016, 12:02:27 PM
Ok with Leavitt if offense and most of offensive staff is kept in place.

Leavitt after next year bringing in a freshly fired Kliff as OC
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: Skipper44 on December 30, 2016, 12:06:22 PM
Leavitt with the current offensive staff is at least a push on gameday and probably a huge increase in recruiting as he will likely bring in new blood on the defensive side. 

My guess is 2018 is Snyd's last - that gives JL two seasons at Oregon and Dimel will be done rough ridin' up RZ possessions with his kid

The real key here is Myers, Currie has spent 10 years of his life in this windy bfe waiting for this hire and I can't see him going with JL who is infinitely more like Frank than oscar :lol: I don't think Bill wants the optics of going over The AD's head but Myers could pull rank. 
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: cfbandyman on December 30, 2016, 12:18:20 PM
Leavitt would be good in the sense that he could be the guy after the guy and we probably wouldn't be complete garbage.


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I think Leavitt could pretty regularly have us at 7-9 wins. I would take anyone that could continue winning here not named Snyder. Just to shake the stigma that only a freak like Snyder can win here.

I feel the same way.

Unless we do hire a super stud, this is the next best option and should be the goal. Having a guy that could produce 2013, 2014, 2016 etc. like seasons on the reg would go a long way to showing that k-state isn't some bum eff no where team that got saved by Snyder.
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: WildcatNkilt on December 30, 2016, 12:20:06 PM
Ok with Leavitt if offense and most of offensive staff is kept in place.

Leavitt after next year bringing in a freshly fired Kliff as OC

TT fans still love Kliff. 
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: wetwillie on December 30, 2016, 12:22:46 PM
my biggest issue with leavitt is that he is ugly and has no charisma
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: Pete on December 30, 2016, 12:22:47 PM
I am making an assumption that Leavitt would keep most of this staff.  I am probably wrong, but for now I will assume that. No judgment on whether that is a good or bad thing.

After that, my personal opinion is that Leavitt is as good as 79 year old Bill.

 On X's and O's and the details of running a program, I think Leavit would be as good as 79 year old Bill.  Leavitt built a program from NOTHING to decent/solid. That is a MASSIVE undertaking that PROVES good management skill.  I am confident in this assessment.

On recruiting, I would bet on Leavitt being better.  And, not just because you can't get much worse than Bill.  Because Leavitt has been more places and participated in different approaches.  He has been "on the recruiting" trail more than Bill. 

On game day, we have reason to believe that Bill is either significantly less involved than he was in the past, and/or actually a cause of disharmony from time to time these days.  At the least, I call this a push with Leavitt.



I will accept and support Leavitt as head coach, if that is what happens.
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: steve dave on December 30, 2016, 12:26:57 PM
I've kinda come to terms with the fact that KSU isn't going to be able to hire anyone of any stature without significant baggage. I'll take Leavitt at this point if we can't have venables or someone of equal quality who's younger (I have no idea who this desperate mystery candidate could be).
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: Pete on December 30, 2016, 12:27:07 PM
Also, I am not going to brow beat anyone into accepting any coach.  Each person gets to make their own choice, and eff me if I think I get to push my crap on you.

For example, I rough ridin' LOATHE oscar Weber.  Some of you like him, and might WANT me to support oscar.  I will not. 
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: Pete on December 30, 2016, 12:28:38 PM
Also, also, many of you seem to have forgotten that Leavitt looks like the mascot of this board.  I like that he does.  Helps our branding.
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: ChiComCat on December 30, 2016, 12:36:17 PM
Agree that Leavitt is a fine option but not a home run option and shouldn't be treated as the only option. 
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: O-town Kat on December 30, 2016, 02:02:17 PM
Ok with Leavitt if offense and most of offensive staff is kept in place.

Leavitt after next year bringing in a freshly fired Kliff as OC

TT fans still love Kliff.
Don't want to rebuild offense and roster for air raid unless Cats are scorched earth rebuilding and that shouldn't be the case in the next 2 years.
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on December 30, 2016, 02:15:38 PM
My assumption is that leavitt put that in there so that it could be leaked and make people think that he is a viable head coaching candidate again. I can't for the life of me see Currie hiring him. He's mildly insane and not especially easy to deal with from what I understand. We could definitely do worse though (see oscar's).
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: yoga-like_abana on December 30, 2016, 02:17:13 PM
When does someone from GPC post that they knew this information all along but were told to keep quiet.. Has this already happened?  :pray:
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: steve dave on December 30, 2016, 02:22:42 PM
When does someone from GPC post that they knew this information all along but were told to keep quiet.. Has this already happened?  :pray:

they may claim that but I can tell you with certainty it would be false
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: MakeItRain on December 30, 2016, 02:27:36 PM
I'm not saying Rusty is wrong, but he probably is.  I would assist in shoving Snyder the eff out of his office today if KSU could reasonably get PJ Fleck, Taggert or the other awesome guys he mentioned that would probably never come here.

I love PJ Fleck, almost as much as I love Sisco but I love K-State more. I wish I had the means to fight every single "K-Stater" who thinks a head coach, from Western Michigan or South Florida, is beyond our reach. The will certainly is there but I need an address list and immunity. I mean LOfuckingL at PJ Fleck not crawling over broken glass to get here if we offered him that job.
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: Gooch on December 30, 2016, 04:14:29 PM
Ok with Leavitt if offense and most of offensive staff is kept in place.

Leavitt after next year bringing in a freshly fired Kliff as OC

Have you ever considered that some of their Defensive woes could be attributed to the bullshit air raid offense? That defense gets gassed early and often.
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: steve dave on December 30, 2016, 04:28:32 PM
I like our offense plenty and want nobody to eff with it right now
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: steve dave on December 30, 2016, 04:28:48 PM
Ride or die dimel as OC is what I'm saying
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: Stupid Fitz on December 30, 2016, 04:28:56 PM
I've kinda come to terms with the fact that KSU isn't going to be able to hire anyone of any stature without significant baggage. I'll take Leavitt at this point if we can't have venables or someone of equal quality who's younger (I have no idea who this desperate mystery candidate could be).

This is the correct answer/response. Currie isn't hiring Venz and probably would fight hiring JL.
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: steve dave on December 30, 2016, 04:30:12 PM
I like to think JL will keep dimel as oc. And our stud OL coach. And Coleman and him probably have some history.
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: Stupid Fitz on December 30, 2016, 04:34:31 PM
I'm not saying Rusty is wrong, but he probably is.  I would assist in shoving Snyder the eff out of his office today if KSU could reasonably get PJ Fleck, Taggert or the other awesome guys he mentioned that would probably never come here.

I love PJ Fleck, almost as much as I love Sisco but I love K-State more. I wish I had the means to fight every single "K-Stater" who thinks a head coach, from Western Michigan or South Florida, is beyond our reach. The will certainly is there but I need an address list and immunity. I mean LOfuckingL at PJ Fleck not crawling over broken glass to get here if we offered him that job.

I mean I'll fight you just for fun, but you are most likely wrong. Fleck has had Big 10 options. They were shitty options, but in a stable conference. I love KSU too, but I'm realistic.

Also, I don't enjoy the thong song either.
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: wetwillie on December 30, 2016, 05:01:56 PM
Speaking of coaches I was apparently so disengaged that I didn't even know CK left for northern rough ridin' Iowa.   
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: O-town Kat on December 30, 2016, 05:17:05 PM
I like to think JL will keep dimel as oc. And our stud OL coach. And Coleman and him probably have some history.
Everything here.  Old man Del can walk.
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: MakeItRain on December 30, 2016, 05:20:27 PM
I'm not saying Rusty is wrong, but he probably is.  I would assist in shoving Snyder the eff out of his office today if KSU could reasonably get PJ Fleck, Taggert or the other awesome guys he mentioned that would probably never come here.

I love PJ Fleck, almost as much as I love Sisco but I love K-State more. I wish I had the means to fight every single "K-Stater" who thinks a head coach, from Western Michigan or South Florida, is beyond our reach. The will certainly is there but I need an address list and immunity. I mean LOfuckingL at PJ Fleck not crawling over broken glass to get here if we offered him that job.

I mean I'll fight you just for fun, but you are most likely wrong. Fleck has had Big 10 options. They were shitty options, but in a stable conference. I love KSU too, but I'm realistic.

Also, I don't enjoy the thong song either.

You think Purdue is a better job than K-State?  :sdeek:
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: kim carnes on December 30, 2016, 05:25:07 PM
I'm not saying Rusty is wrong, but he probably is.  I would assist in shoving Snyder the eff out of his office today if KSU could reasonably get PJ Fleck, Taggert or the other awesome guys he mentioned that would probably never come here.

I love PJ Fleck, almost as much as I love Sisco but I love K-State more. I wish I had the means to fight every single "K-Stater" who thinks a head coach, from Western Michigan or South Florida, is beyond our reach. The will certainly is there but I need an address list and immunity. I mean LOfuckingL at PJ Fleck not crawling over broken glass to get here if we offered him that job.

I mean I'll fight you just for fun, but you are most likely wrong. Fleck has had Big 10 options. They were shitty options, but in a stable conference. I love KSU too, but I'm realistic.

Also, I don't enjoy the thong song either.

You think Purdue is a better job than K-State?  :sdeek:

You're kind of contradicting yourself with this post.
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: michigancat on December 30, 2016, 05:25:53 PM
Why not just hire Dimel if you all are ok with Leavitt? Is starting a program from scratch 25 years ago really relevant today?
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: michigancat on December 30, 2016, 05:28:33 PM
I mean, Dimel knows this program as well as anyone and has coordinated some great offense since he's been here.
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: kso_FAN on December 30, 2016, 05:47:44 PM
I mean, Dimel knows this program as well as anyone and has coordinated some great offense since he's been here.

I view it as keeping Dimel and the offensive staff plus adding probably a better defensive coordinator and staff.

I'm thinking Miller, Mo, and Hayes minimum are gone if Leavitt is here with some younger assistants. Of course Dimel could have a problem because he wasn't hired and leave if that happens.
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: michigancat on December 30, 2016, 05:49:31 PM


I mean, Dimel knows this program as well as anyone and has coordinated some great offense since he's been here.

I view it as keeping Dimel and the offensive staff plus adding probably a better defensive coordinator and staff.

I'm thinking Miller, Mo, and Hayes minimum are gone if Leavitt is here with some younger assistants.

Dimel could also do all that.
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on December 30, 2016, 05:50:28 PM
Southern Illinois was a mid major with tradition before oscar arrived. oscar is just a poor comparison for Leavitt IMO.

I'm not saying that there aren't questions based on what he did at South Florida because he never did more than have okay seasons in the Big East, but he did build the program from scratch and was a solid coach there.

You're rapping with a guy who was devasted when we didn't hire Manny Diaz, so please, save your well reasoned breath from any moron who would deny tjat Leavitt has been anything other than succesful everywhere he's been.
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: Stupid Fitz on December 30, 2016, 05:51:46 PM
I'm not saying Rusty is wrong, but he probably is.  I would assist in shoving Snyder the eff out of his office today if KSU could reasonably get PJ Fleck, Taggert or the other awesome guys he mentioned that would probably never come here.

I love PJ Fleck, almost as much as I love Sisco but I love K-State more. I wish I had the means to fight every single "K-Stater" who thinks a head coach, from Western Michigan or South Florida, is beyond our reach. The will certainly is there but I need an address list and immunity. I mean LOfuckingL at PJ Fleck not crawling over broken glass to get here if we offered him that job.

I mean I'll fight you just for fun, but you are most likely wrong. Fleck has had Big 10 options. They were shitty options, but in a stable conference. I love KSU too, but I'm realistic.

Also, I don't enjoy the thong song either.

You think Purdue is a better job than K-State?  :sdeek:

Probably not, but Purdue would prob pay more and he would have to deal with less bullshit there. Plus, he didn't "walk over glass" or even accept the Purdue job. I mean, Oregon hired Willy Taggert!!! I think Taggert or pretty much anyone from the Harbaugh tree would be great, but none of them or PJ Fleck are waiting and hoping to follow Snyder and come here.
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: michigancat on December 30, 2016, 05:54:02 PM
Why would Purdue pay more than us?
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: michigancat on December 30, 2016, 05:56:26 PM
Southern Illinois was a mid major with tradition before oscar arrived. oscar is just a poor comparison for Leavitt IMO.

I'm not saying that there aren't questions based on what he did at South Florida because he never did more than have okay seasons in the Big East, but he did build the program from scratch and was a solid coach there.

You're rapping with a guy who was devasted when we didn't hire Manny Diaz, so please, save your well reasoned breath from any moron who would deny tjat Leavitt has been anything other than succesful everywhere he's been.
Haha, where do you come up with this stuff
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: Stupid Fitz on December 30, 2016, 05:56:55 PM
Why would Purdue pay more than us?

No idea if they would or wouldn't. I bet they probably would or would come close to what JC would offer the next coach though. It doesn't really matter, he brought up Purdue which doesn't really matter because Fleck didn't go there and probably didn't even consider it.
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: michigancat on December 30, 2016, 05:59:41 PM


Why would Purdue pay more than us?

No idea if they would or wouldn't. I bet they probably would or would come close to what JC would offer the next coach though. It doesn't really matter, he brought up Purdue which doesn't really matter because Fleck didn't go there and probably didn't even consider it.

With the way Currie's been investing in football facilities you think he'd go cheap on the coach?  So bizarre that you'd think that.
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: Pete on December 30, 2016, 06:00:02 PM
I think Leavitt proved more head coaching capability than Dimel, but I acknowledge that the argument for Dimel relies on many of the same foundations as the argument for Leavitt.

If we hired Dimel, I wouldn't go all oscar Weber eff it all, like I have done with basketball, but I would be quite nervous.   I'd shut my mouth and "support him" or whatever, tho.
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: Pete on December 30, 2016, 06:00:43 PM
Also, I actually like that Leavitt is part crazy. 
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on December 30, 2016, 06:11:46 PM
I definitely think we should offer those guys first but think there are maybe 4-5 any given year and we will be the second or third tier to pick through them.

Leavitt is way better than Fleck, and more accomplished than Herman and Malzahn.
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: Trim on December 30, 2016, 06:19:09 PM
Trump outlaws football in his first month after the super bowl. KSU football ends having vanquished its nemesis and Snyder with 200+ and us all knowing we were basically the 2017-18 national champs. Hang the banner, don't sweat any of this.
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on December 30, 2016, 06:19:59 PM
I'm not saying Rusty is wrong, but he probably is.  I would assist in shoving Snyder the eff out of his office today if KSU could reasonably get PJ Fleck, Taggert or the other awesome guys he mentioned that would probably never come here.

I love PJ Fleck, almost as much as I love Sisco but I love K-State more. I wish I had the means to fight every single "K-Stater" who thinks a head coach, from Western Michigan or South Florida, is beyond our reach. The will certainly is there but I need an address list and immunity. I mean LOfuckingL at PJ Fleck not crawling over broken glass to get here if we offered him that job.

I mean I'll fight you just for fun, but you are most likely wrong. Fleck has had Big 10 options. They were shitty options, but in a stable conference. I love KSU too, but I'm realistic.

Also, I don't enjoy the thong song either.

You think Purdue is a better job than K-State?  :sdeek:

Probably not, but Purdue would prob pay more and he would have to deal with less bullshit there. Plus, he didn't "walk over glass" or even accept the Purdue job. I mean, Oregon hired Willy Taggert!!! I think Taggert or pretty much anyone from the Harbaugh tree would be great, but none of them or PJ Fleck are waiting and hoping to follow Snyder and come here.

R u in sane?
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on December 30, 2016, 06:21:09 PM
Why would Purdue pay more than us?

No idea if they would or wouldn't. I bet they probably would or would come close to what JC would offer the next coach though. It doesn't really matter, he brought up Purdue which doesn't really matter because Fleck didn't go there and probably didn't even consider it.

R u Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)?
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: kim carnes on December 30, 2016, 06:25:34 PM
Fsd, u r a giant weirdo
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: CHONGS on December 30, 2016, 06:26:18 PM
I am curious how Leavitt is more accomplished than Gus.
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on December 30, 2016, 06:34:38 PM
Leavitt had, like, a .667 winning % at USF when it went from D2 straight into the Big East, when the Big East was a legitimate conference. He turned a CU dumpster fire of a defense into a top defense in months. He has quality NFL experience. About 110 of 120 D1 programs would be legit jacked to land him, and somehow, someway, there are mongoloided idiots who think he's in parity with or below pj fleck or willie taggert.  :ROFL: You can't make this crap up folks.

I'd be bummed with Bill Belichick but think McDaniels is awesome because he's younger and something derp derp duhr
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: michigancat on December 30, 2016, 06:40:44 PM
Leavitt is Taggart's coordinator, so obviously people in charge of hiring coaches think Leavitt is a tier below Taggart.
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: steve dave on December 30, 2016, 06:41:08 PM
Why not just hire Dimel if you all are ok with Leavitt? Is starting a program from scratch 25 years ago really relevant today?

because with JL we still get dimel but also leavitt (hopefully). none of that crap is relevant. but jim leavitt turning dumpster fire CU into what it was is relevant. quit ignoring that. he's not suddenly a candidate for what he did at south florida. he's a candidate for the same reason he's now the highest paid assistant in the Pac. and I'm not saying JL is some kind of a homerun, I'm just saying you're being a dumbass going anti on the SF talking point.
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: CHONGS on December 30, 2016, 06:44:48 PM
It is true, that 25-26 conference record is a staggering accomplishment.
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on December 30, 2016, 06:45:40 PM
Leavitt is Taggart's coordinator, so obviously people in charge of hiring coaches think Leavitt is a tier below Taggart.

$1.15 million coordinator (e.g., more $$ than the purdue hc makes)
 :lol:
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: CHONGS on December 30, 2016, 06:47:53 PM
Why not just hire Dimel if you all are ok with Leavitt? Is starting a program from scratch 25 years ago really relevant today?

because with JL we still get dimel but also leavitt (hopefully). none of that crap is relevant. but jim leavitt turning dumpster fire CU into what it was is relevant. quit ignoring that. he's not suddenly a candidate for what he did at south florida. he's a candidate for the same reason he's now the highest paid assistant in the Pac. and I'm not saying JL is some kind of a homerun, I'm just saying you're being a dumbass going anti on the SF talking point.
Hes a good def coordinator no doubt, but its his ability to be head coach that is questionable.   
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: wetwillie on December 30, 2016, 06:50:32 PM
Why not just hire Dimel if you all are ok with Leavitt? Is starting a program from scratch 25 years ago really relevant today?

because with JL we still get dimel but also leavitt (hopefully). none of that crap is relevant. but jim leavitt turning dumpster fire CU into what it was is relevant. quit ignoring that. he's not suddenly a candidate for what he did at south florida. he's a candidate for the same reason he's now the highest paid assistant in the Pac. and I'm not saying JL is some kind of a homerun, I'm just saying you're being a dumbass going anti on the SF talking point.

He's getting way too much credit for CU this year.  Mike Gundy hung 40 on his vaunted defense.
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: joda on December 30, 2016, 06:56:37 PM
Why not just hire Dimel if you all are ok with Leavitt? Is starting a program from scratch 25 years ago really relevant today?

because with JL we still get dimel but also leavitt (hopefully). none of that crap is relevant. but jim leavitt turning dumpster fire CU into what it was is relevant. quit ignoring that. he's not suddenly a candidate for what he did at south florida. he's a candidate for the same reason he's now the highest paid assistant in the Pac. and I'm not saying JL is some kind of a homerun, I'm just saying you're being a dumbass going anti on the SF talking point.

He's getting way too much credit for CU this year.  Mike Gundy hung 40 on his vaunted defense.

Well if the argument is that he was the reason that defense turned around, then wouldn't the implosion without him strengthen the argument for him? :dunno:
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: steve dave on December 30, 2016, 06:57:36 PM
leavitt is no homerun guys. I don't think a single person is saying that. we're discussing his spot on the burn it down/ ok fine / OMG scale. He's firmly ok fine imo.
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: gatoveintisiete on December 30, 2016, 06:58:40 PM
The next guy needs to be able to coach up 2 stars or recruit at a MUCH higher level, I don't see either happening, I think good football at ksu will walk out the door with Bill  :frown:

We need to put all our efforts into basketball, way easier to be great.
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on December 30, 2016, 06:59:19 PM
Jumping from Pitt State to the equivalent of the ACC is the same as auburn or directional michigan
#goEtard
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: CHONGS on December 30, 2016, 06:59:22 PM
As long as its for less than five years its ok fine with me.
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: michigancat on December 30, 2016, 06:59:58 PM
leavitt is no homerun guys. I don't think a single person is saying that. we're discussing his spot on the burn it down/ ok fine / OMG scale. He's firmly ok fine imo.
Is Dimel also in the "ok fine" tier?
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: steve dave on December 30, 2016, 07:00:36 PM
I think you are underselling leavitt's ability to recruit, and most any coach's ability to. I can go into a long winded specifics reason why this is but the summary is Bill doesn't allow his guys to really hit the trail in favor of spending time with their butts in the seat at home. that has been amazing for us with bill obviously. maybe that's the only way you can win at KSU, but I don't think that's accurate.
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: steve dave on December 30, 2016, 07:01:38 PM
leavitt is no homerun guys. I don't think a single person is saying that. we're discussing his spot on the burn it down/ ok fine / OMG scale. He's firmly ok fine imo.
Is Dimel also in the "ok fine" tier?

not for me. with leavitt I'm assuming Dimel is still there.
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: steve dave on December 30, 2016, 07:04:00 PM
As long as its for less than five years its ok fine with me.

he's old AF. obviously it's for ~5 years unless he's great then he can coach until he dies like our current coach.
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: steve dave on December 30, 2016, 07:05:06 PM
I'm pissed off I'm defending JL as a HC candidate at KSU because I'm very MEH about it.
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: chum1 on December 30, 2016, 07:08:12 PM
Zero meltdown for me if we did not pursue Leavitt.

Castle Bravo if we did not pursue Brenvy.
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: steve dave on December 30, 2016, 07:09:57 PM
I'd absolutely take BV ahead of JL. It's a higher upside option. I think it could go down in flames harder as well, which is good for not being stuck in mediocrity which JL could put us in.
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: michigancat on December 30, 2016, 07:12:20 PM
leavitt is no homerun guys. I don't think a single person is saying that. we're discussing his spot on the burn it down/ ok fine / OMG scale. He's firmly ok fine imo.
Is Dimel also in the "ok fine" tier?

not for me. with leavitt I'm assuming Dimel is still there.
I could be fine with either but Dimel doesn't have the player choking thing and is younger. IMO that offsets what Leavitt did at CU.
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: Trim on December 30, 2016, 07:16:26 PM
When Jim Leavitt is available, you lock that crap down.
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: kim carnes on December 30, 2016, 07:17:37 PM
Unless you're intentionally trying to make a bad hire it would be pretty hard to make a worse hire than leavitt.  It would be an unbelievably crappy hire.
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: steve dave on December 30, 2016, 07:18:05 PM
leavitt is no homerun guys. I don't think a single person is saying that. we're discussing his spot on the burn it down/ ok fine / OMG scale. He's firmly ok fine imo.
Is Dimel also in the "ok fine" tier?

not for me. with leavitt I'm assuming Dimel is still there.
I could be fine with either but Dimel doesn't have the player choking thing and is younger. IMO that offsets what Leavitt did at CU.

I'm low MEH on that. I think Leavitt's recruiting ties puts him a level above. Either one are in the MEH range. Maybe Dimel brings someone in as OC that puts him above though.
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: wetwillie on December 30, 2016, 07:26:15 PM
He choked a player.  We get it for fucks sake.
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: gatoveintisiete on December 30, 2016, 07:26:47 PM
500,000 base salary, 1 mill bonus for every win over 8. Weed out unconfident losers
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: michigancat on December 30, 2016, 07:33:48 PM


leavitt is no homerun guys. I don't think a single person is saying that. we're discussing his spot on the burn it down/ ok fine / OMG scale. He's firmly ok fine imo.
Is Dimel also in the "ok fine" tier?

not for me. with leavitt I'm assuming Dimel is still there.
I could be fine with either but Dimel doesn't have the player choking thing and is younger. IMO that offsets what Leavitt did at CU.

I'm low MEH on that. I think Leavitt's recruiting ties puts him a level above. Either one are in the MEH range. Maybe Dimel brings someone in as OC that puts him above though.

who did he recruit to cu?
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: Pete on December 30, 2016, 07:36:49 PM
I am curious....Who do you guys think Currie will hire?  Set aside who you want, and think about what you believe will happen.
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: steve dave on December 30, 2016, 07:39:35 PM


leavitt is no homerun guys. I don't think a single person is saying that. we're discussing his spot on the burn it down/ ok fine / OMG scale. He's firmly ok fine imo.
Is Dimel also in the "ok fine" tier?

not for me. with leavitt I'm assuming Dimel is still there.
I could be fine with either but Dimel doesn't have the player choking thing and is younger. IMO that offsets what Leavitt did at CU.

I'm low MEH on that. I think Leavitt's recruiting ties puts him a level above. Either one are in the MEH range. Maybe Dimel brings someone in as OC that puts him above though.

who did he recruit to cu?

 :dubious:
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: michigancat on December 30, 2016, 07:41:52 PM
I am curious....Who do you guys think Currie will hire?  Set aside who you want, and think about what you believe will happen.
I could see him hiring someone like Derek Mason
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: steve dave on December 30, 2016, 07:44:37 PM
JC wants a big win. I don't believe he wants another BW and I honestly believe he knows that was a loser hire. whether he actually hires someone worth a crap is another story. but I have a good amount of faith he's not going to punt like the weber hire.
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on December 30, 2016, 07:47:49 PM
I'm cool gambling like a madman in basketball hires because of the ability to turn something terrible around quickly. Football is harder. That makes me more ok with meh hires like leavitt. I'm also assuming that our good assistants stay and the super old or bad ones are dealt with appropriately. Still don't think we would hire him though but who knows.
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: MakeItRain on December 30, 2016, 07:51:08 PM
Why would Purdue pay more than us?

No idea if they would or wouldn't. I bet they probably would or would come close to what JC would offer the next coach though. It doesn't really matter, he brought up Purdue which doesn't really matter because Fleck didn't go there and probably didn't even consider it.

You brought up the Big 10. You clearly don't think we measure up to the Big 10's middle class comprised of Nebraska, Iowa, Northwestern, and Indiana, so you think we belong with the garbagey Purdue, Illinois, Rutgers, and Maryland. I firmly disagree, we would fit into the Big 10 middle class easily. Mike Riley only makes $2.7 million, that isn't crap, KU could afford that for a coach if they needed to.  Since you don't think we can hang.with Northwestern I'd be interested to know who you think we compare to.
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: TheHamburglar on December 30, 2016, 07:53:08 PM
I don't care what he did at USF.  However, I don't see John "I am risk management" Currie hiring him.  He might have had s chance with Currie if he got fired for hitting the kid, but I don't think John will be able to get past the cover-up attempt and telling playing/coaches to lie to cover up.
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: steve dave on December 30, 2016, 07:53:16 PM
MIR, do you think fleck would come here and what would we be required to pay him?
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: steve dave on December 30, 2016, 07:54:21 PM
I don't care what he did at USF.  However, I don't see John "I am risk management" Currie hiring him.  He might have had s chance with Currie if he got fired for hitting the kid, but I don't think John will be able to get past the cover-up attempt and telling playing/coaches to lie to cover up.

do you think he's just adding KSU HC gig to his contract because he was an assistant coach there 20 years ago?
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: michigancat on December 30, 2016, 07:59:14 PM
I'm cool gambling like a madman in basketball hires because of the ability to turn something terrible around quickly. Football is harder. That makes me more ok with meh hires like leavitt. I'm also assuming that our good assistants stay and the super old or bad ones are dealt with appropriately. Still don't think we would hire him though but who knows.
Yeah.
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: TheHamburglar on December 30, 2016, 08:01:53 PM
I don't care what he did at USF.  However, I don't see John "I am risk management" Currie hiring him.  He might have had s chance with Currie if he got fired for hitting the kid, but I don't think John will be able to get past the cover-up attempt and telling playing/coaches to lie to cover up.

do you think he's just adding KSU HC gig to his contract because he was an assistant coach there 20 years ago?

I think he added it for the 10% chance Currie is gone this time next year just to be safe because he could.
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: MakeItRain on December 30, 2016, 08:10:19 PM
I am curious....Who do you guys think Currie will hire?  Set aside who you want, and think about what you believe will happen.
I could see him hiring someone like Derek Mason

That's a great one. I've posted a list more than once. He's going to hire someone with experience, preferably P5, who will not embarrass the athletic department. Mason is perfect because Currie can essentially do to Vandy like he did to TCU when he got Mittie. He got a coach who was recognized as a very good coach at an inferior P5 program and threw cash, facilities, and a give a crap fanbase in their face. Despite some of our own not understanding how much money we have, we can absolutely out spend  a fair amount of P5 schools on salaries. I think there are three of these guys who currently fit this mold:
Derek Mason
Mike MacIntire
and unfortunately Tracy Claeys

If he can't get one of those guys he then goes to the accomplished group of 5 guy
PJ
Scott Satterfield
Brian Harsin
Craig Bohl
Scott Frost
Jeff Monken
Paul Petrino
etc.
If this takes a couple of years I'd look out for Luke Fickel and Mike Norvell
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: michigancat on December 30, 2016, 08:13:04 PM
I am curious....Who do you guys think Currie will hire?  Set aside who you want, and think about what you believe will happen.
I could see him hiring someone like Derek Mason

That's a great one. I've posted a list more than once. He's going to hire someone with experience, preferably P5, who will not embarrass the athletic department. Mason is perfect because Currie can essentially do to Vandy like he did to TCU when he got Mittie. He got a coach who was recognized as a very good coach at an inferior P5 program and threw cash, facilities, and a give a crap fanbase in their face. Despite some of our own not understanding how much money we have, we can absolutely out spend  a fair amount of P5 schools on salaries. I think there are three of these guys who currently fit this mold:
Derek Mason
Mike MacIntire
and unfortunately Tracy Claeys

If he can't get one of those guys he then goes to the accomplished group of 5 guy
PJ
Scott Satterfield
Brian Harsin
Craig Bohl
Scott Frost
Jeff Monken
Paul Petrino
etc.
If this takes a couple of years I'd look out for Luke Fickel and Mike Norvell
Dave Clawson and Pat Fitzgerald
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: steve dave on December 30, 2016, 08:13:51 PM
what are your thoughts on the guys on that list MIR?
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: MakeItRain on December 30, 2016, 08:15:30 PM
MIR, do you think fleck would come here and what would we be required to pay him?

I do. I thought it was a lock with Kill here, but he's gone now so whatever. I think it will take 2.5-3.
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: steve dave on December 30, 2016, 08:16:12 PM
personally I'm not going to (hoping) put john currie's crap weber hire into the equation with this hire. It's the one shitty actual data point I have, I realize that, but I'm giving him a lot of benefit of the doubt.
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: steve dave on December 30, 2016, 08:17:00 PM
MIR, do you think fleck would come here and what would we be required to pay him?

I do. I thought it was a lock with Kill here, but he's gone now so whatever. I think it will take 2.5-3.

we'll absolutely pay that. I'd definitely take if he'd come for that.
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: steve dave on December 30, 2016, 08:19:06 PM
rough ridin' kingsburry makes over 3. we'd pay fleck that.
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: MakeItRain on December 30, 2016, 08:22:01 PM
I am curious....Who do you guys think Currie will hire?  Set aside who you want, and think about what you believe will happen.
I could see him hiring someone like Derek Mason

That's a great one. I've posted a list more than once. He's going to hire someone with experience, preferably P5, who will not embarrass the athletic department. Mason is perfect because Currie can essentially do to Vandy like he did to TCU when he got Mittie. He got a coach who was recognized as a very good coach at an inferior P5 program and threw cash, facilities, and a give a crap fanbase in their face. Despite some of our own not understanding how much money we have, we can absolutely out spend  a fair amount of P5 schools on salaries. I think there are three of these guys who currently fit this mold:
Derek Mason
Mike MacIntire
and unfortunately Tracy Claeys

If he can't get one of those guys he then goes to the accomplished group of 5 guy
PJ
Scott Satterfield
Brian Harsin
Craig Bohl
Scott Frost
Jeff Monken
Paul Petrino
etc.
If this takes a couple of years I'd look out for Luke Fickel and Mike Norvell
Dave Clawson and Pat Fitzgerald
Clawson is a good one, I don't think Fitzgerald is leaving at this point, he's seemingly had several opportunities. Also he makes like no money there at all.
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: Trim on December 30, 2016, 08:22:41 PM
Has a school ever paid a good coach too much?  Like, the good coach comes in and is as successful as anyone could hope but the success doesn't produce enough revenue or whatever to justify his salary?  Is that even possible?
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: steve dave on December 30, 2016, 08:23:58 PM
Has a school ever paid a good coach too much?  Like, the good coach comes in and is as successful as anyone could hope but the success doesn't produce enough revenue or whatever to justify his salary?  Is that even possible?

no, that is not possible.
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: Trim on December 30, 2016, 08:26:18 PM
Has a school ever paid a good coach too much?  Like, the good coach comes in and is as successful as anyone could hope but the success doesn't produce enough revenue or whatever to justify his salary?  Is that even possible?

no, that is not possible.

Good, that should make this a lot easier.
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: steve dave on December 30, 2016, 08:26:29 PM
I don't know if saben or meyer make $10 million a year but if they don't they should. I actually would be interested in the ceiling for either. $20? $30? schools worry a lot about what the other schools are doing.
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: MakeItRain on December 30, 2016, 08:28:13 PM
what are your thoughts on the guys on that list MIR?

Whipping it out
Mason, I think, maybe, :dunno:
MacIntire
PJ
Yeah, okay
Everyone else
GTFOOHWTS
Claeys
Monken

Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: Skipper44 on December 30, 2016, 08:30:47 PM
lol at not counting the Weber hire against him, he Lumberg'd the eff out of Frank from the moment he got to mhk and his answer was a guy that got fired for sucking out loud days before Frank left.

I hope Myers has enough sense to do what Bill wants and not what the intersection of the Peter Principle and consultant cronyism wants.


Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: Trim on December 30, 2016, 08:31:19 PM
I don't know if saben or meyer make $10 million a year but if they don't they should. I actually would be interested in the ceiling for either. $20? $30? schools worry a lot about what the other schools are doing.

Def should've skimped a bit on the new vanier or whatever and routed $30m of donor money to hiring one of them.
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: steve dave on December 30, 2016, 08:37:06 PM
what are your thoughts on the guys on that list MIR?

Whipping it out
Mason, I think, maybe, :dunno:
MacIntire
PJ
Yeah, okay
Everyone else
GTFOOHWTS
Claeys
Monken

I don't think mason or mac are realistic and even if they were I don't know if they are good. similar to leavitt. but leavitt we can for sure have. PJ has more upside but I think he wants more than KSU. and I'm not someone who needs a lifer at KSU. if we can get 2 or 3 great years out of an up and comer I'm definitely for it.
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on December 30, 2016, 08:38:33 PM
I don't know if saben or meyer make $10 million a year but if they don't they should. I actually would be interested in the ceiling for either. $20? $30? schools worry a lot about what the other schools are doing.

Def should've skimped a bit on the new vanier or whatever and routed $30m of donor money to hiring one of them.

Yes
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: Trim on December 30, 2016, 08:48:34 PM
"And as we conduct the traditional presentation of the purple borck brothers blazer, let's all give a big kstate family welcome to the new carl & mary ice head coach of football, nick saban!"
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: steve dave on December 30, 2016, 08:51:14 PM
 :lol:
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: MakeItRain on December 30, 2016, 09:05:10 PM
lol at not counting the Weber hire against him, he Lumberg'd the eff out of Frank from the moment he got to mhk and his answer was a guy that got fired for sucking out loud days before Frank left.

I hope Myers has enough sense to do what Bill wants and not what the intersection of the Peter Principle and consultant cronyism wants.

I don't want to do what Bill wants when it comes to hiring a football coach.
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: steve dave on December 30, 2016, 09:05:59 PM
lol at not counting the Weber hire against him, he Lumberg'd the eff out of Frank from the moment he got to mhk and his answer was a guy that got fired for sucking out loud days before Frank left.

I hope Myers has enough sense to do what Bill wants and not what the intersection of the Peter Principle and consultant cronyism wants.

I don't want to do what Bill wants when it comes to hiring a football coach.

I don't want to do it assuming it's hire sean and just do what sean wants. I don't know for sure if Bill has other options in mind though. I'm fairly confident he doesn't but want to give him the benefit of the doubt.
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: CHONGS on December 30, 2016, 09:07:06 PM
Who knows more about coaching at KSU than Bill?
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: steve dave on December 30, 2016, 09:08:02 PM
Who knows more about coaching at KSU than Bill?

SEAN!
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: CHONGS on December 30, 2016, 09:08:45 PM
Sounds like we should hire him then.  Checks all the boxes.
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: steve dave on December 30, 2016, 09:09:45 PM
I'm conflicted AF about all of it.
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: Woogy on December 30, 2016, 09:11:59 PM
Thinking back to how we were too good for Eddie Sutton....
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: CHONGS on December 30, 2016, 09:12:18 PM
There's a reason Currie gets paid the big bucks!
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: steve dave on December 30, 2016, 09:14:10 PM
Thinking back to how we were to good for Eddie Sutton....

yeah
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: chum1 on December 30, 2016, 09:27:33 PM
My thoughts on the HC Sean Snyder Experiment:

2009: eff NO
2010: still eff NO
2011: I mean, maybe he could keep this going
2012: I'M IN, let's try to keep this going
2013: HCSSE still has more potential than whatever loser we'd hire
2014: Man, look at Venables over there
2015: OH MY GOD VENABLES
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: steve dave on December 30, 2016, 09:28:41 PM
My thoughts on the HC Sean Snyder Experiment:

2009: eff NO
2010: still eff NO
2011: I mean, maybe he could keep this going
2012: I'M IN, let's try to keep this going
2013: HCSSE still has more potential than whatever loser we'd hire
2014: Man, look at Venables over there
2015: OH MY GOD VENABLES

 :lol: lines up with dimel for me
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on December 30, 2016, 10:06:56 PM
If KSU is Leavitt's dream job and he wants to be in Manhattan, I think he would be a great second choice.
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: kim carnes on December 30, 2016, 11:35:06 PM
Guys, chum1 is a phenomenal poster
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: steaksdime on December 31, 2016, 12:10:41 AM
This thread is goEMAW at its best...fun to read. Go Cats. 
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: Katpappy on December 31, 2016, 12:12:00 AM
My thoughts on the HC Sean Snyder Experiment:

2009: eff NO
2010: still eff NO
2011: I mean, maybe he could keep this going
2012: I'M IN, let's try to keep this going
2013: HCSSE still has more potential than whatever loser we'd hire
2014: Man, look at Venables over there
2015: OH MY GOD VENABLES
and 2016...2017?
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: michigancat on December 31, 2016, 12:25:57 AM
Thinking back to how we were to good for Eddie Sutton....

yeah
Leavitt is much closer to oscar than Eddie Sutton, my word.
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: Katpappy on December 31, 2016, 12:29:00 AM
It's pretty obvious that Leavitt has got some kind of deal with JC and LHCBS blessing to be the next HC for KSU... or he's just a stupid eff to put that in his contract.
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: Pete on December 31, 2016, 07:51:02 AM
It's pretty obvious that Leavitt has got some kind of deal with JC OR LHCBS blessing to be the next HC for KSU... or he's just a stupid eff to put that in his contract.

fyp
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: Belvis Noland on December 31, 2016, 08:04:54 AM
It's pretty obvious that Leavitt has got some kind of deal with JC and LHCBS blessing to be the next HC for KSU... or he's just a stupid eff to put that in his contract.

Being a natural KSU pessimist by nature, I consider it's possible that an exception clause is relatively common in most large buyout contracts??  I don't know, honestly. But maybe his agent put it on the table without Leavitt doing much "negotiating." And KSU is a P5 job that he's connected to and is guaranteed to have a coaching vacancy in 1-3 years.

This, and maybe he assumed his contract details wouldn't garner much publicity.

The alternative is that he has a handshake deal with Snyder, a guy who has been openly advocating for his son to get the job as late as this past offseason.
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: Pete on December 31, 2016, 08:10:28 AM


The alternative is that he has a handshake deal with Snyder, a guy who has been openly advocating for his son to get the job as late as this past offseason.

They hybrid theory is that Bill might be throwing Sean out there without the sincere belief that Sean will get the job, or even want the job.  Instead, he'd "settle" for Leavitt?

I don't really think of Bill as a negotiator, but maybe that's what it is?  Who knows.
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: ChiComCat on December 31, 2016, 08:19:23 AM
If Bill thinks Sean is a non-starter with Currie, he would take Leavitt who would definitely keep Sean on.
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: cat taco on December 31, 2016, 08:41:28 AM
Here's a post from an Oregon message board, they don't seem too worried about it.  Interesting that they think we would go after Rex Ryan if Snyder retires.  http://oregon.247sports.com/Board/45/Contents/The-contract-for-Jim-Leavitt-has-been-released-50103177
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: kso_FAN on December 31, 2016, 09:02:48 AM
Here's a post from an Oregon message board, they don't seem too worried about it.  Interesting that they think we would go after Rex Ryan if Snyder retires.  http://oregon.247sports.com/Board/45/Contents/The-contract-for-Jim-Leavitt-has-been-released-50103177

I appreciate they mentioned Rex's K-State ties.

I like that the highest paid coordinator in the Pac 12 has K-State as his dream job.
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: Dugout DickStone on December 31, 2016, 09:18:25 AM
what kind of BBS nirvana would HCRR be?
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: Woogy on December 31, 2016, 09:21:57 AM
Here's a post from an Oregon message board, they don't seem too worried about it.  Interesting that they think we would go after Rex Ryan if Snyder retires.  http://oregon.247sports.com/Board/45/Contents/The-contract-for-Jim-Leavitt-has-been-released-50103177

Quote
Would it be inappropriate to send a few bottles of glucosamine and chondroitin to the KSU athletic department? 
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: ChiComCat on December 31, 2016, 09:25:26 AM
Here's a post from an Oregon message board, they don't seem too worried about it.  Interesting that they think we would go after Rex Ryan if Snyder retires.  http://oregon.247sports.com/Board/45/Contents/The-contract-for-Jim-Leavitt-has-been-released-50103177

I appreciate they mentioned Rex's K-State ties.

I like that the highest paid coordinator in the Pac 12 has K-State as his dream job.

Yea, just having that clause in there makes me feel big time even if it is a 60 year old DC with a checkered past.
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: catastrophe on December 31, 2016, 11:24:16 AM
It's pretty obvious that Leavitt has got some kind of deal with JC and LHCBS blessing to be the next HC for KSU... or he's just a stupid eff to put that in his contract.

I was just going to post this. No reasonable person would give up that much leverage on future head coaching negotiations unless most of the terms were already set.
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on December 31, 2016, 12:26:06 PM
Brady Hoke had this same "dream job" clause in his San Diego State contract regarding Michigan. He had one good season at SDSU and got offered the job.
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: ChiComCat on December 31, 2016, 12:38:44 PM
Leavitt is going to get paid what he is offered if he gets another HC job.  KSU won't want to be seen as cheap and will pay him just fine but he was never going to milk Currie with or without the clause in his contract.
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: Panjandrum on December 31, 2016, 12:46:19 PM
I think it's likely that Bill and John have fought about this for a while, and Leavitt is the only common ground.

Bill wants someone that will keep his staff, coaching AND administrative. At this point, I firmly believe he's hanging on to keep his KSU family employed. He's the tent pole that keeps them getting paid by KSU and in Manhattan. Also, Leavitt would let him keep an office in Vanier and have influence.

I'm with _FAN that a handful of guys are gone when Snyder leaves. But I think a few could come back. Joe Bob, Klein, etc.

I think you could convince Dimel to stay if he got an AHC title and a raise to the 600-700k range.

I'm 100% Venzy, but Jim is the best chance we have to resemble an internal transition. The only major difference would be a change of defensive style. But I think that would be a positive change.
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: Panjandrum on December 31, 2016, 12:48:13 PM
Also, Leavitt would have Snyder's blessing, and the major donors would be appeased. Donations to complete BSFS wouldn't cease.

With Sean, I think pocketbooks would tighten for a while.
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: Dugout DickStone on December 31, 2016, 01:01:30 PM
If Sean wins early the pocketbooks would explode open bc "holy crap we have Bill Jr and we will continue being a big 12 contender forevers!"
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: SleepFighter on December 31, 2016, 02:28:29 PM
If Sean wins early the pocketbooks would explode open bc "holy crap we have Bill Jr and we will continue being a big 12 contender forevers!"

 :ksu:

What's Tate doing in twenty years?
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: KITNfury on December 31, 2016, 03:38:16 PM
If Sean wins early the pocketbooks would explode open bc "holy crap we have Bill Jr and we will continue being a big 12 contender forevers!"
Sean being a great HC would be awesome.
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: POWL on December 31, 2016, 03:43:44 PM
Also, Leavitt would have Snyder's blessing, and the major donors would be appeased. Donations to complete BSFS wouldn't cease.

With Sean, I think pocketbooks would tighten for a while.

this .........and Bill has a new trump card over Currie, with Gen. Myers......a guy who loves sports and Bill......Currie is now going to have to have a Myers/Synder blessing on the next hire
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: MadCat on December 31, 2016, 05:27:10 PM
Does a JL HC keep Sean on staff?  I think that would tell a lot if compromises were made.
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: O-town Kat on December 31, 2016, 05:30:45 PM
Does a JL HC keep Sean on staff?  I think that would tell a lot if compromises were made.
If he wants to, Sean will be on the next staff regardless of whose it is
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: KITNfury on December 31, 2016, 06:11:54 PM
I think a new coach would strongly consider keeping him regardless of any deal.
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on December 31, 2016, 07:12:57 PM
I wish Sean would cut the apron strings and take a D2 or lower D1 head coaching job and see if he can do it.
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: Shooter Jones on December 31, 2016, 07:30:47 PM
Guys, Venzy is perfect.

It moves when I think about him coaching our cats. The recruiting possibilities, how he looks/acts like hot sex on the sidelines, his staff. He can have my wife if that would seal the deal.
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: KITNfury on December 31, 2016, 07:40:57 PM
I wish Sean would cut the apron strings and take a D2 or lower D1 head coaching job and see if he can do it.
Yea
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: steve dave on December 31, 2016, 07:46:27 PM
Thinking back to how we were to good for Eddie Sutton....

yeah
Leavitt is much closer to oscar than Eddie Sutton, my word.

I thought he was talking about the transition to Sutton jr and Snyder jr
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: kso_FAN on December 31, 2016, 07:47:00 PM
I wish Sean would cut the apron strings and take a D2 or lower D1 head coaching job and see if he can do it.

If he wanted to be a head coach he would. I think he's doing what he wants to do.
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: Katpappy on December 31, 2016, 08:02:53 PM
I wish Sean would cut the apron strings and take a D2 or lower D1 head coaching job and see if he can do it.

If he wanted to be a head coach he would. I think he's doing what he wants to do.
I wonder what his pay is?  I bet it's the highest assistant coach pay on HCBS staff.
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: WillieWatanabe on December 31, 2016, 08:09:03 PM
If Sean wins early the pocketbooks would explode open bc "holy crap we have Bill Jr and we will continue being a big 12 contender forevers!"

 :ksu:

What's Tate doing in twenty years?

running a hobby shop most likely.
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: Katpappy on December 31, 2016, 08:22:44 PM
The more I think about it, the more I think JC is in on this.  JL meets the successful coach who was fired and could come back here with a recommendation from a former football legend HCBS.  Isn't this how we got Oscar?
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: treysolid on December 31, 2016, 08:26:32 PM
our next HC would be stupid to run Sean off the staff. he's an excellent ST coach.
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: treysolid on December 31, 2016, 08:29:21 PM
in fact, i'm confident that multiple blue bloods will be reaching out to Sean the minute Bill announces his retirement.
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: ELL3 on December 31, 2016, 08:32:30 PM
Does not matter for us, but niners fired Chip
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on December 31, 2016, 10:24:46 PM
I wish Sean would cut the apron strings and take a D2 or lower D1 head coaching job and see if he can do it.

If he wanted to be a head coach he would. I think he's doing what he wants to do.

So has it been decided that he is no longer a candidate for KSU head coach?
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: kso_FAN on December 31, 2016, 11:32:50 PM
I wish Sean would cut the apron strings and take a D2 or lower D1 head coaching job and see if he can do it.

If he wanted to be a head coach he would. I think he's doing what he wants to do.
I wonder what his pay is?  I bet it's the highest assistant coach pay on HCBS staff.

Dimel, Miller, Hayes, and Dickey all make more.

(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170101/91f6dde4563cb7cd51cd564243b49248.jpg)
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 01, 2017, 12:12:32 AM
Good for Blake!
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: Paul Moscow on January 01, 2017, 01:07:29 AM
Mo Latimore has been an assistant coach for 33 years, wtf
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: bones129 on January 01, 2017, 02:09:12 AM
Charlie Dickey is underpaid.
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: treysolid on January 01, 2017, 08:05:02 AM
del and andre's salaries need to do a freaky friday-type sitch.
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Post by: kslim on January 01, 2017, 08:33:14 AM
Chip kelly will be fired today. My word would that be amaze balls
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: cat taco on January 01, 2017, 08:38:06 AM
This would be the perfect year for Snyder to retire, almost any coach could come in and have success next year with what we have returning.  But I'm sure that makes it hard for Snyder to retire as well.
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: mocat on January 01, 2017, 09:27:49 AM
Mike Cox
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Post by: ben ji on January 01, 2017, 09:43:40 AM
Mo Latimore has been an assistant coach for 33 years, wtf

He is also a huge dick FYI
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: That_Guy on January 01, 2017, 09:45:45 AM
I'm telling you guys, after Clemson beats 'Bama for the title. Snyder then has given some thought and time into retiring and does so. Venables comes home.


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Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: Katpappy on January 01, 2017, 12:37:11 PM
I'm telling you guys, after Clemson beats 'Bama for the title. Snyder then has given some thought and time into retiring and does so. Venables comes home.


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Maybe Leavitt get hired as HC and convinces BV to come home to his alma mater to be the DC and HCIW. (http://goEMAW.com/forum/Smileys/goEMAW/Drool.gif)
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: kso_FAN on January 01, 2017, 12:54:11 PM
I'm telling you guys, after Clemson beats 'Bama for the title. Snyder then has given some thought and time into retiring and does so. Venables comes home.


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Maybe Leavitt get hired as HC and convinces BV to come home to his alma mater to be the DC and HCIW. (http://goEMAW.com/forum/Smileys/goEMAW/Drool.gif)

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Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: sys on January 01, 2017, 04:04:55 PM
being weird looking and maybe a little insane are pretty big positives.  in the abstract i think i'm against slapping players or whatever he did, but when it comes down to an actual badass insane genius kstate coach doing it i guess i don't care much.


Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: michigancat on January 01, 2017, 04:46:15 PM
being weird looking and maybe a little insane are pretty big positives.  in the abstract i think i'm against slapping players or whatever he did, but when it comes down to an actual badass insane genius kstate coach doing it i guess i don't care much.
He hasn't shown he's a genius though. IMO
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: The Big Train on January 01, 2017, 05:45:10 PM
being weird looking and maybe a little insane are pretty big positives.  in the abstract i think i'm against slapping players or whatever he did, but when it comes down to an actual badass insane genius kstate coach doing it i guess i don't care much.
He hasn't shown he's a genius though. IMO

What more does he need to do?  Ohio State averaged 42.7 points this year and their lowest scoring game they scored 17.  Ohio State also scored 45 or more 6 times this year.

All of those stats aside Clemson shut them out. I'd say that's pretty genius scheming.
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: michigancat on January 01, 2017, 05:46:08 PM
being weird looking and maybe a little insane are pretty big positives.  in the abstract i think i'm against slapping players or whatever he did, but when it comes down to an actual badass insane genius kstate coach doing it i guess i don't care much.
He hasn't shown he's a genius though. IMO

What more does he need to do?  Ohio State averaged 42.7 points this year and their lowest scoring game they scored 17.  Ohio State also scored 45 or more 6 times this year.

All of those stats aside Clemson shut them out. I'd say that's pretty genius scheming.
We're talking about Leavitt
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: The Big Train on January 01, 2017, 05:46:34 PM
I know I was just testing you :buh-bye:
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: GoodForAnother on January 01, 2017, 05:53:49 PM
Leavitt would be an above average hire, not the best we can get, but would be a fine backup if/when we whiff our way down to him. If we hire him without offering a few others that'd be dumb.
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: sys on January 01, 2017, 06:19:01 PM
He hasn't shown he's a genius though.

you're just pretending not to be convinced so people don't figure out you're a wussy participation tropher who thinks it's more important to not slap players than to win.
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: wetwillie on January 01, 2017, 06:34:06 PM
Frank Martin slapped the crap out of Energy and rusty didnt protest about it.  I think its the choking that is where he draws the line. 
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: TheHamburglar on January 01, 2017, 06:45:16 PM
Frank Martin slapped the crap out of Energy and rusty didnt protest about it.  I think its the choking that is where he draws the line.

The more difficult line for the AD will be the attempted cover-up and giving players and coaches instructions on how to explain what happened to the USF AD.
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: ben ji on January 02, 2017, 10:19:49 AM
Who wants to hear a story about how lil smart ass ben ji got "hit" by a coach?!?

Our wrestling coach in high school was a wiry little man of about 5'4, kinda weird looking but eventually he found someone to marry him earlier that year. We were on the way back from state my senior year in one of those big ole conversion vans, he was in the front passenger seat and I was in the second row of seats.

He starts telling a story about this time his dog got sprayed by a skunk and all the steps he had to take to get rid of the smell, I quipped up "Jeez coach, I didn't realize your wife was that much of a hassle".

The coach whipped around and came right over the first row of seats to grab my shirt with a fist, point a finger at me and say "Don't you ever talk about my wife like that".

By the time school started again next week there were all sorts of rumors that he had punched/choked me etc. I end up getting called into the principles office and have to explain what happened. I liked the guy but knew he could get into some trouble for what he did so I told the principle that I was at fault for making the comment and left out the part about him grabbing my shirt, basically just said he climbed over the row of seating and pointed a finger at me while telling me not to speak of his wife like that.

Nothing came of it after that but if I didn't like the guy I could of easily embellished the truth a bit and got him fired. 
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: ChiComCat on January 02, 2017, 10:46:51 AM
Maybe people with the firey temperament are just better off as coordinators (Mangino, DC Stoops, Leavitt, Venzy, etc) where a HC can oversee and reel them in when need be.  I do think that Leavitt has shown he can still coach and has been doing so long enough without incident that he will be deserving of another HC gig. 
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: KsuWildcatsXII on January 02, 2017, 11:10:03 AM
Just got on Venzy's Wikipedia page to see what year he left OU and saw this. Stop the presses!

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Post by: That_Guy on January 02, 2017, 11:12:57 AM
Just got on Venzy's Wikipedia page to see what year he left OU and saw this. Stop the presses!

Omg, if only Wikipedia was a credible source. :love:


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Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: That_Guy on January 02, 2017, 11:17:18 AM
I'm telling you guys, after Clemson beats 'Bama for the title. Snyder then has given some thought and time into retiring and does so. Venables comes home.


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Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: KsuWildcatsXII on January 02, 2017, 11:17:43 AM

Omg, if only Wikipedia was a credible source. :love:


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I'm choosing to believe Venzy logged on and changed it himself this morning. Expecting a press conference this afternoon.
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: catastrophe on January 02, 2017, 11:18:53 AM
As Wikipedia goes, so goes reality is what I always say.
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: MadCat on January 02, 2017, 11:45:02 AM
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Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: GoodForAnother on January 02, 2017, 12:04:45 PM
After watching his cotton bowl pregame speech just now I'm now firmly on team Fleck
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: The Big Train on January 02, 2017, 12:06:11 PM
After watching his cotton bowl pregame speech just now I'm now firmly on team Fleck

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Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: That_Guy on January 02, 2017, 12:06:12 PM
It was changed back already. Maybe it changes after the Natty!?


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Post by: ascentofstan on January 02, 2017, 12:17:18 PM
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Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: GoodForAnother on January 02, 2017, 12:19:36 PM
Wow, BV is in Topeka!
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: The Big Train on January 02, 2017, 12:21:23 PM
 :Wha:
Title: It's Leavitt
Post by: Pete on January 02, 2017, 01:02:03 PM
Probably Forbes field then for a quick touch and go meeting at the Capital Plaza hotel, per usual process.
Title: It's Leavitt
Post by: That_Guy on January 02, 2017, 01:28:19 PM
Still sticking with my story that Snyder is announcing after title game and then Brent is coming home.
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: ChiComCat on January 02, 2017, 02:20:15 PM
Still sticking with my story that Snyder is announcing after title game and then Brent is coming home.

Would make Leavitt's contract clause super weird
Title: It's Leavitt
Post by: That_Guy on January 02, 2017, 02:35:43 PM
Still sticking with my story that Snyder is announcing after title game and then Brent is coming home.

Would make Leavitt's contract clause super weird

Nothing seems to surprise or amazing me anymore as a 'Cat fan honestly.


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Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: Katpappy on January 02, 2017, 03:50:35 PM
I guess Levitt would be a good HC for us; but goddamn he's ugly!  (http://goEMAW.com/forum/Smileys/goEMAW/Yuck.gif)
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: MakeItRain on January 03, 2017, 12:33:37 AM
After watching his cotton bowl pregame speech just now I'm now firmly on team Fleck

Where you been, brah?
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on January 03, 2017, 10:36:09 AM
Here's a post from an Oregon message board, they don't seem too worried about it.  Interesting that they think we would go after Rex Ryan if Snyder retires.  http://oregon.247sports.com/Board/45/Contents/The-contract-for-Jim-Leavitt-has-been-released-50103177

I appreciate they mentioned Rex's K-State ties.

I like that the highest paid coordinator in the Pac 12 has K-State as his dream job.

oh man, I had totally forgotten Ryan was our DC for a month.    ANother funny Ryan / KSU story

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Tannenbaum says there were two events last year that made him sure of what a genuine article he had in Ryan. The first was one of those early occasions in a relationship that, when looked back upon, seems of defining, if slightly inexplicable, importance. These being men, it involved a road trip and many hamburgers. Ryan, Tannenbaum, Schottenheimer and the quarterbacks coach, Matt Cavanaugh, were going to Kansas to scout a potential draft choice, Kansas State quarterback Josh Freeman. Ryan dutifully appeared wearing a dress shirt and crisp trousers, as he had for the many business dinners and events he attended since being hired. This time, Tannenbaum told his new coach: “Rex, he’s a draftable player. He has to impress us.” Ryan’s eyes grew big. He disappeared back into his office and re-emerged wearing a flowing garment which he referred to as “the dress sweats.” The four men jetted west, landed and got their rental car, a pick-up truck. Ryan drove, Tannenbaum rode shotgun, Schottenheimer and Cavanaugh sat knees to chest in back. Stories of the Plains were told by Ryan. Soon all four were dusty. Nobody minded. They watched Freeman throw and run. They were impressed, though not as much as they would be by Mark Sanchez of the University of Southern California. Then, on the way to the airport, Ryan suggested a visit to a Sonic Drive-In for some refreshments. Most of the items on the menu were ordered, including, for Ryan, a cup of limeade the size of Topeka. The truck shook. Nobody can say why. Possibly it was many men eating. The result was that Ryan’s cup began to spill. Freshets of limeade poured everywhere. “Oh, no!” Ryan cried. “The dress sweats!” It has become an iconic line, and every time those words occur to Tannenbaum, he feels happiness.
  http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/12/magazine/12ryan-t.html
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: MakeItRain on January 03, 2017, 01:14:06 PM
Guys watch this video, it is an amazing 10 minutes, though 4:45-5:10 is particularly hilarious. This guy is the best coaching candidate not currently a power five head coach and it isn't close. If he's available when we're looking for a coach and we don't get him I'm going to be pissed. Watch this video and tell me this isn't what you want our brand to be.

[youtube]https://youtu.be/eoz84KX61ro[/youtube]

Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: pissclams on January 03, 2017, 03:05:46 PM
the fleck-kill connection is an interesting one
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: PIPE on January 03, 2017, 03:12:41 PM
But Kill in no longer here, so that connection is lost......right?
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: kso_FAN on January 03, 2017, 03:15:15 PM
But Kill in no longer here, so that connection is lost......right?

Maybe. But the thought that Kill and Currie at some point discussed the future of K-State football post-Snyder is high and I'm sure Fleck was someone that Kill would have spoken very highly of.

I do like that he has many of the values that would seem to "fit" at K-State (granted, often an overrated part of coaching searches), but partially he has some "anti-Snyder" traits (in a good way) like the emotion that wouldn't be a bad thing to have in post-Snyder era.
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: pissclams on January 03, 2017, 03:26:42 PM
But Kill in no longer here, so that connection is lost......right?

is this a serious question?
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on January 03, 2017, 03:28:22 PM
But Kill in no longer here, so that connection is lost......right?

Do you really think Jerry Kill is going to pass up the opportunity to be the guy who John Currie consults with from a Dallas hotel room?
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: Katpappy on January 03, 2017, 03:30:43 PM
But Kill in no longer here, so that connection is lost......right?

Maybe. But the thought that Kill and Currie at some point discussed the future of K-State football post-Snyder is high and I'm sure Fleck was someone that Kill would have spoken very highly of.

I do like that he has many of the values that would seem to "fit" at K-State (granted, often an overrated part of coaching searches), but partially he has some "anti-Snyder" traits (in a good way) like the emotion that wouldn't be a bad thing to have in post-Snyder era.
I really enjoyed his take on having a winning team.  He says recruiting is  the highest priority and have kids buy into the system.  Or otherwise said: "Young men that want to be here and want to do the best they can". 
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: Trim on January 03, 2017, 04:13:17 PM
I think this is the first time I've seen Fleck.  Definitely the first time I've seen that jacket.
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: Shooter Jones on January 03, 2017, 04:19:03 PM
Fleck gonna go to Minny now.
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: MakeItRain on January 03, 2017, 05:41:12 PM
Fleck gonna go to Minny now.

Well, maybe. Here's where the Kill thing shows its head again. Claeys is a Kill protege and Minnesota clearly did him dirty. It makes no sense to fire a Kill protege after he won 9 games to hire another Kill protege.
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: BackPayne on January 04, 2017, 07:00:53 PM
https://twitter.com/KevinHaskin/status/816776432017965056
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: i poo crabs on January 04, 2017, 07:09:19 PM
how can you not like Leavitt after that article.  #1Cat

Venables is #1 on my wishlist.  However, if it's Leavitt, I'd still be pretty pumped
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: mocat on January 05, 2017, 07:50:27 AM
the venn diagram of football coaches vs human beings who find visors attractive is just one circle, with maybe a sliver left over for 1999 8th graders
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: CatsNShocks on January 05, 2017, 08:46:11 AM
Doesn't all of this force ADJC (or whomever it is at the time) to hire someone at least as good as Levitt? This can't be anything but a good thing for our Cats, right?
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Post by: yoga-like_abana on January 05, 2017, 09:21:12 AM
this is like when that girl that you kinda had a crush on ends up being way to overbearing and telling you too much/how much she likes you..
Its like hey, cool, let's be friends instead then..

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Post by: Shooter Jones on January 05, 2017, 10:44:10 AM
Fleck gonna go to Minny now.

Well, maybe. Here's where the Kill thing shows its head again. Claeys is a Kill protege and Minnesota clearly did him dirty. It makes no sense to fire a Kill protege after he won 9 games to hire another Kill protege.

Complete agree, it's a weird situation. They fire Claeys, then Kill talks crap on them, and now there are grumblings that Fleck to Minny is a done deal.
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: Dugout DickStone on January 05, 2017, 10:49:57 AM
So how quickly would JC hire Claeys if our HC job came open?  He fits every Currie criteria
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: Steffy08 on January 05, 2017, 10:57:10 AM
how can you not like Leavitt after that article.  #1Cat

Venables is #1 on my wishlist.  However, if it's Leavitt, I'd still be pretty pumped

This.

Like poster said, this getting out puts more heat on Currie not to hire some dipwad for the job.  God I just wish Currie would go to Georgia Tech or Texas or somewhere else.
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: MakeItRain on January 05, 2017, 12:23:37 PM
So how quickly would JC hire Claeys if our HC job came open?  He fits every Currie criteria

The reason he got fired from Minnesota would disqualify him from what the hive thinks Currie's agenda/criteria is. Claeys seems to be the Anti-oscar.
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: Panjandrum on January 05, 2017, 01:10:04 PM
Here is what I think while we watch Minnesota seemingly pick a new coach in a vacuum...

If some of the names thrown out there are really interested in the job, then we don't have anything to worry about.  Minnesota is not a great job.  They are about as far away from legitimate talent centers as you can conceivably be, and while they have some historical significance back in the leather helmet days, they haven't been a factor on the national stage in years.

Fun Facts:

Kansas State has been to more bowls historically.  We've been to 20, they've been to 19.  Their record is 7-12, ours is 8-12. 

Kansas State has been ranked in the AP poll more total weeks than Minnesota, historically (208 to 160).

BSFS has a larger stadium capacity than TCF Bank Stadium.

Minnesota hasn't won a conference title since 1967.

Kansas State is 2-1 vs. Minnesota all-time.  :D

Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: Dugout DickStone on January 05, 2017, 01:15:31 PM
So how quickly would JC hire Claeys if our HC job came open?  He fits every Currie criteria

The reason he got fired from Minnesota would disqualify him from what the hive thinks Currie's agenda/criteria is. Claeys seems to be the Anti-oscar.

I think he got fire for not being proven mediocre also...which Currie likes.
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on January 05, 2017, 01:27:07 PM
So how quickly would JC hire Claeys if our HC job came open?  He fits every Currie criteria
I have been in contact with some 'tucks who would love to have him.
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: catastrophe on January 05, 2017, 01:33:35 PM
Here is what I think while we watch Minnesota seemingly pick a new coach in a vacuum...

If some of the names thrown out there are really interested in the job, then we don't have anything to worry about.  Minnesota is not a great job.  They are about as far away from legitimate talent centers as you can conceivably be, and while they have some historical significance back in the leather helmet days, they haven't been a factor on the national stage in years.

Fun Facts:

Kansas State has been to more bowls historically.  We've been to 20, they've been to 19.  Their record is 7-12, ours is 8-12. 

Kansas State has been ranked in the AP poll more total weeks than Minnesota, historically (208 to 160).

BSFS has a larger stadium capacity than TCF Bank Stadium.

Minnesota hasn't won a conference title since 1967.

Kansas State is 2-1 vs. Minnesota all-time.  :D

I don't appreciate you saying disparaging things about Minnesota's program right before showing how similar they are to us (minus conference titles).
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: MakeItRain on January 05, 2017, 01:41:26 PM
So how quickly would JC hire Claeys if our HC job came open?  He fits every Currie criteria

The reason he got fired from Minnesota would disqualify him from what the hive thinks Currie's agenda/criteria is. Claeys seems to be the Anti-oscar.

I think he got fire for not being proven mediocre also...which Currie likes.

Well you'd be wrong, it's fine though.
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: Panjandrum on January 05, 2017, 01:42:50 PM
Here is what I think while we watch Minnesota seemingly pick a new coach in a vacuum...

If some of the names thrown out there are really interested in the job, then we don't have anything to worry about.  Minnesota is not a great job.  They are about as far away from legitimate talent centers as you can conceivably be, and while they have some historical significance back in the leather helmet days, they haven't been a factor on the national stage in years.

Fun Facts:

Kansas State has been to more bowls historically.  We've been to 20, they've been to 19.  Their record is 7-12, ours is 8-12. 

Kansas State has been ranked in the AP poll more total weeks than Minnesota, historically (208 to 160).

BSFS has a larger stadium capacity than TCF Bank Stadium.

Minnesota hasn't won a conference title since 1967.

Kansas State is 2-1 vs. Minnesota all-time.  :D

I don't appreciate you saying disparaging things about Minnesota's program right before showing how similar they are to us (minus conference titles).

I'm basically assuming everyone realizes that we started trying 25 years ago.  We condensed our success in 25 years while theirs goes back a century or more.
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: i poo crabs on January 05, 2017, 01:44:52 PM
If only Coney Durr had picked KSU.  He was our top CB target last year (that we had a shot of getting)

https://twitter.com/CD16ERA/status/816413714060611584
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: Dugout DickStone on January 05, 2017, 01:47:16 PM
So how quickly would JC hire Claeys if our HC job came open?  He fits every Currie criteria

The reason he got fired from Minnesota would disqualify him from what the hive thinks Currie's agenda/criteria is. Claeys seems to be the Anti-oscar.

I think he got fire for not being proven mediocre also...which Currie likes.

Well you'd be wrong, it's fine though.

I typed that like wack.  I meant he is very blah, and supported the players boycott.  I think the gophers wanted Fleck badly and will likely back up whatever brinks truck their frozen alumni have.
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on January 05, 2017, 01:51:03 PM
Claeys really didn't have the Minnesota job long enough to draw any conclusions, but 9 wins at Minnesota in his only full season there isn't bad at all.
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: Dugout DickStone on January 05, 2017, 01:55:02 PM
Claeys really didn't have the Minnesota job long enough to draw any conclusions, but 9 wins at Minnesota in his only full season there isn't bad at all.

His best win was like Northwestern or CSU.
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: MakeItRain on January 05, 2017, 01:56:22 PM
So how quickly would JC hire Claeys if our HC job came open?  He fits every Currie criteria

The reason he got fired from Minnesota would disqualify him from what the hive thinks Currie's agenda/criteria is. Claeys seems to be the Anti-oscar.

I think he got fire for not being proven mediocre also...which Currie likes.

Well you'd be wrong, it's fine though.

I typed that like wack.  I meant he is very blah, and supported the players boycott.  I think the gophers wanted Fleck badly and will likely back up whatever brinks truck their frozen alumni have.

That's fair. I trashed Claeys like 48 hours ago, it's probably more because of how he looks than how he coached.
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: Dugout DickStone on January 05, 2017, 01:58:20 PM
So how quickly would JC hire Claeys if our HC job came open?  He fits every Currie criteria

The reason he got fired from Minnesota would disqualify him from what the hive thinks Currie's agenda/criteria is. Claeys seems to be the Anti-oscar.

I think he got fire for not being proven mediocre also...which Currie likes.

Well you'd be wrong, it's fine though.

I typed that like wack.  I meant he is very blah, and supported the players boycott.  I think the gophers wanted Fleck badly and will likely back up whatever brinks truck their frozen alumni have.

That's fair. I trashed Claeys like 48 hours ago, it's probably more because of how he looks than how he coached.

When I look at him he is football Oscar without a national title game.  He checks almost every box
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on January 05, 2017, 02:01:56 PM
Claeys really didn't have the Minnesota job long enough to draw any conclusions, but 9 wins at Minnesota in his only full season there isn't bad at all.

His best win was like Northwestern or CSU.

If you don't count Washington State, sure. Still, he won 9 games in his first full season coaching the Minnesota Gophers. Firing him is weird. It's not like a Big 10 schedule is ever going to be difficult.
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: KITNfury on January 05, 2017, 02:20:07 PM
I think it's reasonable to compare Minnesota to us as far as attractiveness. We prolly carry a little more weight w/ our proximity and presence in TX (state champs and all).
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: Panjandrum on January 05, 2017, 02:27:17 PM
I think it's reasonable to compare Minnesota to us as far as attractiveness. We prolly carry a little more weight w/ our proximity and presence in TX (state champs and all).

I think my overall point is that we can probably expect to see a name like PJ Fleck if we had an opening.  It gives me some level of optimism.
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: Shooter Jones on January 05, 2017, 02:56:13 PM
Here is what I think while we watch Minnesota seemingly pick a new coach in a vacuum...

If some of the names thrown out there are really interested in the job, then we don't have anything to worry about.  Minnesota is not a great job.  They are about as far away from legitimate talent centers as you can conceivably be, and while they have some historical significance back in the leather helmet days, they haven't been a factor on the national stage in years.

Fun Facts:

Kansas State has been to more bowls historically.  We've been to 20, they've been to 19.  Their record is 7-12, ours is 8-12. 

Kansas State has been ranked in the AP poll more total weeks than Minnesota, historically (208 to 160).

BSFS has a larger stadium capacity than TCF Bank Stadium.

Minnesota hasn't won a conference title since 1967.

Kansas State is 2-1 vs. Minnesota all-time.  :D

I don't appreciate you saying disparaging things about Minnesota's program right before showing how similar they are to us (minus conference titles).

I'm basically assuming everyone realizes that we started trying 25 years ago.  We condensed our success in 25 years while theirs goes back a century or more.

THIS^

They have 7 "claimed" national championships but haven't done anything since Lyndon B Johnson was in fighting shape.

The turnaround story is cool and all, but there are many times I wish K-State had a few random good years with "claimed" natty's to put on our scoreboard instead of the Big Blog Best Pregame traditional "claim."
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on January 05, 2017, 02:58:32 PM
I appreciate K-State for having all of their success after I was born. It would be a lot harder to care about football as a Minnesota alum.
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Post by: KITNfury on January 06, 2017, 08:27:50 AM
PJ to Minny
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Post by: ChiComCat on January 06, 2017, 08:50:27 AM
We really missed out on the "claim your own title" era
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: chum1 on January 17, 2017, 06:29:17 AM
https://twitter.com/CoachJimLeavitt/status/821234578371346433
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Post by: Tobias on January 17, 2017, 07:31:15 AM
high on psi again
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Post by: pissclams on January 17, 2017, 08:56:52 AM
https://twitter.com/CoachJimLeavitt/status/821234578371346433

that tweet reads like one of ben-ji's dad's emails
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: Skipper44 on January 17, 2017, 09:36:47 AM
JL would totally get down on some snake venom
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: MadCat on January 17, 2017, 10:20:40 AM
Think JL had a hand in this?:
http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/18491292/three-oregon-ducks-football-players-hospitalized-strength-conditioning-workouts (http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/18491292/three-oregon-ducks-football-players-hospitalized-strength-conditioning-workouts)
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: Yard Dog on January 20, 2017, 11:56:05 AM
https://twitter.com/KevinHaskin/status/816776432017965056

Quote
Kansas State athletic director John Currie declined to comment.

^That's all I need to hear. It's Leavitt.
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: ChiComCat on February 01, 2017, 04:22:19 PM
Well this needs to be discussed:
http://www.espn.com/blog/ncfnation/post/_/id/136568/oregon-dc-jim-leavitt-excels-at-recruiting-and-laser-tag
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: yoga-like_abana on February 01, 2017, 04:25:08 PM
oh man.. now I kinda like him.
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: ChiComCat on February 01, 2017, 04:29:45 PM
If he's our next head coach, I'm opening a laser tag place. 
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: yoga-like_abana on February 01, 2017, 04:33:55 PM
he's basically barney Stinson
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Post by: TaqMan on February 01, 2017, 06:16:48 PM
Had no idea laser tag was even still a thing. Figured it died out after paintball came to be. I always wanted that badass rifle (when I was in maybe 8th grade).
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: jtksu on February 03, 2017, 11:35:35 AM
Had no idea laser tag was even still a thing. Figured it died out after paintball came to be. I always wanted that badass rifle (when I was in maybe 8th grade).

Lazer tag was the business in middle school.   Haven't really thought about it since.
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: deputy dawg on February 10, 2017, 08:18:03 AM
Anyone have any inside knowledge on the relationship between LHCBS and our new president, Gen. Meyers?  I think there's a train of thought that when Snyder came back to clean up the Prince mess, he had a gentleman's agreement that in exchange for his return, when he left again, Sean would be head coach.  That agreement was with Krause and Wefald, so the people representing K-State's end of that gentleman's agreement left, and Currie/Schultz would not honor that agreement.

Does Snyder have an inside track with Gen. Myers, and if he does, will it give him the inside track on naming his successor, whether it be Sean or Leavitt?
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: MakeItRain on February 10, 2017, 08:47:02 AM
Anyone have any inside knowledge on the relationship between LHCBS and our new president, Gen. Meyers?  I think there's a train of thought that when Snyder came back to clean up the Prince mess, he had a gentleman's agreement that in exchange for his return, when he left again, Sean would be head coach.  That agreement was with Krause and Wefald, so the people representing K-State's end of that gentleman's agreement left, and Currie/Schultz would not honor that agreement.

Does Snyder have an inside track with Gen. Myers, and if he does, will it give him the inside track on naming his successor, whether it be Sean or Leavitt?

Why would you think that? Sean has never expressed his desire to be the head coach here; publicly or apparently privately.
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: Steffy08 on February 10, 2017, 09:07:47 AM
Anyone have any inside knowledge on the relationship between LHCBS and our new president, Gen. Meyers?  I think there's a train of thought that when Snyder came back to clean up the Prince mess, he had a gentleman's agreement that in exchange for his return, when he left again, Sean would be head coach.  That agreement was with Krause and Wefald, so the people representing K-State's end of that gentleman's agreement left, and Currie/Schultz would not honor that agreement.

Does Snyder have an inside track with Gen. Myers, and if he does, will it give him the inside track on naming his successor, whether it be Sean or Leavitt?

General Myers is a LHC Bill Snyder type of guy....not a dork like Schultz and Currie.  Regardless of who the successor to Snyder is, the big boys (Myers and Snyder) will make the decision.  Currie hiring Weber sealed his fate.
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: deputy dawg on February 10, 2017, 09:31:40 AM
Anyone have any inside knowledge on the relationship between LHCBS and our new president, Gen. Meyers?  I think there's a train of thought that when Snyder came back to clean up the Prince mess, he had a gentleman's agreement that in exchange for his return, when he left again, Sean would be head coach.  That agreement was with Krause and Wefald, so the people representing K-State's end of that gentleman's agreement left, and Currie/Schultz would not honor that agreement.

Does Snyder have an inside track with Gen. Myers, and if he does, will it give him the inside track on naming his successor, whether it be Sean or Leavitt?

Why would you think that? Sean has never expressed his desire to be the head coach here; publicly or apparently privately.

Don't know what preference Sean has expressed, but it's widely believed that LHCBS wants Sean to succeed him as head coach.  It's also widely believed that Snyder was shot down when he wanted to bring Leavitt back to K-State. 
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: MakeItRain on February 10, 2017, 09:34:39 AM
Anyone have any inside knowledge on the relationship between LHCBS and our new president, Gen. Meyers?  I think there's a train of thought that when Snyder came back to clean up the Prince mess, he had a gentleman's agreement that in exchange for his return, when he left again, Sean would be head coach.  That agreement was with Krause and Wefald, so the people representing K-State's end of that gentleman's agreement left, and Currie/Schultz would not honor that agreement.

Does Snyder have an inside track with Gen. Myers, and if he does, will it give him the inside track on naming his successor, whether it be Sean or Leavitt?

Why would you think that? Sean has never expressed his desire to be the head coach here; publicly or apparently privately.

Don't know what preference Sean has expressed, but it's widely believed that LHCBS wants Sean to succeed him as head coach.  It's also widely believed that Snyder was shot down when he wanted to bring Leavitt back to K-State.

If they cared enough to make this deal don't you think they would have ensured the purple they left the program to shared that same belief?
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: Dugout DickStone on February 10, 2017, 09:45:09 AM
I don't think they had to bribe bill to come back.  I think he asked.
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: steve dave on February 10, 2017, 09:46:30 AM
I don't think they had to bribe bill to come back.  I think he asked.

Fact
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: deputy dawg on February 10, 2017, 09:50:04 AM
I don't think they had to bribe bill to come back.  I think he asked.

Quid pro quo is not a bribe. 
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: kslim on February 10, 2017, 09:50:56 AM
Anyone have any inside knowledge on the relationship between LHCBS and our new president, Gen. Meyers?  I think there's a train of thought that when Snyder came back to clean up the Prince mess, he had a gentleman's agreement that in exchange for his return, when he left again, Sean would be head coach.  That agreement was with Krause and Wefald, so the people representing K-State's end of that gentleman's agreement left, and Currie/Schultz would not honor that agreement.

Does Snyder have an inside track with Gen. Myers, and if he does, will it give him the inside track on naming his successor, whether it be Sean or Leavitt?

Why would you think that? Sean has never expressed his desire to be the head coach here; publicly or apparently privately.

Don't know what preference Sean has expressed, but it's widely believed that LHCBS wants Sean to succeed him as head coach.  It's also widely believed that Snyder was shot down when he wanted to bring Leavitt back to K-State.

If they cared enough to make this deal don't you think they would have ensured the purple they left the program to shared that same belief?
not only that but i believe sean has stated that he doesnt want the job, I could be wrong on that but im pretty sure thats what he said
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: Dugout DickStone on February 10, 2017, 10:03:02 AM
I don't think they had to bribe bill to come back.  I think he asked.

Quid pro quo is not a bribe.

He would have taken the job whether they said Sean was the next HC or not.  He would have done it for less green too
Title: It's Leavitt
Post by: Pete on February 10, 2017, 11:46:17 AM
I don't think they had to bribe bill to come back.  I think he asked.

Quid pro quo is not a bribe.

He would have taken the job whether they said Sean was the next HC or not.  He would have done it for less green too


Agreed.  But, I also bet they (Krause, Weefs) told him "sure" when he said he'd like Sean to take over someday. I mean, that's EXACTLY like all three of those guys to say crap like that an just spit on their hands and shake on it.
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: sonofdaxjones on February 10, 2017, 12:54:03 PM
I don't think they had to bribe bill to come back.  I think he asked.

Quid pro quo is not a bribe.

He would have taken the job whether they said Sean was the next HC or not.  He would have done it for less green too


Agreed.  But, I also bet they (Krause, Weefs) told him "sure" when he said he'd like Sean to take over someday. I mean, that's EXACTLY like all three of those guys to say crap like that an just spit on their hands and shake on it.

Friend, I firmly believe that EMAW Stud (except for one dumb mistake) Bob Krause (RIP Bob) had Gary Patterson hired, and was completely blind sided by the Weef and Snyder. 
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: bws on February 10, 2017, 02:18:18 PM
I don't think they had to bribe bill to come back.  I think he asked.

Quid pro quo is not a bribe.

He would have taken the job whether they said Sean was the next HC or not.  He would have done it for less green too


Agreed.  But, I also bet they (Krause, Weefs) told him "sure" when he said he'd like Sean to take over someday. I mean, that's EXACTLY like all three of those guys to say crap like that an just spit on their hands and shake on it.

Friend, I firmly believe that EMAW Stud (except for one dumb mistake) Bob Krause (RIP Bob) had Gary Patterson hired, and was completely blind sided by the Weef and Snyder.

Its an absolute fact that Krause was talking to a third party representative (a former NFL and KSU assistant and friend) of Gary Patterson about the K-State job before it was blown up by the "Its Patterson" fiasco which pissed off patterson and caused him to withdraw as they were undefeated at the time. It wasn't 100% he would take the job but he was very interested, it was just early november. Fortunately they had been talking to Snyder as well and he came back and saved us.

In regards to present day, what i've heard, and i think its been mentioned on here, is that Snyder doesn't trust currie to pick the coach. I think hes worried about what happened with the Ron Prince hire and wants to make sure one of his guys gets hired, or he has significant input on who gets hired. I was told (and this is second hand) that Schulz and Currie told snyder Sean wasn't ever going to be a candidate  a couple years ago. That's why he doesn't mention it in public as much as used too.
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: SdK on February 10, 2017, 02:35:10 PM
Anyone opposed to Snyder being on the interview panel? I think it would help the new coach to have that seal of approval with the fanbase.
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: Shooter Jones on February 10, 2017, 02:40:06 PM
Quote from: GPC
Dating back to December, I have been aware of some health concerns for Coach LHC Bill Snyder. I have not felt comfortable releasing this information until Coach Snyder chooses to do so himself. Now, speculation surrounding Snyder's health is becoming public and I will address this topic solely for the purpose of quieting false speculation.

Recently Kansas State coach LHC Bill Snyder has been receiving treatment at a Kansas City medical facility for a serious, but very treatable health issue that GPC is choosing to not identify at this time. Snyder is currently taking some time off to address his health, but is expected to coach next season for Kansas State. As of this writing, there are no plans for Snyder to retire or for a successor as K-State's head football coach to be named.

Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: Tobias on February 10, 2017, 03:06:50 PM
ingrown toenail?
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: kslim on February 10, 2017, 03:07:50 PM
poop hole
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: Ptolemy on February 10, 2017, 03:09:59 PM
Anal fistula?
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: ben ji on February 10, 2017, 03:21:55 PM
The C word  :frown:
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: BackPayne on February 10, 2017, 03:23:50 PM
The C word  :frown:

He has a case of the crazies?! crap!
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: sys on February 10, 2017, 03:26:23 PM
thank goodness he's planning to be back next year.  it'd be understandable if he wasn't, but thank goodness he is.
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: Catchup on February 10, 2017, 03:35:34 PM
The C word  :frown:

He has a case of the crazies?! crap!

No, he has a case of the craps! Crazy!
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: star seed 7 on February 10, 2017, 04:16:04 PM
thank goodness he's planning to be back next year.  it'd be understandable if he wasn't, but thank goodness he is.

Really loves this family
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: sonofdaxjones on February 10, 2017, 04:43:51 PM
thank goodness he's planning to be back next year.  it'd be understandable if he wasn't, but thank goodness he is.

Really loves this family

Um-hm, GWSHCBS!!
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: WildcatPower on February 10, 2017, 05:16:59 PM
Anyone opposed to Snyder being on the interview panel? I think it would help the new coach to have that seal of approval with the fanbase.

I'm not opposed. I can't quite trust Currie to make the right hire. Other than the fund raising and getting donations, he has excelled superbly on that regard. But as far as making an important hire for coaches? Other than the women's basketball coach, his track record isn't stellar.
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: CHONGS on February 10, 2017, 07:13:22 PM
I think the AD should make the next  hire.  He can choose to listen to advice from Bill, but it should be 100% Curries call.  Otherwise why even have an AD.
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: wetwillie on February 10, 2017, 07:27:22 PM
I think the AD should make the next  hire.  He can choose to listen to advice from Bill, but it should be 100% Curries call.  Otherwise why even have an AD.

To raise boat loads of cash and oversee the buildings the cash builds.
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: Ptolemy on February 10, 2017, 07:30:14 PM
I think the AD should make the next  hire.  He can choose to listen to advice from Bill, but it should be 100% Curries call.  Otherwise why even have an AD.

Who declares that AD's hire coaches? Most NFL teams traditionally have hired GM's who them hired head coaches. The Chiefs changed that up with the Andy Reid hire who then suggested to the owner that John Dorsey be hired as GM. The team president handles all the financial stuff.

There is NO WAY John Currie should make the head coach hire.
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: The Big Train on February 10, 2017, 07:39:15 PM
I wouldn't take chings seriously
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: CHONGS on February 10, 2017, 07:41:26 PM
He must.  Who would the next head coach answer to?  If he can't hire a head coach, how can he fire one?

If you want to eliminate the athletic department entirety then that's another matter.
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: CHONGS on February 10, 2017, 07:43:51 PM
In my opinion, the head football coach at KSU isn't some dynastic position where he gets to choose his successor without oversight.
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: Pete on February 11, 2017, 12:19:26 AM
I think the AD should make the next  hire.  He can choose to listen to advice from Bill, but it should be 100% Curries call.  Otherwise why even have an AD.


Fund raising, non-football scheduling, parking logistics, game day programs, and concessions management.
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: MakeItRain on February 11, 2017, 12:39:02 AM
Anyone opposed to Snyder being on the interview panel? I think it would help the new coach to have that seal of approval with the fanbase.

I'm opposed. He wants his son who wants no part of the job to coach, his judgement is highly questionable.
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 11, 2017, 12:48:02 AM
It's well known Sean doesn't want to touch it. Not sure why everyone thinks Snyder is senile all of a sudden w/ a 79 year olds normal complications. He's obviously planning a few things behind the scenes (regardless), but I'm 99% sure Sean isn't part of it minus keeping an assistant job if crap hits the fan.
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 11, 2017, 01:00:15 AM
Which is well deserved as a special teams coach. Dude has done well. I'll eat my 20 year old k-state hat live on FB if he's ever named HC. It will never happen, guys!
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: That_Guy on February 11, 2017, 02:03:27 AM
Which is well deserved as a special teams coach. Dude has done well. I'll eat my 20 year old k-state hat live on FB if he's ever named HC. It will never happen, guys!

Would watch.


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Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: SdK on February 11, 2017, 02:42:29 AM
Anyone opposed to Snyder being on the interview panel? I think it would help the new coach to have that seal of approval with the fanbase.

I'm opposed. He wants his son who wants no part of the job to coach, his judgement is highly questionable.
It's a panel. Not Bill making the choice alone. I wouldn't want Bill alone to make the call.
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: The Big Train on February 11, 2017, 05:40:37 AM
Which is well deserved as a special teams coach. Dude has done well. I'll eat my 20 year old k-state hat live on FB if he's ever named HC. It will never happen, guys!

Don't you already have to eat it for something else?  Or was the CF3?
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: scottwildcat on February 11, 2017, 08:20:07 AM
Anyone opposed to Snyder being on the interview panel? I think it would help the new coach to have that seal of approval with the fanbase.

I'm opposed. He wants his son who wants no part of the job to coach, his judgement is highly questionable.
It's a panel. Not Bill making the choice alone. I wouldn't want Bill alone to make the call.
Yes, but anyone as openly biased as Bill wouldn't be going into it as open minded trying to find the best guy for the job.
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: SdK on February 11, 2017, 10:02:06 AM
Fair enough. I guess I'm still holding out hope that Bill isn't pushing for Sean and it's all just gEing.
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 11, 2017, 10:46:47 AM
Which is well deserved as a special teams coach. Dude has done well. I'll eat my 20 year old k-state hat live on FB if he's ever named HC. It will never happen, guys!

Don't you already have to eat it for something else?  Or was the CF3?
No. I won that prediction too. Hat is currently safe wherever Mrs. Wacky hid it.
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: Dugout DickStone on February 12, 2017, 10:33:39 AM
Which is well deserved as a special teams coach. Dude has done well. I'll eat my 20 year old k-state hat live on FB if he's ever named HC. It will never happen, guys!

Don't you already have to eat it for something else?  Or was the CF3?
No. I won that prediction too. Hat is currently safe wherever Mrs. Wacky hid it.

so beta
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 12, 2017, 03:28:28 PM
I should put my woman in line, like a real man!
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: SdK on February 12, 2017, 07:43:43 PM
No Wacky. She is your equal. She is your peer. She is not an object or a possession. She does not belong to you. She chooses you everyday. That is a thing of beauty. Don't ruin it with abuse.
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: Bqqkie Pimp on February 13, 2017, 06:21:29 PM
 :runaway: :runaway: :runaway: :runaway: :runaway:

https://twitter.com/HuskyJw/status/831210774215340036
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: Jackstack99EMAW on February 13, 2017, 06:26:15 PM
:runaway: :runaway: :runaway: :runaway: :runaway:

https://twitter.com/HuskyJw/status/831210774215340036
Probably the same situation as the SDSU coach, probably giving best wishes and talking to AD.  Now if Venzy visits, that's really interesting.
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: everyone shut up on February 13, 2017, 06:29:56 PM
Leavitt would be a super safe hire for 'ol Currdog
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: Bqqkie Pimp on February 13, 2017, 06:30:44 PM
More likely that the "Husky" fan was trying to troll some Oregon folks and caught some K-Stater's in the crossfire.

Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: Jackstack99EMAW on February 13, 2017, 06:32:52 PM
Really wouldn't surprise me if he were tho.
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: deputy dawg on February 22, 2017, 11:47:40 AM
Sorry if this has already been discussed, but has Lincoln Riley shown up on KSU's radar?
http://sportsday.dallasnews.com/college-sports/oklahomasooners/2017/02/21/espn-expect-oklahoma-oc-lincoln-riley-coordinator-much-longer
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: kslim on February 22, 2017, 11:54:46 AM
Sorry if this has already been discussed, but has Lincoln Riley shown up on KSU's radar?
http://sportsday.dallasnews.com/college-sports/oklahomasooners/2017/02/21/espn-expect-oklahoma-oc-lincoln-riley-coordinator-much-longer
so like briles son minus the rape stuff?

wouldnt be my first call but probably would take
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: jtksu on February 22, 2017, 10:36:29 PM
Sorry if this has already been discussed, but has Lincoln Riley shown up on KSU's radar?
http://sportsday.dallasnews.com/college-sports/oklahomasooners/2017/02/21/espn-expect-oklahoma-oc-lincoln-riley-coordinator-much-longer
so like briles son minus the rape stuff?

wouldnt be my first call but probably would take

Would be kinda neat to steal him from OU.   Especially if he turns out to be a good hire.
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on February 23, 2017, 08:54:49 AM
I think he'll be at Tech in 2018.
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: Pete on February 23, 2017, 09:10:02 AM
I think he'll be at Tech in 2018.


Tech might be inclined to stay away from a young unproven HC after what they just went through.  Who knows though.
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: Dugout DickStone on February 23, 2017, 09:39:58 AM
the smoke to fire ratio here is Jim Cattey level right now
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: Skipper44 on February 23, 2017, 02:45:29 PM
I think he'll be at Tech in 2018.


Tech might be inclined to stay away from a young unproven HC after what they just went through.  Who knows though.
Sonny Dykes seems like the pick up the pieces hire if Kliff goes down in flames
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: 'taterblast on June 26, 2017, 05:46:32 PM
https://twitter.com/CoachJimLeavitt/status/879470269580034048
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: SkinnyBenny on June 26, 2017, 06:27:15 PM
...Sofia is his granddaughter, right? Or is he one of those weird old guys with a young kid? :sdeek:
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: scottwildcat on June 27, 2017, 07:45:11 AM
http://www.goducks.com/coaches.aspx?rc=1518

Quote from: GoDucks.com
Leavitt is married to Jody Leavitt and has three daughters, Deandre, Sofia and Isabella.
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 27, 2017, 08:18:09 AM
...Sofia is his granddaughter, right? Or is he one of those weird old guys with a young kid? :sdeek:
What a stupid thing to care about
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: meow meow on June 27, 2017, 08:18:56 AM
(bless her heart)
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: 'taterblast on February 06, 2018, 01:26:56 PM
https://twitter.com/CoachJimLeavitt/status/960524361772949505

https://twitter.com/CoachJimLeavitt/status/960607194885496832

https://twitter.com/CoachJimLeavitt/status/960957216521052160
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on February 06, 2018, 01:28:13 PM
Jim just doesn't have the willpower necessary to coach at KSU.
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 06, 2018, 01:35:32 PM
 :love: #YOLO
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: chum1 on February 06, 2018, 01:50:15 PM
 :lol:
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: meow meow on February 06, 2018, 01:51:29 PM
Is Pepsi paying this man yet?
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: CHONGS on February 06, 2018, 01:59:48 PM
Live look in at the exact moment he realized he can't live without his pepsi:

(https://woolandhoney.files.wordpress.com/2014/12/img_2281.jpg)
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: DQ12 on February 06, 2018, 02:01:44 PM
Man I love his weirdo pepsi thing. 
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: ChiComCat on February 06, 2018, 02:22:21 PM
Live look in at the exact moment he realized he can't live without his pepsi:

(https://woolandhoney.files.wordpress.com/2014/12/img_2281.jpg)
I think I like this comparison better than the club cover
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: mocat on February 06, 2018, 03:24:04 PM
 :lol:
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: michigancat on February 06, 2018, 03:27:10 PM
Man I love his weirdo pepsi thing. 

it's great
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: yoga-like_abana on February 06, 2018, 03:40:56 PM
adorable
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: GoodForAnother on February 08, 2018, 06:51:30 PM
Man I love his weirdo pepsi thing.

His twitter Pepsi obsession has almost entirely sold me on him being our next coach. I honestly want him more than venzy
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: Katpappy on February 09, 2018, 03:35:39 AM
Man I love his weirdo pepsi thing.

His twitter Pepsi obsession has almost entirely sold me on him being our next coach. I honestly want him more than venzy
High costs for translator thou.  :horrorsurprise:
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: DQ12 on February 09, 2018, 08:24:57 AM
he's just the wackiest guy on twitter.  i'm sure it's a persona to some extent, but I like to imagine that he's IRL like the guy he is on twitter.  just living and breathing duck football and pepsi 24/7.  anytime i see i pepsi i just want to let out a big GO DUCKS!


Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: Joker on February 09, 2018, 10:22:35 AM
I can't even remember the last time I had a Pepsi but this dude makes me want to have one.  PepsiCo needs to compensate the man if they aren't already.
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: wetwillie on February 09, 2018, 10:49:13 AM
I don't trust anyone that drinks Pepsi
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: catastrophe on February 09, 2018, 12:48:50 PM
It's almost like, there is no way Oregon is working on any kind of a Pepsi sponsorship because Leavitt would be much more subtle about it.  He actually sounds a lot like that one friend on facebook who just constantly posts those kind of "omg, I'm so silly and just love this [thing]".
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 09, 2018, 06:24:44 PM
Holy crap, guys!  :love:

https://twitter.com/coachjimleavitt/status/962119608470663168
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: steve dave on February 09, 2018, 06:45:44 PM
I love it


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Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: GregKSU1027 on February 09, 2018, 07:01:34 PM
I don't trust anyone that drinks Pepsi
But kstate is a Pepsi school...

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Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: wetwillie on February 09, 2018, 07:05:06 PM
I don't trust anyone that drinks Pepsi
But kstate is a Pepsi school...

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We're a oscar Weber school too
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: Tobias on February 09, 2018, 07:06:22 PM
smack thwarted
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: SkinnyBenny on February 10, 2018, 09:18:25 AM
Go Ducks!
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 13, 2018, 01:17:54 PM
https://twitter.com/CoachJimLeavitt/status/984853693009821696
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: chum1 on April 13, 2018, 01:19:17 PM
dog on  :love:
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: Shooter Jones on April 13, 2018, 01:53:43 PM
lol
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: michigancat on April 13, 2018, 01:54:11 PM
dog on  :love:

:D
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on April 13, 2018, 02:57:26 PM
Diabetes is going to destroy that man.
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: Tobias on April 15, 2018, 02:34:06 AM
can hardly feel my toes /beetus
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on April 16, 2018, 09:10:11 AM
https://twitter.com/coachjimleavitt/status/985675959125749760?s=21
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: cat.branchman on April 16, 2018, 01:06:56 PM
Judging by his furniture, he’s ready to pick up and move to manhattan at any time.
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: wetwillie on April 16, 2018, 09:05:08 PM
Hard to believe that guy choked out his player. Maybe he was standing between levitt and the last can of Pepsi at the practice field.
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on April 16, 2018, 09:29:50 PM
He probably brought cokes to Jim’s bbq.
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: Stevesie60 on April 20, 2018, 10:05:07 AM
smack thwarted

lol
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: slackcat on April 20, 2018, 11:05:55 AM
Small hands
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: MadCat on April 24, 2018, 11:35:41 AM
I hope that guy is getting paid for his endorsements.
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: kslim on April 25, 2018, 07:57:04 AM
smack thwarted

lol
yeah, this was great posting
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 01, 2018, 08:35:04 AM
https://twitter.com/hakiwoods/status/1024488589000724480
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: MadCat on August 01, 2018, 09:07:53 AM
There was a can of Pepsi at the bottom of that pool.
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: slackcat on August 01, 2018, 11:58:44 AM
Didn't see a splash.
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: catastrophe on August 01, 2018, 12:33:21 PM
That is what you call top notch technique.
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: KITNfury on August 01, 2018, 03:15:10 PM
That is what you call top notch technique.
Or a gruesome suicide
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: manpow5 on February 13, 2019, 06:29:16 PM
https://twitter.com/MattPrehm/status/1095837764224839680?s=19
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: SteelCat on February 13, 2019, 06:31:15 PM
Stoops is getting the gang back together in Dallas! :ROFL:
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: steve dave on February 13, 2019, 06:56:13 PM
Holy


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Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: WildcatNkilt on February 13, 2019, 09:53:00 PM
 :cry:  K-State saying no to him is making him give up college football all together? 
Title: Re: It's Leavitt
Post by: MakeItRain on February 14, 2019, 12:49:41 AM
"Moving on," lol
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