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General Discussion => The New Joe Montgomery Birther Pit => Topic started by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on December 11, 2015, 08:23:16 AM
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Blaming ill-advised policy on [highly regulated] exorbitant profits [of companies this idiot owns in his 401k
The lone health insurance cooperative to make money last year on the Affordable Care Act's public insurance exchanges is now losing millions and cutting off individual enrollment for 2016.
Maine's Community Health Options lost more than $17 million in the first nine months of this year, after making $10.9 million in the same period last year. A spokesman said higher-than-expected medical costs have hurt the cooperative.
The announcement casts further doubt on the future of insurance cooperatives, small nonprofit insurers that were created during the ACA's creation to inject competition in insurance markets. These co-ops immediately struggled to build their businesses. A dozen of the 23 created have already folded.
An Associated Press review of financial statements from 10 of the 11 surviving co-ops shows that they lost, on average, more than $21 million in the first nine months of the year. Those losses range from $3.9 million reported by Maryland's Evergreen Health Cooperative to $50.7 million booked by Land of Lincoln Mutual Health Insurance Company in Illinois.
"Clearly the remaining health care co-ops are in dire circumstances," said Robert Laszewski, a health care consultant and former insurance executive who has been a frequent critic of the Affordable Care Act. "I don't know how any of them can survive another year."
You mean a plan with no price controls was ineffective in mitigating cost? eff, who knew that health care conglomos, pharma companies, and insurance companies wouldn't voluntarily make their exorbitant profits a lower priority to help the American public? SHOCKED, STUNNED
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This one was fabulous on a couple levels. Global warming :shakesfist:
http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/07/asia/china-beijing-pollution-red-alert/ (http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/07/asia/china-beijing-pollution-red-alert/)
Does this play into the natural warming/cooling cycles of the planet?
Regresocon utopia.
My cousin lives there and has told me the air he breaths daily is equal to smoking 2 packs a day. Amazing that regresocons want that for the US
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This one was marginally more substantive than the usual :lol:, but still demonstrates an ignorance and lunacy common in most libtarded posts
Regresocons def want to abort the epa (and fda), not sure how you can deny that with a straight face
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Yeah, it's amazing that people aren't seriously discussing payments to people based upon alleged wrongs to their alleged ancestors that allegedly caused them to be in whatever position they've put themselves in today; particularly under the current social welfare state
I also think reparations are a fascinating subject that isn't discussed frequently or seriously enough. Props to dsouza for at least engaging in a conversation about it.
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Yeah, it's amazing that people aren't seriously discussing payments to people based upon alleged wrongs to their alleged ancestors that allegedly caused them to be in whatever position they've put themselves in today; particularly under the current social welfare state
I also think reparations are a fascinating subject that isn't discussed frequently or seriously enough. Props to dsouza for at least engaging in a conversation about it.
When you look at it as "proven, quantifiable wrongs created by our government" instead of "alleged wrongs", the perspective changes a bit. Society mumped minorities over, society should do its best to make it right.
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Yeah, it's amazing that people aren't seriously discussing payments to people based upon alleged wrongs to their alleged ancestors that allegedly caused them to be in whatever position they've put themselves in today; particularly under the current social welfare state
I also think reparations are a fascinating subject that isn't discussed frequently or seriously enough. Props to dsouza for at least engaging in a conversation about it.
When you look at it as "proven, quantifiable wrongs created by our government" instead of "alleged wrongs", the perspective changes a bit. Society mumped minorities over, society should do its best to make it right.
Thank you for contributing to this thread. The idea of awarding conjectural damages to a demographic based upon ancestral grievances is hilariously libtarded.
It's done wonders for the Indian population
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it always tickles me when pit'rs think 'libtard' is somehow clever
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The characterization of liberal is applied to people EXTREMELY liberally.
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probably gonna start calling fsd and his ilk "re-pube-lickins" since it's equally clever
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Captain White Guilt aka cRusty is fantastically entertaining.
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it always tickles me when pit'rs think 'libtard' is somehow clever
Clever? It just seems appropriate.
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probably gonna start calling fsd and his ilk "re-pube-lickins" since it's equally clever
This is a good one, thanks. Good amounts of butthurt and irrational behavior.
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What a great idea for a thread, btw. It's a libtard HOF.
I nominate this one:
Since C02 isn't an issue, maybe our resident necons will seal themselves in a room and open a few tanks.
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Oh man, do you remember Rusty busting out "per capita"? :lol: Really, that whole thread belongs in the libtard HOF for all the different excuses for American Exceptionalism, but if I had to boil it down to just one post:
For starters, we significantly outpace all other countries in terms of combined private charitable giving and public humanitarian aid.
link? on a per capita basis, we most definitely do not outpace other countries' public humanitarian aid.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_governments_by_development_aid
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Yeah, it's amazing that people aren't seriously discussing payments to people based upon alleged wrongs to their alleged ancestors that allegedly caused them to be in whatever position they've put themselves in today; particularly under the current social welfare state
I also think reparations are a fascinating subject that isn't discussed frequently or seriously enough. Props to dsouza for at least engaging in a conversation about it.
When you look at it as "proven, quantifiable wrongs created by our government" instead of "alleged wrongs", the perspective changes a bit. Society mumped minorities over, society should do its best to make it right.
ohh do i get some too?
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Yeah, it's amazing that people aren't seriously discussing payments to people based upon alleged wrongs to their alleged ancestors that allegedly caused them to be in whatever position they've put themselves in today; particularly under the current social welfare state
I also think reparations are a fascinating subject that isn't discussed frequently or seriously enough. Props to dsouza for at least engaging in a conversation about it.
When you look at it as "proven, quantifiable wrongs created by our government" instead of "alleged wrongs", the perspective changes a bit. Society mumped minorities over, society should do its best to make it right.
ohh do i get some too?
I don't know
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Blaming ill-advised policy on [highly regulated] exorbitant profits [of companies this idiot owns in his 401k
The lone health insurance cooperative to make money last year on the Affordable Care Act's public insurance exchanges is now losing millions and cutting off individual enrollment for 2016.
Maine's Community Health Options lost more than $17 million in the first nine months of this year, after making $10.9 million in the same period last year. A spokesman said higher-than-expected medical costs have hurt the cooperative.
The announcement casts further doubt on the future of insurance cooperatives, small nonprofit insurers that were created during the ACA's creation to inject competition in insurance markets. These co-ops immediately struggled to build their businesses. A dozen of the 23 created have already folded.
An Associated Press review of financial statements from 10 of the 11 surviving co-ops shows that they lost, on average, more than $21 million in the first nine months of the year. Those losses range from $3.9 million reported by Maryland's Evergreen Health Cooperative to $50.7 million booked by Land of Lincoln Mutual Health Insurance Company in Illinois.
"Clearly the remaining health care co-ops are in dire circumstances," said Robert Laszewski, a health care consultant and former insurance executive who has been a frequent critic of the Affordable Care Act. "I don't know how any of them can survive another year."
You mean a plan with no price controls was ineffective in mitigating cost? eff, who knew that health care conglomos, pharma companies, and insurance companies wouldn't voluntarily make their exorbitant profits a lower priority to help the American public? SHOCKED, STUNNED
Sorry for taking the ultra liberal view of hating the signature legislation of a 2 term democrat president.
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Blaming ill-advised policy on [highly regulated] exorbitant profits [of companies this idiot owns in his 401k
The lone health insurance cooperative to make money last year on the Affordable Care Act's public insurance exchanges is now losing millions and cutting off individual enrollment for 2016.
Maine's Community Health Options lost more than $17 million in the first nine months of this year, after making $10.9 million in the same period last year. A spokesman said higher-than-expected medical costs have hurt the cooperative.
The announcement casts further doubt on the future of insurance cooperatives, small nonprofit insurers that were created during the ACA's creation to inject competition in insurance markets. These co-ops immediately struggled to build their businesses. A dozen of the 23 created have already folded.
An Associated Press review of financial statements from 10 of the 11 surviving co-ops shows that they lost, on average, more than $21 million in the first nine months of the year. Those losses range from $3.9 million reported by Maryland's Evergreen Health Cooperative to $50.7 million booked by Land of Lincoln Mutual Health Insurance Company in Illinois.
"Clearly the remaining health care co-ops are in dire circumstances," said Robert Laszewski, a health care consultant and former insurance executive who has been a frequent critic of the Affordable Care Act. "I don't know how any of them can survive another year."
You mean a plan with no price controls was ineffective in mitigating cost? eff, who knew that health care conglomos, pharma companies, and insurance companies wouldn't voluntarily make their exorbitant profits a lower priority to help the American public? SHOCKED, STUNNED
Sorry for taking the ultra liberal view of hating the signature legislation of a 2 term democrat president.
As soon as we have a master libtard deflection thread, you can put this there. K, thx
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Yeah, it's amazing that people aren't seriously discussing payments to people based upon alleged wrongs to their alleged ancestors that allegedly caused them to be in whatever position they've put themselves in today; particularly under the current social welfare state
I also think reparations are a fascinating subject that isn't discussed frequently or seriously enough. Props to dsouza for at least engaging in a conversation about it.
When you look at it as "proven, quantifiable wrongs created by our government" instead of "alleged wrongs", the perspective changes a bit. Society mumped minorities over, society should do its best to make it right.
ohh do i get some too?
I don't know
chinese and japanese had it pretty terrible. it's a miracle that east asians became the top minority group. but i guess people are built differently.
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Yeah, it's amazing that people aren't seriously discussing payments to people based upon alleged wrongs to their alleged ancestors that allegedly caused them to be in whatever position they've put themselves in today; particularly under the current social welfare state
I also think reparations are a fascinating subject that isn't discussed frequently or seriously enough. Props to dsouza for at least engaging in a conversation about it.
When you look at it as "proven, quantifiable wrongs created by our government" instead of "alleged wrongs", the perspective changes a bit. Society mumped minorities over, society should do its best to make it right.
ohh do i get some too?
I don't know
chinese and japanese had it pretty terrible. it's a miracle that east asians became the top minority group. but i guess people are built differently.
Yeah, but I don't know when your family came over.
I think the fact that most Chinese immigrants came after 1980 makes your claim a bit less of a miracle. Also, you should rank all the minority groups.
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Japanese got reparations for internment.
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Yeah, it's amazing that people aren't seriously discussing payments to people based upon alleged wrongs to their alleged ancestors that allegedly caused them to be in whatever position they've put themselves in today; particularly under the current social welfare state
I also think reparations are a fascinating subject that isn't discussed frequently or seriously enough. Props to dsouza for at least engaging in a conversation about it.
When you look at it as "proven, quantifiable wrongs created by our government" instead of "alleged wrongs", the perspective changes a bit. Society mumped minorities over, society should do its best to make it right.
ohh do i get some too?
I don't know
chinese and japanese had it pretty terrible. it's a miracle that east asians became the top minority group. but i guess people are built differently.
Go on
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Japanese got reparations for internment.
They were American citizens who owned businesses, homes etc. etc.
Many of whom actually ended up serving in the U.S. military.
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Japanese got reparations for internment.
They were American citizens who owned businesses, homes etc. etc.
Many of whom actually ended up serving in the U.S. military.
Yeah we know, I'm not sure you understood kk's point.
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Japanese got reparations for internment.
They were American citizens who owned businesses, homes etc. etc.
Many of whom actually ended up serving in the U.S. military.
What's the point Captain Cryptic?
Yeah we know, I'm not sure you understood kk's point.
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Japanese got reparations for internment.
as if they needed it!
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Yeah, but I don't know when your family came over.
I think the fact that most Chinese immigrants came after 1980 makes your claim a bit less of a miracle. Also, you should rank all the minority groups.
http://nypost.com/2014/07/19/why-nycs-push-to-change-school-admissions-will-punish-poor-asians/
rich, poor, don't matter
1) asians
2) certain middle eastern/african immigrants
3+) don't care, not smart enough
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Yeah, but I don't know when your family came over.
I think the fact that most Chinese immigrants came after 1980 makes your claim a bit less of a miracle. Also, you should rank all the minority groups.
http://nypost.com/2014/07/19/why-nycs-push-to-change-school-admissions-will-punish-poor-asians/
rich, poor, don't matter
1) asians
2) certain middle eastern/african immigrants
3+) don't care, not smart enough
This is must read material for all libtards.
Success is about IQ and effort in this country.
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Yeah, but I don't know when your family came over.
I think the fact that most Chinese immigrants came after 1980 makes your claim a bit less of a miracle. Also, you should rank all the minority groups.
http://nypost.com/2014/07/19/why-nycs-push-to-change-school-admissions-will-punish-poor-asians/
rich, poor, don't matter
1) asians
2) certain middle eastern/african immigrants
3+) don't care, not smart enough
This is must read material for all libtards.
Success is about IQ and effort in this country.
Being rich and white in America also goes a long way
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T-Y again, Michi :love:
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That came from the republican who wrote the article.
Sure, the decision makers will do their best to admit a few more black and Latino kids (especially those from the same upper-middle-class backgrounds), but the primary beneficiaries will be affluent white students who didn’t study hard enough to perform really well on the test but seem more “well-rounded” than those who did.
:dunno:
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Statements of opinion chiseled in stone as fact . . . Go cRusty!!
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T-Y again, Michi :love:
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Ok guys I guess it isn't good to be rich and white. Carry on.
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Yeah, but I don't know when your family came over.
I think the fact that most Chinese immigrants came after 1980 makes your claim a bit less of a miracle. Also, you should rank all the minority groups.
http://nypost.com/2014/07/19/why-nycs-push-to-change-school-admissions-will-punish-poor-asians/
rich, poor, don't matter
1) asians
2) certain middle eastern/african immigrants
3+) don't care, not smart enough
This is must read material for all libtards.
Success is about IQ and effort in this country.
Being rich and white in America also goes a long way
It's great how the regresocons on this board absolutely refuse to acknowledge this :love:
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:lol: Keep 'em comin' theys (<-- libtard for guys/gals)
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Yeah, but I don't know when your family came over.
I think the fact that most Chinese immigrants came after 1980 makes your claim a bit less of a miracle. Also, you should rank all the minority groups.
http://nypost.com/2014/07/19/why-nycs-push-to-change-school-admissions-will-punish-poor-asians/
rich, poor, don't matter
1) asians
2) certain middle eastern/african immigrants
3+) don't care, not smart enough
This is must read material for all libtards.
Success is about IQ and effort in this country.
Being rich and white in America also goes a long way
It's great how the regresocons on this board absolutely refuse to acknowledge this :love:
link?
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:Carl:
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This is must read material for all libtards.
Success is about IQ and effort in this country.
beautiful thing isn't it? can even do without the IQ, as long as you are in the right direction.
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Has anyone heard from FSD, reno, KSUW...? :ROFL:
http://www.rawstory.com/2015/12/libtard-hating-ex-police-chief-accused-of-pointing-gun-at-woman-who-passed-his-hummer/
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Has anyone heard from FSD, reno, KSUW...? :ROFL:
http://www.rawstory.com/2015/12/libtard-hating-ex-police-chief-accused-of-pointing-gun-at-woman-who-passed-his-hummer/
Mods, please move to the "True American Patriot" thread. K, thx
He later claimed he had produced the videos with a federal government agency to draw out sovereign citizens and other “lone wolves” willing to commit violent acts.
Kessler claims his videos efforts helped investigators interrupt an alleged plot to bomb a federal building by the Georgia-based XXX Minutemen.
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Yeah, but I don't know when your family came over.
I think the fact that most Chinese immigrants came after 1980 makes your claim a bit less of a miracle. Also, you should rank all the minority groups.
http://nypost.com/2014/07/19/why-nycs-push-to-change-school-admissions-will-punish-poor-asians/
rich, poor, don't matter
1) asians
2) certain middle eastern/african immigrants
3+) don't care, not smart enough
This is must read material for all libtards.
Success is about IQ and effort in this country.
Such a simple view from a simple mind.
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Potraying children as chimps on a leash is A-OK?
So the kids were depicted as leashed monkeys, huh? We're ok with that?
So it's only okay when Cruz exploits his kids, and no one should call him on it?
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Re depicting small children as leashed chimps:
And really no line was crossed in respect to the kids, so it's even more confusing to me why this is a problem
Well, the copy editor of said publication admitted it crossed the line, both internal policy and general decorum, but what would an ignorant libtard care about that? Extremely hateful people, they are.
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This one is more shocking/crazy than libtarded, but crazy is part of being libtarded so I thought it should go here:
How old was Clinton when he became president? That must be the optimum age because he was easily the best president of the last 50 years.
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Yeah, who doesn't think a rapist, sexual predator, gay hating hill billy wasn't a great president? His sole and singular accomplishment was his approval rating when he left.
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Legendary alpha. I don't think he raped anyone though. It's always bullshit. But let the libtards have fun with that one
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Legendary alpha. I don't think he raped anyone though. It's always bullshit. But let the libtards have fun with that one
he raped the American taxpayer. There's that.
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Legendary alpha. I don't think he raped anyone though. It's always bullshit. But let the libtards have fun with that one
"A woman has a right to be believed, unless Bill rapes her, then she has a right to have her life ruined by our political machine"
- Hillary "scum of the earth" Clinton
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Libtard logic :love:
Black lives should matter just as much as any other lives. But, uh, harassing people and hurting businesses doesn't seem like a very effective way to get that message across.
What makes what they've done ineffective? Shutting down Michigan Avenue seems extremely effective. Something like a candlelight vigil somewhere on the south side seems incredibly ineffective.
They need to inconvenience people, otherwise no one will listen.
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Blaming society ranks right up there with blaming god
Black Lives Matter is ultimately necessary because, as I've pointed out before, the entirety of our society doesn't value the lives of black people the way we value others. I'm baffled by those of you who continue to whine about black-on-black crime, as if you actually care, like black people don't know it's a problem. Black lives mattering like that of livestock is deeply rooted in this country, the BLM movement is a noble one but I'm not sure how it will reverse 400 years of history. And it seems like on the whole white America refuses to acknowledge this so it seems this is all futile.
Here is the most egregious case of black life being marginalized that I've ever seen. I don't know if I'm more pissed that it happened or that no one seems to care that it did, business as usual.
http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/autopsy-results-expected-woman-removed-hospital-35922002
BTW, "society" has gone well out of its way to help.
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Blaming society ranks right up there with blaming god
Black Lives Matter is ultimately necessary because, as I've pointed out before, the entirety of our society doesn't value the lives of black people the way we value others. I'm baffled by those of you who continue to whine about black-on-black crime, as if you actually care, like black people don't know it's a problem. Black lives mattering like that of livestock is deeply rooted in this country, the BLM movement is a noble one but I'm not sure how it will reverse 400 years of history. And it seems like on the whole white America refuses to acknowledge this so it seems this is all futile.
Here is the most egregious case of black life being marginalized that I've ever seen. I don't know if I'm more pissed that it happened or that no one seems to care that it did, business as usual.
http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/autopsy-results-expected-woman-removed-hospital-35922002
BTW, "society" has gone well out of its way to help.
LOL, how? This should be good.
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You are a crazy person, and it's past your bedtime. But thanks for contributing to this thread
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You are a crazy person, and it's past your bedtime. But thanks for contributing to this thread
That's what I thought, thank you for pointing out all of the ways society has gone out of it's way to help.
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You are a crazy person, and it's past your bedtime. But thanks for contributing to this thread
That's what I thought, thank you for pointing out all of the ways society has gone out of it's way to help.
Good gawd. You are an absolute rough ridin' lunatic.
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There are myriad public and private assistance / incentives / programs / policies /legislation solely for African Americans. That is no secret
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Can we start a White Lives Matter thread, or would that be racist?
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There are myriad public and private assistance / incentives / programs / policies /legislation solely for African Americans. That is no secret
It's a secret to me, I'd love to be enlightened so me and my kids can take advantage.
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:facepalm:
:'bye cruel world:
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Still waiting, something tells me I'm going to die waiting.
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Is this really where you want plead ignorance?
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There are myriad public and private assistance / incentives / programs / policies /legislation solely for African Americans. That is no secret
It's a secret to me, I'd love to be enlightened so me and my kids can take advantage.
Here you go. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_landmark_African-American_legislation)
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There are myriad public and private assistance / incentives / programs / policies /legislation solely for African Americans. That is no secret
It's a secret to me, I'd love to be enlightened so me and my kids can take advantage.
Here you go. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_landmark_African-American_legislation)
Did you miss the part I bolded, I bet so.
For the record none of those pieces of legislation were solely for African Americans. Two of those; the civil rights acts of 1957 and 1960 I suppose could be counted but the bills do not mention anything about African American, Negroes, Coloreds, etc. One of them IMO is detrimental, the one drop rule.
Either way, that list is for legislation that clarifies minorities rights afforded them in the constitution, that's not a "myriad public and private assistance / incentives / programs / policies /legislation solely for African Americans."
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There are myriad public and private assistance / incentives / programs / policies /legislation solely for African Americans. That is no secret
It's a secret to me, I'd love to be enlightened so me and my kids can take advantage.
Here you go. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_landmark_African-American_legislation)
Did you miss the part I bolded, I bet so.
For the record none of those pieces of legislation were solely for African Americans. Two of those; the civil rights acts of 1957 and 1960 I suppose could be counted but the bills do not mention anything about African American, Negroes, Coloreds, etc. One of them IMO is detrimental, the one drop rule.
Either way, that list is for legislation that clarifies minorities rights afforded them in the constitution, that's not a "myriad public and private assistance / incentives / programs / policies /legislation solely for African Americans."
For the record, I spent about 10 seconds on that post.
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So some of bundy's brood have taken and occupy a federal building. They claim if police try to remove them that they will not hesitate to use violence.
Sounds like terrorism to me
:lol:
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Can we have updated standings showing what libtards contribute the most to this repository.
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Can we have updated standings showing what libtards contribute the most to this repository.
MIR got out to a commanding lead. That probably has more to do with his knee jerk reaction to the thread, unhealthy issue woth anger and inability to ascertain context, than his fequency of libtarded posting.
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So some of bundy's brood have taken and occupy a federal building. They claim if police try to remove them that they will not hesitate to use violence.
Sounds like terrorism to me
:lol:
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Can we have updated standings showing what libtards contribute the most to this repository.
MIR got out to a commanding lead. That probably has more to do with his knee jerk reaction to the thread, unhealthy issue woth anger and inability to ascertain context, than his fequency of libtarded posting.
:dunno: Other than the absurdly immature use of the word tard, I think the thread is hilarious
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I'll allow it, and the record will so reflect.
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My nomination for today - Edna's understanding of the Constitution....
A good article on how this administration, the most lawless and unconstitutional administration in history, have stretched their executive powers to pretty much abolish due process in campus rape accusations.
Please provide a detailed list of unconstitutional acts.
Ok. Here is a very detailed and extensively reasoned list. http://www.heritage.org/research/reports/2014/02/an-executive-unbound-the-obama-administrations-unilateral-actions (http://www.heritage.org/research/reports/2014/02/an-executive-unbound-the-obama-administrations-unilateral-actions)
In summary, Obama has used his executive agencies to create and enforce regulations that are in no way shape or form authorized by the law. Example, the EPA regulations to limit carbon emissions, based upon a law - the Clean Air Act - that makes zero reference to climate change or CO2.
In other instances, he has ordered agencies to simply ignore laws for entire classifications of people, far beyond case-by-case prosecutorial discretion. Example, his attempts to create new immigration amnesties in direct contravention of immigration law - a move that has thus far been blocked by the courts.
In other instances, he simply ignores inconvenient parts of his very own signature law - Obamacare - unilaterally ignoring statutory deadlines and other provisions.
He is EASILY the most lawless, unconstitutional president in US history.
To Barack Obama, the law is whatever the eff he says it is. His strategy is to do whatever he wants, let his opponents sue the various agencies, and even if he ultimately loses a few years later, big deal.
Yeah those are arguably "lawless" acts which are debateable. You could mildly claim he wasn't acting in a constitutional manner since he isn't upholding his oath the way you want him to, but you still failed to list anything that smacked against the constitution itself. If you really want to educate yourself read up on Jackson and get back to me when Obama tells the SCOTUS to stuff it and then proceeds to destroy a civilization.
Because it's not in the Constitution that he faithfully execute the laws.... :lol:
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:facepalm:
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Thanks everyone for joining me today as we induct another Edna post to the Libtard Hall of Fame. Behold!
And yeah, I guess I'm a living Constitution person.....because I like things like the 13th, 14th, and 15th, and the 19th isn't so bad.
Speaking of you looking foolish... Amending the Constitution and a "living Constitution" are two entirely different things. You're like a walking breathing facepalm.
Oh we're talking the academic definition. I mean if you want to talk about cases involving the penumbra of the constitution we can do that. I won't end up well for you and you'll just tap out. Why don't we just skip to that now?
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Interacting with people online is by and large worthless. And Jacob Pullen sucks.
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Interacting with people online is by and large worthless. And Jacob Pullen sucks.
Hmmmmm, I'll allow it, but I'm not happy about this.
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Interacting with people online is by and large worthless. And Jacob Pullen sucks.
Hmmmmm, I'll allow it, but I'm not happy about this.
He was taking a shot at edn there
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Re: capital punishment
it's cruel and unusual everywhere, fake sugar dick.
Standard libtard fair, 1) ignorance or disdain for the well settled law of the land, 2) sympathizes with and advocates for murdering criminals, and 3) fairly tale delusions of western europe. Probably loves abortion and drones (only obama drones) too.
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Corporate personhood :curse:
I have no problem with them having a voice. I have a great deal of issue with them having the same Constitutional rights as a person. Since the vast majority of corporations are closely held, the individuals controlling them don't need two voices.
Straw man arguments carry no weight. No one has asked for corps having "the same Constitutional rights as a person." My solution is to eliminate corporate taxes altogether. People vote - people get taxed. Simple.
And if you are going to tax high earners at a higher % than lesser earners, they should have more of a say in their governance. Solution = flat tax.
WTF strawman arguments are you talking about? Corps now have freedom of speech per Citizens United. Corps now have religious beliefs transferred into them from their closely held owners per Burwell. The next step could be voting at the rate the Court is going.
Still love the fact that all of you who tried to call me out are ducking the issue that any type of corporate personhood is a bastardization of the living constitution. I guess it's only bad when that doctrine gives rights to minority groups and women.
Yeah, allowing an association, like a trade union, the Sierra club or a corporation, to contribute to a PAC is the gateway drug to the corporate right to vote.
Not allowing the federal government to dictate what health insurance coverage a business owner has to buy for its employees is a real infringement on liberty guys.
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Yes, none of that stuff should be donating money to politics.
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Yes, none of that stuff should be donating money to politics.
This isn't very libtarded, lib. You're screwing up my thread.
Should we be concerned about Special Interest Group (SIG) Personhood? Trade Union Personhood? Limited Liability Company Personhood?
What if the LLC is taxed as a sole proprietorship or partnership? :runaway:
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Imho contributions should only be allowed from individuals and capped at $50 or so (negotiable on amount, but very low)
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This one is about those dirty, lazy, pant sagging corpos
I don't think it's new, definitely not wrong thread.
Wow this is like an epiphany moment in understanding why Fake and KSUW don't get the direction of politics and how our country really works. They really don't understand the mechanisms at play for things like campaign spending. They only hear that the SEIU spends a few million dollars on elections and that's un-'Merican by ads put on by AFP (Kochs) that cost 400 million. Complete and total disconnect.
The Kochs are a corporation?
It's generally a nice mix of unfounded claims, hypocrisy, paranoia and delusion. Standard libtard state of mind.
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This thread never disappoints, I would like to see more of our uber libtarded-self proclaimed moderates represented though.
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When I became of voting age, Reagan was just starting his first term. The country, led by the quasi-socialist Jimmy Carter the previous 4 years was awash in stagflation: double-digit unemployment, interest rates, and recession. I wasn't very political at the time, and had liberal professors trying to shove their crap along with their lectures. But I and those I knew in school at the time had minds of our own. I couldn't wait for 1984 and the chance to re-elect Reagan. What could possibly be fair about making the higher earners pay a greater percentage of their income for government than lower earners? The top marginal tax rate in Carter's years was 70%! What possible incentive is there to be productive and innovative if government takes 70% of it all? After Reagan's second term was over, the top rate was reduced to 28%. History was clear about the economic boom that results from such free market actions. The free market is why the U.S. economy leads the world.
What I don't get is how the youth of this era can give up all chance they have of earning things on their own and hitch their futures to a socialist that believes government is entitled to 90% of what you earn. Look beyond all the crony-capitalist crap that I can actually agree with most on and get back to the basis....socialism runs on envy. If someone else made more money than you, they need to be punished by having most of it taken from them (theft) and redistributed to those that didn't earn it.
Can any of you young people explain this? Is it as simple as, "Hey I don't have to work as hard if I can have Bernie take it from someone else!"
What is it?
What's funny about all this is the greatest economic growth in our country's history happened when the highest marginal tax rate was 91%. And with that money the government with all its awfulness created the middle class with the GI bill.
What's funny is somebody was told this, took it at face value and then typed it out on the internet.
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When I became of voting age, Reagan was just starting his first term. The country, led by the quasi-socialist Jimmy Carter the previous 4 years was awash in stagflation: double-digit unemployment, interest rates, and recession. I wasn't very political at the time, and had liberal professors trying to shove their crap along with their lectures. But I and those I knew in school at the time had minds of our own. I couldn't wait for 1984 and the chance to re-elect Reagan. What could possibly be fair about making the higher earners pay a greater percentage of their income for government than lower earners? The top marginal tax rate in Carter's years was 70%! What possible incentive is there to be productive and innovative if government takes 70% of it all? After Reagan's second term was over, the top rate was reduced to 28%. History was clear about the economic boom that results from such free market actions. The free market is why the U.S. economy leads the world.
What I don't get is how the youth of this era can give up all chance they have of earning things on their own and hitch their futures to a socialist that believes government is entitled to 90% of what you earn. Look beyond all the crony-capitalist crap that I can actually agree with most on and get back to the basis....socialism runs on envy. If someone else made more money than you, they need to be punished by having most of it taken from them (theft) and redistributed to those that didn't earn it.
Can any of you young people explain this? Is it as simple as, "Hey I don't have to work as hard if I can have Bernie take it from someone else!"
What is it?
What's funny about all this is the greatest economic growth in our country's history happened when the highest marginal tax rate was 91%. And with that money the government with all its awfulness created the middle class with the GI bill.
What's funny is somebody was told this, took it at face value and then typed it out on the internet.
I made it!!!! :drool:
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This thread never disappoints, I would like to see more of our uber libtarded-self proclaimed moderates represented though.
I would love to know who tubesock is referring to. Do you know how message boards work? You are allowed to copy and paste too, it isn't hard.
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This one is awesome on several levels
Do you guys get the political ads in Kansas? Rubio is running an ad where he tells three flat out lies, not loose interpretations of the truth, but just flat out lies. Rubio also has a super PAC that is infatuated with Jeb, dude is polling at like 4% but Marco's super PAC has a weird obsession with him.
Which lies is Marco telling the good people of Iowa?
He made six claims in a 30 second ad
1. Prisoners released from Gitmo (I'm assuming he means the ones released in the Bergdahl deal) are plotting to attack us. He didn't say anything like I think or, could be, he said "they are planning to attack us" without equivocation.
2. "Instead of fighting to fund our troops he's fighting to fund Planned Parenthood."
3. "His plan after the attack in San Bernardino, take away our guns."
One truth:
1. "He cut a deal with Iran." Which is mostly true, it was a coalition deal but whatever
Then there was this:
"He spies on Israel." This one isn't a lie but it's using a small part of the truth with the intent to mislead. Yes, our country spies on Israel, and our country will continue to do so no matter who the president is. They also spy on us.
Finally this:
"He says climate change is our greatest threat." I can't find this direct quote, I can only find right leaning blogs that claim that Obama said it but nothing directly attributing the quote to him. I won't put it in the out and out lie section but it smells funny.
So six claims; three lies, two questionable, one close to the unequivocal truth.
Here's the ad https://youtu.be/XMMwWXWCCn8
I'm not certain, I don't have anything to specifically refute this, but if you add my personally biased context, I have a real problem with the statements in this political ad.
All of the demogogues repeatedly say climate change is the biggest threat to our society. It's rough ridin' crazy, and more of a lie than anything you're taking issue with.
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This one is awesome on several levels
Do you guys get the political ads in Kansas? Rubio is running an ad where he tells three flat out lies, not loose interpretations of the truth, but just flat out lies. Rubio also has a super PAC that is infatuated with Jeb, dude is polling at like 4% but Marco's super PAC has a weird obsession with him.
Which lies is Marco telling the good people of Iowa?
He made six claims in a 30 second ad
1. Prisoners released from Gitmo (I'm assuming he means the ones released in the Bergdahl deal) are plotting to attack us. He didn't say anything like I think or, could be, he said "they are planning to attack us" without equivocation.
2. "Instead of fighting to fund our troops he's fighting to fund Planned Parenthood."
3. "His plan after the attack in San Bernardino, take away our guns."
One truth:
1. "He cut a deal with Iran." Which is mostly true, it was a coalition deal but whatever
Then there was this:
"He spies on Israel." This one isn't a lie but it's using a small part of the truth with the intent to mislead. Yes, our country spies on Israel, and our country will continue to do so no matter who the president is. They also spy on us.
Finally this:
"He says climate change is our greatest threat." I can't find this direct quote, I can only find right leaning blogs that claim that Obama said it but nothing directly attributing the quote to him. I won't put it in the out and out lie section but it smells funny.
So six claims; three lies, two questionable, one close to the unequivocal truth.
Here's the ad https://youtu.be/XMMwWXWCCn8
I'm not certain, I don't have anything to specifically refute this, but if you add my personally biased context, I have a real problem with the statements in this political ad.
All of the demogogues repeatedly say climate change is the biggest threat to our society. It's rough ridin' crazy, and more of a lie than anything you're taking issue with.
You're debating that those three statements are lies?
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Anyone who uses the phrase "without equivocation" when complaining about a political ad, probably isn't seeing straight.
Further, #1 is conjectural, not a lie. #2 and #3 are colorable and easily defensible as true. The other 3 are obviously accurate.
None of this makes the post as libtarded as your naked hypocrisy on veracity of statements made by democrat politicians.
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Anyone who uses the phrase "without equivocation" when complaining about a political ad, probably isn't seeing straight.
Further, #1 is conjectural, not a lie. #2 and #3 are colorable and easily defensible as true. The other 3 are obviously accurate.
None of this makes the post as libtarded as your naked hypocrisy on veracity of statements made by democrat politicians.
When in the hell have I advocated for any presidential candidate lying in a campaign ad? You just built quite a strawman, now you're going to deny doing it. I've been openly critical of democratic candidates and the democratic party, like a lot, you got me mumped up dude.
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Take it to the uber libtarded appeals thread.
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Anyone who uses the phrase "without equivocation" when complaining about a political ad, probably isn't seeing straight.
Further, #1 is conjectural, not a lie. #2 and #3 are colorable and easily defensible as true. The other 3 are obviously accurate.
None of this makes the post as libtarded as your naked hypocrisy on veracity of statements made by democrat politicians.
When in the hell have I advocated for any presidential candidate lying in a campaign ad? You just built quite a strawman, now you're going to deny doing it. I've been openly critical of democratic candidates and the democratic party, like a lot, you got me mumped up dude.
How dare you build a strawman out of my ancillary observation! :curse:
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1. I was referring to King being a Republican. First, he didn't claim a party as he claimed feeling betrayed by both. Democrats pushed civil rights agenda not Republicans, and that's who he worked with. Even if you want to make the WEAK argument that King was a Republican it's not the same Republican party that exists today.
I love these. Democrats, the Champions of civil rights and the KKK! We get to revise and erase history.
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1. I was referring to King being a Republican. First, he didn't claim a party as he claimed feeling betrayed by both. Democrats pushed civil rights agenda not Republicans, and that's who he worked with. Even if you want to make the WEAK argument that King was a Republican it's not the same Republican party that exists today.
I love these. Democrats, the Champions of civil rights and the KKK! We get to revise and erase history.
So when FSD can't back up political statements it goes in this thread. :thumbsup:
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No, this is where we put uber libtarded posts, like that unfounded drivel you were forced to immediately back pedal from. Try reading around, bucket.
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No, this is where we put uber libtarded posts, like that unfounded drivel you were forced to immediately back pedal from. Try reading around, bucket.
You appear to be the one backpedaling. Your response to showing proof of King being a Republican was putting my response in this thread. Sound argument.
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Is bucket another edna sock
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:lol:
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This one is about those dirty, lazy, pant sagging corpos
I don't think it's new, definitely not wrong thread.
Wow this is like an epiphany moment in understanding why Fake and KSUW don't get the direction of politics and how our country really works. They really don't understand the mechanisms at play for things like campaign spending. They only hear that the SEIU spends a few million dollars on elections and that's un-'Merican by ads put on by AFP (Kochs) that cost 400 million. Complete and total disconnect.
The Kochs are a corporation?
It's generally a nice mix of unfounded claims, hypocrisy, paranoia and delusion. Standard libtard state of mind.
LOL this rube doesn't even know what AFP is. :Rusty:
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$400 million ad, guys.
Did they buy the super bowl half time show and spend the balance on 1000 consecutive hours of paid programming?
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Bloomberg is going to roll this
Yay! Police state
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Not cheering for him. Looking forward to an interesting run. I mean, if the pubs cockblock trump in the primary, put Cruz or Rubio out front, trump may run independent. We could see don, Bloomberg, hill, and cruz/rubio all going toward the Nov elect. That would be interesting.
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Protip: none of this is actually interesting
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Whatevs, clams
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That would be interesting CNS
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In reference to a person who fraudulently classified information so it could be faxed to her or sent to her unsecured email address.
Does any of this really matter?
No.
Yeah, it's difficult to see how this might be problematic for the former SOS and someone who wants to be president, run the military, etc....if you have severe mental retardation
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It's like problem number 97 of 97 problems with what she did
The problem is that there wasn't a good clear policy on operating your private email server. There is a clear, concise, federal policy on classified data. The issue has always been whether or not someone could prove she stripped the classification and sent or stored it.
:lol:
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The problem is that she was intentionally avoiding the FOIA and was willing to put classified information at risk to do that. That may not be enough to indict her or put her in jail, but it should be enough for anyone who cares at all about transparency and accountability to not vote for her.
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The problem is that she was intentionally avoiding the FOIA and was willing to put classified information at risk to do that. That may not be enough to indict her or put her in jail, but it should be enough for anyone who cares at all about transparency and accountability to not vote for her.
Tells you all you need to know about the current administrations priority on accountability in regards to transparency
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The problem is that she was intentionally avoiding the FOIA and was willing to put classified information at risk to do that. That may not be enough to indict her or put her in jail, but it should be enough for anyone who cares at all about transparency and accountability to not vote for her.
Tells you all you need to know about the current administrations priority on accountability in regards to transparency
Or any admin in the last 40 years.
The problem is that Fake doesn't understand that post. The issue is with policy before we get to the classified info. Government crafted that policy to protect government (no R or D bias). Once we crossed into classified info, for sure, being on those servers and distributed we've reached an entirely new level. We need to stop acting like Hilrod did anything official wrong just by having the server. Focus on the info she passed around.
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Hillary did something wrong by exclusively conducting her state business through that server, whack-a-doodle. How can you not see that?
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Edna you can't put your own posts in this thread. Someone else has to nominate them.
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Hillary did something wrong by exclusively conducting her state business through that server, whack-a-doodle. How can you not see that?
Where is the witch hunt for Jeb Bush?
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Bucket is pushing super hard for a nomination. I've been withholding, not because he isn't libtarded, but because his desperation amuses me.
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Bucket is pushing super hard for a nomination. I've been withholding, not because he isn't libtarded, but because his desperation amuses me.
Been nominated :Woot:
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No way we win another game. This team has quit on the coaches and it is the same as the end of the Parrish days and Prince days. When we lose at Kansas, it will be over for Snyder, look for him to leave under pressure or he will be fired. Even the over 65 crowd will not tolerate losing to Kansas. The program is in the worst shape it has been since Snyder took over in November, 1988. Iowa State will kill us (45 to 13) next week.
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This gem
We don't have blind faith in government but we really don't mind at all when government gets larger and controls more and more . . . But honest, we don't have blind faith in government, we want too be very clear in that . . .
Lol @ resident ProgLibs
I think the nsa should be abolished and the CIA and military budgets should be cut in half (or more) because I don't trust them or elected officials charged with overseeing them.
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:love:
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Man, I could really beef up the repository if I could get on Lib7's email listserve. I think I saw this on my demented great aunt's FB page
. . . are not happy the north won the civil war
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcdn.thinkprogress.org%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2016%2F02%2F16113545%2FSCpollSG1large-816x281.jpg&hash=cb820229e25668fae62dc4b83fb92519accfba9f)
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Man, I could really beef up the repository if I could get on Lib7's email listserve. I think I saw this on my demented great aunt's FB page
. . . are not happy the north won the civil war
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcdn.thinkprogress.org%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2016%2F02%2F16113545%2FSCpollSG1large-816x281.jpg&hash=cb820229e25668fae62dc4b83fb92519accfba9f)
I saw it on phog.net
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:lol:
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Blissful ignorance
Good take away
My overall take away is that Donald Trump ought to be able to denounce the KKK without "looking into it." But this is the same guy who just blamed GWB for 9/11 and the "lying" about WMD in Iraq, who has no plan for replacing Obamacare except for "getting of rid of the lines around the states," and has said any number of moronic things. He's a buffoon. I think I've said that before. Many times, actually. It might surprise you to know that I don't support Trump for the GOP nomination. Even though I think he can beat Hillary, I think he'd be a very poor president.
How is this different from the rest of the GOP, they have had the house for 5 years and still haven't passed any sort of replacement bill. They now have a memo that basically just say get rid of state lines, a good idea, among with a various of tax credits. Nobody on the right has an actual plan to replace Obamacar, just a bunch of talking points.
Chuck really doesn't get enough credit in here.
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Wait, wut? :lol:
Just trying to understand why ProgLibs hate border security so very very very much.
Sad
because we wouldn't need to secure our southern border if we would just end the war on drugs. pretty simple, really.
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Lol, wow!
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:lol:
We get it. You don't know what's going on and are terrified to take an actual position out of fear of ecposing yourself as the dumbass you are. The emoji does nothing to cloak that.
It's not your fault.
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:lol:
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Well, that was easy.
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Well, that was easy.
We all find it very, very easy to laugh at you.
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Oh no, here come the "back" :runaway:
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Oh no, here come the "back" :runaway:
:bwpopcorn:
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Wait, wut? :lol:
Just trying to understand why ProgLibs hate border security so very very very much.
Sad
because we wouldn't need to secure our southern border if we would just end the war on drugs. pretty simple, really.
nice, finally made the list!
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Lib just unconsciously taps out these days. #tapoutbot #lib
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Lib just unconsciously taps out these days. #tapoutbot #lib
it can't be a tapout because i wasn't responding to anyone. and i wasn't responding to anyone because no one made a coherent argument to the contrary.
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Lib just unconsciously taps out these days. #tapoutbot #lib
it can't be a tapout because i wasn't responding to anyone. and i wasn't responding to anyone because no one made a coherent argument to the contrary.
dax wasn't talking to you, trey.
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what a disaster. <----- @tobias post
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Wut
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Thick as thieves
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How does someone begin to go about making up stuff like this
Just a bunch of complete idiots running those companies, not forward thinkers at all.
Windmills and solar collectors are not "forward" thinking. Those were left on the pile of failed technologies a hundred years ago.
Solar has made great gains in the last decade. California has capitalized on this. Nevada was trying before the Pubs shut it down. Florida has blocked any and all efforts by its citizens to utilize the technology.
The only reason solar is being shut down is because it's a threat to coal and gas companies. It's a good business strategy, but harmful to the planet. It's a win-win-win to have citizens collect solar power, give back to the grid, and create jobs.
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The "my candidate raised money $20 at a time" is going to be a staple in the repository. How fuming ignorant can you believe?
Also, when most people are registered as independents why is it such a given that a 3rd party candidate has no chance? It's like the people already don't have a voice or at least they think they don't.
Money
Until a third party starts earning the way the d's and r's do, they have no chance.
Bernie Sanders raised money by getting like a million donations of $27 each. The only reason a third party couldn't do the same is because there is some kind of mass hysteria among the public who think a third party cannot raise money or otherwise have a chance to win.
You could literally have 10-20 million people who would consider donating to/ voting for a guy like Gary Johnson but don't do it because they are afraid of throwing their vote/money away.
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Thank you all for coming today to witness and honor the induction of another worthy addition to the Libtard Hall of Fame. The Pit is full of wonderfully libtarded contributions, but this thread is for the truly elite. This place of glory is reserved for that rare post that so perfectly demonstrates the combination of sanctimonious certitude and delusion that is the left.
you're awfully self-riotous for someone who is producing children, camksu.
No question, it is something I think about.
However, I find solace in knowing that I will educate my offspring to be skeptical but also logical and rational when it comes to science and information. Stubbornness. ignorance, and pride can certainly go too far.
Plus, I would like to be the change I want to see in the world and the best way I can see to succeed in that is by "walking the walk" when it comes to being active and engaged in the political process and society at large... and also by raising children in my own image. Arrogant I know, but I think being a parent in this world requires a little delusional arrogance and self-righteousness.
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It's been a long time coming, congrats Camksu :cheers:
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It's been a long time coming, congrats Camksu :cheers:
Hell yeah!
I'd like to thank the academy and all the little people I've stepped on to get here... This one is for you Dax/fsd/ksuw/gato/etc.
I'd also like to thank the GOP, the trumpeters, and gw deniers for being such hypocrites and knuckle-draggers when it comes to "consensus-science" and "data".
In terms of being a true "conservative" and "business-oriented" I welcome all open-minded and rational thinkers to the sustainability/resilience bandwagon. The future of mankind on this tiny fragile blue planet is only at stake.
Power to the people.
Btw... in true socialist/communist fashion of accepting free gifts I'd like to know, what's my prize?
A signed repurposed toilet from Bernie Sanders? A Cherokee headdress from Elizabeth Warren? A former Barack Obama blunt roach?
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Yeesh, you are just like Trump, all about yourself and not the people.
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Confession: Cam is a sock I made to parody leftist whack jobs.
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I wish this were true.