Post by: sonofdaxjones on October 19, 2015, 01:21:58 PM
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First Year: 6-0 record. Biggest win to date: Houston 34 Louisville 31
Key upcoming games: Vandy, UCinn, Memphis, Navy
Key Statistical Rankings:
Rushing Offense 10th
Passing Offense 28th
Scoring Offense 5th
Prior: Offensive Coordinator defending national champions Ohio State.
2015 Recruiting Class Key Signees (Rivals):
Tyriek Gray (RB) 10 P5 Offers
Kameron Eloph (OG) 3 P5 Offers
Joshua Jones (OT) 8 P5 Offers
2016 Key Commitments to date (Rivals):
Mulbah Car (RB) 6 P5 Offers
Keith Corbin (WR) 9 P5 Offers
Ed Oliver (DT) 13 P5 Offers
Na Ty Rodgers (JC OL) 7 P5 Offers
Bowmam Sells (QB) 4 P5 Offers
MARQUEZ STEVENSON 8 P5 Offers
COLLIN WILDER 8 P5 Offers
Post by: MakeItRain on October 19, 2015, 01:26:51 PM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on October 19, 2015, 01:28:02 PM
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Dude, this stuff doesn't write itself.
Post by: Panjandrum on October 19, 2015, 01:28:43 PM
I'd probably give the slight nod to Fuente. He's proving last year wasn't a fluke. Memphis is downright nasty.
Post by: MadCat on October 19, 2015, 01:31:41 PM
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Post by: Gooch on October 19, 2015, 01:34:33 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on October 19, 2015, 01:35:06 PM
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Dude, this stuff doesn't write itself.
I'm lazy though
Post by: sonofdaxjones on October 19, 2015, 01:38:41 PM
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Dude, this stuff doesn't write itself.
I'm lazy though
I'll happily do it.
Post by: CNS on October 19, 2015, 01:45:26 PM
Post by: pissclams on October 19, 2015, 01:47:43 PM
but i could see us getting a guy like lincoln riley
Post by: Panjandrum on October 19, 2015, 01:48:13 PM
All else equal, wouldn't a tx guy be better for recruiting reasons?
Herman spent time at ISU, so he's kicked around the conference. Fuente is from Tulsa and coached at TCU.
Both have Texas ties. Fuente may be more likely to keep the Southeast pipeline going. He does work in TN, AL, MS, GA, etc. already.
Post by: Panjandrum on October 19, 2015, 01:49:48 PM
i don't think herman would come to kansas state cats
but i could see us getting a guy like lincoln riley
I think we'd be more likely to go after Philip Montgomery if we're really going to go that route.
I mean, you could do worse than Briles' protege.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on October 19, 2015, 01:51:12 PM
Record at School: 23-20 Current Year: 6-0
Key Wins: Ole Miss, Bowling Green, UCinn, BYU
Key Upcoming Games: Navy, Houston, Temple
Prior: TCU OC/AC
Key 2016 Commitments:
Keon Howard (QB) 3 P5 Offers
Post by: kslim on October 19, 2015, 01:52:43 PM
They did Sunday.
If you think they were celebrating Memphis’ historic win over Ole Miss on Saturday, you don’t know either man. Fuente wanted to pick Patterson’s brain on how to manage practice and the team in a short week. Memphis, now ranked No. 18 in the Associated Press poll, plays at Tulsa on Friday night in what lines up as a tricky, hangover-type game for the highest-ranked Group of 5 team.
“That’s just who he is,” said Patterson, who hired Fuente in 2007, when his only coaching experience was at Illinois State. “He wanted to know about a short week instead of talking about a big win. … He’s a hard worker, a good listener. That’s why I hired him. I knew he could manage a room the best.”
Fuente isn’t talking about it, but others are talking about him. The coaching carousel, as it sometimes does, began early in 2015.
It’s only Oct. 19, and there are already four Power 5 openings, with, almost certainly, more to come.
Beginning with the aforementioned Fuente, we’ll highlight college football’s hottest commodities, who just so happen to be Group of 5 coaches in the middle of outstanding seasons. But first, a reset of the current major job climate.
Currently open: Illinois, Maryland, South Carolina and USC
Likely opening (likeliest to least): Virginia, Miami, Purdue
Possibly opening (likeliest to least): Syracuse, Rutgers, Indiana, Virginia Tech, Vanderbilt, Iowa State, Kansas State
1. Fuente, Memphis
Fuente was already well-known in search circles, but his team’s 37-24 win over Ole Miss locked him in atop the group of coaching prospects who will be hotly pursued.
The score doesn’t tell the whole story, really. Taking cues from a coach known for his poise, the Tigers didn’t panic after falling behind 14-0 in the first five-plus minutes. Later, they were physical, disciplined and conditioned enough to sustain a 70-yard field goal drive that ate up more than half the fourth quarter. It was something you’d expect the big, bad SEC team to do to the American program -- not the other way around. That’s telling of the program’s identity.
If you didn’t already know Fuente is for real, now you do. You hear lots of new-ish coaches talk about “culture change” and that sort of thing, but few first-time coaches can illustrate it the way Fuente can.
Memphis had won five of 36 games when he took over. He's won 23 in his first 3.5 seasons -- including the current 13-game win streak that extends back to a 3-3 start in 2014. The win over Ole Miss was the program’s first against a ranked program since Peyton Manning and Tennessee in 1996. It was no fluke, either. The better team won.
Where he makes sense
This is the tricky part. The Tulsa native and former Patterson assistant would seem suited for a higher end Big 12 job. But unless something crazy happens, places such as Oklahoma and Oklahoma State aren’t opening in this cycle. This wasn’t coming from Patterson, but I’ve been told by those who know Fuente that the SEC doesn’t seem a likely landing place. The intensity of recruiting in that league isn’t for everyone.
“You have to know what you’re getting into,” an SEC coach told me.
Patterson’s feedback was that Fuente should go where he feels drawn in terms of fit, regardless of the league.
“You have to make that decision for yourself, whenever that time comes,” Patterson said.
2. Tom Herman, Houston
Herman is 6-0 in his first season as a head coach. Of course, the biggest drawback for a bigger job is that he’s in his first season as a head coach.
Even so, ADs have been monitoring him in earnest since he became Urban Meyer’s playcaller at Ohio State in 2012 -- and especially as Herman helped the Buckeyes to the national title last season, using three quarterbacks from August to January, and won the Broyles Award as the country’s top assistant.
Herman, 40, inherited organizational skills from Meyer, but he’s also got some salesmanship to him. His staff construction has impressed a number of peers, and that’s why gaining head-coaching experience – even if it’s one year – means something, compared to up-and-coming coordinators.
Herman’s $2.25 million buyout, which is in effect for the first three years of his five-year deal, is a hurdle in the minds of ADs, but it will not be a deal-breaker for the right school.
Where he makes sense
Presuming the interviews go well, when the time comes in a month or so, I am under the impression that both Maryland and South Carolina will find a way to take care of the buyout. Herman isn’t a perfect regional fit for the Terps or Gamecocks, but his energy will translate to most any program. Look at the way Herman incorporated skilled, Texas-savvy recruiters when he hadn’t coached in the state since 2008. If you can manage a state as big as Texas, Maryland and South Carolina are going to feel like a handful of counties.
But it also means you have to be better outside the state, and Herman knows both the Midwest and Southeast from his coaching background.
Bear in mind: Like Fuente, and especially with the way he’s recruiting at UH, Herman could very well hold out for a better job.
3. Matt Rhule, Temple
Those who know Rhule say he aspires to coach at his alma mater, Penn State. Well, PSU isn’t open right now, but it would behoove Rhule to find an intermediate Power 5 job as a middle ground for resume-building.
The next two weeks will be proving grounds for Rhule’s current program: The Owls are on a short week Thursday at East Carolina – welcome to Group-of-5 life, right? – and then they host Notre Dame on Halloween. Get through that 2-0, and Rhule will be move toward Fuente on this list.
The 27-10 season-opening win against PSU already demonstrated Temple isn’t standing down against quality competition.
Where he makes sense
Maryland. But will Maryland figure that out?
“You know those situations where a school thinks it can get Coach X, Y and Z – and it really can’t get any of them, and it starts panicking when it’s down to its third, fourth, fifth choice?” an agent told me recently. “Searches require self-awareness. You’ve got to know who you are.”
Maryland, namely backed by Under Armour CEO Kevin Plank, wants to make a big splash; everyone knows that. But sometimes a smart hire, such as Rhule, trumps a sexy one. Learn from Tennessee’s mistake when it went after Lane Kiffin.
4. Matt Campbell, Toledo
The fourth-year coach defies logic: He’s just 35, and yet he is regarded in coaching circles as a mature program-builder and teacher of discipline.
In a league that tried to base its image on crazy midweek games – think: MACtion – 6-0 Toledo is a respectable 31st in yards-per-play defense, and it’s seventh in scoring, despite games – and wins – against Arkansas and Iowa State. A mid-November tilt with high-powered Bowling Green is the biggest remaining challenge for the Rockets.
As an aside, the race for a New Year’s Six bowl berth is going to be great theater. We’re going to wind up comparing Power 5 wins, and Toledo’s are likely to stack up well if the Rockets can keep winning in the MAC.
Where he makes sense
Like Temple, Toledo is an Under Armour school. Campbell makes a great deal of sense for Maryland, as well. Rhule and Campbell both look and sound like coaches who are going to win a bunch of games on the Power 5 level.
5. Jeff Brohm, Western Kentucky head coach
If you like offense, the 44-year-old Brohm – Louisville’s quarterback in the early 1990s – is almost certainly your guy.
Fuente and Memphis knocked off an OK SEC team at home, but Brohm will turn heads if his Hilltoppers can hang with LSU on the road for even a half. It would be shocking if WKU didn’t at least score, considering it is sixth in the country in both yards per play and scoring.
Games against Power 5 opponents become showcases or de facto auditions. Like with Fuente or Rhule, this is an opportunity for Brohm.
Where he makes sense
Whoever needs the sizzle the most, a.k.a. the AD most desiring offense. Maybe it’s time Iowa State goes all-in on spread and tempo concepts -- not just the current staff playing catchup.
Next five
Chad Morris, SMU head coach
He’s 1-5, but everyone knows how far SMU has come in a year. Still, I would like to see where he takes the Ponies from here. If or when Kevin Sumlin moves on, Morris would seem to be a fit at his alma mater. Morris has a $3 million buyout. Like Herman, if the right, deep-pocketed school needs a coach, that will not be a deterrent.
Lane Kiffin, Alabama offensive coordinator
Enough time removed from USC failure? What he’s done with so-so quarterback play in 1.5 seasons at Bama has been pretty remarkable. And surely he has learned applicable lessons from his boss in Tuscaloosa. Surely.
P.J. Fleck, Western Michigan head coach
If the Broncos were better than 3-3, his name would have appeared above. Fleck, 34, is a ball of energy – and sometimes he’s criticized for it in coaching circles. (Just like Penn State’s James Franklin, for one.) But think of a program such as Purdue, which could greatly use someone pumping life into it. There are certain guys who can make any school seem cool, regardless of circumstance or reality, and Fleck is one.
Everett Withers, James Madison head coach
I'm hearing more and more buzz for Withers, who guided UNC through the onset of its NCAA adversity and is currently 16-4 at JMU (7-0 this season). Withers is 52, and he has one of the youngest staffs in football. (Disclamer: I wrote this before GameDay announced it is going to JMU this week. I swear.)
Dino Babers, Bowling Green head coach
The Falcons, as mentioned earlier in regard to the MAC race, are one of the most entertaining teams in Division I college football. They’re mid-major Baylor.
That became evident when quarterback Matt Johnson and the offense went for 11 plays of 20-plus yards in a season-opening loss to Tennessee. From there, BG went on to get Power 5 wins at Maryland and Purdue.
The obvious takeaway there: If you’re looking for a new coach in the Big Ten, Babers already knows how to get conference victories.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on October 19, 2015, 01:53:15 PM
From a rankings perspective Herman is recruiting better, but Houston has better facilities.
Post by: troubledscribe on October 19, 2015, 01:54:02 PM
Post by: Panjandrum on October 19, 2015, 02:00:06 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on October 19, 2015, 02:10:40 PM
It isn’t uncommon for TCU coach Gary Patterson to exchange a text message with former assistant and current Memphis coach Justin Fuente. But it’s rare, Patterson said, that the two actually connect on the phone.
They did Sunday.
If you think they were celebrating Memphis’ historic win over Ole Miss on Saturday, you don’t know either man. Fuente wanted to pick Patterson’s brain on how to manage practice and the team in a short week. Memphis, now ranked No. 18 in the Associated Press poll, plays at Tulsa on Friday night in what lines up as a tricky, hangover-type game for the highest-ranked Group of 5 team.
“That’s just who he is,” said Patterson, who hired Fuente in 2007, when his only coaching experience was at Illinois State. “He wanted to know about a short week instead of talking about a big win. … He’s a hard worker, a good listener. That’s why I hired him. I knew he could manage a room the best.”
Fuente isn’t talking about it, but others are talking about him. The coaching carousel, as it sometimes does, began early in 2015.
It’s only Oct. 19, and there are already four Power 5 openings, with, almost certainly, more to come.
Beginning with the aforementioned Fuente, we’ll highlight college football’s hottest commodities, who just so happen to be Group of 5 coaches in the middle of outstanding seasons. But first, a reset of the current major job climate.
Currently open: Illinois, Maryland, South Carolina and USC
Likely opening (likeliest to least): Virginia, Miami, Purdue
Possibly opening (likeliest to least): Syracuse, Rutgers, Indiana, Virginia Tech, Vanderbilt, Iowa State, Kansas State
1. Fuente, Memphis
Fuente was already well-known in search circles, but his team’s 37-24 win over Ole Miss locked him in atop the group of coaching prospects who will be hotly pursued.
The score doesn’t tell the whole story, really. Taking cues from a coach known for his poise, the Tigers didn’t panic after falling behind 14-0 in the first five-plus minutes. Later, they were physical, disciplined and conditioned enough to sustain a 70-yard field goal drive that ate up more than half the fourth quarter. It was something you’d expect the big, bad SEC team to do to the American program -- not the other way around. That’s telling of the program’s identity.
If you didn’t already know Fuente is for real, now you do. You hear lots of new-ish coaches talk about “culture change” and that sort of thing, but few first-time coaches can illustrate it the way Fuente can.
Memphis had won five of 36 games when he took over. He's won 23 in his first 3.5 seasons -- including the current 13-game win streak that extends back to a 3-3 start in 2014. The win over Ole Miss was the program’s first against a ranked program since Peyton Manning and Tennessee in 1996. It was no fluke, either. The better team won.
Where he makes sense
This is the tricky part. The Tulsa native and former Patterson assistant would seem suited for a higher end Big 12 job. But unless something crazy happens, places such as Oklahoma and Oklahoma State aren’t opening in this cycle. This wasn’t coming from Patterson, but I’ve been told by those who know Fuente that the SEC doesn’t seem a likely landing place. The intensity of recruiting in that league isn’t for everyone.
“You have to know what you’re getting into,” an SEC coach told me.
Patterson’s feedback was that Fuente should go where he feels drawn in terms of fit, regardless of the league.
“You have to make that decision for yourself, whenever that time comes,” Patterson said.
2. Tom Herman, Houston
Herman is 6-0 in his first season as a head coach. Of course, the biggest drawback for a bigger job is that he’s in his first season as a head coach.
Even so, ADs have been monitoring him in earnest since he became Urban Meyer’s playcaller at Ohio State in 2012 -- and especially as Herman helped the Buckeyes to the national title last season, using three quarterbacks from August to January, and won the Broyles Award as the country’s top assistant.
Herman, 40, inherited organizational skills from Meyer, but he’s also got some salesmanship to him. His staff construction has impressed a number of peers, and that’s why gaining head-coaching experience – even if it’s one year – means something, compared to up-and-coming coordinators.
Herman’s $2.25 million buyout, which is in effect for the first three years of his five-year deal, is a hurdle in the minds of ADs, but it will not be a deal-breaker for the right school.
Where he makes sense
Presuming the interviews go well, when the time comes in a month or so, I am under the impression that both Maryland and South Carolina will find a way to take care of the buyout. Herman isn’t a perfect regional fit for the Terps or Gamecocks, but his energy will translate to most any program. Look at the way Herman incorporated skilled, Texas-savvy recruiters when he hadn’t coached in the state since 2008. If you can manage a state as big as Texas, Maryland and South Carolina are going to feel like a handful of counties.
But it also means you have to be better outside the state, and Herman knows both the Midwest and Southeast from his coaching background.
Bear in mind: Like Fuente, and especially with the way he’s recruiting at UH, Herman could very well hold out for a better job.
3. Matt Rhule, Temple
Those who know Rhule say he aspires to coach at his alma mater, Penn State. Well, PSU isn’t open right now, but it would behoove Rhule to find an intermediate Power 5 job as a middle ground for resume-building.
The next two weeks will be proving grounds for Rhule’s current program: The Owls are on a short week Thursday at East Carolina – welcome to Group-of-5 life, right? – and then they host Notre Dame on Halloween. Get through that 2-0, and Rhule will be move toward Fuente on this list.
The 27-10 season-opening win against PSU already demonstrated Temple isn’t standing down against quality competition.
Where he makes sense
Maryland. But will Maryland figure that out?
“You know those situations where a school thinks it can get Coach X, Y and Z – and it really can’t get any of them, and it starts panicking when it’s down to its third, fourth, fifth choice?” an agent told me recently. “Searches require self-awareness. You’ve got to know who you are.”
Maryland, namely backed by Under Armour CEO Kevin Plank, wants to make a big splash; everyone knows that. But sometimes a smart hire, such as Rhule, trumps a sexy one. Learn from Tennessee’s mistake when it went after Lane Kiffin.
4. Matt Campbell, Toledo
The fourth-year coach defies logic: He’s just 35, and yet he is regarded in coaching circles as a mature program-builder and teacher of discipline.
In a league that tried to base its image on crazy midweek games – think: MACtion – 6-0 Toledo is a respectable 31st in yards-per-play defense, and it’s seventh in scoring, despite games – and wins – against Arkansas and Iowa State. A mid-November tilt with high-powered Bowling Green is the biggest remaining challenge for the Rockets.
As an aside, the race for a New Year’s Six bowl berth is going to be great theater. We’re going to wind up comparing Power 5 wins, and Toledo’s are likely to stack up well if the Rockets can keep winning in the MAC.
Where he makes sense
Like Temple, Toledo is an Under Armour school. Campbell makes a great deal of sense for Maryland, as well. Rhule and Campbell both look and sound like coaches who are going to win a bunch of games on the Power 5 level.
5. Jeff Brohm, Western Kentucky head coach
If you like offense, the 44-year-old Brohm – Louisville’s quarterback in the early 1990s – is almost certainly your guy.
Fuente and Memphis knocked off an OK SEC team at home, but Brohm will turn heads if his Hilltoppers can hang with LSU on the road for even a half. It would be shocking if WKU didn’t at least score, considering it is sixth in the country in both yards per play and scoring.
Games against Power 5 opponents become showcases or de facto auditions. Like with Fuente or Rhule, this is an opportunity for Brohm.
Where he makes sense
Whoever needs the sizzle the most, a.k.a. the AD most desiring offense. Maybe it’s time Iowa State goes all-in on spread and tempo concepts -- not just the current staff playing catchup.
Next five
Chad Morris, SMU head coach
He’s 1-5, but everyone knows how far SMU has come in a year. Still, I would like to see where he takes the Ponies from here. If or when Kevin Sumlin moves on, Morris would seem to be a fit at his alma mater. Morris has a $3 million buyout. Like Herman, if the right, deep-pocketed school needs a coach, that will not be a deterrent.
Lane Kiffin, Alabama offensive coordinator
Enough time removed from USC failure? What he’s done with so-so quarterback play in 1.5 seasons at Bama has been pretty remarkable. And surely he has learned applicable lessons from his boss in Tuscaloosa. Surely.
P.J. Fleck, Western Michigan head coach
If the Broncos were better than 3-3, his name would have appeared above. Fleck, 34, is a ball of energy – and sometimes he’s criticized for it in coaching circles. (Just like Penn State’s James Franklin, for one.) But think of a program such as Purdue, which could greatly use someone pumping life into it. There are certain guys who can make any school seem cool, regardless of circumstance or reality, and Fleck is one.
Everett Withers, James Madison head coach
I'm hearing more and more buzz for Withers, who guided UNC through the onset of its NCAA adversity and is currently 16-4 at JMU (7-0 this season). Withers is 52, and he has one of the youngest staffs in football. (Disclamer: I wrote this before GameDay announced it is going to JMU this week. I swear.)
Dino Babers, Bowling Green head coach
The Falcons, as mentioned earlier in regard to the MAC race, are one of the most entertaining teams in Division I college football. They’re mid-major Baylor.
That became evident when quarterback Matt Johnson and the offense went for 11 plays of 20-plus yards in a season-opening loss to Tennessee. From there, BG went on to get Power 5 wins at Maryland and Purdue.
The obvious takeaway there: If you’re looking for a new coach in the Big Ten, Babers already knows how to get conference victories.
Are you going to source that? lol
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Post by: CNS on October 19, 2015, 02:11:49 PM
All else equal, wouldn't a tx guy be better for recruiting reasons?
Herman spent time at ISU, so he's kicked around the conference. Fuente is from Tulsa and coached at TCU.
Both have Texas ties. Fuente may be more likely to keep the Southeast pipeline going. He does work in TN, AL, MS, GA, etc. already.
Well, I am fine with either, then. you guys choose and let Currie know.
Post by: steve dave on October 19, 2015, 02:26:31 PM
Post by: CNS on October 19, 2015, 02:28:13 PM
Post by: scottwildcat on October 19, 2015, 02:28:19 PM
I look at that list of likely openings, and I'd like our chances for Fuente if we ponied up the cash and moved fast (i.e. 12/7).
Yeah maybe, I just in my gut don't think Snyder retires after this year, or that ADJC has the fortitude to force him out.
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Post by: sonofdaxjones on October 19, 2015, 02:28:43 PM
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Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 19, 2015, 02:30:39 PM
We already pay our current guy $3 million a year, that's more than double their current salary, almost triple Herman's current salary.
We don't have to outbid Memphis or Houston. We have to outbid the perception that some major program is going to come snatch them up in a year or two.
Post by: steve dave on October 19, 2015, 02:30:50 PM
We already pay our current guy $3 million a year, that's more than double their current salary, almost triple Herman's current salary.
yeah, but I think both guys are in for a payday of that size whether we come calling or not. at that point we either have to pay more than the other person or be the better job. and we aren't going to to be the better job.
Post by: kslim on October 19, 2015, 02:30:52 PM
Post by: TopCat on October 19, 2015, 02:30:59 PM
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Post by: troubledscribe on October 19, 2015, 02:34:24 PM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 19, 2015, 02:36:42 PM
Post by: POWL on October 19, 2015, 02:36:56 PM
We already pay our current guy $3 million a year, that's more than double their current salary, almost triple Herman's current salary.do you think Currie will pay 3.6 ? ..........I sure do
Post by: CHONGS on October 19, 2015, 02:38:14 PM
could be acquired on the cheap...:Chirp:
Post by: catastrophe on October 19, 2015, 02:43:28 PM
Let's say we don't get our first, second, or even third choice. At the end of the day, K-State is not a very hard job. There are tons of assistants out there who would make a fine head coach here. Hell, Ron Prince took the job and got Josh Freeman to commit like a week later, and hired 2 coaches that went on to be head coaches in the NFL and Penn State. Our facilities are much better now, so we should be able to do better than Prince. I think the majority of coaches out there could win 6-7 games per year at K-State. We just need a little bit of luck to find someone who can win 8-10 per year.
If Snyder retires at an awkward time with a limited pool of good replacements, I wonder if Currie would consider making Sean interim HC just to bide time.
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 19, 2015, 02:45:23 PM
Let's say we don't get our first, second, or even third choice. At the end of the day, K-State is not a very hard job. There are tons of assistants out there who would make a fine head coach here. Hell, Ron Prince took the job and got Josh Freeman to commit like a week later, and hired 2 coaches that went on to be head coaches in the NFL and Penn State. Our facilities are much better now, so we should be able to do better than Prince. I think the majority of coaches out there could win 6-7 games per year at K-State. We just need a little bit of luck to find someone who can win 8-10 per year.
If Snyder retires at an awkward time with a limited pool of good replacements, I wonder if Currie would consider making Sean interim HC just to bide time.
I don't believe Sean is one of the coaches who could win 6-7 games per year at KSU, fwiw.
Post by: Skipper44 on October 19, 2015, 02:46:54 PM
we would have to crack open a scrooge mcduck tower of gold doubloons to get either of those guys. they're already out of our league.
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Currently open: Illinois, Maryland, South Carolina and USC
Likely opening (likeliest to least): Virginia, Miami, Purdue
Only the USCs are clearly a better job and have made the same commitment to football that we have. Maryland is a bit of wild card with the UA guy but he didn't have enough sway to get them to hire Leach 2011.
I really just want BV, it makes so much sense my head (and heart) hurts knowing it will never happen
Post by: CHONGS on October 19, 2015, 02:54:32 PM
yas the correct tie color!
Post by: CHONGS on October 19, 2015, 02:58:13 PM
KANSAS CONNECTION!
Post by: CHONGS on October 19, 2015, 03:00:59 PM
seems jolly
Post by: MakeItRain on October 19, 2015, 03:02:32 PM
Post by: CHONGS on October 19, 2015, 03:02:57 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on October 19, 2015, 03:04:59 PM
Let's say we don't get our first, second, or even third choice. At the end of the day, K-State is not a very hard job. There are tons of assistants out there who would make a fine head coach here. Hell, Ron Prince took the job and got Josh Freeman to commit like a week later, and hired 2 coaches that went on to be head coaches in the NFL and Penn State. Our facilities are much better now, so we should be able to do better than Prince. I think the majority of coaches out there could win 6-7 games per year at K-State. We just need a little bit of luck to find someone who can win 8-10 per year.
We would be able to get Fleck instead of this faceless, milquetoast person, although I'm not sure Fleck is someone Currie would hire.
Post by: kslim on October 19, 2015, 03:08:07 PM
Soooooo did everyone miss my picture of Kirby Smart?not a chance in hell he crosses west of the mississippi river
Post by: troubledscribe on October 19, 2015, 03:08:52 PM
Post by: CHONGS on October 19, 2015, 03:10:38 PM
A rising star in the MAC!
Post by: CNS on October 19, 2015, 03:11:21 PM
Post by: CHONGS on October 19, 2015, 03:13:19 PM
Seems like it is a lot of effort to put names under pics.I am sorry, but if you knew even a little bit about big-time college football these would be household name. The fact that you don't recognize the faces of the hottest coaches just lets you know are are out of your depth in here.
Post by: Skipper44 on October 19, 2015, 03:14:18 PM
Also, he is making 1.35 and could be in a spot to be HC at Alabama sooner rather than later - it will take a great job to get him out of T-townSoooooo did everyone miss my picture of Kirby Smart?not a chance in hell he crosses west of the mississippi river
Post by: _33 on October 19, 2015, 03:15:39 PM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on October 19, 2015, 03:16:11 PM
http://www.nj.com/rutgersfootball/index.ssf/2015/02/wife_of_western_michigan_booster_sues_message_boar.html
Post by: CHONGS on October 19, 2015, 03:19:00 PM
That is the look of a man ready to step up and be the head coach of major football program located in Kansas. Can you imagine him in cowboy boots and a hat? Howdy!
Post by: CHONGS on October 19, 2015, 03:22:50 PM
Kansas ties!!
Post by: kslim on October 19, 2015, 03:25:33 PM
he is headed to georgia when the chance arises, probably after his stint at USCeAlso, he is making 1.35 and could be in a spot to be HC at Alabama sooner rather than later - it will take a great job to get him out of T-townSoooooo did everyone miss my picture of Kirby Smart?not a chance in hell he crosses west of the mississippi river
Post by: MakeItRain on October 19, 2015, 03:32:22 PM
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YES! PJ Fleck was on his staff at Tampa.
Post by: steve dave on October 19, 2015, 03:34:37 PM
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Post by: troubledscribe on October 19, 2015, 03:40:09 PM
rumblings Bryan McGinnis may be making another run at this thing
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Not a chance. #FleckU #TheEliteLiveHere
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Post by: Trim on October 19, 2015, 04:52:31 PM
Post by: DQ12 on October 19, 2015, 04:59:15 PM
Post by: wetwillie on October 19, 2015, 06:57:49 PM
Post by: bshea85 on October 19, 2015, 08:08:24 PM
I still think Scott frost is a hot piece of ass
He's too Nebraskan-ish. Just Wikipedia him, Nebraska comes up no less than 16 times.
Post by: PIPE on October 19, 2015, 08:08:51 PM
Post by: _33 on October 19, 2015, 09:43:57 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on October 19, 2015, 09:46:34 PM
Post by: meow meow on October 19, 2015, 09:47:41 PM
Post by: chunkles on October 19, 2015, 10:02:10 PM
Post by: Panjandrum on October 19, 2015, 11:49:04 PM
Him recruiting with Vanier 2.0 could be entertaining.
Post by: MakeItRain on October 19, 2015, 11:55:34 PM
I will say this about PJ Fleck...
Him recruiting with Vanier 2.0 could be entertaining.
He is the complete opposite of LHC Bill Snyder. Young, energetic, media aware, peers hate him, is an amazing recruiter, doesn't appear as if he can coach for crap.
Post by: Panjandrum on October 19, 2015, 11:57:47 PM
I will say this about PJ Fleck...
Him recruiting with Vanier 2.0 could be entertaining.
He is the complete opposite of LHC Bill Snyder. Young, energetic, media aware, peers hate him, is an amazing recruiter, doesn't appear as if he can coach for crap.
Oh, I know. I just think Dec-Feb would be entertaining.
Post by: WildcatNation on October 20, 2015, 01:30:27 AM
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YES! PJ Fleck was on his staff at Tampa.
Not sure why he doesn't get more love. I think he could win a lot of games here. Probably too close to the Prince fiasco for the tucks though.
Post by: michigancat on October 20, 2015, 07:43:15 AM
Well, Snyder doesn't appear he can coach for crap, either this season.I will say this about PJ Fleck...
Him recruiting with Vanier 2.0 could be entertaining.
He is the complete opposite of LHC Bill Snyder. Young, energetic, media aware, peers hate him, is an amazing recruiter, doesn't appear as if he can coach for crap.
Snyder is also very media aware (more than he lets on)
Post by: OK_Cat on October 20, 2015, 09:06:55 AM
Post by: PowercatPat on October 24, 2015, 12:11:00 PM
Post by: Stevesie60 on October 24, 2015, 12:25:11 PM
I really want Fuente.
Herman >> Fuente
Post by: chum1 on October 24, 2015, 12:31:41 PM
Post by: MixBerryCrunch on October 24, 2015, 12:42:06 PM
Post by: chum1 on October 24, 2015, 12:44:32 PM
Post by: Katpappy on October 24, 2015, 01:53:12 PM
I really want Fuente.Want :pray:
Post by: Katpappy on October 24, 2015, 01:54:14 PM
Venables looking good today.When hasn't he!?!? :love:
Post by: WonderMeal on October 24, 2015, 02:22:18 PM
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Bob Stitt--Montana HC. This guy looks like he buries his money in the backyard and has an unbelievably strong handshake without even trying.
Previously: head coach at Colorado School of Mines, OC at Harvard, OC at Northern Colorado.
Known for: being an offensive mastermind, using advanced stats to make decisions re: onside kicks/going for it on fourth down (was 19 of 25 on 4th down in 2014), loving his wife deeply but probably not talking to her much at dinner every night because that's just not who he is.
Pros:
-Runs a very QB-friendly system
-_FAN would probably love him
-Gettable
-1-0 against NDSU
Cons:
-Spent most of his career out West or in the Northeast. Gross.
-Probably doesn't show much affection to his kids
http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2014/10/17/6993475/bob-stitt-coach-offense-colorado-school-mines
(http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2014/10/17/6993475/bob-stitt-coach-offense-colorado-school-mines) http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2015/9/4/9241843/bob-stitt-offense-montana (http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2015/9/4/9241843/bob-stitt-offense-montana)
Post by: Katpappy on October 24, 2015, 02:32:59 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on October 24, 2015, 02:43:45 PM
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Bob Stitt--Montana HC. This guy looks like he buries his money in the backyard and has an unbelievably strong handshake without even trying.
Previously: head coach at Colorado School of Mines, OC at Harvard, OC at Northern Colorado.
Known for: being an offensive mastermind, using advanced stats to make decisions re: onside kicks/going for it on fourth down (was 19 of 25 on 4th down in 2014), loving his wife deeply but probably not talking to her much at dinner every night because that's just not who he is.
Pros:
-Runs a very QB-friendly system
-_FAN would probably love him
-Gettable
-1-0 against NDSU
Cons:
-Spent most of his career out West or in the Northeast. Gross.
-Probably doesn't show much affection to his kids
http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2014/10/17/6993475/bob-stitt-coach-offense-colorado-school-mines
(http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2014/10/17/6993475/bob-stitt-coach-offense-colorado-school-mines) http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2015/9/4/9241843/bob-stitt-offense-montana (http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2015/9/4/9241843/bob-stitt-offense-montana)
Should go in pros
Post by: WonderMeal on October 24, 2015, 02:44:04 PM
Would actually love to hear _FAN's take on the guy.
Post by: MakeItRain on October 24, 2015, 04:06:22 PM
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Bob Stitt--Montana HC. This guy looks like he buries his money in the backyard and has an unbelievably strong handshake without even trying.
Previously: head coach at Colorado School of Mines, OC at Harvard, OC at Northern Colorado.
Known for: being an offensive mastermind, using advanced stats to make decisions re: onside kicks/going for it on fourth down (was 19 of 25 on 4th down in 2014), loving his wife deeply but probably not talking to her much at dinner every night because that's just not who he is.
Pros:
-Runs a very QB-friendly system
-_FAN would probably love him
-Gettable
-1-0 against NDSU
Cons:
-Spent most of his career out West or in the Northeast. Gross.
-Probably doesn't show much affection to his kids
http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2014/10/17/6993475/bob-stitt-coach-offense-colorado-school-mines
(http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2014/10/17/6993475/bob-stitt-coach-offense-colorado-school-mines) http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2015/9/4/9241843/bob-stitt-offense-montana (http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2015/9/4/9241843/bob-stitt-offense-montana)
Yes, he would be great to replace DanaDel.
Post by: Trim on October 24, 2015, 04:13:28 PM
Post by: scottwildcat on October 24, 2015, 05:08:34 PM
Post by: pvegs on October 24, 2015, 07:56:28 PM
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If LHC Bill Snyder retires at the end of the year, Clemson can give their regards to Brent Venables, he will be gone immediately to Kansas State
Post by: DOD Take 2 on October 24, 2015, 08:02:35 PM
QuoteIf LHC Bill Snyder retires at the end of the year, Clemson can give their regards to Brent Venables, he will be gone immediately to Kansas State
Where was this quoted from?
Post by: Katpappy on October 24, 2015, 08:08:47 PM
Post by: catastrophe on October 24, 2015, 08:14:57 PM
Post by: scottwildcat on October 24, 2015, 08:51:21 PM
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Post by: wetwillie on October 24, 2015, 09:34:19 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on October 25, 2015, 12:15:49 AM
Post by: EllRobersonisInnocent on October 25, 2015, 01:03:47 AM
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Post by: bones129 on October 25, 2015, 01:11:33 AM
Lane Kiffin
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Poison. :runaway:
Post by: catastrophe on October 25, 2015, 09:12:33 AM
Post by: lopakman on October 25, 2015, 09:56:27 AM
What if someone spent roughly $5k to create a slight smear on one of their records? Mini scandal of some sort? :dunno:
Can do!
Post by: CNS on October 25, 2015, 10:42:55 AM
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Post by: slackcat on October 25, 2015, 12:43:47 PM
QuoteIf LHC Bill Snyder retires at the end of the year, Clemson can give their regards to Brent Venables, he will be gone immediately to Kansas State
c'mon, fess up. :impatient:
Post by: PowercatPat on October 25, 2015, 01:44:35 PM
Post by: pvegs on October 25, 2015, 01:45:41 PM
https://twitter.com/Rip1Phillips/status/658029299996446720
thanks pp, i just got busy yesterday and didn't have the oppy to cite. venzy would be exciting, no?
Post by: MakeItRain on October 25, 2015, 02:57:09 PM
https://twitter.com/Rip1Phillips/status/658029299996446720
thanks pp, i just got busy yesterday and didn't have the oppy to cite. venzy would be exciting, no?
It'd be okay I guess but Currie won't hire him. Also worth noting that Fleck, Fuente, and Herman are all younger than BV.
Post by: star seed 7 on October 25, 2015, 02:58:06 PM
Post by: wetwillie on October 25, 2015, 03:09:55 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on October 25, 2015, 03:11:48 PM
George O'Leary kind of fired himself at UCF, so he is available, unless they keep him as AD. Also not younger than Herman, Fuente, or Flick
I'm pretty sure he's only the interim AD.
Post by: CHONGS on October 25, 2015, 06:57:03 PM
Post by: pvegs on October 25, 2015, 07:11:25 PM
Dax!!! The greatest football coach ever is available now!!! Your dream could come true!!
Is this Al Golden or someone else?
Post by: Tobias on October 25, 2015, 07:17:14 PM
Post by: Trim on October 25, 2015, 07:35:04 PM
Post by: wetwillie on October 25, 2015, 07:46:30 PM
al checks all the boxes
trading in our wind breakers and cortez shoes for pleated khaki's and a neck tie.
Post by: Katpappy on October 25, 2015, 07:51:41 PM
Discarded Miami Football Trash > Discarded Illinois Basketball TrashWe don't need Prince's DC buddy from Virginia. But yea Currie is crazy enough to hire another high rated failure. But if he does, he better have an exit plan.thanks
Post by: EllRobersonisInnocent on October 25, 2015, 07:56:12 PM
Post by: wetwillie on October 25, 2015, 07:57:21 PM
Discarded Miami Football Trash > Discarded Illinois Basketball TrashWe don't need Prince's DC buddy from Virginia. But yea Currie is crazy enough to hire another high rated failure. But if he does, he better have an exit plan.thanks
Had no idea he was the DC at Virginia with Prince. The cards are lining up for Prince 2.0 #princeforKSU2.0
Post by: Katpappy on October 25, 2015, 08:02:20 PM
Yes it's :lol: but also :frown:Discarded Miami Football Trash > Discarded Illinois Basketball TrashWe don't need Prince's DC buddy from Virginia. But yea Currie is crazy enough to hire another high rated failure. But if he does, he better have an exit plan.thanks
Had no idea he was the DC at Virginia with Prince. The cards are lining up for Prince 2.0 #princeforKSU2.0
Post by: OK_Cat on October 25, 2015, 08:23:08 PM
Lane Kiffin is the solution to all of our problems.
He's tarnished enough that we could probably get him for cheap
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on October 25, 2015, 10:49:51 PM
Lane Kiffin is the solution to all of our problems.
He's tarnished enough that we could probably get him for cheap
Currie was a Tennessee when he got hired. :gocho:
Post by: Blackcats on October 25, 2015, 10:56:08 PM
Lane Kiffin is the solution to all of our problems.
He's tarnished enough that we could probably get him for cheap
Currie was a Tennessee when he got hired. :gocho:
Currie headed the search committee that picked Kiffen.
Post by: bones129 on October 26, 2015, 01:36:20 AM
Discarded Miami Football Trash > Discarded Illinois Basketball Trash
True, but Golden is still not a good hire for KSU.
Post by: SkinnyBenny on October 26, 2015, 06:11:40 AM
Lane Kiffin is the solution to all of our problems.
lol
Post by: sonofdaxjones on October 26, 2015, 07:48:11 AM
LK wasn't a bad choice for Tenn. at all, no one had any idea the USC job was going to open and he was going to bail, at the time it looked like a slam dunk hire for Tenn.
The simple facts are, the waters are getting very rough, this program looks completely rudderless right now. If it is truly as Bill says it is, and Sean is running the show, then it's not good. A special team player waving off a kickoff should be grounds for immediate dismissal as a special teams coach.
Post by: catastrophe on October 26, 2015, 08:49:09 AM
Post by: TownieCat on October 26, 2015, 09:22:56 AM
Post by: CNS on October 26, 2015, 09:28:02 AM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 26, 2015, 09:44:37 AM
Post by: EllRobersonisInnocent on October 26, 2015, 10:40:36 AM
Are there a lot of swingers in Manhattan? It may make a difference on whether or not Kiffin would even consider coming here.
I've been a part of the MHK swingers scene for a little over a year now. There's more than you'd think.
Post by: TownieCat on October 26, 2015, 12:23:59 PM
Post by: scottwildcat on October 26, 2015, 12:27:35 PM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on October 26, 2015, 12:29:46 PM
Not . . . A . . . ONE
Post by: chum1 on October 26, 2015, 12:37:45 PM
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If Barnett sounds as if he’s still passionate about college football, it’s because he is. At 68, he’s still interested in a return to coaching and even expressed interest in the vacancy at Kansas created when ex-Notre Dame coach Charlie Weis was fired this season.http://chicago.suntimes.com/colleges/7/71/148053/whats-up-with-ex-northwestern-coach-gary-barnett
Post by: scottwildcat on October 26, 2015, 01:09:03 PM
Younger than Bill:QuoteIf Barnett sounds as if he’s still passionate about college football, it’s because he is. At 68, he’s still interested in a return to coaching and even expressed interest in the vacancy at Kansas created when ex-Notre Dame coach Charlie Weis was fired this season.http://chicago.suntimes.com/colleges/7/71/148053/whats-up-with-ex-northwestern-coach-gary-barnett
No thanks
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Post by: MakeItRain on October 26, 2015, 04:10:28 PM
Younger than Bill:QuoteIf Barnett sounds as if he’s still passionate about college football, it’s because he is. At 68, he’s still interested in a return to coaching and even expressed interest in the vacancy at Kansas created when ex-Notre Dame coach Charlie Weis was fired this season.http://chicago.suntimes.com/colleges/7/71/148053/whats-up-with-ex-northwestern-coach-gary-barnett
LOL
Post by: ksuilander on October 26, 2015, 04:18:18 PM
http://www.campusrush.com/al-golden-miami-usc-coaching-corousel-1423076703.html
Post by: Dugout DickStone on October 26, 2015, 04:27:00 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on October 26, 2015, 04:30:37 PM
why on earth would be considered a bottom tier job considering our history the last 20 some years? is everything bill done been for naught??
http://www.campusrush.com/al-golden-miami-usc-coaching-corousel-1423076703.html
LOL at creating a user name with ksu in it to post this twice. Do you think we're rough ridin' stupid? Try again with the KU user name and actually post with some balls.
Post by: MakeItRain on October 26, 2015, 04:31:49 PM
Post by: TownieCat on October 26, 2015, 04:37:41 PM
Despite your perception of our beloved KSU, many people around the country still view this as a bottom tier job. It mostly has to do with no one sustaining success here during the nearly 100 seasons of football not coached by Snyder.
Again, welcome to the blog.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 26, 2015, 04:38:20 PM
why on earth would be considered a bottom tier job considering our history the last 20 some years? is everything bill done been for naught??
http://www.campusrush.com/al-golden-miami-usc-coaching-corousel-1423076703.html
LOL at creating a user name with ksu in it to post this twice. Do you think we're rough ridin' stupid? Try again with the KU user name and actually post with some balls.
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Post by: Trim on October 26, 2015, 04:39:17 PM
actually post with some balls.
:frown:
Post by: ksuilander on October 26, 2015, 04:43:39 PM
Post by: wetwillie on October 26, 2015, 04:45:36 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on October 26, 2015, 04:54:02 PM
Isn't he like a qb whisperer? And also isn't he employed?
O'Brien, he got that rep from working with Brady and Matt Cassel after Brady got hurt. Is he employed? Yeah, but not for long; the Texans are a disaster, absolutely horrible.
Post by: Gooch on October 26, 2015, 05:22:21 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on October 26, 2015, 05:40:05 PM
He cusses to much for our tuck fan-bases delicate sensibilities.
K-State Hard Knocks :love:
Post by: TheHamburglar on October 27, 2015, 10:40:57 AM
Post by: Panjandrum on October 27, 2015, 11:39:40 AM
What about Bill O'Brien? I like.
That's an interesting take. I'd be down with that.
Post by: EMAWforever on October 27, 2015, 12:24:05 PM
Post by: meow meow on October 27, 2015, 01:08:46 PM
Instead of waiting 5-10 years with 2-3 HC's in between, why don't we just promote CK to HC now.
sounds awful
Post by: catastrophe on October 27, 2015, 01:27:41 PM
Instead of waiting 5-10 years with 2-3 HC's in between, why don't we just promote CK to HC now.
Has his head recovered from our offense? That might impact my thoughts on this.
Post by: Katpappy on October 27, 2015, 02:11:11 PM
This is delightful post; as a mater of fact, it's probably one of his best posts. ;) :thumbsup:Instead of waiting 5-10 years with 2-3 HC's in between, why don't we just promote CK to HC now.
sounds awful
Post by: SdK on October 28, 2015, 04:55:15 AM
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Post by: scottwildcat on October 28, 2015, 08:55:25 AM
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Post by: Cire on October 28, 2015, 09:24:15 AM
He is an innovator which is really important when you are undertalented.
Post by: MakeItRain on October 28, 2015, 10:53:37 AM
Stitt would be intriguing, especially if he continues having success at Montana.
He is an innovator which is really important when you are undertalented.
Well he's 4-3 in his first year at Montana with losses to Weber State, Cal Poly, and Turner Gill's Liberty Flames. His vaunted offense is averaging a blistering 27 ppg. Sooooo can we please stop talking about him in hope/change/dreams thread and maybe save him for the guy we'd pick if like 12 people told us no thread?
Post by: troubledscribe on October 28, 2015, 11:04:15 AM
Post by: porky morgan on October 28, 2015, 11:47:54 AM
Post by: XocolateThundarr on October 29, 2015, 12:43:36 AM
actually post with some balls.
:frown:
Post by: bones129 on October 29, 2015, 01:18:21 AM
Post by: O-town Kat on October 29, 2015, 09:12:44 AM
This is going to be a fascinating coaching carousel. So many jobs open.Idk. USC has a weird infatuation with hiring NFL ties or ties to their program. If Claeys at Minny does well the rest of the way, they may just promote him. Illinois and Maryland will hire turds. The U hire will disappoint again.
SEC schools love the hot assistant or rising star hires from their league/area so that could be interesting.
Sean should go cut his teeth on that UNT job.
Post by: meow meow on October 29, 2015, 09:35:43 AM
Post by: TownieCat on October 29, 2015, 10:30:58 AM
I heard Claeys is from Clay Center, KS. I'm sure he's GPC's leading candidate to replace The Legend!He is, and he looks exactly like you would expect someone from CC to look.
Post by: deputy dawg on October 29, 2015, 12:17:32 PM
Post by: Katpappy on October 29, 2015, 01:36:47 PM
So, is Bielma an unworthy candidate if he's fired at Arky?Beat Auburn in OT last week; definitely not getting fired.
Post by: MakeItRain on October 29, 2015, 02:19:17 PM
So, is Bielma an unworthy candidate if he's fired at Arky?Beat Auburn in OT last week; definitely not getting fired.
Has a $12 million buyout, definitely not getting fired
Post by: Missouriscribe on October 30, 2015, 08:26:37 AM
So, is Bielma an unworthy candidate if he's fired at Arky?Beat Auburn in OT last week; definitely not getting fired.
Has a $12 million buyout, definitely not getting fired
Coaches for a fanbase/school that kept on Houston Nutt for the better part of a decade. Not getting fired.
Post by: deputy dawg on October 30, 2015, 08:28:12 AM
Post by: slackcat on October 30, 2015, 10:49:44 AM
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Post by: MakeItRain on October 30, 2015, 12:23:47 PM
Wasn't he shot down over Pennsylvania??
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Post by: troubledscribe on October 30, 2015, 08:10:41 PM
I heard Claeys is from Clay Center, KS. I'm sure he's GPC's leading candidate to replace The Legend!He is, and he looks exactly like you would expect someone from CC to look.
This guy would be the absolute worst candidate. He would send wildcat football back to the dark ages.
Post by: wetwillie on October 30, 2015, 08:59:03 PM
I heard Claeys is from Clay Center, KS. I'm sure he's GPC's leading candidate to replace The Legend!He is, and he looks exactly like you would expect someone from CC to look.
This guy would be the absolute worst candidate. He would send wildcat football back to the dark ages.
like being 2-7 in conference?
Post by: ELL3 on October 31, 2015, 10:48:18 AM
Kill just retired at MN, another P5 job open.
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After being seizure free for a year or two, Jerry will get that itch to coach and he is PERFECT for Jon Currie
In December of 2016 a rejuvenated Jerry Kills comes "home"
Post by: bucket on October 31, 2015, 11:02:18 AM
I heard Claeys is from Clay Center, KS. I'm sure he's GPC's leading candidate to replace The Legend!He is, and he looks exactly like you would expect someone from CC to look.
This guy would be the absolute worst candidate. He would send wildcat football back to the dark ages.
like being 2-7 in conference?
Down year. Not the dark ages. :Take the Bait:
Post by: scottwildcat on October 31, 2015, 04:34:57 PM
Kill just retired at MN, another P5 job open.
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After being seizure free for a year or two, Jerry will get that itch to coach and he is PERFECT for Jon Currie
In December of 2016 a rejuvenated Jerry Kills comes "home"
i would not renew my season tickets.
Post by: SkinnyBenny on November 01, 2015, 09:56:46 PM
Post by: meow meow on November 02, 2015, 08:43:47 AM
Post by: LifeWaters on November 05, 2015, 05:51:52 PM
http://www.georgiadogs.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/mark_richt_12612.html
Post by: ednksu on November 05, 2015, 11:21:20 PM
Nice guy, head coach experience, recruiting ties, and SEC guy = Currie's wet dreamwould kill small baby seal for him to be our OC
http://www.georgiadogs.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/mark_richt_12612.html
Post by: MakeItRain on November 05, 2015, 11:43:54 PM
Nice guy, head coach experience, recruiting ties, and SEC guy = Currie's wet dreamwould kill small baby seal for him to be our OC
http://www.georgiadogs.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/mark_richt_12612.html
What? If he ever leaves Georgia and wants to coach somewhere he would be selected to be the head coach at all but about half a dozen power 5 schools. OC, lol.
Post by: scottwildcat on November 05, 2015, 11:54:36 PM
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Post by: O-town Kat on November 05, 2015, 11:57:17 PM
No kidding. Would prefer some new or old familiarity w/the B12 and recruiting territory in a new HC, but for a guy who could be considered in Currie's wheel house, would take Richt as HC.Nice guy, head coach experience, recruiting ties, and SEC guy = Currie's wet dreamwould kill small baby seal for him to be our OC
http://www.georgiadogs.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/mark_richt_12612.html
What? If he ever leaves Georgia and wants to coach somewhere he would be selected to be the head coach at all but about half a dozen power 5 schools. OC, lol.
Post by: MadCat on November 06, 2015, 02:30:35 AM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 06, 2015, 06:49:17 AM
Post by: slackcat on November 06, 2015, 06:58:18 AM
Post by: TheHamburglar on November 06, 2015, 07:35:15 AM
The Bowling Green coach was an assistant at Baylor, AtM, and Arizona.
He lost his two Co-OCs from last year to Tulsa to work under former Baylor OC Philip Montgomery. One is 33 year old Mike Mattox. He is originally from Holton and has coached at both Butler and Coffeyville. The other is Sterlin Gilbert, a former West Texas HS coach of the year who went with Babers to Eastern Illinois, where he coached Jimmy Garapalo. I'd be pretty optimistic Dino could bring them with him to form a strong set of recruiters.
Post by: kso_FAN on November 06, 2015, 08:17:17 AM
Nice guy, head coach experience, recruiting ties, and SEC guy = Currie's wet dream
http://www.georgiadogs.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/mark_richt_12612.html
If any K-State fan would be disappointed in hiring Richt they would be complete idiots. JMHO.
Post by: meow meow on November 06, 2015, 08:49:37 AM
Post by: Shooter Jones on November 06, 2015, 03:13:42 PM
Nice guy, head coach experience, recruiting ties, and SEC guy = Currie's wet dream
http://www.georgiadogs.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/mark_richt_12612.html
If any K-State fan would be disappointed in hiring Richt they would be complete idiots. JMHO.
It's MHO as well.
Post by: Canary on November 06, 2015, 03:21:31 PM
And mine. I am on the record as being a MR fan. Have been for years.Nice guy, head coach experience, recruiting ties, and SEC guy = Currie's wet dream
http://www.georgiadogs.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/mark_richt_12612.html
If any K-State fan would be disappointed in hiring Richt they would be complete idiots. JMHO.
It's MHO as well.
Post by: wetwillie on November 06, 2015, 06:04:29 PM
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Post by: MakeItRain on November 06, 2015, 07:11:53 PM
Post by: ednksu on November 06, 2015, 08:13:43 PM
lol you idiots. I didn't say he would be our OC and you'd have to be pretty rough ridin' stupid to not take him as OC. Look at his resume as an OC and tell me you wouldn't take him in a heart beat.No kidding. Would prefer some new or old familiarity w/the B12 and recruiting territory in a new HC, but for a guy who could be considered in Currie's wheel house, would take Richt as HC.Nice guy, head coach experience, recruiting ties, and SEC guy = Currie's wet dreamwould kill small baby seal for him to be our OC
http://www.georgiadogs.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/mark_richt_12612.html
What? If he ever leaves Georgia and wants to coach somewhere he would be selected to be the head coach at all but about half a dozen power 5 schools. OC, lol.
Post by: wetwillie on November 06, 2015, 08:16:42 PM
He's the AD at Youngstown State, he hired Bo and Carl and he's a billion years old.
he is only 62, good grief.
Post by: MakeItRain on November 07, 2015, 01:00:25 AM
He's the AD at Youngstown State, he hired Bo and Carl and he's a billion years old.
he is only 62, good grief.
Wow, those are some hard years, he's not aging well. Anyway as far as being a power 5 head coach he's a billion years old. The two hottest coaching candidates are 20 years younger and PJ Fleck is half his age.
Post by: MakeItRain on November 07, 2015, 01:03:03 AM
lol you idiots. I didn't say he would be our OC and you'd have to be pretty rough ridin' stupid to not take him as OC. Look at his resume as an OC and tell me you wouldn't take him in a heart beat.No kidding. Would prefer some new or old familiarity w/the B12 and recruiting territory in a new HC, but for a guy who could be considered in Currie's wheel house, would take Richt as HC.Nice guy, head coach experience, recruiting ties, and SEC guy = Currie's wet dreamwould kill small baby seal for him to be our OC
http://www.georgiadogs.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/mark_richt_12612.html
What? If he ever leaves Georgia and wants to coach somewhere he would be selected to be the head coach at all but about half a dozen power 5 schools. OC, lol.
This rough ridin' guy. The point is why are you talking about him as an OC at all, if he leaves UGA he might get the USC job.
Post by: bones129 on November 07, 2015, 01:44:25 AM
He's the AD at Youngstown State, he hired Bo and Carl and he's a billion years old.
MIR, it's worse than that. He's not the AD--he's actually the President of Youngstown State.
http://web.ysu.edu/president
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Tressel
Post by: wetwillie on November 07, 2015, 05:45:48 AM
He's the AD at Youngstown State, he hired Bo and Carl and he's a billion years old.
he is only 62, good grief.
Wow, those are some hard years, he's not aging well. Anyway as far as being a power 5 head coach he's a billion years old. The two hottest coaching candidates are 20 years younger and PJ Fleck is half his age.
He might not be a good candididate but it's certainly not age related. Old dudes are running college football. The average age of the coaches of the ten best teams right now is 57.
Post by: pvegs on November 07, 2015, 12:28:01 PM
Nice guy, head coach experience, recruiting ties, and SEC guy = Currie's wet dream
http://www.georgiadogs.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/mark_richt_12612.html
If any K-State fan would be disappointed in hiring Richt they would be complete idiots. JMHO.
put me in the complete idiot category. does not excite me at all.
Post by: MakeItRain on November 07, 2015, 12:54:18 PM
He's the AD at Youngstown State, he hired Bo and Carl and he's a billion years old.
he is only 62, good grief.
Wow, those are some hard years, he's not aging well. Anyway as far as being a power 5 head coach he's a billion years old. The two hottest coaching candidates are 20 years younger and PJ Fleck is half his age.
He might not be a good candididate but it's certainly not age related. Old dudes are running college football. The average age of the coaches of the ten best teams right now is 57.
Yeah none of them were in their 60s when they took their jobs. He's old, you don't replace a 76 year old with a guy in his 60s. This is very obvious, I feel like you are arguing for the sake of arguing.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 07, 2015, 12:54:30 PM
Post by: wetwillie on November 07, 2015, 01:18:34 PM
He's the AD at Youngstown State, he hired Bo and Carl and he's a billion years old.
he is only 62, good grief.
Wow, those are some hard years, he's not aging well. Anyway as far as being a power 5 head coach he's a billion years old. The two hottest coaching candidates are 20 years younger and PJ Fleck is half his age.
He might not be a good candididate but it's certainly not age related. Old dudes are running college football. The average age of the coaches of the ten best teams right now is 57.
Yeah none of them were in their 60s when they took their jobs. He's old, you don't replace a 76 year old with a guy in his 60s. This is very obvious, I feel like you are arguing for the sake of arguing.
I disagree that age is relevant to our next hire. I would hire the crap out of 64 year old Mack Brown. I'd also like Fuente or Herman too.
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on November 07, 2015, 01:27:02 PM
Post by: steve dave on November 07, 2015, 01:47:33 PM
I just want to win right away, and if a coach in his 60s gives us the best chance of doing that, then we should hire him.
Yes, absolutely
Post by: MakeItRain on November 07, 2015, 01:51:28 PM
I would hire the crap out of 64 year old Mack Brown.He's the AD at Youngstown State, he hired Bo and Carl and he's a billion years old.
he is only 62, good grief.
Wow, those are some hard years, he's not aging well. Anyway as far as being a power 5 head coach he's a billion years old. The two hottest coaching candidates are 20 years younger and PJ Fleck is half his age.
He might not be a good candididate but it's certainly not age related. Old dudes are running college football. The average age of the coaches of the ten best teams right now is 57.
Yeah none of them were in their 60s when they took their jobs. He's old, you don't replace a 76 year old with a guy in his 60s. This is very obvious, I feel like you are arguing for the sake of arguing.
Oh so we're not doing the thing anymore when we think we're better than hiring a coach that got fired for being terrible at his previous stop? Dude literally stopped recruiting at freaking Texas and you want him at Kansas State, lol.
Post by: MakeItRain on November 07, 2015, 01:52:48 PM
I just want to win right away, and if a coach in his 60s gives us the best chance of doing that, then we should hire him.
Unfortunately none of those exist in the current market.
Post by: wetwillie on November 07, 2015, 02:16:40 PM
I would hire the crap out of 64 year old Mack Brown.He's the AD at Youngstown State, he hired Bo and Carl and he's a billion years old.
he is only 62, good grief.
Wow, those are some hard years, he's not aging well. Anyway as far as being a power 5 head coach he's a billion years old. The two hottest coaching candidates are 20 years younger and PJ Fleck is half his age.
He might not be a good candididate but it's certainly not age related. Old dudes are running college football. The average age of the coaches of the ten best teams right now is 57.
Yeah none of them were in their 60s when they took their jobs. He's old, you don't replace a 76 year old with a guy in his 60s. This is very obvious, I feel like you are arguing for the sake of arguing.
Oh so we're not doing the thing anymore when we think we're better than hiring a coach that got fired for being terrible at his previous stop? Dude literally stopped recruiting at freaking Texas and you want him at Kansas State, lol.
I would take Mack Brown in an instant. I don't agree that he was terrible at his previous stop or that he stopped recruiting.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 07, 2015, 02:20:20 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on November 07, 2015, 02:54:05 PM
It wasn't that Brown stopped recruiting, it actually got to be too easy and they were just taking guys by their high school stud credentials and not properly evaluating how they fit into the system and program.
Quarterback?
Post by: polksalet on November 07, 2015, 03:05:05 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on November 07, 2015, 03:06:32 PM
Hog fans think yall are gonna hire Bielema.
LOL, yall keep thinkin that
Post by: Skipper44 on November 07, 2015, 03:17:24 PM
Post by: DOD Take 2 on November 07, 2015, 05:28:56 PM
It wasn't that Brown stopped recruiting, it actually got to be too easy and they were just taking guys by their high school stud credentials and not properly evaluating how they fit into the system and program.Proper evaluation seems like a major part of recruiting. If you stop doing that then you effectively stopped recruiting.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 07, 2015, 09:00:04 PM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 07, 2015, 09:04:37 PM
It wasn't that Brown stopped recruiting, it actually got to be too easy and they were just taking guys by their high school stud credentials and not properly evaluating how they fit into the system and program.Proper evaluation seems like a major part of recruiting. If you stop doing that then you effectively stopped recruiting.
The dude won a national title and is the winningest or second winningest coach in Texas history. He transformed Texas athletics from a program that while it had money it wasn't as much as you would have thought, into a nearly unrivaled financial super power.
The problem was that recruiting got to be to easy.
Post by: MakeItRain on November 07, 2015, 11:18:27 PM
It wasn't that Brown stopped recruiting, it actually got to be too easy and they were just taking guys by their high school stud credentials and not properly evaluating how they fit into the system and program.Proper evaluation seems like a major part of recruiting. If you stop doing that then you effectively stopped recruiting.
The dude won a national title and is the winningest or second winningest coach in Texas history. He transformed Texas athletics from a program that while it had money it wasn't as much as you would have thought, into a nearly unrivaled financial super power.
The problem was that recruiting got to be to easy.
What an absurd rationalization, you gotta be kidding me. :lol: #TexasTuckNation #TTN
Post by: ELL3 on November 08, 2015, 01:14:31 PM
Post by: CNS on November 08, 2015, 01:34:22 PM
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Post by: catastrophe on November 08, 2015, 02:19:49 PM
It wasn't that Brown stopped recruiting, it actually got to be too easy and they were just taking guys by their high school stud credentials and not properly evaluating how they fit into the system and program.Proper evaluation seems like a major part of recruiting. If you stop doing that then you effectively stopped recruiting.
The dude won a national title and is the winningest or second winningest coach in Texas history. He transformed Texas athletics from a program that while it had money it wasn't as much as you would have thought, into a nearly unrivaled financial super power.
The problem was that recruiting got to be to easy.
What an absurd rationalization, you gotta be kidding me. :lol: #TexasTuckNation #TTN
It's not completely inaccurate, although I feel you have to consider evaluation to be a major part of "recruiting."
UT could have had RG III and Manziel at QB. They just failed to see those guys' potential and would only recruit them for other positions because UT thought they were set at QB.
Post by: MakeItRain on November 08, 2015, 04:42:03 PM
Pinkel will be available soon
LOL. You're out of your mind.
Post by: DQ12 on November 08, 2015, 05:09:19 PM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 08, 2015, 06:36:50 PM
Catastrophe planting it in MIR's stupid face.
Post by: MakeItRain on November 08, 2015, 07:00:21 PM
Note to self: Listen to Texas fans, don't listen to to MIR.
Catastrophe planting it in MIR's stupid face.
Just the other day I was reading you post about how '04 and '05 was totally not LHC Bill Snyder's fault for misevaluating busts after recruiting got easier like Nick Patton, Matt Boss, and Chris Boggas. And I was also reading you talking about how it's a good idea to recruit to a system and evaluate right fits and not nust snatch up every star you can get and K-State has been really good at that, just unlucky with injuries.
Oh wait, none of those things happened you rough ridin' hypocrite. Shut up.Your dumbass month long temper tantrum on here stands in direct contrast with your view on how Mack Brown's coaching career ended.
Post by: Fldermaus on November 08, 2015, 07:56:28 PM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 08, 2015, 08:18:45 PM
Note to self: Listen to Texas fans, don't listen to to MIR.
Catastrophe planting it in MIR's stupid face.
Just the other day I was reading you post about how '04 and '05 was totally not LHC LHC LHC LHC LHC Bill Snyder's fault for misevaluating busts after recruiting got easier like Nick Patton, Matt Boss, and Chris Boggas. And I was also reading you talking about how it's a good idea to recruit to a system and evaluate right fits and not nust snatch up every star you can get and K-State has been really good at that, just unlucky with injuries.
Oh wait, none of those things happened you rough ridin' hypocrite. Shut up.Your dumbass month long temper tantrum on here stands in direct contrast with your view on how Mack Brown's coaching career ended.
You're hilarious.
Kstate having a four or five star problem has never happened. Brown literally had a four or five star problem.
Post by: DOD Take 2 on November 08, 2015, 10:16:13 PM
Note to self: Listen to Texas fans, don't listen to to MIR.
Catastrophe planting it in MIR's stupid face.
Just the other day I was reading you post about how '04 and '05 was totally not LHC LHC LHC LHC LHC Bill Snyder's fault for misevaluating busts after recruiting got easier like Nick Patton, Matt Boss, and Chris Boggas. And I was also reading you talking about how it's a good idea to recruit to a system and evaluate right fits and not nust snatch up every star you can get and K-State has been really good at that, just unlucky with injuries.
Oh wait, none of those things happened you rough ridin' hypocrite. Shut up.Your dumbass month long temper tantrum on here stands in direct contrast with your view on how Mack Brown's coaching career ended.
You're hilarious.
Kstate having a four or five star problem has never happened. Brown literally had a four or five star problem.
Yeah, it's a wonder Alabama ever wins more than 9 games with all these 5 star guys to pick from. It's really too easy, I'm sure they'll start to decline.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 08, 2015, 11:22:31 PM
Note to self: Listen to Texas fans, don't listen to to MIR.
Catastrophe planting it in MIR's stupid face.
Just the other day I was reading you post about how '04 and '05 was totally not LHC LHC LHC LHC LHC LHC LHC LHC LHC Bill Snyder's fault for misevaluating busts after recruiting got easier like Nick Patton, Matt Boss, and Chris Boggas. And I was also reading you talking about how it's a good idea to recruit to a system and evaluate right fits and not nust snatch up every star you can get and K-State has been really good at that, just unlucky with injuries.
Oh wait, none of those things happened you rough ridin' hypocrite. Shut up.Your dumbass month long temper tantrum on here stands in direct contrast with your view on how Mack Brown's coaching career ended.
You're hilarious.
Kstate having a four or five star problem has never happened. Brown literally had a four or five star problem.
Yeah, it's a wonder Alabama ever wins more than 9 games with all these 5 star guys to pick from. It's really too easy, I'm sure they'll start to decline.
That pretty much has nothing to do with nothing, but thanks for helping me remember that Mack was a hurt starting QB away from a second national title.
Post by: That_Guy on November 10, 2015, 11:52:24 AM
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Post by: pissclams on November 10, 2015, 12:45:51 PM
Can you imagine having the D-Coordinator of the top team in the country on or sidelines?
would it be the same or better than having the associate head coach/special teams coordinator from ChiPPER's 51st ranked team on our sidelines?
Post by: Cire on November 10, 2015, 01:33:23 PM
Team Memphis Guy
Post by: Panjandrum on November 10, 2015, 01:40:46 PM
Guys, I just really want Venables.
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Post by: tdaver on November 10, 2015, 03:59:27 PM
Our old friend Ubbs was spot on nearly four years ago. Let's get it done this time.
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Post by: That_Guy on November 10, 2015, 04:39:04 PM
Guys, we're going to have the same coach and coordinators next year. And at this time next year we will still be dreaming of our next coach.
I believe this to be true depending on a bowl game or not.
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Post by: catastrophe on November 10, 2015, 06:18:50 PM
Let's start getting serious about this.
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Post by: MakeItRain on November 10, 2015, 06:19:05 PM
2. Brent Venables
3. Tom Herman
4. PJ Fleck
Post by: Panjandrum on November 10, 2015, 06:36:41 PM
1. Justin Fuente
2. Brent Venables
3. Tom Herman
4. PJ Fleck
Why Fuente over Herman? Just curious.
Post by: pissclams on November 10, 2015, 06:40:26 PM
1. Justin Fuentedoes fuente know how to win in manhattan? do you? does anyone? me thinks not.
2. Brent Venables
3. Tom Herman
4. PJ Fleck
advantage, venables
Post by: scottwildcat on November 10, 2015, 06:43:27 PM
1. Justin Fuente
2. Brent Venables
3. Tom Herman
4. PJ Fleck
None of these guys are going to be our coach.
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Post by: Katpappy on November 10, 2015, 06:50:01 PM
1. Justin Fuente
2. Brent Venables
3. Tom Herman
4. PJ Fleck
None of these guys are going to be our coach.QuoteDo you enjoy pissing in our weathies. :frown:
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Post by: MakeItRain on November 10, 2015, 06:55:36 PM
:eye:1. Justin Fuente
2. Brent Venables
3. Tom Herman
4. PJ Fleck
Why Fuente over Herman? Just curious.
:dunno: a feeling
None of these guys are going to be our coach.
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No crap
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Post by: everyone shut up on November 10, 2015, 07:01:37 PM
Post by: PoetWarrior on November 10, 2015, 07:29:00 PM
Post by: scottwildcat on November 10, 2015, 10:50:34 PM
:eye:1. Justin Fuente
2. Brent Venables
3. Tom Herman
4. PJ Fleck
Why Fuente over Herman? Just curious.
:dunno: a feelingNone of these guys are going to be our coach.
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No crap
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MIR I respect you, and your opinions, who do you legitimately think will be our next HC
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Post by: kso_FAN on November 10, 2015, 10:56:16 PM
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Post by: MakeItRain on November 10, 2015, 11:26:22 PM
:eye:1. Justin Fuente
2. Brent Venables
3. Tom Herman
4. PJ Fleck
Why Fuente over Herman? Just curious.
:dunno: a feelingNone of these guys are going to be our coach.
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MIR I respect you, and your opinions, who do you legitimately think will be our next HC
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Awwww thank you :blush: before Pete created that thread tonight I would have said I don't know because I don't think Snyder is retiring this year, now I wonder what Pete knows.
If Snyder leaves this year considering all factors I would think that PJ Fleck and Matt Ruhle could be strong contenders. I am not sure if Gary Patterson will Gene Keady K-State but if he does, he is very tight with Fuente. I wouldn't be surprised to see a name of someone who already has a decent job like Mark Stoops or Sonny Dykes.
Post by: catzacker on November 11, 2015, 05:37:04 AM
Soo....everyone still wants Ron Prince as our coach? got it.
I want Brent Venables.
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Post by: scottwildcat on November 11, 2015, 09:19:01 AM
:eye:1. Justin Fuente
2. Brent Venables
3. Tom Herman
4. PJ Fleck
Why Fuente over Herman? Just curious.
:dunno: a feelingNone of these guys are going to be our coach.
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Awwww thank you :blush: before Pete created that thread tonight I would have said I don't know because I don't think Snyder is retiring this year, now I wonder what Pete knows.
If Snyder leaves this year considering all factors I would think that PJ Fleck and Matt Ruhle could be strong contenders. I am not sure if Gary Patterson will Gene Keady K-State but if he does, he is very tight with Fuente. I wouldn't be surprised to see a name of someone who already has a decent job like Mark Stoops or Sonny Dykes.
I would be all in on Fleck, wouldn't be mad about Rhule, Fuente I'm throwing a parade, Idk what I would think about Mark Stoops or Dykes
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Post by: Yard Dog on November 11, 2015, 10:49:51 AM
1.Venables
2. Ruhle
3. Fuente
But what are the real odds of us pulling any of them?
Post by: EMAWforever on November 11, 2015, 11:17:36 AM
Post by: Panjandrum on November 11, 2015, 11:29:34 AM
I would be very happy with any of:
1.Venables
2. Ruhle
3. Fuente
But what are the real odds of us pulling any of them?
I could be drinking Kool Aid, but I think if we offer BV, he's here in a heartbeat, and I think he's a lifer.
I mean, take the stupid '98 stuff out of the equation, and you couldn't build a more KStateo guy. From Salina, JUCO, played here, coached here, went to OU, won a Natty, went to Clemson, may win a Natty. There's a lot of chatter that he's the odds on favorite to win the Broyles award this year due to replacing a ton of his defense and still having them perform at their current level.
Venables is my dream coach. Has been for a few years now.
Post by: dmartin on November 11, 2015, 11:31:21 AM
I would be very happy with any of:
1.Venables
2. Ruhle
3. Fuente
But what are the real odds of us pulling any of them?
I could be drinking Kool Aid, but I think if we offer BV, he's here in a heartbeat, and I think he's a lifer.
I mean, take the stupid '98 stuff out of the equation, and you couldn't build a more KStateo guy. From Salina, JUCO, played here, coached here, went to OU, won a Natty, went to Clemson, may win a Natty. There's a lot of chatter that he's the odds on favorite to win the Broyles award this year due to replacing a ton of his defense and still having them perform at their current level.
Venables is my dream coach. Has been for a few years now.
I could really get behind this.
Post by: MakeItRain on November 11, 2015, 11:34:15 AM
Venables, I think would be clearly #1 choice. Ruhle at Temple, Fuente, either would be Okay. How about doc Holliday at Marshall(because his name is awesome)
Who's #1 choice? Certainly not John Currie's, of all the names batted around in here he's absolutely the least likely to be hired here.
Post by: michigancat on November 11, 2015, 11:35:14 AM
Post by: ksuchris2000 on November 11, 2015, 11:35:48 AM
Post by: EMAWforever on November 11, 2015, 11:40:38 AM
I like Venables too but isnt he banished for humpingWho cares, let it go!!!!! We need someone with a little bit attitude again.Weiser'sWefald's (Whoever) wife in the cereal aisle at Dillons or some story like that?
Post by: CNS on November 11, 2015, 11:50:06 AM
Post by: ksuchris2000 on November 11, 2015, 11:59:59 AM
WGAF about anyone who could possibly be included in a story about that other than Venzy himself?
Not sure that was English -- but, I dont really give a rat's ass who he purportedly did what to. He seems like a good coach and a good fit.
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Post by: CNS on November 11, 2015, 12:09:04 PM
WGAF about anyone who could possibly be included in a story about that other than Venzy himself?
Not sure that was English -- but, I dont really give a rat's ass who he purportedly did what to. He seems like a good coach and a good fit.
Yeah, I was saying no one cares about anyone that may have been involved in anything like that, other than me caring about Venzy still being a coach that may be a good coach for us.
Post by: Unruly on November 11, 2015, 02:32:55 PM
Post by: slackcat on November 11, 2015, 06:21:49 PM
Anyone not wanting venzy can board the nearest train to dumbassville.
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Post by: MakeItRain on November 11, 2015, 06:37:10 PM
Post by: BostonPancake on November 11, 2015, 06:44:21 PM
Post by: Trim on November 11, 2015, 06:56:01 PM
Then when he hires one w/head coaching experience, it's a pretty easy mad lib to fill in as far as "we set out to find the right fit with the right proven experience to lead this team" and talk about how he accomplished his mission.
But if he hires someone w/o head coaching experience, it's also easy to spin it as "you know, this guy was so impressive and we couldn't find anyone with a single negative word to say, that it was apparent he was our guy no matter what preconceived ideas we had at that outset. And of course you might've heard of a guy named LHC Bill Snyder who turned out to be a pretty good head coach at his first job" and do that crooked smile.
I wouldn't eliminate Venables or others w/o HC experience as possibilities just because Currie's implied that's a prerequisite so far. An AD saying something like that is no more meaningful than a new coach saying he likes "up-tempo" during an introductory presser.
Post by: Missouriscribe on November 11, 2015, 07:16:53 PM
Post by: O-town Kat on November 11, 2015, 07:23:19 PM
He's probably a job away from being a p5 hc, but Tim Horton from Auburn is supposed to be a stud recruiter.Was on Ron's first staff. Was the first to leave (?)
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Post by: joda on November 11, 2015, 08:11:50 PM
He's probably a job away from being a p5 hc, but Tim Horton from Auburn is supposed to be a stud recruiter.
Everyone would have a ton of Canadian friends
Post by: michigancat on November 11, 2015, 08:17:03 PM
Post by: catzacker on November 11, 2015, 08:24:16 PM
Prince's initial staff was incredible
Maybe if Ron had made them run more stairs they would have stayed.
Post by: michigancat on November 11, 2015, 08:28:34 PM
Maybe!Prince's initial staff was incredible
Maybe if Ron had made them run more stairs they would have stayed.
Post by: wetwillie on November 11, 2015, 08:31:26 PM
Post by: scottwildcat on November 11, 2015, 08:45:25 PM
It's time for SD to create one of those coaching line things. I think fleck is in the middle, Herman and Fuente are above the could get line and probably put sean in the burn it down spot.
love these threads so hard.
Post by: MakeItRain on November 11, 2015, 09:12:36 PM
It's time for SD to create one of those coaching line things. I think fleck is in the middle, Herman and Fuente are above the could get line and probably put sean in the burn it down spot.
If recruiting is important to you Fleck has to be a top liner.
http://www.mlive.com/broncos/index.ssf/2014/02/wmu_football_coach_pj_fleck_sa_3.html
Post by: Missouriscribe on November 11, 2015, 09:20:21 PM
Wow. Didn't know that :Wha:He's probably a job away from being a p5 hc, but Tim Horton from Auburn is supposed to be a stud recruiter.Was on Ron's first staff. Was the first to leave (?)
Post by: ksuilander on November 11, 2015, 09:32:48 PM
I would be very happy with any of:
1.Venables
2. Ruhle
3. Fuente
But what are the real odds of us pulling any of them?
Absolutely none :(
Post by: MakeItRain on November 11, 2015, 09:34:46 PM
Post by: scottwildcat on November 11, 2015, 09:50:04 PM
It's time for SD to create one of those coaching line things. I think fleck is in the middle, Herman and Fuente are above the could get line and probably put sean in the burn it down spot.
If recruiting is important to you Fleck has to be a top liner.
http://www.mlive.com/broncos/index.ssf/2014/02/wmu_football_coach_pj_fleck_sa_3.html
Imagine what he could do at a P5 school, and brand new facilities
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Post by: pissclams on November 11, 2015, 10:26:17 PM
I think we all know Venzy and most everyone we have listed is too good for us. But it is fun to dream. I can't wait to see what gatbage Currie rolls out to our curb.what if we started a letter writing campaign? like in shawshank redemption, when andy kept writing the state asking for money for books for the prison library. it worked.
if every goEMAW member wrote one letter per day to venables, maybe he would consider coming to manhattan
Post by: Tobias on November 11, 2015, 10:29:19 PM
Post by: slackcat on November 12, 2015, 06:31:24 AM
He's probably a job away from being a p5 hc, but Tim Horton from Auburn is supposed to be a stud recruiter.Was on Ron's first staff. Was the first to leave (?)
"At KSU, Horton coached future NFL running backs Thomas Clayton and James Johnson."
Post by: pissclams on November 12, 2015, 09:22:39 AM
what if one gpc mod wrote 1000 letters a daywhat if one gpc mod wrote 1 letter per day that made you tear up and sob and it had 10,000 words and he included pictures of his lunch?
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on November 12, 2015, 09:34:34 AM
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Post by: stunted on November 14, 2015, 02:49:47 PM
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Post by: michigancat on November 14, 2015, 05:56:55 PM
http://espn.go.com/blog/sec/post/_/id/110422/georgia-db-rico-mcgraw-injured-after-taking-slap-from-assistant-coachHaha
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Post by: ELL3 on November 14, 2015, 06:17:47 PM
If the Cats lose to KU does the stupid, non-recruiting old rough rider "retire" immediately? At this point he is just a rough ridin' anchor of the sinking ship.
Not if, but when the Cats lose to KU. We will lose 38-28
Post by: catastrophe on November 14, 2015, 06:47:25 PM
If the Cats lose to KU does the stupid, non-recruiting old rough rider "retire" immediately? At this point he is just a rough ridin' anchor of the sinking ship.
Not if, but when the Cats lose to KU. We will lose 38-28
If Cats lose to KU, Snyder is more likely to expire than retire.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 15, 2015, 09:17:09 AM
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Post by: Dugout DickStone on November 15, 2015, 09:28:35 AM
Is it better to suffer through another year of dementiaball than to be the 10th best opening this year?
This is actually the very question I struggle with. I mean, he won't can Dimel or Hayes so we can continue to expect recruiting on the laziest of all levels. I suspect Dimel will adapt or he will never work again. Hayes will go back to Tanners
Post by: wetwillie on November 15, 2015, 09:35:05 AM
Post by: Dugout DickStone on November 15, 2015, 10:21:47 AM
the recruiting is only going to get worse
Afraid so. What if they double down on the "we can sign up kids with no offers and coach them into winners" strategy? We could see the first all Kansas team ever fielded in NCAA history?
Post by: MakeItRain on November 15, 2015, 10:46:43 AM
Is it better to suffer through another year of dementiaball than to be the 10th best opening this year?
This is actually the very question I struggle with. I mean, he won't can Dimel or Hayes so we can continue to expect recruiting on the laziest of all levels. I suspect Dimel will adapt or he will never work again. Hayes will go back to Tanners
Why do you guys think the job is so bad because I don't agree at all. I feel like some of you calling this a bad job are the same ones that would be pissed if a coach used the "I can't recruit here" excuse.
Post by: Dugout DickStone on November 15, 2015, 10:50:06 AM
Post by: Bqqkie Pimp on November 15, 2015, 10:54:02 AM
I think it's a great job. I just think the combination of following Bill and the talent level might be a hindrance if we get into a head to head competition with Va Tech or Miami
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Post by: michigancat on November 15, 2015, 10:54:27 AM
Is it better to suffer through another year of dementiaball than to be the 10th best opening this year?
This is actually the very question I struggle with. I mean, he won't can Dimel or Hayes so we can continue to expect recruiting on the laziest of all levels. I suspect Dimel will adapt or he will never work again. Hayes will go back to Tanners
Why do you guys think the job is so bad because I don't agree at all. I feel like some of you calling this a bad job are the same ones that would be pissed if a coach used the "I can't recruit here" excuse.
If anything, it's Currie that would make it a "bad job".
I think it's a great job. I just think the combination of following Bill and the talent level might be a hindrance if we get into a head to head competition with Va Tech or Miami
Again, it goes back to Currie. I can easily see Currie pulling someone away from either place, depending on the candidate.
Post by: Dugout DickStone on November 15, 2015, 10:56:22 AM
Post by: michigancat on November 15, 2015, 11:05:53 AM
I think Currie focuses on fb enough that he won't be a detriment to picking our coach.Hope so. But he is kind of a weird guy and we've heard about Snyder hating him for various things. I can see why a coach would think he's a weird guy to work with and be scared off.
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Post by: Blackcats on November 15, 2015, 01:07:05 PM
How about Pan?
Has people skillz. Has never lost a game as head coach.
Post by: Panjandrum on November 15, 2015, 01:12:22 PM
I think Currie focuses on fb enough that he won't be a detriment to picking our coach.Hope so. But he is kind of a weird guy and we've heard about Snyder hating him for various things. I can see why a coach would think he's a weird guy to work with and be scared off.
Has Snyder ever gotten along with an AD?
A control freak with a God complex usually doesn't get along with his "boss" well, by and large.
Post by: star seed 7 on November 15, 2015, 01:15:48 PM
Post by: Dugout DickStone on November 15, 2015, 01:41:23 PM
Currie fucjed with Frank because frank mumped with Currie.
Post by: michigancat on November 15, 2015, 03:04:24 PM
I think Currie focuses on fb enough that he won't be a detriment to picking our coach.Hope so. But he is kind of a weird guy and we've heard about Snyder hating him for various things. I can see why a coach would think he's a weird guy to work with and be scared off.
Has Snyder ever gotten along with an AD?
A control freak with a God complex usually doesn't get along with his "boss" well, by and large.
if the rumor that Currie forbade Snyder from hiring his first coordinator choice after Cosh left is true, that's a bit more serious/worrisome than Snyder having a god complex who hates any "boss".
Post by: SkinnyBenny on November 15, 2015, 03:49:59 PM
I think Currie focuses on fb enough that he won't be a detriment to picking our coach.Hope so. But he is kind of a weird guy and we've heard about Snyder hating him for various things. I can see why a coach would think he's a weird guy to work with and be scared off.
Has Snyder ever gotten along with an AD?
A control freak with a God complex usually doesn't get along with his "boss" well, by and large.
if the rumor that Currie forbade Snyder from hiring his first coordinator choice after Cosh left is true, that's a bit more serious/worrisome than Snyder having a god complex who hates any "boss".
refresh me?
Post by: BackPayne on November 15, 2015, 03:56:05 PM
Post by: Panjandrum on November 15, 2015, 03:56:51 PM
I think Currie focuses on fb enough that he won't be a detriment to picking our coach.Hope so. But he is kind of a weird guy and we've heard about Snyder hating him for various things. I can see why a coach would think he's a weird guy to work with and be scared off.
Has Snyder ever gotten along with an AD?
A control freak with a God complex usually doesn't get along with his "boss" well, by and large.
if the rumor that Currie forbade Snyder from hiring his first coordinator choice after Cosh left is true, that's a bit more serious/worrisome than Snyder having a god complex who hates any "boss".
I don't know if that's true or not. Currie probably isn't fun to work with, but I really can't imagine LHC Bill Snyder considering him more than an annoyance.
I'm with Dickstone in the fact that Currie has given Bill about $160+ million reasons to have a good working relationship. Gundy has had a similar relationship with his AD, but he's stayed because it's hard to find a situation where you never have to worry about money or facilities.
The problem is that Bill doesn't give a crap about that. He'd just as well have practice in the middle of a field and have games in CiCo park.
Post by: Blackcats on November 15, 2015, 04:36:15 PM
I think Currie focuses on fb enough that he won't be a detriment to picking our coach.Hope so. But he is kind of a weird guy and we've heard about Snyder hating him for various things. I can see why a coach would think he's a weird guy to work with and be scared off.
Has Snyder ever gotten along with an AD?
A control freak with a God complex usually doesn't get along with his "boss" well, by and large.
if the rumor that Currie forbade Snyder from hiring his first coordinator choice after Cosh left is true, that's a bit more serious/worrisome than Snyder having a god complex who hates any "boss".
I don't know if that's true or not. Currie probably isn't fun to work with, but I really can't imagine LHC LHC Bill Snyder considering him more than an annoyance.
I'm with Dickstone in the fact that Currie has given Bill about $160+ million reasons to have a good working relationship. Gundy has had a similar relationship with his AD, but he's stayed because it's hard to find a situation where you never have to worry about money or facilities.
The problem is that Bill doesn't give a crap about that. He'd just as well have practice in the middle of a field and have games in CiCo park.
It's true. But that donor is dead, we have his money, and everyone kissed and made up last December.
Post by: ednksu on November 16, 2015, 02:56:19 AM
Isn't this the rumor that we had Jim Leavitt on the line, possibly as a HC in waiting/ or co HC/DC, and Currie nixed it?I think Currie focuses on fb enough that he won't be a detriment to picking our coach.Hope so. But he is kind of a weird guy and we've heard about Snyder hating him for various things. I can see why a coach would think he's a weird guy to work with and be scared off.
Has Snyder ever gotten along with an AD?
A control freak with a God complex usually doesn't get along with his "boss" well, by and large.
if the rumor that Currie forbade Snyder from hiring his first coordinator choice after Cosh left is true, that's a bit more serious/worrisome than Snyder having a god complex who hates any "boss".
refresh me?
Post by: ednksu on November 16, 2015, 02:56:53 AM
Nah man, remember in that one video he said he really wanted a training table!I think Currie focuses on fb enough that he won't be a detriment to picking our coach.Hope so. But he is kind of a weird guy and we've heard about Snyder hating him for various things. I can see why a coach would think he's a weird guy to work with and be scared off.
Has Snyder ever gotten along with an AD?
A control freak with a God complex usually doesn't get along with his "boss" well, by and large.
if the rumor that Currie forbade Snyder from hiring his first coordinator choice after Cosh left is true, that's a bit more serious/worrisome than Snyder having a god complex who hates any "boss".
I don't know if that's true or not. Currie probably isn't fun to work with, but I really can't imagine LHC Bill Snyder considering him more than an annoyance.
I'm with Dickstone in the fact that Currie has given Bill about $160+ million reasons to have a good working relationship. Gundy has had a similar relationship with his AD, but he's stayed because it's hard to find a situation where you never have to worry about money or facilities.
The problem is that Bill doesn't give a crap about that. He'd just as well have practice in the middle of a field and have games in CiCo park.
Post by: Katpappy on November 16, 2015, 10:05:17 AM
I don't think OB is a rough ridin' idiot!Nah man, remember in that one video he said he really wanted a training table!I think Currie focuses on fb enough that he won't be a detriment to picking our coach.Hope so. But he is kind of a weird guy and we've heard about Snyder hating him for various things. I can see why a coach would think he's a weird guy to work with and be scared off.
Has Snyder ever gotten along with an AD?
A control freak with a God complex usually doesn't get along with his "boss" well, by and large.
if the rumor that Currie forbade Snyder from hiring his first coordinator choice after Cosh left is true, that's a bit more serious/worrisome than Snyder having a god complex who hates any "boss".
I don't know if that's true or not. Currie probably isn't fun to work with, but I really can't imagine LHC Bill Snyder considering him more than an annoyance.
I'm with Dickstone in the fact that Currie has given Bill about $160+ million reasons to have a good working relationship. Gundy has had a similar relationship with his AD, but he's stayed because it's hard to find a situation where you never have to worry about money or facilities.
The problem is that Bill doesn't give a crap about that. He'd just as well have practice in the middle of a field and have games in CiCo park.
Post by: Panjandrum on November 16, 2015, 10:18:51 AM
I don't think OB is a rough ridin' idiot!Nah man, remember in that one video he said he really wanted a training table!I think Currie focuses on fb enough that he won't be a detriment to picking our coach.Hope so. But he is kind of a weird guy and we've heard about Snyder hating him for various things. I can see why a coach would think he's a weird guy to work with and be scared off.
Has Snyder ever gotten along with an AD?
A control freak with a God complex usually doesn't get along with his "boss" well, by and large.
if the rumor that Currie forbade Snyder from hiring his first coordinator choice after Cosh left is true, that's a bit more serious/worrisome than Snyder having a god complex who hates any "boss".
I don't know if that's true or not. Currie probably isn't fun to work with, but I really can't imagine LHC Bill Snyder considering him more than an annoyance.
I'm with Dickstone in the fact that Currie has given Bill about $160+ million reasons to have a good working relationship. Gundy has had a similar relationship with his AD, but he's stayed because it's hard to find a situation where you never have to worry about money or facilities.
The problem is that Bill doesn't give a crap about that. He'd just as well have practice in the middle of a field and have games in CiCo park.
Paging dax. We need dax to the podium.
Post by: kslim on November 16, 2015, 10:20:21 AM
Post by: MakeItRain on November 16, 2015, 11:19:01 AM
Can we offer 4mil a year to someone? Thats my only concern
Under Currie we've paid our coaches well. I don't anticipate us having a problem paying market value, but I don't see us hiring a $4 million coach, there aren't many of those.
Post by: AppleJack on November 16, 2015, 11:25:57 AM
Thank you
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Post by: Bqqkie Pimp on November 16, 2015, 11:43:17 AM
A big reason for the timing of the new VFC was for "recruiting" and not so much for recruiting kids initially, but to give ol' K-State a chance to hire the type of coach we need to sustain success here.
We have a brand new Maclaren parked on the north end of the stadium that has yet to be driven over 45 mph just begging for a hot, sexy football coach to break every speed record in it.
If you don't think that there are a number of quality coaches that would love to have that palace as a recruiting tool to build a winner, then you are exactly the type of loser mentality that doesn't deserve to have a championship caliber coach here.
Post by: Panjandrum on November 16, 2015, 11:49:18 AM
I have another candidate and this guy may be available next year when we're actually looking for a coach, Arkansas Offensive Coordinator Dan Enos. Enos by no means is a top choice but he does check a few boxes. He was the head coach at Central Michigan for 5 years and he left after a good year to become the OC at Arkansas. He does run a pro style, ball control offense there. They look like what we would want to look like if we had a quarterback and a competent playcaller. For people who insist that Currie will blow the hire you better hope for this guy, people would certainly be pissed if we hired him but we could do so much worse.
I just have to believe that if the options were Dan Enos or Brent Venables, Currie would throw his desire for HC experience aside and go with Venables.
I mean it's a rule until it isn't, you know?
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Post by: Blackcats on November 16, 2015, 02:00:22 PM
I wish my heart didn't yearn for venzy but it does. Every day it does.
Every day that it does, send Brent a note c/o Jennifer Benton (his secretary) at: [email protected]
Dear Coach Venables,
I've been very impressed with your coaching abilities over the last 20 years. Please don't take a head coaching position this year. Unless it is at Kansas State University. We want you home.
Sincerely,
All EMAWs
Or;
Hey Brent,
Stay right where you are coaching a bomb ass defense for the WildTigerCats. We'll call soon enough.
Love,
Wildcat FAMILY
P. S. You COULD call us. Might help super shy ADJC. He is who has been calling and hanging up when your wife picks up.
Post by: Cooper on November 16, 2015, 02:28:48 PM
Post by: Winters on November 16, 2015, 02:31:49 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on November 16, 2015, 03:31:13 PM
I have another candidate and this guy may be available next year when we're actually looking for a coach, Arkansas Offensive Coordinator Dan Enos. Enos by no means is a top choice but he does check a few boxes. He was the head coach at Central Michigan for 5 years and he left after a good year to become the OC at Arkansas. He does run a pro style, ball control offense there. They look like what we would want to look like if we had a quarterback and a competent playcaller. For people who insist that Currie will blow the hire you better hope for this guy, people would certainly be pissed if we hired him but we could do so much worse.
I just have to believe that if the options were Dan Enos or Brent Venables, Currie would throw his desire for HC experience aside and go with Venables.
I mean it's a rule until it isn't, you know?
It isn't my rule though, it's his and it's very apparent that it's important to him. Looking at the superficial things, that you don't need an interview to see, the biggest difference is that one coaches offense one defense, one has been a successful coach and one a long time assistant (who incidentally was fired once), and one went to school here and one hasn't and I am REAL sure that Currie gives no Fs about who went to school here and who didn't.
Post by: Blackcats on November 17, 2015, 10:37:45 AM
Can we offer 4mil a year to someone? Thats my only concern
Yes. We have an account that, on last year's balance sheet had $26M in it and we are adding to it every year. It has been described as our coaching war chest. Being that we didn't know how long Snyder was going to be around, we are pumping money in every year because it could (have) cost $6-7M a year for an ok coach in 5-10 years. As it is, we have the ability to offer $5M for five years today.
Post by: steve dave on November 17, 2015, 10:47:55 AM
Post by: meow meow on November 17, 2015, 10:49:03 AM
Post by: star seed 7 on November 17, 2015, 10:51:02 AM
please tell me it sits in an actual chest and not a lame investment account
Mm clearly doesn't know how endowments work
Post by: meow meow on November 17, 2015, 10:53:32 AM
please tell me it sits in an actual chest and not a lame investment account
Mm clearly doesn't know how endowments work
I didn't ask you, idiot
Post by: wetwillie on November 17, 2015, 11:00:15 AM
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Post by: CHONGS on November 17, 2015, 11:03:23 AM
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Post by: kslim on November 17, 2015, 11:03:30 AM
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Post by: catastrophe on November 17, 2015, 12:18:42 PM
Post by: joda on November 17, 2015, 12:44:52 PM
Speaking of futures. I just watch Black Hat and that terrorist guy really cleaned up on soy bean Futures. We should do something like that.
Where do you think this war chest came from?
Post by: Blackcats on November 17, 2015, 01:29:03 PM
please tell me it sits in an actual chest and not a lame investment account
Keep the checkbook in here...close enough?
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Post by: illBisonYourdele on November 17, 2015, 08:14:27 PM
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New Just passing it along.
Leavitt, Venables & Utah State's -Matt Wells(new name to me)
http://gridironnow.com/kansas-state-said-to-be-doing-due-diligence-on-candidates/
Lol. I know Wells has been mentioned itt.
Post by: catzacker on November 17, 2015, 08:48:44 PM
I have another candidate and this guy may be available next year when we're actually looking for a coach, Arkansas Offensive Coordinator Dan Enos. Enos by no means is a top choice but he does check a few boxes. He was the head coach at Central Michigan for 5 years and he left after a good year to become the OC at Arkansas. He does run a pro style, ball control offense there. They look like what we would want to look like if we had a quarterback and a competent playcaller. For people who insist that Currie will blow the hire you better hope for this guy, people would certainly be pissed if we hired him but we could do so much worse.
I just have to believe that if the options were Dan Enos or Brent Venables, Currie would throw his desire for HC experience aside and go with Venables.
I mean it's a rule until it isn't, you know?
It isn't my rule though, it's his and it's very apparent that it's important to him. Looking at the superficial things, that you don't need an interview to see, the biggest difference is that one coaches offense one defense, one has been a successful coach and one a long time assistant (who incidentally was fired once), and one went to school here and one hasn't and I am REAL sure that Currie gives no Fs about who went to school here and who didn't.
The HC experience criteria just shows what a complete pussy JC is. And not giving a crap about the fact that BV is quasi-beloved because he played/coached at KSU is unbelievably short sighted and unimaginably stupid. But this rough ridin' dipshit valued HC experience so much he hired a guy who was fired for sucking. So I guess he is just thay type of rough ridin' dumbass.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 20, 2015, 06:01:19 AM
Post by: TownieCat on November 20, 2015, 08:45:47 AM
Post by: Katpappy on November 20, 2015, 08:49:42 AM
Post by: Panjandrum on November 20, 2015, 09:52:35 AM
Houston is the new Boise St.
They're doubling down and pushing for an invite in 2017. They can't afford to lose Herman right now.
If they get in, whatever, but they're doing everything they can to keep him.
Post by: Stevesie60 on November 20, 2015, 11:39:49 AM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on November 20, 2015, 11:42:39 AM
How funny would it be if Clemson makes the NC and a week before the game Venables announces that after the game he'll be leaving to be the head coach at Kansas State?
It would be a lot better if we hire him before their CCG and then they lose.
Post by: catastrophe on November 20, 2015, 11:46:58 AM
How funny would it be if Clemson makes the NC and a week before the game Venables announces that after the game he'll be leaving to be the head coach at Kansas State?
It would be a lot better if we hire him before their CCG and then they lose.
But, like, they lose 0-2 so Venzy still looks like a boss.
Post by: wetwillie on November 20, 2015, 12:08:16 PM
Post by: CHONGS on November 20, 2015, 12:52:52 PM
Post by: That_Guy on November 21, 2015, 03:08:31 AM
How funny would it be if Clemson makes the NC and a week before the game Venables announces that after the game he'll be leaving to be the head coach at Kansas State?
It sucks wanting something so much, yet knowing at the same time you can't have it. No matter what.
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Post by: PowercatPat on November 22, 2015, 09:36:45 AM
Post by: Panjandrum on November 22, 2015, 12:57:02 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZIs0T70kd0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZIs0T70kd0)
If we don't hire him, whenever/wherever, I'm just going to lose my crap. He's perfect.
Post by: That_Guy on November 22, 2015, 01:17:44 PM
"I've always loved recruiting. I have a passion about it, um, and it's easy to recruit when you believe in your product."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZIs0T70kd0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZIs0T70kd0)
If we don't hire him, whenever/wherever, I'm just going to lose my crap. He's perfect.
:love:
He doesn't want to be a figure head!
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Post by: wetwillie on November 22, 2015, 01:44:15 PM
"I've always loved recruiting. I have a passion about it, um, and it's easy to recruit when you believe in your product."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZIs0T70kd0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZIs0T70kd0)
If we don't hire him, whenever/wherever, I'm just going to lose my crap. He's perfect.
We have to go get him. We just have to.
Post by: sunny_cat on November 22, 2015, 01:51:26 PM
Post by: scottwildcat on November 22, 2015, 01:51:59 PM
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Post by: Panjandrum on November 22, 2015, 01:57:52 PM
Someone convince me that it's possible to get Venzy :frown:
It's possible. We just have to pay the money and Currie has to get over the HC thing.
Coordinators don't make a lot of P5 jumps these days. Morris went to SMU, Herman went to Houston, McElwain went to Colorado State. The only one that I can think of that happened in the last couple of years was Narduzzi to Pitt.
These days, the path is elite P5 coordinator, mid-major job (MWC, AAC), big P5 job. If we just allow him to bypass the mid-major, low-P5 gig, we can probably have him if we're willing to pay him $2 million a year (just a guess).
Post by: sunny_cat on November 22, 2015, 02:00:25 PM
Yes but about the bad thing that he did when he was at KState? (I've heard multiple stories. Do not know the truth.) I've heard "not allowed back in Manhattan though" :(Someone convince me that it's possible to get Venzy :frown:
It's possible. We just have to pay the money and Currie has to get over the HC thing.
Coordinators don't make a lot of P5 jumps these days. Morris went to SMU, Herman went to Houston, McElwain went to Colorado State. The only one that I can think of that happened in the last couple of years was Narduzzi to Pitt.
These days, the path is elite P5 coordinator, mid-major job (MWC, AAC), big P5 job. If we just allow him to bypass the mid-major, low-P5 gig, we can probably have him if we're willing to pay him $2 million a year (just a guess).
Post by: Panjandrum on November 22, 2015, 02:09:40 PM
Yes but about the bad thing that he did when he was at KState? (I've heard multiple stories. Do not know the truth.) I've heard "not allowed back in Manhattan though" :(Someone convince me that it's possible to get Venzy :frown:
It's possible. We just have to pay the money and Currie has to get over the HC thing.
Coordinators don't make a lot of P5 jumps these days. Morris went to SMU, Herman went to Houston, McElwain went to Colorado State. The only one that I can think of that happened in the last couple of years was Narduzzi to Pitt.
These days, the path is elite P5 coordinator, mid-major job (MWC, AAC), big P5 job. If we just allow him to bypass the mid-major, low-P5 gig, we can probably have him if we're willing to pay him $2 million a year (just a guess).
I've heard that the main person who was pissed is dead, and all is well. :dunno:
Post by: sunny_cat on November 22, 2015, 02:10:14 PM
:thumbs:Yes but about the bad thing that he did when he was at KState? (I've heard multiple stories. Do not know the truth.) I've heard "not allowed back in Manhattan though" :(Someone convince me that it's possible to get Venzy :frown:
It's possible. We just have to pay the money and Currie has to get over the HC thing.
Coordinators don't make a lot of P5 jumps these days. Morris went to SMU, Herman went to Houston, McElwain went to Colorado State. The only one that I can think of that happened in the last couple of years was Narduzzi to Pitt.
These days, the path is elite P5 coordinator, mid-major job (MWC, AAC), big P5 job. If we just allow him to bypass the mid-major, low-P5 gig, we can probably have him if we're willing to pay him $2 million a year (just a guess).
I've heard that the main person who was pissed is dead, and all is well. :dunno:
Post by: That_Guy on November 22, 2015, 03:19:19 PM
:thumbs:Yes but about the bad thing that he did when he was at KState? (I've heard multiple stories. Do not know the truth.) I've heard "not allowed back in Manhattan though" :(Someone convince me that it's possible to get Venzy :frown:
It's possible. We just have to pay the money and Currie has to get over the HC thing.
Coordinators don't make a lot of P5 jumps these days. Morris went to SMU, Herman went to Houston, McElwain went to Colorado State. The only one that I can think of that happened in the last couple of years was Narduzzi to Pitt.
These days, the path is elite P5 coordinator, mid-major job (MWC, AAC), big P5 job. If we just allow him to bypass the mid-major, low-P5 gig, we can probably have him if we're willing to pay him $2 million a year (just a guess).
I've heard that the main person who was pissed is dead, and all is well. :dunno:
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Post by: MakeItRain on November 22, 2015, 03:30:31 PM
Post by: wetwillie on November 22, 2015, 03:48:05 PM
Post by: sunny_cat on November 22, 2015, 03:51:59 PM
You motherfuckers have me all excited for BV as a HCIW next year even though I know better, I'm so pissed at all of you. And panjan stop acting like Currie not hiring someone with HC experience is some small thing he's just going to ignore this time, he's 8 for 8 hiring with HC experience, he doesn't strike me as one to deviate from his plans on the biggest decision of his life.Yeah I agree with this. :( I want to dream though
Post by: wabash909 on November 22, 2015, 04:08:03 PM
Maybe he's had an epiphany.
Post by: chum1 on November 22, 2015, 04:12:53 PM
Post by: EMAWzified on November 22, 2015, 04:23:36 PM
It would also give Currie cover, which should give the bastid some comfort. It's a popular pick with (most) fans as well as a sound selection. The only down side for Currie is that it doesn't let him look like some kind of talent selection genius, which is why he probably won't do it.
Post by: sunny_cat on November 22, 2015, 04:38:44 PM
Post by: Panjandrum on November 22, 2015, 04:48:50 PM
You motherfuckers have me all excited for BV as a HCIW next year even though I know better, I'm so pissed at all of you. And panjan stop acting like Currie not hiring someone with HC experience is some small thing he's just going to ignore this time, he's 8 for 8 hiring with HC experience, he doesn't strike me as one to deviate from his plans on the biggest decision of his life.
I don't think he will be HCIW, but i guess a sizable contingent of donors want BV, and if they get really vocal, will Currie have much of a choice when the time comes, assuming he is available?
I mean he probably lost some of their confidence with oscar, so they may get a little more vocal this time around. He probably had some cover on oscar because a lot of the big money wanted an anti-Frank regarding behavior and demeanor, or so I was told. But I guess BV has the support of a lot of big money, but again, that's what I was told.
Currie still has tens of millions to raise between BSFS and Bramlage. Matt Wells isn't going to get that done. Dan Enos won't get that done. SEC schools won't hire a guy that shoots par on that kind of hire.
And we'd be naive to assume that big money will be okay with someone that's never coached for Bill.
Venables is the best name we could reasonably expect for a school with our history, challenges, and budget. To assume that Currie will follow the same process as non-revenue sports and undershoot the hire to follow a pattern that's produced average results, to me, assumes he has no intention of moving on from here. Because hiring these bland names thrown out won't get him a bigger gig.
Post by: Panjandrum on November 22, 2015, 04:54:45 PM
If we hire Dan Enos or Matt Wells, the media reaction will be, "That's what Kansas State can do. Solid hire." Fan reaction will be disappointed to mad. Donors will be pissed, and Currie would lose whatever support he has left.
If we hire Venables, the universal reaction would be, "Perfect hire. Best guy they could reasonably expect to get." Fans would be excited and people would donate, buy tickets.
I don't think Currie is tone deaf to that. He wanted basketball to be less of a pain to him because what he was hearing from the money was, "Get a guy that swears less." In football, it will be, "Get someone that's coached for Bill and can win games."
Post by: sunny_cat on November 22, 2015, 05:06:07 PM
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on November 22, 2015, 05:21:23 PM
This hire tells us whether we are a "football school" or not.
Post by: Blackcats on November 22, 2015, 05:23:19 PM
And we'd be naive to assume that big money will be okay with someone that's never coached for Bill.
This. There is no way on this earth Currie is hiring Sean. The easy answer is go after the best of Snyder's coaching tree.
Stoops (any) and Patterson are non starters. Levitt and Mangino are not viable for HC duties. Beilma no. Did I miss anyone? So then you have to look at the next level. Venzy is basically making more than any HC outside of the P5s and some in. Hell, he makes more than KUs coach. And for good reason. Which makes it a little easier to bend the head coach rule.
Brent makes Currie's job easy. He satisfies the inexplicably large contingent that want to cryogenically freeze Snyder or pay for a head transplant. He silences the "give Sean a try" crowd because he will have Snyder's blessing. And while many townies know about Brent's transgressions, 95% of donors don't know or care what happened and the unsuspecting cuckold is dead, so he can't beat a drum against him.
You want BV? Reinforce this to every booster you know that can bend Currie's ear.
Post by: sunny_cat on November 22, 2015, 05:38:05 PM
Post by: EMAWzified on November 22, 2015, 05:55:39 PM
Post by: michigancat on November 22, 2015, 05:59:28 PM
Post by: sunny_cat on November 22, 2015, 06:04:40 PM
I think we're convincing ourselves, but I don't think that prick Currie wants us to have good things. Source, the Weber hire.You should read this thread
Post by: Blackcats on November 22, 2015, 06:13:14 PM
I don't think Bill will retire this year and venzy will get a cusa job or something
Bill is not retiring this year. He's going nowhere until he has 200 wins. Brent isn't going to take a pay cut to coach a cusa team.
Look, I don't know if we'll get Venzy. It won't be this year, it will be next...probably. Find the schools that pay $2.5M a year and those are the ones that can afford him. Who so far this year can afford him? A handful of teams? If he stays at Clem, he's ours.
Post by: MakeItRain on November 22, 2015, 06:23:18 PM
Also I really don't get the 200 wins thing, its arbitrary and he's already in the hof. The only coach he's going to pass on the all time wins list is Drinkel.
Post by: Blackcats on November 22, 2015, 06:29:55 PM
Blackcats, if he doesn't get the job I'm going to blame you any you'll need to search for your @ in the real life fighting you thread. You've got me way too hype for this.
Also I really don't get the 200 wins thing, its arbitrary and he's already in the hof. The only coach he's going to pass on the all time wins list is Drinkel.
He set himself a goal and he's going to see it through.
And careful what you wish for. :rolleyes:
Post by: MakeItRain on November 22, 2015, 06:32:43 PM
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Post by: Panjandrum on November 22, 2015, 08:00:38 PM
Blackcats, if he doesn't get the job I'm going to blame you any you'll need to search for your @ in the real life fighting you thread. You've got me way too hype for this.
Also I really don't get the 200 wins thing, its arbitrary and he's already in the hof. The only coach he's going to pass on the all time wins list is Drinkel.
The Venzy Kool aid is like moonshine, and once you drink it, you're just wasted on it forever.
Post by: Katpappy on November 22, 2015, 08:33:27 PM
Post by: pissclams on November 22, 2015, 08:58:02 PM
Post by: OK_Cat on November 22, 2015, 10:20:51 PM
Post by: Trim on November 22, 2015, 10:50:25 PM
Post by: Unruly on November 22, 2015, 10:51:36 PM
Post by: Bqqkie Pimp on November 22, 2015, 10:54:01 PM
I don't think Bill will retire this year and venzy will get a cusa job or something
Bill is not retiring this year. He's going nowhere until he has 200 wins. Brent isn't going to take a pay cut to coach a cusa team.
Look, I don't know if we'll get Venzy. It won't be this year, it will be next...probably. Find the schools that pay $2.5M a year and those are the ones that can afford him. Who so far this year can afford him? A handful of teams? If he stays at Clem, he's ours.
Some of the rumblings I'm hearing include whomever comes in takes the title of "Assistant HC" (or something similar) and basically retools the entire staff with LHCBS acting as a "figurehead HC" only and getting credit on lifetime record for next season wins to get to 200 as he takes a "victory lap" and gets a standing ovation at every stadium we play in.
The unexpected benefit for somebody like a Venzy with no HC experience is that they can start their program build with their year one record not showing on their lifetime win percentage. So, let's say hypothetically we go 7-5 or 6-6 next year while he ramps up recruiting... If he gets hot the next couple of years, his "career record" is maybe 20-4 rather than 26-10 or so and that too has a bit of value.
:buh-bye:
Post by: AppleJack on November 22, 2015, 10:54:51 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on November 22, 2015, 11:03:37 PM
Someone tell me about Willie Taggert. He's gonna be our next coach, isn't he?
I mean Taggart is doing as good of a job at USF as that moron Leavitt some people on here keep pining for.
Post by: Blackcats on November 22, 2015, 11:44:56 PM
What makes Paul Rhoads unattractive to John Currie?
Go stand in the corner of the Internets.
Post by: Trim on November 22, 2015, 11:56:00 PM
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Rhoads is a good man. His players loved him, and the next time you hear a coaching colleague say an unflattering word will be the first.
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“I worked really, really hard trying to find somebody who would tell me that oscar Weber could not get it done, that oscar Weber is not a good coach or that oscar Weber’s got a problem or some other thing,” he said. “To be honest, the further I dug, the better and better it got, because I simply couldn’t find anything.”
:surprised:
Post by: Trim on November 22, 2015, 11:58:24 PM
:surprised:
Post by: CHONGS on November 23, 2015, 12:06:57 AM
Guys, Currie would have to be a rough ridin' idiot to not hire the top DC of the current top Football program in the nation. Not only that, he was a coach on three different Football programs that were ranked #1 in the nation at least once in the past.How about one of the worst defenses in the Pac12 instead? Same thing right?
Post by: Trim on November 23, 2015, 12:09:14 AM
Guys, Currie would have to be a rough ridin' idiot to not hire the top DC of the current top Football program in the nation. Not only that, he was a coach on three different Football programs that were ranked #1 in the nation at least once in the past.How about one of the worst defenses in the Pac12 instead? Same thing right?
DC, big conference. 2 similarities, only 1 difference!
Post by: Bqqkie Pimp on November 23, 2015, 10:34:37 AM
:lol:
Post by: Katpappy on November 23, 2015, 11:31:16 AM
https://www.reddit.com/r/CFB/comments/3tyc40/brent_venables_is_not_a_great_dc_and_would_be_a/All I got out of it was this: "I know that on the surface there may seem to be a lot of reasons to hire him as well, such as having back to back top defenses, reloading after losing the full front 7 and not missing a beat and being the DC of the current #1 team in the country, but please be extremely careful.". :love:
:lol:
Post by: EMAWzified on November 23, 2015, 11:33:18 AM
https://www.reddit.com/r/CFB/comments/3tyc40/brent_venables_is_not_a_great_dc_and_would_be_a/The OP and half the posters are Clemson fans' tongue-in-cheek comments hoping to dissuade interest in BV from other schools' fans.
:lol:
Post by: Skipper44 on November 23, 2015, 11:36:32 AM
Save for a handful of elites, what other school would not an alum and former assistant like BV be a slam dunk for the job? It's so rough ridin' obvious, Currie should have no choice.yep, I think our only hope is after Currie strikes out on the Fuentes and Kirby Smart types his self preservation instinct over comes his ambition forcing him to hire BV.
It would also give Currie cover, which should give the bastid some comfort. It's a popular pick with (most) fans as well as a sound selection. The only down side for Currie is that it doesn't let him look like some kind of talent selection genius, which is why he probably won't do it.
I am still scared shitless it will end a Mike Riley type that is just resetting the shot clock but looks ok to good on paper. Has Todd Graham started wearing a normal headset or is he still going for that aerobics instructor vibe?
Post by: kslim on November 23, 2015, 11:37:19 AM
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Post by: chum1 on November 23, 2015, 11:48:18 AM
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Post by: kslim on November 23, 2015, 11:52:14 AM
What is the difference between les miles and Mack brownone is better than the other
Post by: scottwildcat on November 23, 2015, 11:52:32 AM
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Post by: Skipper44 on November 23, 2015, 11:53:41 AM
What is the difference between les miles and Mack brownMiles is insanely entertaining?
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Post by: kslim on November 23, 2015, 11:56:10 AM
Les Miles is going to South Carolina or Georgia if the fire MRnot so fast my friend. this will start a serious chain reaction, we could be looking at 20 p5 job openings
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Post by: star seed 7 on November 23, 2015, 12:00:45 PM
Post by: kslim on November 23, 2015, 12:01:46 PM
Do not want lesare you haf?
Post by: Skipper44 on November 23, 2015, 12:05:39 PM
Do not want lesdo you hate fun?
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Post by: star seed 7 on November 23, 2015, 12:06:36 PM
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Post by: kslim on November 23, 2015, 12:14:10 PM
No to both of thosewell thats just a really shitty opinion.
Post by: Panjandrum on November 23, 2015, 12:19:56 PM
Les Miles is going to South Carolina or Georgia if the fire MRnot so fast my friend. this will start a serious chain reaction, we could be looking at 20 p5 job openings
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This is going to be the most insane off-season ever.
Post by: scottwildcat on November 23, 2015, 12:20:10 PM
No to both of those
you are an absolute idiot.
Post by: Panjandrum on November 23, 2015, 12:21:58 PM
Post by: Cire on November 23, 2015, 01:41:02 PM
Post by: Trim on November 23, 2015, 01:45:54 PM
Post by: wetwillie on November 23, 2015, 01:46:14 PM
Post by: MadCat on November 23, 2015, 02:18:56 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on November 23, 2015, 05:01:48 PM
The guy after Bill will probably fail...
Really. Why?
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 23, 2015, 05:07:50 PM
Post by: Trim on November 23, 2015, 05:08:36 PM
The guy after Bill will probably fail...
Really. Why?
In part, because there'll be low attendance at the games as a big chunk of KSU fans will mysteriously have had their hands burned (chopped? can't remember) off.
Post by: That_Guy on November 23, 2015, 05:39:13 PM
The guy after Bill will probably fail...
Really. Why?
In part, because there'll be low attendance at the games as a big chunk of KSU fans will mysteriously have had their hands burned (chopped? can't remember) off.
Burned off is correct.
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Post by: bws on November 23, 2015, 09:34:08 PM
Thamel...
http://www.campusrush.com/college-football-coaching-carousel-black-sunday-primer-1472034134.html (http://www.campusrush.com/college-football-coaching-carousel-black-sunday-primer-1472034134.html)
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As for other jobs, the fate of LHC Bill Snyder is in question at Kansas State. Bowl eligibility is still attainable for the Wildcats (4–6, 1–6 Big 12) after a miraculous 38–35 comeback victory over Iowa State on Saturday. But Snyder is 76, an age in which most people consider retirement, not working 16 hours days to compete with the likes of Oklahoma and Baylor.
Feldman...
http://www.foxsports.com/college-football/story/lsu-tigers-miles-texas-longhorns-strong-houston-herman-florida-st-fisher-coaching-carousel-112215 (http://www.foxsports.com/college-football/story/lsu-tigers-miles-texas-longhorns-strong-houston-herman-florida-st-fisher-coaching-carousel-112215)
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10. LHC Bill Snyder, Kansas State: Is this the year The Wizard walks away for good? We’re hearing there’s a good chance of that. His team is just 1-6 in the Big 12. We’re told he’d love for his son Sean, a K-State assistant, to get the job, but his AD probably won’t go for that. Dana Dimel, the ’Cats OC who did a good job as the Wyoming head coach a decade ago, also is in play. Then again, last time Snyder walked away, he didn’t have much of a say in picking his successor and Ron Prince was a disaster there.
Post by: kso_FAN on November 23, 2015, 09:39:59 PM
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Post by: pissclams on November 23, 2015, 09:42:24 PM
Post by: chum1 on November 23, 2015, 09:44:26 PM
Post by: kso_FAN on November 23, 2015, 09:46:44 PM
It's Venzy time!
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Post by: That_Guy on November 23, 2015, 09:48:27 PM
It's Venzy time!
:love:
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Post by: MakeItRain on November 23, 2015, 10:03:49 PM
the only teams that rely heavily on special teams are ones that have to
That's not true and you know it
Post by: That_Guy on November 23, 2015, 10:07:16 PM
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Post by: MakeItRain on November 23, 2015, 10:07:58 PM
nobody 1-10 is worth a crap on that list. the only teams that rely heavily on special teams are ones that have to
I'm not certain why I cut the first sentence of that post because it was dumb too.
Post by: pissclams on November 23, 2015, 10:52:00 PM
there's a reason why the football world refers to them as special teams
Post by: Panjandrum on November 23, 2015, 10:56:20 PM
Feldman has covered enough of our games on the sideline, and he's connected enough, that he may know something. There are rumors outside of the KSU community that Bill is retiring, so, it's not a stretch that he's heard it.
Thamel is full of crap. Don't read him.
Post by: CHONGS on November 23, 2015, 11:48:09 PM
Where is Colorado on that list? :excited:It's Venzy time!
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Post by: kso_FAN on November 24, 2015, 08:56:47 AM
It's Venzy time!
Alright, we'll go back to this one...
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Post by: HerrSonntag on November 24, 2015, 09:00:37 AM
Thats some great work.It's Venzy time!
Alright, we'll go back to this one...
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:thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Post by: MadCat on November 24, 2015, 10:34:07 AM
The guy after Bill will probably fail...
Really. Why?
This was based on past rhetoric: "No one wants to be the guy after a legend." I don't really have any facts to back it up. I wasn't even basing it off of Ron Prince's performance.
Post by: troubledscribe on November 27, 2015, 04:20:42 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on November 27, 2015, 05:46:06 PM
So PJ Fleck just beat toledo and landed a 4 star rb formerly committed to Michigan. If he goes to ISU I will lose it.
I'm so afraid of this, there's no buzz around here about him though.
Post by: BackPayne on November 27, 2015, 05:48:46 PM
So PJ Fleck just beat toledo and landed a 4 star rb formerly committed to Michigan. If he goes to ISU I will lose it.
I'm so afraid of this, there's no buzz around here about him though.
Any names you are hearing being thrown around?
Post by: MakeItRain on November 27, 2015, 06:03:06 PM
Dino Babers
Kendall Briles
Scott Frost
Lincoln Riley
The scary thing about PJ Fleck and Iowa State is that he likely doesn't think he's too good to work there. His recruiting classes at western are already better than ISU's, you'd think he'd be scary there.
Post by: BackPayne on November 27, 2015, 06:18:45 PM
Ken Nie..... Navy coach
Dino Babers
Kendall Briles
Scott Frost
Lincoln Riley
The scary thing about PJ Fleck and Iowa State is that he likely doesn't think he's too good to work there. His recruiting classes at western are already better than ISU's, you'd think he'd be scary there.
No Sean Snyder? :)
Post by: kslim on November 27, 2015, 06:56:24 PM
Post by: scottwildcat on November 27, 2015, 08:07:36 PM
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Post by: MakeItRain on November 27, 2015, 09:00:43 PM
Better chance we hire Nick Saban than Kendall Briles
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You gotta read better, that isn't our list bub
Post by: ELL3 on November 27, 2015, 09:41:58 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on November 27, 2015, 10:00:50 PM
Any chance Bill "with health issues" retires around Spring Practice, then Sean is interim?
Very possible although in that case I wonder if Currie would name Dana the interim.
Post by: LynchMob42 on December 01, 2015, 08:25:36 AM
What is the difference between les miles and Mack brownMiles is insanely entertaining?
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Giving a dirty chickenwing...... I like it!
Post by: slobber on December 02, 2015, 07:12:48 AM
HA!What is the difference between les miles and Mack brownMiles is insanely entertaining?
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Giving a dirty chickenwing...... I like it!
Gonna win 'em all!
Post by: That_Guy on December 07, 2015, 08:09:54 PM
Leavitt know the future of the 'Cats is his.
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Post by: TownieCat on December 07, 2015, 08:15:37 PM
Post by: CNS on December 07, 2015, 08:16:22 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on December 07, 2015, 08:21:05 PM
Osborne looks terrible.
walking dead extra
Post by: MakeItRain on December 08, 2015, 01:43:53 AM
sorry about this before I type it because he's very non-EMAW but...
Greg Schiano
http://www.stationcaster.com/player_skinned.php?s=26&c=373&f=5090813 31:55-38:25
he'll be around in the Spring if Bill retires then, he'll be around next season too
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Leavitt know the future of the 'Cats is his.
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Is that Carl Ice standing next to him? :curse: :Flamethrower:
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Leavitt know the future of the 'Cats is his.
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Is that Carl Ice standing next to him? :curse: :Flamethrower:
Looks like it could be. Probably why Venables isn't there.
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Leavitt know the future of the 'Cats is his.
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Is that Carl Ice standing next to him? :curse: :Flamethrower:
Looks like it could be. Probably why Venables isn't there.
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I have no idea who the guy between Osborne and Leavitt is, but it is 100% definitely not Carl Ice.
L to R: Dimel, Smith, Bennett, Bert, HOFHC Snyder, Leavitt, ????, Zombie Osborne, HCIW Sean Snyder
Post by: michigancat on December 08, 2015, 08:52:29 AM
Soren Petro has talked me into moving PJ Fleck off of the top of my list for...Yeah Schiano might be available for a while.
sorry about this before I type it because he's very non-EMAW but...
Greg Schiano
http://www.stationcaster.com/player_skinned.php?s=26&c=373&f=5090813 31:55-38:25
he'll be around in the Spring if Bill retires then, he'll be around next season too
Post by: Katpappy on December 08, 2015, 09:23:50 AM
Where's Barry or concert buddy Bob.(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.tapatalk-cdn.com%2F15%2F12%2F07%2F56f5a177014b3bf732e9d8799f797111.jpg&hash=bddcc26f6ad309d00c20207fc01d3b6103f9140b)
Leavitt know the future of the 'Cats is his.
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Is that Carl Ice standing next to him? :curse: :Flamethrower:
Looks like it could be. Probably why Venables isn't there.
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I have no idea who the guy between Osborne and Leavitt is, but it is 100% definitely not Carl Ice.
L to R: Dimel, Smith, Bennett, Bert, HOFHC Snyder, Leavitt, ????, Zombie Osborne, HCIW Sean Snyder
Post by: Katpappy on December 08, 2015, 09:24:49 AM
That's only because he is an bad person.Soren Petro has talked me into moving PJ Fleck off of the top of my list for...Yeah Schiano might be available for a while.
sorry about this before I type it because he's very non-EMAW but...
Greg Schiano
http://www.stationcaster.com/player_skinned.php?s=26&c=373&f=5090813 31:55-38:25
he'll be around in the Spring if Bill retires then, he'll be around next season too
Post by: troubledscribe on December 08, 2015, 10:10:01 AM
Post by: MakeItRain on December 08, 2015, 10:28:22 AM
A Rutgers throwaway? No thanks.
Rutgers didn't throw him away, dummy.
Post by: Katpappy on December 08, 2015, 10:30:47 AM
Tampa Bay did.A Rutgers throwaway? No thanks.
Rutgers didn't throw him away, dummy.
Post by: MakeItRain on December 08, 2015, 10:33:50 AM
Tampa Bay did.A Rutgers throwaway? No thanks.
Rutgers didn't throw him away, dummy.
Wait. He doesn't coach at Tampa Bay anymore? :Wha:
Post by: Katpappy on December 08, 2015, 10:46:54 AM
:lol:Tampa Bay did.A Rutgers throwaway? No thanks.
Rutgers didn't throw him away, dummy.
Wait. He doesn't coach at Tampa Bay anymore? :Wha:
Post by: slobber on December 08, 2015, 08:07:47 PM
Gonna win 'em all!
Post by: DHCM on December 08, 2015, 08:13:10 PM
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Leavitt know the future of the 'Cats is his.
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Is that Carl Ice standing next to him? :curse: :Flamethrower:
Looks like it could be. Probably why Venables isn't there.
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I have no idea who the guy between Osborne and Leavitt is, but it is 100% definitely not Carl Ice.
L to R: Dimel, Smith, Bennett, Bert, HOFHC Snyder, Leavitt, ????, Zombie Osborne, HCIW Sean Snyder
Post by: MakeItRain on December 08, 2015, 09:07:33 PM
Post by: TheHamburglar on December 08, 2015, 09:56:33 PM
Post by: Panjandrum on December 08, 2015, 09:57:24 PM
https://twitter.com/kstatesports/status/674433475387199489
Post by: MakeItRain on December 08, 2015, 09:58:24 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on December 08, 2015, 10:00:41 PM
Post by: Panjandrum on December 08, 2015, 10:08:33 PM
:shakesfist:
Post by: DHCM on December 08, 2015, 10:09:28 PM
That's Carl Jackson. He was the RB coach at Iowa the entire time Bill was there. He was also the RB coach at North Texas with Bill & Hayden prior to all of them moving to Iowa.damn, right you are. Could've sworn that was Gush.
My bad, I'll hit the bricks now.
Post by: MakeItRain on December 08, 2015, 10:10:17 PM
Hey, you like who you like, and I'll like who I like.
:shakesfist:
I like Venzy too, Defensive Debbie.
Post by: Tobias on December 08, 2015, 10:17:23 PM
That's Carl Jackson. He was the RB coach at Iowa the entire time Bill was there. He was also the RB coach at North Texas with Bill & Hayden prior to all of them moving to Iowa.
:thumbs:
Post by: CatMission on December 08, 2015, 10:22:18 PM
Guess who is in New York?
https://twitter.com/kstatesports/status/674433475387199489
All is forgiven.
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I like the use of quotations
Post by: scottwildcat on December 09, 2015, 08:36:39 AM
Let's not forget Currie and the Animal are there too...and we know Currie's affinity to making coaching decisions in big city hotels. :dunno:
Stop doing this to me Blackcats
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Post by: Dr Rick Daris on December 09, 2015, 08:44:09 AM
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Post by: Panjandrum on December 09, 2015, 10:04:45 AM
Let's not forget Currie and the Animal are there too...and we know Currie's affinity to making coaching decisions in big city hotels. :dunno:
Stop doing this to me Blackcats
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How do you think I feel? We Facebook message on the reg.
I've already bought land in Venzyworld and have hired an architect to build my dream home.
Post by: Panjandrum on December 09, 2015, 10:05:23 AM
it is kind of odd that he should be one of the hottest head coaching candidates and yet his name hasn't been brought up with any of the recent openings. :Chirp:
:whistle1:
Post by: kslim on December 09, 2015, 10:09:44 AM
Post by: dmartin on December 09, 2015, 10:22:21 AM
Guess who is in New York?
https://twitter.com/kstatesports/status/674433475387199489
Just slip the keys to the program into his pocket.
Post by: TheHamburglar on December 09, 2015, 10:31:35 AM
Post by: kslim on December 09, 2015, 12:57:56 PM
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Post by: OK_Cat on December 16, 2015, 06:11:12 PM
Is there a slightly clearer path for Venables now?
:lol:
Post by: Katpappy on December 18, 2015, 12:55:19 AM
Son of a bitches, VB got his hand around ole Bill. Must be special, cause Bill don't just let anyone touch him more or less let someone put an arm around him. :surprised:Guess who is in New York?
https://twitter.com/kstatesports/status/674433475387199489
Just slip the keys to the program into his pocket.
This has got to be foretelling!!! :ksu:
Post by: pvegs on December 22, 2015, 11:02:18 PM
Post by: wetwillie on December 22, 2015, 11:08:38 PM
Post by: pissclams on December 22, 2015, 11:11:40 PM
Post by: ELL3 on December 23, 2015, 02:24:40 AM
fwiw, gpc had 5 pgs of smoke today abt bv coming to replaces hayes and serve as hciw next season
only logical thought is there were a lot of pretty good jobs open this year and can not remember Venables linked to one of them (South Carolina for example or Mizzou)
I think we will hear something on next season Jan 3
Post by: idontgiveAdam_713 on December 23, 2015, 04:51:08 AM
He seemed to have a run at KU, can recruit, loves Kansas as much as a chicken parm?
Post by: Pete on December 23, 2015, 08:35:58 AM
Post by: wetwillie on December 23, 2015, 08:39:11 AM
Warm up the rumor machines
:excited:
Post by: pvegs on December 23, 2015, 08:42:25 AM
Warm up the rumor machines
O. baby.
Post by: slobber on December 23, 2015, 08:50:04 AM
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on December 23, 2015, 09:02:01 AM
fwiw, gpc had 5 pgs of smoke today abt bv coming to replaces hayes and serve as hciw next season
there's definitely some venzy smoke
Post by: catastrophe on December 23, 2015, 09:12:58 AM
Post by: WillieWatanabe on December 23, 2015, 09:18:20 AM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 23, 2015, 09:20:27 AM
Post by: kslim on December 23, 2015, 09:27:44 AM
GPC finally out scooped us.not even close
Post by: troubledscribe on December 23, 2015, 09:31:01 AM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 23, 2015, 09:31:39 AM
It's not a scoop, if you hold on to it.GPC finally out scooped us.not even close
Post by: kslim on December 23, 2015, 09:32:31 AM
read the threadIt's not a scoop, if you hold on to it.GPC finally out scooped us.not even close
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 23, 2015, 09:33:25 AM
Post by: kslim on December 23, 2015, 09:38:24 AM
Everyone has been rumoring this, since 1993.no they havent
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 23, 2015, 09:48:17 AM
:dubious: 'Slim, it's OK to get out scooped, when it's a 10:1 ratio of scooping.Everyone has been rumoring this, since 1993.no they havent
Post by: kslim on December 23, 2015, 09:50:04 AM
wait who said it was me with the scoop. You want a scoop? Hayes will most likely be coaching his last game at the liberty bowl. Stop half assing it wacky:dubious: 'Slim, it's OK to get out scooped, when it's a 10:1 ratio of scooping.Everyone has been rumoring this, since 1993.no they havent
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 23, 2015, 09:51:24 AM
Post by: CNS on December 23, 2015, 09:54:15 AM
Post by: troubledscribe on December 23, 2015, 09:58:14 AM
wait who said it was me with the scoop. You want a scoop? Hayes will most likely be coaching his last game at the liberty bowl. Stop half assing it wacky:dubious: 'Slim, it's OK to get out scooped, when it's a 10:1 ratio of scooping.Everyone has been rumoring this, since 1993.no they havent
Does this mean our defensive backs can play press coverage and turn an recognize the ball?
Post by: Emo EMAW on December 23, 2015, 09:59:11 AM
Post by: Panjandrum on December 23, 2015, 10:13:20 AM
fwiw, gpc had 5 pgs of smoke today abt bv coming to replaces hayes and serve as hciw next seasonthere's definitely some venzy smoke
I want to hug you and Pete.
Ah, hell, I want to hug everybody.
Post by: Trim on December 23, 2015, 10:15:57 AM
Post by: CNS on December 23, 2015, 10:20:51 AM
Post by: HELLHAMMER on December 23, 2015, 10:25:09 AM
Post by: CNS on December 23, 2015, 10:27:57 AM
Post by: catastrophe on December 23, 2015, 10:29:21 AM
Color me sceptical. I'm not buying any of this horse crap talk until I get a John Currie verification email.
A Steve Dave thread would be good enough for me.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 23, 2015, 10:29:36 AM
Post by: catastrophe on December 23, 2015, 10:29:51 AM
When is Venzy's bowl game? I mean, we should know with in a day of that, I would think. Even if it is before our bowl.
Then we want OU to win on NYE.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 23, 2015, 10:32:28 AM
Post by: Corky on December 23, 2015, 10:32:55 AM
When is Venzy's bowl game? I mean, we should know with in a day of that, I would think. Even if it is before our bowl.
If you look at how Beilema (sp?) handled it when he left K-state, we may be waiting until right after signing day. The only reason I bring this up is that if Snyder is involved he will probably want BV to do the honorable thing and not leave Clemson in a bind like Snyder has faced before. Which would suck because I want X.Kelly to come with him.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 23, 2015, 10:33:30 AM
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Post by: kslim on December 23, 2015, 10:38:40 AM
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Post by: Gooch on December 23, 2015, 10:39:34 AM
Post by: kslim on December 23, 2015, 10:40:32 AM
You guys are going to be so disappointed when its Leavittnot even kidding. Leavitt has been approached to come with venzy if it happens. And he would
Post by: i poo crabs on December 23, 2015, 10:41:54 AM
GPC finally out scooped us.
BlackCats posted these rumblings on BringontheCats almost a month ago. Made me whip it out with excitement.
fyi: still out
Post by: Panjandrum on December 23, 2015, 10:42:27 AM
You guys are going to be so disappointed when its Leavittnot even kidding. Leavitt has been approached to come with venzy if it happens. And he would
I've heard the same.
Post by: scottwildcat on December 23, 2015, 10:43:07 AM
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Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 23, 2015, 10:43:30 AM
Post by: HELLHAMMER on December 23, 2015, 10:43:47 AM
You guys are going to be so disappointed when its Leavittnot even kidding. Leavitt has been approached to come with venzy if it happens. And he would
Sounds like someone on dope drugs lied to you.
Post by: kslim on December 23, 2015, 10:46:24 AM
well i did hear it from my dealerYou guys are going to be so disappointed when its Leavittnot even kidding. Leavitt has been approached to come with venzy if it happens. And he would
Sounds like someone on dope drugs lied to you.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 23, 2015, 10:47:42 AM
Post by: catastrophe on December 23, 2015, 11:04:13 AM
Not if you like Venzy and want what's best for him.
What is best for Venzy is being the next Cats HC ASAP.
Post by: michigancat on December 23, 2015, 11:08:21 AM
Post by: deputy dawg on December 23, 2015, 11:09:03 AM
You guys are going to be so disappointed when its Leavitt
Not me, especially considering the next most probable alternatives (Sean, oscar equivalent from fired FB coaches ranks, etc.)
Post by: wetwillie on December 23, 2015, 11:09:25 AM
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on December 23, 2015, 11:12:10 AM
Post by: sunny_cat on December 23, 2015, 11:15:02 AM
Post by: Blackcats on December 23, 2015, 11:17:21 AM
fwiw, gpc had 5 pgs of smoke today abt bv coming to replaces hayes and serve as hciw next seasonthere's definitely some venzy smoke
That's cute.
National Letter of Intent signing day, February 3, 2016, 4:00pm.
A press conference announcing 2016 will be his last year, Venables hired on staff as DC and HCIW for the 2016.
Season tickets go on sale immediately.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 23, 2015, 11:19:41 AM
Post by: kslim on December 23, 2015, 11:19:57 AM
Post by: CNS on December 23, 2015, 11:20:42 AM
Post by: Panjandrum on December 23, 2015, 11:21:59 AM
It's still just the same stuff people have been talking about since thanksgiving though. I heard this from this and this. I personally won't believe until bsac or someone similar confirms and I don't see that happening anytime soon.
Maybe two significant reasons we aren't hearing a lot of strong info:
1) There's a strong, "It's Patterson!" fear that will pervade over this donor base for a long time. From what I "hear", everyone is tight lipped.
2) Because of #1, Venables isn't going to say or allow anything that would hurt Clemson's chances in the playoff.
So, we won't hear anything substantial for at least 2-3 weeks, I'm sure.
Post by: Blackcats on December 23, 2015, 11:32:41 AM
HCIW is so stupid
It works in this case.
Snyder deserves a HoF victory lap.
Assistant coaches can have more recruiting contact than a head coach so it gives VB more time to recruit.
This gives VB basically an extra recruiting class, year on the trail as the assistant then his first year as HC is his second class.
Post by: Gooch on December 23, 2015, 11:34:13 AM
Post by: michigancat on December 23, 2015, 11:37:35 AM
Giving BV the HC job and having him run the program as he sees fit is actually what makes sense. (This assumes you think BV will make a good head coach.)HCIW is so stupid
It works in this case.
Snyder deserves a HoF victory lap.
Assistant coaches can have more recruiting contact than a head coach so it gives VB more time to recruit.
This gives VB basically an extra recruiting class, year on the trail as the assistant then his first year as HC is his second class.
Post by: Panjandrum on December 23, 2015, 12:05:59 PM
Giving BV the HC job and having him run the program as he sees fit is actually what makes sense. (This assumes you think BV will make a good head coach.)HCIW is so stupid
It works in this case.
Snyder deserves a HoF victory lap.
Assistant coaches can have more recruiting contact than a head coach so it gives VB more time to recruit.
This gives VB basically an extra recruiting class, year on the trail as the assistant then his first year as HC is his second class.
I'm all for what gets Venables here, so if it's one or the other, I'm for whichever one works.
However, in this situation, Bill isn't really running a whole lot, and history has shown recently that a soft transition generally nets better results than a hard transition, at least in the short term.
Venables would have a year to run the program as he sees fit, with Bill's input, and he'd be able to give a number of the assistants a year long interview to see if he wants to keep working with them. Several of them are going to walk when Bill does, based on age alone, so it's safe to say that BV will have the opportunity to fill in assistants as he sees fit, including DC. It also means he doesn't have to scramble to put together a staff and recruit in an 8-9 week period. While there would be recruiting restrictions, he could recruit once they get to campus, and that would be huge for us. It gives him a year to assemble a class and re-introduce himself to the local and regional high school and JUCO coaches.
A lot of negative stuff happens in the chaos during that transition. Your recruits start looking around, you make snap judgments on assistants so you can have a staff going into Spring football, etc. Existing players have to adjust to a new S&C program during winter workouts, then they have a new process during Spring football with new coaches, they generally learn new schemes vs. what they've spent months or years implementing and getting comfortable with, etc. There are a lot of benefits to getting there a year early if that is something you're interested in.
If Venables didn't have a connection to a lot of these coaches, I could easily see him saying no. But he does have a connection with many of them, and that may increase his comfort level in a HCIW situation.
Post by: CNS on December 23, 2015, 12:09:13 PM
Post by: 'taterblast on December 23, 2015, 12:18:10 PM
Post by: Panjandrum on December 23, 2015, 12:21:39 PM
this is taking me back to 2005 with all Venzy rumor feels
Yeah, but Jack is dead now, and Venables has proven himself away from Stoops.
Post by: HELLHAMMER on December 23, 2015, 12:23:51 PM
Post by: wetwillie on December 23, 2015, 12:24:40 PM
My hope is this hot piece of ass
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Post by: i poo crabs on December 23, 2015, 12:27:15 PM
Giving BV the HC job and having him run the program as he sees fit is actually what makes sense. (This assumes you think BV will make a good head coach.)HCIW is so stupid
It works in this case.
Snyder deserves a HoF victory lap.
Assistant coaches can have more recruiting contact than a head coach so it gives VB more time to recruit.
This gives VB basically an extra recruiting class, year on the trail as the assistant then his first year as HC is his second class.
I'm all for what gets Venables here, so if it's one or the other, I'm for whichever one works.
However, in this situation, Bill isn't really running a whole lot, and history has shown recently that a soft transition generally nets better results than a hard transition, at least in the short term.
Venables would have a year to run the program as he sees fit, with Bill's input, and he'd be able to give a number of the assistants a year long interview to see if he wants to keep working with them. Several of them are going to walk when Bill does, based on age alone, so it's safe to say that BV will have the opportunity to fill in assistants as he sees fit, including DC. It also means he doesn't have to scramble to put together a staff and recruit in an 8-9 week period. While there would be recruiting restrictions, he could recruit once they get to campus, and that would be huge for us. It gives him a year to assemble a class and re-introduce himself to the local and regional high school and JUCO coaches.
A lot of negative stuff happens in the chaos during that transition. Your recruits start looking around, you make snap judgments on assistants so you can have a staff going into Spring football, etc. Existing players have to adjust to a new S&C program during winter workouts, then they have a new process during Spring football with new coaches, they generally learn new schemes vs. what they've spent months or years implementing and getting comfortable with, etc. There are a lot of benefits to getting there a year early if that is something you're interested in.
If Venables didn't have a connection to a lot of these coaches, I could easily see him saying no. But he does have a connection with many of them, and that may increase his comfort level in a HCIW situation.
Exactly! Thanks for articulating this! :)
Post by: bws on December 23, 2015, 12:30:19 PM
HCIW is so stupid
It works in this case.
Snyder deserves a HoF victory lap.
Assistant coaches can have more recruiting contact than a head coach so it gives VB more time to recruit.
This gives VB basically an extra recruiting class, year on the trail as the assistant then his first year as HC is his second class.
Can we throw in the 200 wins thing too to bolster this argument and give us another check in the pros column? Thanks.
Post by: chum1 on December 23, 2015, 12:33:26 PM
Post by: 'taterblast on December 23, 2015, 12:35:38 PM
-couple weeks before WVU game, said something like "i'll evaluate my situation when the season is over"
-at the hall of fame induction, said something like "i don't have any reason to retire"
so maybe in between those two questions is when this plan was put in place, and gave him more reason to be his usual cocky self when asked that type of question.
Post by: michigancat on December 23, 2015, 12:41:26 PM
Giving BV the HC job and having him run the program as he sees fit is actually what makes sense. (This assumes you think BV will make a good head coach.)HCIW is so stupid
It works in this case.
Snyder deserves a HoF victory lap.
Assistant coaches can have more recruiting contact than a head coach so it gives VB more time to recruit.
This gives VB basically an extra recruiting class, year on the trail as the assistant then his first year as HC is his second class.
I'm all for what gets Venables here, so if it's one or the other, I'm for whichever one works.
However, in this situation, Bill isn't really running a whole lot, and history has shown recently that a soft transition generally nets better results than a hard transition, at least in the short term.
Venables would have a year to run the program as he sees fit, with Bill's input, and he'd be able to give a number of the assistants a year long interview to see if he wants to keep working with them. Several of them are going to walk when Bill does, based on age alone, so it's safe to say that BV will have the opportunity to fill in assistants as he sees fit, including DC. It also means he doesn't have to scramble to put together a staff and recruit in an 8-9 week period. While there would be recruiting restrictions, he could recruit once they get to campus, and that would be huge for us. It gives him a year to assemble a class and re-introduce himself to the local and regional high school and JUCO coaches.
A lot of negative stuff happens in the chaos during that transition. Your recruits start looking around, you make snap judgments on assistants so you can have a staff going into Spring football, etc. Existing players have to adjust to a new S&C program during winter workouts, then they have a new process during Spring football with new coaches, they generally learn new schemes vs. what they've spent months or years implementing and getting comfortable with, etc. There are a lot of benefits to getting there a year early if that is something you're interested in.
If Venables didn't have a connection to a lot of these coaches, I could easily see him saying no. But he does have a connection with many of them, and that may increase his comfort level in a HCIW situation.
Is our class stellar or something? Are you worried that BV couldn't close the deal as head coach, but think our current staff of lazy recruiters is going to keep these recruits from looking around?
You don't think BV has been thinking about a staff? If you think he has to scramble to put together a staff, he shouldn't be even considered as HCIW. He knows exactly who he wants to hire if he comes to KSU, and the HCIW insult only makes it more difficult.
And we're worried about strength and conditioning coach adjustment? My goodness. Let's just keep the gang together forever.
Post by: wetwillie on December 23, 2015, 12:45:25 PM
Post by: Pett on December 23, 2015, 12:55:50 PM
Post by: michigancat on December 23, 2015, 01:10:32 PM
if given the choice i think everyone would like to have a clean break and hire brent as the HC with no strings. If the choice is get brent here as HCIW so snyder can validate himself and stroke his ego with the 200 win thing, victory lap, etc OR no brent venables then i'm taking the HCIW thing.
eff bill's "victory lap"
Post by: Panjandrum on December 23, 2015, 01:15:11 PM
Is our class stellar or something? Are you worried that BV couldn't close the deal as head coach, but think our current staff of lazy recruiters is going to keep these recruits from looking around?
You don't think BV has been thinking about a staff? If you think he has to scramble to put together a staff, he shouldn't be even considered as HCIW. He knows exactly who he wants to hire if he comes to KSU, and the HCIW insult only makes it more difficult.
And we're worried about strength and conditioning coach adjustment? My goodness. Let's just keep the gang together forever.
This isn't about keeping the gang together. Snyder has created an operational and administrative structure that supports winning football. If that is already in place, why rock the boat? If we all agree that what we need are better players, Venables can make that happen. Just replacing a few guys like Hayes, Miller, and Latimore with younger, more energetic recruiters will go a long way there.
Regardless of what me, you, or anyone else thinks of Snyder, he's created a structure that allows him to win with crappy recruiters and walk-ons. Venables can make adjustments as he sees fit, but don't tear the whole house down when all you need is a little remodeling.
Post by: PIPE on December 23, 2015, 01:19:59 PM
Post by: Panjandrum on December 23, 2015, 01:21:49 PM
if given the choice i think everyone would like to have a clean break and hire brent as the HC with no strings. If the choice is get brent here as HCIW so snyder can validate himself and stroke his ego with the 200 win thing, victory lap, etc OR no brent venables then i'm taking the HCIW thing.
eff bill's "victory lap"
I don't necessarily believe in the "Victory Lap" concept. I do think he wants to make sure that his administrative staff and coaches are taken care of, and that's why he's advocating so hard for Sean.
If he really believes the "Family" thing, he doesn't want to see a bunch of people in that complex lose their jobs when someone else shows up. Sean prevents that from happening.
But, if you can convince someone to come and keep the majority of your coaching staff and administrative/support staff, then he can step down without guilt.
HCIW coaxes him into retirement faster. Regardless of whether or not I want it, which I don't, there are pros to it, and it's what's most likely to get him an exit strategy more quickly. Otherwise, he has enough capital to stay as long as he wants, and no one wants that.
Post by: michigancat on December 23, 2015, 01:22:35 PM
Vague operational and administrative stuff you're talking about should not be a concern if you have any confidence in BV's ability. Venables has been a part of three winning programs (at a higher level than Snyder, in fact). He isn't some kind of idiot that's going to change every single positive thing about the program.
Post by: 'taterblast on December 23, 2015, 01:37:29 PM
Post by: wetwillie on December 23, 2015, 01:39:51 PM
Post by: CHONGS on December 23, 2015, 01:42:37 PM
Post by: michigancat on December 23, 2015, 01:46:38 PM
If you come from the mindset that Bill is inarguably the greatest football coach of all time, then you have a hard time fathoming why HCIW for the DC of the number one team in the country doesn't make much sense.Good point, but I don't think it makes sense for BV in this situation. He should be able to do whatever he wants when he gets the job. I mean Kirby Smart wasn't asked to have an apprenticeship year at Georgia. Why should BV be forced to have one?
Post by: CHONGS on December 23, 2015, 01:48:41 PM
Post by: Panjandrum on December 23, 2015, 01:54:49 PM
Why rock the boat? To do better than what Snyder can do with walk-ons and shitty recruiters.
Vague operational and administrative stuff you're talking about should not be a concern if you have any confidence in BV's ability. Venables has been a part of three winning programs (at a higher level than Snyder, in fact). He isn't some kind of idiot that's going to change every single positive thing about the program.
Some guys don't want to deal with that stuff. Some guys just want to recruit and coach football.
Let's say Venables comes in next year as HCIW and replaces Hayes. Cox probably walks because we'd ask him to coach DB's. That's one guy you replace right there. Bill retires at the end of 2016. Del and Mo walk out with him. Venables now has three more spots to fill. Guys that theoretically stay would be Dimel, Dickey, Coleman, Seiler, and some DB coach that he had a hand in bringing to KSU. Maybe he moves Sean back to DoFO, which he was really good at. Maybe Dimel leaves because he is angry for not getting a look as HC?
Plugging Venables in as HCIW doesn't mean you just keep everything the same. It just means you get a year to evaluate the roster, compile your recruiting board, maintain some sense of continuity, begin the tweaking process, and you now can do it in 12 months instead of 2.
I mean it's okay to say that you just want Snyder gone. I want Snyder gone. We don't need to beat around the bush.
Post by: Panjandrum on December 23, 2015, 02:01:35 PM
Not following the greatest coach of all time.
It's not that he's the greatest coach of all time. He's not. It's just hard to follow a demigod. Being HCIW has some advantages, and it's disingenuous to say that it doesn't have any.
I think the vast majority of people here, including myself, would just rather see BV as the HC next year. But if he chooses to go another route, then I understand why. It worked for Jimbo Fisher. It worked for Chip Kelly. In a roundabout way, it worked for Helfrich.
I mean it's not outside of the realm of possibility that both Snyder and Venables have talked to Bowden and Fisher about the advantages/disadvantages of such a situation.
Post by: michigancat on December 23, 2015, 02:02:02 PM
But if we bring on someone new, they should be able to run the program however they see fit immediately. Letting Bill maintain control honestly won't be what's best for anyone but Bill and probably Sean.
Post by: CHONGS on December 23, 2015, 02:02:47 PM
Post by: Shooter Jones on December 23, 2015, 02:07:58 PM
A lot of our fans would also want Saban to HCIW for a year too, ya know to learn how to run a football program the right (only) way.
apples and oranges, imo.
Post by: catastrophe on December 23, 2015, 02:10:54 PM
Seriously, as long as Venzy comes home, no one will care whether or not he spends 1 year as a HCIW.
Post by: CHONGS on December 23, 2015, 02:11:55 PM
Post by: Panjandrum on December 23, 2015, 02:14:02 PM
I'm fine with Snyder staying as long as he wants, I don't know why you tacked that on. He's definitely earned it and I don't think he'll have a season or recruiting class disastrous enough to change my mind.
But if we bring on someone new, they should be able to run the program however they see fit immediately. Letting Bill maintain control honestly won't be what's best for anyone but Bill and probably Sean.
If that's not how you feel, I apologize. I do want him to move on. So, maybe I'm projecting.
There's no way we make a change at this point. It's too late in the game. Maybe it's as simple as the fact that Bill, Brent, and Currie have agreed to something, but Brent doesn't want to come to Kansas State until after Clemson is done, and maybe Bill wants to give his assistants more time to find good jobs, or audition to Brent, by announcing earlier in the year. If we've crossed some sort of milestone date, and Bill really wants to take a step back and quasi-retire more than he already is, and he wants to make sure his staff is taken care of, one way or another, and Venables really does consider this his dream job, then maybe they figure just making the move after signing day is the best move for everyone involved. At that point, you may as well make him HCIW because that's the only move that's really left on the table unless you just want to put everything off for another year, but what's the point of that? I've already outlined the advantages of being a HCIW.
This could have been a completely different conversation if Venables was set to coach Clemson in the Russell Athletic Bowl, but that's not what's happening. There's no way he would even consider walking on Clemson or making this a distraction before the Orange Bowl. Based on everything that I glean about him, that's not how he rolls.
Again, HCIW is more of a matter of convenience than power in this situation. Bill is already half out the door at this point. Venables coming in just makes the timing better for everybody, and I'm sure Currie would pay Venables whatever he's making at Clemson, if that's what it took.
Post by: michigancat on December 23, 2015, 02:14:35 PM
And it didn't work out for Danny Hope at Purdue or Will Muschamp at Texas our James Franklin at Maryland or Joker Phillips at Kentucky.Not following the greatest coach of all time.
It's not that he's the greatest coach of all time. He's not. It's just hard to follow a demigod. Being HCIW has some advantages, and it's disingenuous to say that it doesn't have any.
I think the vast majority of people here, including myself, would just rather see BV as the HC next year. But if he chooses to go another route, then I understand why. It worked for Jimbo Fisher. It worked for Chip Kelly. In a roundabout way, it worked for Helfrich.
I mean it's not outside of the realm of possibility that both Snyder and Venables have talked to Bowden and Fisher about the advantages/disadvantages of such a situation.
Fisher appears to be the only one hired as HCIW? All the others seem to be already on staff, which is a major difference.
Post by: michigancat on December 23, 2015, 02:18:02 PM
Post by: pissclams on December 23, 2015, 02:19:12 PM
hopefully he rides around opposing stadiums on a hoverboard while flipping off all of the fans and teams that he has completely dominated for the last 20 years. which would be all of the teams. because he has. meanwhile BV is in the pressbox banging all of the wives and daughters of important k-state people, until 5 mins before kickoff when he wipes the sex off his face and joins the team on the field to begin DoD3.
at halftime of our last game, as a final goodbye, BV nails a bunch of chicks at midfield while snyder films it and they make a sex tape together. then after the game, all the coaches and wyatt go into that big theater in vanier and watch the tape and laugh and high five and go cats.
Post by: Shooter Jones on December 23, 2015, 02:19:53 PM
The point of BV waiting another year is he would probably make more money at Clemson next season and possibly land a better job after next season. Also who knows how long he would be HCIW.
The big money is ready to make sure he makes more as HCIW here next year.
Post by: Panjandrum on December 23, 2015, 02:24:13 PM
And it didn't work out for Danny Hope at Purdue or Will Muschamp at Texas our James Franklin at Maryland or Joker Phillips at Kentucky.Not following the greatest coach of all time.
It's not that he's the greatest coach of all time. He's not. It's just hard to follow a demigod. Being HCIW has some advantages, and it's disingenuous to say that it doesn't have any.
I think the vast majority of people here, including myself, would just rather see BV as the HC next year. But if he chooses to go another route, then I understand why. It worked for Jimbo Fisher. It worked for Chip Kelly. In a roundabout way, it worked for Helfrich.
I mean it's not outside of the realm of possibility that both Snyder and Venables have talked to Bowden and Fisher about the advantages/disadvantages of such a situation.
Fisher appears to be the only one hired as HCIW? All the others seem to be already on staff, which is a major difference.
When they did it at those other places, the HC's in question had more of an indefinite length of time. I wouldn't assume that Venables would come here as a HCIW with some indefinite tag. There would have to be a solid expiration date, around 12 months, and it would probably be backed up in the contract with a significant penalty if we didn't make it happen.
I completely agree that Venables wouldn't come here for some indefinite length of time. It would have to be set, and it would have to be a year or less.
Post by: slobber on December 23, 2015, 02:24:55 PM
Gonna win 'em all! (using Tapatalk)
Post by: Panjandrum on December 23, 2015, 02:25:38 PM
The point of BV waiting another year is he would probably make more money at Clemson next season and possibly land a better job after next season. Also who knows how long he would be HCIW.
Well, the rumor/assumption is that he doesn't want another job. He wants this job.
Post by: 'taterblast on December 23, 2015, 02:25:55 PM
bill's victory lap is going to be so sweet
hopefully he rides around opposing stadiums on a hoverboard while flipping off all of the fans and teams that he has completely dominated for the last 20 years. which would be all of the teams. because he has. meanwhile BV is in the pressbox banging all of the wives and daughters of important k-state people, until 5 mins before kickoff when he wipes the sex off his face and joins the team on the field to begin DoD3.
at halftime of our last game, as a final goodbye, BV nails a bunch of chicks at midfield while snyder films it and they make a sex tape together. then after the game, all the coaches and wyatt go into that big theater in vanier and watch the tape and laugh and high five and go cats.
:lol:
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 23, 2015, 02:27:31 PM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 23, 2015, 02:27:59 PM
Post by: HELLHAMMER on December 23, 2015, 02:28:20 PM
bill's victory lap is going to be so sweetI had that exact same dream a few nights ago. Weird.
hopefully he rides around opposing stadiums on a hoverboard while flipping off all of the fans and teams that he has completely dominated for the last 20 years. which would be all of the teams. because he has. meanwhile BV is in the pressbox banging all of the wives and daughters of important k-state people, until 5 mins before kickoff when he wipes the sex off his face and joins the team on the field to begin DoD3.
at halftime of our last game, as a final goodbye, BV nails a bunch of chicks at midfield while snyder films it and they make a sex tape together. then after the game, all the coaches and wyatt go into that big theater in vanier and watch the tape and laugh and high five and go cats.
Post by: Trim on December 23, 2015, 02:29:13 PM
This could have been a completely different conversation if Venables was set to coach Clemson in the Russell Athletic Bowl, but that's not what's happening. There's no way he would even consider walking on Clemson or making this a distraction before the Orange Bowl. Based on everything that I glean about him, that's not how he rolls.
My memory of that whole thing's pretty f'd, but isn't bailing on a team en route to a national championship and causing a bunch of distractions and torpedo'n it all what he's best known for KSU-wise, aside from the sex?
Post by: CNS on December 23, 2015, 02:29:41 PM
Post by: Trim on December 23, 2015, 02:32:59 PM
Post by: michigancat on December 23, 2015, 02:33:25 PM
I didn't realize we were talking about a HCIW agreement unlike any other in history. My bad.And it didn't work out for Danny Hope at Purdue or Will Muschamp at Texas our James Franklin at Maryland or Joker Phillips at Kentucky.Not following the greatest coach of all time.
It's not that he's the greatest coach of all time. He's not. It's just hard to follow a demigod. Being HCIW has some advantages, and it's disingenuous to say that it doesn't have any.
I think the vast majority of people here, including myself, would just rather see BV as the HC next year. But if he chooses to go another route, then I understand why. It worked for Jimbo Fisher. It worked for Chip Kelly. In a roundabout way, it worked for Helfrich.
I mean it's not outside of the realm of possibility that both Snyder and Venables have talked to Bowden and Fisher about the advantages/disadvantages of such a situation.
Fisher appears to be the only one hired as HCIW? All the others seem to be already on staff, which is a major difference.
When they did it at those other places, the HC's in question had more of an indefinite length of time. I wouldn't assume that Venables would come here as a HCIW with some indefinite tag. There would have to be a solid expiration date, around 12 months, and it would probably be backed up in the contract with a significant penalty if we didn't make it happen.
I completely agree that Venables wouldn't come here for some indefinite length of time. It would have to be set, and it would have to be a year or less.
Post by: Panjandrum on December 23, 2015, 02:33:59 PM
This could have been a completely different conversation if Venables was set to coach Clemson in the Russell Athletic Bowl, but that's not what's happening. There's no way he would even consider walking on Clemson or making this a distraction before the Orange Bowl. Based on everything that I glean about him, that's not how he rolls.
My memory of that whole thing's pretty f'd, but isn't bailing on a team en route to a national championship and causing a bunch of distractions and torpedo'n it all what he's best known for KSU-wise, aside from the sex?
I think he found Jesus in Oklahoma.
Post by: Emo EMAW on December 23, 2015, 02:34:48 PM
Post by: CNS on December 23, 2015, 02:36:06 PM
Where is Stan Weber in 'clams scene?
Doing color on radio.
Post by: Gooch on December 23, 2015, 02:41:50 PM
"That donkey punch was brought to you by Fontanel Hybrids"Where is Stan Weber in 'clams scene?
Doing color on radio.
Post by: Panjandrum on December 23, 2015, 02:45:10 PM
I didn't realize we were talking about a HCIW agreement unlike any other in history. My bad.
I mean if you're going to get a guy like Venables to do it, it's going to take something different. I agree with you that it wouldn't be like the other situations. The practice in-and-of-itself is pretty much dead.
It's just a rumor. May be nothing. May be true. But it's not completely crazy. Two of Snyder's good friends did it in Alvarez and Bowden. He may think it's the way to go?
Post by: Panjandrum on December 23, 2015, 02:45:40 PM
"That donkey punch was brought to you by Fontanel Hybrids"Where is Stan Weber in 'clams scene?
Doing color on radio.
Gooch wins.
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on December 23, 2015, 02:47:08 PM
Post by: Gooch on December 23, 2015, 02:50:23 PM
I smile a really big smile when I imagine Snyder walking venables around the office on the first day saying things like "this is where I keep the stapler" and "when you write notes to people you really wants to write them at an angle and this is why....".:lol:
Post by: #LIFE on December 23, 2015, 02:51:51 PM
"That donkey punch was brought to you by Fontanel Hybrids"Where is Stan Weber in 'clams scene?
Doing color on radio.
Holy crap :lol: :lol: :lol:
Post by: ednksu on December 23, 2015, 02:56:27 PM
"That donkey punch was brought to you by Fontanel Hybrids"Where is Stan Weber in 'clams scene?
Doing color on radio.
Holy crap :lol: :lol: :lol:
Case IH red zone :sdeek: :sdeek:
Post by: Skipper44 on December 23, 2015, 03:05:37 PM
yes, I am praying to the old gods and the new the Alvarez - Bielema transition is what is happening. Bielema DC'd for two seasons while Wisky had two good seasons as John Stocco developed as a QB and they went 12-1 when he was a Sr in Bielema's first year. We have a similar opportunity with Delton/Thompson.I didn't realize we were talking about a HCIW agreement unlike any other in history. My bad.
I mean if you're going to get a guy like Venables to do it, it's going to take something different. I agree with you that it wouldn't be like the other situations. The practice in-and-of-itself is pretty much dead.
It's just a rumor. May be nothing. May be true. But it's not completely crazy. Two of Snyder's good friends did it in Alvarez and Bowden. He may think it's the way to go?
I also like idea of BV getting the time to continue Andre's work at moving away from WRSOAT's "efforts" while Snyder is providing cover as HC. If I am BV I would absolutely not mind Bill sticking around to coach the remnants of the 2013 class, woof.
Post by: deputy dawg on December 23, 2015, 03:11:01 PM
Is our class stellar or something? Are you worried that BV couldn't close the deal as head coach, but think our current staff of lazy recruiters is going to keep these recruits from looking around?
You don't think BV has been thinking about a staff? If you think he has to scramble to put together a staff, he shouldn't be even considered as HCIW. He knows exactly who he wants to hire if he comes to KSU, and the HCIW insult only makes it more difficult.
And we're worried about strength and conditioning coach adjustment? My goodness. Let's just keep the gang together forever.
This isn't about keeping the gang together. Snyder has created an operational and administrative structure that supports winning football. If that is already in place, why rock the boat? If we all agree that what we need are better players, Venables can make that happen. Just replacing a few guys like Hayes, Miller, and Latimore with younger, more energetic recruiters will go a long way there.
Regardless of what me, you, or anyone else thinks of Snyder, he's created a structure that allows him to win with crappy recruiters and walk-ons. Venables can make adjustments as he sees fit, but don't tear the whole house down when all you need is a little remodeling.
The buzz is that Snyder has such a unique framework/structure for winning football at K-State, the successor, in order to avoid a breakdown and long rebuilding process, will need to adopt the Snyder way of doing things. You'd think Venables knows that framework. One of the reasons I happen to like the potential of Leavitt's involvement in all this is because Leavitt knows the framework as well. A friend with a friend in the OU athletic dept is adamant that the FB program will collapse unless the Snyder successor is chosen within the Snyder coaching tree.
Post by: michigancat on December 23, 2015, 03:13:57 PM
This is probably the most compelling point made so far. But don't you think would just prefer to get rid of key WRSOAT contributors as soon as possible. Most would remain if he's HCIW.yes, I am praying to the old gods and the new the Alvarez - Bielema transition is what is happening. Bielema DC'd for two seasons while Wisky had two good seasons as John Stocco developed as a QB and they went 12-1 when he was a Sr in Bielema's first year. We have a similar opportunity with Delton/Thompson.I didn't realize we were talking about a HCIW agreement unlike any other in history. My bad.
I mean if you're going to get a guy like Venables to do it, it's going to take something different. I agree with you that it wouldn't be like the other situations. The practice in-and-of-itself is pretty much dead.
It's just a rumor. May be nothing. May be true. But it's not completely crazy. Two of Snyder's good friends did it in Alvarez and Bowden. He may think it's the way to go?
I also like idea of BV getting the time to continue Andre's work at moving away from WRSOAT's "efforts" while Snyder is providing cover as HC. If I am BV I would absolutely not mind Bill sticking around to coach the remnants of the 2013 class, woof.
Post by: Skipper44 on December 23, 2015, 03:19:59 PM
Just Hayes leaving and bringing in an actual DB coach would be a huge start and offense it's not like we have the personnel at WR or QB to run the spread anyways.This is probably the most compelling point made so far. But don't you think would just prefer to get rid of key WRSOAT contributors as soon as possible. Most would remain if he's HCIW.yes, I am praying to the old gods and the new the Alvarez - Bielema transition is what is happening. Bielema DC'd for two seasons while Wisky had two good seasons as John Stocco developed as a QB and they went 12-1 when he was a Sr in Bielema's first year. We have a similar opportunity with Delton/Thompson.I didn't realize we were talking about a HCIW agreement unlike any other in history. My bad.
I mean if you're going to get a guy like Venables to do it, it's going to take something different. I agree with you that it wouldn't be like the other situations. The practice in-and-of-itself is pretty much dead.
It's just a rumor. May be nothing. May be true. But it's not completely crazy. Two of Snyder's good friends did it in Alvarez and Bowden. He may think it's the way to go?
I also like idea of BV getting the time to continue Andre's work at moving away from WRSOAT's "efforts" while Snyder is providing cover as HC. If I am BV I would absolutely not mind Bill sticking around to coach the remnants of the 2013 class, woof.
Post by: Skipper44 on December 23, 2015, 03:29:28 PM
Was this friend of a friend at OU pre Stoops? The "only the Snyder way has ever won here" is such bullshit. If Prince wasn't a total ahole and Raheem stayed for a couple years he likely goes bowling every year Freeman was here.Is our class stellar or something? Are you worried that BV couldn't close the deal as head coach, but think our current staff of lazy recruiters is going to keep these recruits from looking around?
You don't think BV has been thinking about a staff? If you think he has to scramble to put together a staff, he shouldn't be even considered as HCIW. He knows exactly who he wants to hire if he comes to KSU, and the HCIW insult only makes it more difficult.
And we're worried about strength and conditioning coach adjustment? My goodness. Let's just keep the gang together forever.
This isn't about keeping the gang together. Snyder has created an operational and administrative structure that supports winning football. If that is already in place, why rock the boat? If we all agree that what we need are better players, Venables can make that happen. Just replacing a few guys like Hayes, Miller, and Latimore with younger, more energetic recruiters will go a long way there.
Regardless of what me, you, or anyone else thinks of Snyder, he's created a structure that allows him to win with crappy recruiters and walk-ons. Venables can make adjustments as he sees fit, but don't tear the whole house down when all you need is a little remodeling.
The buzz is that Snyder has such a unique framework/structure for winning football at K-State, the successor, in order to avoid a breakdown and long rebuilding process, will need to adopt the Snyder way of doing things. You'd think Venables knows that framework. One of the reasons I happen to like the potential of Leavitt's involvement in all this is because Leavitt knows the framework as well. A friend with a friend in the OU athletic dept is adamant that the FB program will collapse unless the Snyder successor is chosen within the Snyder coaching tree.
P5 resources + multiple games in Tex/close to the Metroplex + NU & MU leaving the conference + KSU still accepting Ds on JC transcripts = winning
Post by: Gooch on December 23, 2015, 03:56:31 PM
The buzz is that Snyder has such a unique framework/structure for winning football at K-State, the successor, in order to avoid a breakdown and long rebuilding process, will need to adopt the Snyder way of doing things. You'd think Venables knows that framework. One of the reasons I happen to like the potential of Leavitt's involvement in all this is because Leavitt knows the framework as well. A friend with a friend in the OU athletic dept is adamant that the FB program will collapse unless the Snyder successor is chosen within the Snyder coaching tree.Oh I get it. This is one of those copy/paste posts from GPC.
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on December 23, 2015, 04:00:23 PM
Post by: deputy dawg on December 23, 2015, 04:01:22 PM
The buzz is that Snyder has such a unique framework/structure for winning football at K-State, the successor, in order to avoid a breakdown and long rebuilding process, will need to adopt the Snyder way of doing things. You'd think Venables knows that framework. One of the reasons I happen to like the potential of Leavitt's involvement in all this is because Leavitt knows the framework as well. A friend with a friend in the OU athletic dept is adamant that the FB program will collapse unless the Snyder successor is chosen within the Snyder coaching tree.Oh I get it. This is one of those copy/paste posts from GPC.
What is GPC?
Post by: Canary on December 23, 2015, 04:02:46 PM
bill's victory lap is going to be so sweetHilarious. Sophomoric, but hilarious.
hopefully he rides around opposing stadiums on a hoverboard while flipping off all of the fans and teams that he has completely dominated for the last 20 years. which would be all of the teams. because he has. meanwhile BV is in the pressbox banging all of the wives and daughters of important k-state people, until 5 mins before kickoff when he wipes the sex off his face and joins the team on the field to begin DoD3.
at halftime of our last game, as a final goodbye, BV nails a bunch of chicks at midfield while snyder films it and they make a sex tape together. then after the game, all the coaches and wyatt go into that big theater in vanier and watch the tape and laugh and high five and go cats.
Post by: deputy dawg on December 23, 2015, 04:08:06 PM
Was this friend of a friend at OU pre Stoops? The "only the Snyder way has ever won here" is such bullshit. If Prince wasn't a total ahole and Raheem stayed for a couple years he likely goes bowling every year Freeman was here.Is our class stellar or something? Are you worried that BV couldn't close the deal as head coach, but think our current staff of lazy recruiters is going to keep these recruits from looking around?
You don't think BV has been thinking about a staff? If you think he has to scramble to put together a staff, he shouldn't be even considered as HCIW. He knows exactly who he wants to hire if he comes to KSU, and the HCIW insult only makes it more difficult.
And we're worried about strength and conditioning coach adjustment? My goodness. Let's just keep the gang together forever.
This isn't about keeping the gang together. Snyder has created an operational and administrative structure that supports winning football. If that is already in place, why rock the boat? If we all agree that what we need are better players, Venables can make that happen. Just replacing a few guys like Hayes, Miller, and Latimore with younger, more energetic recruiters will go a long way there.
Regardless of what me, you, or anyone else thinks of Snyder, he's created a structure that allows him to win with crappy recruiters and walk-ons. Venables can make adjustments as he sees fit, but don't tear the whole house down when all you need is a little remodeling.
The buzz is that Snyder has such a unique framework/structure for winning football at K-State, the successor, in order to avoid a breakdown and long rebuilding process, will need to adopt the Snyder way of doing things. You'd think Venables knows that framework. One of the reasons I happen to like the potential of Leavitt's involvement in all this is because Leavitt knows the framework as well. A friend with a friend in the OU athletic dept is adamant that the FB program will collapse unless the Snyder successor is chosen within the Snyder coaching tree.
P5 resources + multiple games in Tex/close to the Metroplex + NU & MU leaving the conference + KSU still accepting Ds on JC transcripts = winning
Flood aggie has this potential as well...are the programs in the same stage of development?
Post by: pissclams on December 23, 2015, 04:39:27 PM
everything is sophomoric to goEMAW's resident 70 yr oldbill's victory lap is going to be so sweetHilarious. Sophomoric, but hilarious.
hopefully he rides around opposing stadiums on a hoverboard while flipping off all of the fans and teams that he has completely dominated for the last 20 years. which would be all of the teams. because he has. meanwhile BV is in the pressbox banging all of the wives and daughters of important k-state people, until 5 mins before kickoff when he wipes the sex off his face and joins the team on the field to begin DoD3.
at halftime of our last game, as a final goodbye, BV nails a bunch of chicks at midfield while snyder films it and they make a sex tape together. then after the game, all the coaches and wyatt go into that big theater in vanier and watch the tape and laugh and high five and go cats.
Post by: Bloodfart on December 23, 2015, 04:42:42 PM
Post by: Canary on December 23, 2015, 04:45:37 PM
That's hilarious too. Literally made me laugh.everything is sophomoric to goEMAW's resident 70 yr oldbill's victory lap is going to be so sweetHilarious. Sophomoric, but hilarious.
hopefully he rides around opposing stadiums on a hoverboard while flipping off all of the fans and teams that he has completely dominated for the last 20 years. which would be all of the teams. because he has. meanwhile BV is in the pressbox banging all of the wives and daughters of important k-state people, until 5 mins before kickoff when he wipes the sex off his face and joins the team on the field to begin DoD3.
at halftime of our last game, as a final goodbye, BV nails a bunch of chicks at midfield while snyder films it and they make a sex tape together. then after the game, all the coaches and wyatt go into that big theater in vanier and watch the tape and laugh and high five and go cats.
Post by: Spracne on December 23, 2015, 04:59:40 PM
Post by: Canary on December 23, 2015, 05:14:41 PM
Out loud?Yes. I hope Im still on this board in my seventies.
Post by: pissclams on December 23, 2015, 05:16:44 PM
everything is hilarious to goEMAW's resident literalistThat's hilarious too. Literally made me laugh.everything is sophomoric to goEMAW's resident 70 yr oldbill's victory lap is going to be so sweetHilarious. Sophomoric, but hilarious.
hopefully he rides around opposing stadiums on a hoverboard while flipping off all of the fans and teams that he has completely dominated for the last 20 years. which would be all of the teams. because he has. meanwhile BV is in the pressbox banging all of the wives and daughters of important k-state people, until 5 mins before kickoff when he wipes the sex off his face and joins the team on the field to begin DoD3.
at halftime of our last game, as a final goodbye, BV nails a bunch of chicks at midfield while snyder films it and they make a sex tape together. then after the game, all the coaches and wyatt go into that big theater in vanier and watch the tape and laugh and high five and go cats.
Post by: Canary on December 23, 2015, 05:18:05 PM
I give up. You win. But your post was still hilarious in my opinion.everything is hilarious to goEMAW's resident literalistThat's hilarious too. Literally made me laugh.everything is sophomoric to goEMAW's resident 70 yr oldbill's victory lap is going to be so sweetHilarious. Sophomoric, but hilarious.
hopefully he rides around opposing stadiums on a hoverboard while flipping off all of the fans and teams that he has completely dominated for the last 20 years. which would be all of the teams. because he has. meanwhile BV is in the pressbox banging all of the wives and daughters of important k-state people, until 5 mins before kickoff when he wipes the sex off his face and joins the team on the field to begin DoD3.
at halftime of our last game, as a final goodbye, BV nails a bunch of chicks at midfield while snyder films it and they make a sex tape together. then after the game, all the coaches and wyatt go into that big theater in vanier and watch the tape and laugh and high five and go cats.
Post by: The Big Train on December 23, 2015, 06:35:11 PM
Post by: Skipper44 on December 23, 2015, 07:20:36 PM
well, Dan McCartney had them respectable for a few seasons and I would call him a competent coach at best. Also, we are clearly the dominate program in our state, are much closer to Texas and ISU doesn't have our respect for course work completed at fine community colleges everywhere (AFAIK)Was this friend of a friend at OU pre Stoops? The "only the Snyder way has ever won here" is such bullshit. If Prince wasn't a total ahole and Raheem stayed for a couple years he likely goes bowling every year Freeman was here.Is our class stellar or something? Are you worried that BV couldn't close the deal as head coach, but think our current staff of lazy recruiters is going to keep these recruits from looking around?
You don't think BV has been thinking about a staff? If you think he has to scramble to put together a staff, he shouldn't be even considered as HCIW. He knows exactly who he wants to hire if he comes to KSU, and the HCIW insult only makes it more difficult.
And we're worried about strength and conditioning coach adjustment? My goodness. Let's just keep the gang together forever.
This isn't about keeping the gang together. Snyder has created an operational and administrative structure that supports winning football. If that is already in place, why rock the boat? If we all agree that what we need are better players, Venables can make that happen. Just replacing a few guys like Hayes, Miller, and Latimore with younger, more energetic recruiters will go a long way there.
Regardless of what me, you, or anyone else thinks of Snyder, he's created a structure that allows him to win with crappy recruiters and walk-ons. Venables can make adjustments as he sees fit, but don't tear the whole house down when all you need is a little remodeling.
The buzz is that Snyder has such a unique framework/structure for winning football at K-State, the successor, in order to avoid a breakdown and long rebuilding process, will need to adopt the Snyder way of doing things. You'd think Venables knows that framework. One of the reasons I happen to like the potential of Leavitt's involvement in all this is because Leavitt knows the framework as well. A friend with a friend in the OU athletic dept is adamant that the FB program will collapse unless the Snyder successor is chosen within the Snyder coaching tree.
P5 resources + multiple games in Tex/close to the Metroplex + NU & MU leaving the conference + KSU still accepting Ds on JC transcripts = winning
Flood aggie has this potential as well...are the programs in the same stage of development?
Really, the Chizik hire and the MAC dude they just hired speak to what even the 9th best job in the conference offers.
Post by: CHONGS on December 23, 2015, 07:25:35 PM
The programs aren't that far apart at this exact point in time.Was this friend of a friend at OU pre Stoops? The "only the Snyder way has ever won here" is such bullshit. If Prince wasn't a total ahole and Raheem stayed for a couple years he likely goes bowling every year Freeman was here.Is our class stellar or something? Are you worried that BV couldn't close the deal as head coach, but think our current staff of lazy recruiters is going to keep these recruits from looking around?
You don't think BV has been thinking about a staff? If you think he has to scramble to put together a staff, he shouldn't be even considered as HCIW. He knows exactly who he wants to hire if he comes to KSU, and the HCIW insult only makes it more difficult.
And we're worried about strength and conditioning coach adjustment? My goodness. Let's just keep the gang together forever.
This isn't about keeping the gang together. Snyder has created an operational and administrative structure that supports winning football. If that is already in place, why rock the boat? If we all agree that what we need are better players, Venables can make that happen. Just replacing a few guys like Hayes, Miller, and Latimore with younger, more energetic recruiters will go a long way there.
Regardless of what me, you, or anyone else thinks of Snyder, he's created a structure that allows him to win with crappy recruiters and walk-ons. Venables can make adjustments as he sees fit, but don't tear the whole house down when all you need is a little remodeling.
The buzz is that Snyder has such a unique framework/structure for winning football at K-State, the successor, in order to avoid a breakdown and long rebuilding process, will need to adopt the Snyder way of doing things. You'd think Venables knows that framework. One of the reasons I happen to like the potential of Leavitt's involvement in all this is because Leavitt knows the framework as well. A friend with a friend in the OU athletic dept is adamant that the FB program will collapse unless the Snyder successor is chosen within the Snyder coaching tree.
P5 resources + multiple games in Tex/close to the Metroplex + NU & MU leaving the conference + KSU still accepting Ds on JC transcripts = winning
Flood aggie has this potential as well...are the programs in the same stage of development?
Post by: pissclams on December 23, 2015, 08:05:24 PM
The programs aren't that far apart at this exact point in time.Was this friend of a friend at OU pre Stoops? The "only the Snyder way has ever won here" is such bullshit. If Prince wasn't a total ahole and Raheem stayed for a couple years he likely goes bowling every year Freeman was here.Is our class stellar or something? Are you worried that BV couldn't close the deal as head coach, but think our current staff of lazy recruiters is going to keep these recruits from looking around?
You don't think BV has been thinking about a staff? If you think he has to scramble to put together a staff, he shouldn't be even considered as HCIW. He knows exactly who he wants to hire if he comes to KSU, and the HCIW insult only makes it more difficult.
And we're worried about strength and conditioning coach adjustment? My goodness. Let's just keep the gang together forever.
This isn't about keeping the gang together. Snyder has created an operational and administrative structure that supports winning football. If that is already in place, why rock the boat? If we all agree that what we need are better players, Venables can make that happen. Just replacing a few guys like Hayes, Miller, and Latimore with younger, more energetic recruiters will go a long way there.
Regardless of what me, you, or anyone else thinks of Snyder, he's created a structure that allows him to win with crappy recruiters and walk-ons. Venables can make adjustments as he sees fit, but don't tear the whole house down when all you need is a little remodeling.
The buzz is that Snyder has such a unique framework/structure for winning football at K-State, the successor, in order to avoid a breakdown and long rebuilding process, will need to adopt the Snyder way of doing things. You'd think Venables knows that framework. One of the reasons I happen to like the potential of Leavitt's involvement in all this is because Leavitt knows the framework as well. A friend with a friend in the OU athletic dept is adamant that the FB program will collapse unless the Snyder successor is chosen within the Snyder coaching tree.
P5 resources + multiple games in Tex/close to the Metroplex + NU & MU leaving the conference + KSU still accepting Ds on JC transcripts = winning
Flood aggie has this potential as well...are the programs in the same stage of development?
i guess if you only look at them in the context of this season. other than that, what are you talking about
Post by: Pete on December 23, 2015, 08:07:36 PM
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Post by: slobber on December 23, 2015, 08:23:11 PM
93 in mhk was awesomeWe flood well.
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Post by: pvegs on December 23, 2015, 10:43:49 PM
Post by: The Big Train on December 23, 2015, 10:46:07 PM
Post by: GoodForAnother on December 23, 2015, 11:18:41 PM
tonight i took 100+ pre-packaged sandwich meal combos to vanier for the team dinner. head dietician, scott, helped me and i asked him if he thinks he'll like working for venables. he just laughed and smiled. took that as a good sign. i'm taking fried chicken tmrm for lunch/snack. will try again for more info :)
you'll likely get fired before you make the second delivery
Post by: Cire on December 23, 2015, 11:18:47 PM
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Post by: star seed 7 on December 23, 2015, 11:28:44 PM
For Christ sakes we can't afford venzy as hciw, hell we probably can't afford him as hc
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loser outed
Post by: The Big Train on December 23, 2015, 11:34:06 PM
tonight i took 100+ pre-packaged sandwich meal combos to vanier for the team dinner. head dietician, scott, helped me and i asked him if he thinks he'll like working for venables. he just laughed and smiled. took that as a good sign. i'm taking fried chicken tmrm for lunch/snack. will try again for more info :)
you'll likely get fired before you make the second delivery
Go mod your own board you rough ridin' loser
Post by: Panjandrum on December 23, 2015, 11:38:28 PM
I didn't make that post in #1Thread about panj but I'm feeling it now
Help me out. I'm not following.
Post by: pvegs on December 23, 2015, 11:39:27 PM
tonight i took 100+ pre-packaged sandwich meal combos to vanier for the team dinner. head dietician, scott, helped me and i asked him if he thinks he'll like working for venables. he just laughed and smiled. took that as a good sign. i'm taking fried chicken tmrm for lunch/snack. will try again for more info :)
you'll likely get fired before you make the second delivery
:)
Post by: The Big Train on December 23, 2015, 11:40:57 PM
I didn't make that post in #1Thread about panj but I'm feeling it now
Help me out. I'm not following.
http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=33274.msg1422085#msg1422085
Post by: Panjandrum on December 23, 2015, 11:48:45 PM
I didn't make that post in #1Thread about panj but I'm feeling it now
Help me out. I'm not following.
http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=33274.msg1422085#msg1422085
Thanks.
Post by: MakeItRain on December 24, 2015, 01:24:19 AM
tonight i took 100+ pre-packaged sandwich meal combos to vanier for the team dinner. head dietician, scott, helped me and i asked him if he thinks he'll like working for venables. he just laughed and smiled. took that as a good sign. i'm taking fried chicken tmrm for lunch/snack. will try again for more info :)
you'll likely get fired before you make the second delivery
:ROFL:
annnnnd tbt didn't get the joke
Post by: Panjandrum on December 24, 2015, 01:29:27 AM
tonight i took 100+ pre-packaged sandwich meal combos to vanier for the team dinner. head dietician, scott, helped me and i asked him if he thinks he'll like working for venables. he just laughed and smiled. took that as a good sign. i'm taking fried chicken tmrm for lunch/snack. will try again for more info :)
you'll likely get fired before you make the second delivery
:ROFL:
annnnnd tbt didn't get the joke
He is feisty tonight.
Post by: star seed 7 on December 24, 2015, 01:32:31 AM
Post by: wabash909 on December 24, 2015, 01:48:27 AM
The buzz is that Snyder has such a unique framework/structure for winning football at K-State, the successor, in order to avoid a breakdown and long rebuilding process, will need to adopt the Snyder way of doing things. You'd think Venables knows that framework. One of the reasons I happen to like the potential of Leavitt's involvement in all this is because Leavitt knows the framework as well. A friend with a friend in the OU athletic dept is adamant that the FB program will collapse unless the Snyder successor is chosen within the Snyder coaching tree.
From now on, I'm going to refer to the football program as "the framework".
Post by: Dugout DickStone on December 24, 2015, 06:31:28 AM
The buzz is that Snyder has such a unique framework/structure for winning football at K-State, the successor, in order to avoid a breakdown and long rebuilding process, will need to adopt the Snyder way of doing things. You'd think Venables knows that framework. One of the reasons I happen to like the potential of Leavitt's involvement in all this is because Leavitt knows the framework as well. A friend with a friend in the OU athletic dept is adamant that the FB program will collapse unless the Snyder successor is chosen within the Snyder coaching tree.
From now on, I'm going to refer to the football program as "the framework".
The Structure is also good
Post by: CatMission on December 24, 2015, 08:21:21 AM
The buzz is that Snyder has such a unique framework/structure for winning football at K-State, the successor, in order to avoid a breakdown and long rebuilding process, will need to adopt the Snyder way of doing things. You'd think Venables knows that framework. One of the reasons I happen to like the potential of Leavitt's involvement in all this is because Leavitt knows the framework as well. A friend with a friend in the OU athletic dept is adamant that the FB program will collapse unless the Snyder successor is chosen within the Snyder coaching tree.
From now on, I'm going to refer to the football program as "the framework".
The Structure is also good
Either works for me because they imply the necessity of cranes to build. And I love me some cranes.
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Post by: CNS on December 24, 2015, 08:23:20 AM
Post by: wabash909 on December 24, 2015, 08:50:23 AM
Post by: slobber on December 24, 2015, 01:12:00 PM
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Post by: Katpappy on December 24, 2015, 07:15:41 PM
I'm proud of the house (FYP. :blush:frameworkstructure) we built.
Post by: steve dave on December 24, 2015, 11:54:32 PM
Post by: slobber on December 25, 2015, 05:02:56 AM
Will do sex on the ADs wife. Happy holidays friends.:Wha:
Post by: wabash909 on December 25, 2015, 05:18:00 AM
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Post by: Shooter Jones on December 25, 2015, 10:11:41 AM
<----- PROUDI'm proud of the house (FYP. :blush:frameworkstructure) we built.
Post by: Cire on December 25, 2015, 10:30:30 AM
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Post by: That_Guy on December 25, 2015, 12:38:54 PM
Done deal, announce after playoffs?. What are we telling cruits
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Done deal....eh?
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Post by: TwobizE2P on December 25, 2015, 02:36:57 PM
Post by: Asteriskhead on December 25, 2015, 04:03:40 PM
Will do sex on the ADs wife. Happy holidays friends.
:fatty:
Post by: meow meow on December 25, 2015, 04:12:13 PM
In Bill's hands at this point....seriously.
Go on
Post by: michigancat on December 25, 2015, 04:23:55 PM
Post by: wabash909 on December 25, 2015, 04:27:20 PM
In Bill's hands at this point....seriously.
Confirmed.
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Post by: BackPayne on December 25, 2015, 04:53:13 PM
Post by: pissclams on December 25, 2015, 05:09:09 PM
What is? Hiring him? Role in program?
his penis
Post by: BackPayne on December 25, 2015, 05:20:26 PM
What is? Hiring him? Role in program?
his penis
:Yuck:
Post by: i poo crabs on December 25, 2015, 05:21:42 PM
Done deal, announce after playoffs?. What are we telling cruits
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Post by: Trim on December 25, 2015, 05:55:25 PM
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Post by: Trim on December 25, 2015, 06:02:13 PM
Post by: TwobizE2P on December 25, 2015, 06:43:43 PM
What is? Hiring him? Role in program?
A finalized transition plan.
Post by: slackcat on December 25, 2015, 06:47:00 PM
Post by: O-town Kat on December 25, 2015, 09:05:40 PM
Why dont we PI him into quitting like last time and just get on with this.What is? Hiring him? Role in program?
A finalized transition plan.
Post by: GoodForAnother on December 26, 2015, 12:50:03 PM
tonight i took 100+ pre-packaged sandwich meal combos to vanier for the team dinner. head dietician, scott, helped me and i asked him if he thinks he'll like working for venables. he just laughed and smiled. took that as a good sign. i'm taking fried chicken tmrm for lunch/snack. will try again for more info :)
you'll likely get fired before you make the second delivery
:ROFL:
annnnnd tbt didn't get the joke
Not surprising that tbt isn't familiar with the KSU AD's long vendetta against the delivery industry
Post by: The Big Train on December 26, 2015, 09:08:41 PM
tonight i took 100+ pre-packaged sandwich meal combos to vanier for the team dinner. head dietician, scott, helped me and i asked him if he thinks he'll like working for venables. he just laughed and smiled. took that as a good sign. i'm taking fried chicken tmrm for lunch/snack. will try again for more info :)
you'll likely get fired before you make the second delivery
:ROFL:
annnnnd tbt didn't get the joke
Not surprising that tbt isn't familiar with the KSU AD's long vendetta against the delivery industry
and again nobody looks from my side and point of view. i wanted more story, true or not, so I coddled pvegs some so they would post more. guess I didn't get the memo to berate. My bad
Post by: star seed 7 on December 26, 2015, 09:27:38 PM
Post by: The Big Train on December 26, 2015, 09:31:52 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on December 26, 2015, 09:46:01 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on December 26, 2015, 09:46:38 PM
tonight i took 100+ pre-packaged sandwich meal combos to vanier for the team dinner. head dietician, scott, helped me and i asked him if he thinks he'll like working for venables. he just laughed and smiled. took that as a good sign. i'm taking fried chicken tmrm for lunch/snack. will try again for more info :)
you'll likely get fired before you make the second delivery
:ROFL:
annnnnd tbt didn't get the joke
Not surprising that tbt isn't familiar with the KSU AD's long vendetta against the delivery industry
and again nobody looks from my side and point of view. i wanted more story, true or not, so I coddled pvegs some so they would post more. guess I didn't get the memo to berate. My bad
Wut x2
Post by: The Big Train on December 26, 2015, 09:48:08 PM
Post by: That_Guy on December 26, 2015, 10:04:38 PM
Loltonight i took 100+ pre-packaged sandwich meal combos to vanier for the team dinner. head dietician, scott, helped me and i asked him if he thinks he'll like working for venables. he just laughed and smiled. took that as a good sign. i'm taking fried chicken tmrm for lunch/snack. will try again for more info :)
you'll likely get fired before you make the second delivery
:ROFL:
annnnnd tbt didn't get the joke
Not surprising that tbt isn't familiar with the KSU AD's long vendetta against the delivery industry
and again nobody looks from my side and point of view. i wanted more story, true or not, so I coddled pvegs some so they would post more. guess I didn't get the memo to berate. My bad
Wut x2
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Post by: Tobias on December 26, 2015, 10:05:54 PM
Post by: The Big Train on December 26, 2015, 10:07:04 PM
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on December 26, 2015, 10:34:05 PM
What is? Hiring him? Role in program?
A finalized transition plan.
What options are on bill's table?
Post by: TwobizE2P on December 26, 2015, 10:52:16 PM
What is? Hiring him? Role in program?
A finalized transition plan.
What options are on bill's table?
Appears to be retirement after the bowl game or yielding to a HCIW partner with a contractually defined retirement at end of 16. Alternatively, he could decide on neither if he chose & maintain status quo. Still a fluid situation, as I understand it. Retirement of asst coaches or resignation of asst coaches could be strong factor in decision making process. That's what I know.
Post by: chum1 on December 26, 2015, 11:14:31 PM
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on December 26, 2015, 11:18:07 PM
What is? Hiring him? Role in program?
A finalized transition plan.
What options are on bill's table?
Appears to be retirement after the bowl game or yielding to a HCIW partner with a contractually defined retirement at end of 16. Alternatively, he could decide on neither if he chose & maintain status quo. Still a fluid situation, as I understand it. Retirement of asst coaches or resignation of asst coaches could be strong factor in decision making process. That's what I know.
I believe this to be true. Any thoughts on where he is leaning?
Post by: MakeItRain on December 26, 2015, 11:32:29 PM
i have no idea what you were saying, TBT
I didn't either. What are you sipping on, tbt?
Post by: TwobizE2P on December 26, 2015, 11:38:07 PM
What is? Hiring him? Role in program?
A finalized transition plan.
What options are on bill's table?
Appears to be retirement after the bowl game or yielding to a HCIW partner with a contractually defined retirement at end of 16. Alternatively, he could decide on neither if he chose & maintain status quo. Still a fluid situation, as I understand it. Retirement of asst coaches or resignation of asst coaches could be strong factor in decision making process. That's what I know.
I believe this to be true. Any thoughts on where he leaning?
I don't, sorry. In the end, I believe he will do the right thing for K-State. It wouldn't surprise me if he wasn't 100% sure of what that is, at least at this point.
Post by: The Big Train on December 26, 2015, 11:41:43 PM
i have no idea what you were saying, TBT
I didn't either. What are you sipping on, tbt?
Natty light
Post by: That_Guy on December 27, 2015, 03:58:04 AM
i have no idea what you were saying, TBT
I didn't either. What are you sipping on, tbt?
Natty light
:cheers:
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There will be a lot of this, if this all goes down the way many of us fantasize that it will.
Post by: Emo EMAW on December 28, 2015, 02:24:52 PM
Post by: Shooter Jones on December 28, 2015, 02:25:33 PM
So is this a run the play clock down to 1 and barely get the play off situation? Or a come off the sidelines and have to call a time out situation re: Indecisiveness?
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Post by: meow meow on December 28, 2015, 02:31:16 PM
Post by: slackcat on December 28, 2015, 02:40:51 PM
http://forums.theclemsoninsider.com/showthread.php?t=54771
:sigh:
Post by: scottwildcat on December 28, 2015, 02:43:21 PM
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Post by: That_Guy on December 28, 2015, 03:11:15 PM
Lol that means nothing
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This. Coaches lie all the time to keep things quiet. Especially when you're teams getting ready for a National Title. Those quotes mean nothing what so ever.
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Post by: Shooter Jones on December 28, 2015, 03:19:40 PM
Post by: manpow5 on December 28, 2015, 04:10:05 PM
Source: C++
Post by: joda on December 28, 2015, 04:14:26 PM
Post by: Emo EMAW on December 28, 2015, 04:14:42 PM
"I will be at Clemson forever and Clemson is the only school for me. I get paid $1.3 million a year and that's enough for me. If a school came along offering me 4 times that, I wouldn't even consider it. However, 4 times that and a new GMC Yukon Denali from Briggs auto may just make me think twice." - BV
Source: C++
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Post by: wetwillie on December 28, 2015, 06:18:16 PM
Post by: That_Guy on December 28, 2015, 06:39:13 PM
clemson has an incredibly dorky fanbase and if we take him their meltdown will be very fun to observe
But would it compare to our meltdown?
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Post by: manpow5 on December 28, 2015, 06:50:45 PM
clemson has an incredibly dorky fanbase and if we take him their meltdown will be very fun to observe
But would it compare to our meltdown?
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You mean the meltdown we'll have when they announce it's Sean?
Post by: chum1 on December 28, 2015, 06:55:22 PM
You mean the meltdown we'll have when they announce it's Sean?
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Post by: GoodForAnother on December 28, 2015, 07:16:13 PM
clemson has an incredibly dorky fanbase and if we take him their meltdown will be very fun to observe
But would it compare to our meltdown?
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it'd be close, we're pretty dorky too
Post by: slobber on December 28, 2015, 07:43:01 PM
clemson has an incredibly dorky fanbase and if we take him their meltdown will be very fun to observe#truth
This would probably be the best thing about it.
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Post by: Johnny Wichita on December 29, 2015, 12:03:06 PM
Venables says he turned down a chance to interview for a "good" Power Five job this year, and the last job he interviewed for was at Arkansas in 2012. Venables says he is unlikely to take a job outside a Power Five conference and he'll be particular going forward. (His $1.4 million salary certainly prices him out of a lot of jobs.) "I would never do what LHC Bill Snyder did and take a place like Kansas State," he says. "I don't want to do that. That's torture! I don't want to live like that. I want to wake up and feel good about what I'm doing and be very confident and passionate about what I'm doing."
Post by: deputy dawg on December 29, 2015, 12:54:14 PM
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2603128-will-gus-malzahn-be-on-hot-seat-if-auburn-loses-birmingham-bowl?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=college-football
Post by: HerrSonntag on December 29, 2015, 12:54:35 PM
Post by: CNS on December 29, 2015, 01:24:05 PM
http://www.campusrush.com/clemson-tigers-defense-brent-venables-1530744587.html
Venables says he turned down a chance to interview for a "good" Power Five job this year, and the last job he interviewed for was at Arkansas in 2012. Venables says he is unlikely to take a job outside a Power Five conference and he'll be particular going forward. (His $1.4 million salary certainly prices him out of a lot of jobs.) "I would never do what LHC Bill Snyder did and take a place like Kansas State," he says. "I don't want to do that. That's torture! I don't want to live like that. I want to wake up and feel good about what I'm doing and be very confident and passionate about what I'm doing."
He obviously meant he won't take over a loser and that he wants a job where things are already doing well.
Post by: troubledscribe on December 29, 2015, 01:36:01 PM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on December 29, 2015, 01:47:36 PM
:sdeek:
Post by: chum1 on December 29, 2015, 01:54:39 PM
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K-State head coach LHC Bill Snyder (Sean’s father) praised not only his son’s special teams work, but his global approach to benefitting the Wildcats’ football program: “If there’s anybody that would be here earlier in the morning or stay later at night, that would be (Sean). All of our coaches work extremely hard, but Sean’s got so much on his plate. Aside from dealing with the special teams, as he does with coordinating all of that, just virtually anything and everything that takes place — our interaction with the administration goes through Sean, our interaction with our strength development arena, our nutritional arena, with our medical aspect, with the equipment aspect, with our video aspect, game day operations that takes place — he handles all of that.”
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Post by: manpow5 on December 29, 2015, 02:12:12 PM
http://www.campusrush.com/clemson-tigers-defense-brent-venables-1530744587.html
Venables says he turned down a chance to interview for a "good" Power Five job this year, and the last job he interviewed for was at Arkansas in 2012. Venables says he is unlikely to take a job outside a Power Five conference and he'll be particular going forward. (His $1.4 million salary certainly prices him out of a lot of jobs.) "I would never do what LHC LHC Bill Snyder did and take a place like Kansas State," he says. "I don't want to do that. That's torture! I don't want to live like that. I want to wake up and feel good about what I'm doing and be very confident and passionate about what I'm doing."
He is trying so hard to make it look like he's not coming here. lol
Post by: BackPayne on December 29, 2015, 02:30:03 PM
Post by: slackcat on December 29, 2015, 02:36:25 PM
Any rumblings on the Clemson boards?
Believe he's staying.
Good ol' tightwad Bill:
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. Mike and Bob Stoops stumped for him to get the linebackers coach job, and Snyder reluctantly agreed after making Venables wait months for an answer. He finally hired Venables on an interim basis, paying him as a graduate assistant through the spring. When Snyder offered him a contract, it was for $33,000 per year. Mike Stoops was ticked that Snyder paid him so little, and when he walked down the hallway to confront Snyder about it, Venables stopped him. "NOOOOOOO!" he recalls screaming at Mike. "You're screwing this up for me!"
Post by: Panjandrum on December 29, 2015, 03:07:08 PM
Any rumblings on the Clemson boards?
Believe he's staying.
He is if we don't offer him a HC job in some capacity.
Post by: CNS on December 29, 2015, 03:56:53 PM
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Post by: star seed 7 on December 29, 2015, 05:05:48 PM
The admin communication goes through Sean because Snyder and Currie don't talk to each other.
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Thanks for clarifying that dax
Post by: TwobizE2P on December 29, 2015, 05:06:56 PM
Sounds like a head of football operations right out of centrlal casting.QuoteK-State head coach LHC LHC Bill Snyder (Sean’s father) praised not only his son’s special teams work, but his global approach to benefitting the Wildcats’ football program: “If there’s anybody that would be here earlier in the morning or stay later at night, that would be (Sean). All of our coaches work extremely hard, but Sean’s got so much on his plate. Aside from dealing with the special teams, as he does with coordinating all of that, just virtually anything and everything that takes place — our interaction with the administration goes through Sean, our interaction with our strength development arena, our nutritional arena, with our medical aspect, with the equipment aspect, with our video aspect, game day operations that takes place — he handles all of that.”
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Post by: KITNfury on December 29, 2015, 05:11:49 PM
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Post by: TwobizE2P on December 29, 2015, 05:18:36 PM
Might as well get use to it now(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.freejohnnydare.com%2Ffjd%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2012%2F08%2Fmichaelberryman.png&hash=2eabd11c6877779547264a7b952ff441965a7c03)
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He'll make a great DC.... :thumbsup:
Post by: manpow5 on December 29, 2015, 06:30:36 PM
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Post by: Trim on December 29, 2015, 08:33:40 PM
Based on three people I spoke with, who have previous ties to K-State and likely connections to Venables, none of them have heard such a rumor about BV coming back this offseason as HCIW.
How reliable are these sources? One I would think to be pretty well in tune with things, the other two I really can't say. Therefore, I'm not going to say there's absolutely no way and/or that this rumor is 100% false. Time will tell, but the men I interacted with sure acted surprised to hear the rumor because they hadn't heard a peep of anything related to BV.
Post by: sunny_cat on December 29, 2015, 08:42:36 PM
Post by: BackPayne on December 29, 2015, 08:58:37 PM
Post by: Big Sam on December 29, 2015, 09:57:24 PM
Someone mentioned GPC started this rumor and has a huge thread about it. What "lead" did they have yo get this going?
It doesn't require sourcing of any consequence. Not with the average poster on that site. Nor on most fan sites.
Post by: SkinnyBenny on December 30, 2015, 02:10:21 AM
Post by: wabash909 on December 30, 2015, 04:33:57 AM
Ok, so I did some digging over the holidays and unfortunately had to interrupt some family time to see if this rumor had legs.
Based on three people I spoke with, who have previous ties to K-State and likely connections to Venables, none of them have heard such a rumor about BV coming back this offseason as HCIW.
How reliable are these sources? One I would think to be pretty well in tune with things, the other two I really can't say. Therefore, I'm not going to say there's absolutely no way and/or that this rumor is 100% false. Time will tell, but the men I interacted with sure acted surprised to hear the rumor because they hadn't heard a peep of anything related to BV.
Oh man, Fitz had to take some holiday time off with family to investigate a story!l
:surprised:
Post by: sonofdaxjones on December 30, 2015, 08:30:06 AM
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on December 30, 2015, 09:11:23 AM
Post by: DOD Take 2 on December 30, 2015, 09:28:53 AM
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on December 30, 2015, 09:33:00 AM
Post by: Steffy08 on December 30, 2015, 09:52:55 AM
Ok, so I did some digging over the holidays and unfortunately had to interrupt some family time to see if this rumor had legs.
Based on three people I spoke with, who have previous ties to K-State and likely connections to Venables, none of them have heard such a rumor about BV coming back this offseason as HCIW.
How reliable are these sources? One I would think to be pretty well in tune with things, the other two I really can't say. Therefore, I'm not going to say there's absolutely no way and/or that this rumor is 100% false. Time will tell, but the men I interacted with sure acted surprised to hear the rumor because they hadn't heard a peep of anything related to BV.
Oh man, Fitz had to take some holiday time off with family to investigate a story!l
:surprised:
I don't get the weird Fitz hate on this cite, but I do think it is appropriate to note that there is not a chance in hell anybody connected to the situation would share information with Fitz. See "It's Patterson" (2008).
Post by: kslim on December 30, 2015, 09:55:00 AM
go back to gpc, please, im asking nicely.Ok, so I did some digging over the holidays and unfortunately had to interrupt some family time to see if this rumor had legs.
Based on three people I spoke with, who have previous ties to K-State and likely connections to Venables, none of them have heard such a rumor about BV coming back this offseason as HCIW.
How reliable are these sources? One I would think to be pretty well in tune with things, the other two I really can't say. Therefore, I'm not going to say there's absolutely no way and/or that this rumor is 100% false. Time will tell, but the men I interacted with sure acted surprised to hear the rumor because they hadn't heard a peep of anything related to BV.
Oh man, Fitz had to take some holiday time off with family to investigate a story!l
:surprised:
I don't get the weird Fitz hate on this cite, but I do think it is appropriate to note that there is not a chance in hell anybody connected to the situation would share information with Fitz. See "It's Patterson" (2008).
Post by: deputy dawg on December 30, 2015, 10:05:33 AM
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2603450-mike-leach-washington-state-agree-to-new-contract-latest-details-reaction?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=college-football
Post by: Dugout DickStone on December 30, 2015, 10:19:33 AM
Post by: Trim on December 30, 2015, 10:21:56 AM
Post by: SEK_EMAW on December 30, 2015, 11:03:11 AM
Me: You investigated that Venables rumor?
Him: Yep not gonna happen
Take that FWIW...I say not much.
Post by: meow meow on December 30, 2015, 11:05:47 AM
Text convo with a buddy who is with the team in Memphis (he would not be super insidery):
Me: You investigated that Venables rumor?
Him: Yep not gonna happen
Take that FWIW...I say not much.
also have a friend that's always with the team, told him several weeks ago I wanted Venables, basically said the same thing, that it wasn't going to happen.
so either, there is already some sort of plan being laid out for someone else, or they were all instructed to say the same thing when asked about Venables :excited:
Post by: CNS on December 30, 2015, 11:06:55 AM
Post by: Emo EMAW on December 30, 2015, 11:08:46 AM
Post by: troubledscribe on December 30, 2015, 11:16:08 AM
Who do we string up by their toes when this doesn't happen?
It isn't happening.
Post by: BackPayne on December 30, 2015, 11:23:22 AM
Post by: CNS on December 30, 2015, 11:41:37 AM
Post by: GoodForAnother on December 30, 2015, 12:03:50 PM
Ok, so I did some digging over the holidays and unfortunately had to interrupt some family time to see if this rumor had legs.
Based on three people I spoke with, who have previous ties to K-State and likely connections to Venables, none of them have heard such a rumor about BV coming back this offseason as HCIW.
How reliable are these sources? One I would think to be pretty well in tune with things, the other two I really can't say. Therefore, I'm not going to say there's absolutely no way and/or that this rumor is 100% false. Time will tell, but the men I interacted with sure acted surprised to hear the rumor because they hadn't heard a peep of anything related to BV.
Thanks for sacrificing your time with the family to check on this for us Trim
Post by: Trim on December 30, 2015, 12:10:27 PM
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Post by: SEK_EMAW on December 30, 2015, 01:22:25 PM
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Post by: CNS on December 30, 2015, 01:29:01 PM
Post by: #LIFE on December 30, 2015, 01:42:50 PM
One more strike and the Snyder Family will get a chance for the steal.
This is well done :thumbs:
Post by: SEK_EMAW on December 30, 2015, 01:56:38 PM
Post by: That_Guy on December 31, 2015, 01:21:11 AM
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Post by: bones129 on December 31, 2015, 01:36:56 AM
We want Clemson to lose today, right? To get things going with Venables all the sooner.
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Yes.
Post by: bones129 on December 31, 2015, 01:44:17 AM
Of course, that assumes Brent may be coming. A loss to the Sooners doesn't guarantee it. All said, I don't think he's headed for KSU, which makes me sad.We want Clemson to lose today, right? To get things going with Venables all the sooner.
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Yes.
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Post by: MakeItRain on December 31, 2015, 07:34:58 AM
https://youtu.be/Q0uUVgQ0FPo
Post by: deputy dawg on December 31, 2015, 08:05:24 AM
Post by: Katpappy on December 31, 2015, 08:32:46 AM
Wait, Venables to KSU? Isn't that like Harbaugh to KU? Is it the plane on the tarmac again?Wait, at what time does this appear?
Post by: Yard Dog on December 31, 2015, 09:01:26 AM
While watching this amazing video, look above the doorways
https://youtu.be/Q0uUVgQ0FPo
The acronym apparently stands for "Forget About Me I Love You". . . .No thanks.
Post by: MeatSauce on December 31, 2015, 09:26:54 AM
While watching this amazing video, look above the doorwayshttps://soundcloud.com/thesportsrekap/pjf
https://youtu.be/Q0uUVgQ0FPo
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Post by: Cire on December 31, 2015, 10:20:08 AM
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Post by: Yard Dog on December 31, 2015, 10:25:03 AM
Do you think he'll wear a visor or a hat?. Or sans head wear?
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As part of his contract he will be required to wear an out of date windbreaker and nike cortez sneakers as well as having to use a wired headset. No word yet on old man glasses or hat requirements.
Post by: slackcat on December 31, 2015, 10:33:34 AM
Post by: Yard Dog on December 31, 2015, 10:39:05 AM
Will he get a neek?
Yes, though his neek will be selected by the AD and will report back to the AD everything he does.
Post by: CatsNShocks on December 31, 2015, 11:21:54 AM
Post by: BackPayne on December 31, 2015, 11:42:28 AM
Post by: TopCat on December 31, 2015, 11:50:43 AM
Ok, so I did some digging over the holidays and unfortunately had to interrupt some family time to see if this rumor had legs.Sounds like a total Wallace move.
Based on three people I spoke with, who have previous ties to K-State and likely connections to Venables, none of them have heard such a rumor about BV coming back this offseason as HCIW.
How reliable are these sources? One I would think to be pretty well in tune with things, the other two I really can't say. Therefore, I'm not going to say there's absolutely no way and/or that this rumor is 100% false. Time will tell, but the men I interacted with sure acted surprised to hear the rumor because they hadn't heard a peep of anything related to BV.
Post by: Trim on December 31, 2015, 12:01:18 PM
Post by: manpow5 on December 31, 2015, 12:47:45 PM
While watching this amazing video, look above the doorways
https://youtu.be/Q0uUVgQ0FPo
Sooo... Who is that coach and could he be a DITR?? Seems like a total 5 heart kind of guy! :ksu:
Post by: catastrophe on December 31, 2015, 01:21:51 PM
Post by: Gooch on December 31, 2015, 01:22:46 PM
Post by: Panjandrum on December 31, 2015, 02:00:42 PM
There is a weird amount of negative attitude right now over a rumored failure to fill a position that has yet to be vacated.
Nothing has changed from what I've heard. And from what I've heard, people who would be in a position to know are being tight lipped.
We weren't going to hear a damn thing until after Clemson got done anyway. Maybe not until after signing day.
Does anyone think that maybe, just maybe, if there were news on something like this with a coach in the playoffs, we'd put a gag order on it because the second Tim Fitzgerald or his band of dipshits finds out about it, it's all over the front page of GoPowercat.com? Because the last time that happened, it worked out really well.
Post by: Gooch on December 31, 2015, 02:16:14 PM
Post by: mocat on December 31, 2015, 02:36:39 PM
Kind of glad at this point Patterson got Fitz'd up. :Yuck: the though of sweaty Gary constantly pulling at his waist band on the KSU sideline. No thanks.
:lol:
Post by: That_Guy on December 31, 2015, 02:37:02 PM
There is a weird amount of negative attitude right now over a rumored failure to fill a position that has yet to be vacated.
Nothing has changed from what I've heard. And from what I've heard, people who would be in a position to know are being tight lipped.
We weren't going to hear a damn thing until after Clemson got done anyway. Maybe not until after signing day.
Does anyone think that maybe, just maybe, if there were news on something like this with a coach in the playoffs, we'd put a gag order on it because the second Tim Fitzgerald or his band of dipshits finds out about it, it's all over the front page of GoPowercat.com? Because the last time that happened, it worked out really well.
Not going to get my hopes up, but this does make sense.
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Post by: michigancat on December 31, 2015, 02:53:25 PM
Nothing is happening because Bill isn't retiring.
Post by: pissclams on December 31, 2015, 02:56:23 PM
Alabama's DC was hired as Georgia's coach because no one waits until after bowl games to announce coaching changes.true but never underestimate HCIW deals
Nothing is happening because Bill isn't retiring.
Post by: Panjandrum on December 31, 2015, 03:16:43 PM
Alabama's DC was hired as Georgia's coach because no one waits until after bowl games to announce coaching changes.
Nothing is happening because Bill isn't retiring.
Brent and Dabo are very tight. If something were to happen, I doubt that Brent would make anything public before the playoffs are over. They wouldn't want the distraction.
And we've established that Bill isn't retiring this year, and if Brent comes, it's as HCIW or whatever it will be. Georgia had a true vacancy. We won't.
Post by: michigancat on December 31, 2015, 03:18:04 PM
Post by: Panjandrum on December 31, 2015, 03:22:42 PM
To be honest, we haven't established crap
Okay, if Bill retires this year, it will be a pretty big surprise since he said he's coming back in Bill-speak.
Post by: Panjandrum on December 31, 2015, 03:28:23 PM
Post by: Gooch on December 31, 2015, 03:29:27 PM
Post by: Panjandrum on December 31, 2015, 03:42:10 PM
I'm guessing there is a #family fued
Yeah, but the placement of strikes and steals has been really well done. He did good work.
Post by: catzacker on December 31, 2015, 03:44:11 PM
Alabama's DC was hired as Georgia's coach because no one waits until after bowl games to announce coaching changes.
Nothing is happening because Bill isn't retiring.
I agree with this. But assuming these elaborate plots are in the works is kind of fun. It's like a Tom Clancy football novel. The Sum of All EMAWS.
Post by: Trim on December 31, 2015, 03:44:40 PM
Post by: Panjandrum on December 31, 2015, 04:06:55 PM
Panj, if you couldn't decipher my posts as nothing more than me declaring that the first 2 guesses at who actually made my ridiculous "had to ditch family time to check the rumors and they're either right or they're wrong" post were incorrect, and that the 3rd guess was correct, you might want to take a step back from the hciw detective business and regroup. This whole thing is getting to you.
Eh, I'm on vacation and I'm bored. Also haven't been sleeping much the last couple of months, so okay. Good to know.
Post by: wetwillie on December 31, 2015, 04:12:30 PM
Post by: Demo158 on December 31, 2015, 04:40:07 PM
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Post by: DOD Take 2 on December 31, 2015, 04:52:33 PM
http://www.campusrush.com/-tigers-defense-brent-venables-1530744587.html
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The key piece for those who don't want to read it:
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When Venables left Kansas State to join Stoops at Oklahoma for the 1999 season, he heard criticism, especially after Kansas State lost the 1998 Big 12 title game in double overtime to Texas A&M. It still bothers him and he promised to never replicate that feeling. "I always felt very disappointed that people associated me with looking at another job while I had a job and that affected my job," he says. "I know it didn't in my heart of hearts. I live with that still. [People saying] there was a lack of loyalty or whatever."
Post by: illBisonYourdele on December 31, 2015, 05:21:00 PM
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Venables's edge comes from starting life as an underdog. He was the youngest of three boys, which he jokes left him facing "social Darwinism" every day.
Belongs in Kansas.
Post by: MakeItRain on December 31, 2015, 05:31:35 PM
No thanks.
All the validation I needed for my man P.J.
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Post by: Pete on January 01, 2016, 06:18:17 AM
http://www.campusrush.com/-tigers-defense-brent-venables-1530744587.html
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The key piece for those who don't want to read it:QuoteWhen Venables left Kansas State to join Stoops at Oklahoma for the 1999 season, he heard criticism, especially after Kansas State lost the 1998 Big 12 title game in double overtime to Texas A&M. It still bothers him and he promised to never replicate that feeling. "I always felt very disappointed that people associated me with looking at another job while I had a job and that affected my job," he says. "I know it didn't in my heart of hearts. I live with that still. [People saying] there was a lack of loyalty or whatever."
FWIW, I choose to believe this. It doesn't mean he's coming, but I believe he believes this, and I believe Bill would be on the same page on this matter.
Post by: Pete on January 01, 2016, 06:19:53 AM
Post by: slackcat on January 01, 2016, 07:02:55 AM
Bill is probably being all self righteous about it too. "see, you don't HAVE to take coaches in the middle of a title run, they can come later."
Just to prove everyone wrong.
Srsly given up on the BV dream and settled on the assumption that the same gang will be back next year. Truly the K-State way.
Post by: chum1 on January 01, 2016, 07:52:25 AM
Post by: Panjandrum on January 01, 2016, 09:29:47 AM
Bill is probably being all self righteous about it too. "see, you don't HAVE to take coaches in the middle of a title run, they can come later."
Just to prove everyone wrong.
Srsly given up on the BV dream and settled on the assumption that the same gang will be back next year. Truly the K-State way.
To be honest, what I've heard was that BV would come after Bill retires. The HCIW thing is new. Both have pros and cons.
I'm not gonna get bent out of shape if he doesn't come this year. I didn't expect him to based on what I was told. That rumor was just a pleasant surprise.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on January 01, 2016, 10:47:23 AM
BTW John Currie is set to announce the installation of the finest vanilla soft serve machines on the market in every concession stand. This will allow easier access to a tasty item that matches KState athletics current trajectory.
#family #worldclassstudentathleteexperience #letsnottalkwinsandlosses.
Post by: DQ12 on January 01, 2016, 11:30:49 AM
I'm going to love having Ron Prince 2.0 in a couple of years while Patterson and Venables are still out there kicking major ass.Ron did inspire some of the greatest K-State art ever.
Post by: slackcat on January 01, 2016, 11:31:25 AM
Post by: TwobizE2P on January 01, 2016, 12:05:31 PM
Guys come on, deflecting overall lack of success with constant repetition of marketing slogans and mission statements is vastly more interesting then this fantasy land nonsense.
BTW John Currie is set to announce the installation of the finest vanilla soft serve machines on the market in every concession stand. This will allow easier access to a tasty item that matches KState athletics current trajectory.
#family #worldclassstudentathleteexperience #letsnottalkwinsandlosses.
Would take... :party:
I actually believe Currie would like nothing more than to hire BV this year. He's spent nearly $200M on spiffing up BSFS, and on an accelerated timeline to boot, to attract a high level or prospective high level HC. The last thing he wants to do is an annual "maybe I will maybe I won't" retirement dance with the Legend.
Doing so risks the faculty upgrade advantage we currently have against a good number of schools. Unfortunately, it appears this is a three not a two person negotiation process, making it much more complex and improbable you can find something that works for everyone.
If indeed the status quo is maintained next year, we will likely see another retirement exit that will have been poorly done and sub-optimized.
Post by: Dugout DickStone on January 01, 2016, 12:46:30 PM
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Post by: TwobizE2P on January 01, 2016, 02:31:50 PM
Currie would hire BV. His search firm buddy will be super mad he can't get $75k for recommending the 5th best guy on their board.
Yeah, but the super slueth recruiting firm will keep the retainer and get a new tombstone lucite for the conference room. They'll call it a win and wait for the next JC call.
Post by: wetwillie on January 01, 2016, 02:33:11 PM
Kellis says Snyder will return in 2016
Nice scoop
Post by: TwobizE2P on January 01, 2016, 02:49:54 PM
Kellis says Snyder will return in 2016
Nice scoop
I heard the same presser Kelliis did and there was nothing different said than what Bill's been saying the last six weeks. Has no newi plans for the future but will sit down with his family after the season and evaluate at that point. May be back but there's still a small hedge there.
Kellis certainly wouldn't be the guy Bill would let break this story.
Post by: Trim on January 01, 2016, 09:37:27 PM
Post by: slobber on January 01, 2016, 09:38:51 PM
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Post by: Gooch on January 01, 2016, 09:46:51 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on January 01, 2016, 10:02:24 PM
Those tits don't look big enough to snort lines off of.
ltbiq
Post by: Katpappy on January 01, 2016, 10:19:23 PM
Those tits don't look big enough to snort lines off of.
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What tits!? Doesn't matter, he'll just snort lines off the cheeks of her ass. It shouldn't bother him, since his olfactory glands are fried.
Post by: Trim on January 01, 2016, 10:27:37 PM
Post by: wetwillie on January 01, 2016, 11:41:32 PM
Post by: GoodForAnother on January 02, 2016, 12:36:38 AM
Post by: MakeItRain on January 02, 2016, 11:41:19 PM
Sad that it took me this long to realize who she is
I had to look her up, not what I pictured her looking like.
Post by: 'taterblast on January 04, 2016, 04:31:17 PM
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Post by: Tobias on January 04, 2016, 05:36:37 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on January 04, 2016, 05:43:04 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on January 04, 2016, 09:22:56 PM
who is it?
It's Mary Pat Catherine Elizabeth Suzanne Renee Currie
Post by: Trim on January 04, 2016, 11:27:23 PM
https://twitter.com/kstate_1stlady/status/683108825390419968
https://twitter.com/kstate_1stlady/status/683122931174522881
Post by: sonofdaxjones on January 04, 2016, 11:34:23 PM
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Post by: Tobias on January 05, 2016, 12:16:11 PM
when trim gets arrested for throwing a sandwich at a cop while riding his hoverboard, we'll know that we've come full circle
it's @TrimGoPowercat
Post by: star seed 7 on January 05, 2016, 12:23:32 PM
when trim gets arrested for throwing a sandwich at a cop while riding his hoverboard, we'll know that we've come full circle
it's @TrimGoPowercat
Is trim the gpc equivalent of nsaa?
Post by: mocat on January 05, 2016, 01:05:50 PM
Post by: Trim on January 05, 2016, 01:26:03 PM
why would you ever 'shop Mrs Animal out of a photograph?
Fine. :don'tcare:
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi709.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fww92%2FTommyRoanoke%2Fnoel%2520venables_zpslq61vxik.jpg&hash=36f1830c22b97cd7daffc034cf0eed0f0f1a0c19) (http://s709.photobucket.com/user/TommyRoanoke/media/noel%20venables_zpslq61vxik.jpg.html)
Post by: mocat on January 05, 2016, 01:58:41 PM
Post by: ednksu on January 05, 2016, 04:38:27 PM
Post by: wetwillie on January 05, 2016, 05:09:09 PM
Post by: HELLHAMMER on January 07, 2016, 12:32:37 PM
Post by: pissclams on January 07, 2016, 12:53:17 PM
I received confirmation from a former stud Cats player from the late 90's that the team despised Sean back then. The team loved the crap out of BV though but he sees no scenario where he's the next coach. Take it for what it's worth.i'll take it for being worth nothing
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on January 07, 2016, 12:54:21 PM
Post by: ednksu on January 07, 2016, 01:50:12 PM
but seriously doe....when we gonna see some moves people?
Post by: manpow5 on January 07, 2016, 02:11:01 PM
if we're all diamonds in the rough and junk, why don't we find some ditr coordinators who try *really* hard
but seriously doe....when we gonna see some moves people?
After the Dr. Pepper Game.
Post by: That_Guy on January 07, 2016, 05:40:43 PM
if we're all diamonds in the rough and junk, why don't we find some ditr coordinators who try *really* hard
but seriously doe....when we gonna see some moves people?
After the Dr. Pepper Game.
This
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Post by: bones129 on January 07, 2016, 06:09:59 PM
Post by: dmartin on January 11, 2016, 09:03:51 AM
Post by: everyone shut up on January 11, 2016, 09:50:42 AM
Post by: 'taterblast on January 11, 2016, 10:03:41 AM
Post by: GoodForAnother on January 11, 2016, 10:11:21 AM
have heard conflicting reports on this.
booo
Post by: CNS on January 11, 2016, 10:33:31 AM
Post by: Asteriskhead on January 11, 2016, 01:14:50 PM
have heard conflicting reports on this.
:frown:
Post by: 'taterblast on January 11, 2016, 01:32:40 PM
https://twitter.com/kstatesports/status/686631571055456256
Post by: 'taterblast on January 11, 2016, 01:45:25 PM
Post by: Jabeez on January 11, 2016, 01:46:33 PM
confirms what i heard late last week
https://twitter.com/kstatesports/status/686631571055456256
So the question is, did you hear something good, or just the song remains the same because bill wants sean?
Post by: 'taterblast on January 11, 2016, 01:49:26 PM
Post by: everyone shut up on January 11, 2016, 01:56:16 PM
there was talk of him not returning in 2016, but then it turned into he confirmed with Currie last week that he was returningbill's a great coach and i love him. but i hope he's coming back because he still enjoys coaching. if he's just a figurehead, lets move on. i want the guy to enjoy his life/retirement.
Post by: Jabeez on January 11, 2016, 01:57:10 PM
there was talk of him not returning in 2016, but then it turned into he confirmed with Currie last week that he was returning:thumbsup: :bawl: :facepalm:
Post by: 'taterblast on January 11, 2016, 02:01:00 PM
there was talk of him not returning in 2016, but then it turned into he confirmed with Currie last week that he was returningbill's a great coach and i love him. but i hope he's coming back because he still enjoys coaching. if he's just a figurehead, lets move on. i want the guy to enjoy his life/retirement.
he probably delegates more than the average head coach, but he's certainly more than a figurehead
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Post by: kso_FAN on January 11, 2016, 02:21:47 PM
I personally have no problem with Bill coming back, he deserves his shot at 200
This. I think we'll be better this year too. More options on offense and hopefully a better QB situation with better health. Defense can't get worse.
Post by: CNS on January 11, 2016, 02:32:32 PM
there was talk of him not returning in 2016, but then it turned into he confirmed with Currie last week that he was returningbill's a great coach and i love him. but i hope he's coming back because he still enjoys coaching. if he's just a figurehead, lets move on. i want the guy to enjoy his life/retirement.
he probably delegates more than the average head coach, but he's certainly more than a figurehead
@stevedave get in here!
Post by: scottwildcat on January 11, 2016, 02:56:20 PM
doesn't Hayes want to retire super badly?
Hopefully
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Post by: Winters on January 11, 2016, 04:14:37 PM
doesn't Hayes want to retire super badly?He wants to make chicken fingers again
Post by: Canary on January 11, 2016, 04:37:53 PM
I agree he deserves his shot at 200. I just think the team has to improve a bunch between now and next fall. This season was difficult to sit through.I personally have no problem with Bill coming back, he deserves his shot at 200
This. I think we'll be better this year too. More options on offense and hopefully a better QB situation with better health. Defense can't get worse.
Post by: SkinnyBenny on January 11, 2016, 04:39:09 PM
Post by: CNS on January 11, 2016, 04:48:34 PM
Post by: 'taterblast on January 11, 2016, 04:51:16 PM
Quote from: goose on gpc
Update: Venables rumor.....source sticking to his story
Serious talks to bring in BV as HCIW this season, but he wants to pick his own staff.
Says 3 to 4 coaches may retire or move on....the ones you would expect...Miller, Mo, Hayes & possibly 1 more.
Info from this morning.....take it for what it's worth
Post by: Canary on January 11, 2016, 04:53:05 PM
I'd really love this to happen.Quote from: goose on gpcUpdate: Venables rumor.....source sticking to his story
Serious talks to bring in BV as HCIW this season, but he wants to pick his own staff.
Says 3 to 4 coaches may retire or move on....the ones you would expect...Miller, Mo, Hayes & possibly 1 more.
Info from this morning.....take it for what it's worth
Post by: SkinnyBenny on January 11, 2016, 05:00:23 PM
Post by: Gooch on January 11, 2016, 05:00:30 PM
If this was even remotely true...... LET HIM PICK HIS OWN rough ridin' STAFF!!!!!!!!!Quote from: goose on gpcUpdate: Venables rumor.....source sticking to his story
Serious talks to bring in BV as HCIW this season, but he wants to pick his own staff.
Says 3 to 4 coaches may retire or move on....the ones you would expect...Miller, Mo, Hayes & possibly 1 more.
Info from this morning.....take it for what it's worth
Post by: Trim on January 11, 2016, 05:09:39 PM
http://www.bucsnation.com/2016/1/11/10742192/tampa-defensive-coordinator-candidates
Post by: CNS on January 11, 2016, 05:10:20 PM
Post by: GoodForAnother on January 11, 2016, 05:41:19 PM
Quote from: goose on gpcUpdate: Venables rumor.....source sticking to his story
Serious talks to bring in BV as HCIW this season, but he wants to pick his own staff.
Says 3 to 4 coaches may retire or move on....the ones you would expect...Miller, Mo, Hayes & possibly 1 more.
Info from this morning.....take it for what it's worth
Neat
Post by: sonofdaxjones on January 11, 2016, 06:19:40 PM
Post by: troubledscribe on January 11, 2016, 06:32:43 PM
Post by: DOD Take 2 on January 11, 2016, 07:05:31 PM
Quote from: goose on gpcUpdate: Venables rumor.....source sticking to his story
Serious talks to bring in BV as HCIW this season, but he wants to pick his own staff.
Says 3 to 4 coaches may retire or move on....the ones you would expect...Miller, Mo, Hayes & possibly 1 more.
Info from this morning.....take it for what it's worth
Neat
#selfbrag - I got a ticket to the game tonight. Do I bring the chest of riches with me into the game to present on-field post game or do I wait and have it in the trunk of my car to show him in the parking lot all shady like?
Post by: sonofdaxjones on January 11, 2016, 07:12:14 PM
Post by: manpow5 on January 11, 2016, 07:18:12 PM
Post by: bucket on January 11, 2016, 07:24:49 PM
Quote from: goose on gpcUpdate: Venables rumor.....source sticking to his story
Serious talks to bring in BV as HCIW this season, but he wants to pick his own staff.
Says 3 to 4 coaches may retire or move on....the ones you would expect...Miller, Mo, Hayes & possibly 1 more.
Info from this morning.....take it for what it's worth
Neat
#selfbrag - I got a ticket to the game tonight. Do I bring the chest of riches with me into the game to present on-field post game or do I wait and have it in the trunk of my car to show him in the parking lot all shady like?
You're going to miss kickoff
Post by: slobber on January 11, 2016, 07:48:06 PM
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Post by: pvegs on January 11, 2016, 09:24:36 PM
Quote from: bornloopers on gpc
I've been told that the biggest issue handcuffing the situation is Bill's continued uncertainty. He finally publicly announced that he is returning for this upcoming season - but he has yet to convey to anyone (including those in the athletic department) that it will indeed be his final season. From everything I've gathered, BV is wary of the HCIW tag and would only be interested if he was granted the privilege of choosing the majority of the staff and would only be required to serve under Bill for one season before taking the helm.
As it sits right now, I would place the chance of this scenario materializing at around 10-20%.
this seems like exceedingly believable
Post by: Trim on January 11, 2016, 09:26:36 PM
Post by: TheTruth on January 11, 2016, 09:26:59 PM
Quote from: bornloopers on gpcI've been told that the biggest issue handcuffing the situation is Bill's continued uncertainty. He finally publicly announced that he is returning for this upcoming season - but he has yet to convey to anyone (including those in the athletic department) that it will indeed be his final season. From everything I've gathered, BV is wary of the HCIW tag and would only be interested if he was granted the privilege of choosing the majority of the staff and would only be required to serve under Bill for one season before taking the helm.
As it sits right now, I would place the chance of this scenario materializing at around 10-20%.
this seems like exceedingly believable
Yep. And Snyder will probably eff it all up.
Post by: Woogy on January 11, 2016, 09:50:07 PM
Post by: KCFDcat on January 11, 2016, 09:57:40 PM
This makes me very sad and frustrated and angry.Quote from: bornloopers on gpcI've been told that the biggest issue handcuffing the situation is Bill's continued uncertainty. He finally publicly announced that he is returning for this upcoming season - but he has yet to convey to anyone (including those in the athletic department) that it will indeed be his final season. From everything I've gathered, BV is wary of the HCIW tag and would only be interested if he was granted the privilege of choosing the majority of the staff and would only be required to serve under Bill for one season before taking the helm.
As it sits right now, I would place the chance of this scenario materializing at around 10-20%.
this seems like exceedingly believable
Post by: bucket on January 11, 2016, 10:02:25 PM
This makes me very sad and frustrated and angry.Quote from: bornloopers on gpcI've been told that the biggest issue handcuffing the situation is Bill's continued uncertainty. He finally publicly announced that he is returning for this upcoming season - but he has yet to convey to anyone (including those in the athletic department) that it will indeed be his final season. From everything I've gathered, BV is wary of the HCIW tag and would only be interested if he was granted the privilege of choosing the majority of the staff and would only be required to serve under Bill for one season before taking the helm.
As it sits right now, I would place the chance of this scenario materializing at around 10-20%.
this seems like exceedingly believable
If BV is, indeed, talking to the AD about a HCIW position then Bill has laid out his exit strategy. BV wouldn't waste a breath with this school otherwise. This is obvious BS, not to bother contemplating about, from pvegs and whatever GP loser he's referencing.
Post by: KCFDcat on January 11, 2016, 10:03:53 PM
Reading this makes me happier.This makes me very sad and frustrated and angry.Quote from: bornloopers on gpcI've been told that the biggest issue handcuffing the situation is Bill's continued uncertainty. He finally publicly announced that he is returning for this upcoming season - but he has yet to convey to anyone (including those in the athletic department) that it will indeed be his final season. From everything I've gathered, BV is wary of the HCIW tag and would only be interested if he was granted the privilege of choosing the majority of the staff and would only be required to serve under Bill for one season before taking the helm.
As it sits right now, I would place the chance of this scenario materializing at around 10-20%.
this seems like exceedingly believable
If BV is, indeed, talking to the AD about a HCIW position then Bill has laid out his exit strategy. BV wouldn't waste a breath with this school otherwise. This is obvious BS, not to bother contemplating about, from pvegs and whatever GP loser he's referencing.
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on January 11, 2016, 10:09:33 PM
If this was even remotely true...... LET HIM PICK HIS OWN rough ridin' STAFF!!!!!!!!!Quote from: goose on gpcUpdate: Venables rumor.....source sticking to his story
Serious talks to bring in BV as HCIW this season, but he wants to pick his own staff.
Says 3 to 4 coaches may retire or move on....the ones you would expect...Miller, Mo, Hayes & possibly 1 more.
Info from this morning.....take it for what it's worth
You seriously think the head coach wouldn't be able to pick his own staff?
Post by: CNS on January 11, 2016, 10:15:50 PM
Post by: muqluk on January 11, 2016, 10:17:31 PM
Post by: OK_Cat on January 11, 2016, 10:19:42 PM
Post by: muqluk on January 11, 2016, 10:21:20 PM
You're an idiot if you think that there was ever a chance that bill would quit. He needs the attention, badly.
Who said anything about BS quitting?
Post by: OK_Cat on January 11, 2016, 10:23:03 PM
You're an idiot if you think that there was ever a chance that bill would quit. He needs the attention, badly.
Who said anything about BS quitting?
There has never been a replacement plan because he's not leaving, idiot
Post by: muqluk on January 11, 2016, 10:24:50 PM
Go wash your rat, you clearly got sand in itYou're an idiot if you think that there was ever a chance that bill would quit. He needs the attention, badly.Who said anything about BS quitting?
There has never been a replacement plan because he's not leaving, idiot
Post by: Trim on January 11, 2016, 10:25:23 PM
Quote
While 4-9 is nothing to write home about, their defense did show marked improvement this past season: for the first time since 2006 the Buffaloes defense didn't yield 50 points to an opponent and Leavitt had them much better organized in terms of coverage cutting down on explosive plays.
:ksu:
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Post by: pvegs on January 11, 2016, 10:41:00 PM
This makes me very sad and frustrated and angry.Quote from: bornloopers on gpcI've been told that the biggest issue handcuffing the situation is Bill's continued uncertainty. He finally publicly announced that he is returning for this upcoming season - but he has yet to convey to anyone (including those in the athletic department) that it will indeed be his final season. From everything I've gathered, BV is wary of the HCIW tag and would only be interested if he was granted the privilege of choosing the majority of the staff and would only be required to serve under Bill for one season before taking the helm.
As it sits right now, I would place the chance of this scenario materializing at around 10-20%.
this seems like exceedingly believable
If BV is, indeed, talking to the AD about a HCIW position then Bill has laid out his exit strategy. BV wouldn't waste a breath with this school otherwise. This is obvious BS, not to bother contemplating about, from pvegs and whatever GP loser he's referencing.
i was more saying the part abt bill holding the ad and program hostage by refusing to come up with and commit to an exit strategy feels spot on
Post by: ew2x4 on January 11, 2016, 11:13:00 PM
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Post by: DOD Take 2 on January 12, 2016, 02:22:35 AM
Quote from: goose on gpcUpdate: Venables rumor.....source sticking to his story
Serious talks to bring in BV as HCIW this season, but he wants to pick his own staff.
Says 3 to 4 coaches may retire or move on....the ones you would expect...Miller, Mo, Hayes & possibly 1 more.
Info from this morning.....take it for what it's worth
Neat
#selfbrag - I got a ticket to the game tonight. Do I bring the chest of riches with me into the game to present on-field post game or do I wait and have it in the trunk of my car to show him in the parking lot all shady like?
You're going to miss kickoff
Barely made it in time for the anthem
Post by: DOD Take 2 on January 12, 2016, 02:24:46 AM
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Post by: michigancat on January 12, 2016, 08:15:58 AM
QuoteWhile 4-9 is nothing to write home about, their defense did show marked improvement this past season: for the first time since 2006 the Buffaloes defense didn't yield 50 points to an opponent and Leavitt had them much better organized in terms of coverage cutting down on explosive plays.
:ksu:
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 12, 2016, 08:18:40 AM
Post by: WildcatNkilt on January 12, 2016, 08:24:24 AM
BV got sliced and diced last night. :frown:
Thats what happens when a person day dreams about a future Manhattan mansion.
Post by: Aggievillian on January 12, 2016, 08:28:57 AM
BV got sliced and diced last night. :frown:
Thats what happens when a person day dreams about a future Manhattan mansion.
Pretty sure the story was that we got sliced and diced back when he was 1 foot out the door on us...Which can only mean one thing! :lynchmob: :ksu: :emawkid:
Post by: TownieCat on January 12, 2016, 09:03:00 AM
BV got sliced and diced last night. :frown:
BV had nothing to do with the special teams issues (blocked FG, onside kick, KOR TD) that were the difference in the game.
Post by: catastrophe on January 12, 2016, 09:19:05 AM
Post by: Dugout DickStone on January 12, 2016, 09:24:04 AM
BV got sliced and diced last night. :frown:
Thats what happens when a person day dreams about a future Manhattan mansion.
One camera angle caught him basically writing down his dream order for So Long, scratching it out and writing down a different one, scratching that out etc.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 12, 2016, 09:29:08 AM
Well, Alabama did miss a FG and Alabama scored in two plays after the onside kick, so i'm sure he was daydreaming about mhk.BV got sliced and diced last night. :frown:
BV had nothing to do with the special teams issues (blocked FG, onside kick, KOR TD) that were the difference in the game.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on January 12, 2016, 10:59:29 AM
It also didn't help that Clemson by the middle of the game was down another key defensive player and was missing two right from the opening kickoff.
Post by: Cire on January 12, 2016, 11:37:53 AM
Post by: DOD Take 2 on January 12, 2016, 11:58:49 AM
Post by: ew2x4 on January 12, 2016, 12:04:25 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on January 12, 2016, 12:05:27 PM
Well, they lost by 5 to the greatest dynasty ever that needed trickery in the national championship game. I think I'd take it.
Loser
Post by: ew2x4 on January 12, 2016, 02:17:39 PM
Post by: Trim on January 12, 2016, 02:31:37 PM
Well, BV wouldn't 55-0.
Neither would JL!
QuoteWhile 4-9 is nothing to write home about, their defense did show marked improvement this past season: for the first time since 2006 the Buffaloes defense didn't yield 50 points to an opponent and Leavitt had them much better organized in terms of coverage cutting down on explosive plays.
:ksu:
Post by: ew2x4 on January 12, 2016, 02:44:04 PM
Well, BV wouldn't 55-0.
Neither would JL!QuoteWhile 4-9 is nothing to write home about, their defense did show marked improvement this past season: for the first time since 2006 the Buffaloes defense didn't yield 50 points to an opponent and Leavitt had them much better organized in terms of coverage cutting down on explosive plays.
:ksu:
Fuckin-a.
Post by: kslim on January 12, 2016, 02:46:06 PM
Well, BV wouldn't 55-0.
Neither would JL!QuoteWhile 4-9 is nothing to write home about, their defense did show marked improvement this past season: for the first time since 2006 the Buffaloes defense didn't yield 50 points to an opponent and Leavitt had them much better organized in terms of coverage cutting down on explosive plays.
:ksu:
:ROFL:
Post by: CHONGS on January 12, 2016, 02:48:36 PM
Post by: TheHamburglar on January 12, 2016, 03:21:49 PM
Post by: Trim on January 12, 2016, 03:45:07 PM
On a sad note, JL's father just passed away.
On a positive note, Bill just might make an excellent mentor and replacement father figure for somebody in a HCIW situation. #family
Post by: ew2x4 on January 12, 2016, 07:06:24 PM
The dichotomy between the fans who are ecstatic about JL at HCIW and the fans who are horrified will be very interesting. This will be even more pronounced than the Weber hire.
I honestly don't know where I'd land, but I know it would be either ecstatic or horrified for sure.
Post by: pissclams on January 12, 2016, 07:18:07 PM
truth be told, we should all be hoping that tom hayes sticks around for another go 'round. i feel like we're on the edge of turning our defensive woes around and his experience is invaluable
Post by: Aggievillian on January 12, 2016, 07:25:41 PM
i love it when fans use the word "horrified" on a sports message board
truth be told, we should all be hoping that tom hayes sticks around for another go 'round. i feel like we're on the edge of turning our defensive woes around and his experience is invaluable
:'bye cruel world:
Post by: wetwillie on January 12, 2016, 07:25:56 PM
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Post by: BackPayne on January 12, 2016, 08:04:14 PM
What we need to do is keep all our coaches, kick half the kids off the team, recruit whoeves, then tell everyone how young we are and stuff all next year.
Oh come on. No AD is dumb enough to allow that. Especially Currie!
Post by: bones129 on January 12, 2016, 09:06:04 PM
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Post by: michigancat on January 13, 2016, 08:11:24 AM
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lane_Kiffin
Post by: Aggievillian on January 13, 2016, 08:20:20 AM
Post by: PIPE on January 13, 2016, 08:37:32 AM
I'm waiting.....
Post by: scottwildcat on January 13, 2016, 08:49:24 AM
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Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 13, 2016, 09:26:15 AM
This KITN is going to hurtNot really. If you realized it wasn't real from the get go.
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Post by: michigancat on January 13, 2016, 10:35:00 AM
kinda feels similar to ku fans expecting a Harbaugh announcement
a big difference is we have no vacancy. But other than that, yeah.
Post by: dmartin on January 13, 2016, 10:43:39 AM
kinda feels similar to ku fans expecting a Harbaugh announcement
a big difference is we have no vacancy. But other than that, yeah.
And we have a sliver of possibility.
Post by: 'taterblast on January 13, 2016, 10:45:13 AM
kinda feels similar to ku fans expecting a Harbaugh announcement
a big difference is we have no vacancy. But other than that, yeah.
And we have a sliver of possibility.
says who
Post by: michigancat on January 13, 2016, 10:45:59 AM
kinda feels similar to ku fans expecting a Harbaugh announcement
a big difference is we have no vacancy. But other than that, yeah.
And we have a sliver of possibility.
of what?
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 13, 2016, 01:43:25 PM
https://twitter.com/__TopCat/status/687276665613881344
Post by: EMAWforever on January 13, 2016, 01:45:40 PM
:dubious::runaway: :Wha: :Woot: :emawkid:
https://twitter.com/__TopCat/status/687276665613881344
But still :crossfingers:
Post by: cfbandyman on January 13, 2016, 01:47:44 PM
:dubious:
https://twitter.com/__TopCat/status/687276665613881344
:sdeek:
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Post by: That_Guy on January 13, 2016, 04:16:46 PM
The original blackcat's post said we'd hear on/after signing day (Feb 3).
WooHoo! More time for me to get my hopes up. Man, hoping for Venzy and delaying potential announcement dates is like buying multiple powerball tickets, to only be disappointed when you don't win.
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You dick.
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You dick.
He said, "stay tuned." I'm still staying tuned. You are obviously not.
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Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 14, 2016, 08:32:32 AM
Post by: Jabeez on January 14, 2016, 10:22:01 AM
Post by: manpow5 on January 14, 2016, 10:29:11 AM
Post by: CNS on January 14, 2016, 10:34:44 AM
It's kind of ridiculous that no one of relevance has squashed these rumors, except kind of Crabby, although Venzy being in the midlands may be positive for us :crossfingers:. I am sure Kellis and Fitz and DJamer Walburgers are constantly being asked about it, why not just say, yeah not gonna happen, no one thinks its going to happen?They don't know crap until currie emails us all.
Post by: illBisonYourdele on January 14, 2016, 11:09:30 AM
It's kind of ridiculous that no one of relevance has squashed these rumors, except kind of Crabby, although Venzy being in the midlands may be positive for us :crossfingers:. I am sure Kellis and Fitz and DJamer Walburgers are constantly being asked about it, why not just say, yeah not gonna happen, no one thinks its going to happen?
right around the time blackcats first posted, our mutual jayhawk banker buddy asked me what I thought about BV as the potential next head coach. at the time I didnt think anything of it, but now the timing intrigues me
Post by: Jabeez on January 14, 2016, 11:27:53 AM
It's kind of ridiculous that no one of relevance has squashed these rumors, except kind of Crabby, although Venzy being in the midlands may be positive for us :crossfingers:. I am sure Kellis and Fitz and DJamer Walburgers are constantly being asked about it, why not just say, yeah not gonna happen, no one thinks its going to happen?
right around the time blackcats first posted, our mutual jayhawk banker buddy asked me what I thought about BV as the potential next head coach. at the time I didnt think anything of it, but now the timing intrigues me
OMB does know lots of wealthy western Kansas people. Our mutual higher donor friends fiancee seemed to think there was no chance at all, but he was also pak'd and real aloof. Just said "we're gonna be stuck with Sean."
Post by: Panjandrum on January 14, 2016, 11:32:12 AM
It's the donors that are talking right now. What I'm guessing, based on that, is that Currie and the donors may be having one dialog, and Bill is doing his own thing.
No matter what happens, I doubt that this is going to end cleanly and simply with Currie and Bill on the same page.
Post by: Trim on January 14, 2016, 11:33:43 AM
No matter what happens, I doubt that this is going to end cleanly and simply with Currie and Bill on the same page.
:emawkid:
Post by: CNS on January 14, 2016, 11:48:45 AM
No matter what happens, I doubt that this is going to end cleanly and simply with Currie and Bill on the same page.
:emawkid:
combofanning dream
Post by: Trim on January 14, 2016, 11:54:46 AM
No matter what happens, I doubt that this is going to end cleanly and simply with Currie and Bill on the same page.
:emawkid:
combofanning dream
gE won powerball.
Post by: scottwildcat on January 14, 2016, 11:56:41 AM
The Blackcats rumor is that Venables will be the next HC. He never said anything about HCIW.
It's the donors that are talking right now. What I'm guessing, based on that, is that Currie and the donors may be having one dialog, and Bill is doing his own thing.
No matter what happens, I doubt that this is going to end cleanly and simply with Currie and Bill on the same page.
Blackcats said it would be a newly announced DC after signing day I thought?
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Post by: Asteriskhead on January 14, 2016, 12:15:33 PM
No matter what happens, I doubt that this is going to end cleanly and simply with Currie and Bill on the same page.
:emawkid:
combofanning dream
do we know anyone that can lock them in the elevator together until they figure it out?
Post by: TwobizE2P on January 14, 2016, 04:54:55 PM
The Blackcats rumor is that Venables will be the next HC. He never said anything about HCIW.
It's the donors that are talking right now. What I'm guessing, based on that, is that Currie and the donors may be having one dialog, and Bill is doing his own thing.
No matter what happens, I doubt that this is going to end cleanly and simply with Currie and Bill on the same page.
Exactly right....if this oppty has recently evaporated than it will be due to cold feet. Specifically, due to equivocation regarding a fixed retirement timeline.
Post by: chum1 on January 14, 2016, 05:26:14 PM
Post by: Blackcats on January 15, 2016, 07:33:14 AM
The Blackcats rumor is that Venables will be the next HC. He never said anything about HCIW.
It's the donors that are talking right now. What I'm guessing, based on that, is that Currie and the donors may be having one dialog, and Bill is doing his own thing.
No matter what happens, I doubt that this is going to end cleanly and simply with Currie and Bill on the same page.
Blackcats said it would be a newly announced DC after signing day I thought?
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That was my entry on the predicto thread, not a sourced fact.
Honestly, there was more chatter last year at this time than there is right now...but then again BV had been in MHK in Dec 2014.
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Post by: Unruly on January 15, 2016, 12:46:10 PM
I am now depressed
Water is wet etc.
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on January 15, 2016, 01:23:39 PM
There is no reason to wait until after signing day.
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Don't assistant contracts have bonus for staying on till signing day and some other restrictions for leaving before. If BV had kids he thought he could get to MHK he would just need to get them to hold off on signing.
Another part would be a current coaches would probably finish their current term of their contract. When does that end? Signing day.
:dunno:
We need an expert.
Post by: Stevesie60 on January 15, 2016, 01:27:08 PM
Post by: ew2x4 on January 15, 2016, 02:21:14 PM
Post by: Blackcats on January 15, 2016, 02:42:52 PM
There is no reason to wait until after signing day.
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Don't assistant contracts have bonus for staying on till signing day and some other restrictions for leaving before. If BV had kids he thought he could get to MHK he would just need to get them to hold off on signing.
Another part would be a current coaches would probably finish their current term of their contract. When does that end? Signing day.
:dunno:
We need an expert.
This is generally true.
Post by: That_Guy on January 15, 2016, 02:44:46 PM
There is no reason to wait until after signing day.
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Don't assistant contracts have bonus for staying on till signing day and some other restrictions for leaving before. If BV had kids he thought he could get to MHK he would just need to get them to hold off on signing.
Another part would be a current coaches would probably finish their current term of their contract. When does that end? Signing day.
:dunno:
We need an expert.
This is generally true.
Will take it for what it's worth.
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Post by: 'taterblast on January 15, 2016, 03:05:54 PM
but, all along i've sorta figured that if it were to happen, it would happen after signing day. so it seems dead in the water right now, but i would wait until after signing day to see if anything happens.
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Post by: Aggievillian on January 18, 2016, 07:46:27 AM
My info was Leavitt as DC, did not happen, his dad died, not sure that impacted it. Hayes is out recruiting so looks like no news
:buh-bye:
Post by: scottwildcat on January 27, 2016, 09:40:47 PM
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Post by: Unruly on January 27, 2016, 10:31:02 PM
Who will our OC be?
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 27, 2016, 10:45:57 PM
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Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 27, 2016, 11:13:28 PM
Welp, sleeping on my back tonight.you should either Wayl
Post by: i poo crabs on January 28, 2016, 07:28:28 PM
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Post by: SdK on January 28, 2016, 07:40:35 PM
Post by: i poo crabs on January 28, 2016, 09:18:30 PM
Man some people have trouble accepting the truth
i'll quit dreaming when blackcat says it's time to stop dreaming
Post by: wetwillie on January 28, 2016, 09:35:20 PM
Post by: i poo crabs on January 28, 2016, 09:47:19 PM
Dance puppet dance
https://twitter.com/HaxxorCo/status/691100301584134148
Post by: MakeItRain on January 28, 2016, 11:37:52 PM
Man some people have trouble accepting the truth
i'll quit dreaming when blackcat says it's time to stop dreaming
I'm a black cat and I'm telling you to move on.
Post by: Tobias on January 28, 2016, 11:43:52 PM
Post by: bones129 on January 29, 2016, 12:13:35 AM
Post by: dmartin on January 29, 2016, 09:45:15 AM
Man some people have trouble accepting the truth
i'll quit dreaming when blackcat says it's time to stop dreaming
I'm a black cat and I'm telling you to move on.
A but not The
Post by: Panjandrum on January 29, 2016, 01:58:58 PM
Man some people have trouble accepting the truth
i'll quit dreaming when blackcat says it's time to stop dreaming
His story hasn't changed.
But it's been about a week since we've talked.
Post by: PowercatPat on May 20, 2016, 05:40:57 PM
http://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/college-defensive-coordinators-that-get-teams-off-the-field-the-fastest
:love:
Post by: eastcat on May 20, 2016, 08:09:12 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on May 20, 2016, 08:57:21 PM
I want someone chip kelly esque. Obscure hardass that sticks to his guns through thick and thin. Also hates the media.
This is 90% of coaches
Post by: Tobias on May 20, 2016, 08:58:24 PM
Post by: slackcat on May 20, 2016, 09:55:45 PM
This whole Vennzy thing has run its course, let it die. I'm prepping myself for the next crap hire. :blindfold:
Post by: That_Guy on May 20, 2016, 10:27:41 PM
Tom Hayes sucks.
This whole Vennzy thing has run its course, let it die. I'm prepping myself for the next crap hire. :blindfold:
Why be down and sad on something now when you can wait for it to happen at a later date?