Post by: meow meow on October 10, 2015, 10:34:24 PM
Post by: Dugout DickStone on October 10, 2015, 10:36:06 PM
Post by: OK_Cat on October 10, 2015, 10:37:05 PM
Post by: BostonPancake on October 11, 2015, 12:10:28 AM
Everyone of those people should be fired.
Post by: Trim on October 11, 2015, 12:11:56 AM
How could a room full of journalists NOT ask what his thought process was on not going for it and kicking the field goal. How does that not get asked? That's the only reason I listened, and NO ONE asked it.
Everyone of those people should be fired.
OBz said it was obviously the wrong call. There's your explanation.
Post by: BostonPancake on October 11, 2015, 12:14:46 AM
How could a room full of journalists NOT ask what his thought process was on not going for it and kicking the field goal. How does that not get asked? That's the only reason I listened, and NO ONE asked it.
Everyone of those people should be fired.
OBz said it was obviously the wrong call. There's your explanation.
I guess I did not hear that on the post game. I knew the explanation would be along those lines, but I just couldn't believe that wasn't the first question.
Post by: j rake on October 11, 2015, 12:15:27 AM
Post by: michigancat on October 11, 2015, 02:34:46 AM
Post by: PIPE on October 11, 2015, 08:15:27 AM
Post by: slobber on October 11, 2015, 09:39:44 AM
Gonna win 'em all!
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 11, 2015, 12:22:06 PM
He was so happy when he made it. The fact that he was that excited for making a game tying 37 yard field goal kind of scared me. Bill, does that scare you?
Gonna win 'em all!
I thought it was over the top, but if he needs to get pumped up like that to make kicks, then more power to him.
Post by: TownieCat on October 11, 2015, 12:34:05 PM
I liked how we called a timeout before the field goalI assumed that we called the TO because Snyder changed his mind about going for it. This was obviously an incorrect assumption.
Post by: MakeItRain on October 11, 2015, 01:05:21 PM
I liked how we called a timeout before the field goalI assumed that we called the TO because Snyder changed his mind about going for it. This was obviously an incorrect assumption.
I did as well. I am stunned that no one either said or could convince Snyder that the best outcome there was giving TCU the ball back with 90 seconds left in a tied game. They have one of the best QBs in the country, the best receiver, and possibly the best kicker with all three TO's, what could have possibly gone wrong?
Post by: Trim on October 11, 2015, 04:39:00 PM
Post by: BackPayne on October 11, 2015, 04:48:04 PM
I can tell this loss hurt, especially knowing playcalling lost the game for us two weeks in a row.
I wish Dimel was up there instead of Bill. :shakesfist:
Post by: Trim on October 11, 2015, 05:03:46 PM
Post by: catastrophe on October 11, 2015, 05:09:52 PM
He was so happy when he made it. The fact that he was that excited for making a game tying 37 yard field goal kind of scared me. Bill, does that scare you?
Gonna win 'em all!
I thought it was over the top, but if he needs to get pumped up like that to make kicks, then more power to him.
I hated the call for the obvious reasons, but also because of Cantele's record under pressure. I think he knew it too and was just happy to get that monkey off his back. He didn't win the game, but a miss would've lost it.
Post by: slobber on October 11, 2015, 05:11:42 PM
(https://ct.yimg.com/mr/uploads/889/F1160401.jpg)surprised he doesn't have a tape measure in his hand. Less than 37 inches and we go with it. Anything at 37 or more and we are kicking it.
Gonna win 'em all!
Post by: chum1 on October 11, 2015, 05:12:39 PM
(https://ct.yimg.com/mr/uploads/889/F1160401.jpg)
"Let's tie this game up and take our chances in overtime."
Post by: Trim on October 11, 2015, 05:14:02 PM
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Exactly. Furthermore our job is to attempt to get an answer, not be confrontational and emotional as a function of venting frustration. In fact, I took the mic from a young reporter who was about to react this way and thus get destroyed by Snyder, get no usable answer and damage his relationship with a source he needs.
Post by: slobber on October 11, 2015, 05:24:31 PM
which horrible loser who sucks at his job said that and when?QuoteExactly. Furthermore our job is to attempt to get an answer, not be confrontational and emotional as a function of venting frustration. In fact, I took the mic from a young reporter who was about to react this way and thus get destroyed by Snyder, get no usable answer and damage his relationship with a source he needs.
Gonna win 'em all!
Post by: sonofdaxjones on October 11, 2015, 06:14:31 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on October 11, 2015, 06:18:57 PM
Post by: chum1 on October 11, 2015, 06:47:52 PM
Post by: Trim on October 11, 2015, 06:51:39 PM
Post by: chum1 on October 11, 2015, 06:56:21 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on October 11, 2015, 08:23:24 PM
As someone who doesn't pay attention to or care about other local media, isn't that a fairly standard attitude for sports "journalists"? Are there markets that go hard after college coaches? I genuinely do not know
Fairly standard? No. It's more common in college towns with coaches viewed as deities. For example, in Tuscaloosa local media are easy on Saban, Anthony Grant didn't get that luxury. If/when the basketball season turns into a disaster, Weber will be questioned much more sternly than Snyder. The ironic part is in cases like this there is much more pressure from other spineless media members to fall in line than the repercussions of asking tough questions.
I'd be willing to bet that in this case, the young reporter was Andrew Hammond, and Fitz stopping him had much more to do with Fitz than Andrew potentially getting a little sass from a septuagenarian.
Post by: meow meow on October 12, 2015, 10:46:37 AM
Post by: Dugout DickStone on October 12, 2015, 10:55:31 AM
Andrew Hammond still doesn't know how we lost that game
Good thing Fitz stopped him from asking, or he would have been destroyed by Lincoln-Douglas debate champ LHC Bill Snyder.
Post by: Trim on October 12, 2015, 11:09:50 AM
Post by: meow meow on October 12, 2015, 11:14:38 AM
Post by: slobber on October 12, 2015, 12:53:54 PM
:lol:Andrew Hammond still doesn't know how we lost that game
Good thing Fitz stopped him from asking, or he would have been destroyed by Lincoln-Douglas debate champ LHC LHC Bill Snyder.
Post by: kslim on October 12, 2015, 01:11:16 PM
drop the rough ridin' mic. Its overAndrew Hammond still doesn't know how we lost that game
Good thing Fitz stopped him from asking, or he would have been destroyed by Lincoln-Douglas debate champ LHC Bill Snyder.
Post by: Trim on October 12, 2015, 01:20:44 PM
drop the rough ridin' mic. Its over
Drop the mic or have it taken from you.
Post by: chum1 on October 12, 2015, 01:23:15 PM
Post by: kslim on October 12, 2015, 01:23:31 PM
its @ towniecatdrop the rough ridin' mic. Its over
Drop the mic or have it taken from you.
Post by: TownieCat on October 12, 2015, 02:40:47 PM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on October 12, 2015, 02:43:05 PM
Wow, KSU/MHK is an even more cloistered, coddled world then I ever thought.
Post by: MakeItRain on October 12, 2015, 03:17:18 PM
So asking about the apparent change to a pass first offensive mindset to start the second half would have sent Snyder over the edge?
Wow, KSU/MHK is an even more cloistered, coddled world then I ever thought.
PSUw?
Post by: Big Sam on October 12, 2015, 03:25:40 PM
As someone who doesn't pay attention to or care about other local media, isn't that a fairly standard attitude for sports "journalists"? Are there markets that go hard after college coaches? I genuinely do not know
When Snyder first came to KSU, he was considered easy prey by the regional media. I crazy guy taking over an awful program that could never be better. They blasted him for about anything they could think of (secrecy, believing KSU could win, recruiting out of state, not giving interviews and good quotes, whatever the issue of the day/week/month was). The press noted the real coaching talent was Glenn Mason at KU. Even when KSU became successful, often the national media line of smoke and mirrors, KSU doesn't play anyone, and Snyder is crazy were still run even when those in the region should have known some of it was pure B.S. - easy stories are easy stories.
Snyder's long term record, longevity in the sport (and I honestly think the Ron Prince fiasco) has elevated Snyder's standing and the press is far more deferential to him during Snyder 2.0. I was shocked how positive local and national press was in his regard when he came back (they questioned if he could get it done, but they were still generally positive in their reporting).
Post by: Cire on October 12, 2015, 07:41:05 PM
He wouldn't have answered the question anyway, everyone knows that.
Post by: Cire on October 12, 2015, 07:41:58 PM
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on October 12, 2015, 09:49:55 PM
I liked how we called a timeout before the field goalI assumed that we called the TO because Snyder changed his mind about going for it. This was obviously an incorrect assumption.
I did as well. I am stunned that no one either said or could convince Snyder that the best outcome there was giving TCU the ball back with 90 seconds left in a tied game. They have one of the best QBs in the country, the best receiver, and possibly the best kicker with all three TO's, what could have possibly gone wrong?
Agree, EXCEPT they only had 2 TO's #sickburn
Post by: Skipper44 on October 13, 2015, 09:33:08 AM
I think Bill did a ton of stuff for local media people during his sabbatical that really softened their stance against him. Also, everyone started withholding injury info and closing practices. Finally, Mangino's success at KU showed that scheduling an easy non con is absolutely the right way to build a program in the state of Kansas so there wasn't much left.As someone who doesn't pay attention to or care about other local media, isn't that a fairly standard attitude for sports "journalists"? Are there markets that go hard after college coaches? I genuinely do not know
When Snyder first came to KSU, he was considered easy prey by the regional media. I crazy guy taking over an awful program that could never be better. They blasted him for about anything they could think of (secrecy, believing KSU could win, recruiting out of state, not giving interviews and good quotes, whatever the issue of the day/week/month was). The press noted the real coaching talent was Glenn Mason at KU. Even when KSU became successful, often the national media line of smoke and mirrors, KSU doesn't play anyone, and Snyder is crazy were still run even when those in the region should have known some of it was pure B.S. - easy stories are easy stories.
Snyder's long term record, longevity in the sport (and I honestly think the Ron Prince fiasco) has elevated Snyder's standing and the press is far more deferential to him during Snyder 2.0. I was shocked how positive local and national press was in his regard when he came back (they questioned if he could get it done, but they were still generally positive in their reporting).