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Discuss.
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Intent on throwing.
Missed catch by Klein may be big.
Missed FG by Cantele before half may prove to be bigger.
Probably will take a big play by the defense (turnover) or special teams (long return/block) to win this game.
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I agree with Hutch. Wtf is this with this playcalling.
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KSU's blocking on that 3rd-and-10 play: :sdeek: At least 2 of 3 rushers made it through to pressure Cook almost immediately.
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We get a td this drive.
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I find it hard to complain too much about play calling with a 5th string QB. They were magical in the first half. We missed a wide open Klein early in the 2nd. Its going to be tough now that OSU has had time to adjust.
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We are going to have to beat them over the top a few times for our first half play calling to start working again.
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It just seems like we are trying to run Cook too much without completing many passes. I don't like it.
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Like there. Is it blocking? Playcalling? I really don't know know.
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The delayed draws with Cook (without misdirection) have been just disastrous, haven't they?
Disclaimer: listened to (but didn't watch) 1st half.
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Pretty tough when your left guard gets absolutely destroyed.
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The delayed draws with Cook (without misdirection) have been just disastrous, haven't they?
Early they were great. Now, not so much.
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The delayed draws with Cook (without misdirection) have been just disastrous, haven't they?
Only in the second half.
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We need to call more plays that result in positive gains, first downs, and touchdowns. I have no idea what they look like, but I'd like to see some more of them.
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We need to call more plays that result in positive gains, first downs, and touchdowns. I have no idea what they look like, but I'd like to see some more of them.
We are going to have to go downfield more. Cook is going to have to start hitting his WRs.
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Dline looks absolutely gassed
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Our ball. Suck it.
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I believe that we will win
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What a fun game.
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lol
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We are cursed, guys. Holy eff. Amazing run...5th-string QB injury.
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Cook will be fine. Joe need to learn to not slide like a wuss ass.
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Welcome to the ksu qb shoulder club.
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if we can hold on and win this, then we can beat ISU and KU with cody whitehair at QB and go to a bowl game
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if we can hold on and win this, then we can beat ISU and KU with cody whitehair at QB and go to a bowl game
Hahahha
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And we draw up a pass for Gronk. :)
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I didn't realize the intentional grounding penalty works differently for running backs.
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Joe pass to Cook for the win.
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Morgan Burns living up to his name today.
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eff Burns
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if we can hold on and win this, then we can beat ISU and KU with cody whitehair at QB and go to a bowl game
This may be a winning strategy given that Whitehair has been almost untouched by OSU's pass rushers for much of the game.
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Neck brace burns.
Gonna win 'em all!
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This half: :facepalm:
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The 2nd half has been as unfun as the 1st half was fun.
I guess #SnyderDevilMagic couldn't last forever.
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Or can it?
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Maybe everyone on this roster is a stud QB.
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4 down territory!
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Why did you wait so long to throw that?
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I mean. Christ.
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Why did he drop it?
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That was a really good play call and should have been caught. It was right in his hands.
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Why did you wait so long to throw that?
and why did he drop it so fast? :dunno:
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Why did you wait so long to throw that?
and why did he drop it so fast? :dunno:
Damn all around
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Cats!
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Thank you Joe!
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I love the symmetry of this game.
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We just need the defense to decide they don't suck and stop giving OSU everything right now.
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Wtf. Good lord.
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I love the symmetry of this game.
:thumbsup: ..................................................................( :crossfingers:)
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Come on Cats!
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Should have taken 6 or 7 false starts to give Joe a chance to throw a 40-yard pass for the 2-point conversion.
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OMFG.
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Can'tele :curse:
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Welp.
http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=11721658
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WTF
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Hail Mary at twenty seconds. eff eff eff
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:bang:
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Bad defense is going to cost this team all year long
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This defense is terrible.
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All things considered, pretty amazing that the cats were in this game until the very end (on the road, no less). Almost pulled it out. Highly entertaining, at least.
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Defense wasn't helped by the offense going three and out almost every drive the 2nd the half.
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The special teams get some credit too
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Go Cats :ksu:
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All things considered, pretty amazing that the cats were in this game until the very end (on the road, no less). Almost pulled it out. Highly entertaining, at least.
It is bullshit that we lost. OSU is not a good football team, yet we couldn't get a stop.
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This defense is terrible.
if art briles didnt respect bill he could put 100 on us.
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No moral victory here. We just lost to a very average team. A team that tried really damn hard to give us this game.
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If hubes started the second half, we win. Also, this defense is aids
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Dimel and Hayes should both be fired for that crap show of a second half.
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If hubes started the second half, we win. Also, this defense is aids
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My view of the defense is you just can't play "keep it in front of you" against spread offensives unless your D-line can get consistent pressure. You have to bring more bodies. When we did that today, we had success. We we played it safe, we got burned -- again, again and again.
Christ can't Lee back on the D-line if we aren't going to blitz?
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We miss Dante badly.
K-State simply will never have the depth of talent to absorb losses like this for long stretches of time.
Still, the missed FG, then missed 2 point stand out. Plus the botched drive with 1st and 10 at the OSU 30. Plus the incoherent offense (players and coaches alike) in the 3rd. Plus the ridiculous quarterback injuries we've seen this year.
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Hubes is garbage. A goddamn walkon WR played better than him until Dana forgot to run the ball in the 2nd half.
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If hubes started the second half, we win. Also, this defense is aids
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My view of the defense is you just can't play "keep it in front of you" against spread offensives unless your D-line can get consistent pressure. You have to bring more bodies. When we did that today, we had success. We we played it safe, we got burned -- again, again and again.
Christ can't Lee back on the D-line if we aren't going to blitz?
We blitzed a ton and got beat in man situations too. Hayes was trying to do everything on defense.
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How happy is beems right now?
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If hubes started the second half, we win. Also, this defense is aids
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We may have gotten beat a few times on blitzes (I can remember once), but I can't think of one stop we got on a third and long when rushing four. It just didn't work.
My view of the defense is you just can't play "keep it in front of you" against spread offensives unless your D-line can get consistent pressure. You have to bring more bodies. When we did that today, we had success. We we played it safe, we got burned -- again, again and again.
Christ can't Lee back on the D-line if we aren't going to blitz?
We blitzed a ton and got beat in man situations too. Hayes was trying to do everything on defense.
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The idea that we just need to "blitz" more on defense is silly. The whole unit is just bad. Only KU has a worse defense.
Maybe Texas, but we'll see.
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News flash, OSU's defense isn't good either, as our WR qb proved in the first half.
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We miss Dante badly.
K-State simply will never have the depth of talent to absorb losses like this for long stretches of time.
Still, the missed FG, then missed 2 point stand out. Plus the botched drive with 1st and 10 at the OSU 30. Plus the incoherent offense (players and coaches alike) in the 3rd. Plus the ridiculous quarterback injuries we've seen this year.
The biggest issue in the 3rd was three missed passes, two to Davis and one to Klein. They were open to get first downs. Would have prevented them from taking momentum and kept our D off the field
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The idea that we just need to "blitz" more on defense is silly. The whole unit is just bad. Only KU has a worse defense.
Maybe Texas, but we'll see.
I agree. It is awful. Back 7 is disgusting.I mean I will have to really think about which is a shittier player: burns or jackson. Everyone wI'll say burns because of the drive where OSU just mumped him all the way down the field, but if you want to see a sneaky crappy player just watch Jackson, play in and play out.
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TCU will light is up. I may just play golf during the game to avoid the crap show.
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Yeah next week we give up 60
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Can you imagine Burns locked up in man to man against Doctson next week? I imagine Doctson watching our secondary on film is similar to a sex addict watching porn.
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This is going to be a rough year. Finding three more wins is going to be tricky. Yes KU should be a gimme, but beyond that I don't see our defense stopping anyone else (this is regardless of what our offense does). The def efficiency was atrocious.
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The only question for next week is if burns will abort the rape-baby or keep it
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The only question for next week is if burns will abort the rape-baby or keep it
I'd like to see him keep it. I mean, the gang bang TCU, Baylor, and WVU will put on him will only lead to another one.
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The only question for next week is if burns will abort the rape-baby or keep it
I'd like to see him keep it. I mean, the gang bang TCU, Baylor, and WVU will put on him will only lead to another one.
Oh I think Tech will poke his head in there as well.
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Gonna need a dna test at the end of the season to find out the father
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Add another loss to the after a by week statistic
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The only question for next week is if burns will abort the rape-baby or keep it
I'd like to see him keep it. I mean, the gang bang TCU, Baylor, and WVU will put on him will only lead to another one.
Oh I think Tech will poke his head in there as well.
I guess I would just assume anything with Kliff would be consentual. But yes, they'll get a turn. And if Bob isn't too lazy to watch film, Shepherd will have a career day as well, so throw OU in there.
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At this point, proud Paul might try and slip it in for a quarter or two
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Maybe you guys talked about this somewhere else, but didn't Hubes get totally sketti brained? How could he go back in?
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Maybe you guys talked about this somewhere else, but didn't Hubes get totally sketti brained? How could he go back in?
Think he just got rattled but by the time he was ready, cook already took his job
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He wasn't sketti-ed or he wouldn't have been given his helmet, which he had even in the first half.
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Maybe you guys talked about this somewhere else, but didn't Hubes get totally sketti brained? How could he go back in?
They never took his helmet away. So I guess he passed the test. There is no way Hubner was the planned QB for conference play. He is so limited to what he can run in our offense.
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Hubes is garbage. A goddamn walkon WR played better than him until Dana forgot to run the ball in the 2nd half.
I don't have many disimilar thoughts on Hubes. Never really got what anyone on this board saw in him. At all.
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Hubes was def knocked out. His arms were pointing straight up in the air like that dude in Platoon.
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Gundy and co did outcoach the crap out of Bill and co in the second half.
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Hubes is garbage. A goddamn walkon WR played better than him until Dana forgot to run the ball in the 2nd half.
THIS
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Can you imagine Burns locked up in man to man against Doctson next week? I imagine Doctson watching our secondary on film is similar to a sex addict watching porn.
Wouldn't McDaniel be covering Doctson?
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I'm disappointed in losing a road game we had chances to win. We made mistakes on offense, defense, and special teams that were all costly.
But I'm not pissed about this game. We did a lot of nice things, especially considering this has to be the most injuries I've ever seen on a Snyder coached team. I'm still hopeful this can be a fun season with a bowl at the end.
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Defense wasn't helped by the offense going three and out almost every drive the 2nd the half.
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Defense wasn't helped by being in and of itself a shitty unit.
I am sorry but giving up as many third and longs as they did was their fault alone. If they wanted off the field then they should have stopped OSU when it was 3rd and 10+.
The offense gave as much as they could in the first half of this game and the defense simply crap the bed over and over again.
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our kicker putting it out of bounds on the last kickoff is unforgiveable
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our kicker putting it out of bounds on the last kickoff is unforgiveable
It gave them 10 yards. They converted a 4th and 8 on that drive that was a much bigger mistake. It's pretty likely they were going to score whether they got it on the 15, 25, or 35.
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our kicker putting it out of bounds on the last kickoff is unforgiveable
It gave them 10 yards. They converted a 4th and 8 on that drive that was a much bigger mistake. It's pretty likely they were going to score whether they got it on the 15, 25, or 35.
oh, we should have kicked an onside if them scoring was inevitable then.
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our kicker putting it out of bounds on the last kickoff is unforgiveable
It gave them 10 yards. They converted a 4th and 8 on that drive that was a much bigger mistake. It's pretty likely they were going to score whether they got it on the 15, 25, or 35.
oh, we should have kicked an onside if them scoring was inevitable then.
Honestly, we should have. The defense wasn't going to stop them. If they got the back on the one yard line the only difference would be one less interception for zooks.
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our kicker putting it out of bounds on the last kickoff is unforgiveable
It gave them 10 yards. They converted a 4th and 8 on that drive that was a much bigger mistake. It's pretty likely they were going to score whether they got it on the 15, 25, or 35.
oh, we should have kicked an onside if them scoring was inevitable then.
Someone said this on Twitter before the kick.
I didn't think scoring was inevitable before the drive started but after they converted that 4th, it seemed apparent that we needed a turnover.
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I enjoyed the 3rd and 23 at the end of the first half where burns gave a 28yd cushion. The amount of 3rd and 4th and longs this team gives up is rough ridin' unreal.
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I enjoyed the 3rd and 23 at the end of the first half where burns gave a 28yd cushion. The amount of 3rd and 4th and longs this team gives up is rough ridin' unreal.
They were in a zone there.
I wonder how much attention it will get that they actually didn't get a first down on that play. The officials only walked off 5 yards on the holding penalty. What's funny is that the FS1 broadcast had the 1st down line in the right place but the officials, the announcers, and our dumb ass coaches somehow all missed that. It was obviously a huge first down given the distance, time, and location on the field.
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I enjoyed the 3rd and 23 at the end of the first half where burns gave a 28yd cushion. The amount of 3rd and 4th and longs this team gives up is rough ridin' unreal.
They were in a zone there.
I wonder how much attention it will get that they actually didn't get a first down on that play. The officials only walked off 5 yards on the holding penalty. What's funny is that the FS1 broadcast had the 1st down line in the right place but the officials, the announcers, and our dumb ass coaches somehow all missed that. It was obviously a huge first down given the distance, time, and location on the field.
I wondered that myself. But don't have dvr to rewind.
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I enjoyed the 3rd and 23 at the end of the first half where burns gave a 28yd cushion. The amount of 3rd and 4th and longs this team gives up is rough ridin' unreal.
They were in a zone there.
I wonder how much attention it will get that they actually didn't get a first down on that play. The officials only walked off 5 yards on the holding penalty. What's funny is that the FS1 broadcast had the 1st down line in the right place but the officials, the announcers, and our dumb ass coaches somehow all missed that. It was obviously a huge first down given the distance, time, and location on the field.
Yeah but unless we were in cover 3 burns should have been in front of him, not 5 yards behind him 28yd down the field.
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I enjoyed the 3rd and 23 at the end of the first half where burns gave a 28yd cushion. The amount of 3rd and 4th and longs this team gives up is rough ridin' unreal.
They were in a zone there.
I wonder how much attention it will get that they actually didn't get a first down on that play. The officials only walked off 5 yards on the holding penalty. What's funny is that the FS1 broadcast had the 1st down line in the right place but the officials, the announcers, and our dumb ass coaches somehow all missed that. It was obviously a huge first down given the distance, time, and location on the field.
Yeah but unless we were in cover 3 burns should have been in front of him, not 5 yards behind him 28yd down the field.
I don't know what he knew but Burned stopped him 5 yards short of where the first down should have been. I'm not defending Burned
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I enjoyed the 3rd and 23 at the end of the first half where burns gave a 28yd cushion. The amount of 3rd and 4th and longs this team gives up is rough ridin' unreal.
They were in a zone there.
I wonder how much attention it will get that they actually didn't get a first down on that play. The officials only walked off 5 yards on the holding penalty. What's funny is that the FS1 broadcast had the 1st down line in the right place but the officials, the announcers, and our dumb ass coaches somehow all missed that. It was obviously a huge first down given the distance, time, and location on the field.
I wondered that myself. But don't have dvr to rewind.
Yeah, I saw that catch and rolled my eyes a bit, like "at least they didn't get the firs...."
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I enjoyed the 3rd and 23 at the end of the first half where burns gave a 28yd cushion. The amount of 3rd and 4th and longs this team gives up is rough ridin' unreal.
They were in a zone there.
I wonder how much attention it will get that they actually didn't get a first down on that play. The officials only walked off 5 yards on the holding penalty. What's funny is that the FS1 broadcast had the 1st down line in the right place but the officials, the announcers, and our dumb ass coaches somehow all missed that. It was obviously a huge first down given the distance, time, and location on the field.
I wondered that myself. But don't have dvr to rewind.
Yeah, I saw that catch and rolled my eyes a bit, like "at least they didn't get the firs...."
I just watched it again and I don't understand how it all happened. When OSU had their original 1st and 10 from just past our 45, the first down marker was placed correctly just past our 35. I guess I never pay attention in any other scenario, but why would a penalty have someone moving that marker from the 35 yard line at all, let alone 5 yards instead of a wrong-but-at-least-understandable 10 yards? A penalty will affect where the ball's snapped from, but that shouldn't have any bearing on where the offense has to get.
Is this game online somewhere or do I have to viakoffman youtube the whole sequence?
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I enjoyed the 3rd and 23 at the end of the first half where burns gave a 28yd cushion. The amount of 3rd and 4th and longs this team gives up is rough ridin' unreal.
They were in a zone there.
I wonder how much attention it will get that they actually didn't get a first down on that play. The officials only walked off 5 yards on the holding penalty. What's funny is that the FS1 broadcast had the 1st down line in the right place but the officials, the announcers, and our dumb ass coaches somehow all missed that. It was obviously a huge first down given the distance, time, and location on the field.
I wondered that myself. But don't have dvr to rewind.
Yeah, I saw that catch and rolled my eyes a bit, like "at least they didn't get the firs...."
I just watched it again and I don't understand how it all happened. When OSU had their original 1st and 10 from just past our 45, the first down marker was placed correctly just past our 35. I guess I never pay attention in any other scenario, but why would a penalty have someone moving that marker from the 35 yard line at all, let alone 5 yards instead of a wrong-but-at-least-understandable 10 yards? A penalty will affect where the ball's snapped from, but that shouldn't have any bearing on where the offense has to get.
Is this game online somewhere or do I have to viakoffman youtube the whole sequence?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QuPWo_DLVXA&feature=youtu.be
Also write up on it from BOTC: http://www.bringonthecats.com/2015/10/3/9447707/outrageous-officiating-incompetence-costs-k-state
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I can't believe we lost the game on that call and now no one noticed on the field.
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QuPWo_DLVXA&feature=youtu.be
JFC, I don't even know what kind of vodka/QB quality that video is.
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I enjoyed the 3rd and 23 at the end of the first half where burns gave a 28yd cushion. The amount of 3rd and 4th and longs this team gives up is rough ridin' unreal.
They were in a zone there.
I wonder how much attention it will get that they actually didn't get a first down on that play. The officials only walked off 5 yards on the holding penalty. What's funny is that the FS1 broadcast had the 1st down line in the right place but the officials, the announcers, and our dumb ass coaches somehow all missed that. It was obviously a huge first down given the distance, time, and location on the field.
I wondered that myself. But don't have dvr to rewind.
Yeah, I saw that catch and rolled my eyes a bit, like "at least they didn't get the firs...."
I just watched it again and I don't understand how it all happened. When OSU had their original 1st and 10 from just past our 45, the first down marker was placed correctly just past our 35. I guess I never pay attention in any other scenario, but why would a penalty have someone moving that marker from the 35 yard line at all, let alone 5 yards instead of a wrong-but-at-least-understandable 10 yards? A penalty will affect where the ball's snapped from, but that shouldn't have any bearing on where the offense has to get.
Is this game online somewhere or do I have to viakoffman youtube the whole sequence?
It looks like the problem was that the Chain gang moved them on the long play where the penalty occurred and didn't put them back in the right spot and no one noticed.
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I enjoyed the 3rd and 23 at the end of the first half where burns gave a 28yd cushion. The amount of 3rd and 4th and longs this team gives up is rough ridin' unreal.
They were in a zone there.
I wonder how much attention it will get that they actually didn't get a first down on that play. The officials only walked off 5 yards on the holding penalty. What's funny is that the FS1 broadcast had the 1st down line in the right place but the officials, the announcers, and our dumb ass coaches somehow all missed that. It was obviously a huge first down given the distance, time, and location on the field.
I wondered that myself. But don't have dvr to rewind.
Yeah, I saw that catch and rolled my eyes a bit, like "at least they didn't get the firs...."
I just watched it again and I don't understand how it all happened. When OSU had their original 1st and 10 from just past our 45, the first down marker was placed correctly just past our 35. I guess I never pay attention in any other scenario, but why would a penalty have someone moving that marker from the 35 yard line at all, let alone 5 yards instead of a wrong-but-at-least-understandable 10 yards? A penalty will affect where the ball's snapped from, but that shouldn't have any bearing on where the offense has to get.
Is this game online somewhere or do I have to viakoffman youtube the whole sequence?
It looks like the problem was that the Chain gang moved them on the long play where the penalty occurred and didn't put them back in the right spot and no one noticed.
Which is absurd. The chains aren't supposed to move until the refs tell them to move, and they shouldn't have be signaled until the penalties have been taken care of
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:lol: :lol: :lol:
Afterward, K-State coach LHC Bill Snyder told the Kansas City Star he had noticed the error, but didn't elaborate.
"I am trying to think what the official told me about it," Snyder said. "I can't remember right now."
http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/13803765/officiating-error-leads-oklahoma-state-cowboys-touchdown-win-kansas-state-wildcats
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It looks like the problem was that the Chain gang moved them on the long play where the penalty occurred and didn't put them back in the right spot and no one noticed.
Ah, that makes sense as to how it could've even happened. Pretty shitty that they prematurely moved the stuff, but shittier that KSU let it happen.
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It looks like the problem was that the Chain gang moved them on the long play where the penalty occurred and didn't put them back in the right spot and no one noticed.
Ah, that makes sense as to how it could've even happened. Pretty shitty that they prematurely moved the stuff, but shittier that KSU let it happen.
Yes, someone majorly mumped up for it to happen, but there's a lot of people who should take the blame that it wasn't fixed.
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:lol: :lol: :lol:
Afterward, K-State coach LHC Bill Snyder told the Kansas City Star he had noticed the error, but didn't elaborate.
"I am trying to think what the official told me about it," Snyder said. "I can't remember right now."
http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/13803765/officiating-error-leads-oklahoma-state-cowboys-touchdown-win-kansas-state-wildcats
My first thought after it had been confirmed as an error was that I couldn't believe Snyder didn't notice/say anything about it. Surprised that he did notice and said something, but was just like, :dunno:, OK.