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General Discussion => Essentially Flyertalk => Topic started by: KCFDcat on September 14, 2015, 08:49:19 AM
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Anyone done it? Taking amtrak to Chicago this weekend with some buds. Any tips and/or tricks to make the ride more enjoyable?
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Weed brownies
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fly instead. your time is more valuable than whatever kind of money it's saving you.
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fly instead. your time is more valuable than whatever kind of money it's saving you.
It only cost me $10...
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fly instead. your time is more valuable than whatever kind of money it's saving you.
It only cost me $10...
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I'll punch you in the face for $1 (not really, but you know what I mean), it doesn't make it a good deal.
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fly instead. your time is more valuable than whatever kind of money it's saving you.
It only cost me $10...
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I'll punch you in the face for $1 (not really, but you know what I mean), it doesn't make it a good deal.
Meh. Saved about $175. Was a last minute trip. Have never been on a train,looking forward to "the experience"
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I think you can bring your own booze but maybe not
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last time I rode on a train (amtrak from KC to Chicago) the sewage line broke and we were stuck on the tracks smelling raw crap for two hours. food for thought.
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last time I rode on a train (amtrak from KC to Chicago) the sewage line broke and we were stuck on the tracks smelling raw crap for two hours. food for thought.
I bet you weren't thinking about food at all on that train.
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last time I rode on a train (amtrak from KC to Chicago) the sewage line broke and we were stuck on the tracks smelling raw crap for two hours. food for thought.
Was this a big train?
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The only actual train ride I've taken was the eurostar from london to paris. I've never been on a domestic train outside of airport transfer trains, various cities light rail and subways, the historic henry doorley zoo steam train and the mono-rail and steam train at disney world. But, I read a lot of travel blogs and they all at some point are like "wow, amtrak is so cheap, I'm going to try it out" and then are 100% all "never again" afterwords.
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Lil sd would like a short train trip I bet. Where does omaha go to?
What keeps me out of the train game when I was going to use it was the train left at like 4am from Topeka or kc or something
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I enjoy it. Very relaxed way to travel, it's fun if you aren't in a hurry. Since the train stations are actually downtown, you don't have to worry about transit from downtown to airport, time arriving early to park, time arriving early for security (KC, lol, precheck lol, but still), baggage claim. Also, you can get away with BYOB and get smashed, or take advantage of the fairly cheap bar.
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Lil sd would like a short train trip I bet. Where does omaha go to?
What keeps me out of the train game when I was going to use it was the train left at like 4am from Topeka or kc or something
yes, the amtrak leaves from both places way too early in the morning.
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Leaves at 7 from kc. Gets in around 3 to Chicago.
I think I'm going to live gE this adventure on Friday! Stay tuned!
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KK had an enjoyable train experience a month ago but I don't know if he got an erection.
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The only actual train ride I've taken was the eurostar from london to paris. I've never been on a domestic train outside of airport transfer trains, various cities light rail and subways, the historic henry doorley zoo steam train and the mono-rail and steam train at disney world. But, I read a lot of travel blogs and they all at some point are like "wow, amtrak is so cheap, I'm going to try it out" and then are 100% all "never again" afterwords.
but they got the experience, so...
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KK had an enjoyable train experience a month ago but I don't know if he got an erection.
I was expecting a Katdaddy thread when I first looked at this. Turns out it is just poor spelling....
Probably going to take this trip sometime in the near future though...
https://www.royalgorgeroute.com/special-events/oktoberfest/
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Thomas the Train rides are great. Have done twice. Would recommend.
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some of you better watch your mouths ITT
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Just realized it auto corrected to rising. Super embarrassing, guys
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You will develop a hatred for freight trains. Also, don't plan anything for awhile after 3pm, as you may not be on time.
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You will develop a hatred for freight trains. Also, don't plan anything for awhile after 3pm, as you may not be on time.
If you are talking about the beertrain, it won't matter as I am pretty sure I'll be at least a 6 by then. :beersmiley:
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You will develop a hatred for freight trains. Also, don't plan anything for awhile after 3pm, as you may not be on time.
Only thing we have planned starts at 8 0 that night.
We're packing plenty of booze, planning on being at least a 5 the entire ride
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You will develop a hatred for freight trains. Also, don't plan anything for awhile after 3pm, as you may not be on time.
If you are talking about the beertrain, it won't matter as I am pretty sure I'll be at least a 6 by then. :beersmiley:
No, not you. KCFD. You'll be just fine, we haven't been down there to do that yet but have friends that said it's fun. We were going to one year but it was when Colorado was burning and flooding to the ground.
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You will develop a hatred for freight trains. Also, don't plan anything for awhile after 3pm, as you may not be on time.
If you are talking about the beertrain, it won't matter as I am pretty sure I'll be at least a 6 by then. :beersmiley:
No, not you. KCFD. You'll be just fine, we haven't been down there to do that yet but have friends that said it's fun. We were going to one year but it was when Colorado was burning and flooding to the ground.
I think the only negative to the trip will be a pak'd overnight stay in Canon City..... :barf:
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You will develop a hatred for freight trains. Also, don't plan anything for awhile after 3pm, as you may not be on time.
Only thing we have planned starts at 8 0 that night.
We're packing plenty of booze, planning on being at least a 5 the entire ride
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Yeah, you should be good by then. I've only taken it to StL so your route may go by quicker, but we showed up 2-3 hours after expected.
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Do you enjoy the smell of tepid piss water?
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Do you enjoy the smell of tepid piss water?
you had me at tepid piss water
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you should pretty much always figure the ride will take 50% longer due to various issues. IE, don't plan anything important around the arrival time.
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The Southwest Chief usually arrives in Chicago on time. It's the last stop, and there is a fair amount of flex time built in the schedule. The latest I've arrived is a half hour late.
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Passenger trains with the exception of the Acela don't have priority over other traffic (freight) so it's slow as crap usually.
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I was looking at taking a train ride today. Amtrak from Louisville to Chicago is a damn Greyhound bus. :(
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Passenger trains with the exception of the Acela don't have priority over other traffic (freight) so it's slow as crap usually.
This is incorrect.
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I have never riden a train outside Europe. But I've seen some movies about it. You're probably going to start in the very last car. Try to work your way to the front using an improvised battering ram, explosives, of whatever else you can muster. Don't eat the protein bars. You don't even wanna know what's in those. Good luck.
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:thumbs:
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I bet I've ridden amtrak 50 times over the last year. Probably the Train King of goEMAW.
It's fine -- relaxing enough, nice to be able to get up and move around. Especially the sweet, elite lounge car. But if you're supposed to get in at 3, i'd be shocked if you arrived before 4:30 or 5. I took it from Champaign to Chicago once a week and it wasn't uncommon for it to be more than an hour and a half late.
I would never take it from Chicago to KC.
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Dlew, you have any good train insider lingo?
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yes, the lingo
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Dlew, you have any good train insider lingo?
Not dlew but I can help here.
Highballed- Clear to depart
Frogged - Usually means you are F'd or can't move. Usually occurs when a train is blocked from moving by another train (You would need to "jump" over a train to find a way out)
Elephant Style - All Locomotives are facing the same direction
Foamer - A person who loves trains, will "foam" at the mouth in excitement when they see a train.
Going to beans - Lunch Break
Deadhead - Extra crews riding a train back to their "home" base
DP'd - Get your mind out of the gutter, it means "Distributed Power". Engines on the head and rear end.
FRED - "Flashing Rear End Device" Flashing can be replaced with the F word
"Add Darky no Sparky" is a term used to confirm that all handbrakes have been released as a train departs.
Reefer - Refrigerated inter-modal container or railcar.
Dope - Instructions for work to be performed, "Come up here and I'll dope you up"
Hump Yard - Cars are sorted by pushing them over a small hill and allowing gravity to take them to the designated track.
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elephant style lol
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took the SW Chief from KC to Chicago... Flew back... I'd do that again. Relaxing trip and the lounge car was good to drink and watch the fab Iowa scenery fly by.... took another from Seattle to Portland... It was fine but sat next to some extremely smelly man eating smelly food.
Probably take the KC to Hermann train at some point to do some wine drinking...wish there were more trains of the faster variety around.
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The problem with trains is they kill you much more frequently than passenger air travel.
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I've traveled several times by train and enjoyed all the trips. BYOB worked well. That said, on overnight trips it takes a couple of minutes to get used to the shower because the train rocks back and forth. Once you master the rhythm of that, you have it made. Looking forward to my next train trip.
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Seattle to Portland train was a great experience I would definitely do again. KC to Chicago? Well, who knows I won't rule it out but probably not. Acela corridor? Yes plz.
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Do trains have WiFi?
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Do trains have WiFi?
most do!
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The only train I have ridden was in France. I would like to do some kind of train ride vacation here....But where to? And how to convince Gooch to ride on a train for long hours?
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Man, I'd love to be able to honk the train horn
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I think a train ride could only be a little further than that Seattle-Portland route before a flight would make way more sense. That route, and I imagine ones like that between relatively close cities, is right in the sweet spot of where it's more comfortable than driving and doesn't take that much longer but also much better than flying as far as the stations being better located than airports and being able to walk over like 15 minutes before departure so you come out ahead on your total rough ridin'-with-travel time.
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The only train I have ridden was in France. I would like to do some kind of train ride vacation here....But where to? And how to convince Gooch to ride on a train for long hours?
Through the mountains
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What is the getting-through-security situation for trains?
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What is the getting-through-security situation for trains?
I didn't see one, but maybe they wanded KK before he got on. Or they just profile you at those little kiosks when you check in.
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7e/Seattle_King_Street_Station_Inside.jpg)
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What is the getting-through-security situation for trains?
None
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So are self-driving cars going to officially kill off American train travel in the next 20 or 30 years? I say yes.
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So are self-driving cars going to officially kill off American train travel in the next 20 or 30 years? I say yes.
i don't take a train because I don't want to have to "drive." I took a train because parking in Chicago is mega expensive and traffic sucks. If self driving cars are a sort of cure all for every reason riding in a car can possibly suck, then maybe.
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i can't wait to shinkansen punibrag in this b
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Did you guys hear the Freakanomics (I think?) podcast talking about parking being too cheap in big cities?
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So are self-driving cars going to officially kill off American train travel in the next 20 or 30 years? I say yes.
i don't take a train because I don't want to have to "drive." I took a train because parking in Chicago is mega expensive and traffic sucks. If self driving cars are a sort of cure all for every reason riding in a car can possibly suck, then maybe.
If you're concerned about parking, self-driving cars would be an advantage over trains. Drop you off at the door, park remotely, then return to pick you up. They'd also be faster, more personal, and more versatile when it comes to routes. About the only downside is the much more limited freedom to move around. But logically, it seems like self-driving cars will kill train travel for good. And it seems like self-driving cars are a real possibility in the next few decades.
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Won't super old balls people still want to travel by train?
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Cars are already a lot more convenient than trains, and trains haven't gone out of business yet.
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So are self-driving cars going to officially kill off American train travel in the next 20 or 30 years? I say yes.
i don't take a train because I don't want to have to "drive." I took a train because parking in Chicago is mega expensive and traffic sucks. If self driving cars are a sort of cure all for every reason riding in a car can possibly suck, then maybe.
If you're concerned about parking, self-driving cars would be an advantage over trains. Drop you off at the door, park remotely, then return to pick you up. They'd also be faster, more personal, and more versatile when it comes to routes. About the only downside is the much more limited freedom to move around. But logically, it seems like self-driving cars will kill train travel for good. And it seems like self-driving cars are a real possibility in the next few decades.
D-rew could really learn a thing or two about parking in Chicago from K-S-U-W.
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What about self driving trains :Wha:
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The self-driving cars could just not park at all and continue circling the block. Imagine a whole hotel full of people with their self driving cars just driving around unoccupied. What a world the future will be.
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What if instead of cars they are semis with enclosed trailers and have a full bar and dance floor and you can get so lit
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How bad does the booze industry want self driving cars?
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Also a few "sleeping" pods on the self driving semi, if you know what I mean :fatty:
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The self-driving cars could just not park at all and continue circling the block. Imagine a whole hotel full of people with their self driving cars just driving around unoccupied. What a world the future will be.
Maybe the cars could act as Uber cars while not in use by their owner.
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The self-driving cars could just not park at all and continue circling the block. Imagine a whole hotel full of people with their self driving cars just driving around unoccupied. What a world the future will be.
Maybe the cars could act as Uber cars while not in use by their owner.
Why not always have them act as Uber cars? Why have car owners?
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The self-driving cars could just not park at all and continue circling the block. Imagine a whole hotel full of people with their self driving cars just driving around unoccupied. What a world the future will be.
Maybe the cars could act as Uber cars while not in use by their owner.
Why not always have them act as Uber cars? Why have car owners?
exactly.
the future of cars is a network of self driving transporters with no private owners.
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I guess the car dealership industry is gonna go the way of the train industry.
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The self-driving cars could just not park at all and continue circling the block. Imagine a whole hotel full of people with their self driving cars just driving around unoccupied. What a world the future will be.
Maybe the cars could act as Uber cars while not in use by their owner.
Why not always have them act as Uber cars? Why have car owners?
exactly.
the future of cars is a network of self driving transporters with no private owners.
Well you might still want to have your own car so you don't have to pay for a ride every time and you know for sure it is going to be there when you want it and so you don't have to pay a super expensive fair when traveling long distance.
:dunno:
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Americans like to own crap
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How bad does the booze industry want self driving cars?
about as much as I do :D
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The self-driving cars could just not park at all and continue circling the block. Imagine a whole hotel full of people with their self driving cars just driving around unoccupied. What a world the future will be.
Maybe the cars could act as Uber cars while not in use by their owner.
Why not always have them act as Uber cars? Why have car owners?
exactly.
the future of cars is a network of self driving transporters with no private owners.
Well you might still want to have your own car so you don't have to pay for a ride every time and you know for sure it is going to be there when you want it and so you don't have to pay a super expensive fair when traveling long distance.
:dunno:
well i might want a socialist utopia
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The self-driving cars could just not park at all and continue circling the block. Imagine a whole hotel full of people with their self driving cars just driving around unoccupied. What a world the future will be.
Maybe the cars could act as Uber cars while not in use by their owner.
Why not always have them act as Uber cars? Why have car owners?
exactly.
the future of cars is a network of self driving transporters with no private owners.
Well you might still want to have your own car so you don't have to pay for a ride every time and you know for sure it is going to be there when you want it and so you don't have to pay a super expensive fair when traveling long distance.
:dunno:
well i might want a socialist utopia
Are you suggesting that we pay for the Uber cars through taxes?
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The self-driving cars could just not park at all and continue circling the block. Imagine a whole hotel full of people with their self driving cars just driving around unoccupied. What a world the future will be.
Maybe the cars could act as Uber cars while not in use by their owner.
Why not always have them act as Uber cars? Why have car owners?
exactly.
the future of cars is a network of self driving transporters with no private owners.
Well you might still want to have your own car so you don't have to pay for a ride every time and you know for sure it is going to be there when you want it and so you don't have to pay a super expensive fair when traveling long distance.
:dunno:
well i might want a socialist utopia
Are you suggesting that we pay for the Uber cars through taxes?
if you mean, "they will be free for everybody!" then yes?
if you mean walmart will buy uber and then google will buy walmart and then merge with apple and BP and be elected president, then yes.
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somebody just needs to invent teleporting already.
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This thread is making me want to ride a train somewhere.
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Americans like to own crap
I was patiently waiting for someone to point this out, and I'm glad it was you lib7. :cheers:
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Cars are already a lot more convenient than trains, and trains haven't gone out of business yet.
In some ways they are. Trains still have a few advantages (parking in urban areas, not having to drive, etc.). My point is that self-driving cars seem to kill off those last remaining advantages.
It's weird that California is investing so much in high speed rail. It would be much more forward thinking to invest in this California company's forward thinking, instead. http://www.google.com/selfdrivingcar/ (http://www.google.com/selfdrivingcar/)
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High speed rail could have a future if it can get to a point that it's more convenient than airlines.
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High speed rail would still be faster than
driving a car riding in a self driving car long distance, wouldn't it?
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A self-driving car wouldn't have done KK any good.
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Cars are already a lot more convenient than trains, and trains haven't gone out of business yet.
In some ways they are. Trains still have a few advantages (parking in urban areas, not having to drive, etc.). My point is that self-driving cars seem to kill off those last remaining advantages.
It's weird that California is investing so much in high speed rail. It would be much more forward thinking to invest in this California company's forward thinking, instead. http://www.google.com/selfdrivingcar/ (http://www.google.com/selfdrivingcar/)
avoidance of traffic is the biggest advantage trains currently (sometimes) have (and the first one dLew mentioned). As oil prices rise, it COULD get relatively cheaper than driving and flying. self-driving cars probably won't alleviate traffic much and will probably be more like uber as someone alluded to. hoping the hyperloop works out though.
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Cars are already a lot more convenient than trains, and trains haven't gone out of business yet.
In some ways they are. Trains still have a few advantages (parking in urban areas, not having to drive, etc.). My point is that self-driving cars seem to kill off those last remaining advantages.
It's weird that California is investing so much in high speed rail. It would be much more forward thinking to invest in this California company's forward thinking, instead. http://www.google.com/selfdrivingcar/ (http://www.google.com/selfdrivingcar/)
avoidance of traffic is the biggest advantage trains currently (sometimes) have (and the first one dLew mentioned). As oil prices rise, it COULD get relatively cheaper than driving and flying. self-driving cars probably won't alleviate traffic much and will probably be more like uber as someone alluded to. hoping the hyperloop works out though.
I disagree strongly on the traffic point. That's the biggest potential advantage of self-driving cars. They will theoretically be able to network together to make traffic much more efficient and optimize routes in real time. It will basically be like everyone is riding in one collective conveyance, like a train, except that train can go a million different places at the same time. I think we're headed for something like what was envisioned in Minority Report.
Regarding speed over long distances. I think that, too, will ultimately be negligible once you factor in the travel at your destination. Besides, California isn't building a cross-country train. The main "high speed" line will be a few hundred miles.
The obvious huge downside of all of this is that for it to work, you can't have human drivers on the same roads rough ridin' everything up. Maybe there will be a proliferation of special driving tracks for the enthusiasts.
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Cars are already a lot more convenient than trains, and trains haven't gone out of business yet.
In some ways they are. Trains still have a few advantages (parking in urban areas, not having to drive, etc.). My point is that self-driving cars seem to kill off those last remaining advantages.
It's weird that California is investing so much in high speed rail. It would be much more forward thinking to invest in this California company's forward thinking, instead. http://www.google.com/selfdrivingcar/ (http://www.google.com/selfdrivingcar/)
avoidance of traffic is the biggest advantage trains currently (sometimes) have (and the first one dLew mentioned). As oil prices rise, it COULD get relatively cheaper than driving and flying. self-driving cars probably won't alleviate traffic much and will probably be more like uber as someone alluded to. hoping the hyperloop works out though.
I disagree strongly on the traffic point. That's the biggest potential advantage of self-driving cars. They will theoretically be able to network together to make traffic much more efficient and optimize routes in real time. It will basically be like everyone is riding in one collective conveyance, like a train, except that train can go a million different places at the same time. I think we're headed for something like what was envisioned in Minority Report.
Regarding speed over long distances. I think that, too, will ultimately be negligible once you factor in the travel at your destination. Besides, California isn't building a cross-country train. The main "high speed" line will be a few hundred miles.
The obvious huge downside of all of this is that for it to work, you can't have human drivers on the same roads rough ridin' everything up. Maybe there will be a proliferation of special driving tracks for the enthusiasts.
It's going to take a long time to change the infrastructure to weed out human drivers and allow the networking thing.
Can self-driving cars drive on regular roads or do they need special guidance stuff in the roads?
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Cars are already a lot more convenient than trains, and trains haven't gone out of business yet.
In some ways they are. Trains still have a few advantages (parking in urban areas, not having to drive, etc.). My point is that self-driving cars seem to kill off those last remaining advantages.
It's weird that California is investing so much in high speed rail. It would be much more forward thinking to invest in this California company's forward thinking, instead. http://www.google.com/selfdrivingcar/ (http://www.google.com/selfdrivingcar/)
avoidance of traffic is the biggest advantage trains currently (sometimes) have (and the first one dLew mentioned). As oil prices rise, it COULD get relatively cheaper than driving and flying. self-driving cars probably won't alleviate traffic much and will probably be more like uber as someone alluded to. hoping the hyperloop works out though.
I disagree strongly on the traffic point. That's the biggest potential advantage of self-driving cars. They will theoretically be able to network together to make traffic much more efficient and optimize routes in real time. It will basically be like everyone is riding in one collective conveyance, like a train, except that train can go a million different places at the same time. I think we're headed for something like what was envisioned in Minority Report.
Regarding speed over long distances. I think that, too, will ultimately be negligible once you factor in the travel at your destination. Besides, California isn't building a cross-country train. The main "high speed" line will be a few hundred miles.
The obvious huge downside of all of this is that for it to work, you can't have human drivers on the same roads rough ridin' everything up. Maybe there will be a proliferation of special driving tracks for the enthusiasts.
It's going to take a long time to change the infrastructure to weed out human drivers and allow the networking thing.
Can self-driving cars drive on regular roads or do they need special guidance stuff in the roads?
The ones being tested now drive on regular roads and use GPS/Camera's/Sensors to get around.
Which brings me to something I have never thought of. If the self driving car is the first to arrive at a stoplight how does it know to stop? Does it have a camera that specifically looks for stoplights?
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Probably. I've read that the biggest complaint about people who live around where the cars are tested is that they a TOO cautious, causing some traffic issues with human drivers.
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Yes, it must detect the stoplight. Most likely, to begin with at least, the self-driving mode is only going to be allowed on highways.
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I read a projection that by 2030, only 10% of cars on the road will be self driving.
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How much are these self-driving cars going to cost?
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IMO the first commercial use of self driving cars will be in long haul trucking. Think a convoy of 10 trucks all equipped with self driving technology driving from LA to CHI.
There will probably be 1 person in the lead truck to manage the convoy and correct any issues that may pop up.
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california will never complete the LA-SF high speed train route
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IMO the first commercial use of self driving cars will be in long haul trucking. Think a convoy of 10 trucks all equipped with self driving technology driving from LA to CHI.
There will probably be 1 person in the lead truck to manage the convoy and correct any issues that may pop up.
most likely two people, DOT hours of service issues will necessitate that.
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Probably. I've read that the biggest complaint about people who live around where the cars are tested is that they a TOO cautious, causing some traffic issues with human drivers.
Baby steps. Give it a few decades... Drones were science fiction 20 years ago.
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california will never complete the LA-SF high speed train route
Doubtful. But we'll spend a LOT of money on it. That was one of the few redeeming qualities of True Detective 2: centering it around a big steaming pot or real life graft and corruption.
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I have to use a free Hyatt night by December and don't have any scenarios currently with which to use it so I'm thinking of taking the train to Vancouver and staying there for a Saturday afternoon and Sunday day.
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I have to use a free Hyatt night by December and don't have any scenarios currently with which to use it so I'm thinking of taking the train to Vancouver and staying there for a Saturday afternoon and Sunday day.
That sounds great.
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the transition between self driving cars and people driven cars will be a complete rough ridin' mess
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In the future there is going to be an amusement park where people are in old-timey costumes and you can drive a car....uh, well I guess they already have that at World's of Fun...so like that but with cars we would consider modern.
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the transition between self driving cars and people driven cars will be a complete rough ridin' mess
Yup. So is capitalism. It's a really messy process but somehow it all works out for the better eventually. Drones are a big mess right now with manned aviation - it'll eventually work itself out. I'm not saying this will happen tomorrow, but this is where we're headed.
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the transition between self driving cars and people driven cars will be a complete rough ridin' mess
Yup. So is capitalism. It's a really messy process but somehow it all works out for the better eventually. Drones are a big mess right now with manned aviation - it'll eventually work itself out. I'm not saying this will happen tomorrow, but this is where we're headed.
Yeah. I agree with everything you're saying, but even in 50 years, there will still be significant portions of the country driving their own cars. How far are we away from a point where car companies stop manufacturing man driven cars? 30 years as a super conservative estimate? Tack on another 20 years or so until the dinosaurs die out.
I'd be surprised if we reached true traffic efficiency like you discussed in my lifetime.
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the transition between self driving cars and people driven cars will be a complete rough ridin' mess
Yup. So is capitalism. It's a really messy process but somehow it all works out for the better eventually. Drones are a big mess right now with manned aviation - it'll eventually work itself out. I'm not saying this will happen tomorrow, but this is where we're headed.
Yeah. I agree with everything you're saying, but even in 50 years, there will still be significant portions of the country driving their own cars. How far are we away from a point where car companies stop manufacturing man driven cars? 30 years as a super conservative estimate? Tack on another 20 years or so until the dinosaurs die out.
I'd be surprised if we reached true traffic efficiency like you discussed in my lifetime.
people will still be driving cars 100 years from now. SPACE CARS :lol:
am i serious? only time will tell. but maybe it will be like that oscar willis movie, the fifth element
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We should go to all self-driving cars before we transition to space cars, so that there is never a people-driven space car. Didn't you see how many wrecks oscar Willis got in?
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We should go to all self-driving cars before we transition to space cars, so that there is never a people-driven space car. Didn't you see how many wrecks oscar Willis got in?
Don't you want to drive a space car, though?
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Corbin Dallas didn't drive a space car you idiots
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That movie kicked so much ass. Chris Tucker. :lol:
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Corbin Dallas didn't drive a space car you idiots
clearly an air car
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thought we might have been talking about armaggedon. nope. i have a new movie to watch. liveblog tonite?
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Well you are in for a huge treat
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easily the best, funnest sci fi movie in the world
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And Leeloo :fatty:
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OK, whatever, space car, air car...I just said the term that was already in use ITT.
thought we might have been talking about armaggedon. nope. i have a new movie to watch. liveblog tonite?
Wait, are you saying you have never heard of the Fifth Element?
Don't you want to drive a space car, though?
It would be irresponsible of me to advocate for person-driven space cars (or air cars) just because I personally would like to drive one when I know it would cause more fatalities overall than only self-driven space/air cars.
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And Leeloo :fatty:
:love:
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OK, whatever, space car, air car...I just said the term that was already in use ITT.
thought we might have been talking about armaggedon. nope. i have a new movie to watch. liveblog tonite?
Wait, are you saying you have never heard of the Fifth Element?
now i have.
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almost the best gary oldman you can get
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and bilbo being bilbo. what a great movie
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almost the best gary oldman you can get
Gary Oldman is another guy that looks different in every movie.
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almost the best gary oldman you can get
Gary Oldman is another guy that looks different in every movie.
method actor
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gary oldman is why i am interested in this flick.
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like you've never seen him before! just a spectacular gary oldman!
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This thread has it all. Train tips/lingo, sky vs. space cars, gary oldman.
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I don't know if this movie's on all the time or if it's just a coincidence.
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi709.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fww92%2FTommyRoanoke%2FIMAG0764_zpsj10dicuk.jpg&hash=b0eb5f9301fc59c1c9e44d82fc345f061751098e) (http://s709.photobucket.com/user/TommyRoanoke/media/IMAG0764_zpsj10dicuk.jpg.html)
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Wait what time will that be on Central time? @NickRussell
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Wait what time will that be on Central time? @NickRussell
I originally had something in my post about that but I'm not even sure. Like yeah, we're 2 timezones away, but I think tv is separately like 3 hours behind so that shows are on around the same time of day they're supposed to be. So maybe 4:30 central/mexico?
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That's in 13 minutes!
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It's on at 5:30pm Central.
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It's on at 5:30pm Central.
Nick's mind is blown.
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Crap, stupid AT&T. Why did it show me the wrong time zone?
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OK, whatever, space car, air car...I just said the term that was already in use ITT.
thought we might have been talking about armaggedon. nope. i have a new movie to watch. liveblog tonite?
Wait, are you saying you have never heard of the Fifth Element?
now i have.
I am so excited for you! :popcorn:
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we snuffed out a movie ksuw likes! :emawkid:
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The problem with trains is they kill you much more frequently than passenger air travel.
I'd avoid car travel
"Drivers or passengers in cars or light trucks faced a fatality risk of 7.3 per billion passenger-miles"
"The overall fatality rate for long-haul train service...excluding pedestrians and others not on trains...fatality rate is approximately 0.15 per billion passenger miles."
"commercial aviation was the safest mode of travel in the United States, with 0.07 fatalities per billion passenger miles"
http://journalistsresource.org/studies/environment/transportation/comparing-fatality-risks-united-states-transportation-across-modes-time
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Thanks phil, that's pretty crazy. Stepping on a train is like playing roulette.
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we snuffed out a movie ksuw likes! :emawkid:
You should check out the movie thread. I like lots of movies!
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you should post about those ones! :excited:
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unless we transition to a socialist utopia at some point, it will take like 50 years for all cars to be self-driving and it will be a complete disaster with liability, fault, etc, when they get into accidents with human drivers. crap like this takes forever. consider that it's been like 45 years since they invented airbags and they only became legally compulsory 17 years ago and there are still plenty of people driving around older cars without them.
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Is K-S-U-W on the self-driving car train (lol) b/c he's still mad about that ticket I remember him posting a bunch about?
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self driving cars already interact with people driven cars. It will not be a complete disaster because the accident rate for self-driven cars will be so low.
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oh ok, it'll be fine then
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Gooch's car is self-stopping.
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Gooch's car is self-stopping.
Yeah it's really annoying when we are backing out and it thinks our steep driveway is an object behind us.
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So, back to trains... I'll tell you what, this ride has been pretty enjoyable... I tweeted lots of stuff. If you can't find my twitter acct then you don't follow gE very well.
Will definitely "ride the rails" again. Also, we're only around 30 min behind schedule.
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So, back to trains... I'll tell you what, this ride has been pretty enjoyable... I tweeted lots of stuff. If you can't find my twitter acct then you don't follow gE very well.
Will definitely "ride the rails" again. Also, we're only around 30 min behind schedule.
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Good twittering, enjoy Chicago
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So, back to trains... I'll tell you what, this ride has been pretty enjoyable... I tweeted lots of stuff. If you can't find my twitter acct then you don't follow gE very well.
Will definitely "ride the rails" again. Also, we're only around 30 min behind schedule.
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please pm me your twitter. i'm interested in reading.
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@metalhead so did you watch the 5th element yet or what?
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i didn't get a pm on friday night
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i didn't get a pm on friday night
Lets do it this Friday!
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It seems like it is so hard to figure out a route on the Amtrak website. Like, even though I can see that these two stops are on the same route, they say there are not available trains to get from one to the other.
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What stops
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What stops
Well I really want to get from Newton to Vail, but they are on different lines, so I need to go Newton ---> Raton, NM. ---> Vail but apparently you can't get from Raton to Vail even though they are both on the....oh now I see that the green line on the map means "connecting services" which might not be a train at all. Well I guess that just means eff you if you want to get from KS to CO (except the southeast corner).
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Amtrak does busses too, which are witb from what I hear
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What stops
Well I really want to get from Newton to Vail, but they are on different lines, so I need to go Newton ---> Raton, NM. ---> Vail but apparently you can't get from Raton to Vail even though they are both on the....oh now I see that the green line on the map means "connecting services" which might not be a train at all. Well I guess that just means eff you if you want to get from KS to CO (except the southeast corner).
Yes, getting from KS to CO is almost impossible. We looked at it for our next trip and it was like 23 hours long and cost $175. Nope.
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What stops
Well I really want to get from Newton to Vail, but they are on different lines, so I need to go Newton ---> Raton, NM. ---> Vail but apparently you can't get from Raton to Vail even though they are both on the....oh now I see that the green line on the map means "connecting services" which might not be a train at all. Well I guess that just means eff you if you want to get from KS to CO (except the southeast corner).
Yes, getting from KS to CO is almost impossible. We looked at it for our next trip and it was like 23 hours long and cost $175. Nope.
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Yeah, that's ridiculous. I guess we will be driving.
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You guys go on lots of fun trips
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You guys go on lots of fun trips
No kids. :Woohoo:
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Interesting if accurate
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It seems like it is so hard to figure out a route on the Amtrak website. Like, even though I can see that these two stops are on the same route, they say there are not available trains to get from one to the other.
We are not taking a god damn train.
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It seems like it is so hard to figure out a route on the Amtrak website. Like, even though I can see that these two stops are on the same route, they say there are not available trains to get from one to the other.
We are not taking a god damn train.
It would be a lot easier to convince you if we didn't have to take a crappy bus for part of the trip.
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Can you get from KS to Disney World on a train?
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It seems like it is so hard to figure out a route on the Amtrak website. Like, even though I can see that these two stops are on the same route, they say there are not available trains to get from one to the other.
We are not taking a god damn train.
It would be a lot easier to convince you if we didn't have to take a crappy bus for part of the trip.
Again, we are not taking a god damn train!
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It seems like it is so hard to figure out a route on the Amtrak website. Like, even though I can see that these two stops are on the same route, they say there are not available trains to get from one to the other.
We are not taking a god damn train.
It would be a lot easier to convince you if we didn't have to take a crappy bus for part of the trip.
Again, we are not taking a god damn train!
I am going to take a train trip sometime in my life. You can join me or not.
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I bet the Disney trip would take 3 days to get there
Gonna win 'em all!
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Can you get from KS to Disney World on a train?
Yes, but the only Monorail stop is in Eudora.
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I bet the Disney trip would take 3 days to get there
Gonna win 'em all!
That sounds great. I would like to make a couple of stops along the way.
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I bet the Disney trip would take 3 days to get there
Gonna win 'em all!
That sounds great. I would like to make a couple of stops along the way.
since you are so interested in shitty nostalgic travel are you going to start commuting to work in a god damn horse and buggy.
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I bet the Disney trip would take 3 days to get there
Gonna win 'em all!
That sounds great. I would like to make a couple of stops along the way.
since you are so interested in shitty nostalgic travel are you going to start commuting to work in a god damn horse and buggy.
No, but I would take a train/subway if we had one.
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I would be all over a train to work
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I'm back to looking at a vancouver train run to use my hyatt night before december.
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I would be all over a train to work
Very convenient. Not comfortable in the least.
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I hope I never encounter one of these self-driving cyberdyne cars.
http://www.cnet.com/news/googles-big-new-idea-lets-make-self-driving-cars-drive-like-humans/
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@metalhead so did you watch the 5th element yet or what?
I'm not watching some dogshit oscar Willis movie (pro tip: oscar Willis is dogshit) without my liveblog-hate-watching it with my bros.
i didn't get a pm on friday night
Lets do it this Friday!
Pick a god damn weekday, unless we're IRL binging and watching together.
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i think the weekday picking burden is on you.
also it's not streaming currently so participants will have to "acquire" it in some fashion
also you're totally wrong about bwills
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Yeah metal head is so totally wrong about this. Have fun hate blogging it while the rest of us are carnal loveblogging it.
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Official Tastemaker Stance: 5th Element is the absolute rough ridin' jam.
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This might MIGHT be the film that changes metalhead's whole outlook on oscar Willis.
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Did you not even read the parts about Gary Goldman or Ian Holm?
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Good god I think I'm being Dlew level trolled
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good god.
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Yippee kai aye, mother rough rider.
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i don't remember 5th element at all. mondays through fridays are way better for me than sat/sun (@Stevesie60)
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http://www.kake.com/home/headlines/Amtrak-train-derails-in-central-Vermont-no-word-on-injuries-330684791.html?utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook_KAKE-TV
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In other news thousands of planes landed safely today.
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Saw that the OP wondered about "rising" on trains. Have done that several times. Just be careful. Get up and rise, despite what the tracks do, and shower, etc. You will survive, as I have after many train trips.
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So want to hear a semi semi K-State related train story?!? Okay hold on to your britches here, this is exciting.
Starting on January 1st of 2016 all trains are supposed to be equipped with PTC(Positive Train Control) which is a safeguard to prevent trains from running signals or going to fast etc etc. Starting on Jan 1st if trains are not equipped with PTC they will not be allowed to go over 30 mph. Well this is not going to happen for a variety of reasons, still way to many kinks in the system.
What does Carl Ice (BNSF CEO and Famed Benefactor of the Carl and Carol Ice Family Video Board) do? He sends OBAMA(actually the NTSB or something) a sternly worded letter saying that he will not let his railroad break the Law and Its gonna really suck in February when power plants start running out of coal and grandma ain't got no heat due to the gridlock on the rail lines.
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24-hour broPAK in Vancouver next weekend. Taking the train up Saturday morning. $54 each. The times coming back Sunday sucked, so we're flying back. To be continued in the credit card thread.
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https://twitter.com/TrimGoEMAW/status/663016232665284608
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crap that's today?
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crap that's today?
Yeah, that's why it was critical to get that whole Sergio Vancouver preview out in chat last night.
I'll periscope again here in a minute.
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Rode the train from KC to St. Louis last week, and was reminded of how tricky it is to take a piss on a moving train.
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Rode the train from KC to St. Louis last week, and was reminded of how tricky it is to take a piss on a moving train.
no harder than at 2am when you leave the ville i would imagine
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It was alright. The bad person canadian customs guy that concluded the train ride kind of sour'd the experience.
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Drove by this guy at 6:00AM this morning, coming back from Pagosa Springs.
http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/03/14/470354891/amtrak-train-derails-near-dodge-city-kansas-injuring-some-20-passengers (http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/03/14/470354891/amtrak-train-derails-near-dodge-city-kansas-injuring-some-20-passengers)
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how are things in pasoga?
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Lovely, thanks for asking PC
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On the train to Champaign right now! :woot:
Just passed through Rick Daris' boyhood home of Harvey, IL
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On the train to Champaign right now! :woot:
Just passed through Rick Daris' boyhood home of Harvey, IL
:surprised:
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On the train to Champaign right now! :woot:
Just passed through Rick Daris' boyhood home of Harvey, IL
:surprised:
Rugby game cancelled so nothing but paking on the agenda. Just ate at Maize
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On the train to Champaign right now! :woot:
Just passed through Rick Daris' boyhood home of Harvey, IL
:surprised:
Rugby game cancelled so nothing but paking on the agenda. Just ate at Maize
How long you in the area?
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Just the night
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https://twitter.com/TrimGoEMAW/status/833484780024918016
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https://twitter.com/TrimGoEMAW/status/833484780024918016
For me, yes.
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Supergreen
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I will rise again in late July.
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The train is great if not still waking up and/or hungover. Drank all day, hopped on pretty easy, bought many drinks and found the dining car this time that has really comfortable seats and a better atmosphere with other trainPAK'rs. There's a canadian trash bar right across from the station that we were able to knock out a few last beers at before realizing I was 20 minutes off on when the train departed and had to hustle over.
Canadian customs guard assholes aren't a train thing. The guy at the airport when we flew in was shitty just like the last trip's train guy was. The train guy going out was originally dickish but then when it came out that I was there on a free reward night and flight, we started talking points and it was all good.
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I think I'm done rising on trains for a while.
https://twitter.com/jonhumbert/status/942886387384139776
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I think I'm done rising on trains for a while.
https://twitter.com/jonhumbert/status/942886387384139776
Yeah pretty scary for daily train risers
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how does that happen going 50 mph over the speed limit? robots?
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how does that happen going 50 mph over the speed limit? robots?
most likely human error due to fatigue/distraction.
bill was passed in 2008 that mandated electronic backup system to automatically slow/stop trains in overspeed situations (passenger and hazardous material trains only). congress gave until 2015 to get systems installed, and i think has since extended the deadline to 2018.
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Wasn't this the first run for this train, though? How does a new train not have up-to-date technology?
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Wasn't this the first run for this train, though?
i did not see that
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Wasn't this the first run for this train, though? How does a new train not have up-to-date technology?
the train has it, but my understanding is that EVERY train operating on a given line has to have it, otherwise they don't use it.
It's really inexcusable that this happened, on the very first run of a new route that they've been testing for weeks or longer.
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This is exactly why I only ride underground trains
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Seems like you'd be overseeing everything real close to make sure nothing was screwed up on the first run ever.
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trains are much safer than cars
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100% accident rate isn't looking too good.
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trains are much safer than cars
Zack Willhoite and Jim Hamre, two longtime rail advocates, were among those killed in the Monday derailment of an Amtrak train near Olympia.
Willhoite was a member of the enthusiasts’ group All Aboard Washington, and he was riding the Amtrak Cascades 501 with Jim Hamre, a fellow member.
Lloyd Flem, a friend for 35 years and vice president of the group, said Willhoite and Hamre were also interested in rail policy — to promote rail, ferries and buses as alternatives to single-occupancy cars.
https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/transportation/pierce-transit-employee-identified-as-victim-of-amtrak-train-derailment/
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what if this was a hit job from big car? :surprised:
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trains are much safer than cars
Zack Willhoite and Jim Hamre, two longtime rail advocates, were among those killed in the Monday derailment of an Amtrak train near Olympia.
Willhoite was a member of the enthusiasts’ group All Aboard Washington, and he was riding the Amtrak Cascades 501 with Jim Hamre, a fellow member.
Lloyd Flem, a friend for 35 years and vice president of the group, said Willhoite and Hamre were also interested in rail policy — to promote rail, ferries and buses as alternatives to single-occupancy cars.
https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/transportation/pierce-transit-employee-identified-as-victim-of-amtrak-train-derailment/
I wonder if Lloyd Flem is still going to be a train advocate now.
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When you google All Aboard Washington now, the images are of the train wreckage.
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trains are much safer than cars
Zack Willhoite and Jim Hamre, two longtime rail advocates, were among those killed in the Monday derailment of an Amtrak train near Olympia.
Willhoite was a member of the enthusiasts’ group All Aboard Washington, and he was riding the Amtrak Cascades 501 with Jim Hamre, a fellow member.
Lloyd Flem, a friend for 35 years and vice president of the group, said Willhoite and Hamre were also interested in rail policy — to promote rail, ferries and buses as alternatives to single-occupancy cars.
https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/transportation/pierce-transit-employee-identified-as-victim-of-amtrak-train-derailment/
How many people get to die doing what they love? An incredible gift.
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When you google All Aboard Washington now, the images are of the train wreckage.
They should probably remove the story just a little bit down about how the new service is going to improve on time performance.
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This train did not have the mandated positive train control system. It was scheduled to be installed next year. Again how does a brand new train not have the latest safety systems?
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I wonder if Lloyd Flem is still going to be a train advocate now.
Turns out he's pretty old, and featured here:
https://twitter.com/TedfordKING5/status/943193331223244800
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OV-wiI_XXI4
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How many people get to die doing what they love? An incredible gift.
"Incapacitated" on the day you were originally to be driven from Seattle to Portland? Rest easy, and hop on the new 10-minute-faster train the next day, while enjoying our comfortable toilets as you roll through the PNW at 80 mph!
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Good articles summing everything up to date.
http://www.seattlepi.com/local/transportation/article/Amtrak-Derailment-NTSB-Investigation-12442203.php
https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/train-derailment-near-olympia-officials-pushed-aggressive-timeline-before-safety-technology-was-ready/
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https://twitter.com/seattlepi/status/944255654767792129
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What are fatality rates for trains compared to cars and airplanes?
Rode the train twice on scout trips to Philmont (Southwest Chief) KC to Raton NM. A fun experience if you ignore the delays.
Tom
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Just about took out half of the GOP.
Edit: Mods move this to the Alex Jones conspiracy thread. :excited: