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Title: You can pretty much pin the refugee crisis in Syria and Libya . . . into Europe
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 03, 2015, 07:59:34 AM
on the backs of the Obama Administration and Hillary Clinton and their willing accomplices.   

Of course, one could logically ask if this two horrific situations weren't done on purpose to create the refugee problem. 

There's still ongoing discussion in alternative foreign media circles that the U.S. is providing clandestine support to ISIS, and the U.S. absurd policy of trying to find "moderate" Islamic Fundamentalist fighters for Syria is well documented.

What does Sharia Law Hipsterism look like? 



Title: Re: You can pretty much pin the refugee crisis in Syria and Libya . . . into Europe
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 03, 2015, 08:01:30 AM
Man with your new Ray Ban Clubmasters you'll be able to see your six wives better in the bright sunlight.

Title: Re: You can pretty much pin the refugee crisis in Syria and Libya . . . into Europe
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 03, 2015, 08:05:24 AM
What do you think?  Should I wear the Fred Perry or the Oak jacket to the stoning?

Title: Re: You can pretty much pin the refugee crisis in Syria and Libya . . . into Europe
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 03, 2015, 08:45:23 AM
Have you seen the new line of veils from American Apparel?
Title: Re: You can pretty much pin the refugee crisis in Syria and Libya . . . into Europe
Post by: puniraptor on September 03, 2015, 11:22:48 AM
i listened to a cute story on npr about iceland offering to take in 50 refugees and then it sparked a grassroots movement of dozens of icelandic families offerring to take refugees into their own homes. iceland is pretty great.
Title: Re: You can pretty much pin the refugee crisis in Syria and Libya . . . into Europe
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 03, 2015, 11:55:14 AM
i listened to a cute story on npr about iceland offering to take in 50 refugees and then it sparked a grassroots movement of dozens of icelandic families offerring to take refugees into their own homes. iceland is pretty great.

That is a fantastic story, what isn't a fantastic story is why these people are refugee's to begin with.   But as I've said so many times, this administration has gotten a pass on this by the majority.   If you stop and think about it, this is getting very close to Nixon's illegal bombing of Cambodia which ultimately brought about the control of the country by the Khmer Rouge.  The only difference is, it's not B-52's, it's being done through clandestine measures and through proxies.   At some point it is reasonable to ask if this isn't being done on purpose in order to produce the events as they are unfolding.   As this migration continues, there's going to be even more incidents like occurred on the train, or worse.   The "no go" sections of Europe are growing larger.   



Title: Re: You can pretty much pin the refugee crisis in Syria and Libya . . . into Europe
Post by: puniraptor on September 03, 2015, 12:09:39 PM
You think is a concerted effort to eff Europe by destabilizing the mE.c?
Title: Re: You can pretty much pin the refugee crisis in Syria and Libya . . . into Europe
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 03, 2015, 12:35:40 PM
You think is a concerted effort to eff Europe by destabilizing the mE.c?

It's a plausible theory that's being played out in reality.

Title: Re: You can pretty much pin the refugee crisis in Syria and Libya . . . into Europe
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 03, 2015, 12:40:51 PM
Oh and puni, get your white board or media of choice ready because you may just get a chance to plus/delta and/or similarities/differences the crap out of Sharia Law vs Modern Western Christian Beliefs on a first world landscape in the not-so-distant future.

Enjoy my friend, if you could then pie chart your findings that would be fantastic.



Title: Re: You can pretty much pin the refugee crisis in Syria and Libya . . . into Europe
Post by: star seed 7 on September 03, 2015, 12:50:40 PM
Is japan under sharia law?  :surprised:
Title: Re: You can pretty much pin the refugee crisis in Syria and Libya . . . into Europe
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 03, 2015, 12:53:46 PM
Is japan under sharia law?  :surprised:

Stupid
Title: Re: You can pretty much pin the refugee crisis in Syria and Libya . . . into Europe
Post by: star seed 7 on September 03, 2015, 01:28:52 PM
Is japan under sharia law?  :surprised:

Stupid

 :lol:
Title: Re: You can pretty much pin the refugee crisis in Syria and Libya . . . into Europe
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 03, 2015, 01:36:01 PM
Weird, like in a white panel van "free candy" kind of weird.

Sad.
Title: Re: You can pretty much pin the refugee crisis in Syria and Libya . . . into Europe
Post by: star seed 7 on September 03, 2015, 01:36:41 PM
 :lol:
Title: Re: You can pretty much pin the refugee crisis in Syria and Libya . . . into Europe
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 03, 2015, 01:44:10 PM
You done hijacking the thread?

Title: Re: You can pretty much pin the refugee crisis in Syria and Libya . . . into Europe
Post by: puniraptor on September 03, 2015, 01:57:08 PM
dax do you have a map of the shinto law no go zones on mainland japan?
Title: Re: You can pretty much pin the refugee crisis in Syria and Libya . . . into Europe
Post by: star seed 7 on September 03, 2015, 02:37:03 PM
 :lol:
Title: Re: You can pretty much pin the refugee crisis in Syria and Libya . . . into Europe
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 03, 2015, 04:07:32 PM
Shinto essentially has no dogma, no "scriptures".  There is no literal-ism in Shinto.

Guys, your analogy sucks.   Sad how the resident prog-libs trying to make jokes over a horrible situation created by this Progressive Democrat Administration.   Sad.




Title: Re: You can pretty much pin the refugee crisis in Syria and Libya . . . into Europe
Post by: star seed 7 on September 03, 2015, 04:08:56 PM
What analogy?
Title: Re: You can pretty much pin the refugee crisis in Syria and Libya . . . into Europe
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 03, 2015, 04:11:24 PM
What analogy?

Radical Islam to Shintoism.

Call it a comparison, or implication, pretty much the same thing.

It's just babies washing up on the shores, because of a humanitarian crisis created by this administration and its proxies.   Hilarious.

Title: Re: You can pretty much pin the refugee crisis in Syria and Libya . . . into Europe
Post by: star seed 7 on September 03, 2015, 04:12:45 PM
I think dax may be "out of the loop" on this one puni
Title: Re: You can pretty much pin the refugee crisis in Syria and Libya . . . into Europe
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 03, 2015, 04:19:03 PM
I think dax may be "out of the loop" on this one puni

Just so incredibly weird.
Title: Re: You can pretty much pin the refugee crisis in Syria and Libya . . . into Europe
Post by: star seed 7 on September 03, 2015, 04:34:29 PM
Poor guy  :frown:
Title: Re: You can pretty much pin the refugee crisis in Syria and Libya . . . into Europe
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 03, 2015, 04:53:37 PM
Explain
Title: Re: You can pretty much pin the refugee crisis in Syria and Libya . . . into Europe
Post by: puniraptor on September 03, 2015, 04:58:31 PM
will i be allowed to worship my own ancestors or do i need to find some japanese ancestors to worship tshirt fan style?
Title: Re: You can pretty much pin the refugee crisis in Syria and Libya . . . into Europe
Post by: star seed 7 on September 03, 2015, 05:03:31 PM
You're not a combofan'r so I'll let you off the hook bud. A certain poster on this bbs may or may not be in a clandestine top secret position that might or might not be relocating to a certain region that may or may not have been mentioned in this thread.

Also puni is a rabid shindoite
Title: Re: You can pretty much pin the refugee crisis in Syria and Libya . . . into Europe
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 03, 2015, 05:53:13 PM
You're not a combofan'r so I'll let you off the hook bud. A certain poster on this bbs may or may not be in a clandestine top secret position that might or might not be relocating to a certain region that may or may not have been mentioned in this thread.

Also puni is a rabid shindoite

I'm not a combofan?  Weird.

Lets hope whoever relocates does their job better then you post.  Damn.

Title: Re: You can pretty much pin the refugee crisis in Syria and Libya . . . into Europe
Post by: star seed 7 on September 03, 2015, 06:04:29 PM
That was the best cryptic/vague daxian tribute post I could ever do  :frown:
Title: Re: You can pretty much pin the refugee crisis in Syria and Libya . . . into Europe
Post by: Tobias on September 03, 2015, 08:26:39 PM
thread of the week :thumbs:
Title: Re: You can pretty much pin the refugee crisis in Syria and Libya . . . into Europe
Post by: wetwillie on September 03, 2015, 08:32:57 PM
When keepin it real goes wrong
Title: Re: You can pretty much pin the refugee crisis in Syria and Libya . . . into Europe
Post by: puniraptor on September 03, 2015, 08:42:56 PM
I would like to order a supersize combo of Dax brainstorming hipster sharia law lifestyle tidbits.
Title: Re: You can pretty much pin the refugee crisis in Syria and Libya . . . into Europe
Post by: MakeItRain on September 04, 2015, 12:00:03 AM
Hey, Dax. I have a question.
Title: Re: You can pretty much pin the refugee crisis in Syria and Libya . . . into Europe
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 04, 2015, 10:49:57 AM
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Title: Re: You can pretty much pin the refugee crisis in Syria and Libya . . . into Europe
Post by: MakeItRain on September 04, 2015, 10:51:59 AM
Oh sorry. I just wanted to know what the eff you're talking about? I'm not convinced that you even know.
Title: Re: You can pretty much pin the refugee crisis in Syria and Libya . . . into Europe
Post by: star seed 7 on September 04, 2015, 10:53:00 AM
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Hey everybody, we're all gonna get daxed!
Title: Re: You can pretty much pin the refugee crisis in Syria and Libya . . . into Europe
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 04, 2015, 10:55:19 AM
I know plenty about the situation in Syria and Libya MIR.   Refugee's from those regions are in a bad way right now in Hungary and nearby nations; a tragedy brought about by the Obama administration and friends.   This is also giving rise to Nationalism in places like Germany. 

Title: Re: You can pretty much pin the refugee crisis in Syria and Libya . . . into Europe
Post by: michigancat on September 04, 2015, 10:59:01 AM
I know plenty about the situation in Syria and Libya MIR.   Refugee's from those regions are in a bad way right now in Hungary and nearby nations; a tragedy brought about by the Obama administration and friends.   This is also giving rise to Nationalism in places like Germany. 

I mean, I think there's some details there that you may be stretching just a teensy bit.
Title: Re: You can pretty much pin the refugee crisis in Syria and Libya . . . into Europe
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 04, 2015, 11:01:29 AM
I know plenty about the situation in Syria and Libya MIR.   Refugee's from those regions are in a bad way right now in Hungary and nearby nations; a tragedy brought about by the Obama administration and friends.   This is also giving rise to Nationalism in places like Germany. 

I mean, I think there's some details there that you may be stretching just a teensy bit.

Okay, like what?  The Billion dollars a year (that we know about) that the U.S. Government was spending to support "moderate rebels" trying to overthrow the Assad regime?  Aka the new search for the new moderate moderate rebels after multiple foreign media sources found that all of the various factions classified as "freedom fighters" were hardcore Islamic radicals?   

What is it Captain Cryptic?

Title: Re: You can pretty much pin the refugee crisis in Syria and Libya . . . into Europe
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on September 04, 2015, 11:03:49 AM
One thing that Dax definitely does not know is how to use apostrophes.
Title: Re: You can pretty much pin the refugee crisis in Syria and Libya . . . into Europe
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 04, 2015, 11:04:55 AM
One thing that Dax definitely does not know is how to use apostrophes.

Cruel
Title: Re: You can pretty much pin the refugee crisis in Syria and Libya . . . into Europe
Post by: michigancat on September 04, 2015, 11:06:24 AM
I know plenty about the situation in Syria and Libya MIR.   Refugee's from those regions are in a bad way right now in Hungary and nearby nations; a tragedy brought about by the Obama administration and friends.   This is also giving rise to Nationalism in places like Germany. 

I mean, I think there's some details there that you may be stretching just a teensy bit.

Okay, like what?  The Billion dollars a year (that we know about) that the U.S. Government was spending to support "moderate rebels" trying to overthrow the Assad regime?  Aka the new search for the new moderate moderate rebels after multiple foreign media sources found that all of the various factions classified as "freedom fighters" were hardcore Islamic radicals?   

What is it Captain Cryptic?



It's perhaps a tad more complex than that, but fire away. I'm not going to argue with you.
Title: Re: You can pretty much pin the refugee crisis in Syria and Libya . . . into Europe
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 04, 2015, 11:09:32 AM
No crap cRusty.   :facepalm:

Who was almost solely responsible for the overthrow the Libyan regime?   Don't say NATO, because by the end it was almost an exclusively U.S. run operation?   Why did the United States overthrow the Libyan government?  Too much disavowing terrorism?   Not enough disavowing WMD's?  Too many promises to fight Al Qaeda??

Title: Re: You can pretty much pin the refugee crisis in Syria and Libya . . . into Europe
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 04, 2015, 11:24:52 AM
https://medium.com/insurge-intelligence/secret-pentagon-report-reveals-west-saw-isis-as-strategic-asset-b99ad7a29092

The document reveals that in coordination with the Gulf states and Turkey, the West intentionally sponsored violent Islamist groups to destabilize Assad, and that these “supporting powers” desired the emergence of a “Salafist Principality” in Syria to “isolate the Syrian regime.”

According to the newly declassified US document, the Pentagon foresaw the likely rise of the ‘Islamic State’ as a direct consequence of this strategy, and warned that it could destabilize Iraq. Despite anticipating that Western, Gulf state and Turkish support for the “Syrian opposition”?—?which included al-Qaeda in Iraq?—?could lead to the emergence of an ‘Islamic State’ in Iraq and Syria (ISIS), the document provides no indication of any decision to reverse the policy of support to the Syrian rebels. On the contrary, the emergence of an al-Qaeda affiliated “Salafist Principality” as a result is described as a strategic opportunity to isolate Assad.


The secret Pentagon document thus provides extraordinary confirmation that the US-led coalition currently fighting ISIS, had three years ago welcomed the emergence of an extremist “Salafist Principality” in the region as a way to undermine Assad, and block off the strategic expansion of Iran. Crucially, Iraq is labeled as an integral part of this “Shia expansion.”

The establishment of such a “Salafist Principality” in eastern Syria, the DIA document asserts, is “exactly” what the “supporting powers to the [Syrian] opposition want.” Earlier on, the document repeatedly describes those “supporting powers” as “the West, Gulf countries, and Turkey.”

Further on, the document reveals that Pentagon analysts were acutely aware of the dire risks of this strategy, yet ploughed ahead anyway.
Title: Re: You can pretty much pin the refugee crisis in Syria and Libya . . . into Europe
Post by: michigancat on September 04, 2015, 11:30:39 AM
I agree that we have been meddling too much in Middle East affairs and it should stop or be drastically reduced.
Title: Re: You can pretty much pin the refugee crisis in Syria and Libya . . . into Europe
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 04, 2015, 11:33:52 AM
I agree that we have been meddling too much in Middle East affairs and it should stop or be drastically reduced.

Come on, it's a tad more complicated then that.   Sad cRusty, sad.
Title: Re: You can pretty much pin the refugee crisis in Syria and Libya . . . into Europe
Post by: michigancat on September 04, 2015, 11:34:56 AM
I agree that we have been meddling too much in Middle East affairs and it should stop or be drastically reduced.

Come on, it's a tad more complicated then that.   Sad cRusty, sad.

I agree, it's far more complicated than that.
Title: Re: You can pretty much pin the refugee crisis in Syria and Libya . . . into Europe
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 04, 2015, 11:35:52 AM
I agree that we have been meddling too much in Middle East affairs and it should stop or be drastically reduced.

Come on, it's a tad more complicated then that.   Sad cRusty, sad.

I agree, it's far more complicated than that.

But all roads in the complications lead back to the United States.   
Title: Re: You can pretty much pin the refugee crisis in Syria and Libya . . . into Europe
Post by: michigancat on September 04, 2015, 11:36:18 AM
I agree that we have been meddling too much in Middle East affairs and it should stop or be drastically reduced.

Come on, it's a tad more complicated then that.   Sad cRusty, sad.

I agree, it's far more complicated than that.

But all roads in the complications lead back to the United States.   

:lol:
Title: Re: You can pretty much pin the refugee crisis in Syria and Libya . . . into Europe
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 04, 2015, 11:37:05 AM
Translation:  You've got nothing

Title: Re: You can pretty much pin the refugee crisis in Syria and Libya . . . into Europe
Post by: MakeItRain on September 04, 2015, 11:38:48 AM
Blaming Obama more than Assad for the issues in Syria is more than just a little disingenuous.
Title: Re: You can pretty much pin the refugee crisis in Syria and Libya . . . into Europe
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 04, 2015, 11:40:38 AM
Blaming Obama more than Assad for the issues in Syria is more than just a little disingenuous.

I've never said Assad wasn't at fault.  Was there any kind of max  exodus from Syria prior to the ridiculous attempt(s) to overthrow the Assad regime?   

Title: Re: You can pretty much pin the refugee crisis in Syria and Libya . . . into Europe
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 04, 2015, 11:42:11 AM
No one can explain the endgame in all of this.   Primarily because it's an ugly reality that turns the so call war on terrorism on its ear.

Just Say No to Regime Change:  Unless a Democrat is President
Title: Re: You can pretty much pin the refugee crisis in Syria and Libya . . . into Europe
Post by: star seed 7 on September 04, 2015, 11:43:28 AM
Rush is agreeing 100 percent with dax at this very moment. Even pulled out a "leftist progressive regime" during the rant

Grats dax  :thumbs:
Title: Re: You can pretty much pin the refugee crisis in Syria and Libya . . . into Europe
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 04, 2015, 11:45:05 AM
https://medium.com/insurge-intelligence/ex-intel-officials-pentagon-report-proves-us-complicity-in-isis-fabef96e20da

I wouldn't know lib, I don't listen to Rush.   But here's the deal, it's people that would generally be considered highly left leaning in their politics who are busting this story open, or trying to.   They're mainly in the foreign media, which is sad.  Very sad.

Title: Re: You can pretty much pin the refugee crisis in Syria and Libya . . . into Europe
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 04, 2015, 11:51:55 AM
And oldie that I've posted before, but ringing true more than ever.

http://www.democracynow.org/2011/11/28/glenn_greenwald_is_obama_fulfilling_the
Title: Re: You can pretty much pin the refugee crisis in Syria and Libya . . . into Europe
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 04, 2015, 11:55:18 AM
The C.I.A.’s contribution to Qaeda’s bottom line, though, was no well-laid trap. It was just another in a long list of examples of how the United States, largely because of poor oversight and loose financial controls, has sometimes inadvertently financed the very militants it is fighting.

Yep, inadvertently.  Who knew, oops.   :dunno:

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/15/world/asia/cia-funds-found-their-way-into-al-qaeda-coffers.html?_r=1


Title: Re: You can pretty much pin the refugee crisis in Syria and Libya . . . into Europe
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 04, 2015, 12:03:41 PM
http://www.middleeasteye.net/columns/cancer-modern-capitalism-1323585268

Title: Re: You can pretty much pin the refugee crisis in Syria and Libya . . . into Europe
Post by: renocat on September 04, 2015, 12:18:18 PM
Thanks for the education Dax.  It is a sorry state of affairs that doesn't seem to resonate with people in the US.   The dead kid in the sand has triggered an awkening.
Title: Re: You can pretty much pin the refugee crisis in Syria and Libya . . . into Europe
Post by: mocat on September 04, 2015, 12:20:07 PM
This is also giving rise to Nationalism in places like Germany.

was this a for serious part of your post?
Title: Re: You can pretty much pin the refugee crisis in Syria and Libya . . . into Europe
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 04, 2015, 12:33:57 PM
This is also giving rise to Nationalism in places like Germany.

was this a for serious part of your post?

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/german-farright-extremists-clash-with-police-in-protest-outside-dresden-refugee-camp-10415880.html
Title: Re: You can pretty much pin the refugee crisis in Syria and Libya . . . into Europe
Post by: MakeItRain on September 04, 2015, 02:39:35 PM
This is also giving rise to Nationalism in places like Germany.

was this a for serious part of your post?

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/german-farright-extremists-clash-with-police-in-protest-outside-dresden-refugee-camp-10415880.html

Dax we all know his point is that nationalism in Germany has been around for nearly 100 years. This very very recent refugee crisis has nothing to do with a rise in nationalism.
Title: Re: You can pretty much pin the refugee crisis in Syria and Libya . . . into Europe
Post by: star seed 7 on September 04, 2015, 02:44:06 PM
I thought nationalism in Germany has been fairly frowned upon since a certain event
Title: Re: You can pretty much pin the refugee crisis in Syria and Libya . . . into Europe
Post by: MakeItRain on September 04, 2015, 02:47:27 PM
Blaming Obama more than Assad for the issues in Syria is more than just a little disingenuous.

I've never said Assad wasn't at fault.  Was there any kind of max  exodus from Syria prior to the ridiculous attempt(s) to overthrow the Assad regime?

Do you really think Syrians would have just sat there while Assad committed atrocities and gassed his own people without trying to get out? It's obvious that we don't have an answer for how to deal with Assad, we don't have an answer for how to deal with ISIS, and we don't have an answer for how to deal with the refugee crisis. Yes, the Obama administration are the decision makers now, but this would have happened no matter who was in charge.
Title: Re: You can pretty much pin the refugee crisis in Syria and Libya . . . into Europe
Post by: mocat on September 04, 2015, 03:17:24 PM
I thought nationalism in Germany has been fairly frowned upon since a certain event

it is extremely frowned upon, but i guess this 200 person rally or whatever turns that completely on its head
Title: Re: You can pretty much pin the refugee crisis in Syria and Libya . . . into Europe
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 04, 2015, 03:20:39 PM
So I guess there's nothing to worry about then huh MIR?

Oh just the goose stepping guys.  I mean golly, why worry about the Nazi salute guys outside the refugee camp full of Muslims (albeit the Nazi's did collaborate with some Muslim factions during that thing).

Hey, when Hitler and that whole thing got started.   Weren't those parades and masses of people they had like on day one amazing.  It was like, blam, HERE's HITLER!! He was a huge hit!!  I mean an instant smash.   That stuff about smokey back room bars and secret clandestine meetings held amongst a few people in places found in dark alleys is just pure Hollywood BS. 


Title: Re: You can pretty much pin the refugee crisis in Syria and Libya . . . into Europe
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 04, 2015, 03:24:35 PM
Blaming Obama more than Assad for the issues in Syria is more than just a little disingenuous.

I've never said Assad wasn't at fault.  Was there any kind of max  exodus from Syria prior to the ridiculous attempt(s) to overthrow the Assad regime?

Do you really think Syrians would have just sat there while Assad committed atrocities and gassed his own people without trying to get out? It's obvious that we don't have an answer for how to deal with Assad, we don't have an answer for how to deal with ISIS, and we don't have an answer for how to deal with the refugee crisis. Yes, the Obama administration are the decision makers now, but this would have happened no matter who was in charge.

Quit being an apologist for this administration and war mongers like McCain. If you actually did the research you would understand full well the the United States and the West are the primary instigators in Assad's atrocious responses.   Plus foreign entities have questioned the validity of the gas attacks believing it was done by rebel factions in order to try and incite more direct military action by the West.   
Title: Re: You can pretty much pin the refugee crisis in Syria and Libya . . . into Europe
Post by: EllToPay on September 04, 2015, 03:55:49 PM
DNR any of this.

But that toddler picture going around this week might be the worst thing ever:


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Title: Re: You can pretty much pin the refugee crisis in Syria and Libya . . . into Europe
Post by: MakeItRain on September 04, 2015, 05:15:40 PM
Blaming Obama more than Assad for the issues in Syria is more than just a little disingenuous.

I've never said Assad wasn't at fault.  Was there any kind of max  exodus from Syria prior to the ridiculous attempt(s) to overthrow the Assad regime?

Do you really think Syrians would have just sat there while Assad committed atrocities and gassed his own people without trying to get out? It's obvious that we don't have an answer for how to deal with Assad, we don't have an answer for how to deal with ISIS, and we don't have an answer for how to deal with the refugee crisis. Yes, the Obama administration are the decision makers now, but this would have happened no matter who was in charge.

Quit being an apologist for this administration and war mongers like McCain. If you actually did the research you would understand full well the the United States and the West are the primary instigators in Assad's atrocious responses.   Plus foreign entities have questioned the validity of the gas attacks believing it was done by rebel factions in order to try and incite more direct military action by the West.

Nice strawman, you just argued a point I did not even attempt to make. Of course the United States is to blame, along with the rest of the modernized western world. I have no idea why you are putting this at the feet of Obama or McCain for that matter, the issue is much more complicated and historic than those two gentlemen.
Title: You can pretty much pin the refugee crisis in Syria and Libya . . . into Europe
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 05, 2015, 05:12:41 AM
What other government does the U.S. have, that can be blamed? Numerous media sources have documented that all or nearly all of the forces  trying to overthrow Assad are from outside the country.   

McCain and this administration are the driving force behind U.S. Involvement. 

The U.S. was in the drivers seat for the entirety of the Libyan campaign, which has torn that country to shreds and the U.S. used Libya to recruit forces and send arms to Syria.

Quit apologizing for them.   U.S. Political and military planners k new their policies would give rise to ISIS, but they went forward with them anyway.
Title: Re: You can pretty much pin the refugee crisis in Syria and Libya . . . into Europe
Post by: MakeItRain on September 07, 2015, 03:20:59 PM
What other government does the U.S. have, that can be blamed? Numerous media sources have documented that all or nearly all of the forces  trying to overthrow Assad are from outside the country.   

McCain and this administration are the driving force behind U.S. Involvement. 

The U.S. was in the drivers seat for the entirety of the Libyan campaign, which has torn that country to shreds and the U.S. used Libya to recruit forces and send arms to Syria.

Quit apologizing for them.   U.S. Political and military planners k new their policies would give rise to ISIS, but they went forward with them anyway.

So do nothing and watch genocide?
Title: Re: You can pretty much pin the refugee crisis in Syria and Libya . . . into Europe
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 07, 2015, 03:22:52 PM
You don't bring in people more ruthless than the existing regime to "prevent genocide".   Come on man.
Title: Re: You can pretty much pin the refugee crisis in Syria and Libya . . . into Europe
Post by: MakeItRain on September 07, 2015, 03:26:39 PM
You're playing the result, that man was gassing his own people by the thousands. They knew arming those people would be problematic, they didn't anticipate ISIS.
Title: Re: You can pretty much pin the refugee crisis in Syria and Libya . . . into Europe
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 07, 2015, 09:56:59 PM
You're playing the result, that man was gassing his own people by the thousands. They knew arming those people would be problematic, they didn't anticipate ISIS.

They "anticipated ISIS" as far back as four and five years ago.

The gas attacks happened after the start of the civil war.   Now, who armed the so called freedom fighters so they could start the civil war?

Remember, regime change was desired by the so called neo-cons as far back as 15 plus years ago, and the Obama administration and friends are trying to carry it out.

Also, let's again establish that Libya is solely on this administration.
Title: Re: You can pretty much pin the refugee crisis in Syria and Libya . . . into Europe
Post by: SdK on September 07, 2015, 10:45:15 PM
DNR any of this.

But that toddler picture going around this week might be the worst thing ever:


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Title: Re: You can pretty much pin the refugee crisis in Syria and Libya . . . into Europe
Post by: stunted on September 09, 2015, 12:05:29 PM
I just started following this stuff. What multicultural society has actually worked out? Besides the ones that take the best and brightest from other countries? Why is diversity good? Growing up in the US this stuff was pushed on us all the time, so I had always believed it. But then you hear of the huge fail that is going on in Europe, it really makes you think. Googling "why is diversity good" comes up with some generic, feel-good sounding answers without anything concrete. The US and Canada are cited as success, but as mentioned before, the benefits of diversity in come from taking the smart ones.
Title: Re: You can pretty much pin the refugee crisis in Syria and Libya . . . into Europe
Post by: stunted on September 10, 2015, 05:42:42 AM
Just heard of the train incident in France. Gunman was Moroccan. Did racial profiling save lives? Believe it was the French guy who got suspicious. God bless those heroes

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"He sold hashish sometimes, like many do, to buy something to eat, pay the rent, but he was not a trafficker," Mohamed, a builder from his former Madrid neighbourhood, told AFP news agency.
"He was a good guy, normal, who played football with us right here. It's strange that he could have done this."

Who can you trust really, it's like they're all ticking time bombs (heh). I remember similar things were said about the guy who gunned down UK tourists in Tunisia.

#reality #uglytruths #diversity
Title: Re: You can pretty much pin the refugee crisis in Syria and Libya . . . into Europe
Post by: star seed 7 on September 10, 2015, 09:24:24 AM
Lol
Title: Re: You can pretty much pin the refugee crisis in Syria and Libya . . . into Europe
Post by: michigancat on September 10, 2015, 10:10:07 AM
Dude do they not have the BBC in Thailand or wherever?
Title: Re: You can pretty much pin the refugee crisis in Syria and Libya . . . into Europe
Post by: stunted on September 10, 2015, 11:07:06 AM
Dude do they not have the BBC in Thailand or wherever?

I just started following this stuff.
Title: Re: You can pretty much pin the refugee crisis in Syria and Libya . . . into Europe
Post by: michigancat on September 10, 2015, 11:08:05 AM
Dude do they not have the BBC in Thailand or wherever?

I just started following this stuff.

"this stuff" as in top global stories?
Title: Re: You can pretty much pin the refugee crisis in Syria and Libya . . . into Europe
Post by: stunted on September 10, 2015, 11:46:10 AM
Yup. Don't care for the most part. Too negative.
Title: Re: You can pretty much pin the refugee crisis in Syria and Libya . . . into Europe
Post by: MakeItRain on September 10, 2015, 12:37:47 PM
lol
Title: Re: You can pretty much pin the refugee crisis in Syria and Libya . . . into Europe
Post by: stunted on September 10, 2015, 01:11:13 PM
Living the dream boys, living the dream
Title: Re: You can pretty much pin the refugee crisis in Syria and Libya . . . into Europe
Post by: stunted on September 11, 2015, 05:10:09 PM
http://m.liveleak.com/view?i=82e_1441931933

There is hope
Title: Re: You can pretty much pin the refugee crisis in Syria and Libya . . . into Europe
Post by: MakeItRain on September 11, 2015, 10:10:02 PM
Stunted, are you Thai?
Title: Re: You can pretty much pin the refugee crisis in Syria and Libya . . . into Europe
Post by: sys on September 11, 2015, 11:17:59 PM
thanks, obama.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-34218313
Title: Re: You can pretty much pin the refugee crisis in Syria and Libya . . . into Europe
Post by: Bloodfart on September 12, 2015, 02:47:03 AM
Yeah that's super mumped.  It made me angry and sad at the same time.  What in the world is wrong with people?
Title: Re: You can pretty much pin the refugee crisis in Syria and Libya . . . into Europe
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 14, 2015, 09:07:22 AM
Don't pay any attention to the protests in Europe about the refugees.

Title: Re: You can pretty much pin the refugee crisis in Syria and Libya . . . into Europe
Post by: star seed 7 on September 14, 2015, 09:09:22 AM
Yeah, I'm not going to
Title: Re: You can pretty much pin the refugee crisis in Syria and Libya . . . into Europe
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on September 14, 2015, 09:11:56 AM
Most of the republican party wants us to be like these backwoods Europeans.
Title: Re: You can pretty much pin the refugee crisis in Syria and Libya . . . into Europe
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 14, 2015, 09:20:12 AM
Guys it's all going to be solved now.   

Got the Iran Deal-Check

Sell Billions in Arms to neighboring ME countries-Check

Continue to try overthrow Assad-Check

Peace in our time!!

Title: Re: You can pretty much pin the refugee crisis in Syria and Libya . . . into Europe
Post by: MakeItRain on September 14, 2015, 10:06:02 AM
Guys it's all going to be solved now.   

Peace in our time!!

Classic dax here
Title: Re: You can pretty much pin the refugee crisis in Syria and Libya . . . into Europe
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 14, 2015, 10:58:57 AM
Peace Through Strength in the Middle East:  As long as they're buying American made weapons.

The Obama Administration:  World's largest arms dealer

Title: Re: You can pretty much pin the refugee crisis in Syria and Libya . . . into Europe
Post by: stunted on September 14, 2015, 11:25:18 AM
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=bae_1442189286

lol

seriously animals
Title: Re: You can pretty much pin the refugee crisis in Syria and Libya . . . into Europe
Post by: mocat on September 14, 2015, 01:12:42 PM
jfc stunted
Title: Re: You can pretty much pin the refugee crisis in Syria and Libya . . . into Europe
Post by: MakeItRain on September 14, 2015, 01:20:51 PM
Stunted, can you answer my question about your ethnicity?
Title: Re: You can pretty much pin the refugee crisis in Syria and Libya . . . into Europe
Post by: ben ji on September 14, 2015, 02:45:09 PM
I just started following this stuff. What multicultural society has actually worked out? Besides the ones that take the best and brightest from other countries? Why is diversity good? Growing up in the US this stuff was pushed on us all the time, so I had always believed it. But then you hear of the huge fail that is going on in Europe, it really makes you think. Googling "why is diversity good" comes up with some generic, feel-good sounding answers without anything concrete. The US and Canada are cited as success, but as mentioned before, the benefits of diversity in come from taking the smart ones.

Yes, because the teeming masses of Irish/German/Italian/Polish/Slavic peasants immigrants that populated this country were clearly the creme of the crop. 
Title: Re: You can pretty much pin the refugee crisis in Syria and Libya . . . into Europe
Post by: stunted on September 14, 2015, 02:49:41 PM
white privilege, duh. the non-whites that get brought in these days are cream of the crop.
Title: Re: You can pretty much pin the refugee crisis in Syria and Libya . . . into Europe
Post by: MakeItRain on September 14, 2015, 03:40:06 PM
so you're not going to answer me
Title: Re: You can pretty much pin the refugee crisis in Syria and Libya . . . into Europe
Post by: stunted on September 17, 2015, 04:31:47 AM
so you're not going to answer me

if it makes you feel better. no, I'm not Thai
Title: Re: You can pretty much pin the refugee crisis in Syria and Libya . . . into Europe
Post by: MakeItRain on September 17, 2015, 09:42:37 AM
so you're not going to answer me

if it makes you feel better. no, I'm not Thai

So then you don't really believe the nationalism crap you've been spewing. It's hard for us to take you seriously if you're not practicing what you preach.
Title: Re: You can pretty much pin the refugee crisis in Syria and Libya . . . into Europe
Post by: stunted on September 17, 2015, 09:55:42 AM
Oh?
Title: Re: You can pretty much pin the refugee crisis in Syria and Libya . . . into Europe
Post by: MakeItRain on September 17, 2015, 07:32:15 PM
Yep
Title: Re: You can pretty much pin the refugee crisis in Syria and Libya . . . into Europe
Post by: stunted on September 18, 2015, 06:47:10 AM
lol. I don't live in Thailand, I live in the country my parents were born in. living  (http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=35969.msg1424351#msg1424351)the dream (http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=35969.msg1425273#msg1425273), practicing what I preach. however, there's not a lot of preaching necessary out here.
Title: Re: You can pretty much pin the refugee crisis in Syria and Libya . . . into Europe
Post by: MakeItRain on September 21, 2015, 12:43:19 AM
lol. I don't live in Thailand, I live in the country my parents were born in. living  (http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=35969.msg1424351#msg1424351)the dream (http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=35969.msg1425273#msg1425273), practicing what I preach. however, there's not a lot of preaching necessary out here.

That's cool, not the only reason I know you don't truly believe the nationalism bullshit you believe, but good for you nonetheless. I don't understand how in your mind you square your nationalism with your love and assimilation into American popular culture. I'm also guessing that you aren't okay with internment camps nor would you be okay with every non east Asian (it's weird that you're so mysterious about the actual nation) country rounding up every non east Asian and throwing them into jail because of 'merica.
Title: Re: You can pretty much pin the refugee crisis in Syria and Libya . . . into Europe
Post by: stunted on September 29, 2015, 11:38:37 AM
https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2015/09/29/study-diversity-proximity-war-with-addendum-on-the-perceptive-genius-of-ch/#comments

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This research establishes that the emergence, prevalence, recurrence, and severity of intrastate conflicts in the modern era reflect the long shadow of prehistory. Exploiting variations across national populations, it demonstrates that genetic diversity, as determined predominantly during the exodus of humans from Africa tens of thousands of years ago, has contributed significantly to the frequency, incidence, and onset of both overall and ethnic civil conflict over the last half-century, accounting for a large set of geographical and institutional correlates of conflict, as well as measures of economic development. Furthermore, the analysis establishes the significant contribution of genetic diversity to the intensity of social unrest and to the incidence of intragroup factional conflict. These findings arguably reflect the contribution of genetic diversity to the degree of fractionalization and polarization across ethnic, linguistic, and religious groups in the national population; the adverse influence of genetic diversity on interpersonal trust and cooperation; the contribution of genetic diversity to divergence in preferences for public goods and redistributive policies; and the potential impact of genetic diversity on economic inequality within a society.
Title: Re: You can pretty much pin the refugee crisis in Syria and Libya . . . into Europe
Post by: michigancat on September 29, 2015, 11:46:28 AM
https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2015/09/29/study-diversity-proximity-war-with-addendum-on-the-perceptive-genius-of-ch/#comments

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This research establishes that the emergence, prevalence, recurrence, and severity of intrastate conflicts in the modern era reflect the long shadow of prehistory. Exploiting variations across national populations, it demonstrates that genetic diversity, as determined predominantly during the exodus of humans from Africa tens of thousands of years ago, has contributed significantly to the frequency, incidence, and onset of both overall and ethnic civil conflict over the last half-century, accounting for a large set of geographical and institutional correlates of conflict, as well as measures of economic development. Furthermore, the analysis establishes the significant contribution of genetic diversity to the intensity of social unrest and to the incidence of intragroup factional conflict. These findings arguably reflect the contribution of genetic diversity to the degree of fractionalization and polarization across ethnic, linguistic, and religious groups in the national population; the adverse influence of genetic diversity on interpersonal trust and cooperation; the contribution of genetic diversity to divergence in preferences for public goods and redistributive policies; and the potential impact of genetic diversity on economic inequality within a society.

ha ha, that website

and what is a "spergitarian"?
Title: Re: You can pretty much pin the refugee crisis in Syria and Libya . . . into Europe
Post by: michigancat on September 29, 2015, 11:49:34 AM
I'm genuinely fascinated that the alpha male dating website with the "16 commandments of poon" post at the top of every page also dabbles in anti-multi-culturism.
Title: Re: You can pretty much pin the refugee crisis in Syria and Libya . . . into Europe
Post by: CHONGS on September 29, 2015, 11:53:47 AM
http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Neoreactionary_movement
Title: Re: You can pretty much pin the refugee crisis in Syria and Libya . . . into Europe
Post by: michigancat on September 29, 2015, 01:10:45 PM
http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Neoreactionary_movement

ha ha
Title: Re: You can pretty much pin the refugee crisis in Syria and Libya . . . into Europe
Post by: sys on September 29, 2015, 02:11:11 PM
for a second, i thought that wikipedia had developed a more entertaining writing style.  i was quite disappointed when i noticed it was a different site.
Title: Re: You can pretty much pin the refugee crisis in Syria and Libya . . . into Europe
Post by: stunted on May 31, 2016, 05:48:17 PM
the dalai lama - the wisest, most compassionate person in the world, agrees with trump and stunted (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2016/05/31/the-dalai-lama-says-too-many-refugees-are-going-to-germany/)