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Title: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: BushBlister on August 18, 2015, 06:19:19 AM
1)He's big
2)His running skills are VERY GOOD! He proved this last year
3)He's a nice guy
4)He gives AMAZING! interviews.

Anyway, what if ertz turns out to be amazing? I'm holding out hope that he's really friggin good. But if he was really good, i'm assuming we would have heard some "rumblings" from some sources, and i haven't heard much.

What do you guys think? Is there a chance? Or have i just taken too much nyquil again? hahah.

:bball: :dunno:
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: BackPayne on August 18, 2015, 06:52:05 AM
Is he any relation to Jesse Ertz?
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: TownieCat on August 18, 2015, 07:37:35 AM
Is he any relation to Jesse Ertz?
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: 'taterblast on August 18, 2015, 07:49:09 AM
Is he any relation to Jesse Ertz?

oh man you got TROLLED
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: SkinnyBenny on August 18, 2015, 08:09:25 AM
But for real though, what if he does?
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: meow meow on August 18, 2015, 08:19:17 AM
1)  Collin Klein barely did anything as a soph and look how he turned out  :drool:
2)  Collin Klein will be coaching him up   :whistle1:
3)  Mr. Touchdown probably has a better arm, and is maybe faster than Klein  :dunno:
4)  He may not possess Klein robot like strength and toughness, but maybe Klein can teach him that  :pray:
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: puniraptor on August 18, 2015, 08:34:40 AM
1) he really isnt big. source: IRL assessment of size standing in line for the chef
Title: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Pete on August 18, 2015, 08:37:20 AM
I bet he gets very injured and very ineffective by his third Big 12 game.   I see that as the most likely scenario.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: puniraptor on August 18, 2015, 08:38:05 AM
very narrow shoulders

maybe good for slippin thru gaps!?
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Katdaddy on August 18, 2015, 08:55:49 AM
very narrow shoulders

maybe good for slippin thru gaps!?
Give the boy some puni biscuits and lots and lots of peas.  If anything, he'll have one tuff gut.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: meow meow on August 18, 2015, 09:01:20 AM
when I hear his name is Jesse, I immediately think of him as Jesse Pinkman from Breaking Bad.  Coach Snyder is then of course Walter White, trying to coach up Jesse to realize his potential, all while securing his family's future before his time on earth comes to an end.  Could someone 'shop Bill's face with Walter White's black hat, just to make sure this is gonna work.  Include Jesse as well.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Dugout DickStone on August 18, 2015, 09:38:08 AM
Jimmy football
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: slobber on August 18, 2015, 09:42:12 AM
Big Game Jim
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: meow meow on August 18, 2015, 09:42:54 AM
"There's 3 quarterbacks ahead of you Jimmy"

"you're not helping grandma"
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: WackyCat08 on August 18, 2015, 09:48:29 AM
 :surprised:
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: KITNfury on August 18, 2015, 09:51:00 AM
haha
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: GoodForAnother on August 18, 2015, 11:20:11 AM
too bad nebrask left the conf or we could come up with a chant that goes like "jimmy crack corn and I don't care" except we would care deeply because they would still be a rivalry game if they hadn't left

haha
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Dugout DickStone on August 18, 2015, 11:34:43 AM
Ertz So Good
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: BackPayne on August 18, 2015, 11:39:45 AM
Is he any relation to Jesse Ertz?

oh man you got TROLLED

 :curse:
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: massofcatfan on August 18, 2015, 12:33:36 PM
Ertz So Good

Come on baby
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: WackyCat08 on March 01, 2016, 10:59:03 AM
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Steffy08 on March 01, 2016, 12:11:27 PM

Don't know whether this is factual, but gd it is nice to hear some good news for a change.

Having him in the mix would be very, very good.  Thompson would almost surely redshirt.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Cire on March 01, 2016, 12:16:19 PM
that's that colombia dude isn't it
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: That_Guy on March 01, 2016, 12:34:50 PM
I have a weird feeling this could be another '11/'12 type season. Relatively unknowns on offense, and a good defense.


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Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: cfbandyman on March 01, 2016, 12:45:06 PM
I have a weird feeling this could be another '11/'12 type season. Relatively unknowns on offense, and a good defense.


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If it's going to be either of those years, it'll be 2011, not 12. 12 Was established, we knew who our guys were. The real question was much rather if winning a bunch of close game the previous year was a fluke or not, and 12 came back a resounding "we're much better". Granted last year was kinda like 2011 but in reverse, where we lost a lot of close games instead of winning them. We did after all blow 2 games (TCU, OSU) with sizeable HT leads that normally we are so good at shutting the door on. Though that would make us be 8-5. Not 10-3.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: That_Guy on March 01, 2016, 02:54:08 PM

I have a weird feeling this could be another '11/'12 type season. Relatively unknowns on offense, and a good defense.


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If it's going to be either of those years, it'll be 2011, not 12. 12 Was established, we knew who our guys were. The real question was much rather if winning a bunch of close game the previous year was a fluke or not, and 12 came back a resounding "we're much better". Granted last year was kinda like 2011 but in reverse, where we lost a lot of close games instead of winning them. We did after all blow 2 games (TCU, OSU) with sizeable HT leads that normally we are so good at shutting the door on. Though that would make us be 8-5. Not 10-3.

That's why I meant, 2011.


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Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: TCUHornedFrog on March 01, 2016, 03:39:37 PM
If he really was a badass then he would have ended up at TCU but he didn't so he's not.

Also, isn't he from iowa? 
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Tobias on March 01, 2016, 03:41:11 PM
pretty good points
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: slobber on March 01, 2016, 04:29:06 PM
Collaboratively, gE is the smartest person I know.


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Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: WackyCat08 on April 06, 2016, 03:22:37 PM
Quote
Jesse Ertz doesn’t know whether to introduce himself as a sophomore or a junior.

That’s how bizarre his college football career has been.

“I’m old, whatever I am,” Ertz said Tuesday at Kansas State’s first media session of the spring. “It’s unfortunate, but it is also a good opportunity to learn, gain experience and improve.”

Ertz, a quarterback, began taking college courses in 2013. So in academic terms he is a junior on track to graduate next year. But Ertz also likely has three years of eligibility remaining. By athletic standards, he is a redshirt sophomore.

Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/sports/college/big-12/kansas-state/article70154412.html#storylink=cpy

Someone is going to get Sams'd! :frown:
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: catastrophe on April 06, 2016, 04:28:54 PM
Im nervous. The Sisco kid would get destroyed running the CK offense, and even if he is as good a passer as Waters, I'm not sure we have a receiver comparable to Sexton on this team, much less Lockett. :frown:
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: MadCat on April 06, 2016, 04:58:10 PM
Can we get our engineers to create an exoskeleton for Ertz'z poor legs?
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: WackyCat08 on April 06, 2016, 04:59:40 PM
A lot of good Pringle rumblings
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: libliblibliblibliblib on April 06, 2016, 07:08:03 PM
i don't think a pringles tube is sufficient enough of an exoskeleton, wackycat08
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: WackyCat08 on July 29, 2016, 10:03:54 AM
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Ran into one of the K-State players I know at lunch

today and he said Ertz is a total stud at QB. We've heard this previously from various GPC staff but hearing it in a conversation directly from a player and with the strong conviction and voice inflection, provided some increased confidence that he may indeed become a special player. Players love his leadership as well, something that was missing last year.

He obviously needs to stay healthy and his O-Line does need to develop and mature quickly (another comment that supports what we've heard previously) but Jesse sounds like the real deal!

He also said Alex has great potential at QB but that Jesse is, without question, the number one guy. Not sure what this means for Alex longer term.

K-State will seemingly need to find a way to get Delton on the field to keep a guy who was thinking he was going to be getting a lot of playing time his true Freshman year feeling like this is still the right place for him. The latter comments are my own thoughts not necessarily this player's.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: steve dave on July 29, 2016, 10:30:08 AM
let's go get'em Ertz Donut
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: ChiCat on July 29, 2016, 10:31:33 AM
I haven't heard if he is any good or not, but I have heard that he put on 10-15 more lbs of muscle this year.  Hopefully that will allow us to get a game or two out of him.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: wetwillie on July 29, 2016, 10:33:36 AM
What can I expect from this cat?  First year Jake Waters type performance?
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Skipper44 on July 29, 2016, 10:34:14 AM
strong conviction and voice inflection  :party:
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Gooch on July 29, 2016, 10:36:01 AM
I haven't heard if he is any good or not, but I have heard that he put on 10-15 more lbs of muscle this year.  Hopefully that will allow us to get a game or two out of him.
Hopefully all that weight was in the beefing up of knee ligaments.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: steve dave on July 29, 2016, 10:43:19 AM
I haven't heard if he is any good or not, but I have heard that he put on 10-15 more lbs of muscle this year.  Hopefully that will allow us to get a game or two out of him.

his head alone requires that much additional weight to be an average sized head
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: WackyCat08 on July 29, 2016, 10:46:03 AM
You guys aren't ready for his #zeal and I feel like you should put on a seat belt for this amazing ride!
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: CNS on July 29, 2016, 11:07:10 AM
I've decided that I am going to watch katz games completely not giving a eff and no emotion.  That may change depending on the interception to  time ratio, but we will see.

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Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: 'taterblast on July 29, 2016, 12:00:10 PM
he has a small frame and will get injured very early in the season.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: catastrophe on July 29, 2016, 12:27:41 PM
Even if Ertz doesn't get hurt, it's hard to imagine that he would not have some serious issues being calm in the pocket after a couple serious knee injuries.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: catastrophe on July 29, 2016, 12:28:50 PM
And Delton would have played plenty if he had stayed healthy last year. He can't be that disappointed, just keep sawing wood.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Cire on July 29, 2016, 02:22:19 PM
I imagine ertz is just like Dylan Meier


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Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Gooch on July 29, 2016, 03:06:03 PM
Meier is was a tank compare to skinny ass Ertz
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: 'taterblast on July 29, 2016, 03:17:05 PM
like i saw him wearing a tank top about a month ago and was not proud that he was my team's qb
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: That_Guy on July 29, 2016, 03:29:14 PM
He's gonna be a stud, get over it!


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Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Art Vandelay on August 02, 2016, 08:29:54 AM
I'm behind Jason Etz. I think he will kill it.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Chingon on August 02, 2016, 08:58:25 AM
I heard James Ertz can blast a spiral right through a piece of plywood.  Strongest arm since Queso.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Emo EMAW on August 02, 2016, 09:27:48 AM
Little known fact:  Ertz's family name was shortened from "Ertzenhoffer" when they came through Ellis Island. 
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: porky morgan on August 02, 2016, 09:56:02 AM
"The Throwin' I-o-wan"
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: meow meow on August 02, 2016, 11:03:38 AM
it's j sisco fools
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: MadCat on August 02, 2016, 02:06:51 PM
Come and listen to my story about a QB named Jed
A poor Iowan, barely kept his family fed,
And then one day he was throwin' tight spirals,
Blew out his knee; now he plays intramurals.

Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Katdaddy on August 02, 2016, 08:57:57 PM
Come and listen to my story about a QB named Jed
A poor Iowan, barely kept his family fed,
And then one day he was throwin' tight spirals,
Blew out his knee; now he plays intramurals.
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Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: pvegs on August 03, 2016, 01:04:13 AM
i think ertz will be good and we will be better
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: sonofdaxjones on August 03, 2016, 07:59:55 AM
One thing for sure, we can't have a QB that comes in and plays well right out of the gate.   It's against the 16 rules or something.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Gooch on August 03, 2016, 11:50:07 AM
Did anyone actually answer the OP? The answer is no by the way. No he is not.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: scottwildcat on August 03, 2016, 12:33:03 PM
Did anyone actually answer the OP? The answer is no by the way. No he is not.

be careful WC08 might call you emo for saying that.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: manpow5 on August 03, 2016, 01:12:46 PM
Just sit back and enjoy the ride guys. It's gonna be a cardiac-cats type of season.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: meow meow on August 03, 2016, 01:44:47 PM
bunch of too cool for schoolers in here, led by a guy named scottwildcat who just learned to smoke cigarettes and do burnouts
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: WackyCat08 on August 03, 2016, 02:03:23 PM
Did anyone actually answer the OP? The answer is no by the way. No he is not.

be careful WC08 might call you emo for saying that.
Live look in on SW from child hood fandom to today's real world

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Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: WackyCat08 on August 03, 2016, 02:04:09 PM
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Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: MakeItRain on August 03, 2016, 09:27:30 PM
Did anyone actually answer the OP? The answer is no by the way. No he is not.

Uh, he fucks with
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and
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/zgDp17iPwYM/hqdefault.jpg)
He most certainly is a badass and I can't wait for him to mush the entire state of Iowa in the face.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: 'taterblast on August 03, 2016, 09:45:50 PM
Did anyone actually answer the OP? The answer is no by the way. No he is not.

that's not the question tho. what if he is a badass?
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: 'taterblast on August 06, 2016, 04:14:18 PM
i mean look how skinny he is

Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: steve dave on August 06, 2016, 04:16:01 PM
I'm kind of surprised his knee didn't explode when the flash went off for that picture
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Ich.Gewinne on August 06, 2016, 08:28:54 PM
I'm kind of surprised his knee didn't explode when the flash went off for that picture

They photoshopped the pic to disguise the messy knee. Technology these days. :shakesfist:
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: SkinnyBenny on August 06, 2016, 08:32:02 PM
I'm kind of surprised his knee didn't explode when the flash went off for that picture

i'm not. knees are weird.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: wetwillie on August 06, 2016, 08:55:47 PM
The way he laces those shoes tells me everything I need to know about him. 
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Katdaddy on August 06, 2016, 11:19:18 PM
Looks like his knee is mumped up!
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: WackyCat08 on August 07, 2016, 08:03:39 AM
i mean look how skinny he is

Johnny Manziel was skinny. :gocho:
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Pete on August 07, 2016, 10:32:44 AM
Here's the only thing we really know about Ertzenhoffer:  LHC Bill Snyder thinks that Ertzenhoffer is better than Huebner.  That's about all we really know.  Now, that IS a good thing. So, reason for optimism!
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: wetwillie on August 07, 2016, 10:38:08 AM
We knew that a year ago
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Pete on August 07, 2016, 10:41:05 AM
We knew that a year ago

That's kinda my point.  That's still all we know. 
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: MakeItRain on August 07, 2016, 12:47:07 PM
i mean look how skinny he is

Johnny Manziel was skinny. :gocho:

So was ER3
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: MakeItRain on August 07, 2016, 12:49:01 PM
Here's the only thing we really know about Ertzenhoffer:  LHC Bill Snyder thinks that Ertzenhoffer is better than Huebner.  That's about all we really know.  Now, that IS a good thing. So, reason for optimism!

We know his teammates think enough of him to vote him a captain.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: steve dave on August 07, 2016, 01:49:36 PM
We know he has tiny little baby bird legs where human legs should be.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Catchacold on August 07, 2016, 01:50:22 PM
He's almost exactly the same size as Steve Young.  :surprised:
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Pete on August 07, 2016, 05:11:49 PM
How many called QB draws did those other skinny QB's run?
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Trim on August 07, 2016, 06:39:36 PM
Kevin Durant didn't even bench 185 once when he was in college.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Gooch on August 08, 2016, 09:44:55 AM
i mean look how skinny he is

Johnny Manziel was skinny. :gocho:

So was ER3
He was not used as a bettering ram because we had and used real RB's then.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on August 08, 2016, 10:30:23 AM
He's a lot thicker than our all-conf free safety. Frankly, he looks pretty solid to me. He's gonna need o-line level knee braces tho
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on August 08, 2016, 10:31:29 AM
6'3" 205lbs  :dunno:
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Fedor on August 08, 2016, 11:28:54 AM
6'3" 205lbs  :dunno:
212 lbs
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: nitrocat on August 08, 2016, 12:36:04 PM
He needs about 15-20 more lbs to run this offense, effectively, and for more than 2 snaps.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Trim on August 08, 2016, 12:37:06 PM
He needs Sergio.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Art Vandelay on August 08, 2016, 01:32:28 PM
Waters survived...kinda...with a smaller frame
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: MadCat on August 08, 2016, 02:51:06 PM
Strap some biscuits onto his knees and send him in, coach.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: steve dave on August 08, 2016, 03:24:13 PM
we can replace his legs with treads like the robot on that 80s movie short circuit
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: MakeItRain on August 09, 2016, 05:22:46 PM
I'm confused as to why you guys think he's going to be used like Bazooka Joe and Klein were. Snyder has done that with two guys like ever and he did it with big dudes who can't throw. He wasn't ramming Sams and Waters head first into the line 20 times a game.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: catastrophe on August 09, 2016, 05:55:43 PM
If Ertz even runs as much as Waters it could be trouble. I do feel like Hubes passed way more than 2011 Klein though, so maybe they are ready to back off the QB run game? :dunno:
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: WackyCat08 on August 09, 2016, 08:11:45 PM
I'm confused as to why you guys think he's going to be used like Bazooka Joe and Klein were. Snyder has done that with two guys like ever and he did it with big dudes who can't throw. He wasn't ramming Sams and Waters head first into the line 20 times a game.
This
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: WackyCat08 on August 09, 2016, 08:14:07 PM
If Ertz even runs as much as Waters it could be trouble. I do feel like Hubes passed way more than 2011 Klein though, so maybe they are ready to back off the QB run game? :dunno:
Dude was a stud dual threat QB in HS. Barring his injury history, I don't know if you're just assuming he can't run because he's skinny. Maybe the injuries tho.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: kim carnes on August 09, 2016, 08:26:26 PM
I'm confused as to why you guys think he's going to be used like Bazooka Joe and Klein were. Snyder has done that with two guys like ever and he did it with big dudes who can't throw. He wasn't ramming Sams and Waters head first into the line 20 times a game.

A lot of your posts are way too confident, like u think u actually know what he is going to do with ertz?  U have no clue, no one does.  And he ran Sams all the time so idk wtf u r talking about re: that.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: wetwillie on August 09, 2016, 08:37:59 PM
its like MIR doesn't even remember CCQ or GG
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: WackyCat08 on August 09, 2016, 08:57:55 PM
How dare someone have confidence in this team on here, after watching miracles in mhk with minimal expectations! :shakesfist: #losers
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: WackyCat08 on August 09, 2016, 08:58:50 PM
I would love a Kim Carnes breakdown of this team. Position by position break down.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: kim carnes on August 09, 2016, 09:02:54 PM
I would love a Kim Carnes breakdown of this team. Position by position break down.

Which part of my post prompted you to post this?
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: WackyCat08 on August 09, 2016, 09:11:53 PM
I would love a Kim Carnes breakdown of this team. Position by position break down.

Which part of my post prompted you to post this?
The fact you crap on every thread. The fact you hate optimism from MIR. The fact you've been removed from mhk for years. The fact that you just crap on every thread, with no knowledge, to get a reaction.  :dunno: I'd be surprised if you could list 6 K-State players for football (without googling) in the next 5 minutes.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: WackyCat08 on August 09, 2016, 09:26:40 PM
CASE CLOSED!
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: kim carnes on August 09, 2016, 09:30:15 PM
I would love a Kim Carnes breakdown of this team. Position by position break down.

Which part of my post prompted you to post this?
The fact you crap on every thread. The fact you hate optimism from MIR. The fact you've been removed from mhk for years. The fact that you just crap on every thread, with no knowledge, to get a reaction.  :dunno: I'd be surprised if you could list 6 K-State players for football (without googling) in the next 5 minutes.

Weird, bc all I said was there was no way of knowing that bill wasn't going to run ertz a lot bc there is actually no way of knowing that and previous history would indicate that what he said is very unlikely.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: libliblibliblibliblib on August 09, 2016, 09:42:39 PM
case reopened?
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Steffy08 on August 09, 2016, 10:07:53 PM
I'm confused as to why you guys think he's going to be used like Bazooka Joe and Klein were. Snyder has done that with two guys like ever and he did it with big dudes who can't throw. He wasn't ramming Sams and Waters head first into the line 20 times a game.

Somewhat true with regard to Waters, particularly his senior year.  But way off with regard to Sams.  Go watch Bu at KSU 2013; Sams was a one-man show.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Steffy08 on August 09, 2016, 10:13:01 PM
For what it is worth, I am pro-battering–ram offense so long as we have the horse (or horses) to do it.  I think our offensive coaches are perhaps the best in the nation if we have a good running quarterback.  We have essentially invented and perfected this style of football, which confuses and stretches the defense while also keeping turnovers very low.  When we have a qb, it is pretty amazing to watch.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: MakeItRain on August 10, 2016, 12:15:14 AM
I'm confused as to why you guys think he's going to be used like Bazooka Joe and Klein were. Snyder has done that with two guys like ever and he did it with big dudes who can't throw. He wasn't ramming Sams and Waters head first into the line 20 times a game.

A lot of your posts are way too confident, like u think u actually know what he is going to do with ertz?  U have no clue, no one does.  And he ran Sams all the time so idk wtf u r talking about re: that.

its like MIR doesn't even remember CCQ or GG

I'm confused as to why you guys think he's going to be used like Bazooka Joe and Klein were. Snyder has done that with two guys like ever and he did it with big dudes who can't throw. He wasn't ramming Sams and Waters head first into the line 20 times a game.

Somewhat true with regard to Waters, particularly his senior year.  But way off with regard to Sams.  Go watch Bu at KSU 2013; Sams was a one-man show.

Where in the hell did I say anything about Ertz not running? Read better dummies.

wetwillie, you should be embarrassed to be lumped in with a parody poster and a certified moron
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: pvegs on August 10, 2016, 12:48:50 AM
For what it is worth, I am pro-battering–ram offense so long as we have the horse (or horses) to do it.  I think our offensive coaches are perhaps the best in the nation if we have a good running quarterback.  We have essentially invented and perfected this style of football, which confuses and stretches the defense while also keeping turnovers very low.  When we have a qb, it is pretty amazing to watch.

Lol, if we have a great quarterback our coaches are good. But, okay, real talk...in that 02 USC game in the "vids that get you pumped" thread we did some read option sprint toward the line and then throw a quick slant crap. And I do not remember anyone doing that before like 2012, and yet, there it was, 14 years ago.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Steffy08 on August 10, 2016, 09:02:59 AM
I'm confused as to why you guys think he's going to be used like Bazooka Joe and Klein were. Snyder has done that with two guys like ever and he did it with big dudes who can't throw. He wasn't ramming Sams and Waters head first into the line 20 times a game.

A lot of your posts are way too confident, like u think u actually know what he is going to do with ertz?  U have no clue, no one does.  And he ran Sams all the time so idk wtf u r talking about re: that.

its like MIR doesn't even remember CCQ or GG

I'm confused as to why you guys think he's going to be used like Bazooka Joe and Klein were. Snyder has done that with two guys like ever and he did it with big dudes who can't throw. He wasn't ramming Sams and Waters head first into the line 20 times a game.

Somewhat true with regard to Waters, particularly his senior year.  But way off with regard to Sams.  Go watch Bu at KSU 2013; Sams was a one-man show.

Where in the hell did I say anything about Ertz not running? Read better dummies.

wetwillie, you should be embarrassed to be lumped in with a parody poster and a certified moron

This is where you get yourself in trouble, rain.  You said he didn't ram Sams into the line 20 times a game.  Yes, he did.  When Sams played, we used him pretty much like we used Klein.  Just admit you were wrong.  It doesn't detract from your point, which is that our coaches play to the strengths of the personnel, like where they started running Waters less and having him pitch it all over the field.  (See WVU 2014.)
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: MakeItRain on August 10, 2016, 11:53:18 AM
Sams didn't do anything 20 times a game other than the OSU game. But he was utilized in the run game completely differently than Klein and Huebner were because they have completely different skill sets. You can't say in one sentence that Snyder does a good job of utilizing talent but the sentence before insist that he used a speedy athlete the same way he used a bulldozer. That doesn't make any sense at all.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Steffy08 on August 10, 2016, 12:21:04 PM
Sams didn't do anything 20 times a game other than the OSU game. But he was utilized in the run game completely differently than Klein and Huebner were because they have completely different skill sets. You can't say in one sentence that Snyder does a good job of utilizing talent but the sentence before insist that he used a speedy athlete the same way he used a bulldozer. That doesn't make any sense at all.

You're right, Rain, we didn't run Sams 20 times against Baylor.  We ran him f'n 30 times.  For 199 yards.  Exact same plays we ran with Klein the year before (and especially in 2011). 

Sams had 27 carries against OSU.

What doesn't make sense is your inability to admit you were just flat out wrong.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Gooch on August 10, 2016, 12:21:59 PM
Would bet a mid sized car that the first play from the offense is a QB run.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: MakeItRain on August 10, 2016, 12:25:28 PM
Sams didn't do anything 20 times a game other than the OSU game. But he was utilized in the run game completely differently than Klein and Huebner were because they have completely different skill sets. You can't say in one sentence that Snyder does a good job of utilizing talent but the sentence before insist that he used a speedy athlete the same way he used a bulldozer. That doesn't make any sense at all.

You're right, Rain, we didn't run Sams 20 times against Baylor.  We ran him f'n 30 times.  For 199 yards.  Exact same plays we ran with Klein the year before (and especially in 2011). 

Sams had 27 carries against OSU.

What doesn't make sense is your inability to admit you were just flat out wrong.

If you can substantiate what I bolded I'll gladly admit I was wrong, I recall Sam's running outside of the tackles a lot.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: MakeItRain on August 10, 2016, 12:33:40 PM
Would bet a mid sized car that the first play from the offense is a QB run.

First series but no way the first play, Charles Jones is getting the first touch.
Also remember for QBs and any potential durability the NCAA has instituted the slide rule this year for all ball carriers. Of course in the past ball carriers were at liberty to slide whenever they wanted to but they weren't protected by rule until they were "down" now they are protected when they start their slide. The two plays I can remember that this rule change would have effected were the Dwayne Slay hit on Allen Evridge and Zac Wegner getting demolished by Jeff Kelly and Travis Litton. I wonder if more QBs will be instructed to slide with the new rule, there will certainly be 15 yard penalties and ejections.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: WackyCat08 on August 10, 2016, 12:51:23 PM
Sams didn't do anything 20 times a game other than the OSU game. But he was utilized in the run game completely differently than Klein and Huebner were because they have completely different skill sets. You can't say in one sentence that Snyder does a good job of utilizing talent but the sentence before insist that he used a speedy athlete the same way he used a bulldozer. That doesn't make any sense at all.

You're right, Rain, we didn't run Sams 20 times against Baylor.  We ran him f'n 30 times.  For 199 yards.  Exact same plays we ran with Klein the year before (and especially in 2011). 

Sams had 27 carries against OSU.

What doesn't make sense is your inability to admit you were just flat out wrong.

If you can substantiate what I bolded I'll gladly admit I was wrong, I recall Sam's running outside of the tackles a lot.
It was definitely outside. I was there.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Emo EMAW on August 10, 2016, 12:56:42 PM
Sams didn't do anything 20 times a game other than the OSU game. But he was utilized in the run game completely differently than Klein and Huebner were because they have completely different skill sets. You can't say in one sentence that Snyder does a good job of utilizing talent but the sentence before insist that he used a speedy athlete the same way he used a bulldozer. That doesn't make any sense at all.

You're right, Rain, we didn't run Sams 20 times against Baylor.  We ran him f'n 30 times.  For 199 yards.  Exact same plays we ran with Klein the year before (and especially in 2011). 

Sams had 27 carries against OSU.

What doesn't make sense is your inability to admit you were just flat out wrong.

If you can substantiate what I bolded I'll gladly admit I was wrong, I recall Sam's running outside of the tackles a lot.

He bounced a good bit of those runs outside, they weren't outside by design.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Steffy08 on August 10, 2016, 01:15:19 PM
Sams didn't do anything 20 times a game other than the OSU game. But he was utilized in the run game completely differently than Klein and Huebner were because they have completely different skill sets. You can't say in one sentence that Snyder does a good job of utilizing talent but the sentence before insist that he used a speedy athlete the same way he used a bulldozer. That doesn't make any sense at all.

You're right, Rain, we didn't run Sams 20 times against Baylor.  We ran him f'n 30 times.  For 199 yards.  Exact same plays we ran with Klein the year before (and especially in 2011). 

Sams had 27 carries against OSU.

What doesn't make sense is your inability to admit you were just flat out wrong.

If you can substantiate what I bolded I'll gladly admit I was wrong, I recall Sam's running outside of the tackles a lot.


They were the same plays.  Sams was faster than Klein (and not quite as good of reading blocks), so he might have gotten outside somewhat more than Klein, but I'm not even sure about that.  In any event, Sams was beat to living hell after his 30 carries in the Baylor game, which was the main issue raised by your initial point.

For some reason, you seem to think that Sams was like Waters, and that we used him like Waters.  Not at all.  Sams was like 2010/11 Klein.

Your overall original point was valid, but you should have just used Waters (or Chad May) as an example rather than Waters and Sams.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: SdK on August 10, 2016, 01:46:51 PM
Sams didn't do anything 20 times a game other than the OSU game. But he was utilized in the run game completely differently than Klein and Huebner were because they have completely different skill sets. You can't say in one sentence that Snyder does a good job of utilizing talent but the sentence before insist that he used a speedy athlete the same way he used a bulldozer. That doesn't make any sense at all.

You're right, Rain, we didn't run Sams 20 times against Baylor.  We ran him f'n 30 times.  For 199 yards.  Exact same plays we ran with Klein the year before (and especially in 2011). 

Sams had 27 carries against OSU.

What doesn't make sense is your inability to admit you were just flat out wrong.

If you can substantiate what I bolded I'll gladly admit I was wrong, I recall Sam's running outside of the tackles a lot.
That's all I remember. Not saying it is right or wrong.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: cfbandyman on August 10, 2016, 02:56:09 PM
If Ertz even runs as much as Waters it could be trouble. I do feel like Hubes passed way more than 2011 Klein though, so maybe they are ready to back off the QB run game? :dunno:
Dude was a stud dual threat QB in HS. Barring his injury history, I don't know if you're just assuming he can't run because he's skinny. Maybe the injuries tho.

I don't get the skinny thing given how no one really has said anything like that about Sams that was and he's 6'2 205. That's basically the same person, only diff is his knee is made of glass.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: catastrophe on August 10, 2016, 03:06:11 PM
Pretty sure Ertz carries at least 30 pounds of that in his head, though.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: WackyCat08 on August 10, 2016, 03:12:02 PM
Wut? Smallest head on the team.

(http://www.kansascity.com/sports/college/big-12/kansas-state/b6tk8p/picture30530877/ALTERNATES/FREE_640/080815QBs_fs1%20(2))
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: catastrophe on August 10, 2016, 03:36:24 PM
That photo has clearly been shopped. Look at how messed up Hube's head looks after they tried to shrink it too.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: libliblibliblibliblib on August 10, 2016, 08:05:39 PM
Klein ran, Sams ran, must be the same plays!
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: wetwillie on August 10, 2016, 08:15:51 PM
I'm confused as to why you guys think he's going to be used like Bazooka Joe and Klein were. Snyder has done that with two guys like ever and he did it with big dudes who can't throw. He wasn't ramming Sams and Waters head first into the line 20 times a game.

A lot of your posts are way too confident, like u think u actually know what he is going to do with ertz?  U have no clue, no one does.  And he ran Sams all the time so idk wtf u r talking about re: that.

its like MIR doesn't even remember CCQ or GG

I'm confused as to why you guys think he's going to be used like Bazooka Joe and Klein were. Snyder has done that with two guys like ever and he did it with big dudes who can't throw. He wasn't ramming Sams and Waters head first into the line 20 times a game.

Somewhat true with regard to Waters, particularly his senior year.  But way off with regard to Sams.  Go watch Bu at KSU 2013; Sams was a one-man show.

Where in the hell did I say anything about Ertz not running? Read better dummies.

wetwillie, you should be embarrassed to be lumped in with a parody poster and a certified moron

I enjoyed this, you are very skilled at message boarding
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: kim carnes on August 10, 2016, 08:17:49 PM
I'm not a parody poster
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: MakeItRain on August 10, 2016, 08:22:20 PM
You should take the compliment, you're good at what you do. I'm a little embarrassed you used to rattle me when you first started.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Katdaddy on August 10, 2016, 08:44:22 PM
Wut? Smallest head on the team.

(http://www.kansascity.com/sports/college/big-12/kansas-state/b6tk8p/picture30530877/ALTERNATES/FREE_640/080815QBs_fs1%20(2))
A couple of these guys had their share of biscuits at BSFS.  (http://goEMAW.com/forum/Smileys/goEMAW/Excited.gif)
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: pvegs on August 14, 2016, 03:10:06 PM
props to ben ji for getting in the "what if ertz is a badass" question. http://www.kansascity.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/campus-corner/article95343302.html
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Panjandrum on August 15, 2016, 12:27:22 PM
props to ben ji for getting in the "what if ertz is a badass" question. http://www.kansascity.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/campus-corner/article95343302.html

I thoroughly enjoyed all of that.  Good job, guys
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Yard Dog on August 22, 2016, 09:52:38 AM
How good of a runner do they say Ertz will be?
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: WackyCat08 on August 22, 2016, 09:58:56 AM
I hear pretty good, when his knee isn't exploding into a million pieces.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Gooch on August 22, 2016, 11:52:15 AM
How awful is Iowa high school football if this guy was crushing records left and right?
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: KITNfury on August 22, 2016, 12:01:01 PM
How awful is Iowa high school football if this guy was crushing records left and right?
I think if we're all being honest, everything in Iowa is terrible except their butter sculptures.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Shooter Jones on August 22, 2016, 12:03:43 PM
How good of a runner do they say Ertz will be?

I don't know.. I mean, he's going to be wearing massive exoskeleton-like knee braces, right?

(http://i.makeagif.com/media/8-19-2015/RHSj4Y.gif)
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Pete on August 22, 2016, 02:31:53 PM
We had the Maryland state passing record holder once.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: 'taterblast on August 22, 2016, 02:50:00 PM
man, what a puff piece. all on board the Ertz train now.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: MadCat on August 22, 2016, 03:34:08 PM
How good of a runner do they say Ertz will be?

I don't know.. I mean, he's going to be wearing massive exoskeleton-like knee braces, right?

(http://i.makeagif.com/media/8-19-2015/RHSj4Y.gif)

Can we hide some kind of hydraulic launchers in those for some epic sketti-brain action?
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Yard Dog on August 22, 2016, 04:21:16 PM
man, what a puff piece. all on board the Ertz train now.

Maybe, but it is getting me super jazzed to see Jimmy sling it around the field. He is the FASTEST SWIMMER ON THE TEAM! Might need to start calling him Jimmy "Phelps" Ertz!  :ksu:
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: That_Guy on August 22, 2016, 04:46:40 PM
man, what a puff piece. all on board the Ertz train now.

Maybe, but it is getting me super jazzed to see Jimmy sling it around the field. He is the FASTEST SWIMMER ON THE TEAM! Might need to start calling him Jimmy "Phelps" Ertz!  :ksu:

Makes sense because you know, Iowa stuff and floodaggie


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Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: MakeItRain on August 22, 2016, 08:51:12 PM
I can't wait to shove Sisco in all of your morbidly obese craws. I don't know who claimed him as "my guy" but he's clearly mine.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: MakeItRain on August 22, 2016, 09:02:23 PM
http://www.meposchools.org/wp-content/files/2013/09/2012-Mediapolis-Football-Results.pdf

3600 total yards
59 offensive TDs
2 INTs
He had 2 pick sixes
All one season, he's a mothafuckin badass

Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Gooch on August 23, 2016, 02:21:38 PM
http://www.meposchools.org/wp-content/files/2013/09/2012-Mediapolis-Football-Results.pdf

3600 total yards
59 offensive TDs
2 INTs
He had 2 pick sixes
All one season, he's a mothafuckin badass


* Iowa
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: catastrophe on August 23, 2016, 03:11:25 PM
10 days to see him in action!! :ksu:
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: CNS on August 23, 2016, 03:14:26 PM
Would bet a mid sized car that the first play from the offense is a QB run.

 :runaway: didn't work great for Ertz last season.   :runaway:
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Panjandrum on August 24, 2016, 10:04:42 PM
http://www.meposchools.org/wp-content/files/2013/09/2012-Mediapolis-Football-Results.pdf

3600 total yards
59 offensive TDs
2 INTs
He had 2 pick sixes
All one season, he's a mothafuckin badass

2012 Iowa Gatorade Player of the Year

 :dunno:

I mean, I'm intrigued to see what we can do.  He has guys that can catch and run.  If he's got blockers and can stay healthy, I don't see why he can't at least equal Waters' output.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: catastrophe on August 24, 2016, 11:21:48 PM
Because Lockett, dummy.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Panjandrum on August 24, 2016, 11:29:49 PM
Because Lockett, dummy.

I'd like to think having better receivers overall can have the same effect.

I mean Pringle is going to be really good, man.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Yard Dog on August 25, 2016, 08:17:22 AM
Because Lockett, dummy.

I'd like to think having better receivers overall can have the same effect.

I mean Pringle is going to be really good, man.

Having more than one or two targets is definitely more dangerous than one Lockett and a Sexton. Didn't Coleman say something about this being our most solid receiving core in a long time or something?
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: meow meow on August 25, 2016, 08:44:42 AM
Because Lockett, dummy.

I'd like to think having better receivers overall can have the same effect.

I mean Pringle is going to be really good, man.

Having more than one or two targets is definitely more dangerous than one Lockett and a Sexton. Didn't Coleman say something about this being our most solid receiving core in a long time or something?

think he said that about last years group nard dog
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Yard Dog on August 25, 2016, 08:46:14 AM
Because Lockett, dummy.

I'd like to think having better receivers overall can have the same effect.

I mean Pringle is going to be really good, man.

Having more than one or two targets is definitely more dangerous than one Lockett and a Sexton. Didn't Coleman say something about this being our most solid receiving core in a long time or something?

think he said that about last years group nard dog

Pretty confident he was referring to:

2012 Iowa Gatorade Player of the Year

 :dunno:

I mean, I'm intrigued to see what we can do.  He has guys that can catch and run.  If he's got blockers and can stay healthy, I don't see why he can't at least equal Waters' output.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Panjandrum on August 25, 2016, 10:33:54 AM
Well, I certainly hope I didn't say that I thought last year's receiving group would be better than 2014.  I mean, I guess I could have, but I don't think I did.

Sexton and Lockett were a good combo, but that was all we really had.  This year, we have Pringle, a more mature Burton, Zuber, Heath, etc.

It's a much more athletic WR group overall, and I think most everyone agrees that Pringle is a bad ass.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: kim carnes on August 25, 2016, 10:35:39 AM
Literally none of those guys have done anything ever
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: That_Guy on August 25, 2016, 12:52:50 PM
Literally none of those guys have done anything ever

It doesn't mean you can't do anything. Just means you have to prove it.


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Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: catastrophe on August 25, 2016, 12:59:34 PM
Yea, I'm sure our WRs have potential and hope they are a solid group, but in college I feel that one superstar receiver is better than 3-4 decent ones.  Pringle needs to be a star if we want to match the passing output of Waters/Lockett.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: MakeItRain on August 31, 2016, 01:08:32 AM
Set the K-State record in the shuttle run, faster than Bish, Ell, Darren, Frank Murphy, all the Locketts. Iowa that, bitches.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: scottwildcat on August 31, 2016, 05:57:47 AM
Maybe 6 knee surgeries ago.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: ben ji on August 31, 2016, 10:10:11 AM
Set the K-State record in the shuttle run, faster than Bish, Ell, Darren, Frank Murphy, all the Locketts. Iowa that, bitches.

Correction

Quote
He was regarded as a pocket passer in recruiting profiles, but Borrison said the 6-foot-3, 205 pound Ertz — who broke K-State’s conditioning shuttle run time for quarterbacks — will surprise people with his all-around skills.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Dugout DickStone on August 31, 2016, 10:13:09 AM
Set the K-State record in the shuttle run, faster than Bish, Ell, Darren, Frank Murphy, all the Locketts. Iowa that, bitches.

How did he not blow out his knee doing that?
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: steve dave on August 31, 2016, 10:14:26 AM
that makes more sense. when my brain tried to picture him running a shuttle faster than any lockett it just responded with, "nah sd, that's make believe".
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Post by: Emo EMAW on August 31, 2016, 10:17:19 AM
It did not pass the sniff test, as they say.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: WackyCat08 on August 31, 2016, 10:18:39 AM
If Ertz turns out to be a badass, I'm going to have to start believing SD's insider ppl don't know crap, and that makes me sad.  :frown: :cry:
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: 'taterblast on August 31, 2016, 10:19:02 AM
i would have corrected it immediately if i had read the full sentence. i assumed he went on to make the record QB shuttle time talking point.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Dugout DickStone on August 31, 2016, 10:22:46 AM
If Ertz turns out to be a badass, I'm going to have to start believing SD's insider ppl don't know crap, and that makes me sad.  :frown: :cry:

Cross that bridge when he actually stays upright for more than 31 seconds
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: WackyCat08 on August 31, 2016, 10:23:45 AM
Yeah, that's fair.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: MakeItRain on August 31, 2016, 10:59:56 AM
Intramural basketball champ. Bish's intramural team was trash. How was Collin's IM team? Huh? Thought so.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: hemmy on August 31, 2016, 11:05:48 AM
Intramural basketball champ. Bish's intramural team was trash. How was Collin's IM team? Huh? Thought so.

I believe Freeman's team won.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: wetwillie on August 31, 2016, 11:18:17 AM
How is he with the ladies?  Any reports from campus?
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Dugout DickStone on August 31, 2016, 11:44:21 AM
How is he with the ladies?  Any reports from campus?

His name is Mr. Touchdown so you do the math
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Shooter Jones on August 31, 2016, 11:49:57 AM
How is he with the ladies?  Any reports from campus?

His name is Mr. Touchdown so you do the math

Someone over heard him say:

She had dumps like a truck, truck, truck
Thighs like what, what, what
All night long
Let me see that thong
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: SdK on August 31, 2016, 12:04:27 PM
Well he needs to learn that song better.
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Post by: SdK on August 31, 2016, 12:05:32 PM
Or maybe I'm misremembering. I thought it was baby move your butt butt butt. I think I'll sing it again
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Yard Dog on August 31, 2016, 12:57:27 PM
Intramural basketball champ. Bish's intramural team was trash. How was Collin's IM team? Huh? Thought so.

I believe Freeman's team won.

Wasn't #LIFE's intramural bball team really good too?
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Shooter Jones on August 31, 2016, 02:25:24 PM
Or maybe I'm misremembering. I thought it was baby move your butt butt butt. I think I'll sing it again

You're misremembering, kind of.. Both are in the song
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: pvegs on August 31, 2016, 02:44:15 PM
If Ertz turns out to be a badass, I'm going to have to start believing SD's insider ppl don't know crap, and that makes me sad.  :frown: :cry:

what did sd's insidery sources say abt jimmy?
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: WackyCat08 on August 31, 2016, 02:47:38 PM
That he sucks.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: steve dave on September 02, 2016, 09:39:53 PM
rough ridin' nailed it huh
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Super PurpleCat on September 02, 2016, 09:42:57 PM
He's pretty garbage.   
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: wetwillie on September 02, 2016, 09:44:32 PM
I think he will be pretty good actually
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: steve dave on September 02, 2016, 09:45:21 PM
He's like Jake waters with no Tyler Lockett
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Demo158 on September 02, 2016, 09:47:29 PM
When do we start a petition for Delton? I'm already making a sign for next week...
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Pete on September 02, 2016, 09:49:25 PM
He's like Jake waters with no Tyler Lockett

Or exactly like Dylan Meier.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: ednksu on September 02, 2016, 09:50:50 PM
running is less scary, glad old balls is willing to go down field.  would be nice if our wrs were allowed to catch.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on September 02, 2016, 09:51:03 PM
He's similar to Allan Evridge.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: _33 on September 02, 2016, 09:54:18 PM
He reminds me of a smaller Joe Hubener. 
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Demo158 on September 02, 2016, 10:00:28 PM
Waters has apparently tutored Ertz in the are of dink and dunk. Must be an Iowa QB thing...
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: wetwillie on September 02, 2016, 10:02:08 PM
Well that didn't take long. 
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Post by: Pete on September 02, 2016, 10:03:48 PM
LOL
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Post by: CNS on September 02, 2016, 10:06:55 PM
Leg :sad:

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Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: wetwillie on September 02, 2016, 10:08:22 PM
Delton probably filled out the transfer paperwork at halftime
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: CNS on September 02, 2016, 10:09:10 PM
Or at least at the 9min mark of the 3rd.

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Post by: MixBerryCrunch on September 02, 2016, 10:20:20 PM
Who called the third quarter??
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: TaqMan on September 02, 2016, 10:24:34 PM
He reminds me of a smaller Joe Hubener.

this. With weaker knees
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: MixBerryCrunch on September 02, 2016, 10:31:11 PM
He reminds me of a smaller Joe Hubener.

this. With weaker knees

What? He's basically a less accurate Waters.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Tobias on September 02, 2016, 10:37:41 PM
Alex Smith
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: kim carnes on September 02, 2016, 10:51:35 PM
He's really bad
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: MixBerryCrunch on September 02, 2016, 10:51:59 PM
I'm hoping the Stanford defense is just spectacular because this offense looks identical to last years if not.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: chum1 on September 02, 2016, 10:53:02 PM
Sucky
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: catastrophe on September 02, 2016, 10:54:22 PM
I was hoping our offense would be less suck, but here we are.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Super PurpleCat on September 02, 2016, 10:56:27 PM
Did I mention he's flaming garbage?
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: O-town Kat on September 02, 2016, 10:57:05 PM
Same QB hot mess of 2004-2005. D will never be good enough for this.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: MixBerryCrunch on September 02, 2016, 11:02:54 PM
Delton must be really awful.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: catastrophe on September 02, 2016, 11:07:32 PM
Ertz would be a badass if he didn't suck so much.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: WildcatNkilt on September 02, 2016, 11:08:17 PM
So so bad. wonder what the tucks are thinking of their guy and team captain.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Super PurpleCat on September 02, 2016, 11:12:12 PM
Good grief he's dogshit.   
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: catastrophe on September 02, 2016, 11:14:12 PM
He has a pretty sweet farmers tan though.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: MixBerryCrunch on September 02, 2016, 11:15:27 PM
Zuber!  :ksu:
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Canary on September 02, 2016, 11:38:22 PM
So so bad. wonder what the tucks are thinking of their guy and team captain.
In defense of tucks everywhere, they didn't elect Ertz team captain. A bunch of young people did that.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on September 02, 2016, 11:42:50 PM
He is a less tough version of Allan Evridge.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Asteriskhead on September 02, 2016, 11:50:16 PM
Stop with the comparisons and call it like it is. Jesse Ertz sucks as a division 1 college football quarterback. He may be a fine young person, I do not know, but he sucks at the job he has been assigned.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: MakeItRain on September 02, 2016, 11:53:38 PM
Well this is predictable. If he can stay healthy he's going to be pretty good.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Pete on September 02, 2016, 11:54:10 PM
Well this is predictable. If he can stay healthy he's going to be pretty good.

Would you rather have Meier and Webb, or Ertz and Huebner? 
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: troubledscribe on September 02, 2016, 11:54:55 PM
Well this is predictable. If he can stay healthy he's going to be pretty good.

Would you rather have Meier and Webb, or Ertz and Huebner?


.....good god...
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: MakeItRain on September 02, 2016, 11:56:01 PM
Do you want a serious answer to that or should I just gE it
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: BostonPancake on September 02, 2016, 11:58:01 PM
As with most things in life, nothing is ever as bad or good as it seems.

I don't think Ertz will be that bad going forward and I don't think our defense will be that good going forward.  Still hoping for 6-7 wins.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Pete on September 02, 2016, 11:58:51 PM
Do you want a serious answer to that or should I just gE it

Seriously.  It's tough to decide.  Webb was better than Hubes, IMO.  The only reason we have to believe that Ertz will be better than Dylan is Iowa HS football stats and an impressive shuttle run score (BETTER THAN BISHOP!).

It's a tough one!

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Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: MakeItRain on September 03, 2016, 12:00:01 AM
Do you want a serious answer to that or should I just gE it

Seriously.  It's tough to decide.  Webb was better than Hubes, IMO.  The only reason we have to believe that Ertz will be better than Dylan is Iowa HS football stats and an impressive shuttle run score (BETTER THAN BISHOP!).

It's a tough one!

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You're not being serious though, it's okay.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Pete on September 03, 2016, 12:00:50 AM
Do you think Ertz has better talent around him that Dylan did?
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: wetwillie on September 03, 2016, 12:02:23 AM
He has approximately 0% chance of staying healthy so it doesn't really matter
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: MakeItRain on September 03, 2016, 12:10:43 AM
Do you think Ertz has better talent around him that Dylan did?

I think I'm not going to compare him to any Kansas State quarterback based on the fact he just had his first career game against the best defense he'll play all year. I'll talk about tonight though. He looked like crap throwing the ball the first half, he wasn't helped by Dana only allowing him to pass in obvious passing situations. And despite the one stupid ass throw he made in the second half he seemed to calm down and go through his progressions and make much better throws, but he was much more hesitant to run.

He'll need to do a better job of keeping his eyes up and just throwing the ball away when the time calls for that. He wasn't great tonight, he wasn't horrible.

I know there wasn't enough "sucks" in this post or non-nuanced knee-jerk hyperbole in this post though, sorry.
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Post by: Wildcatsfan4248 on September 03, 2016, 12:18:45 AM
Burn the RS.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Pete on September 03, 2016, 12:21:07 AM
Do you think Ertz has better talent around him that Dylan did?

I think I'm not going to compare him to any Kansas State quarterback based on the fact he just had his first career game against the best defense he'll play all year. I'll talk about tonight though. He looked like crap throwing the ball the first half, he wasn't helped by Dana only allowing him to pass in obvious passing situations. And despite the one stupid ass throw he made in the second half he seemed to calm down and go through his progressions and make much better throws, but he was much more hesitant to run.

He'll need to do a better job of keeping his eyes up and just throwing the ball away when the time calls for that. He wasn't great tonight, he wasn't horrible.

I know there wasn't enough "sucks" in this post or non-nuanced knee-jerk hyperbole in this post though, sorry.

Sounds like Dylan to me :dunno:   And Webb is better than Hubes. :th_twocents:
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Post by: MakeItRain on September 03, 2016, 12:22:31 AM
okay, cool
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: OK_Cat on September 03, 2016, 12:24:32 AM
I'd take Dylan 100% of the time over Dogshit Iowa QB1
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: ednksu on September 03, 2016, 12:25:29 AM
I really like what MiR is putting down in this thread right now.  Amazing what a half could do for a comparison/play/confidence.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: MakeItRain on September 03, 2016, 12:27:20 AM
I'd take Dylan 100% of the time over Dogshit Iowa QB1

You forgot the word "sucks"
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: OK_Cat on September 03, 2016, 12:29:31 AM
Comparing him to all of the other B.S. 2.0 qb's, where does he land? At this point he is less memorable than Coffman. He may only be ahead of Hubener right now. But it's only almost been one full game, so he may jump Gregory at some point
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: ELL3 on September 03, 2016, 12:49:19 AM
We will NOT win a road game this season, Ertz is locked in for 12 starts, Coffman had one game winning drive against Central Florida and only really made me hate him when we lost at Louisiana Lafayette in 2009. Coffman had Daniel Thomas, thus he was not as crappy.   
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: SkinnyBenny on September 03, 2016, 12:52:08 AM
Coffman also fumbled on the Missouri 1 yard-line as time ran out in the first half, remember?
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: ELL3 on September 03, 2016, 01:04:44 AM
Coffman also fumbled on the Missouri 1 yard-line as time ran out in the first half, remember?

OK, hated him in Columbia, lost that game by ten points, thanks for that

Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: steve dave on September 03, 2016, 07:38:43 AM
I hope MIR is right and his play in this game was an anomaly
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Gooch on September 03, 2016, 08:21:37 AM
When do we start a petition for Delton? I'm already making a sign for next week...
He needs to transfer as far away from this clown show as possible.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: SdK on September 03, 2016, 10:27:19 AM
Thank you, MIR. The rest of you are complete idiots that make gE so terrible at times.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: catastrophe on September 03, 2016, 11:25:39 AM
The truth is we have no idea how good/bad Ertz is because we have no idea how good/bad the Stanford defense is.  Ertz in general took way too long to get rid of the ball, which is either because he couldn't make his progressions or because the Stanford secondary was generally tight enough that his receivers could not get open.  The only thing we know for sure at this point is Ertz has given us no reason to think he is or will be better than any of KSU's last few QBs.  Obviously that is not saying much since he just had his first game against a good team, but whether you are optimistic about him or not at this point is just a choice, it's not based on any facts.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: chum1 on September 03, 2016, 11:34:51 AM
His quarterback rating was 36. Not a good sign.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: MakeItRain on September 03, 2016, 11:38:34 AM
His quarterback rating was 36. Not a good sign.

Not sure what rating you saw but the official stats had his rating as 102.02, Hubener at 57.49, Burns 168.91, and Chryst at 192.40
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: The Big Train on September 03, 2016, 11:40:26 AM
His quarterback rating was 36. Not a good sign.

Not sure what rating you saw but the official stats had his rating as 102.02, Hubener at 57.49, Burns 168.91, and Chryst at 192.40


:dunno:

http://www.espn.com/college-football/boxscore?gameId=400869094
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: MakeItRain on September 03, 2016, 11:44:06 AM
His quarterback rating was 36. Not a good sign.

Not sure what rating you saw but the official stats had his rating as 102.02, Hubener at 57.49, Burns 168.91, and Chryst at 192.40


:dunno:

http://www.espn.com/college-football/boxscore?gameId=400869094

I can't post a link but the ratings I posted are from the K-State app, I'm assuming you can get to them from kstatesports.com or stanford.com on a desktop or laptop.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: The Big Train on September 03, 2016, 11:45:43 AM
His quarterback rating was 36. Not a good sign.

Not sure what rating you saw but the official stats had his rating as 102.02, Hubener at 57.49, Burns 168.91, and Chryst at 192.40


:dunno:

http://www.espn.com/college-football/boxscore?gameId=400869094

I can't post a link but the ratings I posted are from the K-State app, I'm assuming you can get to them from kstatesports.com or stanford.com on a desktop or laptop.

I believe you, I don't know how there could be that big of a discrepancy though.  Isn't their rating like a pretty standardized thing?
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: MakeItRain on September 03, 2016, 11:51:03 AM
His quarterback rating was 36. Not a good sign.

Not sure what rating you saw but the official stats had his rating as 102.02, Hubener at 57.49, Burns 168.91, and Chryst at 192.40


:dunno:

http://www.espn.com/college-football/boxscore?gameId=400869094

I can't post a link but the ratings I posted are from the K-State app, I'm assuming you can get to them from kstatesports.com or stanford.com on a desktop or laptop.

I believe you, I don't know how there could be that big of a discrepancy though.  Isn't their rating like a pretty standardized thing?

No, it isn't. ESPNs QBR isn't the same as passer rating. They introduced that QBR in 2012 and they had Collin relatively low in their rating.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: The Big Train on September 03, 2016, 11:52:11 AM
Gotcha.  I did not know that
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: SdK on September 03, 2016, 11:53:56 AM
I hope you're smoking that in your pipe right now, TBT!
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Post by: The Big Train on September 03, 2016, 11:54:26 AM
:D
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on September 03, 2016, 12:28:29 PM
The truth is we have no idea how good/bad Ertz is because we have no idea how good/bad the Stanford defense is.  Ertz in general took way too long to get rid of the ball, which is either because he couldn't make his progressions or because the Stanford secondary was generally tight enough that his receivers could not get open.  The only thing we know for sure at this point is Ertz has given us no reason to think he is or will be better than any of KSU's last few QBs.  Obviously that is not saying much since he just had his first game against a good team, but whether you are optimistic about him or not at this point is just a choice, it's not based on any facts.

The defense might have locked down our wide receivers better than most will, but they didn't force Ertz to hold the ball too long and throw into coverage. It was his first real game, so maybe he will get better, but he was terrible last night.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: That_Guy on September 03, 2016, 12:36:21 PM
So what did you guys expect out of Ertz last night? Jfc....it was his first game. In a game none of you were realistically predicting wins for anyway. Get over it you losers.


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Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on September 03, 2016, 12:38:54 PM
So what did you guys expect out of Ertz last night? Jfc....it was his first game. In a game none of you were realistically predicting wins for anyway. Get over it you losers.


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2-3 touchdown drives
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: michigancat on September 03, 2016, 12:41:38 PM
So what did you guys expect out of Ertz last night? Jfc....it was his first game. In a game none of you were realistically predicting wins for anyway. Get over it you losers.


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The offense overall was a huge letdown because the defense played well enough to win and mostly contained a Heisman favorite in the process. Doesn't matter what was expected, it was a missed opportunity and Ertz's shitty play was a big part of that along with the shitty play calling.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: michigancat on September 03, 2016, 12:43:10 PM
So what did you guys expect out of Ertz last night? Jfc....it was his first game. In a game none of you were realistically predicting wins for anyway. Get over it you losers.


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2-3 touchdown drives
Yeah, a touchdown before the last 3 minutes would have been amazing.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: TheFormerKCCat on September 03, 2016, 12:53:41 PM
I have low expectations from K-State QBs. Throw the ball away once in awhile, Jimmy, Jesse, Joe, whatever the hell your name is!
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: BostonPancake on September 03, 2016, 01:01:58 PM
Not giving up on Ertz just yet.  Collin Klein's first game as a Cat was just as bad (13/21 for 128 and 25 carries for 78 yards).  In fact, it could be argued it was WORSE because we were playing Eastern Kentucky at home and probably should have lost the game. 

Also, after that game we had a bye week and looked much better.  I'm hoping for the same type of improvement.   :pray:
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: steve dave on September 03, 2016, 01:02:40 PM
Oh for sure, he may be much better by season end. Hopefully.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: SdK on September 03, 2016, 01:04:58 PM
He will be.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: SdK on September 03, 2016, 01:05:40 PM
I mean UH, a rough ridin' city college, is beating OU. Big 12th championship and the playoff still in reach.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: SdK on September 03, 2016, 01:06:05 PM
Jesse has got this!
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: steve dave on September 03, 2016, 01:16:13 PM
I mean UH, a rough ridin' city college, is beating OU. Big 12th championship and the playoff still in reach.

That has not a lot to do with the topic
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: SdK on September 03, 2016, 01:17:39 PM
Sure it does. A tiny little city college qb is doing yhis to mighty OU. Ertz is fine.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on September 03, 2016, 01:51:13 PM
Not giving up on Ertz just yet.  Collin Klein's first game as a Cat was just as bad (13/21 for 128 and 25 carries for 78 yards).  In fact, it could be argued it was WORSE because we were playing Eastern Kentucky at home and probably should have lost the game. 

Also, after that game we had a bye week and looked much better.  I'm hoping for the same type of improvement.   :pray:

Collin Klein put the team on his shoulders to beat Texas in his first game.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on September 03, 2016, 01:52:23 PM
The city college qb is really good, though.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: catastrophe on September 03, 2016, 02:02:32 PM
Collin Klein destroyed Texas because they didn't prepare at all for an unstoppable running machine at QB. To be fair, Klein and Waters both didn't look very good their season openers. However, my expectations are tempered because Hubes improved very little during all of last season.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: WackyCat08 on September 03, 2016, 04:57:28 PM
JW threw all over the field on his opener and looked great. If he wasn't white and from Iowa, this blog would have loved him.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: The Big Train on September 03, 2016, 05:05:33 PM
:jerk:
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: catastrophe on September 03, 2016, 06:06:22 PM
Snyder said he should have played Sams more in JW's opener and he was probably right.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: catastrophe on September 03, 2016, 06:07:29 PM
FTR - Waters was definitely the better QB, but his first few performances were not very impressive.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: steve dave on September 03, 2016, 06:24:06 PM
Meanwhile, white guy from Colorado Collin Klein is worshipped and spawned this actual thread title. Wacky, we're buds. But don't be a dumbass.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Katdaddy on September 03, 2016, 08:21:55 PM
Meanwhile, white guy from Colorado Collin Klein is worshipped and spawned this actual thread title. Wacky, we're buds. But don't be a dumbass.
Listen to this man; he is very wise.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: That_Guy on September 03, 2016, 09:21:37 PM
I still think Ertz will be fine....but, South Dakota State's QB is doing work against TCU's defense


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Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: kim carnes on September 03, 2016, 10:15:21 PM
FTR - Waters was definitely the better QB, but his first few performances were not very impressive.

Stfu
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: kim carnes on September 03, 2016, 10:19:27 PM
Waters was not good.  We haven't had a good QB since Ell.  Klein was not good.  Like, he wasn't bad but we had no chance against actual good teams.  Anyone who disagrees with that is a delusional idiot. 
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: The Big Train on September 03, 2016, 10:22:06 PM
Speaking of delusional idiot...
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: WackyCat08 on September 04, 2016, 11:15:01 AM
Meanwhile, white guy from Colorado Collin Klein is worshipped and spawned this actual thread title. Wacky, we're buds. But don't be a dumbass.
Sorry sd :frown:
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: chum1 on September 04, 2016, 11:40:19 AM
There isn't a Snyder 2.0 quarterback that I've been less hopeful about after one game than Ertz. Not Waters, Hubener, Sams, Klein, Coffman, or Gregory. Ertz often looked completely clueless. And sometimes looked like his legs aren't fully functional.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: troubledscribe on September 04, 2016, 11:54:20 AM
There isn't a Snyder 2.0 quarterback that I've been less hopeful about after one game than Ertz. Not Waters, Hubener, Sams, Klein, Coffman, or Gregory. Ertz often looked completely clueless. And sometimes looked like his legs aren't fully functional.

I'm terrified he will be completely unable to walk after graduating from katate.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: catastrophe on September 04, 2016, 12:27:52 PM
There isn't a Snyder 2.0 quarterback that I've been less hopeful about after one game than Ertz. Not Waters, Hubener, Sams, Klein, Coffman, or Gregory. Ertz often looked completely clueless. And sometimes looked like his legs aren't fully functional.

None of those QBs faced a top 10 team in their first start. I don't think you can compare Ertz to anyone else at this point for better or worse. This will actually make me very for our next game to see if Ertz is on par with any of those guys.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: chum1 on September 04, 2016, 12:51:10 PM
There isn't a Snyder 2.0 quarterback that I've been less hopeful about after one game than Ertz. Not Waters, Hubener, Sams, Klein, Coffman, or Gregory. Ertz often looked completely clueless. And sometimes looked like his legs aren't fully functional.

None of those QBs faced a top 10 team in their first start. I don't think you can compare Ertz to anyone else at this point for better or worse. This will actually make me very for our next game to see if Ertz is on par with any of those guys.

Yes, it would be very unfair not to consider that difference. And I definitely did take it into account.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: WackyCat08 on September 04, 2016, 01:27:38 PM
There isn't a Snyder 2.0 quarterback that I've been less hopeful about after one game than Ertz. Not Waters, Hubener, Sams, Klein, Coffman, or Gregory. Ertz often looked completely clueless. And sometimes looked like his legs aren't fully functional.

I'm terrified he will be completely unable to walk after graduating from katate.
No you're not
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: TheHamburglar on September 04, 2016, 01:51:56 PM
There isn't a Snyder 2.0 quarterback that I've been less hopeful about after one game than Ertz. Not Waters, Hubener, Sams, Klein, Coffman, or Gregory. Ertz often looked completely clueless. And sometimes looked like his legs aren't fully functional.

None of those QBs faced a top 10 team in their first start. I don't think you can compare Ertz to anyone else at this point for better or worse. This will actually make me very for our next game to see if Ertz is on par with any of those guys.

My problem with Ertz was that he just stared down 1 guy, usually Pringle, hoping he would become open.  When that didn't happen, he either forced it or scrambled left and waited for the closest guy to break back towards him. How good the opposing defense is has very little to do with his inability to go thru a progression. The coaches came back and gave him a few quick throws to try to get his confidence back, but he still was just looking at 1 receiver.  He never even tried to go thru a progression.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: bucket on September 04, 2016, 02:05:47 PM
Thought he did a good job extending plays  :dunno:

Sucked throwing the ball.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: MakeItRain on September 04, 2016, 02:58:20 PM
There isn't a Snyder 2.0 quarterback that I've been less hopeful about after one game than Ertz. Not Waters, Hubener, Sams, Klein, Coffman, or Gregory. Ertz often looked completely clueless. And sometimes looked like his legs aren't fully functional.

Holy crap :lol:
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: TheHamburglar on September 04, 2016, 03:15:09 PM
And sometimes looked like his legs aren't fully functional.

I'll actually agree with this some what, but I think it's just the knee brace.  I think it just slows that leg down a touch, but its enough to make it look strange.  Once I thought he was starting to slow himself down while going lame on that leg.  I noticed it on the next run too, but it was just weird optics.

Also, I rewatched part of the game and have a little more hope.  The more I think about it, I'm guess a large reason was our extremely risk adverse coaches telling him not to even think about making a snap decision that could lead to a pick.  I don't have much faith in Dana/Del, but even with them a QB has to be more developed than to just look at one option because that's the best they can do.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: RickRampus on September 04, 2016, 05:11:56 PM
a broke man's tyler thigpen
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: chum1 on September 04, 2016, 06:00:10 PM
(http://www.kansas.com/sports/9upfy2/picture99768637/ALTERNATES/FREE_320/0900216ksu_stanford_br49)
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Bill Clarahan on September 04, 2016, 08:36:54 PM
Hubes should be startin in a couple of weeks
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: SkinnyBenny on September 04, 2016, 08:50:04 PM
What I anticipate is that we'll see Ertz get better over the next 3-4 games, get injured, and then spend the rest of the season watching Bazooka Joe not learn from last year's mistakes.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: BackPayne on September 04, 2016, 08:55:46 PM
Let's get Thompson some experience. Can't hurt.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: MakeItRain on September 04, 2016, 10:53:44 PM
What I anticipate is that we'll see Ertz get better over the next 3-4 games, get injured, and then spend the rest of the season watching Bazooka Joe not learn from last year's mistakes.

Yeah, probably :frown:
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: chum1 on September 04, 2016, 11:55:09 PM
(http://i1322.photobucket.com/albums/u576/teamcatlab/ertz_zpsuw9xklpr.gif)
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: michigancat on September 05, 2016, 12:58:30 AM
(http://i1322.photobucket.com/albums/u576/teamcatlab/ertz_zpsuw9xklpr.gif)
I can't imagine a KSU quarterback making a worse play.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: MakeItRain on September 05, 2016, 01:03:34 AM
You have a short memory then.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Trim on September 05, 2016, 01:13:18 AM
Jammal Lord was down too.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: everyone shut up on September 05, 2016, 12:37:32 PM
I still have a hard time believing delton is worse than hubic air. Maybe he should think about switching positions.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: GONNATEAMKILLU on September 05, 2016, 01:03:08 PM
Let's get Thompson some experience. Can't hurt.

After watching the Texas QB last night. This.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: TheFormerKCCat on September 05, 2016, 01:16:17 PM
Jammal Lord was down too.
Good Lord, look at what we have become.  :Crybaby:  :curse: :Yuck:
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: pvegs on September 05, 2016, 07:16:31 PM
Let's get Thompson some experience. Can't hurt.

After watching the Texas QB last night. This.

I don't know why you guys would want to start the best player available when we can watch Ertz evolve into an 8-5 QB in 3 years. Show some patience.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: ELL3 on September 05, 2016, 07:39:05 PM
Ertz will bring us another Buff Wild Wing title in his Senior year
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Panjandrum on September 05, 2016, 08:39:05 PM
Ertz threw some really nice passes in the 4th quarter.  He looked a lot more comfortable in the pocket and decisive in this throws.  That dart to Heath over the corner's shoulder as he was turned was a pass I haven't seen one of our QB's accurately throw since Freeman.  The pass to the back of the end zone to Zuber was a thing of beauty.

Stanford probably has the best defense we'll see all year, and most likely the best secondary.  Pringle was having trouble getting separation, but he was getting mauled, and nothing was getting called.  The line struggled in pass pro several times.  On multiple replays, Stanford would go at Frantz with two defenders, and he was a split second late.

Once the line starts to gel more, and we get a few weeks with a bye and lesser competition to get more game reps, I think we'll see a much more efficient and effective offense.  I think we'll look a lot better in Morgantown here in a few weeks.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: wetwillie on September 05, 2016, 08:40:54 PM
WVU beat the absolute piss out of the top SEC east team in Morgantown last week, we are hosed.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Bloodfart on September 05, 2016, 10:58:20 PM
Erts and Hubes are FPTCETC's.  Both are on blast till proven otherwise.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: steve dave on September 06, 2016, 08:37:39 AM
Stanford probably has the best defense we'll see all year

people keep saying this. they were kind of mediocre last year and lost 5 starters. I don't know how good their recruits are and crap though.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Poster formerly known as jthutch on September 06, 2016, 09:11:04 AM
(http://i1322.photobucket.com/albums/u576/teamcatlab/ertz_zpsuw9xklpr.gif)
This is when I decided to go to bed.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Skipper44 on September 06, 2016, 09:13:29 AM
OU, UT and TCU are all setting the bar pretty low and they are the 3 teams recruiting at the highest level and with HCs with a defensive background.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: chum1 on September 06, 2016, 09:14:17 AM
(http://i1322.photobucket.com/albums/u576/teamcatlab/ertz_zpsuw9xklpr.gif)

 :love:  67 sitting on his ass.

 :love:  Ertz jumping back in surprise when he realizes that the Stanford player directly in front of him is going to try to tackle him.

 :love:  Ertz trying to casually shoo away a D tackle with his left arm.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: chum1 on September 06, 2016, 09:18:07 AM
67

(https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/772638252452814848/tSGDjIS6.jpg)
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Art Vandelay on September 06, 2016, 10:21:37 AM
Don't know why Delton doesn't transfer. If they won't move him ahead of Hubener, no reason to waste away on the bench here.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on September 06, 2016, 10:24:30 AM
Maybe Delton will switch positions or something instead of transferring.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Yard Dog on September 06, 2016, 11:56:12 AM
Is it Delton's ability that is the issue? Or is it inability to learn the playbook? or...???
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: wetwillie on September 06, 2016, 11:57:10 AM
I think it's more about Dana Dimel hating the crap out of him that is the issue.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: WackyCat08 on September 06, 2016, 12:06:41 PM
Or he just could be bad at football. :dunno:
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Steffy08 on September 06, 2016, 12:14:14 PM
Don't know why Delton doesn't transfer. If they won't move him ahead of Hubener, no reason to waste away on the bench here.

Worked out well for Banks.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Yard Dog on September 06, 2016, 12:23:22 PM
Did we run the wildcat at all in the game? I am 100% certain that is where Delton will be as the season progresses.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Cire on September 06, 2016, 12:40:06 PM
I think it's more about Dana Dimel hating the crap out of him that is the issue.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: chum1 on September 06, 2016, 12:43:42 PM
Del Miller is the quarterbacks coach. He is from Iowa. He had an Iowa bias for Waters and now he has an Iowa bias for Ertz.

Dana and Del make a combined $700,000 a year. They are trash.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: MakeItRain on September 06, 2016, 12:55:47 PM
Stanford probably has the best defense we'll see all year

people keep saying this. they were kind of mediocre last year and lost 5 starters. I don't know how good their recruits are and crap though.

We play in the Big 12
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: MakeItRain on September 06, 2016, 12:59:36 PM
Dana and Del make a combined $700,000 a year. They are trash.

Yep! What scares me a bit is if Jerry Kill is working with the athletic department and the football coaches on finding a new coach is that the new staff will likely be required to keep Dana.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Skipper44 on September 06, 2016, 01:28:34 PM
Trash is a tad strong but the Waters senior year 9-4 is the absolute ceiling unless someone else recruits an Ell or a CK for them
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: chum1 on September 06, 2016, 01:43:33 PM
Actually, according to this, it's $850,000. That means we pay them comparable to what a top 20 coordinator (including defense) is making. Isn't that roughly like saying we think they're worth the same amount that a top 10 offensive coordinator is worth?

Trash.

http://sports.usatoday.com/ncaa/salaries/football/assistant
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Pete on September 06, 2016, 01:51:32 PM
Dana and Del make a combined $700,000 a year. They are trash.

Yep! What scares me a bit is if Jerry Kill is working with the athletic department and the football coaches on finding a new coach is that the new staff will likely be required to keep Dana.

I completely forgot about Jerry Kill.  I would LOVE to know his thoughts on the first game.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: libliblibliblibliblib on September 06, 2016, 01:53:33 PM
Dana and Del make a combined $700,000 a year. They are trash.

Yep! What scares me a bit is if Jerry Kill is working with the athletic department and the football coaches on finding a new coach is that the new staff will likely be required to keep Dana.

I completely forgot about Jerry Kill.  I would LOVE to know his thoughts on the first game.

"offense is a bit shakey"
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Pete on September 06, 2016, 01:54:52 PM
 :sdeek:
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: cfbandyman on September 06, 2016, 02:03:34 PM
WVU beat the absolute piss out of the top SEC east team in Morgantown last week, we are hosed.

(https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQDmq6Lq0hnSU8SEW0yNJgqHNPj-xbV7OH5qGZEReRRFhng6pkk)
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: chum1 on September 06, 2016, 02:09:19 PM
Actually, according to this, it's $850,000. That means we pay them comparable to what a top 20 coordinator (including defense) is making. Isn't that roughly like saying we think they're worth the same amount that a top 10 offensive coordinator is worth?

Trash.

http://sports.usatoday.com/ncaa/salaries/football/assistant

It looks like Dana/Del is the 8th highest paid OC on that list. (Assuming no other co-coordinators make as much.)

2015 total offense yards rank: 104
2015 points per game rank: 58
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Steffy08 on September 06, 2016, 02:14:30 PM
Actually, according to this, it's $850,000. That means we pay them comparable to what a top 20 coordinator (including defense) is making. Isn't that roughly like saying we think they're worth the same amount that a top 10 offensive coordinator is worth?

Trash.

http://sports.usatoday.com/ncaa/salaries/football/assistant

It looks like Dana/Del is the 8th highest paid OC on that list. (Assuming no other co-coordinators make as much.)

2015 total offense yards rank: 104
2015 points per game rank: 58

Do points per play/drive.  The stats you quote are almost meaningless.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: MadCat on September 06, 2016, 03:51:02 PM
Did we run the wildcat at all in the game? I am 100% certain that is where Delton will be as the season progresses.

I did see the wildcat formation at least once during the game, fwiw.  I believe Chuck Jones carried the ball.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: kim carnes on September 06, 2016, 06:40:02 PM
What if he still ends up being a badass even after his lackluster performance?
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: pissclams on September 06, 2016, 07:01:38 PM
for purposes of this thread, the only tense that matters is the present
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: kim carnes on September 06, 2016, 07:19:55 PM
It's presently Tuesday, our next game is Saturday, so agree to disagree
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: WackyCat08 on September 06, 2016, 07:25:28 PM
We don't play this Saturday
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: kim carnes on September 06, 2016, 07:31:30 PM
We don't play this Saturday

Even better
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: pissclams on September 06, 2016, 08:38:49 PM
It's presently Tuesday, our next game is Saturday, so agree to disagree

what if i told you that our next game is two saturday's from now?  if he IS a badass this coming saturday, he has plenty of time to get bad again. 
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: MakeItRain on September 10, 2016, 09:32:16 PM
Actually, according to this, it's $850,000. That means we pay them comparable to what a top 20 coordinator (including defense) is making. Isn't that roughly like saying we think they're worth the same amount that a top 10 offensive coordinator is worth?

Trash.

http://sports.usatoday.com/ncaa/salaries/football/assistant

I wonder if they make more than Meachum/Cumbie, I bet they do.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: catastrophe on September 10, 2016, 09:44:07 PM
No way.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: MakeItRain on September 17, 2016, 02:30:45 PM
(http://static1.fjcdn.com/thumbnails/comments/4634331+_d2acf3f26b1b8edbf7114f9c97c9fc62.gif)
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Tobias on September 17, 2016, 02:31:45 PM
:lol:
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: The Big Train on September 17, 2016, 03:24:06 PM
Confirmed.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: WackyCat08 on September 18, 2016, 10:55:14 AM
Complete badass
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: chum1 on September 18, 2016, 11:24:51 AM
Outshined by Dimel against pud opponent? Yep, still sucks.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: wetwillie on September 18, 2016, 11:28:50 AM
Hopefully he can stay healthy long enough to let Delton get enough reps to be game ready
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: KITNfury on September 18, 2016, 12:00:37 PM
In my mind, I imagine Delton throwing a bad ball, but he must be even worse in real life because he's a far better runner than the other qbs.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: kso_FAN on September 18, 2016, 12:04:44 PM
In my mind, I imagine Delton throwing a bad ball, but he must be even worse in real life because he's a far better runner than the other qbs.

Delton is definitely a more explosive runner. As for his arm, its hard to say because we haven't seen him through. I can only attest for seeing him several times in high school and IMO his arm was okay, but not great. In any case, it appears that he has at least moved even, if not ahead, of Hubes. This is a good thing.

I think Ertz has potential to be a solid QB the next couple of years. I think Dimel/Miller think they have another version of Klein with him.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Panjandrum on September 18, 2016, 12:26:23 PM
In my mind, I imagine Delton throwing a bad ball, but he must be even worse in real life because he's a far better runner than the other qbs.

Delton is definitely a more explosive runner. As for his arm, its hard to say because we haven't seen him through. I can only attest for seeing him several times in high school and IMO his arm was okay, but not great. In any case, it appears that he has at least moved even, if not ahead, of Hubes. This is a good thing.

I think Ertz has potential to be a solid QB the next couple of years. I think Dimel/Miller think they have another version of Klein with him.

They can run a relatively similar offense, with the major exception of being unable to run the ball 18-20 times a game with him.  He wouldn't survive three games with Klein's 2011 load.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on September 18, 2016, 12:28:06 PM
Our pass protection kind of sucked, and I thought Ertz did a great job creating plays. He is quick and fast. He had a couple bad throws but was otherwise solid in a rather vanilla scheme. He needs to improve his decisiveness is the option game-a lot.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: MakeItRain on September 18, 2016, 12:47:33 PM
He holds the ball too long, but that's a pretty standard issue for an inexperienced quarterback.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: SkinnyBenny on September 18, 2016, 10:02:22 PM
Worked well against Stanford one time tho iirc.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on September 24, 2016, 08:09:20 PM
Looking pretty badasd tonight
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: The Big Train on September 24, 2016, 08:11:06 PM
This is already been confirmed
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: wetwillie on September 24, 2016, 08:19:35 PM
Man MIR stood in there and defended his guy against basically the entire board for months and now gets the payoff.  I hope he has that Scrubs told you so GIF dialed up for this thread tonight.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: GoodForAnother on September 24, 2016, 08:22:25 PM
Bleeding elbows :surprised:
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: The Big Train on September 24, 2016, 08:22:59 PM
Bleeding elbows :surprised:

It's CK7 reborn :love:
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: everyone shut up on September 24, 2016, 08:25:16 PM
He does look good. It's Missouri state tho. Either way, I like it.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: MixBerryCrunch on September 24, 2016, 08:29:32 PM
Wow, they took him out early. Too important to risk the rain, I guess.
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Post by: doom on September 24, 2016, 08:38:02 PM
It's 35-0, bro.   :billdance:
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: everyone shut up on September 24, 2016, 08:39:05 PM
Delton might be Sams 2.0
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: mocat on September 24, 2016, 08:41:38 PM
He is fast and i like that
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Gooch on September 24, 2016, 08:42:57 PM
I'm not taking a single bite of this crow MIR has prepared for me until after the Coal Aggie game
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: catastrophe on September 24, 2016, 08:52:52 PM
Not to be a contrarian, but Ertz has really only looked good so far against super crappy teams. Lets pump the brakes a bit.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: wetwillie on September 24, 2016, 09:01:58 PM
Quote from: catastrophe around Dec 9 2016
Let's pump the breaks on this Ertz guy.  He hasn't even won the heisman trophy yet.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: catastrophe on September 24, 2016, 09:03:41 PM
Good point.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Super PurpleCat on September 24, 2016, 09:07:33 PM
So is he at least good, or bad?
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: The Big Train on September 24, 2016, 09:10:27 PM
He's a badass like the thread title asks
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: MakeItRain on September 24, 2016, 09:21:14 PM
He seems to be a little bit clumsy. That first long run he had would have been a touchdown if his upper body wasn't 2 yards ahead of his feet and stumbled twice.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Panjandrum on September 24, 2016, 09:26:46 PM
He seems to be a little bit clumsy. That first long run he had would have been a touchdown if his upper body wasn't 2 yards ahead of his feet and stumbled twice.

I always think of this when I see him run.

(http://weknowmemes.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/duck-chase-gif.gif)
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Super PurpleCat on September 24, 2016, 09:43:22 PM
That's super adorable.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Lucas Scoopsalot on September 24, 2016, 11:14:38 PM
ducky ertz
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Dugout DickStone on September 24, 2016, 11:20:22 PM
He looked nice but remember the glass knee
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: WildcatPower on September 25, 2016, 01:24:44 AM
Granted, it is Missouri State, but that pass to Heath in the endzone for the touchdown was right on the money.
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Post by: scottwildcat on September 25, 2016, 06:54:56 AM
ducky ertz
This is his new name.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: WackyCat08 on September 25, 2016, 09:00:00 AM
Love this guy!
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Dugout DickStone on September 25, 2016, 11:02:27 AM
I was obvioualy on Mr. Touchdown like 4 years ago
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: ben ji on September 25, 2016, 11:14:25 AM
I have enjoyed Ertz play the last 2 weeks and would like him to continue playing well.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: MixBerryCrunch on September 25, 2016, 11:32:05 AM
The knee brace thing probably adds to his clumsiness. He looked good last night, but I'm waiting for the WVU game to make sure it wasn't just an aberration. I'm still not convinced he's going to make it through the season.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Panjandrum on September 25, 2016, 11:33:06 AM
I'm looking forward to watching the replay, but he did a really good job of finding the right guy based on what the defense was giving him.

That ball to Heath was just pretty.  So pretty.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Panjandrum on September 25, 2016, 11:37:07 AM
The knee brace thing probably adds to his clumsiness. He looked good last night, but I'm waiting for the WVU game to make sure it wasn't just an aberration. I'm still not convinced he's going to make it through the season.

WVU can be shredded a bit.  That defense isn't that great.

They gave up almost 7 yards per play to BYU.  And it's been progressively worse each game.

I think they've gotten a lot of credit for beating Missouri, but that's a bad, bad football team.  And they really struggled against Youngstown for a while.

Dana's teams really struggle when they can't dictate the game, offensively.  I don't think we're going to allow them to do that.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Belvis Noland on September 25, 2016, 11:47:26 AM
Granted, it is Missouri State, but that pass to Heath in the endzone for the touchdown was right on the money.

this.   :kstategrad:
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: MakeItRain on September 25, 2016, 11:52:24 AM
Granted, it is Missouri State, but that pass to Heath in the endzone for the touchdown was right on the money.

this.   :kstategrad:

It wasn't his best pass of the year but whatever
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: kslim on September 25, 2016, 12:01:14 PM
The knee brace thing probably adds to his clumsiness. He looked good last night, but I'm waiting for the WVU game to make sure it wasn't just an aberration. I'm still not convinced he's going to make it through the season.
taysom hill has zero knees at all (like literally none. torn lcl acl mcl meniscus multiple times the fact he is even alive is a testament to science) and did whatever the eff he wanted on wvu ground wise, he just liked to throw the ball to the wrong team too many times.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: wetwillie on September 25, 2016, 12:11:51 PM
Granted, it is Missouri State, but that pass to Heath in the endzone for the touchdown was right on the money.

this.   :kstategrad:


It wasn't his best pass of the year but whatever

Shoe box throw against the Cardinal?
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: MakeItRain on September 25, 2016, 02:23:56 PM
Granted, it is Missouri State, but that pass to Heath in the endzone for the touchdown was right on the money.

this.   :kstategrad:


It wasn't his best pass of the year but whatever

Shoe box throw against the Cardinal?

Yeah.

Also the soccer team clearly loves him too, he shows up and they score two quick goals
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: catastrophe on September 25, 2016, 04:01:22 PM
Leader.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Panjandrum on September 25, 2016, 04:38:20 PM
Ertz to Heath is a fun combo. They have great chemistry.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Pete on September 25, 2016, 05:25:44 PM
A LOT of you guys owe MIR apologies on this whole "our quarterbacks suck" thing. smh
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: WackyCat08 on September 25, 2016, 05:38:40 PM
Lol. Nah. Just an Iowa hayseed
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: kslim on September 25, 2016, 06:19:49 PM
I can't wait to shove Sisco in all of your morbidly obese craws. I don't know who claimed him as "my guy" but he's clearly mine.
keep doing you man
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Panjandrum on September 25, 2016, 08:15:05 PM
Assuming Ertz gets a medical RS for last year and a sixth year, you could have him with Pringle, Heath, Strickland, Valentine, Warmack, Barnes, Riesner, Dimel, and most of the OL for three years.

It's hard to find that continuity outside of the NFL.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Steffy08 on September 25, 2016, 08:33:20 PM
Assuming Ertz gets a medical RS for last year and a sixth year, you could have him with Pringle, Heath, Strickland, Valentine, Warmack, Barnes, Riesner, Dimel, and most of the OL for three years.

It's hard to find that continuity outside of the NFL.

And Zuber, Silmon, Sutton, and Harris.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: kslim on September 25, 2016, 08:47:48 PM
Assuming Ertz gets a medical RS for last year and a sixth year, you could have him with Pringle, Heath, Strickland, Valentine, Warmack, Barnes, Riesner, Dimel, and most of the OL for three years.

It's hard to find that continuity outside of the NFL.
well that's gonna suck for skylar, but probably not
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: wetwillie on September 25, 2016, 08:49:27 PM
Assuming Ertz gets a medical RS for last year and a sixth year, you could have him with Pringle, Heath, Strickland, Valentine, Warmack, Barnes, Riesner, Dimel, and most of the OL for three years.

It's hard to find that continuity outside of the NFL.
well that's gonna suck for skylar, but probably not

He will be at blinn by then
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: TheTruth on September 25, 2016, 09:07:35 PM
Assuming Ertz gets a medical RS for last year and a sixth year, you could have him with Pringle, Heath, Strickland, Valentine, Warmack, Barnes, Riesner, Dimel, and most of the OL for three years.

It's hard to find that continuity outside of the NFL.

It is refreshing to have so many underclassmen starting or in 2 deep, pretty encouraging for the next 2-3 years.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Cire on September 26, 2016, 03:05:01 PM
Both of JE's TD passes were really really well thrown.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: cfbandyman on September 26, 2016, 06:01:06 PM
Assuming Ertz gets a medical RS for last year and a sixth year, you could have him with Pringle, Heath, Strickland, Valentine, Warmack, Barnes, Riesner, Dimel, and most of the OL for three years.

It's hard to find that continuity outside of the NFL.

And Zuber, Silmon, Sutton, and Harris.

Exactly, this team could be scary good for many years.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: kim carnes on September 26, 2016, 06:59:03 PM
Assuming Ertz gets a medical RS for last year and a sixth year, you could have him with Pringle, Heath, Strickland, Valentine, Warmack, Barnes, Riesner, Dimel, and most of the OL for three years.

It's hard to find that continuity outside of the NFL.

And Zuber, Silmon, Sutton, and Harris.

Exactly, this team could be scary good for many years.

I think you're using the term scary good a little loosely.  Like maybe more loosely than anyone ever.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: FranklyFrankYou on September 27, 2016, 01:57:00 AM
Quote from: Panjandrum link=topic=35766.msg1620136#msg16201j36 date=1474852505
Assuming Ertz gets a medical RS for last year and a sixth year, you could have him with Pringle, Heath, Strickland, Valentine, Warmack, Barnes, Riesner, Dimel, and most of the OL for three years.

It's hard to find that continuity outside of the NFL.
To think Ertz is gonna risk his knees after he wins the Heiman and CFPLAYOFF next year is a bit presumptuous
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: cfbandyman on September 27, 2016, 03:37:16 AM
Assuming Ertz gets a medical RS for last year and a sixth year, you could have him with Pringle, Heath, Strickland, Valentine, Warmack, Barnes, Riesner, Dimel, and most of the OL for three years.

It's hard to find that continuity outside of the NFL.

And Zuber, Silmon, Sutton, and Harris.

Exactly, this team could be scary good for many years.

I think you're using the term scary good a little loosely.  Like maybe more loosely than anyone ever.

Your schtick is tired and done kim, work on it
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: PIPE on October 01, 2016, 04:11:33 PM
This performance :sdeek:

Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: MixBerryCrunch on October 01, 2016, 04:15:34 PM
He needs work on his deep balls and deciding where to go with the ball quicker.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Big Sam on October 01, 2016, 04:17:30 PM
He needs work on his deep balls and deciding where to go with the ball quicker.

as well as the panicked throw off the back foot while facing the blitz/heavy pressure.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: chum1 on October 01, 2016, 04:19:47 PM
What if Ertz is occasionally okay?
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 01, 2016, 04:20:06 PM
We need to throw more short easy routes on first and 10.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: MixBerryCrunch on October 01, 2016, 04:21:07 PM
He needs work on his deep balls and deciding where to go with the ball quicker.

as well as the panicked throw off the back foot while facing the blitz/heavy pressure.

Yeah, I think he has a nerve issue against teams with a pulse.  He looked like a completely different player against MO State.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: catastrophe on October 01, 2016, 04:34:15 PM
Two great games at home, two meh games on the road. I see a pattern. I think Ertz will be ok in the long run.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: KITNfury on October 01, 2016, 04:51:26 PM
Two great games at home, two meh games on the road. I see a pattern. I think Ertz will be ok in the long run.
Me too, so far he's sucked balls against any team with a pulse
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Gooch on October 01, 2016, 05:24:57 PM
He's awful
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Post by: BackPayne on October 01, 2016, 05:25:53 PM
For eff's sake. He's pretty crappy.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: PIPE on October 01, 2016, 05:29:10 PM
Is it bad for me to be calling for Huebener? Jeesh
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: KITNfury on October 01, 2016, 05:29:37 PM
He has no business playing major college football
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Gooch on October 01, 2016, 05:31:19 PM
Is it bad for me to be calling for Huebener? Jeesh
Over Delton yes.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: catastrophe on October 01, 2016, 05:31:30 PM
Is it bad for me to be calling for Huebener? Jeesh

Yes. But you already knew that.

At least Ertz is showing potential. Plus dat speed tho.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: BackPayne on October 01, 2016, 05:32:55 PM
JFC. How bad is Delton?
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Super PurpleCat on October 01, 2016, 05:35:03 PM
I like how we keep finding these non QB guys to play for us.  Seems like a decades worth at least.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Steffy08 on October 01, 2016, 05:36:29 PM
Bring in Denton or Hubener and run the qb read.  Ertz and Dimel have been horrible
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Chingon on October 01, 2016, 05:57:36 PM
No he is not
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Super PurpleCat on October 01, 2016, 05:58:00 PM
Leave him in Morgantown. 
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: kim carnes on October 01, 2016, 05:58:36 PM
Assuming Ertz gets a medical RS for last year and a sixth year, you could have him with Pringle, Heath, Strickland, Valentine, Warmack, Barnes, Riesner, Dimel, and most of the OL for three years.

It's hard to find that continuity outside of the NFL.

And Zuber, Silmon, Sutton, and Harris.

Exactly, this team could be scary good for many years.

I think you're using the term scary good a little loosely.  Like maybe more loosely than anyone ever.

Your schtick is tired and done kim, work on it

Scary good
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: catastrophe on October 01, 2016, 05:58:57 PM
Haven't seen MIR in here for a while.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: ednksu on October 01, 2016, 05:59:14 PM
Leave him in Morgantown.
overshot the bus, he's in the car 4 ahead.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: The Whale on October 01, 2016, 06:04:45 PM
If only there was a way to gameplan around a QB crapping his pants on the road

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Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: michigancat on October 01, 2016, 06:26:01 PM
He's very good with time and space but absolutely terrible with any kind of pressure, passing or running.

Obviously every quarterback is like this to a certain extent, Ertz seems to be more on the extremes than most.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: DOD Take 2 on October 01, 2016, 06:35:02 PM
Id give my pinky toe to have Waters back and I hated Waters. I would even make this trade for Carson Coffman
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: bubbles4ksu on October 01, 2016, 06:44:59 PM
Waters was great his second year. Ertz might have been good this year if he hadn't gotten hurt.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: catastrophe on October 01, 2016, 06:54:15 PM
Ertz will be good eventually, I have no doubt. Just not this year sadly. :frown:
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Panjandrum on October 01, 2016, 06:58:15 PM
He threw some nice balls, but four yards too far.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: bubbles4ksu on October 01, 2016, 07:03:01 PM
He threw some nice balls, but four yards too far.
Pringle dropped his best ball of the day. A score that would have put the game out of reach.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Steffy08 on October 01, 2016, 07:03:23 PM
Ertz will be good eventually, I have no doubt. Just not this year sadly. :frown:

I do doubt
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: steve dave on October 01, 2016, 07:11:09 PM
By his senior year he could be Carson Coffman
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: michigancat on October 01, 2016, 07:27:33 PM
He threw some nice balls, but four yards too far.
Pringle dropped his best ball of the day. A score that would have put the game out of reach.

it would have been a different game, but it would have been far from putting the game out of reach.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: michigancat on October 01, 2016, 07:28:42 PM
And meanwhile, Kenny Hill has thrown for 440 and 5 TD's against OU.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Chingon on October 01, 2016, 07:29:32 PM
KU would probably be the only team that would trade QBs.  Maybe ISU as well.  Not a good sign.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: kim carnes on October 01, 2016, 07:30:55 PM
Guys, our team is a joke.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: sunny_cat on October 01, 2016, 07:36:03 PM
KU would probably be the only team that would trade QBs.  Maybe ISU as well.  Not a good sign.

ISU wouldn't after today at least
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Steffy08 on October 01, 2016, 08:00:04 PM
Ertz reminds me of Everidge, except less decisive
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: ksupamplemousse on October 01, 2016, 09:35:43 PM
That was the worst QB performance I can remember as a K-State fan. I'm sure there have been worse, but none come readily to mind. I mean, 10/30 with no TDs and a pick? rough ridin' woof.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: michigancat on October 01, 2016, 09:42:54 PM
I mean, his performance at Stanford was arguably worse.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Lucas Scoopsalot on October 01, 2016, 09:48:16 PM
That was the worst QB performance I can remember as a K-State fan. I'm sure there have been worse, but none come readily to mind. I mean, 10/30 with no TDs and a pick? rough ridin' woof.
this. Carson Coffman could have done that in his sleep.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: chum1 on October 01, 2016, 10:03:39 PM
(http://i1322.photobucket.com/albums/u576/teamcatlab/ertz_zpsuw9xklpr.gif)
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: MakeItRain on October 01, 2016, 10:23:29 PM
He's very good with time and space but absolutely terrible with any kind of pressure, passing or running.

Obviously every quarterback is like this to a certain extent, Ertz seems to be more on the extremes than most.

I am certainly not going to come in here and say he had a even okay game. It wasn't good, we scored 16 points and he, as the quarterback, has to shoulder that. It was his second state against a team with a pulse, hopefully he'll get better.

Now about that hopefully. If his coaches don't trust him to run a real offense then he needs to sit. I don't know if it's his reads or what we're checking into but every rough ridin' pass off of the blitz was a go route. He isn't hitting those because he isn't stepping into them, that's his fault, but why can't the coaches see that? He did a great job on intermediate routes, even on passing downs, why weren't they called more?

We have no offensive identity and that's the fault of the coaches. If they feel like he can't run an offense then he needs to be benched and we can just run Delton and Warmack on QB reads every play.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: _33 on October 01, 2016, 10:30:59 PM
He's very good with time and space but absolutely terrible with any kind of pressure, passing or running.

Obviously every quarterback is like this to a certain extent, Ertz seems to be more on the extremes than most.

We have no offensive identity and that's the fault of the coaches. If they feel like he can't run an offense then he needs to be benched and we can just run Delton and Warmack on QB reads every play.

Or we could play Delton and let him run and throw since it would be pretty hard to be worse than 10/30 no TD's and a pick.  I mean our 5th string QB/4th string WR started a couple games last year and never had a stat line that bad.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: MakeItRain on October 01, 2016, 10:33:32 PM
And meanwhile, Kenny Hill has thrown for 440 and 5 TD's against OU.

I hate the Kenny Hill thing because if he were here, he may not even get to play. We haven't let a quarterback play like that since 2003.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: ksupamplemousse on October 01, 2016, 11:08:02 PM
I mean, his performance at Stanford was arguably worse.

I guess you could argue that, but quarterback's can win completing 1/2 their passes. It's difficult, but doable. Completing 1/3 of your passes precludes winning from being a realistic outcome.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Blackcats on October 01, 2016, 11:08:35 PM
Ertz reminds me of Everidge, except less decisive

This.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: michigancat on October 01, 2016, 11:11:02 PM
I mean, his performance at Stanford was arguably worse.

I guess you could argue that, but quarterback's can win completing 1/2 their passes. It's difficult, but doable. Completing 1/3 of your passes precludes winning from being a realistic outcome.
Yeah I guess he didn't make any failed attempted interceptions with his knee on the ground in the end zone this game which in a way could be considered progress.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: HELLHAMMER on October 01, 2016, 11:23:02 PM
I'm sick and tired of Iowa QBs.  Does everyone from Iowa crap their pants under the least bit of pressure?
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Panjandrum on October 02, 2016, 02:41:15 AM
He's very good with time and space but absolutely terrible with any kind of pressure, passing or running.

Obviously every quarterback is like this to a certain extent, Ertz seems to be more on the extremes than most.

I am certainly not going to come in here and say he had a even okay game. It wasn't good, we scored 16 points and he, as the quarterback, has to shoulder that. It was his second state against a team with a pulse, hopefully he'll get better.

Now about that hopefully. If his coaches don't trust him to run a real offense then he needs to sit. I don't know if it's his reads or what we're checking into but every rough ridin' pass off of the blitz was a go route. He isn't hitting those because he isn't stepping into them, that's his fault, but why can't the coaches see that? He did a great job on intermediate routes, even on passing downs, why weren't they called more?

We have no offensive identity and that's the fault of the coaches. If they feel like he can't run an offense then he needs to be benched and we can just run Delton and Warmack on QB reads every play.

What I don't understand is how we constantly get ourselves in the same situation where we have trust issues with the QB. And it's been every single year with the exception of 2012 and 2014.

If the offense looks like dogshit every year we don't have a multi-year Senior starter, it's a problem with the offense.

We can pile on Jesse for a bad day, but this is every year that we don't have a senior under center.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: The Big Train on October 02, 2016, 07:26:23 AM
Ertz might set records for the worst deep ball completion percentage in major college football history.  I mean he can't even get within 5 yards on a go route
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Pett on October 02, 2016, 08:03:46 AM
Mods, please change thread title to, "what if jimmy ertz is a complete pussy??"

TIFA
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: KITNfury on October 02, 2016, 08:45:57 AM
Ertz is a rough ridin'  joke and deserves to die
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Gooch on October 02, 2016, 09:21:23 AM
Ertz is a rough ridin'  joke and deserves to die
This may be a bit harsh but I'm all for benching.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Dugout DickStone on October 02, 2016, 09:49:12 AM
He is going to see blitzes the rest of the season.  Even a loser school like ku will blitz his panicky face off
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Cire on October 02, 2016, 11:04:33 AM
Ertz is basically Dylan Meier


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Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Blackcats on October 02, 2016, 11:11:15 AM
Ertz is a rough ridin'  joke and deserves to die
This may be a bit harsh but I'm all for benching.

Can we at least hit him in the knee with the bench? He needs to not be an option.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: kslim on October 02, 2016, 11:14:14 AM
qbr of 28.6
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: OK_Cat on October 02, 2016, 11:44:42 AM
Ertz is basically Dylan Meier


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Dylan was somewhat likeable, though
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: catastrophe on October 02, 2016, 04:09:02 PM
I've been on the fence about Ertz since the beginning, but from my view the guy is just a bundle of nerves. It's pretty obvious he gets rattled on the road against teams with a pulse which contributes to the overthrows and procedural penalties. Of course our coaching staff doesn't help because it seems like they call the game without any regard to what is actually happening.

If I'm right, the good news is Ertz can eventually settle in and start playing on the level of Waters or Klein (minus the durability). He also may never settle down, in which case it will basically be 2015 all over again. In either case, I don't see him ever getting benched for Delton because I'm sure he'll always perform better in practice.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: michigancat on October 02, 2016, 04:32:37 PM
I'm extremely confident he'll also get rattled at home against teams with a pulse as well.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: catastrophe on October 02, 2016, 04:47:54 PM
TTU will obviously tell us all we need to know. If we don't win by at least 2 scores we're in trouble.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: MakeItRain on October 02, 2016, 08:33:00 PM
I've been on the fence about Ertz since the beginning, but from my view the guy is just a bundle of nerves. It's pretty obvious he gets rattled on the road against teams with a pulse which contributes to the overthrows and procedural penalties. Of course our coaching staff doesn't help because it seems like they call the game without any regard to what is actually happening.

If I'm right, the good news is Ertz can eventually settle in and start playing on the level of Waters or Klein (minus the durability). He also may never settle down, in which case it will basically be 2015 all over again. In either case, I don't see him ever getting benched for Delton because I'm sure he'll always perform better in practice.

This is incredibly fair, or we can just continue to make sweeping and final judgments about the dudes career 6 halves in.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: _33 on October 02, 2016, 08:46:33 PM
In either case, I don't see him ever getting benched for Delton because I'm sure he'll always perform better in practice.

He'll also never get benched for Delton because that is what I want and K-State Football never gives me what I want.   :don'tcare:
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: felix rex on October 02, 2016, 09:00:57 PM
I mean, his performance at Stanford was arguably worse.

I guess you could argue that, but quarterback's can win completing 1/2 their passes. It's difficult, but doable. Completing 1/3 of your passes precludes winning from being a realistic outcome.
Yeah I guess he didn't make any failed attempted interceptions with his knee on the ground in the end zone this game which in a way could be considered progress.

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Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 03, 2016, 07:43:23 AM
I couldn't believe the number of go routes the coaches wanted Ertz to throw. He made a few really bad, unacceptable decisions, but most QBs complete less than 50% of the passes he threw. A lot of that is probably on Ertz ignoring shorter routes.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Skipper44 on October 03, 2016, 10:33:58 AM
We saw the same thing from Hubes last year when Baylor and TCU blitzed - it looks like a scheme our QBs can't execute
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: cfbandyman on October 03, 2016, 12:44:41 PM
I couldn't believe the number of go routes the coaches wanted Ertz to throw. He made a few really bad, unacceptable decisions, but most QBs complete less than 50% of the passes he threw. A lot of that is probably on Ertz ignoring shorter routes.

I honestly have been shocked (though maybe that's the wrong word) we keep going down the field as much as we do with him in the passing game. Isn't kinda the idea to give a new QB some easy, short, basically gimmie routes/throws to build his confidence up? We did like 0 of that against Stanford, and listening to Wyattvision while at the hotel in Berlin the last weekend it seemed like the same situation.

I know it was garbage time against FAU, but basically Hubes throws he had in that game are what we should be doing more often, short crosses, WR screens. Hubes make it look easy and other than the WR fumbling after getting a nice gain, it was working very well. W/e LFBIQ on my part.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: TheHamburglar on October 03, 2016, 12:54:30 PM
We saw the same thing from Hubes last year when Baylor and TCU blitzed - it looks like a scheme our QBs can't execute

Dimel has learned the process from Weber. 

1. Be arrogant that you know the Xs and Os better than anyone.
2. Set up a system that hypothetically works well with no deficiencies.
3. After a while, opposing coaches figure it out.
4. Opposing coaches start adjusting in ways that forces your system to react into low probability plays (like long fades).
5. Arrogantly say your scheme works, it attacks the weakness your opponents show (even if the opposition is purposely baiting you because the method of attacking is your biggest weakness too), blame it on the players for not executing your hypothetically correct system.

The beauty in it for Dimel is the Snyder system.  He only has to answer for it once a year in the offseason and Snyder has brainwashed a sect of his players to buy into the personal accountability mantra and only allows those players to speak so they'll fall on the sword.  A large sect of the fan base buys into it because Snyder veils it in "doing it the right way".
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: meow meow on October 03, 2016, 01:15:14 PM
More blame on Dimel please, keep forgetting about Miller.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Steffy08 on October 03, 2016, 03:11:55 PM
We saw the same thing from Hubes last year when Baylor and TCU blitzed - it looks like a scheme our QBs can't execute

Dimel has learned the process from Weber. 

1. Be arrogant that you know the Xs and Os better than anyone.
2. Set up a system that hypothetically works well with no deficiencies.
3. After a while, opposing coaches figure it out.
4. Opposing coaches start adjusting in ways that forces your system to react into low probability plays (like long fades).
5. Arrogantly say your scheme works, it attacks the weakness your opponents show (even if the opposition is purposely baiting you because the method of attacking is your biggest weakness too), blame it on the players for not executing your hypothetically correct system.

The beauty in it for Dimel is the Snyder system.  He only has to answer for it once a year in the offseason and Snyder has brainwashed a sect of his players to buy into the personal accountability mantra and only allows those players to speak so they'll fall on the sword.  A large sect of the fan base buys into it because Snyder veils it in "doing it the right way".

This is exactly what happened in the TCU game.

I will give Dimel some credit for developing a very sophisticated, very good, running scheme.  (Probably attributable mostly to Snyder, but I digress.)  And I agree that you have to adjust your play-calling to expose the weakness of a defense.  But, in some instances, you have to go with your strengths...even if the defense is set up to try to take that away.  Because the alternative is to allow your opponent to dictate the game to you.

It is a balance of playing to your strengths verses attacking the weakest part of the defense's alignment.  But I think Dimel has gone way too far in the "take what they give us" direction, essentially allowing other defenses to have us throw the ball all over the field with people like Hubener and Ertz.

I have no doubt that we win that game on Saturday if we try to pound the ball with our QB running game.  There is no way we score less than 17 points with those sorts of plays being called.  If we are scared Ertz can't handle that, then play Delton or Hubener.  With our defense, we could (still) win the league pounding the rock.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 03, 2016, 04:05:37 PM
The thing is, the defense wasn't giving us the fly route down the sideline.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: delerioustyme on October 03, 2016, 07:20:41 PM
More blame on Dimel please, keep forgetting about Miller.

Jake Waters from Iowa
Jesse Ertz from Iowa

Del Miller from ?????   Iowa. 


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Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: TheHamburglar on October 03, 2016, 07:31:04 PM
The thing is, the defense wasn't giving us the fly route down the sideline.

Top 5 OC Dana Dimel's system says that when the defense shows that alignment, the best option is the fly.  It doesn't matter if they're giving it to you or if you can execute it.  He's just following his super smart top 5 system.  He's done his job.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: bubbles4ksu on October 03, 2016, 08:45:38 PM
The thing is, the defense wasn't giving us the fly route down the sideline.
they were playing man on the wideouts every time they brought heat. and it was pretty easy to see when they were and were not coming. that's giving us the fly route down the sideline if you have a good qb.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: The Whale on October 03, 2016, 09:30:05 PM
Seems like they've been afraid of the QB run game since CK got sketti brained. 

Switching to a pass heavy offense worked for while with Waters while we had the best WR in school history, but hasn't worked since and they haven't adjusted.

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Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Cire on October 04, 2016, 10:23:24 AM
I think pretty much every qb ever will throw deep/has been taught to throw deep when there is no safety help over the top.  That's the correct throw, ertz just isn't good at it.


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Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Emo EMAW on October 04, 2016, 10:25:58 AM
It's not the correct throw if he can't execute it. 
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: steve dave on October 04, 2016, 10:28:00 AM
maybe it's a glitch in my brain computer but I like it when our QB runs a lot and I don't like it when he doesn't. like designed runs a lot. not like he's running away from someone. except bishop, I liked it still when he ran away from someone.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: everyone shut up on October 04, 2016, 10:38:13 AM
This offense will never score enough to beat ttu. Or baylor/OSU for that matter.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: POWL on October 04, 2016, 11:37:10 AM
This offense will never score enough to beat ttu. Or baylor/OSU for that matter.
:frown:

i was so encouraged watching the spring game and now it's like we are right back to last years crap.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Dugout DickStone on October 04, 2016, 11:43:54 AM
we are going to see a major stink bomb Saturday as Dimel tries to prove you all wrong.

My theory is Ertz hates throwing short/intermediate passes because those are the type that you are supposed to complete.  He knows that he will usually throw in incomplete so he winds up and whales it out of bounds down the sideline because hey, that's a tough pass to complete and at least it wasn't intercepted.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: libliblibliblibliblib on October 04, 2016, 12:02:42 PM
maybe it's a glitch in my brain computer but I like it when our QB runs a lot and I don't like it when he doesn't. like designed runs a lot. not like he's running away from someone. except bishop, I liked it still when he ran away from someone.

We have very similar likes
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: ELL3 on October 04, 2016, 08:20:24 PM
The bar has been lowered, Bishop was benched during his second game, Jerry Ertz completes 1/3 of his passes in a time when 65% is the norm and he continues to play
Title: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: sonofdaxjones on October 05, 2016, 07:08:52 AM
The bar is so pathetically lowered it's not even viewable.   

But that's what you get when you have small time Kansas, Iowa and KC kids on the QB depth chart.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Steffy08 on October 05, 2016, 08:55:30 AM
Ertz will play well this weekend.  I could play well against Tech's defense.  If Ertz doesn't play well, that is very discouraging.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: PIPE on October 05, 2016, 09:42:54 AM
Well, my understanding was that West Virginia's defense was bad, gave up a ton of yards to BYU.........and they looked like a ton of all american's out there on d against our pathetic offense.........sooooooo
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: pvegs on October 05, 2016, 09:50:26 AM
Ertz will play well this weekend.  I could play well against Tech's defense.  If Ertz doesn't play well, that is very discouraging.

if ertz is bad against tech, it's time for the nuclear option in hubener. even he put up 44 against tech last year.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: MakeItRain on October 05, 2016, 10:17:55 AM
Well, my understanding was that West Virginia's defense was bad, gave up a ton of yards to BYU.........and they looked like a ton of all american's out there on d against our pathetic offense.........sooooooo

They gave up a ton of rushing yards, which makes our offensive "game plan" that we used look so amateurish.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Steffy08 on October 05, 2016, 10:42:57 AM
Well, my understanding was that West Virginia's defense was bad, gave up a ton of yards to BYU.........and they looked like a ton of all american's out there on d against our pathetic offense.........sooooooo

They gave up a ton of rushing yards, which makes our offensive "game plan" that we used look so amateurish.

Yep...the only thing I can think of is that Dimel is losing the forest for the trees.  It's like last year against TCU:  Up 18 at half, running all over TCU in the first half, getting the ball to start the second half, and we come out slinging it all over the field.  Why?  Because TCU was playing the run.  Well, no crap they were playing the run....because only an idiot would pass in that situation.  But we let them dictate our offense to us. (And, really, with no evidence that they could stop our run game even if they loaded the box with eight guys.)
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: sonofdaxjones on October 05, 2016, 10:54:44 AM
That's the system!  (Hysterical Power Tuck)
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Emo EMAW on October 05, 2016, 11:27:02 AM
Well, my understanding was that West Virginia's defense was bad, gave up a ton of yards to BYU.........and they looked like a ton of all american's out there on d against our pathetic offense.........sooooooo

They gave up a ton of rushing yards, which makes our offensive "game plan" that we used look so amateurish.

I think we game planned to run, it just didn't work very well initially:  first 10 running plays, 21 yards gained.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: DOD Take 2 on October 05, 2016, 11:42:01 AM
Well, my understanding was that West Virginia's defense was bad, gave up a ton of yards to BYU.........and they looked like a ton of all american's out there on d against our pathetic offense.........sooooooo

They gave up a ton of rushing yards, which makes our offensive "game plan" that we used look so amateurish.

I think we game planned to run, it just didn't work very well initially:  first 10 running plays, 21 yards gained.

BYU's Taysom Hill ran for over 100 yards by himself. We didn't utilize the QB run game - which was a clear problem for them - very often and especially early in the game. Also, when you can't complete passes at an acceptable clip it allows them to key more towards the run.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Dlew12 on October 05, 2016, 11:52:44 AM
Ell had a weak 1st year too.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: catastrophe on October 05, 2016, 11:57:21 AM
The offense will obviously get better (it has to), but when our defense is this good and the Big 12 is this weak, we really only need a semi competent offense to be competitive. We shouldn't be struggling to have one.

That said, I do believe Ertz will have a much better game at home vs TTU. Of course, I thought Hubes would improve throughout last year too, so what do I know.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on October 05, 2016, 01:18:14 PM
If we can simply manage a few first downs per drive we have a substantially better chance of winning. We've given up ridiculous field position in our two losses thanks to our dog crap punter and repeatedly stalling out deep in our own territory.  What was WVU's avg starting field position in the 2nd half? Like the 48 yard line? Stanford first half seemed about the same. This is the crap we used to dominate and it caused us to win lots of games.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: MakeItRain on October 05, 2016, 01:50:02 PM
Ell had a weak 1st year too.

I'm assuming you mean his sophomore year. Not to belabor the point but he had a ton of turnovers but man was he fun to watch. Here was his stat line for that season


Passing
Rk   Player           Cmp   Att   Pct   Yds   Y/A   AY/A   TD   Int   Rate
1   Ell Roberson   54   136   39.7   855   6.3   4.2   4   8   90.5

Rushing
Rk   Player           Att   Yds   Avg   TD
2   Ell Roberson   142   643   4.5   9

Look at how different our offense looked

full game, fun game worth a watch

Like I said, I'm all in for Sisco but if the coaches don't trust him they need to sit him for Delton but there is nothing indicating that they would be any less risk averse   
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Gooch on October 06, 2016, 08:37:14 AM
Ell had a weak 1st year too.

I'm assuming you mean his sophomore year. Not to belabor the point but he had a ton of turnovers but man was he fun to watch. Here was his stat line for that season


Passing
Rk   Player           Cmp   Att   Pct   Yds   Y/A   AY/A   TD   Int   Rate
1   Ell Roberson   54   136   39.7   855   6.3   4.2   4   8   90.5

Rushing
Rk   Player           Att   Yds   Avg   TD
2   Ell Roberson   142   643   4.5   9

Look at how different our offense looked

full game, fun game worth a watch

Like I said, I'm all in for Sisco but if the coaches don't trust him they need to sit him for Delton but there is nothing indicating that they would be any less risk averse   
Wasn't that the game Brandon Clarke would catch a pass open by like 20 yds and always get run done from behind?
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: MakeItRain on October 06, 2016, 08:51:02 AM
Ell had a weak 1st year too.

I'm assuming you mean his sophomore year. Not to belabor the point but he had a ton of turnovers but man was he fun to watch. Here was his stat line for that season


Passing
Rk   Player           Cmp   Att   Pct   Yds   Y/A   AY/A   TD   Int   Rate
1   Ell Roberson   54   136   39.7   855   6.3   4.2   4   8   90.5

Rushing
Rk   Player           Att   Yds   Avg   TD
2   Ell Roberson   142   643   4.5   9

Look at how different our offense looked

full game, fun game worth a watch

Like I said, I'm all in for Sisco but if the coaches don't trust him they need to sit him for Delton but there is nothing indicating that they would be any less risk averse   
Wasn't that the game Brandon Clarke would catch a pass open by like 20 yds and always get run done from behind?

Sure, he had 5/125 though
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Steffy08 on October 06, 2016, 11:04:30 AM
The difference is that Ell was clearly a dynamic runner, and we were not afraid to run him a lot.  As of now, Ertz is only a slightly better passer than Ell, but not nearly the runner (or, at least, we don't call those plays for him).
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: kso_FAN on October 06, 2016, 11:13:53 AM
Well, my understanding was that West Virginia's defense was bad, gave up a ton of yards to BYU.........and they looked like a ton of all american's out there on d against our pathetic offense.........sooooooo

They gave up a ton of rushing yards, which makes our offensive "game plan" that we used look so amateurish.

I think we game planned to run, it just didn't work very well initially:  first 10 running plays, 21 yards gained.

We did.

Then we tried to go to what had success in 2012 against a similar WVU defensive scheme, which is probably the correct move in theory. Its just that Klein and his 19/21 for 323 and 15 per attempt while throwing to Lockett, Harper, and Thompson wasn't on the field for the Cats.

Hopefully in the future the guys we have can at least put up 1/2 to 2/3 of those numbers.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on October 09, 2016, 10:08:19 AM
Much better effort. Several drops messed up his completion percentage.

OT: the ttech wrs made some amazeballs snags last night
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: chum1 on October 15, 2016, 12:50:49 PM
(http://i1322.photobucket.com/albums/u576/teamcatlab/ertz_zpsuw9xklpr.gif)
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Katdaddy on October 15, 2016, 01:33:20 PM
WTF is wrong here!!!???  Is Delton that bad!!!  Why do we have the scout team QB in there???
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Super PurpleCat on October 15, 2016, 02:02:46 PM
Poop emoji goes here
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: michigancat on October 15, 2016, 02:03:24 PM
Hubes is better than Ertz
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: steve dave on October 15, 2016, 02:11:12 PM
Hubes is better than Ertz

They are both trash so WGAF
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: michigancat on October 15, 2016, 02:19:45 PM
Hubes is better than Ertz

They are both trash so WGAF
I can't argue with this
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Chingon on October 15, 2016, 02:24:33 PM
It is surprising that QBs no one else really wanted are struggling against legitimate competition.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: pvegs on October 15, 2016, 02:28:44 PM
Hubes is better than Ertz

They are both trash so WGAF
I can't argue with this

i'd probably take hubes, mostly bc ertz is made of glass and occasionally joe make it interesting by throwing way down field for a td or 5 yards behind a receiver on a screen.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: CNS on October 15, 2016, 03:00:39 PM
Our P5 staff should be indicted for stealing our money if these are our best qb options.

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Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: wetwillie on October 15, 2016, 03:42:14 PM
Did they say what the specific injury was with Ertz?
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Dlew12 on October 15, 2016, 03:44:59 PM
Hubes is better than Ertz

They are both trash so WGAF
in this camp as well. 
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Dugout DickStone on October 15, 2016, 04:05:52 PM
Hubes is better than Ertz

They are both trash so WGAF
I can't argue with this

i'd probably take hubes, mostly bc ertz is made of glass and occasionally joe make it interesting by throwing way down field for a td or 5 yards behind a receiver on a screen.

and if we ever actually committed to the QB run game, he can probably do it better than ertz.  Though his attempted juke was fall out of a chair laughing bad
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: MakeItRain on October 15, 2016, 07:13:57 PM
Did they say what the specific injury was with Ertz?

They did not, taking him to the locker room leads me to think it was some kind of shoulder separation.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: chum1 on December 03, 2016, 11:31:11 AM
(http://i1322.photobucket.com/albums/u576/teamcatlab/ertz_zpsuw9xklpr.gif)
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Katdaddy on December 03, 2016, 01:01:01 PM
(http://i1322.photobucket.com/albums/u576/teamcatlab/ertz_zpsuw9xklpr.gif)
Just then, Del tells Dana "I think we got a running QB here.". (http://goEMAW.com/forum/Smileys/goEMAW/bsdm2.gif)
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Demo158 on December 03, 2016, 01:06:59 PM
Don't really understand all the Ertz bashing. Dude's clearly one of the better parts of our team and he'll probably lead us to 10-11 wins next year. I mean, it's not like we've ever been a pass heavy team under Snyder and the only pass heavy QB we've had recently (Waters) was almost unanimously hated on here as well.  :dunno:
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: kim carnes on December 03, 2016, 01:08:02 PM
Shut up demo
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Demo158 on December 03, 2016, 01:09:10 PM
Shut up demo
Good rebuttal...
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: EMAWzifried on December 03, 2016, 01:59:36 PM
Shut up demo
Good rebuttal...
Actually Ertz haters look pretty stupid right now, conceding Kim looks that way 24/7.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Bookcat on December 03, 2016, 02:01:49 PM
This is the first game you could say Ertz was completely responsible for the win...  Put it on his shoulders

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Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: kso_FAN on December 03, 2016, 02:33:25 PM
Shut up demo
Good rebuttal...
Actually Ertz haters look pretty stupid right now, conceding Kim looks that way 24/7.

Ertz haters don't look stupid.... they are stupid.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Katdaddy on December 03, 2016, 02:39:24 PM
Shut up demo
Good rebuttal...
Actually Ertz haters look pretty stupid right now, conceding Kim looks that way 24/7.
(http://goEMAW.com/forum/Smileys/goEMAW/thumbs_up_emoticon.gif)

Ertz haters don't look stupid.... they are stupid.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: pvegs on December 03, 2016, 02:46:52 PM
Shut up demo
Good rebuttal...
Actually Ertz haters look pretty stupid right now, conceding Kim looks that way 24/7.
(http://goEMAW.com/forum/Smileys/goEMAW/thumbs_up_emoticon.gif)

Ertz haters don't look stupid.... they are stupid.

decent shot at a 1,000 yard rushing season
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: ksupamplemousse on December 03, 2016, 03:26:03 PM
Shut up demo
Good rebuttal...
Actually Ertz haters look pretty stupid right now, conceding Kim looks that way 24/7.

Ertz haters don't look stupid.... they are stupid.

Meh, he accounted for a hair over 2k yards, with 16 TDS running/throwing. He didn't have a great year by any means. Maybe Ertz haters are stupid, but I feel like Ertz skeptics still have a reasonable case. If he pushes up those yards to around 3k and gets around 25-30 TDs next year, then I think we'll all be pretty happy. He's going to have to be a considerably better passer next year for that to happen. I don't think that's a solid guarantee, and I don't think taking a wait and see approach is unreasonable.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: ksupamplemousse on December 03, 2016, 03:30:01 PM
Even if he hit those hypothetical numbers next year, that would put him on par with Jake Waters first year at K-State, which doesn't seem like an enormous achievement. So, essentially if he improves his production by 50% next year he has a chance to be Jake Waters. Seems weird that Cats fans would be over the moon about that.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: sys on December 03, 2016, 03:32:27 PM
it's just stupid that we pass so much is all.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Dlew12 on December 03, 2016, 03:34:57 PM
Even if he hit those hypothetical numbers next year, that would put him on par with Jake Waters first year at K-State, which doesn't seem like an enormous achievement. So, essentially if he improves his production by 50% next year he has a chance to be Jake Waters. Seems weird that Cats fans would be over the moon about that.
Ertz ran for 170 yards today, stupid.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: kim carnes on December 03, 2016, 03:36:50 PM
What in gods name are u guys watching
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Bookcat on December 03, 2016, 03:37:12 PM
Even if he hit those hypothetical numbers next year, that would put him on par with Jake Waters first year at K-State, which doesn't seem like an enormous achievement. So, essentially if he improves his production by 50% next year he has a chance to be Jake Waters. Seems weird that Cats fans would be over the moon about that.
Ertz ran for 170 yards today, stupid.

yup
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: kim carnes on December 03, 2016, 03:38:12 PM
Any offense built around your QB running the ball 15+ times per game is a joke
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: ksupamplemousse on December 03, 2016, 03:38:48 PM
Even if he hit those hypothetical numbers next year, that would put him on par with Jake Waters first year at K-State, which doesn't seem like an enormous achievement. So, essentially if he improves his production by 50% next year he has a chance to be Jake Waters. Seems weird that Cats fans would be over the moon about that.
Ertz ran for 170 yards today, stupid.

Absolutely thrilled about his performance today, but he's going to have to sling it around a bit more next year A) because he's not going to be able to run for 170 yards against every team B) he's going to injured if he keeps running this much. I don't think anybody has any concerns about his running ability.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Bookcat on December 03, 2016, 03:40:38 PM
Any offense built around your QB running the ball 15+ times per game is a joke

They have six consecutive 200-yard rushing games
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: kso_FAN on December 03, 2016, 03:42:41 PM
If the narrative is "we suck", make your view of the season and players fit that narrative. Got it.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: kim carnes on December 03, 2016, 03:43:11 PM
Any offense built around your QB running the ball 15+ times per game is a joke

They have six consecutive 200-yard rushing games

you can't run your QB into the ground, man
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: ksupamplemousse on December 03, 2016, 03:50:10 PM
If the narrative is "we suck", make your view of the season and players fit that narrative. Got it.

Is there anyone in this thread saying that the team or Jesse Ertz sucks? Wondering whether Jesse Ertz has the passing capability to take this team from 8-9 wins to 10-12 wins is not exactly a damning critique.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: WildcatPower on December 03, 2016, 03:59:58 PM
If the narrative is "we suck", make your view of the season and players fit that narrative. Got it.

Is there anyone in this thread saying that the team or Jesse Ertz sucks? Wondering whether Jesse Ertz has the passing capability to take this team from 8-9 wins to 10-12 wins is not exactly a damning critique.

You can also argue that some of the coaching decisions cost us 1 win, maybe 2.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: ksupamplemousse on December 03, 2016, 04:01:15 PM
If the narrative is "we suck", make your view of the season and players fit that narrative. Got it.

Is there anyone in this thread saying that the team or Jesse Ertz sucks? Wondering whether Jesse Ertz has the passing capability to take this team from 8-9 wins to 10-12 wins is not exactly a damning critique.

You can also argue that some of the coaching decisions cost us 1 win, maybe 2.

Definitely true.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: sys on December 03, 2016, 04:09:43 PM
if you've got the number 1 defense and the number 1 running qb and the numbers 1s running backs and fullback and the number 1 punter, then just run the ball all the time, dumbasses.

especially if you aren't very good at passing and catching.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Sandstone Outcropping on December 03, 2016, 04:40:12 PM
Complete badass, confirmed.

Our team seems to be stacked with badasses and I have a ton of respect for them and take back anything bad that I ever said or thought about any of them after today.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: catastrophe on December 03, 2016, 05:11:11 PM
Love the way Ertz plays, but we just can't beat good teams if they try to use him more like Waters than Klein.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: EMAWzifried on December 03, 2016, 05:20:03 PM
If the narrative is "we suck", make your view of the season and players fit that narrative. Got it.

Is there anyone in this thread saying that the team or Jesse Ertz sucks? Wondering whether Jesse Ertz has the passing capability to take this team from 8-9 wins to 10-12 wins is not exactly a damning critique.

You can also argue that some of the coaching decisions cost us 1 win, maybe 2.

I, for one, wish they would have called he number one more time against OSU. The problem in the WVA game wasn't so much the plays called but getting the plays called.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: steve dave on December 03, 2016, 05:37:37 PM
If he can stay healthy (he prolly won't but hopefully) he's going to have a hell of a KSU career.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: kso_FAN on December 03, 2016, 05:46:46 PM
If the narrative is "we suck", make your view of the season and players fit that narrative. Got it.

Is there anyone in this thread saying that the team or Jesse Ertz sucks? Wondering whether Jesse Ertz has the passing capability to take this team from 8-9 wins to 10-12 wins is not exactly a damning critique.

That's fair.

I was pretty pleased with how Ertz threw it today. Its not like Klein developed into some pin point passer, but he started by making safe throws and avoiding interceptions and eventually figured out how to get the ball to places for receivers to make plays. I think Ertz is moving that direction.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: chum1 on December 03, 2016, 07:27:18 PM
I was pretty worried that he was going to suck and he definitely does not. I'm still going to repost that Stanford endzone gif everytime he does something dumb, though.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: WackyCat08 on December 03, 2016, 07:33:26 PM
He's everything you guys wanted Sams to be. What's not to like?
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: wetwillie on December 03, 2016, 07:34:46 PM
He's everything you guys wanted Sams to be. What's not to like?

Glass bones, knees, etc
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: troubledscribe on December 03, 2016, 07:46:22 PM
He's everything you guys wanted Sams to be. What's not to like?

Glass bones, knees, etc

Sams was a better passer
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: kso_FAN on December 03, 2016, 07:54:51 PM
He's everything you guys wanted Sams to be. What's not to like?

Glass bones, knees, etc

Sams was a better passer

Ertz and Sams both threw 4 INTs in a season.

Sams on 53 attempts and Ertz on 244.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: pissclams on December 03, 2016, 07:57:08 PM
they call him troubledscribe for a reason
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: WackyCat08 on December 03, 2016, 08:02:05 PM
He's everything you guys wanted Sams to be. What's not to like?

Glass bones, knees, etc

Sams was a better passer
:lol:
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: WackyCat08 on December 03, 2016, 08:03:48 PM
He's everything you guys wanted Sams to be. What's not to like?

Glass bones, knees, etc

Sams was a better passer

Ertz and Sams both threw 4 INTs in a season.

Sams on 53 attempts and Ertz on 244.
Pfftt... Stats. Like they matter.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: michigancat on December 03, 2016, 08:24:44 PM
Ertz deserved the Stanford gif on that reversed call fumble but he's improved a ton throughout the year.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: michigancat on December 03, 2016, 08:26:04 PM
He's a great runner in space, far below average passer. I mean, it's great he hasn't had the int's, but throwing footballs is not one of his strengths.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Dugout DickStone on December 03, 2016, 08:30:59 PM
 Every time he out runs a defense I'm like, wow he is so much faster than I thought.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: WackyCat08 on December 03, 2016, 08:33:01 PM
The Ell story in front of our eyes. :love:
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Dugout DickStone on December 03, 2016, 08:34:07 PM
 
The Ell story in front of our eyes. :love:

Pump the brakes
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: WackyCat08 on December 03, 2016, 08:35:57 PM
A guy can dream  :D
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Katdaddy on December 03, 2016, 09:33:31 PM
He's a great runner in space, far below average passer. I mean, it's great he hasn't had the int's, but throwing footballs is not one of his strengths.
You do know he's got a mumped up shoulder.  Could be from running all the time. 
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: ben ji on December 03, 2016, 09:35:46 PM
I enjoyed his progression this season and expect good, possibly great, things next season if he can stay healthy.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: MakeItRain on December 03, 2016, 10:25:54 PM
He's everything you guys wanted Sams to be. What's not to like?

Glass bones, knees, etc

He's played every game and will likely end up with a 1000 rushing yard season, at some point you basics are going to have to give this up.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: stunted on December 03, 2016, 10:57:43 PM
ertz = klein
pringle = harper
lee = brown

 :ksu:

(https://i.gyazo.com/c2cf544cea48263b7aeb4f961e86e8d7.jpg)
(https://i.gyazo.com/c2cf544cea48263b7aeb4f961e86e8d7.jpg)
(https://i.gyazo.com/c2cf544cea48263b7aeb4f961e86e8d7.jpg)
(https://i.gyazo.com/c2cf544cea48263b7aeb4f961e86e8d7.jpg)
(https://i.gyazo.com/c2cf544cea48263b7aeb4f961e86e8d7.jpg)
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: MakeItRain on December 03, 2016, 11:00:17 PM
The Ell story in front of our eyes. :love:

Pump the brakes

Thanks for reminding me, I called this back in September. Sisco's been way better

   Player          Cmp     Att   Pct    Yds    Y/A    AY/A   TD   Int   Rate
   Ell Roberson   54       136   39.7    855          6.3    4.2          4     8     90.5
        Jesse Ertz   138       244   56.5    1560   6.4   6.2          8   4   119.6


                                Att   Yds   Avg   TD
   Ell Roberson   142   643   4.5   9
   Jesse Ertz   159   945   5.9   10            


Despite seeing these cold hard facts some of you, most of you will be too stupid and hard headed to admit wrong. I don't have to, feels good :billdance:

Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: MakeItRain on December 03, 2016, 11:01:45 PM
ertz = klein
pringle = harper
lee = brown

 :ksu:


No, he's Ell.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: stunted on December 03, 2016, 11:02:58 PM
but he's white
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: MakeItRain on December 03, 2016, 11:14:52 PM
but he's white

His name is Sisco and he's shown support for #blacklivesmatter
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Dlew12 on December 04, 2016, 12:50:39 AM
he runs like ell and throws like klein.  ell had an absolute cannon for an arm.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Dugout DickStone on December 04, 2016, 09:12:13 AM
He throws the hottest stiff arm since I don't know who
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: That_Guy on December 04, 2016, 09:56:07 AM
He throws the hottest stiff arm since I don't know who

Really is a thing of beauty.


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Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: libliblibliblibliblib on December 04, 2016, 10:12:50 AM
Stiffy ertz
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Yard Dog on December 05, 2016, 03:02:34 PM
:love:

Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: steve dave on December 05, 2016, 03:07:51 PM
That was incred
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: kim carnes on December 05, 2016, 03:19:53 PM
Ertz throws like a girl.  He'll never be Ell.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: michigancat on December 05, 2016, 03:42:03 PM
his stiff arms are as mighty as his falls are awkward. Great clip.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: bubbles4ksu on December 05, 2016, 03:48:51 PM
#32 lead tcu in tackles this season and ertz manhandled once and made him look slow several times.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Dugout DickStone on December 05, 2016, 03:52:43 PM
Did the same to that Fish guy for ku, who they think would start for the Cats.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: MakeItRain on December 05, 2016, 04:20:07 PM
his stiff arms are as mighty as his falls are awkward. Great clip.

Apparently after he hurt his shoulder he started doing the barrel roll thing on his knees he's doing now which has led to all of the hobbling he's doing now. This puts the Jake Waters fainting goat in new light. Either the coaches are discouraging these guys from sliding or they aren't forcing them to.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: pissclams on December 05, 2016, 04:21:36 PM
i've said it a million times, the coaches should be charged with multiple felonies for how the abuse their players
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Panjandrum on December 05, 2016, 05:12:17 PM
The coaches haven't really let the QB's throw a lot of slant routes in the past few years because it could lead to an INT.  But they let Jesse throw them.

He has a really, really nice command within 15 yards.  I generally have a high level of confidence on third down that he's going to throw a catchable ball to the right guy beyond the sticks.

If we had a receiver that could go get a jump ball, his YPA would be a hell of a lot higher, and we'd be discussing his bad ass 2000/1000 season.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: kslim on December 05, 2016, 05:13:30 PM
Ummm pringle can jump out of the damn stadium pan. Good lord
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: michigancat on December 05, 2016, 05:13:56 PM
The coaches haven't really let the QB's throw a lot of slant routes in the past few years because it could lead to an INT.  But they let Jesse throw them.

He has a really, really nice command within 15 yards.  I generally have a high level of confidence on third down that he's going to throw a catchable ball to the right guy beyond the sticks.

If we had a receiver that could go get a jump ball, his YPA would be a hell of a lot higher, and we'd be discussing his bad ass 2000/1000 season.

his "jump ball" throws are terrible.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: pissclams on December 05, 2016, 05:17:09 PM
i'd rather have him play it safe.  if he's not confident yet throwing the ball downfield, he's been coached to overthrow the ball and that's what he should be doing.  our offense isn't an issue right as long as we're playing crappy run defenses, which we have for the past month.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: WildcatPower on December 05, 2016, 06:30:44 PM

Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: MakeItRain on December 05, 2016, 06:32:51 PM
He sucks though
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: libliblibliblibliblib on December 05, 2016, 06:40:10 PM
I enjoy the sisco kid but isn't qbr how fanning justifies loving the crap out of Alex "loser" smith?
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: pvegs on December 05, 2016, 06:56:30 PM
Ummm pringle can jump out of the damn stadium pan. Good lord

kslim, i think pan was referring to catching as well
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: slackcat on December 05, 2016, 07:24:47 PM
MUSH MEISTER!
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: WackyCat08 on December 05, 2016, 07:25:40 PM
I enjoy the sisco kid but isn't qbr how fanning justifies loving the crap out of Alex "loser" smith?
No dumbass. Do your research.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: kitten_mittons on December 05, 2016, 07:51:39 PM
The coaches haven't really let the QB's throw a lot of slant routes in the past few years because it could lead to an INT.  But they let Jesse throw them.

He has a really, really nice command within 15 yards.  I generally have a high level of confidence on third down that he's going to throw a catchable ball to the right guy beyond the sticks.

If we had a receiver that could go get a jump ball, his YPA would be a hell of a lot higher, and we'd be discussing his bad ass 2000/1000 season.
He throws a lot of bad balls that the receivers bail him out on.  Even more than the good throws that the receivers drop.

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Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: pvegs on December 05, 2016, 08:00:25 PM
but he's white

His name is Sisco and he's shown support for #blacklivesmatter

this makes me much more #teamsisco than anything he did on the field
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: That_Guy on December 05, 2016, 09:15:57 PM
We wouldn't be 8-4 without Sisco at QB you dummies.


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Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Pett on December 06, 2016, 09:22:20 AM
(https://media.giphy.com/media/3oz8xzqYNvOqMM456o/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Pett on December 06, 2016, 09:22:52 AM
(https://media.giphy.com/media/3oriOaFKUYZjAOWCys/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: SEK_EMAW on December 06, 2016, 09:37:52 AM
Mods - remove "what if" from the thread title and exchange ?? for !!   :ksu:
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Steffy08 on December 06, 2016, 09:38:44 AM
In both of the awesome stiff-arms Ertz gave this season, the tackler was pursuing at almost the exact same angle as when Ertz blew out his knee during the first play last season.  Knee preservation.  I hope he builds up those triceps during the offseason....it's a bad-ass move and keeps defenders off his knees.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: WackyCat08 on December 06, 2016, 09:41:47 AM
Also, I bet he doesn't want to get tackled either!
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: OK_Cat on December 06, 2016, 09:45:59 AM
You can throw every stat in the world, but Ertz is an average qb on an average team.


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Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: kim carnes on December 06, 2016, 09:51:11 AM
I'd say he is slightly below average.  He is a decent runner and a system QB who has looked decent against really really bad competition.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: libliblibliblibliblib on December 06, 2016, 09:55:20 AM
I give sisco kid a 4/7 for his sophomore year
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: michigancat on December 06, 2016, 10:46:06 AM


He's using a special ESPN QBR that factors rushing. He's 9th in the Big 12 in passing efficiency (unless I missed something).

http://www.ncaa.com/stats/football/fbs/current/individual/8/p1

Not saying one is better than the other, just that it's not what most people think when they think "QB Rating".
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Dlew12 on December 06, 2016, 10:56:43 AM
Overall, Ertz was a serviceable QB this year.  Really, I think the only loss you can pin on him is WVU -- and that's because he couldn't make a lot of the throws the OCs (for some reason) were calling.

He improved a ton over the course of the year, and I have high hopes for his future.  He essentially had Klein's junior year as a sophomore.  Imagine a third year with Klein!  Hope Jesse doesn't become crippled by then.

Side note: in two different games this year, the commentators referred to him by "Zack."  What's up there?  Some nickname?  MIR?
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: WackyCat08 on December 06, 2016, 10:58:49 AM
They are dumb announcers.


Quote
Zachary Adam Ertz is an American football tight end for the Philadelphia Eagles of the National Football League. He was drafted by the Eagles in the second round of the 2013 NFL Draft
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: michigancat on December 06, 2016, 11:14:13 AM
They are dumb announcers.


Quote
Zachary Adam Ertz is an American football tight end for the Philadelphia Eagles of the National Football League. He was drafted by the Eagles in the second round of the 2013 NFL Draft

great work, wacks! :thumbs:
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: WackyCat08 on December 06, 2016, 11:24:33 AM
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Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: pissclams on December 06, 2016, 01:23:37 PM
it's time to tighten the screws a bit in this thread.  what's the O/U on quarters missed because of injury next season (due to felonious assault by coaching staff and inhumane treatment of players)?

if i said 14 would i be lying?
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Cire on December 06, 2016, 01:26:32 PM
I could be completely off on this but I feel like early in the year he was running much more power between tackles and now he's running more designed draws or zone read which put him in much better space to avoid contact with defenders.  Seems to have been this way since early conference play.

I imagine year with his better grasp of the passing offense, oline a year better/barnes/warmack and silmon etc he'll see less carries and they won't be between the tackles.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Panjandrum on December 06, 2016, 01:47:06 PM
Ummm pringle can jump out of the damn stadium pan. Good lord

kslim, i think pan was referring to catching as well

There's a loop close that requires catching the ball, yes.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: kso_FAN on December 06, 2016, 02:17:06 PM


He's using a special ESPN QBR that factors rushing. He's 9th in the Big 12 in passing efficiency (unless I missed something).

http://www.ncaa.com/stats/football/fbs/current/individual/8/p1

Not saying one is better than the other, just that it's not what most people think when they think "QB Rating".

QBR is what our fans liked using when talking about Klein or Sams.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: WildcatPower on December 06, 2016, 05:44:32 PM


He's using a special ESPN QBR that factors rushing. He's 9th in the Big 12 in passing efficiency (unless I missed something).

http://www.ncaa.com/stats/football/fbs/current/individual/8/p1

Not saying one is better than the other, just that it's not what most people think when they think "QB Rating".

No I agree with you, and ESPN's QBR has been called into question because it didn't give us a clear picture of it. There was some controversy over it when Tebow who only played half of a game, and had a higher QBR than Rodgers, yet the traditional stats shows that Rodgers performed better than Tebow.

Either way, everyone is entitled to their opinions and I can respect that. If Hubener was still the QB instead of Ertz, I honestly feel this would have been another 6-6 team instead of 8-4. Because Ertz has that dimension that Hubener does not, which is using his legs, it forces the defenses to account the QB which KSU did not had that luxury last year (except whenever Kody Cook was playing).
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Steffy08 on December 06, 2016, 07:09:03 PM
To help keep Ertz healthy next year, and to use the talents of our other QBs, I would like to see us use Delton when we are grinding out the clock at the end of a half/game, and use Thompson for the two minute drill.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: kim carnes on December 06, 2016, 07:10:29 PM
Sams had like the fourth highest QBR in the nation his last year here
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: scottwildcat on December 06, 2016, 07:32:48 PM
To help keep Ertz healthy next year, and to use the talents of our other QBs, I would like to see us use Delton when we are grinding out the clock at the end of a half/game, and use Thompson for the two minute drill.
Won't happen.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: MakeItRain on December 06, 2016, 08:59:34 PM
To help keep Ertz healthy next year, and to use the talents of our other QBs, I would like to see us use Delton when we are grinding out the clock at the end of a half/game, and use Thompson for the two minute drill.
Won't happen.

For good reason, that's insane, particularly the part about another qb playing only the last two minutes of the half in a must score situation.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: libliblibliblibliblib on December 06, 2016, 09:02:12 PM
rofl
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: OK_Cat on December 07, 2016, 12:10:20 AM
Who is Thompson and why does Steffy think he is good?


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Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: RickRampus on December 07, 2016, 06:55:56 AM
Steffy is always bringing the hi iq stuff

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Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Yard Dog on December 07, 2016, 08:26:47 AM
Who is Thompson and why does Steffy think he is good?


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Because he isn't from Iowa or a walk on from Kansas.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: WackyCat08 on December 07, 2016, 08:44:55 AM
Who is Thompson and why does Steffy think he is good?


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He's the highest rated QB Snyder's nabbed in Snyder 2.0 and since Ell. He continues to win the scout team award as well.

https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/1186
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Joker on December 07, 2016, 08:58:43 AM
The coaches haven't really let the QB's throw a lot of slant routes in the past few years because it could lead to an INT.  But they let Jesse throw them.

He has a really, really nice command within 15 yards.  I generally have a high level of confidence on third down that he's going to throw a catchable ball to the right guy beyond the sticks.

If we had a receiver that could go get a jump ball, his YPA would be a hell of a lot higher, and we'd be discussing his bad ass 2000/1000 season.

his "jump ball" throws are terrible.

His jump balls aren't great but certainly catchable.  Some of it has to do with our receivers inability to establish position.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on December 07, 2016, 09:04:07 AM
His jump ball throws usually are targeted to open receivers. He just underthrows them by enough that they have to stop. They wouldn't be jump ball throws if he were a better QB.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: kim carnes on December 07, 2016, 09:11:06 AM
Ya wtf, why don't we have more odell beckham-like receivers
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: catastrophe on December 07, 2016, 10:00:31 AM
His jump ball throws usually are targeted to open receivers. He just underthrows them by enough that they have to stop. They wouldn't be jump ball throws if he were a better QB.

This is my biggest gripe with Ertz. Several times our receivers have had multiple steps on the defenders but have to come back for the ball. Ertz does a lot of things really well, but if he can improve the deep ball over the summer he'll have a chance to have a CK like season.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: catastrophe on December 07, 2016, 10:02:17 AM
He also tends to hold the ball way too long, which would really frustrate me, but it's so reminiscent of 2011 Klein I almost view it as a positive.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Steffy08 on December 07, 2016, 10:10:53 AM
To help keep Ertz healthy next year, and to use the talents of our other QBs, I would like to see us use Delton when we are grinding out the clock at the end of a half/game, and use Thompson for the two minute drill.
Won't happen.

For good reason, that's insane, particularly the part about another qb playing only the last two minutes of the half in a must score situation.

Insane is my middle name.  Steffy Insane 08.

One could argue that it would be insane to ask Ertz to lead us on a two minute drive where he has to throw the ball down the field.  I'm hoping that the insanity associated with this idea is related solely to his bum shoulder.  If not, Thompson can't be any worse, particularly if he is just given this role to focus on during practices.

I know you love Ertz, MIR, and I like him too, but the reality is that his accuracy/decision-making this year do not lend themselves to a two-minute offense.  (Yes, I know he kindof did it at the end of the first half against UT.)
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: MakeItRain on December 07, 2016, 10:23:43 AM
To help keep Ertz healthy next year, and to use the talents of our other QBs, I would like to see us use Delton when we are grinding out the clock at the end of a half/game, and use Thompson for the two minute drill.
Won't happen.

For good reason, that's insane, particularly the part about another qb playing only the last two minutes of the half in a must score situation.

Insane is my middle name.  Steffy Insane 08.

One could argue that it would be insane to ask Ertz to lead us on a two minute drive where he has to throw the ball down the field.  I'm hoping that the insanity associated with this idea is related solely to his bum shoulder.  If not, Thompson can't be any worse, particularly if he is just given this role to focus on during practices.

I know you love Ertz, MIR, and I like him too, but the reality is that his accuracy/decision-making this year do not lend themselves to a two-minute offense.  (Yes, I know he kindof did it at the end of the first half against UT.)

Your idea being ridiculous has nothing to do with Sisco and Thompson. Make Sisco Kevin Lopina and make Thompson Tom Brady. Why in the hell would you sit a guy for three hours that you then rely upon for the most critical drive of the game?
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: cfbandyman on December 07, 2016, 10:30:53 AM
To help keep Ertz healthy next year, and to use the talents of our other QBs, I would like to see us use Delton when we are grinding out the clock at the end of a half/game, and use Thompson for the two minute drill.

I'd like to think we'd use Delton in our Wildcat formation exclusively but that has about as much chance of happening as Thompson doing the two minute drill. Glad MIR already cleaned this up.

FTR I'm probably more ok with Dimel getting some of the Wildcat carries than others on here, but it needs to be significantly reduced, and mostly to very short yardage situations where being a bigger back makes sense and he can use that size to push. The fact we sometimes trot him out there to do Wildcat on anything requiring more than 3 yards (which we've done a lot of) is so dumb dumb baby of Dimel (doesn't matter father or son I blame both) I can't get over it. But Delton Wildcating on first or 2nd and goal from the 4-9 yard line is a great decision and I'd wish we do it more.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Panjandrum on December 07, 2016, 10:41:47 AM
We have zero examples of quarterbacks in a Snyder system making a considerable jump in passing ability from their first to second years.

Literally never happened.  Especially the guy with the funky motion that won the Unitas award.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Gooch on December 07, 2016, 11:40:43 AM
To help keep Ertz healthy next year, and to use the talents of our other QBs, I would like to see us use Delton when we are grinding out the clock at the end of a half/game, and use Thompson for the two minute drill.
Won't happen.

For good reason, that's insane, particularly the part about another qb playing only the last two minutes of the half in a must score situation.

Insane is my middle name.  Steffy Insane 08.

One could argue that it would be insane to ask Ertz to lead us on a two minute drive where he has to throw the ball down the field.  I'm hoping that the insanity associated with this idea is related solely to his bum shoulder.  If not, Thompson can't be any worse, particularly if he is just given this role to focus on during practices.

I know you love Ertz, MIR, and I like him too, but the reality is that his accuracy/decision-making this year do not lend themselves to a two-minute offense.  (Yes, I know he kindof did it at the end of the first half against UT.)

Your idea being ridiculous has nothing to do with Sisco and Thompson. Make Sisco Kevin Lopina and make Thompson Tom Brady. Why in the hell would you sit a guy for three hours that you then rely upon for the most critical drive of the game?
Because Dana Dimel is smarter than you (just ask him) and they will never see it coming.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Steffy08 on December 07, 2016, 12:06:05 PM
To help keep Ertz healthy next year, and to use the talents of our other QBs, I would like to see us use Delton when we are grinding out the clock at the end of a half/game, and use Thompson for the two minute drill.
Won't happen.

For good reason, that's insane, particularly the part about another qb playing only the last two minutes of the half in a must score situation.

Insane is my middle name.  Steffy Insane 08.

One could argue that it would be insane to ask Ertz to lead us on a two minute drive where he has to throw the ball down the field.  I'm hoping that the insanity associated with this idea is related solely to his bum shoulder.  If not, Thompson can't be any worse, particularly if he is just given this role to focus on during practices.

I know you love Ertz, MIR, and I like him too, but the reality is that his accuracy/decision-making this year do not lend themselves to a two-minute offense.  (Yes, I know he kindof did it at the end of the first half against UT.)

Your idea being ridiculous has nothing to do with Sisco and Thompson. Make Sisco Kevin Lopina and make Thompson Tom Brady. Why in the hell would you sit a guy for three hours that you then rely upon for the most critical drive of the game?

If Thompson is Brady, I'm in favor of playing him the whole game.

But to answer your question:  different skills sets, brah.  Thompson (maybe) is better equipped to run a two-minute offense if we are forced to do so.  That does not mean that Thompson is better equipped to run the offense we want to run most of the game.  It's not that hard to understand, really.

I doubt we do it; my initial post said I hope we do it.  So to people responding by saying "we will never do it"--I agree you are probably right.

Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: MakeItRain on December 07, 2016, 12:11:36 PM
Okay, I'll indulge your ridiculous hypothetical. Lets say Thompson has this incredibly unique skill set that he can only maximize his ability in the two minutes drill. Would he still have this amazing skill after sitting for three hours and not having any sense at all of the speed of the game he's entering?
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Panjandrum on December 07, 2016, 12:26:08 PM
Okay, I'll indulge your ridiculous hypothetical. Lets say Thompson has this incredibly unique skill set that he can only maximize his ability in the two minutes drill. Would he still have this amazing skill after sitting for three hours and not having any sense at all of the speed of the game he's entering?

Don't indulge him, please.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: kso_FAN on December 07, 2016, 01:17:08 PM
We have zero examples of quarterbacks in a Snyder system making a considerable jump in passing ability from their first to second years.

Literally never happened.  Especially the guy with the funky motion that won the Unitas award.

This.

Here is a chart of all 2nd year Snyder QBs (and 3rd for Ell) and there is improvement in nearly every category. Note, this doesn't include the bowl game for Ertz, but his numbers are still very solid. Also, this accounts for the average improvement of all of these QBs in their 2nd years (+ Ell's 3rd) and its probably more likely Ertz surpasses the average if he stays healthy IMO.

(http://goEMAW.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/Snyder-QB-Improvement.png)
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: WackyCat08 on December 07, 2016, 01:21:14 PM
That ball security by Ertz.  :love:
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Panjandrum on December 07, 2016, 01:52:32 PM
We have zero examples of quarterbacks in a Snyder system making a considerable jump in passing ability from their first to second years.

Literally never happened.  Especially the guy with the funky motion that won the Unitas award.

This.

Here is a chart of all 2nd year Snyder QBs (and 3rd for Ell) and there is improvement in nearly every category. Note, this doesn't include the bowl game for Ertz, but his numbers are still very solid. Also, this accounts for the average improvement of all of these QBs in their 2nd years (+ Ell's 3rd) and its probably more likely Ertz surpasses the average if he stays healthy IMO.

I've always felt that it's mostly (not entirely) a byproduct of the coaching staff allowing the QB's to do more in the offense.  The diversity of play calls in year two for all of these guys is much greater, and they're allowed more freedom to spread the ball down the field.

Of course, there's always the fact that we drill the crap out of them over the winter in the film room, they get added reps in the Spring and Summer as the clear #1, etc.  But there is something systemic in what we do that accounts for this jump, and I remember how much they opened the book up for Ell, Klein, Waters, etc. in year two.  I feel that's a pretty significant variable.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: catastrophe on December 07, 2016, 01:57:23 PM
Okay, I'll indulge your ridiculous hypothetical. Lets say Thompson has this incredibly unique skill set that he can only maximize his ability in the two minutes drill. Would he still have this amazing skill after sitting for three hours and not having any sense at all of the speed of the game he's entering?

Don't indulge him, please.

I think he's proposing we use Thompson as a closer.  Don't risk injury and keep that cannon fresh.  Genius.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: michigancat on December 07, 2016, 02:01:20 PM
Has anyone insinuated Ertz won't improve?
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: pissclams on December 07, 2016, 02:19:29 PM
i'm somewhat insinuating that it won't much matter because he'll be on the sideline with an injury to some part of his body
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: kso_FAN on December 07, 2016, 02:46:07 PM
I've always felt that it's mostly (not entirely) a byproduct of the coaching staff allowing the QB's to do more in the offense.  The diversity of play calls in year two for all of these guys is much greater, and they're allowed more freedom to spread the ball down the field.

Of course, there's always the fact that we drill the crap out of them over the winter in the film room, they get added reps in the Spring and Summer as the clear #1, etc.  But there is something systemic in what we do that accounts for this jump, and I remember how much they opened the book up for Ell, Klein, Waters, etc. in year two.  I feel that's a pretty significant variable.

I agree and its very significant.

I would guess Ertz's biggest jumps will come in YPA and TDs. Its possible, if not likely, that INT% and YPC will get slightly worse, but mostly because he will be allowed to take a few more chances and defenses will have better gameplans against him. Overall, the efficiency of the offense will go up, especially since he'll be paired with the best SO running back besides Sproles and a very good JR in Silmon. Plus a pretty good group of playmakers at WR. IMO, next year's offense is going to be really good, at least top 30 and probably top 20.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: That_Guy on December 07, 2016, 02:59:31 PM
Who is Thompson and why does Steffy think he is good?


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Because he isn't from Iowa or a walk on from Kansas.

4-Stars! Since we seem to have such good luck with those.


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Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Skipper44 on December 07, 2016, 03:54:42 PM
His jump ball throws usually are targeted to open receivers. He just underthrows them by enough that they have to stop. They wouldn't be jump ball throws if he were a better QB.
I missed most of the OSU game but the only times I remember Ertz throwing the ball over the defense downfield were in the early games of the season (Stanford and WVU) and even then they were touch throws, the "put a fade in a shoebox" TD to Zuber v Stanford is probably his TD pass that traveled the farthest in the air.

The big play on the double move or play action is easily the biggest place for Ertz to improve and we should have a ton of opportunities with what will be the best running game since 2001.  Unless there is another 1Y hidden away on our roster we will have to beat OU and OSU in shootouts and that is hard to do if they don't respect Ertz's arm.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Reboulet on December 07, 2016, 04:10:26 PM
His jump ball throws usually are targeted to open receivers. He just underthrows them by enough that they have to stop. They wouldn't be jump ball throws if he were a better QB.
I missed most of the OSU game but the only times I remember Ertz throwing the ball over the defense downfield were in the early games of the season (Stanford and WVU) and even then they were touch throws, the "put a fade in a shoebox" TD to Zuber v Stanford is probably his TD pass that traveled the farthest in the air.

The big play on the double move or play action is easily the biggest place for Ertz to improve and we should have a ton of opportunities with what will be the best running game since 2001.  Unless there is another 1Y hidden away on our roster we will have to beat OU and OSU in shootouts and that is hard to do if they don't respect Ertz's arm.

Does anyone keep stats for yards traveled in the air? We must rank similarly to triple option teams.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Steffy08 on December 07, 2016, 04:41:15 PM
Okay, I'll indulge your ridiculous hypothetical. Lets say Thompson has this incredibly unique skill set that he can only maximize his ability in the two minutes drill. Would he still have this amazing skill after sitting for three hours and not having any sense at all of the speed of the game he's entering?

Never was a problem for Mariano Rivera.

(Do we have a drop the mic emoticon?)
Title: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: kso_FAN on December 07, 2016, 05:24:00 PM
His jump ball throws usually are targeted to open receivers. He just underthrows them by enough that they have to stop. They wouldn't be jump ball throws if he were a better QB.
I missed most of the OSU game but the only times I remember Ertz throwing the ball over the defense downfield were in the early games of the season (Stanford and WVU) and even then they were touch throws, the "put a fade in a shoebox" TD to Zuber v Stanford is probably his TD pass that traveled the farthest in the air.

The big play on the double move or play action is easily the biggest place for Ertz to improve and we should have a ton of opportunities with what will be the best running game since 2001.  Unless there is another 1Y hidden away on our roster we will have to beat OU and OSU in shootouts and that is hard to do if they don't respect Ertz's arm.

Does anyone keep stats for yards traveled in the air? We must rank similarly to triple option teams.

Well, maybe not triple, but we are an option team.

As for that stat, no, but here are a ton of advanced stats here:

http://www.footballstudyhall.com/pages/2016-kansas-state-advanced-statistical-profile

And yes, we are a very effective and efficient running team with very few big plays, especially in the passing game.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: cfbandyman on December 07, 2016, 06:51:13 PM
I've always felt that it's mostly (not entirely) a byproduct of the coaching staff allowing the QB's to do more in the offense.  The diversity of play calls in year two for all of these guys is much greater, and they're allowed more freedom to spread the ball down the field.

Of course, there's always the fact that we drill the crap out of them over the winter in the film room, they get added reps in the Spring and Summer as the clear #1, etc.  But there is something systemic in what we do that accounts for this jump, and I remember how much they opened the book up for Ell, Klein, Waters, etc. in year two.  I feel that's a pretty significant variable.

I agree and its very significant.

I would guess Ertz's biggest jumps will come in YPA and TDs. Its possible, if not likely, that INT% and YPC will get slightly worse, but mostly because he will be allowed to take a few more chances and defenses will have better gameplans against him. Overall, the efficiency of the offense will go up, especially since he'll be paired with the best SO running back besides Sproles and a very good JR in Silmon. Plus a pretty good group of playmakers at WR. IMO, next year's offense is going to be really good, at least top 30 and probably top 20.

To piggy back on this I've felt in addition to calling more plays, it's also just more grasp and command of the offense. This is season is perfect microcosm of this in that through the first 4 weeks the biggest knock we had was not just play calling, but straight up execution. Tons of false starts, delays of game, and a general lack of any offense flow. It just looked like a horribly misfiring engine. But of course as the season worse on, Ertz got more comfortable, and his ability to better command the offense improved drastically, and subsequently so did the offense. I also thought that therefore the 2nd year was basically the further extension of this. The battle no longer becomes can he get the play in time, but can he read the defense properly and make a change if he sees fit, and that's simply something that you can't simulate in practice no matter how hard you try. The expansion of the playbook and better play calling therefore is more having the command down, so the play calling improvement followed. A bit of can you even walk before I tell you to run.

To bolster this you saw this in 2011 with Klein, while we still took the clock down in 2012 plenty of times, in 2011 it was nerve wracking as hell as to whether or not we could even get the play off, and would it even be an effective play in work.

Side note for _FAN, I like that chart showing the improvement, and I am guessing you just factored the average improvement of Bishop, May, Roberson et al to apply to Ertz numbers, but I personally see his running stats go down, and at the rate of Klein's did in 2012. Not necessarily a nit pick, just it stands to reason that just like Klein Ertz's improvement in the passing game will lead him to need to run less, and the emergence of Barnes and Silmon will mean he'll need to carry the ball less anyways.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on December 07, 2016, 06:56:21 PM
Ertz is a better runner than Klein. I'm not sure his stats will decline there because I think he'll have a lot more big runs and we won't rely on him in short yardage situations like we did Klein.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: cfbandyman on December 07, 2016, 06:56:47 PM
His jump ball throws usually are targeted to open receivers. He just underthrows them by enough that they have to stop. They wouldn't be jump ball throws if he were a better QB.
I missed most of the OSU game but the only times I remember Ertz throwing the ball over the defense downfield were in the early games of the season (Stanford and WVU) and even then they were touch throws, the "put a fade in a shoebox" TD to Zuber v Stanford is probably his TD pass that traveled the farthest in the air.

The big play on the double move or play action is easily the biggest place for Ertz to improve and we should have a ton of opportunities with what will be the best running game since 2001.  Unless there is another 1Y hidden away on our roster we will have to beat OU and OSU in shootouts and that is hard to do if they don't respect Ertz's arm.

Does anyone keep stats for yards traveled in the air? We must rank similarly to triple option teams.

Well, maybe not triple, but we are an option team.

As for that stat, no, but here are a ton of advanced stats here:

http://www.footballstudyhall.com/pages/2016-kansas-state-advanced-statistical-profile

And yes, we are a very effective and efficient running team with very few big plays, especially in the passing game.

And I'm personally very glad to be. In a conference where all teams are supremely challenged defensively, and where we as a team maybe don't lack the horses, being a ridiculously hard offense to stop, and a ponderous one at that is our greatest asset. Don't mind the theatrics of throwing in some big plays now and then, but the 4-6 YPP every play nickel-and-dime, dink-and-dunk, checkdown the field is one of our greatest assets in winning games.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: 'taterblast on December 11, 2016, 07:54:05 PM
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: 'taterblast on December 11, 2016, 07:54:36 PM
also:

Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Bookcat on December 11, 2016, 09:00:48 PM

Man if Kstate goes for it on 4th down against Ostate I bet we win that game....
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: StarsBravesKSU on December 12, 2016, 09:14:58 AM

Man if Kstate goes for it on 4th down against Ostate I bet we win that game....

Same with TCU last year and probably a handful of other games in my 4 years at K-State
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Bookcat on December 12, 2016, 01:08:25 PM

Man if Kstate goes for it on 4th down against Ostate I bet we win that game....

Same with TCU last year and probably a handful of other games in my 4 years at K-State

Oh dammit you like the Dallas Cowboys... ugh!
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: StarsBravesKSU on December 12, 2016, 02:47:31 PM

Man if Kstate goes for it on 4th down against Ostate I bet we win that game....

Same with TCU last year and probably a handful of other games in my 4 years at K-State

Oh dammit you like the Dallas Cowboys... ugh!

I hate it, too.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: steve dave on December 12, 2016, 03:30:12 PM
starsbravesksu kinda reminds people of stevedaveksu. you are off to a strong start dude.  :thumbs:
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: StarsBravesKSU on December 12, 2016, 03:37:00 PM
starsbravesksu kinda reminds people of stevedaveksu. you are off to a strong start dude.  :thumbs:

Just tryin to be like the best. 

Which reminds me, I've got a killer Husker vanity plate to take a pic of thanks to a Corny co-worker.  I'll try to get it today.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: sys on December 12, 2016, 03:39:14 PM
since no one else wants these all run, no pass qbs, why can't we recruit enough of them to have one for every game instead of living in dread that the only good one in any given year will die before snyder has used up every last drop of him?
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: libliblibliblibliblib on December 12, 2016, 07:21:15 PM
since no one else wants these all run, no pass qbs, why can't we recruit enough of them to have one for every game instead of living in dread that the only good one in any given year will die before snyder has used up every last drop of him?

we try sys, but they keep transferring away
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: sys on December 12, 2016, 11:11:58 PM
well sonofabitch.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: MakeItRain on December 28, 2016, 11:56:39 PM
HI EVERYBODY! :cool:
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: kso_FAN on December 28, 2016, 11:57:49 PM
Guys, he's a badass. And the future is bright.

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Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: WildcatPower on December 29, 2016, 12:01:30 AM
Confirmed legit bad ass.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Cire on December 29, 2016, 12:02:23 AM
I thought I heard a little street in his voice


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Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: michigancat on December 29, 2016, 12:03:35 AM
I never thought he would be this good, I'm pleased as punch to be wrong! It helps that Jesse seems like such a great human being and citizen.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Cire on December 29, 2016, 12:03:53 AM
We saw healthy ertz tonight


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Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: wetwillie on December 29, 2016, 12:04:20 AM
if he had said "kstate in da house" on the podium I think my life would have been complete.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Skipper44 on December 29, 2016, 12:05:35 AM
His dad seems like an amazing person and he finally completed a fade so ALL IN MOTHERFUCKERS
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: WildcatPower on December 29, 2016, 12:05:48 AM
You can't get more confirmed than this.....

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Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: kim carnes on December 29, 2016, 12:06:49 AM
How has a&m fared in like their last 7 games?   Just curious
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Panjandrum on December 29, 2016, 12:09:32 AM
How has a&m fared in like their last 7 games?   Just curious

It's fair to only judge him against teams like Alabama.  Those other nine games he had a significant hand in winning...meaningless.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: MakeItRain on December 29, 2016, 12:10:41 AM
I thought I heard a little street in his voice


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Yep, it's been there
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: mocat on December 29, 2016, 12:11:11 AM
Guys, he's a badass. And the future is bright.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C00mcggUAAAzYhc.png:large)

[email protected], MAYNE
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: 8manpick on December 29, 2016, 12:12:14 AM
Dear OP, he is
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: kim carnes on December 29, 2016, 12:14:02 AM
How has a&m fared in like their last 7 games?   Just curious

It's fair to only judge him against teams like Alabama.  Those other nine games he had a significant hand in winning...meaningless.

They are meaningless, that's a good way to put it.  We lost to every ranked team we played.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Panjandrum on December 29, 2016, 12:16:49 AM
How has a&m fared in like their last 7 games?   Just curious

It's fair to only judge him against teams like Alabama.  Those other nine games he had a significant hand in winning...meaningless.

They are meaningless, that's a good way to put it.  We lost to every ranked team we played.

He had nearly 300 yards against a winning team with the likely #1 NFL draft pick on the defensive line.

But, please, continue.  You're definitely in your wheelhouse in conversations like this.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: MakeItRain on December 29, 2016, 12:17:33 AM
How has a&m fared in like their last 7 games?   Just curious

It's fair to only judge him against teams like Alabama.  Those other nine games he had a significant hand in winning...meaningless.

They are meaningless, that's a good way to put it.  We lost to every ranked team we played.

 :party:
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: wetwillie on December 29, 2016, 12:20:00 AM
I can almost taste the heisman trophy. 
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: mocat on December 29, 2016, 12:20:02 AM
How has a&m fared in like their last 7 games?   Just curious

It's fair to only judge him against teams like Alabama.  Those other nine games he had a significant hand in winning...meaningless.

They are meaningless, that's a good way to put it.  We lost to every ranked team we played.

He had nearly 300 yards against a winning team with the likely #1 NFL draft pick on the defensive line.

But, please, continue.  You're definitely in your wheelhouse in conversations like this.

Panj you're supposed to take that as a personal attack by an obsessed dumbass
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: kso_FAN on December 29, 2016, 12:21:26 AM
How has a&m fared in like their last 7 games?   Just curious

If you can't enjoy this, I truly feel sorry for you. And if your just gEing or trolling or whatever, I feel even more sorry for you. Get over your ridiculous self for one moment and enjoy K-State sports or just leave. Really.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Skipper44 on December 29, 2016, 12:23:18 AM
Kim, have you ever met a fighin' texas Aggie?
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: kim carnes on December 29, 2016, 12:24:55 AM
How has a&m fared in like their last 7 games?   Just curious

If you can't enjoy this, I truly feel sorry for you. And if your just gEing or trolling or whatever, I feel even more sorry for you. Get over your ridiculous self for one moment and enjoy K-State sports or just leave. Really.

Wacky, u need to chill
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: WildcatPower on December 29, 2016, 12:26:59 AM
Another thing that should be considered is the O-Line. They just absolutely annihilated the probable #1 draft pick. Frantz held his own pretty well.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Powercat Posse on December 29, 2016, 12:27:23 AM
Last 7 games-
64% passing. 719 yds rushing, 5.6 per carry

I wasn't an Ertz fan early in year, but he is proving me wrong, and he has completely grown on me.
2017 offense could be special with some potential breakout stars ready to emerge
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: kso_FAN on December 29, 2016, 12:29:03 AM
How has a&m fared in like their last 7 games?   Just curious

If you can't enjoy this, I truly feel sorry for you. And if your just gEing or trolling or whatever, I feel even more sorry for you. Get over your ridiculous self for one moment and enjoy K-State sports or just leave. Really.

Wacky, u need to chill

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Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: ELL3 on December 29, 2016, 12:30:10 AM
Last 7 games-
64% passing. 719 yds rushing, 5.6 per carry

I wasn't an Ertz fan early in year, but he is proving me wrong, and he has completely grown on me.
2017 offense could be special with some potential breakout stars ready to emerge

We are kind of like we were in 2011, this does not suck. Ertz Heisman :love:
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: SkinnyBenny on December 29, 2016, 12:45:59 AM
I absolutely respect the crap out of kim carnes for being infallibly dedicated to his trolling effort even after fun qat wins. If you don't get kim carnes then that's on you.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: libliblibliblibliblib on December 29, 2016, 12:57:16 AM
I like the sisco kid
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: kso_FAN on December 29, 2016, 12:57:45 AM
I absolutely respect the crap out of kim carnes for being infallibly dedicated to his trolling effort even after fun qat wins. If you don't get kim carnes then that's on you.

Fair.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: bubbles4ksu on December 29, 2016, 01:04:20 AM
jsisco is super incredibly fast.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Shooter Jones on December 29, 2016, 01:15:23 AM
In all honesty, I enjoy this more because Carnes is such a rough ridin' idiot. Not sure what that says about her or me, and I don't care. Go cats.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: cfbandyman on December 29, 2016, 01:19:02 AM
In all honesty, I enjoy this more because Carnes is such a rough ridin' idiot. Not sure what that says about her or me, and I don't care. Go cats.

Yup, go cats  :billdance:
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: EMAWzifried on December 29, 2016, 12:34:16 PM
One constant in dlew's post-game loser message board threads is "I can't believe we're giving up big plays to a slow white guy."
Dumbasses are so conditioned to think K-State is slow and white QBs slower they dismiss the evidence of their lying eyes.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: The Big Train on December 29, 2016, 12:36:56 PM
I was always on board with this.  Feels good being  :emawkid: from the beginning, guys.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Panjandrum on December 29, 2016, 01:39:20 PM
Ertz has the highest season YPC (5.5) with 100+ carries of any rusher at KSU since Snyder arrived in 1989 with the exception of the following years:

2007: James Johnson (6.4)
2006: Leon Patton (5.6)
2003: Darren Sproles (6.5)
2002: Darren Sproles (6.2)

Jesse had a better per carry average than Klein, Roberson, Bishop, Beasley, Daniel Thomas, etc.

I've said it several times here and elsewhere; Jesse quietly amassed one of the most impressive seasons in KSU history when you look at how rare some of his accomplishments were.  I still can't get over 1755/1012.  That's Ell 2002 good.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: steve dave on December 29, 2016, 01:41:05 PM
ron prince, two of the top 4 rushing guys since LHC Bill Snyder came to KSU (not really but you know what I'm saying about it being weird)
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Skipper44 on December 29, 2016, 01:43:55 PM
ron prince, two of the top 4 rushing guys since LHC LHC Bill Snyder came to KSU (not really but you know what I'm saying about it being weird)
defenses had to respect the laser cannon arm of one Josh Freeman
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Panjandrum on December 29, 2016, 02:03:25 PM
ron prince, two of the top 4 rushing guys since LHC LHC Bill Snyder came to KSU (not really but you know what I'm saying about it being weird)
defenses had to respect the laser cannon arm of one Josh Freeman

He did have a cup of coffee in the NFL. First team JUCO AA.

He was pretty good.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: mocat on December 29, 2016, 03:00:18 PM
DUMB POST YOU SHOULDN'T READ
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: steve dave on December 29, 2016, 03:01:09 PM
I think he's talking about James Johnson
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: WackyCat08 on December 29, 2016, 03:07:02 PM
 :lol:
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Panjandrum on December 29, 2016, 03:12:57 PM
I think he's talking about James Johnson

Yeah. I thought Skipper explicitly said his name, but it was the dialogue in my head.

My bad, guys.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: WackyCat08 on December 30, 2016, 11:22:15 AM
 :lol: He gets it!

Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Pett on December 30, 2016, 11:30:28 AM
:D
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: yoga-like_abana on December 30, 2016, 11:52:07 AM
Jesse  :driving:
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: libliblibliblibliblib on December 30, 2016, 12:02:16 PM
It's so nice to have a likeable person as the qb. It means a lot to me
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: MakeItRain on December 30, 2016, 02:30:39 PM
I really like this about him but I also worry that he responds to ever-y-thing on twitter.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: sonofdaxjones on December 30, 2016, 02:51:40 PM
I really like this about him but I also worry that he responds to ever-y-thing on twitter.

MIR I hope you notice that I have completely recused myself from trying to get on the Sisco Train because I was not nice to him.

I hope to make up for that, and some day would like to re-apply for ridership privileges.

Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: ben ji on December 30, 2016, 02:58:34 PM
I really like this about him but I also worry that he responds to ever-y-thing on twitter.

Could you imagine if he reached a chad may level of cockiness?  :love: :love:

Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: kim carnes on December 30, 2016, 03:02:13 PM
Hey guys, I just looked up Ertz's stats in the bowl game:

24 rushes, 67 yds ( :eek: )
14/20, 195 yds passing

Wow.

Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: WackyCat08 on December 30, 2016, 03:04:25 PM
Pretty sure you forgot about his 3 TD's he accounted for.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: kim carnes on December 30, 2016, 03:05:05 PM
Even more impressive is that he was able to do this against an A&M team that had lost 3 of their last 4 games, with two of those losses coming against teams with losing records. 
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: kim carnes on December 30, 2016, 03:07:09 PM
Pretty sure you forgot about his 3 TD's he accounted for.

Wow thanks, another unreal number to add to his stat line.  Anything else?
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: libliblibliblibliblib on December 30, 2016, 03:08:47 PM
pretty good stiff arm  :eek:
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: chum1 on December 30, 2016, 03:09:32 PM
What's Chad May up to these days?
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: pvegs on December 30, 2016, 03:54:38 PM
:lol: He gets it!


stiff arms and not voting for trump are my two favorite jesse ertz attributes.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: sonofdaxjones on December 30, 2016, 04:03:31 PM
Even more impressive is that he was able to do this against an A&M team that had lost 3 of their last 4 games, with two of those losses coming against teams with losing records.

With their starting QB either out or dinged up. 

Nobody is saying aTm is a great team.     

Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: steve dave on December 30, 2016, 04:31:32 PM
Ertz is an even better human than QB. And he's a pretty great QB.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Katdaddy on December 31, 2016, 08:17:39 PM
I feel bad about talking crap on his weak knees and "forest Gump" brace. 
Now that I see how much he's improved and muscled up, I becoming a fan.  I hope he doesn't get the crap pounded out of him next season, cause he can help us win games.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: nicname on January 01, 2017, 03:38:03 AM
He is pretty badass. I'm looking forward to 2017.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: hemmy on January 01, 2017, 10:56:19 AM
How does carnes make it through life being so miserable?
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Bookcat on January 01, 2017, 09:25:07 PM
Even more impressive is that he was able to do this against an A&M team that had lost 3 of their last 4 games, with two of those losses coming against teams with losing records.

so you saw the pass he threw to Pringle, right? the one that was absolutely perfect, in stride, between two defenders with a window of about 2 feet,?    Would you rate that as one of the best throws ever by a dual threat QB at Kstate? I'm trying to think of some other notables by our dual threat portfolio of awesomeness.  Bishop, Beasley, Roberson..... 

Just admit your hate for him is either trolling, or you effed up by hating on him this hard... He's much better than most Kstater's thought he would be after he got injured by the turf last year.... It happens.

Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: WackyCat08 on January 01, 2017, 09:46:14 PM
Guys, plz do some research on Kim Carnes before reacting. He's an act, only fueled by your reactions.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: mocat on January 01, 2017, 10:09:13 PM
How does carnes make it through life being so miserable?

Posts like this
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: cfbandyman on January 01, 2017, 11:17:37 PM
Guys, plz do some research on Kim Carnes before reacting. He's an act, only fueled by your reactions.

Not to pick on ya wacks, but that sounds awfully familiar
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on January 01, 2017, 11:25:54 PM
Even more impressive is that he was able to do this against an A&M team that had lost 3 of their last 4 games, with two of those losses coming against teams with losing records.

so you saw the pass he threw to Pringle, right? the one that was absolutely perfect, in stride, between two defenders with a window of about 2 feet,?    Would you rate that as one of the best throws ever by a dual threat QB at Kstate? I'm trying to think of some other notables by our dual threat portfolio of awesomeness.  Bishop, Beasley, Roberson..... 

Just admit your hate for him is either trolling, or you effed up by hating on him this hard... He's much better than most Kstater's thought he would be after he got injured by the turf last year.... It happens.

Ell to Antoine Polite in the 03 dr pepper was pretty amaze
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: WackyCat08 on January 01, 2017, 11:51:16 PM
Guys, plz do some research on Kim Carnes before reacting. He's an act, only fueled by your reactions.

Not to pick on ya wacks, but that sounds awfully familiar
Oh, I know.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: WildcatPower on January 01, 2017, 11:57:46 PM
Guys, plz do some research on Kim Carnes before reacting. He's an act, only fueled by your reactions.

Yeah, but his act is getting old, to be honest with you.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: WackyCat08 on January 02, 2017, 12:43:17 AM
Oh ya, he's 90's Pauly Shore these days walking into 2017.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: That_Guy on January 02, 2017, 07:14:36 AM
Even more impressive is that he was able to do this against an A&M team that had lost 3 of their last 4 games, with two of those losses coming against teams with losing records.

so you saw the pass he threw to Pringle, right? the one that was absolutely perfect, in stride, between two defenders with a window of about 2 feet,?    Would you rate that as one of the best throws ever by a dual threat QB at Kstate? I'm trying to think of some other notables by our dual threat portfolio of awesomeness.  Bishop, Beasley, Roberson..... 

Just admit your hate for him is either trolling, or you effed up by hating on him this hard... He's much better than most Kstater's thought he would be after he got injured by the turf last year.... It happens.

He dropped it in a shoebox!


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Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: _33 on January 02, 2017, 08:39:10 AM
Even more impressive is that he was able to do this against an A&M team that had lost 3 of their last 4 games, with two of those losses coming against teams with losing records.

so you saw the pass he threw to Pringle, right? the one that was absolutely perfect, in stride, between two defenders with a window of about 2 feet,?    Would you rate that as one of the best throws ever by a dual threat QB at Kstate? I'm trying to think of some other notables by our dual threat portfolio of awesomeness.  Bishop, Beasley, Roberson..... 

Just admit your hate for him is either trolling, or you effed up by hating on him this hard... He's much better than most Kstater's thought he would be after he got injured by the turf last year.... It happens.

Bookcat shut up.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Katdaddy on January 02, 2017, 09:34:30 AM
Even more impressive is that he was able to do this against an A&M team that had lost 3 of their last 4 games, with two of those losses coming against teams with losing records.

so you saw the pass he threw to Pringle, right? the one that was absolutely perfect, in stride, between two defenders with a window of about 2 feet,?    Would you rate that as one of the best throws ever by a dual threat QB at Kstate? I'm trying to think of some other notables by our dual threat portfolio of awesomeness.  Bishop, Beasley, Roberson..... 

Just admit your hate for him is either trolling, or you effed up by hating on him this hard... He's much better than most Kstater's thought he would be after he got injured by the turf last year.... It happens.

Bookcat shut up.
Kimmy sucks donkey dicks; and anyone who supports him is licking his balls.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on January 03, 2017, 09:07:40 AM
Ertz has the highest season YPC (5.5) with 100+ carries of any rusher at KSU since Snyder arrived in 1989 with the exception of the following years:

2007: James Johnson (6.4)
2006: Leon Patton (5.6)
2003: Darren Sproles (6.5)
2002: Darren Sproles (6.2)

Jesse had a better per carry average than Klein, Roberson, Bishop, Beasley, Daniel Thomas, etc.

I've said it several times here and elsewhere; Jesse quietly amassed one of the most impressive seasons in KSU history when you look at how rare some of his accomplishments were.  I still can't get over 1755/1012.  That's Ell 2002 good.

I don't really like the YPC stat when comparing QBs. Klein was basically our short yardage back in 2011 and 2012 and he was very good at it. That is going to make his YPC look a lot worse, even though it helps the team. I do think Ertz is a much better runner in open field than Klein.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: kim carnes on January 03, 2017, 09:57:49 AM
Guys, just bc someone isn't nuts for Jesse ertz doesn't mean they are a troll.  Get a clue
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: MakeItRain on January 03, 2017, 01:21:50 PM
Ertz has the highest season YPC (5.5) with 100+ carries of any rusher at KSU since Snyder arrived in 1989 with the exception of the following years:

2007: James Johnson (6.4)
2006: Leon Patton (5.6)
2003: Darren Sproles (6.5)
2002: Darren Sproles (6.2)

Jesse had a better per carry average than Klein, Roberson, Bishop, Beasley, Daniel Thomas, etc.

I've said it several times here and elsewhere; Jesse quietly amassed one of the most impressive seasons in KSU history when you look at how rare some of his accomplishments were.  I still can't get over 1755/1012.  That's Ell 2002 good.

I don't really like the YPC stat when comparing QBs. Klein was basically our short yardage back in 2011 and 2012 and he was very good at it. That is going to make his YPC look a lot worse, even though it helps the team. I do think Ertz is a much better runner in open field than Klein.

His ypc is worse because he's the slowest of our rushing QBs, maybe faster than el beaz. Sisco is used in short yardage situations too, he's just a much bigger threat of breaking a 20+ run.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: kso_FAN on January 03, 2017, 01:38:48 PM
Ertz has the highest season YPC (5.5) with 100+ carries of any rusher at KSU since Snyder arrived in 1989 with the exception of the following years:

2007: James Johnson (6.4)
2006: Leon Patton (5.6)
2003: Darren Sproles (6.5)
2002: Darren Sproles (6.2)

Jesse had a better per carry average than Klein, Roberson, Bishop, Beasley, Daniel Thomas, etc.

I've said it several times here and elsewhere; Jesse quietly amassed one of the most impressive seasons in KSU history when you look at how rare some of his accomplishments were.  I still can't get over 1755/1012.  That's Ell 2002 good.

I don't really like the YPC stat when comparing QBs. Klein was basically our short yardage back in 2011 and 2012 and he was very good at it. That is going to make his YPC look a lot worse, even though it helps the team. I do think Ertz is a much better runner in open field than Klein.

His ypc is worse because he's the slowest of our rushing QBs, maybe faster than el beaz. Sisco is used in short yardage situations too, he's just a much bigger threat of breaking a 20+ run.

I think that's true, but this staff has gone away from using the QB as a battering ram quite so much in the redzone. (%run is based on attempts)

2011   %RUN   %TD
QB   54.6%   82.4%
RB   42.7%   14.7%
WR   2.7%   2.9%

2012   %RUN   %TD
QB   46.8%   61.9%
RB   51.3%   38.1%
WR   1.9%   0.0%

2016   %RUN   %TD
QB   40.5%   38.5%
RB   58.6%   60.5%
WR   0.9%   2.6%

Part of that is having better (and bigger) backs, though we did have Hubert in 12.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: MakeItRain on January 03, 2017, 01:52:00 PM
Ertz has the highest season YPC (5.5) with 100+ carries of any rusher at KSU since Snyder arrived in 1989 with the exception of the following years:

2007: James Johnson (6.4)
2006: Leon Patton (5.6)
2003: Darren Sproles (6.5)
2002: Darren Sproles (6.2)

Jesse had a better per carry average than Klein, Roberson, Bishop, Beasley, Daniel Thomas, etc.

I've said it several times here and elsewhere; Jesse quietly amassed one of the most impressive seasons in KSU history when you look at how rare some of his accomplishments were.  I still can't get over 1755/1012.  That's Ell 2002 good.

I don't really like the YPC stat when comparing QBs. Klein was basically our short yardage back in 2011 and 2012 and he was very good at it. That is going to make his YPC look a lot worse, even though it helps the team. I do think Ertz is a much better runner in open field than Klein.

His ypc is worse because he's the slowest of our rushing QBs, maybe faster than el beaz. Sisco is used in short yardage situations too, he's just a much bigger threat of breaking a 20+ run.

I think that's true, but this staff has gone away from using the QB as a battering ram quite so much in the redzone. (%run is based on attempts)

2011   %RUN   %TD
QB   54.6%   82.4%
RB   42.7%   14.7%
WR   2.7%   2.9%

2012   %RUN   %TD
QB   46.8%   61.9%
RB   51.3%   38.1%
WR   1.9%   0.0%

2016   %RUN   %TD
QB   40.5%   38.5%
RB   58.6%   60.5%
WR   0.9%   2.6%

Part of that is having better (and bigger) backs, though we did have Hubert in 12.

I 100% guarantee that if you take #familyfullback's carries out 2016 QB run percentage numbers would be almost identical to 2012
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: michigancat on January 03, 2017, 02:15:32 PM
I 100% guarantee that if you take #familyfullback's carries out 2016 QB run percentage numbers would be almost identical to 2012

I could see it going to another FB type.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: libliblibliblibliblib on January 03, 2017, 02:17:47 PM
Ck7 had a pretty good fullback too but we just never gave him the ball
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: michigancat on January 03, 2017, 02:22:14 PM
Ck7 had a pretty good fullback too but we just never gave him the ball

The offense evolved. The DimelCat may have never existed without #family, but I think there's a good chance that some variant of it is here to stay.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: sys on January 03, 2017, 02:34:52 PM
the problem with him being a complete badass is that it will suck more when he's broken in game 3 of 2017.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: 0.42 on January 03, 2017, 02:37:32 PM
the problem with him being a complete badass is that it will suck more when he's broken in game 3 of 2017.

yeah the sketti brain fear is gonna be super magnified in our minds after what happened with CK7 in 2012 and Ertz's injuries this year
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: kso_FAN on January 03, 2017, 02:53:01 PM
I 100% guarantee that if you take #familyfullback's carries out 2016 QB run percentage numbers would be almost identical to 2012

That's kind of my point. I am glad they found someone else to bash into the LOS in short yardage (2-5 yards) situations rather than the QB. At that point they obviously thought Klein was a better option than Wilson or any of our backs. I'm glad we have bigger backs and that they feel Dimel can take some of that load. I get the nepotism conspiracies, but I'm sure part of the rationale is not beating up the QB when you don't have to.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: kso_FAN on January 03, 2017, 02:57:24 PM
Also, sans #familyFB:

2016   %RUN   %TD
QB   42.8%   55.6%
RB   56.3%   42.3%
WR   0.9%   3.7%
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: michigancat on January 03, 2017, 03:27:52 PM
I also think the staff was kinda trying to feed Klein some TD's in 2012 to look good for the Heisman. (although the numbers don't totally reflect that)
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: delerioustyme on January 03, 2017, 04:52:09 PM
Ck7 had a pretty good fullback too but we just never gave him the ball

That and his Dad wasn't calling he plays either.


Damn!  He trippin' so hard fans are gonna think he done fell off!
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: MakeItRain on January 03, 2017, 05:53:58 PM
I 100% guarantee that if you take #familyfullback's carries out 2016 QB run percentage numbers would be almost identical to 2012

That's kind of my point. I am glad they found someone else to bash into the LOS in short yardage (2-5 yards) situations rather than the QB. At that point they obviously thought Klein was a better option than Wilson or any of our backs. I'm glad we have bigger backs and that they feel Dimel can take some of that load. I get the nepotism conspiracies, but I'm sure part of the rationale is not beating up the QB when you don't have to.

I don't care about nepotism, we give the fullback the ball way too much, don't care who it is or who is calling plays. Fullbacks block, tailbacks run. That has nothing to do with what we were talking about but I felt it needed to be said.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: cfbandyman on January 03, 2017, 06:22:07 PM
I 100% guarantee that if you take #familyfullback's carries out 2016 QB run percentage numbers would be almost identical to 2012

That's kind of my point. I am glad they found someone else to bash into the LOS in short yardage (2-5 yards) situations rather than the QB. At that point they obviously thought Klein was a better option than Wilson or any of our backs. I'm glad we have bigger backs and that they feel Dimel can take some of that load. I get the nepotism conspiracies, but I'm sure part of the rationale is not beating up the QB when you don't have to.

I don't care about nepotism, we give the fullback the ball way too much, don't care who it is or who is calling plays. Fullbacks block, tailbacks run. That has nothing to do with what we were talking about but I felt it needed to be said.

I agree, with both. We do use Dimel way too much, at least for the goal line. However, I'm generally fine with a FB, even in the wildcat, getting a few touches a game. It does spread the load and let him get banged a bit. But it does piss me off that we use him to run almost exclusively to get TDs, especially after a RB (Silmon, Barnes) had done the yeoman's work to get that point. I like rewarding a back that pounded the rock over 4-5 carries for 30 some yards that got you into the position to score to at least be the one to have the opportunity to cash in. I feel like there were 5-10 times this season that happened. It does at that point make it look like Dimel is just feeding his son easy(ier) TDs after all the other guys did the work.

If he does wildcat, he should only be wildcating it from 4 yards or less if we do and it should be to help get first downs. It's nice to have a battering ram if you need it. There were also about 5-10 times this year his ass was running it from 4+ yards out. His is too slow to make a good enough move from that kind of yardage.

IMO Delton should be the only dude in the WC though, he's fast, can make moves, and if need be can (probably) throw the ball, at least throw it better than any of the other RBs + Dimel combined.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: MakeItRain on August 04, 2017, 10:06:01 AM
First of all this thread title needs to be changed to put some  respeck on my mans name. Secondly, how has this article not been a topic of conversation here?
http://www.kansascity.com/sports/college/big-12/kansas-state/article164629512.html
His comments on the perception of his and his teammates talent are perfect. I think I'm ready to anoint him my all time favorite cat.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: steve dave on August 04, 2017, 10:14:06 AM
copy paste please
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: fun muffin on August 04, 2017, 10:17:17 AM
Jesse Ertz and Kansas State have won together. Now they want to win big.

All eyes will be on Ertz, a senior dual-threat quarterback, this season as the Wildcats attempt to build on their 9-4 record from a year ago. An experienced offense returns, and so does a seasoned passer. That’s typically a combination for success in Manhattan.

The last six times K-State football coach LHC Bill Snyder returned his leading passer from the previous season, the Wildcats won at least nine games, piling up 11 victories in 1998 with Michael Bishop, in 2000 with Jonathan Beasley, in 2002 and 2003 with Ell Roberson and again in 2012 with Collin Klein. In 2014, they won nine games with Jake Waters.


Ertz completed 152 of 264 passes for 1,755 yards and nine touchdowns last season, adding 1,012 yards and 12 touchdowns on the ground. He put up those numbers while playing through a shoulder injury that needed off-season surgery to repair. Now healthy, he’s looking for more in what will be his final college season, unless the NCAA grants him an eligibility waiver to make up for his lost sophomore season when he tore the anterior-cruciate ligament on his right knee in the first game.


He wants to make the most of it.

Ertz discussed those topics and more in a wide-ranging interview:

Do you expect to regain a year of eligibility, or could this be your last season of college football?

At this point, I am not expecting to have another year. Right now, this is the last one. I will consider it a present if it’s not. We will apply for one and see what we can do. But I have gone from expecting it to having no reason to expect it. It’s definitely not a sure thing.

Why don’t you like your chances?

I have heard some things about it and how tough it is to get one, especially if you redshirt. If you redshirt, it is very hard to get one. Dante Barnett (a former K-State defensive back) got one because he grayshirted and didn’t redshirt. It is odd it would matter, but it somehow does. I know how difficult they are to get. I know of a lot of people who tried to get them and didn’t. Right now, I’m not counting on it.

I know you don’t love it when analysts say you have deceptive speed. Does that description still annoy you?

I have kind of gotten over it, but there was a time coming out of high school when it did. I averaged more than 11 yards per carry in high school and I was a sprinter on the track team, then I get here and everyone thinks you can’t run because you are tall or you aren’t ripped. You don’t look like you just came out of a Nike factory.

I have the school record for quarterbacks in the 300-yard shuttle test (a drill in which you run 60 yards in five different directions, rest for a minute and repeat). It’s a conditioning test and it’s hard. It’s about three minutes long. I’m not going to outrun Lamar Jackson, but I don’t feel like I run badly, by any means.

What probably annoys me more is when you do something good and people follow that up with, well, LHC Bill Snyder is just drawing the most out of you. That is another backhanded remark I get a lot. It’s weird. Apparently we at K-State are terrible athletes and we are only good for those reasons.

People carry over high school ratings way too much. If you go to Kansas State, you were under-recruited. If you go to Kansas State and you have success, it’s because of the coaching. But if you are Baker Mayfield and you go to Texas Tech and you are where he is now it is because everyone missed on him and he is this great athlete that fell through the cracks. We are a pretty fun team and we make fun of that a lot. Well, the only reason you’re decent whatsoever is because of your coaches. We haven’t had a decent player here in 20 years, apparently. We don’t take it real serious. It doesn’t hurt anyone’s feelings. But you hear it a lot.

One thing you get lots of respect for is your stiff arm. Where did you learn to repel tacklers like that?

Running the ball, for the most part, is just instinctive. I wouldn’t say anyone taught me how to stiff arm. It’s not like I watched YouTube videos on it. You just run and if someone is trying to tackle you, you have got to do what you have got to do to stay on your feet.

You ran the ball a team-high 183 times last season. Do you think you that will happen again this season?

I expect to run the plays as called. It is just kind of situational. If it’s third-and-2 and we have a loaded box and we can’t block everyone, then that’s the reason they are having the running back block. There is a method to the madness. I have no expectations on that whatsoever. I am just going to play to win.

With that type of workload in mind, does it take a certain level of toughness to play quarterback at K-State?

We obviously aren’t built like Alex Barnes and Justin Silmon. That is apparently the eye test we fail, what with our deceptive speed and all. But, obviously, we are asked to do a lot. We are playing running back as well as being a passer. It is tough, but we are all competitors and I have no problems doing it. I enjoy it. I loved last season and I look forward to next season. I have no complaints.

Historically, K-State quarterbacks make huge strides as second-year starters. Why do you think that is?

Our offense has a lot to it. We have quarterback run game, run game, pistol, shotgun, option. There are just so many things to learn. To be good at all those things and to operate quickly and efficiently, experience is just huge. To come back and know what you are seeing and facing in game situations, you can’t put a value on that.

K-State returns eight starters on offense. How many points can you score this season?

It’s hard to say. People want to go by points per game a lot, but teams don’t often hit their points per game against us, because we are holding the ball longer and things like that. The pace of the game changes a lot and that is going to have a big impact on the game and the points. I don’t really care about points per game. I only care about how many possessions we have and how many times we score. Every possession, I want to put it in the end zone. A field goal is disappointing. No offense in history has gone an entire season scoring all touchdowns, so it’s not going to happen, but it’s the way you have got to approach it. I think there is no reason why we shouldn’t be better. We have all been here and played together. We should be improved.

Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: libliblibliblibliblib on August 04, 2017, 10:24:43 AM
Stud answers, love sisco
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: catastrophe on August 04, 2017, 10:45:15 PM
eff I can't wait to watch him play again.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: DKmode500 on August 04, 2017, 11:36:22 PM
I love his swag, honestly i love the swag of the whole team. It's not a knock on the 2012 team, but i like this  team's personality more.

 2012 team was so buttoned up, very business like. Just did their jobs, and outworked teams. This team kinda has more od an attitude they just want to fight everyone, and imo, thats an attitude that the 2012 team lacked. Anytime anyone talked shite or whatever it was 'ho hum, recite Snyders 16 goals, etc,etc' but this team is gonna say 'eff that, we are better than you and we are gonna kick your ass' .
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: michigancat on August 04, 2017, 11:41:03 PM
Ertz has grown on me like no other. What a stud
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: WackyCat08 on August 05, 2017, 02:40:07 AM
I hope he has a PR degree, because he's freaking $ in that department.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: scottwildcat on August 05, 2017, 07:21:52 AM
I love his swag, honestly i love the swag of the whole team. It's not a knock on the 2012 team, but i like this  team's personality more.

 2012 team was so buttoned up, very business like. Just did their jobs, and outworked teams. This team kinda has more od an attitude they just want to fight everyone, and imo, thats an attitude that the 2012 team lacked. Anytime anyone talked shite or whatever it was 'ho hum, recite Snyders 16 goals, etc,etc' but this team is gonna say 'eff that, we are better than you and we are gonna kick your ass' .
I'd take the 2012 team's personality 20 times over if it was coupled with those results.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: MakeItRain on August 05, 2017, 08:30:38 AM
I love his swag, honestly i love the swag of the whole team. It's not a knock on the 2012 team, but i like this  team's personality more.

 2012 team was so buttoned up, very business like. Just did their jobs, and outworked teams. This team kinda has more od an attitude they just want to fight everyone, and imo, thats an attitude that the 2012 team lacked. Anytime anyone talked shite or whatever it was 'ho hum, recite Snyders 16 goals, etc,etc' but this team is gonna say 'eff that, we are better than you and we are gonna kick your ass' .
I'd take the 2012 team's personality 20 times over if it was coupled with those results.

LOL. The hottest of takes.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: TheHamburglar on August 05, 2017, 08:44:35 AM
I don't know who in the AD is feeding him the eligibility info, but the whole 6th year thing is weird.  I'm glad they're making him geel like he's being screwed because it seems like it's putting another chip in his shoulder.  However, the rules around the 5 year clock & getting a 6th year back are pretty clear & he doesn't meet the criteria.  I'm not sure why they ever lead him to believe it was a good possibility to begin with.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: scottwildcat on August 06, 2017, 03:45:19 PM
I love his swag, honestly i love the swag of the whole team. It's not a knock on the 2012 team, but i like this  team's personality more.

 2012 team was so buttoned up, very business like. Just did their jobs, and outworked teams. This team kinda has more od an attitude they just want to fight everyone, and imo, thats an attitude that the 2012 team lacked. Anytime anyone talked shite or whatever it was 'ho hum, recite Snyders 16 goals, etc,etc' but this team is gonna say 'eff that, we are better than you and we are gonna kick your ass' .
I'd take the 2012 team's personality 20 times over if it was coupled with those results.

LOL. The hottest of takes.
It's a hot take that I'd take no personality if that meant an 11-1 regular season?
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: mocat on August 06, 2017, 03:49:14 PM
It's not
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: MakeItRain on August 06, 2017, 04:33:19 PM
I love his swag, honestly i love the swag of the whole team. It's not a knock on the 2012 team, but i like this  team's personality more.

 2012 team was so buttoned up, very business like. Just did their jobs, and outworked teams. This team kinda has more od an attitude they just want to fight everyone, and imo, thats an attitude that the 2012 team lacked. Anytime anyone talked shite or whatever it was 'ho hum, recite Snyders 16 goals, etc,etc' but this team is gonna say 'eff that, we are better than you and we are gonna kick your ass' .
I'd take the 2012 team's personality 20 times over if it was coupled with those results.

LOL. The hottest of takes.
It's a hot take that I'd take no personality if that meant an 11-1 regular season?

It was sarcasm, your point quite obviously goes without saying. No one in the world would take a few more losses in place of some good quotes. The fact that you felt it necessary to make that point is relatively amazing.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Trim on August 06, 2017, 04:49:11 PM
Is this picture old?

http://www.kstatesports.com/sport/m-footbl/2017/roster/5589bfc7e4b09d6fde8f3a62
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: DKmode500 on August 06, 2017, 05:21:40 PM
Yeah i didn't really mean that the 2012 team was unlikeable or had a undesirable attitude, theirs obviously served them well. It was just an observation that the 2012 team was all business like and buttoned up. Just feel like this team has a lot more fire in their attitudes and PERSONALLY i like it more
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: steve dave on August 07, 2017, 07:49:56 AM
Chris Harper is one of the most likable Cats OAT
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: purplehaze on August 08, 2017, 01:50:34 PM
The two biggest stars on 12 were Klein and Brown, both very polite, not overly swag-ish, yes sir/ma'am, etc. Sisco and Reed are much more outspoken, but not in a way that is problematic. It will be interesting to see how they stack up, the 12 team most likely had a better defense but 17 looks to be more explosive offense. Obvi hope the results are similar.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: meow meow on August 08, 2017, 01:54:42 PM
can i get some more comparos to the 2012 team, this is compelling stuff
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: mocat on August 08, 2017, 02:06:15 PM
honest Q: would you even be able to enjoy a national championship in USA's largest sport if your team was a bunch of poindexters?
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Katdaddy on August 08, 2017, 02:30:40 PM
honest Q: would you even be able to enjoy a national championship in USA's largest sport if your team was a bunch of poindexters?
Depends, what is the star rating of these poindexters?
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: PurpleOil on August 08, 2017, 03:25:40 PM
honest Q: would you even be able to enjoy a national championship in USA's largest sport if your team was a bunch of poindexters?

Not trying to be a downer, but the 2017 team is not going to be better than the 2012 team.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: mocat on August 08, 2017, 03:28:26 PM
i just don't know if i could enjoy a national championship football run if they went the whole season without a 15 yard taunting penalty
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: WackyCat08 on August 08, 2017, 03:44:42 PM
i just don't know if i could enjoy a national championship football run if they went the whole season without a 15 yard taunting penalty
(https://usatthebiglead.files.wordpress.com/2016/12/kansas-state-called-for-taunting-against-tamu-in-bowl-game.gif)
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: catastrophe on August 08, 2017, 03:45:20 PM
I would enjoy the eff out of that hypothetical season.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: sonofdaxjones on August 08, 2017, 04:27:13 PM
From a talent and personality perspective Snyder 2.0, with noted exceptions, has been boring AF.

But that fits the Tuck Nation, doing it the "right way" narrative.

#family





Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: manpow5 on August 08, 2017, 06:31:06 PM
I could go for a mid to late 80's Miami team season
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: wetwillie on August 08, 2017, 06:48:05 PM
From a talent and personality perspective Snyder 2.0, with noted exceptions, has been boring AF.

But that fits the Tuck Nation, doing it the "right way" narrative.

#family







Which exceptions are you noting? 
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: WackyCat08 on August 08, 2017, 08:31:08 PM
His youth and current lost memory from
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: sonofdaxjones on August 08, 2017, 10:10:17 PM
From a talent and personality perspective Snyder 2.0, with noted exceptions, has been boring AF.

But that fits the Tuck Nation, doing it the "right way" narrative.

#family







Which exceptions are you noting?

A Brown, C Harper, TLBL coupla others.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: DKmode500 on August 08, 2017, 10:15:18 PM
honest Q: would you even be able to enjoy a national championship in USA's largest sport if your team was a bunch of poindexters?

Not trying to be a downer, but the 2017 team is not going to be better than the 2012 team.

 And the 2012 team wasnt remotely close to being as good as our 2002 or 2003 teams. So what?

 But i personally think yes, this offense has potential to be better than 2012. So there's that
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: michigancat on August 08, 2017, 10:16:59 PM
everyone that isn't talking about how Ertz is awesome or our team swagger is awesome please shut the eff up thanks
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: sonofdaxjones on August 08, 2017, 10:36:30 PM
everyone that isn't talking about how Ertz is awesome or our team swagger is awesome please shut the eff up thanks

Okay CrustyTuck.

I do admit that we seem to have a little swagger. 

Even the Iowan had a good one about LOL'ing at all the people who think Kstate is so unathletic. 

Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Katdaddy on August 08, 2017, 10:36:52 PM
From a talent and personality perspective Snyder 2.0, with noted exceptions, has been boring AF.

But that fits the Tuck Nation, doing it the "right way" narrative.

#family
I don't know if that's totally true; cause I enjoyed the eff out of 2011=12. (http://goEMAW.com/forum/Smileys/goEMAW/bsdm2.gif)
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Tobias on August 08, 2017, 11:16:42 PM
an overwhelmingly tuck opinion by michimichmichicat for certain
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: sonofdaxjones on August 08, 2017, 11:17:55 PM
an overwhelmingly tuck opinion by michimichmichicat for certain

Agreed and well stated BTW.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: michigancat on August 08, 2017, 11:50:49 PM
everyone that isn't talking about how Ertz is awesome or our team swagger is awesome please shut the eff up thanks

Okay CrustyTuck.

I do admit that we seem to have a little swagger. 

Even the Iowan had a good one about LOL'ing at all the people who think Kstate is so unathletic. 



odd namecalling aside, the entire post was acceptable. so I'll allow it
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: SkinnyBenny on August 09, 2017, 12:26:28 AM
From a talent and personality perspective Snyder 2.0, with noted exceptions, has been boring AF.

But that fits the Tuck Nation, doing it the "right way" narrative.

#family


Daniel Sams stotted and went to jail for a bit in connection with a murder charge :dunno:
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: KITNfury on August 09, 2017, 09:13:36 AM
From a talent and personality perspective Snyder 2.0, with noted exceptions, has been boring AF.

But that fits the Tuck Nation, doing it the "right way" narrative.

#family


Daniel Sams stotted and went to jail for a bit in connection with a murder charge :dunno:
Whatever happened w/ that?
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Gooch on August 09, 2017, 09:15:24 AM
i just don't know if i could enjoy a national championship football run if they went the whole season without a 15 yard taunting penalty
(https://usatthebiglead.files.wordpress.com/2016/12/kansas-state-called-for-taunting-against-tamu-in-bowl-game.gif)
This was horrendously stupid but very very funny.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: meow meow on August 09, 2017, 09:27:14 AM
Goal #17:  if you're gonna tea bag someone on the field, do so with authority, every time
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: WackyCat08 on August 09, 2017, 09:34:32 AM
 :thumbs:
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: kstate16 on August 09, 2017, 01:16:55 PM
From a talent and personality perspective Snyder 2.0, with noted exceptions, has been boring AF.

But that fits the Tuck Nation, doing it the "right way" narrative.

#family

I want to say they dropped the charges on DSams, but can't find anything on it.

Daniel Sams stotted and went to jail for a bit in connection with a murder charge :dunno:
Whatever happened w/ that?
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: BigPapi on August 10, 2017, 09:47:44 AM
Mods, please rename thread in honor of Jesse's demonstrated complete badassery.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: BushBlister on August 10, 2017, 10:36:33 AM
Mods, please rename thread in honor of Jesse's demonstrated complete badassery.

done
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: KITNfury on August 10, 2017, 11:27:35 AM
Mods, please rename thread in honor of Jesse's demonstrated complete badassery.

done
lol
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: cas4ksu on August 10, 2017, 03:52:48 PM
Chris Harper is one of the most likable Cats OAT

Did you see about a month ago on Facebook he had a status talking about his past addiction to pr0n? Very WTF.
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Tobias on August 10, 2017, 03:58:06 PM
til that harper is also a mammoth man
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: 8manpick on August 11, 2017, 02:21:03 PM
honest Q: would you even be able to enjoy a national championship in USA's largest sport if your team was a bunch of poindexters?

Not trying to be a downer, but the 2017 team is not going to be better than the 2012 team.

 And the 2012 team wasnt remotely close to being as good as our 2002 or 2003 teams. So what?
Lol no
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: ben ji on August 31, 2017, 11:07:39 AM


Oh my

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Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: hatingfrancisco on August 31, 2017, 11:15:15 AM
https://youtu.be/CmM4LQ7mANg

Oh my

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:love:
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Dugout DickStone on August 31, 2017, 11:16:14 AM
Jesse's Hurl
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: MakeItRain on August 31, 2017, 11:31:28 AM


Oh my

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 :love: after all of that there were some browns on this board discussing the possibility of this dude losing his job to a freshman :lol:
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: cfbandyman on August 31, 2017, 12:01:08 PM
Great music choice as well. The people's stiff arm :love:
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: MakeItRain on September 02, 2017, 08:39:52 PM
Not a good passer, right guys?
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: MixBerryCrunch on September 02, 2017, 08:40:39 PM
Not a good passer, right guys?

 :ksu:
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: MakeItRain on September 02, 2017, 08:43:41 PM
Most people on this board were just so comically wrong about this dude, I will never stop bathing it in.
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: SkinnyBenny on September 02, 2017, 09:48:23 PM
Most people on this board were just so comically wrong about this dude, I will never stop bathing it in.

:D
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: kso_FAN on September 02, 2017, 10:05:52 PM
Most people on this board were just so comically wrong about this dude, I will never stop bathing it in.

He also probably missed 2-3 pretty open throws. Could've been around 400 yards through 3 quarters. He looks really good.
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: pissclams on September 02, 2017, 10:38:10 PM
Most people on this board were just so comically wrong about this dude, I will never stop bathing it in.

i like him because he's good
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: GoodForAnother on September 02, 2017, 10:51:13 PM
Is 10 completions for 333 yards good?
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on September 02, 2017, 10:52:10 PM
Is 10 completions for 333 yards good?

It's like we have Bishop back.
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: The Big Train on September 02, 2017, 11:00:15 PM
Is 10 completions for 333 yards good?

It's like we have Bishop back.

He was at the game today!
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: kso_FAN on September 02, 2017, 11:07:04 PM
Is 10 completions for 333 yards good?

It's like we have Bishop back.

He was at the game today!

Yes. It made me feel old. Bishops first season and the Fiesta Bowl win was 20 YEARS AGO!
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: The Big Train on September 02, 2017, 11:14:01 PM
Is 10 completions for 333 yards good?

It's like we have Bishop back.

He was at the game today!

Yes. It made me feel old. Bishops first season and the Fiesta Bowl win was 20 YEARS AGO!

I may have only been 9 but I remember going to that game like it was yesterday.  So much fun.
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: MakeItRain on September 02, 2017, 11:56:56 PM
Bish and Darnell and Jeff Kelly
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: MakeItRain on September 03, 2017, 12:00:05 AM
Sisco's best pass tonight was the 8 yard touchdown.
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: libliblibliblibliblib on September 03, 2017, 12:14:15 AM
Sisco's best pass tonight was the 8 yard touchdown.

Really nice  :thumbs:
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 03, 2017, 10:33:44 AM
Hernia
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Dugout DickStone on September 03, 2017, 12:35:30 PM
I was on mr td long ago
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: BackPayne on September 03, 2017, 12:49:16 PM
His first few throws were just a touch off, not surprising for first game. His later throws looked very good.

We looked like a completely different offense with our passing and faster pace.  I like it!
Title: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: catastrophe on September 03, 2017, 02:47:00 PM
Ertz makes me excited to watch Cats football and even if we were down by 20 in the fourth quarter I believe he would get us the W.
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: scottwildcat on September 03, 2017, 04:13:15 PM
Hernia
Oh no
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Dlew12 on September 03, 2017, 04:18:37 PM
Sisco's best pass tonight was the 8 yard touchdown.
The TD pass to Harris was also v impressive.

Super excited to see what he does this year with this group of wideouts.  I love them all.
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: ben ji on September 05, 2017, 09:05:43 PM
Whats that? Just the little ole humpty dumpty Associated Press getting all up on our guy JSisco16.

http://collegefootball.ap.org/article/k-state-quarterback-jesse-ertz-has-big-opening-weekend

Quote
The nation's most efficient passer during the first true weekend of the college football season was not Heisman Trophy winner Lamar Jackson, top NFL prospects Sam Darnold and Josh Rosen, or even one of the highly touted quarterbacks in the SEC.

In fact, it was a quarterback who is known more for using his legs.

Jesse Ertz put together the kind of performance for No. 19 Kansas State in a Week 1 blitz of Central Arkansas that turned some heads. He was 10 of 16 for 333 yards and four touchdowns, three of them from 50 yards or more, for a school-record 319.8 passer rating — all in just three quarters of work.
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Steffy08 on September 05, 2017, 10:05:14 PM
Hernia
Oh no

WTF?!?
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Shooter Jones on September 06, 2017, 10:29:41 AM
Hernia
Oh no

WTF?!?

grumblings of a left hand hernia?
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: DOD Take 2 on September 06, 2017, 11:19:56 AM
Whats that? Just the little ole humpty dumpty Associated Press getting all up on our guy JSisco16.

http://collegefootball.ap.org/article/k-state-quarterback-jesse-ertz-has-big-opening-weekend

Quote
The nation's most efficient passer during the first true weekend of the college football season was not Heisman Trophy winner Lamar Jackson, top NFL prospects Sam Darnold and Josh Rosen, or even one of the highly touted quarterbacks in the SEC.

In fact, it was a quarterback who is known more for using his legs.

Jesse Ertz put together the kind of performance for No. 19 Kansas State in a Week 1 blitz of Central Arkansas that turned some heads. He was 10 of 16 for 333 yards and four touchdowns, three of them from 50 yards or more, for a school-record 319.8 passer rating — all in just three quarters of work.

Uh, what highly touted QBs in the SEC are they referring to?
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: bubbles4ksu on September 06, 2017, 11:22:09 AM
hurts. everyone else is bad and/or plays for a four loss team.
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: MakeItRain on September 06, 2017, 12:10:05 PM
Hernia
Oh no

WTF?!?

grumblings of a left hand hernia?

He's not hurt at all
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: mocat on September 06, 2017, 12:28:54 PM
Hernia
Oh no

WTF?!?

grumblings of a left hand hernia?

He's not hurt at all

yeah i think dax was just talking about his own injury, sustained during his weekly post-church service dump
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: libliblibliblibliblib on September 06, 2017, 12:29:41 PM
Eek, T's&p's dax
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Steffy08 on September 06, 2017, 12:46:41 PM
Hernia
Oh no

WTF?!?

grumblings of a left hand hernia?

He's not hurt at all

yeah i think dax was just talking about his own injury, sustained during his weekly post-church service dump

I would usually feel sorry for dax, but his poor thread choice prevents it
Title: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 06, 2017, 01:07:12 PM
Reports were a hand hernia.

Otherwise, weird series of posts.
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: MakeItRain on September 06, 2017, 01:21:54 PM
He received no treatment on the sideline after he came out, the tweet was a stupid, blatant lie.
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: bubbles4ksu on September 06, 2017, 01:25:17 PM
looked fine here in post-game interview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fO93shBDPYE&t=1s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fO93shBDPYE&t=1s)
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on September 06, 2017, 01:51:38 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/2WXRQxE.gif)
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Shooter Jones on September 06, 2017, 01:52:44 PM
Fitz said he was completely fine so I assumed his hand was mumped.
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: bubbles4ksu on September 06, 2017, 01:58:16 PM
 :frown:
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 06, 2017, 02:07:48 PM
Wasn't a tweet.

Relax people.
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: wetwillie on September 06, 2017, 04:52:17 PM
Keep with the updates Dax, these sunshine pumpers only want good news and refuse to listen to any bad news
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: yoga-like_abana on September 06, 2017, 04:55:05 PM
dax if you ever branch of from gE just let me know and I'll get you my email to subscribe to daxcats.com
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: steve dave on September 06, 2017, 06:33:13 PM
KK also told me hand mumped so don't dogpile on dax
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 06, 2017, 07:11:11 PM
dax if you ever branch of from gE just let me know and I'll get you my email to subscribe to daxcats.com

What to call the paid content forum?

Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Chingon on September 06, 2017, 07:12:49 PM
Daxwars.com
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: The Big Train on September 06, 2017, 07:20:17 PM
:D
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: MakeItRain on September 06, 2017, 07:45:28 PM
KK also told me hand mumped so don't dogpile on dax

Well I told you that he was standing in front of me the entire 4th quarter and the trainers never looked at him.
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: libliblibliblibliblib on September 06, 2017, 08:23:18 PM
prob hurt it at midnight practice
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: catastrophe on September 06, 2017, 08:47:10 PM
prob hurt it at midnight practice

Can Greg confirm this?
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: The Big Train on September 06, 2017, 08:59:46 PM
Relax guys
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: meow meow on September 07, 2017, 08:22:16 AM
sisco's south paw is tearing this board apart  :frown:
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Kat Kid on September 07, 2017, 09:25:05 AM
KK also told me hand mumped so don't dogpile on dax

No, I said there were rumors his hand was f'd and was looking for any other info.
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: mocat on September 07, 2017, 09:27:05 AM
The board has a hernia :frown:
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on September 07, 2017, 09:36:38 AM
As far as injuries that our QBs regularly play through go, a boogered up left hand seems fairly minor. I'm sure Jesse will be ok.
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Kat Kid on September 07, 2017, 09:40:45 AM
HE IS FINE!
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: chum1 on September 07, 2017, 11:39:29 AM
He hurt it before the game. So, obviously it's not as serious as Fitz said it was.
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: mocat on September 07, 2017, 12:59:23 PM
fitz has been sitting on ertz's hand and that's what injured it
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: ChiCat on September 07, 2017, 01:03:28 PM
fitz has been sitting on ertz's hand and that's what injured it

lol
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Cire on September 08, 2017, 10:23:11 AM
pfft
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: michigancat on September 09, 2017, 11:30:44 AM
@makeitrain, you were 100% right and I was 100% wrong about Ertz. He's better than Klein and right up there with Ell. Watching him run is amazing. His passing has improved a ton. Let's enjoy this together. :cheers:
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: libliblibliblibliblib on September 09, 2017, 11:31:46 AM
That last run was stotting level swag
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: michigancat on September 09, 2017, 11:32:48 AM
That last run was stotting level swag

It was pure hot sex. He may be a better runner than Ell.
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: pissclams on September 09, 2017, 12:50:29 PM
looks like someone has been bit by the ertz bug
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: michigancat on September 09, 2017, 12:55:45 PM
looks like someone has been by the ertz bug
I'm infected

:love:
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: wetwillie on September 09, 2017, 01:27:15 PM
I need a signature win out of Ertz to cup his balls fully. 
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: WackyCat08 on September 09, 2017, 01:30:50 PM
He makes me question my sexuality.
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: SdK on September 09, 2017, 03:11:48 PM
Few people are 100% straight or gay anyway.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: chum1 on September 09, 2017, 03:22:12 PM
(http://i1322.photobucket.com/albums/u576/teamcatlab/ertz_zpsuw9xklpr.gif)
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: The Big Train on September 09, 2017, 03:27:22 PM
Seems like a badass to me
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: MakeItRain on September 09, 2017, 04:02:55 PM
@makeitrain, you were 100% right and I was 100% wrong about Ertz. He's better than Klein and right up there with Ell. Watching him run is amazing. His passing has improved a ton. Let's enjoy this together. :cheers:

 :cheers:
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: bubbles4ksu on September 11, 2017, 09:46:02 AM
ESPN TQBR (http://www.espn.com/ncf/qbr)

Idk if I love this metric but I'll take it when it says nice things about our guy. ESPN claims TQBR accounts for the quality of opponent. Right now the Big XII has five of the top eight QBs. Kenny Hill is 28, Bender and Buchele are 93 and 95, respectively. Wgaf about Iowa State.

The Vandy dude Schumer is #1.  :ohno:
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: meow meow on September 11, 2017, 09:50:03 AM
how does that factor in our pretty good secondary and pretty average front 7?
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: SdK on September 11, 2017, 10:31:11 AM
I like my QBR raw. Oh baby I like it raaaaaaaaaaaaaawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww. Jerry Ertz #2!
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: I_have_purplewood on September 11, 2017, 12:26:13 PM
Do you think Ertz knows about the 'hit squad'?   :dunno: (ftp://:dunno:)  Trick question, of course he does..   :gocho: (ftp://:gocho:)
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: steve dave on September 11, 2017, 12:53:44 PM
ESPN TQBR (http://www.espn.com/ncf/qbr)

Idk if I love this metric but I'll take it when it says nice things about our guy. ESPN claims TQBR accounts for the quality of opponent. Right now the Big XII has five of the top eight QBs. Kenny Hill is 28, Bender and Buchele are 93 and 95, respectively. Wgaf about Iowa State.

The Vandy dude Schumer is #1.  :ohno:

This is the metric that Daniel Sams dominated as well
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: libliblibliblibliblib on September 11, 2017, 09:13:13 PM
amazing

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DJdaMjZUQAAFrS9.jpg:large)
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: pissclams on September 11, 2017, 09:36:52 PM
nepal night in da house
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: stunted on September 16, 2017, 09:21:43 PM
 :buh-bye:
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: chum1 on September 16, 2017, 09:22:28 PM
(http://i1322.photobucket.com/albums/u576/teamcatlab/ertz_zpsuw9xklpr.gif)
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: HELLHAMMER on September 16, 2017, 09:50:47 PM
He can go back to Iowa any day now.
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: stunted on September 16, 2017, 09:53:26 PM
hairy iowa qb > nonhairy iowa qb
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: fun muffin on September 16, 2017, 09:54:06 PM
He was bad today.   :frown:
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: libliblibliblibliblib on September 16, 2017, 09:54:31 PM
Occasionally he can't carry the whole team
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Pete on September 16, 2017, 09:54:44 PM
He was what he is.  Average. 
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: EMAWzifried on September 16, 2017, 09:58:30 PM
Missed field goal put the game on the Iowian shoulders. He Iowa-ed it.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: catastrophe on September 16, 2017, 10:07:50 PM
I've been on the fence about Ertz since the beginning, but from my view the guy is just a bundle of nerves. It's pretty obvious he gets rattled on the road against teams with a pulse which contributes to the overthrows and procedural penalties. Of course our coaching staff doesn't help because it seems like they call the game without any regard to what is actually happening.

:frown:
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: kso_FAN on September 16, 2017, 10:10:12 PM
I've been on the fence about Ertz since the beginning, but from my view the guy is just a bundle of nerves. It's pretty obvious he gets rattled on the road against teams with a pulse which contributes to the overthrows and procedural penalties. Of course our coaching staff doesn't help because it seems like they call the game without any regard to what is actually happening.

:frown:

 :surprised:
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: chum1 on September 16, 2017, 10:11:34 PM
Yes, let's do this!

There isn't a Snyder 2.0 quarterback that I've been less hopeful about after one game than Ertz. Not Waters, Hubener, Sams, Klein, Coffman, or Gregory. Ertz often looked completely clueless. And sometimes looked like his legs aren't fully functional.
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: catastrophe on September 16, 2017, 10:21:50 PM
Yes, this game was very reminiscent of Stanford 2016 (especially when you take into account that Stanford was overrated when we played them).
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: libliblibliblibliblib on September 16, 2017, 10:30:20 PM
West Virginia nobody could catch iirc
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: MakeItRain on September 16, 2017, 10:53:37 PM
I've been on the fence about Ertz since the beginning, but from my view the guy is just a bundle of nerves. It's pretty obvious he gets rattled on the road against teams with a pulse which contributes to the overthrows and procedural penalties. Of course our coaching staff doesn't help because it seems like they call the game without any regard to what is actually happening.

:frown:

He was on a four game winning streak away from home before tonight, dumbass :surprised:

He was poor throwing the ball tonight though, no doubt. Even with the million drops he still threw the ball like poop. It didn't have anything to do with nerves, he was uncomfortable in the pocket, he seemed to hurry himself when he didn't need to.
Title: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 16, 2017, 10:54:35 PM
The Iowan has yet to lead Kstate to a win over anyone worth a crap.
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: MakeItRain on September 16, 2017, 10:55:29 PM
He doesn't seem to get very many RPOs called for him. Throwing the ball on the run doesn't seem to be something he's comfortable with, at all.
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: wetwillie on September 16, 2017, 10:55:59 PM
i still like sisco a lot.  He plays with a tremendous amount of heart and guts.   Quite a few good balls that got dropped but he admittedly didn't have a fantastic game.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Steffy08 on September 16, 2017, 10:56:10 PM
I've been on the fence about Ertz since the beginning, but from my view the guy is just a bundle of nerves. It's pretty obvious he gets rattled on the road against teams with a pulse which contributes to the overthrows and procedural penalties. Of course our coaching staff doesn't help because it seems like they call the game without any regard to what is actually happening.

:frown:

He was on a four game winning streak away from home before tonight, dumbass :surprised:

He was poor throwing the ball tonight though, no doubt. Even with the million drops he still threw the ball like poop. It didn't have anything to do with nerves, he was uncomfortable in the pocket, he seemed to hurry himself when he didn't need to.

Im frustrated as hell, so maybe somebody can talk me down:  But has Ertz ever beaten a good team?  A&M? 
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 16, 2017, 10:58:56 PM
I've been on the fence about Ertz since the beginning, but from my view the guy is just a bundle of nerves. It's pretty obvious he gets rattled on the road against teams with a pulse which contributes to the overthrows and procedural penalties. Of course our coaching staff doesn't help because it seems like they call the game without any regard to what is actually happening.

:frown:

He was on a four game winning streak away from home before tonight, dumbass :surprised:

He was poor throwing the ball tonight though, no doubt. Even with the million drops he still threw the ball like poop. It didn't have anything to do with nerves, he was uncomfortable in the pocket, he seemed to hurry himself when he didn't need to.

Im frustrated as hell, so maybe somebody can talk me down:  But has Ertz ever beaten a good team?  A&M?

A&M is the pinnacle as of now.

Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: stunted on September 16, 2017, 11:00:15 PM
i still like sisco a lot.  He plays with a tremendous amount of heart and guts.   Quite a few good balls that got dropped but he admittedly didn't have a fantastic game.

sisco is a warrior
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: mocat on September 16, 2017, 11:00:20 PM
i still like sisco a lot.  He plays with a tremendous amount of heart and guts.   Quite a few good balls that got dropped but he admittedly didn't have a fantastic game.

Reasonable cat fan wet willie
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Steffy08 on September 16, 2017, 11:01:12 PM
I've been on the fence about Ertz since the beginning, but from my view the guy is just a bundle of nerves. It's pretty obvious he gets rattled on the road against teams with a pulse which contributes to the overthrows and procedural penalties. Of course our coaching staff doesn't help because it seems like they call the game without any regard to what is actually happening.

:frown:

He was on a four game winning streak away from home before tonight, dumbass :surprised:

He was poor throwing the ball tonight though, no doubt. Even with the million drops he still threw the ball like poop. It didn't have anything to do with nerves, he was uncomfortable in the pocket, he seemed to hurry himself when he didn't need to.

Im frustrated as hell, so maybe somebody can talk me down:  But has Ertz ever beaten a good team?  A&M?

A&M is the pinnacle as of now.

This isn't helpful (regardless of truthfullness)
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Poster formerly known as jthutch on September 16, 2017, 11:08:59 PM
He was not seeing down the field at all, could have been great coverage hard to tell on tv but on the last play there was a receiver wide open at the 1st down marker and Ertz just did not see him.  I was so excited when I saw him pop open in the middle of the field and then about lost it when Ertz didn't throw it.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: MakeItRain on September 16, 2017, 11:20:16 PM
I've been on the fence about Ertz since the beginning, but from my view the guy is just a bundle of nerves. It's pretty obvious he gets rattled on the road against teams with a pulse which contributes to the overthrows and procedural penalties. Of course our coaching staff doesn't help because it seems like they call the game without any regard to what is actually happening.

:frown:

He was on a four game winning streak away from home before tonight, dumbass :surprised:

He was poor throwing the ball tonight though, no doubt. Even with the million drops he still threw the ball like poop. It didn't have anything to do with nerves, he was uncomfortable in the pocket, he seemed to hurry himself when he didn't need to.

Im frustrated as hell, so maybe somebody can talk me down:  But has Ertz ever beaten a good team?  A&M?

But if we would have won tonight this wouldn't have counted as a good team, so who gives a crap.
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 16, 2017, 11:20:51 PM
Bullshit. 
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Steffy08 on September 16, 2017, 11:21:59 PM
I've been on the fence about Ertz since the beginning, but from my view the guy is just a bundle of nerves. It's pretty obvious he gets rattled on the road against teams with a pulse which contributes to the overthrows and procedural penalties. Of course our coaching staff doesn't help because it seems like they call the game without any regard to what is actually happening.

:frown:

He was on a four game winning streak away from home before tonight, dumbass :surprised:

He was poor throwing the ball tonight though, no doubt. Even with the million drops he still threw the ball like poop. It didn't have anything to do with nerves, he was uncomfortable in the pocket, he seemed to hurry himself when he didn't need to.

Im frustrated as hell, so maybe somebody can talk me down:  But has Ertz ever beaten a good team?  A&M?

But if we would have won tonight this wouldn't have counted as a good team, so who gives a crap.

So this is a bad loss?

Not helping
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: MakeItRain on September 16, 2017, 11:24:50 PM
Bullshit. 

My bad, I must have missed all of the posts giving Vandy's defense props.
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 16, 2017, 11:27:07 PM
Bullshit. 

My bad, I must have missed all of the posts giving Vandy's defense props.

Lol, hilarious. 

Kstate hasn't won a true road game in an SEC venue in forever.

Posts about how good Vandy's defense don't mean a rough ridin' thing.  If Kstate wins this game it's a good win.

Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: MakeItRain on September 16, 2017, 11:30:50 PM
I've been on the fence about Ertz since the beginning, but from my view the guy is just a bundle of nerves. It's pretty obvious he gets rattled on the road against teams with a pulse which contributes to the overthrows and procedural penalties. Of course our coaching staff doesn't help because it seems like they call the game without any regard to what is actually happening.

:frown:

He was on a four game winning streak away from home before tonight, dumbass :surprised:

He was poor throwing the ball tonight though, no doubt. Even with the million drops he still threw the ball like poop. It didn't have anything to do with nerves, he was uncomfortable in the pocket, he seemed to hurry himself when he didn't need to.

Im frustrated as hell, so maybe somebody can talk me down:  But has Ertz ever beaten a good team?  A&M?

But if we would have won tonight this wouldn't have counted as a good team, so who gives a crap.

So this is a bad loss?

Not helping

Your point is stupid and contrived, really who gives a crap. Mason Rudolph has never beaten a good team, neither did Pat Mahomes, who gives a crap. He did enough to beat OSU but he doesn't play defense so we didn't win. JT Barrett has beat a lot of good teams but he sucks. This QB from UT has the #4 team in OT and they scored one damn offensive touchdown in regulation. Your point is dumb, I'm sure you'll make 8 more posts about it though.
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: catastrophe on September 16, 2017, 11:33:28 PM
The broader concern is that it feels like any progress made last year just got erased. The KSU team we saw today looked almost just like the one that was playing around this time last year.

That is a very bad sign for a Snyder team with a returning senior QB.
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: MakeItRain on September 16, 2017, 11:35:33 PM
The broader concern is that it feels like any progress made last year just got erased. The KSU team we saw today looked almost just like the one that was playing around this time last year.

That is a very bad sign for a Snyder team with a returning senior QB.

meh
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: SkinnyBenny on September 16, 2017, 11:37:58 PM
Ertz was very bad tonight. Playcalling was very bad, receivers were awful, penalties were dumb, but Ertz was really really bad tonight. I completely lost my crap in the stadium tonight when he missed a WIDE OPEN receiver on 4th and 7 at the end of the game. Then on the ride back to the hotel I was thinking, "welp, time to log onto gE and see MIR get all blowhardy and blame everyone but #HisGuy."

Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: MakeItRain on September 16, 2017, 11:41:23 PM
Ertz was very bad tonight. Playcalling was very bad, receivers were awful, penalties were dumb, but Ertz was really really bad tonight. I completely lost my crap in the stadium tonight when he missed a WIDE OPEN receiver on 4th and 7 at the end of the game. Then on the ride back to the hotel I was thinking, "welp, time to log onto gE and see MIR get all blowhardy and blame everyone but #HisGuy."

You need to read better pal, I had a post saying the same crap you did.
Title: Re: what if jimmy ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Steffy08 on September 16, 2017, 11:45:19 PM
I've been on the fence about Ertz since the beginning, but from my view the guy is just a bundle of nerves. It's pretty obvious he gets rattled on the road against teams with a pulse which contributes to the overthrows and procedural penalties. Of course our coaching staff doesn't help because it seems like they call the game without any regard to what is actually happening.

:frown:

He was on a four game winning streak away from home before tonight, dumbass :surprised:

He was poor throwing the ball tonight though, no doubt. Even with the million drops he still threw the ball like poop. It didn't have anything to do with nerves, he was uncomfortable in the pocket, he seemed to hurry himself when he didn't need to.

Im frustrated as hell, so maybe somebody can talk me down:  But has Ertz ever beaten a good team?  A&M?

But if we would have won tonight this wouldn't have counted as a good team, so who gives a crap.

So this is a bad loss?

Not helping

Your point is stupid and contrived, really who gives a crap. Mason Rudolph has never beaten a good team, neither did Pat Mahomes, who gives a crap. He did enough to beat OSU but he doesn't play defense so we didn't win. JT Barrett has beat a lot of good teams but he sucks. This QB from UT has the #4 team in OT and they scored one damn offensive touchdown in regulation. Your point is dumb, I'm sure you'll make 8 more posts about it though.

Ertz = Mahomes

That makes me feel better.
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 16, 2017, 11:47:00 PM
Sadly The Iowan has Dana Dimel as his OC. 

So another early season offensive crap show against a decent team on the road. 

Nothing new. 
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Pett on September 17, 2017, 11:53:10 AM
Ertz is what he looks like, a hit away from being taken out of the game
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: MakeItRain on September 17, 2017, 01:59:50 PM
Ertz is what he looks like, a hit away from being taken out of the game

Interesting take given how many carries he was forced into.
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: wetwillie on September 17, 2017, 03:26:26 PM
That ball to Harris on the first drive was pure sex.  If we could have just completed a few deep balls successfully early in the game we would have gashed them on the ground.
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on September 17, 2017, 03:31:49 PM
We need to run the ball more with our running backs. We shouldn't be trying to pass so much.
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: BackPayne on September 17, 2017, 03:38:38 PM
I would bet money that Ertz's shoulder is reinjured or something else is injured. After a few runs his throw lost its zip and he appeared to be very cautious on his runs. There was one run where he mimicked a fainting goat. No way he makes it through the year.
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: SdK on September 17, 2017, 03:53:06 PM
He is the only sr on the 2 deep right? Let's start working on next year.
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: WackyCat08 on September 17, 2017, 04:26:16 PM
This isn't the NFL. We're not looking for draft order here.
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: stunted on September 17, 2017, 05:08:23 PM
if the receivers caught 5/7 of the drops, ertz would have been 15/28 which isn't good, but a standard meh game.

also his confidence would be higher and the defense would open up a lot. i thought it was a 2-1 blame receivers to ertz, but now i'm gonna go with a solid 90% blame on receivers. there's not a single excuse for them.

i stand with mir.
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: MakeItRain on September 17, 2017, 06:53:43 PM
That's not my stance at all, I lay equal blame on him, the WRs, and the coaching staff.
Title: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: scottwildcat on September 17, 2017, 09:20:59 PM
The broader concern is that it feels like any progress made last year just got erased. The KSU team we saw today looked almost just like the one that was playing around this time last year.

That is a very bad sign for a Snyder team with a returning senior QB.

meh
catastrophe is 100% correct. And that's fine. After I got done with my usual over the top and over-exaggerated twitter meltdown I woke up this morning and realized that despite everything that happened last night and even how poor he preformed Jesse is a gamer. Last season was a lot of fun, and this season can still be fun. Jesse will not be remembered 10 years from now as one of the great K-State QBs and this season (probably)won't be a double digit win season, but Jesse has guts and there will be fun moments this season.
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: stunted on September 17, 2017, 10:39:32 PM
That's not my stance at all, I lay equal blame on him, the WRs, and the coaching staff.

dropping 7 passes is a lot worse than 15/28 passing + lots of rushing yards.

but fine. me and ertz will battle through adversity. i claim him as my guy.
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: WackyCat08 on September 17, 2017, 11:06:47 PM
You earned it Stunted
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: wetwillie on September 17, 2017, 11:10:48 PM
Stunted hoop snaking Ertz is maybe the most shocking thing I have experienced on this board.
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: bones129 on September 18, 2017, 01:09:24 AM
How did that happen?
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Pett on September 18, 2017, 07:29:25 AM
Ertz is what he looks like, a hit away from being taken out of the game

Interesting take given how many carries he was forced into.

*See multiple ACL tears and OU game last year
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: pissclams on September 18, 2017, 08:00:25 AM
at this point i'm not sure i'm ready to cede to him the "complete" badass title.  i think he's earned partial badass status until he gives reason to otherwise promote him to complete badass.  so no, not complete badass.
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: ksuchris2000 on September 18, 2017, 03:09:03 PM
I dont know what game you guys watched but Ertz looked to me like he was afraid to hit someone or make a play all night long. He throws the ball poorly (half the time they are wounded ducks) and is in general just a big pu$$y.

Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: stunted on September 18, 2017, 03:26:07 PM
chris, you try throwing with confidence to guys with elbows as hands
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: MakeItRain on September 18, 2017, 03:55:40 PM
I dont know what game you guys watched but Ertz looked to me like he was afraid to hit someone or make a play all night long. He throws the ball poorly (half the time they are wounded ducks) and is in general just a big pu$$y.

Of course he didn't want to hit somebody, he's a quarterback you dumb [redacted].
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: kso_FAN on September 18, 2017, 04:27:08 PM
The people that come out of the woodwork and some of the comments after a loss are pretty amazing.
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: wetwillie on September 18, 2017, 04:30:50 PM
I will fight the next person to call Ertz a pussy. 
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: meow meow on September 18, 2017, 04:53:38 PM
yeah of all things to criticize Sisco for, his toughness seems like the last one to me
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: stunted on September 18, 2017, 04:56:06 PM
2 acl injuries, still runs the ball 20 times a game. it's good that this is his last year for his health's sake.
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: ksuchris2000 on September 18, 2017, 05:04:01 PM
The people that come out of the woodwork and some of the comments after a loss are pretty amazing.

Your mom is pretty amazing.

Fact is we saw a guy that cant RUN, wont hit to make the first down (plenty of Kstate running QBs have done this in the past) and cant throw -- and he's all we got.
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: troubledscribe on September 18, 2017, 05:05:09 PM
I think someone else mentioned it but I'm on team Ertz doesn't throw a very catchable ball.
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: wetwillie on September 18, 2017, 05:37:43 PM
eff me this guy trolled us all
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: The Big Train on September 18, 2017, 05:52:05 PM
ksuchris2000 seems like a pretty big jerk
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: IPA4Me on September 18, 2017, 05:58:36 PM
It's Riley Gates. He's trying to get revenge for Ertz busting his balls on Twitter.
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Trim on September 18, 2017, 06:14:05 PM
Chris for the 99 and 2000.
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: kso_FAN on September 18, 2017, 07:11:17 PM
Dang, I got "your mommed". Ouch.
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: wetwillie on September 18, 2017, 07:12:11 PM
I have to admit I got alittle keyed up when he called Ertz a pu$$y.  He got me pretty good.
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: libliblibliblibliblib on September 18, 2017, 07:19:10 PM
how does a pu$$y and a p*ssy differ?
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Chingon on September 18, 2017, 07:22:44 PM
how does a pu$$y and a p*ssy differ?
One costs more.
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: ksuchris2000 on September 18, 2017, 07:53:00 PM
Dang, I got "your mommed". Ouch.

No I got your mom. She's the itch that keeps on itching. DB.
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: The Big Train on September 18, 2017, 08:05:42 PM
Sounds more like you got herpes from your sister
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: ksuchris2000 on September 18, 2017, 08:08:02 PM
Sounds more like you got herpes from your sister

From your sister.  After she got 'big train'ed.
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: SdK on September 18, 2017, 08:15:11 PM
Oh great. Another Republicrat.
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: wetwillie on September 18, 2017, 08:18:46 PM
Look at his post count tho
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: ksuchris2000 on September 18, 2017, 08:20:32 PM
Look at his post count tho

10% of my posts happened today and 98% of yours are pure crap. What's your point?
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: libliblibliblibliblib on September 18, 2017, 08:21:26 PM
honestly, this board could use the zeal.  post more ksuchris2000
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: SdK on September 18, 2017, 08:22:47 PM
Look at his post count tho
Matters not. One became known before the other.
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: OK_Cat on September 18, 2017, 08:23:21 PM
I wouldn't call Ertz a pussy, but I will say confidently that he has peaked and isn't a guy who can take over games like elite quarterbacks.


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Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Tobias on September 18, 2017, 08:44:02 PM
honestly, this board could use the zeal.  post more ksuchris2000

yup, enjoying the insta-bodybags
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Tobias on September 18, 2017, 08:44:16 PM
unzip and they fall right in
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: MakeItRain on September 19, 2017, 05:23:40 AM
how does a pu$$y and a p*ssy differ?
One costs more.

 :lol:
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: MakeItRain on September 19, 2017, 05:55:52 AM
I wouldn't call Ertz a pussy, but I will say confidently that he has peaked and isn't a guy who can take over games like elite quarterbacks.


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You might be right but, he absolutely took over the Texas Bowl. He was awesome against OSU then Dana Dana'd up that fourth quarter. I do think he and the entire offense, get handcuffed when Dana gets tight and risk averse. When Mike and Ell were QBs the offense took many more chances and never tightened up. Ell was allowed to make mistakes and he made plenty of them. We all love Ell but his dog poo games gets completely glossed over, people treat him like Mike and he wasn't that.

The game against UT will be remembered as the game that Vince Young took over but Ell had an absolutely horror of a game that should look real familiar. 5-18, 89 yards, 2 INTs, 0 TDs, 17 rushes, 87 yards, 2 TDs; third game, senior year. That was his 32nd game as a QB, the Vandy game was Sisco's 16th where he had any significant playing time. Ell's 16th start with significant playing time was a home loss to UT, 17-14. 7-18, 102 yards, 1 TD, 26 rushes for 23 yes 23 yards; that's a horrific stat line.
Sidenote, since play calling is a significant topic right now; I have no idea who the OC was in 2002 but this game where Ell had 26 rushes for 23 yards, Darren only had 20 rushes for a mere 136 yards. What the hell were the coaches doing that game? :sdeek:
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: sonofdaxjones on September 19, 2017, 10:50:03 AM
Maybe Ell was making the wrong reads?

Little embarrassed for The Iowan for missing that crossing route late in the game, but it probably would have been dropped. 
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Dugout DickStone on September 19, 2017, 11:18:28 AM
I need the zeal so just keep it coming
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Katdaddy on September 19, 2017, 01:34:10 PM
I need the zeal so just keep it coming
DD, you hit it on the nail head!!!  IT'S THE ZEAL, YES IT'S THE ZEAL WE WERE LACKING IN THE VANDY GAME!  :driving:

P.S. Zealess games suck.
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on September 30, 2017, 05:25:44 PM
Ertz taking dives like a French soccer player has him firmly in bitch status, imho
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: catastrophe on September 30, 2017, 05:33:15 PM
He's either hurt or taking coaches' advice. Either way, nothing to complain about. He's carrying this game.
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on September 30, 2017, 05:43:18 PM
Baylor's snapper is carrying the game.
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: catastrophe on September 30, 2017, 05:54:40 PM
Having Delton close out the game really makes me think Ertz is nursing something.
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on September 30, 2017, 06:10:37 PM
Probs just Delton's ability to hit the LOS in under 5 seconds...and not cower to the turf a yard short of the first down.
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on September 30, 2017, 06:15:12 PM
I don't know if you guys have checked the stats or not, but Ertz isn't exactly a prolific passer. If he's not going to grind for yards, what exactly is he? A pussy Y back?
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: The Big Train on September 30, 2017, 06:16:49 PM
I think he’s a QB, just not a very good one.
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: ksuchris2000 on September 30, 2017, 06:24:41 PM
I thought the drops today... how many were there??... Were largely receiver errors as most were quite catchable... having said that, Ertz is still a pussy and a tentative runner, at best.
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Chingon on September 30, 2017, 06:33:54 PM
Ertz is 100% not a pussy. 
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: SdK on September 30, 2017, 06:36:00 PM
I'm team Ertz is a wuss ass that doesn't throw a very catchable ball.
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: libliblibliblibliblib on September 30, 2017, 06:38:41 PM
Mods, please move today's posts to the "browns give their brown opinions on a huge stud" thread
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: mocat on September 30, 2017, 06:44:32 PM
Mods, please move today's posts to the "browns give their brown opinions on a huge stud" thread
Would read for the lols
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: The Big Train on September 30, 2017, 06:45:59 PM
Mods, please move today's posts to the "browns give their brown opinions on a huge stud" thread
Would read for the lols

You guys would be reading a lot of self generated content. 
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: DOD Take 2 on September 30, 2017, 06:48:50 PM
You can say Ertz isn’t good but he’s definitely not a pussy. No question he has something injured. Avoided hits on multiple occasions that he didn’t avoid in the past. Coaches undoubtedly have told him to avoid it.
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: catastrophe on September 30, 2017, 07:08:11 PM
Ertz played well today.  Receivers didn't skip a beat from last week's level of suck.
Title: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: catastrophe on September 30, 2017, 07:09:49 PM
And no matter the reason for Ertz not driving for the extra yards today, I guarantee you he wants to barrel through. There is absolutely no reason to think he's a pussy. Don't get spoiled by the fact Klein could take an inhuman level of punishment.
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: ednksu on September 30, 2017, 07:13:18 PM
Jesus Christ Ertz is far from anything that could be considered a pussy.  Dude has gone through a lot and is still playing at a good level.  LOL at blaming him because our WR corps can't catch a ball that hits them in the hands and then the face.
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Muldoon on September 30, 2017, 07:42:54 PM
And no matter the reason for Ertz not driving for the extra yards today, I guarantee you he wants to barrel through. There is absolutely no reason to think he's a pussy. Don't get spoiled by the fact Klein could take an inhuman level of punishment.

I agree. Unfortunately, I don't think our offensive play caller has adjusted the offense to a QB that isn't capable of being a freak battering ram and opposing defenses seem to know this. Waters was a good passer who had a great receiver to keep defenses honest. Ertz is a good passer with crap receivers and some call him a pussy when he scrambles and slides. Being a battering ram is clearly not his strength.
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on September 30, 2017, 07:48:12 PM
Knuckle balls and end over end passes are obv harder to catch that Jake Waters spiral delivery system
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on September 30, 2017, 07:49:01 PM
Taking dives a yard short of the line to gain, however, is pussy 101.
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: kitten_mittons on September 30, 2017, 07:51:57 PM
Knuckle balls and end over end passes are obv harder to catch that Jake Waters spiral delivery system
That's true, but it doesn't apply here.

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Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on September 30, 2017, 07:57:16 PM
7-17 117 against Baylor is a problem, IDGAF how many "drops" there were.
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Muldoon on September 30, 2017, 07:57:49 PM
Pretty sure TLBL would have caught every pass that Burton Jr, aka Pringle, dropped today thus eliminating the need for Ertz to run. Nonetheless, Ertz did run but was smart enough to know that he is not a battering ram. He's smart enough to know that he needs to survive to fight the next battle. Being vulnerable and smart enough to mitigate risks it is not the same as being a pussy.
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on September 30, 2017, 08:00:30 PM
Yes it is.
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: wetwillie on September 30, 2017, 08:02:16 PM
The Ertz is a pussy talking point is like catnip for browns my god.
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on September 30, 2017, 08:03:54 PM
WTF is this "browns" thing?
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: ksuchris2000 on September 30, 2017, 08:06:53 PM
And no matter the reason for Ertz not driving for the extra yards today, I guarantee you he wants to barrel through. There is absolutely no reason to think he's a pussy. Don't get spoiled by the fact Klein could take an inhuman level of punishment.

I agree. Unfortunately, I don't think our offensive play caller has adjusted the offense to a QB that isn't capable of being a freak battering ram and opposing defenses seem to know this. Waters was a good passer who had a great receiver to keep defenses honest. Ertz is a good passer with crap receivers and some call him a pussy when he scrambles and slides. Being a battering ram is clearly not his strength.

I guess I probably fall into this camp. Overall he has done well okay, all things considered. There, I said it. Now... What's a brown? And are browns related to tucks?
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: OK_Cat on September 30, 2017, 08:08:26 PM
If you have to ask what a brown is then you are one


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Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: SdK on September 30, 2017, 08:11:40 PM
Some people have a hard time coming to grips with seeing their (fainting) goat being called for what he is.

Lotta betas itt dying to toss some Ertz salad.
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: kslim on September 30, 2017, 08:16:43 PM
I thought the drops today... how many were there??... Were largely receiver errors as most were quite catchable... having said that, Ertz is still a pussy and a tentative runner, at best.
id have to imagine you had a belly fully of pennies when you typed this
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on September 30, 2017, 08:17:05 PM
Some people have a hard time coming to grips with seeing their (fainting) goat being called for what he is.

Lotta betas itt dying to toss some Ertz salad.

Bingo
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: pvegs on September 30, 2017, 08:18:16 PM
i'm not an ertz fanboy. he's fine. but all you fuckwits calling him a "pussy" bc he doesn't wanna get destroyed on the field, can absolutely choke on a dick and die and just have zero idea about anything.
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on September 30, 2017, 08:18:46 PM
Also, when did it become goEtard to like Ertz?
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on September 30, 2017, 08:19:26 PM
i'm not an ertz fanboy. he's fine. but all you fuckwits calling him a "pussy" bc he doesn't wanna get destroyed on the field, can absolutely choke on a dick and die and just have zero idea about anything.

You get tackled in football, fucktard
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on September 30, 2017, 08:21:21 PM
Nobody is asking him to go over the middle to catch one of his own errant passes. We're just asking him to not take go down a yard short of a first down so the CB can't tackle him.
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: pvegs on September 30, 2017, 08:22:40 PM
i'm not an ertz fanboy. he's fine. but all you fuckwits calling him a "pussy" bc he doesn't wanna get destroyed on the field, can absolutely choke on a dick and die and just have zero idea about anything.

You get tackled in football, fucktard

you are the scum of the earth and all that is wrong with this country and the planet. if i met you in real life, i don't even rough ridin' know man. anyway, you are wrong. here's why. ertz has blown his knee twice. he may well be dealing with a serious injury that none of us know anything about. he's given so much to kstate in such a profound way (way more than any of us and all the guys on the team do). and his parents or sister or teammates, or whom the eff ever may well read this thread and see ppl are calling him a "pussy" bc he doesn't wanna get blasted on the field. so that's what's up. eff off. i will never engage with you on this site again. BYE
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: kslim on September 30, 2017, 08:31:14 PM
I got one like it when our qb avoids contact, I’m a traditionalist
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: PIPE on September 30, 2017, 08:37:15 PM
The ones complaining about ertz not taking on the hits will be the first to bitch when our QB's always have blown shoulders.
Title: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: kso_FAN on September 30, 2017, 08:40:36 PM
I have no problem with him avoiding hits. His throws aren't always great, but man the receivers have to help him out. He could've easily been 12-17 for 190 and at least 2 TDs today if those guys catch. With 95 yards rushing and another TD, that's a good day.
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: SdK on September 30, 2017, 08:42:11 PM
I got one like it when our qb avoids contact, I’m a traditionalist
I'm trying hard to understand this post. I just can't make heads or tails of it.
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: kso_FAN on September 30, 2017, 08:44:55 PM
got = for.

Autocorrect I assume.
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: SdK on September 30, 2017, 08:49:25 PM
got = for.

Autocorrect I assume.
Ahhh yes, thank you.
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: muqluk on September 30, 2017, 08:49:52 PM
I got one like it when our qb avoids contact, I’m a traditionalist

same.

As for Ertz - I'll say I do think Skylar is the better between the two of them but you really can't be too critical of Ertz right now.  I'm not sure an NFL hall of fame QB in their prime could make our receivers job any easier than he's done (for the most part anyway).

Gotta catch the effing ball when it's delivered with a bow on it - and right now this receiving corp can't even do that.  In fact, I'm pretty sure if we put in an amazon order for 5 footballs for each of our WR corp, to be individually gift wrapped and hand-delivered, then put body cams on the delivery drivers, there'd still only be 1 or 2 that don't end up on the ground.
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: catastrophe on September 30, 2017, 08:54:16 PM
Man I would like to send a gift wrapped football to each of our receivers to drive this message home...
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Brock Landers on September 30, 2017, 08:56:47 PM
The "catchable ball" talking point and anyone who buys into it can kindly go DIAF.
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: kslim on September 30, 2017, 09:20:50 PM
I for one like it when our qb avoids contact, I’m a traditionalist
I'm trying hard to understand this post. I just can't make heads or tails of it.
better?
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: SdK on September 30, 2017, 09:36:58 PM
I for one like it when our qb avoids contact, I’m a traditionalist
I'm trying hard to understand this post. I just can't make heads or tails of it.
better?
Yeah. I get it now. I wasted for time than I'd like to admit trying to figure it out. Haha
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Katdaddy on September 30, 2017, 10:46:46 PM
Ertz taking dives like a French soccer player has him firmly in bitch status, imho
You dumb fucks think our QB should be a ramming jamming rough ridin' FB/RB and throw a ball true as an arrow after the rough ridin' beating he takes.  I know our coaches DGAF about our QB's health and pack them full of Novocain so they can take a rough ridin' beating that no decent FBS coach would do to their team QB. 
JFC, if you're going to complain, do it to the crap heads who eff up our QB's in the name of a win.  This is tiring and just stupid to blame a lame QB for the team's problems.
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: mocat on October 01, 2017, 12:19:48 AM
I have no problem with him avoiding hits. His throws aren't always great, but man the receivers have to help him out. He could've easily been 12-17 for 190 and at least 2 TDs today if those guys catch. With 95 yards rushing and another TD, that's a good day.

100% agree with _FAN
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on October 01, 2017, 07:39:26 AM
The talking point that "he might be hurt or could get hurt or previously got hurt, so its okay to go down short of the line to gain" is absurd. Every skill position player can say that, and you'd be irate if isiah harris, who is about 40 lbs lighter than Jerry, took a dive to avoid contact short of the first down. If he's going to carry the ball 20 times a game he needs to finish his runs. If he's that fragile he shouldn't be playing football.

I'm fine with him going oob AFTER the first down marker. But taking a dive to avoid contact short of the line to gain is pussy bullshit.
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: michigancat on October 01, 2017, 08:10:16 AM
Yeesh
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Cire on October 01, 2017, 08:13:39 AM
Did not expect to wake up to this dumbass argument


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Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: steve dave on October 01, 2017, 08:20:45 AM
I've learned to expect this
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: The Big Train on October 01, 2017, 08:41:25 AM
I don’t want to go find the post but we all knew FSD was a dumbass
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: That_Guy on October 01, 2017, 08:54:00 AM
I've learned to expect this

Lol


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Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on October 01, 2017, 09:00:16 AM
Also, when did it become goEtard to like Ertz?
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: kslim on October 01, 2017, 09:10:33 AM
I don’t want to go find the post but we all knew FSD was a dumbass
try post number 1
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: tdaver on October 01, 2017, 09:16:31 AM
Avoiding contact is fine, but I thought there were a few times he got to the second level and was too hesitant/patient instead of using his speed like he has done in the past.
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: pvegs on October 01, 2017, 09:17:53 AM
I have no problem with him avoiding hits. His throws aren't always great, but man the receivers have to help him out. He could've easily been 12-17 for 190 and at least 2 TDs today if those guys catch. With 95 yards rushing and another TD, that's a good day.

YES EXACTLY. So maybe bc _Fan said this you guys will believe in it bc he lives in KS and is knowledgeable and less insane than myself. maybe ppl on here think i know trim or live in seattle or am a commercial fisherman or am a totall eff up. none of which is untrue. somewhat. but i know what's up. educationally, lifewise, and otherwise. please stop being total just rando fuckfaces to me and i will stop doing that to you guys. 
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on October 01, 2017, 09:19:54 AM
Liberty(fcs) QB's line against Baylor

44/60 447 yard 3 TD
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: kitten_mittons on October 01, 2017, 09:29:00 AM
That's a lot of throws. Maybe we can offer their receivers some scholarships.

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Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: MakeItRain on October 01, 2017, 09:42:42 AM
Avoiding contact is fine, but I thought there were a few times he got to the second level and was too hesitant/patient instead of using his speed like he has done in the past.

I only recall one play where he got to the second level and he barrel rolled, it was in the fourth quarter. It might not have been apparent on TV but he had two defenders that had him pinned in and he was getting one more yard at best and he was going to pay for that yard.

Also for those of you complaining about him barrel rolling, in the postgame press conference LHC Bill Snyder said they do not work on quarterbacks sliding, which seems insane to me.
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: mocat on October 01, 2017, 10:10:24 AM
Avoiding contact is fine, but I thought there were a few times he got to the second level and was too hesitant/patient instead of using his speed like he has done in the past.

I only recall one play where he got to the second level and he barrel rolled, it was in the fourth quarter. It might not have been apparent on TV but he had two defenders that had him pinned in and he was getting one more yard at best and he was going to pay for that yard.

Also for those of you complaining about him barrel rolling, in the postgame press conference LHC Bill Snyder said they do not work on quarterbacks sliding, which seems insane to me.
I remember one lol roll in the 2nd quarter. I mean he got a first down though
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: MadCat on October 01, 2017, 11:55:46 AM
Delton is the better slider.  :th_twocents:
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: cfbandyman on October 01, 2017, 12:38:47 PM
Delton is the better slider.  :th_twocents:

He looked like a fainting goat on the last play but ok
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 01, 2017, 02:17:26 PM
Avoiding contact is fine, but I thought there were a few times he got to the second level and was too hesitant/patient instead of using his speed like he has done in the past.

I only recall one play where he got to the second level and he barrel rolled, it was in the fourth quarter. It might not have been apparent on TV but he had two defenders that had him pinned in and he was getting one more yard at best and he was going to pay for that yard.

Also for those of you complaining about him barrel rolling, in the postgame press conference LHC Bill Snyder said they do not work on quarterbacks sliding, which seems insane to me.

I prefer barrel rolling to sliding, personally. Sliding is pretty dangerous.
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on October 01, 2017, 02:18:56 PM
He's going to get warren moon'd on one of those stumbling dives. OSU and TCU have no conscious on plays like that.
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: kslim on October 01, 2017, 02:57:58 PM
with our turf and how big his braces are I'm solid team goat faint/barrel roll
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: mocat on October 01, 2017, 03:28:28 PM
conscious/conscience can be tricky for some
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: The Big Train on October 01, 2017, 03:29:47 PM
Dumbass/idiots mostly
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: MadCat on October 02, 2017, 01:28:14 AM
Delton is the better slider.  :th_twocents:

He looked like a fainting goat on the last play but ok

The bar was set pretty low.
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on October 02, 2017, 06:54:40 PM
Quote
In [Ertz's] last two, those passing numbers dipped to 17 of 45 for 195 yards a touchdown and two interceptions.

 :sdeek:
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: cfbandyman on October 02, 2017, 08:14:19 PM
Delton is the better slider.  :th_twocents:

He looked like a fainting goat on the last play but ok

The bar was set pretty low.

Ha, fair enough
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: MakeItRain on October 02, 2017, 09:27:39 PM
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In [Ertz's] last two, those passing numbers dipped to 17 of 45 for 195 yards a touchdown and two interceptions.

 :sdeek:




Thanks J-Mart
Title: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: catastrophe on October 02, 2017, 09:48:55 PM
Ertz looked bad @Vandy. Baylor was clearly all our receivers' fault. They're going to have even tighter windows @UT.
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Katdaddy on October 07, 2017, 05:17:26 PM
Anyone know what Jesse's injury involves?
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: troubledscribe on October 07, 2017, 05:20:32 PM
Anyone know what Jesse's injury involves?

Something to do with protesting Trump.
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: HELLHAMMER on October 07, 2017, 05:36:23 PM
Anyone know what Jesse's injury involves?
Definitely not a yeast infection.
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: delerioustyme on October 07, 2017, 05:55:13 PM
His knee. 


He trippin' so much, fans gonna begin to think he done fell off!
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: SkinnyBenny on October 07, 2017, 10:43:01 PM
Wondering if MIR will have the stones to admit that #HisGuy kinda stinx
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on October 07, 2017, 10:47:17 PM
Wondering if MIR will have the stones to admit that #HisGuy kinda stinx

HE THREW A GREAT INT!!!!!
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: OK_Cat on October 07, 2017, 10:48:03 PM
Ertz is about on par with carson coffman


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Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: kitten_mittons on October 07, 2017, 10:49:26 PM
Ertz is about on par with carson coffman


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I could agree with this. 




If I were an idiot.

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Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: MakeItRain on October 07, 2017, 10:52:45 PM
Wondering if MIR will have the stones to admit that #HisGuy kinda stinx

I'll have a conversation about this if you're actually interested.
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Pett on October 07, 2017, 10:54:53 PM
Wondering if MIR will have the stones to admit that #HisGuy kinda stinx

I'll have a conversation about this if you're actually interested.
:drool:
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Pett on October 10, 2017, 01:18:54 PM
Ertz is what he looks like, a hit away from being taken out of the game

Interesting take given how many carries he was forced into.

*See multiple ACL tears and OU game last year

*see Baylor/Texas game of this season
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: MakeItRain on October 10, 2017, 02:05:40 PM
Wondering if MIR will have the stones to admit that #HisGuy kinda stinx

I'll have a conversation about this if you're actually interested.
:drool:

I guess he didn't :dunno: It's fine though, it just would have just finished with him having a temper tantrum because I won't agree with him.
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: pvegs on October 10, 2017, 04:11:44 PM
jesus, his knee? had no idea. didn't watch any but one quarter saturday. it really is time to thank mr ertz for his time and let sky have a crack.
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: muqluk on October 10, 2017, 11:20:46 PM
Anyone know what Jesse's injury involves?

idk how reliable this is, considering how 'open' our coaching staff is regarding injuries, but apparently a knee sprain...
http://www.covers.com/pageloader/pageloader.aspx?page=/data/ncf/injury/injuries.html
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: delerioustyme on October 10, 2017, 11:31:13 PM
Anyone know what Jesse's injury involves?

idk how reliable this is, considering how 'open' our coaching staff is regarding injuries, but apparently a knee sprain...
http://www.covers.com/pageloader/pageloader.aspx?page=/data/ncf/injury/injuries.html

Torn meniscus, out 4-6 weeks, surgery this week.  Delton will start. 


He trippin' so much, fans gonna begin to think he done fell off!
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: IPA4Me on October 11, 2017, 06:17:15 AM
Welp. Glad I'll be driving for the day and unable to watch the crap show.
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: muqluk on October 11, 2017, 07:10:40 AM
Anyone know what Jesse's injury involves?

idk how reliable this is, considering how 'open' our coaching staff is regarding injuries, but apparently a knee sprain...
http://www.covers.com/pageloader/pageloader.aspx?page=/data/ncf/injury/injuries.html

Torn meniscus, out 4-6 weeks, surgery this week.  Delton will start. 


He trippin' so much, fans gonna begin to think he done fell off!

Maybe you're right - watching him go down, it seemed considerably worse than a 'knee sprain'.
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: kso_FAN on October 11, 2017, 07:56:53 AM
What caused him to go down is common with meniscus tears, his knee locked up a little bit. That may be what was causing his weird falls last week vs Baylor too. This injury makes a lot more sense because he hasn't taken a lot of big hits this year.
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Gooch on October 11, 2017, 04:04:43 PM
If Ertz has any desire to be able to even walk after the age of 40 he should get this surgery and never set foot on FB FIELD again.
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: slackcat on October 11, 2017, 07:39:37 PM
If Ertz has any desire to be able to even walk after the age of 40 he should get this surgery and never set foot on FB FIELD again.

Not in the coaches best interest.  :dubious:
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: wetwillie on October 11, 2017, 08:30:03 PM
You guys were right he is just a big pussy.
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: yoga-like_abana on October 11, 2017, 08:56:40 PM
Wish that dude coulda stayed healthy


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Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: catastrophe on October 11, 2017, 09:30:15 PM
Wish that dude coulda stayed healthy


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This.

But also for all our other QBs too.
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: KITNfury on October 12, 2017, 11:14:52 AM
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Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: MakeItRain on October 12, 2017, 11:37:45 AM
1:50 to tri-delts?
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: BIG APPLE CAT on October 12, 2017, 11:39:52 AM
Pretty sure it's clock to tri-delts
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: libliblibliblibliblib on October 12, 2017, 11:41:46 AM
Time to change change change
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: SkinnyBenny on October 12, 2017, 11:42:36 AM
Wondering if MIR will have the stones to admit that #HisGuy kinda stinx

I'll have a conversation about this if you're actually interested.
:drool:

I guess he didn't :dunno: It's fine though, it just would have just finished with him having a temper tantrum because I won't agree with him.


more like blowhardy, neverending slow bleed-out, but yeah, I fell asleep. Ertz doesn't suck, but he kinda does when he's injured (obviously). Excited for us to 1:50 to Tri-Delt this week. Time for BushBlister to start a new thread.
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: SkinnyBenny on October 12, 2017, 11:43:36 AM
Also not sure if it's been said yet, but


knees are weird
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: kso_FAN on October 12, 2017, 11:44:24 AM
Time to get your Delt on...
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Dugout DickStone on October 12, 2017, 12:59:26 PM
TCU is going to put 12 guys in the box.
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Yard Dog on October 12, 2017, 01:07:19 PM
Will Skyler see the field on Saturday?
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Steffy08 on October 12, 2017, 01:08:32 PM
Remember when Hubener and Co. ran wild on TCU in the first half in 2015, putting up 35 points?

Remember when we tried to throw the ball all over the place in the second half?

Let's make them stop our run game.
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Gooch on October 12, 2017, 01:09:41 PM
Remember when Hubener and Co. ran wild on TCU in the first half in 2015, putting up 35 points?

Remember when we tried to throw the ball all over the place in the second half?

Let's make them stop our run game.
No. I do not remember that second half at all.
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Cire on October 12, 2017, 01:18:17 PM
will be interesting to see if patterson blitzes the bejesus out of us or sits back.


Team Skylar
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: XocolateThundarr on October 12, 2017, 01:18:40 PM
Remember when Hubener and Co. ran wild on TCU in the first half in 2015, putting up 35 points?

Remember when we tried to throw the ball all over the place in the second half?

Let's make them stop our run game.
No. I do not remember that second half at all.

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Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: cfbandyman on October 12, 2017, 01:44:27 PM
TCU is going to put 12 guys in the box.

Hopefully we can count then
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: libliblibliblibliblib on October 12, 2017, 02:02:07 PM
Remember when Hubener and Co. ran wild on TCU in the first half in 2015, putting up 35 points?

Remember when we tried to throw the ball all over the place in the second half?

Let's make them stop our run game.
No. I do not remember that second half at all.

Oh jesus, I watched the first 3 quarters at my house in Topeka then drove to mhk during the 4th to celebratepak with Winters and the resulting rest of the night was one the most wtf nights of my life
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: yoga-like_abana on October 12, 2017, 02:33:27 PM
TCU is going to put 12 guys in the box.
I hope they do! And I hope the refs are competent enough to notice! BOOM 5 FREE YARDS
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: pissclams on October 12, 2017, 02:39:17 PM
TCU is going to put 12 guys in the box.
I hope they do! And I hope the refs are competent enough to notice! BOOM 5 FREE YARDS

what if they did that the whole game?  we'd kill them
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on October 12, 2017, 02:40:20 PM
You guys were right he is just a big pussy.

I'm always right
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: yoga-like_abana on October 12, 2017, 02:56:18 PM
TCU is going to put 12 guys in the box.
I hope they do! And I hope the refs are competent enough to notice! BOOM 5 FREE YARDS

what if they did that the whole game?  we'd kill them
after the game I'd be all like "I guess they don't teach counting at TCU  :ROFL: "
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Gooch on October 12, 2017, 03:20:40 PM
TCU is going to put 12 guys in the box.
I hope they do! And I hope the refs are competent enough to notice! BOOM 5 FREE YARDS

what if they did that the whole game?  we'd kill them
I would hope after three or four penalties in a row they would call an unsportsmanlike penalty. BOOM 15 yds boys!
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Chingon on October 12, 2017, 03:21:31 PM
You can't score points on a penalty.
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: cfbandyman on October 12, 2017, 03:23:23 PM
You can't score points on a penalty.

Even better, we'll forever be on the .0000000001 yard line and can just kick a field goal when time expires at the end of regulation
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: MadCat on October 12, 2017, 03:25:54 PM
You can't score points on a penalty.

Is this a practical application for asymptotes?
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: mocat on October 12, 2017, 03:26:57 PM
You can't score points on a penalty.

Even better, we'll forever be on the .0000000001 yard line and can just kick a field goal when time expires at the end of regulation

the game can't end on a defense penalty  :cool:
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Gooch on October 12, 2017, 03:27:15 PM
You can't score points on a penalty.

Even better, we'll forever be on the .0000000001 yard line and can just kick a field goal when time expires at the end of regulation
I see no holes in this plan
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Chingon on October 12, 2017, 03:29:24 PM
It's all a lie.  Every last bit of it.
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: pissclams on October 12, 2017, 03:36:37 PM
either way, we'd have a better shot of winning the game than they would so i like love our chances
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Gooch on October 12, 2017, 03:39:00 PM
Going to have to get at least one stop. Unless they win the toss defer and then go on defense in the second half. Did Ron do that or was it Strong at UT?
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Chingon on October 12, 2017, 03:42:59 PM
We're gonna need a old fashioned Bill miracle.
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: yoga-like_abana on October 12, 2017, 03:49:18 PM
sounds like its farm betting time in my books fellas
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: XocolateThundarr on October 12, 2017, 03:53:04 PM
We're gonna need a old fashioned Bill miracle.

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Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Harry Dunne on October 12, 2017, 04:32:56 PM
Bill Miracle brought to you by Delton Dental.

Maybe. Hopefully. Go Cats.
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: SdK on October 12, 2017, 06:34:42 PM
I like it Harry
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: The Big Train on October 12, 2017, 06:44:48 PM
It's all a lie.  Every last bit of it.

:D
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: ksuchris2000 on October 12, 2017, 08:50:37 PM
Poor Jerry. His vaginitis spread to his knee.
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: MadCat on October 13, 2017, 01:14:31 AM
Be sure to square your shoulders, Jerry.
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: WackyCat08 on December 07, 2017, 03:05:06 PM
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: MadCat on December 07, 2017, 03:07:43 PM
Dr. Swag
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: kso_FAN on December 31, 2017, 02:40:01 PM
http://www.thehawkeye.com/sports/20171230/ertz-ready-to-take-next-step
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: The Big Train on December 31, 2017, 02:46:26 PM
Jesus Christ those are some brutal injuries :sdeek:
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: MakeItRain on December 31, 2017, 04:00:19 PM
That's insane. Still we'll have message board warriors, who only think of these guys as disposable entertainment pieces, that will trash him. He'll always be one of my favorites.

He was doing this with a mumped shoulder  :love:
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Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: wetwillie on December 31, 2017, 04:24:02 PM
im really surprised we have been able to continue to recruit decent QB's after we grind starting QB's into a nub every year
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: Pete on December 31, 2017, 05:48:46 PM
He couldn’t walk without a knee brace when we signed him.  Snake bit.

I wish him the best in life, but man he should not be playing football.
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: KST8FAN on September 08, 2018, 10:33:28 AM
Meet Jesse Ertz tent sponsored by Cox in SW corner gate D.  "It's free!"

No takers when we walked in to the Bill.

Tom

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Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: SkinnyBenny on September 08, 2018, 12:28:47 PM
Well it is Motorcycle Saturday, Tom.
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: mocat on September 18, 2018, 07:01:42 AM
I've been on the fence about Ertz since the beginning, but from my view the guy is just a bundle of nerves. It's pretty obvious he gets rattled on the road against teams with a pulse which contributes to the overthrows and procedural penalties. Of course our coaching staff doesn't help because it seems like they call the game without any regard to what is actually happening.

:frown:

He was on a four game winning streak away from home before tonight, dumbass :surprised:

He was poor throwing the ball tonight though, no doubt. Even with the million drops he still threw the ball like poop. It didn't have anything to do with nerves, he was uncomfortable in the pocket, he seemed to hurry himself when he didn't need to.

Im frustrated as hell, so maybe somebody can talk me down:  But has Ertz ever beaten a good team?  A&M?

But if we would have won tonight this wouldn't have counted as a good team, so who gives a crap.

So this is a bad loss?

Not helping

Your point is stupid and contrived, really who gives a crap. Mason Rudolph has never beaten a good team, neither did Pat Mahomes, who gives a crap. He did enough to beat OSU but he doesn't play defense so we didn't win. JT Barrett has beat a lot of good teams but he sucks. This QB from UT has the #4 team in OT and they scored one damn offensive touchdown in regulation. Your point is dumb, I'm sure you'll make 8 more posts about it though.

Ertz = Mahomes

That makes me feel better.

As much as I love MIR calling Mahomes being awesome (and I do love it), it almost feels better to go back and see where dumbass steffy stood on the matter
Title: Re: what if jerry ertz is a complete badass??
Post by: MakeItRain on September 18, 2018, 08:19:34 AM
Thanks for continuing to highlight the fact that I'm a baller ass NFL scout, I lost stream.