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TITLETOWN - A Decade Long Celebration Of The Greatest Achievement In College Athletics History => Kansas State Football => Topic started by: steve dave on June 23, 2015, 03:42:05 PM
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PM them to your bud steve dave right now! I will post them if you say it's ok or not if you tell me not to. OR I'll hint at them if you say I can do that. I am 100% iron clad with insider info you don't want me to share. That's a promise. How are our QBs looking? WRs going to suck terrible ass or maybe actually kind of good? Etc.
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text messages have been sent
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I also would like a PM with insidery info.... I will take it to my grave.
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I also would like a PM with insidery info.... I will take it to my grave.
Gonna win 'em all!
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PM me, I will PM Emo, he will PM Wacky, and Wacky will post it super anonymously. This is win-win, guys. Let the PM'S flow!
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I never get PMs so some great insider tidbits would make me feel loved.
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I have some really interesting grumblings. I'll pm them to everyone, not named stevedave, who wants them.
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I have some really interesting grumblings. I'll pm them to everyone, not named stevedave, who wants them.
:cheers:
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Meh. I've seen this before.
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I have a recent Snyder story w/ one of our incoming freshman.
This incoming OL freshman was being presented some award here recenty, either academics or football award (kid is kinda smart, I guess). He was posing w/ Snyder with his award, and after the pictures, Snyder turns to freshman and says, "
that is the last time you are going to see me smile".............. :ohno:
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I have a recent Snyder story w/ one of our incoming freshman.
This incoming OL freshman was being presented some award here recenty, either academics or football award (kid is kinda smart, I guess). He was posing w/ Snyder with his award, and after the pictures, Snyder turns to freshman and says, "
that is the last time you are going to see me smile".............. :ohno:
our bill is so charming
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Imagine him saying it in a creepy hushed voice too
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Send those secret PMs buds!
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how extreme are we talking here?
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how extreme are we talking here?
anywhere from "I want steve dave to post this on the board because I don't want to post it under my name" to "literally I will die if anyone but me and steve dave knows about this and I trust him that much to not tell anyone"
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how extreme are we talking here?
anywhere from "I want steve dave to post this on the board because I don't want to post it under my name" to "literally I will die if anyone but me and steve dave knows about this and I trust him that much to not tell anyone"
When you think about it, you'll see that SD is really a full service insider service provider. Industry leading, IMO.
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I can say with personal certainty that sd will be as discrete or open with the information you provide as you wish.
That goes for any of the mods, FWIW. Stand up guys.
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Lot's of talk about Banks being a freak athlete, but he's behind on the playbook. Your usual racist stuff. Hope that helps, SD.
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Why are people sending these PM's to me and not SD?
I don't care that Banks has a 12 pack and has already learned the playbook better than Bazooka Joe. Also who cares if Judah Jones is catching everything thrown his way?
Seriously, the only PM's I want are hot fishing spot tips and people telling me how adorable my dog is (Tonya/Wacky)
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lfbiq on display by ben ji here
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Why are people sending these PM's to me and not SD?
I don't care that Banks has a 12 pack and has already learned the playbook better than Bazooka Joe. Also who cares if Judah Jones is catching everything thrown his way?
Seriously, the only PM's I want are hot fishing spot tips and people telling me how adorable my dog is (Tonya/Wacky)
Judah is gone, bud. :frown: #MyGuyGone #RIP
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See! This is why people need to stop sending me these Extreme Football Insider Tidbits.
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:lol:
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Ben JI, can you make a thread where you post "Lady's pic of the day" so I can get through the day? TIA!
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Here you go wacky. Just got done with a walk then a bath.
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:love:
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Here you go wacky. Just got done with a walk then a bath.
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Thx. for the pic. I never saw a naked dog posed like that! :Jeffy:
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Lot's of talk about Banks being a freak athlete, but he's behind on the playbook. You're usual racist stuff. Hope that helps, SD.
If you are going to engage in pathetic race-baiting, know the difference between "your" and "you're." Or, better yet, stop race-baiting.
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Lot's of talk about Banks being a freak athlete, but he's behind on the playbook. You're usual racist stuff. Hope that helps, SD.
If you are going to engage in pathetic race-baiting, know the difference between "your" and "you're." Or, better yet, stop race-baiting.
inconceivable that a guy who got here two weeks ago doesn't know the playbook
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lulz. Here comes super tuck steffy up to the mic.
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Lot's of talk about Banks being a freak athlete, but he's behind on the playbook. You're usual racist stuff. Hope that helps, SD.
If you are going to engage in pathetic race-baiting, know the difference between "your" and "you're." Or, better yet, stop race-baiting.
inconceivable that a guy who got here two weeks ago doesn't know the playbook
Right. Just hope he has enough of it down to get in the mix for the fall. With the offense we are going to run this year, I'm thinking lack of playbook knowledge might not big as big of a hurdle to seeing the field.
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Lot's of talk about Banks being a freak athlete, but he's behind on the playbook. You're usual racist stuff. Hope that helps, SD.
If you are going to engage in pathetic race-baiting, know the difference between "your" and "you're." Or, better yet, stop race-baiting.
inconceivable that a guy who got here two weeks ago doesn't know the playbook
Right. Just hope he has enough of it down to get in the mix for the fall. With the offense we are going to run this year, I'm thinking lack of playbook knowledge might not big as big of a hurdle to seeing the field.
And just what offense are we going to run this year,Steffy
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Lot's of talk about Banks being a freak athlete, but he's behind on the playbook. You're usual racist stuff. Hope that helps, SD.
If you are going to engage in pathetic race-baiting, know the difference between "your" and "you're." Or, better yet, stop race-baiting.
inconceivable that a guy who got here two weeks ago doesn't know the playbook
Right. Just hope he has enough of it down to get in the mix for the fall. With the offense we are going to run this year, I'm thinking lack of playbook knowledge might not big as big of a hurdle to seeing the field.
And just what offense are we going to run this year,Steffy
The Slammin' Sammy Lamur package... ev-erry play
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Lot's of talk about Banks being a freak athlete, but he's behind on the playbook. You're usual racist stuff. Hope that helps, SD.
If you are going to engage in pathetic race-baiting, know the difference between "your" and "you're." Or, better yet, stop race-baiting.
inconceivable that a guy who got here two weeks ago doesn't know the playbook
Right. Just hope he has enough of it down to get in the mix for the fall. With the offense we are going to run this year, I'm thinking lack of playbook knowledge might not big as big of a hurdle to seeing the field.
And just what offense are we going to run this year,Steffy
The Slammin' Sammy Lamur package... ev-erry play
This. And also cool passes to Gronk.
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Fwiw I can confirm sd is a stud in the way he handles PMs and he subtly brings it up and then Captain Crap tries to pretend he knows what is actually going on and tries to deny it.
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Steve Dave is going to be pretty upset at you guys for rough ridin' up his thread.
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it'll be ok ... brookie pimp will come in, drop some sweet intel and then be all :buh-bye:
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I'd really like to know how our running backs are shaping up. Also how Tanner Wood is doing.
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I'd really like to know how our running backs are shaping up. Also how Tanner Wood is doing.
PM the answers to this and other questions to me all extreme insiders
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I'd really like to know how our running backs are shaping up. Also how Tanner Wood is doing.
This is how this thread is done. You either have good questions, or good answers. Of course we knew we could count on Cas to deliver, it's not like he hasn't been out bbs'ing most of you dorks since before he could by smokes. I don't even think he smokes though. Too busy kicking ass at cat football. The rest of you need to take a look in the mirror and clean up your rough ridin' posting and your lives.
You all have TWO choices to make today. Will you contribute a PM to Steve Dave, and by extension this community (i.e. rough ridin' hero)? Or will you post a question that should be answered, and thus help propel those brave answer seekers on this board?
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I encourage all to PM steve dave any new locker room videos that look like the weirdest catlab video come to life.
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I would be interested to know what newcomers are turning heads so far.
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Friend told me that his buddy on the team said Banks is THE guy if he can learn the playbook. Pretty good source. Apparently his arm has been more impressive than originally thought. Very least he'll see a lot of DSams packages.
(Not that everyone didn't already know that... :facepalm:)
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do not be ashamed of that tidbit, KanSt43
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I hate the word tidbit
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Friend told me that his buddy on the team said Banks is THE guy if he can learn the playbook. Pretty good source. Apparently his arm has been more impressive than originally thought. Very least he'll see a lot of DSams packages.
(Not that everyone didn't already know that... :facepalm:)
:Woot:
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At this moment, my hope is that he learns the playbook. Or they simply the playbook.
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For someone who has no idea how complicated a playbook is to learn, what is the degree of difficulty? Is "hoping he learns the playbook" a real possibility, or a fat chance?
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Haven't read a playbook in forever, but I'm fairly positive it's more dependent on what your reads are. It's not like he won't know the receivers routes or the blocking scheme... It's what you're looking for on that said play. LHCBS expects his qb to make right read errrr time.
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we run like 5 different plays in 75 different formations. it's not hard to learn. our playbook being more difficult than any other playbook is a KSTATE0 urban legend.
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For someone who has no idea how complicated a playbook is to learn, what is the degree of difficulty? Is "hoping he learns the playbook" a real possibility, or a fat chance?
There are different degrees of "learning the playbook." The type of knowledge that Klein/Beasley had is really only possible, I believe, with 3-4 years in the system. Hubes might have that type of knowledge by now.
Then there is the "Michael Bishop got here in the summer and started our first game that fall" level of knowledge. I am hoping/optimistic that Banks will be able to acquire that level of knowledge; the coaches say he is a good worker and quick study.
I think the choice for this fall is made harder by the fact that this team--outside of QB--is built to win right now. Eight of our nine starting lineman this fall have substantial experience. Our secondary is major stud. And, our schedule is very nice. Thus, I don't think "taking our lumps this year while we grow with an inexperienced QB" is as attractive of a choice as it might otherwise be (like in 1997). The whole media "K-State loses so much this year, will have to rebuild" is a overreaction to losing Lockett/Waters. Major losses, for sure, but a good portion of the foundation of this team is veteran.
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Haven't read a playbook in forever, but I'm fairly positive it's more dependent on what your reads are. It's not like he won't know the receivers routes or the blocking scheme... It's what you're looking for on that said play. LHCBS expects his qb to make right read errrr time.
#life made the right read every single time, as in, he kept the ball and ran with it.
Everyone still claimed he didn't know the playbook.
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For once this play book ordeal isn't racist since he's a spring recruit. At least that's what I'm going with.
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we run like 5 different plays in 75 different formations. it's not hard to learn. our playbook being more difficult than any other playbook is a KSTATE0 urban legend.
ehhhhhhhhhhhhh
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this team--outside of QB--is built to win right now.
:dubious:
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#myguy !
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we run like 5 different plays in 75 different formations. it's not hard to learn. our playbook being more difficult than any other playbook is a KSTATE0 urban legend.
Banks in his KMAN interview said the playbook is "Just as big as everyone claims it is"
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we run like 5 different plays in 75 different formations. it's not hard to learn. our playbook being more difficult than any other playbook is a KSTATE0 urban legend.
Banks in his KMAN interview said the playbook is "Just as big as everyone claims it is"
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we run like 5 different plays in 75 different formations. it's not hard to learn. our playbook being more difficult than any other playbook is a KSTATE0 urban legend.
Banks in his KMAN interview said the playbook is "Just as big as everyone claims it is"
Great interview from Banks and #Fattyfest champ
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we run like 5 different plays in 75 different formations. it's not hard to learn. our playbook being more difficult than any other playbook is a KSTATE0 urban legend.
I think any other college playbook would also be tough for a guy to learn in a few months.
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we run like 5 different plays in 75 different formations. it's not hard to learn. our playbook being more difficult than any other playbook is a KSTATE0 urban legend.
I think any other college playbook would also be tough for a guy to learn in a few months.
absolutely
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I thought our coordinators read the defense from the cruise ship and called in the plays from the sidelines. :dunno:
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I thought our coordinators read the defense from the cruise ship and called in the plays from the sidelines. :dunno:
less so with a qb they feel confident with making checks
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I thought our coordinators read the defense from the cruise ship and called in the plays from the sidelines. :dunno:
less so with a qb they feel confident with making checks
Fitz said on 810 that the team won't reduce the playbook for Banks like they did for Bishop because "they're way beyond that now". :dubious:
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I thought our coordinators read the defense from the cruise ship and called in the plays from the sidelines. :dunno:
less so with a qb they feel confident with making checks
Fitz said on 810 that the team won't reduce the playbook for Banks like they did for Bishop because "they're way beyond that now". :dubious:
D. Scott, I am sorry for anything bad I have ever said about you. I meant to say it about Fitz, but you were just guilty by associating with such a dumbass.
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tidbit- we will be pretty good but not super good.
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I thought our coordinators read the defense from the cruise ship and called in the plays from the sidelines. :dunno:
less so with a qb they feel confident with making checks
interestingly, I feel like they did it a substantial amount with Klein - like every play - and he's the most "cerebral" and "heady" QB we've ever had.
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I thought our coordinators read the defense from the cruise ship and called in the plays from the sidelines. :dunno:
less so with a qb they feel confident with making checks
interestingly, I feel like they did it a substantial amount with Klein - like every play - and he's the most "cerebral" and "sketti'd" QB we've ever had.
FIFY
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I hate the word tidbit
Are you more a "nugget" man? I always wanted to use "morsel" but couldn't pull it off. I usually just use grumblings or rumblings. Of course, the morsel in the case at hand was rumbling, and not a grumbling, IMO.
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Tidbit: I just watched Banks highlight film, the one with him running around physically and mentally challenged Cali JUCO guys... and if he isn't starting by the first conference game, I'm going to burn V2.0 to the rough ridin' ground.*
*assuming Ertz or Bazooka Joe start and suck complete ass, would be OK with Delton starting and sucking some ass, but not a ton.
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Not really insidery info, but who all is ready for us to burn time outs or take delay of games cause we can't get a play off in time?? I really enjoy it when the students count down and try to help our guys out..........
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get the eff out of here pipe
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I hate the word tidbit
Are you more a "nugget" man? I always wanted to use "morsel" but couldn't pull it off. I usually just use grumblings or rumblings. Of course, the morsel in the case at hand was rumbling, and not a grumbling, IMO.
Grumblings and rumblings
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I thought our coordinators read the defense from the cruise ship and called in the plays from the sidelines. :dunno:
less so with a qb they feel confident with making checks
Fitz said on 810 that the team won't reduce the playbook for Banks like they did for Bishop because "they're way beyond that now". :dubious:
I'm getting really tired of people talking about the playbook with Banks. Not you, obviously, but people like Fitz.
Look, you can have two guys (Bazooka and Ertz) who have a sub-basement floor and a low ceiling, or you can have two guys (Banks and Delton) who have a low floor and a high ceiling due to their athletic ability. They can simply do things that the returning guys can't.
Knowing the damn playbook isn't going to make Hubener throw the ball into the right zip code or prevent Ertz from looking like he's throwing lawn darts out there. You can run the same stinking playbook with all of them, and I'd bet anyone $100 bucks we'd do better with Banks or Delton because of what they can actually do with the damn ball.
Jesus Christ. It's football. It's not neurosurgery. Give fast guy ball. Hit people. Try not to be hit.
It's infuriating.
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I'm rough ridin' pissed too
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I'm getting really tired of people talking about the playbook with Banks. Not you, obviously, but people like Fitz.
Look, you can have two guys (Bazooka and Ertz) who have a sub-basement floor and a low ceiling, or you can have two guys (Banks and Delton) who have a low floor and a high ceiling due to their athletic ability. They can simply do things that the returning guys can't.
Knowing the damn playbook isn't going to make Hubener throw the ball into the right zip code or prevent Ertz from looking like he's throwing lawn darts out there. You can run the same stinking playbook with all of them, and I'd bet anyone $100 bucks we'd do better with Banks or Delton because of what they can actually do with the damn ball.
Jesus Christ. It's football. It's not neurosurgery. Give fast guy ball. Hit people. Try not to be hit.
It's infuriating.
i don't disagree with what you're saying. but can you blame people for mentioning the playbook? we've seen this before. Marc Dunn starting the season over Ell in '02 until Ell won over with his obvious better playmaking ability, Waters starting over Sams in '13 with Sams being the obvious bigger threat. it's not that people WANT Hubener/Ertz over Banks/Delton (some do, i'm sure) but it's just the reality of what is probably going to happen.
i would be surprised if anyone but Ertz starts the season at this point. (i thought it was going to be hubener but apparently he has dropped off this offseason) and i would REALLY be surprised if Ertz ended the season our starter. we will go stagnant with Ertz at some point and a backup will come in and provide a spark because they actually have the ability to make big plays and stretch a defense. it feels so predictable and that is frustrating.
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I'm getting really tired of people talking about the playbook with Banks. Not you, obviously, but people like Fitz.
Look, you can have two guys (Bazooka and Ertz) who have a sub-basement floor and a low ceiling, or you can have two guys (Banks and Delton) who have a low floor and a high ceiling due to their athletic ability. They can simply do things that the returning guys can't.
Knowing the damn playbook isn't going to make Hubener throw the ball into the right zip code or prevent Ertz from looking like he's throwing lawn darts out there. You can run the same stinking playbook with all of them, and I'd bet anyone $100 bucks we'd do better with Banks or Delton because of what they can actually do with the damn ball.
Jesus Christ. It's football. It's not neurosurgery. Give fast guy ball. Hit people. Try not to be hit.
It's infuriating.
i don't disagree with what you're saying. but can you blame people for mentioning the playbook? we've seen this before. Marc Dunn starting the season over Ell in '02 until Ell won over with his obvious better playmaking ability, Waters starting over Sams in '13 with Sams being the obvious bigger threat. it's not that people WANT Hubener/Ertz over Banks/Delton (some do, i'm sure) but it's just the reality of what is probably going to happen.
i would be surprised if anyone but Ertz starts the season at this point. (i thought it was going to be hubener but apparently he has dropped off this offseason) and i would REALLY be surprised if Ertz ended the season our starter. we will go stagnant with Ertz at some point and a backup will come in and provide a spark because they actually have the ability to make big plays and stretch a defense. it feels so predictable and that is frustrating.
I totally agree with what you guys are saying. But in the back of my mind, I'm thinking what if Ertz is or gets good. He broke the Iowa state high school passing record; this has to indicate he has some talent and may be better then expected. With what was said about this being the best receiving group our coach has ever had, maybe these guys will surprise too.
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lol at coleman and that best receiving group interview.
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lol at coleman and that best receiving group interview.
Yea, but it's better than him saying it's the worst.
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Billy Cosh absolutely crushed Maryland state HS records. Maryland is a lot more populous than Iowa. How did that turn out?
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lol at coleman and that best receiving group interview.
Yea, but it's better than him saying it's the worst.
katdaddy is always great at keeping me grounded.
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I totally agree with what you guys are saying. But in the back of my mind, I'm thinking what if Ertz is or gets good. He broke the Iowa state high school passing record; this has to indicate he has some talent and may be better then expected. With what was said about this being the best receiving group our coach has ever had, maybe these guys will surprise too.
i would love for Ertz to be good. i've just never been that impressed with him in person, which admittedly hasn't been THAT much.
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hopefully a kid from Frankfort will break the state's passing record this year, that's basically Jesse Ertz
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TLBL isnt here anymore, if that frankfort kid was here last year it would be a guarantee
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I thought our coordinators read the defense from the cruise ship and called in the plays from the sidelines. :dunno:
less so with a qb they feel confident with making checks
Fitz said on 810 that the team won't reduce the playbook for Banks like they did for Bishop because "they're way beyond that now". :dubious:
Fitz is probably just fitzing up his information. Source probably was talking about how Banks is way beyond dumbing down the playbook. Our media is full of rough riding idiots.
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I'm getting really tired of people talking about the playbook with Banks. Not you, obviously, but people like Fitz.
Look, you can have two guys (Bazooka and Ertz) who have a sub-basement floor and a low ceiling, or you can have two guys (Banks and Delton) who have a low floor and a high ceiling due to their athletic ability. They can simply do things that the returning guys can't.
Knowing the damn playbook isn't going to make Hubener throw the ball into the right zip code or prevent Ertz from looking like he's throwing lawn darts out there. You can run the same stinking playbook with all of them, and I'd bet anyone $100 bucks we'd do better with Banks or Delton because of what they can actually do with the damn ball.
Jesus Christ. It's football. It's not neurosurgery. Give fast guy ball. Hit people. Try not to be hit.
It's infuriating.
i don't disagree with what you're saying. but can you blame people for mentioning the playbook? we've seen this before. Marc Dunn starting the season over Ell in '02 until Ell won over with his obvious better playmaking ability, Waters starting over Sams in '13 with Sams being the obvious bigger threat. it's not that people WANT Hubener/Ertz over Banks/Delton (some do, i'm sure) but it's just the reality of what is probably going to happen.
i would be surprised if anyone but Ertz starts the season at this point. (i thought it was going to be hubener but apparently he has dropped off this offseason) and i would REALLY be surprised if Ertz ended the season our starter. we will go stagnant with Ertz at some point and a backup will come in and provide a spark because they actually have the ability to make big plays and stretch a defense. it feels so predictable and that is frustrating.
I totally agree with what you guys are saying. But in the back of my mind, I'm thinking what if Ertz is or gets good. He broke the Iowa state high school passing record; this has to indicate he has some talent and may be better then expected. With what was said about this being the best receiving group our coach has ever had, maybe these guys will surprise too.
It is a huge advantage to have a QB that understands the system. This isn't Pop Warner.
Banks and Delton are very athletic, no doubt. But I think you short sell the running ability of both Hubes and Ertz. Hubes is a hoss and looked good running the football last year. Ertz is fast.
I just love that we have four options. We have been relatively lucky on QB injuries, considering how we use them. With four options, we can run our QB's more often, knowing that we have options if they get hurt.
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Billy Cosh absolutely crushed Maryland state HS records. Maryland is a lot more populous than Iowa. How did that turn out?
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I hope you mic dropped the eff out of this after posting because you should have.
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I kind of get the feeling that Dana is running the show on offense and is using it as an audition to Currie for the HCIW. Thus we get QBs (Waters, Ertz) who are low risk low reward instead of guys that Snyder would have played back when he was competing for titles (Sams and Banks). Easier to get the job if you win the games you're supposed to instead of trying to win them all and rough ridin' it up I guess.
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who's going to fan appreciation day on saturday?
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I bet at least one fattyfest trivia champion will be
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I kind of get the feeling that Dana is running the show on offense and is using it as an audition to Currie for the HCIW. Thus we get QBs (Waters, Ertz) who are low risk low reward instead of guys that Snyder would have played back when he was competing for titles (Sams and Banks). Easier to get the job if you win the games you're supposed to instead of trying to win them all and rough ridin' it up I guess.
Everything about this statement is ridiculous.
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who's going to fan appreciation day on saturday?
Robert
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I wish there was actual tidbits in this thread. :frown:
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I wish there was actual tidbits in this thread. :frown:
Yea, it's like trying to pinpoint who farted in a room full of ladies and you're that one guy that they are all looking at. :nono:
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I've heard that Banks has been pleasantly surprising. It nothing new, but more confirmation, obviously.
I agree with everyone that Ertz probably starts about 4-5 games. He probably adequately gets us through the three rummies and then struggles at OSU. Then, at some point in the first half when Ertz can't get us across midfield by somewhere in the second quarter against TCU, Banks probably comes in and gets us going.
Banks probably gets more snaps against OU, and if he does well, he starts, or get the majority of snaps, by Texas.
Regardless, my gut says that Banks is starting by 11/5 against Baylor and is tabbed to lead us through the stretch run of five games. With the open week between UT and Baylor, the timing just seems right. Especially since it's the weakest part of the schedule.
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Pretty good assumption, Panjandrum.
Jesse Ertz reminds me a lot of Allan Evridge.
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I've heard that Banks has been pleasantly surprising. It nothing new, but more confirmation, obviously.
I agree with everyone that Ertz probably starts about 4-5 games. He probably adequately gets us through the three rummies and then struggles at OSU. Then, at some point in the first half when Ertz can't get us across midfield by somewhere in the second quarter against TCU, Banks probably comes in and gets us going.
Banks probably gets more snaps against OU, and if he does well, he starts, or get the majority of snaps, by Texas.
Regardless, my gut says that Banks is starting by 11/5 against Baylor and is tabbed to lead us through the stretch run of five games. With the open week between UT and Baylor, the timing just seems right. Especially since it's the weakest part of the schedule.
Brett and Wally are currently opining that Banks is a needless complication bc he does what Delton does, doesn't look good on tape, and that if he does turn out decent it's most likely in a wildcat role that just stunts Delton's growth by blocking him, thereby leading our prized 2015 recruit to transfer. Good grief.
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Wally is to accurate tidbits ;) as KU is to safe women.
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there is no way anybody with the name "Ertz" is good at football
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California Love is going to be the starter on day 1, and you can take that to the bank.
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WYATT IS ON WITH BITB RIGHT NOW DROPPING BITS OF TID
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As long as Banks doesn't high step he'll be fine. So, put the kid out there and just let it happen.
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WYATT IS ON WITH BITB RIGHT NOW DROPPING BITS OF TID
:thumbs: Thanks for the heads up!
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TIDBIT: DJamer Wally refuses to spin California Love at wedding receptions.
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WYATT IS ON WITH BITB RIGHT NOW DROPPING BITS OF TID
WHAT DID HE SAY, DICKSTONE?
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Yeah WTF Dickstone!
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He really didn't say anything important.
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WE WILL BE THE JUDGE OF THAT!
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He literally had no bits
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Heard a few things today about the QB battle from a players parent.....
First of all, sounds like. Huebner has really made some really big strides since the spring game and is back in the mix.
The front runner is Ertz, with Huebs very close behind....my source had glowing reviews of what Huebner has done since what we saw in KC..,dramatically improved.
Banks is behind on the playbook of course and would be behind the other two. Definitely talented and a hard worker
Expect Delton to most likely redshirt
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Heard a few things today about the QB battle from a players parent.....
First of all, sounds like. Huebner has really made some really big strides since the spring game and is back in the mix.
The front runner is Ertz, with Huebs very close behind....my source had glowing reviews of what Huebner has done since what we saw in KC..,dramatically improved.
Banks is behind on the playbook of course and would be behind the other two. Definitely talented and a hard worker
Expect Delton to most likely redshirt
:Woohoo: :Woohoo:
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Now that was a juicy morsel I can really sink my teeth into
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Hubes is positioning change to tight end and hubedozer formation. Ertz is full-time backup qb. Banks is starter and Delton carries his water jug around on gamedays.
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Heard a few things today about the QB battle from a players parent.....
First of all, sounds like. Huebner has really made some really big strides since the spring game and is back in the mix.
The front runner is Ertz, with Huebs very close behind....my source had glowing reviews of what Huebner has done since what we saw in KC..,dramatically improved.
Banks is behind on the playbook of course and would be behind the other two. Definitely talented and a hard worker
Expect Delton to most likely redshirt
This doesn't surprise me.
Question: If Hubes and Ertz are clear 1/2, do we try to redshirt both Banks and Delton? Also, we have the stud from Missouri coming in next year. Very interesting situation. If we did redshirt both, next year we would have Senior, Junior, Sophomore, Freshman, and Redshirting Freshman at QB. That seems like what you want for your program, but I'm not sure.
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Redshirt everyone and start Gronk at qb? :dunno:
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Banks wouldn't be here if anyone other than delton was worth a crap.
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Redshirt everyone and start Gronk at qb? :dunno:
I could get behind this.
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Banks wouldn't be here if anyone other than delton was worth a crap.
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I agree
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there is no way anybody with the name "Ertz" is good at football
:dunno:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zach_Ertz (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zach_Ertz)
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Anybody that can't figure out why we added another QB to the roster in the summer is a rough riding idiot. Going to a 4th scholarship qb is very rational. Specially considering one of the scholarship QB is a former walk-on.
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Anybody that can't figure out why we added another QB to the roster in the summer is a rough riding idiot. Going to a 4th scholarship qb is very rational. Specially considering one of the scholarship QB is a former walk-on.
This
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Banks wouldn't be here if anyone other than delton was worth a crap.
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yeah
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Wyatt vision said ertz is going to be the guy. Not sure how much stock I put into that but whatever. What happened to the dude that could be pretty good from juco that broke his leg so nobody recruited him. Did he get Bruced?
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Wyatt vision said ertz is going to be the guy. Not sure how much stock I put into that but whatever. What happened to the dude that could be pretty good from juco that broke his leg so nobody recruited him. Did he get Bruced?
he left
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Wyatt vision said ertz is going to be the guy. Not sure how much stock I put into that but whatever. What happened to the dude that could be pretty good from juco that broke his leg so nobody recruited him. Did he get Bruced?
Laird left the team
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Wyatt is just a puppet for K-State athletics and will just say whatever they tell him to say.
Wyatt: "Hey Coach, who you got starting QB this year?"
Bill: "Hi Wyatt, how is the family? Your grandkids getting A's in school?" The QB's have all made great progress and are battling for that #1 spot."
Wyatt: "Sure that is great to hear. There has to be one that has a slight advantage right?"
Bill: "Sure Wyatt. You know Ertz has been here for X years and knows the playbook really well and really persevered during the offseason to improve himself as person and student athlete. Don't be surprised to see him under center."
Wyatt: "That is great news Coach. You know he and Heubner remind me of Colin Klein and well it's just a great time to a part of the Wildcat Family. Go Cats and good luck Coach!"
<Wyatt Walks away>
<Bill shakes his head and chuckles thinking "that Wyatt guy will believe anything I say."
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Wyatt is easily the most awe shux leave it to beaver type in the modern world. Probably would have been in the 50s too.
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Ertz is going to be the starter on game one. I can say that with 100% confidence
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there is no way anybody with the name "Ertz" is good at football
Shut up mocat. If even one time in his entire career he goes turbo sketti and just plows through some 5'-8" 170 lb free safety then after the play stands over him and says "Ertz, don't it?" Then that alone would make him great.
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Wyatt is easily the most awe shux leave it to beaver type in the modern world. Probably would have been in the 50s too.
I think you would be surprised were you to interact with Wyatt IRL when he's in a non-professional setting. Or so I've heard.
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there is no way anybody with the name "Ertz" is good at football
Shut up mocat. If even one time in his entire career he goes turbo sketti and just plows through some 5'-8" 170 lb free safety then after the play stands over him and says "Ertz, don't it?" Then that alone would make him great.
:horrorsurprise:
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there is no way anybody with the name "Ertz" is good at football
Shut up mocat. If even one time in his entire career he goes turbo sketti and just plows through some 5'-8" 170 lb free safety then after the play stands over him and says "Ertz, don't it?" Then that alone would make him great.
:horrorsurprise:
:love:
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Welp sorry MIR fam in advance for both of the obscenity laced tirades that will erupt from my mouth when Ertz trots out for the first snap followed by Hubes in mop up time in the second half.
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So familiar. I'm gonna have to find the audio of The Ed calling OBz' office to make sure Sams would be starting over that other kid.
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Wyatt is easily the most awe shux leave it to beaver type in the modern world. Probably would have been in the 50s too.
I think you would be surprised were you to interact with Wyatt IRL when he's in a non-professional setting. Or so I've heard.
Can confirm, he was dating the lady that lived next door to my college house. He's a heavy smoker too.
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I drunkenly talked to Wyatt at a nutPAK, maybe the same one as the incident, and yeah, he's cool off the record.
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Wyatt is easily the most awe shux leave it to beaver type in the modern world. Probably would have been in the 50s too.
I think you would be surprised were you to interact with Wyatt IRL when he's in a non-professional setting. Or so I've heard.
Can confirm, he was dating the lady that lived next door to my college house. He's a heavy smoker too.
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Yeah, he use to listen to our play-by-play and critique it for us. He's super fly, but he is definitely a puppy when it comes to his job. Watching him leave to smoke during his broadcasts was adorable as well. He set a timer, knowing how long commercials would last.
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lol @ that description. Wyatt is a bachelor who loves to pound beers and has a different girlfriend every month.
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Super excited for the first "why doesn't bill open up the playbook" that one is always great fodder
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lol @ that description. Wyatt is a bachelor who loves to pound beers and has a different girlfriend every month.
:love: Mods, change this to the EXTREME WYATT THOMPSON INSIDER TIDBITS! thread, pls. Thx.
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He's married and hasn't smoked in nearly 2 years :two_cents:
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Glad to hear I was wrong (don't feel that way often). As a play by play, a little before average for football and a little above for bball. When he's being interviewed on kc sports radio, he's the worst. Basically never gives any real opinions our predictions. Just awful.
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Glad to hear I was wrong (don't feel that way often). As a play by play, a little before average for football and a little above for bball. When he's being interviewed on kc sports radio, he's the worst. Basically never gives any real opinions our predictions. Just awful.
He is not the best out there but at least better than the ones down at Larryville.
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I'm still not over Greg Sharp. BITB and it's not close.
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I'm still not over Greg Sharp. BITB and it's not close.
Oh really? Have you heard him act like a raging jackass on the NU calls, because I have. He is dead to me.
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I'm still not over Greg Sharp. BITB and it's not close.
Oh really? Have you heard him act like a raging jackass on the NU calls, because I have. He is dead to me.
You bet, Pete. I can't stand him.
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I miss him, but rarely listen to games on the radio so oh well
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He got mumped over by the Stecklines (former employer of mine). I don't blame him for taking the next D1 job available.
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Daniel is looking like a heisman winner
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I'm still not over Greg Sharp. BITB and it's not close.
Oh really? Have you heard him act like a raging jackass on the NU calls, because I have. He is dead to me.
You bet, Pete. I can't stand him.
Pelini ruined him.
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I love him :frown:
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He's married and hasn't smoked in nearly 2 years :two_cents:
I didn't realize he got married. I bet he still pounds beers and cusses like a sailor though. I met him once in like 2011 and he was just chugging booze at the time
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He's married and hasn't smoked in nearly 2 years :two_cents:
I didn't realize he got married. I bet he still pounds beers and cusses like a sailor though. I met him once in like 2011 and he was just chugging booze at the time
i have told this story before, and it happened to be in 2011 at the cotton bowl. he liked to party, at that time
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He's been married for a long time, guys.
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He's been married for a long time, guys.
No he recently remarried. By recent I mean within the last year or so.
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Also, one thing from Wyatt on 810 that was actual info and a bit surprising was that if a depth chart was released today Sean Newlan would be the starting safety over Kaleb Prewitt.
I had a buddy who said that Prewitt had his pads and helmet taken out of his locker by the coaching staff at one point and then the next day Prewitt came back to practice in his own gear ready to practice.
Kind of odd. Don't know how accurate this is. I assume he saw it posted on GPC.
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Yeah, Newlan is starting right now
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Also, one thing from Wyatt on 810 that was actual info and a bit surprising was that if a depth chart was released today Sean Newlan would be the starting safety over Kaleb Prewitt.
I had a buddy who said that Prewitt had his pads and helmet taken out of his locker by the coaching staff at one point and then the next day Prewitt came back to practice in his own gear ready to practice.
Kind of odd. Don't know how accurate this is. I assume he saw it posted on GPC.
why's prewett in the dog house?
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He got mumped over by the Stecklines (former employer of mine). I don't blame him for taking the next D1 job available.
No he didn't.
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Also, one thing from Wyatt on 810 that was actual info and a bit surprising was that if a depth chart was released today Sean Newlan would be the starting safety over Kaleb Prewitt.
I had a buddy who said that Prewitt had his pads and helmet taken out of his locker by the coaching staff at one point and then the next day Prewitt came back to practice in his own gear ready to practice.
Kind of odd. Don't know how accurate this is. I assume he saw it posted on GPC.
I would take either; I think they're both going to be great. The secondary is going to be solid for at least the next couple of years.
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Just listened to Stanbot interviewed by Kietzman on a podcast; he says Ertz can run and is a good athlete.
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Also, one thing from Wyatt on 810 that was actual info and a bit surprising was that if a depth chart was released today Sean Newlan would be the starting safety over Kaleb Prewitt.
I had a buddy who said that Prewitt had his pads and helmet taken out of his locker by the coaching staff at one point and then the next day Prewitt came back to practice in his own gear ready to practice.
Kind of odd. Don't know how accurate this is. I assume he saw it posted on GPC.
why's prewett in the dog house?
Doghouse or injury that he is not supposed to practice with? :dunno:
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Just listened to Stanbot interviewed by Kietzman on a podcast; he says Ertz can run and is a good athlete.
He's the clear cut 1 right now (for better or worse). I'm having a hard time getting excited about it.
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Carson Coffman redux. :party:
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Fan day nuggets, tidbits morsels and more
-The QBs all look pretty pud. Bazooka should stick to bombs bc he still can't hit crap intermediately. Very nice in person and wins the player pvegs irrationally loves even tho he probably isn't very good at football and won't play much award. California Amor threw a nice deep corner pass for a td. Looked raw and pretty noodle armed overall. Ertz is #1. Nothing he did really stood out but it looked obvious he's at the top. Delton looked super stud hoss biscuit eating buff in uni but throws were kinda meh. Could he be #2? Didn't get the sense Mr. Amor was a real threat on the depth chart.
- Charles Jones looks to be RB1. Silmon was next and is very nice to small children and looks great in pictures. Don't even remember seeing Warmack but imagine he was there. Leverett caught a pass and I looked up his number on the roster and was like oh right he is still a person that is here.
- Newlan with the 1s
- Heath looks like he'll play a lot. Klein looked good, dropped nothing, and had a totes adorbs moment with Burns where he caught a ball on him and Burns tried to rip it away after the play was over but more in a love you bruh you got me and go cats ain't it great to be #family kind of way. Burton, Andre Davis, Cook all up there. No surprises.
- Zuber made a nice catch on the sideline and was running drills with all the skills guys who won't ever play this season.
- Lee and Davis (sigh) were starters. Moore was out there and Sizelove/Tanking with the 2s
- Didn't pay much attention to OL/DL tho Honey Bear made some angry bull rush move that made me happy. He and Geary would make a super fun combo on pvegs All American 5'11 and under team. Someone said Stiverson wasn't there but didn't notice. Risner is the center. Shelley, Walker, and the aforementioned Honey Bear all seemed to be team true frosh who could could possibly play this season.
- After practice Bill and the captains spoke about how emaws are the greatest fans in the history of fandom and Bill said the year before he got there we avg'd 13k a game and then he got the team to stop being super pud and consequently helped us all re-discover our inner emawsomeness
- Unless you're a football coach or just stare at one position group or player for a long time it's hard to deduce crap. There are a ton of a drills and it all moves fast and Bill's probs just rough riding around for some of it. For instance, Burns briefly wore a yellow bib over his def jersey and ran some routes with the wrs. Anyway, I'm low FBIQ and needed the roster list they gave us to identify many of the guys so take my observos with a grain of salt. Getting on the field was swoots and between the WSC and new Vanier this rough rider is gonna be loud and feel much more like almost a real stadium. Also not really impressed with the turf in person. I've been away a long time and have only heard ppl complain about it in chat while watching on tv. But walking around it reminded me of the fake grass hobos sleep on and kids soccer games take place on in this park where I lived in Seattle except the BSFS turf was more matted and rife with crusty looking malt liquorish stains.
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Pvegs, that was amazing. You are a hero.
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Great stuff. :emawkid:
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Dakorey Johnson has not left the team despite his tweet that he was done with football
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Dakorey Johnson has not left the team despite his tweet that he was done with football
Wut
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Dakorey Johnson has not left the team despite his tweet that he was done with football
Wut
Darreyl Patterson?
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Pvegs those were some tasty bits of tid.
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I am going to piggy back off of Pvegs sentiments.
I agree that Ertz looked very good and will most likely be our starter for Game 1. The most important thing that I noticed was that Ertz and sometimes Hubener had their timing down. Knowing the speed and the routes of the receiver is key to avoiding interceptions. Ertz consistently threw to his receivers as they broke and his passes hit them a split second after they turned. He stood out among the rest.
Heath is our deep threat guy. I can not imagine leaving him off the field as he may be the only receiver that can stretch the defense and keep them honest. Klein looked solid and will be a good possession receiver. Something that enamored me is that at one point the qb's separated and Hubener and Banks went with the starting offensive line and ran read option plays. It looked like our goal line offense. Interestingly enough, sometimes we would go two back sets and one would be split wide. Silmon and Barnes took turns split wide. Maybe this is a wrinkle that Dimel may put in place to create more mismatches towards the goal line.
Another interesting prospect is Kalin Heath. He may just redshirt this year, but the kid is big. He also was split wide in a few sets. He could be one to watch for next year.
Along with Pvegs, I agree that Jones is our #1 and Silmon looks to be #2. Silmon is very compact and I love his physicality. Barnes, Warmack, and Leverett were also in the mix.
TE's - Small and Valentine were running with the ones and Heiman was running routes with Landon Root as QB. Heiman is huge, but he lumbers downfield. Small and Valentine look to run better routes and Small, especially, looks like he has some speed.
Defensively, I saw a lot of the same things that pvegs saw. One that stood out was "Honey Bear" Bryce English. He was unblockable and has a motor! During one drill, he got underneath Risner, stood him up, and drove him 4 yards back. I would be shocked if he does not get a significant amount of reps this year. I would use him on passing downs specifically or between the 20s.
Another one that stood out during team time was Marquel Bryant; he looked fast and hopefully he has a breakout season. Davis Clark, which I have never heard of until the Spring Game, was impressive too.
Newlan at safety was a bit surprising, but he looked the part. It looks like Donnie Starks may start or at least split reps at nickel back. I did not see anything noticeable in concerns to the defense, but I was focusing primarily on the offense. However, during special teams, one caught my eye, Jayd Kirby. The kids is big and fast. He looked physical and I would not be surprised to see him starting on special teams and being in the mix as a reserve linebacker.
I have also heard that Darreyl Patterson is still on the team and he was on the Fan Appreciation Day roster card.
It was only an hour long practice, but I believe it provided some insight into who may start and/or get playing time.
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6-6 or 7-5 depending on T.Tech.
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Also, as much as I would like Banks to be our QB, he looked like the least likely candidate. He could come in during goal line situations, but based off what I saw yesterday, I find it very unlikely that he starts. His throws were just a bit behind and his timing was off; he would release the ball late and as the receiver turned. Now, again, it was just one practice, but there was significant separation between Ertz and the others.
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Dakorey Johnson has not left the team despite his tweet that he was done with football
Seems like it would be tough to play for K-State and the Seahawks at the same time. :dunno:
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Also, as much as I would like Banks to be our QB, he looked like the least likely candidate. He could come in during goal line situations, but based off what I saw yesterday, I find it very unlikely that he starts. His throws were just a bit behind and his timing was off; he would release the ball late and as the receiver turned. Now, again, it was just one practice, but there was significant separation between Ertz and the others.
This Ertz to hear.
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Jake waters graduated but his spirit lives on in jesse "the body" ertz
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Jake waters graduated but his spirit lives on in jesse "the body" ertz
Hopefully the ertzmobile isn't as prone to shoulder injuries.
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Dakorey Johnson has not left the team despite his tweet that he was done with football
Seems like it would be tough to play for K-State and the Seahawks at the same time. :dunno:
He's that good.
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Love those tasty extreme insider tidbits :lick:
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Also, as much as I would like Banks to be our QB, he looked like the least likely candidate. He could come in during goal line situations, but based off what I saw yesterday, I find it very unlikely that he starts. His throws were just a bit behind and his timing was off; he would release the ball late and as the receiver turned. Now, again, it was just one practice, but there was significant separation between Ertz and the others.
Banks hasn't been at K-State that long. No surprise timing would be off. Probably most easily correctable deficiency to have
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Carson Coffman redux. :party:
CC was a good QB (molasses sweep aside) that scored enough...our defense was a train wreck though.
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Carson Coffman redux. :party:
CC was a good QB (molasses sweep aside) that scored enough...our defense was a train wreck though.
good isn't a word I throw around as glibly as you do
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Coffman's literally named after low-to-medium.
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Also, as much as I would like Banks to be our QB, he looked like the least likely candidate. He could come in during goal line situations, but based off what I saw yesterday, I find it very unlikely that he starts. His throws were just a bit behind and his timing was off; he would release the ball late and as the receiver turned. Now, again, it was just one practice, but there was significant separation between Ertz and the others.
It seems like we were running a lot of intermediate and short routes. Kind of like the spring game. Stuff I don't think we are going to run a lot of this year. Basically our staff trying to keep everything hush. Also stuff that comes with time.
How did the QBs look throwing the deep ball, I think that is far more important.
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Coffman was a very frustrating time in KSU WildWildCats history.
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Coffman was fine.
Will ertz be better than allan evridge
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Also, as much as I would like Banks to be our QB, he looked like the least likely candidate. He could come in during goal line situations, but based off what I saw yesterday, I find it very unlikely that he starts. His throws were just a bit behind and his timing was off; he would release the ball late and as the receiver turned. Now, again, it was just one practice, but there was significant separation between Ertz and the others.
It seems like we were running a lot of intermediate and short routes. Kind of like the spring game. Stuff I don't think we are going to run a lot of this year. Basically our staff trying to keep everything hush. Also stuff that comes with time.
How did the QBs look throwing the deep ball, I think that is far more important.
There was a passing session in which the receivers ran a hitch and go. No one really stood out, but Ertz had a nice pass to Heath, which he dropped. Heath looks to be our deep ball threat as his speed is noticeable and far superior than the other receivers.
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Dakorey Johnson has not left the team despite his tweet that he was done with football
Seems like it would be tough to play for K-State and the Seahawks at the same time. :dunno:
He's that good.
im an idiot
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Dakorey Johnson has not left the team despite his tweet that he was done with football
Seems like it would be tough to play for K-State and the Seahawks at the same time. :dunno:
He's that good.
im an idiot
:cheers:
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Over/Under on the number of times Ertz is referred to as a "game manager" this year?
I'm setting it at 150 to start.
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Over/Under on the number of times Ertz is referred to as a "game manager" this year?
I'm setting it at 150 to start.
Did you miss my note about people being impressed with his ability to run? Game mangers just hand the ball off and pass to shallow routes. I think whomever our quarterback ends up being will handle the ball a lot, as usual for a LHC Bill Snyder football team.
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Over/Under on the number of times Ertz is referred to as a "game manager" this year?
I'm setting it at 150 to start.
Did you miss my note about people being impressed with his ability to run? Game mangers just hand the ball off and pass to shallow routes. I think whomever our quarterback ends up being will handle the ball a lot, as usual for a LHC Bill Snyder football team.
Iowans really stick up for each other, you gotta admire that
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I would rather have Hubes than Ertz.
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so, wait, we have a DB named Donnie Starks?
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Carson Coffman redux. :party:
CC was a good QB (molasses sweep aside) that scored enough...our defense was a train wreck though.
good isn't a word I throw around as glibly as you do
Serviceable is probably more appropriate. The thing though was CC teams had Daniel Thomas and we don't have an equivalent for that at RB. The WRs also were better than too (Quarles, Frosh TT, Salute Hilburn). That being said those CC teams did score a lot.
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It's amazing that this entire board knows our QB and WRs will be the worst group ever fielded by Snyder before they've played a single game together.
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It's amazing that this entire board knows our QB and WRs will be the worst group ever fielded by Snyder before they've played a single game together.
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I don't agree with worst ever. I think the Grant Gregory year probably can't be topped.
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Clearly you all dont remember the time that Carsy Coff answered the bell vs Middle Florida...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9AO5F8Th40
Carson Coffman redux. :party:
CC was a good QB (molasses sweep aside) that scored enough...our defense was a train wreck though.
good isn't a word I throw around as glibly as you do
Serviceable is probably more appropriate. The thing though was CC teams had Daniel Thomas and we don't have an equivalent for that at RB. The WRs also were better than too (Quarles, Frosh TT, Salute Hilburn). That being said those CC teams did score a lot.
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Over/Under on the number of times Ertz is referred to as a "game manager" this year?
I'm setting it at 150 to start.
Did you miss my note about people being impressed with his ability to run? Game mangers just hand the ball off and pass to shallow routes. I think whomever our quarterback ends up being will handle the ball a lot, as usual for a LHC Bill Snyder football team.
I missed that note, but I have concerns that he'll be an effective runner at the Big 12 level.
I'd be more than happy to be wrong.
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Over/Under on the number of times Ertz is referred to as a "game manager" this year?
I'm setting it at 150 to start.
Did you miss my note about people being impressed with his ability to run? Game mangers just hand the ball off and pass to shallow routes. I think whomever our quarterback ends up being will handle the ball a lot, as usual for a LHC LHC Bill Snyder football team.
I missed that note, but I have concerns that he'll be an effective runner at the Big 12 level.
I'd be more than happy to be wrong.
Why? Have you seen him run? He is very fast. If your concern is his slender build, I also share that concern. But the problem isn't speed.
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Over/Under on the number of times Ertz is referred to as a "game manager" this year?
I'm setting it at 150 to start.
Did you miss my note about people being impressed with his ability to run? Game mangers just hand the ball off and pass to shallow routes. I think whomever our quarterback ends up being will handle the ball a lot, as usual for a LHC LHC Bill Snyder football team.
I missed that note, but I have concerns that he'll be an effective runner at the Big 12 level.
I'd be more than happy to be wrong.
Why? Have you seen him run? He is very fast. If your concern is his slender build, I also share that concern. But the problem isn't speed.
Well, considering he got his leg demolished in the Iowa 2A (or whatever) playoffs, yes, I have fears that a Big 12 linebacker may have him riding off of the field on a cart.
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can confirm that the concern isn't speed. but, at the same time, he isn't fast enough to make me not concerned about his elusiveness/strength/breaking tackles ability. waters had decent speed but i didn't feel confident at all about his running ability.
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It's amazing that this entire board knows our QB and WRs will be the worst group ever fielded by Snyder before they've played a single game together.
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ummmm did you watch the spring game?
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It's amazing that this entire board knows our QB and WRs will be the worst group ever fielded by Snyder before they've played a single game together.
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purplehaze bringing the FIRE :lynchmob:
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It's amazing that this entire board knows our QB and WRs will be the worst group ever fielded by Snyder before they've played a single game together.
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ummmm did you watch the spring game?
Exactly...a spring game.
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I would rather have Hubes than Ertz.
Yeah, because we've seen so much of either of them.
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i saw ertz in a an official team tshirt with his name and number on it. thats basically the only way to tell he is a d1 football player.
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i saw ertz in a an official team tshirt with his name and number on it. thats basically the only way to tell he is a d1 football player.
Guess who this extreme insider saw at the Henry Doorley zoo?
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The neek ?!?
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i saw ertz in a an official team tshirt with his name and number on it. thats basically the only way to tell he is a d1 football player.
we've had a lot of good players like that. k-state is the least intimidating team ever in person.
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The neek ?!?
confirmed
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The neek ?!?
confirmed
That's an amazing bit of tid, he appears to be at the zoo alone though :cry:
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Did you interview him?
Gonna win 'em all!
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The neek ?!?
confirmed
That's an amazing bit of tid, he appears to be at the zoo alone though :cry:
nope, had some other people with him iirc
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you should have seen mrs. dave's reaction when she said, "there are some people decked out in KSU gear way over there" and I casually glanced at them said, "that's the guy that carries around LHC Bill Snyder's headset during the games". she thinks I'm some sort of ksu sports rain man or something.
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can confirm that the concern isn't speed. but, at the same time, he isn't fast enough to make me not concerned about his elusiveness/strength/breaking tackles ability. waters had decent speed but i didn't feel confident at all about his running ability.
my mind's eye says this ertz kid's spiral game is solid. yes. tight spirals cutting wind gusts across the plains of kansas.
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Over/Under on the number of times Ertz is referred to as a "game manager" this year?
I'm setting it at 150 to start.
Did you miss my note about people being impressed with his ability to run? Game mangers just hand the ball off and pass to shallow routes. I think whomever our quarterback ends up being will handle the ball a lot, as usual for a LHC LHC LHC Bill Snyder football team.
I missed that note, but I have concerns that he'll be an effective runner at the Big 12 level.
I'd be more than happy to be wrong.
Why? Have you seen him run? He is very fast. If your concern is his slender build, I also share that concern. But the problem isn't speed.
Well, considering he got his leg demolished in the Iowa 2A (or whatever) playoffs, yes, I have fears that a Big 12 linebacker may have him riding off of the field on a cart.
Fair point. I wish he were bigger.
That said, we should roll the dice with QB injuries once the Big 12 starts. We are so good at running the QB; we have four options as QB: take the risk.
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I would rather have Hubes than Ertz.
Yeah, because we've seen so much of either of them.
He can run a ck skettibrain offense. Ertz won't last one big12 game.
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steve dave, does the neek work at the omaha zoo?
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steve dave, does the neek work at the omaha zoo?
not sure
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ummmm did you watch the spring game?
Exactly...a spring game.
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im sorry but you can see whether a person has talent or not by actually playing. thus the spring game counts
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Sounds like Hubes is the guy.
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I don't agree with worst ever. I think the Grant Gregory year probably can't be topped.
Banks, Mastrud, LaMark the Shark, Snipes seem better than what we have now. :dunno:
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from kman sports talk...open practice.. Banks arm behind other 3 qb ...ertz threw well..delton inconsistent
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I don't agree with worst ever. I think the Grant Gregory year probably can't be topped.
Banks, Mastrud, LaMark the Shark, Snipes seem better than what we have now. :dunno:
I'm really looking at QB/WR in this context as an aggregate.
The QB situation was so bad that year that it really drags down the sum total.
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I'm guessing there aren't going to be any "What if Jessie Ertz is a Complete Badass" threads. :frown:
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I loved G^2. He was a 5 heart player.
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I don't agree with worst ever. I think the Grant Gregory year probably can't be topped.
Banks, Mastrud, LaMark the Shark, Snipes seem better than what we have now. :dunno:
I'm really looking at QB/WR in this context as an aggregate.
The QB situation was so bad that year that it really drags down the sum total.
Oh, gotcha. :thumbs:
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"Hey Cali Love, or whatever it is the youngsters over at goEWAM.com are calling you, go out there and throw some softballs today. It won't impact your standing."
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from kman sports talk...open practice.. Banks arm behind other 3 qb ...ertz threw well..delton inconsistent
Didn't somebody say players on the team were impressed with his arm compared to what they heard and they thought he was the guy? Sounds similar to what happened with Sams. Player reports said he was the dude but coaches liked Waters
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I'm guessing there aren't going to be any "What if Jessie Ertz is a Complete Badass" threads. :frown:
Yeah man people are such assholes to not be excited about a guy who has played 2 snaps in 3 years, finished the season as a 3rd string qb, and got recruited over TWICE, the second time just 3 months ago. Shame on you goEMAW.com
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I'll say it forever. How can K-State be in year 5 of the Snyder return and the QB depth chart is topped off by Jesse Ertz aka right handed Alan Evridge??
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Bc our stud went to ucla
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I mean I've seen where Bazooka Joe may have worked his way back in the mix, hell, Stan Parrish had open tryouts, it could be time to bring that back.
So ah, what position you play in high school kid, and where?
I played running back, second string for Otis-Bison, sir!
Well, you're a quarterback at Kansas State now son.
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Bc our stud went to ucla
The same "stud" that has now moved to WR and been recruited over as well???
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I'll say it forever. How can K-State be in year 5 year 7 of the Snyder return and the QB depth chart is topped off by Jesse Ertz aka right handed Alan Evridge??
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I'm guessing there aren't going to be any "What if Jessie Ertz is a Complete Badass" threads. :frown:
Yeah man people are such assholes to not be excited about a guy who has played 2 snaps in 3 years, finished the season as a 3rd string qb, and got recruited over TWICE, the second time just 3 months ago. Shame on you goEMAW.com
That's a nice rant, but it has nothing to do with my post.
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I don't think we directly recruited over Ertz. The only one could be considered Banks and we had only 3 scholarship QBs at the time, one being a former Walk-on. Everyone else is a in a class below him. Also don't think Join Hubener getting more mop up time is important, Jesse was just a red-shirt freshmen last year.
I think the issues is that we are most likely going to start a sophomore QB and the mistakes would made above him. He could be a good player but he should not being playing yet.
Bender and Sams are where the issues land.
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I guess by MIR's logic, we recruited over SAMs with Waters. Did everyone agree on that decision?
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I'm guessing there aren't going to be any "What if Jessie Ertz is a Complete Badass" threads. :frown:
Yeah man people are such assholes to not be excited about a guy who has played 2 snaps in 3 years, finished the season as a 3rd string qb, and got recruited over TWICE, the second time just 3 months ago. Shame on you goEMAW.com
That's a nice rant, but it has nothing to do with my post.
Of course, it being your post, it wasn't clever at all your intent was clear.
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I guess by MIR's logic, we recruited over SAMs with Waters. Did everyone agree on that decision?
Hey dumbshit, Waters wasn't recruited and signed after Snyder saw Sams play spring ball and decided that he needed something more. If memory serves me correctly Waters committed the same weekend as Klein's Heisman Ceremony.
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Is it really that hard to believe that we are going to have the least talented LHC Bill Snyder quarterback since 1992? I mean, it seems obvious to me that this will be the case.
Grant Gregory had a demolished shoulder that he played through. Same with Evridge. I expect Ertz to be no better than those guys WHEN Ertz injures his shoulder.
Will Ertz be better than CCQ? Maybe, but CCQ put up respectable points per game, so it's not too big of a slight to Ertz to suggest he won't be better than CCQ.
Get real dudes. We have some very below average QB play coming our way this year, if not the worst we have seen from Bill since 1992.
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I guess by MIR's logic, we recruited over SAMs with Waters. Did everyone agree on that decision?
Hey dumbshit, Waters wasn't recruited and signed after Snyder saw Sams play spring ball and decided that he needed something more. If memory serves me correctly Waters committed the same weekend as Klein's Heisman Ceremony.
:lol: Jfc, you can't bbs without ever losing your crap.
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from kman sports talk...open practice.. Banks arm behind other 3 qb ...ertz threw well..delton inconsistent
Really? We're supposed to rely on anything the KMAN guys say? Those guys are clueless. They talk to hear themselves talk. And post to see themselves post.
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Also, SAMs was in the system for quite sometime. Like, he was Klein's backup and then Snyder had Klein call up Waters to wrangle him in. Aka... "Recruited over!"
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If the QB were going to be bad we would have recruited a JUCO during the season last year and not the summer. The story about Banks that I heard that we found him this summer will recurring another play for next year and figured out he was eligible right way.
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Also, SAMs was in the system for quite sometime. Like, he was Klein's backup and then Snyder had Klein call up Waters to wrangle him in. Aka... "Recruited over!"
Also, SAMs was in the system for quite sometime. Like, he was Klein's backup and then Snyder had Klein call up Waters to wrangle him in. Aka... "Recruited over!"
The fact we were willing to take Nick Marshall and Jake is all you really need to know about the confidence the staff had in Sams.
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All 4 will fall in an adequacy range that has OBz unable to know which one's which during games.
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Is it really that hard to believe that we are going to have the least talented LHC Bill Snyder quarterback since 1992? I mean, it seems obvious to me that this will be the case.
Grant Gregory had a demolished shoulder that he played through. Same with Evridge. I expect Ertz to be no better than those guys WHEN Ertz injures his shoulder.
Will Ertz be better than CCQ? Maybe, but CCQ put up respectable points per game, so it's not too big of a slight to Ertz to suggest he won't be better than CCQ.
Get real dudes. We have some very below average QB play coming our way this year, if not the worst we have seen from Bill since 1992.
This may be the case but there isn't anything other than a hunch to believe that it will happen. There have been several years under Snyder that we've had qb uncertainty with wildly varying results. Even in '11 everyone wanted a backfield of Slamur and Bryce Brownn people freaked out about Klein and Hubert too. I really have no idea how this is going to go but I'm not going to resign us to 6-6 because I haven't seen these qb's play. I understand people who do, but let's not chalk this up to our destiny or a fact.
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Also, SAMs was in the system for quite sometime. Like, he was Klein's backup and then Snyder had Klein call up Waters to wrangle him in. Aka... "Recruited over!"
Also, SAMs was in the system for quite sometime. Like, he was Klein's backup and then Snyder had Klein call up Waters to wrangle him in. Aka... "Recruited over!"
The fact we were willing to take Nick Marshall and Jake is all you really need to know about the confidence the staff had in Sams.
Nick Marshall was one of the most heavily recruited juco quarterbacks of all time, in addition to this he had offers from every SEC school not named Vanderbilt out of high school. We started recruiting him during Sams' redshirt year at the absolutely latest. Jonathan Banks and his recruitment in no way shape or form resembles that of Nick Marshall.
Why is it that the people who whined the most about Sams v. Waters are the same people that can't stop talking about it? This situation and that situation have nothing of relevance in common, no matter how much you two clowns want to revise history. If we get a couple of games of Ertz playing mediocre with another one of the QBs clearly out playing him within the same games then we'll talk.
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Waters was the #1 juco QB fwiw. We're just relaying patterns here, that's all. Deep breaths, bruh!
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everyone quit relaying patterns
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Slamur and Bryce Brown
Interestingly, both NFL players
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Slamur and Bryce Brown
Interestingly, both NFL players
Wrong bro tho. The DB is pro, but not the scout type QB. IIRC
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Slamur and Bryce Brown
Interestingly, both NFL players
Wrong bro tho. The DB is pro, but not the scout type QB. IIRC
Actually, unless he has since been released...
http://www.buccaneers.com/news/article-smith/Bucs-Add-Former-Storm-Player-Lamur/bac493cc-65ae-403b-82fd-2153eb5e27f5 (http://www.buccaneers.com/news/article-smith/Bucs-Add-Former-Storm-Player-Lamur/bac493cc-65ae-403b-82fd-2153eb5e27f5)
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Slamur and Bryce Brown
Interestingly, both NFL players
Wrong bro tho. The DB is pro, but not the scout type QB. IIRC
Actually, unless he has since been released...
http://www.buccaneers.com/news/article-smith/Bucs-Add-Former-Storm-Player-Lamur/bac493cc-65ae-403b-82fd-2153eb5e27f5 (http://www.buccaneers.com/news/article-smith/Bucs-Add-Former-Storm-Player-Lamur/bac493cc-65ae-403b-82fd-2153eb5e27f5)
Well I'll be... :surprised:
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I'm guessing there aren't going to be any "What if Jessie Ertz is a Complete Badass" threads. :frown:
Yeah man people are such assholes to not be excited about a guy who has played 2 snaps in 3 years, finished the season as a 3rd string qb, and got recruited over TWICE, the second time just 3 months ago. Shame on you goEMAW.com
That's a nice rant, but it has nothing to do with my post.
Of course, it being your post, it wasn't clever at all your intent was clear.
Good grief. It must be terrible to go through life in such a negative, attack mode all the time. Your interpretation of my post was completely wrong.
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Don't you always try to sign as many good QB's as possible? :dunno:
Would you tell Peyton Manning "no" because you already had Tom Brady on scholarship?
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What happened to the one who was the star of Farmageaton at KC. Mr kick blocker, game winner!!! Didn't he go pro?
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What happened to the one who was the star of Farmageaton at KC. Mr kick blocker, game winner!!! Didn't he go pro?
They're all pro now, bud. He's been playing with the Bengals for awhile now tho.
http://www.bengals.com/team/roster/Emmanuel-Lamur/b4e6df20-145b-4c3c-b39d-f861da4a807b
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I think we'll be totally fine with either Bazooka Joe or Bazooka Jesse.
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Also, SAMs was in the system for quite sometime. Like, he was Klein's backup and then Snyder had Klein call up Waters to wrangle him in. Aka... "Recruited over!"
Also, SAMs was in the system for quite sometime. Like, he was Klein's backup and then Snyder had Klein call up Waters to wrangle him in. Aka... "Recruited over!"
The fact we were willing to take Nick Marshall and Jake is all you really need to know about the confidence the staff had in Sams.
Nick Marshall was one of the most heavily recruited juco quarterbacks of all time
:lol: https://rivals.yahoo.com/Auburn/football/recruiting/rankings/rank-3216/0
https://rivals.yahoo.com/Auburn/football/recruiting/player-Nick-Marshall-142185
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Oh man! Just another example why it's harder to pull statements out of your ass since advent if the internet
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Right Handed Alan Evridge might be workable.
Posted using the MoCat and Shooter Jones are garbage app
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Also, SAMs was in the system for quite sometime. Like, he was Klein's backup and then Snyder had Klein call up Waters to wrangle him in. Aka... "Recruited over!"
Also, SAMs was in the system for quite sometime. Like, he was Klein's backup and then Snyder had Klein call up Waters to wrangle him in. Aka... "Recruited over!"
The fact we were willing to take Nick Marshall and Jake is all you really need to know about the confidence the staff had in Sams.
"The fact that we were willing to take Nick Marshall....." Holy crap!
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I don't know as much about KSU cats football as the rest of you and that makes me sad sometimes.
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I don't know as much about KSU cats football as the rest of you and that makes me sad sometimes.
having a good day otherwise?
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tidbit:
Ertz's middle name is "Sisco"
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tidbit:
Hubener was born in Columbus, Ohio
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I don't know as much about KSU cats football as the rest of you and that makes me sad sometimes.
having a good day otherwise?
mos def
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tidbit:
Ertz's middle name is "Sisco"
4th and shorts like a truck, truck, truck
Thighs like what, what, what
3rd and long
Let me see that booooooooooooooomb.
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I'm going to nickname this years offense: "Slothffense"! :lol:
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if ertz is given full reigns as a sophomore qb while sams wasn't so help me god
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Rick, it's fine. Ertz can run.
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I'm not saying that Ertz isn't going to come out of camp looking like the best option at QB; he certainly has a lot of reasons to be the guy who gives us the best chance to win Games 1-3. So, this isn't commentary on that...
However...when people reference KMAN reports, or some things people saw at FAD, I know enough about KSU fans to know that if given any alternative, they're going to root for a kid who comes from a small town, with little fan fare, over a much more athletic or highly recruited option. Bazooka Joe is pretty much the epitome of everything a number of our fans have in mind for what Kansas State football is and should be. He's a walk-on from a small, Kansas town, and he's worked his way up through the depth chart to potentially become the starting QB. It's like a dream come true for some of them.
I guess what I'm saying is that a number of our fans, who are from small towns, vicariously live through a lot of these walk-on guys because they relate to them in some way, and they really can't be objective about who is really out-performing who.
Now, in this case, Ertz may have been a better option at FAD. He was the most steady/consistent option in the Spring Game, so I'm not going to vociferously complain. But I'm just not going to trust a lot of reports right now (outside of some people on here) because I feel like they aren't going to be objective based on the above.
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I find the lack of faith in a guy called Mr. Touchdown to be a little puzzling.
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I'm not saying that Ertz isn't going to come out of camp looking like the best option at QB; he certainly has a lot of reasons to be the guy who gives us the best chance to win Games 1-3. So, this isn't commentary on that...
However...when people reference KMAN reports, or some things people saw at FAD, I know enough about KSU fans to know that if given any alternative, they're going to root for a kid who comes from a small town, with little fan fare, over a much more athletic or highly recruited option. Bazooka Joe is pretty much the epitome of everything a number of our fans have in mind for what Kansas State football is and should be. He's a walk-on from a small, Kansas town, and he's worked his way up through the depth chart to potentially become the starting QB. It's like a dream come true for some of them.
I guess what I'm saying is that a number of our fans, who are from small towns, vicariously live through a lot of these walk-on guys because they relate to them in some way, and they really can't be objective about who is really out-performing who.
Now, in this case, Ertz may have been a better option at FAD. He was the most steady/consistent option in the Spring Game, so I'm not going to vociferously complain. But I'm just not going to trust a lot of reports right now (outside of some people on here) because I feel like they aren't going to be objective based on the above.
this only works if the walkon is actually good. our fans hated Schellenberg for example.
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This board hates ertz because he's white and from Iowa, just like they hated waters (arguably the best throwing QB in kstate history... and he played with a separated shoulder).
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This board hates ertz because he's white and from Iowa, just like they hated waters (arguably the best throwing QB in kstate history... and he played with a separated shoulder).
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i hated waters because i knew that he was incapable of ever winning the big game and that kstate was not going to win a big12 championship with him as our qb.
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And gmafb about Sams already, Lockett was the guy, we needed a QB that could consistently get it to him. Sams was a tc, fp, etc.
I hope banks or delton can be really good, but let's wait and see how ertz performs in the first few games before calling him the next everidge.
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This board hates ertz because he's white and from Iowa, just like they hated waters (arguably the best throwing QB in kstate history... and he played with a separated shoulder).
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This board hates ertz because he's white and from Iowa, just like they hated waters (arguably the best throwing QB in kstate history... and he played with a separated shoulder).
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i hated waters because i knew that he was incapable of ever winning the big game and that kstate was not going to win a big12 championship with him as our qb.
It wasn't waters that held us back
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this only works if the walkon is actually good. our fans hated Schellenberg for example.
Oh, please. They loved him.
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This board hates ertz because he's white and from Iowa, just like they hated waters (arguably the best throwing QB in kstate history... and he played with a separated shoulder).
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Lockett should get a dollar every time a tuck posts some crap like this.
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And gmafb about Sams already, Lockett was the guy, we needed a QB that could consistently get it to him. Sams was a tc, fp, etc.
sams career completion percentage was much higher than waters was. so if successfully getting the ball to lockett was important, we should've went with sams.
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This board hates ertz because he's white and from Iowa, just like they hated waters (arguably the best throwing QB in kstate history... and he played with a separated shoulder).
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i hated waters because i knew that he was incapable of ever winning the big game and that kstate was not going to win a big12 championship with him as our qb.
It wasn't waters that held us back
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Yep, it was all the interceptions
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Because he was run first while waters was the pass first. If sams played full time a full season I'd be shocked if his stats would have held up.
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This board hates ertz because he's white and from Iowa, just like they hated waters (arguably the best throwing QB in kstate history... and he played with a separated shoulder).
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i hated waters because i knew that he was incapable of ever winning the big game and that kstate was not going to win a big12 championship with him as our qb.
It wasn't waters that held us back
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Yep, it was all the interceptions
Or the lack of competent rb
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I'm not saying that Ertz isn't going to come out of camp looking like the best option at QB; he certainly has a lot of reasons to be the guy who gives us the best chance to win Games 1-3. So, this isn't commentary on that...
However...when people reference KMAN reports, or some things people saw at FAD, I know enough about KSU fans to know that if given any alternative, they're going to root for a kid who comes from a small town, with little fan fare, over a much more athletic or highly recruited option. Bazooka Joe is pretty much the epitome of everything a number of our fans have in mind for what Kansas State football is and should be. He's a walk-on from a small, Kansas town, and he's worked his way up through the depth chart to potentially become the starting QB. It's like a dream come true for some of them.
I guess what I'm saying is that a number of our fans, who are from small towns, vicariously live through a lot of these walk-on guys because they relate to them in some way, and they really can't be objective about who is really out-performing who.
Now, in this case, Ertz may have been a better option at FAD. He was the most steady/consistent option in the Spring Game, so I'm not going to vociferously complain. But I'm just not going to trust a lot of reports right now (outside of some people on here) because I feel like they aren't going to be objective based on the above.
this only works if the walkon is actually good. our fans hated Schellenberg for example.
Wichita Collegiate :curse:
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66% completion with a 3:1 td to int and 3500 yards... with Lockett... without a rb... with a separated shoulder. It's crazy that waters gets crap on as much as he does.
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This board hates ertz because he's white and from Iowa, just like they hated waters (arguably the best throwing QB in kstate history... and he played with a separated shoulder).
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i hated waters because i knew that he was incapable of ever winning the big game and that kstate was not going to win a big12 championship with him as our qb.
It wasn't waters that held us back
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Yep, it was all the interceptions
Like the one sams threw at Okie state at the end of the game?
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Oh man, that one interception....
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Sorry for derailing the thread. Tidbit: newlan is athletic, even though he's white!
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Oh man, that one interception....
He lost us a game we could have won, isn't that what matters? He has a smaller sample size, how do you know he wouldn't have been worse than waters?
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We have already done this a dozen times.
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I think sams would have won the ndsu game, he should have played more vs Texas. Other than that, waters was the better option and could have been great if he stayed healthy.
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hey guys, Sams isn't coming back.
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Yeah, that is why I tapped. Its all been done.
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i hated waters because i knew that he was incapable of ever winning the big game and that kstate was not going to win a big12 championship with him as our qb.
Beasley, Bishop, Ell, hell even FreEMAW, and CK will always be remembered for these reasons. In 10 years, no one but super fans will remember who Jake was, unless the pic where you could see his dick through his pants resurfaces.
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Man, this place is firing up!!! You can tell football season is right around the corner. :emawkid: :ksu:
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remember how important that ISU game was to him up in Ames?
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Man, another Waters vs Sams thread................ :Yuck:
I guess there are no other tidbits, so this thread went to :blah: :blah: :jerk: :sdeek: :sdeek: :sdeek:
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this thread turned into the BBS version of an oklahoma drill
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I find the lack of faith in a guy called Mr. Touchdown to be a little puzzling.
I have been saying this.
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Switching topics, apparently Jones played with a pcl injury last year.
http://www.kansas.com/sports/college/big-12/kansas-state/article31423409.html
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a tidbit is that i saw 5 football players at the chef on sunday, but the weird thing is they all came individually except for c-sex little bro and some other guy came as a pair.
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I mean I've seen where Bazooka Joe may have worked his way back in the mix, hell, Stan Parrish had open tryouts, it could be time to bring that back.
So ah, what position you play in high school kid, and where?
I played running back, second string for Otis-Bison, sir!
Well, you're a quarterback at Kansas State now son.
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gratz, XT. i can't wait for the thread where we compare you to daniel sams
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gratz, XT. i can't wait for the thread where we compare you to daniel sams
Puni...I'm disappointed you didn't mention that comparo until now. Pardon me, but I need to work on my stotting.
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Man, another Waters vs Sams thread................ :Yuck:
I guess there are no other tidbits, so this thread went to :blah: :blah: :jerk: :sdeek: :sdeek: :sdeek:
The reason I brought it up is because people are shitting on ertz like they did to waters before he's even played, and its partially because he's a white boy from Iowa, which is total crap. Waters was very talented, Lockett wouldn't have broken records without him. Sorry for having an independent opinion, carry on with your group think.
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The reason I brought it up is because people are shitting on ertz like they did to waters before he's even played, and its partially because he's a white boy from Iowa, which is total crap. Waters was very talented, Lockett wouldn't have broken records without him. Sorry for having an independent opinion, carry on with your group think.
There's plenty of fine reasons to hate Watertz*, including being a white iowan. As Ron Prince once said about victories, I'll never begrudge a reason.
*did I just invent this?
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Nice tidbits purple haze.
Gonna win 'em all!
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Guys, I just don't think Ertz has "it". I hope I'm wrong. I like to win big important games and that usually requires a QB with "it".
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Yep, thank god Waters showed up and elevated TLBL from complete crap player into an NFL draft pick
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Yep, thank god Waters showed up and elevated TLBL from complete crap player into an NFL draft pick
it is funny how it is positioned that way and not the other.
Gonna win 'em all!
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Good grief. He definitely helped, but let's move on. TLBL's numbers blew up under Waters (Yes, I understand Harper leaving helped), but to get back on point, I don't think any of these guys have "it", SD.
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I'm still surprised about all the Waters hate. I appreciate his play and wish him great things the rest of his life.
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Also, SAMs was in the system for quite sometime. Like, he was Klein's backup and then Snyder had Klein call up Waters to wrangle him in. Aka... "Recruited over!"
Also, SAMs was in the system for quite sometime. Like, he was Klein's backup and then Snyder had Klein call up Waters to wrangle him in. Aka... "Recruited over!"
The fact we were willing to take Nick Marshall and Jake is all you really need to know about the confidence the staff had in Sams.
Nick Marshall was one of the most heavily recruited juco quarterbacks of all time
:lol: https://rivals.yahoo.com/Auburn/football/recruiting/rankings/rank-3216/0
https://rivals.yahoo.com/Auburn/football/recruiting/player-Nick-Marshall-142185
I won't call you a dumbass that can't read or follow logic, because I don't want to hurt your feelings but neither of those links disproves what i typed. Now show me the juco QBs like ever that had offers as good as Auburn, Texas, K-State, and Texas Tech. I bet you get less than 5. I know the #1 QB didn't have offers close to that good.
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I'm still surprised about all the Waters hate. I appreciate his play and wish him great things the rest of his life.
I wasn't hating. I was only pointing out that some people claim that TLBL would not have had the numbers he had with Jake. Those same people seem to miss the possibility that Jake would have never had the numbers he had without TLBL. He was also pretty Iowaee, but that has been covered extensively. Good or bad.
Gonna win 'em all!
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I'm still surprised about all the Waters hate. I appreciate his play and wish him great things the rest of his life.
I wasn't hating. I was only pointing out that some people claim that TLBL would not have had the numbers he had with Jake. Those same people seem to miss the possibility that Jake would have never had the numbers he had without TLBL. He was also pretty Iowaee, but that has been covered extensively. Good or bad.
Gonna win 'em all!
I understand. I was more referring to the general tone of lots of posters when Waters' name is mentioned.
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He wouldn't have dobs. Thought I should put an end to that talk quick.
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I mean we're not called Wide Receiver U for nothing.
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this thread turned into the BBS version of an oklahoma drill
I enjoyed this post
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How long do I have to wait for Fanning to come in here and tell me the all of the juco QBs that had better offers than Nick Marshall?
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Also it wasn't acknowledged but Watertz is brilliant.
Also I don't want to get into Waters v. Sams again but I think people are hesitant to have 2013 Waters with this year's team. It is the Waters people who brought this up but it is disingenuous to tout the 2014 version of Waters when making this comparo, everyone would be fine with 2014 Waters if that Ertz will be, but he won't be that. Also 2013 Waters didn't suck because of the run game, he had Hubert who had a 1000 yard season and had a ypc of 5.3 yards. He sucked because he was unconfident and at times acted like he didn't want the football in his hands.
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i've been gone since may, glad to see this conversation is still alive and well
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How long do I have to wait for Fanning to come in here and tell me the all of the juco QBs that had better offers than Nick Marshall?
I'm done beating a dead horse. I mean, you said he was one of the highest recruited juco qb's of all time and that's just not true. Waters was rated higher, had offers from Penn State, Texas, etc. Marshall was nice, but he was barely a top 50 juco recruit. He had high interest in K-State, but jumped ship after Waters. It would have made no sense to have 2 run first QB's on the roster anyway. Especially since our best player was a receiver. However, yes MIR, I'm a complete dumbass, hack, clown, etc. for not buying into the hype of Nick Marshall being one of the most highly touted Juco QB's OF ALL TIME! :Ugh:
Also, yes, he was recruited highly out of HS as an athlete and played DB at Georgia. Not sure what that has to do with his JUCO recruitment.
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thinking ertz is waters and anyone else is sams is the lowest/medium of all low/mediums. shut up low/mediums.
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this thread turned into the BBS version of an oklahoma drill
LOL
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I think the Ertz/someone else conundrum more closely resembles the Dunn/Roberson stalemate.
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thinking ertz is waters and anyone else is sams is the lowest/medium of all low/mediums. shut up low/mediums.
Yeah, it's something like pre-defense for ertz hate that hasn't happened. Weird stuff going on here, man
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thinking ertz is waters and anyone else is sams is the lowest/medium of all low/mediums. shut up low/mediums.
What about thinking Ertz is Sams????
"Now imagine she's he's white"
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I can't even form a hypothetical opinion on this so I guess I will conclude with: I liked it when Hubes clowned Texas in mop up time.
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More like MEHertz.
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I can't even form a hypothetical opinion on this so I guess I will conclude with: I liked it when Hubes clowned Texas in mop up time.
DON'T EVEN CARE > CAN'T EVEN FORM
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How long do I have to wait for Fanning to come in here and tell me the all of the juco QBs that had better offers than Nick Marshall?
I'm done beating a dead horse. I mean, you said he was one of the highest recruited juco qb's of all time and that's just not true. Waters was rated higher, had offers from Penn State, Texas, etc. Marshall was nice, but he was barely a top 50 juco recruit. He had high interest in K-State, but jumped ship after Waters. It would have made no sense to have 2 run first QB's on the roster anyway. Especially since our best player was a receiver. However, yes MIR, I'm a complete dumbass, hack, clown, etc. for not buying into the hype of Nick Marshall being one of the most highly touted Juco QB's OF ALL TIME! :Ugh:
Also, yes, he was recruited highly out of HS as an athlete and played DB at Georgia. Not sure what that has to do with his JUCO recruitment.
Jake Waters didn't have an offer from Texas, wtf?
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It doesn't show on his Rivals page, but he did. It came late. When he was getting ready to announce it was between us, Penn State, NC State, and Texas. Keep up.
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http://www.burntorangenation.com/recruiting/2012/12/7/3740028/iowa-western-cc-qb-jake-waters-texas-longhorns-football-recruiting-juco
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He mushed them!
http://www.burntorangenation.com/recruiting/2012/12/11/3755998/jake-waters-texas-longhorns-wont-visit-penn-state-nittany-lions-kanas-state-wildcats
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Hertz rental quarterback
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Extreme Tidbit Alert - Waters was a good QB but now plays for the Seahawks. Sams transferred.
Can somebody get me an update on Delton? And also this Skylar Thompson kid committed for next year? Is Delton the QB of the future or what? he seemed pretty small to me at the spring game.
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this wacky/MIR debate is heating up folks
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this wacky/MIR debate is heating up folks
To his defense, he's too busy following little league softball, volleyball, horse racing, nascar, rowing, soccer, equestrian, etc. to have the real facts about every sport. He spreads himself too thin at times. :frown:
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Man, how wonderful would EMAW football (#)life be for us now if H3O had chosen to tough it out at PSU or Texas?
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are we gonna lose our roady at UTSA?
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are we gonna lose our roady at UTSA?
NO. They're terrible.
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are we gonna lose our roady at UTSA?
No. They are going to take a major step back. They are losing 36 seniors off last years team.
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I think the Ertz/someone else conundrum more closely resembles the Dunn/Roberson stalemate.
I hope so but would guess this ends more like the Dyls/Webb impasse
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Man, how wonderful would EMAW football (#)life be for us now if H3O had chosen to tough it out at PSU or Texas?
The Cats wouldn't have been the laughing stock of college football in 2013. (having not lost to a D3 school) And would've split a Dr. Pepper in 2014 (probs outright). So yeah, it'd be a beautiful (#)life.
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Man, how wonderful would EMAW football (#)life be for us now if H3O had chosen to tough it out at PSU or Texas?
The Cats wouldn't have been the laughing stock of college football in 2013. (having not lost to a D3 school) And would've split a Dr. Pepper in 2014 (probs outright). So yeah, it'd be a beautiful (#)life.
Well, we didn't lose to a D3 school, so there's that. Also, :facepalm:
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Man, how wonderful would EMAW football (#)life be for us now if H3O had chosen to tough it out at PSU or Texas?
The Cats wouldn't have been the laughing stock of college football in 2013. (having not lost to a D3 school) And would've split a Dr. Pepper in 2014 (probs outright). So yeah, it'd be a beautiful (#)life.
Well, we didn't lose to a D3 school, so there's that. Also, :facepalm:
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this wacky/MIR debate is heating up folks
To his defense, he's too busy following little league softball, volleyball, horse racing, nascar, rowing, soccer, equestrian, etc. to have the real facts about every sport. He spreads himself too thin at times. :frown:
You gave about 18 links, none of which said Waters had an offer from UT.
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I think the Ertz/someone else conundrum more closely resembles the Dunn/Roberson stalemate.
I hope so but would guess this ends more like the Dyls/Webb impasse
I don't recall the coaches ever having anything good to say about Webb. All tidbits we've heard have not been an indictment of the ability of Delton and Banks but the fact that they're not ready. I mean we're talking about a true freshman and a guy who has practiced for a week, comparing them to Alan Webb is a but strong.
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this wacky/MIR debate is heating up folks
To his defense, he's too busy following little league softball, volleyball, horse racing, nascar, rowing, soccer, equestrian, etc. to have the real facts about every sport. He spreads himself too thin at times. :frown:
You gave about 18 links, none of which said Waters had an offer from UT.
UT told Waters that he has an offer only if commits on the spot. Waters mushed them.
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If the Texas Longhorns end up taking a junior college quarterback in the 2013 class, it won't be Iowa Western CC's Jake Waters, who is set to make a decision on Thursday after hosting the head coaches from his two finalists, Penn State and Kansas State.
Waters told ESPN that the situations in Manhattan and Happy Valley "are probably the best for me ($)." And that isn't necessarily a knock on the state of the Texas program either, more a recognition that the two other schools both have senior quarterbacks who will be moving on after this season, while Texas is crowded at the position and has a sort-of incumbent in David Ash.
The two other quarterbacks left on the radar are Arizona Western's Tanner McEvoy and Garden City CC's Nick Marshall. There has been little buzz about either receiving an offer in the last several days, so the talk in general about taking a JUCO quarterback seems to be dying down at this time.
Could rivals be wrong about Marshall's offer? :Wha:
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The most highly touted JUCO QB OF ALL TIME? Or everyone's last second hail mary? The Nick Marshall saga continues...
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maybe we could mod this into 2 threads. One for 2015 football insider tidbits, another for arguing about players who have exhausted their eligibility
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gratz, XT. i can't wait for the thread where we compare you to daniel sams
Puni...I'm disappointed you didn't mention that comparo until now. Pardon me, but I need to work on my stotting.
No disrespect but i don't think you have the knees for it. Knees are super weird and all.
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maybe we could mod this into 2 threads. One for 2015 football insider tidbits, another for arguing about players who have exhausted their eligibility
Don't bother, I don't know why I got sucked into that stupidity. I'd much rather discuss Alex Delton not being Allen Webb.
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maybe we could mod this into 2 threads. One for 2015 football insider tidbits, another for arguing about players who have exhausted their eligibility
Don't bother, I don't know why I got sucked into that stupidity. I'd much rather discuss Alex Delton not being Allen Webb.
Pfftt. Carry on group.
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are we gonna lose our roady at UTSA?
Probably not, but either way, #family riverwalk photo opps.
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maybe we could mod this into 2 threads. One for 2015 football insider tidbits, another for arguing about players who have exhausted their eligibility
Don't bother, I don't know why I got sucked into that stupidity. I'd much rather discuss Alex Delton not being Allen Webb.
Delton seems more like Roberson than Webb, style wise.
I'd just rather not bring up Webb at all, to be honest. That whole period of quarterbacking at KSU was a really dark time.
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Ah, screw it.
Is Ertz potentially better or worse than Kevin Lopina?
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I leave for a few days and it's like I traveled back in time
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I leave for a few days and it's like I traveled back in time
This web blog has taken a few big steps back lately. We're only a couple iterations away from latching on to that one BCS bowl game we won a generation ago.
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@PurpleHaze congrats on making the Seahawks roster. EMAW!
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I never get PMs
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Dude never gets PMS!
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now thats a first post!
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Why do I keep checking this thread............maybe the Waters vs Sams is subconsciously pulling me in? :dunno:
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Man, how wonderful would EMAW football (#)life be for us now if H3O had chosen to tough it out at PSU or Texas?
If only god wouldn't have rough ridin' meddled in our business
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If I was investigating a possible Iowa QB bias, I'd ask two simple questions: Who is the QB coach? Where is he from?
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maybe we could mod this into 2 threads. One for 2015 football insider tidbits, another for arguing about players who have exhausted their eligibility
Don't bother, I don't know why I got sucked into that stupidity. I'd much rather discuss Alex Delton not being Allen Webb.
Delton seems more like Roberson than Webb, style wise.
I'd just rather not bring up Webb at all, to be honest. That whole period of quarterbacking at KSU was a really dark time.
I have only watched a few of Delton's hs vids and the spring game highlights, is there anything to indicate his arm is in the same universe as Ell's laser rocket arm?
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Ah, screw it.
Is Ertz potentially better or worse than Kevin Lopina?
Well he transferred to WSU when they were really terrible. I'd hope that Ertz is better.
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This thread boils down to Sams would have been better than Waters given the opportunity.
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This thread boils down to Sams would have been better than Waters given the opportunity.
How's this? Sams was given the opportunity.
Jake came in and surpassed Sams (two years of being in the system) by the time of the spring game.
So since that is settled, let's get back to the tidbits.
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This thread boils down to Sams would have been better than Waters given the opportunity.
How's this? Sams was given the opportunity.
Jake came in and surpassed Sams (two years of being in the system) by the time of the spring game.
So since that is settled, let's get back to the tidbits.
I don't believe this at all.
I don't have any insider info but I bet the staff decided early they were going with the 2 QB system from the get-go and gave HTO all of the passing reps every practice and told Sams just to line up and run the damn ball. Anyone that is happy how things turned out hates KSU Football.
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This thread boils down to Sams would have been better than Waters given the opportunity.
How's this? Sams was given the opportunity.
Jake came in and surpassed Sams (two years of being in the system) by the time of the spring game.
So since that is settled, let's get back to the tidbits.
I don't believe this at all.
I don't have any insider info but I bet the staff decided early they were going with the 2 QB system from the get-go and gave HTO all of the passing reps every practice and told Sams just to line up and run the damn ball. Anyone that is happy how things turned out hates KSU Football.
I'm pretty happy that we won nine games last year and were ranked in the top 10 for the final month of the season. Is it the best season ever, no. But there is absolutely nothing that you could objectively identify and say that Daniel Sams would have been a better option at the QB position than Jake Waters.
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guys i hear of defense could be ok this year :surprised:
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That's all I'm going to say about Waters v. Sams for the rest of this thread. Don't want to get in the way of anymore tidbits than I already have.
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guys i hear of defense could be ok this year :surprised:
I think it'll be about the same as last year. Maybe just a touch better.
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the heard the same thing :horrorsurprise:
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The problem with Sams was that he was a serial child molester. Now, please, let's just get back to the tidbits!
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If Sams was from Iowa he would have been a four year starter.
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I'm pretty happy that we won nine games last year and were ranked in the top 10 for the final month of the season.
I had to think about whether you were just talking or if this really happened.
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I'm pretty happy that we won nine games last year and were ranked in the top 10 for the final month of the season.
I had to think about whether you were just talking or if this really happened.
Poor choice of words on my part. Should have said ranked in the the top during the final month of the season. But, yeah.
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I'm pretty happy that we won nine games last year and were ranked in the top 10 for the final month of the season.
I had to think about whether you were just talking or if this really happened.
Poor choice of words on my part. Should have said ranked in the the top during the final month of the season. But, yeah.
No, I knew what you meant as far as those numbers and stuff. It just doesn't match what our relevancy was in college football last year.
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Carson Coffman had more tangibles than Jake Waters now imagine Jesse Ertz leading the cats. No tangibles at all.
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Carson Coffman had more tangibles than Jake Waters now imagine Jesse Ertz leading the cats. No tangibles at all.
JFC. The blind leading the blind in here.
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Carson Coffman had more tangibles than Jake Waters now imagine Jesse Ertz leading the cats. No tangibles at all.
JFC. The blind leading the blind in here.
Probably true.
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guys i hear of defense could be ok this year :surprised:
Maybe they just look good due to going up against our terrible offense? :sdeek:
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Carson Coffman had more tangibles than Jake Waters now imagine Jesse Ertz leading the cats. No tangibles at all.
JFC. The blind leading the blind in here.
Probably true.
Can someone give me the date when the Waters hate went from actual to troll? TIA
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are we gonna lose our roady at UTSA?
First win in a dome!! :ksu:
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are we gonna lose our roady at UTSA?
First win in a dome!! :ksu:
We won at Minnesota back in the 90s.
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Ertz is the best athlete of the 4 and has broken multiple QB position tests. Source - local troglodyte and magazine publisher of wildcat related news
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GUYS
https://twitter.com/kstatecollegian/status/634381363634962433
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100 virtual EMAW bucks to whoever can correctly ID that game film!
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100 virtual EMAW bucks to whoever can correctly ID that game film!
'14 KU?
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that boombox :lol:
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Ertz is the best athlete of the 4 and has broken multiple QB position tests. Source - local troglodyte and magazine publisher of wildcat related news
what kind of tests? the bench pressing kind?
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grumblings that Winston Dimel is showing out and will split snaps with the Gronk.
apparently singled out in front of the team for his play/effort this fall camp
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Ertz is the best athlete of the 4 and has broken multiple QB position tests. Source - local troglodyte and magazine publisher of wildcat related news
what kind of tests? the bench pressing kind?
you won't believe this, dickstone, but he wouldn't say
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that boombox :lol:
this was NOT in the desk analysis we had a while back.
LOL that it's on top of playbooks (I'm assuming)
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Ertz is the best athlete of the 4 and has broken multiple QB position tests. Source - local troglodyte and magazine publisher of wildcat related news
Their new guy's voice is strange.
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Sources tell me Kody Cook is in the running for 3rd string qb.
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Sources tell me Kody Cook is in the running for 3rd string qb.
our coaching staff having Cook run the wrong route as the 3rd or 4th WR instead of Sams last season still defies explanation
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Ertz is the best athlete of the 4 and has broken multiple QB position tests. Source - local troglodyte and magazine publisher of wildcat related news
Their new guy's voice is strange.
Agreed. Is that Hammond? Not what I expected based on his Twitter game.
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Ertz is the best athlete of the 4 and has broken multiple QB position tests. Source - local troglodyte and magazine publisher of wildcat related news
Their new guy's voice is strange.
Agreed. Is that Hammond? Not what I expected based on his Twitter game.
Yeah. I mean, sure, I broke my toe after he launched his assault on gE, but it's back to at least 85%.
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that boombox :lol:
this was NOT in the desk analysis we had a while back.
LOL that it's on top of playbooks (I'm assuming)
I bet that's how he tests his pregame music tracks, tuning in on the best way to get his 5 hearts up and ready to go for that game. Also on KU gameweek it plays "I'm a Jayhawk" on loop 24/7
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100 virtual EMAW bucks to whoever can correctly ID that game film!
'14 KU?
It's Texas. First of all you can see Nulogo, secondly the other team is wearing all white, UT has all white road uniforms and you can also detect a bit of orange.
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Ertz is the best athlete of the 4 and has broken multiple QB position tests. Source - local troglodyte and magazine publisher of wildcat related news
This is his third preseason, if he's some kind of freak athlete why are we just hearing about it?
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Ertz is the best athlete of the 4 and has broken multiple QB position tests. Source - local troglodyte and magazine publisher of wildcat related news
This is his third preseason, if he's some kind of freak athlete why are we just hearing about it?
Schemed!
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100 virtual EMAW bucks to whoever can correctly ID that game film!
'14 KU?
It's Texas. First of all you can see Nulogo, secondly the other team is wearing all white, UT has all white road uniforms and you can also detect a bit of orange.
ku wore all white last year. i considered texas but remember that game being in the bright ass daylight and that game up there looks a little darker, like cloudy or evening to me. i could be wrong.
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100 virtual EMAW bucks to whoever can correctly ID that game film!
'14 KU?
It's Texas. First of all you can see Nulogo, secondly the other team is wearing all white, UT has all white road uniforms and you can also detect a bit of orange.
ku wore all white last year. i considered texas but remember that game being in the bright ass daylight and that game up there looks a little darker, like cloudy or evening to me. i could be wrong.
I may be seeing things but the players on the top of the screen seem to be wearing orange socks
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yeah there may be some orange there, though texas doesn't really wear orange socks: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF2Ls1ciMAA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF2Ls1ciMAA)
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Ertz is the best athlete of the 4 and has broken multiple QB position tests. Source - local troglodyte and magazine publisher of wildcat related news
This is his third preseason, if he's some kind of freak athlete why are we just hearing about it?
Indeed, MIR. I also don't imagine being the best athlete in the eyes of Tim Fitzgerald would preclude one from still being a less than cromulent Big 12 quarterback.
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yeah there may be some orange there, though texas doesn't really wear orange socks: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF2Ls1ciMAA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eF2Ls1ciMAA)
my first guess was baylor, but that would have been 2 seasons ago.
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Spring Game white vs Purple.
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You guys know virtual emaw bucks aren't real, right?
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YOU DONT KNOW THAT!
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You guys know virtual emaw bucks aren't real, right?
well you just mumped up
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You guys know virtual emaw bucks aren't real, right?
well you just mumped up
:lol: <-- me right now in a non dickface way
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I'm not reading 18 pages of this thread so someone summarize in a short paragraph for me. TIA.
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I'm not reading 18 pages of this thread so someone summarize in a short paragraph for me. TIA.
Sams was the greatest QB in KState history, defense might be serviceable.
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I'm not reading 18 pages of this thread so someone summarize in a short paragraph for me. TIA.
We don't know anything
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Glad I didn't waste my precious time!
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This has been the least exciting off-season ever. Probably going to be a really shitty season
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Well waters flowed through the webbs of time only to find itself drying instead into the sams of time.
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All of these tidbits are overwhelming!
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I'm not reading 18 pages of this thread so someone summarize in a short paragraph for me. TIA.
waters is white and from Iowa, sams was the greatest oat, Nick Marshall was the greatest qb juco recruit oat, minus little offers, white QB's suck, k-State QB's keep getting recruited over, apparently Ertz is the guy, but he looked shitty in 30 minutes of play at the spring game, where everyone here was drunk, and get this... This coaching staff knows nothing about player personale. Lots of hot takes by accountants, engineers, and lawyers in here. Go cats! #hottakes
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most of that recap is correct, except for the accountants part
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most of that recap is correct, except for the accountants part
Yeah, not sure where that came from. I'm feeling a bit saucy tonight. Maybe substitute teachers? :dunno:
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I bet it's practice.
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All of these tidbits are overwhelming!
I had to create a flowchart to keep track of everything. Just to confirm, "accountants" are not listed anywhere on said flowchart.
Gonna win 'em all!
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This has been the least exciting off-season ever. Probably going to be a really shitty season
Remember when Klein was a Junior... that off season was almost identical.
:buh-bye:
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I'm not reading 18 pages of this thread so someone summarize in a short paragraph for me. TIA.
waters is white and from Iowa, sams was the greatest oat, Nick Marshall was the greatest qb juco recruit oat, minus little offers, white QB's suck, k-State QB's keep getting recruited over, apparently Ertz is the guy, but he looked shitty in 30 minutes of play at the spring game, where everyone here was drunk, and get this... This coaching staff knows nothing about player personale. Lots of hot takes by accountants, engineers, and lawyers in here. Go cats! #hottakes
Thank GAWD we have "HSO's" (hot sports opinions) in Dallas... "hottakes" are just so white/midwesterny. Plus, most of yours suck and wouldn't even qualify as HSO's anyway.
:facepalm:
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I'm not reading 18 pages of this thread so someone summarize in a short paragraph for me. TIA.
waters is white and from Iowa, sams was the greatest oat, Nick Marshall was the greatest qb juco recruit oat, minus little offers, white QB's suck, k-State QB's keep getting recruited over, apparently Ertz is the guy, but he looked shitty in 30 minutes of play at the spring game, where everyone here was drunk, and get this... This coaching staff knows nothing about player personale. Lots of hot takes by accountants, engineers, and lawyers in here. Go cats! #hottakes
Thank GAWD we have "HSO's" (hot sports opinions) in Dallas... "hottakes" are just so white/midwesterny. Plus, most of yours suck and wouldn't even qualify as HSO's anyway.
:facepalm:
Your face sucks, bookie! :shakesfist:
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This has been the least exciting off-season ever. Probably going to be a really shitty season
Remember when Klein was a Junior... that off season was almost identical.
:buh-bye:
I don't know my dick was out the whole summer for the Brown bros.
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I'm not reading 18 pages of this thread so someone summarize in a short paragraph for me. TIA.
Sams was the greatest QB in KState history, defense might be serviceable.
Hur, hur, hur... Nice summary! :cheers:
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Qb order: Ertz, Delton, Banks, Hubener. Whether this will be reflected in depth chart is another story. If Delton doesn't win the job this year he will next year with more playbook knowledge. Real deal, very strong arm, athletic. Has all the tools, just needs more playbook. Ertz looks completely different than he did at the spring game. In a good way.
Oline. Whitehair = beast. Rest of oline looks unathletic.
Rb's. Silmon = best of the 3. Surprised if he isn't #1. Strong, elusive, hard to bring down. Fell through the cracks in recruiting. All 3 will play. Running backs aren't as big of concern as you might think. Can the oline block for them is the bigger concern.
WR. Have plenty of possession receivers. Looking for a game breaker. Burton has the tools but can he put it all together?
Defense. Lumped together because it should be solid barring injuries. Could be best Snyder 2.0 defense.
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Nice scoops
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more of this like everyday please :drool: :thumbs:
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Only one more Saturday before kickoff.
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I really hope Ertz is a stud and kicks the ever living crap out of South Dakota, guys. Like 600 yards rushing and 8 touchdowns.
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Qb order: Ertz, Delton, Banks, Hubener. Whether this will be reflected in depth chart is another story. If Delton doesn't win the job this year he will next year with more playbook knowledge. Real deal, very strong arm, athletic. Has all the tools, just needs more playbook. Ertz looks completely different than he did at the spring game. In a good way.
Oline. Whitehair = beast. Rest of oline looks unathletic.
Rb's. Silmon = best of the 3. Surprised if he isn't #1. Strong, elusive, hard to bring down. Fell through the cracks in recruiting. All 3 will play. Running backs aren't as big of concern as you might think. Can the oline block for them is the bigger concern.
WR. Have plenty of possession receivers. Looking for a game breaker. Burton has the tools but can he put it all together?
Defense. Lumped together because it should be solid barring injuries. Could be best Snyder 2.0 defense.
Will Geary thinks dalton risner is a huge stud so.
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Qb order: Ertz, Delton, Banks, Hubener. Whether this will be reflected in depth chart is another story. If Delton doesn't win the job this year he will next year with more playbook knowledge. Real deal, very strong arm, athletic. Has all the tools, just needs more playbook. Ertz looks completely different than he did at the spring game. In a good way.
Oline. Whitehair = beast. Rest of oline looks unathletic.
Rb's. Silmon = best of the 3. Surprised if he isn't #1. Strong, elusive, hard to bring down. Fell through the cracks in recruiting. All 3 will play. Running backs aren't as big of concern as you might think. Can the oline block for them is the bigger concern.
WR. Have plenty of possession receivers. Looking for a game breaker. Burton has the tools but can he put it all together?
Defense. Lumped together because it should be solid barring injuries. Could be best Snyder 2.0 defense.
Will Geary thinks dalton risner is a huge stud so.
Dalton is an athlete for sure, Luke Hayes should also really take a step forward. Burton is fast, just needs to step forward in playing fast.
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Qb order: Ertz, Delton, Banks, Hubener. Whether this will be reflected in depth chart is another story. If Delton doesn't win the job this year he will next year with more playbook knowledge. Real deal, very strong arm, athletic. Has all the tools, just needs more playbook. Ertz looks completely different than he did at the spring game. In a good way.
Oline. Whitehair = beast. Rest of oline looks unathletic.
Rb's. Silmon = best of the 3. Surprised if he isn't #1. Strong, elusive, hard to bring down. Fell through the cracks in recruiting. All 3 will play. Running backs aren't as big of concern as you might think. Can the oline block for them is the bigger concern.
WR. Have plenty of possession receivers. Looking for a game breaker. Burton has the tools but can he put it all together?
Defense. Lumped together because it should be solid barring injuries. Could be best Snyder 2.0 defense.
Why are you providing tidbits in the Waters vs Sams thread part duex??? Get lost!
J/K.....dont know if these are actual tidbits, but we can at least pretend
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Qb order: Ertz, Delton, Banks, Hubener. Whether this will be reflected in depth chart is another story. If Delton doesn't win the job this year he will next year with more playbook knowledge. Real deal, very strong arm, athletic. Has all the tools, just needs more playbook. Ertz looks completely different than he did at the spring game. In a good way.
Oline. Whitehair = beast. Rest of oline looks unathletic.
Rb's. Silmon = best of the 3. Surprised if he isn't #1. Strong, elusive, hard to bring down. Fell through the cracks in recruiting. All 3 will play. Running backs aren't as big of concern as you might think. Can the oline block for them is the bigger concern.
WR. Have plenty of possession receivers. Looking for a game breaker. Burton has the tools but can he put it all together?
Defense. Lumped together because it should be solid barring injuries. Could be best Snyder 2.0 defense.
All these morsels! :drool:
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PIPE :curse:
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Pipe, shut the eff up. Thanks.
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I should clarify. Whitehair is an NFL caliber OL and he looks the part. Anyone that follows the team knows that. The rest have talent and athleticism, but they don't look the part. More weight room less mess hall kinda thing. Purely an observation. Maybe comparing them to Cody is unfair. With that said, run blocking struggled mightily last year. Bulk doesn't necessarily = power.
Everything else: A+ source.
Also on the QBs, Don't be surprised to see Delton redshirt. If they feel comfortable enough with Ertz, they likely won't burn a year of eligibility with him.
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:thumbs: Good stuff.
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keep them coming :excited:
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Qb order: Ertz, Delton, Banks, Hubener. Whether this will be reflected in depth chart is another story. If Delton doesn't win the job this year he will next year with more playbook knowledge. Real deal, very strong arm, athletic. Has all the tools, just needs more playbook. Ertz looks completely different than he did at the spring game. In a good way.
Oline. Whitehair = beast. Rest of oline looks unathletic.
Rb's. Silmon = best of the 3. Surprised if he isn't #1. Strong, elusive, hard to bring down. Fell through the cracks in recruiting. All 3 will play. Running backs aren't as big of concern as you might think. Can the oline block for them is the bigger concern.
WR. Have plenty of possession receivers. Looking for a game breaker. Burton has the tools but can he put it all together?
Defense. Lumped together because it should be solid barring injuries. Could be best Snyder 2.0 defense.
Will Geary thinks dalton risner is a huge stud so.
Dalton is an athlete for sure, Luke Hayes should also really take a step forward. Burton is fast, just needs to step forward in playing fast.
Burton also needs to learn how to catch the football.
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Tasty bits of tid halfEmpty :lick:
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If Delton is the 2nd best qb like you say, there's no way you can redshirt him.
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The only true freshman to play for Snyder was Beasley. He was later redshirted as a junior so he'd have two years left after Bishop graduated.
I'm not sure if Snyder or Delton would want to go through something similar, but it's worth taking into consideration.
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If Delton is the 2nd best qb like you say, there's no way you can redshirt him.
You can redshirt him as long as Ertz stays healthy. Bring Banks or Hubener in for mop up time if the game is a runaway.
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We're going to suck this year.
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Qb order: Ertz, Delton, Banks, Hubener. Whether this will be reflected in depth chart is another story. If Delton doesn't win the job this year he will next year with more playbook knowledge. Real deal, very strong arm, athletic. Has all the tools, just needs more playbook. Ertz looks completely different than he did at the spring game. In a good way.
Oline. Whitehair = beast. Rest of oline looks unathletic.
Rb's. Silmon = best of the 3. Surprised if he isn't #1. Strong, elusive, hard to bring down. Fell through the cracks in recruiting. All 3 will play. Running backs aren't as big of concern as you might think. Can the oline block for them is the bigger concern.
WR. Have plenty of possession receivers. Looking for a game breaker. Burton has the tools but can he put it all together?
Defense. Lumped together because it should be solid barring injuries. Could be best Snyder 2.0 defense.
Will Geary thinks dalton risner is a huge stud so.
Dalton is an athlete for sure, Luke Hayes should also really take a step forward. Burton is fast, just needs to step forward in playing fast.
Burton also needs to learn how to catch the football.
I'm not sure that is possible.
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We're going to suck this year.
A+ source btw.
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ok pipe
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halfEmpty are we looking at a qb rotation or as it stands is Ertz the guy by himself?
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We're going to suck this year.
A+ source btw.
We'll scrape together eight wins. Source: A++
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halfEmpty are we looking at a qb rotation or as it stands is Ertz the guy by himself?
If you want that kind of detail I suggest you kidnap Bill and force him to tell you. Same goes for a definitive depth chart. My guess is you'll know the starters and redshirts in about a week and a half when the official depth chart is released for the first game.
I have no other info. Pure speculation, but if Delton is on the 2-deep, more than likely he will be playing significant snaps. No way they burn a rs for him to just play mop-up time.
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We're going to suck this year.
A+ source btw.
We'll scrape together eight wins. Source: A++
Agree with that, and a bowl win :pray:
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I don't know if I can make it through another year of a shitty FP QB. No BL around this year to bail out the garbage. Maybe somebody gets a neck hernia the 1st game and is done for the year
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I don't know if I can make it through another year of a shitty FP QB. No BL around this year to bail out the garbage. Maybe somebody gets a neck hernia the 1st game and is done for the year
Shut the eff up!!!
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If Delton is the 2nd best qb like you say, there's no way you can redshirt him.
You can redshirt him as long as Ertz stays healthy. Bring Banks or Hubener in for mop up time if the game is a runaway.
You can redshirt him regardless of circumstance, it's not like they can't be reversed. OSU pulled Mason Rudolph's redshirt on game 11 last season now the media is blowing OSU and Gundy because they have a quarterback.
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If Delton is the 2nd best qb like you say, there's no way you can redshirt him.
You can redshirt him as long as Ertz stays healthy. Bring Banks or Hubener in for mop up time if the game is a runaway.
You can redshirt him regardless of circumstance, it's not like they can't be reversed. OSU pulled Mason Rudolph's redshirt on game 11 last season now the media is blowing OSU and Gundy because they have a quarterback.
OSU blow job is the weirdest thing.
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I don't know if I can make it through another year of a shitty FP QB. No BL around this year to bail out the garbage. Maybe somebody gets a neck hernia the 1st game and is done for the year
:facepalm:
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halfEmpty are we looking at a qb rotation or as it stands is Ertz the guy by himself?
If you want that kind of detail I suggest you kidnap Bill and force him to tell you. Same goes for a definitive depth chart. My guess is you'll know the starters and redshirts in about a week and a half when the official depth chart is released for the first game.
I have no other info. Pure speculation, but if Delton is on the 2-deep, more than likely he will be playing significant snaps. No way they burn a rs for him to just play mop-up time.
Even if subjected to the worst forms of torture, HOFHC LHC Bill Snyder would never give up the information.
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OSU blow job is the weirdest thing.
quoting only because it bears repeating. is osu just everyone's loveable loser? little brother trying hard to keep up with the big kids?
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I just looked at our schedule. I don't like the fact that we're gonna lose 5 in a row in the middle of the season :(
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I just looked at our schedule. I don't like the fact that we're gonna lose 5 in a row in the middle of the season :(
In a vacuum, I think we could win at Tech but maybe not after those 5 and the season off the rails.
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yeah. thinking 6, maaaaaaybe 7 wins. but def losing 5 in a row.
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LHC Bill Snyder has made a HOF career on 5 game losing streaks, why stop now
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yeah. thinking 6, maaaaaaybe 7 wins. but def losing 5 in a row.
I think we win 1 or 2 of the three: UT, OU, OSU. I wouldn't mind beating Oklahoma outside of Norman for once, and if we can scheme a way to keep Perine out of it. . .we could pull it off.
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You also have to like that we get TCU, Baylor, and OU at home. Those games might be a tad more watchable if you consider the atmosphere of BSFS and the fact that those teams' locker room is in the janitor's closet.
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You also have to like that we get TCU, Baylor, and OU at home. Those games might be a tad more watchable if you consider the atmosphere of BSFS and the fact that those teams' locker room is in the janitor's closet.
Baylor and TCU high tempo offenses travel like crap. From the sounds of it OU is going the same direction. They are all winnable games. Taking one shouldn't be a surprise. The OSU games lines up nice for us, we should win that game coming off a bye. Their true sophomore QB (6td to 4ints) non mobile should really struggle against our defense. The Texas game scares the crap out of me, we will be really beat up by then. But their offense should still suck and it can become a defensive slugfest of a game, similar to 2012. Coming out of that stretch with 3 or 2 wins is very possible. Then we just coast to a meh season for us.
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I think we pick up either @UT or OU at home.
OU is kind of in that slow death slide until Stoops leaves and they get some new life in there. I don't think they do better than 8-4/9-3. And I think the difference between eight and nine wins is a pretty tough roadie at our place.
TCU is going to just stomp us. I think the Baylor game will be competitive, but they just have our number. Like Tech under Leach.
We will beat WVU at home.
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I just looked at our schedule. I don't like the fact that we're gonna lose 5 in a row in the middle of the season :(
No chance.
Did you watch OSU play last year, like at all? They were a one man team and he's gone. I absolutely don't understand how people in one breath condemn ISU to 9th place then call OSU a sleeper. ISU is better at almost every position, including QB.
We also beat UT 23-0 last year. I haven't seen anything to make me just assume that Texas will become some offensive juggernaut.
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I just looked at our schedule. I don't like the fact that we're gonna lose 5 in a row in the middle of the season :(
No chance.
Did you watch OSU play last year, like at all? They were a one man team and he's gone. I absolutely don't understand how people in one breath condemn ISU to 9th place then call OSU a sleeper. ISU is better at almost every position, including QB.
We also beat UT 23-0 last year. I haven't seen anything to make me just assume that Texas will become some offensive juggernaut.
That is one bold claim, sir.
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OSU was crap last year, but everybody is giving them a pass. Without their speed merchant they would of been in real trouble. Gundy is falling on his face for rebuilding his staff with a bunch of young recruiters that haven't lived up expectation.
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OSU should be better this year. Gundy got rid of a few of those guys that were just recruiters and replaced them with some pretty good coaches. The injury to JW Walsh hurt them in a really bad way last year, and was a big reason why they were really bad for that stretch in October/November. The Rudolph kid is getting better and will be a pretty good quarterback for them although there are a lot of expectations for a kid that hasn't taken a snap in BPS yet.
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I just looked at our schedule. I don't like the fact that we're gonna lose 5 in a row in the middle of the season :(
No chance.
Did you watch OSU play last year, like at all? They were a one man team and he's gone. I absolutely don't understand how people in one breath condemn ISU to 9th place then call OSU a sleeper. ISU is better at almost every position, including QB.
We also beat UT 23-0 last year. I haven't seen anything to make me just assume that Texas will become some offensive juggernaut.
This is what I do every single year. I talk myself into thinking we're crap, then become pleasantly surprised when we win 8+ games. It's pretty great.
My absolute favorite is when we win the unexpected road game we always win. Our road sched is pretty pud so I'll take a home win instead.
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I just looked at our schedule. I don't like the fact that we're gonna lose 5 in a row in the middle of the season :(
No chance.
Did you watch OSU play last year, like at all? They were a one man team and he's gone. I absolutely don't understand how people in one breath condemn ISU to 9th place then call OSU a sleeper. ISU is better at almost every position, including QB.
We also beat UT 23-0 last year. I haven't seen anything to make me just assume that Texas will become some offensive juggernaut.
This is what I do every single year. I talk myself into thinking we're crap, then become pleasantly surprised when we win 8+ games. It's pretty great.
My absolute favorite is when we win the unexpected road game we always win. Our road sched is pretty pud so I'll take a home win instead.
So you get your rocks off by commending the team to a losing season? Maybe you are brainwashed by media "know it all's" that predict KSU to be in the bottom have of the conference each preseason.
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you watch your god damn mouth katdaddy
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you watch your god damn mouth katdaddy
Oh crap!!! I thought you said wash. :surprised:
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You also have to like that we get TCU, Baylor, and OU at home. Those games might be a tad more watchable if you consider the atmosphere of BSFS and the fact that those teams' locker room is in the janitor's closet.
The Texas game scares the crap out of me, we will be really beat up by then. But their offense should still suck and it can become a defensive slugfest of a game, similar to 2012.
I really hope you mean 2011.
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I just looked at our schedule. I don't like the fact that we're gonna lose 5 in a row in the middle of the season :(
No chance.
Did you watch OSU play last year, like at all? They were a one man team and he's gone. I absolutely don't understand how people in one breath condemn ISU to 9th place then call OSU a sleeper. ISU is better at almost every position, including QB.
We also beat UT 23-0 last year. I haven't seen anything to make me just assume that Texas will become some offensive juggernaut.
That is one bold claim, sir.
It's true. ISU had a better offense than OSU last year and they return everyone. OSU is much better defensively though.
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You also have to like that we get TCU, Baylor, and OU at home. Those games might be a tad more watchable if you consider the atmosphere of BSFS and the fact that those teams' locker room is in the janitor's closet.
The Texas game scares the crap out of me, we will be really beat up by then. But their offense should still suck and it can become a defensive slugfest of a game, similar to 2012.
I really hope you mean 2011.
Yes.
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100 virtual EMAW bucks to whoever can correctly ID that game film!
Was it the Auburn game? That was a night game. They wore white tops and pants, and the pants had an orange stripe on the sides.
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Ooh did Auburn wear all white? If so that's who it is with the orange socks. Good call.
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also, chingon factor
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It's looks like practice to me. Orange cones on the field and a few players in yellow pinnies :dunno:
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More extreme insider bits of tid. Less whatever you guys are talking about.
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It's looks like practice to me. Orange cones on the field and a few players in yellow pinnies :dunno:
You might be on to something
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I would rather have Hubes than Ertz.
Yeah, because we've seen so much of either of them.
He can run a ck skettibrain offense. Ertz won't last one big12 game.
I mean one game period.
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I would rather have Hubes than Ertz.
Yeah, because we've seen so much of either of them.
He can run a ck skettibrain offense. Ertz won't last one big12 game.
I mean one game period.
:sdeek:
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Are you sure you didn't mean drive? :frown:
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Are you sure you didn't mean drive? :frown:
No, he meant first play. :facepalm: Jesse "ACL" hertz
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Where is the tidbit on D Mac not playing
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yeah. thinking 6, maaaaaaybe 7 wins. but def losing 5 in a row.
I think we win 1 or 2 of the three: UT, OU, OSU. I wouldn't mind beating Oklahoma outside of Norman for once, and if we can scheme a way to keep Perine out of it. . .we could pull it off.
So far, Stoops and Co. have schemed Perine out of it. Let's hope they haven't saved up all their Perine for Saturday.
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Zach Reuter scores a touchdown this week.
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Zach Reuter scores a touchdown this week.
This is some next level crap right here
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Zach Reuter scores a touchdown this week.
Who?
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Zach Reuter scores a touchdown this week.
Who?
The guy who became the focus of our second half passing attack against tcu
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Zach Reuter scores a touchdown this week.
Who?
A little info about him
http://www.columbiatribune.com/sports/prep_sports/despite-production-attributes-reuter-not-receiving-d-i-attention/article_14ece62a-4d5c-11e3-8935-10604b9f6eda.html (http://www.columbiatribune.com/sports/prep_sports/despite-production-attributes-reuter-not-receiving-d-i-attention/article_14ece62a-4d5c-11e3-8935-10604b9f6eda.html)
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I wonder how many folks on K-State's roster had similar articles about them.
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Zach Reuter scores a touchdown this week.
Who?
The guy who became the focus of our second half passing attack against tcu
To be more specific, the guy who fell down while breaking for his route and allowed the pick six
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Zach Reuter scores a touchdown this week.
In a football game?
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Zach Reuter scores a touchdown this week.
Who?
The guy who became the focus of our second half passing attack woes against tcu
fixed it
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Zach Reuter scores a touchdown this week.
Who?
The guy who became the focus of our second half passing attack against tcu
To be more specific, the guy who fell down while breaking for his route and allowed the pick six
If I remember correctly he was knocked down.
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Any extreme tidbits on scout team heroes?
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Any extreme tidbits on scout team heroes?
Yes
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Any extreme tidbits on scout team heroes?
Yes
Well give it up disGewinne!
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We arent very good.
Source A++
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Step 1) Go to the team roster
Step 2) Look up any rural Kansas walkons you've never heard of
Step 3) Insert their name into the following statement: _______ has worked hard on the scout team and established himself as a youngster who could play an important role in the future.
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hello?
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https://twitter.com/kstatesports/status/715332175671873536
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That's very sexy
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well hello, Mr. Excitement for Football, didn't expect to encounter you today!
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I liked watching Delton make tight spirals! :love:
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I liked watching Delton make tight spirals! :love:
except it doesn't matter b/c some 4 heart walk on from hayseed, ks will get the starting nod at every position
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I liked watching Delton make tight spirals! :love:
except it doesn't matter b/c some 4 heart walk on from hayseed, ks will get the starting nod at every position
You can't spell Hayseed without Hays! Which is where Delton is from! Yay he's going to start! :Woohoo:
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I liked watching Delton make tight spirals! :love:
except it doesn't matter b/c some 4 heart walk on from hayseed, ks will get the starting nod at every position
You can't spell Hayseed without Hays! Which is where Delton is from! Yay he's going to start! :Woohoo:
:D
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Warmack got stripped, so he's not playing this year.
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hello?
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Faz616578.vo.msecnd.net%2Ffiles%2F2016%2F03%2F01%2F635924512092721222386866450_adel.jpg&hash=e4c27d4d4e2e4113aa2ae09041d8271c2c58b202)
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What happened to the video?
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tweet was taken down. it's still on facebook, though.
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guys, i am back in seattle now, and can no longer ask the used-to-be-a-wildcat-olineman-meat-counter-man at hy-vee, or, dishonored former willie the wildcats for inside info. hence, i need your help. plz post in this thread, pm, or even text me if you have juicy nuggets bc it's a rough life up here in the pnw where my only source of info is trim and you guys know trim
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guys, i am back in seattle now, and can no longer ask the used-to-be-a-wildcat-olineman-meat-counter-man at hy-vee, or, dishonored former willie the wildcats for inside info. hence, i need your help. plz post in this thread, pm, or even text me if you have juicy nuggets bc it's a rough life up here in the pnw where my only source of info is trim and you guys know trim
You could be in NC...
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guys, i am back in seattle now, and can no longer ask the used-to-be-a-wildcat-olineman-meat-counter-man at hy-vee, or, dishonored former willie the wildcats for inside info. hence, i need your help. plz post in this thread, pm, or even text me if you have juicy nuggets bc it's a rough life up here in the pnw where my only source of info is trim and you guys know trim
I saw a cool Lockett t-shirt at one of those tourist shops by the market. It says "ROCKETT LOCKETT" or something and has his # merged with the original Sonics logo.
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What was on this video?
Nude photos of the snyder family.
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:lol:
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guys, i am back in seattle now, and can no longer ask the used-to-be-a-wildcat-olineman-meat-counter-man at hy-vee, or, dishonored former willie the wildcats for inside info. hence, i need your help. plz post in this thread, pm, or even text me if you have juicy nuggets bc it's a rough life up here in the pnw where my only source of info is trim and you guys know trim
I'm not in Seattle, but still desperately needing some tidbits. Anybody got anything?
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What was on this video?
Nude photos of the snyder family.
Found it for you
(https://theinfosphere.org/images/thumb/b/bf/June2007calendar.JPG/180px-June2007calendar.JPG)
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https://twitter.com/Kruse_in_SD/status/715563424898371584
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Snyder is going to find that guy who took that pic and pore acid in his eye balls.
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if you're looking for the video, I guess you could always just go straight to the source of it...
http://www.kstatesports.com/sport/m-footbl
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https://twitter.com/Kruse_in_SD/status/715563424898371584
he's going to earn a "k-state guy" sticker from currie if he keeps that up
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I see Ertz is wearing a target on his knee for opposing defenders to lick their chops at.
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I see Ertz is wearing a target on his knee for opposing defenders to lick their chops at.
My thoughts exactly.
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Warmack got stripped, so he's not playing this year.
I assume you're talking about the LB drill where Lee strips Sullivan...
:facepalm:
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I see Ertz is wearing a target on his knee for opposing defenders to lick their chops at.
this is wacky's best post, imo. and who am i. but still, a v. fine post, wacky.
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I see Ertz is wearing a target on his knee for opposing defenders to lick their chops at.
this is wacky's best post, imo. and who am i. but still, a v. fine post, wacky.
More wizardry from Snyder. Put a huge target on the knee and Ds won't effect the head anymore. Boom, less sketti brains.
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if you're looking for the video, I guess you could always just go straight to the source of it...
http://www.kstatesports.com/sport/m-footbl
Not pictured: bazooka Joe (unless he switched numbers)
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Ertz is going to show all the haters out there that this really was going to be a 6 win team last year if he had been healthy. Mark it down.
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the new roster is up. we got two JuCo walk-on DEs (good for depth), colby moore switched from S to WR, and we now have the robert rose of kickers.
departures we knew about (Banks, K. Heath, Little, English, Patterson, Prewett, Davidson) and one we didn't (Applegate).
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surprised that applegate is leaving
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surprised that applegate is leaving
YOU AND ME BOTH!
Though, I am mostly just surprised because I didn't know he existed.
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if you're looking for the video, I guess you could always just go straight to the source of it...
http://www.kstatesports.com/sport/m-footbl
Not pictured: bazooka Joe (unless he switched numbers)
They want to sell tickets.
Kind of joking, kind of not.
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I see Ertz is wearing a target on his knee for opposing defenders to lick their chops at.
this is wacky's best post, imo. and who am i. but still, a v. fine post, wacky.
:thumbs:
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surprised that applegate is leaving
Well, wtf.... Wasn't he one of our better O-Line recruits? From Lawrence though, right?
Presumably squawk
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surprised that applegate is leaving
Well, wtf.... Wasn't he one of our better O-Line recruits? From Lawrence though, right?
Presumably squawk
No he wasn't . Scott Frantz is from Lawrence and is projected to be a starter come fall.
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Mill Valley. He had a lot of nice offers too.
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surprised that applegate is leaving
Well, wtf.... Wasn't he one of our better O-Line recruits? From Lawrence though, right?
Presumably squawk
No he wasn't . Scott Frantz is from Lawrence and is projected to be a starter come fall.
Ah, thanks!
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Pringle can throw the ball 80 yards. It was a joy watching today
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Applegate is trying to talk Frantz into leaving with him. At first, everyone scoffed at the idea, but the inside chatter about the situation has never died down. If anything, it's increased.
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I am starting to not like this kid Applegate, whom I had never heard of before today.
Gonna win 'em all! (using Tapatalk)
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Pringle can throw the ball 80 yards. It was a joy watching today
So once again, our best QB is also our best WR. Quite the pickle.
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Pringle can throw the ball 80 yards. It was a joy watching today
So once again, our best QB is also our best WR. Quite the pickle.
Can't beat our Hubes, it sounds like.
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:facepalm:
Pringle can throw the ball 80 yards. It was a joy watching today
So once again, our best QB is also our best WR. Quite the Pringle!.
FYP :cool:
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Pringle can throw the ball 80 yards. It was a joy watching today
So once again, our best QB is also our best WR. Quite the pickle.
dude, trey, we may just actually be the same person, bc i was abt to type the same damn thing.
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Applegate is trying to talk Frantz into leaving with him. At first, everyone scoffed at the idea, but the inside chatter about the situation has never died down. If anything, it's increased.
wtf, man. rooting for sports at this school right now is becoming obscenely challenging.
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http://espn.go.com/blog/big12/post/_/id/111152/top-10-player-spring-update-kansas-state-wildcats
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if Deante Burton is a top 10 player on this team, then 4-8 here we come
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if Deante Burton is a top 10 player on this team, then 4-8 here we come
Or Charles Jones.
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if Deante Burton is a top 10 player on this team, then 4-8 here we come
my hope springs eternal with deante. but if pringle or zuber or anyone with a damn clue were to emerge and surpass him, it would be a good thing, i feel, for our ballclub.
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http://espn.go.com/blog/big12/post/_/id/111152/top-10-player-spring-update-kansas-state-wildcats
Was it ever confirmed if Geary is still on this team? I thought he roided and Randolphed himself on out.
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http://espn.go.com/blog/big12/post/_/id/111152/top-10-player-spring-update-kansas-state-wildcats
Was it ever confirmed if Geary is still on this team? I thought he roided and Randolphed himself on out.
i heard he is still on the team. i also heard the reason will davis was pissed and wanted to leave (or did he actually leave?) was bc moore was gonna be gone all summer taking care of his family sitch, and davis was all like, "eff this, why i am gonna run myself into the ground all summer just for moore to come back and beat me out come fall."
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More rumblings about Pringle being the real deal at WR.
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More rumblings about Pringle being the real deal at WR.
that is a good rumbling. please, can we only post the positive ones from now on that make me stupidly optimistic? i like those kind but only seem to get told the other.
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http://espn.go.com/blog/big12/post/_/id/111152/top-10-player-spring-update-kansas-state-wildcats
Was it ever confirmed if Geary is still on this team? I thought he roided and Randolphed himself on out.
i heard he is still on the team. i also heard the reason will davis was pissed and wanted to leave (or did he actually leave?) was bc moore was gonna be gone all summer taking care of his family sitch, and davis was all like, "eff this, why i am gonna run myself into the ground all summer just for moore to come back and beat me out come fall."
If it's true that Moore could be gone all summer then jump back over Davis in camp, that would be great. I don't believe it though.
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More rumblings about Pringle being the real deal at WR.
that is a good rumbling. please, can we only post the positive ones from now on that make me stupidly optimistic? i like those kind but only seem to get told the other.
take it to Wildcat Salute
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More rumblings about Pringle being the real deal at WR.
that is a good rumbling. please, can we only post the positive ones from now on that make me stupidly optimistic? i like those kind but only seem to get told the other.
You're going to rough ridin' love the bww watch parties.
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If Pringle beats his guy by 5 yards, that puts the defender in perfect position to intercept a pass from our QBs. A little concerned about this.
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Has there been any news on the Frantz/Applegate situation?
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I am looking forward to discussing ApplegateGate.
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More rumblings about Pringle being the real deal at WR.
that is a good rumbling. please, can we only post the positive ones from now on that make me stupidly optimistic? i like those kind but only seem to get told the other.
You're going to rough ridin' love the bww watch parties.
the bww watch parties are really just the wildcat salute fbook thread but actually irl, aren't they?
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More rumblings about Pringle being the real deal at WR.
that is a good rumbling. please, can we only post the positive ones from now on that make me stupidly optimistic? i like those kind but only seem to get told the other.
You're going to rough ridin' love the bww watch parties.
the bww watch parties are really just the wildcat salute fbook thread but actually irl, aren't they?
That is exactly the post I anticipated making when you responded and asked me how they were. Saul, Mixed-Nutz & I attended the isu one last year and had a blast for non-victory-vs.-isu reasons.
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If Pringle beats his guy by 5 yards, that puts the defender in perfect position to intercept a pass from our QBs. A little concerned about this.
The Burton version of this is beat your guy by 5 yards and then completely just stonehandedly not even close drop the pass that comes to you. And then follow it up by catching the dying quail Hubener throws on the next play, but like 3 yards out of bounds bc it's such a terrible pass.
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Has there been any news on the Frantz/Applegate situation?
Frantz ain't going nowhere......applegate, who gives a crap
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The coaches clinic is going on right now so there is a chance some tidbits might emerge from that. At least something other than the woe is me posts that are far too common.
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The coaches clinic is going on right now so there is a chance some tidbits might emerge from that. At least something other than the woe is me posts that are far too common.
hE, you get in there and you bird dog us some hot scoops. I am paying a reward for the hottest scoop out there and you strike me as a dude who is ready to collect.
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Applegate at it again!
:curse:
:bang:
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The coaches clinic is going on right now so there is a chance some tidbits might emerge from that. At least something other than the woe is me posts that are far too common.
hE, you get in there and you bird dog us some hot scoops. I am paying a reward for the hottest scoop out there and you strike me as a dude who is ready to collect.
I don't have any tidbits out of there. I live a long way from Manhattan nowadays. Only thing I have is personal observations from people that were there and nothing earth shattering or that hasn't already been said. Pringle looks really good. Ertz spins the ball really well and had more reps than the other 2. Could mean he is on track to win the starting nod again, could mean they are trying to bring him back to speed. Offense was taking the defense to the woodshed at times, again, could be based off what they were running and how they were running it, could be the offense is much better, or the defense has taken a step back. Guess you can choose the most likely scenario to believe in. Practices seemed to be less intense than in previous years. Maybe a philosophy change or they were just dumbing them down because outsiders were there.
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You really let me down hE
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Woe is me
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You really let me down hE
Yeah, I tend to do that.
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My dad was at a coaches clinic at The Bill today. I'll hit the key points of what I recall.
1) I hate my job for me not being able to attend with him
2) Ertz is number 1 on the depth chart and I can't remember but I'm fairly certain he said delton is 2 and Joe 3. He said Ertz and Alex looked great and and Joe looked the same. Also said everyone is very high on Skyler, he can really throw and is very quick. He will red shirt
3) he wasn't able to watch or recognize to many players aside from QBs but he said (and he always says this) that most of the players he saw were small, and don't look like D1 football players. He has been on that kick since the OU game, and he is probably right but I'm not sure he would admit otherwise at this point anyways.
That's all I got, nothing earth shattering but O figured I'd pass it along. He says Vanier is top notch. He hasn't been in a lot of D1 facilities, maybe 8-10 but it's the best he has seen and by a fair margin.
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that guy just mumped over his dad
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My dad was at a coaches clinic at The Bill today. I'll hit the key points of what I recall.
1) I hate my job for me not being able to attend with him
2) Ertz is number 1 on the depth chart and I can't remember but I'm fairly certain he said delton is 2 and Joe 3. He said Ertz and Alex looked great and and Joe looked the same. Also said everyone is very high on Skyler, he can really throw and is very quick. He will red shirt
3) he wasn't able to watch or recognize to many players aside from QBs but he said (and he always says this) that most of the players he saw were small, and don't look like D1 football players. He has been on that kick since the OU game, and he is probably right but I'm not sure he would admit otherwise at this point anyways.
That's all I got, nothing earth shattering but O figured I'd pass it along. He says Vanier is top notch. He hasn't been in a lot of D1 facilities, maybe 8-10 but it's the best he has seen and by a fair margin.
Ertz number 1 makes sense based on him getting more reps. I didn't really get any info about the other qb's but it sounded like Ertz was numero uno at this time. The thing we talked about the most was the fact the defense was getting scorched by the offense. Especially the secondary. To a point where there was general concern about the quality of it. Considering the number returning on that side of the ball I would have expected the opposite. I take it with a grain of salt because it is only a couple practices and you never know what the setup is, but it is still very worrisome to me because I'm struggling to believe the passing game is that much improved even with Pringle apparently being a stud.
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how many starters that return is an overused talking about when you're talking about a defense that wasn't that good in the first place. returning starts is great when those starters have proven to be good, but this defense has been average at best so why would we suddenly expect them to kick ass? one offsesason? nah, man.
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how many starters that return is an overused talking about when you're talking about a defense that wasn't that good in the first place. returning starts is great when those starters have proven to be good, but this defense has been average godawful at best so why would we suddenly expect them to kick ass? one offsesason? nah, man.
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Yeah, the defense last year was the worst it's been since Cosh was running it.
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The defense as well as the offense are going to be awful this year. Like crazy bad.
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I wouldn't expect them to kick ass. I would expect them to be further along at this point than the offense which was equally as bad last year.
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If Pringle beats his guy by 5 yards, that puts the defender in perfect position to intercept a pass from our QBs. A little concerned about this.
:thumbs:
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I wouldn't expect them to kick ass. I would expect them to be further along at this point than the offense which was equally as bad last year.
fair point BUT STILL
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the wireless coach's headset gurus are really coming out of the woodwork lately itt
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My dad was at a coaches clinic at The Bill today. I'll hit the key points of what I recall.
1) I hate my job for me not being able to attend with him
2) Ertz is number 1 on the depth chart and I can't remember but I'm fairly certain he said delton is 2 and Joe 3. He said Ertz and Alex looked great and and Joe looked the same. Also said everyone is very high on Skyler, he can really throw and is very quick. He will red shirt
3) he wasn't able to watch or recognize to many players aside from QBs but he said (and he always says this) that most of the players he saw were small, and don't look like D1 football players. He has been on that kick since the OU game, and he is probably right but I'm not sure he would admit otherwise at this point anyways.
That's all I got, nothing earth shattering but O figured I'd pass it along. He says Vanier is top notch. He hasn't been in a lot of D1 facilities, maybe 8-10 but it's the best he has seen and by a fair margin.
Ertz number 1 makes sense based on him getting more reps. I didn't really get any info about the other qb's but it sounded like Ertz was numero uno at this time. The thing we talked about the most was the fact the defense was getting scorched by the offense. Especially the secondary. To a point where there was general concern about the quality of it. Considering the number returning on that side of the ball I would have expected the opposite. I take it with a grain of salt because it is only a couple practices and you never know what the setup is, but it is still very worrisome to me because I'm struggling to believe the passing game is that much improved even with Pringle apparently being a stud.
Is the Cal transfer on the team or does he join this summer? Hopefully that helps shore up the back end.
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Yeah, the defense last year was the worst it's been since Cosh was running it.
Numbers would say its the 2nd or 3rd worst Snyder defense ever.
Sorted by Yards Per Play:
Year YPP
1999 3.7
2002 3.7
1997 4.0
2000 4.0
1995 4.1
1996 4.1
2001 4.2
1998 4.2
2003 4.3
1992 4.4
1994 4.6
1993 4.9
2013 5.1
2005 5.1
1991 5.1
2009 5.4
2012 5.4
2014 5.5
1990 5.5
2004 5.6
2011 5.7
1989 6.0
2015 6.2
2010 6.4
Sorted by Points per Play:
Year PPP
2002 0.137
1995 0.162
1997 0.168
1998 0.168
2001 0.169
1996 0.170
2003 0.179
1999 0.182
1994 0.190
1992 0.207
1993 0.208
2000 0.219
2012 0.241
2013 0.248
1991 0.274
2014 0.290
1990 0.313
2009 0.322
2005 0.328
2011 0.341
2010 0.341
2015 0.370
1989 0.420
2004 0.430
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Yeah, the defense last year was the worst it's been since Cosh was running it.
Numbers would say its the 2nd or 3rd worst Snyder defense ever.
Sorted by Yards Per Play:
Year YPP
1999 3.7
2002 3.7
1997 4.0
2000 4.0
1995 4.1
1996 4.1
2001 4.2
1998 4.2
2003 4.3
1992 4.4
1994 4.6
1993 4.9
2013 5.1
2005 5.1
1991 5.1
2009 5.4
2012 5.4
2014 5.5
1990 5.5
2004 5.6
2011 5.7
1989 6.0
2015 6.2
2010 6.4
Sorted by Points per Play:
Year PPP
2002 0.137
1995 0.162
1997 0.168
1998 0.168
2001 0.169
1996 0.170
2003 0.179
1999 0.182
1994 0.190
1992 0.207
1993 0.208
2000 0.219
2012 0.241
2013 0.248
1991 0.274
2014 0.290
1990 0.313
2009 0.322
2005 0.328
2011 0.341
2010 0.341
2015 0.370
1989 0.420
2004 0.430
This is pretty good information, but more helpful would be the yards/play and points/play given up by our defense compared to the conference average for that year. The style of play has changed so dramatically that decades-long comparisons like this have to be taken into account. In short, offenses are better now than they used to be (and not just because they are going faster, which is already accounted for by looking at it per play).
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Shut the eff up steffy
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The coaches clinic is going on right now so there is a chance some tidbits might emerge from that. At least something other than the woe is me posts that are far too common.
hE, you get in there and you bird dog us some hot scoops. I am paying a reward for the hottest scoop out there and you strike me as a dude who is ready to collect.
I don't have any tidbits out of there. I live a long way from Manhattan nowadays. Only thing I have is personal observations from people that were there and nothing earth shattering or that hasn't already been said. Pringle looks really good. Ertz spins the ball really well and had more reps than the other 2. Could mean he is on track to win the starting nod again, could mean they are trying to bring him back to speed. Offense was taking the defense to the woodshed at times, again, could be based off what they were running and how they were running it, could be the offense is much better, or the defense has taken a step back. Guess you can choose the most likely scenario to believe in. Practices seemed to be less intense than in previous years. Maybe a philosophy change or they were just dumbing them down because outsiders were there.
If anything, having an improved offense if it is improved) that they can see every practice will help them out regardless. I mean, if you get to see things closer to what you'll actually have to defend instead of hubes doing hubes things that probably helps out a lot, even if it makes you like a damn fool.
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Shut the eff up steffy
Actually he's right about that points per play idea.
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How many 3 and outs did we have last year compared to others? I'm sure it didn't help that the D often had very little time to rest and couldn't keep opposing offenses from getting into a good rhythm.
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Shut the eff up steffy
This is too complicated for you, dolt. Better to just stay away.
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Did steffy just put kslim in a body bag? This blog is always full of surprises.
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My dad was at a coaches clinic at The Bill today. I'll hit the key points of what I recall.
1) I hate my job for me not being able to attend with him
2) Ertz is number 1 on the depth chart and I can't remember but I'm fairly certain he said delton is 2 and Joe 3. He said Ertz and Alex looked great and and Joe looked the same. Also said everyone is very high on Skyler, he can really throw and is very quick. He will red shirt
3) he wasn't able to watch or recognize to many players aside from QBs but he said (and he always says this) that most of the players he saw were small, and don't look like D1 football players. He has been on that kick since the OU game, and he is probably right but I'm not sure he would admit otherwise at this point anyways.
That's all I got, nothing earth shattering but O figured I'd pass it along. He says Vanier is top notch. He hasn't been in a lot of D1 facilities, maybe 8-10 but it's the best he has seen and by a fair margin.
Ertz number 1 makes sense based on him getting more reps. I didn't really get any info about the other qb's but it sounded like Ertz was numero uno at this time. The thing we talked about the most was the fact the defense was getting scorched by the offense. Especially the secondary. To a point where there was general concern about the quality of it. Considering the number returning on that side of the ball I would have expected the opposite. I take it with a grain of salt because it is only a couple practices and you never know what the setup is, but it is still very worrisome to me because I'm struggling to believe the passing game is that much improved even with Pringle apparently being a stud.
Is the Cal transfer on the team or does he join this summer? Hopefully that helps shore up the back end.
Cedric Dozier, the Cal transfer, still needs to graduate from Cal, so after he does that he should be here in the summer.
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This is pretty good information, but more helpful would be the yards/play and points/play given up by our defense compared to the conference average for that year. The style of play has changed so dramatically that decades-long comparisons like this have to be taken into account. In short, offenses are better now than they used to be (and not just because they are going faster, which is already accounted for by looking at it per play).
Oh, that's a fair point, but I don't have time for that. The acceptable numbers certainly changed as the game changed in the 00s.
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This is pretty good information, but more helpful would be the yards/play and points/play given up by our defense compared to the conference average for that year. The style of play has changed so dramatically that decades-long comparisons like this have to be taken into account. In short, offenses are better now than they used to be (and not just because they are going faster, which is already accounted for by looking at it per play).
Oh, that's a fair point, but I don't have time for that. The acceptable numbers certainly changed as the game changed in the 00s.
Yep, I don't have time either. The defense that is way "underrated" according to the chart is 2012 defense. They were a much better defense than some of Snyder's defenses in the early 90's (A. Brown, Meshak, Nigel, Zimmermann, etc.), but the chart suggests otherwise.
I sure do miss Arthur Brown.
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My dad was at a coaches clinic at The Bill today. I'll hit the key points of what I recall.
1) I hate my job for me not being able to attend with him
2) Ertz is number 1 on the depth chart and I can't remember but I'm fairly certain he said delton is 2 and Joe 3. He said Ertz and Alex looked great and and Joe looked the same. Also said everyone is very high on Skyler, he can really throw and is very quick. He will red shirt
3) he wasn't able to watch or recognize to many players aside from QBs but he said (and he always says this) that most of the players he saw were small, and don't look like D1 football players. He has been on that kick since the OU game, and he is probably right but I'm not sure he would admit otherwise at this point anyways.
That's all I got, nothing earth shattering but O figured I'd pass it along. He says Vanier is top notch. He hasn't been in a lot of D1 facilities, maybe 8-10 but it's the best he has seen and by a fair margin.
Ertz number 1 makes sense based on him getting more reps. I didn't really get any info about the other qb's but it sounded like Ertz was numero uno at this time. The thing we talked about the most was the fact the defense was getting scorched by the offense. Especially the secondary. To a point where there was general concern about the quality of it. Considering the number returning on that side of the ball I would have expected the opposite. I take it with a grain of salt because it is only a couple practices and you never know what the setup is, but it is still very worrisome to me because I'm struggling to believe the passing game is that much improved even with Pringle apparently being a stud.
Is the Cal transfer on the team or does he join this summer? Hopefully that helps shore up the back end.
Cedric Dozier, the Cal transfer, still needs to graduate from Cal, so after he does that he should be here in the summer.
Im unclear how the graduate transfer system works. I just assumed they had to have actually graduated before we could announce their signing. Curious at what point schools are allowed to contact them...
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^^^ask steffy
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Numbers would say its the 2nd or 3rd worst Snyder defense ever.
Sorted by Yards Per Play:
Year YPP
1999 3.7
2002 3.7
1997 4.0
2000 4.0
1995 4.1
1996 4.1
2001 4.2
1998 4.2
2003 4.3
1992 4.4
1994 4.6
1993 4.9
2013 5.1
2005 5.1
1991 5.1
2009 5.4
2012 5.4
2014 5.5
1990 5.5
2004 5.6
2011 5.7
1989 6.0
2015 6.2
2010 6.4
Sorted by Points per Play:
Year PPP
2002 0.137
1995 0.162
1997 0.168
1998 0.168
2001 0.169
1996 0.170
2003 0.179
1999 0.182
1994 0.190
1992 0.207
1993 0.208
2000 0.219
2012 0.241
2013 0.248
1991 0.274
2014 0.290
1990 0.313
2009 0.322
2005 0.328
2011 0.341
2010 0.341
2015 0.370
1989 0.420
2004 0.430
Sort of incredible what that '03 defense did to OU in the Dr. Pepper.
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Pretty sure we 'sketti brained their QB early in that game.
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03 defense had a ton of sacks. They got to white with 4 pass rushers whenever they wanted.
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NEW CONTENT: This K-State Defense is Juiced.
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03 defense had a ton of sacks. They got to white with 4 pass rushers whenever they wanted.
Yup, OU's O-line that game was just getting their crap pushed in from about the 2nd quarter on. White had nothing to do but scramble and take hits.
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just got some new info about our dudes dudes: we're tiny and sucky and are going to be sucky. pretty bad news I know. wish I had better news but it's suck city, usa.
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oscar is in troubs now. :Woot:
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NEW CONTENT: This K-State Defense is Juiced.
That's a good start, but I don't think they started early enough to make a difference for this season.
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NEW CONTENT: This K-State Defense is Juiced.
That's a good start, but I don't think they started early enough to make a difference for this season.
I still want to buy a juicer but haven't caved quite yet. The juicers at Vanier look incredible.
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Snyder said we are two deep across the board at linebacker: Lee, Moore, Davis, Kirby, Tanking, Sizelove.
I would be interested to hear how the Georgia boys (Sullivan and Hughes, I think) and Chase Johnston are doing. We have a ton of linebackers right now.
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#suckcity
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#suckcity
Yea, I'm just afraid the interior d line is going to suck such major ass, it really won't matter how good anyone else is.
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"That white kid at the Tree school in California will run for 297 yards on us and our DL will look like toddlers"-100% real quote from one of the trainers
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So weird and random
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#suckcity
Yea, I'm just afraid the interior d line is going to suck such major ass, it really won't matter how good anyone else is.
Snyder pointed out how well the Rose has looked....
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"That white kid at the Tree school in California will run for 297 yards on us and our DL will look like toddlers"-100% real quote from one of the trainers
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I don't want him to be right
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It's been reiterated to me on just how good pringle is. Also believe that he will be replacing Jones in the wildcat assuming he learns the plays. (Because he can throw the ball well apparently and jones can't hit the broad side of a barn)
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It's been reiterated to me on just how good pringle is. Also believe that he will be replacing Jones in the wildcat assuming he learns the plays. (Because he can throw the ball well apparently and jones can't hit the broad side of a barn)
What happens if Delton doesnt start? Does he run the WC?
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#suckcity
Yea, I'm just afraid the interior d line is going to suck such major ass, it really won't matter how good anyone else is.
Snyder pointed out how well the Rose has looked....
Unfortunately the Rose can't do it himself. After him, there are some juco scrubs and a bunch of walk-on's. (no offense to juco scrubs and walk-on's).
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It's been reiterated to me on just how good pringle is. Also believe that he will be replacing Jones in the wildcat assuming he learns the plays. (Because he can throw the ball well apparently and jones can't hit the broad side of a barn)
What happens if Delton doesnt start? Does he run the WC?
Yeah, backup QB should run the WC/short yardage QB stuff to keep defenses honest (plus bonus, gives loser of QB derby chance to play). Will legitimately believe the entire offensive staff is senile (or paranoid due to last year's QB injuries) if this doesn't happen.
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#suckcity
Yea, I'm just afraid the interior d line is going to suck such major ass, it really won't matter how good anyone else is.
Snyder pointed out how well the Rose has looked....
Unfortunately the Rose can't do it himself. After him, there are some juco scrubs and a bunch of walk-on's. (no offense to juco scrubs and walk-on's).
Considering that we appear to have no quality defense tackle besides Geary, and considering that we appear to have 5-6 decent linebackers, perhaps we experiment with a 3-4. It worked for Baylor last year (just need Geary to be a Billings, I guess (no raping, though)).
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classic steffy post
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I personally hate the wildcat, but I heard Pringle was running it in practice and the fact he also has an arm makes it more viable than with Jones running it. It sounds like he is a serious playmaker and they want to get the ball into his hands. No idea if they would bring in Delton to run it if he isn't the #1 qb. On that note, I would say there is a very good chance as it stands right now that it will be Ertz back there against Stanford. Coaches won't say publicly, but behind closed doors they have a good idea who the starter will be. Since Ertz is currently #1, I'd guess that is who they are thinking. Ertz is the best passer(consistency/accuracy) of the 3 and can run the ball, Delton is the best runner/most elusive(compared to Bishop/Ell) and can pass but lacks some consistency, and Hubes is the smartest qb to ever play at state(at least under Snyder). They say he understands situations and the playbook better than any previous or current qb. He just lacks in the accuracy and some physical attributes. I've also heard he looks better in practice but nerves get the best of him in games. After what happened last year with injuries, Snyder wants as many reps for all 3 as possible.
I have yet to hear anything great about the defense. Limited observations, but all anyone can seem to remember is that nobody in the secondary could cover Pringle and it was him scoring touchdowns all day. I've heard nothing about either line or the linebackers.
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Hubes will make a great HS coach is BFE Kansas some day.
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Smartest QB ever, but still check with me every play. pfft.
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Smartest QB ever, but still check with me every play. pfft.
He must also be the worst athlete to ever play QB at KSU, in order to explain how rough ridin' terrible at playing QB he was.
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If he is the smartest QB ever, given the results, he certainly doesn't seem to have the 5th heart. I mean, a QB who knows that much should be able to find ways to benefit. Just doesn't want to work hard enough, I guess.
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Klein was the smartest rough ridin' QB of all time. Minus listening to whatever coach called that behind the back pass. Beasley is probably right there too.
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Nope, they just tried super hard. all 5 hearts.
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He got sketti'd pretty early against decent competition, so maybe he could've been smart before, but sketti-brained Hubs was a huge dumbass on the field after that.
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i know this doesn't need to be said, but if you are the smartest person in the world but still can't get your body to do what your head is telling you, it means eff all. also, klein.
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i know this doesn't need to be said, but if you are the smartest person in the world but still can't get your body to do what your head is telling you, it means eff all. also, klein.
Well exactly. That is why he is 3rd on the depth chart. It doesn't help that he tightens up during games because of nerves which makes his inconsistency even worse.
Maybe the other two will have issues with that as well. We just don't know yet.
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If i ever found out who said hubes is the smartest qb to ever play under snyder i would karate chop them in the balls
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We need to get the pringles logo stitched into our jerseys.
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If i ever found out who said hubes is the smartest qb to ever play under snyder i would karate chop them in the balls
WILDCAT SALUTE!
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We need to get the pringles logo stitched into our jerseys.
He's going to pop the top off opposing defenses.. I mean, other WR's just don't stack up.
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Smartest QB ever, but still check with me every play. pfft.
He must also be the worst athlete to ever play QB at KSU, in order to explain how rough ridin' terrible at playing QB he was.
I think he was the worst athlete I have seen play QB.
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i know this doesn't need to be said, but if you are the smartest person in the world but still can't get your body to do what your head is telling you, it means eff all. also, klein.
Well exactly. That is why he is 3rd on the depth chart. It doesn't help that he tightens up during games because of nerves which makes his inconsistency even worse.
Maybe the other two will have issues with that as well. We just don't know yet.
It's kind of a silly thing to say he's better in practice because he's not nervous. I mean, most people find it easier to function when not facing 50,000 sets of scrutinizing eyes.
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Klein was the smartest rough ridin' QB of all time. Minus listening to whatever coach called that behind the back pass. Beasley is probably right there too.
Was SAMs not?
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I have no clue if sams was smart or not. I didn't see him enough. Seems like he knew where to run..
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If i ever found out who said hubes is the smartest qb to ever play under snyder i would karate chop them in the balls
WILDCAT SALUTE!
i found out, not shocked in the least.
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I have no clue if sams was smart or not. I didn't see him enough. Seems like he knew where to run..
He also never seemed to audible that much. I feel like QB's that audible and read the defense are pretty smart. It doesn't matter if your smart or not tho, if you're the best rough ridin' athlete on the field.
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If you're specifically told to run the play it's not really your fault
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Well ya, but some QB's are trusted to audible if they see something they don't like on the field. AKA knowing the offense vs defense comparison. AKA being pretty smart.
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I hope you weren't trying to imply a race battle by asking me about Sams. Because if you read my post, I said Beasley was right up there with Klein.
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I wasn't implying anything
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Ok. I just know we love calling out GPC posters for implying that black QB's don't know the playbook, which is rough ridin' a ridiculous.
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I mean jake audibled all the time too and he was garbage, so
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He audibled his way into the record books and into my heart! :love:
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He audibled his way into the record books and into my heart! :love:
:D
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CgCEcPxUAAAq79x.jpg)
This was before Dick Myers was hired. He can expedite any requests.
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#suckcity
Yea, I'm just afraid the interior d line is going to suck such major ass, it really won't matter how good anyone else is.
Snyder pointed out how well the Rose has looked....
Unfortunately the Rose can't do it himself. After him, there are some juco scrubs and a bunch of walk-on's. (no offense to juco scrubs and walk-on's).
Considering that we appear to have no quality defense tackle besides Geary, and considering that we appear to have 5-6 decent linebackers, perhaps we experiment with a 3-4. It worked for Baylor last year (just need Geary to be a Billings, I guess (no raping, though)).
You have got to be one stupid mother rough rider to try to run a 3-4 defense without sure fire NFL d-line men (in Baylor's case the rapey'r the better). That nose guard better be a top 5 pick dline men that demands a double team on every god damn play too.
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Did nerves also make Hubes look like a whiner with terrible body language? He looked like the anti-Klien between plays, especially after bad ones.
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With noted exceptions the 25 years of the LHC Bill Snyder era has likely been the most inept in P5 college football history at recruiting interior defensive linemen. Like, you literally have to try and be that (this) bad at it.
Oh, but golly Dax, getting good interior DL's is just really hard. No, nope, nearly every other P5 program manages to regularly land legit P5 serviceable interior DL, except one, K-State.
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#suckcity
Yea, I'm just afraid the interior d line is going to suck such major ass, it really won't matter how good anyone else is.
Snyder pointed out how well the Rose has looked....
Unfortunately the Rose can't do it himself. After him, there are some juco scrubs and a bunch of walk-on's. (no offense to juco scrubs and walk-on's).
Considering that we appear to have no quality defense tackle besides Geary, and considering that we appear to have 5-6 decent linebackers, perhaps we experiment with a 3-4. It worked for Baylor last year (just need Geary to be a Billings, I guess (no raping, though)).
You have got to be one stupid mother rough rider to try to run a 3-4 defense without sure fire NFL d-line men (in Baylor's case the rapey'r the better). That nose guard better be a top 5 pick dline men that demands a double team on every god damn play too.
Well, like I said, Geary would need to be a Billings.
In any event, the issue isn't which defense is better; the question is which defense is better with the personnel we have. I mean, if you were our option at tackle besides Geary, I'm pretty sure I would rather roll with Sizelove as an additional linebacker. From what I understand, our options at d tackle are similar to you; thus, the idea.
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Careful Gooch, this guy is dropping body bags everywhere lately
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Yep we have will Davis, Jared sizelove, and Trent tanking, need that 3-4 to harness this explosion of talent
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Yep we have will Davis, Jared sizelove, and Trent tanking, need that 3-4 to harness this explosion of talent
But Gooch at defensive tackle. Think e=mc2. It's all relative. Compared to Gooch, Sizelove looks like LT. (Actually I think Sizelove is going to be very good, even if the comparison is somebody besides Gooch at tackle.)
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Who was it who posted that adorable story about hubes' gf not being sure that she wanted to be an NFL wife? I hope that's true. I hope she really does feel like she dodged the bullet of being an NFL wife.
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I don't think it was hubes, bud. I think it was a late JUCO QB who was hurt his first season out in Cali who's already left the program. Water is wet tho.
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No, it was bazooka joe
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I don't think it was hubes, bud. I think it was a late JUCO QB who was hurt his first season out in Cali who's already left the program. Water is wet tho.
Take a lap
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Interesting.
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hey doorknobs, get back to extreme tidbits or gtfo of the thread
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I wasn't even talking about Cali love. I was talking about that other dork face. You guys know who I'm talking about?
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I wasn't even talking about Cali love. I was talking about that other dork face. You guys know who I'm talking about?
Taylor Laird's gf didn't want to be a NFL wife. Hard Knocks and stuff :cry:
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I wasn't even talking about Cali love. I was talking about that other dork face. You guys know who I'm talking about?
Taylor Laird's gf didn't want to be a NFL wife. Hard Knocks and stuff :cry:
Yeah, that girl. She bragged about how he was the starting QB at K-state and stuff. :lol:
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I wasn't even talking about Cali love. I was talking about that other dork face. You guys know who I'm talking about?
Taylor Laird's gf didn't want to be a NFL wife. Hard Knocks and stuff :cry:
Yeah, that girl. She bragged about how he was the starting QB at K-state and stuff. :lol:
She just seems like the worst kind of girl.
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#suckcity
Yea, I'm just afraid the interior d line is going to suck such major ass, it really won't matter how good anyone else is.
Snyder pointed out how well the Rose has looked....
Unfortunately the Rose can't do it himself. After him, there are some juco scrubs and a bunch of walk-on's. (no offense to juco scrubs and walk-on's).
Is that Dishon guy supposed to be any good? Seems like a pretty KStatey player.
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Who was it who posted that adorable story about hubes' gf not being sure that she wanted to be an NFL wife? I hope that's true. I hope she really does feel like she dodged the bullet of being an NFL wife.
i told this story to a friend and he said he knew the gf and this story would be completely in character
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Two things that I am positively excited about for this season:
1. Never having to watch Morgan Burns play cornerback again.
2. Jack Cantele never kicking again.
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Two things that I am positively excited about for this season:
1. Never having to watch Morgan Burns play cornerback again.
2. Jack Cantele never kicking again.
Cantele was fine last year. Wth, man. Though this post did make me go look up McCrane's college stats. He is 25/26 on FG's in his career :surprised:
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Two things that I am positively excited about for this season:
1. Never having to watch Morgan Burns play cornerback again.
2. Jack Cantele never kicking again.
Morgan Burns wasn't the coach who thought it was a good idea to never play the ball
Jack Cantele was by all accounts a very good college kicker. He was first team all conference. He had one bad game in three years, instead of shitting on him we should be happy that for the last three years we've had the two best kickers on the conference.
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Two things that I am positively excited about for this season:
1. Never having to watch Morgan Burns play cornerback again.
2. Jack Cantele never kicking again.
Morgan Burns wasn't the coach who thought it was a good idea to never play the ball
Jack Cantele was by all accounts a very good college kicker. He was first team all conference. He had one bad game in three years, instead of shitting on him we should be happy that for the last three years we've had the two best kickers on the conference.
I've always had this speculation that he purposely threw that game... ya know, got in to some debt with the wrong kind of people and they said blow your kicks or we'll cut your leg off type thing.
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Two things that I am positively excited about for this season:
1. Never having to watch Morgan Burns play cornerback again.
2. Jack Cantele never kicking again.
Morgan Burns wasn't the coach who thought it was a good idea to never play the ball
Jack Cantele was by all accounts a very good college kicker. He was first team all conference. He had one bad game in three years, instead of shitting on him we should be happy that for the last three years we've had the two best kickers on the conference.
I've always had this speculation that he purposely threw that game... ya know, got in to some debt with the wrong kind of people and they said blow your kicks or we'll cut your leg off type thing.
sounds reasonable.
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Two things that I am positively excited about for this season:
1. Never having to watch Morgan Burns play cornerback again.
2. Jack Cantele never kicking again.
Morgan Burns wasn't the coach who thought it was a good idea to never play the ball
Jack Cantele was by all accounts a very good college kicker. He was first team all conference. He had one bad game in three years, instead of shitting on him we should be happy that for the last three years we've had the two best kickers on the conference.
I've always had this speculation that he purposely threw that game... ya know, got in to some debt with the wrong kind of people and they said blow your kicks or we'll cut your leg off type thing.
sounds reasonable.
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Cd2ByrIbXbA/maxresdefault.jpg)
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Two things that I am positively excited about for this season:
1. Never having to watch Morgan Burns play cornerback again.
2. Jack Cantele never kicking again.
Cantele was fine last year. Wth, man. Though this post did make me go look up McCrane's college stats. He is 25/26 on FG's in his career :surprised:
I can't forgive him for the Auburn game. Probably not fair, but that's where I stand.
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He also missed a chip shot against okie state last year
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He also missed a chip shot against okie state last year
To be fair, it wasn't a chip shot. IIRC, it was 40+ yards so not a gimme. Unlike his ones against Auburn.
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Stop embarrassing yourself cas
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auburn 2014 is a fair point, but ok st last year. nobody can still be holding onto that 'ish, can they? really? there are like 10k ways we could have won or lost that game.
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auburn 2014 is a fair point, but ok st last year. nobody can still be holding onto that 'ish, can they? really? there are like 10k ways we could have won or lost that game.
It's always easy to blame the kicker because there are few plays in football where the accountability for the success of the play falls more in the direction of one guy as opposed to the whole unit.
Yeah, you have to get a good snap, and a good hold, and you have to prevent some guy from getting his paws up, but on the whole, the number of things that usually go wrong on a kick is pretty minimal compared to your average offensive play.
People forget missed kicks, dropped passes, and bad throws. It's easy to look at that person and point a finger because it wasn't some chain of events involving multiple team members that lead to those failures, by and large.
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That said, I was never comfortable with Cantele, which is odd because he was a 1st Team All-Big 12 kicker. His problem was never talent, but he got the yips, and those can come on whenever.
Wasn't there one point when he was deep in his own head that he shanked an XP?
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I forgave him for the Auburn game when Auburn turned out to not be very good anyway.
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I forgave him for the Auburn game when Auburn turned out to not be very good anyway.
Yeah.. and I mean, it's Anthony Cantele, we shouldn't be mad at that dork, especially with the dogshit performance from Waters and Lockett that night.
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Winning that auburn game would've been awesome. We didn't lose our second game that season until November 8th.
I know we weren't worldbeaters that year, but we really were a pretty good team, and (assuming everything played out the same) would have been getting a lot of fun playoff buzz through the last week of the regular season.
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I live for fun playoff buzz, dlew! :thumbs:
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Winning the Auburn game would have really maximized the size of the chip on our collective KSU shoulder that year, and that is what KSU football is all about. Would have been great.
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People thought Auburn was good and that win would've been huge that early in the season. Whether Auburn was actually good was irrelevant.
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People thought Auburn was good and that win would've been huge that early in the season. Whether Auburn was actually good was irrelevant.
Party time
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McCrane is like 2x a better kicker than Jack Cantele. Jack would have never played (maybe senior day) if it weren't for that injury Matt McCrane had against UTSA. (?)
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People thought Auburn was good and that win would've been huge that early in the season. Whether Auburn was actually good was irrelevant.
Party time
Wasn't Miami pretty crappy when K-State beat them? Wasn't that win, "huge that early in the season."
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People thought Auburn was good and that win would've been huge that early in the season. Whether Auburn was actually good was irrelevant.
Party time
Wasn't Miami pretty crappy when K-State beat them? Wasn't that win, "huge that early in the season."
It was pretty huge in 2011 but not in 2012, imo.
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McCrane is like 2x a better kicker than Jack Cantele. Jack would have never played (maybe senior day) if it weren't for that injury Matt McCrane had against UTSA. (?)
That is more of a compliment to how good McCrane is vs. how bad Cantele was perceived to be.
If he can get some more distance on his kicks, McCrane could have a long NFL career.
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McCrane is like 2x a better kicker than Jack Cantele. Jack would have never played (maybe senior day) if it weren't for that injury Matt McCrane had against UTSA. (?)
That is more of a compliment to how good McCrane is vs. how bad Cantele was perceived to be.
If he can get some more distance on his kicks, McCrane could have a long NFL career.
That's fair. Those Cantele kicks to beat TCU & ISU were awesome tho.
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People thought Auburn was good and that win would've been huge that early in the season. Whether Auburn was actually good was irrelevant.
Party time
Wasn't Miami pretty crappy when K-State beat them? Wasn't that win, "huge that early in the season."
Pretty sure Miami was unranked both years and Auburn was top 5ish.
Beating a name program like Miami is always very fun, but would not have compared to Auburn.
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McCrane is like 2x a better kicker than Jack Cantele. Jack would have never played (maybe senior day) if it weren't for that injury Matt McCrane had against UTSA. (?)
That is more of a compliment to how good McCrane is vs. how bad Cantele was perceived to be.
If he can get some more distance on his kicks, McCrane could have a long NFL career.
That's fair. Those Cantele kicks to beat TCU & ISU were awesome tho.
When I look back at this little era of KSU football, Cantele and his missed kicks will probably be a fairly minor footnote.
And his kicks against TCU and ISU will probably counterbalance the failure against Auburn.
To be honest, I'll probably remember him mostly as the guy who broke his arm celebrating the TCU kick.
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I remember Lockett's dropped ball in the end zone that got picked off against auburn more than Cantele's missed kick(s)
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I remember Lockett's dropped ball in the end zone that got picked off against auburn more than Cantele's missed kick(s)
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This.
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I remember cantele's tweets after the game the most
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I remember everything Steve Dave said about everything all of the time the most.
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JFC!!! No wonder they call you slobber. :ROFL:
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There was never any prospect of KSU winning that Auburn game.
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JFC!!! No wonder they call you slobber. :ROFL:
(Every now and then I have to remind everyone)
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There was never any prospect of KSU winning that Auburn game.
Well that's just not true.
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There was never any prospect of KSU winning that Auburn game.
Well that's just not true.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Auburn_Tigers_football_team#Schedule
Even if they faltered a bit down the stretch against SEC competition, I'd still classify that team as "good" and they were definitely relevant.
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Interesting:
Auburn, however, struck back with a touchdown pass from Nick Marshall to Ricardo Louis with 3 ineligible receivers down field, that was not noticed by the officials.
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A kstatefans.com poster must have hacked their wiki page
Then, Auburn's last drive ended up in a 3rd and 9, and Nick Marshall threw the ball to Duke Williams who caught the ball, with 2 ineligible receivers down field that once again was not noticed by the officials, sealing the win for Auburn. Overall, Kansas State missed 3 field goals. After this game, the Tigers lead the all-time series 4-0-0.
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That said, I was never comfortable with Cantele, which is odd because he was a 1st Team All-Big 12 kicker. His problem was never talent, but he got the yips, and those can come on whenever.
Wasn't there one point when he was deep in his own head that he shanked an XP?
Sometimes you say mindnumbingly stupid stuff which is weird because it appears as if you put a lot of thought into each and every post.
There is absolutely no evidence that suggests he had the yips, come on man. He was a good college kicker that had one bad game; nothing less, nothing more.
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For the record:
Jack Cantele XP 80/82 FG 28/36 77.8%
Anthony Cantele XP 118/120 FG 37/48 77.1%
Joe Rheem XP 177/187 FG 38/50 76.0%
Jamie Rheem XP 135/138 FG 39/49 79.6%
Martin Grammatica XP 187/192 FG 54/70 77.1%
Sebastian Janikowski XP 126/129 FG 66/83 79.5%
Ka'Imi Fairbairn XP 209/214 FG 68/89 76.4%
dumbasscity.com
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nvm, i read the field goals wrong
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That said, I was never comfortable with Cantele, which is odd because he was a 1st Team All-Big 12 kicker. His problem was never talent, but he got the yips, and those can come on whenever.
Wasn't there one point when he was deep in his own head that he shanked an XP?
Sometimes you say mindnumbingly stupid stuff which is weird because it appears as if you put a lot of thought into each and every post.
There is absolutely no evidence that suggests he had the yips, come on man. He was a good college kicker that had one bad game; nothing less, nothing more.
Didn't his misses come in succession?
Sure, the aggregate stats look fine. But it was shortly after the Auburn game where he shanked the XP right? Or one of his next few attempts after?
Then the OSU game.
He had a slump. I'm not going to look back and confirm, but he had the yips for a bit. It was like watching Rick Ankiel throw the ball into the stands and then wondering what in the hell was going on.
I was defending him, FWIW. But when a kicker slumps, it's mainly mental, and his slump was undoubtedly mental. That's scary because that stuff is unpredictable and usually ill timed.
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Jack Cantele is pretty much on par with gramatica and janikowski, I agree.
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A kstatefans.com poster must have hacked their wiki page
Then, Auburn's last drive ended up in a 3rd and 9, and Nick Marshall threw the ball to Duke Williams who caught the ball, with 2 ineligible receivers down field that once again was not noticed by the officials, sealing the win for Auburn. Overall, Kansas State missed 3 field goals. After this game, the Tigers lead the all-time series 4-0-0.
It may have been Mike Stoops.
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Kyle Broztman was a pretty good kicker and he had a pretty atrocious game one time. Happens.
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A kstatefans.com poster must have hacked their wiki page
Then, Auburn's last drive ended up in a 3rd and 9, and Nick Marshall threw the ball to Duke Williams who caught the ball, with 2 ineligible receivers down field that once again was not noticed by the officials, sealing the win for Auburn. Overall, Kansas State missed 3 field goals. After this game, the Tigers lead the all-time series 4-0-0.
It may have been Mike Stoops.
Probs an Alabama fan. Didn't they get burnt by one of those zone read/option/throw/lineman down field type things the year before in their Iron Bowl loss? When Auburn went to the Natty.
Seems like the type of thing they'd bring up for years and years, and then kill a tree over it.
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Jack Cantele is pretty much on par with gramatica and janikowski, I agree.
What reasonable person wouldn't come to that conclusion
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For the record:
Jack Cantele XP 80/82 FG 28/36 77.8%
Anthony Cantele XP 118/120 FG 37/48 77.1%
Joe Rheem XP 177/187 FG 38/50 76.0%
Jamie Rheem XP 135/138 FG 39/49 79.6%
Martin Grammatica XP 187/192 FG 54/70 77.1%
Sebastian Janikowski XP 126/129 FG 66/83 79.5%
Ka'Imi Fairbairn XP 209/214 FG 68/89 76.4%
dumbasscity.com
That is pretty great. Out of curiosity, would you be able to show how this information and also show how they did on kicks greater than 40 yards?
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"Geary doesn't look good at all"-people who have been at practice
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For the record:
Jack Cantele XP 80/82 FG 28/36 77.8%
Anthony Cantele XP 118/120 FG 37/48 77.1%
Joe Rheem XP 177/187 FG 38/50 76.0%
Jamie Rheem XP 135/138 FG 39/49 79.6%
Martin Grammatica XP 187/192 FG 54/70 77.1%
Sebastian Janikowski XP 126/129 FG 66/83 79.5%
Ka'Imi Fairbairn XP 209/214 FG 68/89 76.4%
dumbasscity.com
That is pretty great. Out of curiosity, would you be able to show how this information and also show how they did on kicks greater than 40 yards?
What does that have to do with anything?
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That said, I was never comfortable with Cantele, which is odd because he was a 1st Team All-Big 12 kicker. His problem was never talent, but he got the yips, and those can come on whenever.
Wasn't there one point when he was deep in his own head that he shanked an XP?
Sometimes you say mindnumbingly stupid stuff which is weird because it appears as if you put a lot of thought into each and every post.
There is absolutely no evidence that suggests he had the yips, come on man. He was a good college kicker that had one bad game; nothing less, nothing more.
Pretty sure he shanked an XP a few games after the Auburn one (he didn't even have many attempts in between by my recollection). Maybe even a couple pretty easy other ones. The Auburn game definitely got in his head.
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For the record:
Jack Cantele XP 80/82 FG 28/36 77.8%
Anthony Cantele XP 118/120 FG 37/48 77.1%
Joe Rheem XP 177/187 FG 38/50 76.0%
Jamie Rheem XP 135/138 FG 39/49 79.6%
Martin Grammatica XP 187/192 FG 54/70 77.1%
Sebastian Janikowski XP 126/129 FG 66/83 79.5%
Ka'Imi Fairbairn XP 209/214 FG 68/89 76.4%
dumbasscity.com
That is pretty great. Out of curiosity, would you be able to show how this information and also show how they did on kicks greater than 40 yards?
What does that have to do with anything?
Seriously? I'm just curious if a higher percentage of attempts and/or misses were from greater than 40 yards for any of the kickers.
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These stats are misleading without something like average kick distance. Gramatica may have only been 77% but the coaches had him kicking more 50+ yarders than the other K-State kickers.
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These stats are misleading without something like average kick distance. Gramatica may have only been 77% but the coaches had him kicking more 50+ yarders than the other K-State kickers.
And more 60+ yarders for that matter.
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"Geary doesn't look good at all"-people who have been at practice
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Our OLine must be a bunch of studs this year!!
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These stats are misleading without something like average kick distance. Gramatica may have only been 77% but the coaches had him kicking more 50+ yarders than the other K-State kickers.
And average wind speed and at what direction.
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For the record:
Jack Cantele XP 80/82 FG 28/36 77.8%
Anthony Cantele XP 118/120 FG 37/48 77.1%
Joe Rheem XP 177/187 FG 38/50 76.0%
Jamie Rheem XP 135/138 FG 39/49 79.6%
Martin Grammatica XP 187/192 FG 54/70 77.1%
Sebastian Janikowski XP 126/129 FG 66/83 79.5%
Ka'Imi Fairbairn XP 209/214 FG 68/89 76.4%
dumbasscity.com
That is pretty great. Out of curiosity, would you be able to show how this information and also show how they did on kicks greater than 40 yards?
The stats came from sports-reference.com and no that info isn't provided. I hope you don't think I listed those players to show that Jack Cantele is as good of a kicker as Martin Gramatica and Sebastian Janikowski. Percentage from 40+ has no relevance to my larger point although I do recall Jack being very good from his very limited attempts from 40+.
He shouldn't be penalized for the fact that his coach is increasingly more risk averse in every single aspect of running a football team with each passing day, nor should Martin be penalized for playing on dominant teams that didn't afford him the opportunities to attempt late FGs in game tying or winning situations.
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apparently players hate the crap out of coach cox the linebacker coach. like a lot. it's why there were grumblings that will davis was transferring in january and probably why he's going to transfer after he graduates this semester.
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apparently players hate the crap out of coach cox the linebacker coach. like a lot. it's why there were grumblings that will davis was transferring in january and probably why he's going to transfer after he graduates this semester.
that kinda sucks.
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I love it...you know it's been a long off season (and that basketball sucked) when we are arguing about kickers in April. Not knocking anyone, I love it, keep on keeping on!
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These stats are misleading without something like average kick distance. Gramatica may have only been 77% but the coaches had him kicking more 50+ yarders than the other K-State kickers.
And average wind speed and at what direction.
African or European?
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apparently players hate the crap out of coach cox the linebacker coach. like a lot. it's why there were grumblings that will davis was transferring in january and probably why he's going to transfer after he graduates this semester.
Fairly sure I posted that a few years ago. I sitting near 2 players waiting for a class and they were talking about how they hated cox. They also liked hayes tho
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Any insider tidbits about how players feel about OL coach Charlie Dickey? Like? Sort of like? Don't like? Hate?!? Feed the freaks.
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Rumblings point to sort of like
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Any insider tidbits about how players feel about OL coach Charlie Dickey? Like? Sort of like? Don't like? Hate?!? Feed the freaks.
dickey is very well liked, probably most liked if i was a betting man.
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Recap of the last 7 pages:
- pringle is good
- ertz may start
- geary may suck now
- our defense is trash / we have no dline (again)
- some bullshit discussion on kickers
v depressing/underwhelming tidbits overall :thumbs:
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also you won't get to see Thompson tomorrow
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also you won't get to see Thompson tomorrow
why
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also you won't get to see Thompson tomorrow
SkettiBrained already!?
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also you won't get to see Thompson tomorrow
why
redshirt i assume
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Well yeah, but you can still play in the spring game, right?
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I totally already forgot how the spring game was at SKC last year.
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Only time I've ever been in that stadium :themoreyouknow.gif:
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Well yeah, but you can still play in the spring game, right?
i mean sure i guess, but you know snyds gonna snyds. cant really recall a player playing in the spring game knowing he was going to redshirt but i could be wrong.
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no it's an injury. just not a huge deal because he was going to redshirt anyway. unless, ya know, last year happens again.
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no it's an injury. just not a huge deal because he was going to redshirt anyway. unless, ya know, last year happens again.
i mean obviously wtf? how does this crap keep happening?
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Our QB situation is just terrible.... Hubenor, bad knee ertz and Delton. Later 2016 season
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i'd love it if we adjusted our offense so that it didn't murder qb's who couldn't handle it. but we won't.
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Delton could be good tho
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Delton could be good tho
i mean he was clearly our best qb at the spring game last year, obviously that doesnt mean crap tho because coaches and stuff
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apparently players hate the crap out of coach cox the linebacker coach. like a lot. it's why there were grumblings that will davis was transferring in january and probably why he's going to transfer after he graduates this semester.
Mike Cox is really a perfect fit on this staff. Who needs a young talented coach? We have a guy who was fired for letting Baylor score 67 in a bowl game.
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apparently players hate the crap out of coach cox the linebacker coach. like a lot. it's why there were grumblings that will davis was transferring in january and probably why he's going to transfer after he graduates this semester.
Mike Cox is really a perfect fit on this staff. Who needs a young talented coach? We have a guy who was fired for letting Baylor score 67 in a bowl game.
Mike Cox was part of Nick Holt's staff while at UW, and Nick Holt is one of the most unpleasant humans on this earth. His son was a student in my friend's composition course at UW, and Mr. Holt and son both called my friend a "dyke" for not giving the kid the grade they wanted. Holt even emailed her demanding a meeting, which my friend was sure to let him know that discussing grades with parents of adult, human college-age people is not only illegal, but also just silly.
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I don't have any tidbits, other than the Frantz kid has no toe nails and his skin on his feet is like all falling off and stuff, but...............remember that time when Coffman through for like 800 yards in the spring game and we was all jazzed for the season............... :sdeek:
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Spoiler alert: There's a coach on every coaching staff that players hate.
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I have a tidbit you guys
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I don't have any tidbits, other than the Frantz kid has no toe nails and his skin on his feet is like all falling off and stuff, but...............remember that time when Coffman through for like 800 yards in the spring game and we was all jazzed for the season............... :sdeek:
No one gets jazzed after the spring game... unless they're a dope.
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I know some dopes.
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not a tidbit, but i'm seeing players out there with dreads showing. is that new?
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My tidbit is Pringle is really rough ridin' good
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not a tidbit, but i'm seeing players out there with dreads showing. is that new?
I noticed that too. Hoping it isn't just a practice thing. Lighten up Bill...
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https://twitter.com/KellisRobinett/status/724310137452666880
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Offense
QB - Jesse Ertz, Alex Delton/Joe Hubener
RB - Charles Jones, Dalvin Warmack/Justin Silmon
WR - Byron Pringle, Corey Sutton
WR - Deante Burton, Isaiah Zuber
WR - Dominique Heath, Zach Reuter
LT - Scott Frantz, Bryce Fitzner
LG - Will Ash, Ajahne Brager
C - Dalton Risner, Reid Najvar
RG - Terrale Johnson, Tyler Mitchell
RT - Abdul Beecham, Alec Ruth
TE - Dayton Valentine, Blaise Gammon
Defense
DB - Dante Barnett, Brogan Barry
DB - Kendall Adams, Jesse Mack
CB - Duke Shelley, Ryan Mack
CB - Johnathan Durham, Tevin Geddis
LB - Elijah Lee, Justin Hughes
LB - Will Davis, Sam Sizelove
LB - Charmeachealle Moore, Cameron Morgan
DE - Jordan Willis, C.J. Reese
DE - Tanner Wood, Reggie Walker
DT - Will Geary, Craig Settles
DT - Trey Dishon, Mitch Copeland
Special Teams
K - Matthew McCrane
P - Nick Walsh
KR - Byron Pringle
PR - Dominique Heath
Read more here: http://www.kansas.com/sports/college/big-12/kansas-state/k-stated/article73653537.html#storylink=cpy
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Offense
QB - Jesse Ertz, Alex Delton/Joe Hubener
RB - Charles Jones, Dalvin Warmack/Justin Silmon
WR - Byron Pringle, Corey Sutton
WR - Deante Burton, Isaiah Zuber
WR - Dominique Heath, Zach Reuter
LT - Scott Frantz, Bryce Fitzner
LG - Will Ash, Ajahne Brager
C - Dalton Risner, Reid Najvar
RG - Terrale Johnson, Tyler Mitchell
RT - Abdul Beecham, Alec Ruth
TE - Dayton Valentine, Blaise Gammon
Defense
DB - Dante Barnett, Brogan Barry
DB - Kendall Adams, Jesse Mack
CB - Duke Shelley, Ryan Mack
CB - Johnathan Durham, Tevin Geddis
LB - Elijah Lee, Justin Hughes
LB - Will Davis, Sam Sizelove
LB - Charmeachealle Moore, Cameron Morgan
DE - Jordan Willis, C.J. Reese
DE - Tanner Wood, Reggie Walker
DT - Will Geary, Craig Settles
DT - Trey Dishon, Mitch Copeland
Special Teams
K - Matthew McCrane
P - Nick Walsh
KR - Byron Pringle
PR - Dominique Heath
Read more here: http://www.kansas.com/sports/college/big-12/kansas-state/k-stated/article73653537.html#storylink=cpy
100% Chance that Ertz will not make it through the non con portion of our schedule and we end up with Hubener as our QB.
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Did Sutton really look that good? A lot of talk about him not red shirting. Also, you probably couldn't see his dreads, could you? :frown:
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Did Sutton really look that good? A lot of talk about him not red shirting. Also, you probably couldn't see his dreads, could you? :frown:
He definitely was impressive. Not sure about dreads.
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Offense
QB - Jesse Ertz, Alex Delton/Joe Hubener
RB - Charles Jones, Dalvin Warmack/Justin Silmon
WR - Byron Pringle, Corey Sutton
WR - Deante Burton, Isaiah Zuber
WR - Dominique Heath, Zach Reuter
LT - Scott Frantz, Bryce Fitzner
LG - Will Ash, Ajahne Brager
C - Dalton Risner, Reid Najvar
RG - Terrale Johnson, Tyler Mitchell
RT - Abdul Beecham, Alec Ruth
TE - Dayton Valentine, Blaise Gammon
Defense
DB - Dante Barnett, Brogan Barry
DB - Kendall Adams, Jesse Mack
CB - Duke Shelley, Ryan Mack
CB - Johnathan Durham, Tevin Geddis
LB - Elijah Lee, Justin Hughes
LB - Will Davis, Sam Sizelove
LB - Charmeachealle Moore, Cameron Morgan
DE - Jordan Willis, C.J. Reese
DE - Tanner Wood, Reggie Walker
DT - Will Geary, Craig Settles
DT - Trey Dishon, Mitch Copeland
Special Teams
K - Matthew McCrane
P - Nick Walsh
KR - Byron Pringle
PR - Dominique Heath
Read more here: http://www.kansas.com/sports/college/big-12/kansas-state/k-stated/article73653537.html#storylink=cpy
100% Chance that Ertz will not make it through the non con portion of our schedule and we end up with Hubener as our QB.
Some names on the two deep I don't even recognize. DL, CB, and Oline look maybe that the greatest. Though we've got that Breontae Matthews guy coming late for the line, plus a couple DB's. QB/WR/RB seem improved. LB is okay. Safties ok. DE potentially salty. Special teams look fantastic. Pringle as WR/Wildcat QB/KR :drool: Guys, we may not even be terrible.
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We'll be improved, and maybe surprisingly decent. Not sure if the record will show it, but the team will definitely be better than last year. I was happy to find out Pringle is only going to be a SO. I though since he was Juco transfer he'd be a JR, but having a whole other year is going to be awesome.
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We'll be improved, and maybe surprisingly decent. Not sure if the record will show it, but the team will definitely be better than last year. I was happy to find out Pringle is only going to be a SO. I though since he was Juco transfer he'd be a JR, but having a whole other year is going to be awesome.
Agree that the record will not be any reflection of KSU.
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I mean, only a few pages ago SD dropped the only real worth while tidbit....
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Offense
QB - Jesse Ertz, Alex Delton/Joe Hubener
RB - Charles Jones, Dalvin Warmack/Justin Silmon
WR - Byron Pringle, Corey Sutton
WR - Deante Burton, Isaiah Zuber
WR - Dominique Heath, Zach Reuter
LT - Scott Frantz, Bryce Fitzner
LG - Will Ash, Ajahne Brager
C - Dalton Risner, Reid Najvar
RG - Terrale Johnson, Tyler Mitchell
RT - Abdul Beecham, Alec Ruth
TE - Dayton Valentine, Blaise Gammon
Defense
DB - Dante Barnett, Brogan Barry
DB - Kendall Adams, Jesse Mack
CB - Duke Shelley, Ryan Mack
CB - Johnathan Durham, Tevin Geddis
LB - Elijah Lee, Justin Hughes
LB - Will Davis, Sam Sizelove
LB - Charmeachealle Moore, Cameron Morgan
DE - Jordan Willis, C.J. Reese
DE - Tanner Wood, Reggie Walker
DT - Will Geary, Craig Settles
DT - Trey Dishon, Mitch Copeland
Special Teams
K - Matthew McCrane
P - Nick Walsh
KR - Byron Pringle
PR - Dominique Heath
Read more here: http://www.kansas.com/sports/college/big-12/kansas-state/k-stated/article73653537.html#storylink=cpy
1. There should be a comma between Delton and Bazooka Joe. He lost the QB job to a wide receiver, if Delton isn't clearly better he should transfer to a D2 school, like a real D2 school like FHSU, not a FCS school.
2. Not sure why we have three WR spots listed, #familyfullback will play more snaps than not.
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We've had 3wrs listed for 20 years
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our defensive line is going to suck complete crap
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our defensive line is going to suck complete crap
Best case scenario is "serviceable".
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our defensive line is going to suck complete crap
our dt's will but de seems ok :dunno:
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our defensive line is going to suck complete crap
our dt's will but de seems ok :dunno:
I think Dishon has the measurables to be good at some point, but who knows if that will come together?
Geary better get his crap together, and this JUCO guy better be good. Losing English was a huge blow.
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where's Hood at?
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where's Hood at?
Kind of a long story, m^2. He's a goodbuddy of mine.
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our defensive line is going to suck complete crap
our dt's will but de seems ok :dunno:
wrong, probably.
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our defensive line is going to suck complete crap
our dt's will but de seems ok :dunno:
wrong, probably.
Chances are slim, maybe.
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http://espn.go.com/blog/big12/post/_/id/111619/spring-depth-chart-breakdown-kansas-state-wildcats
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I can't do another season of BJ. Not up to it
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:dubious:
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http://espn.go.com/blog/big12/post/_/id/111619/spring-depth-chart-breakdown-kansas-state-wildcats
our big fat greek fullback
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not insider but Klein's taking a job with Northern Iowa
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not insider but Klein's taking a job with Northern Iowa
What position? Good for Him!
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QB coach
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That's great for him. I hope he turns into a very good coach
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Great news for him
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great news for everyone
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Cody small quit
https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/maple/125707
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More like Cody Smallamountofworkethic
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Cody small quit
https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/maple/125707
Meh.
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Legitimately didn't know we had someone on the team named Cody Smalls.
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"You're killing me, Smalls"
j/k not really
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Cody small quit
https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/maple/125707
#myguy Dayton Valentine :cool:
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More like Cody Smallamountofworkethic
:excited:
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Anybody got any morsels (preferably not something involving an injury to one of our defensive tackles)?
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We have 27 days 14 hours 42 min and 1 second until our first game
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mocat can you check this please ^^^^^
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Anybody got any morsels (preferably not something involving an injury to one of our defensive tackles)?
well, I've heard from some insiders that we are completely mumped at the QB position
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Anybody got any morsels (preferably not something involving an injury to one of our defensive tackles)?
well, I've heard from some insiders that we are completely mumped at the QB position
Meh like that's an important position or something.
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Hey SD, is your insider this rough ridin' guy? Because I bet not! :gocho:
Ran into one of the K-State players I know at lunch
today and he said Ertz is a total stud at QB. We've heard this previously from various GPC staff but hearing it in a conversation directly from a player and with the strong conviction and voice inflection, provided some increased confidence that he may indeed become a special player. Players love his leadership as well, something that was missing last year.
He obviously needs to stay healthy and his O-Line does need to develop and mature quickly (another comment that supports what we've heard previously) but Jesse sounds like the real deal!
He also said Alex has great potential at QB but that Jesse is, without question, the number one guy. Not sure what this means for Alex longer term.
K-State will seemingly need to find a way to get Delton on the field to keep a guy who was thinking he was going to be getting a lot of playing time his true Freshman year feeling like this is still the right place for him. The latter comments are my own thoughts not necessarily this player's.
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I am legitimately not confident that he will survive the first half against Stanford's D.
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I am legitimately not confident that he will survive the first half against Stanford's D.
We're gonna whip some Stanford ass
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I am legitimately not confident that he will survive the first half against Stanford's D.
We're gonna whip some Stanford ass
probably not, but i hope so!
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Anybody got any morsels (preferably not something involving an injury to one of our defensive tackles)?
well, I've heard from some insiders that we are completely mumped at the QB position
completely mumped as in 2015 completely mumped or worse completely mumped. i find it hard to believe it's any worse.
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Well, it's the same QBs from 2015 minus our best one who was also our best WR so....
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Didnt stanford lose to northwestern last year ? :lol:
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Didnt stanford lose to northwestern last year ? :lol:
Body clocks tho.
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Anybody got any morsels (preferably not something involving an injury to one of our defensive tackles)?
well, I've heard from some insiders that we are completely mumped at the QB position
Why do I have this same feeling.(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2FgoEMAW.com%2Fforum%2FSmileys%2FgoEMAW%2Ficon44.gif&hash=0dd20175d5030354a02d61a3bc4fa7d3eeac8a9d)
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I honestly feel bad for Ertz. With his knee problems and our o-line plus our style of offense going up against the Stanford d-line in the first game, it's pretty much the worst possible scenario for him.
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Him playing any contact sport is pretty much the worst case scenario though
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Like Samuel L Jacksons character from unbreakable
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It will be a true test of character to see if he runs the weak side option that Del calls on 2nd and 8 knowing he may never walk again.
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anyone have any we are better across the board and will be really good tidbits? gpc c/p's welcome
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anyone have any we are better across the board and will be really good tidbits? gpc c/p's welcome
i think ertz will be good and we will be better
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Well, it's the same QBs from 2015 minus our best one who was also our best WR so....
:facepalm: :dunno:
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Like Samuel L Jacksons character from unbreakable
Mr. Glass
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If ertz completes 50%+ of his passes and our offense doesn't go for minus yardage every 4th play (like last year), we'll win 8 games.
WR, DB, and QB will be a lot better this year. The oline isn't as green as it appears.
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Fwiw someone who has seen every practice in this short fall camp said this could be the worst offensive line in 10+ years. A weird statement to make because he has only been around the program for 3 years, but a statement that was made nonetheless.
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Also fwiw Mike Moore told me "we are going to be very good" a few nights ago.
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Also fwiw Mike Moore told me "we are going to be very good" a few nights ago.
how was his voice inflection?
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Fwiw someone who has seen every practice in this short fall camp said this could be the worst offensive line in 10+ years. A weird statement to make because he has only been around the program for 3 years, but a statement that was made nonetheless.
This with the qb info could make a very lolzy yr.
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Old mans at 193 right? Need to get 7 at any cost necessary.
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Fwiw someone who has seen every practice in this short fall camp said this could be the worst offensive line in 10+ years. A weird statement to make because he has only been around the program for 3 years, but a statement that was made nonetheless.
Good thing practice is only 2 days old.....call off the season
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we have these things!
https://twitter.com/KsuSwagTeam/status/761963782511800321
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Woah
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Also fwiw Mike Moore told me "we are going to be very good" a few nights ago.
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Well, it's the same QBs from 2015 minus our best one who was also our best WR so....
lulz ok sd ok
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Also fwiw Mike Moore told me "we are going to be very good" a few nights ago.
CASE CLOSED
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Our coach is old af and has Alzheimer's so that could make it tough to win many games
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Our coach is old af and has Alzheimer's so that could make it tough to win many games
Something tells me you've never been around Alzheimer's ppl before.
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Our coach is old af and has Alzheimer's so that could make it tough to win many games
Something tells me you've never been around Alzheimer's ppl before.
I have and I can say Bill doesn't have it.
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I can take carnesing, but after I moved my grandma a month ago here to KC into some place that doesn't make me comfortable, I won't pass on that shot.
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I like people with Alzheimers a lot more than message board trolls.
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This is about to turn into a good old fashioned alzheimers off!
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I like people with Alzheimers a lot more than message board trolls.
Our coach is an old man w dementia, how is that trolling?
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I like people with Alzheimers a lot more than message board trolls.
Our coach is an old man w dementia, how is that trolling?
Let me help everyone out on this on.....Carnes, you were wrong when you said he he has Alzheimers, but right when you insinuated that he has lost "it" mentally, and is no longer the genius that made us great.
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he legitimately also sometimes can't remember stuff from a few minutes ago and gets confused a lot. we all will at that age though.
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Dax is already kind of there, so this really hits close to home for me.
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he legitimately also sometimes can't remember stuff from a few minutes ago and gets confused a lot. we all will at that age though.
Basically, everything he signs at this point is a collectors item. He doesn't have long.
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I think we're due for an 04' type year.
LB corps attached to a team of nothing else.
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he legitimately also sometimes can't remember stuff from a few minutes ago and gets confused a lot. we all will at that age though.
OT, but just think, we're about to elect a president that will be close to that age. Personally, I would rather have an old person running our football team, than a old person running this country.
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he legitimately also sometimes can't remember stuff from a few minutes ago and gets confused a lot. we all will at that age though.
OT, but just think, we're about to elect a president that will be close to that age. Personally, I would rather have an old person running our football team, than a old person running this country.
YES KATDADDY!
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he legitimately also sometimes can't remember stuff from a few minutes ago and gets confused a lot. we all will at that age though.
OT, but just think, we're about to elect a president that will be close to that age. Personally, I would rather have an old person running our football team, than a old person running this country.
YES KATDADDY!
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Like Samuel L Jacksons character from unbreakable
Mr. Glass
baseball player iirc corretly
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you guys are not being v. positive and i can't pump gpc sunshine since i'm banned until march 2017. still think we're winning 10 games.
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Relative to the world of even just middle america, if you even know who jesse ertz is, you're a key football insider.
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anyone have any we are better across the board and will be really good tidbits? gpc c/p's welcome
Minimum of 7 regular season wins
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Was talking to some folks about the start of college football the other day. About 0% of them cared much about BIG 12 expansion because they think we are the worst conference in the P5. That aside, they also said that Stanford kind of sucks and only has one good player. . . .so I think we have a shot!! :excited:
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Was talking to some folks about the start of college football the other day. About 0% of them cared much about BIG 12 expansion because they think we are the worst conference in the P5. That aside, they also said that Stanford kind of sucks and only has one good player. . . .so I think we have a shot!! :excited:
Sounds like those DC cats don't know much about cfb.
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Was talking to some folks about the start of college football the other day. About 0% of them cared much about BIG 12 expansion because they think we are the worst conference in the P5. That aside, they also said that Stanford kind of sucks and only has one good player. . . .so I think we have a shot!! :excited:
Sounds like those DC cats don't know much about cfb.
Butthurt ivey's or ACC'ers, I bet.
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Was talking to some folks about the start of college football the other day. About 0% of them cared much about BIG 12 expansion because they think we are the worst conference in the P5. That aside, they also said that Stanford kind of sucks and only has one good player. . . .so I think we have a shot!! :excited:
Sounds like those DC cats don't know much about cfb.
Butthurt ivey's or ACC'ers, I bet.
Maryland fan, Notre Dame fan (who went to Richmond), and Vandy fan, with other east coasters around. I'd love for a good bowl season so I could just mush the BIG 12 in their faces.
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Well any Maryland is going to be mad because outside of one bball run, they don't do much given their demographics.
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Who was that forward they had that they called The Helicopter? He was extremely entertaining to watch.
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Bump.
I guess no news is good news.
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was it last year coleman said we had the best wr corps he'd had and dimel said our te's were equally awesome? anyway, on the gpc media day stuff coleman seems to admit we sucked last year and are much improved.
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was it last year coleman said we had the best wr corps he'd had and dimel said our te's were equally awesome? anyway, on the gpc media day stuff coleman seems to admit we sucked last year and are much improved.
I don't remember Coleman saying that last year. I do remember Dimel gushing about our QB's, but he probably wasn't anticipating losing Ertz, Delton, and Banks for the season.
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Projected depth chart from another site
OFFENSE
QB 16 Jesse Ertz 6-3 212 Jr.
? 8 Joe Hubener 6-5 212 Sr.
(or) 5 Alex Delton 6-0 201 Fr.
RB 24 Charles Jones 5-10 208 Sr.
?(or) 32 Justin Silmon 5-10 198 So.
?(or) 3 Dalvin Warmack 5-8 187 So.
?(or) 34 Alex Barnes 6-1 221 Fr.
FB 38 Winston Dimel 6-1 235 So.
30 Chase Johnston 6-3 226 Fr.
WR 9 Byron Pringle 6-2 205 So.
12 Corey Sutton 6-1 200 Fr.
WR 6 Deante Burton 6-2 209 Sr.
15 Zach Reuter 6-3 194 So.
WR 7 Isaiah Zuber 6-0 180 Fr.
4 Dominique Heath 5-9 175 So.
TE 88 Dayton Valentine 6-4 254 So.
89 Blaise Gammon 6-7 263 Fr.
(or) 87 Nick Lenners 6-4 244 Fr.
LT 74 Scott Frantz 6-5 293 Fr.
78 Bryce Fitzner 6-7 292 So.
LG 56 Terrale Johnson 6-1 312- Sr.
70 Will Ash 6-3 314 Sr.
C 71 Dalton Risner 6-5 300 So.
79 Adam Holtorf 6-4 291 Fr.
RG 71 Reid Najvar 6-4 295 Jr.
76 Ajahne Brager 6-3 303 Jr..
RT 61 Abdul Beecham 6-3 304 So.
(or) 58 Breontae Matthews 6-5 304 Jr.
DEFENSE
LE 51 Reggie Walker 6-2 235 Fr.
?(or) 34 Tanner Wood 6-5 263 Jr.
DT 92 Matt Seiwert 6-3 285 Jr.
(or) 95 Ray Price 6-2 290 Jr.
NT 60 Will Geary 6-0 298 Jr.
98 Craig Settles Jr. 6-3 313 Sr.
RE 75 Jordan Willis 6-5 258 Sr.
93 Davis Clark 6-2 260 Jr..
WLB 41 Sam Sizelove 6-3 223 So.
3 Elijah Sullivan 6-1 220 Fr.
?(or) 57 Colborn Couchman 6-2 223 Sr.
MLB 52 Charmeachealle Moore 6-0 221 Jr.
35 Will Davis 6-0 224 Jr.
SLB 9 Elijah Lee 6-3 218 So.
58 Trent Tanking 6-2 220 So.
CB 2 D.J. Reed 5-9 188 So.
7 Cedric Dozier 5-10 180 Sr.
?(or) 6 Jonathan Durham 6-0 181 Fr.
SS 22 Dante Barnett 6-1 193 Sr.
18 Brogan Barry 6-2 198 Jr.
FS 21 Kendall Adams 6-1 217 So.
?(or) 29 Sean Newlan 6-2 204 Jr.
CB 8 Duke Shelley 5-9 175 So.
5 Jesse Mack 6-0 180 Jr.
NB 10 Donnie Starks 6-0 180 Sr.
13 Ryan Mack 5-9 184 Jr.
SPECIAL TEAMS
PK 16 Matthew McCrane 5-10 165 Jr.
40 Ian Patterson 6-0 210 Sr.
P 14 Nick Walsh 5-11 202 Jr.
9 Mitch Lochbihler 6-7 240 Jr.
LS 43 Drew Scott 6-2 210 Jr.
38 Dalton Harman 6-2 243 So.
PR 4 Dominique Heath 5-9 175 Fr.
9 Byron Pringle 6-2 205 So.
KR 3 Dalvin Warmack 5-8 187 So.
4 Dominique Heath 5-9 175 So
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Reggie Walker ahead of Tanner. Interesting.
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we are solid at PK
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Reggie Walker ahead of Tanner. Interesting.
or
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Reggie Walker ahead of Tanner. Interesting.
Ran with the 1s for a majority of the spring game. Made a few plays too IIRC. Meshak 2.0
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I am liking the looks of our WRs, LBs, and special teams.
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Reggie Walker ahead of Tanner. Interesting.
Ran with the 1s for a majority of the spring game. Made a few plays too IIRC. Meshak 2.0
Nice. Also, sad that Tanner hasn't shown much yet. Wasn't he a four star?
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i'd love to see Elijah Sullivan take over the starting spot WLB.
Elijah, Charm, Elijah...yes please
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Reggie Walker ahead of Tanner. Interesting.
Ran with the 1s for a majority of the spring game. Made a few plays too IIRC. Meshak 2.0
Nice. Also, sad that Tanner hasn't shown much yet. Wasn't he a four star?
Yes
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Reggie had some really good offers himself too.
https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/maple/157324
Arizona State, Arkansas, Florida, Miami, TTech, etc.
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Reggie Walker ahead of Tanner. Interesting.
Ran with the 1s for a majority of the spring game. Made a few plays too IIRC. Meshak 2.0
Nice. Also, sad that Tanner hasn't shown much yet. Wasn't he a four star?
I mean he played behind a very good player last year
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The class of some of our linebackers looks off, no? Isn't Lee a JR? and shouldn't Moore and Davis be SRs?
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The class of some of our linebackers looks off, no? Isn't Lee a JR? and shouldn't Moore and Davis be SRs?
You are correct
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Yeah, fitz used a template and forgot to adjust some things.
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Better than nothing tho. Will take.
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Woods was hurt in the spring, but if Walker is running even with him that gets me pretty excited about Walker. Woods was pretty decent when he got to play last year.
Frantz must be pretty bad ass to have Beechum and Mathews at right tackle.
Heath isn't even starting at WR.....serious upgrade at WR coming this year.
Only disappointment for me is no Trey Dishon in top four at dtackle.....did he get hurt?? I might have missed it.....who the hell is Ray Price?
Also, love our starting corners being only sophomores.....them plus Adams is going to make for a dirty secondary down the road.
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guys, that's fitz's guess at a depth chart.
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I thought it was a surprise Will Davis wasn't starting.
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I thought it was a surprise Will Davis wasn't starting.
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I would imagine we see Will Davis in the middle against Stanford because of the type of offense they run. But come conference play against more Spread teams, I would imagine Moore and Lee see the most of the snaps at LB since we typically play with only 2 LBs.
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our wr's look not terrible. we also actually recruited over a couple guys which was weird to see.
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Better than nothing tho. Will take.
makes you think
*jeans*
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You mean to tell me that we have linebackers named Will, Mike, and Sam and you're not even going to consider playing them at the Will, Mike, and Sam positions, respectively? Why the eff did we recruit these guys then?? Christ almighty.
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^^ Someone please write a "who's on first" skit for this scenario.
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Donnie Starks is in his what, 10th season? He gets 20 tackles in spring game every year
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not insidery but tweets from fan appreciation day have risner at tackle, navjar at center and neither of the new juco ol starting. also DJamer reed over dozier at corner and goolsby at safety, not wr. seemed like the major news. any one else who actually went help me out?
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worst offensive line in 10+ years.
:Ughhh:
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Heard the 'Cats are going to be, "sneaky," good.
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:excited:
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our wr's look not terrible. we also actually recruited over a couple guys which was weird to see.
Weird post
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our wr's look not terrible. we also actually recruited over a couple guys which was weird to see.
Weird post
11k posts on an internet message board dedicated to k-state sports, each more insipid than the last.
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You just got carnes'd pvegs
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not insidery but tweets from fan appreciation day have risner at tackle, navjar at center and neither of the new juco ol starting. also DJamer reed over dozier at corner and goolsby at safety, not wr. seemed like the major news. any one else who actually went help me out?
This is all major major news if true.
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Reed was the DB, not Goolsby. Both wear #2.
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Reed was the DB, not Goolsby. Both wear #2.
Kellis reported the Goolsby switch to safety in his article. Others are saying he switched to 20. The guy listed as 20 on the roster is a walkon not on the 105 man roster, so he's not practicing yet and he'll have to switch when he gets here.
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our wr's look not terrible. we also actually recruited over a couple guys which was weird to see.
Weird post
We literally haven't played a game so maybe hold off on these comments
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Can't wait to see Pringle ball out. Just hope Nertz can get it to him regularly.
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not insidery but tweets from fan appreciation day have risner at tackle, navjar at center and neither of the new juco ol starting. also DJamer reed over dozier at corner and goolsby at safety, not wr. seemed like the major news. any one else who actually went help me out?
This is all major major news if true.
Was Risner at right or left tackle?
I remember in the Alamo Bowl what a lift we got when Finney moved out to tackle as opposed to Kleinsorge. If the tackles are that bad, it may make us better overall, but Risner is pretty dang good, so maybe I'm reading too much into it.
I'd be interested to know what the whole line looked like.
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not insidery but tweets from fan appreciation day have risner at tackle, navjar at center and neither of the new juco ol starting. also DJamer reed over dozier at corner and goolsby at safety, not wr. seemed like the major news. any one else who actually went help me out?
This is all major major news if true.
Was Risner at right or left tackle?
I remember in the Alamo Bowl what a lift we got when Finney moved out to tackle as opposed to Kleinsorge. If the tackles are that bad, it may make us better overall, but Risner is pretty dang good, so maybe I'm reading too much into it.
I'd be interested to know what the whole line looked like.
Right tackle
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Left Tackle - Scott Frantz starter, backup - Abdul Beecham
Left Guard - ??? They rotated Bryce Fitnezer and Tyler Mitchell a lot and Breontae Matthews a handful of plays. I say this position is still wide open.
Center - Reid Najvar starter, backup Adam Holtorf (Dalton Risener took no snaps at center today)
Right Guard - Terrale Johnson starter, backup - Will Ash
Right Tackle - Dalton Risener starter, backup - Alec Ruth
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Just a bunch of 2/3 star studs!
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There doesn't seem to be anything extreme about any of this year's tidbits :dunno:
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they extremely suck
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Ok, so one thing is extreme.
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a little bird told me that the cats should be "fun to watch," and that we should expect Snyder to "really open up the playbook" in the Stanford game, as that's a game he wants to win. who knows if it could be true? personally, I hope it is.
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a little bird told me that the cats should be "fun to watch," and that we should expect Snyder to "really open up the playbook" in the Stanford game, as that's a game he wants to win. who knows if it could be true? personally, I hope it is.
factoid- stanford's mascot is the cardinal. yet- use your mind's eye and try to picture a bird on their sideline. because that's the only place you would see one, in your mind's eye. because the cardinal mascot is the color cardinal red, not the bird. same bird that told you the "fun to watch" tidbit? could be, only you can answer that questo. i could guess but that's only one man's guess.
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hmm, they sound very denton-y. gross
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I thought Stanford's mascot was some stupid tree.
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2011. except the qb is better and the bounces less lucky.
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I hope Snyder doesn't accidently wear his Stanford windbreaker that night, that will be super embarrassing/awkward.
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I thought Stanford's mascot was some stupid tree.
The actual mascot is the tree, but it's named for the color cardinal red. The mascot is not an official university mascot, tho.
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K-StateO by itself is enough to give the Stanford band about a 3 hour halftime show if they wanted.
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I just love when we open up the playbook and do those wide receiver reverses that go for negative two yards.
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I just love when we open up the playbook and do those wide receiver reverses that go for negative two yards.
Also when said receiver drops the handoff/pitch on the first drive and gets benched for the rest of the season.
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Weird, I like it when those go for lots of yards. Different strokes I guess
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Opening up the playbook just means another qb draw :sdeek:
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a little bird told me that the cats should be "fun to watch," and that we should expect Snyder to "really open up the playbook" in the Stanford game, as that's a game he wants to win. who knows if it could be true? personally, I hope it is.
factoid- stanford's mascot is the cardinal. yet- use your mind's eye and try to picture a bird on their sideline. because that's the only place you would see one, in your mind's eye. because the cardinal mascot is the color cardinal red, not the bird. same bird that told you the "fun to watch" tidbit? could be, only you can answer that questo. i could guess but that's only one man's guess.
This.
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Is Quentin Tarantino still their kicker?
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Is Quentin Tarantino still their kicker?
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I thought Stanford's mascot was some stupid tree.
the tree is incredible fwiw
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:ksu:
“I’ll be here whether it’s the best season we’ve ever had or the worst one.”
"these kids are always nice and polite and ‘yes, sir,’ and ‘thank you, sir.’”
"I think we’re going to have a much-improved team this year”
"I threw away all of my KU gear.”
“I hope we can beat them. It’s a great starting game,” Adair added. “If we can show well on that, we should have a really good season.”
Most K-State fans will watch from afar as the Wildcats look to open the season with an upset, one Mark Gram said isn’t as unlikely as some may think.
“I think they’re going to surprise a lot of people,” Gram said. “I think they may push Stanford. I may be dreaming, but who knows. I’m a glass-half-full kind of guy.”
http://www.kstatesports.com/news/se-fan-appreciation-day-an-attraction-for-all-08-15-2016
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I thought Stanford's mascot was some stupid tree.
the tree is incredible fwiw
incredibly ugly
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I thought Stanford's mascot was some stupid tree.
the tree is incredible fwiw
incredibly ugly
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Maybe I'm taking the bait, but isn't the tree considered the band's mascot?
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I thought Stanford's mascot was some stupid tree.
the tree is incredible fwiw
incredibly ugly
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look at that stud. :love:
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I like the tree. I do not like the band.
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Seems kind of perv-y.
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Reminds me of OPjohn.
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:lol:
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The tree is goofy, but not the worst. Very Stanford0 is such a thing exists. The band though is just a bunch of baby backed bitches.
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Stanford band tries way too hard to be edgy.
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Reminds me of OPjohn.
This is the first thing that came to my mind too!
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Stanford band tries way too hard to be edgy.
I imagine they would get off you lawn if you asked them to.
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I thought Stanford's mascot was some stupid tree.
the tree is incredible fwiw
incredibly ugly
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Maybe I'm taking the bait, but isn't the tree considered the band's mascot?
Yes the tree is made by the band and someone from the band performs as the mascot.
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Stanford tree is a rough ridin' national treasure
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I thought Stanford's mascot was some stupid tree.
The actual mascot is the tree, but it's named for the color cardinal red. The mascot is not an official university mascot, tho.
This. Like Syracuse Orange
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I thought Stanford's mascot was some stupid tree.
The actual mascot is the tree, but it's named for the color cardinal red. The mascot is not an official university mascot, tho.
This. Like Syracuse Orange
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except not like the syracuse orange because they're not named after a color or a fruit, or a tree
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I thought Stanford's mascot was some stupid tree.
The actual mascot is the tree, but it's named for the color cardinal red. The mascot is not an official university mascot, tho.
This. Like Syracuse Orange
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except not like the syracuse orange because they're not named after a color or a fruit, or a tree
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Seems kind of perv-y.
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It's not pervy if it's consensual
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what are we ranked after week 1 if we beat Stanford?
methinks I would guess 18 or 19. just a little methinks for you all to chew on.
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If it's by less than 10 we'll jump up to #20-ish. If it's by 10+ we'll be in the top 15.
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THOSE ARE ALL A SLAP IN THE FACE!
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depth chart is out! trey dishon and reggie walker starting. jones and silmon 1/2. zuber is 4th wr. coleman will not redshirt. pls more analysis from hfbiq!
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How is it insider if it's publicly posted?
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And already in a thread of ours. :D
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I hope we don't stink it up on friday
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How is it insider if it's publicly posted?
IT'S NOT EMO JUST WANTED TO TALK CAT FOOTBALL
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:lol:
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depth chart is out! trey dishon and reggie walker starting. jones and silmon 1/2. zuber is 4th wr. coleman will not redshirt. pls more analysis from hfbiq!
What?
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I am so disappointed in this year's tidbits. Its embarrassing.
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depth chart is out! trey dishon and reggie walker starting. jones and silmon 1/2. zuber is 4th wr. coleman will not redshirt. pls more analysis from hfbiq!
What?
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Guessing he means Sutton, and not that one of our coaches will not redshirt? No idea
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depth chart is out! trey dishon and reggie walker starting. jones and silmon 1/2. zuber is 4th wr. coleman will not redshirt. pls more analysis from hfbiq!
What?
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Guessing he means Sutton, and not that one of our coaches will not redshirt? No idea
Walker isn't starting either..
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Walker isn't starting either..
Technically he might start since it says "or"
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depth chart is out! trey dishon and reggie walker starting. jones and silmon 1/2. zuber is 4th wr. coleman will not redshirt. pls more analysis from hfbiq!
What?
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Guessing he means Sutton, and not that one of our coaches will not redshirt? No idea
Walker isn't starting either..
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sorry, yeah, wrote this over lunch. i meant sutton, and kellis tweeted walker would start. snyder said it in the presser even though he's listed as an "or" with wood on the depth chart.
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Did a little examining and we have nine cc transfer players on the two deep, three are starters, and Settles and Price will probably see the field a decent amount. I'd also not be surprised if Dozier sees the field.
Is this normal, less than usual, or more than usual when it comes to K-State playing CC transfers?
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Did a little examining and we have nine cc transfer players on the two deep, three are starters, and Settles and Price will probably see the field a decent amount. I'd also not be surprised if Dozier sees the field.
Is this normal, less than usual, or more than usual when it comes to K-State playing CC transfers?
Dozier isn't a CC transfer. He's a grad transfer fro Cal.
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Did a little examining and we have nine cc transfer players on the two deep, three are starters, and Settles and Price will probably see the field a decent amount. I'd also not be surprised if Dozier sees the field.
Is this normal, less than usual, or more than usual when it comes to K-State playing CC transfers?
Historically, it's probably about average.
Recently, it's probably higher than usual.
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Did a little examining and we have nine cc transfer players on the two deep, three are starters, and Settles and Price will probably see the field a decent amount. I'd also not be surprised if Dozier sees the field.
Is this normal, less than usual, or more than usual when it comes to K-State playing CC transfers?
Dozier isn't a CC transfer. He's a grad transfer fro Cal.
My apologies, you are correct. So only eight CC players on the two deep.
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Talked to some people at Fort Osage this weekend. They said Skylar Thompson thinks he (referring to himself) is by far the best QB that K-State has. Said that if he knew the playbook better he would be the starter.
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Purrrfect little nugget right there
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The LHC Bill Snyder playbook will go down in history as the Dallas motel room of the program.
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Part of me wants to pull his redshirt, but part of me thinks it would be a huge waste if there's a chance he can get a full 4 years under a better coaching staff.
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Part of me wants to pull his redshirt, but part of me thinks it would be a huge waste if there's a chance he can get a full 4 years under a better coaching staff.
If he only knows 25% of the playbook and we were to pull his redshirt, I don't think he would do any worse than Jeffy Ertz did on Saturday. My dead grandma can audible into a -1 yard qb draw.
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Part of me wants to pull his redshirt, but part of me thinks it would be a huge waste if there's a chance he can get a full 4 years under a better coaching staff.
If he only knows 25% of the playbook and we were to pull his redshirt, I don't think he would do any worse than Jeffy Ertz did on Saturday. My dead grandma can audible into a -1 yard qb draw.
Yeah. I guess the odds of Currie actually hiring a competent staff to replace Bill are low enough that we should probably just pull the redshirt. If he's even an average Big 12 QB, we could win this crappy conference.
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Talked to some people at Fort Osage this weekend. They said Skylar Thompson thinks he (referring to himself) is by far the best QB that K-State has. Said that if he knew the playbook better he would be the starter.
I hope he is better than what we saw this week. But it won't matter who they put in there if we keep calling plays like that. And how much of the playbook do you need to know if you only run 4 different plays? I am tired of hearing about how big the playbook is. Maybe shorten the damn playbook and play the players that are the best and not the ones that can memorize 1000 different plays even though we only run a few.
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Is Skylar racist towards Skylar with that coded "Playbook knowledge" dig? Disgusting.
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Is Skylar racist towards Skylar with that coded "Playbook knowledge" dig? Disgusting.
Talked to some people at Fort Osage this weekend. They said Skylar Thompson thinks he (referring to himself) is by far the best QB that K-State has. Said that if he knew the playbook better he would be the starter.
I hope he is better than what we saw this week. But it won't matter who they put in there if we keep calling plays like that. And how much of the playbook do you need to know if you only run 4 different plays? I am tired of hearing about how big the playbook is. Maybe shorten the damn playbook and play the players that are the best and not the ones that can memorize 1000 different plays even though we only run a few.
Part of me thinks the whole "not knowing the playbook" thing is what they train him to say. The coaches also make these kids believe they don't know the playbook.
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Sounds like skylar thinks he knows more than the coaches. Not sure we need that kind if attitude to start creeping into this program. Would rather have kids who want to do it the right way.
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Pretty arrogant considering the company he's in.
I like that in a quarterback.
Just remember out there we're all on the same team.
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Talked to some people at Fort Osage this weekend. They said Skylar Thompson thinks he (referring to himself) is by far the best QB that K-State has. Said that if he knew the playbook better he would be the starter.
Well, that's scary considering our passing offense consists of nothing but go routes, apparently.
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"The playbook" could be a great costume for a halloween party at KSU. Even better if you crashed the party as nobody would know you well enough.
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Guys, I have a pretty great idea. We need to dump the coaches, adopt the Madden 2016 playbook, and have a Madden tourney with the champ being the new head coach. Only requirement? Have to play as the wildwildcats in the tourney.
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The coaches probably make like 10 copies of each sheet in the playbook and those they don't want to play get that stack handed to them
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I would hope he would think he's the best quarterback, what a complete waste of time if he didn't.
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Fwiw I think most of you would be the best QB at KSU right now
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Fwiw I think most of you would be the best QB at KSU right now
I can confidently say that I would not be the best QB at KSU right now.
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Just had a mental image of KK under center and I laughed so hard that I think I need to have hernia surgery.
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Fwiw I think most of you would be the best QB at KSU right now
Dunno, I'm 5'10 and my hands are only average size. I do have a p. strong arm, tho. Pitched in high school. Probs would be a real struggle, given the playbook and all :D
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It is known that Skylar had a knee injury preventing him from playing in the spring game.
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Pretty arrogant considering the company he's in.
I like that in a quarterback.
Just remember out there we're all on the same team.
im a sucker for a good top gun reference. Well played
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Winston dimels nickname is "the phenom"
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Our starting Left Tackle, Frantz, may be out this weekend. Injured his knee :curse:
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Our starting Left Tackle, Frantz, may be out this weekend. Injured his knee :curse:
I was actually going to post that he was one of the few bright spots on offense last weekend. F me
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Our starting Left Tackle, Frantz, may be out this weekend. Injured his knee :curse:
Great, OT is already a position with zero depth. Bryce Fitzner as the replacement?
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Fitzner, I hardly know her!
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Our starting Left Tackle, Frantz, may be out this weekend. Injured his knee :curse:
I was actually going to post that he was one of the few bright spots on offense last weekend. F me
This site isn't free for nothing!
#goetard
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Heath hates Pringle. Here is video proof.
https://www.facebook.com/wibwchrislilly/videos/1089959434433149/
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Heath hates Pringle. Here is video proof.
https://www.facebook.com/wibwchrislilly/videos/1089959434433149/
Lol
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Heath hates Pringle. Here is video proof.
https://www.facebook.com/wibwchrislilly/videos/1089959434433149/
Lol
Thats my guy!
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On the topic of Skylar Thompson, I'll share this (for what it's worth):
About a week or so ago, I overheard a conversation from someone connected to the program, a source I would consider reliable on the subject matter. The person was discussing the quarterback situation at K-State and how the position has held back the offense to some extent this season. That's when he turned the focus towards Thompson, claiming he was told that the redshirt season has done wonders for the young signal caller. He discussed how much he's improved since arriving on campus in January and, probably the biggest takeaway from the entire discussion, isn't that far behind Jesse Ertz.
(Paraphrasing from memory)-- "I know Jesse isn't 100%, but Skylar is the real deal. If he wasn't redshirting right now, he'd be #2 and not as far behind as you'd think. He's the future."
Now, if experience plays as much of a role next year in determining quarterbacks as it has this season (i.e. Hubener basically playing over Delton because of experience and little else from what we've gathered), then I wouldn't necessarily put a ton of stock in the idea that Thompson beats out Ertz even if the two are equal. However, if Ertz were to struggle or can't stay healthy, it wouldn't necessarily surprise me either to see the staff move quicker to the back-up than we've seen in 2016. We've heard reviews like this in the past about players, namely Ertz (who I still think can be a pretty good QB if he can just get back to 100%), but it truly sounds like it's legit with Thompson. Just my two cents.
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thanks gopowerpett
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gopowerpett
Nope, try again
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i know skylar is good, and what you say may be correct. ertz is scared, he shows it every game (and i dont blame him having a few knee surgeries myself) if thompson isnt #1 coming out of the spring in 17 then i dont know what to think. its a bill thing "i want players with experience" well bill how can they get experience if you dont play them? if bill wanted to be in the here and now he cuts hubes makes skylar #2 and gets him in a few games.
and before some tuck comes in with the redshirt bullshit, he has burned several redshirts on young promising players to simply have a play here and there this year
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gopowerpett
Nope, try again
suck brick kid
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it would be really, really dumb to burn his redshirt
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it would be really, really dumb to burn his redshirt
agreed, should have been on the two deep from the start of the season
is it really dumb to burn harris' redshirt for one play?
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"but it truly sounds legit"
my level of hatred for wally is very unhealthy
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it would be really, really dumb to burn his redshirt
agreed, should have been on the two deep from the start of the season
is it really dumb to burn harris' redshirt for one play?
i don't know who that is, but probably.
it's dumb to burn someone's redshirt if you only need them for like <30 plays. Bazooks hasn't lost us any games this year.
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"but it truly sounds legit"
my level of hatred for wally is very unhealthy
I think a lot of it just has to do with his face.. very very punchable
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it would be really, really dumb to burn his redshirt
agreed, should have been on the two deep from the start of the season
is it really dumb to burn harris' redshirt for one play?
i don't know who that is, but probably.
it's dumb to burn someone's redshirt if you only need them for like <30 plays. Bazooks hasn't lost us any games this year.
jesus man let it go, he is terrible. not only that but i feel you missed my entire point
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it would be really, really dumb to burn his redshirt
agreed, should have been on the two deep from the start of the season
is it really dumb to burn harris' redshirt for one play?
i don't know who that is, but probably.
it's dumb to burn someone's redshirt if you only need them for like <30 plays. Bazooks hasn't lost us any games this year.
jesus man let it go, he is terrible. not only that but i feel you missed my entire point
i think you're missing the point -- i'm saying that burning Thompson's redshirt (or not redshirting him) to serve as a backup or to get "a play here and there" would've been a huge waste.
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does anyone dispute that? :dunno:
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does anyone dispute that?
i know skylar is good, and what you say may be correct. ertz is scared, he shows it every game (and i dont blame him having a few knee surgeries myself) if thompson isnt #1 coming out of the spring in 17 then i dont know what to think. its a bill thing "i want players with experience" well bill how can they get experience if you dont play them? if bill wanted to be in the here and now he cuts hubes makes skylar #2 and gets him in a few games.
and before some tuck comes in with the redshirt bullshit, he has burned several redshirts on young promising players to simply have a play here and there this year
:dunno:
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This whole Pett is Wally thing makes a lot of sense, you guys.
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oh didn't read that.. good lord kslim....
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it would be really, really dumb to burn his redshirt
agreed, should have been on the two deep from the start of the season
is it really dumb to burn harris' redshirt for one play?
i don't know who that is, but probably.
it's dumb to burn someone's redshirt if you only need them for like <30 plays. Bazooks hasn't lost us any games this year.
jesus man let it go, he is terrible. not only that but i feel you missed my entire point
i think you're missing the point -- i'm saying that burning Thompson's redshirt (or not redshirting him) to serve as a backup or to get "a play here and there" would've been a huge waste.
if he is number 2 to start the season he would have been in 4 games (thats a guess and how many hubes has played in) so bill and to my point earler cant really use the well we want the guy with more experience excuse.
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oh didn't read that.. good lord kslim....
you dont think having our qb of the future play now is a good thing? im not saying bring him in to start but why not make him the #2 when he (per "sources") is the best qb we have? especially in the non con
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no
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no
so you are happy with hubes as the #2?
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Ertz isn't running afraid of being injured anymore and hasn't in a month.
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Ertz isn't running afraid of being injured anymore and hasn't in a month.
then why every time there is a blitz he over throws it ten yards? he doesnt set his feet and gets skiddish, it looks like he freaks out
i mean that in a serious way and think jesse is a good qb fwiw
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i'd rather have a full season of 5th year Thompson in 2020 than 30 plays of true freshman Thompson in 2016.
assuming that ertz is better than Thompson this year, this is a no-brainer.
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i'd rather have a full season of 5th year Thompson in 2020 than 30 plays of true freshman Thompson in 2016.
assuming that ertz is better than Thompson this year, this is a no-brainer.
do you remember when ck7 came in vs texas and mizzou? how did those 30 plays work out?
look im not itk about skylar so this could all be for not but if hubes sucks (obv) and delton (for whatever reason) wont see the field, why not see what the future holds? saying that as a hypothetical from the start of the season i am in no way saying burn his shirt now
and again ertz is the guy but with his injury crap who the eff knows
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gopowerpett
Nope, try again
suck brick kid
No, I meant your nickname was awful. Missing the point again, idiot.
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#FreeSkylar
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gopowerpett
Nope, try again
suck brick kid
No, I meant your nickname was awful. Missing the point again, idiot.
would you rather us call you wally from now on?
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i'd rather have a full season of 5th year Thompson in 2020 than 30 plays of true freshman Thompson in 2016.
assuming that ertz is better than Thompson this year, this is a no-brainer.
do you remember when ck7 came in vs texas and mizzou? how did those 30 plays work out?
and KU!
in any event, klein had already redshirted by that point. it didn't cost us anything to try him out against UT or Mizzou. anyhow we're just going to have to disagree on this.
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i'd rather have a full season of 5th year Thompson in 2020 than 30 plays of true freshman Thompson in 2016.
assuming that ertz is better than Thompson this year, this is a no-brainer.
do you remember when ck7 came in vs texas and mizzou? how did those 30 plays work out?
and KU!
in any event, klein had already redshirted by that point. it didn't cost us anything to try him out against UT or Mizzou. anyhow we're just going to have to disagree on this.
and thats fine, i just look at guys like eason and hurt (georgia and bama respectively) and wonder what if. if we didnt have a qb that seems to get hurt a lot i wouldnt have even mentioned it
go cat
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Ertz isn't running afraid of being injured anymore and hasn't in a month.
then why every time there is a blitz he over throws it ten yards? he doesnt set his feet and gets skiddish, it looks like he freaks out
i mean that in a serious way and think jesse is a good qb fwiw
He isn't overthrowing anything anymore. And as I have said before I think his overthrow issues were more related to attempting to avoid getting picked, he's definitely afraid of that.
Afraid of being hit is different than afraid of being injured. I'm assuming every qb ever is afraid of being hit in the pocket, it hurts a lot, the good ones eventually develop the mechanics though to deal with delivering a good ball in anticipation of getting smashed. When he seemed earlier in the year to be afraid of being injured it manifested itself in very tentative running and in a reluctance to make plays with his feet.
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Ertz isn't running afraid of being injured anymore and hasn't in a month.
then why every time there is a blitz he over throws it ten yards? he doesnt set his feet and gets skiddish, it looks like he freaks out
i mean that in a serious way and think jesse is a good qb fwiw
He isn't overthrowing anything anymore. And as I have said before I think his overthrow issues were more related to attempting to avoid getting picked, he's definitely afraid of that.
Afraid of being hit is different than afraid of being injured. I'm assuming every qb ever is afraid of being hit in the pocket, it hurts a lot, the good ones eventually develop the mechanics though to deal with delivering a good ball in anticipation of getting smashed. When he seemed earlier in the year to be afraid of being injured it manifested itself in very tentative running and in a reluctance to make plays with his feet.
well if you say he isnt overthrowing passes anymore i have to disagree there, pressure up the middle and he chunks it just look at the pringle pass. actually there were a few that players bailed him out of iirc. (kinda pakd, have yet to see the game on tv)
i agree he is moving around in the pocket better so i guess thats a good sign.
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Pumped to hear that our stud QB recruit is only a little bit worse than our current god awful QB. :drool:
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Ertz isn't running afraid of being injured anymore and hasn't in a month.
then why every time there is a blitz he over throws it ten yards? he doesnt set his feet and gets skiddish, it looks like he freaks out
i mean that in a serious way and think jesse is a good qb fwiw
He isn't overthrowing anything anymore. And as I have said before I think his overthrow issues were more related to attempting to avoid getting picked, he's definitely afraid of that.
Afraid of being hit is different than afraid of being injured. I'm assuming every qb ever is afraid of being hit in the pocket, it hurts a lot, the good ones eventually develop the mechanics though to deal with delivering a good ball in anticipation of getting smashed. When he seemed earlier in the year to be afraid of being injured it manifested itself in very tentative running and in a reluctance to make plays with his feet.
well if you say he isnt overthrowing passes anymore i have to disagree there, pressure up the middle and he chunks it just look at the pringle pass. actually there were a few that players bailed him out of iirc. (kinda pakd, have yet to see the game on tv)
i agree he is moving around in the pocket better so i guess thats a good sign.
He floated that Pringle pass, his shoulder is not good right now, I don't think he's capable of an overthrow right now.
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i'd rather have a full season of 5th year Thompson in 2020 than 30 plays of true freshman Thompson in 2016.
assuming that ertz is better than Thompson this year, this is a no-brainer.
This. Good grief.
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i'd rather have a full season of 5th year Thompson in 2020 than 30 plays of true freshman Thompson in 2016.
assuming that ertz is better than Thompson this year, this is a no-brainer.
This. Good grief.
OH HEY!
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I'm skeptical Ertz is going to start every game this season, and I actually doubt he'll play every down of the ISU game.
Let's also not forget Ertz is going for his first career road victory this weekend.
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Let's also not forget Ertz is going for his first career road victory this weekend.
He's playing at home, bro.
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i'd rather have a full season of 5th year Thompson in 2020 than 30 plays of true freshman Thompson in 2016.
assuming that ertz is better than Thompson this year, this is a no-brainer.
This. Good grief.
Me, too.
I might feel differently if we still has a decent shot at the conference championship this year(field goal verse WV), but we don't. I think Ertz/Hubener/Delton can get us to 7-8 wins this year.
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i'd rather have a full season of 5th year Thompson in 2020 than 30 plays of true freshman Thompson in 2016.
assuming that ertz is better than Thompson this year, this is a no-brainer.
he would have played far more than 30 plays already if he was the backup and would likely play quite a bit more given ertz's health. hubes already has 35 passes and 16 rushes for reference.
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i'd rather have a full season of 5th year Thompson in 2020 than 30 plays of true freshman Thompson in 2016.
assuming that ertz is better than Thompson this year, this is a no-brainer.
he would have played far more than 30 plays already if he was the backup and would likely play quite a bit more given ertz's health. hubes already has 35 passes and 16 rushes for reference.
my point still stands
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I'm in the camp that Ertz probably has a partially torn _____________ in his shoulder. He had nothing on any of his throws last week, and winced and was moving his shoulder any time someone hit him.
I would not be surprised at all if Hubes or Delton rolled out in Ames this weekend.
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I'm in the camp that Ertz probably has a partially torn _____________ in his shoulder. He had nothing on any of his throws last week, and winced and was moving his shoulder any time someone hit him.
I would not be surprised at all if Hubes or Delton rolled out in Ames this weekend.
or ya know we could run for 5.8 ypc and throw when we actually need to.
shocker i know
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I'm guessing Ertz's shoulder is an AC joint issue of some sort, similar to past injuries our other QBs have had. Depending on the severity, it is pretty manageable and throwing isn't a huge issue, it just become a matter of pain tolerance of the player and avoiding big hits to cause further damage.
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http://www.kansas.com/sports/college/big-12/kansas-state/article110623332.html
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I'm in the camp that Ertz probably has a partially torn _____________ in his shoulder. He had nothing on any of his throws last week, and winced and was moving his shoulder any time someone hit him.
I would not be surprised at all if Hubes or Delton rolled out in Ames this weekend.
Should probably stop getting your hopes up about Delton. I'd be surprised if he sees another snap this season barring injury.
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No one thought ck would start against Texas
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I'm in the camp that Ertz probably has a partially torn _____________ in his shoulder. He had nothing on any of his throws last week, and winced and was moving his shoulder any time someone hit him.
I would not be surprised at all if Hubes or Delton rolled out in Ames this weekend.
Should probably stop getting your hopes up about Delton. I'd be surprised if he sees another snap this season barring injury.
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He's not taking a snap here ever again.
No one thought ck would start against Texas
He wasn't the third string QB, he was the back up.
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Wasn't Delton/or early on?
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I'm in the camp that Ertz probably has a partially torn _____________ in his shoulder. He had nothing on any of his throws last week, and winced and was moving his shoulder any time someone hit him.
I would not be surprised at all if Hubes or Delton rolled out in Ames this weekend.
Should probably stop getting your hopes up about Delton. I'd be surprised if he sees another snap this season barring injury.
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He's not taking a snap here ever again.
:confused: :dunno:
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I'm in the camp that Ertz probably has a partially torn _____________ in his shoulder. He had nothing on any of his throws last week, and winced and was moving his shoulder any time someone hit him.
I would not be surprised at all if Hubes or Delton rolled out in Ames this weekend.
Should probably stop getting your hopes up about Delton. I'd be surprised if he sees another snap this season barring injury.
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He's not taking a snap here ever again.
:confused: :dunno:
What's there to be confused about? If the coaches won't play him over senior Bazooka Joe he will never pass Ertz. This isn't even taking Thompson and whatever inevitable juco qb they bring in.
Let me clarify, he's taken his lay snap here under this staff.
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I'm in the camp that Ertz probably has a partially torn _____________ in his shoulder. He had nothing on any of his throws last week, and winced and was moving his shoulder any time someone hit him.
I would not be surprised at all if Hubes or Delton rolled out in Ames this weekend.
Should probably stop getting your hopes up about Delton. I'd be surprised if he sees another snap this season barring injury.
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He's not taking a snap here ever again.
:confused: :dunno:
What's there to be confused about? If the coaches won't play him over senior Bazooka Joe he will never pass Ertz. This isn't even taking Thompson and whatever inevitable juco qb they bring in.
Let me clarify, he's taken his lay snap here under this staff.
Just thought was more to your comment like he is outa here, not how he is getting handled on opportunities.
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I'm in the camp that Ertz probably has a partially torn _____________ in his shoulder. He had nothing on any of his throws last week, and winced and was moving his shoulder any time someone hit him.
I would not be surprised at all if Hubes or Delton rolled out in Ames this weekend.
Should probably stop getting your hopes up about Delton. I'd be surprised if he sees another snap this season barring injury.
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He's not taking a snap here ever again.
:confused: :dunno:
What's there to be confused about? If the coaches won't play him over senior Bazooka Joe he will never pass Ertz. This isn't even taking Thompson and whatever inevitable juco qb they bring in.
Let me clarify, he's taken his lay snap here under this staff.
Just thought was more to your comment like he is outa here, not how he is getting handled on opportunities.
I'm legitimately disappointed for him that he's still here. QB is a unique position, you can only play one at a time, wait your turn rarely works when you're the third guy.
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I'm in the camp that Ertz probably has a partially torn _____________ in his shoulder. He had nothing on any of his throws last week, and winced and was moving his shoulder any time someone hit him.
I would not be surprised at all if Hubes or Delton rolled out in Ames this weekend.
Should probably stop getting your hopes up about Delton. I'd be surprised if he sees another snap this season barring injury.
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He's not taking a snap here ever again.
:confused: :dunno:
What's there to be confused about? If the coaches won't play him over senior Bazooka Joe he will never pass Ertz. This isn't even taking Thompson and whatever inevitable juco qb they bring in.
Let me clarify, he's taken his lay snap here under this staff.
Just thought was more to your comment like he is outa here, not how he is getting handled on opportunities.
I'm legitimately disappointed for him that he's still here. QB is a unique position, you can only play one at a time, wait your turn rarely works when you're the third guy.
He is still there because he is a redshirt freshman and will get his chance. All a matter of time. Where was everyone saying the same thing when Jesse was the 3rd string behind Jake and Joe during his red shirt freshman year?
Fact of the matter is, they brought in a juco QB last year in Banks. Now he is gone. By this time next year, Alex will be competing for the starting job. If you think Skylar is going to start as a redshirt freshman without both Jesse and Alex being injured, and Bill is still the HC, you are wrong. It's all a matter of reps and experience in this system.
That's where Alex missed out. Spent his redshirt year injured instead of practicing, gaining reps, and running the scout team. It will come in due time. Patience.
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I'm in the camp that Ertz probably has a partially torn _____________ in his shoulder. He had nothing on any of his throws last week, and winced and was moving his shoulder any time someone hit him.
I would not be surprised at all if Hubes or Delton rolled out in Ames this weekend.
Should probably stop getting your hopes up about Delton. I'd be surprised if he sees another snap this season barring injury.
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He's not taking a snap here ever again.
:confused: :dunno:
What's there to be confused about? If the coaches won't play him over senior Bazooka Joe he will never pass Ertz. This isn't even taking Thompson and whatever inevitable juco qb they bring in.
Let me clarify, he's taken his lay snap here under this staff.
Just thought was more to your comment like he is outa here, not how he is getting handled on opportunities.
I'm legitimately disappointed for him that he's still here. QB is a unique position, you can only play one at a time, wait your turn rarely works when you're the third guy.
He is still there because he is a redshirt freshman and will get his chance. All a matter of time. Where was everyone saying the same thing when Jesse was the 3rd string behind Jake and Joe during his red shirt freshman year?
Fact of the matter is, they brought in a juco QB last year in Banks. Now he is gone. By this time next year, Alex will be competing for the starting job. If you think Skylar is going to start as a redshirt freshman without both Jesse and Alex being injured, and Bill is still the HC, you are wrong. It's all a matter of reps and experience in this system.
That's where Alex missed out. Spent his redshirt year injured instead of practicing, gaining reps, and running the scout team. It will come in due time. Patience.
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FINALLY SOMEONE MAKES SENSE!
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I'm in the camp that Ertz probably has a partially torn _____________ in his shoulder. He had nothing on any of his throws last week, and winced and was moving his shoulder any time someone hit him.
I would not be surprised at all if Hubes or Delton rolled out in Ames this weekend.
Should probably stop getting your hopes up about Delton. I'd be surprised if he sees another snap this season barring injury.
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He's not taking a snap here ever again.
:confused: :dunno:
What's there to be confused about? If the coaches won't play him over senior Bazooka Joe he will never pass Ertz. This isn't even taking Thompson and whatever inevitable juco qb they bring in.
Let me clarify, he's taken his lay snap here under this staff.
Just thought was more to your comment like he is outa here, not how he is getting handled on opportunities.
I'm legitimately disappointed for him that he's still here. QB is a unique position, you can only play one at a time, wait your turn rarely works when you're the third guy.
He is still there because he is a redshirt freshman and will get his chance. All a matter of time. Where was everyone saying the same thing when Jesse was the 3rd string behind Jake and Joe during his red shirt freshman year?
Fact of the matter is, they brought in a juco QB last year in Banks. Now he is gone. By this time next year, Alex will be competing for the starting job. If you think Skylar is going to start as a redshirt freshman without both Jesse and Alex being injured, and Bill is still the HC, you are wrong. It's all a matter of reps and experience in this system.
That's where Alex missed out. Spent his redshirt year injured instead of practicing, gaining reps, and running the scout team. It will come in due time. Patience.
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That's all reasonable, I'm good with it. Worth noting though Jesse was third string and the starter was a senior, Alex is apparently third string and the starter is a sophomore.
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Yea, but Alex wouldn't be third string if Hubes was a Sophomore (possibly not even a Junior).
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Yea, but Alex wouldn't be third string if Hubes was a Sophomore (possibly not even a Junior).
How do you know that and better yet is how is that relevant to the conversation?
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Alex doesn't have an arm is the issue.
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If Ertz can stay healthy, he is the guy until he's gone. If Skylar is really good, Alex needs to transfer like yesterday.
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Sometimes I wonder if Alex is 'good enough'. I mean, we all know that he is...and that he should be starting, of course, but every once in awhile I get this thought clear in the back of my mostly vacant brain that maybe, just maybe....he ain't good 'nuff.
It's crazy talk, I know.
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Another thing to remember regarding Alex's future; I can't remember LHC Bill Snyder ever unseating a returning quarterback. This second year as a starter thing that we're always hearing comes from the staff, they believe in that.
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Yeah, I can't imagine how amazing Skylar would have to be to take the spot from Ertz in the next two yrs. That is why if Skylar is better than Delton, Delton needs to preserve some PT and get down the road ASAP.
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I doubt either Alex or Skylar play QB here.
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I put stock in the fact that both Ertz and Thompson were not only very accomplished players (Gatorade player of the year in their states), but also won at a high level, leading their teams to state title games their senior years. I think they will be battling for the starting spot the next few years, and with all that Thompson accomplished in HS, he may unseat Ertz. He is Snyder's best QB recruit during 2.0 by far, and one of his best ever IMO.
Meanwhile Hubener was a part time QB for a mediocre 3A school and Delton was a slightly more accomplished 3 year starter for a decent 5A school that never made the playoffs during his HS career. They are great guys to have in here as depth, and while I'd like to see what Delton can do, I do not think he is (or ever will be) better than Ertz or Thompson. If he chooses to transfer, he probably ends up very low D1 or maybe even D2, perhaps back at home in Hays.
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Another thing to remember regarding Alex's future; I can't remember LHC Bill Snyder ever unseating a returning quarterback. This second year as a starter thing that we're always hearing comes from the staff, they believe in that.
i believe you are right........Ell replaced Dunn in 02 (the Colorado game, maybe ???) ......Dunn was a returning qb, but not a returning starting qb.
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That's a QB battle, not an unseating.
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do you guys not see my point now? as fan said we have one of the best qb prospects snyder and co have ever landed yet he might not see the field (as a regular) for 3 years yet we have a back up that sucks and another that apparently cant do whatever he needs to to be ahead of said crap back up.
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do you guys not see my point now? as fan said we have one of the best qb prospects snyder and co have ever landed yet he might not see the field (as a regular) for 3 years yet we have a back up that sucks and another that apparently cant do whatever he needs to to be ahead of said crap back up.
where are you coming up with this?
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#FreeSkylar
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do you guys not see my point now? as fan said we have one of the best qb prospects snyder and co have ever landed yet he might not see the field (as a regular) for 3 years yet we have a back up that sucks and another that apparently cant do whatever he needs to to be ahead of said crap back up.
I don't mind the redshirt for Thompson in this situation though. I'm sure he's improved a lot just this fall that will benefit him in the future. The kid was playing HS football just a year ago and with all that Snyder puts on the QB position, I think redshirting this year is probably the best option. I won't be surprised at all if this staff forgoes the usual point of sticking with the 2nd year starter policy if Thompson is as good as it sounds like he might be.
Also, its fair to point out that the staff went away from the 2nd year starter scenario this season. Of course Hubener only got most of the starts last year because of injury and clearly they were never completely comfortable since we played a WR at the QB spot quite a bit, but still they just didn't hand Hubener the reigns because of experience. Granted, I think the only reason he is #2 now is because of that experience; if Delton and he were the same level I believe Delton would be the #2. As is, they clearly don't trust Delton as much, though it seemed to me they tried to push Delton into the #2 spot by playing him in mop up duty earlier this year before Hubener, but I could be reading too much into that.
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do you guys not see my point now? as fan said we have one of the best qb prospects snyder and co have ever landed yet he might not see the field (as a regular) for 3 years yet we have a back up that sucks and another that apparently cant do whatever he needs to to be ahead of said crap back up.
where are you coming up with this?
ertz will get a medical redshirt, he played 1 play last year. so therefore he is technically a sophomore. by all accounts he will be our qb for the rest of this year and two years moving forward unless we have a new staff and or he completely falls apart.
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at the end of the day im worried that one of our best qbs we have had here (potentially, i mean i could be completely wrong but i think we have heard enough about him to assume it) could get maybe 2 years as a starter. the thing i hate is that the coaches value experience so much but how the hell can the guy get experience if he doesnt get to play?
especially when he is better than the guys in front of him
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So, how sexy does Skylar look in his uni? Delton looks like hot sex, and Ertz/Hubes look like huge goobers.
This is a big deal.
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at the end of the day im worried that one of our best qbs we have had here (potentially, i mean i could be completely wrong but i think we have heard enough about him to assume it) could get maybe 2 years as a starter. the thing i hate is that the coaches value experience so much but how the hell can the guy get experience if he doesnt get to play?
especially when he is better than the guys in front of him
At the end of the day, these coaches want to win. If Thompson is as good as advertised he will win the job, probably next year, especially with how injury prone Ertz appears to be.
I just don't think any of these guys that many our fans want to celebrate (Sams, Banks, Delton) have been THAT good.
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:thumbs:
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Yea, but Alex wouldn't be third string if Hubes was a Sophomore (possibly not even a Junior).
How do you know that and better yet is how is that relevant to the conversation?
Last year when Hubes was a junior he got benched in favor of a WR. He's accumulated more starting experience since then which makes me think is the only thing keeping him ahead of Delton.
It's relevant because you mentioned how Delton is third string behind a sophomore instead of a senior. I'm saying Delton is not really that clear of a third string behind a sophomore. Hubes being a senior is the only thing keeping Delton from being second string.
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at the end of the day im worried that one of our best qbs we have had here (potentially, i mean i could be completely wrong but i think we have heard enough about him to assume it) could get maybe 2 years as a starter. the thing i hate is that the coaches value experience so much but how the hell can the guy get experience if he doesnt get to play?
especially when he is better than the guys in front of him
At the end of the day, these coaches want to win. If Thompson is as good as advertised he will win the job, probably next year, especially with how injury prone Ertz appears to be.
I just don't think any of these guys that many our fans want to celebrate (Sams, Banks, Delton) have been THAT good.
Makes perfect sense. I can't get over the fans(posters) who think we need to be chasing our young QB's away from the big bad old KSU coaches, because it's obvious they don't have their best interest in mind. :Crazy:
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Yea, but Alex wouldn't be third string if Hubes was a Sophomore (possibly not even a Junior).
How do you know that and better yet is how is that relevant to the conversation?
Last year when Hubes was a junior he got benched in favor of a WR. He's accumulated more starting experience since then which makes me think is the only thing keeping him ahead of Delton.
It's relevant because you mentioned how Delton is third string behind a sophomore instead of a senior. I'm saying Delton is not really that clear of a third string behind a sophomore. Hubes being a senior is the only thing keeping Delton from being second string.
Yes, sort of like Adam Helm and El Roberson in 99. Helm just better pieces around him, so we could still win that game vs Iowa State.
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I put stock in the fact that both Ertz and Thompson were not only very accomplished players (Gatorade player of the year in their states), but also won at a high level, leading their teams to state title games their senior years. I think they will be battling for the starting spot the next few years, and with all that Thompson accomplished in HS, he may unseat Ertz. He is Snyder's best QB recruit during 2.0 by far, and one of his best ever IMO.
Meanwhile Hubener was a part time QB for a mediocre 3A school and Delton was a slightly more accomplished 3 year starter for a decent 5A school that never made the playoffs during his HS career. They are great guys to have in here as depth, and while I'd like to see what Delton can do, I do not think he is (or ever will be) better than Ertz or Thompson. If he chooses to transfer, he probably ends up very low D1 or maybe even D2, perhaps back at home in Hays.
Can Alex transfer to a Juco as a RS sophomore?
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I put stock in the fact that both Ertz and Thompson were not only very accomplished players (Gatorade player of the year in their states), but also won at a high level, leading their teams to state title games their senior years. I think they will be battling for the starting spot the next few years, and with all that Thompson accomplished in HS, he may unseat Ertz. He is Snyder's best QB recruit during 2.0 by far, and one of his best ever IMO.
Meanwhile Hubener was a part time QB for a mediocre 3A school and Delton was a slightly more accomplished 3 year starter for a decent 5A school that never made the playoffs during his HS career. They are great guys to have in here as depth, and while I'd like to see what Delton can do, I do not think he is (or ever will be) better than Ertz or Thompson. If he chooses to transfer, he probably ends up very low D1 or maybe even D2, perhaps back at home in Hays.
Can Alex transfer to a Juco as a RS sophomore?
Pretty much the same route Banks is taking.
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I really think the kid will see playing time next year. Ertz will be like Gregory was by the end of this season. His shoulder won't hold out and B. Joe is gone.
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at the end of the day im worried that one of our best qbs we have had here (potentially, i mean i could be completely wrong but i think we have heard enough about him to assume it) could get maybe 2 years as a starter. the thing i hate is that the coaches value experience so much but how the hell can the guy get experience if he doesnt get to play?
especially when he is better than the guys in front of him
At the end of the day, these coaches want to win. If Thompson is as good as advertised he will win the job, probably next year, especially with how injury prone Ertz appears to be.
I just don't think any of these guys that many our fans want to celebrate (Sams, Banks, Delton) have been THAT good.
Makes perfect sense. I can't get over the fans(posters) who think we need to be chasing our young QB's away from the big bad old KSU coaches, because it's obvious they don't have their best interest in mind. :Crazy:
slow down there champ, i dont want any of our players to leave. i think delton is very talented and would like him to not waste 4 years at ksu as a 3rd string qb. i think he could see the field at another position
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What have you seen in Delton that makes you think he's "very talented" minus a few QB sneaks in garbage time?
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I did the research so you guys don't have to. Skylar looks hot AF in a football uniform.
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What have you seen in Delton that makes you think he's "very talented" minus a few QB sneaks in garbage time?
i watched him a couple of times at hays, went to last years spring game and have seen him run in a few games this year. he seems pretty damn talented
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What have you seen in Delton that makes you think he's "very talented" minus a few QB sneaks in garbage time?
I don't know either, but I don't think he is garbage. Like I said before, there is a very good chance he'll see playing time next year.
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Everyone looks like a rockstar playing football in Western KS. It's #science. It does get tiring when fans bitch about 3rd string/back up QB's not getting opportunities because "eff this coaching staff, roar roar roar roar", call me a tuck, but these guys have been doing this for awhile. I trust their judgement on talent evaluation and who can win us games.
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Everyone looks like a rockstar playing football in Western KS. It's #science. It does get tiring when fans bitch about 3rd string/back up QB's not getting opportunities because "eff this coaching staff, roar roar roar roar", call me a tuck, but these guys have been doing this for awhile. I trust their judgement on talent evaluation and who can win us games.
i have no clue what that is suppose to mean, we have thrived on people from western kansas
also we are all pieces of crap here and you quit goEMAW so what gives?
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kslim, I know your infatuation for me is intense, but stay on topic. Don't go back to some random tweet every time someone is putting a body bag around you. A guy who runs a 4.4- 40 at one of the bigger schools in Western KS, who have to play sometimes smaller schools because of distance/population, is going to look like a rockstar in HS. We've had players thrive at k-state from western ks, but not QB's.
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Since you have "given up" this board wacky I suggest you head over here http://www.k-statefans.com/ (http://www.k-statefans.com/)
TIA
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Great contribution per usual #life(in prison)
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J beasley took a redshirt year to let the Bishop era happen.
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kslim, I know your infatuation for me is intense, but stay on topic. Don't go back to some random tweet every time someone is putting a body bag around you. A guy who runs a 4.4- 40 at one of the bigger schools in Western KS, who have to play sometimes smaller schools because of distance/population, is going to look like a rockstar in HS. We've had players thrive at k-state from western ks, but not QB's.
again what? i welcomed you back....i know its hard for you to quit us maybe dont try to publicly shame the board.
as our topic which i was fully on 5a is the second highest caliber ranking in the state of kansas and who he played he cannot help, he was a top 5 player in kansas....
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If you take offense to what I said, then it obviously pertains to you. I'm friends with many ppl on this board. Are there many POS on here? Yeah, there are. Sorry i'm bored at work and decided to throw in a few posts today. How dare me.
Anyways, this was Hays schedule this year: http://www.maxpreps.com/high-schools/hays-indians-(hays,ks)/football/schedule.htm :Yuck:
My point stands. I'm sure he looked great in HS, but against who? Kids currently working on the farm? cool!
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I mean Willis graded higher than him in HS and he sucks complete crap.
https://n.rivals.com/state_rankings/2015/kansas
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Alex was very welcome at last year's spring practice. LHCBS commented about how much he liked how well Alex was doing and the commitment he had leading up to the spring practices. So if Bill thinks he good, why do we want to throw him under the bus. Lets give him some time and his turn will come.
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Delton can't throw 40 yards. This is known.
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Delton can't throw 40 yards. This is known.
How do you know this?
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Our receiving core is one of our bright spots. There's some talent out there. Have there been drops? yes, but I have the feeling the coaches feel more comfortable with a QB who can get them the ball. To be fair, we still haven't been able to see Delton throw.
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If you take offense to what I said, then it obviously pertains to you. I'm friends with many ppl on this board. Are there many POS on here? Yeah, there are. Sorry i'm bored at work and decided to throw in a few posts today. How dare me.
Anyways, this was Hays schedule this year: http://www.maxpreps.com/high-schools/hays-indians-(hays,ks)/football/schedule.htm :Yuck:
My point stands. I'm sure he looked great in HS, but against who? Kids currently working on the farm? cool!
That schedule really isn't that bad.
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Delton can't throw 40 yards. This is known.
And Jesse and Hubener can?
First off, Alex's throwing ability is not holding him back at all, he throws it just fine. In fact, I have heard he has been throwing it better than both Ertz and Hubener in practice all year. The only thing holding him back is experience. Plain and simple. It will be the only thing holding Skylar back next year. And every other QB to come in under Snyder.
Damn! He trippin' so hard fans are gonna think he done fell off!
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We should ban any and all recruits / current players who grew up within 50 miles of a farm.
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Delton can't throw 40 yards. This is known.
And Jesse and Hubener can?
First off, Alex's throwing ability is not holding him back at all, he throws it just fine. In fact, I have heard he has been throwing it better than both Ertz and Hubener in practice all year. The only thing holding him back is experience. Plain and simple. It will be the only thing holding Skylar back next year. And every other QB to come in under Snyder.
Damn! He trippin' so hard fans are gonna think he done fell off!
Hubener actually has a pretty strong arm. I'm positive Delton can throw further than Ertz could during the game against Texas. He wouldn't have been able to start at Hays if he can't. His accuracy might be worse, though. :dunno:
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And Jesse is only one class younger than Joe. He came in in 2013, won the Red Raider award. Redshirted, was the #3 QB in 2014. Was the starter last year before getting hurt and is the starter this year. So technically he has been in the program 4 years. But due to the injury, would be considered a sophomore and one year ahead of Alex instead of 2 or 3 ahead of Skylar.
Damn! He trippin' so hard fans are gonna think he done fell off!
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If you take offense to what I said, then it obviously pertains to you. I'm friends with many ppl on this board. Are there many POS on here? Yeah, there are. Sorry i'm bored at work and decided to throw in a few posts today. How dare me.
Anyways, this was Hays schedule this year: http://www.maxpreps.com/high-schools/hays-indians-(hays,ks)/football/schedule.htm :Yuck:
My point stands. I'm sure he looked great in HS, but against who? Kids currently working on the farm? cool!
That schedule really isn't that bad.
its also this year, obviously delton doesnt play for hays right now
this is his senior year
Date
Opponent
Notes
Result
9/5
@ Olathe Northwest
(CBAC)
W 12-10
9/12
@ Great Bend
W 49-6
9/19
vs. Liberal
W 42-28
9/26
@ Garden City
W 42-28
10/3
vs. Wichita South
W 57-8
10/10
vs. Dodge City
W 64-50
10/17
@ Buhler
L 21-55
10/24
vs. Abilene
W 34-33
10/31
@ McPherson
L 35-42
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If you take offense to what I said, then it obviously pertains to you. I'm friends with many ppl on this board. Are there many POS on here? Yeah, there are. Sorry i'm bored at work and decided to throw in a few posts today. How dare me.
Anyways, this was Hays schedule this year: http://www.maxpreps.com/high-schools/hays-indians-(hays,ks)/football/schedule.htm :Yuck:
My point stands. I'm sure he looked great in HS, but against who? Kids currently working on the farm? cool!
That schedule really isn't that bad.
You're kidding, right? They're playing down several times. Scott, Abilene, valley center, wamego? They have to play down several classifications.
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Delton can't throw 40 yards. This is known.
And Jesse and Hubener can?
Hubes can easily throw 40, I'm pretty sure the TD pass to Heath against OU was 50 yards, and he had to roll out to the right. Not saying that makes Hubes a good QB, but throwing it a long ways is not his issue.
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If you take offense to what I said, then it obviously pertains to you. I'm friends with many ppl on this board. Are there many POS on here? Yeah, there are. Sorry i'm bored at work and decided to throw in a few posts today. How dare me.
Anyways, this was Hays schedule this year: http://www.maxpreps.com/high-schools/hays-indians-(hays,ks)/football/schedule.htm :Yuck:
My point stands. I'm sure he looked great in HS, but against who? Kids currently working on the farm? cool!
That schedule really isn't that bad.
You're kidding, right? They're playing down several times. Scott, Abilene, valley center, wamego? They have to play down several classifications.
so you dont give them credit for playing up either? garden and dodge are 6a
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If you take offense to what I said, then it obviously pertains to you. I'm friends with many ppl on this board. Are there many POS on here? Yeah, there are. Sorry i'm bored at work and decided to throw in a few posts today. How dare me.
Anyways, this was Hays schedule this year: http://www.maxpreps.com/high-schools/hays-indians-(hays,ks)/football/schedule.htm :Yuck:
My point stands. I'm sure he looked great in HS, but against who? Kids currently working on the farm? cool!
That schedule really isn't that bad.
You're kidding, right? They're playing down several times. Scott, Abilene, valley center, wamego? They have to play down several classifications.
I really don't follow Kansas High School football that closely, but kpreps lists Hays as 4A. They have 6A schools on their schedule. Is Hays actually 5A?
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ftr they cant help but play liberal garden dodge and great bend, they are all in the wac. they also cant help who they play in district. thats state mandated. so other than two games their schedule is set just like everyone else
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I've covered many shitty Garden City and Dodge City teams in the past. I guess I just don't think much of them. Although, I think GC is pretty good this year. I guess covering western ks football has jaded me a bit.
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If you take offense to what I said, then it obviously pertains to you. I'm friends with many ppl on this board. Are there many POS on here? Yeah, there are. Sorry i'm bored at work and decided to throw in a few posts today. How dare me.
Anyways, this was Hays schedule this year: http://www.maxpreps.com/high-schools/hays-indians-(hays,ks)/football/schedule.htm :Yuck:
My point stands. I'm sure he looked great in HS, but against who? Kids currently working on the farm? cool!
That schedule really isn't that bad.
You're kidding, right? They're playing down several times. Scott, Abilene, valley center, wamego? They have to play down several classifications.
I really don't follow Kansas High School football that closely, but kpreps lists Hays as 4A. They have 6A schools on their schedule. Is Hays actually 5A?
yes, as far as i know
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Yeah, they're 5A.
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Well, this is what I was seeing.
http://kpreps.com/kansas/teams/football/?id=45&t=hays
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I've covered many shitty Garden City and Dodge City teams in the past. I guess I just don't think much of them. Although, I think GC is pretty good this year. I guess covering western ks football has jaded me a bit.
so if you covered the multiple good teams that they have had your opinion would be different?
hell liberal was in the state championship like 5 straight years and they suck donkey dick now does that mean football in western kansas sucks?
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this has gotten way way off track, ill post any tidbits as they come
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You're kidding, right? They're playing down several times. Scott, Abilene, valley center, wamego? They have to play down several classifications.
Hays is 4A-1 now and they moved down to that level Delton's SR year. I don't believe quality of competition in HS is holding him back at all FWIW. Delton is fine IMO.
I'm glad we are having this discussion; Ertz, Delton, and Thompson is a solidly talented trio of QBs to have IMO.
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Interesting. I did not know that. Thanks for the heads up, _fan.
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LET'S NOT GET OUR PANTIES IN A BUNCH AND CHASE OFF TALENTED KIDS! :shakesfist:
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I agree with _fan. There's a lot to be excited about with our depth at QB. Even Hubs isn't absolute garbage for a walk-on QB. He's had some nice moments, but I just think the bad out weigh the good.
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Guys, can we please not get off track? I want to hear more about this western ks high school football!
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:lol:
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J beasley took a redshirt year to let the Bishop era happen.
Huge stud
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J beasley took a redshirt year to let the Bishop era happen.
Huge stud
Bish to Beas: The best back to back Qb'ing in KSU history*
*in my opinion.
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J beasley took a redshirt year to let the Bishop era happen.
Huge stud
Delton and Beasley are the only QB's under Snyder to ever take a snap as a True Freshman.
Damn! He trippin' so hard fans are gonna think he done fell off!
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J beasley took a redshirt year to let the Bishop era happen.
Huge stud
Bish to Beas: The best back to back Qb'ing in KSU history*
*in my opinion.
Well anyone who doesn't agree is probably not smart
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Guys, can we please not get off track? I want to hear more about this western ks high school football!
Not totally relevant, but a while back an angry 'tater called into the postgame show to tell Walters that the program was slipping because we didn't have enough kids from western Kansas. Those kids "built" the program. Angry 'tater was from Dighton.
Carry on
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:love: True story, western ks has beef with eastern ks schools. It's actually a thing. I interviewed a few coaches who would say stuff like "we get to take a shot at the city kids" whenever they'd meet up with a Wichita or a Topeka school. :love:
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That's what I am talking about! :excited:
Western KS'y and tidbit'y :emawkid:
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:love: True story, western ks has beef with eastern ks schools. It's actually a thing. I interviewed a few coaches who would say stuff like "we get to take a shot at the city kids" whenever they'd meet up with a Wichita or Topeka school. :love:
this is actually true, it was fun steamrolling a team from wichita or kc
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Also, "western Kansas", when it comes to 5A/6A football, is anything west of Topeka. Pete's own Seaman Vikings are the most western school in either class. (Also the #2 seed in the east this year!)
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And beating up on an eastern Kansas private school?! Oh man :love:
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Sams would have equaled or eclipsed Roberson if he were allowed to play as much as Roberson did as a sophomore. He was more talented and less rapey.
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Also, "western Kansas", when it comes to 5A/6A football, is anything west of Topeka. Pete's own Seaman Vikings are the most western school in either class. (Also the #2 seed in the east this year!)
:gocho:
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Sams would have equaled or eclipsed Roberson if he were allowed to play as much as Roberson did as a sophomore. He was more talented and less rapey.
No. If that was really the case, he would've dominated in D2. He was not more talented than Roberson at all.
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Also, "western Kansas", when it comes to 5A/6A football, is anything west of Topeka. Pete's own Seaman Vikings are the most western school in either class. (Also the #2 seed in the east this year!)
What do you mean? They are the most western "eastern Kansas" school?
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I had high hopes Sams -> Sharp would rival Bish->Beas
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Also, "western Kansas", when it comes to 5A/6A football, is anything west of Topeka. Pete's own Seaman Vikings are the most western school in either class. (Also the #2 seed in the east this year!)
What do you mean? They are the most western "eastern Kansas" school?
Yes.
In 6A, the most western "eastern school" is Lawrence Free State and soon they will probably be a western school too.
Also, 5A and 6A finally put all teams in the playoffs. Teams are seeded 1-16 in the east and west for each class. Its about time.
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We played Fort Scott in the playoffs my Sr year (first playoff appearance in 25 years!) and we got steamrolled by those huge hayseeds. Every one of them was twice our size and roided out on cow farm milk or something.
Besides JC and salina central, I think that was the only true western KS team I ever played
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Ft. Scott used to be very good at football. No idea if they still are. They are also like 15 miles from the Missouri line.
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I did the research so you guys don't have to. Skylar looks hot AF in a football uniform.
And you're not gonna share?
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Ertz is addicted to pain pills and alcohol.
Source: waks
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Going to the kck schools was the worst. The facilities were third worldish, the fans would yell death threats at us, and Wyandotte high is near some factory that makes the whole area smell like farts
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Sams would have equaled or eclipsed Roberson if he were allowed to play as much as Roberson did as a sophomore. He was more talented and less rapey.
No. If that was really the case, he would've dominated in D2. He was not more talented than Roberson at all.
I think you're underplaying the value of good coaching, and being less rapey.
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I did the research so you guys don't have to. Skylar looks hot AF in a football uniform.
And you're not gonna share?
Might be the icey whites, but :love:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CU8liaCUYAAC1mj.jpg:large)
A few bits of tid to share: He is wearing #10 at Cats U (pretty hot QB number if you ask me) and he's been known to wear a visor!
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Sams would have equaled or eclipsed Roberson if he were allowed to play as much as Roberson did as a sophomore. He was more talented and less rapey.
No. If that was really the case, he would've dominated in D2. He was not more talented than Roberson at all.
He was an offensive player of the year finalist.
http://www.mcneesesports.com/news/2015/11/17/FB_1117151119.aspx
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Sams would have equaled or eclipsed Roberson if he were allowed to play as much as Roberson did as a sophomore. He was more talented and less rapey.
No. If that was really the case, he would've dominated in D2. He was not more talented than Roberson at all.
I think you're underplaying the value of good coaching, and being less rapey.
Less rapey and more murdery I suppose.
Roberson was the 2nd most talented QB at K-State under Snyder.
Sams would have equaled or eclipsed Roberson if he were allowed to play as much as Roberson did as a sophomore. He was more talented and less rapey.
No. If that was really the case, he would've dominated in D2. He was not more talented than Roberson at all.
He was an offensive player of the year finalist.
http://www.mcneesesports.com/news/2015/11/17/FB_1117151119.aspx
He was a very good player at that level, but I'm not sure I'd say dominant. I still don't think he was more talented than Roberson.
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Sams would have equaled or eclipsed Roberson if he were allowed to play as much as Roberson did as a sophomore. He was more talented and less rapey.
No. If that was really the case, he would've dominated in D2. He was not more talented than Roberson at all.
He was an offensive player of the year finalist.
http://www.mcneesesports.com/news/2015/11/17/FB_1117151119.aspx
He shared the position his first year there and had similar numbers to Hubs last year. Just saying!
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Sams would have equaled or eclipsed Roberson if he were allowed to play as much as Roberson did as a sophomore. He was more talented and less rapey.
No. If that was really the case, he would've dominated in D2. He was not more talented than Roberson at all.
He was an offensive player of the year finalist.
http://www.mcneesesports.com/news/2015/11/17/FB_1117151119.aspx
He shared the position his first year there and had similar numbers to Hubs last year. Just saying!
If Hubener could have carried the ball 17 times per game and averaged 4.9 ypc, we would have won 10 games last year.
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fwiw, Thompson told hs coaches he likes K-State and is doing well in practice.
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fwiw, Thompson told hs coaches he likes K-State and is doing well in practice.
I'll be interested to hear what he says two years from now as a RS-Soph as JE16 trots his mediocre ass out to a 7-5 season in his senior year.
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If JE16 is still playing at a 7-5 level as a senior Thompson will get an opportunity if he is any good. He will play next season for sure as Ertz still hasn't played an entire game in his college career.
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Brent will recruit someone better than anyone on the roster right now so this is all moot.
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fwiw, Thompson told hs coaches he likes K-State and is doing well in practice.
Fwiw, Hubener said the same exact thing to his old HS coaches.
Damn! He trippin' so hard fans are gonna think he done fell off!
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fwiw, Thompson told hs coaches he likes K-State and is doing well in practice.
I'll be interested to hear what he says two years from now as a RS-Soph as JE16 trots his mediocre ass out to a 7-5 season in his senior year.
You're out of your emo ass mind if you think Ertz would go 7-5 as a third year starter. I'm guessing whomever the coach is then would have an ass nasty defense.
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fwiw, Thompson told hs coaches he likes K-State and is doing well in practice.
I'll be interested to hear what he says two years from now as a RS-Soph as JE16 trots his mediocre ass out to a 7-5 season in his senior year.
You're out of your emo ass mind if you think Ertz would go 7-5 as a third year starter. I'm guessing whomever the coach is then would have an ass nasty defense.
You're probably right. I posted this during my SKC meltdown.
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Best get my name out ya mouth!
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fwiw, Thompson told hs coaches he likes K-State and is doing well in practice.
This just in: college kid tells people back home things are going well.
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Couldn't resist that one. FWIW, I still appreciate any and all tidbits. :thumbs:
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Best get my name out ya mouth!
:D you don't really seem emo though, it's weird.
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Best get my name out ya mouth!
:D you don't really seem emo though, it's weird.
Ya I kinda abandoned this emo character I was going to play on this board. I'm sorta playing a different character now but I haven't really defined him. It's laziness I guess.
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If you 'shopped your avi to add a camo MAGA hat, it would be a good start, imo. :dunno:
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If you 'shopped your avi to add a camo MAGA hat, it would be a good start, imo. :dunno:
maybe wet the beak with a vape pen
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Does yeti make camo hats?
Also maybe a dead elk draped over your shoulders
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Does yeti make camo hats?
Also maybe a dead elk draped over your shoulders
Some of you guys are ruthless SOB's. :ROFL:
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If you 'shopped your avi to add a camo MAGA hat, it would be a good start, imo. :dunno:
maybe wet the beak with a vape pen
I see you Big Cat
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I appreciate the fact that some of you could actually picture me with a dead elk, as if I were capable of actually killing one. :frown: (<-- now that's fuckin emo right there)
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Goes elk hunting, comes home with nothing but a few cuts.