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Title: SUber Sam
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on April 20, 2015, 06:30:35 PM
I love living in an anti-nanny state. Brownback vetos bill adding regulations to Uber (http://www.kansas.com/news/politics-government/article19094037.html)
Title: Re: SUber Sam
Post by: star seed 7 on April 20, 2015, 06:36:16 PM
yup, background checks and insurance are stifling innovation
Title: Re: SUber Sam
Post by: star seed 7 on April 20, 2015, 06:41:29 PM
some great quotes from scott schwab in there tho  :love:
Title: Re: SUber Sam
Post by: Dugout DickStone on April 20, 2015, 07:04:02 PM
Suck it, Jeff Longbine from emporia
Title: Re: SUber Sam
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on April 20, 2015, 07:06:02 PM
some great quotes from scott schwab in there tho  :love:

Yeah, he seems pretty pissed off.
Title: Re: SUber Sam
Post by: sys on April 20, 2015, 07:39:38 PM
good for brownback.  i'm glad to see him get one right.
Title: Re: SUber Sam
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on April 20, 2015, 10:04:03 PM
What kind of cretin isn't a fan of uber????

Oh, 7 is
Title: Re: SUber Sam
Post by: steve dave on April 21, 2015, 10:44:18 AM
good for brownback.  i'm glad to see him get one right.

yes, agreed
Title: Re: SUber Sam
Post by: Dugout DickStone on April 21, 2015, 11:40:07 AM
Question is can a Kansas uber take me to the plaza?
Title: Re: SUber Sam
Post by: MakeItRain on April 21, 2015, 11:46:32 AM
good for brownback.  i'm glad to see him get one right.

yes, agreed

I thought the same until I read the article and saw his excuse for the veto was that the background check requirement that the industry places on itself, in his words, goes farther than the requirements in this bill. If that's the case I don't understand why uber lobbied so hard against it and why it needed to be vetoed. Doesn't matter though the veto will be easily overridden.

I need to know why you guys think that not having convicted sex offenders picking up non-suspecting potential victims and making sure drivers have more than liability insurance is the wrong thing?
Title: Re: SUber Sam
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on April 21, 2015, 11:49:18 AM
good for brownback.  i'm glad to see him get one right.

yes, agreed

I thought the same until I read the article and saw his excuse for the veto was that the background check requirement that the industry places on itself, in his words, goes farther than the requirements in this bill. If that's the case I don't understand why uber lobbied so hard against it and why it needed to be vetoed. Doesn't matter though the veto will be easily overridden.

I need to know why you guys think that not having convicted sex offenders picking up non-suspecting potential victims and making sure drivers have more than liability insurance is the wrong thing?

I'm not sure how easily the veto can be overridden. I doubt most of those who voted for it the first time around were aware that Brownback opposed it. Now that they know, I expect some of them will change their vote.
Title: Re: SUber Sam
Post by: michigancat on April 21, 2015, 11:50:52 AM
I don't know much about the insurance aspect, but I kinda think a background check requirement for drivers seems like a good idea. Was there anything else in the bill?
Title: Re: SUber Sam
Post by: Skipper44 on April 21, 2015, 11:53:56 AM
good for brownback.  i'm glad to see him get one right.

yes, agreed

I thought the same until I read the article and saw his excuse for the veto was that the background check requirement that the industry places on itself, in his words, goes farther than the requirements in this bill. If that's the case I don't understand why uber lobbied so hard against it and why it needed to be vetoed. Doesn't matter though the veto will be easily overridden.

I need to know why you guys think that not having convicted sex offenders picking up non-suspecting potential victims and making sure drivers have more than liability insurance is the wrong thing?
I have read there is a concern that a background check performed by the state could be accessed as a public record by insurance companies and Uber drivers will get their policies cancelled.
Title: Re: SUber Sam
Post by: MakeItRain on April 21, 2015, 11:54:34 AM
I don't know much about the insurance aspect, but I kinda think a background check requirement for drivers seems like a good idea. Was there anything else in the bill?

No
Title: Re: SUber Sam
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on April 21, 2015, 11:56:13 AM
I don't really know anything about it, but know that I know brownback opposes it, I support it.
-libtard
Title: Re: SUber Sam
Post by: michigancat on April 21, 2015, 11:56:22 AM
good for brownback.  i'm glad to see him get one right.

yes, agreed

I thought the same until I read the article and saw his excuse for the veto was that the background check requirement that the industry places on itself, in his words, goes farther than the requirements in this bill. If that's the case I don't understand why uber lobbied so hard against it and why it needed to be vetoed. Doesn't matter though the veto will be easily overridden.

I need to know why you guys think that not having convicted sex offenders picking up non-suspecting potential victims and making sure drivers have more than liability insurance is the wrong thing?
I have read there is a concern that a background check performed by the state could be accessed as a public record by insurance companies and Uber drivers will get their policies cancelled.

ah, that makes sense. It also makes sense that insurance companies want to know if their policy holders are driving for Uber.
Title: Re: SUber Sam
Post by: MakeItRain on April 21, 2015, 11:58:11 AM
good for brownback.  i'm glad to see him get one right.

yes, agreed

I thought the same until I read the article and saw his excuse for the veto was that the background check requirement that the industry places on itself, in his words, goes farther than the requirements in this bill. If that's the case I don't understand why uber lobbied so hard against it and why it needed to be vetoed. Doesn't matter though the veto will be easily overridden.

I need to know why you guys think that not having convicted sex offenders picking up non-suspecting potential victims and making sure drivers have more than liability insurance is the wrong thing?
I have read there is a concern that a background check performed by the state could be accessed as a public record by insurance companies and Uber drivers will get their policies cancelled.

Yeah if they have been popped for possession or dui or violent felonies that's probably a good thing. I doubt they will pull insurance for petty thieves.
Title: Re: SUber Sam
Post by: MakeItRain on April 21, 2015, 11:59:31 AM
I don't really know anything about it, but know that I know brownback opposes it, I support it.
-libtard

Hilariously ironic given that you didn't read the article
Title: Re: SUber Sam
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on April 21, 2015, 12:23:39 PM
good for brownback.  i'm glad to see him get one right.

yes, agreed

I thought the same until I read the article and saw his excuse for the veto was that the background check requirement that the industry places on itself, in his words, goes farther than the requirements in this bill. If that's the case I don't understand why uber lobbied so hard against it and why it needed to be vetoed. Doesn't matter though the veto will be easily overridden.

I need to know why you guys think that not having convicted sex offenders picking up non-suspecting potential victims and making sure drivers have more than liability insurance is the wrong thing?
I have read there is a concern that a background check performed by the state could be accessed as a public record by insurance companies and Uber drivers will get their policies cancelled.

ah, that makes sense. It also makes sense that insurance companies want to know if their policy holders are driving for Uber.

I don't think it should matter if you're delivering pizza or people. No different than neighborhood car pool.
Title: Re: SUber Sam
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on April 21, 2015, 12:26:09 PM
I don't really know anything about it, but know that I know brownback opposes it, I support it.
-libtard

Hilariously ironic given that you didn't read the article

A conjectural and unfounded attack. Way to stay in character.

Title: Re: SUber Sam
Post by: star seed 7 on April 21, 2015, 12:32:46 PM
good for brownback.  i'm glad to see him get one right.

yes, agreed

I thought the same until I read the article and saw his excuse for the veto was that the background check requirement that the industry places on itself, in his words, goes farther than the requirements in this bill. If that's the case I don't understand why uber lobbied so hard against it and why it needed to be vetoed. Doesn't matter though the veto will be easily overridden.

I need to know why you guys think that not having convicted sex offenders picking up non-suspecting potential victims and making sure drivers have more than liability insurance is the wrong thing?
I have read there is a concern that a background check performed by the state could be accessed as a public record by insurance companies and Uber drivers will get their policies cancelled.

ah, that makes sense. It also makes sense that insurance companies want to know if their policy holders are driving for Uber.

I don't think it should matter if you're delivering pizza or people. No different than neighborhood car pool.

Quite a bit different than carpooling really
Title: Re: SUber Sam
Post by: michigancat on April 21, 2015, 12:33:54 PM
well, I can see why you don't need a background check for a pizza delivery guy, but I think an insurance company would also like to know if their drivers are delivering pizza.
Title: Re: SUber Sam
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on April 21, 2015, 12:34:34 PM
All drivers have to have insurance under existing state law, you rubes. Perhaps it's not the amount the legislature wants for uber drivers, and it is almost certainly less than required by cab services (another discussion on how fair competition is). I can't even imagine the backlash and accusations of racism if kansas tried to enforce mandatory "state minimum insurance ID check".

I don't see how the bank should have any say in the matter, and they certainly shouldn't be able to take IC cars as collateral for uber debt. If the driver's borrowed to buy their car, that lien is already on the title.
Title: Re: SUber Sam
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on April 21, 2015, 12:35:58 PM
good for brownback.  i'm glad to see him get one right.

yes, agreed

I thought the same until I read the article and saw his excuse for the veto was that the background check requirement that the industry places on itself, in his words, goes farther than the requirements in this bill. If that's the case I don't understand why uber lobbied so hard against it and why it needed to be vetoed. Doesn't matter though the veto will be easily overridden.

I need to know why you guys think that not having convicted sex offenders picking up non-suspecting potential victims and making sure drivers have more than liability insurance is the wrong thing?
I have read there is a concern that a background check performed by the state could be accessed as a public record by insurance companies and Uber drivers will get their policies cancelled.

ah, that makes sense. It also makes sense that insurance companies want to know if their policy holders are driving for Uber.

I don't think it should matter if you're delivering pizza or people. No different than neighborhood car pool.

Quite a bit different than carpooling really

Didn't peg you as a Big Insurance guy.
Title: Re: SUber Sam
Post by: star seed 7 on April 21, 2015, 12:37:09 PM
Car insurance isn't immoral
Title: Re: SUber Sam
Post by: MakeItRain on April 21, 2015, 12:49:05 PM
All drivers have to have insurance under existing state law, you rubes. Perhaps it's not the amount the legislature wants for uber drivers, and it is almost certainly less than required by cab services (another discussion on how fair competition is). I can't even imagine the backlash and accusations of racism if kansas tried to enforce mandatory "state minimum insurance ID check".

I don't see how the bank should have any say in the matter, and they certainly shouldn't be able to take IC cars as collateral for uber debt. If the driver's borrowed to buy their car, that lien is already on the title.

The law mandates that the uber drivers carry collision coverage more than just liability that the current state law requires. You'd know that if you actually read the article.
Title: Re: SUber Sam
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on April 21, 2015, 01:00:22 PM
All drivers have to have insurance under existing state law, you rubes. Perhaps it's not the amount the legislature wants for uber drivers, and it is almost certainly less than required by cab services (another discussion on how fair competition is). I can't even imagine the backlash and accusations of racism if kansas tried to enforce mandatory "state minimum insurance ID check".

I don't see how the bank should have any say in the matter, and they certainly shouldn't be able to take IC cars as collateral for uber debt. If the driver's borrowed to buy their car, that lien is already on the title.

The law mandates that the uber drivers carry collision coverage more than just liability that the current state law requires. You'd know that if you actually read the article.

You realize collision only insures the driver's vehicle, right? That's the bankers part of this. Obviously that part of the law is stupid. Good grief.
Title: Re: SUber Sam
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on April 21, 2015, 01:08:55 PM
All drivers have to have insurance under existing state law, you rubes. Perhaps it's not the amount the legislature wants for uber drivers, and it is almost certainly less than required by cab services (another discussion on how fair competition is). I can't even imagine the backlash and accusations of racism if kansas tried to enforce mandatory "state minimum insurance ID check".

I don't see how the bank should have any say in the matter, and they certainly shouldn't be able to take IC cars as collateral for uber debt. If the driver's borrowed to buy their car, that lien is already on the title.

The law mandates that the uber drivers carry collision coverage more than just liability that the current state law requires. You'd know that if you actually read the article.

You realize collision only insures the driver's vehicle, right? That's the bankers part of this. Obviously that part of the law is stupid. Good grief.

I'd imagine there is some difference in what the insurance would pay toward the medical bills of the passengers you are driving around as well. I'm not sure, though. All I know about this bill is that it had nearly unanimous support from the house and senate, and now it is vetoed and it will be hilarious if congress can't find the votes to override it.
Title: Re: SUber Sam
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on April 21, 2015, 01:12:42 PM
Now that you're mandated to have medical insurance, it shouldn't matter if you have coverage for your passenger.
Title: Re: SUber Sam
Post by: MakeItRain on April 21, 2015, 01:18:59 PM
All drivers have to have insurance under existing state law, you rubes. Perhaps it's not the amount the legislature wants for uber drivers, and it is almost certainly less than required by cab services (another discussion on how fair competition is). I can't even imagine the backlash and accusations of racism if kansas tried to enforce mandatory "state minimum insurance ID check".

I don't see how the bank should have any say in the matter, and they certainly shouldn't be able to take IC cars as collateral for uber debt. If the driver's borrowed to buy their car, that lien is already on the title.

The law mandates that the uber drivers carry collision coverage more than just liability that the current state law requires. You'd know that if you actually read the article.

You realize collision only insures the driver's vehicle, right? That's the bankers part of this. Obviously that part of the law is stupid. Good grief.

I'd imagine there is some difference in what the insurance would pay toward the medical bills of the passengers you are driving around as well. I'm not sure, though. All I know about this bill is that it had nearly unanimous support from the house and senate, and now it is vetoed and it will be hilarious if congress can't find the votes to override it.

I'm sure they'll lose some votes but it's so overwhelming that I can't see them losing that many. They are 8 votes clear in the senate and 23 votes clear in the house. They could lose 20 percent of the entire legislature and still be good.
Title: Re: SUber Sam
Post by: MakeItRain on April 21, 2015, 01:19:59 PM
Now that you're mandated to have medical insurance, it shouldn't matter if you have coverage for your passenger.

You're kidding, right?
Title: Re: SUber Sam
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on April 21, 2015, 02:30:45 PM
All drivers have to have insurance under existing state law, you rubes. Perhaps it's not the amount the legislature wants for uber drivers, and it is almost certainly less than required by cab services (another discussion on how fair competition is). I can't even imagine the backlash and accusations of racism if kansas tried to enforce mandatory "state minimum insurance ID check".

I don't see how the bank should have any say in the matter, and they certainly shouldn't be able to take IC cars as collateral for uber debt. If the driver's borrowed to buy their car, that lien is already on the title.

The law mandates that the uber drivers carry collision coverage more than just liability that the current state law requires. You'd know that if you actually read the article.

You realize collision only insures the driver's vehicle, right? That's the bankers part of this. Obviously that part of the law is stupid. Good grief.

I'd imagine there is some difference in what the insurance would pay toward the medical bills of the passengers you are driving around as well. I'm not sure, though.

That's called liability insurance, and it's required by law (I think state minimum is still 25/50/25). How do people not know this crap?
Title: Re: SUber Sam
Post by: 06wildcat on April 21, 2015, 04:33:01 PM
All drivers have to have insurance under existing state law, you rubes. Perhaps it's not the amount the legislature wants for uber drivers, and it is almost certainly less than required by cab services (another discussion on how fair competition is). I can't even imagine the backlash and accusations of racism if kansas tried to enforce mandatory "state minimum insurance ID check".

I don't see how the bank should have any say in the matter, and they certainly shouldn't be able to take IC cars as collateral for uber debt. If the driver's borrowed to buy their car, that lien is already on the title.

The law mandates that the uber drivers carry collision coverage more than just liability that the current state law requires. You'd know that if you actually read the article.

You realize collision only insures the driver's vehicle, right? That's the bankers part of this. Obviously that part of the law is stupid. Good grief.

I'd imagine there is some difference in what the insurance would pay toward the medical bills of the passengers you are driving around as well. I'm not sure, though.

That's called liability insurance, and it's required by law (I think state minimum is still 25/50/25). How do people not know this crap?

Personal liability insurance is different than commercial liability insurance for vehicles.
Title: Re: SUber Sam
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on April 21, 2015, 04:36:02 PM
All drivers have to have insurance under existing state law, you rubes. Perhaps it's not the amount the legislature wants for uber drivers, and it is almost certainly less than required by cab services (another discussion on how fair competition is). I can't even imagine the backlash and accusations of racism if kansas tried to enforce mandatory "state minimum insurance ID check".

I don't see how the bank should have any say in the matter, and they certainly shouldn't be able to take IC cars as collateral for uber debt. If the driver's borrowed to buy their car, that lien is already on the title.

The law mandates that the uber drivers carry collision coverage more than just liability that the current state law requires. You'd know that if you actually read the article.

You realize collision only insures the driver's vehicle, right? That's the bankers part of this. Obviously that part of the law is stupid. Good grief.

I'd imagine there is some difference in what the insurance would pay toward the medical bills of the passengers you are driving around as well. I'm not sure, though.

That's called liability insurance, and it's required by law (I think state minimum is still 25/50/25). How do people not know this crap?

Personal liability insurance is different than commercial liability insurance for vehicles.

No crap.
Title: Re: SUber Sam
Post by: 06wildcat on April 21, 2015, 06:56:09 PM
Then stop acting like the state mandate for personal liability insurance is adequate, dumbass.
Title: Re: SUber Sam
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on April 21, 2015, 08:07:05 PM
Then stop acting like the state mandate for personal liability insurance is adequate, dumbass.

 dumbass
Title: Re: SUber Sam
Post by: puniraptor on April 23, 2015, 04:00:02 PM
uber sent me an email about rolling out in manhattan starting TODAY! and they thanked brownie personally!

Title: Re: SUber Sam
Post by: puniraptor on April 23, 2015, 04:01:23 PM
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Title: Re: SUber Sam
Post by: mocat on April 23, 2015, 06:10:03 PM
wtf are they trying to say with that big boring rectangle
Title: Re: SUber Sam
Post by: star seed 7 on April 23, 2015, 06:24:07 PM
I tried three times to unhighlight it before realizing that's just what color it is