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Title: Predict K-State's Win Total for 2015-2016
Post by: DOD Take 2 on April 10, 2015, 12:14:56 PM
I'm going with 9
Title: Re: Predict K-State's Win Total for 2015-2016
Post by: ksupamplemousse on April 10, 2015, 12:22:22 PM
11
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Post by: kso_FAN on April 10, 2015, 12:33:40 PM
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Title: Re: Predict K-State's Win Total for 2015-2016
Post by: Blackcats on April 10, 2015, 12:34:44 PM
10
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Post by: ksupamplemousse on April 10, 2015, 12:35:49 PM
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When Wes leaves, those numbers are going to look much more frightening.
Title: Re: Predict K-State's Win Total for 2015-2016
Post by: Winters on April 10, 2015, 01:14:47 PM
 :cry:
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Post by: Mixed-Nutz on April 10, 2015, 01:15:35 PM
17
Title: Re: Predict K-State's Win Total for 2015-2016
Post by: MakeItRain on April 10, 2015, 01:29:39 PM
17

I had no idea college basketball adopted a 42 game regular season, cool!
Title: Re: Predict K-State's Win Total for 2015-2016
Post by: Havs on April 10, 2015, 01:31:27 PM
My guess is the schedule will be incredibly weak, similar to Fred's first year at ISU, or TCU this year. 12-13 wins.
Title: Re: Predict K-State's Win Total for 2015-2016
Post by: Winters on April 10, 2015, 01:32:17 PM
My guess is the schedule will be incredibly weak, similar to Fred's first year at ISU, or TCU this year. 12-13 wins.
I'm Sad, Havs.
Title: Re: Predict K-State's Win Total for 2015-2016
Post by: MakeItRain on April 10, 2015, 01:39:55 PM
My guess is the schedule will be incredibly weak, similar to Fred's first year at ISU, or TCU this year. 12-13 wins.

It will be pretty similar to this year. We know we're already playing in the CBE, Colorado State in Wichita, at A&M, at Georgia and a home game in the Big 12/SEC Challenge. All of the "he will schedule easy wins" talking point is not a good one, not to mention we lost one of those games.
Title: Re: Predict K-State's Win Total for 2015-2016
Post by: Havs on April 10, 2015, 01:41:30 PM
My guess is the schedule will be incredibly weak, similar to Fred's first year at ISU, or TCU this year. 12-13 wins.

It will be pretty similar to this year. We know we're already playing in the CBE, Colorado State in Wichita, at A&M, at Georgia and a home game in the Big 12/SEC Challenge. All of the "he will schedule easy wins" talking point is not a good one, not to mention we lost one of those games.

Oh God, and A&M is actually supposed to not suck this year too.
Title: Re: Predict K-State's Win Total for 2015-2016
Post by: 8manpick on April 10, 2015, 02:02:57 PM
Hoping for 8
Title: Re: Predict K-State's Win Total for 2015-2016
Post by: ChiComCat on April 10, 2015, 02:06:42 PM
Will be a super easy non-con to pad the win totals

Non-Con 10-3
Conference 4-14
1-1 in Big 12 Tourney because eff us

15-18 with some pats on oscar's back for "not getting worse" in a rebuild that he created
Title: Re: Predict K-State's Win Total for 2015-2016
Post by: meow meow on April 10, 2015, 02:10:06 PM
how in the world could we possibly win 10 non con games?  we lost 6 of them this year, and as MIR already pointed out, our schedule isn't much easier.

8 wins
Title: Re: Predict K-State's Win Total for 2015-2016
Post by: PIPE on April 10, 2015, 02:18:23 PM
Remember the expectations thread started before last year? Ohhhhh, the optimism..... :Woot:

The only hope I have is that, if Duke can win with 8 players, we can too, right? :dunno:

Nevermind......we will suck.  <10 wins  :shakesfist: :sdeek: :Crybaby: :Yuck: :buh-bye: :flush:
Title: Re: Predict K-State's Win Total for 2015-2016
Post by: kso_FAN on April 10, 2015, 02:26:40 PM
8-5
4-14
0-1

12

Here are all the below .500 seasons since K-State's basketball low point of 4-20 in the 45-46 season.

Year   Win    Loss   %-age
64-65   12   13   0.480
70-71   11   15   0.423
82-83   12   16   0.429
83-84   14   15   0.483
90-91   13   15   0.464
94-95   12   15   0.444
96-97   10   17   0.370
99-00   9   19   0.321
00-01   11   18   0.379
01-02   13   16   0.448
02-03   13   17   0.433
14-15   15   17   0.469
Title: Re: Predict K-State's Win Total for 2015-2016
Post by: CHONGS on April 10, 2015, 02:38:14 PM
It really is a race to see if we can break the 20 loss barrier.
Title: Re: Predict K-State's Win Total for 2015-2016
Post by: kso_FAN on April 10, 2015, 02:43:04 PM
It really is a race to see if we can break the 20 loss barrier.

It would be a 70th anniversary feat!
Title: Re: Predict K-State's Win Total for 2015-2016
Post by: ChiComCat on April 10, 2015, 02:44:49 PM
how in the world could we possibly win 10 non con games?  we lost 6 of them this year, and as MIR already pointed out, our schedule isn't much easier.

8 wins

EDIT - Just read MIR's post.  1-1 at sprint.  Losses to SEC schools and Colorado St.  Everyone else will be hot garbage, though may lose one of those as well.
Title: Re: Predict K-State's Win Total for 2015-2016
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on April 10, 2015, 03:12:45 PM
how in the world could we possibly win 10 non con games?  we lost 6 of them this year, and as MIR already pointed out, our schedule isn't much easier.

8 wins

EDIT - Just read MIR's post.  1-1 at sprint.  Losses to SEC schools and Colorado St.  Everyone else will be hot garbage, though may lose one of those as well.

7 Easy Non-Con games
Winnable SEC game at home. (Not going to be a marquee game)
Winnable game against MU (CBE)
Thrashing game (CBE FINAL)
Very winnable game adjacent CSU
2 likely losses with A&M and Georgia

6-3 at home in Big 12 
1-8 on the road in big 12

1-1 in Big 12 Tourney

16-17 could happen
Title: Re: Predict K-State's Win Total for 2015-2016
Post by: CHONGS on April 10, 2015, 03:13:46 PM
But maybe win % is a fairer thing to look at.
Title: Re: Predict K-State's Win Total for 2015-2016
Post by: Brock Landers on April 10, 2015, 03:15:32 PM
I would just like to crack the magical 10 win barrier and get to a double digit win total.  That 9-19 season just looks unbearable.  Somehow the difference between 9 and 10 feels pretty significant (that's what she said?) even though it still means you suck.
Title: Re: Predict K-State's Win Total for 2015-2016
Post by: kso_FAN on April 10, 2015, 03:16:47 PM
how in the world could we possibly win 10 non con games?  we lost 6 of them this year, and as MIR already pointed out, our schedule isn't much easier.

8 wins

EDIT - Just read MIR's post.  1-1 at sprint.  Losses to SEC schools and Colorado St.  Everyone else will be hot garbage, though may lose one of those as well.

7 Easy Non-Con games
Winnable SEC game at home. (Not going to be a marquee game)
Winnable game against MU (CBE)
Thrashing game (CBE FINAL)
Very winnable game adjacent CSU
2 likely losses with A&M and Georgia

6-3 at home in Big 12 
1-8 on the road in big 12

1-1 in Big 12 Tourney

16-17 could happen

I find it difficult to drum up that much optimism with what I see in this program right now. Edwards and Westicles better get A LOT better and at least 2 of the new comers have to be complete studs.
Title: Re: Predict K-State's Win Total for 2015-2016
Post by: The Whale on April 10, 2015, 03:44:19 PM
8-5
4-14
0-1

12

Here are all the below .500 seasons since K-State's basketball low point of 4-20 in the 45-46 season.

Year   Win    Loss   %-age
64-65   12   13   0.480
70-71   11   15   0.423
82-83   12   16   0.429
83-84   14   15   0.483
90-91   13   15   0.464
94-95   12   15   0.444
96-97   10   17   0.370
99-00   9   19   0.321
00-01   11   18   0.379
01-02   13   16   0.448
02-03   13   17   0.433
14-15   15   17   0.469


12 wins should be few enough to get a new coach    :emawkid:
Title: Re: Predict K-State's Win Total for 2015-2016
Post by: #LIFE on April 10, 2015, 03:47:07 PM



12 wins should be few enough to get a new coach    :emawkid:

Doubtful  :frown:
Title: Re: Predict K-State's Win Total for 2015-2016
Post by: CNS on April 10, 2015, 04:41:00 PM
The term "easy win" can GTFOOMF when it comes to the wildwildcats and the near future. 
Title: Re: Predict K-State's Win Total for 2015-2016
Post by: EMAWican on April 10, 2015, 05:12:32 PM
20, now that oscar is getting his own guys on the team.
Title: Re: Predict K-State's Win Total for 2015-2016
Post by: sys on April 10, 2015, 05:26:58 PM
My guess is the schedule will be incredibly weak, similar to Fred's first year at ISU, or TCU this year. 12-13 wins.

It will be pretty similar to this year. We know we're already playing in the CBE, Colorado State in Wichita, at A&M, at Georgia and a home game in the Big 12/SEC Challenge. All of the "he will schedule easy wins" talking point is not a good one, not to mention we lost one of those games.

the cbe may be hard to get out of.  the sec game is impossible.  all the others could be bought out/rescheduled if kstate wanted to.
Title: Re: Predict K-State's Win Total for 2015-2016
Post by: sys on April 10, 2015, 05:30:13 PM
jfc, kstate isn't going to be suiting up empty scholarships.  they'll fill every ship and have goodish/half decent players on the team.  just different goodish/half decent players than were on the team this year.  being better than this year wouldn't surprise me at all.
Title: Re: Predict K-State's Win Total for 2015-2016
Post by: chum1 on April 10, 2015, 05:39:57 PM
This is the exact same thread that exists every year. The form is: WHO IS GOING TO REPLACE _____!?!? The only difference is that there are more players to be replaced this time.
Title: Re: Predict K-State's Win Total for 2015-2016
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on April 10, 2015, 05:59:58 PM
My guess is the schedule will be incredibly weak, similar to Fred's first year at ISU, or TCU this year. 12-13 wins.

It will be pretty similar to this year. We know we're already playing in the CBE, Colorado State in Wichita, at A&M, at Georgia and a home game in the Big 12/SEC Challenge. All of the "he will schedule easy wins" talking point is not a good one, not to mention we lost one of those games.

the cbe may be hard to get out of.  the sec game is impossible.  all the others could be bought out/rescheduled if kstate wanted to.

What kind of money we spend on scheduling will could be very telling what Currie wants to do with program. But, I assume Currie is going to be very neutral, not buy anything out. Not buy or too many expensive gimmes.   
Title: Re: Predict K-State's Win Total for 2015-2016
Post by: That_Guy on April 10, 2015, 06:37:46 PM

20, now that oscar is getting his own guys on the team.

Lol


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Title: Re: Predict K-State's Win Total for 2015-2016
Post by: That_Guy on April 10, 2015, 06:43:58 PM

jfc, kstate isn't going to be suiting up empty scholarships.  they'll fill every ship and have goodish/half decent players on the team.  just different goodish/half decent players than were on the team this year.  being better than this year wouldn't surprise me at all.

Because the coaching didn't play into the performances this past season, right?


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Title: Re: Predict K-State's Win Total for 2015-2016
Post by: kso_FAN on April 10, 2015, 07:17:24 PM


jfc, kstate isn't going to be suiting up empty scholarships.  they'll fill every ship and have goodish/half decent players on the team.  just different goodish/half decent players than were on the team this year.  being better than this year wouldn't surprise me at all.

Because the coaching didn't play into the performances this past season, right?


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To be fair, the coaching and playing was all over the map. But that's oscar's career. You never really know what you might get.
Title: Re: Predict K-State's Win Total for 2015-2016
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on April 10, 2015, 07:49:19 PM


jfc, kstate isn't going to be suiting up empty scholarships.  they'll fill every ship and have goodish/half decent players on the team.  just different goodish/half decent players than were on the team this year.  being better than this year wouldn't surprise me at all.

Because the coaching didn't play into the performances this past season, right?


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To be fair, the coaching and playing was all over the map. But that's oscar's career. You never really know what you might get.

Kenpom Rankings
35 (Nov 14) -> 114 (Jan 7) -> 71 (Jan 27) ->  96 (Feb 11) -> 80 (Mar 11)

Finished the year at 88.

Maybe we would of gotten in to the low 60s if Foster didn't love artichoke.

If Foster didn't get suspended we would of had a shot at being the lowest Kenpom ranked team to get an at large bid.
Title: Re: Predict K-State's Win Total for 2015-2016
Post by: CHONGS on April 10, 2015, 08:33:09 PM
Would we of?
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Post by: Cartierfor3 on April 10, 2015, 08:55:39 PM
Baker's Dozen I reckon
Title: Re: Predict K-State's Win Total for 2015-2016
Post by: sys on April 10, 2015, 10:58:38 PM
Would we of?

no.
Title: Re: Predict K-State's Win Total for 2015-2016
Post by: catzacker on April 10, 2015, 11:04:45 PM
This is the exact same thread that exists every year. The form is: WHO IS GOING TO REPLACE _____!?!? The only difference is that there are more players to be replaced this time.

Seems like a big difference.  I mean, Christians have been searching for like 2 thousand years just to replace one guy, oscar has to replace like 7 guys.
Title: Re: Predict K-State's Win Total for 2015-2016
Post by: MakeItRain on April 10, 2015, 11:19:09 PM
My guess is the schedule will be incredibly weak, similar to Fred's first year at ISU, or TCU this year. 12-13 wins.

It will be pretty similar to this year. We know we're already playing in the CBE, Colorado State in Wichita, at A&M, at Georgia and a home game in the Big 12/SEC Challenge. All of the "he will schedule easy wins" talking point is not a good one, not to mention we lost one of those games.

the cbe may be hard to get out of.  the sec game is impossible.  all the others could be bought out/rescheduled if kstate wanted to.

We aren't getting out of the CBE, wouldn't try anyway so it's not worth discussing. The only of those games that would be under any consideration for buyout are the games at Georgia and at A&M, and a fat :lol: at any thought of a high major selling a home game against another high major, a bad one at that, this late in the process. There is no way in hell we'd pay the money that those schools would request. Getting a down name school on your home court is every schedulers dream. Every team with tournament aspirations would have all home games against the K-States, Rutgers, Ole Miss, Wake Forests, and USCs of this world if they could.
Title: Re: Predict K-State's Win Total for 2015-2016
Post by: sys on April 10, 2015, 11:49:40 PM
We aren't getting out of the CBE, wouldn't try anyway so it's not worth discussing. The only of those games that would be under any consideration for buyout are the games at Georgia and at A&M, and a fat :lol: at any thought of a high major selling a home game against another high major, a bad one at that, this late in the process. There is no way in hell we'd pay the money that those schools would request. Getting a down name school on your home court is every schedulers dream. Every team with tournament aspirations would have all home games against the K-States, Rutgers, Ole Miss, Wake Forests, and USCs of this world if they could.

wouldn't have to buy the game off.  just toss in some considerations to delay the game a year.  if weber is desperate enough, it's a possibility.
Title: Re: Predict K-State's Win Total for 2015-2016
Post by: GoodForAnother on April 11, 2015, 12:06:17 AM
1
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Post by: Rock Lobster on April 11, 2015, 07:26:26 PM
Will the home court winning season streak end next year?
Title: Re: Predict K-State's Win Total for 2015-2016
Post by: Trim on April 11, 2015, 07:46:24 PM
Will the home court winning season streak end next year?

:sdeek:
Title: Re: Predict K-State's Win Total for 2015-2016
Post by: Rock Lobster on April 11, 2015, 08:04:25 PM
Will the home court winning season streak end next year?

:sdeek:

I'm sure you guys have been over this before, but I had to check the online media guide to be sure that we were over .500 in 99-00.

Sure as crap.
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Post by: Rage Against the McKee on April 13, 2015, 10:03:09 AM
10
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Post by: That_Guy on April 13, 2015, 10:25:01 AM
40


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Title: Re: Predict K-State's Win Total for 2015-2016
Post by: AndrewVonLintel on April 13, 2015, 09:36:26 PM
I think we probably will play better against the crappy teams but not have the talent that we need against the good teams.

In a lot of ways I think this year will be more enjoyable than last year but the record will be worse.

I am going to go with 11 wins.  Home wins against Okie State, Texas and Texas Tech. No conference road wins is my thinking at this point. 

If Wooldridge could do it, oscar can too!