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Title: book recommendations
Post by: michigancat on April 20, 2010, 11:30:09 AM
need some...thanks in advance.
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Post by: Kat Kid on April 20, 2010, 11:31:11 AM
what kind?
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Post by: steve dave on April 20, 2010, 11:31:21 AM
reading Empire Falls currently.  Pretty decent.  
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Post by: Dr Rick Daris on April 20, 2010, 11:31:34 AM
frankenstein
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Post by: michigancat on April 20, 2010, 11:33:37 AM
what kind?

Let's start with classic American fiction.  (reading takes a long time)
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Post by: Kat Kid on April 20, 2010, 11:36:28 AM
what kind?

Let's start with classic American fiction.  (reading takes a long time)

(don't be insulted if you've already read)


Grapes of Wrath
Johnny Get Your Gun
Old Man and the Sea (short)
(Hunter S. Thompson if you are open about "classic")
Title: Re: book reccomendations
Post by: michigancat on April 20, 2010, 11:37:46 AM
what kind?

Let's start with classic American fiction.  (reading takes a long time)

(don't be insulted if you've already read)


Grapes of Wrath
Johnny Get Your Gun
Old Man and the Sea (short)
(Hunter S. Thompson if you are open about "classic")

not insulted at all.  There's just a lot of stuff I haven't read.  Hunter S. Thompson would count as classic to me.
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Post by: chum1 on April 20, 2010, 11:39:44 AM
The Sun Also Rises
The Catcher in the Rye
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Post by: _33 on April 20, 2010, 11:40:38 AM
Let me know when we get to the biography portion.  Just read a good one.
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Post by: PandaXpanda on April 20, 2010, 11:50:21 AM
Jason Goodwin's Janissary Tree was really good.  It's fiction, but not American fiction.  

I dunno if travel books are your thing or not but here are a couple that I've really enjoyed.  Arabian Sands by Wilfred Thesiger, Baghdad Without a Map and Confederates in the Attic by Tony Horwitz are all great.
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Post by: mcmwcat on April 20, 2010, 11:56:53 AM
just finished Roman Blood.  it's a historical novel based in ancient rome.  first of a series by Steven Saylor.  pretty good.

'classic' american lit?  hemingway?  anything else I can think of is boring as hell
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Post by: felix rex on April 20, 2010, 11:57:14 AM
Ever read Umberto Eco? Name of the Rose is more well-known, but no less excellent for being so. Foucault's Pendulum is the best, IMO, but I also liked Baudolino.
Title: Re: book reccomendations
Post by: CNS on April 20, 2010, 12:05:09 PM
Winter of our Discontent - Steinbeck

The Moon is Down - Steinbeck

East of Eden - Steinbeck

Tale of Two Cities - Dickens



Title: Re: book reccomendations
Post by: asava on April 20, 2010, 12:10:33 PM
Naked Lunch - William S. Burroughs
On the Road - Jack Kerouac
Big Sur - Jack Kerouac
The Sheltering Sky - Paul Bowles
Short Stories - Paul Bowles
Invisible Man - Ralph Ellison
East of Eden - John Steinbeck
Tropic of Cancer - Henry Miller
Tropic of Capricorn - Henry Miller
Gravity's Rainbow - Thomas Pynchon (very long and complex)
Anything He's Ever Written - Kurt Vonnegut Jr.
Post Office - Charles Bukowski
Pulp - Charles Bukowski
Ham on Rye - Charles Bukowski

if you feel like venturing outside of America, just give the word. Some real incredible stuff out there in that big bad world.
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Post by: nicname on April 20, 2010, 12:14:15 PM
http://artofmanliness.com/2009/06/02/the-essential-man%E2%80%99s-library-adventure-edition-part-one-fiction/

there is also a list including classic non-fiction works.
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Post by: michigancat on April 20, 2010, 12:16:46 PM
i'll start w/ kk's list and go from there.
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Post by: sys on April 20, 2010, 12:34:15 PM
just finished Roman Blood.  it's a historical novel based in ancient rome.  first of a series by Steven Saylor.  pretty good.

i read one of those.  about the catiline uprising.  it was ok i think.  or maybe i read two.  not positive.
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Post by: get_HIT on April 20, 2010, 12:35:08 PM
OMFG!  BEST BOOK EVER!!!!  movie sucked, but the book was killer.



(http://plaintom.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/i_hope_they_serve_beer_in_hell.jpg)
Title: Re: book reccomendations
Post by: CNS on April 20, 2010, 12:59:48 PM
The Godfather
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Post by: mcmwcat on April 20, 2010, 01:04:51 PM
just finished Roman Blood.  it's a historical novel based in ancient rome.  first of a series by Steven Saylor.  pretty good.

i read one of those.  about the catiline uprising.  it was ok i think.  or maybe i read two.  not positive.

Roman Blood is a crime mystery based on Cicero's first big case that gets him noticed.
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Post by: PandaXpanda on April 20, 2010, 01:05:08 PM
The Godfather

Amazing book.
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Post by: asava on April 20, 2010, 01:36:45 PM
i'll start w/ kk's list and go from there.

blatant post count discrimination.
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Post by: michigancat on April 20, 2010, 01:42:28 PM
i'll start w/ kk's list and go from there.

blatant post count discrimination.

actually it was first to reply discrimination.  but whatevs.
Title: Re: book reccomendations
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on April 20, 2010, 01:44:47 PM
i'll start w/ kk's list and go from there.

blatant post count discrimination.

actually it was first to reply discrimination.  but whatevs.

are you sure about that? seems like i offered up the best book ever written quite a while before kk threw up his list. probably just trying to get an invite to kk/wrff/chingon pak #2.
Title: Re: book reccomendations
Post by: Kat Kid on April 20, 2010, 01:45:55 PM
i'll start w/ kk's list and go from there.

blatant post count discrimination.

You know what would've helped?  responding to his question, not your need to show off elite books you've read.  krusty is a simple man, he needs to be eased in, not raped by bourroghs and bowles.
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Post by: michigancat on April 20, 2010, 01:47:03 PM
i'll start w/ kk's list and go from there.

blatant post count discrimination.

You know what would've helped?  responding to his question, not your need to show off elite books you've read.  krusty is a simple man, he needs to be eased in, not raped by bourroghs and bowles.

:frown:
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Post by: steve dave on April 20, 2010, 01:49:37 PM
Empire Falls was the first book mentioned AND I have the most posts  :blank:
Title: Re: book reccomendations
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on April 20, 2010, 01:51:50 PM
i didn't take your post as a recommendation though. just that you were currently reading it. this makes mine the first obvious rec and michigancat is blatently in my face disregarding it. 
Title: Re: book reccomendations
Post by: asava on April 20, 2010, 01:57:33 PM
i'll start w/ kk's list and go from there.

blatant post count discrimination.

You know what would've helped?  responding to his question, not your need to show off elite books you've read.  krusty is a simple man, he needs to be eased in, not raped by bourroghs and bowles.

GTFO. i simply made recommendations based on his category. recommendations on what I think are the true great american works. if he wants to read pedantic, everyday, highschool crap then let him go ahead: read faulkner, read fitsgerald, read the boring steinbeck works, read the easy hemmingway. he's not a child.

judging by his taste in music i think he would enjoy most, if not all of those books. if i wanted to show off i would have actually answered his question, instead of referring him to a bunch of american contemporary classics.

side bar: you are the one who suggested hunter s. which i agree with, but you opened up the flood gates.

krusty, if you are going to read thompson please read The Rum Diary first. k thx.
Title: Re: book reccomendations
Post by: chum1 on April 20, 2010, 02:01:51 PM
No, the classics should be read first.  The other stuff only if you have way too much time on your hands.
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Post by: asava on April 20, 2010, 02:03:52 PM
No, the classics should be read first.  The other stuff only if you have way too much time on your hands.

then read emerson, thoreau*, poe, melville.


forgot about the fiction requirement.
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Post by: Chingon on April 20, 2010, 02:11:32 PM
Does it have to be early American?
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Post by: Kat Kid on April 20, 2010, 02:13:03 PM
you could only read 20th century American "classics" and have a hell of a long reading list.  I agree on rum diaries, I didn't read it first but it works better probably.
Title: Re: book reccomendations
Post by: michigancat on April 20, 2010, 02:17:00 PM
Does it have to be early American?

no.  I'm really flexible.  I just though American fiction would be a nice place to start.
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Post by: Dr Rick Daris on April 20, 2010, 02:18:23 PM
Does it have to be early American?

no.  I'm really flexible.  I just though American fiction would be a nice place to start.


FRANKENSTEIN!!!  :curse: :angry:
Title: Re: book reccomendations
Post by: Chingon on April 20, 2010, 02:29:11 PM
I enjoyed the Baroque Cycle by Neal Stephenson.  Its pretty new though.

I would also highly recommend the following American Fiction

Cloudsplitter (its about John Brown, but fiction) by Russell Banks
The Sotweed Factor (very funny book) by John Barth (I have read almost all of his stuff an like it, but this is his best)
The Penelopiad by Margaret Atwood (she Canadian though!)
Title: Re: book reccomendations
Post by: sys on April 20, 2010, 03:03:40 PM
Roman Blood is a crime mystery based on Cicero's first big case that gets him noticed.

hey, i think that's one i read!  maybe i read three of those.
Title: Re: book reccomendations
Post by: sys on April 20, 2010, 03:06:47 PM
read the easy hemmingway.

reading hemmingway is funny.  that guy got away with murder.  like some modern artist that everyone thinks is a genius, but 50 years later is revealed to be an elephant.
Title: Re: book reccomendations
Post by: PurpleScarf on April 20, 2010, 03:07:34 PM
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GTFO. i simply made recommendations based on his category. recommendations on what I think are the true great american works. if he wants to read pedantic, everyday, highschool crap then let him go ahead: read faulkner, read fitsgerald, read the boring steinbeck works, read the easy hemmingway. he's not a child.

judging by his taste in music i think he would enjoy most, if not all of those books. if i wanted to show off i would have actually answered his question, instead of referring him to a bunch of american contemporary classics.

side bar: you are the one who suggested hunter s. which i agree with, but you opened up the flood gates.

krusty, if you are going to read thompson please read The Rum Diary first. k thx.


LMAO. Asava just because you got slapped by the hipster dick doesn't mean michigancat has to as well. Nothing pedestrian about Faulkner, though I do agree with you on Steinbeck. But some things are considered classics or popular for a reason, so get over it- just because it's not Bukowski doesn't mean it's not worth reading.

Other good stuff to try would be  Beloved by Toni Morrison, Lolita by Vladimir Nabokov, Cane by Jean Toomer, or The Remains of the Day by Kazuo Ishiguro if you feel like moving out of the American stuff.
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Post by: steve dave on April 20, 2010, 03:08:06 PM
read the easy hemmingway.

reading hemmingway is funny.  that guy got away with murder.  like some modern artist that everyone thinks is a genius, but 50 years later is revealed to be an elephant.

or warhol
Title: Re: book reccomendations
Post by: sys on April 20, 2010, 03:09:19 PM
Other good stuff to try would be  Beloved by Toni Morrison, Lolita by Vladimir Nabokov, Cane by Jean Toomer, or The Remains of the Day by Kazuo Ishiguro if you feel like moving out of the American stuff.

great author, but her worst book.  great book.
Title: Re: book reccomendations
Post by: Pete on April 20, 2010, 03:11:58 PM
Most of these fracking suggestions are just to try and show how fancy pantsy these dumb fracks are.

I have a suggestion for you.  I heard of this book when listening to the Tony Kornheiser show...he told the listeners that if they bought this book and read it, he'd refund their money if they didn't like it.  I bought it and I read it.  One of the best fracking books I have ever read.  

You will say "holy crap" aloud as you read this book prolly 50 times.

(http://www.coverbrowser.com/image/bestselling-mystery-thriller-2008/662-5.jpg)
Title: Re: book reccomendations
Post by: PurpleScarf on April 20, 2010, 03:12:25 PM
Other good stuff to try would be  Beloved by Toni Morrison, Lolita by Vladimir Nabokov, Cane by Jean Toomer, or The Remains of the Day by Kazuo Ishiguro if you feel like moving out of the American stuff.

great author, but her worst book.  great book.

Which Morrison do you prefer more? I don't know if Beloved is her best, but I think it or Song of Solomon are good intros to the way she writes.

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Post by: Jeffy on April 20, 2010, 03:13:18 PM
1984

The Federalist Papers

any of the Vince Flynn books with Mitch Rapp as the main character.
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Post by: sys on April 20, 2010, 03:14:04 PM
I have a suggestion for you....

stephen hunter is really good.
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Post by: steve dave on April 20, 2010, 03:14:33 PM
Rusty:  Winds of War / War and Rememberance by Hermen Wouk <!!!!!!
Title: Re: book reccomendations
Post by: asava on April 20, 2010, 03:17:18 PM
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GTFO. i simply made recommendations based on his category. recommendations on what I think are the true great american works. if he wants to read pedantic, everyday, highschool crap then let him go ahead: read faulkner, read fitsgerald, read the boring steinbeck works, read the easy hemmingway. he's not a child.

judging by his taste in music i think he would enjoy most, if not all of those books. if i wanted to show off i would have actually answered his question, instead of referring him to a bunch of american contemporary classics.

side bar: you are the one who suggested hunter s. which i agree with, but you opened up the flood gates.

krusty, if you are going to read thompson please read The Rum Diary first. k thx.


LMAO. Asava just because you got slapped by the hipster dick doesn't mean michigancat has to as well. Nothing pedestrian about Faulkner, though I do agree with you on Steinbeck. But some things are considered classics or popular for a reason, so get over it- just because it's not Bukowski doesn't mean it's not worth reading.

Other good stuff to try would be  Beloved by Toni Morrison, Lolita by Vladimir Nabokov, Cane by Jean Toomer, or The Remains of the Day by Kazuo Ishiguro if you feel like moving out of the American stuff.


i believe we were intended to stay in america, guy. so nabokov is out, so is Ishiguro. if you really wanted to have that discussion i would blow your world apart with so many french, czech, japanese, and russian authors you would have crap yourself. if we wanted to drift away from fiction i would further drink your milkshake.

and bukowski is about the only "hipster" author i mentioned, and i didn't place him above or below any of the others. the rest are fairly tested american literary giants. so don't tee off on one author i mentioned just because modest mouse made a shitty song about him. and just because a bunch of kids in skinny jeans started reading an author doesn't discredit his work. his prose is one of the best of his generation, but his poetry is where its at.

gtfo
Title: Re: book reccomendations
Post by: sys on April 20, 2010, 03:20:03 PM
Which Morrison do you prefer more? I don't know if Beloved is her best, but I think it or Song of Solomon are good intros to the way she writes.

i loved song of solomon. one of the better books i ever read.  kinda weird that you'd link beloved and sos, 'cause to me those are at opposite ends of the spectrum in terms of morrison quality.

1.  sos
2.  tar baby
3.  bluest eye.
4.  blank to indicate a substantial gap in quality
5.  sula
6.  haven't liked anything else she's written
Title: Re: book reccomendations
Post by: Chingon on April 20, 2010, 03:21:01 PM
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GTFO. i simply made recommendations based on his category. recommendations on what I think are the true great american works. if he wants to read pedantic, everyday, highschool crap then let him go ahead: read faulkner, read fitsgerald, read the boring steinbeck works, read the easy hemmingway. he's not a child.

judging by his taste in music i think he would enjoy most, if not all of those books. if i wanted to show off i would have actually answered his question, instead of referring him to a bunch of american contemporary classics.

side bar: you are the one who suggested hunter s. which i agree with, but you opened up the flood gates.

krusty, if you are going to read thompson please read The Rum Diary first. k thx.


LMAO. Asava just because you got slapped by the hipster dick doesn't mean michigancat has to as well. Nothing pedestrian about Faulkner, though I do agree with you on Steinbeck. But some things are considered classics or popular for a reason, so get over it- just because it's not Bukowski doesn't mean it's not worth reading.

Other good stuff to try would be  Beloved by Toni Morrison, Lolita by Vladimir Nabokov, Cane by Jean Toomer, or The Remains of the Day by Kazuo Ishiguro if you feel like moving out of the American stuff.


i believe we were intended to stay in america, guy. so nabokov is out, so is Ishiguro. if you really wanted to have that discussion i would blow your world apart with so many french, czech, japanese, and russian authors you would have crap yourself. if we wanted to drift away from fiction i would further drink your milkshake.

and bukowski is about the only "hipster" author i mentioned, and i didn't place him above or below any of the others. the rest are fairly tested american literary giants. so don't tee off on one author i mentioned just because modest mouse made a shitty song about him. and just because a bunch of kids in skinny jeans started reading an author doesn't discredit his work. his prose is one of the best of his generation, but his poetry is where its at.

gtfo
:bwpopcorn:
Title: Re: book reccomendations
Post by: PurpleScarf on April 20, 2010, 03:31:39 PM
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i believe we were intended to stay in america, guy. so nabokov is out, so is Ishiguro. if you really wanted to have that discussion i would blow your world apart with so many french, czech, japanese, and russian authors you would have crap yourself. if we wanted to drift away from fiction i would further drink your milkshake.

and bukowski is about the only "hipster" author i mentioned, and i didn't place him above or below any of the others. the rest are fairly tested american literary giants. so don't tee off on one author i mentioned just because modest mouse made a shitty song about him. and just because a bunch of kids in skinny jeans started reading an author doesn't discredit his work. his prose is one of the best of his generation, but his poetry is where its at.

gtfo

Please, by all means, try to blow my world apart. I'm ready. If you want to limit Nabokov to being just a Russian author, do so at your own preference. I'm pretty sure most people consider him a little bit of everything.

You talk like a hipster, you drop books like a hipster, and you act like you can drop your little world lit knowledge bombs on the rest of us like a hipster. I'm going to call you out for it, especially when you sound like you don't know what the eff you're talking about. You can get the eff out, little boy, if you can't deal with it.

We'll see in the course of time how Bukowski turns out. For now, he suffers from the reputation that assholes like you like him, so maybe he isn't all that great.

I am more than willing to suggest or stick to American lit, but it seems like everyone else had some good stuff to suggest, and I didn't want to repeat. And michigancat also noted that American lit was just where he wanted to start, not completely limit suggestions.
Title: Re: book reccomendations
Post by: Pete on April 20, 2010, 03:34:32 PM
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GTFO. i simply made recommendations based on his category. recommendations on what I think are the true great american works. if he wants to read pedantic, everyday, highschool crap then let him go ahead: read faulkner, read fitsgerald, read the boring steinbeck works, read the easy hemmingway. he's not a child.

judging by his taste in music i think he would enjoy most, if not all of those books. if i wanted to show off i would have actually answered his question, instead of referring him to a bunch of american contemporary classics.

side bar: you are the one who suggested hunter s. which i agree with, but you opened up the flood gates.

krusty, if you are going to read thompson please read The Rum Diary first. k thx.


LMAO. Asava just because you got slapped by the hipster dick doesn't mean michigancat has to as well. Nothing pedestrian about Faulkner, though I do agree with you on Steinbeck. But some things are considered classics or popular for a reason, so get over it- just because it's not Bukowski doesn't mean it's not worth reading.

Other good stuff to try would be  Beloved by Toni Morrison, Lolita by Vladimir Nabokov, Cane by Jean Toomer, or The Remains of the Day by Kazuo Ishiguro if you feel like moving out of the American stuff.


i believe we were intended to stay in america, guy. so nabokov is out, so is Ishiguro. if you really wanted to have that discussion i would blow your world apart with so many french, czech, japanese, and russian authors you would have crap yourself. if we wanted to drift away from fiction i would further drink your milkshake.

and bukowski is about the only "hipster" author i mentioned, and i didn't place him above or below any of the others. the rest are fairly tested american literary giants. so don't tee off on one author i mentioned just because modest mouse made a shitty song about him. and just because a bunch of kids in skinny jeans started reading an author doesn't discredit his work. his prose is one of the best of his generation, but his poetry is where its at.

gtfo
:bwpopcorn:

You know what is fun about reading those books?  Nothing.

I just got done with "Jumper."  Completely different from the movie in every way, thankfully.  Really cool stuff about teleporting and what you would do with the power. 

Also, Black Hawk Down was another fun read.....much better experience than the movie.   Lots of dudes getting shot in the face and stuff.

Oh, and here's an oldy but a goody....the Clan of the Cave Bear series.   There's a reason every house wife in America was obsessed with those books 20 years ago....lots of sexual exploration combined with killing Sabre tooth tigers and crap....awesome.
Title: Re: book reccomendations
Post by: sys on April 20, 2010, 03:37:38 PM
book recommendation for rusty in michigan.  this isn't a "best book i've read", or a "book that i want to talk about", or a "fictional book that was written by an american" mention.  this is a book, carefully selected to appeal to michigancat, that he would enjoy reading.  michy, read this book.

(http://www.timparks.com/seasoncover.jpg)
Title: Re: book reccomendations
Post by: michigancat on April 20, 2010, 03:42:54 PM
book recommendation for rusty in michigan.  this isn't a "best book i've read", or a "book that i want to talk about", or a "fictional book that was written by an american" mention.  this is a book, carefully selected to appeal to michigancat, that he would enjoy reading.  michy, read this book.

(http://www.timparks.com/seasoncover.jpg)

this would have passed kk's recc's, but my library doesn't have it.  :frown:
Title: Re: book reccomendations
Post by: asava on April 20, 2010, 03:52:40 PM
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i believe we were intended to stay in america, guy. so nabokov is out, so is Ishiguro. if you really wanted to have that discussion i would blow your world apart with so many french, czech, japanese, and russian authors you would have crap yourself. if we wanted to drift away from fiction i would further drink your milkshake.

and bukowski is about the only "hipster" author i mentioned, and i didn't place him above or below any of the others. the rest are fairly tested american literary giants. so don't tee off on one author i mentioned just because modest mouse made a shitty song about him. and just because a bunch of kids in skinny jeans started reading an author doesn't discredit his work. his prose is one of the best of his generation, but his poetry is where its at.

gtfo

Please, by all means, try to blow my world apart. I'm ready. If you want to limit Nabokov to being just a Russian author, do so at your own preference. I'm pretty sure most people consider him a little bit of everything.

You talk like a hipster, you drop books like a hipster, and you act like you can drop your little world lit knowledge bombs on the rest of us like a hipster. I'm going to call you out for it, especially when you sound like you don't know what the shazbot! you're talking about. You can get the shazbot! out, little boy, if you can't deal with it.

We'll see in the course of time how Bukowski turns out. For now, he suffers from the reputation that assholes like you like him, so maybe he isn't all that great.

I am more than willing to suggest or stick to American lit, but it seems like everyone else had some good stuff to suggest, and I didn't want to repeat. And michigancat also noted that American lit was just where he wanted to start, not completely limit suggestions.

you are so mean!  :bawl:

If you are going to talk Nabokov talk Luzin Defense, or Despair. Talk about his use of intertextual themes and commentary. Not saying Lolita isn't fantastic, just recognize that its not his best work. Nabokov was born in Russia, and is most certainly a Russian novelist. Just because he later came to America doesn't negate his upbringings and influences (Pushkin.. et. al.).

This is honestly pretty hilarious. If you would like to make up some sort of sweet literature quiz for me so I can prove to you, some guy i care immensely about, that i'm not a hipster, go ahead. If you'd like I could post links to all the essay's i've ever written over all the books i've studied while in college and you can critique me (H for hipster).

Just because I insulted your Faulkner doesn't mean you have to get your panties in a bunch. Its not that I don't like his stream of consciousness, its that i like Burroughs' better.

But I get it, because I'm well read I'm a hipster. Because I named some of my favorite American works, I'm a hipster. But because you've read Beloved (Oprah's book club), you are above me and therefore own me.

Give it a rest.

Title: Re: book reccomendations
Post by: PurpleScarf on April 20, 2010, 04:02:16 PM
 :rolleyes:
Yes, lets do give it a rest. I think we're being nudged away from our pissing contest by others.
 
Just because I happen to suggest something that Oprah has read doesn't mean I haven't read anything else. And I'm pretty sure you're the one pretending to own people by demonstrating how awesome you are to have read everything you listed and then making fun of everyone else's suggestions. 

But in all honesty, let's move on. I don't think we will resolve this. Think what you think, I'll think what I think, but spare everyone the lectures of how lame we are.
Title: Re: book reccomendations
Post by: CNS on April 20, 2010, 04:04:18 PM
read the easy hemmingway.

reading hemmingway is funny.  that guy got away with murder.  like some modern artist that everyone thinks is a genius, but 50 years later is revealed to be an elephant.

The only Hemmingway I have liked is For Whom the Bell Tolls.
Title: Re: book reccomendations
Post by: felix rex on April 20, 2010, 04:05:30 PM
Which Morrison do you prefer more? I don't know if Beloved is her best, but I think it or Song of Solomon are good intros to the way she writes.

i loved song of solomon. one of the better books i ever read.  kinda weird that you'd link beloved and sos, 'cause to me those are at opposite ends of the spectrum in terms of morrison quality.

I always thought "They shoot the white girl first" was one of the best opening lines for a book. Ironically, I did not finish that book.
Title: Re: book reccomendations
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on April 20, 2010, 04:10:48 PM
you guys ever do those choose your own adventures? those were great. what about madlibs? does a madlib count as a book? also, frankenstein.
Title: Re: book reccomendations
Post by: felix rex on April 20, 2010, 04:11:35 PM
Have you considered short stories? They're great for beach reads. Carver is great if you're not prone to depression.
Title: Re: book reccomendations
Post by: felix rex on April 20, 2010, 04:12:03 PM
you guys ever do those choose your own adventures? those were great. what about madlibs? does a madlib count as a book? also, frankenstein.

I never didn't cheat at those.
Title: Re: book reccomendations
Post by: asava on April 20, 2010, 04:14:38 PM
:rolleyes:
Yes, lets do give it a rest. I think we're being nudged away from our pissing contest by others.
 
Just because I happen to suggest something that Oprah has read doesn't mean I haven't read anything else. And I'm pretty sure you're the one pretending to own people by demonstrating how awesome you are to have read everything you listed and then making fun of everyone else's suggestions. 

But in all honesty, let's move on. I don't think we will resolve this. Think what you think, I'll think what I think, but spare everyone the lectures of how lame we are.

if you paid attention you'll see that I didn't make fun of anything until my suggestions went under fire. imho i don't care much for much of the authors i called high school. but i called them that because they are what is taught in most high school english classes. not saying its a bad thing, but there is a large world outside of those authors. my suggestions were merely just a suggestion. i wasn't running around flexing literary muscles discussing the disintegration of Louis Ferdinand Celine, or the incredible works of Yukio Mishima. you're the one who called me hipster dick slapped. meanie.

Have you considered short stories? They're great for beach reads. Carver is great if you're not prone to depression.

also for pooping. very good for pooping.
Title: Re: book reccomendations
Post by: Pete on April 20, 2010, 04:16:38 PM
Mods, please change title of this thread to "Books no one wants to read."
Title: Re: book reccomendations
Post by: felix rex on April 20, 2010, 04:19:31 PM
:rolleyes:
Yes, lets do give it a rest. I think we're being nudged away from our pissing contest by others.
 
Just because I happen to suggest something that Oprah has read doesn't mean I haven't read anything else. And I'm pretty sure you're the one pretending to own people by demonstrating how awesome you are to have read everything you listed and then making fun of everyone else's suggestions. 

But in all honesty, let's move on. I don't think we will resolve this. Think what you think, I'll think what I think, but spare everyone the lectures of how lame we are.

if you paid attention you'll see that I didn't make fun of anything until my suggestions went under fire. imho i don't care much for much of the authors i called high school. but i called them that because they are what is taught in most high school english classes. not saying its a bad thing, but there is a large world outside of those authors. my suggestions were merely just a suggestion. i wasn't running around flexing literary muscles discussing the disintegration of Louis Ferdinand Celine, or the incredible works of Yukio Mishima. you're the one who called me hipster dick slapped. meanie.

Have you considered short stories? They're great for beach reads. Carver is great if you're not prone to depression.

also for pooping. very good for pooping.


Ha. Yep. Have kept a new anthology in the bathroom every year. Is that rusty was looking for? Pooping material? Maybe some clarification here.
Title: Re: book reccomendations
Post by: asava on April 20, 2010, 04:23:40 PM
Mods, please change title of this thread to "Books no one wants to read Books that are good on the pooper."
Title: Re: book reccomendations
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on April 20, 2010, 04:28:17 PM
Mods, please change title of this thread to "Books no one wants to read."


 :curse:

(http://images-eu.amazon.com/images/P/0192833669.02.LZZZZZZZ.jpg)
Title: Re: book reccomendations
Post by: Johnny Wichita on April 20, 2010, 04:30:43 PM
Sitting on my desk at the moment.  The Rum Diary and Women.  Haven't read Women yet.  Re-read the Rum Diary last summer.  Still love it.   

Side note:  not sitting on my desk:  Frankenstein. 
Title: Re: book reccomendations
Post by: Chingon on April 20, 2010, 04:30:59 PM
Mods, please change title of this thread to "Books no one wants to read."


 :curse:

(http://images-eu.amazon.com/images/P/0192833669.02.LZZZZZZZ.jpg)
Saw the movie, it sucked. next.
Title: Re: book reccomendations
Post by: asava on April 20, 2010, 04:31:40 PM
Mods, please change title of this thread to "Books no one wants to read."


 :curse:

(http://images-eu.amazon.com/images/P/0192833669.02.LZZZZZZZ.jpg)

you really really like this book. definitely a good one. but man, you like that book.
Title: Re: book reccomendations
Post by: Chingon on April 20, 2010, 04:34:08 PM
Maybe rd should have sex with it....
Title: Re: book reccomendations
Post by: Pete on April 20, 2010, 04:35:22 PM
Mods, please change title of this thread to "Books no one wants to read."


 :curse:

(http://images-eu.amazon.com/images/P/0192833669.02.LZZZZZZZ.jpg)

YUCK!  Old English is for losers ('cept for Count of Monte Christo).

Title: Re: book reccomendations
Post by: Johnny Wichita on April 20, 2010, 04:37:31 PM
Maybe rd should have sex with it....

Well played.  Everyone was thinking it. 


<----- another side note:  pic of HST writing The Rum Diary (or maybe getting his inspiration)
Title: Re: book reccomendations
Post by: chum1 on April 20, 2010, 04:39:56 PM
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51XKgNrxrPL._SS500_.jpg)
Title: Re: book reccomendations
Post by: Ghost of Stan Parrish on April 20, 2010, 04:41:51 PM
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51XKgNrxrPL._SS500_.jpg)

Like!

I don't know why, but I can't read most fiction.  A lot of it does nothing more than annoy me.

I'll read a thousand pages about the transition of Europe during the years 400 to 1000, but hand me Hemmingway or Kerouak or "Catch-22" and...
 :zzz:
Title: Re: book reccomendations
Post by: Cire on April 20, 2010, 04:53:43 PM
A Prayer for Owen Meany.
Title: Re: book reccomendations
Post by: chum1 on April 20, 2010, 04:53:51 PM
I'll read a thousand pages about the transition of Europe during the years 400 to 1000, but hand me Hemmingway or Kerouak or "Catch-22" and...
 :zzz:

Yeah, history is fascinating.  I saw that people were reading historical fiction and was like, "WTF, mates?  Read the real deal."  But I didn't say anything.
Title: Re: book reccomendations
Post by: asava on April 20, 2010, 04:58:35 PM
I'll read a thousand pages about the transition of Europe during the years 400 to 1000, but hand me Hemmingway or Kerouak or "Catch-22" and...
 :zzz:

Yeah, history is fascinating.  I saw that people were reading historical fiction and was like, "WTF, mates?  Read the real deal."  But I didn't say anything.

Not a fan of Ambrose?
Title: Re: book reccomendations
Post by: Pete on April 20, 2010, 05:01:24 PM
I'll read a thousand pages about the transition of Europe during the years 400 to 1000, but hand me Hemmingway or Kerouak or "Catch-22" and...
 :zzz:

Yeah, history is fascinating.  I saw that people were reading historical fiction and was like, "WTF, mates?  Read the real deal."  But I didn't say anything.

Not a fan of Ambrose?

NO ONE IS!   :curse:  rough ridin' nerd count on this board is through the roof.
Title: Re: book reccomendations
Post by: asava on April 20, 2010, 05:05:41 PM
I'll read a thousand pages about the transition of Europe during the years 400 to 1000, but hand me Hemmingway or Kerouak or "Catch-22" and...
 :zzz:

Yeah, history is fascinating.  I saw that people were reading historical fiction and was like, "WTF, mates?  Read the real deal."  But I didn't say anything.

Not a fan of Ambrose?

NO ONE IS!   :curse:  fracking nerd count on this board is through the roof.

You're the nerd, nerd.
Title: Re: book reccomendations
Post by: michigancat on April 20, 2010, 05:15:53 PM
ok, someone recommend some good historical non-fiction, too, please.  Read "With the Old Breed" already.
Title: Re: book reccomendations
Post by: asava on April 20, 2010, 05:24:55 PM
ok, someone recommend some good historical non-fiction, too, please.  Read "With the Old Breed" already.

haven't read it, but i've been given "Team of Rivals" by Doris Goodwin. Abe Lincoln looks stunning on the cover.
Title: Re: book reccomendations
Post by: michigancat on April 20, 2010, 05:28:15 PM
ok, someone recommend some good historical non-fiction, too, please.  Read "With the Old Breed" already.

haven't read it, but i've been given "Team of Rivals" by Doris Goodwin. Abe Lincoln looks stunning on the cover.

she's always really good on the Daily Show.  AND MY SH*TTY LOCAL LIBRARY HAS IT!  :ksu:
Title: Re: book reccomendations
Post by: Cire on April 20, 2010, 05:36:19 PM
Founding Brothers is a good.  1776 is good.

Team of Rivals.

The Republic of Pirates is GREAT.
Title: Re: book reccomendations
Post by: pissclams on April 20, 2010, 06:12:28 PM
read the easy hemmingway.

reading hemmingway is funny.  that guy got away with murder.  like some modern artist that everyone thinks is a genius, but 50 years later is revealed to be an elephant.

or warhol
of half of this board's posters (the one's people think are good)
Title: Re: book reccomendations
Post by: asava on April 20, 2010, 06:27:00 PM
read the easy hemmingway.

reading hemmingway is funny.  that guy got away with murder.  like some modern artist that everyone thinks is a genius, but 50 years later is revealed to be an elephant.

or warhol
of half of this board's posters (the one's people think are good)

Juuuuuuiiiicyy! Do tell.
Title: Re: book reccomendations
Post by: jmlynch1 on April 21, 2010, 12:45:10 AM
The Sun Also Rises
The Catcher in the Rye

:katpak:
Title: Re: book reccomendations
Post by: jmlynch1 on April 21, 2010, 01:01:23 AM
ok, someone recommend some good historical non-fiction, too, please.  Read "With the Old Breed" already.

haven't read it, but i've been given "Team of Rivals" by Doris Goodwin. Abe Lincoln looks stunning on the cover.
Did you have to read Darkness at Noon in Prague?
Title: Re: book reccomendations
Post by: Kat Kid on April 21, 2010, 04:54:27 AM
Read Kafka (great short storiea).  Then you get to call things "Kafka-esque."
Title: Re: book reccomendations
Post by: PoetWarrior on April 21, 2010, 07:40:40 AM
Notes from the Underground.

The only fiction I'd recommend.

EDIT:

The Plant Sitter.
Title: Re: book reccomendations
Post by: michigancat on April 21, 2010, 07:42:27 AM
ok, someone recommend some good historical non-fiction, too, please.  Read "With the Old Breed" already.

haven't read it, but i've been given "Team of Rivals" by Doris Goodwin. Abe Lincoln looks stunning on the cover.

read the first chapter, and a :moreira: for asava.

Great book.  Will fill a lot of the boring Michigan spring.
Title: Re: book reccomendations
Post by: steve dave on April 21, 2010, 07:47:52 AM
ok, someone recommend some good historical non-fiction, too, please.  Read "With the Old Breed" already.

Rusty, for eff sakes, read Winds of War and then War and Rememberance.  They go every other chapter Historical Fiction/History.  They are also the best books I ever read.  FOR eff SAKES!
Title: Re: book reccomendations
Post by: michigancat on April 21, 2010, 07:54:03 AM
ok, someone recommend some good historical non-fiction, too, please.  Read "With the Old Breed" already.

Rusty, for shazbot! sakes, read Winds of War and then War and Rememberance.  They go every other chapter Historical Fiction/History.  They are also the best books I ever read.  FOR shazbot! SAKES!

Man, I still have like 750 pages of Team of Rivals and I'm already confused by your book.
Title: Re: book reccomendations
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on April 21, 2010, 07:56:27 AM
ok, someone recommend some good historical non-fiction, too, please.  Read "With the Old Breed" already.

Rusty, for shazbot! sakes, read Winds of War and then War and Rememberance.  They go every other chapter Historical Fiction/History.  They are also the best books I ever read.  FOR shazbot! SAKES!

Man, I still have like 750 pages of Team of Rivals and I'm already confused by your book.


FRANKENSTEIN!
Title: Re: book reccomendations
Post by: Saulbadguy on April 21, 2010, 08:14:53 AM
A few years back I read a book named "Without Vodka", a Polish prisoner of wars accounts of world war 2.  Was pretty interesting.
Title: Re: book reccomendations
Post by: michigancat on April 21, 2010, 08:17:21 AM
A few years back I read a book named "Without Vodka", a Polish prisoner of wars accounts of world war 2.  Was pretty interesting.

There's just so much sh*t that's happened.  I want to know all about it, but it would take a really long time.
Title: Re: book reccomendations
Post by: Cire on April 21, 2010, 08:17:56 AM
Guns of August
Title: Re: book reccomendations
Post by: Cire on April 21, 2010, 08:18:53 AM
Newt Gingrich wrote a book about Gettysburg and framed it as the South Won the battle.
Title: Re: book reccomendations
Post by: Saulbadguy on April 21, 2010, 08:19:14 AM
A few years back I read a book named "Without Vodka", a Polish prisoner of wars accounts of world war 2.  Was pretty interesting.

There's just so much sh*t that's happened.  I want to know all about it, but it would take a really long time.
World War 2 history buffs annoy me.  Just thought i'd bring that out there.  They weren't there, and have no idea what some general was really thinking.  

But this book portrayed genuine human suffering and remorse.
Title: Re: book reccomendations
Post by: asava on April 21, 2010, 12:45:53 PM
ok, someone recommend some good historical non-fiction, too, please.  Read "With the Old Breed" already.

haven't read it, but i've been given "Team of Rivals" by Doris Goodwin. Abe Lincoln looks stunning on the cover.
Did you have to read Darkness at Noon in Prague?

Don't think so. However I read a crap ton while there. Pretty much took all lit classes. Was it a short story or a novel? I don't remember all the names of the short stories we read. Did you read anything by Bohumil Hrabal? That crap is amazing. Two of the best books I've ever read under 150 pages.
Title: Re: book reccomendations
Post by: Bill Clarahan on April 21, 2010, 12:55:45 PM
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51XKgNrxrPL._SS500_.jpg)

A classic for sure
Title: Re: book reccomendations
Post by: mcmwcat on April 22, 2010, 11:00:01 AM
Quote from: JD Salinger
Murder in my heart, daily, hourly, incessantly, and you ask if I feel as nasty as ever about planetary affairs. … How ready this wretched planet is for the bomb or more Nancy Reagan.

http://www.tnr.com/article/books-and-arts/the-read-jd-salingers-private-letters?utm_source=TNR+Daily&utm_campaign=c1dd7f1bd8-TNR_Daily_042110&utm_medium=email
Title: Re: book reccomendations
Post by: MeatSauce on April 22, 2010, 11:46:37 AM
"The Road" by Cormac McCarthy.

Not familiar? For a reference he also wrote No Country for Old Men.

Post apocalyptic book, now also a Viggo Mortensen movie.  You could easily read the entire book in 1 sitting. 
Title: Re: book reccomendations
Post by: felix rex on April 22, 2010, 02:24:04 PM
From about the age of 10 through 18, I probably read "Playing for Knight" 6-7 times. Don't know if it would still be enjoyable, though.
Title: Re: book reccomendations
Post by: mcmwcat on April 29, 2010, 02:14:58 PM
http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/what-happened-when-albert-einstein-met-charlie-chaplin-1956020.html

Quote
When Ernest Hemingway and Scott Fitzgerald met in Paris, at Le Dingo Bar on the rue Delambre in April 1925, Hemingway was disconcerted to be asked: "Did you have sex with your wife before you were married, Ernest?" They became friends, however. Their most intimate conversation (as reported by Hemingway) was also about wives. One evening, Scott Fitzgerald confessed to his friend that his wife, Zelda, had told him his penis was unusually small, and that he could never satisfy any woman. Hemingway said it was just typical of Zelda's undermining ways, but Scott wasn't reassured. So Hemingway asked him to come to the lavatory, where he inspected his friend's lance of manhood. Back in the bar, he explained:

"You're perfectly fine," I said. "You're okay. There's nothing wrong with you. You look at yourself from above and you look foreshortened. Go over to the Louvre and look at the people in the statues and then go home and look at yourself in the mirror in profile." Now there was an act of friendship between creative giants, if not an especially artistic conversation. You can almost see the superior smirk on Hemingway's face as he presents himself as the macho guy who was able to reassure his less macho pal about his physical shortcomings (and then tell the world about it).
Title: Re: book reccomendations
Post by: Butt Fugly on April 29, 2010, 04:14:54 PM
One Heart Beat Away  - Mark Cahill
Title: Re: book reccomendations
Post by: Kat Kid on May 01, 2010, 03:32:46 PM
michcat:

Nixonland.  Read. 

The Woodward books on Bush and the many 9/11, Iraq War, and torture books (Jane Mayer, Suskind, Ricks etc.) seem like overkill to me at this point, but were very interesting when read more contemporarily and coupled with my periodical/blog reading.

The only "political" non-fiction books that I've read that stand the test of time (and my horrible memory) are fiction or much less "of the moment" in terms of their focus: (Orwell, Hunter S. Thompson, Abby Hoffman, Steinbeck, Dalton Trumbo).  I think that Israeli David Grossman's book Death as a Way of Life: Israel Ten Years after Oslo is outstanding (and pretty short!) and Palestinain Mourid Barghouti's I Saw Ramallah is also excellent if you're looking for depressing/heart wrenching (and short!).

Kafka's short stories are really incredible too.  Your library should have a collection, be sure to read The Trial and The Metamorphisis.
Title: Re: book reccomendations
Post by: tdaver on May 01, 2010, 09:39:56 PM
The Art of Making Money: The Story of a Master Counterfeiter - Jason Kersten

Also, Steven Pressfield has several great historical novels.
Title: Re: book reccomendations
Post by: PandaXpanda on May 03, 2010, 10:19:39 AM
michcat:

Nixonland.  Read. 

The Woodward books on Bush and the many 9/11, Iraq War, and torture books (Jane Mayer, Suskind, Ricks etc.) seem like overkill to me at this point, but were very interesting when read more contemporarily and coupled with my periodical/blog reading.

The only "political" non-fiction books that I've read that stand the test of time (and my horrible memory) are fiction or much less "of the moment" in terms of their focus: (Orwell, Hunter S. Thompson, Abby Hoffman, Steinbeck, Dalton Trumbo).  I think that Israeli David Grossman's book Death as a Way of Life: Israel Ten Years after Oslo is outstanding (and pretty short!) and Palestinain Mourid Barghouti's I Saw Ramallah is also excellent if you're looking for depressing/heart wrenching (and short!).

Kafka's short stories are really incredible too.  Your library should have a collection, be sure to read The Trial and The Metamorphisis.

Have you checked out Chain of Command, by Hersh.  I thought it was pretty good.
Title: Re: book reccomendations
Post by: PandaXpanda on May 03, 2010, 10:22:37 AM
Limits of Power by Andrew Bacevich is an excellent book about American Exceptionalism AND its under 200 pgs. 
Title: Re: book reccomendations
Post by: Kat Kid on May 03, 2010, 10:26:31 AM
michcat:

Nixonland.  Read. 

The Woodward books on Bush and the many 9/11, Iraq War, and torture books (Jane Mayer, Suskind, Ricks etc.) seem like overkill to me at this point, but were very interesting when read more contemporarily and coupled with my periodical/blog reading.

The only "political" non-fiction books that I've read that stand the test of time (and my horrible memory) are fiction or much less "of the moment" in terms of their focus: (Orwell, Hunter S. Thompson, Abby Hoffman, Steinbeck, Dalton Trumbo).  I think that Israeli David Grossman's book Death as a Way of Life: Israel Ten Years after Oslo is outstanding (and pretty short!) and Palestinain Mourid Barghouti's I Saw Ramallah is also excellent if you're looking for depressing/heart wrenching (and short!).

Kafka's short stories are really incredible too.  Your library should have a collection, be sure to read The Trial and The Metamorphisis.

Have you checked out Chain of Command, by Hersh.  I thought it was pretty good.

I am trying to extract myself from that.

Currently reading Chomsky/Foucalt Debate.  Then library books No Country for Old Men, then  A Happy Marriage by Rafael Yglesias, then something from a Vonnegut reader.
Title: Re: book reccomendations
Post by: PandaXpanda on May 03, 2010, 10:33:56 AM
michcat:

Nixonland.  Read. 

The Woodward books on Bush and the many 9/11, Iraq War, and torture books (Jane Mayer, Suskind, Ricks etc.) seem like overkill to me at this point, but were very interesting when read more contemporarily and coupled with my periodical/blog reading.

The only "political" non-fiction books that I've read that stand the test of time (and my horrible memory) are fiction or much less "of the moment" in terms of their focus: (Orwell, Hunter S. Thompson, Abby Hoffman, Steinbeck, Dalton Trumbo).  I think that Israeli David Grossman's book Death as a Way of Life: Israel Ten Years after Oslo is outstanding (and pretty short!) and Palestinain Mourid Barghouti's I Saw Ramallah is also excellent if you're looking for depressing/heart wrenching (and short!).

Kafka's short stories are really incredible too.  Your library should have a collection, be sure to read The Trial and The Metamorphisis.

Have you checked out Chain of Command, by Hersh.  I thought it was pretty good.

I am trying to extract myself from that.

Currently reading Chomsky/Foucalt Debate.  Then library books No Country for Old Men, then  A Happy Marriage by Rafael Yglesias, then something from a Vonnegut reader.

How is this?  I just got finished reading Failed States which was pretty interesting.  Have you read the Bacevich book I listed above?  He's a Chomsky fan. 
Title: Re: book reccomendations
Post by: Kat Kid on May 03, 2010, 10:38:34 AM
Chomsky/Foucalt, so far, is a debate on human nature.  Not secifically about some particular political issue.
Title: Re: book reccomendations
Post by: asava on May 03, 2010, 11:10:07 AM
Chomsky/Foucalt, so far, is a debate on human nature.  Not secifically about some particular political issue.

HUMAN NATURE?! I LOVE HUMAN NATURE. read a lot of philosophy, specifically existentialist works and the like. bunch of boring french and german dudes.
Title: Re: book reccomendations
Post by: Kat Kid on May 03, 2010, 12:51:01 PM
Chomsky/Foucalt, so far, is a debate on human nature.  Not secifically about some particular political issue.

HUMAN NATURE?! I LOVE HUMAN NATURE. read a lot of philosophy, specifically existentialist works and the like. bunch of boring french and german dudes.

To be more specific they are debating Cartesian science and epistomology vs. actual evolution of knowledge in the sciences.  But I just started....
Title: Re: book reccomendations
Post by: Pete on May 03, 2010, 12:53:39 PM
Wow.

Saw that there had been some activity on this thread so I checked backed in.  Yep, still a bunch of douche bags talking about books that no one wants to read.
Title: Re: book reccomendations
Post by: Kat Kid on May 03, 2010, 12:56:08 PM
Wow.

Saw that there had been some activity on this thread so I checked backed in.  Yep, still a bunch of douche bags talking about books that no one wants to read.

Why don't you get your glasses checked....NEEEERD!

 :lol:
Title: Re: book reccomendations
Post by: Stevesie60 on May 04, 2010, 08:34:33 AM
Rita Hayworth and Shawshank Redemption - 100 page short story by Stephen King that is amazing.

Heart of Darkness by Joseph Conrad - only if you watch Apocalypse Now soon after reading it

Dracula, Frankenstein, and The Jungle are all pretty awesome, yet not nerdy.
Title: Re: book reccomendations
Post by: mcmwcat on May 04, 2010, 10:25:42 AM
then something from a Vonnegut reader.

Breakfast of Champions for a quick read
Title: Re: book reccomendations
Post by: pissclams on May 04, 2010, 10:40:13 AM
my recommendo:  Predictably Irrational: The Hidden Forces That Shape Our Decisions, by Dan Ariely.

it's an interesting look at Rational Economic theory and rational choice
Title: Re: book reccomendations
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on May 04, 2010, 10:55:13 AM
my recommendo:  Predictably Irrational: The Hidden Forces That Shape Our Decisions, by Dan Ariely.

it's an interesting look at Rational Economic theory and rational choice

looks like daris just found a new book for the next time he has to fly on a plane somewhere. would like this.
Title: Re: book reccomendations
Post by: pissclams on May 04, 2010, 11:03:51 AM
my recommendo:  Predictably Irrational: The Hidden Forces That Shape Our Decisions, by Dan Ariely.

it's an interesting look at Rational Economic theory and rational choice

looks like daris just found a new book for the next time he has to fly on a plane somewehre. would like this.
make sure and get the revised and expanded edition.  more pages!
Title: Re: book reccomendations
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on May 04, 2010, 11:12:07 AM
this book is pretty and also looks at irrational things we do/think and why...

http://www.randomhouse.com/kvpa/gilbert/praise.html
Title: Re: book reccomendations
Post by: pissclams on May 05, 2010, 10:33:35 AM
this book is pretty and also looks at irrational things we do/think and why...

http://www.randomhouse.com/kvpa/gilbert/praise.html
not book but same subject.  pretty good vid to watch.  pick the one called "Mind over money"
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/programs/
Title: Re: book reccomendations
Post by: mcmwcat on May 24, 2010, 08:50:12 AM
Twains memoirs released 100 years after his death could be epic.

http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/books/news/after-keeping-us-waiting-for-a-century-mark-twain-will-finally-reveal-all-1980695.html
Title: Re: book reccomendations
Post by: felix rex on May 25, 2010, 07:10:47 PM
Twains memoirs released 100 years after his death could be epic.

http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/books/news/after-keeping-us-waiting-for-a-century-mark-twain-will-finally-reveal-all-1980695.html


Yeah. I am really hoping that this is an epic drunken old-man rant channeled through fantastic writing abilities (basically "shitMarkTwainsays").
Title: Re: book reccomendations
Post by: Cire on May 25, 2010, 07:54:03 PM
I'm reading Omnivore's Dilemma.  It's good but if you've seen food inc it's pretty much the same so far.
Title: Re: book reccomendations
Post by: jmlynch1 on May 27, 2010, 11:25:01 PM
'Heart of a Dog' quick and almost as good as 'Master and Margarita.'
Mikhail Bulgakov
Title: Re: book reccomendations
Post by: michigancat on February 07, 2011, 04:44:23 PM
Grapes of Wrath

finished this last night, right before the super bowl ads started. Nice.
Title: Re: book reccomendations
Post by: steve dave on February 07, 2011, 04:46:15 PM
Grapes of Wrath

finished this last night, right before the super bowl ads started. Nice.

Their POS car making it across the country was the best part
Title: Re: book reccomendations
Post by: michigancat on February 07, 2011, 04:49:48 PM
Grapes of Wrath

finished this last night, right before the super bowl ads started. Nice.

Their POS car making it across the country was the best part

*spoiler alert*

I liked the part where Tom crushed that dude's skull.
Title: Re: book reccomendations
Post by: Chingon on February 07, 2011, 04:54:03 PM

I finished "Lucky Jim" a bit ago.   Hilarious , and highly recommended, especially for those with experience in academia.
Title: Re: book reccomendations
Post by: steve dave on February 07, 2011, 04:57:35 PM
Grapes of Wrath

finished this last night, right before the super bowl ads started. Nice.

Their POS car making it across the country was the best part

*spoiler alert*

I liked the part where Tom crushed that dude's skull.

no, you like the part where the grown man suckles at the teet of the lady after he almost drowns or whatever
Title: Re: book reccomendations
Post by: CNS on February 07, 2011, 04:59:03 PM
Grapes of Wrath

finished this last night, right before the super bowl ads started. Nice.

I read East of Eden right after the Grapes of Wrath.  Liked East of Eden better.

Also, Winter of Our Discontent is his best book, imo.(my fav book FWIW).  

I just finished Pastures of Heaven a couple weeks ago.  I liked it, but I really like Steinbeck's characters and that is all it really is.

Steinbeck is one of a few people who I wish wasn't dead.  
Title: Re: book reccomendations
Post by: michigancat on February 07, 2011, 05:01:17 PM
Grapes of Wrath

finished this last night, right before the super bowl ads started. Nice.

Their POS car making it across the country was the best part

*spoiler alert*

I liked the part where Tom crushed that dude's skull.

no, you like the part where the grown man suckles at the teet of the lady after he almost drowns or whatever

well, duh.


I'm going to read Catcher in the Rye next, FWIW.
Title: Re: book reccomendations
Post by: steve dave on February 07, 2011, 05:05:38 PM
Rusty didn't take high school american lit class fwiw
Title: Re: book reccomendations
Post by: The1BigWillie on February 07, 2011, 05:06:33 PM
Grapes of Wrath

finished this last night, right before the super bowl ads started. Nice.

I read East of Eden right after the Grapes of Wrath.  Liked East of Eden better.

Also, Winter of Our Discontent is his best book, imo.(my fav book FWIW).  

I just finished Pastures of Heaven a couple weeks ago.  I liked it, but I really like Steinbeck's characters and that is all it really is.

Steinbeck is one of a few people who I wish wasn't dead.  

Steinbeck is a great read.  Of Mice and Men is a classic as well.  There si a WWI book by him I read as well but I can't remember the title.
Title: Re: book reccomendations
Post by: steve dave on February 07, 2011, 05:15:40 PM
All Quiet On The Western Front is a good WWI book
Title: Re: book reccomendations
Post by: michigancat on February 07, 2011, 05:29:04 PM
Rusty didn't take high school american lit class fwiw

well, duh.
Title: Re: book reccomendations
Post by: CNS on February 07, 2011, 05:37:44 PM
Rusty didn't take high school american lit class fwiw

well, duh.


I didn't either.


I would have hated Steinbeck in HS. 
Title: Re: book reccomendations
Post by: CNS on February 07, 2011, 05:38:26 PM
Grapes of Wrath

finished this last night, right before the super bowl ads started. Nice.

I read East of Eden right after the Grapes of Wrath.  Liked East of Eden better.

Also, Winter of Our Discontent is his best book, imo.(my fav book FWIW).  

I just finished Pastures of Heaven a couple weeks ago.  I liked it, but I really like Steinbeck's characters and that is all it really is.

Steinbeck is one of a few people who I wish wasn't dead.  

Steinbeck is a great read.  Of Mice and Men is a classic as well.  There si a WWI book by him I read as well but I can't remember the title.

His only book I have read that I didn't like.   :dunno:
Title: Re: book reccomendations
Post by: PoetWarrior on February 07, 2011, 08:57:02 PM
Romans New Testament-Bible

With an open mind.
Title: Re: book reccomendations
Post by: Kat Kid on February 07, 2011, 09:03:47 PM
Grapes of Wrath

finished this last night, right before the super bowl ads started. Nice.

cool. glad you liked.
Title: Re: book reccomendations
Post by: j rake on February 07, 2011, 09:30:45 PM
Hate it when this thread returns to the top because of the misspelling.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Stupid Fitz on February 07, 2011, 10:06:46 PM
Just finished "The Big Short" by Michael Lewis. Pretty good, pretty crazy how a few doodz saw crap going down so early.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: felix rex on February 08, 2011, 12:07:07 AM
I re-read Slaughterhouse 5 recently. Was too ignorant to appreciate it in high school.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Dlew12 on February 08, 2011, 12:15:48 AM
I re-read Slaughterhouse 5 recently. Was too ignorant to appreciate it in high school.
Love Slaughterhouse 5.  Pretty embarrassed about how great I think Vonnegut is.

I'm reading Picture of Dorian Gray right now.  If I could describe it in two words so far, I'd say "witty" and "fancy."
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Stevesie60 on February 08, 2011, 12:20:21 AM
I re-read Slaughterhouse 5 recently. Was too ignorant to appreciate it in high school.
Love Slaughterhouse 5.  Pretty embarrassed about how great I think Vonnegut is.

The pictures in "Breakfast of Champions" really demonstrate his brilliance.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: sys on February 08, 2011, 12:21:44 AM
catch 22 is pretty rough ridin' incredible.  everyone go back and reread that next.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: michigancat on February 21, 2011, 05:02:39 PM
Naked Lunch - William S. Burroughs
On the Road - Jack Kerouac
Big Sur - Jack Kerouac
The Sheltering Sky - Paul Bowles
Short Stories - Paul Bowles
Invisible Man - Ralph Ellison
East of Eden - John Steinbeck
Tropic of Cancer - Henry Miller
Tropic of Capricorn - Henry Miller
Gravity's Rainbow - Thomas Pynchon (very long and complex)
Anything He's Ever Written - Kurt Vonnegut Jr.
Post Office - Charles Bukowski
Pulp - Charles Bukowski
Ham on Rye - Charles Bukowski

if you feel like venturing outside of America, just give the word. Some real incredible stuff out there in that big bad world.

So, after Catcher in the Rye (pretty good), I was going to try something from this list, but my shitty library had basically nothing on the list, except for a lot of Vonnegut stuff. So I played it safe and will read Slaughterhouse Five next.

Anyone can feel free to add something that is considered "classic" or "timeless". Fiction/non-fiction and foreign authors welcome. Thanks, pals.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Stevesie60 on February 21, 2011, 05:06:55 PM
Naked Lunch - William S. Burroughs
On the Road - Jack Kerouac
Big Sur - Jack Kerouac
The Sheltering Sky - Paul Bowles
Short Stories - Paul Bowles
Invisible Man - Ralph Ellison
East of Eden - John Steinbeck
Tropic of Cancer - Henry Miller
Tropic of Capricorn - Henry Miller
Gravity's Rainbow - Thomas Pynchon (very long and complex)
Anything He's Ever Written - Kurt Vonnegut Jr.
Post Office - Charles Bukowski
Pulp - Charles Bukowski
Ham on Rye - Charles Bukowski

if you feel like venturing outside of America, just give the word. Some real incredible stuff out there in that big bad world.

So, after Catcher in the Rye (pretty good), I was going to try something from this list, but my shitty library had basically nothing on the list, except for a lot of Vonnegut stuff. So I played it safe and will read Slaughterhouse Five next.

Anyone can feel free to add something that is considered "classic" or "timeless". Fiction/non-fiction and foreign authors welcome. Thanks, pals.

Heart of Darkness - Joseph Conrad; the basis for Apocalypse Now
One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest - Ken Kesey; way different than the movie, and way better
The Sun Also Rises - Ernest Hemingway; sums up the mentality behind manhood
1984 - George Orwell; really gets a bad reputation because of the indie kids that like it so I thought I'd hate it, but I loved it
The Great Gatsby - F. Scott Fitzgerald; if you haven't read it since high school, it is nothing like you remember
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Chingon on February 21, 2011, 05:20:49 PM
Vanity Fair - William Makepeace Thackeray [very funny imho]

Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: CNS on February 21, 2011, 07:42:41 PM
Gatsby seconded.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: yoga-like_abana on February 21, 2011, 07:44:43 PM
jurassic park
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: SkinnyBenny on February 21, 2011, 07:51:27 PM
Taught Gatsby to a school full of poor black kids in 2010 and they didn't hate it as much as I thought they would! Definitely still didn't have anything to identify with about it, but at least they liked the part where the chick got hit by the car.  :party:
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: michigancat on February 21, 2011, 07:53:03 PM
Taught Gatsby to a school full of poor black kids in 2010 and they didn't hate it as much as I thought they would! Definitely still didn't have anything to identify with about it, but at least they liked the part where the chick got hit by the car.  :party:

did you hit any of them?

I read gatsby this summer.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: pike on February 21, 2011, 07:54:06 PM
The little Book of String Theory


^Fascinating
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: CNS on February 21, 2011, 07:56:55 PM
for whom the bell tolls
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: SkinnyBenny on February 21, 2011, 08:50:09 PM
Taught Gatsby to a school full of poor black kids in 2010 and they didn't hate it as much as I thought they would! Definitely still didn't have anything to identify with about it, but at least they liked the part where the chick got hit by the car.  :party:

did you hit any of them?

I read gatsby this summer.



No way brah.  Love all those d00ds and galz.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: chunkles on February 22, 2011, 01:10:58 PM
Mo Willems:  Any of the 'Pigeon' Series.  Knuffle Bunny, KB Too, and KB Free are serviceable, but doesn't emotionally pull you in like his 'Pigeon' mastery.
Tony Diterlizzi:  'Ted'
Metamorphosis is good.
Really kind of hate Rick Riordan.
Read "Soon I Will Be Invincible" by Austin Grossman, very dry. Read this almost entirely while on the toilet. Just watch The Watchmen or The Incredibles or Megamind instead. 
A.I.L.E.E.N.
Letters From a Nut by Ted Nancy
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: CNS on February 22, 2011, 01:21:38 PM
Mo Willems:  Any of the 'Pigeon' Series.  Knuffle Bunny, KB Too, and KB Free are serviceable, but doesn't emotionally pull you in like his 'Pigeon' mastery.
Tony Diterlizzi:  'Ted'
Metamorphosis is good.
Really kind of hate Rick Riordan.
Read "Soon I Will Be Invincible" by Austin Grossman, very dry. Read this almost entirely while on the toilet. Just watch The Watchmen or The Incredibles or Megamind instead. 
A.I.L.E.E.N.
Letters From a Nut by Ted Nancy

The pigeon books are well read at my house.   :gocho:
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: asava on February 22, 2011, 02:35:54 PM
Naked Lunch - William S. Burroughs
On the Road - Jack Kerouac
Big Sur - Jack Kerouac
The Sheltering Sky - Paul Bowles
Short Stories - Paul Bowles
Invisible Man - Ralph Ellison
East of Eden - John Steinbeck
Tropic of Cancer - Henry Miller
Tropic of Capricorn - Henry Miller
Gravity's Rainbow - Thomas Pynchon (very long and complex)
Anything He's Ever Written - Kurt Vonnegut Jr.
Post Office - Charles Bukowski
Pulp - Charles Bukowski
Ham on Rye - Charles Bukowski

if you feel like venturing outside of America, just give the word. Some real incredible stuff out there in that big bad world.

So, after Catcher in the Rye (pretty good), I was going to try something from this list, but my cacty library had basically nothing on the list, except for a lot of Vonnegut stuff. So I played it safe and will read Slaughterhouse Five next.

Anyone can feel free to add something that is considered "classic" or "timeless". Fiction/non-fiction and foreign authors welcome. Thanks, pals.

Lolita - Vladimir Nabokov is probably top 3 writers of all time. Any of his books are incredible, but there are a few that deal with complex problems in intertextuality. However, that doesn't mean they wouldn't still be great reads if you just went through them without catching all the references to other works. Lolita would be a great start, Luhzin Defense another, the list goes on and on.

The Trial - Franz Kafka. Kafka is my favorite writer and has written some of my favorite works. The Trial is a good example of his world. Like his other novels it is incomplete, which can, at times be aggravating. If you can pick up a book of his complete short stories (which are real common and really good), I would highly recommend it. Not many of his stories are crazy long and can completely alter your perception of reality upon reading.

The Unbearable Lightness of Being - Milan Kundera

To Loud a Solitude - Bohumil Hrabal

The Stranger - Camus (any book by Camus is pretty great, but most people start with this one).

Journey to the End of the Night - Louis Ferdinand Celine (my favorite book of all time. some of the most stylistic and incredible writing i've ever seen).

The Razors Edge - W. Sommerset Maugham (very similar to The Sun Also Rises but better. short book, but an interesting read).

Dostoevsky - Even though I'm not a crazy fan of him or anything, people should probably read at least one of his works.

Thirst for Love - Yukio Mishima (japans most prolific writer, also one of the most interesting authors as a person as I can think of) I have only read this one and Acts of Worship (a book of short stories) but everything I have read has blown me away.

Kafka On the Shore - Haruki Murakami (incredible contemporary writer who creates great stories and visualizations). He's also pretty famous for Norwegian Wood so that might be something to look into.

Thats a pretty good start to a list.



Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: jmlynch1 on February 22, 2011, 02:52:45 PM
Quote
The Trial - Franz Kafka. Kafka is my favorite writer and has written some of my favorite works. The Trial is a good example of his world. Like his other novels it is incomplete, which can, at times be aggravating. If you can pick up a book of his complete short stories (which are real common and really good), I would highly recommend it. Not many of his stories are crazy long and can completely alter your perception of reality upon reading.
Good Lord, you are Kougar 2.0
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on February 22, 2011, 02:56:07 PM
fictional books just seem kind of stupid to me anymore. like, why even bother.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: asava on February 22, 2011, 02:58:38 PM
Quote
The Trial - Franz Kafka. Kafka is my favorite writer and has written some of my favorite works. The Trial is a good example of his world. Like his other novels it is incomplete, which can, at times be aggravating. If you can pick up a book of his complete short stories (which are real common and really good), I would highly recommend it. Not many of his stories are crazy long and can completely alter your perception of reality upon reading.
Good Lord, you are Kougar 2.0

Baby Kangaroo, I will kill you. If you don't like Kafka you can suck it. Keep this up and you will never see that sombrero again.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: CNS on February 22, 2011, 03:06:30 PM
Non Fict(for Daris):  The Devil in the White City.

Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: SkinnyBenny on February 22, 2011, 06:28:00 PM
fictional books just seem kind of stupid to me anymore. like, why even bother.

Honest is easy...fiction's where genius lies.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Stevesie60 on February 22, 2011, 06:34:38 PM
@asava - Have you read "Of Human Bondage" by W. Somerset Maugham?
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: pissclams on February 22, 2011, 06:45:50 PM
does anyone else sip martinis and dress up in a tuxedo with top hat and tails, + a cane when you're reading your uppity books?  LMAO what a bunch of losers. 

hey book, i'm going to read you. 
book:  ok friend, i smell and you and me will be new friends.
ok sounds great book, lets hang out together like bigtime losers. 
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: ArchE_Cat on February 22, 2011, 08:10:48 PM
Everybody Wants to go to Heaven but Nobody Wants to Die (or the Eschatology of Bluegrass) - Crowder & Hogan
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Deez Nutz on February 22, 2011, 08:47:26 PM
Seriously what I have been doing for the past several years is checking out audiobooks from the public library and listening to them in the car because I know I will never have time to sit down and read most of these great books.  I do a massive amount of driving, and just listening to music the whole time can get old after a while.  So here are some very good books I've checked out and listened to recently and would recommend. 

Lord of the Rings Trilogy + The Hobbit
The Jungle
Robinson Crusoe
Dracula
Moby Dick  (massively long book)
The Great Gatsby
Call of the Wild
All 7 Chronicles of Narnia
No Country For Old Men (Just because the movie was so good)
Life on the Mississippi
Adventures of Huckleberry Finn (favorite since I was a kid)
Adventures of Tom Sawyer
Treasure Island
Around the World in 80 Days
20,000 Leagues Under the Sea
The Red Badge of Courage
Of Mice and Men (short)
The Old Man and the Sea (short)
The Sun Also Rises
The Lord of the Flies

I didn't list a lot of the non-classic or below average audiobooks I have listened to.  There are many other good books I want to listen to but that the library doesn't have available, so I will have to purchase more in the future if I can't find them to check out.  Some other good books I have actually read in the past:

The Godfather
Presumed Innocent
The Burden of Proof
The Remains of the Day
Beowulf
The Grapes of Wrath
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Dlew12 on February 25, 2011, 10:07:51 PM
fictional books just seem kind of stupid to me anymore. like, why even bother.

Honest is easy...fiction's where genius lies.
And it's easier sometimes not to be sincere.  Somehow I make you believe.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: kougar24 on February 25, 2011, 10:10:19 PM
Pillars of the Earth, or pretty much anything else by Ken Follett.

Anything by Harlan Coben.

Fierce Invalids Home from Hot Climates, by Tom Robbins.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: ew2x4 on February 25, 2011, 10:26:10 PM
The little Book of String Theory


^Fascinating

Read some Brian Greene. Really great stuff.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: nicname on February 26, 2011, 12:51:09 AM
(http://images.businessweek.com/ss/07/07/0726_bestseller/image/blackswan.jpg)
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: nicname on February 26, 2011, 12:59:44 AM
Also, FAB FIVE about the Michigan bball team is probably my fave sports book of all time.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: bubbles4ksu on February 26, 2011, 04:28:07 PM
Has anyone read any Carl Sagan books? The famous Pale Blue Dot excerpt has consumed my every thought for the last 3 days.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: CNS on February 26, 2011, 05:26:30 PM
Also, FAB FIVE about the Michigan bball team is probably my fave sports book of all time.

As far as sports books go, Aggasi's Open is pretty good.  Guy was super messed up for a while.  Real mumped up childhood.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Deez Nutz on March 05, 2011, 01:41:23 AM
Just got finished listening to Animal Farm by George Orwell yesterday.  Great book.  And I listened to 1984 a couple of times in the past but forgot to mention it on my list earlier.  Great book as well.  Basically if you like one you will like the other.  Plus if you haven't seen the movie 1984 it is well worth your time. 
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: PandaXpanda on March 05, 2011, 07:12:06 AM
just finished life: keith richards. heroin's a hell of a drug.  :emawkid:
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: j-dub on March 07, 2011, 05:09:23 PM
Recent reads:

Old School - Tobias Wolff

A River Runs Through It - Norman Maclean (movie didn't stray too far from the source)

Till We Have Faces: A Myth Retold - C. S. Lewis





Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Deez Nutz on March 07, 2011, 07:28:20 PM
Recent reads:

Old School - Tobias Wolff

A River Runs Through It - Norman Maclean (movie didn't stray too far from the source)

Till We Have Faces: A Myth Retold - C. S. Lewis


How was the C.S. Lewis book?  When I get a chance I want to read a lot of his works besides the Chronicles of Narnia. 
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: j-dub on March 07, 2011, 10:58:43 PM
Recent reads:

Old School - Tobias Wolff

A River Runs Through It - Norman Maclean (movie didn't stray too far from the source)

Till We Have Faces: A Myth Retold - C. S. Lewis


How was the C.S. Lewis book?  When I get a chance I want to read a lot of his works besides the Chronicles of Narnia. 

It's one of the best books I've read. I've loved Narnia since I was like 5, and have read most of his other stuff. And I think it's his best.

You should also give his space trilogy a try, I especially like Perelandra (the 2nd of the 3).
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Deez Nutz on March 08, 2011, 10:21:28 PM
Recent reads:

Old School - Tobias Wolff

A River Runs Through It - Norman Maclean (movie didn't stray too far from the source)

Till We Have Faces: A Myth Retold - C. S. Lewis


How was the C.S. Lewis book?  When I get a chance I want to read a lot of his works besides the Chronicles of Narnia. 

It's one of the best books I've read. I've loved Narnia since I was like 5, and have read most of his other stuff. And I think it's his best.

You should also give his space trilogy a try, I especially like Perelandra (the 2nd of the 3).

What got me motivated to read more of C.S. Lewis was a 12-lecture university course taught by Louis Markos that I heard on a set of 6 CDs which is titled "The Life and Writings of C.S. Lewis".  He covers all of the major works that Lewis wrote about and does an excellent job of explaining their meaning, etc.  Well worth buying and listening to it.  I checked it out of the public library, but I intend to buy it as well. 
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: felix rex on March 09, 2011, 10:51:32 AM
sys/_fanwife: You ever read "San Manuel bueno, martir"? Re-read it over the weekend. Effing great.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Ghost of Stan Parrish on March 09, 2011, 11:24:47 AM
sys/_fanwife: You ever read "San Manuel bueno, martir"? Re-read it over the weekend. Effing great.

I remember reading this and really enjoying it.

I usually read non-fiction, but if any of you like Nick Hornby (High Fidelity, About a Boy) check out Starter for Ten by David Nicholls, it's an easy read and pretty damn funny (IMHO).
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: michigancat on May 01, 2011, 12:38:17 PM
Naked Lunch - William S. Burroughs
On the Road - Jack Kerouac
Big Sur - Jack Kerouac
The Sheltering Sky - Paul Bowles
Short Stories - Paul Bowles
Invisible Man - Ralph Ellison
East of Eden - John Steinbeck
Tropic of Cancer - Henry Miller
Tropic of Capricorn - Henry Miller
Gravity's Rainbow - Thomas Pynchon (very long and complex)
Anything He's Ever Written - Kurt Vonnegut Jr.
Post Office - Charles Bukowski
Pulp - Charles Bukowski
Ham on Rye - Charles Bukowski

if you feel like venturing outside of America, just give the word. Some real incredible stuff out there in that big bad world.

I LOVED On the Road - my favorite suggestion on this thread so far. I started to read Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance last summer but didn't finish, so I think I'll pick it up again (as my shitty library had NONE of your other suggestion). Both involve road trips across the American West, which I've really been drawn to lately for some reason.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Kat Kid on May 01, 2011, 01:35:01 PM
Naked Lunch - William S. Burroughs
On the Road - Jack Kerouac
Big Sur - Jack Kerouac
The Sheltering Sky - Paul Bowles
Short Stories - Paul Bowles
Invisible Man - Ralph Ellison
East of Eden - John Steinbeck
Tropic of Cancer - Henry Miller
Tropic of Capricorn - Henry Miller
Gravity's Rainbow - Thomas Pynchon (very long and complex)
Anything He's Ever Written - Kurt Vonnegut Jr.
Post Office - Charles Bukowski
Pulp - Charles Bukowski
Ham on Rye - Charles Bukowski

if you feel like venturing outside of America, just give the word. Some real incredible stuff out there in that big bad world.

I LOVED On the Road - my favorite suggestion on this thread so far. I started to read Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance last summer but didn't finish, so I think I'll pick it up again (as my cacty library had NONE of your other suggestion). Both involve road trips across the American West, which I've really been drawn to lately for some reason.


Mid life crisis.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: michigancat on May 01, 2011, 02:03:53 PM
Naked Lunch - William S. Burroughs
On the Road - Jack Kerouac
Big Sur - Jack Kerouac
The Sheltering Sky - Paul Bowles
Short Stories - Paul Bowles
Invisible Man - Ralph Ellison
East of Eden - John Steinbeck
Tropic of Cancer - Henry Miller
Tropic of Capricorn - Henry Miller
Gravity's Rainbow - Thomas Pynchon (very long and complex)
Anything He's Ever Written - Kurt Vonnegut Jr.
Post Office - Charles Bukowski
Pulp - Charles Bukowski
Ham on Rye - Charles Bukowski

if you feel like venturing outside of America, just give the word. Some real incredible stuff out there in that big bad world.

I LOVED On the Road - my favorite suggestion on this thread so far. I started to read Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance last summer but didn't finish, so I think I'll pick it up again (as my cacty library had NONE of your other suggestion). Both involve road trips across the American West, which I've really been drawn to lately for some reason.


Mid life crisis.

sounds about right.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: jtksu on May 01, 2011, 02:16:55 PM
I drove out to San Diego a couple yrs ago.  Trip there I went through Denver, on the way back I took a farther south route through Tuscon, etc.   Pretty cool.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: asava on May 01, 2011, 02:51:53 PM
Naked Lunch - William S. Burroughs
On the Road - Jack Kerouac
Big Sur - Jack Kerouac
The Sheltering Sky - Paul Bowles
Short Stories - Paul Bowles
Invisible Man - Ralph Ellison
East of Eden - John Steinbeck
Tropic of Cancer - Henry Miller
Tropic of Capricorn - Henry Miller
Gravity's Rainbow - Thomas Pynchon (very long and complex)
Anything He's Ever Written - Kurt Vonnegut Jr.
Post Office - Charles Bukowski
Pulp - Charles Bukowski
Ham on Rye - Charles Bukowski

if you feel like venturing outside of America, just give the word. Some real incredible stuff out there in that big bad world.

I LOVED On the Road - my favorite suggestion on this thread so far. I started to read Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance last summer but didn't finish, so I think I'll pick it up again (as my cacty library had NONE of your other suggestion). Both involve road trips across the American West, which I've really been drawn to lately for some reason.


You might also like The Motorcycle Diaries by Che. Captures journey and travel fairly well, but completely different style than Kerouac, and with different intentions. If you like On the Road you probably would love Big Sur, wish I had a copy or I'd send it to you.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: felix rex on May 01, 2011, 05:52:15 PM
Naked Lunch - William S. Burroughs
On the Road - Jack Kerouac
Big Sur - Jack Kerouac
The Sheltering Sky - Paul Bowles
Short Stories - Paul Bowles
Invisible Man - Ralph Ellison
East of Eden - John Steinbeck
Tropic of Cancer - Henry Miller
Tropic of Capricorn - Henry Miller
Gravity's Rainbow - Thomas Pynchon (very long and complex)
Anything He's Ever Written - Kurt Vonnegut Jr.
Post Office - Charles Bukowski
Pulp - Charles Bukowski
Ham on Rye - Charles Bukowski

if you feel like venturing outside of America, just give the word. Some real incredible stuff out there in that big bad world.

I LOVED On the Road - my favorite suggestion on this thread so far. I started to read Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance last summer but didn't finish, so I think I'll pick it up again (as my shitty library had NONE of your other suggestion). Both involve road trips across the American West, which I've really been drawn to lately for some reason.


Sometimes, this board reminds of the chapter where he's hitchhiking with the blond-haired sunshine boys or whatever.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: michigancat on July 23, 2011, 08:19:39 AM
krusty, if you are going to read thompson please read The Rum Diary first. k thx.


:thumbs:

and 2nd?
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: fatty fat fat on July 23, 2011, 08:38:04 AM
I don't read.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: _33 on July 23, 2011, 09:27:40 AM
Read one of these two biographies by David McCullough.

John Adams or Truman

He's such a good writer that they read like novels. Real page turners.



Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: fatty fat fat on July 23, 2011, 09:54:34 AM
I haven't read a book for pleasure since the boxcar children/goosebumps series.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: fatty fat fat on July 23, 2011, 09:55:16 AM
Which were both great, and i assume if i do pick up reading again, i'd love it.

Do you guys attends book clubs?
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Fuktard on July 23, 2011, 09:17:13 PM
When March Went Mad - Seth Davis...really excellent sports book that was fascinating if you like college bball (did not like Larry Bird before reading..absolutely love the guy now)
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: bubbles4ksu on July 24, 2011, 06:35:24 PM
I just finished 100 Years of Solitude. It was unbelievably good.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: scoops callahan on July 24, 2011, 09:38:34 PM
Tears Of A Tiger.. simply amazing. Best book i've ever read
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Pendergast on July 24, 2011, 10:11:13 PM
FFF, if you want to get back into reading for fun, try anything by these co-authors:

http://www.prestonchild.com/

I suggest starting with Relic, and read the Pendergast novels ( :woot:).  Pretty fun books.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: bigDcat on July 25, 2011, 11:49:19 AM
Has anyone read Mike Leach's new book? Heard he calls Craig James a bitch.

Also, just got done reading A Dog's Purpose. Was both funny and sad. Would recommend for any dog lovers.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: FP TC etc. on July 25, 2011, 08:42:39 PM
disclaimer - did not read any of this previous thread before posting.
-------------------------------

I really like Micheal Crichton books. "Timeline" is my favorite, but you can't go wrong with Jurassic Park.

p.s. I think I've read all of his books if anyone wants some more reccomendos
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: jtksu on July 25, 2011, 09:04:50 PM
Timeline was very good.  Used to be able to claim I had read all of his books but I  stopped cold turkey like 7 yrs ago.  What was the one of the abortion?  That was also really good and kind of overlooked, IMO.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: FP TC etc. on July 25, 2011, 10:26:45 PM
Timeline was very good.  Used to be able to claim I had read all of his books but I  stopped cold turkey like 7 yrs ago.  What was the one of the abortion?  That was also really good and kind of overlooked, IMO.

huh?

Also, after he died they released the one about the pirates (the name escapes me) but it wasn't very good. probably why he never wanted it released, but they did it anyway  :flush:
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: jtksu on July 26, 2011, 12:15:25 AM
A Case Of Need was the book I couldn't think of.  And cold turkey was a joke cause the dude is dead.  We square?
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: FP TC etc. on July 26, 2011, 12:56:10 AM
A Case Of Need was the book I couldn't think of.  And cold turkey was a joke cause the dude is dead.  We square?

ah, yeah, a case of need. It was weird, I need to read it again b/c I barely remember a thing about it.

The whole cold turkey thing went straight over my head  :flush:
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: yoga-like_abana on August 12, 2011, 11:08:52 AM
Ive been reading The Good Soldier its really not that great but I can't put it down
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Pete on August 12, 2011, 12:04:24 PM
The George R.R. Martin series Game of Thrones is the best fiction I have ever read. 
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Chingon on August 12, 2011, 12:48:40 PM
I just finished The Master and Margarita.  I liked it a whole lot.   The Russian names can get a bit tricky to follow, but its worth it.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: michigancat on August 12, 2011, 12:52:36 PM
Still reading ZAMM. It gets pretty tough to read toward the end. Not a "read until you fall asleep" type book.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Pete on March 05, 2012, 08:46:41 PM
The George R.R. Martin series Game of Thrones is the best fiction I have ever read.

Finished the entire series (Song of Fire and Ice), and had never read "fantasy" before.  So, I next picked up Brent Weeks "Night Angel" series.  Very good.  Lots of action and gore. 

I have read all the Ann Rice, and Sookie Stackhouse novels (vampires) and rough ridin' love them.  Not a huge millitary fan, but loved Black Hawk Down and Dear Mom.

Can't decide what to read next.  I am seriously considering the Hunger Games, but am really scared that it will be too childish. 

I have read some good things about the "Dragon Prince Series" from Aaron Pogue.  May give that a shot.


I am looking for recommendos here, guys.  I don't want any god damned ivory towered suggestions...I want to enjoy myself and have fun when I read. 

What do you got?
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Dlew12 on March 05, 2012, 09:35:29 PM
Reading David Copperfield now.  Just delightful, so far.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: FP TC etc. on March 05, 2012, 09:38:26 PM
I've read a lot of classic literature. Most of them are meh, but I feel all pompous about the fact that I've read them and like to pretend like I thought they were great.  :dunno:
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Dlew12 on March 05, 2012, 09:59:16 PM
I've read a lot of classic literature. Most of them are meh, but I feel all pompous about the fact that I've read them and like to pretend like I thought they were great.  :dunno:
I don't know.  It's a different way of writing with some of those guys.  I probably get the same sort of (silly) satisfaction, but I genuinely think it's important to appreciate the most beautiful writing the English language has ever seen. 
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Cire on March 05, 2012, 10:03:50 PM
I've tried many times to get into literature.  Can't follow through, last book I read cover to cover was pillars of the earth and that was at least for years ago
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Dlew12 on March 05, 2012, 10:05:00 PM
I've tried many times to get into literature.  Can't follow through, last book I read cover to cover was pillars of the earth and that was at least for years ago
Not every piece of literature is absurdly long like POTE. 
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Cire on March 05, 2012, 10:08:40 PM
I've got lots of non fiction but I skip around and read parts I'm interested in and sometimes I end up reading reverse order.   Is that weird?  So I have adult add or something?
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: FP TC etc. on March 05, 2012, 10:30:43 PM
I've read a lot of classic literature. Most of them are meh, but I feel all pompous about the fact that I've read them and like to pretend like I thought they were great.  :dunno:
I don't know.  It's a different way of writing with some of those guys.  I probably get the same sort of (silly) satisfaction, but I genuinely think it's important to appreciate the most beautiful writing the English language has ever seen.

I agree that it's important to appreciate classic works of literature. It's just another form of history.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: jmlynch1 on March 05, 2012, 10:32:20 PM
The George R.R. Martin series Game of Thrones is the best fiction I have ever read.

Finished the entire series (Song of Fire and Ice), and had never read "fantasy" before.  So, I next picked up Brent Weeks "Night Angel" series.  Very good.  Lots of action and gore. 

I have read all the Ann Rice, and Sookie Stackhouse novels (vampires) and rough ridin' love them.  Not a huge millitary fan, but loved Black Hawk Down and Dear Mom.

Can't decide what to read next.  I am seriously considering the Hunger Games, but am really scared that it will be too childish. 

I have read some good things about the "Dragon Prince Series" from Aaron Pogue.  May give that a shot.


I am looking for recommendos here, guys.  I don't want any god damned ivory towered suggestions...I want to enjoy myself and have fun when I read. 

What do you got?
I'm on like pg 430 on Feast of Crows. Almost out of the boring dark?
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Dlew12 on March 05, 2012, 10:33:51 PM
I've read a lot of classic literature. Most of them are meh, but I feel all pompous about the fact that I've read them and like to pretend like I thought they were great.  :dunno:
I don't know.  It's a different way of writing with some of those guys.  I probably get the same sort of (silly) satisfaction, but I genuinely think it's important to appreciate the most beautiful writing the English language has ever seen.

I agree that it's important to appreciate classic works of literature. It's just another form of history.
Yes I agree.  Also, it's positively influenced the way I've written academic papers.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: kougar24 on March 05, 2012, 11:04:26 PM
The Hunger Games books walk the tightrope between good and childish, Pete. But they're so quick, you don't really waste any time by giving them a shot I guess.
Title: book recommendations
Post by: bigDcat on March 05, 2012, 11:41:45 PM
The Hunger Games books walk the tightrope between good and childish, Pete. But they're so quick, you don't really waste any time by giving them a shot I guess.

I thought they were going to be very childish, but I found them entertaining.

I'm pretty excited about seeing the movie later this month.


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Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: FP TC etc. on March 06, 2012, 12:15:06 AM
I've read a lot of classic literature. Most of them are meh, but I feel all pompous about the fact that I've read them and like to pretend like I thought they were great.  :dunno:
I don't know.  It's a different way of writing with some of those guys.  I probably get the same sort of (silly) satisfaction, but I genuinely think it's important to appreciate the most beautiful writing the English language has ever seen.

I agree that it's important to appreciate classic works of literature. It's just another form of history.
Yes I agree.  Also, it's positively influenced the way I've written academic papers.

Oh, and it means you get to bitch about how awful the movie is  :D
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: jtksu on March 06, 2012, 12:37:10 AM
Hunger Games are childish books?  Never knew that.  Guess I need to pay better attention to the people that have been recommending them.  The story line sounds pretty dark so I never imagined they would be childish books.  Still probably gonna read them though, especially if they're the type of books I can just breeze through.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: jtksu on March 06, 2012, 12:49:23 AM
Human Zoo and Naked Ape, Desmond Morris.  Older books, maybe early '70s?  Good stuff though.

 Also, Nickled and Dimed On (Not) Getting By in America, Barbara Ehrenreich.  This chick (a newspaper writer)  took like 2 yrs off and joined the working poor in Minneapolis and somewhere else, Wilmington maybe.  Anyhoo, just took entry level jobs (serving, house cleaning, etc) and tried to get by on minimum wage.  Shits interesting as hell.  Really good book.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Tobias on March 06, 2012, 12:51:17 AM
Hunger Games are childish books?  Never knew that.  Guess I need to pay better attention to the people that have been recommending them.  The story line sounds pretty dark so I never imagined they would be childish books.  Still probably gonna read them though, especially if they're the type of books I can just breeze through.

i enjoyed them - i wouldn't really consider them childish.  i avoided reading them for a while and then it was all i had to read on a long flight - you can get through them in a week if you get into the story (which i don't see how you couldn't unless you really like picking things apart).  go for it
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: jtksu on March 06, 2012, 12:57:08 AM
I read a ton of "lighter reading" types of books.  Patterson, Gerritson, Grisham, L'Amour, etc.  Stuff like that I can breeze through in a night or two, if it's entertaining.  Slightly OT here-  Lonesome Dove was also a great book.  Pretty effin' thick book though, probably took me a week to get through.  Definitely one of the  best westerns I've read.  (Don't judge, my grandpa left me hundreds of westerns, I figured I'd give L'Amour a shot and just kept going from there.  Really like the Sackett books.)
Title: book recommendations
Post by: bigDcat on March 06, 2012, 01:18:09 AM
I read a ton of "lighter reading" types of books.  Patterson, Gerritson, Grisham, L'Amour, etc.  Stuff like that I can breeze through in a night or two, if it's entertaining.  Slightly OT here-  Lonesome Dove was also a great book.  Pretty effin' thick book though, probably took me a week to get through.  Definitely one of the  best westerns I've read.  (Don't judge, my grandpa left me hundreds of westerns, I figured I'd give L'Amour a shot and just kept going from there.  Really like the Sackett books.)

I loved reading Lonesome Dove, but I can't stand more than an hour of the movie (movie is 7 hours long).

Have you read The Virginian? Probably my next favorite western.


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Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Stupid Fitz on March 06, 2012, 06:44:34 AM
After finishing the Jobs bio (amazing) I went with Mint Condition.  About baseball cards.  Fairly interesting if you used to collect or still do, but kind of boring.  I hate it when I pick a bad one.  I always feel like I have to force myself to finish it and it takes me forever.   :curse:
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: felix rex on March 06, 2012, 07:01:44 AM
I've got lots of non fiction but I skip around and read parts I'm interested in and sometimes I end up reading reverse order.   Is that weird?  So I have adult add or something?

I used to teach lit. I would advise students to do that with some books (i.e. find a part that interests you and then read backwards a little) in order to get into it (this is how I finally read Jane Eyre). The first page is supposed to "draw a reader in", but not all books accomplish that (and some authors, like Michener or Eco, intentionally try to "weed out the weak readers").

Plus, if you're actually studying it as a "work" rather than just enjoying a good read, it's a great way to get a better look at the mechanics/structure of the story (this is actually my fave part about most books I read, so I do it a lot. I sometimes enjoy the craftsmanship more than the story, and sometimes enjoy a well-crafted novel even when the story itself is mediocre).
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: felix rex on March 06, 2012, 07:02:42 AM
Also, "Prince of Fire" is a good beach read.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on March 06, 2012, 07:53:35 AM
I'm in the middle of Feast for Crows now. A bit slow but it was written to fill in some history between Storm of Swords and Dance with Dragons, so I expected that.

Hunger Games series is a good light read - you can read one a day.

If you liked Pillars of the Earth, Fall of Giants is even better.

Currently reading (well listening to in the car) the Wheel of Time series which is pretty good.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: CNS on March 06, 2012, 09:49:41 AM
EMAWgeddon was right about Forrest Gump.  very fun read.  not deep at all, but fast and entertaining.  Better than the movie so far(75% through it).
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Stevesie60 on March 06, 2012, 10:39:10 AM
"Battle Royal" is the adult version of "Hunger Games". Not going to say it's better, because I think the way "Hunger Games" portrays the future is very interesting, but "Battle Royal" has way more violence and a way better ending.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Pete on March 06, 2012, 12:42:47 PM
I'm on like pg 430 on Feast of Crows. Almost out of the boring dark?

Ya.  It gets better, but Dance with Dragons is better than Feast for Crows....they happen at the same time, kinda one big book broken into two.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: kougar24 on March 06, 2012, 12:51:41 PM
If you liked Pillars of the Earth, Fall of Giants is even better.

Fall of Giants was great, but...no.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: jtksu on March 06, 2012, 01:16:06 PM
The Virginian sounds super familiar.  Not sure if I've read it, I'll have to go through the collection and see if it's in there/I've read it.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: michigancat on March 06, 2012, 04:52:16 PM
I try to always watch the movie before I read the book. That way you enjoy them both and aren't an unhappy douchebag.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: felix rex on March 06, 2012, 05:27:08 PM
I try to always watch the movie before I read the book. That way you enjoy them both and aren't an unhappy douchebag.

lol
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: 'taterblast on March 06, 2012, 05:51:11 PM
After finishing the Jobs bio (amazing)

heard he was an bad person. in a cool, fascinating way.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Stupid Fitz on March 06, 2012, 08:12:48 PM
After finishing the Jobs bio (amazing)

heard he was an bad person. in a cool, fascinating way.

 A huge bad person and batshit fracking crazy. Also very fascinating.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: TheHamburglar on March 23, 2012, 02:06:47 PM
So, if I'm a 27 year old male, should I read The Hunger Games? 
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: steve dave on March 23, 2012, 02:07:37 PM
So, if I'm a 27 year old male, should I read The Hunger Games?

do you suck at reading or have ADD? 
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: TheHamburglar on March 23, 2012, 02:09:15 PM
So, if I'm a 27 year old male, should I read The Hunger Games?

do you suck at reading or have ADD?

No
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: steve dave on March 23, 2012, 02:12:55 PM
So, if I'm a 27 year old male, should I read The Hunger Games?

do you suck at reading or have ADD?

No

ah hell, go for it anyway. 
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on March 23, 2012, 02:16:40 PM

Jane Eyre



was an english major for two years. to this day i know more about the brontes than 99% of the american population. always a nice conversation wtf every year of so where people have to double take when i bust out my insane bronte knowledge. also, favorite bronte? mine you ask? anne. what a nut bag.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: 8manpick on March 23, 2012, 02:45:45 PM
I read a ton of "lighter reading" types of books.  Patterson, Gerritson, Grisham, L'Amour, etc.  Stuff like that I can breeze through in a night or two, if it's entertaining.  Slightly OT here-  Lonesome Dove was also a great book.  Pretty effin' thick book though, probably took me a week to get through.  Definitely one of the  best westerns I've read.  (Don't judge, my grandpa left me hundreds of westerns, I figured I'd give L'Amour a shot and just kept going from there.  Really like the Sackett books.)

My dad owns much of the L'Amour collection, and I read tons of them when I was in late elementary-middle school.  Great stuff.  Loved them.  Definitely easy reading / formulaic, but he is a good story teller.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Chingon on March 23, 2012, 04:50:54 PM
I never really like to read nonfiction but Goodbye To All That was a very good read.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: steve dave on March 23, 2012, 04:57:02 PM
everyone should buy and then read this book which talks about goEMAW and probably other things

http://davegladow.com/eyeblack-odyssey/
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Tobias on March 23, 2012, 08:12:55 PM
So, if I'm a 27 year old male, should I read The Hunger Games?

absolutely
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Rams on March 23, 2012, 10:09:45 PM
So, if I'm a 27 year old male, should I read The Hunger Games?

absolutely

seconded
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: ednksu on March 24, 2012, 12:06:25 AM
If you ever want to feel really great about humanity and the depravity we can commit read Bloodlands by Snyder
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Stevesie60 on March 24, 2012, 03:24:08 AM
Why read "Hunger Games" when "Battle Royal" is available?
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: jtksu on March 24, 2012, 09:50:03 AM
Well, Hunger Games is one of the most talked about books/series in recent memory and the other one is recommended by a member of one of the stupidest bbs's on earth.  So, there's that.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: libstradamus on March 24, 2012, 10:41:39 AM
read battle royal in english 2 at KU.  it was pretty good.

other books we read that semester:  glamorama (bret easton ellis), crash (sex in cars).

def better than the old crap you usually have to read in school.   :thumbs:
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: 8manpick on March 25, 2012, 07:08:48 PM
Lost Horizon by James Hilton is a pretty incredible book.  If you took GEOG 600: Mountain Geography, you already know this.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Pete on April 22, 2012, 03:05:51 PM
Just finished the Brent Weeks "Night Angel" trilogy.  Very cool.  Assassins and magic and crap.  Loads of violence, and cool plot. 

Also just finished World War Z.  rough ridin' good book.  Very different.  It's a "historical" account of a Zombie apocalypse.   Will be a movie next year with Brad Pitt.


I am now starting the Mistborn Trilogy by Brandon Sanderson.  Very highly rated, and I like to read series where the entire series is done, so I don't have to rough ridin' wait around for the next books (god damn you George R. R. Martin, GO DAMN YOU!).
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: 06wildcat on April 22, 2012, 03:18:26 PM
Currently reading Beyond the Beautiful Forevers. It's an interesting, depressing book.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: CNS on May 07, 2012, 05:10:36 PM
Just finished the new Dark Tower book.  It was much better than the last three of the series, IMO.  Just a short one that basically tells a couple stories about crap that happened before the DT series starts in The Gunslinger. Really hope that King keeps spitting them out.  Should be plenty of possibilities to do similar stories about prequel stuff. 

Anyway, it's a quick read and enjoyable if you like the DT series.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Skipper44 on May 07, 2012, 05:14:57 PM
Just finished the new Dark Tower book.  It was much better than the last three of the series, IMO.  Just a short one that basically tells a couple stories about crap that happened before the DT series starts in The Gunslinger. Really hope that King keeps spitting them out.  Should be plenty of possibilities to do similar stories about prequel stuff. 

Anyway, it's a quick read and enjoyable if you like the DT series.
it would be nice to get the bitter taste of the ending of that series washed away
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Chingon on May 07, 2012, 06:26:44 PM
I am starting Count of Monte Cristo.  Pretty good so far.  Just finished The Name of the Rose and V.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Dlew12 on May 07, 2012, 06:28:39 PM
I am starting Count of Monte Cristo.  Pretty good so far.  Just finished The Name of the Rose and V.
I'm reading that this summer. 
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: CNS on May 08, 2012, 09:23:11 AM
I am starting Count of Monte Cristo.  Pretty good so far.  Just finished The Name of the Rose and V.

The Count can get a little slow in the first few hundred pages, but stick with it.  It turned out to be one of the best books I've read.  Loved it.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Ghost of Stan Parrish on May 09, 2012, 09:57:28 AM
New book on the history of Manhattan...   :driving:

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51rloLV20OL._BO2,204,203,200_PIsitb-sticker-arrow-click,TopRight,35,-76_AA300_SH20_OU01_.jpg)
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Pete on May 09, 2012, 10:02:37 AM
Just finished the new Dark Tower book.  It was much better than the last three of the series, IMO.  Just a short one that basically tells a couple stories about crap that happened before the DT series starts in The Gunslinger. Really hope that King keeps spitting them out.  Should be plenty of possibilities to do similar stories about prequel stuff. 

Anyway, it's a quick read and enjoyable if you like the DT series.
it would be nice to get the bitter taste of the ending of that series washed away

Are the DT series worth reading?
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: CNS on May 09, 2012, 10:39:17 AM
Just finished the new Dark Tower book.  It was much better than the last three of the series, IMO.  Just a short one that basically tells a couple stories about crap that happened before the DT series starts in The Gunslinger. Really hope that King keeps spitting them out.  Should be plenty of possibilities to do similar stories about prequel stuff. 

Anyway, it's a quick read and enjoyable if you like the DT series.
it would be nice to get the bitter taste of the ending of that series washed away

Are the DT series worth reading?

Mixed bag.  The first book is one of my favs.  I don't reread many books, but have reread that one several times.  The Drawing of The Three was slow.  Wizard and Glass was really good.  The last three were very forced and sucked balls.

Overall, the first four set up a very good story and King muffed it like crazy on the last 3.  You could tell that he just had no idea how to proceed from the middle of the series to the last quarter of the last book.  That said, I would read it knowing what I know now. 
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: CNS on May 16, 2012, 05:11:34 PM
Oh man, just finished reading the first two books of Hunger Games.  Fun read.  Starting book three tonight.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on May 16, 2012, 08:33:14 PM
Oh man, just finished reading the first two books of Hunger Games.  Fun read.  Starting book three tonight.

Hunger Games > Catching Fire >Mockingjay

Good read, though I was disappointed with how the last 2 kind of scrambled to end.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Pete on May 17, 2012, 08:37:11 AM
Oh man, just finished reading the first two books of Hunger Games.  Fun read.  Starting book three tonight.

Hunger Games > Catching Fire >Mockingjay

Good read, though I was disappointed with how the last 2 kind of scrambled to end.

The end of Mockingjay was just silly.  Like a little girl made it up.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: CNS on May 17, 2012, 09:20:36 AM
Trying to decide on the next one to read.  it's either going to be The Castle In The Forest by Mailer, or Thunderstruck by Erik Larson.  Any recommendos?

I just finished Larson's one about the American ambasador in Hitler's Germany leading up to WWII.  Very interesting.  I recommend it for anyone who would like to understand the posts I assume Sys will be posting during BB season.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: steve dave on May 17, 2012, 09:31:30 AM
Oh man, just finished reading the first two books of Hunger Games.  Fun read.  Starting book three tonight.

Hunger Games > Catching Fire >Mockingjay

Good read, though I was disappointed with how the last 2 kind of scrambled to end.

The end of Mockingjay was just silly.  Like a little girl made it up.

Well, the books are written for little girls Pete.  I'm sorry I had to break it to you in this thread.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Kat Kid on May 17, 2012, 10:12:14 AM
I think people should read Gomorrah.  Which is about the Napoli mafia.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on May 17, 2012, 10:40:48 AM
or the video game nerds, check out Ready Player One.    I read the forst 150 pages last night, didn't want to stop.  And I'm not even a huge game nerd.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: steve dave on May 17, 2012, 10:45:59 AM
I'm not even a huge game nerd.

good for you mikey
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Chingon on May 17, 2012, 10:54:48 PM
I am starting The Count of Monte Cristo.  Pretty good so far.  Just finished The Name of the Rose and V.
Man what a great book.   The build up and the end are fantastic.  Highly recommonedo to anyone who loves a good story.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: jmlynch1 on May 19, 2012, 05:16:00 PM
I think people should read Gomorrah.  Which is about the Napoli mafia.
Is that the basis for the movie Netflix keeps telling me to watch?
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: CNS on May 20, 2012, 07:32:44 PM
Oh man, just finished reading the first two books of Hunger Games.  Fun read.  Starting book three tonight.

Hunger Games > Catching Fire >Mockingjay

Good read, though I was disappointed with how the last 2 kind of scrambled to end.

The end of Mockingjay was just silly.  Like a little girl made it up.

Confirmed.  :sad:
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Fedor on May 20, 2012, 10:05:08 PM
I just finished Cold Mountain, fantastically written, but you know...
I am pumped to start Shogun, it was a miniseries in the 80's so it must be pretty good.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: ChiCat on May 20, 2012, 10:42:57 PM
I just read Sense of Direction - nonfiction about a 30 year old with daddy issues doing pilgrimages around the world. It was pretty decent
Title: book recommendations
Post by: Pete on May 21, 2012, 06:36:25 AM
I just read Sense of Direction - nonfiction about a 30 year old with daddy issues doing pilgrimages around the world. It was pretty decent

the eff would compel you to read something like that?
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: ChiCat on May 21, 2012, 09:17:05 AM
I just read Sense of Direction - nonfiction about a 30 year old with daddy issues doing pilgrimages around the world. It was pretty decent

the eff would compel you to read something like that?

Saw an article talk about how it was awesome.  It kinda captures that after college wanderlust pretty well.  And his daddy issues are fairly interesting, his was a Rabbi and came out as gay when the kid was 19.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: ChiCat on May 21, 2012, 12:52:37 PM
Now just finished Turn Right at Machu Picchu.  Nonfiction about a guy who employs a crocodile dundee-esque guide to take him on old Incan trail.  Good mix of adventure/history.  Incan history and their conquest by Spaniards is pretty nuts.  Reviews seemed to promise more humor than was delivered.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: felix rex on June 04, 2012, 08:57:20 AM
Now just finished Turn Right at Machu Picchu.  Nonfiction about a guy who employs a crocodile dundee-esque guide to take him on old Incan trail.  Good mix of adventure/history.  Incan history and their conquest by Spaniards is pretty nuts.  Reviews seemed to promise more humor than was delivered.

Inca humor is notoriously subtle.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: CNS on June 04, 2012, 09:30:11 AM
Just started The Castle in the Woods.  Haven't read Mailer before and also wanted to get familiarized with what to expect from oscar in the coming seasons. 
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: ben ji on June 04, 2012, 11:08:27 AM
North and South. Really long book but an interesting look at the antebellum south.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: michigancat on June 04, 2012, 11:11:08 AM
Now just finished Turn Right at Machu Picchu.  Nonfiction about a guy who employs a crocodile dundee-esque guide to take him on old Incan trail.  Good mix of adventure/history.  Incan history and their conquest by Spaniards is pretty nuts.  Reviews seemed to promise more humor than was delivered.

Inca humor is notoriously subtle.

:thumbs:
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on June 04, 2012, 12:31:33 PM
Oh man, just finished reading the first two books of Hunger Games.  Fun read.  Starting book three tonight.

Hunger Games > Catching Fire >Mockingjay

Good read, though I was disappointed with how the last 2 kind of scrambled to end.


The end of Mockingjay was just silly.  Like a little girl made it up.

Confirmed.  :sad:

Didn't think Catching Fire scrambled as much as Mockingjay did, Catching Fire made me want to read Mockingjay immediately. However, the end of Mockingjay was just brutal. I like to think it was just a rough draft and the real ending is coming out soon...
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Emo EMAW on December 11, 2012, 05:33:13 PM
My sister is coaching a club volleyball team.  I think she may have a future in coaching, or at least the development of youngsters.  What are some good books on coaching or leadership?  I would like something that seems to jive with what  :bill: does.  You know, the work hard, focus on what you can control, get better every day type stuff.  What say you?
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: michigancat on December 11, 2012, 05:51:09 PM
My sister is coaching a club volleyball team.  I think she may have a future in coaching, or at least the development of youngsters.  What are some good books on coaching or leadership?  I would like something that seems to jive with what  :bill: does.  You know, the work hard, focus on what you can control, get better every day type stuff.  What say you?

http://www.amazon.com/Inner-Game-Tennis-Classic-Performance/dp/0679778314
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: ew2x4 on December 11, 2012, 06:18:27 PM
Just finished Ready Player One. Kinda goofy, but it was fun.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Mr Bread on December 26, 2012, 01:00:23 PM
If you like GRRM, then read Joe Abercrombie.  He's very good.  I give him four out of a possible five breads. 
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Kat Kid on December 26, 2012, 01:03:13 PM
I think people should read Gomorrah.  Which is about the Napoli mafia.
Is that the basis for the movie Netflix keeps telling me to watch?

Pretty sure yes.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Kat Kid on December 26, 2012, 01:04:08 PM
My goal this Christmas break:

Read Villa and Zapata and Game of Thrones.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: 8manpick on December 26, 2012, 01:08:16 PM
I think people should read Gomorrah.  Which is about the Napoli mafia.
Is that the basis for the movie Netflix keeps telling me to watch?

Pretty sure yes.

I just bought it on Amazon for $0.01.  It better not suck, KK.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: michigancat on December 26, 2012, 02:49:55 PM
My goal this Christmas break:

Read Villa and Zapata and Game of Thrones.

GoT is tough at first because there's so many names and details, but plow through it and it's worth it.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: ChiCat on December 26, 2012, 03:07:59 PM
I am looking for a good food book.  I'll probably just finally read kitchen confidential.  There is some reluctant chef book that amazon keeps pushing though that it may just sell me on.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: chum1 on December 26, 2012, 03:16:03 PM
I actually just (finally) read kitchen confidential.  Had a pretty good idea of what to expect, but it was still pretty good.

I started Catch-22.  About 50 pages in, I was wondering if I'd finish it.  Then, I saw it was at the top of the list of books most often started and not finished on goodreads.  So, I'm now about a third done and determined to finish.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: SabiNation on December 26, 2012, 03:20:12 PM
Haven't read any of this thread so this might already be in here, but Outliers is fantastic if you like either (or both!) of the following:
 -Sports
 -Numbers/Statistics

I'm only like halfway through it but so far it's a great read
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: mocat on December 26, 2012, 03:24:38 PM
The Book of Lost Things was my favorite book from Fable & Fantasy @ KSU

reminds me of the movie Up in the sense that you may cry in the first chapter or two
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: TheHamburglar on December 26, 2012, 03:39:29 PM
If you want a quick, easy, entertaining read for a 2.5 hour flight: Downtown Owl by Chuck Klosterman.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on December 26, 2012, 03:50:17 PM
I am looking for a good food book.  I'll probably just finally read kitchen confidential.  There is some reluctant chef book that amazon keeps pushing though that it may just sell me on.

Bourdain's fiction isn't bad either...
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Cire on December 26, 2012, 03:51:17 PM
Got Empire of the summer moon, great look at Native American history and culture.  INcredibly easy read as well.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: j-dub on December 26, 2012, 03:53:03 PM
Got Empire of the summer moon, great look at Native American history and culture.  INcredibly easy read as well.

yeah, read this a couple years back. liked it very much.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Cartierfor3 on December 26, 2012, 04:05:49 PM
Got Empire of the summer moon, great look at Native American history and culture.  INcredibly easy read as well.

All book recommendos for CF3 need this disclaimer if I'm going to have any chance. #ReadingBooksIsHard
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: TheHamburglar on December 27, 2012, 03:49:31 PM
everyone should buy and then read this book which talks about goEMAW and probably other things

http://davegladow.com/eyeblack-odyssey/

I'm thinking about reading this book.  The KSU game in it is the only game in the past 15 years I did not either attend, watch, listen to, or care about as it was happening.  Weird. 
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: jtksu on December 27, 2012, 05:39:56 PM
I am starting Count of Monte Cristo.  Pretty good so far.  Just finished The Name of the Rose and V.

One of my fave books of all-time.  Just a fantastic story.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: nicname on December 27, 2012, 07:46:02 PM
Moby Dick

 :zzz:

Do Not Recommend.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: mocat on December 28, 2012, 08:22:02 AM
Was there ever a book that "broke" you guys? I was always a very eager reader but then sophomore year of high school we had to read Tale of Two Cities and it broke me. I could not get through it.  :frown:
Title: Re: Re: book recommendations
Post by: CNS on December 28, 2012, 09:22:26 AM
Was there ever a book that "broke" you guys? I was always a very eager reader but then sophomore year of high school we had to read Tale of Two Cities and it broke me. I could not get through it.  :frown:

Same one did it to me. Couldnt get through first 100pgs.  Tied again yrs later, pushed through the beginning and it turned out to be a very good book.

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Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: asava on December 28, 2012, 09:30:23 AM
Was there ever a book that "broke" you guys? I was always a very eager reader but then sophomore year of high school we had to read Tale of Two Cities and it broke me. I could not get through it.  :frown:

Started to read Anna Karenina. Broke me within 200 pages. Will try and pick it up again though.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: chum1 on December 28, 2012, 11:17:23 AM
For weird, unknown reasons, I've read the first 90% of The Great Gatsby three different times.  I doubt I'll ever try to finish it.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: asava on December 28, 2012, 11:19:30 AM
For weird, unknown reasons, I've read the first 90% of The Great Gatsby three different times.  I doubt I'll ever try to finish it.

It's your white whale, chum.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: michigancat on December 28, 2012, 11:29:38 AM
For weird, unknown reasons, I've read the first 90% of The Great Gatsby three different times.  I doubt I'll ever try to finish it.

That's weird. You only have like 20 pages left, right?
Title: Re: Re: book recommendations
Post by: mocat on December 28, 2012, 11:33:43 AM
Was there ever a book that "broke" you guys? I was always a very eager reader but then sophomore year of high school we had to read Tale of Two Cities and it broke me. I could not get through it.  :frown:

Same one did it to me. Couldnt get through first 100pgs.  Tied again yrs later, pushed through the beginning and it turned out to be a very good book.

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I need to get back on that horse!  :D
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Stevesie60 on December 28, 2012, 05:39:07 PM
Tale of Two Cities is so frustrating. I've read 75% of it, had no idea what was going on at any point, but just loved the prose. Would read lines that made me put the book down and just think about how beautiful and perfect Dickens' analogies were. But yeah, no idea what was happening page to page.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: libstradamus on December 28, 2012, 05:45:16 PM
Finished the rules of attraction last night... The movie was better.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Mr Bread on December 28, 2012, 05:54:07 PM
Finished the rules of attraction last night... The movie was better.

Oh crap, BEE :love:!!!  Less than zero? American psycho? :excited:

The movie was very good.  I bought it after I saw it.  It really reaffirms my view of life. 
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Willesgirl on December 28, 2012, 05:59:14 PM
Finished the rules of attraction last night... The movie was better.

Oh crap, BEE :love:!!!  Less than zero? American psycho? :excited:

The movie was very good.  I bought it after I saw it.  It really reaffirms my view of life.

So snorting coke, torture, mutilation and murder really speak to you, Bread? That fits.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: 8manpick on December 28, 2012, 06:24:15 PM
Finished the rules of attraction last night... The movie was better.

Oh crap, BEE :love:!!!  Less than zero? American psycho? :excited:

The movie was very good.  I bought it after I saw it.  It really reaffirms my view of life.

So snorting coke, torture, mutilation and murder really speak to you, Bread? That fits.

One out of four ain't bad
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: chum1 on December 28, 2012, 06:41:25 PM
For weird, unknown reasons, I've read the first 90% of The Great Gatsby three different times.  I doubt I'll ever try to finish it.

That's weird. You only have like 20 pages left, right?

On the second and third attempts, I was like, "Well, maybe I won't remember enough to fully appreciate the ending, so I'll start from the beginning again." Now, I'm just like, "I don't even think the book is all that good anyway."
Title: Re: Re: book recommendations
Post by: CNS on December 28, 2012, 07:23:00 PM
Tale of Two Cities is so frustrating. I've read 75% of it, had no idea what was going on at any point, but just loved the prose. Would read lines that made me put the book down and just think about how beautiful and perfect Dickens' analogies were. But yeah, no idea what was happening page to page.

Try the audio book. Listened to it after reading it and it was really good and easier to follow if you don't have a lot of reading time.

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Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Kat Kid on December 28, 2012, 07:40:15 PM
Was there ever a book that "broke" you guys? I was always a very eager reader but then sophomore year of high school we had to read Tale of Two Cities and it broke me. I could not get through it.  :frown:

Definitely.

Finnegan's Wake within two pages, Democracy in America after 50 or so.  I actually really like de Tocqueville's writing, but the prose is so good that it is a slow read and probably need to read it with a shepherd or with a group.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: bones129 on December 28, 2012, 07:48:52 PM
Books with pics. Illustrations are a must.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Cire on December 28, 2012, 08:27:53 PM
I liked take of two cities, Scarlett letter, woof
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: libstradamus on December 28, 2012, 08:56:19 PM
Finished the rules of attraction last night... The movie was better.

Oh crap, BEE :love:!!!  Less than zero? American psycho? :excited:

The movie was very good.  I bought it after I saw it.  It really reaffirms my view of life.

AP is one of my faves, read it twice.  Had to read glamorama in college, and BEE is definitely fantastic.

Going to read brave new world and then maybe less than zero.   There is a book on columbine that I'm eying as well.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Ron Princes Goatee on December 30, 2012, 01:14:09 PM
Currently slogging through A Tale of Two Cities. Reading this thread has made me very :ohno: about the prospect of finishing it.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Dlew12 on December 30, 2012, 01:21:41 PM
Tale of Two Cities is so frustrating. I've read 75% of it, had no idea what was going on at any point, but just loved the prose. Would read lines that made me put the book down and just think about how beautiful and perfect Dickens' analogies were. But yeah, no idea what was happening page to page.
oh man jakesie.  great post.  completely agreed re. Dickens' prose.  but TOTC is an incredible story too. it probably helps to have a little knowledge about the french revolution.  Sydney is my favorite character in any piece of literature.  i think i'm going to name my son (if i have one) Sydney, after old Sid Carton.

i've been battling through david copperfield over the last year or so whenever i've had time.  the story isn't near as good as TOTC, but it's just great writing.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: CNS on December 30, 2012, 01:26:52 PM
Bleak house is really good too fwiw

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Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Chingon on December 30, 2012, 01:29:23 PM
Just finished Blindness by Jose Saramango.  Really good, a bit tough to start with the style with no quotation marks and very long sentences, but it helps set the mood.  If possible read it with no spoilers from the outside.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Dlew12 on December 30, 2012, 01:32:47 PM
Bleak house is really good too fwiw

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i was about to buy that the other day but it looked really long and i hadn't heard anyone say anything good about it except for the back cover, which called it "Dickens' 'masterpiece.'"  But David Copperfield said the exact same thing.

I'll take your word for it though.  That'll be my next one.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: CNS on December 30, 2012, 01:38:56 PM
It is a tough one initially.  There are like 40 characters or something.  But like his others, a good payoff if you finish.

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Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Mr Bread on December 31, 2012, 12:22:29 PM
Finished the rules of attraction last night... The movie was better.

Oh crap, BEE :love:!!!  Less than zero? American psycho? :excited:

The movie was very good.  I bought it after I saw it.  It really reaffirms my view of life.

So snorting coke, torture, mutilation and murder really speak to you, Bread? That fits.

That's not what The Rules of Attraction is about, other than the coke snorting.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Mr Bread on December 31, 2012, 12:23:49 PM
Finished the rules of attraction last night... The movie was better.

Oh crap, BEE :love:!!!  Less than zero? American psycho? :excited:

The movie was very good.  I bought it after I saw it.  It really reaffirms my view of life.

AP is one of my faves, read it twice.  Had to read glamorama in college, and BEE is definitely fantastic.

Going to read brave new world and then maybe less than zero.   There is a book on columbine that I'm eying as well.

Less than zero is a good one.  Recommend.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: libstradamus on December 31, 2012, 04:07:03 PM
Finished the rules of attraction last night... The movie was better.

Oh crap, BEE :love:!!!  Less than zero? American psycho? :excited:

The movie was very good.  I bought it after I saw it.  It really reaffirms my view of life.

So snorting coke, torture, mutilation and murder really speak to you, Bread? That fits.

That's not what The Rules of Attraction is about, other than the coke snorting.

sadly, the best "chapter" is patricks.  i was so psyched about it and reading it in bale's voice that i had to immediately read it again.

rock n' roll.  deal with it.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: shivvyman on December 31, 2012, 07:01:18 PM
The Wolf of Wall Street.

Frat Boy / Jew / Baller / Womanizer / Addict......type of book.

Read it in 3 days. Pretty hilarious. Just saw they are making a move starring Leo D on it.

Would recommend.



Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on January 02, 2013, 08:49:59 AM
Finished the rules of attraction last night... The movie was better.

Oh crap, BEE :love:!!!  Less than zero? American psycho? :excited:

The movie was very good.  I bought it after I saw it.  It really reaffirms my view of life.

So snorting coke, torture, mutilation and murder really speak to you, Bread? That fits.

That's not what The Rules of Attraction is about, other than the coke snorting.

Maybe she's one of those people who think that if you do drugs, you support all of those other things. Do you remember those old commercials?
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Kat Kid on January 02, 2013, 09:02:09 AM

want a good cry?  read "A Happy Mrriage" by Rafael Yglesias
Title: book recommendations
Post by: felix rex on January 02, 2013, 10:49:50 AM
Just finished Blindness by Jose Saramango.  Really good, a bit tough to start with the style with no quotation marks and very long sentences, but it helps set the mood.  If possible read it with no spoilers from the outside.

Did you read it in Portuguese? Not being uppity, just wondered. I tried and caved. Was too much to process in a non-native language (as you described).
Title: book recommendations
Post by: felix rex on January 02, 2013, 10:50:52 AM
Also, you all should quit screwing around and just read Eco #teamchingon
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Kat Kid on January 02, 2013, 11:04:40 AM
Ready Player One will be the freshman book for KSU next year and it is apparently quite good.  Also short.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: michigancat on January 02, 2013, 11:43:01 AM
Also, you all should quit screwing around and just read Eco #teamchingon

what's a good one to start with?

I'm wanting to go on a good non-fiction kick. So much interesting stuff has happened in the world.
Title: Re: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Chingon on January 02, 2013, 12:18:16 PM
Just finished Blindness by Jose Saramango.  Really good, a bit tough to start with the style with no quotation marks and very long sentences, but it helps set the mood.  If possible read it with no spoilers from the outside.

Did you read it in Portuguese? Not being uppity, just wondered. I tried and caved. Was too much to process in a non-native language (as you described).
Read it in English.  After about the first three pages it seems natural and helps with the claustrophobic effect.  I am thinking about Cain next.

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Title: Re: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Chingon on January 02, 2013, 12:21:38 PM
Also, you all should quit screwing around and just read Eco #teamchingon

what's a good one to start with?

I'm wanting to go on a good non-fiction kick. So much interesting stuff has happened in the world.
I would say Foucault's pendulum or name of the rose first.  F C is my fave, but name of the rose is maybe better for people just starting eco (not that he's hard to read but FC has a challenging start on purpose that turns some readers off of Eco)

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Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: CNS on January 02, 2013, 02:21:11 PM
What if we just thought Name of the Rose was slightly abv avg?  Would the other pendulum one be something to read?
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: ew2x4 on January 02, 2013, 03:04:33 PM
Ready Player One will be the freshman book for KSU next year and it is apparently quite good.  Also short.

It's a quick read. I liked it, but it's not exactly fine literature.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Kat Kid on January 02, 2013, 04:35:31 PM
Ready Player One will be the freshman book for KSU next year and it is apparently quite good.  Also short.

It's a quick read. I liked it, but it's not exactly fine literature.

yeah.  i wouldn't think so.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: porky morgan on January 02, 2013, 05:51:10 PM
Try Endurance...amazing true story of an Antarctic exploration that totally went to crap, and the survival journey across the ice and brutal stormy seas. Really amazing and pretty well written. Pictures too!
Title: book recommendations
Post by: felix rex on January 03, 2013, 01:07:15 AM
Also, you all should quit screwing around and just read Eco #teamchingon

what's a good one to start with?

I'm wanting to go on a good non-fiction kick. So much interesting stuff has happened in the world.
I would say Foucault's pendulum or name of the rose first.  F C is my fave, but name of the rose is maybe better for people just starting eco (not that he's hard to read but FC has a challenging start on purpose that turns some readers off of Eco)

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Completely agree. Pendulum is better, Rose is more accessible (but even then the first 80 pages or so are intentionally challenging). I would almost recommend Baudolino. I think michcat would really enjoy it.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: bones129 on January 03, 2013, 01:20:30 AM
Serious post, my friends. Best baseball book? I used to say "Three Nights In August" by Tony LaRussa, or Kahn's "Boys of Summer." Tony's book for my greatest love about baseball--dugout strategy. Kahn's book for pure classic writing about baseball.

Now reading Tony's "One Last Srike." With 100 pages left, I suspect my award will likely go to "Boys of Summer." Not a current list read, but one of the best pieces of sportswriting I've ever seen. Could read it many times over.

Title: Re: Re: book recommendations
Post by: michigancat on January 03, 2013, 01:25:26 AM
Also, you all should quit screwing around and just read Eco #teamchingon

what's a good one to start with?

I'm wanting to go on a good non-fiction kick. So much interesting stuff has happened in the world.
I would say Foucault's pendulum or name of the rose first.  F C is my fave, but name of the rose is maybe better for people just starting eco (not that he's hard to read but FC has a challenging start on purpose that turns some readers off of Eco)

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Completely agree. Pendulum is better, Rose is more accessible (but even then the first 80 pages or so are intentionally challenging). I would almost recommend Baudolino. I think michcat would really enjoy it.

Currently reading "A Bright Shining Lie". So far, so good. I'll give Eco a try next. Maybe alternate fiction and non fiction.
Title: book recommendations
Post by: felix rex on January 03, 2013, 05:35:29 AM
Also, you all should quit screwing around and just read Eco #teamchingon

what's a good one to start with?

I'm wanting to go on a good non-fiction kick. So much interesting stuff has happened in the world.
I would say Foucault's pendulum or name of the rose first.  F C is my fave, but name of the rose is maybe better for people just starting eco (not that he's hard to read but FC has a challenging start on purpose that turns some readers off of Eco)

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Completely agree. Pendulum is better, Rose is more accessible (but even then the first 80 pages or so are intentionally challenging). I would almost recommend Baudolino. I think michcat would really enjoy it.

Currently reading "A Bright Shining Lie". So far, so good. I'll give Eco a try next. Maybe alternate fiction and non fiction.

Eco is a nice mix of the two genres. Especially baudolino. It would appeal to your cynical hipster side.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: mocat on January 03, 2013, 07:54:02 AM
This is the most entertaining non-fiction book I have read:

Ship of Gold in the Deep Blue Sea

http://www.amazon.com/Ship-Gold-Deep-Blue-Sea/dp/080214425X (http://www.amazon.com/Ship-Gold-Deep-Blue-Sea/dp/080214425X)
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: CNS on January 03, 2013, 09:08:15 AM
I have a hard time alternating fiction with non-fiction when the last fiction book I read was a really good one.  If it wasn't, that is when I move to non-fiction.

Also, if you are looking for non-fiction that is decent read, try Erik Larsen.  Earlier this year, I read In The Garden of Beasts.  It was really interesting.  It is about the ambassador to Berlin(and his family) during Hitler's rise right before the war.

Also, Devil in the White City was really good. 

Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on January 03, 2013, 10:06:03 AM
I have a hard time alternating fiction with non-fiction when the last fiction book I read was a really good one.  If it wasn't, that is when I move to non-fiction.

Also, if you are looking for non-fiction that is decent read, try Erik Larsen.  Earlier this year, I read In The Garden of Beasts.  It was really interesting.  It is about the ambassador to Berlin(and his family) during Hitler's rise right before the war.

Also, Devil in the White City was really good.

man, I could barely get through Devil....

Unbroken was a fascinating read....unreal what a man can endure.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: michigancat on January 03, 2013, 10:37:30 AM
I'm really interested in world and domestic politics and history. Those look good. "Devil in the Grove" about a Thurgood Marshall trial seems good too.
Title: book recommendations
Post by: felix rex on January 03, 2013, 11:52:58 AM
I'm really interested in world and domestic politics and history. Those look good. "Devil in the Grove" about a Thurgood Marshall trial seems good too.

Yeah, then read Eco and keep wiki-ing the historical events that serve as the backdrop.
Title: book recommendations
Post by: felix rex on January 03, 2013, 11:54:08 AM
Did you know that Europeans thought Genghis Khan was a Far East Christian King named Prester John who was helping them in the Crusades?
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: CNS on January 03, 2013, 12:05:29 PM
Just dl'ed both of the eco's and will try them after I finish Oliver Twist.  Just started it and it seems like it will go fast.
Title: book recommendations
Post by: felix rex on January 03, 2013, 12:33:32 PM
Both? Which two?
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: jtksu on January 03, 2013, 12:50:28 PM
Serious post, my friends. Best baseball book? I used to say "Three Nights In August" by Tony LaRussa, or Kahn's "Boys of Summer." Tony's book for my greatest love about baseball--dugout strategy. Kahn's book for pure classic writing about baseball.

Now reading Tony's "One Last Srike." With 100 pages left, I suspect my award will likely go to "Boys of Summer." Not a current list read, but one of the best pieces of sportswriting I've ever seen. Could read it many times over.

Bang the Drum Slowly is probably the best ever.  Moneyball was good.   Of course, The Natural is timeless.  I also like autobiographies but really just ones about favorite players like Kirby Puckett.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: CNS on January 03, 2013, 01:31:48 PM
Sorry, the pendulum one and Baulodino.  Already read Rose.

The Baulodino one does sound good in it's description.
Title: book recommendations
Post by: felix rex on January 03, 2013, 01:44:47 PM
Sorry, the pendulum one and Baulodino.  Already read Rose.

The Baulodino one does sound good in it's description.

Yes. It's wonderful. Not as jaw-droppingly crafted as pendulum (which from a technical aspect is just an amazing work of literature) but so fun and delightful in its playful and subtle condemnation of certain societal aspects.

As a dropout phd lit student, I think it's a matter of time until Eco becomes part of the canon. And I can't want to start using phrases like "ma gavte la nata" the same way we drop references to other common knowledge authors.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Cire on January 07, 2013, 10:22:26 PM
Sorry, the pendulum one and Baulodino.  Already read Rose.

The Baulodino one does sound good in it's description.

Yes. It's wonderful. Not as jaw-droppingly crafted as pendulum (which from a technical aspect is just an amazing work of literature) but so fun and delightful in its playful and subtle condemnation of certain societal aspects.

As a dropout phd lit student, I think it's a matter of time until Eco becomes part of the canon. And I can't want to start using phrases like "ma gavte la nata" the same way we drop references to other common knowledge authors.

Are these fiction?

Ready to start next non fiction.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Cire on January 07, 2013, 10:24:30 PM
Has anyone read undaunted courage?
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: michigancat on January 07, 2013, 10:30:22 PM
I'm reading Pendulum now along with the Vietnam book. Two books at once! Crazy!
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Cire on January 07, 2013, 10:36:09 PM
I'm reading Pendulum now along with the Vietnam book. Two books at once! Crazy!

Yeah I'm in got book three and just finished my Indian book
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: bubbles4ksu on January 08, 2013, 01:11:48 AM
Has anyone read undaunted courage?

yes. i liked it. a very fun way to learn more about that time period.

Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: MeatSauce on January 10, 2013, 10:03:00 AM
recently read list:

Sarum - I have not read any of Rutherfords other historical novels, but I did enjoy this, quite a lot.
Bless the Beasts and Children - random re-read.  still enjoyed after 15+ years.
Cloud Atlas: wow. yes. recommend. i'm sure it already is ITT.
50 Shades of Gray: oh

 
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: 8manpick on January 10, 2013, 10:49:17 AM
I think people should read Gomorrah.  Which is about the Napoli mafia.
Is that the basis for the movie Netflix keeps telling me to watch?

Pretty sure yes.

I just bought it on Amazon for $0.01.  It better not suck, KK.

So far it is very good.  I'm about 3/4 of the way through.  May try to get it finished up tonight.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Emo EMAW on January 10, 2013, 11:00:23 AM
Was there ever a book that "broke" you guys? I was always a very eager reader but then sophomore year of high school we had to read Tale of Two Cities and it broke me. I could not get through it.  :frown:

Fellowship of the Ring.  100 rough ridin' pages in a dark forest?  GTFOOMF!
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: michigancat on January 10, 2013, 11:50:15 AM
I'm "over the hump" with Pendulum. Man, Dan Brown, what a hack.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Emo EMAW on February 11, 2013, 08:48:50 AM
Got Empire of the summer moon, great look at Native American history and culture.  INcredibly easy read as well.

I've yet to read an indian book where the particular indian tribe wasn't the baddest of them all.  I've seen it said now about the Sioux, the Cherokee, the Apache, and now the Comanche.  WHO DO I BELIEVE?! :runaway:
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on February 11, 2013, 08:52:08 AM
Got Empire of the summer moon, great look at Native American history and culture.  INcredibly easy read as well.

I've yet to read an indian book where the particular indian tribe wasn't the baddest of them all.  I've seen it said now about the Sioux, the Cherokee, the Apache, and now the Comanche.  WHO DO I BELIEVE?! :runaway:

It was the Aztecs. The Inca were close, but it was the Aztecs.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on February 11, 2013, 08:53:26 AM
reading the Steve Jobs biography.    What an bad person.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on February 11, 2013, 08:55:38 AM
reading the Steve Jobs biography.    What an bad person.

I agree (haven't read his biography).
Title: book recommendations
Post by: felix rex on February 11, 2013, 10:39:15 AM
I'm "over the hump" with Pendulum. Man, Dan Brown, what a hack.

CONGRATS, RUSTY!
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: michigancat on February 11, 2013, 11:09:56 AM
I'm "over the hump" with Pendulum. Man, Dan Brown, what a hack.

CONGRATS, RUSTY!

Thanks, it's still going kind of slow because of game of thrones. Just had a hilarious Abulafia story with the gorem(?) turning to dust. "What are you talking about? I don't have a scroll". :lol:
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: EuroCat on February 11, 2013, 12:09:39 PM
Reading Liars Poker by Michael Lewis. Really interesting look into Wall Street/London City spun into an entertaining story.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: CNS on February 11, 2013, 12:17:52 PM
Just started Pendulum.  The first chapter was probably the nerdiest I have ever read outside of a text book.

No hate, just an observation regarding his love affair with points that have no dimension or size and cannot move.
Title: book recommendations
Post by: felix rex on February 11, 2013, 12:53:22 PM
Just started Pendulum.  The first chapter was probably the nerdiest I have ever read outside of a text book.

No hate, just an observation regarding his love affair with points that have no dimension or size and cannot move.

Hang in there, Casey. It's all worthwhile.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: michigancat on February 27, 2013, 06:30:28 PM
going for this for non-fiction:

http://www.amazon.com/The-Information-History-Theory-Flood/dp/1400096235/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1362011384&sr=8-1&keywords=the+information

And I need something for my next fiction. Maybe I'll try Hemingway again.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: the_ugly_clown on February 27, 2013, 06:38:08 PM
Did some un-thinkable and AMAZING things during his life.

http://www.amazon.com/Blood-Thunder-Carson-Conquest-American/dp/1400031109 (http://www.amazon.com/Blood-Thunder-Carson-Conquest-American/dp/1400031109)

Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Emo EMAW on February 27, 2013, 06:42:08 PM
Did some un-thinkable and AMAZING things during his life.

http://www.amazon.com/Blood-Thunder-Carson-Conquest-American/dp/1400031109 (http://www.amazon.com/Blood-Thunder-Carson-Conquest-American/dp/1400031109)

Didn't I already post this one?  Good read for sure.  On the drive to Phoenix I told the entire RV the story of Kit Carson.  Showed them Mt Taylor on the drive by, etc.
Title: Re: Re: book recommendations
Post by: michigancat on February 27, 2013, 06:44:26 PM
Did some un-thinkable and AMAZING things during his life.

http://www.amazon.com/Blood-Thunder-Carson-Conquest-American/dp/1400031109 (http://www.amazon.com/Blood-Thunder-Carson-Conquest-American/dp/1400031109)

looks awesome. Fun fact: one of my first reports ever was written about Kit Carson. I think I chose him because I thought his name was cool.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: SdK on February 27, 2013, 08:24:20 PM
"a heartbreaking work of staggering genius"

Got it as a Christmas present in '06 by a girlfriend. Loved the crap out of it.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: michigancat on March 07, 2013, 02:41:29 PM
The Sotweed Factor (very funny book) by John Barth (I have read almost all of his stuff an like it, but this is his best)

started reading this. It is very funny. I think I will enjoy it.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Lucas Scoopsalot on March 07, 2013, 02:45:45 PM
I just got done with the Steve Jobs biography. Very well written and a pretty easy read. I like reading biographies though, so that just might be me
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: ben ji on March 07, 2013, 04:39:24 PM
Almost done with The Revenge of Geography: What the Map Tells Us About Coming Conflicts and the Battle Against Fate.

Really good book if you are into history and geopolitics.

Also started Superfusion: How China and America Became One Economy and Why the World's Prosperity Depends on It.

Was written by a hedge fund manager who ran a China-US growth fund.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Emo EMAW on March 07, 2013, 04:54:47 PM
Almost done with The Revenge of Geography: What the Map Tells Us About Coming Conflicts and the Battle Against Fate.

Really good book if you are into history and geopolitics.

Also started Superfusion: How China and America Became One Economy and Why the World's Prosperity Depends on It.

Was written by a hedge fund manager who ran a China-US growth fund.

I bet you've either already read The Prize (Yergin) or would really enjoy it.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: KSUblumpkin on March 07, 2013, 05:03:14 PM
If anyone is into existential philosophy, I just finished History of the Concept of Time by Martin Heidegger.  This book blew my mind regarding my very perception of time and even had me questioning the nature of infinite time based on my linear existence.  It's a pretty dense book, but rewarding!
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: asava on March 11, 2013, 11:01:27 AM
If anyone is into existential philosophy, I just finished History of the Concept of Time by Martin Heidegger.  This book blew my mind regarding my very perception of time and even had me questioning the nature of infinite time based on my linear existence.  It's a pretty dense book, but rewarding!

Yep. "Being and Nothingness" by Satre is one of my faves.
Title: Re: Re: book recommendations
Post by: michigancat on March 11, 2013, 11:36:34 AM
If anyone is into existential philosophy, I just finished History of the Concept of Time by Martin Heidegger.  This book blew my mind regarding my very perception of time and even had me questioning the nature of infinite time based on my linear existence.  It's a pretty dense book, but rewarding!

Yep. "Being and Nothingness" by Satre is one of my faves.

could one read these before you go to bed, or will it put you right to sleep?

also, really enjoying sot-weed. Ebenezer seems like such a great listener.
Title: Re: Re: book recommendations
Post by: asava on March 11, 2013, 12:08:37 PM
If anyone is into existential philosophy, I just finished History of the Concept of Time by Martin Heidegger.  This book blew my mind regarding my very perception of time and even had me questioning the nature of infinite time based on my linear existence.  It's a pretty dense book, but rewarding!

Yep. "Being and Nothingness" by Satre is one of my faves.

could one read these before you go to bed, or will it put you right to sleep?

also, really enjoying sot-weed. Ebenezer seems like such a great listener.

There are several essays and lectures that are shorter and not as in depth that I find good reads before bed. With existentialists I find myself having to re-read several paragraphs in order to make sure I understand fully what they are getting at, so with the longer novels I tend to stay away from reading just before bed. You also run the risk of drastically changing your understanding of the world, which could keep you up for hours on end in contemplation.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: michigancat on March 11, 2013, 12:13:14 PM
You also run the risk of drastically changing your understanding of the world, which could keep you up for hours on end in contemplation.

I don't know. I'm usually pretty sleepy at bedtime. but yeah, the rereading thing.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: ben ji on March 11, 2013, 12:52:27 PM
Almost done with The Revenge of Geography: What the Map Tells Us About Coming Conflicts and the Battle Against Fate.

Really good book if you are into history and geopolitics.

Also started Superfusion: How China and America Became One Economy and Why the World's Prosperity Depends on It.

Was written by a hedge fund manager who ran a China-US growth fund.

I bet you've either already read The Prize (Yergin) or would really enjoy it.

Have not read it, just ordered it off amazon.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Emo EMAW on March 11, 2013, 01:03:26 PM
Almost done with The Revenge of Geography: What the Map Tells Us About Coming Conflicts and the Battle Against Fate.

Really good book if you are into history and geopolitics.

Also started Superfusion: How China and America Became One Economy and Why the World's Prosperity Depends on It.

Was written by a hedge fund manager who ran a China-US growth fund.

I bet you've either already read The Prize (Yergin) or would really enjoy it.

Have not read it, just ordered it off amazon.

 :thumbs:
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: ben ji on March 11, 2013, 01:24:25 PM
Finished this a while ago The Dead Hand: The Untold Story of the Cold War Arms Race and Its Dangerous Legacy

Very "Academic" book but there are some crazy stories in there about the USSR's Bio/Chemical/Nuclear weapon programs, some good ones off the top of my head....

We signed some treaty in the 70's banning development of chem/bio weapons. The Soviets just ignored it because they figured we were ignoring it too. We weren't  :frown:

This incident, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sverdlovsk_anthrax_leak ...Bunch of Anthrax gets out of their production facility and kills over 100 people. Soviets blame it on "tainted meat".

High level soviet scientists got paid crap, especially right after the USSR fell.

The USSR used to just ship bio/chem/nuclear weapons in "Armoured Train cars" which were basically just standard train cars with some Steel bolted on the side.

Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on March 12, 2013, 08:04:11 AM
I just listened to the World War Z audiobook. It was pretty good with a full cast of voices. But it seems like it is going to take a lot of adaptation to make it into a movie with a comprehensive storyline.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: ben ji on March 12, 2013, 09:16:52 AM
I just listened to the World War Z audiobook. It was pretty good with a full cast of voices. But it seems like it is going to take a lot of adaptation to make it into a movie with a comprehensive storyline.

Loved the book but I just know they will butcher the movie. IIRC it has been in "Development" for like 2 years now....FIGURE IT OUT BRAD PITT  :shakesfist:
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: mocat on March 12, 2013, 09:21:19 AM
You guys I'm about 80 pages into my 2nd attempt at A Tale of Two Cities. SO good. The first time I tried to read it I was 14 or 15. Too young I guess, because it's great.  :D
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Cire on March 12, 2013, 09:34:19 AM
Got Empire of the summer moon, great look at Native American history and culture.  INcredibly easy read as well.

I've yet to read an indian book where the particular indian tribe wasn't the baddest of them all.  I've seen it said now about the Sioux, the Cherokee, the Apache, and now the Comanche.  WHO DO I BELIEVE?! :runaway:

they are out there but tend to be academic and very dry.  EOTSM was written by a journalist and reads like it.

there is some truth to the notion that the sioux, apache(geronimo and cochise's bands etc) were in fact the baddest of their time and region.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: CNS on March 12, 2013, 09:38:59 AM
You guys I'm about 80 pages into my 2nd attempt at A Tale of Two Cities. SO good. The first time I tried to read it I was 14 or 15. Too young I guess, because it's great.  :D

Oh man, if you like the first 80pgs, you will really love the last 100 or so.   :excited:
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Kat Kid on March 20, 2013, 07:34:34 AM
I just ordered:  http://www.amazon.com/Family-Properties-Exploitation-America-ebook/dp/B003EI2EKE/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1363782853&sr=8-2&keywords=family+properties (http://www.amazon.com/Family-Properties-Exploitation-America-ebook/dp/B003EI2EKE/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1363782853&sr=8-2&keywords=family+properties)
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Cire on March 20, 2013, 08:24:36 AM
maybe jc nichols will be in there.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: mocat on March 20, 2013, 08:28:34 AM
You guys I'm about 80 pages into my 2nd attempt at A Tale of Two Cities. SO good. The first time I tried to read it I was 14 or 15. Too young I guess, because it's great.  :D

Oh man, if you like the first 80pgs, you will really love the last 100 or so.   :excited:


 :thumbs: :thumbs: :thumbs: :thumbs: :thumbs:
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Emo EMAW on March 20, 2013, 08:42:21 AM
I just ordered:  http://www.amazon.com/Family-Properties-Exploitation-America-ebook/dp/B003EI2EKE/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1363782853&sr=8-2&keywords=family+properties (http://www.amazon.com/Family-Properties-Exploitation-America-ebook/dp/B003EI2EKE/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1363782853&sr=8-2&keywords=family+properties)

Looks really depressing. 
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: ben ji on March 20, 2013, 08:42:47 AM
Almost done with The Revenge of Geography: What the Map Tells Us About Coming Conflicts and the Battle Against Fate.

Really good book if you are into history and geopolitics.

Also started Superfusion: How China and America Became One Economy and Why the World's Prosperity Depends on It.

Was written by a hedge fund manager who ran a China-US growth fund.

I bet you've either already read The Prize (Yergin) or would really enjoy it.

Have not read it, just ordered it off amazon.

 :thumbs:

Started reading it 2 nights ago and am about 100 pages in. REALLY ENJOY IT SO FAR!
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Emo EMAW on March 20, 2013, 08:44:23 AM
Almost done with The Revenge of Geography: What the Map Tells Us About Coming Conflicts and the Battle Against Fate.

Really good book if you are into history and geopolitics.

Also started Superfusion: How China and America Became One Economy and Why the World's Prosperity Depends on It.

Was written by a hedge fund manager who ran a China-US growth fund.

I bet you've either already read The Prize (Yergin) or would really enjoy it.

Have not read it, just ordered it off amazon.

 :thumbs:

Started reading it 2 nights ago and am about 100 pages in. REALLY ENJOY IT SO FAR!

 :thumbs: :thumbs:

I'm pretty bad with names so I had to keep a notebook handy when I read it to write down new characters and what they did.  He'll go a 100 pages not talking about some dude and them bam there is he again and you're like wait WTF is this guy again? 
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: ben ji on March 20, 2013, 09:10:57 AM
Almost done with The Revenge of Geography: What the Map Tells Us About Coming Conflicts and the Battle Against Fate.

Really good book if you are into history and geopolitics.

Also started Superfusion: How China and America Became One Economy and Why the World's Prosperity Depends on It.

Was written by a hedge fund manager who ran a China-US growth fund.

I bet you've either already read The Prize (Yergin) or would really enjoy it.

Have not read it, just ordered it off amazon.

 :thumbs:

Started reading it 2 nights ago and am about 100 pages in. REALLY ENJOY IT SO FAR!

 :thumbs: :thumbs:

I'm pretty bad with names so I had to keep a notebook handy when I read it to write down new characters and what they did.  He'll go a 100 pages not talking about some dude and them bam there is he again and you're like wait WTF is this guy again?

I keep my phone handy and google the random places they were finding oil, they use old timey names like borneo and baku instead of Indonesia and Azerbaijan. I know the general location of those places but it really helps to pinpoint them on the map.

Just got to the part where they start talking about the beginning of the Russian Revolution and how Stalin got his start organizing the oil workers into unions. :excited:
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: FuzzyWuzzy on March 20, 2013, 08:28:48 PM
I'm about to start The Looming Tower.  Has anyone read?  My bro said it's a must read.  also, english can go eff itself for read/read
http://www.amazon.com/Looming-Tower-Al-Qaeda-Road-11/dp/1400030846
Title: Re: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Kat Kid on March 20, 2013, 09:17:33 PM
I'm about to start The Looming Tower.  Has anyone read?  My bro said it's a must read.  also, english can go eff itself for read/read
http://www.amazon.com/Looming-Tower-Al-Qaeda-Road-11/dp/1400030846

Read monstering and hubris and Woodward's books.  That one I heard was good too.  I think I may have gone a little nuts post 9/11 and Iraq war era current events reading.

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Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Lucas Scoopsalot on March 26, 2013, 07:05:21 PM
Just got done reading "The Harbinger", it was interesting.
Title: Re: Re: book recommendations
Post by: FuzzyWuzzy on March 26, 2013, 07:28:03 PM
I'm about to start The Looming Tower.  Has anyone read?  My bro said it's a must read.  also, english can go eff itself for read/read
http://www.amazon.com/Looming-Tower-Al-Qaeda-Road-11/dp/1400030846

Read monstering and hubris and Woodward's books.  That one I heard was good too.  I think I may have gone a little nuts post 9/11 and Iraq war era current events reading.

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would you recommend any of those?  Looming Tower is very good so far.  It is pretty much just a collection of facts pulled from the 50 years preceding 9/11 and organized into a narrative describing the confluence of events on both sides which culminated in the attack.  The book is colored by the author's perspective here and there, but it is usually pretty clear when he is reading between the lines.
Title: Re: Re: book recommendations
Post by: felix rex on March 27, 2013, 06:27:18 AM
I'm about to start The Looming Tower.  Has anyone read?  My bro said it's a must read.  also, english can go eff itself for read/read
http://www.amazon.com/Looming-Tower-Al-Qaeda-Road-11/dp/1400030846

Read monstering and hubris and Woodward's books.  That one I heard was good too.  I think I may have gone a little nuts post 9/11 and Iraq war era current events reading.

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I actually had a better experience reading things Said and Lewis wrote before 9/11. And if you can get a copy, Habib's "Warriors of Islam" is rough ridin' fantastic (but it's out of print and the CIA bought up most of the copies).
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: felix rex on March 27, 2013, 06:27:52 AM
I just ordered:  http://www.amazon.com/Family-Properties-Exploitation-America-ebook/dp/B003EI2EKE/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1363782853&sr=8-2&keywords=family+properties (http://www.amazon.com/Family-Properties-Exploitation-America-ebook/dp/B003EI2EKE/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1363782853&sr=8-2&keywords=family+properties)

Also :love:
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: CNS on March 27, 2013, 08:06:37 AM
I just typed in Warriors of Islam into Amazon and it gave me a  :dunno:
Title: book recommendations
Post by: felix rex on March 27, 2013, 08:43:38 AM
Here's the full title:

Ibn Sa'ud's Warriors of Islam: The Ikhwan of Najd and Their Role in the Creation of the Sa'udi Kingdom, 1910-1930

I could never find one and eventually had a mutual professional acquaintance ask him for a copy.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: CNS on March 27, 2013, 08:46:43 AM
What about it made the CIA get all CIA'ey?
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Kat Kid on March 27, 2013, 08:49:30 AM
I just ordered:  http://www.amazon.com/Family-Properties-Exploitation-America-ebook/dp/B003EI2EKE/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1363782853&sr=8-2&keywords=family+properties (http://www.amazon.com/Family-Properties-Exploitation-America-ebook/dp/B003EI2EKE/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1363782853&sr=8-2&keywords=family+properties)

Also :love:

Pretty great so far.  If I could have any person review it, I would probably choose David Duke.  Jews scheming/cheating black people in an Irish-controlled city.
Title: book recommendations
Post by: felix rex on March 27, 2013, 11:23:03 AM
What about it made the CIA get all CIA'ey?

They bought up copies for their own internal training courses.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: michigancat on March 27, 2013, 02:49:27 PM
I just ordered:  http://www.amazon.com/Family-Properties-Exploitation-America-ebook/dp/B003EI2EKE/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1363782853&sr=8-2&keywords=family+properties (http://www.amazon.com/Family-Properties-Exploitation-America-ebook/dp/B003EI2EKE/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1363782853&sr=8-2&keywords=family+properties)

Also :love:

Pretty great so far.  If I could have any person review it, I would probably choose David Duke.  Jews scheming/cheating black people in an Irish-controlled city.

I WILL READ THIS TOO.

The problem with books is there are so many and so little time. That's why I'm glad we have this thread, friends.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Emo EMAW on March 27, 2013, 02:58:29 PM
Here's the problem with books/reading:  no one has ever said "no, not tonight honey, I'd like to read instead."
Title: book recommendations
Post by: felix rex on March 28, 2013, 10:09:10 AM
I just ordered:  http://www.amazon.com/Family-Properties-Exploitation-America-ebook/dp/B003EI2EKE/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1363782853&sr=8-2&keywords=family+properties (http://www.amazon.com/Family-Properties-Exploitation-America-ebook/dp/B003EI2EKE/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1363782853&sr=8-2&keywords=family+properties)

Also :love:

Pretty great so far.  If I could have any person review it, I would probably choose David Duke.  Jews scheming/cheating black people in an Irish-controlled city.

I WILL READ THIS TOO.

The problem with books is there are so many and so little time. That's why I'm glad we have this thread, friends.

YES! I would have never seen this book but now I'm absolutely gonna read it. Thanks, KK.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Kat Kid on March 28, 2013, 10:41:22 AM
http://www.amazon.com/Off-Books-Underground-Economy-Urban/dp/0674023552/ref=pd_bbs_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1207624317&sr=8-2 (http://www.amazon.com/Off-Books-Underground-Economy-Urban/dp/0674023552/ref=pd_bbs_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1207624317&sr=8-2)

This book by Venkatesh got me interested in the subject after Freakanomics referenced the salaries of drug dealers.  "Off the books" is one of my favorite books ever.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: ChiCat on March 31, 2013, 04:08:38 PM
http://www.amazon.com/Off-Books-Underground-Economy-Urban/dp/0674023552/ref=pd_bbs_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1207624317&sr=8-2 (http://www.amazon.com/Off-Books-Underground-Economy-Urban/dp/0674023552/ref=pd_bbs_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1207624317&sr=8-2)

This book by Venkatesh got me interested in the subject after Freakanomics referenced the salaries of drug dealers.  "Off the books" is one of my favorite books ever.

Racist Goldbrick thread just pushed me over the edge to buy this.  Might be a couple month's til I have time to read it, but oh well.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: ben ji on April 18, 2013, 06:41:13 PM
Almost done with The Revenge of Geography: What the Map Tells Us About Coming Conflicts and the Battle Against Fate.

Really good book if you are into history and geopolitics.

Also started Superfusion: How China and America Became One Economy and Why the World's Prosperity Depends on It.

Was written by a hedge fund manager who ran a China-US growth fund.

I bet you've either already read The Prize (Yergin) or would really enjoy it.

Have not read it, just ordered it off amazon.

 :thumbs:

Finally getting to the end of this 800 page monstrosity and they are talking about T Boone Pickens. I had never heard of the guy before he started throwing cash at OSU but he was/is a freaking baller.

He was a pretty small player up until the 80's when there was a surplus of Oil and Oil companies stocks were depressed and undervalued. XYZ Oil companies would have a market cap of say 300 million but proven reserves worth 900 million so he would buy the company. After a couple of times the big major oil companies caught on so he switched tactics.

The big whammy was when Gulf Oil was undervalued....He secretly bought around 25% of the shares of Gulf Oil when the price was around $40 and made a takeover bid at $62 a share. He knew that this was stupid low but it started a bidding war for Gulf Oil among the bigger oil companies and they were eventually bought out by Chevron at $80 a share....T Boone made a cool $760 million(pretax) on the deal. :sdeek:
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Emo EMAW on April 19, 2013, 01:35:24 PM
Glad you're enjoying it ben ji! 
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: michigancat on April 19, 2013, 04:48:06 PM
I got bored with Sotweed Factor. It kind of reminded me of Confederacy of Dunces but didn't quite grab me after 250 pages or so.

Any good modern fiction?
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Demo158 on April 19, 2013, 04:57:31 PM
I just listened to the World War Z audiobook. It was pretty good with a full cast of voices. But it seems like it is going to take a lot of adaptation to make it into a movie with a comprehensive storyline.

Loved the book but I just know they will butcher the movie. IIRC it has been in "Development" for like 2 years now....FIGURE IT OUT BRAD PITT  :shakesfist:
Yeah there's no way the movie will be able to encompass even a quarter of the stories told in the book. One of those that should've just been left alone :facepalm:
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: michigancat on April 19, 2013, 04:58:17 PM
I just listened to the World War Z audiobook. It was pretty good with a full cast of voices. But it seems like it is going to take a lot of adaptation to make it into a movie with a comprehensive storyline.

Loved the book but I just know they will butcher the movie. IIRC it has been in "Development" for like 2 years now....FIGURE IT OUT BRAD PITT  :shakesfist:
Yeah there's no way the movie will be able to encompass even a quarter of the stories told in the book. One of those that should've just been left alone :facepalm:

Or done as a tv series? (haven't read, but maybe!)
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: jmlynch1 on April 19, 2013, 05:00:06 PM
KState common book for next year's incoming fresmen is Ready Player One. Anyone read it?
Title: Re: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Chingon on April 19, 2013, 10:39:38 PM
I got bored with Sotweed Factor. It kind of reminded me of Confederacy of Dunces but didn't quite grab me after 250 pages or so.

Any good modern fiction?
Sounds like Nicholas Sparks might be more your speed. :mean:
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: kim carnes on April 19, 2013, 10:42:38 PM
hey chingon, what is it like to read and yet still be so simple minded?
Title: Re: Re: Re: book recommendations
Post by: michigancat on April 19, 2013, 10:52:17 PM
I got bored with Sotweed Factor. It kind of reminded me of Confederacy of Dunces but didn't quite grab me after 250 pages or so.

Any good modern fiction?
Sounds like Nicholas Sparks might be more your speed. :mean:

It was really very funny and the dialogue was great. Just took too long to go anywhere. I may try it again sometime.
Title: Re: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Chingon on April 19, 2013, 10:56:11 PM
hey chingon, what is it like to read and yet still be so simple minded?
Dunno Kim why don't you tell me.

Ooh burn.  Ice burn. Cold blooded.
Title: Re: Re: book recommendations
Post by: kim carnes on April 19, 2013, 11:12:11 PM
hey chingon, what is it like to read and yet still be so simple minded?
Dunno Kim why don't you tell me.

Ooh burn.  Ice burn. Cold blooded.

i couldn't tell you.  my question was serious.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: michigancat on April 26, 2013, 12:14:25 AM
Currently reading the Brothers K and it's pretty amazing so far.

http://www.amazon.com/The-Brothers-David-James-Duncan/dp/055337849X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1366953032&sr=8-1&keywords=brothers+k


Also reading some Allan Watts and it's pretty disappointing so far.

http://www.amazon.com/The-Wisdom-Insecurity-Message-Anxiety/dp/0307741206/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1366953238&sr=8-4&keywords=age+of+anxiety
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: SkinnyBenny on April 29, 2013, 05:39:54 PM
KState common book for next year's incoming freshmen is Ready Player One. Anyone read it?

Hey real life friend. I was just about to ask the same question!    me--> :cool:  :cool: <--you Comes highly recommended to me from a friend but I've never been into much that could be seen as Sci Fi'y. Thoughts, buddies?

Also, one of the best books I have ever read is Middlesex, by Jeffrey Eugenides. One of the worst books I have ever read is his follow-up, which came out last year, The Marriage Plot. Highly disappointing considering how brilliant its predecessor was.

Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Kat Kid on April 29, 2013, 07:51:39 PM
KState common book for next year's incoming freshmen is Ready Player One. Anyone read it?

Hey real life friend. I was just about to ask the same question!    me--> :cool:  :cool: <--you Comes highly recommended to me from a friend but I've never been into much that could be seen as Sci Fi'y. Thoughts, buddies?

Also, one of the best books I have ever read is Middlesex, by Jeffrey Eugenides. One of the worst books I have ever read is his follow-up, which came out last year, The Marriage Plot. Highly disappointing considering how brilliant its predecessor was.

My mom read Middlesex.  She reads a lot of Oprah book club books.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: SkinnyBenny on April 29, 2013, 10:56:27 PM
I have read three and they have all been fantastic. (Not joking.) Also, KK. You are, like, from Detroit or something. Are you trying to tell me you haven't read Middlesex???
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: 'taterblast on May 13, 2013, 12:46:04 PM
i'm one of the people that read The Great Gatsby last week  :embarrassed:
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on May 13, 2013, 01:05:34 PM
i've one of the people that read The Great Gatsby last week  :embarrassed:

I had to read it for high school. I didn't really like it then, but I'd probably like it more if I read it today. :dunno:
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: 'taterblast on May 13, 2013, 01:08:30 PM
i've one of the people that read The Great Gatsby last week  :embarrassed:

I had to read it for high school. I didn't really like it then, but I'd probably like it more if I read it today. :dunno:

yep, same. didn't really pay attention to it when it was required reading (shocker), but it's a quick read and good.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: michigancat on May 13, 2013, 01:15:26 PM
seems like an odd "required reading" book. I just kinda thought it was an OK story. And the ending when everyone dies was sloppy writing IMO.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on May 13, 2013, 01:17:34 PM
I read it in high school too. I wanna go see the movie, but my friends want to read the book first.  :frown:
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Emo EMAW on May 13, 2013, 01:21:25 PM
Anyone else get shocked at the books their wife's hayseed school didn't make them read?
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: mocat on May 13, 2013, 02:10:42 PM
Anyone else get shocked at the books their wife's hayseed school didn't make them read?

yes, all of them
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: CNS on May 13, 2013, 02:21:32 PM
i've one of the people that read The Great Gatsby last week  :embarrassed:

I had to read it for high school. I didn't really like it then, but I'd probably like it more if I read it today. :dunno:

Same.  Went back and read it again about 5 yrs ago.  I liked it quite a bit.  Not deep, but a good read.

Also, it's a good idea to give several of the hated HS required reads a second look.  Used to absolutely hate Stienbeck in HS, but he is one of my favs now.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: ChiCat on May 13, 2013, 02:24:43 PM
Read a book about some chick who's uncle runs Scientology and she was raised in the church's ridiculous organization before bolting in her 20s.  Really, not as shocking as I'd hoped.  Pretty much shrugged the whole time going "Well, that's one thing that batshit insane people might do"
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: CNS on May 13, 2013, 02:26:12 PM
Read a book about some chick who's uncle runs Scientology and she was raised in the church's ridiculous organization before bolting in her 20s.  Really, not as shocking as I'd hoped.  Pretty much shrugged the whole time going "Well, that's one thing that batshit insane people might do"

Really hoping Libby or the other recently escaped Phelps daughters does this.  Would probably be pretty interesting/disturbing.  Would make them some dece money now that their family has disowned them. 

Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: ChiCat on May 13, 2013, 02:28:50 PM
Read a book about some chick who's uncle runs Scientology and she was raised in the church's ridiculous organization before bolting in her 20s.  Really, not as shocking as I'd hoped.  Pretty much shrugged the whole time going "Well, that's one thing that batshit insane people might do"

Really hoping Libby or the other recently escaped Phelps daughters does this.  Would probably be pretty interesting/disturbing.  Would make them some dece money now that their family has disowned them. 



It seems interesting but now that I've read this one, I don't know what the point is.  I mean, what in that book is really going to surprise you? 
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: CNS on May 13, 2013, 02:31:35 PM
Read a book about some chick who's uncle runs Scientology and she was raised in the church's ridiculous organization before bolting in her 20s.  Really, not as shocking as I'd hoped.  Pretty much shrugged the whole time going "Well, that's one thing that batshit insane people might do"

Really hoping Libby or the other recently escaped Phelps daughters does this.  Would probably be pretty interesting/disturbing.  Would make them some dece money now that their family has disowned them. 



It seems interesting but now that I've read this one, I don't know what the point is.  I mean, what in that book is really going to surprise you?

Nothing, probably.  I mean, that group seems so messed up I would believe pretty much anything about them.  Would just be interesting to read a point of view perspective about something that deeply screwed up with the contrast of no longer believing it.  I don't have to be surprised to be interested. 

The two should do it more for the money than my interest, though.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: KSUblumpkin on May 13, 2013, 04:13:15 PM
I finished Ready Player One over my lunch break and thought it was a pretty decent book.  It was an 80s reference heavy book, but I dug it.  The first 100 or so pages were pretty boring (talking about how the world has gone to crap and the OASIS which is a massive online simulation that everyone pretty much lives in).  It was a coming to age book that didn't require much thought, but I had a blast reading it.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: felix rex on May 15, 2013, 08:06:18 AM
Review of Dan Brown's "Inferno":

Quote
Renowned author Dan Brown woke up in his luxurious four-poster bed in his expensive $10 million house – and immediately he felt angry. Most people would have thought that the 48-year-old man had no reason to be angry. After all, the famous writer had a new book coming out. But that was the problem. A new book meant an inevitable attack on the rich novelist by the wealthy wordsmith’s fiercest foes. The critics.

Renowned author Dan Brown hated the critics. Ever since he had become one of the world’s top renowned authors they had made fun of him. They had mocked bestselling book The Da Vinci Code, successful novel Digital Fortress, popular tome Deception Point, money-spinning volume Angels & Demons and chart-topping work of narrative fiction The Lost Symbol.

The critics said his writing was clumsy, ungrammatical, repetitive and repetitive. They said it was full of unnecessary tautology. They said his prose was swamped in a sea of mixed metaphors. For some reason they found something funny in sentences such as “His eyes went white, like a shark about to attack.” They even say my books are packed with banal and superfluous description, thought the 5ft 9in man. He particularly hated it when they said his imagery was nonsensical. It made his insect eyes flash like a rocket.

Renowned author Dan Brown got out of his luxurious four-poster bed in his expensive $10 million house and paced the bedroom, using the feet located at the ends of his two legs to propel him forwards. He knew he shouldn’t care what a few jealous critics thought. His new book Inferno was coming out on Tuesday, and the 480-page hardback published by Doubleday with a recommended US retail price of $29.95 was sure to be a hit. Wasn’t it?

I’ll call my agent, pondered the prosperous scribe. He reached for the telephone using one of his two hands. “Hello, this is renowned author Dan Brown,” spoke renowned author Dan Brown. “I want to talk to literary agent John Unconvincingname.”

“Mr Unconvincingname, it’s renowned author Dan Brown,” told the voice at the other end of the line. Instantly the voice at the other end of the line was replaced by a different voice at the other end of the line. “Hello, it’s literary agent John Unconvincingname,” informed the new voice at the other end of the line.

“Hello agent John, it’s client Dan,” commented the pecunious scribbler. “I’m worried about new book Inferno. I think critics are going to say it’s badly written.”

The voice at the other end of the line gave a sigh, like a mighty oak toppling into a great river, or something else that didn’t sound like a sigh if you gave it a moment’s thought. “Who cares what the stupid critics say?” advised the literary agent. “They’re just snobs. You have millions of fans.”

That’s true, mused the accomplished composer of thrillers that combined religion, high culture and conspiracy theories. His books were read by everyone from renowned politician President Obama to renowned musician Britney Spears. It was said that a copy of The Da Vinci Code had even found its way into the hands of renowned monarch the Queen. He was grateful for his good fortune, and gave thanks every night in his prayers to renowned deity God.

“Think of all the money you’ve made,” recommended the literary agent. That was true too. The thriving ink-slinger’s wealth had allowed him to indulge his passion for great art. Among his proudest purchases were a specially commissioned landscape by acclaimed painter Vincent van Gogh and a signed first edition by revered scriptwriter William Shakespeare.

Renowned author Dan Brown smiled, the ends of his mouth curving upwards in a physical expression of pleasure. He felt much better. If your books brought innocent delight to millions of readers, what did it matter whether you knew the difference between a transitive and an intransitive verb?

“Thanks, John,” he thanked. Then he put down the telephone and perambulated on foot to the desk behind which he habitually sat on a chair to write his famous books on an Apple iMac MD093B/A computer. New book Inferno, the latest in his celebrated series about fictional Harvard professor Robert Langdon, was inspired by top Italian poet Dante. It wouldn’t be the last in the lucrative sequence, either. He had all the sequels mapped out. The Mozart Acrostic. The Michelangelo Wordsearch. The Newton Sudoku.

The 190lb adult male human being nodded his head to indicate satisfaction and returned to his bedroom by walking there. Still asleep in the luxurious four-poster bed of the expensive $10 million house was beautiful wife Mrs Brown. Renowned author Dan Brown gazed admiringly at the pulchritudinous brunette’s blonde tresses, flowing from her head like a stream but made from hair instead of water and without any fish in. She was as majestic as the finest sculpture by Caravaggio or the most coveted portrait by Rodin. I like the attractive woman, thought the successful man.

Perhaps one day, inspired by beautiful wife Mrs Brown, he would move into romantic poetry, like market-leading British rhymester John Keats. That would be good, opined the talented person, and got back into the luxurious four-poster bed. He felt as happy as a man who has something to be happy about and is suitably happy about it.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on May 15, 2013, 08:18:27 AM
The Da Vinci Code was a fun read. I don't care if it was poorly written. It seems to me that the publisher should find an editor for Brown and people should just lay off of him so he can tell his stories in piece.





The mistake was intentional, critics.
Title: Re: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Rams on May 15, 2013, 08:22:40 AM
Review of Dan Brown's "Inferno":

Quote
Renowned author Dan Brown woke up in his luxurious four-poster bed in his expensive $10 million house – and immediately he felt angry. Most people would have thought that the 48-year-old man had no reason to be angry. After all, the famous writer had a new book coming out. But that was the problem. A new book meant an inevitable attack on the rich novelist by the wealthy wordsmith’s fiercest foes. The critics.

Renowned author Dan Brown hated the critics. Ever since he had become one of the world’s top renowned authors they had made fun of him. They had mocked bestselling book The Da Vinci Code, successful novel Digital Fortress, popular tome Deception Point, money-spinning volume Angels & Demons and chart-topping work of narrative fiction The Lost Symbol.

The critics said his writing was clumsy, ungrammatical, repetitive and repetitive. They said it was full of unnecessary tautology. They said his prose was swamped in a sea of mixed metaphors. For some reason they found something funny in sentences such as “His eyes went white, like a shark about to attack.” They even say my books are packed with banal and superfluous description, thought the 5ft 9in man. He particularly hated it when they said his imagery was nonsensical. It made his insect eyes flash like a rocket.

Renowned author Dan Brown got out of his luxurious four-poster bed in his expensive $10 million house and paced the bedroom, using the feet located at the ends of his two legs to propel him forwards. He knew he shouldn’t care what a few jealous critics thought. His new book Inferno was coming out on Tuesday, and the 480-page hardback published by Doubleday with a recommended US retail price of $29.95 was sure to be a hit. Wasn’t it?

I’ll call my agent, pondered the prosperous scribe. He reached for the telephone using one of his two hands. “Hello, this is renowned author Dan Brown,” spoke renowned author Dan Brown. “I want to talk to literary agent John Unconvincingname.”

“Mr Unconvincingname, it’s renowned author Dan Brown,” told the voice at the other end of the line. Instantly the voice at the other end of the line was replaced by a different voice at the other end of the line. “Hello, it’s literary agent John Unconvincingname,” informed the new voice at the other end of the line.

“Hello agent John, it’s client Dan,” commented the pecunious scribbler. “I’m worried about new book Inferno. I think critics are going to say it’s badly written.”

The voice at the other end of the line gave a sigh, like a mighty oak toppling into a great river, or something else that didn’t sound like a sigh if you gave it a moment’s thought. “Who cares what the stupid critics say?” advised the literary agent. “They’re just snobs. You have millions of fans.”

That’s true, mused the accomplished composer of thrillers that combined religion, high culture and conspiracy theories. His books were read by everyone from renowned politician President Obama to renowned musician Britney Spears. It was said that a copy of The Da Vinci Code had even found its way into the hands of renowned monarch the Queen. He was grateful for his good fortune, and gave thanks every night in his prayers to renowned deity God.

“Think of all the money you’ve made,” recommended the literary agent. That was true too. The thriving ink-slinger’s wealth had allowed him to indulge his passion for great art. Among his proudest purchases were a specially commissioned landscape by acclaimed painter Vincent van Gogh and a signed first edition by revered scriptwriter William Shakespeare.

Renowned author Dan Brown smiled, the ends of his mouth curving upwards in a physical expression of pleasure. He felt much better. If your books brought innocent delight to millions of readers, what did it matter whether you knew the difference between a transitive and an intransitive verb?

“Thanks, John,” he thanked. Then he put down the telephone and perambulated on foot to the desk behind which he habitually sat on a chair to write his famous books on an Apple iMac MD093B/A computer. New book Inferno, the latest in his celebrated series about fictional Harvard professor Robert Langdon, was inspired by top Italian poet Dante. It wouldn’t be the last in the lucrative sequence, either. He had all the sequels mapped out. The Mozart Acrostic. The Michelangelo Wordsearch. The Newton Sudoku.

The 190lb adult male human being nodded his head to indicate satisfaction and returned to his bedroom by walking there. Still asleep in the luxurious four-poster bed of the expensive $10 million house was beautiful wife Mrs Brown. Renowned author Dan Brown gazed admiringly at the pulchritudinous brunette’s blonde tresses, flowing from her head like a stream but made from hair instead of water and without any fish in. She was as majestic as the finest sculpture by Caravaggio or the most coveted portrait by Rodin. I like the attractive woman, thought the successful man.

Perhaps one day, inspired by beautiful wife Mrs Brown, he would move into romantic poetry, like market-leading British rhymester John Keats. That would be good, opined the talented person, and got back into the luxurious four-poster bed. He felt as happy as a man who has something to be happy about and is suitably happy about it.
that's great. also makes me feel better for not reading any of his books. :sdeek:
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on May 15, 2013, 08:26:47 AM
My favorite thing about Dan Brown books is that they only take a few hours to read. Orson Scott Card books are the same way, though the critics don't give him nearly as much flak.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: felix rex on May 15, 2013, 08:33:45 AM
I'm not criticizing Brown. Good for him. He's like the Two and a Half Men and Big Bang Theory of books. Hate the game etc. I just really enjoyed the review.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Cire on May 15, 2013, 09:28:41 AM
light fun quick easy reads.  how awful.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: mocat on May 15, 2013, 09:45:28 AM
Just like Katy Perry or Michael Bay, just in book form.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: bubbles4ksu on May 24, 2013, 02:46:12 PM
anyone have a great audiobook recommendo? i prefer non-fiction, but anything works.

i just finished The Bros. Karamazov. it was fantastic.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: kitten_mittons on May 24, 2013, 02:47:58 PM
Zombie podcast
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 24, 2013, 02:50:58 PM
World War Z audiobook was pretty good.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: The1BigWillie on May 24, 2013, 02:51:55 PM
Life Before Life
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: bubbles4ksu on May 26, 2013, 08:55:07 PM
Life Before Life

the eff? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life_Before_Life (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life_Before_Life)
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Panjandrum on May 27, 2013, 12:45:48 AM
light fun quick easy reads.  how awful.

They are good on a plane. That's where I've read all of the Langdon books.

I have a hard time concentrating on planes.  I just need a mindless page turner.  Brown works in that spot.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: sys on May 27, 2013, 01:02:07 AM
great review, lolled several times.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: michigancat on May 28, 2013, 06:19:39 PM
I just ordered:  http://www.amazon.com/Family-Properties-Exploitation-America-ebook/dp/B003EI2EKE/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1363782853&sr=8-2&keywords=family+properties (http://www.amazon.com/Family-Properties-Exploitation-America-ebook/dp/B003EI2EKE/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1363782853&sr=8-2&keywords=family+properties)

Looks really depressing. 

I'm about halfway through, and yeah. Really depressing. Still extremely informative highly recommended to anyone.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Emo EMAW on June 10, 2013, 01:10:01 PM
For some reason I never read Call of the Wild.  Need something to read now.  Worth it?  Am I too old?
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: bubbles4ksu on June 10, 2013, 01:11:02 PM
For some reason I never read Call of the Wild.  Need something to read now.  Worth it?  Am I too old?

worth it. it's only 84 pages.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: ChiCat on June 10, 2013, 01:12:27 PM
For some reason I never read Call of the Wild.  Need something to read now.  Worth it?  Am I too old?

I enjoyed it in my mid 20s.  If you like "20 something wandering aimlessly because he doesn't know what his purpose is and can't stand working a 9-5" type books, then you'll like it fine.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: bubbles4ksu on June 10, 2013, 01:13:33 PM
For some reason I never read Call of the Wild.  Need something to read now.  Worth it?  Am I too old?

I enjoyed it in my mid 20s.  If you like "20 something wandering aimlessly because he doesn't know what his purpose is and can't stand working a 9-5" type books, then you'll like it fine.

are you thinking of Into the Wild?
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Emo EMAW on June 10, 2013, 01:24:50 PM
For some reason I never read Call of the Wild.  Need something to read now.  Worth it?  Am I too old?

worth it. it's only 84 pages.

Practically a short story, thanks.  :thumbs:
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: ChiCat on June 10, 2013, 01:31:25 PM
For some reason I never read Call of the Wild.  Need something to read now.  Worth it?  Am I too old?

I enjoyed it in my mid 20s.  If you like "20 something wandering aimlessly because he doesn't know what his purpose is and can't stand working a 9-5" type books, then you'll like it fine.

are you thinking of Into the Wild?

MAYBE!
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on June 10, 2013, 01:32:08 PM
Just started Pendulum.  The first chapter was probably the nerdiest I have ever read outside of a text book.

No hate, just an observation regarding his love affair with points that have no dimension or size and cannot move.

Hang in there, Casey. It's all worthwhile.

I read it a couple of months ago.  While not the worst thing I've read, I felt a little let down after the hype here.   Very plodding storyline.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on June 10, 2013, 01:33:32 PM
KState common book for next year's incoming fresmen is Ready Player One. Anyone read it?

very fun read
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Asteriskhead on June 10, 2013, 01:34:00 PM
I started "A Confederacy of Dunces" last night. So far, I enjoy it.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: felix rex on June 10, 2013, 01:34:27 PM
was Pendulum not worthwhile, Mikey?
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: libstradamus on June 10, 2013, 01:36:30 PM
http://www.amazon.com/Columbine-Dave-Cullen/dp/0446546925/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1370888830&sr=8-1&keywords=columbine

columbine, by dave cullen.  2/3rds though it.  VERY interesting.  i was basicly the same age as these kids when this happened, and high school me identifies a lot with dylan.  it's amazing how much misinformation about the event is still out there.  it's also super sad at parts, i've literally had to put it down 2-3 times because i was all  :cry: :bawl: :cry: (kinda embarrassing on a plane TBH).

the parts describing what their overall plan, and if they had any knowledge of fuse making at all were the most surprising to me, because i had never heard anything about it in the media.  the overall body count would have likely been three to four hundred if they had fused their bombs correctly.  pretty stunning.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on June 10, 2013, 01:39:47 PM
was Pendulum not worthwhile, Mikey?

I'm glad I read it, but man, some of those long passages from the diary got to be rough.   More than once I'd wake up and realize I fell asleep.   the first half and the last quarter wasn't as bad.   I did enjoy the book publisher games though.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on June 10, 2013, 01:41:43 PM
while I liked DaVinci Code, and even more so Angels & Demons, Inferno was a let down.     Much of the plot was too contrived for my tastes.  I know it's "summer reading" but it felt kind of phoned in\, even for Dan Brown.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on June 10, 2013, 01:43:09 PM
Anyone read Mr. Penumbra's 24 Hour Bookstore?
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Emo EMAW on June 10, 2013, 01:44:55 PM
Just started reading the Basque History of the World.

http://www.amazon.com/books/dp/0140298517

Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: CNS on June 10, 2013, 02:31:21 PM
Just started Pendulum.  The first chapter was probably the nerdiest I have ever read outside of a text book.

No hate, just an observation regarding his love affair with points that have no dimension or size and cannot move.

Hang in there, Casey. It's all worthwhile.

I read it a couple of months ago.  While not the worst thing I've read, I felt a little let down after the hype here.   Very plodding storyline.

I stopped and read something else, then just came back to it and finished about two weeks ago.  I read in very short amts of time(10-30pgs) then stop, and do this often.  I found it pretty hard to get through the middle third of the book, but really liked the end of the book.   I have three or four other books lined up right now but am planning to read Baudilino(SP) after that. 

Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: CNS on June 10, 2013, 02:32:59 PM
while I liked DaVinci Code, and even more so Angels & Demons, Inferno was a let down.     Much of the plot was too contrived for my tastes.  I know it's "summer reading" but it felt kind of phoned in\, even for Dan Brown.

Welp.  Bought this a week ago and planned on blowing it up next week. 

Hopefully the lowered expectations will help me enjoy it more.  That said, I really didn't like the last one he did. 
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Mr Bread on June 10, 2013, 03:01:10 PM
I started "A Confederacy of Dunces" last night. So far, I enjoy it.

Did you know the author killed himself at age 31 in large part because he couldn't get the book published?  He died in 1969 and it didn't get published until 1980 thanks to his mother's persistence. 
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: michigancat on June 10, 2013, 03:06:21 PM
I started "A Confederacy of Dunces" last night. So far, I enjoy it.

Did you know the author killed himself at age 31 in large part because he couldn't get the book published?  He died in 1969 and it didn't get published until 1980 thanks to his mother's persistence. 

I did. Also, great book.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Kat Kid on June 10, 2013, 03:22:16 PM
I just ordered:  http://www.amazon.com/Family-Properties-Exploitation-America-ebook/dp/B003EI2EKE/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1363782853&sr=8-2&keywords=family+properties (http://www.amazon.com/Family-Properties-Exploitation-America-ebook/dp/B003EI2EKE/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1363782853&sr=8-2&keywords=family+properties)

Looks really depressing. 

I'm about halfway through, and yeah. Really depressing. Still extremely informative highly recommended to anyone.

I am about the same spot and yeah.  It is incredible isn't it?
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: michigancat on June 10, 2013, 03:29:32 PM
I just ordered:  http://www.amazon.com/Family-Properties-Exploitation-America-ebook/dp/B003EI2EKE/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1363782853&sr=8-2&keywords=family+properties (http://www.amazon.com/Family-Properties-Exploitation-America-ebook/dp/B003EI2EKE/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1363782853&sr=8-2&keywords=family+properties)

Looks really depressing. 

I'm about halfway through, and yeah. Really depressing. Still extremely informative highly recommended to anyone.

I am about the same spot and yeah.  It is incredible isn't it?

yeah. I read it on Bart and with a heavy dose of of white guilt.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Kat Kid on June 10, 2013, 03:31:23 PM
I just ordered:  http://www.amazon.com/Family-Properties-Exploitation-America-ebook/dp/B003EI2EKE/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1363782853&sr=8-2&keywords=family+properties (http://www.amazon.com/Family-Properties-Exploitation-America-ebook/dp/B003EI2EKE/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1363782853&sr=8-2&keywords=family+properties)

Looks really depressing. 

I'm about halfway through, and yeah. Really depressing. Still extremely informative highly recommended to anyone.

I am about the same spot and yeah.  It is incredible isn't it?

yeah. I read it on Bart and with a heavy dose of of white guilt.

Haha.  I was going to read Democracy in America, but it is too long.  So I started on Plato's Republic.  It is great.  His first piece of advice is from an old man that says that the secret pleasure of getting old is that you stop trying to chase women because your penis no longer works.  Not what I expected.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Jabeez on June 10, 2013, 08:44:27 PM
I started "A Confederacy of Dunces" last night. So far, I enjoy it.

Did you know the author killed himself at age 31 in large part because he couldn't get the book published?  He died in 1969 and it didn't get published until 1980 thanks to his mother's persistence. 

I did. Also, great book.

Oh man, all the scenes with the flamboyantly gay Dorian guy, those were the best.   Funny book.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: chum1 on July 01, 2013, 11:08:21 PM
A Tree Grows in Brooklyn.  Jesus, what a masterpiece.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Kat Kid on July 02, 2013, 08:36:53 AM
Really interesting book by the British Museum:

A History of the World in 100 objects

Worth a flip through if not a read.  It isn't perfect (it is limited to items in the British Museum) but there are some really fascinating things in there and some really moving descriptions of some of the older items.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Asteriskhead on July 02, 2013, 09:27:04 AM
I started "A Confederacy of Dunces" last night. So far, I enjoy it.

Did you know the author killed himself at age 31 in large part because he couldn't get the book published?  He died in 1969 and it didn't get published until 1980 thanks to his mother's persistence.

I actually did know that!
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Chingon on July 02, 2013, 10:20:07 AM
Just finished The Magus.  I liked it a lot, I think I will get a lot more with a second reading.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: michigancat on July 02, 2013, 10:23:50 AM
I'm giving Infinite Jest a try. So far so good.

Also reading Inner Game of Tennis.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Dlew12 on July 02, 2013, 08:52:12 PM
You guys I'm about 80 pages into my 2nd attempt at A Tale of Two Cities. SO good. The first time I tried to read it I was 14 or 15. Too young I guess, because it's great.  :D

Oh man, if you like the first 80pgs, you will really love the last 100 or so.   :excited:
Did you finish it Mocat????

 :thumbs: :thumbs: :thumbs: :thumbs: :thumbs:
Title: book recommendations
Post by: felix rex on July 02, 2013, 11:13:11 PM
Really interesting book by the British Museum:

A History of the World in 100 objects

Worth a flip through if not a read.  It isn't perfect (it is limited to items in the British Museum) but there are some really fascinating things in there and some really moving descriptions of some of the older items.

This sounds great.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: michigancat on August 13, 2013, 12:30:58 AM
Infinite Jest is exhausting but spectacular. Possibly my favorite book so far, and I'm maybe halfway through it. IT TAKES A LOOOOOOOONG TIME TO READ.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Cire on August 13, 2013, 10:06:09 AM
Really interesting book by the British Museum:

A History of the World in 100 objects

Worth a flip through if not a read.  It isn't perfect (it is limited to items in the British Museum) but there are some really fascinating things in there and some really moving descriptions of some of the older items.

This sounds great.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: CNS on August 13, 2013, 10:21:08 AM
Infinite Jest is exhausting but spectacular. Possibly my favorite book so far, and I'm maybe halfway through it. IT TAKES A LOOOOOOOONG TIME TO READ.

Takes a long time to read because it is almost 1100 pages, or is it written in a way that doesn't read smoothly?

One is a book I would def read, the other is one I def wouldn't. 
Title: Re: Re: book recommendations
Post by: michigancat on August 13, 2013, 10:40:47 AM
Infinite Jest is exhausting but spectacular. Possibly my favorite book so far, and I'm maybe halfway through it. IT TAKES A LOOOOOOOONG TIME TO READ.

Takes a long time to read because it is almost 1100 pages, or is it written in a way that doesn't read smoothly?

One is a book I would def read, the other is one I def wouldn't.

A little of both. There are footnotes that you have to read, for example. There's like a 30 page explanation of how Boston AA works. But it's hilarious, and he created a vivid world with fantastic characters.

I'm borrowing it from the library, but I'm thinking of buying it and starting over. I didn't read the footnotes at first, and wish I had.
Title: Re: Re: book recommendations
Post by: steve dave on August 13, 2013, 10:46:50 AM
Infinite Jest is exhausting but spectacular. Possibly my favorite book so far, and I'm maybe halfway through it. IT TAKES A LOOOOOOOONG TIME TO READ.

Takes a long time to read because it is almost 1100 pages, or is it written in a way that doesn't read smoothly?

One is a book I would def read, the other is one I def wouldn't.

A little of both. There are footnotes that you have to read, for example. There's like a 30 page explanation of how Boston AA works. But it's hilarious, and he created a vivid world with fantastic characters.

I'm borrowing it from the library, but I'm thinking of buying it and starting over. I didn't read the footnotes at first, and wish I had.

watch out rusty  :frown:

Quote
Yet the nebulous, resolutionless ending serves to underscore Wallace's underlying failure to find a suitable novelistic shape for his ingenious and often outrageously funny material.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: michigancat on August 13, 2013, 10:50:05 AM
Infinite Jest is exhausting but spectacular. Possibly my favorite book so far, and I'm maybe halfway through it. IT TAKES A LOOOOOOOONG TIME TO READ.

Takes a long time to read because it is almost 1100 pages, or is it written in a way that doesn't read smoothly?

One is a book I would def read, the other is one I def wouldn't.

A little of both. There are footnotes that you have to read, for example. There's like a 30 page explanation of how Boston AA works. But it's hilarious, and he created a vivid world with fantastic characters.

I'm borrowing it from the library, but I'm thinking of buying it and starting over. I didn't read the footnotes at first, and wish I had.

watch out rusty  :frown:

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Yet the nebulous, resolutionless ending serves to underscore Wallace's underlying failure to find a suitable novelistic shape for his ingenious and often outrageously funny material.


I really don't care how it "ends". I mean, the first chapter is pretty much how it ends up. :dunno:
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: ben ji on August 13, 2013, 10:50:58 AM
Infinite Jest is exhausting but spectacular. Possibly my favorite book so far, and I'm maybe halfway through it. IT TAKES A LOOOOOOOONG TIME TO READ.

Skimmed the wikipedia page and it seems very similiar to "Jennifer Government" in regards to the themes of mega corporations. Jennifer Government kinda sucked though.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: michigancat on August 13, 2013, 10:53:55 AM
Infinite Jest is exhausting but spectacular. Possibly my favorite book so far, and I'm maybe halfway through it. IT TAKES A LOOOOOOOONG TIME TO READ.

Skimmed the wikipedia page and it seems very similiar to "Jennifer Government" in regards to the themes of mega corporations. Jennifer Government kinda sucked though.

corporations have very, very little to do with the plot about halfway through. The politics are a little slapstick and ridiculous, but I really don't mind. It's just how the book's world is.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on August 13, 2013, 10:55:23 AM
Infinite Jest is exhausting but spectacular. Possibly my favorite book so far, and I'm maybe halfway through it. IT TAKES A LOOOOOOOONG TIME TO READ.

Takes a long time to read because it is almost 1100 pages, or is it written in a way that doesn't read smoothly?

One is a book I would def read, the other is one I def wouldn't.

A little of both. There are footnotes that you have to read, for example. There's like a 30 page explanation of how Boston AA works. But it's hilarious, and he created a vivid world with fantastic characters.

I'm borrowing it from the library, but I'm thinking of buying it and starting over. I didn't read the footnotes at first, and wish I had.

watch out rusty  :frown:

Quote
Yet the nebulous, resolutionless ending serves to underscore Wallace's underlying failure to find a suitable novelistic shape for his ingenious and often outrageously funny material.


I really don't care how it "ends". I mean, the first chapter is pretty much how it ends up. :dunno:

do they have 29 hour days in almeda? how in gods name do you have the time to do all the stuff you do? drugs?
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: michigancat on August 13, 2013, 10:56:55 AM
Infinite Jest is exhausting but spectacular. Possibly my favorite book so far, and I'm maybe halfway through it. IT TAKES A LOOOOOOOONG TIME TO READ.

Takes a long time to read because it is almost 1100 pages, or is it written in a way that doesn't read smoothly?

One is a book I would def read, the other is one I def wouldn't.

A little of both. There are footnotes that you have to read, for example. There's like a 30 page explanation of how Boston AA works. But it's hilarious, and he created a vivid world with fantastic characters.

I'm borrowing it from the library, but I'm thinking of buying it and starting over. I didn't read the footnotes at first, and wish I had.

watch out rusty  :frown:

Quote
Yet the nebulous, resolutionless ending serves to underscore Wallace's underlying failure to find a suitable novelistic shape for his ingenious and often outrageously funny material.


I really don't care how it "ends". I mean, the first chapter is pretty much how it ends up. :dunno:

do they have 29 hour days in almeda? how in gods name do you have the time to do all the stuff you do? drugs?

I've read like 400 pages in 6 weeks. :dunno:

(you can tell from the dates and pace that the beginning of the book is the end)
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on August 13, 2013, 10:58:24 AM
Infinite Jest is exhausting but spectacular. Possibly my favorite book so far, and I'm maybe halfway through it. IT TAKES A LOOOOOOOONG TIME TO READ.

Takes a long time to read because it is almost 1100 pages, or is it written in a way that doesn't read smoothly?

One is a book I would def read, the other is one I def wouldn't.

A little of both. There are footnotes that you have to read, for example. There's like a 30 page explanation of how Boston AA works. But it's hilarious, and he created a vivid world with fantastic characters.

I'm borrowing it from the library, but I'm thinking of buying it and starting over. I didn't read the footnotes at first, and wish I had.

watch out rusty  :frown:

Quote
Yet the nebulous, resolutionless ending serves to underscore Wallace's underlying failure to find a suitable novelistic shape for his ingenious and often outrageously funny material.


I really don't care how it "ends". I mean, the first chapter is pretty much how it ends up. :dunno:

do they have 29 hour days in almeda? how in gods name do you have the time to do all the stuff you do? drugs?

I've read like 400 pages in 6 weeks. :dunno:

(you can tell from the dates and pace that the beginning of the book is the end)

so not drugs? seems like maybe drugs.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Emo EMAW on August 13, 2013, 11:02:48 AM
It's pretty clear, no other hobbies or anything else to do.
Title: book recommendations
Post by: felix rex on August 13, 2013, 11:24:58 AM
He multitasks during his beard growing time.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: michigancat on August 13, 2013, 11:59:34 AM
I started reading on the train this year. It's about 30 minutes a day. Sometimes I'll read during my lunch break. Also lots of drugs
Title: book recommendations
Post by: felix rex on August 13, 2013, 01:05:31 PM
I read Pendulum when I was still able to take the metro to work. I miss reading on trains.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: ben ji on August 13, 2013, 01:08:22 PM
Just started reading "The Stand" by Steven King...got the expanded version that is like 1200 pages  :surprised:
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Emo EMAW on August 13, 2013, 01:11:16 PM
I've been reading the book by that Navy SEAL sniper that got killed at the shooting range.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: CNS on August 14, 2013, 07:52:29 PM
Just finished World War Z

I liked it much more than I thought I would given the format.  Would def recommend.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: ew2x4 on August 14, 2013, 08:37:20 PM
Listened to WWZ on the way back to KS for a holiday. Not bad, but I didn't like it as much as others did.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: CNS on August 19, 2013, 05:15:40 PM
Infinite Jest is exhausting but spectacular. Possibly my favorite book so far, and I'm maybe halfway through it. IT TAKES A LOOOOOOOONG TIME TO READ.

Takes a long time to read because it is almost 1100 pages, or is it written in a way that doesn't read smoothly?

One is a book I would def read, the other is one I def wouldn't.

A little of both. There are footnotes that you have to read, for example. There's like a 30 page explanation of how Boston AA works. But it's hilarious, and he created a vivid world with fantastic characters.

I'm borrowing it from the library, but I'm thinking of buying it and starting over. I didn't read the footnotes at first, and wish I had.

watch out rusty  :frown:

Quote
Yet the nebulous, resolutionless ending serves to underscore Wallace's underlying failure to find a suitable novelistic shape for his ingenious and often outrageously funny material.


I really don't care how it "ends". I mean, the first chapter is pretty much how it ends up. :dunno:

Trying this one now.  Three chapters in and I am intrigued.  Especially by Hal.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: michigancat on August 19, 2013, 06:02:14 PM
Hal's definitely the main character. I finally broke down and bought it and am going to start over. Make sure you read the footnotes.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: ew2x4 on August 19, 2013, 06:03:41 PM
I'm about half way through Wool Omnibus. I'm really into it. The first "book" really got to me.
Title: Re: Re: book recommendations
Post by: michigancat on August 19, 2013, 06:08:42 PM
I'm about half way through Wool Omnibus. I'm really into it. The first "book" really got to me.

I actually just read this last week. Pretty good story, but sometimes his descriptions of details is a little thesaurus-y and over the top. And we get it, they're climbing lots of stairs, thanks author guy.
Title: Re: Re: Re: book recommendations
Post by: ew2x4 on August 20, 2013, 12:03:45 AM
I'm about half way through Wool Omnibus. I'm really into it. The first "book" really got to me.

I actually just read this last week. Pretty good story, but sometimes his descriptions of details is a little thesaurus-y and over the top. And we get it, they're climbing lots of stairs, thanks author guy.

I just got done with all the stairs. What was that guy thinking? Besides that, the author is great with characters. Agree with the details though.

Are you going to read the two sequels?

Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: CNS on September 16, 2013, 12:46:30 PM
Infinite Jest.  I like it, but just can't do it right now.

The review on Amazon says that this book isn't for someone who can't devote continued amts of time to it.  That is the truth.  I don't touch it for days, then pick it up and JFC, what was happening again?  I am going to back burner this one until I can own it on a trip or something.

Starting The Son now.  will report back. It follows multiple gens of one family through time in Texas from settling it to now.  Sounds lame saying it like that, but it has pretty dece reviews.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: ben ji on September 16, 2013, 01:10:09 PM
Anyone here read the bible? Looking for a good fiction read and I've got my Gma's old one laying around.

Which chapters have the best stories? Can I skip around or does it all kinda go in order?

Thanks, I'll listen off air.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on September 16, 2013, 03:08:23 PM
Confederacy of Dunces - interesting book and interesting story about the author.   Poor bastard.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: michigancat on September 16, 2013, 03:13:04 PM
Infinite Jest.  I like it, but just can't do it right now.

The review on Amazon says that this book isn't for someone who can't devote continued amts of time to it.  That is the truth.  I don't touch it for days, then pick it up and JFC, what was happening again?  I am going to back burner this one until I can own it on a trip or something.

Starting The Son now.  will report back. It follows multiple gens of one family through time in Texas from settling it to now.  Sounds lame saying it like that, but it has pretty dece reviews.

How far did you get?

Personally, I need to be able to put it down from time to time. I can't just sit down and read it for 2 hours. I can maybe read it for 30-45 minutes  before I have to do something else.

The reread is interesting, I'm picking up a lot of foretelling and info I missed the first time through.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on September 16, 2013, 03:19:04 PM
just finished Lee Child- One Shot (book the movie Jack Reacher is based off)- very good book. will read more Reacher novels.

also about 50 pages into Grisham- The Racketeer. pretty good so far...
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: CNS on September 16, 2013, 03:19:15 PM
Infinite Jest.  I like it, but just can't do it right now.

The review on Amazon says that this book isn't for someone who can't devote continued amts of time to it.  That is the truth.  I don't touch it for days, then pick it up and JFC, what was happening again?  I am going to back burner this one until I can own it on a trip or something.

Starting The Son now.  will report back. It follows multiple gens of one family through time in Texas from settling it to now.  Sounds lame saying it like that, but it has pretty dece reviews.

How far did you get?

Personally, I need to be able to put it down from time to time. I can't just sit down and read it for 2 hours. I can maybe read it for 30-45 minutes  before I have to do something else.

The reread is interesting, I'm picking up a lot of foretelling and info I missed the first time through.

Only like 60 pages or so.  Just started it at a bad time when I had a bunch of other stuff going.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on September 16, 2013, 03:26:17 PM
just finished Lee Child- One Shot (book the movie Jack Reacher is based off)- very good book. will read more Reacher novels.

also about 50 pages into Grisham- The Racketeer. pretty good so far...

Michael Connelly is also a good author in the vein of Lee Child.

Also, the Straw Men books by Michael Marshall are good reads.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on September 16, 2013, 03:27:50 PM
Also read American Sniper by Chris Kyle.    Always interesting to get inside the head of those in combat.   While not high literature it was a good airport read.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on September 16, 2013, 03:28:35 PM
good scoop, mike. will do. :thumbs:
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on September 16, 2013, 03:30:00 PM
oh, the Prey books by John Sanford are also decent crime novels, though I like Lee Child and Connelly better.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: ben ji on October 02, 2013, 09:16:52 AM
Almost done with The Revenge of Geography: What the Map Tells Us About Coming Conflicts and the Battle Against Fate.

Really good book if you are into history and geopolitics.

Also started Superfusion: How China and America Became One Economy and Why the World's Prosperity Depends on It.

Was written by a hedge fund manager who ran a China-US growth fund.

I bet you've either already read The Prize (Yergin) or would really enjoy it.

Have not read it, just ordered it off amazon.

 :thumbs:

Started reading it 2 nights ago and am about 100 pages in. REALLY ENJOY IT SO FAR!

Really enjoyed "The Prize" and just started on his follow up "The Quest"

(http://img1.imagesbn.com/p/9781101523582_p0_v1_s260x420.JPG)

2 chapters in and LOVING IT.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Fedor on October 02, 2013, 09:44:36 AM
Has anyone else read the "Engineers Trilogy" by K.J. Parker?  The series starts with Devices and Desires, I thought it was great but apparently the author is too technical in descriptions siege equipment for some...
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 02, 2013, 10:25:26 AM
Has anyone else read the "Engineers Trilogy" by K.J. Parker?  The series starts with Devices and Desires, I thought it was great but apparently the author is too technical in descriptions siege equipment for some...

I read the first half of that book a few years ago. Then I moved, and when I unpacked could never find the book. I enjoyed what I read and might get the kindle version.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: CNS on October 02, 2013, 10:33:47 AM
Started reading Sleep Doctor this week. It is the sequel to The Shining. About a quarter of the way in and it is a fast read.  It has potential, but S hasn't gotten real yet, so we will see. 
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Fedor on October 02, 2013, 10:35:20 AM
Has anyone else read the "Engineers Trilogy" by K.J. Parker?  The series starts with Devices and Desires, I thought it was great but apparently the author is too technical in descriptions siege equipment for some...

I read the first half of that book a few years ago. Then I moved, and when I unpacked could never find the book. I enjoyed what I read and might get the kindle version.
Finish it out!  The full story arc is amazing to contemplate at the end of the series.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Chingon on October 02, 2013, 11:11:01 AM
Read 2666, whew that was an experience.  Pretty great imo, the scope was so huge.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on October 03, 2013, 12:17:07 PM
Has anyone else read the "Engineers Trilogy" by K.J. Parker?  The series starts with Devices and Desires, I thought it was great but apparently the author is too technical in descriptions siege equipment for some...

Sounds like it might be good and all the books in the series are out. (I have way too many series that I've started and now have to wait for more books.)

So I tried to see if the library had this book. No, they just have this one:
"Devices and desires : a history of contraceptives in America"
http://books.google.com/books/about/Devices_and_Desires.html?id=Im8RdEyDX8cC
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 03, 2013, 01:25:16 PM
Has anyone else read the "Engineers Trilogy" by K.J. Parker?  The series starts with Devices and Desires, I thought it was great but apparently the author is too technical in descriptions siege equipment for some...

Sounds like it might be good and all the books in the series are out. (I have way too many series that I've started and now have to wait for more books.)

So I tried to see if the library had this book. No, they just have this one:
"Devices and desires : a history of contraceptives in America"
http://books.google.com/books/about/Devices_and_Desires.html?id=Im8RdEyDX8cC

Well, was it a good read or not?
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: CNS on October 14, 2013, 03:10:37 PM
Started reading Sleep Doctor this week. It is the sequel to The Shining. About a quarter of the way in and it is a fast read.  It has potential, but S hasn't gotten real yet, so we will see.

so King is basically just collecting checks nowadays.  I mean, I am not done with this yet, but I am like 75% through it and it isn't bad, it just isn't anything.  It reads quick when you have the time, but I didn't' touch this for quite some time and didn't really miss it.    Overall, so far, it's a mild meh.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: michigancat on October 14, 2013, 03:15:04 PM
Did some un-thinkable and AMAZING things during his life.

http://www.amazon.com/Blood-Thunder-Carson-Conquest-American/dp/1400031109 (http://www.amazon.com/Blood-Thunder-Carson-Conquest-American/dp/1400031109)

Didn't I already post this one?  Good read for sure.  On the drive to Phoenix I told the entire RV the story of Kit Carson.  Showed them Mt Taylor on the drive by, etc.

finally reading this, it's pretty great. I've been to Fremont Peak before. Man, what a jackass that guy was.

Also Kit Carson holy crap what a stud.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Emo EMAW on October 14, 2013, 05:23:53 PM
The guys walks through the rough ridin' cactus riddled desert with no shoes.  Stud confirmed.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: puniraptor on November 06, 2013, 07:37:52 AM
i was googling to find out what a buffalito was and i found this book that i now have to read

http://www.amazon.com/Buffalito-Destiny-Adventures-Amazing-Conroy-ebook/dp/B00ATJJISM/ref=tmm_kin_title_0?ie=UTF8&qid=1383744831&sr=1-9 (http://www.amazon.com/Buffalito-Destiny-Adventures-Amazing-Conroy-ebook/dp/B00ATJJISM/ref=tmm_kin_title_0?ie=UTF8&qid=1383744831&sr=1-9)

Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Asteriskhead on November 07, 2013, 11:58:11 AM
I'm reading Steven Pressfield's The War of Art currently. It's basically his self-help book for aspiring artist, so I don't know why I'm reading it, but it is interesting.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on November 07, 2013, 12:04:58 PM
Started reading Sleep Doctor this week. It is the sequel to The Shining. About a quarter of the way in and it is a fast read.  It has potential, but S hasn't gotten real yet, so we will see.

so King is basically just collecting checks nowadays.  I mean, I am not done with this yet, but I am like 75% through it and it isn't bad, it just isn't anything.  It reads quick when you have the time, but I didn't' touch this for quite some time and didn't really miss it.    Overall, so far, it's a mild meh.

yeah, I had similar feelings.   Interesting concept, but to be honest I was never a huge fan of the Shining either.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on November 07, 2013, 12:06:16 PM
Reading Night Film.   Interesting so far, and I must say the production of the book (paper, graphics, etc.) is top notch, almost textbookish.

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/10112885-night-film
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: CNS on November 07, 2013, 12:11:49 PM
Reading Sycamore Row, John Grissham(sp?)'s new one.  Same cast as Time To Kill, but different sitch.  About 1/3rd of the way in and it is ok.  Never been a huge fan of JG, but really like Time To Kill. 

I think I am going to give El Narco or Over The Edge of The World a shot next. 
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: raquetcat on November 07, 2013, 01:04:52 PM
I just finished reading There are no children here, it's older, but good. A true story about 2 brothers growing up in the projects of Chicago in the 1980's, really makes me wonder if I could have made it, had I grown up in that type of situation and the whole nature/ nurture thing.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Mr Bread on November 07, 2013, 01:05:41 PM
I'm reading Steven Pressfield's The War of Art currently. It's basically his self-help book for aspiring artist, so I don't know why I'm reading it, but it is interesting.

Have you read any of his other stuff other than Gates of Fire?  If so, what and would recommend?
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Asteriskhead on November 07, 2013, 02:30:54 PM
I'm reading Steven Pressfield's The War of Art currently. It's basically his self-help book for aspiring artist, so I don't know why I'm reading it, but it is interesting.

Have you read any of his other stuff other than Gates of Fire?  If so, what and would recommend?

I have not read any of his other work. The Legend of Bagger Vance, Gates of Fire and The Virtues of War are all on my reading list. I'm planning on picking one to read over winter break when I don't have any required reading for school.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on November 07, 2013, 02:39:30 PM
does anyone read the Alex Cross- Patterson series? picked up one a few weeks ago at the airport and cant get into it. also isnt that the movie that like ice cub acted in??
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on November 07, 2013, 02:40:00 PM
does anyone read the Alex Cross- Patterson series? picked up one a few weeks ago at the airport and cant get into it. also isnt that the movie that like ice cub acted in??

whoops, tyler perry.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Tobias on November 07, 2013, 03:58:05 PM
does anyone read the Alex Cross- Patterson series? picked up one a few weeks ago at the airport and cant get into it. also isnt that the movie that like ice cub acted in??

whoops, tyler perry.

:lol:
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: libstradamus on November 07, 2013, 04:03:05 PM
i just watched kiss the girls and along came a spider this week.

never read any of the books tho  ;)
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Mr Bread on November 07, 2013, 04:51:36 PM
I'm reading Steven Pressfield's The War of Art currently. It's basically his self-help book for aspiring artist, so I don't know why I'm reading it, but it is interesting.

Have you read any of his other stuff other than Gates of Fire?  If so, what and would recommend?

I have not read any of his other work. The Legend of Bagger Vance, Gates of Fire and The Virtues of War are all on my reading list. I'm planning on picking one to read over winter break when I don't have any required reading for school.

I would suggest stop reading the self-help one right now and immediately begin reading Gates of Fire instead.  Very enjoyable. 
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Chingon on November 07, 2013, 05:40:21 PM
MadAddam trilogy?  Not very good...
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: steve dave on November 07, 2013, 06:23:28 PM

MadAddam trilogy?  Not very good...

Damnit. Just started.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Pete on November 07, 2013, 06:31:52 PM
Just started "The Name of the Wind." Really cool so far.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: michigancat on November 07, 2013, 06:32:29 PM
I'm reading "Particle at the end of the Universe" now. It's difficult to follow at times.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: KCFDcat on November 07, 2013, 07:09:17 PM
maybe luked but anyone read The Book Thief? Fantastic.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Emo EMAW on December 02, 2013, 04:17:13 PM
Anyone read Malcolm Gladwell's "David and Goliath" ?
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: CNS on December 02, 2013, 04:24:01 PM
Just starting The Three Musketeers.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: michigancat on December 02, 2013, 04:29:56 PM
Infinite Jest is so good. I've reread the first half and am back in new territory.

Thinking Fast and Slow is also pretty good. They cited a paper saying there is no such thing as a hot streak in basketball - what we perceive as streaks are statistically random.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: 8manpick on December 03, 2013, 03:59:33 PM
Reading "Touching the Void" by Joe Simpson.  Saw the movie based on this a few years ago, but the the book definitely has me by the balls and/or vag.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: jmlynch1 on December 03, 2013, 04:07:25 PM
Infinite Jest is so good. I've reread the first half and am back in new territory.

Thinking Fast and Slow is also pretty good. They cited a paper saying there is no such thing as a hot streak in basketball - what we perceive as streaks are statistically random.
I think I am going to try and read Infinite Jest this Winter.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: bubbles4ksu on December 03, 2013, 04:07:41 PM
Anyone read Malcolm Gladwell's "David and Goliath" ?
it's just ok. i read "blink" first and his other books have been kinda disappointing. you'll learn some interesting stuff that's fun to talk about over beers.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: michigancat on December 03, 2013, 04:21:48 PM
Infinite Jest is so good. I've reread the first half and am back in new territory.

Thinking Fast and Slow is also pretty good. They cited a paper saying there is no such thing as a hot streak in basketball - what we perceive as streaks are statistically random.
I think I am going to try and read Infinite Jest this Winter.

Do you have a kindle? I wish I had it on a kindle because of the endnotes. Of course I have three bookmarks so it isn't too bad.

Slightly OT - should I get a kindle? I like the library because I'm cheap, but it's hard to take books like Infinite Jest with me everywhere.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: jmlynch1 on December 03, 2013, 04:23:58 PM
Infinite Jest is so good. I've reread the first half and am back in new territory.

Thinking Fast and Slow is also pretty good. They cited a paper saying there is no such thing as a hot streak in basketball - what we perceive as streaks are statistically random.
I think I am going to try and read Infinite Jest this Winter.

Do you have a kindle? I wish I had it on a kindle because of the endnotes. Of course I have three bookmarks so it isn't too bad.

Slightly OT - should I get a kindle? I like the library because I'm cheap, but it's hard to take books like Infinite Jest with me everywhere.
Yes I do. You can rent books through most libraries with a kindle as well. If you are going to be carrying your Kindle around with you a lot be prepared for it to  break one day.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: michigancat on December 03, 2013, 04:30:56 PM
If you are going to be carrying your Kindle around with you a lot be prepared for it to  break one day.

well that's kind of a rough ridin' conundrum now isn't it
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: CNS on December 03, 2013, 04:31:17 PM
Infinite Jest is so good. I've reread the first half and am back in new territory.

Thinking Fast and Slow is also pretty good. They cited a paper saying there is no such thing as a hot streak in basketball - what we perceive as streaks are statistically random.
I think I am going to try and read Infinite Jest this Winter.

Do you have a kindle? I wish I had it on a kindle because of the end notes. Of course I have three bookmarks so it isn't too bad.

Slightly OT - should I get a kindle? I like the library because I'm cheap, but it's hard to take books like Infinite Jest with me everywhere.

So, here is the one kindle flaw.  I have the HD Fire as well as an old school original.  Both of them sync to the Amazon cloud acct.  My smart phone does as well.  The way all the devices you use to read any one book sync to the cloud is by reporting what the furthest point you have read to is.  So, when you tap the end note number, it takes you to the back of the book where the end notes are.  So, then you sync, and boom, Amazon cloud syncs as if you have read the entire book back to whatever that end note was making it a huge pain to pick up the smart phone and read when you find a chance.  Also, usually, when you click the end note, you can read it and hit the back button to go back to where you were in the story.  However, often, the back button backs you out of the book all together and not back to the correct place in the story.

Then, guess what, you open the book back up again, and it acts like you have read they whole damn thing and takes you to the middle of the end notes.  You end up having to remember what page or "location" you end at every time you stop reading then tell the next device you happen to pick the book back up on what page or location to go to. 

Not a huge deal, just a little bit of a pain in the ass.  Especially on big books.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: CNS on December 03, 2013, 04:32:36 PM
If you are going to be carrying your Kindle around with you a lot be prepared for it to  break one day.

well that's kind of a rough ridin' conundrum now isn't it

In the last two yrs, I have read probably close to a third of every book I have read during that time period on my amazon app on my phone while waiting for something(kids soccer practice, customers to show up for meetings, oil changes, etc). 
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: jmlynch1 on December 03, 2013, 04:48:58 PM
If you are going to be carrying your Kindle around with you a lot be prepared for it to  break one day.

well that's kind of a rough ridin' conundrum now isn't it
I should add that I use the original and don't have a case or anything. They are shockingly small (or at least seemed that way when I got it like 5 years ago.)
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: CNS on December 03, 2013, 04:52:02 PM
If you are going to be carrying your Kindle around with you a lot be prepared for it to  break one day.

well that's kind of a rough ridin' conundrum now isn't it
I should add that I use the original and don't have a case or anything. They are shockingly small (or at least seemed that way when I got it like 5 years ago.)

I have a case that has a built in reading light for my original.  I still prefer using it when I know I will be reading and not bbs'n and reading.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Brock Landers on December 03, 2013, 05:01:34 PM
Reading "Touching the Void" by Joe Simpson.  Saw the movie based on this a few years ago, but the the book definitely has me by the balls and/or vag.


I have read the book but not yet seen the movie   :D    I'm glad there was a glossary of all the mountain climbing terms used.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: 8manpick on December 03, 2013, 05:05:41 PM
Reading "Touching the Void" by Joe Simpson.  Saw the movie based on this a few years ago, but the the book definitely has me by the balls and/or vag.


I have read the book but not yet seen the movie   :D    I'm glad there was a glossary of all the mountain climbing terms used.

Should have just taken GEOG 600 (best class at KSU? Maybe) with Dr. Kevin Blake and you would have known most of them already! :D
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: 8manpick on December 03, 2013, 05:07:33 PM
Anyone read Malcolm Gladwell's "David and Goliath" ?
it's just ok. i read "blink" first and his other books have been kinda disappointing. you'll learn some interesting stuff that's fun to talk about over beers.
Hmm. I really liked Tipping Point and Outliers a lot too. Haven't read D&G though.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: steve dave on December 03, 2013, 06:54:00 PM
I have a new paper white because my OG kindle got smashed in my suitcase and the screen wigged out. I've read online that amazon will replace your kindle for almost any reason though so I'm going to give that a whirl to have a spare. The paper white is amazing, tho.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on December 03, 2013, 07:15:51 PM
Reading "Touching the Void" by Joe Simpson.  Saw the movie based on this a few years ago, but the the book definitely has me by the balls and/or vag.

Good book.   Also like the John Krakauer books.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: michigancat on December 03, 2013, 07:28:03 PM
I have a new paper white because my OG kindle got smashed in my suitcase and the screen wigged out. I've read online that amazon will replace your kindle for almost any reason though so I'm going to give that a whirl to have a spare. The paper white is amazing, tho.

the paperwhite is a big upgrade over the regular kindle?
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Chingon on December 03, 2013, 07:51:38 PM
I have a new paper white because my OG kindle got smashed in my suitcase and the screen wigged out. I've read online that amazon will replace your kindle for almost any reason though so I'm going to give that a whirl to have a spare. The paper white is amazing, tho.

the paperwhite is a big upgrade over the regular kindle?
It's pretty great. 
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: steve dave on December 04, 2013, 08:44:48 AM
I have a new paper white because my OG kindle got smashed in my suitcase and the screen wigged out. I've read online that amazon will replace your kindle for almost any reason though so I'm going to give that a whirl to have a spare. The paper white is amazing, tho.

the paperwhite is a big upgrade over the regular kindle?

yes, it's worth it imo. the built in lighting is uniform and very easy on the eyes. no glare. no need for a lamp at night. very responsive touch screen. only thing I had to get used to is not touching the screen while reading. I had become used to doing this with my old kindle. but, it was only bothersome for a week or so.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: michigancat on December 04, 2013, 09:19:19 AM
A paperwhite is now on my Christmas wish list.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: big e z on December 05, 2013, 11:52:05 AM
For those that enjoyed the Reacher novels (Lee Child) and Harry Bosch series (Michael Connelly), try John Sandford, both the Lucas Davenport series and the Virgil Flowers books. Also liked David Baldacci Camel Club series and King and Maxwell books. Just started in on Harlan Coben. Read the Myron Bolitar books, thought they were OK.
Another light read that's pretty good is Kevin Hearne's Iron Druid Chronicles.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: michigancat on December 05, 2013, 11:55:24 AM
For those that enjoyed the Reacher novels (Lee Child) and Harry Bosch series (Michael Connelly), try John Sandford, both the Lucas Davenport series and the Virgil Flowers books. Also liked David Baldacci Camel Club series and King and Maxwell books. Just started in on Harlan Coben. Read the Myron Bolitar books, thought they were OK.
Another light read that's pretty good is Kevin Hearne's Iron Druid Chronicles.

I have not heard of any of that
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: big e z on December 05, 2013, 12:24:32 PM
Yeah, they are definitely more light and low-brow than the "classics" people were talking about earlier in the thread. I thought I'd bring them up since lee childs and michael connelly were mentioned on page 22
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Lucas Scoopsalot on December 05, 2013, 01:47:00 PM
I have a Nook HD + and it's an ok tablet. I don't ever use it unless I feel like reading a book on it. I use my smartphone for everything else mobile.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: jmlynch1 on December 09, 2013, 03:54:20 PM
Kindle sale today on amazon. :whistle1:
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: 'taterblast on December 09, 2013, 03:56:29 PM
Anyone read Malcolm Gladwell's "David and Goliath" ?
it's just ok. i read "blink" first and his other books have been kinda disappointing. you'll learn some interesting stuff that's fun to talk about over beers.

just started d&g. seemed interesting.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Pete on December 09, 2013, 10:26:47 PM
Almost done with The Name of the Wind.  I like it.   It's in the fantasy genre.  I've been really headlong down this path since reading the Game of Thrones series a few years ago.  It's strangely satisfying.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Cire on December 10, 2013, 09:02:26 AM
picked up foucaults  pendulum
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Mr Bread on December 10, 2013, 09:32:58 AM
Almost done with The Name of the Wind.  I like it.   It's in the fantasy genre.  I've been really headlong down this path since reading the Game of Thrones series a few years ago.  It's strangely satisfying.

I'm really into it too Pete.  I am currently reading American Gods.  It's okay.  You should really, really read Joe Abercrombie's First Law books.  They are legitimately outstanding, particularly if you like GoTs.  The initial trilogy is great (you have to start here), but the best imo is The Heroes.  eff that is a great read.  You'll burn right through them and then be all sad that there aren't more.  Do it!
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: CNS on December 10, 2013, 10:23:41 AM
Almost done with The Name of the Wind.  I like it.   It's in the fantasy genre.  I've been really headlong down this path since reading the Game of Thrones series a few years ago.  It's strangely satisfying.

I'm really into it too Pete.  I am currently reading American Gods.  It's okay.  You should really, really read Joe Abercrombie's First Law books.  They are legitimately outstanding, particularly if you like GoTs.  The initial trilogy is great (you have to start here), but the best imo is The Heroes.  eff that is a great read.  You'll burn right through them and then be all sad that there aren't more.  Do it!

I bought the first Abercrombie a couple weeks ago.  May try it next.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Pete on December 10, 2013, 10:26:13 AM

Almost done with The Name of the Wind.  I like it.   It's in the fantasy genre.  I've been really headlong down this path since reading the Game of Thrones series a few years ago.  It's strangely satisfying.

I'm really into it too Pete.  I am currently reading American Gods.  It's okay.  You should really, really read Joe Abercrombie's First Law books.  They are legitimately outstanding, particularly if you like GoTs.  The initial trilogy is great (you have to start here), but the best imo is The Heroes.  eff that is a great read.  You'll burn right through them and then be all sad that there aren't more.  Do it!

I will definitely read them, thanks!

I have also recently read the Brandon Sanderson "Mistborn" trilogy, and the Brent Weeks "Night Angel" trilogy.  They were both enjoyable, but cannot hold a candle to GoTs. Night Angle is a bit better if you like more physical action, and Mistborn is better if you like creative and novel magical theories.

Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Mr Bread on December 10, 2013, 10:57:30 AM
Almost done with The Name of the Wind.  I like it.   It's in the fantasy genre.  I've been really headlong down this path since reading the Game of Thrones series a few years ago.  It's strangely satisfying.

I'm really into it too Pete.  I am currently reading American Gods.  It's okay.  You should really, really read Joe Abercrombie's First Law books.  They are legitimately outstanding, particularly if you like GoTs.  The initial trilogy is great (you have to start here), but the best imo is The Heroes.  eff that is a great read.  You'll burn right through them and then be all sad that there aren't more.  Do it!

I bought the first Abercrombie a couple weeks ago.  May try it next.

CNS do yourself a giant-sized favor and dig the eff in.  They're great, friend!
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: CNS on December 10, 2013, 11:00:47 AM
Bread, will do.  I bought it based off of this thread and your earlier mention. 

Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Mr Bread on December 10, 2013, 11:04:49 AM

Almost done with The Name of the Wind.  I like it.   It's in the fantasy genre.  I've been really headlong down this path since reading the Game of Thrones series a few years ago.  It's strangely satisfying.

I'm really into it too Pete.  I am currently reading American Gods.  It's okay.  You should really, really read Joe Abercrombie's First Law books.  They are legitimately outstanding, particularly if you like GoTs.  The initial trilogy is great (you have to start here), but the best imo is The Heroes.  eff that is a great read.  You'll burn right through them and then be all sad that there aren't more.  Do it!

I will definitely read them, thanks!

I have also recently read the Brandon Sanderson "Mistborn" trilogy, and the Brent Weeks "Night Angel" trilogy.  They were both enjoyable, but cannot hold a candle to GoTs. Night Angle is a bit better if you like more physical action, and Mistborn is better if you like creative and novel magical theories.

At first you won't really be impressed, but then when you start to see how well he writes personalities and dialogue/inner monologue, you'll be all "Oh man, excellent! :excited:"  There is also violence and complex political intrigue/scheming just like GoT, plus magic type stuff.  The violence is better described, more vivid than GRRM does it.  Dark adult stuff for sure.  I'm excited for you.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Mr Bread on December 10, 2013, 11:06:08 AM
Bread, will do.  I bought it based off of this thread and your earlier mention.

It's really easy to get invested in his characters if you stick with it a bit. 
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: michigancat on December 10, 2013, 11:06:50 AM

Almost done with The Name of the Wind.  I like it.   It's in the fantasy genre.  I've been really headlong down this path since reading the Game of Thrones series a few years ago.  It's strangely satisfying.

I'm really into it too Pete.  I am currently reading American Gods.  It's okay.  You should really, really read Joe Abercrombie's First Law books.  They are legitimately outstanding, particularly if you like GoTs.  The initial trilogy is great (you have to start here), but the best imo is The Heroes.  eff that is a great read.  You'll burn right through them and then be all sad that there aren't more.  Do it!

I will definitely read them, thanks!

I have also recently read the Brandon Sanderson "Mistborn" trilogy, and the Brent Weeks "Night Angel" trilogy.  They were both enjoyable, but cannot hold a candle to GoTs. Night Angle is a bit better if you like more physical action, and Mistborn is better if you like creative and novel magical theories.

At first you won't really be impressed, but then when you start to see how well he writes personalities and dialogue/inner monologue, you'll be all "Oh man, excellent! :excited:"  There is also violence and complex political intrigue/scheming just like GoT, plus magic type stuff.  The violence is better described, more vivid than GRRM does it.  Dark adult stuff for sure.  I'm excited for you.

adorbs :D
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Pete on December 10, 2013, 11:55:34 AM
Man, I just started the Patrick Rothfuss "Name of the Wind" trilogy, and am contemplating putting it down on moving on to the Abercrombie stuff.   That's not really my style, though.  I like to pound through the entire series before I move on to another one.   This is a pickle.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Mr Bread on December 10, 2013, 12:20:41 PM
Man, I just started the Patrick Rothfuss "Name of the Wind" trilogy, and am contemplating putting it down on moving on to the Abercrombie stuff.   That's not really my style, though.  I like to pound through the entire series before I move on to another one.   This is a pickle.

The internet tells me he hasn't finished writing the third book and won't even say when it will be out. :dunno:

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When will book 3 be out?

Rest assured, as I promised for book 2, when there is news about book 3, I will pass it along.  I don’t glean joy from withholding information; when there’s news, I’ll tell you.   

Coast is clear.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on December 10, 2013, 12:30:57 PM
didn't know there were so many grown men into fantasy books.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: pvegs on December 10, 2013, 12:33:12 PM
My recs for '13:

Memoir
Son of a Gun - Justin St. Germain (fmr Stegner Fellow, friend, all-around stud)

Fiction
The Circle - Dave Eggers (McSweeney's founder, hugely prodigous, most know him from "Heartbreaking Work of Staggering Genius")
The Luminaries - Eleanor Catton (NY Times notable book, int'l book award winner, gf's bestie)

Poetry
Mayakovsky's Revolver - Matthew Dickman (frequent SEA reader, Huge stud in PDX, Tin House editor)

Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: bubbles4ksu on December 10, 2013, 12:40:10 PM
Anyone read Malcolm Gladwell's "David and Goliath" ?
it's just ok. i read "blink" first and his other books have been kinda disappointing. you'll learn some interesting stuff that's fun to talk about over beers.

just started d&g. seemed interesting.
it's good. i should have said how much i loved blink. it changed a lot of things for me and the other books have only been very good.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: michigancat on December 10, 2013, 12:44:40 PM
didn't know there were so many grown men into fantasy books.

Are you like trying to say they are children or something? Or women? :ck:
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: The_Wippuh on December 10, 2013, 01:14:59 PM
For the Fantasy Dorks

I'm really big into Martin's Game of Thrones and Jordan's Wheel of Time stuff.  As a teen, I read through the majority of the pulp out there (Forgotten Realms, Salvatore, Eddings, Fiest, etc...).

Rothfuss' stuff is probably the most well written and creative stuff out right now.  He's taking FOREVER, but it's simply brilliant.  He blows away Sanderson's Mistborn novels.  Sanderson is creative, but he's a pretty poor writer.  His new series has a lot of promise, but it's almost like he finished the complete butchering of Jordan's world and decided that he wanted to write something more grand.  You could cut 700 pages out of The Way of Kings and it would be pretty intriguing.  Instead, it's bloated with way too much about bridge runs and pseudo angst.

Rothfuss is wildly creative and has a great style when it comes to prose.  He is exactly like Martin in that, except he's more into the imaginary world stuff.  I cannot recommend it enough.  Read Mistborn when you need filler, read The Name of the Wind when you want to be blown away.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on December 10, 2013, 01:33:54 PM
After I finished reading the Wheel of Time series I read a couple of chapters of Mistborn online, but I guess it wasn't holding my attention enough because I haven't gone back to it. Maybe I need to check out this Rothfuss guy; but not sure I want to start another unfinished series right now.

Right now I'm working my way through the Enderverse; so maybe when I'm finished with that I'll come back looking for a suggestion.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Mr Bread on December 10, 2013, 01:49:17 PM
didn't know there were so many grown men into fantasy books.

Are you like trying to say they are children or something? Or women? :ck:

I would certainly hope not.  He read the Hunger Games trilogy after all.  Though it is mikey, so maybe. 
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Mr Bread on December 10, 2013, 01:54:44 PM
For the Fantasy Dorks

I'm really big into Martin's Game of Thrones and Jordan's Wheel of Time stuff.  As a teen, I read through the majority of the pulp out there (Forgotten Realms, Salvatore, Eddings, Fiest, etc...).

Rothfuss' stuff is probably the most well written and creative stuff out right now.  He's taking FOREVER, but it's simply brilliant.  He blows away Sanderson's Mistborn novels.  Sanderson is creative, but he's a pretty poor writer.  His new series has a lot of promise, but it's almost like he finished the complete butchering of Jordan's world and decided that he wanted to write something more grand.  You could cut 700 pages out of The Way of Kings and it would be pretty intriguing.  Instead, it's bloated with way too much about bridge runs and pseudo angst.

Rothfuss is wildly creative and has a great style when it comes to prose.  He is exactly like Martin in that, except he's more into the imaginary world stuff.  I cannot recommend it enough.  Read Mistborn when you need filler, read The Name of the Wind when you want to be blown away.

If you haven't read Abercrombie, then you can go ahead and just shut your rough ridin' face.  GRRM and Abercrombie are the best.  Maybe this Rothfuss guy is good too.  Pete seems to like him.  I'm not touching it until he finishes. 
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Mr Bread on December 10, 2013, 02:08:44 PM
Just finished the new Dark Tower book.  It was much better than the last three of the series, IMO.  Just a short one that basically tells a couple stories about crap that happened before the DT series starts in The Gunslinger. Really hope that King keeps spitting them out.  Should be plenty of possibilities to do similar stories about prequel stuff. 

Anyway, it's a quick read and enjoyable if you like the DT series.
it would be nice to get the bitter taste of the ending of that series washed away

Are the DT series worth reading?

Mixed bag.  The first book is one of my favs.  I don't reread many books, but have reread that one several times.  The Drawing of The Three was slow.  Wizard and Glass was really good.  The last three were very forced and sucked balls.

Overall, the first four set up a very good story and King muffed it like crazy on the last 3.  You could tell that he just had no idea how to proceed from the middle of the series to the last quarter of the last book.  That said, I would read it knowing what I know now.

Missed this the first time.  Completely agree with CNS here, Pete.  Really great stuff starting out and then he just lost it.  Still probably better than a lot of the fantasy stuff you'll run into out there in total.  I reread the first four because he had like a six-year hiatus before the last three.  The first four are definitely worth it. 
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Goddamnitnappa on December 10, 2013, 03:14:40 PM
more of a short story. The Most Dangerous Game is pretty good
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Skipper44 on December 10, 2013, 03:46:02 PM
If you enjoyed the political intrigue/scheming of GoT and like historical fiction The Last Kingdom by Bernard Cromwell and subsequent books are easy and straightforward reads.  The story is basically how King Alfred united all of England while fighting off the French and Vikings; no dragons tho.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: puniraptor on December 10, 2013, 03:48:22 PM
no dragons tho.

spoiler
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: sys on December 10, 2013, 04:31:08 PM
If you enjoyed the political intrigue/scheming of GoT and like historical fiction The Last Kingdom by Bernard Cromwell and subsequent books are easy and straightforward reads.  The story is basically how King Alfred united all of England while fighting off the French and Vikings; no dragons tho.

cromwell is great.  also writes like a fiend.  like a book a month or something, so you're not waiting around for him to finish stuff.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Pete on December 10, 2013, 07:22:42 PM
eff.

I hadn't realized that Rothfuss hasn't finished the series yet.  I am like Bread, in that I hat to wait for the next book.  GRRM has ruined me that way.


I am going to finish Name of the Wind, then jump into Abercrombie.  By the end of those maybe Rothfuss will be done.

I like that Kvothe character though...sucks to have to wait. 
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: whatdacatsay on December 10, 2013, 09:18:49 PM
A short history of nearly everything. Bill Bryson. It's not nearly as intimidating as it sounds. It's actually quite an entertaining read
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Frankenklein on December 10, 2013, 09:39:47 PM
A short history of nearly everything. Bill Bryson. It's not nearly as intimidating as it sounds. It's actually quite an entertaining read
I heard it doesn't have a lot of women in it and is a huge sausage fest.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: whatdacatsay on December 10, 2013, 10:27:09 PM
A short history of nearly everything. Bill Bryson. It's not nearly as intimidating as it sounds. It's actually quite an entertaining read
I heard it doesn't have a lot of women in it and is a huge sausage fest.

Well obviously. It's a book about history. I can't recall any women doing anything noteworthy.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: jmlynch1 on December 18, 2013, 12:26:24 PM
Just ordered the First Law trilogy. :impatient: :party:
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: michigancat on December 18, 2013, 12:36:20 PM
Currently reading 1491:

http://www.amazon.com/1491-Revelations-Americas-Before-Columbus/dp/1400032059

Very interesting so far. Did you realize Squanto (who helped the Pilgrims) had already been to Europe and back before they started Thanksgiving? :Wha:
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: CNS on December 18, 2013, 12:38:42 PM
Currently reading 1491:

http://www.amazon.com/1491-Revelations-Americas-Before-Columbus/dp/1400032059

Very interesting so far. Did you realize Squanto (who helped the Pilgrims) had already been to Europe and back before they started Thanksgiving? :Wha:

My little bro has been telling me to read this for a couple years.  Need to give it a whirl, I guess.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on December 18, 2013, 12:39:22 PM
reading another Lee Child- Jack Reacher novel called "A Wanted Man." its pretty good so far...
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: ben ji on December 18, 2013, 01:11:18 PM
Currently reading 1491:

http://www.amazon.com/1491-Revelations-Americas-Before-Columbus/dp/1400032059

Very interesting so far. Did you realize Squanto (who helped the Pilgrims) had already been to Europe and back before they started Thanksgiving? :Wha:

O man, love this stuff! Cant remember the name(1492 maybe?) but I watched a documentary a couple months ago on this exact same subject...One of the things I found interesting was the vast herds of buffalo early pioneers saw were a relatively new occurrence. It was only after European diseases wiped out the Native Americans that the buffalo herds reached such vast numbers.

Also I'm sure its been mentioned but Guns Germs and Steel is a great book as well, just watched the 3 part documentary on Netflix.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Emo EMAW on December 18, 2013, 01:22:05 PM
Currently reading 1491:

http://www.amazon.com/1491-Revelations-Americas-Before-Columbus/dp/1400032059

Very interesting so far. Did you realize Squanto (who helped the Pilgrims) had already been to Europe and back before they started Thanksgiving? :Wha:

O man, love this stuff! Cant remember the name(1492 maybe?) but I watched a documentary a couple months ago on this exact same subject...One of the things I found interesting was the vast herds of buffalo early pioneers saw were a relatively new occurrence. It was only after European diseases wiped out the Native Americans that the buffalo herds reached such vast numbers.

Also I'm sure its been mentioned but Guns Germs and Steel is a great book as well, just watched the 3 part documentary on Netflix.

I'm quite  :dubious: about this.  Native Americans didn't become efficient hunters of the buffalo until after they had the horse.  It was the horse that enabled the explosion in Native American populations on the prairies.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: CNS on December 18, 2013, 01:28:50 PM
Maybe settlers were feeding them their plentiful leftovers allowimg them to flourish?
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: ben ji on December 18, 2013, 01:43:35 PM
Currently reading 1491:

http://www.amazon.com/1491-Revelations-Americas-Before-Columbus/dp/1400032059

Very interesting so far. Did you realize Squanto (who helped the Pilgrims) had already been to Europe and back before they started Thanksgiving? :Wha:

O man, love this stuff! Cant remember the name(1492 maybe?) but I watched a documentary a couple months ago on this exact same subject...One of the things I found interesting was the vast herds of buffalo early pioneers saw were a relatively new occurrence. It was only after European diseases wiped out the Native Americans that the buffalo herds reached such vast numbers.

Also I'm sure its been mentioned but Guns Germs and Steel is a great book as well, just watched the 3 part documentary on Netflix.

I'm quite  :dubious: about this.  Native Americans didn't become efficient hunters of the buffalo until after they had the horse.  It was the horse that enabled the explosion in Native American populations on the prairies.

Not saying its the truth just interesting...Also before Native Americans had horses they would drive whole herds of buffalo off cliffs and crap. I Could see how that would help keep the numbers down.
Title: Re: book reccomendations
Post by: Boom Roasted on December 19, 2013, 08:23:05 AM
Most of these fracking suggestions are just to try and show how fancy pantsy these dumb fracks are.

I have a suggestion for you.  I heard of this book when listening to the Tony Kornheiser show...he told the listeners that if they bought this book and read it, he'd refund their money if they didn't like it.  I bought it and I read it.  One of the best fracking books I have ever read. 

You will say "holy crap" aloud as you read this book prolly 50 times.

(http://www.coverbrowser.com/image/bestselling-mystery-thriller-2008/662-5.jpg)

About 3/4 through Dirty White Boys in just the past 5 days.  On Holy crap number 35 or so.  Also get questions from Lady BR why I am chuckling every once in a while.  Good stuff.  Heard lots of his other stuff is good as well.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Cire on December 19, 2013, 09:43:54 AM
Is it true?
Title: Re: book reccomendations
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on December 19, 2013, 12:31:31 PM
Most of these fracking suggestions are just to try and show how fancy pantsy these dumb fracks are.

I have a suggestion for you.  I heard of this book when listening to the Tony Kornheiser show...he told the listeners that if they bought this book and read it, he'd refund their money if they didn't like it.  I bought it and I read it.  One of the best fracking books I have ever read. 

You will say "holy crap" aloud as you read this book prolly 50 times.

(http://www.coverbrowser.com/image/bestselling-mystery-thriller-2008/662-5.jpg)

About 3/4 through Dirty White Boys in just the past 5 days.  On Holy crap number 35 or so.  Also get questions from Lady BR why I am chuckling every once in a while.  Good stuff.  Heard lots of his other stuff is good as well.

same guy wrote the book the Marky Mark movie Shooter was based on.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on December 19, 2013, 01:33:51 PM
Currently reading 1491:

http://www.amazon.com/1491-Revelations-Americas-Before-Columbus/dp/1400032059

Very interesting so far. Did you realize Squanto (who helped the Pilgrims) had already been to Europe and back before they started Thanksgiving? :Wha:

O man, love this stuff! Cant remember the name(1492 maybe?) but I watched a documentary a couple months ago on this exact same subject...One of the things I found interesting was the vast herds of buffalo early pioneers saw were a relatively new occurrence. It was only after European diseases wiped out the Native Americans that the buffalo herds reached such vast numbers.

Also I'm sure its been mentioned but Guns Germs and Steel is a great book as well, just watched the 3 part documentary on Netflix.

I'm quite  :dubious: about this.  Native Americans didn't become efficient hunters of the buffalo until after they had the horse.  It was the horse that enabled the explosion in Native American populations on the prairies.

Not saying its the truth just interesting...Also before Native Americans had horses they would drive whole herds of buffalo off cliffs and crap. I Could see how that would help keep the numbers down.

There really aren't very many cliffs throughout much of the great plains, though.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Lucas Scoopsalot on December 19, 2013, 01:34:49 PM
This thread turned racist
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: bubbles4ksu on December 20, 2013, 03:35:48 PM
I bought Slouching Towards Bethlehem by Joan Didion a couple weeks ago after seeing Spencer Hall say that Didion was his favorite writer. Slouching a collection of essays about America in the sixties with a few personal notes from the author. The writing is tremendous, I can't describe how much I enjoyed it.

One essay that I particularly enjoyed was On Self-Respect. I've read it three times this week. I especially encourage anyone experiencing a difficult time to give the following a read:
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Once, in a dry season, I wrote in large letters across two pages of a notebook that innocence ends when one is stripped of the delusion that one likes oneself. Although now,
some years later, I marvel that a mind on the outs with itself should have nonetheless made painstaking record of its every tremor, I recall with embarrassing clarity the
flavor of those particular ashes. It was a mater of misplaced self-respect.

I had not been elected to Phi Beta Kappa. This failure could scarcely have been more predictable or less ambiguous (I simply did not have the grades), but I was unnerved by it; I had somehow thought myself a kind of academic Raskolnikov, curiously exempt from the cause-effect relationships which hampered others. Although even the humorless nineteen-year-old that I was must have recognized that the situation lacked real tragic stature, the day that I did to make Phi Beta kappa nonetheless marked the end of something, and innocence may well be the word for it. I lost the conviction that lights would always turn green for me, the pleasant certainty that those rather passive virtues which had won me approval as a child automatically guaranteed me not only Phi Beta Kappa keys but happiness, honor, and the love of a good man; lost a certain touching faith in the totem power of good manners, clean hair, and proved competence on the Stanford-Binet scale. To such doubtful amulets had my self-respect been pinned, and I faced myself that day with the nonplussed apprehension of someone who has come across a vampire and has no crucifix at hand.

Although to be driven back upon oneself is an uneasy affair at best, rather like trying to cross a border with borrowed credentials, it seems to me now the one condition necessary to the beginnings of real self-respect. Most of our platitudes notwithstanding, self-deception remains the most difficult deception. The tricks that work on others count for nothing in that well-lit back alley where one keeps assignations with oneself; no winning smiles will do here, no prettily drawn lists of good intentions. One shuffles flashily but in vain through ones’ marked cards the kindness done for the wrong reason, the apparent triumph which involved no real effort, the seemingly heroic act into which one had been shamed. The dismal fact is that self-respect has nothing to do with the approval of others – who we are, after all, deceived easily enough; has nothing to do with reputation, which, as Rhett Butler told Scarlett O’Hara, is something people with courage can do without.

To do without self-respect, on the other hand, is to be an unwilling audience of one to an interminable documentary that deals one’s failings, both real and imagined, with fresh footage spliced in for every screening. There’s the glass you broke in anger, there’s the hurt on X’s face; watch now, this next scene, the night Y came back from Houston, see how you muff this one. To live without self-respect is to lie awake some night, beyond the reach of warm milk, the Phenobarbital, and the sleeping hand on the coverlet, counting up the sins of commissions and omission, the trusts betrayed, the promises subtly broken, the gifts irrevocably wasted through sloth or cowardice, or carelessness. However long we postpone it, we eventually lie down alone in that notoriously uncomfortable bed, the one we make ourselves. Whether or not we sleep in it depends, of course, on whether or not we respect ourselves.

To protest that some fairly improbably people, some people who could not possibly respect themselves, seem to sleep easily enough is to miss the point entirely, as surely as those people miss it who think that self-respect has necessarily to do with not having safety pins in one’s underwear. There is a common superstition that “self-respect” is a kind of charm against snakes, something that keeps those who have it locked in some unblighted Eden, out of strange beds, ambivalent conversations, and trouble in general. It does not at all. It has nothing to do with the face of things, but concerns instead a separate peace, a private reconciliation. Although the careless, suicidal Julian English in Appointment in Samara and the careless, incurably dishonest Jordan Baker in The Great Gatsby seem equally improbably candidates for self-respect, Jordan Baker had it, Julian English did not. With that genius for accommodation more often seen in women than men, Jordan took her own measure, made her own peace, avoided threats to that peace: “I hate careless people,” she told Nick Carraway. “It takes two to make an accident.”

Like Jordan Baker, people with self-respect have the courage of their mistakes. They know the price of things. If they choose to commit adultery, they do not then go running, in an access of bad conscience, to receive absolution from the wronged parties; nor do they complain unduly of the unfairness, the undeserved embarrassment, of being named co-respondent. In brief, people with self-respect exhibit a certain toughness, a kind of mortal nerve; they display what was once called character, a quality which, although approved in the abstract, sometimes loses ground to other, more instantly negotiable virtues. The measure of its slipping prestige is that one tends to think of it only in connection with homely children and United States senators who have been defeated, preferably in the primary, for reelection. Nonetheless, character – the willingness to accept responsibility for one’s own life – is the source from which self-respect springs.

Self-respect is something that our grandparents, whether or not they had it, knew all about. They had instilled in them, young, a certain discipline, the sense that one lives by doing things one does not particularly want to do, by putting fears and doubts to one side, by weighing immediate comforts against the possibility of larger, even intangible, comforts. It seemed to the nineteenth century admirable, but not remarkable, that Chinese Gordon put on a clean white suit and held Khartoum against the Mahdi; it did not seem unjust that the way to free land in California involved death and difficulty and dirt. In a diary kept during the winter of 1846, an emigrating twelve-yaer-old named Narcissa Cornwall noted coolly: “Father was busy reading and did not notice that the house was being filled with strange Indians until Mother spoke out about it.” Even lacking any clue as to what Mother said, one can scarcely fail to be impressed by the entire incident: the father reading, the Indians filing in, the mother choosing the words that would not alarm, the child duly recording the event and noting further that those particular Indians were not, “fortunately for us,” hostile. Indians were simply part of the donnee.
In one guise or another, Indians always are. Again, it is a question of recognizing that anything worth having has its price. People who respect themselves are willing to accept the risk that the Indians will be hostile, that the venture will go bankrupt, that the liaison may not turn out to be one in which every day is a holiday because you’re married to me. They are willing to invest something of themselves; they may not play at all, but when they do play, they know the odds.

That kind of self-respect is a discipline, a habit of mind that can never be faked but can be developed, trained, coaxed forth. It was once suggested to me that, as an antidote to crying, I put my had in a paper bag. As it happens, there is a sound physiological reason, something to do with oxygen, for doing exactly that, but the psychological effect alone is incalculable: it is difficult bin the extreme to continue fancying oneself Cathy in Wuthering Heights with ones head in a Food Fair bag. There is a similar case for all the small disciplines, unimportant in themselves; imagine maintaining any kind of swoon, commiserative or carnal, in a cold shower.
But those small disciplines are valuable only insofar as they represent larger ones. To say that Waterloo was won on the playing fields of Eton is not to say that Napoleon might have been saved by a crash program in cricket; to give formal dinners in the rain forest would be pointless did not the candlelight flickering on the liana call forth deeper, stronger disciplines, values instilled long before. It is a kind of ritual, helping us to remember who and what we are. In order to remember it, one must have known it.

To have that sense of one’s intrinsic worth which constitutes self-respect is potentially to have everything: the ability to discriminate, to love and to remain indifferent. To lack it is to be locked within oneself, paradoxically incapable of either love or indifference. If we do not respect ourselves, we are the one hand forced to despise those who have so few resources as to consort with us, so little perception as to remain blind to our fatal weaknesses. On the other, we are peculiarly in thrall to everyone we see, curiously determined to live out – since our self-image is untenable – their false notion of us. We flatter ourselves by thinking this compulsion to please others an attractive trait: a gist for imaginative empathy, evidence of our willingness to give. Of course I will play Francesca to your Paolo, Helen Keller to anyone’s Annie Sullivan; no expectation is too misplaced, no role too ludicrous. At the mercy of those we cannot but hold in contempt, we play roles doomed to failure before they are begun, each defeat generating fresh despair at the urgency of divining and meting the next demand made upon us.

It is the phenomenon sometimes called “alienation from self.” In its advanced stages, we no longer answer the telephone, because someone might want something; that we could say no without drowning in self-reproach is an idea alien to this game. Every encounter demands to much, tears the nerves, drains the will, and the specter of something as small as an unanswered letter arouses such disproportionate guilt that answering it becomes out of the question. To assign unanswered letters their proper weight, to free us from the expectations of others, to give us back to ourselves – there lies the great, the singular power of self-respect. Without it, one eventually discovers the final turn of the screw: one runs away to find oneself, and finds no one at home.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: bubbles4ksu on December 20, 2013, 03:41:03 PM
if you read that essay or book let me know and i will buy you a beer so we can talk about it.

i think sys and mich. and other californiacats would appreciate the book's many CA-based essays.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: mocat on December 20, 2013, 03:41:38 PM
i'm going to buy this for somebody for christmas. not sure who yet.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/145919432/William-Shakespeare-s-Star-Wars-An-Excerpt (http://www.scribd.com/doc/145919432/William-Shakespeare-s-Star-Wars-An-Excerpt)
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: 8manpick on December 20, 2013, 03:56:36 PM
if you read that essay or book let me know and i will buy you a beer so we can talk about it.

Really liked that essay, thanks for sharing.  I guess you owe me a beer now.  Tomorrow?
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Brock Landers on December 20, 2013, 03:59:25 PM
if you read that essay or book let me know and i will buy you a beer so we can talk about it.

i think sys and mich. and other californiacats would appreciate the books CA-based essays.


(http://bi.gazeta.pl/im/7/11268/z11268217O.jpg)
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: puniraptor on December 20, 2013, 04:02:15 PM
i'll read that thing you posted sometime, bubs
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: bubbles4ksu on December 20, 2013, 04:32:12 PM
if you read that essay or book let me know and i will buy you a beer so we can talk about it.

Really liked that essay, thanks for sharing.  I guess you owe me a beer now.  Tomorrow?
:thumbs: yes, tomorrow.

i'll read that thing you posted sometime, bubs
:thumbs:

Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Pete on January 07, 2014, 08:59:11 AM

For the Fantasy Dorks

I'm really big into Martin's Game of Thrones and Jordan's Wheel of Time stuff.  As a teen, I read through the majority of the pulp out there (Forgotten Realms, Salvatore, Eddings, Fiest, etc...).

Rothfuss' stuff is probably the most well written and creative stuff out right now.  He's taking FOREVER, but it's simply brilliant.  He blows away Sanderson's Mistborn novels.  Sanderson is creative, but he's a pretty poor writer.  His new series has a lot of promise, but it's almost like he finished the complete butchering of Jordan's world and decided that he wanted to write something more grand.  You could cut 700 pages out of The Way of Kings and it would be pretty intriguing.  Instead, it's bloated with way too much about bridge runs and pseudo angst.

Rothfuss is wildly creative and has a great style when it comes to prose.  He is exactly like Martin in that, except he's more into the imaginary world stuff.  I cannot recommend it enough.  Read Mistborn when you need filler, read The Name of the Wind when you want to be blown away.

If you haven't read Abercrombie, then you can go ahead and just shut your rough ridin' face.  GRRM and Abercrombie are the best.  Maybe this Rothfuss guy is good too.  Pete seems to like him.  I'm not touching it until he finishes.

I caved and started the second Rothfuss book.  It's really good.  I'll be done by the end of the week, then I start Abercrombie.  I'M TRUSTING YOU BREAD!
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Pete on January 07, 2014, 09:00:13 AM

Most of these fracking suggestions are just to try and show how fancy pantsy these dumb fracks are.

I have a suggestion for you.  I heard of this book when listening to the Tony Kornheiser show...he told the listeners that if they bought this book and read it, he'd refund their money if they didn't like it.  I bought it and I read it.  One of the best fracking books I have ever read. 

You will say "holy crap" aloud as you read this book prolly 50 times.

(http://www.coverbrowser.com/image/bestselling-mystery-thriller-2008/662-5.jpg)

About 3/4 through Dirty White Boys in just the past 5 days.  On Holy crap number 35 or so.  Also get questions from Lady BR why I am chuckling every once in a while.  Good stuff.  Heard lots of his other stuff is good as well.

TOLD YOU!

It's a crazy rough ridin' book, and a crap load of fun to read.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: 8manpick on January 07, 2014, 09:18:52 AM
Read Vonnegut's Sirens of Titan last week and it is one of my favorite books I've ever read.  Significantly better than the very good Slaughterhouse Five IMHO
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: michigancat on January 07, 2014, 10:32:58 AM
I'm still reading Infinite Jest and it's easily my favorite book ever.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on January 07, 2014, 10:36:35 AM
just finished my third Jack Reacher, Lee Child novel. theyre pretty good but I need a break from Jack. should I read "Dirty White Boys" next?
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on January 07, 2014, 10:59:53 AM
my god what a bunch of showoffs
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: michigancat on January 07, 2014, 11:09:36 AM
my god what a bunch of showoffs

Are you jealous? :D
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on January 07, 2014, 11:11:57 AM
my god what a bunch of showoffs

Are you jealous? :D

why don't you go change your name to "ireadalotofbookscat" and just leave me alone.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on January 07, 2014, 11:27:30 AM
rick what exactly do you do? you don't read, don't watch tv shows, don't watch ESPN (non-games). so... are you out on patrol for 13 hours a day or what? :confused:
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: 8manpick on January 07, 2014, 11:33:58 AM
Think he just drinks a shitload of bud lights, sometimes with lime
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Pete on January 07, 2014, 11:43:31 AM
just finished my third Jack Reacher, Lee Child novel. theyre pretty good but I need a break from Jack. should I read "Dirty White Boys" next?

You will not regret reading Dirty White Boys.  DO IT!  It's a stand alone book, not a series.

Stephen Hunter also writes a bunch of other books other characters related to Dirty White Boys (Bob Lee Swagger), which are badasses that go around and whip people's asses and shoot them in the face and have sex and generally just be studs.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: The_Wippuh on January 07, 2014, 03:26:25 PM
I have purchased Dirty White Boys on my Kindle.  It better be rough ridin' good, if it's anything like the movie Shooter, heads will roll.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Pete on January 07, 2014, 04:52:30 PM
I have purchased Dirty White Boys on my Kindle.  It better be rough ridin' good, if it's anything like the movie Shooter, heads will roll.

Come post back here after you read the first 2-4 pages.  :sdeek:

Also, the book that Shooter is based on is actually not bad, but it's different than Dirty White Boys.  Stephen Hunter tends to get really specific about guns and action and stuff.  He's like a Tom Clancy on the technical detail, but then mixed with a Stephen King when it comes to his willingness to go into graphic detail on really mumped sex and violence stuff.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Mr Bread on January 07, 2014, 05:34:05 PM

For the Fantasy Dorks

I'm really big into Martin's Game of Thrones and Jordan's Wheel of Time stuff.  As a teen, I read through the majority of the pulp out there (Forgotten Realms, Salvatore, Eddings, Fiest, etc...).

Rothfuss' stuff is probably the most well written and creative stuff out right now.  He's taking FOREVER, but it's simply brilliant.  He blows away Sanderson's Mistborn novels.  Sanderson is creative, but he's a pretty poor writer.  His new series has a lot of promise, but it's almost like he finished the complete butchering of Jordan's world and decided that he wanted to write something more grand.  You could cut 700 pages out of The Way of Kings and it would be pretty intriguing.  Instead, it's bloated with way too much about bridge runs and pseudo angst.

Rothfuss is wildly creative and has a great style when it comes to prose.  He is exactly like Martin in that, except he's more into the imaginary world stuff.  I cannot recommend it enough.  Read Mistborn when you need filler, read The Name of the Wind when you want to be blown away.

If you haven't read Abercrombie, then you can go ahead and just shut your rough ridin' face.  GRRM and Abercrombie are the best.  Maybe this Rothfuss guy is good too.  Pete seems to like him.  I'm not touching it until he finishes.

I caved and started the second Rothfuss book.  It's really good.  I'll be done by the end of the week, then I start Abercrombie.  I'M TRUSTING YOU BREAD!

You are in for a treat then.  I started rereading them and they're still great. 
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: CNS on January 07, 2014, 07:45:01 PM
Reading The Blade Itself now. Only about 8% into it so far. 

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Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Lucas Scoopsalot on January 07, 2014, 07:56:45 PM
Has anyone read Sycamore Row by John Grisham?
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Kat Kid on January 07, 2014, 08:19:10 PM
I am reading way too much about nazis please get me out of this guys
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: bubbles4ksu on January 07, 2014, 08:21:30 PM
I am reading way too much about nazis please get me out of this guys
recommend me the best book about the nuremberg trials and i'll see what i can do.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: CNS on January 07, 2014, 08:23:29 PM
Has anyone read Sycamore Row by John Grisham?

Yes.  It's just ok.  It's no Time To Kill, though.

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Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: jmlynch1 on January 07, 2014, 08:24:53 PM
Reading The Blade Itself now. Only about 8% into it so far. 

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i'm like 4/5ths through that now. Coworker told me the first book is mostly build up.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Kat Kid on January 07, 2014, 08:32:53 PM

I am reading way too much about nazis please get me out of this guys
recommend me the best book about the nuremberg trials and i'll see what i can do.

Are you trying to help?  I am now googling books over Nuremberg.

The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich is derivative from Nuremberg and references quotes and commentary on the quotes but it it not about Nuremberg.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: jmlynch1 on January 07, 2014, 08:37:24 PM
I am reading way too much about nazis please get me out of this guys
the giver
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: bubbles4ksu on January 07, 2014, 08:42:39 PM
I am reading way too much about nazis please get me out of this guys
recommend me the best book about the nuremberg trials and i'll see what i can do.
Are you trying to help?  I am now googling books over Nuremberg.

The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich is derivative from Nuremberg and references quotes and commentary on the quotes but it it not about Nuremberg.
i was hoping that you'd read a book about the trials already. i really think you should read Slouching Towards Bethlehem.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: 8manpick on January 07, 2014, 10:11:35 PM
Recommend me the best book about Ireland v N Ireland, The Troubles, historical background, etc. TIA gE!
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on January 07, 2014, 10:19:44 PM
Dirty White Boys downloaded to kindle...


Here we go!
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on January 07, 2014, 10:49:19 PM
What the eff  :sdeek:
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on January 07, 2014, 10:56:34 PM
PETE WHAT HAVE YOU DONE?!?!?!
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Pete on January 08, 2014, 06:41:19 AM

PETE WHAT HAVE YOU DONE?!?!?!

Starts off with bang, eh? :fatty:
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: CNS on January 08, 2014, 09:10:43 AM
Reading The Blade Itself now. Only about 8% into it so far. 

Sent from my KFTT using Tapatalk 2
i'm like 4/5ths through that now. Coworker told me the first book is mostly build up.

I am fine with that.  I enjoy character development.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Emo EMAW on January 08, 2014, 09:19:13 AM
Any more Lewis and Clark or Custer or development of the west historical type books?  Books I've read in this genre:

Blood and Thunder (Kit Carson/Santa Fe Trail/Navajos)
Empire of the Summer Moon (about Comanches)
Undaunted Courage (Lewis and Clark expedition)
Crazy Horse and Custer
Wooden Leg (biography of a Cherokee who was at Custer's Last Stand)

I'd really love to read about stuff more specific to Kansas frontier history.  I like driving around out west and driving over a river and remembering that so-and-so indians camped along this river right before this one big thing.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Boom Roasted on January 08, 2014, 09:32:56 AM
I have purchased Dirty White Boys on my Kindle.  It better be rough ridin' good, if it's anything like the movie Shooter, heads will roll.

Come post back here after you read the first 2-4 pages.  :sdeek:

Also, the book that Shooter is based on is actually not bad, but it's different than Dirty White Boys.  Stephen Hunter tends to get really specific about guns and action and stuff.  He's like a Tom Clancy on the technical detail, but then mixed with a Stephen King when it comes to his willingness to go into graphic detail on really mumped sex and violence stuff.

Yes you will enjoy Dirty White Boys, I am now about 3/4 through Point of Impact(shooter) and its pretty darn good.  Wish I hadn't seen the movie because i'm sure it would be better without knowing generally what was going to happen.  Will surely read some more of his stuff.  While it's not intellectual show-off stuff, its very entertaining and that's really all I am going for.  Thanks Pete :thumbsup:
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Pete on January 08, 2014, 10:48:42 AM
I have purchased Dirty White Boys on my Kindle.  It better be rough ridin' good, if it's anything like the movie Shooter, heads will roll.

Come post back here after you read the first 2-4 pages.  :sdeek:

Also, the book that Shooter is based on is actually not bad, but it's different than Dirty White Boys.  Stephen Hunter tends to get really specific about guns and action and stuff.  He's like a Tom Clancy on the technical detail, but then mixed with a Stephen King when it comes to his willingness to go into graphic detail on really mumped sex and violence stuff.

Yes you will enjoy Dirty White Boys, I am now about 3/4 through Point of Impact(shooter) and its pretty darn good.  Wish I hadn't seen the movie because i'm sure it would be better without knowing generally what was going to happen.  Will surely read some more of his stuff.  While it's not intellectual show-off stuff, its very entertaining and that's really all I am going for.  Thanks Pete :thumbsup:

If you like those, then read his series that takes place earlier in history, after WW2.  It's Bob Lee Swagger's Dad, Earl, who is a badass.  The first book takes place in Hot Springs Arkansas (book is called "Hot Springs").  The series of three books is referred to as the "Earl Swagger Series."  Those are filled with really cool stuff about that area of Arkansas, and loads of ass kicking and shooting faces off and all that good stuff.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on January 08, 2014, 01:02:24 PM
 :horrorsurprise:

http://www.amazon.com/Empty-Mansions-Mysterious-Huguette-Spending/dp/0345534522
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on January 09, 2014, 08:27:11 AM

PETE WHAT HAVE YOU DONE?!?!?!

Starts off with bang, eh? :fatty:

ok, it calmed down a bit since the beginning. im very interested at this point.

FIRMLY BY THE BALLS
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: michigancat on January 09, 2014, 10:31:12 AM
Any more Lewis and Clark or Custer or development of the west historical type books?  Books I've read in this genre:

Blood and Thunder (Kit Carson/Santa Fe Trail/Navajos)
Empire of the Summer Moon (about Comanches)
Undaunted Courage (Lewis and Clark expedition)
Crazy Horse and Custer
Wooden Leg (biography of a Cherokee who was at Custer's Last Stand)

I'd really love to read about stuff more specific to Kansas frontier history.  I like driving around out west and driving over a river and remembering that so-and-so indians camped along this river right before this one big thing.

Not exactly like what you're looking for, but it's in that vein:

http://www.amazon.com/1491-Revelations-Americas-Before-Columbus/dp/1400032059/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1389284996&sr=8-1&keywords=1491

I'm about halfway through and really enjoy it.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Emo EMAW on January 09, 2014, 10:33:02 AM
Any more Lewis and Clark or Custer or development of the west historical type books?  Books I've read in this genre:

Blood and Thunder (Kit Carson/Santa Fe Trail/Navajos)
Empire of the Summer Moon (about Comanches)
Undaunted Courage (Lewis and Clark expedition)
Crazy Horse and Custer
Wooden Leg (biography of a Cherokee who was at Custer's Last Stand)

I'd really love to read about stuff more specific to Kansas frontier history.  I like driving around out west and driving over a river and remembering that so-and-so indians camped along this river right before this one big thing.

Not exactly like what you're looking for, but it's in that vein:

http://www.amazon.com/1491-Revelations-Americas-Before-Columbus/dp/1400032059/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1389284996&sr=8-1&keywords=1491

I'm about halfway through and really enjoy it.

That does look good.  Thanks.   :thumbs:
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: 8manpick on January 09, 2014, 10:37:34 AM
Recommend me the best book about Ireland v N Ireland, The Troubles, historical background, etc. TIA gE!

:(
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on January 09, 2014, 10:38:02 AM
pete we should PM about DWBs
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: ben ji on January 09, 2014, 10:41:13 AM
Any more Lewis and Clark or Custer or development of the west historical type books?  Books I've read in this genre:

Blood and Thunder (Kit Carson/Santa Fe Trail/Navajos)
Empire of the Summer Moon (about Comanches)
Undaunted Courage (Lewis and Clark expedition)
Crazy Horse and Custer
Wooden Leg (biography of a Cherokee who was at Custer's Last Stand)

I'd really love to read about stuff more specific to Kansas frontier history.  I like driving around out west and driving over a river and remembering that so-and-so indians camped along this river right before this one big thing.

Not exactly like what you're looking for, but it's in that vein:

http://www.amazon.com/1491-Revelations-Americas-Before-Columbus/dp/1400032059/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1389284996&sr=8-1&keywords=1491

I'm about halfway through and really enjoy it.

Only read a couple of chapters so far but very good!
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Kat Kid on January 09, 2014, 11:00:19 AM
Any more Lewis and Clark or Custer or development of the west historical type books?  Books I've read in this genre:

Blood and Thunder (Kit Carson/Santa Fe Trail/Navajos)
Empire of the Summer Moon (about Comanches)
Undaunted Courage (Lewis and Clark expedition)
Crazy Horse and Custer
Wooden Leg (biography of a Cherokee who was at Custer's Last Stand)

I'd really love to read about stuff more specific to Kansas frontier history.  I like driving around out west and driving over a river and remembering that so-and-so indians camped along this river right before this one big thing.

Tangentially related:
River of Doubt is about Teddy Roosevelt exploring the Amazon and I thought it was excellent.

Also:
Villa and Zapata : A History of the Mexican Revolution
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on January 14, 2014, 04:06:29 PM
PETE!!!!!!!  :shakesfist: :shakesfist: :shakesfist:
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Emo EMAW on January 14, 2014, 04:11:55 PM
Has anyone read any Thomas McGuane? 
Title: book recommendations
Post by: Pete on January 14, 2014, 07:40:28 PM
PETE!!!!!!!  :shakesfist: :shakesfist: :shakesfist:

I told you it was mumped up!  It's a unique book.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: bubbles4ksu on January 14, 2014, 08:19:32 PM
Any more Lewis and Clark or Custer or development of the west historical type books?  Books I've read in this genre:

Blood and Thunder (Kit Carson/Santa Fe Trail/Navajos)
Empire of the Summer Moon (about Comanches)
Undaunted Courage (Lewis and Clark expedition)
Crazy Horse and Custer
Wooden Leg (biography of a Cherokee who was at Custer's Last Stand)

I'd really love to read about stuff more specific to Kansas frontier history.  I like driving around out west and driving over a river and remembering that so-and-so indians camped along this river right before this one big thing.

Tangentially related:
River of Doubt is about Teddy Roosevelt exploring the Amazon and I thought it was excellent.

Also:
Villa and Zapata : A History of the Mexican Revolution
I thought the same about River of Doubt. TR can inspire you to do manly things.

Nothing Like It in the World is the Stephen Ambrose book about the transcontinental railroad. He spends a lot of time complaining about corrupt congressmen and financiers so it's less exciting than his other books.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: michigancat on January 14, 2014, 10:01:20 PM
Any good evolutionary psychology books?

Have read "Social Conquest of Earth" and "Thinking Fast and Slow" recently and really enjoy the general subjects addressed.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Pete on January 15, 2014, 10:24:12 PM

For the Fantasy Dorks

I'm really big into Martin's Game of Thrones and Jordan's Wheel of Time stuff.  As a teen, I read through the majority of the pulp out there (Forgotten Realms, Salvatore, Eddings, Fiest, etc...).

Rothfuss' stuff is probably the most well written and creative stuff out right now.  He's taking FOREVER, but it's simply brilliant.  He blows away Sanderson's Mistborn novels.  Sanderson is creative, but he's a pretty poor writer.  His new series has a lot of promise, but it's almost like he finished the complete butchering of Jordan's world and decided that he wanted to write something more grand.  You could cut 700 pages out of The Way of Kings and it would be pretty intriguing.  Instead, it's bloated with way too much about bridge runs and pseudo angst.

Rothfuss is wildly creative and has a great style when it comes to prose.  He is exactly like Martin in that, except he's more into the imaginary world stuff.  I cannot recommend it enough.  Read Mistborn when you need filler, read The Name of the Wind when you want to be blown away.

If you haven't read Abercrombie, then you can go ahead and just shut your rough ridin' face.  GRRM and Abercrombie are the best.  Maybe this Rothfuss guy is good too.  Pete seems to like him.  I'm not touching it until he finishes.

I caved and started the second Rothfuss book.  It's really good.  I'll be done by the end of the week, then I start Abercrombie.  I'M TRUSTING YOU BREAD!

You are in for a treat then.  I started rereading them and they're still great.

The first one (the Blade itself) was pretty good, and I just started the second one and it seems like it might be better.  I saw where someone else posted that the first one is a lot of character background.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Pete on January 15, 2014, 10:27:40 PM
So I finished the two Patrick Rothfuss "King Killer Chronicles" books.  The third in the trilogy isn't out yet, and seems to be a ways off.

It's frustrating to not be able to finish the series, but they are really great books.  This is a WAY too simplistic description, but think of them as Harry Potter, but if he was a rough ridin' bad ass and the books were for adults.

The first one starts a bit slow, but picks up steam fast.  There is a bit of a fanciful turn of events about 3/4 the way through the second book, but if it finishes strong.

I highly recommend them.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Pete on January 15, 2014, 10:32:32 PM
For the Fantasy Dorks

I'm really big into Martin's Game of Thrones and Jordan's Wheel of Time stuff.  As a teen, I read through the majority of the pulp out there (Forgotten Realms, Salvatore, Eddings, Fiest, etc...).

Rothfuss' stuff is probably the most well written and creative stuff out right now. He's taking FOREVER, but it's simply brilliant.  He blows away Sanderson's Mistborn novels.  Sanderson is creative, but he's a pretty poor writer.  His new series has a lot of promise, but it's almost like he finished the complete butchering of Jordan's world and decided that he wanted to write something more grand.  You could cut 700 pages out of The Way of Kings and it would be pretty intriguing.  Instead, it's bloated with way too much about bridge runs and pseudo angst.

Rothfuss is wildly creative and has a great style when it comes to prose.  He is exactly like Martin in that, except he's more into the imaginary world stuff.  I cannot recommend it enough.  Read Mistborn when you need filler, read The Name of the Wind when you want to be blown away.

I couldn't agree more. Kvothe (the main character) is a rough ridin' joy to follow.   Gut wrenching that last book isn't out yet. 

This, and SOFAI, are so good that I'll probably take a couple days off of work and just read when the next books come out.  Such a pleasure.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: michigancat on January 20, 2014, 07:42:54 PM
I finally finished Infinite Jest. I want to start reading it again immediately. Crazy.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: bubbles4ksu on January 21, 2014, 04:23:44 PM
Any good evolutionary psychology books?

Have read "Social Conquest of Earth" and "Thinking Fast and Slow" recently and really enjoy the general subjects addressed.
"The Intelligence Paradox" is very fun and will make you feel smart. As we've discussed, the author is a racist and there are a couple of paragraphs that will make you shake your head but the shitty stuff is all opinion/conclusion, the science is very fun. Don't buy a new copy and you won't be funding him.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Kat Kid on January 22, 2014, 07:15:49 AM
I'm done with nazis.  Probably going to read a couple of instructional books on bridge.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on January 22, 2014, 09:12:49 AM
I'm done with nazis.  Probably going to read a couple of instructional books on bridge.

Nazis were so 2000's
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: 8manpick on January 22, 2014, 09:55:47 AM
I'm done with nazis.  Probably going to read a couple of instructional books on bridge.

are you 70 years old?
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Pete on January 22, 2014, 10:42:57 AM


For the Fantasy Dorks

I'm really big into Martin's Game of Thrones and Jordan's Wheel of Time stuff.  As a teen, I read through the majority of the pulp out there (Forgotten Realms, Salvatore, Eddings, Fiest, etc...).

Rothfuss' stuff is probably the most well written and creative stuff out right now.  He's taking FOREVER, but it's simply brilliant.  He blows away Sanderson's Mistborn novels.  Sanderson is creative, but he's a pretty poor writer.  His new series has a lot of promise, but it's almost like he finished the complete butchering of Jordan's world and decided that he wanted to write something more grand.  You could cut 700 pages out of The Way of Kings and it would be pretty intriguing.  Instead, it's bloated with way too much about bridge runs and pseudo angst.

Rothfuss is wildly creative and has a great style when it comes to prose.  He is exactly like Martin in that, except he's more into the imaginary world stuff.  I cannot recommend it enough.  Read Mistborn when you need filler, read The Name of the Wind when you want to be blown away.

If you haven't read Abercrombie, then you can go ahead and just shut your rough ridin' face.  GRRM and Abercrombie are the best.  Maybe this Rothfuss guy is good too.  Pete seems to like him.  I'm not touching it until he finishes.

I caved and started the second Rothfuss book.  It's really good.  I'll be done by the end of the week, then I start Abercrombie.  I'M TRUSTING YOU BREAD!

You are in for a treat then.  I started rereading them and they're still great.

The first one (the Blade itself) was pretty good, and I just started the second one and it seems like it might be better.  I saw where someone else posted that the first one is a lot of character background.

50% of the way through the second Abercrombie book, I love the three pronged story covering the converging wars.  The battle descriptions are awesome, and the internal monologue of Glotka is a lot of fun to read....I find myself most attached to Glotka, Logan the Northman, and the band of Threetrees, Dogman, Dow, and Grim.

Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on January 22, 2014, 10:44:15 AM
I'm done with nazis.  Probably going to read a couple of instructional books on bridge.

are you 70 years old?

 :lol:
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Mr Bread on January 22, 2014, 11:03:46 AM
50% of the way through the second Abercrombie book, I love the three pronged story covering the converging wars.  The battle descriptions are awesome, and the internal monologue of Glotka is a lot of fun to read....I find myself most attached to Glotka, Logan the Northman, and the band of Threetrees, Dogman, Dow, and Grim.

Yeah, I like Glokta and Logen once you figure out why/how he's as great a warrior as he is.  I liked the little mythology he created as well and how he only gives you just a taste and leaves you wanting so much more.  Makes for some motivated reading, at least it did for me.   I love back story though.   Complete sucker for it.  I also like the backdrop of all the political intrigue, betrayals and power grabbing.  Fun climate for a story.  Keeps you guessing right along with the main characters. 
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Mr Bread on January 22, 2014, 12:28:13 PM
Also once you finish I will tell you my biggest gripe with the books and it's Logen related.  Got right in my craw after the fact. 
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: mocat on January 22, 2014, 12:30:52 PM
I'm done with nazis.  Probably going to read a couple of instructional books on bridge.

are you 70 years old?

would he need the instructional books if he were 70 years old?
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Pete on January 28, 2014, 03:51:22 PM

Yeah, I like Glokta and Logen once you figure out why/how he's as great a warrior as he is.  I liked the little mythology he created as well and how he only gives you just a taste and leaves you wanting so much more.  Makes for some motivated reading, at least it did for me.   I love back story though.   Complete sucker for it.  I also like the backdrop of all the political intrigue, betrayals and power grabbing.  Fun climate for a story.  Keeps you guessing right along with the main characters.

Started Abercrombie's third book in the series this weekend....really, really enjoying this series.  I don't know what I'll do when this one is done, have nothing in my on-deck circle.   :frown:
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Mr Bread on January 28, 2014, 04:09:19 PM

Yeah, I like Glokta and Logen once you figure out why/how he's as great a warrior as he is.  I liked the little mythology he created as well and how he only gives you just a taste and leaves you wanting so much more.  Makes for some motivated reading, at least it did for me.   I love back story though.   Complete sucker for it.  I also like the backdrop of all the political intrigue, betrayals and power grabbing.  Fun climate for a story.  Keeps you guessing right along with the main characters.

Started Abercrombie's third book in the series this weekend....really, really enjoying this series.  I don't know what I'll do when this one is done, have nothing in my on-deck circle.   :frown:

He has three more.  Best Served Cold, The Heroes and Red Country (in order).  They follow the original three.  Some lesser characters with expanded roles (e.g., Shivers, Cosca, Gorst, Calder) and of course new characters and settings.  The Heroes might have been my favorite out of all his books.  Best Served Cold is solid.  Red Country is his worst book imo. 
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Pete on January 28, 2014, 05:50:20 PM
Yes!  Will read next.  Bread start picking out what I read after that, you are now my personal book pre-reader.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: mocat on February 06, 2014, 01:14:42 PM
i am about halfway through the girl who kicked the hornet's nest, and it is by far my favorite of the trilogy so far
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: michigancat on February 06, 2014, 01:20:49 PM
I'm reading Nate Silver's "Signal and the Noise". Love crap like that.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on February 06, 2014, 01:36:04 PM
i am about halfway through the girl who kicked the hornet's nest, and it is by far my favorite of the trilogy so far

It's been so long since I read those that I can barely remember what happened in each one. They were all pretty good though.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: mocat on February 06, 2014, 03:00:58 PM
the first one is pretty much all about sexual violence against women

the second one is pretty much revenge and stuff

the third one is completely an espionage novel
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Kat Kid on February 06, 2014, 03:12:54 PM
I'm reading Nate Silver's "Signal and the Noise". Love crap like that.

this is now my next book.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: ben ji on February 07, 2014, 09:22:22 PM
I finally finished Infinite Jest. I want to start reading it again immediately. Crazy.

Started reading this, got about 30 pages in and I really hate how there are no paragraphs, just straight blocks of text.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Tobias on February 07, 2014, 09:46:00 PM
the first one is pretty much all about sexual violence against women

the second one is pretty much revenge and stuff

the third one is completely an espionage novel

i started reading these on a friday night and ended up taking a vacation day on monday :users:
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: michigancat on February 08, 2014, 01:21:30 AM
I finally finished Infinite Jest. I want to start reading it again immediately. Crazy.

Started reading this, got about 30 pages in and I really hate how there are no paragraphs, just straight blocks of text.

um, there are definitely paragraphs. Still, it takes about 250 pages to "get over the hump". It's worth it.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: mocat on February 08, 2014, 04:12:22 PM
the first one is pretty much all about sexual violence against women

the second one is pretty much revenge and stuff

the third one is completely an espionage novel

i started reading these on a friday night and ended up taking a vacation day on monday :users:

Haha for reals? They are certainly page turners
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Tobias on February 08, 2014, 04:13:20 PM
i hardly ever read but when i do it's with extreme aggression
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: libstradamus on February 08, 2014, 04:27:52 PM
i hardly ever read but when i do it's with extreme aggression

yes, same way.  one of the major reasons i don't enjoy reading books is because it takes multiple sittings.  anything over 2 days and i'm almost sure to lose interest.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: kim carnes on February 08, 2014, 04:31:31 PM
i only read technical documents.  anyone who reads someone else's fictional thoughts is an idiot.  have some creativity guys.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: michigancat on February 10, 2014, 01:41:46 PM
Read 2666, whew that was an experience.  Pretty great imo, the scope was so huge.

Thinking about reading this next. Have you read Savage Detectives?
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on February 10, 2014, 02:35:52 PM
started reading "Lone Survivor"

its pretty good so far and I haven't even gotten to the intense parts yet.

SPOILER ALERT: the dude does NOT like liberals.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: ChiCat on February 11, 2014, 12:08:54 AM
Don't know if this goes here or the music thread, but the upcoming Hold Steady album is supposed to be influenced by Infinite Jest.  No idea in what way
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: libstradamus on February 11, 2014, 04:02:48 AM
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Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Pete on February 16, 2014, 12:14:16 PM
Also once you finish I will tell you my biggest gripe with the books and it's Logen related.  Got right in my craw after the fact.

FINISHED!  What was your gripe?
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Pete on February 16, 2014, 04:58:45 PM
 :impatient:
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: CNS on February 16, 2014, 05:24:53 PM
Also once you finish I will tell you my biggest gripe with the books and it's Logen related.  Got right in my craw after the fact.

FINISHED!  What was your gripe?
Hold off for a couple days.  About 60% through book three.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Pete on February 16, 2014, 05:27:20 PM
Also once you finish I will tell you my biggest gripe with the books and it's Logen related.  Got right in my craw after the fact.

FINISHED!  What was your gripe?
Hold off for a couple days.  About 60% through book three.

OK  :thumbs:
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Chingon on February 16, 2014, 06:54:40 PM
Read 2666, whew that was an experience.  Pretty great imo, the scope was so huge.

Thinking about reading this next. Have you read Savage Detectives?
Nope, its going to happen pretty soon.  Have you? 

Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk

Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: michigancat on February 16, 2014, 07:09:12 PM
I got a paperwhite for Valentine's day and am gonna read 2666 first.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: steve dave on February 16, 2014, 07:09:30 PM
:thumbs:
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: michigancat on February 16, 2014, 07:25:37 PM
Also, started reading a George Saunders short stories collection and holy crap he's good.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Pete on February 21, 2014, 12:50:10 PM
Also once you finish I will tell you my biggest gripe with the books and it's Logen related.  Got right in my craw after the fact.

FINISHED!  What was your gripe?
Hold off for a couple days.  About 60% through book three.

 :impatient:
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Mr Bread on February 21, 2014, 01:15:49 PM
Also once you finish I will tell you my biggest gripe with the books and it's Logen related.  Got right in my craw after the fact.

FINISHED!  What was your gripe?
Hold off for a couple days.  About 60% through book three.

 :impatient:

Sorry missed it.  Okay, so Logen's this off/on mass murdering bloodlusting psychopath guy and that's how he's become this great warrior and won the big-time duels.  EXCEPT he let all those other big-time fuckers live during/after ALL their duels.  No.  He kills his friends and random children during battle and spares people he's dueling with?  Nonsense imo.  Nothing we were shown suggests he would have or even could have stopped.  Like maybe once he could zone back in at the end or whatever, but not for all of them.  It's not much, but that's it. 
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: CNS on February 21, 2014, 01:16:32 PM
Yeah, just go on without me guys.  I have had zero time to read the last three days.  Still got like 20% left. 

I just won't open this thread until finished.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: CNS on February 23, 2014, 03:36:09 PM
Just finished.  Decent books
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Pete on February 23, 2014, 05:06:55 PM
Just finished.  Decent books

I liked Patrick Rothfuss' unfinished series better (the first one is called Name of the Wind). But, I did enjoy reading this series too.  I started his next stand alone book and am enjoying it so far.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: CNS on February 23, 2014, 08:59:28 PM
Just finished.  Decent books

I liked Patrick Rothfuss' unfinished series better (the first one is called Name of the Wind). But, I did enjoy reading this series too.  I started his next stand alone book and am enjoying it so far.

I will probably read those too, but am going to move on to something else for now.  Time for a genere change for the next book or two.  Might try that Blood and Thunder one or The Cuckoo's Calling.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on February 24, 2014, 08:02:36 AM
I just started reading The Cuckoo's Calling. Not very far into it yet.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on February 25, 2014, 03:06:34 PM
just started reading The System: The Glory and Scandal of Big-Time College Football.  Pretty awesome behind the scenes look at college football.

Never knew the Pirate's backstory....makes me respect him more now.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: michigancat on February 25, 2014, 03:13:41 PM
I finally started making a list of all the books I'm finishing this year. Here's what I've knocked out:

1491
Infinite Jest (Obviously started last year)
This Town
The Crying of Lot 49
Signal and the Noise
Persuasion Nation
The Orphan Master's Son

Currently on "The Invisible Gorilla", which is more or less about the limits the human brain has paying attention. Also reading 2666.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: ben ji on February 25, 2014, 03:54:35 PM
I finally started making a list of all the books I'm finishing this year. Here's what I've knocked out:

1491
Infinite Jest (Obviously started last year)
This Town
The Crying of Lot 49
Signal and the Noise
Persuasion Nation
The Orphan Master's Son

Currently on "The Invisible Gorilla", which is more or less about the limits the human brain has paying attention. Also reading 2666.

Read that and just finished 1493, thought 1493 was even better.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: michigancat on February 25, 2014, 04:10:27 PM
good to know! Will put it on my list.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Spracne on February 25, 2014, 04:19:42 PM
Looking for interesting non-fiction works like Freakonomics or anything by Gladwell.  Bonus points for economists or statisticians who write in plain American. TIA.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: michigancat on February 25, 2014, 04:22:38 PM
Looking for interesting non-fiction works like Freakonomics or anything by Gladwell.  Bonus points for economists or statisticians who write in plain American. TIA.

Signal and the Noise by Nate Silver. He actually kind of mocks Gladwell at one point (justifiably so).
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Spracne on February 25, 2014, 04:25:26 PM
Looking for interesting non-fiction works like Freakonomics or anything by Gladwell.  Bonus points for economists or statisticians who write in plain American. TIA.

Signal and the Noise by Nate Silver.

When I hear the noise "Nate Silver,"  my brain receives a signal that suggests politics, and I'm not looking for that.  Am I wrong?  Also, I saw that suggestion above and thought it was a Faulkner novel...
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: michigancat on February 25, 2014, 04:45:39 PM
Looking for interesting non-fiction works like Freakonomics or anything by Gladwell.  Bonus points for economists or statisticians who write in plain American. TIA.

Signal and the Noise by Nate Silver.

When I hear the noise "Nate Silver,"  my brain receives a signal that suggests politics, and I'm not looking for that.  Am I wrong?  Also, I saw that suggestion above and thought it was a Faulkner novel...

There's not much in there about politics. He actually talks a lot about how poor economists are at forecasting the economy (and why). Also how we can use data to assign odds to things like earthquakes and terrorism, and has a long chapter devoted to sports and another devoted to poker. Did you know he developed PECOTA? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PECOTA
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Pete on February 25, 2014, 06:28:45 PM
Looking for interesting non-fiction works like Freakonomics or anything by Gladwell.  Bonus points for economists or statisticians who write in plain American. TIA.

If you have any connection with KC you might enjoy "The Mafia and the Machine."  It's a history of the mob in KC, and their relationship with politics in the area.  Very interesting stuff.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: CNS on February 25, 2014, 06:52:49 PM
Looking for interesting non-fiction works like Freakonomics or anything by Gladwell.  Bonus points for economists or statisticians who write in plain American. TIA.

If you have any connection with KC you might enjoy "The Mafia and the Machine."  It's a history of the mob in KC, and their relationship with politics in the area.  Very interesting stuff.

I DL'ed this about six mo ago and just haven't been in the mood for non fiction since.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Spracne on February 25, 2014, 07:23:43 PM
Not much of a KC connection, tho
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: TheHamburglar on March 06, 2014, 09:20:19 AM
Not sure if this the right place to put this.

http://elitedaily.com/news/technology/this-insane-new-app-will-allow-you-to-read-novels-in-under-90-minutes/ (http://elitedaily.com/news/technology/this-insane-new-app-will-allow-you-to-read-novels-in-under-90-minutes/)
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: The_Wippuh on March 06, 2014, 11:54:53 AM
Looking for interesting non-fiction works like Freakonomics or anything by Gladwell.  Bonus points for economists or statisticians who write in plain American. TIA.

Naked Economics, wonderful book.  Economics in plain English.  As a bonus, he just put out a book in the same style on statistics.  It's good too.

I liked Patrick Rothfuss' unfinished series better (the first one is called Name of the Wind). But, I did enjoy reading this series too.  I started his next stand alone book and am enjoying it so far.

Some of the best stuff I've read in a long time when it comes to epic fantasy.  Pretty easy to see two trilogies that will form the entire story and it will kick so much ass.  Waiting between the books, as Rothfuss is on Jordan/Martin time, will not be so much fun.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: michigancat on March 06, 2014, 11:58:25 AM
Not sure if this the right place to put this.

http://elitedaily.com/news/technology/this-insane-new-app-will-allow-you-to-read-novels-in-under-90-minutes/ (http://elitedaily.com/news/technology/this-insane-new-app-will-allow-you-to-read-novels-in-under-90-minutes/)

Hmm, I'd have to see actual scientific studies about how comprehension compares, but that seems awesome.
Title: Anyone Reading Brandon Sanderson's New Book?
Post by: The_Wippuh on March 06, 2014, 11:59:56 AM
Called Words of Radiance, book 2 of The Stormlight Archives.

I cannot decide if I hate it or love it and would love to discuss it with others.  It's his attempt at a huge fantasy series and some stuff is already really bugging me about it.
Title: Re: Anyone Reading Brandon Sanderson's New Book?
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on March 06, 2014, 12:01:28 PM
im reading. whats your favorite chapter? mines 6.
Title: Re: Anyone Reading Brandon Sanderson's New Book?
Post by: The_Wippuh on March 06, 2014, 12:02:48 PM
I celebrate all of the chapters.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Spracne on March 06, 2014, 12:09:09 PM
Looking for interesting non-fiction works like Freakonomics or anything by Gladwell.  Bonus points for economists or statisticians who write in plain American. TIA.

Naked Economics, wonderful book.  Economics in plain English.  As a bonus, he just put out a book in the same style on statistics.  It's good too.

I liked Patrick Rothfuss' unfinished series better (the first one is called Name of the Wind). But, I did enjoy reading this series too.  I started his next stand alone book and am enjoying it so far.

Some of the best stuff I've read in a long time when it comes to epic fantasy.  Pretty easy to see two trilogies that will form the entire story and it will kick so much ass.  Waiting between the books, as Rothfuss is on Jordan/Martin time, will not be so much fun.

Thanks, Wippuh.  Sounds like a really great suggestiono.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: slucat on March 10, 2014, 09:04:12 AM
Just finished Serena, it was pretty good, hard to put down.
It was made into a film with Bradley Cooper and JLaw.   :love:
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Tobias on March 14, 2014, 10:19:52 PM
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Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: The_Wippuh on March 20, 2014, 12:49:55 PM
Halfway through Daemon by D. Saurez and am liking it.  If you're a video game nerd at all, and liked stuff like Ready Player One, you'll like this. 
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Asteriskhead on March 20, 2014, 12:52:42 PM
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/03/15/6yzedy8u.jpg)

I'm insanely jealous.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: michigancat on March 25, 2014, 02:23:51 PM
I tried to read this:

http://www.amazon.com/On-Looking-Eleven-Walks-Expert-ebook/product-reviews/B008J4N5ZQ/ref=dp_top_cm_cr_acr_txt?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=1

And oh my god I hated the way she wrote. She does this thing where for the intro every chapter she quotes herself in italics. I definitely quit early.

Also, 2666 is SO GOOD. Thanks again, chings.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Spracne on March 25, 2014, 02:26:51 PM
Does the fact that I don't generally like reading books written by women reflect poorly on me?
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on March 25, 2014, 02:43:56 PM
Does the fact that I don't generally like reading books written by women reflect poorly on me?

Do you not like books written by women or just books written from a female's POV?
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Spracne on March 25, 2014, 02:49:28 PM
Does the fact that I don't generally like reading books written by women reflect poorly on me?

Do you not like books written by women or just books written from a female's POV?

It should be noted I generally don't read fiction, so it's difficult to draw the distinction.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Boom Roasted on March 26, 2014, 05:03:08 AM
Read The Meat Racket recently. Pretty good non-fiction running through the history of Tyson and the way the protein industry operates in America. Has a bit of a left lean but he doesn't get as political or attacking as some of the articles I read about it before reading.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: CNS on March 26, 2014, 07:12:02 AM
I read More Bears w my son last night.   Just fantastic.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: slucat on March 26, 2014, 08:58:06 AM
I read More Bears w my son last night.   Just fantastic.

skippyjon is where its at.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: michigancat on March 26, 2014, 09:42:41 AM
I read More Bears w my son last night.   Just fantastic.

skippyjon is where its at.

borderline racist imo
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Kat Kid on March 26, 2014, 10:13:38 AM
The Assassination of Julius Caesar is really good.  It is a revisionist history of the late Roman republic, why Julius Caesar was assassinated and why the Republic failed.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: CNS on March 26, 2014, 02:54:28 PM
I read More Bears w my son last night.   Just fantastic.

skippyjon is where its at.

borderline racist imo

Yeah, I can see that.  More Bears, tho  :love:
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Skipper44 on March 26, 2014, 03:36:16 PM
I read More Bears w my son last night.   Just fantastic.

skippyjon is where its at.

borderline racist imo
I wanted to murder the author of the Junie B. Jones books when my kid couldn't get enough them and then she actually died  :frown:
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: CNS on March 26, 2014, 03:46:45 PM
I read More Bears w my son last night.   Just fantastic.

skippyjon is where its at.

borderline racist imo
I wanted to murder the author of the Junie B. Jones books when my kid couldn't get enough them and then she actually died  :frown:

How do you feel about oscar?
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Emo EMAW on March 27, 2014, 09:46:30 AM
The Assassination of Julius Caesar is really good.  It is a revisionist history of the late Roman republic, why Julius Caesar was assassinated and why the Republic failed.

Verdict?
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Emo EMAW on March 27, 2014, 09:51:01 AM
I stayed up last night past 3 finishing Lone Survivor.  Which is pretty late for me, normally a 1030 or 11pm kinda guy.  Anyway it was a good read and I would recommend to people who like military works.  These guys are/were tougher than crap.  Tough to really imagine, and I'm somewhat left wondering how much is exaggerated or flat out false, because he was the only one who lived to tell about it.  I do wish it had more in the way of maps, photographs, etc, but I'm sure it wasn't really supposed to be a book like that.  I read it on Kindle, so I'm surprised there wasn't an Afterword II that told of Lutrell's murder. 
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: The_Wippuh on March 27, 2014, 09:58:52 AM
Just finished Daemon and Freedom TM from Daniel Suarez.

If you're into video games, this two book series is for you.  Think of an evil John Carmack trying to take over the world, from beyond the grave, through World of Warcraft.  On top of that, the books make it very believable.  You can see this type of incident happening and the book will take you on an emotional free fall.

The characters are a little flat, not much to really grow with and care about, but the story itself grabs you through that aforementioned emotion.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Kat Kid on March 27, 2014, 10:17:23 AM

The Assassination of Julius Caesar is really good.  It is a revisionist history of the late Roman republic, why Julius Caesar was assassinated and why the Republic failed.

Verdict?

Basically says the oligarchs of the senate were threatened by Caesars ability to appeal to the masses and foster real reforms (land, tax, property, expansion of citizens rights) that would upset the power structure of the elites.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Emo EMAW on March 27, 2014, 10:20:08 AM
I meant more why did the republic fail...Ceasar was dead long before the republic failed so I see them as unrelated.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on March 27, 2014, 10:29:20 AM
I meant more why did the republic fail...Ceasar was dead long before the republic failed so I see them as unrelated.

Rome wasn't a republic when it fell, so that may be what is causing the confusion.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Skipper44 on March 27, 2014, 11:05:27 AM
I read More Bears w my son last night.   Just fantastic.

skippyjon is where its at.

borderline racist imo
I wanted to murder the author of the Junie B. Jones books when my kid couldn't get enough them and then she actually died  :frown:

How do you feel about oscar?
He is very lucky Foster is a total badass
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: asava on March 27, 2014, 11:30:48 AM
I read More Bears w my son last night.   Just fantastic.

skippyjon is where its at.

borderline racist imo
I wanted to murder the author of the Junie B. Jones books when my kid couldn't get enough them and then she actually died  :frown:

How do you feel about oscar?
He is very lucky Foster is a total badass

Truth.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: michigancat on March 27, 2014, 11:34:41 AM
Wait, Junie B. Jones dies? :sdeek:
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on March 27, 2014, 11:47:44 AM
I read More Bears w my son last night.   Just fantastic.

skippyjon is where its at.

borderline racist imo

i would maybe even take out the borderline. put that aside and i still think sjj books are garbage. not a fan.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Kat Kid on March 27, 2014, 12:15:32 PM

I meant more why did the republic fail...Ceasar was dead long before the republic failed so I see them as unrelated.

Rome wasn't a republic when it fell, so that may be what is causing the confusion.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: slucat on March 27, 2014, 01:45:38 PM
I read More Bears w my son last night.   Just fantastic.

skippyjon is where its at.

borderline racist imo

i would maybe even take out the borderline. put that aside and i still think sjj books are garbage. not a fan.

I like that they are imaginative and fun to read aloud...didn't really think about the "racist" aspect...
Maybe I can redeem myself (or my son) with frequent readings of Curious George?
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Emo EMAW on March 27, 2014, 01:46:20 PM
I stayed up last night past 3 finishing Lone Survivor.  Which is pretty late for me, normally a 1030 or 11pm kinda guy.  Anyway it was a good read and I would recommend to people who like military works.  These guys are/were tougher than crap.  Tough to really imagine, and I'm somewhat left wondering how much is exaggerated or flat out false, because he was the only one who lived to tell about it.  I do wish it had more in the way of maps, photographs, etc, but I'm sure it wasn't really supposed to be a book like that.  I read it on Kindle, so I'm surprised there wasn't an Afterword II that told of Lutrell's murder.

After thinking about this book over lunch, I have decided it is fiction.  It's not a biography, not a non-fiction piece at all. 
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Pete on March 30, 2014, 08:19:22 PM
I am going to read this



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Actually, I will probably get it on audio.  I like to listen to non-fiction on Audio when I do other stuff.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on March 30, 2014, 08:27:33 PM
I stayed up last night past 3 finishing Lone Survivor.  Which is pretty late for me, normally a 1030 or 11pm kinda guy.  Anyway it was a good read and I would recommend to people who like military works.  These guys are/were tougher than crap.  Tough to really imagine, and I'm somewhat left wondering how much is exaggerated or flat out false, because he was the only one who lived to tell about it.  I do wish it had more in the way of maps, photographs, etc, but I'm sure it wasn't really supposed to be a book like that.  I read it on Kindle, so I'm surprised there wasn't an Afterword II that told of Lutrell's murder.

After thinking about this book over lunch, I have decided it is fiction.  It's not a biography, not a non-fiction piece at all.

I think you've got some books confused.   Chris Kyle (American Sniper) was the one murdered.  Luttrell is alive an well.

The book reads as fiction largely because the ghost writer was a fiction author.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Emo EMAW on March 30, 2014, 08:36:52 PM
Youre right about Kyle.  Although the book reads as fiction because the facts are not facts at all.

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Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: steve dave on March 30, 2014, 08:38:44 PM

I am going to read this



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Actually, I will probably get it on audio.  I like to listen to non-fiction on Audio when I do other stuff.

Saw that tonight. Looks very good.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: j rake on April 06, 2014, 02:16:22 PM
i tend to overrate things (movies, songs and books) in the moment, but i just finished Pat Summitt's autobiography, "Sum It Up," and it is without question the single-most inspiring coach book that i have ever, ever read. it's easily a top 5 all-time book for me. i'm not kidding, the book has and will change my life and the way i approach a lot of things, especially work.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: sys on April 06, 2014, 02:42:38 PM
the book has and will change my life and the way i approach a lot of things.

thank god someone was finally able to get through to you.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Spracne on April 06, 2014, 03:16:48 PM
i tend to overrate things (movies, songs and books) in the moment, but i just finished ...

Stopped reading here.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: j rake on April 06, 2014, 03:32:17 PM
i tend to overrate things (movies, songs and books) in the moment, but i just finished ...

Stopped reading here.

liar.  :fatty:
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Spracne on May 12, 2014, 07:49:27 PM
Just ordered The Signal and the Noise, Naked Statistics, and the first GoT book  :sdeek:  Need to stock up on material for my vacay.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: puniraptor on May 13, 2014, 08:04:51 AM
Just ordered The Signal and the Noise, Naked Statistics, and the first GoT book  :sdeek:  Need to stock up on material for my vacay.

Sorry about your prison sentence, spracs. Use this time to better yourself and it can be a positive experience. Just keep your head down.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: mocat on May 13, 2014, 08:17:33 AM
Just ordered the first GoT book  :sdeek: 

you just want to find out who littlefinger is don't you
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Spracne on May 13, 2014, 09:37:19 AM
Just ordered the first GoT book  :sdeek: 

you just want to find out who littlefinger is don't you

I just want to be one of the cool un-cool kids.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: CNS on May 13, 2014, 11:59:29 AM
I read Anthony Bourdain's Kitchen Confidential over my vacation.  It read quick and I was interested in it was basically half cool stuff and half him repeating how his kitchen coworkers are a bunch of misfits and outsiders over and over and over and over and over. 

Still worth the read, though, if you like to cook.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Pete on May 26, 2014, 05:16:35 PM


Yeah, I like Glokta and Logen once you figure out why/how he's as great a warrior as he is.  I liked the little mythology he created as well and how he only gives you just a taste and leaves you wanting so much more.  Makes for some motivated reading, at least it did for me.   I love back story though.   Complete sucker for it.  I also like the backdrop of all the political intrigue, betrayals and power grabbing.  Fun climate for a story.  Keeps you guessing right along with the main characters.

Started Abercrombie's third book in the series this weekend....really, really enjoying this series.  I don't know what I'll do when this one is done, have nothing in my on-deck circle.   :frown:

He has three more.  Best Served Cold, The Heroes and Red Country (in order).  They follow the original three.  Some lesser characters with expanded roles (e.g., Shivers, Cosca, Gorst, Calder) and of course new characters and settings.  The Heroes might have been my favorite out of all his books.  Best Served Cold is solid.  Red Country is his worst book imo.

Finished Best Served Cold.  I agree, would call it "solid."  Going to start the Heroes.  After that, I may skip Red Country and read his new one called "Half a King," based on your comments.


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Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on May 27, 2014, 08:49:33 AM
I read Anthony Bourdain's Kitchen Confidential over my vacation.  It read quick and I was interested in it was basically half cool stuff and half him repeating how his kitchen coworkers are a bunch of misfits and outsiders over and over and over and over and over. 

Still worth the read, though, if you like to cook.

his fiction isn't half bad either.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: chum1 on May 27, 2014, 09:40:33 AM
I read Anthony Bourdain's Kitchen Confidential over my vacation.  It read quick and I was interested in it was basically half cool stuff and half him repeating how his kitchen coworkers are a bunch of misfits and outsiders over and over and over and over and over. 

Still worth the read, though, if you like to cook.

his fiction isn't half bad either.

I am looking for a good food book.  I'll probably just finally read kitchen confidential.  There is some reluctant chef book that amazon keeps pushing though that it may just sell me on.

Bourdain's fiction isn't bad either...
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: michigancat on May 27, 2014, 09:42:15 AM
ha
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: puniraptor on May 27, 2014, 09:55:16 AM
WHICH IS IT, MIKEY????????

i would be pissed as hell if i started out to read a work of fiction that wasn't bad, only to discover that it was actually half bad all along.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Brock Landers on May 27, 2014, 03:37:49 PM
Started reading Console Wars over the weekend

It's a behind the scenes look at how Sega took on Nintendo in the early 90's.  Pretty quick read so far.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: michigancat on May 30, 2014, 02:41:44 PM
Just read "Embers of War" about Vietnam from about WWI to the start of the war with the US. Christ, it was like banging your head against the wall.  Lots of focus on Eisenhower administration painted themselves into a corner regarding the dangers of Communism at home politically and led to so many terrible, stupid decisions in Vietnam after the French left. Pretty sad, really.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: SkinnyBenny on May 31, 2014, 07:46:16 PM
Who has read Infinite Jest? Is it worth the 1000+ pages?
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: CNS on May 31, 2014, 08:24:43 PM
Who has read Infinite Jest? Is it worth the 1000+ pages?

I am 6% through.   Just picked it back up after waiting a year or so since starting it.  I like it, but need time to get through it.  It doesn't flow easy so far.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: kim carnes on May 31, 2014, 09:49:43 PM
reading is for idiots imo
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: kim carnes on May 31, 2014, 09:51:50 PM
but to each his own and all that
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on June 03, 2014, 02:53:12 PM
Who has read Infinite Jest? Is it worth the 1000+ pages?

based on the first 150 +\- pages I've read twice now, NO.  I just can't do it.   This in the Year of the Depend Undergarments.   :goodbyecruelworld:
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: michigancat on June 03, 2014, 02:58:43 PM
I've posted several times that it's my favorite book. IIRC it takes about 250 pages before things start to make sense and take hold of most people.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: KSUblumpkin on June 03, 2014, 03:04:23 PM
Last night I finished Ready Player One.  Really interesting book to read.  It creates an extremely vivid online world and is quite dense with 80s references.  I'm probably a little too old for the targeted crowd, but had a blast reading it.  Worth a read if anyone was on the fence about it.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: ew2x4 on June 03, 2014, 03:17:29 PM
Last night I finished Ready Player One.  Really interesting book to read.  It creates an extremely vivid online world with and is dense with 80s references.  I'm probably a little too old for the targeted crowd, but had a blast reading it.  Worth a read if anyone was on the fence about it.

Agreed. Really fun book.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on June 03, 2014, 03:21:46 PM
Last night I finished Ready Player One.  Really interesting book to read.  It creates an extremely vivid online world with and is dense with 80s references.  I'm probably a little too old for the targeted crowd, but had a blast reading it.  Worth a read if anyone was on the fence about it.

Daemon and the sequel are also pretty decent and somewhat similar.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: bubbles4ksu on June 03, 2014, 05:25:27 PM
I've posted several times that it's my favorite book. IIRC it takes about 250 pages before things start to make sense and take hold of most people.
how much does its length have to do with how much you like it?
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: michigancat on June 03, 2014, 05:37:56 PM
I've posted several times that it's my favorite book. IIRC it takes about 250 pages before things start to make sense and take hold of most people.
how much does its length have to do with how much you like it?

Not sure exactly what this question means, but the length enables Wallace to create a lot of fantastic character and setting development.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: bubbles4ksu on June 03, 2014, 06:28:22 PM
I've posted several times that it's my favorite book. IIRC it takes about 250 pages before things start to make sense and take hold of most people.
how much does its length have to do with how much you like it?

Not sure exactly what this question means, but the length enables Wallace to create a lot of fantastic character and setting development.
primarily, i was asking how the length helped character and setting development. but i was also asking if knowing that you completed a difficult read added much to your opinion of the book. both questions are serious and not intended to be rude. i ask the second one because i ask it to myself about a lot of literature.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Mr Bread on June 03, 2014, 06:37:00 PM
Last night I finished Ready Player One.  Really interesting book to read.  It creates an extremely vivid online world with and is dense with 80s references.  I'm probably a little too old for the targeted crowd, but had a blast reading it.  Worth a read if anyone was on the fence about it.

Daemon and the sequel are also pretty decent and somewhat similar.

The_Wippuh recommends all three of these as well. 
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: michigancat on June 03, 2014, 06:40:45 PM
I've posted several times that it's my favorite book. IIRC it takes about 250 pages before things start to make sense and take hold of most people.
how much does its length have to do with how much you like it?

Not sure exactly what this question means, but the length enables Wallace to create a lot of fantastic character and setting development.
primarily, i was asking how the length helped character and setting development. but i was also asking if knowing that you completed a difficult read added much to your opinion of the book. both questions are serious and not intended to be rude. i ask the second one because i ask it to myself about a lot of literature.

It just creates massive amounts of detail. Some of it probably isn't necessary, but I think some of the more difficult portions makes you appreciate the great passages more than I you would if they were on their own. And when you consider the main storyline, it's pretty amazing.

I was about halfway through when I realized it was my favorite book, so it wasn't like the "length" by itself really added to my enjoyment.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Spracne on June 03, 2014, 08:09:56 PM
I've posted several times that it's my favorite book. IIRC it takes about 250 pages before things start to make sense and take hold of most people.
how much does its length have to do with how much you like it?

Bubbles NO!  :sdeek:
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: puniraptor on June 03, 2014, 08:37:53 PM
I've posted several times that it's my favorite book. IIRC it takes about 250 pages before things start to make sense and take hold of most people.
how much does its length have to do with how much you like it?

Bubbles NO!  :sdeek:

Of course in the context of a book, length and girth are directly proportional.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: bubbles4ksu on June 03, 2014, 08:47:49 PM
I've posted several times that it's my favorite book. IIRC it takes about 250 pages before things start to make sense and take hold of most people.
how much does its length have to do with how much you like it?

Not sure exactly what this question means, but the length enables Wallace to create a lot of fantastic character and setting development.
primarily, i was asking how the length helped character and setting development. but i was also asking if knowing that you completed a difficult read added much to your opinion of the book. both questions are serious and not intended to be rude. i ask the second one because i ask it to myself about a lot of literature.

It just creates massive amounts of detail. Some of it probably isn't necessary, but I think some of the more difficult portions makes you appreciate the great passages more than I you would if they were on their own. And when you consider the main storyline, it's pretty amazing.

I was about halfway through when I realized it was my favorite book, so it wasn't like the "length" by itself really added to my enjoyment.
makes sense. i'd like to read it, but i don't have the attention span for a long intro. i frequently take long drives so i looked into an audiobook version....59 hours without any of the 386 footnotes which apparently are very important.  :horrorsurprise:
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on June 04, 2014, 08:39:33 AM
I've posted several times that it's my favorite book. IIRC it takes about 250 pages before things start to make sense and take hold of most people.
how much does its length have to do with how much you like it?

Not sure exactly what this question means, but the length enables Wallace to create a lot of fantastic character and setting development.
primarily, i was asking how the length helped character and setting development. but i was also asking if knowing that you completed a difficult read added much to your opinion of the book. both questions are serious and not intended to be rude. i ask the second one because i ask it to myself about a lot of literature.

It just creates massive amounts of detail. Some of it probably isn't necessary, but I think some of the more difficult portions makes you appreciate the great passages more than I you would if they were on their own. And when you consider the main storyline, it's pretty amazing.

I was about halfway through when I realized it was my favorite book, so it wasn't like the "length" by itself really added to my enjoyment.
makes sense. i'd like to read it, but i don't have the attention span for a long intro. i frequently take long drives so i looked into an audiobook version....59 hours without any of the 386 footnotes which apparently are very important.  :horrorsurprise:

one footnote is a 17pg fimography of a dead character (so I read).
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: michigancat on June 04, 2014, 10:34:07 AM
I've posted several times that it's my favorite book. IIRC it takes about 250 pages before things start to make sense and take hold of most people.
how much does its length have to do with how much you like it?

Not sure exactly what this question means, but the length enables Wallace to create a lot of fantastic character and setting development.
primarily, i was asking how the length helped character and setting development. but i was also asking if knowing that you completed a difficult read added much to your opinion of the book. both questions are serious and not intended to be rude. i ask the second one because i ask it to myself about a lot of literature.

It just creates massive amounts of detail. Some of it probably isn't necessary, but I think some of the more difficult portions makes you appreciate the great passages more than I you would if they were on their own. And when you consider the main storyline, it's pretty amazing.

I was about halfway through when I realized it was my favorite book, so it wasn't like the "length" by itself really added to my enjoyment.
makes sense. i'd like to read it, but i don't have the attention span for a long intro. i frequently take long drives so i looked into an audiobook version....59 hours without any of the 386 footnotes which apparently are very important.  :horrorsurprise:

one footnote is a 17pg fimography of a dead character (so I read).

It has lots of clues and it's really pretty funny.

Bottom line though, if you don't want to read it, don't read it. Personally, I could have easily started reading again immediately after I finished.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: 8manpick on June 04, 2014, 01:25:23 PM
About halfway through  Klosterman's "I Wear the Black Hat" on audiobook. Pretty interesting, and I like audiobooks read by the author.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: KCFDcat on June 04, 2014, 02:54:09 PM
Read two books recently I found very enjoyable. Don't know what you guys are into as I've never been in this thread before.

Adam Resnick's "Will Not Attend" is pretty great if you want an easy fun rea. Just a bunch of short stories about how much he hates people. Very funny.

"The Boys in the Boat" by Daniel James Brown is about the 1936 USA Olympic rowing team. Pretty great. Focuses a lot on the depression and Nazi's. Pretty entertaining, if you like that sorta stuff.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: ksupamplemousse on June 04, 2014, 03:01:56 PM
I've posted several times that it's my favorite book. IIRC it takes about 250 pages before things start to make sense and take hold of most people.
how much does its length have to do with how much you like it?

Not sure exactly what this question means, but the length enables Wallace to create a lot of fantastic character and setting development.
primarily, i was asking how the length helped character and setting development. but i was also asking if knowing that you completed a difficult read added much to your opinion of the book. both questions are serious and not intended to be rude. i ask the second one because i ask it to myself about a lot of literature.

It just creates massive amounts of detail. Some of it probably isn't necessary, but I think some of the more difficult portions makes you appreciate the great passages more than I you would if they were on their own. And when you consider the main storyline, it's pretty amazing.

I was about halfway through when I realized it was my favorite book, so it wasn't like the "length" by itself really added to my enjoyment.
makes sense. i'd like to read it, but i don't have the attention span for a long intro. i frequently take long drives so i looked into an audiobook version....59 hours without any of the 386 footnotes which apparently are very important.  :horrorsurprise:

I made it through a couple hundred pages on my kindle before I realized that the footnotes are pretty important and that I need to pick up a physical copy  :facepalm:
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: michigancat on June 04, 2014, 03:16:41 PM
I've posted several times that it's my favorite book. IIRC it takes about 250 pages before things start to make sense and take hold of most people.
how much does its length have to do with how much you like it?

Not sure exactly what this question means, but the length enables Wallace to create a lot of fantastic character and setting development.
primarily, i was asking how the length helped character and setting development. but i was also asking if knowing that you completed a difficult read added much to your opinion of the book. both questions are serious and not intended to be rude. i ask the second one because i ask it to myself about a lot of literature.

It just creates massive amounts of detail. Some of it probably isn't necessary, but I think some of the more difficult portions makes you appreciate the great passages more than I you would if they were on their own. And when you consider the main storyline, it's pretty amazing.

I was about halfway through when I realized it was my favorite book, so it wasn't like the "length" by itself really added to my enjoyment.
makes sense. i'd like to read it, but i don't have the attention span for a long intro. i frequently take long drives so i looked into an audiobook version....59 hours without any of the 386 footnotes which apparently are very important.  :horrorsurprise:

I made it through a couple hundred pages on my kindle before I realized that the footnotes are pretty important and that I need to pick up a physical copy  :facepalm:

can't you read the footnotes on a kindle?
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: CNS on June 04, 2014, 03:25:41 PM
Footnotes on kindles are a pain in the ass.  They link you back but sometimes slips up and marks the footnote as the "furthest read" point and syncs that.  Once it does that, trying to bounce between the page you are actually reading and future footnotes can be a pain.  I have read books where it does it without problem, but others have been horrible about it.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: ksupamplemousse on June 04, 2014, 03:26:21 PM
I've posted several times that it's my favorite book. IIRC it takes about 250 pages before things start to make sense and take hold of most people.
how much does its length have to do with how much you like it?

Not sure exactly what this question means, but the length enables Wallace to create a lot of fantastic character and setting development.
primarily, i was asking how the length helped character and setting development. but i was also asking if knowing that you completed a difficult read added much to your opinion of the book. both questions are serious and not intended to be rude. i ask the second one because i ask it to myself about a lot of literature.

It just creates massive amounts of detail. Some of it probably isn't necessary, but I think some of the more difficult portions makes you appreciate the great passages more than I you would if they were on their own. And when you consider the main storyline, it's pretty amazing.

I was about halfway through when I realized it was my favorite book, so it wasn't like the "length" by itself really added to my enjoyment.
makes sense. i'd like to read it, but i don't have the attention span for a long intro. i frequently take long drives so i looked into an audiobook version....59 hours without any of the 386 footnotes which apparently are very important.  :horrorsurprise:

I made it through a couple hundred pages on my kindle before I realized that the footnotes are pretty important and that I need to pick up a physical copy  :facepalm:

can't you read the footnotes on a kindle?

It's a laborious process, relatively. Also, the function is riddled with glitches like CNS said.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: SkinnyBenny on June 04, 2014, 04:00:19 PM
Well I guess I'll just haul around the 9-pound book then.  :fistpump:

I'll probably give it a try. I mean I have a little time here over the next few weeks so maybe I can knock it out. I am currently reading Adam Carolla's Not Taco Bell Material and some of these stories are legit LOL funny.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Asteriskhead on June 04, 2014, 04:09:49 PM
I'm through the first two chapters of The Bully Pulpit and I am really enjoying it so far.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: SkinnyBenny on June 04, 2014, 04:24:00 PM
Wow. Here's a fairly insightful review on the book from Amazon, and after reading the whole review I STILL don't know if I wanna pick it up. BTW I am super anal and even if I don't like a book, once I've started it, I have to finish. It's awful. Hence my hesitation.

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I feel like there's been so much written about this book, that it almost seems impossible to try to add anything new to this discussion. However, I will try to lay out reasons to buy/not buy this book as well as a few things people might want to know before jumping into this kind of commitment. INFINITE JEST isn't for everyone, and I don't mean that in a condescending or patronizing way: it will certainly appeal to some people's sensibilities much more than others.

###Here's What You Need to Know###
David Foster Wallace's INFINITE JEST is a postmodern novel with a premodern message. Wallace, who railed against irony, wanted to be sincere in his writing. So while this book does contain many postmodern conventions, its ideas about humanity aren't postmodern at all. I think many people were disappointed that the book is "about addiction, and that's all you need to know," but there is much more to this book, and there's much more that Wallace has to say. Some of these messages are delivered with a heavy hand, and that's fine: Wallace wanted to be sincere, and he wouldn't want to dull his insights by distancing himself from them via irony or whatever else.

This book is indeed incredibly long. INFINITE JEST is notoriously known for being a long book - it's just shy of 1100 pages. Stephen King's THE STAND (uncut edition) and George R.R. Martin's STORM OF SWORDS are longer this, but I was able to clear those books much quicker than David Foster Wallace's second novel. I'm a very slow reader, and I was able to read INFINITE JEST in about two months, without taking into account the time I spent reading two shorter novels by different authors.

This book is indeed incredibly verbose. As a way to rage against the rising popularity of minimalist writing in the 1980's, Wallace found himself moving towards a brand of writing that captured everything: every thought, every action, every detail. His maximalist writing can be hard to get through at time: there's an extended passage detailing a tennis academy's design that seems to go on forever. The discussion of an invented game that involves intermediate calculus to keep score reaches across dozens of pages. Wallace sought to capture everything.

Everything you heard about the endnotes is true. The narration of the book is frequented interrupted with endnotes (different from footnotes), some of which span a dozen pages and contain their own endnotes. These asides are not optional: plot details are frequently hinted at or exposed in these interludes.

READ THIS ON KINDLE IF YOU CAN. I want to stress this point: reading INFINITE JEST is much easier on an eReader for a few reasons. With Kindle, the hassle of flipping back to the endnotes is a burden made much lighter. Each note is hyperlinked to its corresponding section to the back. It's also really easy to highlight, bookmark, make notes of certain areas to revisit if you need. Some important plot elements are given only once in passing, so marking these areas is helpful, and Kindle makes the task really simple. The weight of this mammoth book is also erased with the electronic copy. There are two complaints about the Kindle version however: 1) it's not a real book, and I prefer handling most books (I think we all kind of do, right?) and 2) if you close the eReader while you are in the endnotes, your Kindle will recognize that page as being the further point you've read to. Remedying this situation isn't hard; you'll just need to log onto Amazon and clear your furthest-page-read, but it is a bit annoying.

###Here's Why You Should Buy This Book###
Some of the passages in this novel rank among my favorite all-time sections of writing. While Wallace can be verbose, it can lead to some of the most inventive and poetic turns of phrase. I found myself going back and re-reading many moments as soon as I finished them and highlighting them for later use (I rarely ever do this).

This book is funny, sad, smart, and silly. INFINITE JEST really runs the gamut in terms of emotions that it evokes. I've seen many readers talk about how funny it is, and others that focus on how tragic it is. There are moments in this book that I still reflect on and laugh out loud. There are moments that, when I think about them, make me want to cry. There are even moments in this that give me the goosebumps imagining how horrifying they would be.

INFINITE JEST is filled with tons of ideas and tons of characters. Readers will spend a lot of time with the characters here, and almost all of them are interesting. Some of them are fun, and some of them are despicable. Mario Incandenza ranks among one of my favorite characters in literature. Additionally, this book is full of ideas about addiction, entertainment, society, family, imperialism, Quebec separatism, and tennis. There's a lot of great insight spread out across the novel's length. There's not a ton of plotting to INFINITE JEST, but it's alright: these characters are often compelling enough that readers will want to spend their time with them.

It seems that half of the reason to read INFINITE JEST lies merely in the act of doing it. Most people bail on the book midway through, so finishing the novel is seen as a sort of accomplishment in some circles.

###Here's Why You Should Pass on This Book###
This book is too long. It surprised me to learn that INFINITE JEST had an editor and that sections of the book were excised. There are some stretches where not much seems to happen and no new insights are made. Most books leave me wanting the ending to go on and on forever, but there were times where I was just ready for this novel to be over (strangely enough, not at the ending though).

INFINITE JEST is wildly inconsistent. It probably comes with the territory of maximalist writing, but while some passages of writing are fantastic, some passages are equally dull. While I loved the book, I think it would be hard to argue that this novel is a solid, consistent work. Additionally, the novel frequently jumps (apropos of nothing) to different characters and different times and different settings. The narrative might be dealing with Hal Incandenza at a Boston tennis academy in the future only to suddenly (with, granted a line break) focus on a glimpse of his father in the 1970's. Even more additionally, the writing style changes frequently.

The use of styles can be jarring. I ended up liking this point, but I feel that I may be in the minority on this. Early in the book, an essay written by one of the characters (in high school) is recounted in full. Later, we are treated to stream-of-consciousness via a character we are not familiar with. Later, there are dozens of pages with nothing but dialog (literally, not figuratively), and some passages that are completely without dialog.

There's not much plot here. I haven't talked much about the plot in the above content because there's just not that much to talk about. The premise is: a filmmaker created a video that is so enjoyable, people can't turn away from it or think about anything else. Most of this book focuses in on its settings and characters to make its points.

###Overall... ###
Overall, I gotta say, even for all of its flaws, I really enjoyed INFINITE JEST. Some of the reviewers that rated this book poorly have good points to make, and I would recommend reading these reviews before making the plunge on buying this book. At the end of the day though, if you enjoy postmodern fiction, INFINITE JEST is definitely an experience worth trying.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: michigancat on June 04, 2014, 04:37:02 PM
That's a great summary IMO.

Here's more helpful info: http://infinitesummer.org/archives/215
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Pete on June 09, 2014, 02:30:00 PM


I am going to read this



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Actually, I will probably get it on audio.  I like to listen to non-fiction on Audio when I do other stuff.

Saw that tonight. Looks very good.

Just finished it, got it on audio and listened on a very long road trip.

Amazing, scary, and somewhat disheartening.

Over $11 Billion annually is getting bilked from investors, and it's probably even double that much.  Just "poof," gone into the hands of essentially legitimized cyber thieves in bed with the big banks/brokers.

When your 401K isn't what you want it to be in 20 years, just think about the lost billions (trillions by then?) that were stolen from investors in the form of essentially a "tax" that we all pay to these fucks.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: bubbles4ksu on June 09, 2014, 02:41:07 PM
Just finished it, got it on audio and listened on a very long road trip.

Amazing, scary, and somewhat disheartening.

Over $11 Billion annually is getting bilked from investors, and it's probably even double that much.  Just "poof," gone into the hands of essentially legitimized cyber thieves in bed with the big banks/brokers.

When your 401K isn't what you want it to be in 20 years, just think about the lost billions (trillions by then?) that were stolen from investors in the form of essentially a "tax" that we all pay to these fucks.
yeah that sucks, but i bet finance is as fair as it's ever been.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Chingon on June 09, 2014, 03:08:48 PM
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: bubbles4ksu on June 09, 2014, 03:09:50 PM
is this what you went to prison for chings?
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Chingon on June 09, 2014, 03:11:57 PM
not illegal!  ;)
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Mr Bread on June 09, 2014, 03:33:49 PM
Yes, it's legal scalping is all.  It's the government's fault, not really smart people's who are good at making money from nothing. 
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Pete on June 09, 2014, 06:04:25 PM

Yes, it's legal scalping is all.  It's the government's fault, not really smart people's who are good at making money from nothing.

True, only if you are into ethical relativism.  If they made car jacking and murder legal tomorrow, the car jacker murderers would use the same argument.
Title: book recommendations
Post by: Pete on June 09, 2014, 06:13:22 PM

Yes, it's legal scalping is all.  It's the government's fault, not really smart people's who are good at making money from nothing.

True, only if you are into ethical relativism.  If they made car jacking and murder legal tomorrow, the car jacker murderers would use the same argument.


...and, it's not just "scalping."  If you are attempting to buy any meaningful amount of shares, you cannot avoid being "scalped."  UNLESS, you use IEX, BUT your broker will more than likely ignore your request to use IEX and eff you straight up the ass and you'll never know, because they don't have to tell you.

Congrats on your ass rough ridin' by your own broker...a broker  who COULD have chosen not to eff you, but Governments fault tho.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Mr Bread on June 09, 2014, 09:39:05 PM
It's better than scalping, like if scalpers had first dibs on all the tickets.  I don't fault Wall Street guys for making money in a way that the SEC permits.  I mean we can get on our high horses and talk down or try to make them feel bad, but I don't think they'll stop on those scores.   

It's strange to me you aren't mad at the SEC for allowing it.  They could ban it just as easily as they did insider trading and front running.  They haven't though, yet it's their job to stop such abuses.     
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Pete on June 10, 2014, 07:34:46 AM

It's better than scalping, like if scalpers had first dibs on all the tickets.  I don't fault Wall Street guys for making money in a way that the SEC permits.  I mean we can get on our high horses and talk down or try to make them feel bad, but I don't think they'll stop on those scores.   

It's strange to me you aren't mad at the SEC for allowing it.  They could ban it just as easily as they did insider trading and front running.  They haven't though, yet it's their job to stop such abuses.     

The SEC is in bed with them too, and pretty incapable of enforcement on this.

I think they COULD try and shut the current stuff down using existing rules.  It really IS insider trading and front running.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Emo EMAW on June 10, 2014, 09:25:23 AM
So it's like $15B per year?  That's $50 per US citizen (and I'm sure not only Americans are affected) per year.   :zzz:  I'm not saying it doesn't suck, but I'm sure I pay way more in commissions. 
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Cire on June 15, 2014, 11:05:39 PM
Just finished a dance with dragons and started the shinning.   First Stephen king book
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: CNS on June 16, 2014, 12:20:54 PM
The shining is pretty great, imo.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Mr Bread on June 16, 2014, 01:09:02 PM
There's a sequel to The Shining out now.  Dr. Sleep.  I just started it yesterday.  :eek:
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: CNS on June 16, 2014, 01:23:24 PM
There's a sequel to The Shining out now.  Dr. Sleep.  I just started it yesterday.  :eek:

Read it this fall when it came out.  Meh.

Maybe my taste has gone away from King a little bit, but pretty much everything he has done after Wizard and Glass has seemed lazy and uninspired to me.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Mr Bread on June 16, 2014, 01:24:38 PM
I'm still going to read it. 
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: CNS on June 16, 2014, 01:32:40 PM
I'm still going to read it.

You won't hate it.  It will move fast and be ok. 
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: michigancat on June 16, 2014, 01:33:38 PM
I'm reading 1Q84. Holy crap.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: libstradamus on June 16, 2014, 02:10:51 PM
I'm reading 1Q84. Holy crap.

Saw this at b&n this weekend and almost made an impulse buy. 1984 is my favorite book so I'm interested
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Mr Bread on June 16, 2014, 03:45:49 PM
Rusty writes the best book reviews in the biz.  Either he says it's his favorite book a million times or maybe holy crap or some other stuff.  Some bay area periodical (a BAP) is gonna scoop him right up for book reviews.

BAP: knock knock
Rusty: who's there?
BAP: scoop scoop scoop!
Rusty: infinite jest is my favorite book
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Chingon on June 16, 2014, 03:49:31 PM
I'm reading 1Q84. Holy crap.
Did you finish 2666?

I am really thinking about Infinite Jest.  Knowing what books I like, do you think I would enjoy his style?
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: michigancat on June 16, 2014, 03:58:53 PM
I think if you could get through the book of 2666 where he kind of technically and dryly describes all those murders, you would have the patience for Infinite Jest. And patience is the biggest hurdle there.

Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: michigancat on June 16, 2014, 04:03:23 PM
I'm reading 1Q84. Holy crap.

Saw this at b&n this weekend and almost made an impulse buy. 1984 is my favorite book so I'm interested

It's really nothing like 1984, although it's mentioned a bit. 1Q84 is one of the most well crafted storylines I've read. Without spoiling too much, it takes you on a slowly building but decently compelling story and then all of a sudden you find yourself in holy-shitsville and can't put it down.

Mr. Bread, I'm also reading "Nature's Metropolis" about Chicago. It's no "Infinite Jest", but I enjoy it!
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Mr Bread on June 16, 2014, 04:43:30 PM
That sounds pretty good then.  I'm not sure about your Chicago history book. 
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Tobias on June 16, 2014, 07:27:56 PM

I'm reading 1Q84. Holy crap.

me too, not terribly far though
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: michigancat on June 16, 2014, 07:29:02 PM

I'm reading 1Q84. Holy crap.

me too, not terribly far though

The one part I don't get is why they don't just be co authors but that's pretty irrelevant and nitpicky.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on June 17, 2014, 09:33:34 AM
Just finished Dust, the second book in the Wool series.   Fun, but not quite as good as Wool IMHO.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on June 17, 2014, 10:13:21 AM
Just finished Dust, the second book in the Wool series.   Fun, but not quite as good as Wool IMHO.

Oh yeah I was thinking about reading those.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on June 17, 2014, 10:16:08 AM
Just finished Dust, the second book in the Wool series.   Fun, but not quite as good as Wool IMHO.

Did you read Shift too?
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on June 17, 2014, 10:49:43 AM
Just finished Dust, the second book in the Wool series.   Fun, but not quite as good as Wool IMHO.

Did you read Shift too?

it's on my nightstand.   
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Mr Bread on June 17, 2014, 10:55:26 AM
What an unfortunate response.  You could just say yes or no.  Instead you've not only not answered the question, but also raised the possibility that maybe you dry hump it or j/o to it. 
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on June 17, 2014, 11:36:02 AM
What an unfortunate response.  You could just say yes or no.  Instead you've not only not answered the question, but also raised the possibility that maybe you dry hump it or j/o to it.

I don't think I would have come to that conclusion unless he said "It is on my nightstand next to a bottle of hand lotion and a box of Kleenex."

I took it to mean that he has not yet read it, but is planning to.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Mr Bread on June 17, 2014, 12:36:32 PM
I think he dry humps it now having already read it.  So there we are. 
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Chingon on June 17, 2014, 12:38:01 PM
Just finished Dust, the second book in the Wool series.   Fun, but not quite as good as Wool IMHO.

Did you read Shift too?

it's on my nightstand.   
Ummm I think you might have read them out of order then...

Wool -> Shift -> Dust

then maaaaaaybe ...... Sand (maybe....)
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on June 17, 2014, 12:44:42 PM
Just finished Dust, the second book in the Wool series.   Fun, but not quite as good as Wool IMHO.

Did you read Shift too?

it's on my nightstand.   
Ummm I think you might have read them out of order then...

Wool -> Shift -> Dust

then maaaaaaybe ...... Sand (maybe....)

Shift is a prequel though, so does it really matter?
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Chingon on June 17, 2014, 12:47:33 PM
Just finished Dust, the second book in the Wool series.   Fun, but not quite as good as Wool IMHO.

Did you read Shift too?

it's on my nightstand.   
Ummm I think you might have read them out of order then...

Wool -> Shift -> Dust

then maaaaaaybe ...... Sand (maybe....)

Shift is a prequel though, so does it really matter?
I think it does.  It provides the background for the information and actions seen in Dust.  In particular for Donald and Solo, as well as the reasons for the dangers that happen in Dust.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on June 17, 2014, 12:49:20 PM
I have not read any of these yet, but I am going to start tonight (in the correct order).

Although the wiki article said Dust is the last one...so is Sand in the same series?
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Chingon on June 17, 2014, 12:56:03 PM
I have not read any of these yet, but I am going to start tonight (in the correct order).

Although the wiki article said Dust is the last one...so is Sand in the same series?
maaaaaaaybe....(I am not being coy, its up for debate)
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on June 17, 2014, 12:59:43 PM
I have not read any of these yet, but I am going to start tonight (in the correct order).

Although the wiki article said Dust is the last one...so is Sand in the same series?
maaaaaaaybe....(I am not being coy, its up for debate)

The Amazon page I just read said that Sand is not related to the other works...sounds like it might be in the same universe or something??? I will have to start reading to find out. Thanks for helping me decide on the next series to read. I was having a hard time deciding.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Pete on June 17, 2014, 01:44:49 PM
I remember the good old days of the book thread where gratuitous fiction used to flow like wine.

Now, just a bunch of snobs running around talking about having to have patience for ivory towered drivel.

eff that.  I want sex, violence, intrigue, and humor, or GTFO.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: michigancat on June 17, 2014, 10:04:24 PM
I remember the good old days of the book thread where gratuitous fiction used to flow like wine.

Now, just a bunch of snobs running around talking about having to have patience for ivory towered drivel.

eff that.  I want sex, violence, intrigue, and humor, or GTFO.

The Wool series is actually pretty much what you describe.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on June 18, 2014, 09:18:01 AM
I remember the good old days of the book thread where gratuitous fiction used to flow like wine.

Now, just a bunch of snobs running around talking about having to have patience for ivory towered drivel.

eff that.  I want sex, violence, intrigue, and humor, or GTFO.

The Wool series is actually pretty much what you describe.

I've only read the first two chapters but so far sex, murder, and intrigue have been mentioned.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Cire on June 18, 2014, 01:48:37 PM
shining is slightly disappointing but I've seen the movie about a million times and love it so anyway.

Eco is next
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on June 18, 2014, 04:50:35 PM
Just finished Dust, the second book in the Wool series.   Fun, but not quite as good as Wool IMHO.

Did you read Shift too?

it's on my nightstand.   
Ummm I think you might have read them out of order then...

Wool -> Shift -> Dust

then maaaaaaybe ...... Sand (maybe....)

Shift is a prequel though, so does it really matter?

yeah, I screwed up my order and didn't realize until halfway through Dust.    I looked into it, and didn't sound like I was going to ruin anything.    About 1/4 way in and no issues so far, as mentioned it's all prequel, so really it's kind of fun this way to see the beginnings knowing the end.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: libstradamus on June 18, 2014, 05:51:46 PM
shining is slightly disappointing but I've seen the movie about a million times and love it so anyway.

Eco is next

king hates the movie.  movie is 10x better tho.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: CNS on June 18, 2014, 06:22:47 PM
shining is slightly disappointing but I've seen the movie about a million times and love it so anyway.

Eco is next

king hates the movie.  movie is 10x better tho.

No.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: libstradamus on June 18, 2014, 06:27:47 PM
shining is slightly disappointing but I've seen the movie about a million times and love it so anyway.

Eco is next

king hates the movie.  movie is 10x better tho.

No.

i mean, i haven't read the shining since i was in like 6th grade, but the movie is like really rough ridin' good
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: ksupamplemousse on June 18, 2014, 06:35:08 PM
I've been binge reading Michael Chrichton's books that were adapted to the silver screen. They're all pretty decent reads. Jurassic Park was really enjoyable.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on June 23, 2014, 09:37:11 AM
I remember the good old days of the book thread where gratuitous fiction used to flow like wine.

Now, just a bunch of snobs running around talking about having to have patience for ivory towered drivel.

eff that.  I want sex, violence, intrigue, and humor, or GTFO.

The Wool series is actually pretty much what you describe.

I'm 2/3 through Wool.  :thumbs:
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: ew2x4 on June 23, 2014, 01:42:21 PM
I remember the good old days of the book thread where gratuitous fiction used to flow like wine.

Now, just a bunch of snobs running around talking about having to have patience for ivory towered drivel.

eff that.  I want sex, violence, intrigue, and humor, or GTFO.

The Wool series is actually pretty much what you describe.

I'm 2/3 through Wool.  :thumbs:

Wool is solid. I have Shift and Dust, havent taken the time to read them. Have heard good things.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: puniraptor on June 23, 2014, 02:28:23 PM
I remember the good old days of the book thread where gratuitous fiction used to flow like wine.

Now, just a bunch of snobs running around talking about having to have patience for ivory towered drivel.

eff that.  I want sex, violence, intrigue, and humor, or GTFO.

The Wool series is actually pretty much what you describe.

I'm 2/3 through Wool.  :thumbs:

Wool is solid. I have Shift and Dust, havent taken the time to read them. Have heard good things.

I really love the concept and business model. wool is great, shift gets very slow and tedious at times.

The author has a problem with doing a great job of building tension and intrigue up to a climactic or revelatory moment, but by the time the twist or revelation is revealed you have already figured it out so it turns out to be kinda meh.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: michigancat on July 03, 2014, 12:45:53 PM
I finished 1Q84, it was OK. Great first half or two thirds, but I didn't care for the ending. The meshing of reality and fantasy was very well done.

"Nature's Metropolis" is a great book centered on Chicago, but is really a great look at how American western expansion shaped the nation and world as a whole. Can drag on a bit, but still very good.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: ben ji on July 03, 2014, 01:35:28 PM
pops just dropped this off!!!

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Really enoyed reading Mafia and the Machine

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Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Spracne on July 03, 2014, 01:38:06 PM
What's the first pic?  I can barely see it.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: asava on July 07, 2014, 10:43:30 AM
I finished 1Q84, it was OK. Great first half or two thirds, but I didn't care for the ending. The meshing of reality and fantasy was very well done.

"Nature's Metropolis" is a great book centered on Chicago, but is really a great look at how American western expansion shaped the nation and world as a whole. Can drag on a bit, but still very good.

Have you read any other Murakami? I've not read 1Q84, but Norwegian Wood, A Wild Sheep Chase and Kafka on the Shore were all great. His short story collection, The Elephant Vanishes, is a great bathroom book too, imo. 
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: michigancat on July 07, 2014, 10:47:16 AM
I finished 1Q84, it was OK. Great first half or two thirds, but I didn't care for the ending. The meshing of reality and fantasy was very well done.

"Nature's Metropolis" is a great book centered on Chicago, but is really a great look at how American western expansion shaped the nation and world as a whole. Can drag on a bit, but still very good.

Have you read any other Murakami? I've not read 1Q84, but Norwegian Wood, A Wild Sheep Chase and Kafka on the Shore were all great. His short story collection, The Elephant Vanishes, is a great bathroom book too, imo. 

No, but it sounds like his others are probably better and I'll probably try them.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: chum1 on July 07, 2014, 04:09:58 PM
I don't recommend the Murakami running memoir.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: SkinnyBenny on July 07, 2014, 10:03:01 PM
Everybody post some classics and/or really well-known books that you read that were either terrible or meh.

Pride and Prejudice: no rough ridin' thanks
1984: meh. I mean, I guess. Whatever.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: libstradamus on July 07, 2014, 10:58:56 PM
Brave new world
 - before the reservation:  :thumbs:  :Woot: :thumbs:
 - after the reservation:  :zzz:
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Kat Kid on July 07, 2014, 11:36:39 PM
Everybody post some classics and/or really well-known books that you read that were either terrible or meh.

Pride and Prejudice: no rough ridin' thanks
1984: meh. I mean, I guess. Whatever.

good grief.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: SdK on July 08, 2014, 12:53:30 AM
Anna Karenina is my favorite of all time. Once raced an ex-girlfriend in reading it. Loved it.

Lolita is the most well written book I've ever read.

1984 broke my heart but that made me love it even more.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: ksupamplemousse on July 08, 2014, 02:10:03 AM
Ulysses is terrible. Did Joyce establish new boundaries for literature with that book? Sure. Just because he expanded the space for other writers to operate in doesn't make it a good piece of fiction though. It's rough ridin' awful. The story pushed the limits of the amount of boredom that a human being can endure. It wasn't enough to be boring though, he decided to purposefully obfuscate the plot throughout, whilst lyrically masturbating for 700 pages. The fact that he changed literature is the unintended consequence of an egotistical bad person beating the crap out of his readers with a 265,000 word ode to "doing whatever the eff I want, because I'm James Joyce, so eff you!"
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: felix rex on July 08, 2014, 06:56:50 AM
I remember the good old days of the book thread where gratuitous fiction used to flow like wine.

Now, just a bunch of snobs running around talking about having to have patience for ivory towered drivel.

eff that.  I want sex, violence, intrigue, and humor, or GTFO.

We have to ride armored shuttles back and forth to work every day, so I have 2 hours of car time 5 times a week.  I read Ender's Game because I thought I would have liked it as a kid and never saw it, then I ended up reading pretty much everything Card has written and enjoyed the gratuitous eff out of it.

I also just finished the Ice and Fire series. It was also gratuitously wonderful.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Pete on July 08, 2014, 07:01:47 AM

I remember the good old days of the book thread where gratuitous fiction used to flow like wine.

Now, just a bunch of snobs running around talking about having to have patience for ivory towered drivel.

eff that.  I want sex, violence, intrigue, and humor, or GTFO.

We have to ride armored shuttles back and forth to work every day, so I have 2 hours of car time 5 times a week.  I read Ender's Game because I thought I would have liked it as a kid and never saw it, then I ended up reading pretty much everything Card has written and enjoyed the gratuitous eff out of it.

I also just finished the Ice and Fire series. It was also gratuitously wonderful.

I like the cut of your jib sail, Felix.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: michigancat on July 08, 2014, 08:57:24 AM
Ulysses is terrible. Did Joyce establish new boundaries for literature with that book? Sure. Just because he expanded the space for other writers to operate in doesn't make it a good piece of fiction though. It's rough ridin' awful. The story pushed the limits of the amount of boredom that a human being can endure. It wasn't enough to be boring though, he decided to purposefully obfuscate the plot throughout, whilst lyrically masturbating for 700 pages. The fact that he changed literature is the unintended consequence of an egotistical bad person beating the crap out of his readers with a 265,000 word ode to "doing whatever the eff I want, because I'm James Joyce, so eff you!"

Great review. Lots of old literature sucks.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: michigancat on July 08, 2014, 09:06:32 AM
I've tried to read Sound and the Fury multiple times and just got bored before I got halfway through each time and have never finished.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on July 08, 2014, 09:10:05 AM
I remember the good old days of the book thread where gratuitous fiction used to flow like wine.

Now, just a bunch of snobs running around talking about having to have patience for ivory towered drivel.

eff that.  I want sex, violence, intrigue, and humor, or GTFO.

We have to ride armored shuttles back and forth to work every day, so I have 2 hours of car time 5 times a week.  I read Ender's Game because I thought I would have liked it as a kid and never saw it, then I ended up reading pretty much everything Card has written and enjoyed the gratuitous eff out of it.

I also just finished the Ice and Fire series. It was also gratuitously wonderful.

I read a bunch of the Enderverse books. But I got part way through Shadow of the Giant on audiobook and my ipod died and I wasn't motivated enough by the story to make an effort to finish it. Should I make the effort?
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: CNS on July 08, 2014, 09:24:09 AM
Faulkner is the worst.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: felix rex on July 08, 2014, 09:41:35 AM
I remember the good old days of the book thread where gratuitous fiction used to flow like wine.

Now, just a bunch of snobs running around talking about having to have patience for ivory towered drivel.

eff that.  I want sex, violence, intrigue, and humor, or GTFO.

We have to ride armored shuttles back and forth to work every day, so I have 2 hours of car time 5 times a week.  I read Ender's Game because I thought I would have liked it as a kid and never saw it, then I ended up reading pretty much everything Card has written and enjoyed the gratuitous eff out of it.

I also just finished the Ice and Fire series. It was also gratuitously wonderful.

I read a bunch of the Enderverse books. But I got part way through Shadow of the Giant on audiobook and my ipod died and I wasn't motivated enough by the story to make an effort to finish it. Should I make the effort?

Yes.  The Bean books are all really good.  Also, the Homecoming Series and the Alvin Maker series.  Good armored shuttle reads, every one.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: asava on July 08, 2014, 09:47:02 AM
Anna Karenina is my favorite of all time. Once raced an ex-girlfriend in reading it. Loved it.

Lolita is the most well written book I've ever read.

1984 broke my heart but that made me love it even more.

Nabokov is the best.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: SkinnyBenny on July 08, 2014, 12:09:51 PM
Everybody post some classics and/or really well-known books that you read that were either terrible or meh.

Pride and Prejudice: no rough ridin' thanks
1984: meh. I mean, I guess. Whatever.

good grief.

stud writer mark twain agrees on the jane austen stuff. http://www.twainquotes.com/Austen_Jane.html

and if you are good griefing me for 1984, well I guess that counts. More of an Animal Farm guy. :dunno:
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: felix rex on July 08, 2014, 12:53:47 PM
I also recently read the The Time Machine and The Sleeper Awakes and sincerely enjoyed both.

And also At The Mountains of Madness, which was oddly enjoyable despite what has to be the most extensive use of "cyclopean" in all of literature.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: michigancat on July 30, 2014, 05:04:05 PM


:D
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Missouriscribe on August 05, 2014, 12:09:57 AM
The Guts is an entertaining read. The entire book is dialogue, set in Scotland. A fun weekend or vacation fictional story.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Mr Bread on August 05, 2014, 11:11:56 AM
I read Dune.  I liked it. 
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Brock Landers on August 05, 2014, 12:06:58 PM
My cubicle neighbor at work recently loaned me Under the Dome.  I hadn't read any Stephen King stuff since the late 90's and I figured it was worth a shot since the guy used to be pretty entertaining.  This book is simply awful.  There are too many characters to keep track of but it doesn't matter since ***NO SPOILER WARNING SINCE YOU'D HAVE TO BE AN IDIOT TO READ THIS BOOK*** almost every single one of them dies anyway.  The ending was unbelievably stupid.  Oh yeah, the book was 1072 pages long. I kept reading and reading thinking it would get better but it didn't.  Joke's on me for reading 1072 pages of absolute garbage.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: michigancat on August 05, 2014, 12:15:47 PM
My cubicle neighbor at work recently loaned me Under the Dome.  I hadn't read any Stephen King stuff since the late 90's and I figured it was worth a shot since the guy used to be pretty entertaining.  This book is simply awful.  There are too many characters to keep track of but it doesn't matter since ***NO SPOILER WARNING SINCE YOU'D HAVE TO BE AN IDIOT TO READ THIS BOOK*** almost every single one of them dies anyway.  The ending was unbelievably stupid.  Oh yeah, the book was 1072 pages long. I kept reading and reading thinking it would get better but it didn't.  Joke's on me for reading 1072 pages of absolute garbage.

The lesson: bail on books you don't like early

(UNLESS IT'S INFINITE JEST)
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Mr Bread on August 05, 2014, 12:17:39 PM
He probably didn't read the rough ridin' footnotes right.  Typical brock landers.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: michigancat on August 05, 2014, 12:20:22 PM
The last book I bailed on early was this:

http://www.amazon.com/On-Looking-Eleven-Walks-Expert/dp/1439191255

Such rough ridin' awful pretentious prose, I bailed after a chapter and a half. Her previous book was about what dogs smell so joke's on me I guess.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Chingon on August 05, 2014, 12:34:30 PM
I've been doing a bit of non-fiction lately, but I have to space it out. Need some good ole stories in between all of the facts.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: CNS on August 05, 2014, 12:45:29 PM
Brock, King pretty much sucks balls now.  He mumped up his masterpiece and has sucked since.

As far as giving up on books early, I have had a real problem lately.  I have read the first 100 pg of half a dozen books lately and can't find one that keeps my attention right now.  Most of them seem like they should be good, but I just can't get into them right now.  Will save for later, I guess.

Now I am on something(Natchez Burning) that I can pretty much guarantee is going to be bland the whole way through, but I actually don't mind picking it up daily.  Anyone read it yet? 

I hate it when I can't find something that grabs my balls.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Chingon on August 05, 2014, 12:49:19 PM
Yah, I started reading Artful: A Novel and couldn't even get past the first two pages.  I need something to titillate and arouse me.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Brock Landers on August 05, 2014, 12:52:12 PM
My cubicle neighbor at work recently loaned me Under the Dome.  I hadn't read any Stephen King stuff since the late 90's and I figured it was worth a shot since the guy used to be pretty entertaining.  This book is simply awful.  There are too many characters to keep track of but it doesn't matter since ***NO SPOILER WARNING SINCE YOU'D HAVE TO BE AN IDIOT TO READ THIS BOOK*** almost every single one of them dies anyway.  The ending was unbelievably stupid.  Oh yeah, the book was 1072 pages long. I kept reading and reading thinking it would get better but it didn't.  Joke's on me for reading 1072 pages of absolute garbage.

The lesson: bail on books you don't like early

(UNLESS IT'S INFINITE JEST)


Good advice, but by the time I realized how bad it was I was already a few hundred pages into it and figured I was committed at that point.  I'm the same way with movies.  Although your maximum time committment to a terrible movie is usually about 2 hours whereas this piece of crap book used up most of my leisure time over about 2 weeks.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: michigancat on August 05, 2014, 01:00:03 PM
I've been doing a bit of non-fiction lately, but I have to space it out. Need some good ole stories in between all of the facts.

yes, me, too.

I've mentioned it before, but I love George Saunders' short stories as a way to break up non-fiction.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on August 05, 2014, 01:16:57 PM
I read this book a few weeks ago. It was pretty interesting.

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41p0oTe0PAL.jpg)
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on August 05, 2014, 01:50:48 PM
I remember the good old days of the book thread where gratuitous fiction used to flow like wine.

Now, just a bunch of snobs running around talking about having to have patience for ivory towered drivel.

eff that.  I want sex, violence, intrigue, and humor, or GTFO.

The Wool series is actually pretty much what you describe.

I'm 2/3 through Wool.  :thumbs:

Finished Shift and now I'm on Dust. I start to cry every time they bring up that damn cat.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Mr Bread on August 05, 2014, 02:17:49 PM
I remember the good old days of the book thread where gratuitous fiction used to flow like wine.

Now, just a bunch of snobs running around talking about having to have patience for ivory towered drivel.

eff that.  I want sex, violence, intrigue, and humor, or GTFO.

The Wool series is actually pretty much what you describe.

I'm 2/3 through Wool.  :thumbs:

Finished Shift and now I'm on Dust. I start to cry every time they bring up that damn cat.

I read Wool.  It was okay.  It did not leave me with the desire to read another one. 
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Emo EMAW on August 05, 2014, 02:21:35 PM
Everybody post some classics and/or really well-known books that you read that were either terrible or meh.

Pride and Prejudice: no rough ridin' thanks
1984: meh. I mean, I guess. Whatever.

Anything Kurt Vonnegut. 
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Mr Bread on August 05, 2014, 02:41:28 PM
Everybody post some classics and/or really well-known books that you read that were either terrible or meh.

Pride and Prejudice: no rough ridin' thanks
1984: meh. I mean, I guess. Whatever.

Anything Kurt Vonnegut.

You should just name the one that you read.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: 8manpick on August 05, 2014, 02:46:07 PM
Everybody post some classics and/or really well-known books that you read that were either terrible or meh.

Pride and Prejudice: no rough ridin' thanks
1984: meh. I mean, I guess. Whatever.

Anything Kurt Vonnegut.

You should just name the one that you read.
Vonnegut is awesome, but I can see how a low/medium may not enjoy him
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: chum1 on August 10, 2014, 07:12:38 PM
I just completed my reading list designed to include uniquely California stories. I was pretty happy with it, so here it is:

The Day of the Locust, Nathanael West
Less Than Zero, Bret Easton Ellis
Ask the Dust, John Fante
Where I was From, Joan Didion
Slouching Toward Bethlehem, Joan Didion
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: CNS on August 10, 2014, 07:20:42 PM
No Steinbeck?
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: chum1 on August 10, 2014, 07:41:18 PM
No Steinbeck?

Already read most. But I should also clarify my project further. I was more after stories that might capture unique aspects of the the nature of some of the state's people and places, conveying a distinct California flavor.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on August 11, 2014, 09:51:29 AM
read the Wayward Pines series last week.   Enjoyable summer fare.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Kat Kid on August 11, 2014, 10:03:08 AM
As soon as I am done with Capital in the 21st Century.......

http://www.amazon.com/Invisible-Bridge-Fall-Nixon-Reagan/dp/1476782415/ref=la_B001I9OL9S_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1407769352&sr=1-1 (http://www.amazon.com/Invisible-Bridge-Fall-Nixon-Reagan/dp/1476782415/ref=la_B001I9OL9S_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1407769352&sr=1-1)
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: michigancat on August 11, 2014, 10:16:07 AM
As soon as I am done with Capital in the 21st Century.......

http://www.amazon.com/Invisible-Bridge-Fall-Nixon-Reagan/dp/1476782415/ref=la_B001I9OL9S_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1407769352&sr=1-1 (http://www.amazon.com/Invisible-Bridge-Fall-Nixon-Reagan/dp/1476782415/ref=la_B001I9OL9S_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1407769352&sr=1-1)

interesting!

I finished 'A Peace to End All Peace'

http://www.amazon.com/Peace-End-All-Ottoman-Creation/dp/0805088091/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1407769775&sr=1-1&keywords=peace+to+end+all+peace

Summary: The Middle East borders and leaders of today are for the most part in place because a bunch of bumbling Brits who had no idea what they were doing carved up the Ottoman Empire during World War I among the allies (BEFORE THEY HAD SET FOOT ON OTTOMAN TERRITORY MIND YOU.) The Brits had a comical series of misadventures along the way before losing interest (and money) after the war and saying, "well, I guess we did promise we'd do this five years ago during WWI, so here ya go". It's kind of infuriating. Also the author didn't care much for TE Lawrence (Lawrence of Arabia) and basically called him a big fat liar the entire book, but the Brits thought he was awesome because he war Arabian clothes.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Kat Kid on August 11, 2014, 10:19:43 AM
I read Nixonland already, so I might as well tune in to figure out what happens next, ya know?
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: michigancat on August 11, 2014, 10:31:51 AM
I wasn't being facetious, it really does sound interesting. 
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on August 11, 2014, 10:32:53 AM
I really like Ken Follett books. I just found World Without End (sequel to Pillars of the Earth) on audiobook at a flea market for $8.50. It is really good so far.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: libstradamus on August 12, 2014, 08:14:38 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/e02WyAm.jpg)
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: TownieCat on September 16, 2014, 10:06:10 AM
I have about 30 hours worth of flights in the next month so was thinking about picking up a book for the first time in a long time... Not really much of a reader, so any expertise you guys can offer would be appreciated. Any must reads out there?

A few more specific book questions... Has anyone read Dad is Fat by Jim Gaffigan? And if I were to pick up one of the Game of Thrones books where would I want to start based on where the TV show is now, or is it just an awful idea to pick up a book in the middle of the series?

TIA
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: CNS on September 16, 2014, 10:23:01 AM
GoT: def start at beginning.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Kat Kid on September 16, 2014, 10:25:42 AM
I have about 30 hours worth of flights in the next month so was thinking about picking up a book for the first time in a long time... Not really much of a reader, so any expertise you guys can offer would be appreciated. Any must reads out there?

A few more specific book questions... Has anyone read Dad is Fat by Jim Gaffigan? And if I were to pick up one of the Game of Thrones books where would I want to start based on where the TV show is now, or is it just an awful idea to pick up a book in the middle of the series?

TIA

all of the GoT books are long, but the 1st one would go super fast on a plane.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: michigancat on September 16, 2014, 10:56:59 AM
I have about 30 hours worth of flights in the next month so was thinking about picking up a book for the first time in a long time... Not really much of a reader, so any expertise you guys can offer would be appreciated. Any must reads out there?

A few more specific book questions... Has anyone read Dad is Fat by Jim Gaffigan? And if I were to pick up one of the Game of Thrones books where would I want to start based on where the TV show is now, or is it just an awful idea to pick up a book in the middle of the series?

TIA

I would guess the Gaffigan book wouldn't take very long.

I would recommend the Wool series if you haven't read for a while before getting into GoT. But definitely start from the beginning if you go w/ GoT as everyone has said.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Asteriskhead on September 16, 2014, 11:00:32 AM
I think that you would enjoy the writings of David Sedaris.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: TownieCat on September 16, 2014, 11:04:45 AM
A lot of great options to work with here. Thanks, gE!

I think that you would enjoy the writings of David Sedaris.

Any specific one that you like best? Let's Explore Diabetes with Owls was a recommendation from Amazon when I looked into Dad is Fat.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Fldermaus on September 16, 2014, 11:13:41 AM
A lot of great options to work with here. Thanks, gE!

I think that you would enjoy the writings of David Sedaris.

Any specific one that you like best? Let's Explore Diabetes with Owls was a recommendation from Amazon when I looked into Dad is Fat.

imo, Me Talk Pretty One Day is Sedaris' best.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Asteriskhead on September 16, 2014, 11:29:13 AM
Me Talk Pretty One Day is my favorite. I would recommend not reading the one that is all made up animal stories. I did not enjoy it.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on September 16, 2014, 01:36:25 PM
Hunter's Run by George R.R. Martin is pretty good if you want to start with something from him that isn't as long a commitment.

I also second the suggestions of the Wool Series and start at the beginning of GoT.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: chum1 on September 16, 2014, 06:15:46 PM
Apparently, Charlotte Bronte thought Jane Austen sucked ass. I once had it in my head that I was going to read both Pride and Predjudice and Jane Eyre and then decide who I liked better. I only ever made it through the beginning of P&P and didn't care for it too much. Anyway, if anyone wants to read those two books and then report back here, it might help me with my decision.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Cire on September 17, 2014, 06:03:03 AM
I've been reading a lot of native American history.

Summer moon
Crazy horse and custer.   Stephan ambrose
The heart of everything that is. 

All really good.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: michigancat on September 17, 2014, 07:10:12 AM
I've been reading a lot of native American history.

Summer moon
Crazy horse and custer.   Stephan ambrose
The heart of everything that is. 

All really good.

I bet it's all incredibly depressing and makes you less impressed with the good ole US of A
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: AU_Tigers on September 17, 2014, 07:27:33 AM
Apparently, Charlotte Bronte thought Jane Austen sucked ass. I once had it in my head that I was going to read both Pride and Predjudice and Jane Eyre and then decide who I liked better. I only ever made it through the beginning of P&P and didn't care for it too much. Anyway, if anyone wants to read those two books and then report back here, it might help me with my decision.

 :lol:
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on September 17, 2014, 08:28:57 AM
Apparently, Charlotte Bronte thought Jane Austen sucked ass. I once had it in my head that I was going to read both Pride and Predjudice and Jane Eyre and then decide who I liked better. I only ever made it through the beginning of P&P and didn't care for it too much. Anyway, if anyone wants to read those two books and then report back here, it might help me with my decision.

I read Pride and Prejudice and Zombies and that was pretty entertaining.  :dunno:
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Cire on September 17, 2014, 09:22:47 AM
I've been reading a lot of native American history.

Summer moon
Crazy horse and custer.   Stephan ambrose
The heart of everything that is. 

All really good.

I bet it's all incredibly depressing and makes you less impressed with the good ole US of A

crazy horse one was sad for him and GAC

red cloud one is less about RC than about strategies/tactics on both sides.  Not as sad.

Going to read a Jesse James Bio next maybe.

Or sitting bull
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Cire on September 17, 2014, 09:24:42 AM
Something that is really interesting is when they put things in today's values.  In the 1860's it cost well over a million dollars to kill an Indian on the Plains.

And the idea of sending 500 guys out to find another 500 guys trying to not be found in an area the size of Montana is crazy.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: ksupamplemousse on September 17, 2014, 08:28:51 PM
Apparently, Charlotte Bronte thought Jane Austen sucked ass. I once had it in my head that I was going to read both Pride and Predjudice and Jane Eyre and then decide who I liked better. I only ever made it through the beginning of P&P and didn't care for it too much. Anyway, if anyone wants to read those two books and then report back here, it might help me with my decision.

Jane Austen was the reality television of her day. No depth to her books. Nice trappings and (mildly) interesting plot twists, but nothing goes more than surface deep.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: The_Wippuh on September 19, 2014, 10:41:53 AM
I'm still pissed that this thread led me to read Dirty White Boys  :shakesfist:
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: michigancat on September 19, 2014, 10:42:14 AM
LOL
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on September 19, 2014, 10:49:41 AM
reading Gone Girl right now. its slow, but good so far. will read then watch the flick.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on September 19, 2014, 10:53:10 AM
reading Gone Girl right now. its slow, but good so far. will read then watch the flick.

The beginning is a little slow but it gets better.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on September 19, 2014, 11:28:33 AM
reading Gone Girl right now. its slow, but good so far. will read then watch the flick.

The beginning is a little slow but it gets better.

yeah, i guess i meant that the reading is slow. the story has me by the balls about 50 pages in. it just has a ton of description and background to everything, making it really hard to dive into.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on September 19, 2014, 11:44:13 AM
reading Gone Girl right now. its slow, but good so far. will read then watch the flick.

The beginning is a little slow but it gets better.

yeah, i guess i meant that the reading is slow. the story has me by the balls about 50 pages in. it just has a ton of description and background to everything, making it really hard to dive into.

Dark Places also by Gillian Flynn is also good, although I like Gone Girl more.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on September 23, 2014, 10:47:37 AM
was sitting around after the Royals game last night reading a few chapters of Gone Girl. ms tonya started reading yesterday...

"what chapter are you on?"
"uhh... just started part 2."
"oh have you gotten to the part where **drops massive spoiler bomb**??"
"wtf? why would you say that? did you read ahead?"
"yeah, i read the last 2 chapters because i wanted to know what happens!"

 :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm:
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: steve dave on September 23, 2014, 10:57:46 AM
what a weirdo
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: michigancat on September 23, 2014, 11:01:35 AM
was sitting around after the Royals game last night reading a few chapters of Gone Girl. ms tonya started reading yesterday...

"what chapter are you on?"
"uhh... just started part 2."
"oh have you gotten to the part where **drops massive spoiler bomb**??"
"wtf? why would you say that? did you read ahead?"
"yeah, i read the last 2 chapters because i wanted to know what happens!"

 :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm:

mods, move this to the dating thread so we can tell tonya to kick this gal to the curb
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on September 23, 2014, 11:06:06 AM
was sitting around after the Royals game last night reading a few chapters of Gone Girl. ms tonya started reading yesterday...

"what chapter are you on?"
"uhh... just started part 2."
"oh have you gotten to the part where **drops massive spoiler bomb**??"
"wtf? why would you say that? did you read ahead?"
"yeah, i read the last 2 chapters because i wanted to know what happens!"

 :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm:

WTF! Really, really jerk move on her part.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Mr Bread on September 23, 2014, 11:07:03 AM
Only a psychopath skips to the last two chapters of the book. 
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on September 23, 2014, 11:08:49 AM
Only a psychopath skips to the last two chapters of the book.

Even a psychopath wouldn't have then spoiled it for someone in the middle of the book.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: mocat on September 23, 2014, 11:10:07 AM
tonya said "flick" though, which is pretty gross.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on September 23, 2014, 11:25:11 AM
luckily the spoiler wasnt the VERY end of the book, it was from a few chapters from where i was.

but still... who does that? why read a book if youre just gonna find out the ending out of order?
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Fedor on September 23, 2014, 01:11:19 PM
luckily the spoiler wasnt the VERY end of the book, it was from a few chapters from where i was.

but still... who does that? why read a book if youre just gonna find out the ending out of order?
Noted psychopath Mrs. Fedor skips to the end.  It does not seem to ruin the book for her.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: SdK on September 23, 2014, 01:14:16 PM
Apparently, Charlotte Bronte thought Jane Austen sucked ass. I once had it in my head that I was going to read both Pride and Predjudice and Jane Eyre and then decide who I liked better. I only ever made it through the beginning of P&P and didn't care for it too much. Anyway, if anyone wants to read those two books and then report back here, it might help me with my decision.
Loved both
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on September 23, 2014, 01:15:58 PM
luckily the spoiler wasnt the VERY end of the book, it was from a few chapters from where i was.

but still... who does that? why read a book if youre just gonna find out the ending out of order?
Noted psychopath Mrs. Fedor skips to the end.  It does not seem to ruin the book for her.

But does she tell you the ending if you are reading the same book?
Also, how does she know it didn't ruin it? Maybe it would have been 10x better if she had waited.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: 8manpick on September 23, 2014, 06:58:58 PM
So you are dating a sociopath? Guess we'll have to check her freezer when you go missing
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: libstradamus on September 23, 2014, 07:15:43 PM
I almost always read the last chapter first, or at least the last few pages
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Pete on September 23, 2014, 08:36:56 PM

I'm still pissed that this thread led me to read Dirty White Boys  :shakesfist:

Tony Korheiser will give you your money back.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on September 25, 2014, 09:00:50 AM
mrs gooch, i did not like the ending to Gone Girl. i probably will not read any of her other books. overall, it was a good book. it kept me wanting more but by the last 50 pages or so i was pretty sick of all of the characters and just wanted to write my own ending.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on September 25, 2014, 09:31:12 AM
mrs gooch, i did not like the ending to Gone Girl. i probably will not read any of her other books. overall, it was a good book. it kept me wanting more but by the last 50 pages or so i was pretty sick of all of the characters and just wanted to write my own ending.

Did you not like the surprise thing or the very ending?
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on September 25, 2014, 01:36:03 PM
mrs gooch, i did not like the ending to Gone Girl. i probably will not read any of her other books. overall, it was a good book. it kept me wanting more but by the last 50 pages or so i was pretty sick of all of the characters and just wanted to write my own ending.

Did you not like the surprise thing or the very ending?

both, really.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on September 25, 2014, 03:05:05 PM
mrs gooch, i did not like the ending to Gone Girl. i probably will not read any of her other books. overall, it was a good book. it kept me wanting more but by the last 50 pages or so i was pretty sick of all of the characters and just wanted to write my own ending.

Did you not like the surprise thing or the very ending?

both, really.

I didn't really like how everything end up, but then again usually when I am mad about something in a book I think it must have been good to evoke that kind of emotion.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: michigancat on September 29, 2014, 07:29:35 PM
Reading Nixonland. Fascinating subject and the author's snarkiness and candor is a treat.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: The_Wippuh on October 04, 2014, 09:58:50 PM
Going to hit you guys with an oldie that I was totally caught off guard with...

Strange Case of Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde by Stevenson

Incredible writing and the story is a lot different than what I expected.  The tale stays true at the core but Stevenson's story has been interpreted in so many different ways over the years that the original is almost forgotten.  Do yourself and read it.  Very short and worth it. 
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Pete on October 05, 2014, 10:45:54 AM
Going to hit you guys with an oldie that I was totally caught off guard with...

Strange Case of Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde by Stevenson

Incredible writing and the story is a lot different than what I expected.  The tale stays true at the core but Stevenson's story has been interpreted in so many different ways over the years that the original is almost forgotten.  Do yourself and read it.  Very short and worth it.

Interesting suggestion.  Sounds better than most of the heads disappeared up your own ass stuff that MichiganCat suggests in this thread. 
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: The_Wippuh on October 09, 2014, 01:46:21 PM
After Jekyll and Hide, I immediately grabbed Treasure Island by Stevenson.  I found it to be a quick and fun read too.  Stevenson's writing is really nice and I enjoy it a lot.  There is nothing deep about Treasure Island, it's simply a good story. 

Trying to figure out what I want to read of his next.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: libstradamus on October 10, 2014, 10:22:25 PM
Why is wool not on google play
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Canary on October 13, 2014, 08:19:12 AM
Why is wool not on google play
Trying to knit a sweater?
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on October 13, 2014, 08:25:16 AM
Why is wool not on google play

Here it is.
https://play.google.com/store/books/details/Hugh_Howey_Ull?id=6ytgAwAAQBAJ



I hope you read Swedish.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Cire on October 13, 2014, 09:41:30 PM
Rebel yell
stonewall Jackson bio.
Good
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: libstradamus on October 13, 2014, 10:26:22 PM
Why is wool not on google play

Here it is.
https://play.google.com/store/books/details/Hugh_Howey_Ull?id=6ytgAwAAQBAJ



I hope you read Swedish.


got it on kindle instead.  really really enjoyed the holdsten part.  about 120 pages in so far and it's enjoyable.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on October 14, 2014, 08:52:35 AM
been grinding through The Goldfinch.    Gets better as it goes, but it is a slow read for some reason.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: CNS on October 14, 2014, 11:06:44 AM
Been looking at getting that.  It has great reviews, but everytime I pull it back up on amazon and read the description,  I can't help thinking how boring it sounds.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Asteriskhead on October 20, 2014, 10:57:49 PM
Going to hit you guys with an oldie that I was totally caught off guard with...

Strange Case of Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde by Stevenson

Incredible writing and the story is a lot different than what I expected.  The tale stays true at the core but Stevenson's story has been interpreted in so many different ways over the years that the original is almost forgotten.  Do yourself and read it.  Very short and worth it.
I actually read this while I was in the hospital over the summer. I had owned a collection of his short stories with this one in it for quite and had never read it. I agree with your thoughts. Out of the stories in the collection, I enjoyed The Suicide Club the most.

I just picked up Child of God by Cormac McCarthy for another read-through. I really enjoy his writing. If I don't move on to something new after this, I'll probably reread The Border Trilogy or Blood Meridian.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: slucat on October 21, 2014, 08:35:26 AM
Serena by Ron Rash.  :thumbs:
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Pete on November 09, 2014, 10:06:15 PM

Serena by Ron Rash.  :thumbs:

I just read the description of this book.  It seems deeply depressing and not enjoyable.  What did you like about this book?
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Mr Bread on November 10, 2014, 12:43:26 PM
I'm reading The Terror by Dan Simmons.  Historical horror/fiction.  It got fantastic reviews, but so far it's pretty ho hum.  It could be just me though. 
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Mr Bread on November 10, 2014, 12:45:33 PM
I read both of Rothfuss' books.  They were okay.  He's not afraid to be repetitious as hell.  Hey that was a fun scene, I'll redo that crap every 50 pages or so.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Pete on November 10, 2014, 02:09:56 PM

I read both of Rothfuss' books.  They were okay.  He's not afraid to be repetitious as hell.  Hey that was a fun scene, I'll redo that crap every 50 pages or so.

I don't disagree, but I had fun reading these books.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Pete on November 10, 2014, 02:16:03 PM
Anyone ever read "Ash" by Mary Gentle?  Seems like it could be cool, but maybe tedious.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: ksupamplemousse on November 12, 2014, 10:10:02 PM
Been reading some books/series that I'm embarrassed to have not read yet. This week it was the Foundation series. It's obviously old sci-fi. There is some hilarious slang from the '50s sprinkled in there, and some of the science is obvious nonsense, but the story kept me going through three books. I'm even thinking of reading the prequels/sequels that he wrote in the '80s. Really glad I finally got around to reading my first Asimov series.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: 8manpick on November 13, 2014, 12:27:10 PM
Been reading some books/series that I'm embarrassed to have not read yet. This week it was the Foundation series. It's obviously old sci-fi. There is some hilarious slang from the '50s sprinkled in there, and some of the science is obvious nonsense, but the story kept me going through three books. I'm even thinking of reading the prequels/sequels that he wrote in the '80s. Really glad I finally got around to reading my first Asimov series.
Asimov on re-reading it: "I read it with mounting uneasiness. I kept waiting for something to happen, and nothing ever did. All three volumes, all the nearly quarter of a million words, consisted of thoughts and of conversation. No action. No physical suspense."
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: ksupamplemousse on November 13, 2014, 12:51:20 PM
Been reading some books/series that I'm embarrassed to have not read yet. This week it was the Foundation series. It's obviously old sci-fi. There is some hilarious slang from the '50s sprinkled in there, and some of the science is obvious nonsense, but the story kept me going through three books. I'm even thinking of reading the prequels/sequels that he wrote in the '80s. Really glad I finally got around to reading my first Asimov series.
Asimov on re-reading it: "I read it with mounting uneasiness. I kept waiting for something to happen, and nothing ever did. All three volumes, all the nearly quarter of a million words, consisted of thoughts and of conversation. No action. No physical suspense."

James Gunn on the Foundation series: "Action and romance have little to do with the success of the Trilogy—virtually all the action takes place offstage, and the romance is almost invisible—but the stories provide a detective-story fascination with the permutations and reversals of ideas.”
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: 8manpick on November 13, 2014, 12:53:14 PM
Been reading some books/series that I'm embarrassed to have not read yet. This week it was the Foundation series. It's obviously old sci-fi. There is some hilarious slang from the '50s sprinkled in there, and some of the science is obvious nonsense, but the story kept me going through three books. I'm even thinking of reading the prequels/sequels that he wrote in the '80s. Really glad I finally got around to reading my first Asimov series.
Asimov on re-reading it: "I read it with mounting uneasiness. I kept waiting for something to happen, and nothing ever did. All three volumes, all the nearly quarter of a million words, consisted of thoughts and of conversation. No action. No physical suspense."

James Gunn on the Foundation series: "Action and romance have little to do with the success of the Trilogy—virtually all the action takes place offstage, and the romance is almost invisible—but the stories provide a detective-story fascination with the permutations and reversals of ideas.”
:peek: it is one of my favorite series'. Just saw that quote on Grantland today
Title: book recommendations
Post by: bubbles4ksu on November 13, 2014, 01:28:14 PM
I read 80% of The Catcher in the Rye and hated it so I stopped and don't plan to finish. I'm sure it was an important read or whatever 50-some years ago but the shock value and rebelliousness is totally lost today. Let me know if there is a big ending, I guess.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Cire on November 13, 2014, 01:34:42 PM
nope, just a day in the life of a kid
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: michigancat on November 13, 2014, 02:12:26 PM
Jonathan Strange and Mr. Norrel. Hilarious. @chingon, it kind of reminds me of Sotweed Factor but a little easier to read.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Chingon on November 13, 2014, 02:15:33 PM
oooh, noted

Do you like the rest of her stuff?
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Mr Bread on November 13, 2014, 05:28:36 PM
Jonathan Strange and Mr. Norrel. Hilarious. @chingon, it kind of reminds me of Sotweed Factor but a little easier to read.


That looks like it's right in my wheelhouse.  I also learned that I am a Byronic hero when I went to look it up. 

Quote
"a man proud, moody, cynical, with defiance on his brow, and misery in his heart, a scorner of his kind, implacable in revenge, yet capable of deep and strong affection"

:eek:

Quote
He knew himself a villain—but he deem'd
The rest no better than the thing he seem'd;
And scorn'd the best as hypocrites who hid
Those deeds the bolder spirit plainly did.

Like if somebody was to tell you to describe me, you would have written that assuming you were capable.  Amazing!
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: ascentofstan on December 21, 2014, 06:26:31 PM
You're going to want to read this before the Ridley Scott/Matt Damon movie comes out next year.

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/c3/The_Martian_2014.jpg)
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: The Big Train on December 21, 2014, 09:41:19 PM
You're going to want to read this before the Ridley Scott/Matt Damon movie comes out next year.

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/c3/The_Martian_2014.jpg)

is it actually good or is it like mission to Mars bad?
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: ascentofstan on December 22, 2014, 11:50:07 AM
You're going to want to read this before the Ridley Scott/Matt Damon movie comes out next year.

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/c3/The_Martian_2014.jpg)

is it actually good or is it like mission to Mars bad?

It's like 2001: A Space Odyssey good (but like the film good, not the novel written concurrently with the film)
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on December 22, 2014, 12:06:26 PM
about 2/3 through 1Q84.

It's been harder than I thought keeping myself reminded this takes place in the infancy of computers.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on January 05, 2015, 08:31:15 AM
Just finished Dust, the second book in the Wool series.   Fun, but not quite as good as Wool IMHO.

Did you read Shift too?

it's on my nightstand.   
Ummm I think you might have read them out of order then...

Wool -> Shift -> Dust

then maaaaaaybe ...... Sand (maybe....)

I just read Sand over the holiday break. It was pretty good, maybe better than Wool.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on January 05, 2015, 11:28:04 AM
about 2/3 through 1Q84.

It's been harder than I thought keeping myself reminded this takes place in the infancy of computers.

finished it last night....that took longer than I thought.     Interesting story though.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on January 05, 2015, 11:37:24 AM
I started "reading" The Hobbit (actually listening to while driving for the first 5 chapters but I also have the ebook so I can read parts of it while not driving). Not sure how good it is going to be yet.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: michigancat on January 05, 2015, 11:38:12 AM
about 2/3 through 1Q84.

It's been harder than I thought keeping myself reminded this takes place in the infancy of computers.

finished it last night....that took longer than I thought.     Interesting story though.

Did you like the ending?
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on January 05, 2015, 11:51:40 AM
reading American Sniper right now. its okay... not as good as Lone Survivor but i enjoy these books.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: michigancat on January 05, 2015, 12:05:36 PM
I'm reading Hubris about the intelligence failures and poor decision making leading up to and during the Iraq War. It's mostly really interesting but goddam that Valerie Wilson leak investigation is such a snooze fest. Still a book everyone should read.

http://www.amazon.com/Hubris-Inside-Story-Scandal-Selling/dp/030734682X
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Dub on January 05, 2015, 12:16:25 PM
Debating on what book I should start reading.  I've considered starting the Fire and Ice GoT series but don't know. Has anyone gone back and read them after already seeing the series, worth it?  I also have considered The Road.  I've got amazon prime too so I can download anything else that people would recommend off that as well. 

Need someone to push me in a direction.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: michigancat on January 05, 2015, 12:26:16 PM
Debating on what book I should start reading.  I've considered starting the Fire and Ice GoT series but don't know. Has anyone gone back and read them after already seeing the series, worth it?  I also have considered The Road.  I've got amazon prime too so I can download anything else that people would recommend off that as well. 

Need someone to push me in a direction.


well I just named a book I think everyone should read. Just a thought.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on January 05, 2015, 12:47:34 PM
about 2/3 through 1Q84.

It's been harder than I thought keeping myself reminded this takes place in the infancy of computers.

finished it last night....that took longer than I thought.     Interesting story though.

Did you like the ending?

it was ok, but a bit of a letdown after the rest.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Asteriskhead on January 05, 2015, 01:48:11 PM
Everybody needs to read "A Gronking to Remember"
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Matt Mckee on January 05, 2015, 02:04:14 PM
Just started Gone Girl.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: libstradamus on January 05, 2015, 05:11:20 PM
Finished wool and shift. About a quarter through dust. I liked shift much more.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: libstradamus on January 05, 2015, 05:13:22 PM
Finished wool and shift. About a quarter through dust. I liked shift much more.

Except the solo chapters. I want to take a lead pipe to solo's head
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Cire on January 05, 2015, 09:04:31 PM
I'm reading Hubris about the intelligence failures and poor decision making leading up to and during the Iraq War. It's mostly really interesting but goddam that Valerie Wilson leak investigation is such a snooze fest. Still a book everyone should read.

http://www.amazon.com/Hubris-Inside-Story-Scandal-Selling/dp/030734682X
Just watch Bush's war
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Skipper44 on January 06, 2015, 09:39:31 AM
Debating on what book I should start reading.  I've considered starting the Fire and Ice GoT series but don't know. Has anyone gone back and read them after already seeing the series, worth it?  I also have considered The Road.  I've got amazon prime too so I can download anything else that people would recommend off that as well. 

Need someone to push me in a direction.
I watched season 1 then read the first 2 books and i think it really helped keep all the characters straight.  After season 2 i read all the remaining books and kind of lost my enthusiasm for watching the show a few episodes into season 4  :dunno:

The Road affected my like no other book, like seriously made start to think about becoming a prepper.  I love all of McCarthy's books tho, have you read any of the others?
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: 8manpick on January 06, 2015, 09:52:51 AM
Currently reading Blood Meridian. Very good, but kind of hard for me to get through. Just enough Spanish that is important to the story to be a pain.  Love All The Pretty Horses and No Country for Old Men
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Dub on January 06, 2015, 10:19:05 AM
Debating on what book I should start reading.  I've considered starting the Fire and Ice GoT series but don't know. Has anyone gone back and read them after already seeing the series, worth it?  I also have considered The Road.  I've got amazon prime too so I can download anything else that people would recommend off that as well. 

Need someone to push me in a direction.
I watched season 1 then read the first 2 books and i think it really helped keep all the characters straight.  After season 2 i read all the remaining books and kind of lost my enthusiasm for watching the show a few episodes into season 4  :dunno:

The Road affected my like no other book, like seriously made start to think about becoming a prepper.  I love all of McCarthy's books tho, have you read any of the others?

Nope, figured that would be the one to start with since it's got so much national praise.  What other ones are your favorites?
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Fldermaus on January 06, 2015, 10:25:29 AM
McCarthy is a master of making you care about characters and then doing terrible things to them. 
The Road is great. I seriously wouldn't recommend it to anyone with kids, though.  It really does affect you.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Skipper44 on January 06, 2015, 10:52:58 AM
Debating on what book I should start reading.  I've considered starting the Fire and Ice GoT series but don't know. Has anyone gone back and read them after already seeing the series, worth it?  I also have considered The Road.  I've got amazon prime too so I can download anything else that people would recommend off that as well. 

Need someone to push me in a direction.
I watched season 1 then read the first 2 books and i think it really helped keep all the characters straight.  After season 2 i read all the remaining books and kind of lost my enthusiasm for watching the show a few episodes into season 4  :dunno:

The Road affected my like no other book, like seriously made start to think about becoming a prepper.  I love all of McCarthy's books tho, have you read any of the others?

Nope, figured that would be the one to start with since it's got so much national praise.  What other ones are your favorites?
I have really liked all that I have read.  No Country for Old Men is maybe the most straightforward, I would start there unless you have seen the movie and are one that doesn't like reading the book after.  Any of the Border Trilogy would be good if you like westerns.

Blood Meridian is the weirdest and wouldn't be a great first McCarthy to read - his style takes a little getting used to.

Suttree is the saddest, which is really saying something so maybe not that one either.  I actually haven't finished the last hundred or so pages, had to just put it down and haven't brought myself to pick it back up.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: libstradamus on January 06, 2015, 12:17:57 PM
Currently reading Blood Meridian. Very good, but kind of hard for me to get through. Just enough Spanish that is important to the story to be a pain.  Love All The Pretty Horses and No Country for Old Men

Glad I read this on my tablet. I had to highlight and look up a lot of words.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Chingon on February 10, 2015, 04:18:13 PM
Just finished up:  The Shadow Of What Was Lost

Not terrible, the first 50 pages or so are pretty damn rough and should have been re-written.  Names for people and places are dumb.  Interesting enough plot.

Will probably read the next book when it comes out.

If you like fantasy (which I generally do not) this might be up your alley.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: ksupamplemousse on February 10, 2015, 04:24:10 PM
Reading "Kafka on the Shore" right now. Excited to finish this and go on a Murakami binge.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: bubbles4ksu on February 10, 2015, 04:25:35 PM
Which Tom Clancy book is the best? Is there another book of this genre that I should read instead?
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on February 10, 2015, 04:35:16 PM
Which Tom Clancy book is the best? Is there another book of this genre that I should read instead?

the best book is his first, hunt for red october. ive only read a few tho.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Mr Bread on February 10, 2015, 04:39:51 PM
Just finished up:  The Shadow Of What Was Lost

Not terrible, the first 50 pages or so are pretty damn rough and should have been re-written.  Names for people and places are dumb.  Interesting enough plot.

Will probably read the next book when it comes out.

If you like fantasy (which I generally do not) this might be up your alley.

How did you come to read this?
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Chingon on February 10, 2015, 04:46:47 PM
Just finished up:  The Shadow Of What Was Lost

Not terrible, the first 50 pages or so are pretty damn rough and should have been re-written.  Names for people and places are dumb.  Interesting enough plot.

Will probably read the next book when it comes out.

If you like fantasy (which I generally do not) this might be up your alley.

How did you come to read this?
Kindle Unlimited.  I figured I should try being more fair to genres of literature that I used to not like.  In particular what prompted this was reading some collections of short mystery stories (also Kindle Unlimited).  I like short stories a lot, but I have never really read any detective/mystery stuff besides Conan Doyle.  So, I gave it a shot figuring they are short and free.  I ended up really enjoying about half of them.  This made me realize I should go back and revisit some genres like fantasy/scifi that I used to strongly avoid.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: CNS on February 10, 2015, 04:47:32 PM
If you enjoy fantasy, try Riyria Revelations.  Three books that start with Theft of Swords.  They were not amazing, but still very good.  There is a prequel series that is two books deep(out of eventually up to 12).  They are both good too, but def start with the Theft of Swords first.

They aren't GoT, and not as good as The Blade Itself either, but they read quickly and I enjoyed them a lot.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Mr Bread on February 10, 2015, 04:53:07 PM
If you enjoy fantasy, try Riyria Revelations.  Three books that start with Theft of Swords.  They were not amazing, but still very good.  There is a prequel series that is two books deep(out of eventually up to 12).  They are both good too, but def start with the Theft of Swords first.

They aren't GoT, and not as good as The Blade Itself either, but they read quickly and I enjoyed them a lot.

Have you read any Sanderson?  I see his name thrown around.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: bubbles4ksu on February 10, 2015, 04:59:03 PM
Which Tom Clancy book is the best? Is there another book of this genre that I should read instead?

the best book is his first, hunt for red october. ive only read a few tho.
Hmm idk if I would like reading in Connery's voice.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: CNS on February 10, 2015, 05:06:08 PM
If you enjoy fantasy, try Riyria Revelations.  Three books that start with Theft of Swords.  They were not amazing, but still very good.  There is a prequel series that is two books deep(out of eventually up to 12).  They are both good too, but def start with the Theft of Swords first.

They aren't GoT, and not as good as The Blade Itself either, but they read quickly and I enjoyed them a lot.

Have you read any Sanderson?  I see his name thrown around.

I don't think I have.  What is his/her best?
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Mr Bread on February 10, 2015, 05:12:07 PM
I don't know.  I just see his name frequently along with Rothfuss. 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brandon_Sanderson (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brandon_Sanderson)
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Pete on February 10, 2015, 06:11:55 PM

If you enjoy fantasy, try Riyria Revelations.  Three books that start with Theft of Swords.  They were not amazing, but still very good.  There is a prequel series that is two books deep(out of eventually up to 12).  They are both good too, but def start with the Theft of Swords first.

They aren't GoT, and not as good as The Blade Itself either, but they read quickly and I enjoyed them a lot.

Have you read any Sanderson?  I see his name thrown around.

I am a fan of Sanderson.  If you like Fantasy, go back and read Bread and my posts in this thread.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Pete on February 10, 2015, 06:15:49 PM

If you enjoy fantasy, try Riyria Revelations.  Three books that start with Theft of Swords.  They were not amazing, but still very good.  There is a prequel series that is two books deep(out of eventually up to 12).  They are both good too, but def start with the Theft of Swords first.

They aren't GoT, and not as good as The Blade Itself either, but they read quickly and I enjoyed them a lot.

Have you read any Sanderson?  I see his name thrown around.

I don't think I have.  What is his/her best?

I read the Mistborn series.  It was fun, clever, and different than most.

Brent Weeks is a fun author too.  Night Angel series was a good time.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Pete on February 10, 2015, 06:16:43 PM

Which Tom Clancy book is the best? Is there another book of this genre that I should read instead?

the best book is his first, hunt for red october. ive only read a few tho.
Hmm idk if I would like reading in Connery's voice.

I really should start reading Clancy.  You have inspired me. 
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Asteriskhead on February 10, 2015, 06:18:30 PM
I'm late to the McCarthy discussion, but those of you who like him need to read Child of God. lib, i can loan you my copy.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: libstradamus on February 10, 2015, 06:21:28 PM
I can loan you no country for old Men!
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Kat Kid on February 10, 2015, 06:28:17 PM

I can loan you no country for old Men!

It is excellent.  As good as the movie is the book is just as good and may even surpass it.  I hesitate though because of just how incredible Jones is in the film.  I thought they were companions and worked very well together.

I liked it so much I even stole the idea and wrote a mean post about Snyder using the sheriff as the vehicle to mock him.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on February 10, 2015, 06:51:50 PM
Which Tom Clancy book is the best? Is there another book of this genre that I should read instead?

they are all pretty god through Sum of All Fears.   Stephen Coonts is kind of a "Clancy Lite" (meaning they are 400 pages, not 800).
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: libstradamus on February 10, 2015, 07:26:51 PM

I can loan you no country for old Men!

It is excellent.  As good as the movie is the book is just as good and may even surpass it.  I hesitate though because of just how incredible Jones is in the film.  I thought they were companions and worked very well together.

I liked it so much I even stole the idea and wrote a mean post about Snyder using the sheriff as the vehicle to mock him.

it's the most screenplayey book i've ever seen
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: ben ji on February 10, 2015, 07:29:43 PM
Red Rising and Golden Son are very good.

Think hunger games mixed with 1984 set in space.

Also "Red Storm Rising" is my favorite Clancy book.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: bubbles4ksu on February 10, 2015, 09:40:26 PM
Which Tom Clancy book is the best? Is there another book of this genre that I should read instead?

they are all pretty god through Sum of All Fears.   Stephen Coonts is kind of a "Clancy Lite" (meaning they are 400 pages, not 800).
Thanks. Pete and I will begin reading immediately.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: bubbles4ksu on February 10, 2015, 09:49:44 PM
Storm of Steel by Ernst Junger is a Dan Carlin Hardcore History recommendo and it is terrific. Ernst was the perfect soldier and he tells his story with artistry that doesn't exist in 21st century combatants.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on February 11, 2015, 08:22:48 AM

If you enjoy fantasy, try Riyria Revelations.  Three books that start with Theft of Swords.  They were not amazing, but still very good.  There is a prequel series that is two books deep(out of eventually up to 12).  They are both good too, but def start with the Theft of Swords first.

They aren't GoT, and not as good as The Blade Itself either, but they read quickly and I enjoyed them a lot.

Have you read any Sanderson?  I see his name thrown around.

I don't think I have.  What is his/her best?

I read the Mistborn series.  It was fun, clever, and different than most.

Brent Weeks is a fun author too.  Night Angel series was a good time.

The only Sanderson books I have read are the Wheel of Time ones that he wrote after Robert Jordan died. I think I need to read the Mistborn. I read a couple of chapters of the first one online and then never got around to getting the book.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Jabeez on February 11, 2015, 09:32:43 AM

If you enjoy fantasy, try Riyria Revelations.  Three books that start with Theft of Swords.  They were not amazing, but still very good.  There is a prequel series that is two books deep(out of eventually up to 12).  They are both good too, but def start with the Theft of Swords first.

They aren't GoT, and not as good as The Blade Itself either, but they read quickly and I enjoyed them a lot.

Have you read any Sanderson?  I see his name thrown around.

I don't think I have.  What is his/her best?

I read the Mistborn series.  It was fun, clever, and different than most.

Brent Weeks is a fun author too.  Night Angel series was a good time.

The only Sanderson books I have read are the Wheel of Time ones that he wrote after Robert Jordan died. I think I need to read the Mistborn. I read a couple of chapters of the first one online and then never got around to getting the book.

As someone who pretends to hate teen drama fiction, I was surprised I really enjoyed the mistborn series as well.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Pete on February 12, 2015, 04:56:06 PM
I am putting off Clancy.  I want some brain candy, and am going to see if Ann Rice can unjump her vampire shark.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: 8manpick on February 12, 2015, 07:01:14 PM
I just read "Gang Leader for a Day" by Sudhiir Venkatesh (sp?). It was very good and I'd recommend to anyone.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Kat Kid on February 12, 2015, 07:03:24 PM

I just read "Gang Leader for a Day" by Sudhiir Venkatesh (sp?). It was very good and I'd recommend to anyone.

He has another book about the underground economy of Chicago that includes a bit more technical writing but also includes a lot more interesting stories of poor entrepreneurship and how incredibly closed and removed the ghetto economy is from the rest of the economy.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: 8manpick on February 12, 2015, 07:14:31 PM

I just read "Gang Leader for a Day" by Sudhiir Venkatesh (sp?). It was very good and I'd recommend to anyone.

He has another book about the underground economy of Chicago that includes a bit more technical writing but also includes a lot more interesting stories of poor entrepreneurship and how incredibly closed and removed the ghetto economy is from the rest of the economy.
Read it on your recommendation in this thread a couple years ago :thumbs:
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Kat Kid on February 12, 2015, 07:48:56 PM
OMG!  butter me up already!  :blush:
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: michigancat on February 12, 2015, 07:50:45 PM

I just read "Gang Leader for a Day" by Sudhiir Venkatesh (sp?). It was very good and I'd recommend to anyone.

He has another book about the underground economy of Chicago that includes a bit more technical writing but also includes a lot more interesting stories of poor entrepreneurship and how incredibly closed and removed the ghetto economy is from the rest of the economy.
Read it on your recommendation in this thread a couple years ago :thumbs:
what's it's called? Sounds awesome
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: 114Hickory on February 12, 2015, 08:12:16 PM
Off the Books
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: 8manpick on February 12, 2015, 11:10:29 PM
He also did one based in NYC that I want to read
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on February 13, 2015, 08:06:42 AM
I'm reading Edge of Eternity, the third book in the Century Trilogy by Ken Follett. I'm only 11% in and it is very good. This may be the best book series I have read and I didn't even think I liked historical fiction before I started it.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Kat Kid on February 13, 2015, 08:15:00 AM

I just read "Gang Leader for a Day" by Sudhiir Venkatesh (sp?). It was very good and I'd recommend to anyone.

He has another book about the underground economy of Chicago that includes a bit more technical writing but also includes a lot more interesting stories of poor entrepreneurship and how incredibly closed and removed the ghetto economy is from the rest of the economy.
Read it on your recommendation in this thread a couple years ago :thumbs:
what's it's called? Sounds awesome

PM me your address and I will send it to you.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: michigancat on February 13, 2015, 08:53:13 AM
I already checked and it's at my library, I'll save you the postage!
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: michigancat on February 13, 2015, 08:53:42 AM
^Get your special lady something nice for Valentine's Day
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Asteriskhead on February 17, 2015, 11:27:45 AM
My current work duties don't require much mental strain for a good portion of the day. I've taken to listening to audio books during this time. I started listening to 1Q84 yesterday, and holy crap, it's got me by the balls.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: CNS on February 17, 2015, 11:37:52 AM
Just starting Gone Girl.  Want to knock it out before the movie hits rentals.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on February 17, 2015, 11:40:18 AM
My current work duties don't require much mental strain for a good portion of the day. I've taken to listening to audio books during this time. I started listening to 1Q84 yesterday, and holy crap, it's got me by the balls.

man, thats gotta be a long listen.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Asteriskhead on February 17, 2015, 11:41:41 AM
I listened to that one last week (Gone Girl). It's great too. Ready Player One narrated by Will Wheaton was very fun also.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Asteriskhead on February 17, 2015, 11:43:11 AM
My current work duties don't require much mental strain for a good portion of the day. I've taken to listening to audio books during this time. I started listening to 1Q84 yesterday, and holy crap, it's got me by the balls.

man, thats gotta be a long listen.

~48 hours, but you can adjust the pace in audible without changing the pitch so it will go a bit quicker.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Tobias on February 17, 2015, 12:24:31 PM
also known as the Trim method
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Fedor on February 17, 2015, 01:32:45 PM
My current work duties don't require much mental strain for a good portion of the day. I've taken to listening to audio books during this time. I started listening to 1Q84 yesterday, and holy crap, it's got me by the balls.
I just started reading this yesterday!   :thumbs:
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: pissclams on February 17, 2015, 01:51:17 PM
i bought this book (hardcover), very interesting
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51MilnWUgvL._SY344_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg)
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Chingon on February 17, 2015, 05:02:51 PM
Currently reading

The Apprentice: My Life in the Kitchen by Jacques Pépin

It's pretty damn good.  He has some great stories. 
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: libstradamus on February 19, 2015, 08:23:10 PM
http://www.openculture.com/2013/08/cormac-mccarthys-punctuation-rules.html

 :love:  eff you punctuation
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: CNS on February 27, 2015, 04:14:08 PM
Just starting Gone Girl.  Want to knock it out before the movie hits rentals.
Meh
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Emo EMAW on March 02, 2015, 08:05:41 PM
Anyone read any biographies of David Livongstone?  Any one in particular you might recommend?
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Mr Bread on March 03, 2015, 10:56:15 AM
Just finished The Steel Remains by Richard K. Morgan.  It contained a surprising amount of very graphically depicted hardcore gay sex.  Like a geez guy amount of it.  I suppose it was okay on the whole. 
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: SkinnyBenny on March 03, 2015, 11:52:01 AM
guys I have sucked so bad at reading lately. motivate me.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on March 03, 2015, 11:53:36 AM
guys I have sucked so bad at reading lately. motivate me.

Butterfly in the sky, I can go twice as high.
Take a look, it's in a book, a Reading Rainbow!
I can go anywhere.
Friends to know,
and ways to grow.
A Reading Rainbow!
I can be anything.
Take a look,
it's in a book.
A Reading Rainbow.
A Reading Rainbow.
A Reading Rainbow.
A Reading Rainbow!
A Reading Rainbow!
Butterfly in the sky, I can go twice as high.
I can go anywhere.
Friends to know,
A Reading Rainbow!
I can be anything.
Take a look,
A Reading Rainbow.
A Reading Rainbow.
A Reading Rainbow!
Take a look, it's in a book, a Reading Rainbow!
I can go anywhere.
and ways to grow.
A Reading Rainbow!
I can be anything.
it's in a book.
A Reading Rainbow.
A Reading Rainbow!
A Reading Rainbow!
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on March 03, 2015, 12:39:45 PM
guys I have sucked...

I thought this was in reference to the gay porn book for a second.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Dub on March 03, 2015, 12:44:24 PM
My current work duties don't require much mental strain for a good portion of the day. I've taken to listening to audio books during this time. I started listening to 1Q84 yesterday, and holy crap, it's got me by the balls.

man, thats gotta be a long listen.

Just started reading 1Q84 too.   Pretty good so far, didn't realize how long it was before I started (Kindle).   :runaway:
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Brock Landers on March 03, 2015, 01:13:12 PM
Life, Keith Richards' autobiography

All the Stones wanted to do when they first started was to make enough money to pay Charlie Watts to join them and to buy their own guitar strings.

Mick was/is suprisingly insecure for one of the most successful lead singers ever.  At one point  Mick wanted to retitle the band as Mick Jagger and the Rolling Stones.

And the urban legend of Keith snorting his father's ashes was addressed.  Did he?  Yes, but not mixed with coke like the rumors said.  He was moving his father's ashes and some of them fell out of the container and onto a table.  Instead of just brushing the ashes onto the floor he swiped them up with his finger and then snorted.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: michigancat on March 05, 2015, 03:21:08 PM
Reading Off the Books - the author's got an interesting style. Like it.

Also reading Shift omnibus. Incredible combination of a great story with horrible prose.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Chingon on March 05, 2015, 03:47:32 PM
Also reading Shift omnibus. Incredible combination of a great story with horrible prose.
yup, just like ASOIAF imho
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Chingon on March 05, 2015, 03:48:42 PM
For those in a history groove:

The Cheese and the Worms

pretty interesting stuff
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: libstradamus on March 05, 2015, 09:04:12 PM
Also reading Shift omnibus. Incredible combination of a great story with horrible prose.
yup, just like ASOIAF imho

And also would make a great hbo show!
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: michigancat on March 05, 2015, 09:26:46 PM
Also reading Shift omnibus. Incredible combination of a great story with horrible prose.
yup, just like ASOIAF imho

And also would make a great hbo show!
I'm super pumped for Jonathan Strange and Mr. Norrell on BBC. That had a great story AND fantastic dialogue.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Asteriskhead on March 05, 2015, 11:41:35 PM
http://www.openculture.com/2013/08/cormac-mccarthys-punctuation-rules.html

 :love:  eff you punctuation

such a boss.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Pete on April 07, 2015, 12:09:25 PM

Just finished The Steel Remains by Richard K. Morgan.  It contained a surprising amount of very graphically depicted hardcore gay sex.  Like a geez guy amount of it.  I suppose it was okay on the whole.

Any chance you mean two chicks :sad:

"OK on the whole" isn't the greatest endorsement you have ever given.

Have you read the Black Company series?  I haven't, but have contemplated it frequently. 
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Pete on April 07, 2015, 12:10:15 PM
Oh, and I am soldering through Abercrombie's new YA series.  Felt that I owed it to Joe.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: steve dave on April 07, 2015, 12:17:19 PM
I'm super pumped for Jonathan Strange and Mr. Norrell on BBC. That had a great story AND fantastic dialogue.

if it's like the book the first 12 episodes will be about giving you the feel of a forest or a house or something and really getting close up on what it looks like and immersing the watcher in this rough ridin' place without anything actually happening.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: CNS on April 07, 2015, 12:17:38 PM
Is that the one with Half a King, or whatevs?  If so, not good?  I bought the HaK book but haven't read yet. 
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: steve dave on April 07, 2015, 12:25:04 PM
you know what movie I would like to see made? The Book of the New Sun. Just to see how they would do it. and to watch people watching it like, "what in the eff is going on here?"
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Pete on April 07, 2015, 12:58:46 PM

Is that the one with Half a King, or whatevs?  If so, not good?  I bought the HaK book but haven't read yet.

Ya, it was good.  I was entertained.  Just started the second one.  I think people are just grumpy that Abercrombie stooped to YA.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Fedor on April 07, 2015, 01:35:34 PM

Just finished The Steel Remains by Richard K. Morgan.  It contained a surprising amount of very graphically depicted hardcore gay sex.  Like a geez guy amount of it.  I suppose it was okay on the whole.

Any chance you mean two chicks :sad:

"OK on the whole" isn't the greatest endorsement you have ever given.

Have you read the Black Company series?  I haven't, but have contemplated it frequently.
I have read it and enjoyed it.  I don't think I went all the way through them. 
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Mr Bread on April 07, 2015, 02:21:49 PM

Just finished The Steel Remains by Richard K. Morgan.  It contained a surprising amount of very graphically depicted hardcore gay sex.  Like a geez guy amount of it.  I suppose it was okay on the whole.

Any chance you mean two chicks :sad:

"OK on the whole" isn't the greatest endorsement you have ever given.

Have you read the Black Company series?  I haven't, but have contemplated it frequently.

Not two ladies.  I was in a mood when I wrote that.  Have not read the black company. 
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: sys on April 07, 2015, 02:29:22 PM
Have you read the Black Company series?

i read one once.  got bored with it, not sure if i finished it.  i used to like his fantasy/detective books a little.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Pete on April 07, 2015, 03:13:45 PM

Have you read the Black Company series?

i read one once.  got bored with it, not sure if i finished it.  i used to like his fantasy/detective books a little.

I don't really like most detective books.  I don't care for the whole "who dunnit" thing.  I have really gotten into fantasy over the last 7 or 8 years. 
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: michigancat on April 13, 2015, 01:44:45 PM
Read this over vacation:

http://www.amazon.com/American-Nations-History-Regional-Cultures/dp/0143122029/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1428950376&sr=8-1&keywords=American+Nations%3A+A+History+of+the+Eleven+Rival+Regional+Cultures+of+North+America

The first half, about how different the colonies were, was really, really good. Then the second half he tried to make every major event in American history fit into his neat little boundaries he created in the first half. It definitely made me want to learn more about New France and Champlain but overall it was pretty meh just because of the awful second half.

Also reading The Savage Detectives. Like, hardly anything seems to happen, but I love it.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Chingon on April 13, 2015, 01:51:53 PM
Also reading The Savage Detectives. Like, hardly anything seems to happen, but I love it.
That on my to-do list.  I am excited about it.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: 8manpick on April 13, 2015, 02:05:16 PM
Just finished up re-reading Player Piano by Vonnegut. Wow! For a dystopian novel written in the early 50's it hits incredibly close to home. Certainly worth a read.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: CNS on April 15, 2015, 01:59:02 PM
Dirty White Boys.  I am two chapters in.  Does it get any better?  I mean, so far this guy has used roughly half a chapter to describe the main guy's dick and also used "bulging muscles" to describe the same guy something like 3 times over a period of 1-2 pages.  The first chapter is quite possible the worst chapter I have read, of any book, for a very long time. 

Does it do a complete 180 anytime soon?

Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Mr Bread on April 15, 2015, 03:51:52 PM
half a chapter to describe a diirk?  you cannot be serious. 
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: puniraptor on April 15, 2015, 03:53:24 PM
downloaded acc's Childhood's End onto the kindle. hoping to knock it out before it gets the syfy channel miniseries treatment.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on April 15, 2015, 04:07:36 PM
Dirty White Boys.  I am two chapters in.  Does it get any better?  I mean, so far this guy has used roughly half a chapter to describe the main guy's dick and also used "bulging muscles" to describe the same guy something like 3 times over a period of 1-2 pages.  The first chapter is quite possible the worst chapter I have read, of any book, for a very long time. 

Does it do a complete 180 anytime soon?

I thought it was okay, aside from all the graphic homoeroticism.   
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Pete on April 15, 2015, 04:47:21 PM
Guys, I don't write these books, I just read them.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Mr Bread on April 15, 2015, 05:04:45 PM
well now i'm puzzled as to why you don't want read my gay sex books. 
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Mr Bread on April 15, 2015, 05:07:28 PM
i just finished the night angel books and they're easily as good as those.  #recommendation
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Dub on April 15, 2015, 05:15:13 PM
I'm about 1/3 the way through 1Q84 and I'm still not quite sure wtf is going on but it has my balls.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Pete on April 16, 2015, 07:10:54 AM

i just finished the night angel books and they're easily as good as those.  #recommendation

OK, OK.

I am almost done with this dorky YA Abercrombie book. 

Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: 8manpick on April 16, 2015, 09:14:49 AM


Ham on Rye - Charles Bukowski

I just read this.  Quick read, really interesting point of view and very intense.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Fedor on April 16, 2015, 10:23:52 AM
I'm about 1/3 the way through 1Q84 and I'm still not quite sure wtf is going on but it has my balls.
I am at the same place, but I know what is going on and it is only cupping my balls right now.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Asteriskhead on April 16, 2015, 04:18:29 PM


Ham on Rye - Charles Bukowski

I just read this.  Quick read, really interesting point of view and very intense.

I rough ridin' love Bukowski.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Pete on April 19, 2015, 05:25:03 PM

well now i'm puzzled as to why you don't want read my gay sex books.

Just downloaded The Steel Remains.  It's on your head if this turns me into a gay.

The second Abercrombie YA book, Half the World, was decent at best, and very YA....very predictable dialog and "jabs" between characters. 
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Mr Bread on April 19, 2015, 08:11:22 PM
It's really just a couple of pages in the first book, but damn is it intense.  Raw.  You come out of that without an erection and you can walk through the rest of your days knowing with absolute certainty that you are not in fact a homosexual.  #petesayhellotopete
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Mr Bread on April 19, 2015, 08:14:38 PM
Or you could just skip it, but I have this thing where I have to read all of a book.  My wife laughed a lot after I told her about it and then she read some of it. 
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Pete on April 20, 2015, 07:43:23 PM

It's really just a couple of pages in the first book, but damn is it intense.  Raw.  You come out of that without an erection and you can walk through the rest of your days knowing with absolute certainty that you are not in fact a homosexual.  #petesayhellotopete

I am about 15% through it and no boners yet.  I will face this head on, and won't skip it!

I am enjoying the writing style, and it's an interesting world he has crafted.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Mr Bread on April 21, 2015, 02:20:47 PM

It's really just a couple of pages in the first book, but damn is it intense.  Raw.  You come out of that without an erection and you can walk through the rest of your days knowing with absolute certainty that you are not in fact a homosexual.  #petesayhellotopete

I am about 15% through it and no boners yet.  I will face this head on, and won't skip it!

I am enjoying the writing style, and it's an interesting world he has crafted.

yeah, he does pretty well with the background mythology. 

apparently he wrote some "hardboiled cyberpunk" novels before these that are supposed to be good and are sort of tenuously prequely.  i'm going to read them at some point. 
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: CNS on April 21, 2015, 02:50:25 PM
Reading King's newish one, Revival.  Only about a third of the way through it and it is reading fast.  King always does read fast, right up until he shits on the story.  Supposedly this one gets him back to his wheel house of horror.  Will report back.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: CNS on April 27, 2015, 04:22:20 PM
Revival:

Meh.

It read quickly and wasn't complete dog crap.

It was better than Dr. Sleep, but pretty much on par with what he has pumped out lately.

Also, the alleged return to horror is completely false.  He really needs more cocaine in his life.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Mr Bread on April 27, 2015, 04:25:03 PM
dr. sleep was crap. 
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: CNS on April 27, 2015, 04:30:31 PM
yep

Don't waste your time on Revival.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: michigancat on May 04, 2015, 11:39:57 AM
Just finished The Savage Detectives and need a little non-fiction. Cheese and the Worm isn't at my library and is too expensive on kindle. What's good?
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: CNS on May 04, 2015, 01:18:47 PM
Doesn't SF Library Exchange?
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: michigancat on May 04, 2015, 01:20:30 PM
I don't live in SF and my library doesn't do the exchange.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: BringBackEcoKat on May 04, 2015, 02:38:30 PM
I recently read "the noticer" by Andy Andrews. It's probably the best book that I've ever read. Pretty sure it's nonfiction. Google says that it is a Christian book, but I really didn't get that feel from it. It's an easy read.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Mr Bread on May 04, 2015, 05:29:21 PM
(http://aristopr.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/TFS_AndyAndrewsWEB.jpg)
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Mr Bread on May 04, 2015, 05:31:16 PM
author handsomeness aside, that definitely sounds like what the doctor ordered for rusty. 
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Mr Bread on May 04, 2015, 05:33:47 PM
nobody is going to help you if you don't help yourself first is what i always say every single time. 
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: michigancat on May 05, 2015, 09:35:14 AM
yes some Christian self-help from a glamour-shot Larry Bird is exactly what I was looking for.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Pete on May 10, 2015, 01:54:43 PM


It's really just a couple of pages in the first book, but damn is it intense.  Raw.  You come out of that without an erection and you can walk through the rest of your days knowing with absolute certainty that you are not in fact a homosexual.  #petesayhellotopete

I am about 15% through it and no boners yet.  I will face this head on, and won't skip it!

I am enjoying the writing style, and it's an interesting world he has crafted.

yeah, he does pretty well with the background mythology. 

apparently he wrote some "hardboiled cyberpunk" novels before these that are supposed to be good and are sort of tenuously prequely.  i'm going to read them at some point.

Finished The Steel Remains.  The hot gay action was just as you said it would be, and no boners.  Was I mildly curious?  I won't discuss that in polite book thread company.   

Have you read the rest in the series?
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Mr Bread on May 11, 2015, 10:03:42 AM


It's really just a couple of pages in the first book, but damn is it intense.  Raw.  You come out of that without an erection and you can walk through the rest of your days knowing with absolute certainty that you are not in fact a homosexual.  #petesayhellotopete

I am about 15% through it and no boners yet.  I will face this head on, and won't skip it!

I am enjoying the writing style, and it's an interesting world he has crafted.

yeah, he does pretty well with the background mythology. 

apparently he wrote some "hardboiled cyberpunk" novels before these that are supposed to be good and are sort of tenuously prequely.  i'm going to read them at some point.

Finished The Steel Remains.  The hot gay action was just as you said it would be, and no boners.  Was I mildly curious?  I won't discuss that in polite book thread company.   

Have you read the rest in the series?

Yeah.  I liked them.  Would recommend.  I'm just finishing up another trilogy, the Broken Empire, by some bro named Mark Lawrence.  It's good too.  You should read it next if you haven't.  More dark even than GRRM or Abercrombie though. 
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Pete on May 11, 2015, 10:24:52 AM



It's really just a couple of pages in the first book, but damn is it intense.  Raw.  You come out of that without an erection and you can walk through the rest of your days knowing with absolute certainty that you are not in fact a homosexual.  #petesayhellotopete

I am about 15% through it and no boners yet.  I will face this head on, and won't skip it!

I am enjoying the writing style, and it's an interesting world he has crafted.

yeah, he does pretty well with the background mythology. 

apparently he wrote some "hardboiled cyberpunk" novels before these that are supposed to be good and are sort of tenuously prequely.  i'm going to read them at some point.

Finished The Steel Remains.  The hot gay action was just as you said it would be, and no boners.  Was I mildly curious?  I won't discuss that in polite book thread company.   

Have you read the rest in the series?

Yeah.  I liked them.  Would recommend.  I'm just finishing up another trilogy, the Broken Empire, by some bro named Mark Lawrence.  It's good too.  You should read it next if you haven't.  More dark even than GRRM or Abercrombie though.

Will do
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: SdK on May 11, 2015, 11:26:32 AM
Dragon Tattoo Trilogy
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: SdK on May 11, 2015, 11:26:59 AM
Dragon Tattoo Trilogy
Also the Swedish movies are much better.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 11, 2015, 11:30:28 AM
Dragon Tattoo Trilogy

Did you know that a fourth book is coming out?
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: SdK on May 13, 2015, 01:16:41 AM
Dragon Tattoo Trilogy

Did you know that a fourth book is coming out?
Written by who? Larsson died in 2004 and those were the last three manuscripts he turned in.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 13, 2015, 08:11:24 AM
Dragon Tattoo Trilogy

Did you know that a fourth book is coming out?
Written by who? Larsson died in 2004 and those were the last three manuscripts he turned in.

They got a new author.
David Lagercrantz
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 13, 2015, 08:15:54 AM
Well I read the first two books in the Discworld series that SD suggested. They were good, but they didn't have that "I really want to ignore all other things to read this" feeling.....So should I read more of them or switch to something else?

Nice of SD to leave right when I am in the middle of this crisis.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: SdK on May 13, 2015, 09:08:02 AM
Dragon Tattoo Trilogy

Did you know that a fourth book is coming out?
Written by who? Larsson died in 2004 and those were the last three manuscripts he turned in.

They got a new author.
David Lagercrantz
I'll give it a go. I'm excited for a fourth book. Thanks for letting me know. :D
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Mr Bread on May 18, 2015, 03:56:07 PM

I'm just finishing up another trilogy, the Broken Empire, by some bro named Mark Lawrence.

so the last one is not good.  it's like he lost interest.  very strange for someone's talent to just completely abandon them like that only three books into a career. 
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: michigancat on May 18, 2015, 03:59:19 PM
I settled on this non-fiction book - thanks for nothing, guys:

http://www.amazon.com/Age-Ambition-Chasing-Fortune-Truth/dp/1491581441

I'm about 1/4 of the way through and it's really nice so far. The author does a nice job using personal stories to highlight how and why recent changes in Chinese policy have changed things.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Pete on May 18, 2015, 04:06:58 PM


I'm just finishing up another trilogy, the Broken Empire, by some bro named Mark Lawrence.

so the last one is not good.  it's like he lost interest.  very strange for someone's talent to just completely abandon them like that only three books into a career.

You are a fast reader.  I am only half through the "Cold Commands."  This "gray places" dream like stuff is tiring.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Mr Bread on May 18, 2015, 04:10:17 PM
I settled on this non-fiction book - thanks for nothing, guys:

http://www.amazon.com/Age-Ambition-Chasing-Fortune-Truth/dp/1491581441

I'm about 1/4 of the way through and it's really nice so far. The author does a nice job using personal stories to highlight how and why recent changes in Chinese policy have changed things.

i can't tell that you read those books.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Mr Bread on May 18, 2015, 04:15:34 PM


I'm just finishing up another trilogy, the Broken Empire, by some bro named Mark Lawrence.

so the last one is not good.  it's like he lost interest.  very strange for someone's talent to just completely abandon them like that only three books into a career.

You are a fast reader.  I am only half through the "Cold Commands."  This "gray places" dream like stuff is tiring.

i got a little wrapped up in it because it's like a mystery that i wanted answered.  like wtf is going on and what happened in the past that made it this way?  i love backstory and revelations. 

i'm two books into this demon cycle series by peter v. brett.  it seems pretty solid so far.  your guy pat rothfuss recommended him to me.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: michigancat on May 18, 2015, 04:23:18 PM
I settled on this non-fiction book - thanks for nothing, guys:

http://www.amazon.com/Age-Ambition-Chasing-Fortune-Truth/dp/1491581441

I'm about 1/4 of the way through and it's really nice so far. The author does a nice job using personal stories to highlight how and why recent changes in Chinese policy have changed things.

i can't tell that you read those books.

that's fair. Just have to take my word for it, I guess!
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: michigancat on May 18, 2015, 04:24:58 PM
there's a really good and funny chapter where the author goes on a Chinese tour of Europe and they stay at Best Westerns at eat only Chinese food. It relates the funny anecdotes to Chinese history and their evolving views on the West. Is this the kind of hard hitting reviews you are looking for?
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Pete on May 18, 2015, 04:33:29 PM



I'm just finishing up another trilogy, the Broken Empire, by some bro named Mark Lawrence.

so the last one is not good.  it's like he lost interest.  very strange for someone's talent to just completely abandon them like that only three books into a career.

You are a fast reader.  I am only half through the "Cold Commands."  This "gray places" dream like stuff is tiring.

i got a little wrapped up in it because it's like a mystery that i wanted answered.  like wtf is going on and what happened in the past that made it this way?  i love backstory and revelations. 

i'm two books into this demon cycle series by peter v. brett.  it seems pretty solid so far.  your guy pat rothfuss recommended him to me.

Well, you can tell Pat to go ahead and finish that third book.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Mr Bread on May 18, 2015, 04:47:20 PM
there's a really good and funny chapter where the author goes on a Chinese tour of Europe and they stay at Best Westerns at eat only Chinese food. It relates the funny anecdotes to Chinese history and their evolving views on the West. Is this the kind of hard hitting reviews you are looking for?

no, i just meant i can't tell in your personality as expressed on this bbs.   it's not evident is some tangible or demonstrable way.  i believe that you read them.   
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on May 19, 2015, 08:30:12 AM
Dad had a copy of Bill O'Reilly's Killing Patton.   It was an interesting read.   I knew how he died, but not the rest of the story.   If even half of it is true, it really begs some questions.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: michigancat on May 19, 2015, 08:41:33 AM
Dad had a copy of Bill O'Reilly's Killing Patton.   It was an interesting read.   I knew how he died, but not the rest of the story.   If even half of it is true, it really begs some questions.
I would be skeptical that half of it was true. (Note: I know nothing about how Patton died)
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on May 19, 2015, 08:54:47 AM
everyone shutup and read The Racketeer
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: The1BigWillie on May 19, 2015, 10:32:14 AM
Dad had a copy of Bill O'Reilly's Killing Patton.   It was an interesting read.   I knew how he died, but not the rest of the story.   If even half of it is true, it really begs some questions.
I would be skeptical that half of it was true. (Note: I know nothing about how Patton died)

I finished this a week or so ago. Wasn't a bad read but mainly just a re-hash of events most anyone who has paid much attention to WWII history would already know. 
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: The1BigWillie on May 19, 2015, 10:33:17 AM
I started "The Things They Carried" - by Tim O'Brien last night... It was tough to put down to go to sleep.  I think it's going to be an emotional/good read.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on May 19, 2015, 10:35:43 AM
Dad had a copy of Bill O'Reilly's Killing Patton.   It was an interesting read.   I knew how he died, but not the rest of the story.   If even half of it is true, it really begs some questions.
I would be skeptical that half of it was true. (Note: I know nothing about how Patton died)

I wouldn't have read it otherwise, but I was out of books and it was in the rainy day drawer.

The alleged assasination plot was new to me.   I'd known the general facts about his death and of course the general plot of WWII.    It is puzzling how it was handled and the peculiarities of certain events (if they are true).
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on May 26, 2015, 03:42:17 PM
Well I read the first two books in the Discworld series that SD suggested. They were good, but they didn't have that "I really want to ignore all other things to read this" feeling.....So should I read more of them or switch to something else?

Nice of SD to leave right when I am in the middle of this crisis.

Well I went ahead and started the third book, Sorcery...mostly because I couldn't think of anything else I wanted to read right away. It is ok, but pretty much the same as the others so far.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Mr Bread on May 26, 2015, 03:52:58 PM



I'm just finishing up another trilogy, the Broken Empire, by some bro named Mark Lawrence.

so the last one is not good.  it's like he lost interest.  very strange for someone's talent to just completely abandon them like that only three books into a career.

You are a fast reader.  I am only half through the "Cold Commands."  This "gray places" dream like stuff is tiring.

i got a little wrapped up in it because it's like a mystery that i wanted answered.  like wtf is going on and what happened in the past that made it this way?  i love backstory and revelations. 

i'm two books into this demon cycle series by peter v. brett.  it seems pretty solid so far.  your guy pat rothfuss recommended him to me.

Well, you can tell Pat to go ahead and finish that third book.

i finished the first four books of the demon cycle series.  they're pretty good.  #recommendedtopete
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Pete on May 27, 2015, 05:33:04 PM




I'm just finishing up another trilogy, the Broken Empire, by some bro named Mark Lawrence.

so the last one is not good.  it's like he lost interest.  very strange for someone's talent to just completely abandon them like that only three books into a career.

You are a fast reader.  I am only half through the "Cold Commands."  This "gray places" dream like stuff is tiring.

i got a little wrapped up in it because it's like a mystery that i wanted answered.  like wtf is going on and what happened in the past that made it this way?  i love backstory and revelations. 

i'm two books into this demon cycle series by peter v. brett.  it seems pretty solid so far.  your guy pat rothfuss recommended him to me.

Well, you can tell Pat to go ahead and finish that third book.

i finished the first four books of the demon cycle series.  they're pretty good.  #recommendedtopete

Almost done with the Cold Commands, after the third one, those will be my next stop.  You are maybe the fastest reader ever.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Mr Bread on May 28, 2015, 10:09:39 AM
I'm going to read Lev Grossman's The Magicians next.  A trilogy.  Will report back. 
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Pete on June 01, 2015, 08:09:10 PM

I'm going to read Lev Grossman's The Magicians next.  A trilogy.  Will report back.

Finished The Cold Commands, now on to the third book.  Should I read that Demon series next or the Magicians?

Regarding the Morgan series, I am giving them the Pete fantasy novel stamp approval thus far...hopefully it ends well in book three.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Mr Bread on June 01, 2015, 08:23:04 PM
Read the demon cycle books first I'd say. 
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on June 02, 2015, 12:22:18 PM
now reading "The Girl on the Train"
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: michigancat on June 02, 2015, 12:44:20 PM
do you dorks read anything but fantasy books?
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on June 02, 2015, 12:46:26 PM
do you dorks read anything but fantasy books?

yes. about one in every three books i read is fiction <--- word book people call "fantasy"
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on June 02, 2015, 12:50:00 PM
I only read fiction, but some of it is historical fiction - I don't consider that fantasy.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: CNS on June 02, 2015, 01:16:24 PM
I'm going to read Lev Grossman's The Magicians next.  A trilogy.  Will report back.
Don't.  Finished the trilogy a while back.  The first book is intriguing.   Sucks super hard from then on.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: Kat Kid on June 02, 2015, 01:53:32 PM
do you dorks read anything but fantasy books?

You should read rick perlstein's book on reagan.
Title: Re: book recommendations
Post by: michigancat on June 02, 2015, 01:57:15 PM
do you dorks read anything but fantasy books?

You should read rick perlstein's book on reagan.