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Title: Your boy Marcus
Post by: Clevey 2 Times on March 17, 2015, 11:17:44 AM
Hearing rumors that he signed with something that rhymes with "smagent".
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: Kat Kid on March 17, 2015, 11:20:39 AM
LOL

also "your boy" is a great lead in for a totally supportive and non-racist #take on one of our Wildcat student-athletes.
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: kslim on March 17, 2015, 11:24:39 AM
makes sense, agents are everywhere in south padre texas. was only a matter of time
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: pissclams on March 17, 2015, 11:27:45 AM
after a year where he's done nothing but secure himself the nba dream that he's so long wanted, it all makes sense
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: Clevey 2 Times on March 17, 2015, 11:36:07 AM
makes sense, agents are everywhere in south padre texas. was only a matter of time

Ha.

Since this all remains only a thought experiment...my thoughts are happier thinking about Marcus gone and letting the Claws era commence NOW!
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: Clevey 2 Times on March 17, 2015, 11:38:11 AM
after a year where he's done nothing but secure himself the nba dream that he's so long wanted, it all makes sense

Queue the "Lebron Skills Camp got in his head" talking point.
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: kslim on March 17, 2015, 11:49:49 AM
makes sense, agents are everywhere in south padre texas. was only a matter of time

Ha.

Since this all remains only a thought experiment...my thoughts are happier thinking about Marcus gone and letting the Claws era commence NOW!
if you are hearing rumors from your own head i think its time to take a break
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: ChiComCat on March 17, 2015, 12:00:09 PM
If he doesn't want to go through the hassle of transferring, why not?  Good luck in Europe tho
Title: Your boy Marcus
Post by: Pete on March 17, 2015, 12:15:51 PM
I hear Israel is fun :dunno:
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: wetwillie on March 17, 2015, 12:59:17 PM
Go get paid young man
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on March 17, 2015, 01:37:33 PM
European don't want to sign and 19-20 year old americans. He would most likely end up in D-League.
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: Dugout DickStone on March 17, 2015, 02:27:53 PM
Congrats MArcus
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: Pete on March 17, 2015, 02:44:48 PM
Tel Aviv ladies lookout!
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: Spracne on March 17, 2015, 02:47:03 PM
Is this team Sans Marcus like moving from Austin to San Marcus? @42
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: Cartierfor3 on March 17, 2015, 02:48:46 PM
I refer to people as your boy all the time. "Hey man, I saw your boy Timmy down at the waterway in line for a car wash on Tuesday. His car was messy!" Should I not use that phrase????
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: 0.42 on March 17, 2015, 02:50:24 PM
Is this team Sans Marcus like moving from Austin to San Marcus? @42

No this team was already about a Waco and is moving steadily into Huntsville territory

but very nice pun
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: 'taterblast on March 17, 2015, 02:52:37 PM
https://twitter.com/Swaggy2_/status/577920308172050432
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: CNS on March 17, 2015, 02:56:49 PM
This is going to be a great week
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: 0.42 on March 17, 2015, 03:01:32 PM
https://twitter.com/Swaggy2_/status/577920308172050432

lit

big 12 shades

iguana

whataburger cup

some guy named randolph

it's simultaneously a gpc meltdown bingo and the greatest rough ridin' thing in the world, all in one tweet
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: CNS on March 17, 2015, 03:12:54 PM
even better.  The lizard is both Randolf and fake!
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: wetwillie on March 17, 2015, 03:19:33 PM
Any CHOO CHOO posts with deal with it glasses must now be big 12 shades instead of aviators.
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: michigancat on March 17, 2015, 03:21:19 PM
and there goes all our three point shooting
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: Spracne on March 17, 2015, 03:21:48 PM
Any CHOO CHOO posts with deal with it glasses must now be big 12 shades instead of aviators.

5-star post, here.  :thumbs:
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: Dub on March 17, 2015, 03:26:22 PM
#Randolph is making his rounds around KState Athletics. 
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: TownieCat on March 17, 2015, 03:37:45 PM
I wonder if Marcus' agent paid for this last minute spring break adventure...
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: Trim on March 17, 2015, 04:37:06 PM
:emawkid:
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: pvegs on March 17, 2015, 05:28:52 PM
Taking it down only to see Hubener and Barnett post is great. 
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: nicname on March 17, 2015, 06:44:42 PM
You can be damn sure that if I just played the worst season of basketball of my life (I graded his season an F-, btw), I would have my butt in the gym and not on the road for some Spring Break trip! Can't wait to get Claws in here and infuse some good ol' fashioned Kansas work ethic to this basketball team!

Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: wetwillie on March 17, 2015, 06:46:20 PM
You can be damn sure that if I just played the worst season of basketball of my life (I graded his season an F-, btw), I would have my butt in the gym and not on the road for some Spring Break trip! Can't wait to get Claws in here and infuse some good ol' fashioned Kansas work ethic to this basketball team!



#westoforleans
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: kso_FAN on March 17, 2015, 07:36:30 PM
I think it would be fun to watch Foster and Wade play together.
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: cas4ksu on March 17, 2015, 07:39:58 PM
EMAW Hero Garth Gardiner on Marcus going to PCB.

https://twitter.com/GarthGardiner/status/577607988443140096
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: Trim on March 17, 2015, 07:56:52 PM
I remember being bothered a bit by how early the '98-ish hoopcats were planning their spring break, but it makes me excited now to look for one particular GPC take on South Padre Marcus.
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: MakeItRain on March 17, 2015, 09:38:40 PM
I remember being bothered a bit by how early the '98-ish hoopcats were planning their spring break, but it makes me excited now to look for one particular GPC take on South Padre Marcus.

Careful before you get a phone call
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: Trim on March 17, 2015, 09:57:37 PM
I remember being bothered a bit by how early the '98-ish hoopcats were planning their spring break, but it makes me excited now to look for one particular GPC take on South Padre Marcus.

Careful before you get a phone call

:lol:
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: ksupamplemousse on March 17, 2015, 09:58:32 PM
I'm 73% sure that Clevey No Mo is my dad.
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: Katpappy on March 17, 2015, 10:34:22 PM
I'm 73% sure that Clevey No Mo is my dad.
Just in case you are wondering, Katdaddy is taken.
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: ksupamplemousse on March 17, 2015, 11:39:49 PM
I'm 73% sure that Clevey No Mo is my dad.
Just in case you are wondering, Katdaddy is taken.
Is he your dad too?
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: The Big Train on March 18, 2015, 07:08:34 AM
Any CHOO CHOO posts with deal with it glasses must now be big 12 shades instead of aviators.

5-star post, here.  :thumbs:

 :peek:
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: MixBerryCrunch on March 18, 2015, 08:14:00 AM
I'm not getting the sudden Claws hate on the board. Did he say something stupid or is it about GPC?
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 18, 2015, 08:51:38 AM
I'm not getting the sudden Claws hate on the board. Did he say something stupid or is it about GPC?
He's a white kid from Kansas. Do the math. He never stood a chance.
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: ksupamplemousse on March 18, 2015, 09:23:01 AM
People on this board don't hate Claws. They hate the racists in our fanbase. There is seriously a thread on GPC right now about whether he'll be as good as Christian Laetner (because white, duh), and whether he'll be able to teach our team (ya know, black people) "the Kansas work ethic" (in other words, how to work like a white person).
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: Panjandrum on March 18, 2015, 09:35:33 AM
People on this board don't hate Claws. They hate the racists in our fanbase. There is seriously a thread on GPC right now about whether he'll be as good as Christian Laetner (because white, duh), and whether he'll be able to teach our team (ya know, black people) "the Kansas work ethic" (in other words, how to work like a white person).

I shouldn't be surprised that showed up on GPC, but they never cease to amaze.

Please tell me that they referenced Arthur Brown as a positive example.  Please.  Give me a shred of hope.
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: ksupamplemousse on March 18, 2015, 09:39:39 AM
People on this board don't hate Claws. They hate the racists in our fanbase. There is seriously a thread on GPC right now about whether he'll be as good as Christian Laetner (because white, duh), and whether he'll be able to teach our team (ya know, black people) "the Kansas work ethic" (in other words, how to work like a white person).

I shouldn't be surprised that showed up on GPC, but they never cease to amaze.

Please tell me that they referenced Arthur Brown as a positive example.  Please.  Give me a shred of hope.

Klein, Jordy, and Mark Simoneau.
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: steve dave on March 18, 2015, 09:44:14 AM
I'm not getting the sudden Claws hate on the board. Did he say something stupid or is it about GPC?

I really like Wade fwiw
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: renocat on March 18, 2015, 12:40:09 PM
Dean and Barry, the train back to the promised.  Right now I am living the western Ks motto: to the stars through hemroids.  IMO next year a good seed for purple people pounders.
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: Panjandrum on March 18, 2015, 12:46:26 PM
People on this board don't hate Claws. They hate the racists in our fanbase. There is seriously a thread on GPC right now about whether he'll be as good as Christian Laetner (because white, duh), and whether he'll be able to teach our team (ya know, black people) "the Kansas work ethic" (in other words, how to work like a white person).

I shouldn't be surprised that showed up on GPC, but they never cease to amaze.

Please tell me that they referenced Arthur Brown as a positive example.  Please.  Give me a shred of hope.

Klein, Jordy, and Mark Simoneau.

Huh?  Klein was from Colorado.  How does that factor into this at all?
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: raquetcat on March 18, 2015, 01:00:21 PM
People on this board don't hate Claws. They hate the racists in our fanbase. There is seriously a thread on GPC right now about whether he'll be as good as Christian Laetner (because white, duh), and whether he'll be able to teach our team (ya know, black people) "the Kansas work ethic" (in other words, how to work like a white person).

I shouldn't be surprised that showed up on GPC, but they never cease to amaze.

Please tell me that they referenced Arthur Brown as a positive example.  Please.  Give me a shred of hope.

Klein, Jordy, and Mark Simoneau.

Huh?  Klein was from Colorado.  How does that factor into this at all?
West of club Orleans tho
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: michigancat on March 18, 2015, 01:01:45 PM
No one hates Claws
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: catastrophe on March 18, 2015, 01:14:01 PM
People on this board don't hate Claws. They hate the racists in our fanbase. There is seriously a thread on GPC right now about whether he'll be as good as Christian Laetner (because white, duh), and whether he'll be able to teach our team (ya know, black people) "the Kansas work ethic" (in other words, how to work like a white person).

You got it all wrong. That train of thought isn't racist against black people, it is racist against white people. They're assuming the only way a white guy could make a D1 team like K-State is if he has a really good work ethic.
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 18, 2015, 01:18:28 PM
lil wacky asked mom one time why racism existed. I said: "Mom, I don't get it. Puppies come in all different shapes and sizes and everyone loves puppies! What's the difference? It's so stupid!".  :gocho:
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: wetwillie on March 18, 2015, 01:28:17 PM
does DW have a post game?  I guess I envisioned him as a slightly taller Shane southwell.
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: catastrophe on March 18, 2015, 01:29:10 PM
lil wacky asked mom one time why racism existed. I said: "Mom, I don't get it. Puppies come in all different shapes and sizes and everyone loves puppies! What's the difference? It's so stupid!".  :gocho:

I love puppies. But I don't trust them.
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: nicname on March 18, 2015, 02:06:01 PM
does DW have a post game?  I guess I envisioned him as a slightly taller Shane southwell.

Watched about a half of this game. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=044KJqO7v84

Good shooter. Plays on the perimeter a lot for a guys that's at least 6" taller than anyone else on the court. Played the middle of a 2-3 zone at the start of the game. Rebounding skills? Seems like he could be a good entry passer. Was guarding the other team's guard/ wing when in man to man.

I'm no scout.
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: michigancat on March 18, 2015, 02:10:39 PM
does DW have a post game?  I guess I envisioned him as a slightly taller Shane southwell.

Watched about a half of this game. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=044KJqO7v84

Good shooter. Plays on the perimeter a lot for a guys that's at least 6" taller than anyone else on the court. Played the middle of a 2-3 zone at the start of the game. Rebounding skills? Seems like he could be a good entry passer. Was guarding the other team's guard/ wing when in man to man.

I'm no scout.

Did they say he's shooting over 50% beyond the arc? :surprised:
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: TownieCat on March 18, 2015, 02:13:34 PM
does DW have a post game?  I guess I envisioned him as a slightly taller Shane southwell.

In the semis on Friday he showed the ability to finish with both hands around the basket. In one sequence he made back to back baskets using his left hand.

Again, very hard to assess since he was so much taller than everyone. It was really easy for him to catch the ball in the post and score over someone without a double team. His team was also good enough that if he was being doubled they would pass the ball to the open guy and score without going through DW.

In retrospect I wish his team sucked so they had to use him more.
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: nicname on March 18, 2015, 02:27:55 PM
does DW have a post game?  I guess I envisioned him as a slightly taller Shane southwell.

Watched about a half of this game. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=044KJqO7v84

Good shooter. Plays on the perimeter a lot for a guys that's at least 6" taller than anyone else on the court. Played the middle of a 2-3 zone at the start of the game. Rebounding skills? Seems like he could be a good entry passer. Was guarding the other team's guard/ wing when in man to man.

I'm no scout.

Did they say he's shooting over 50% beyond the arc? :surprised:

Wasn't listening. I was watching a western on Netflix at the time. "Gunfight in Durango" great flick.
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: michigancat on March 18, 2015, 02:36:39 PM
does DW have a post game?  I guess I envisioned him as a slightly taller Shane southwell.

Watched about a half of this game. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=044KJqO7v84

Good shooter. Plays on the perimeter a lot for a guys that's at least 6" taller than anyone else on the court. Played the middle of a 2-3 zone at the start of the game. Rebounding skills? Seems like he could be a good entry passer. Was guarding the other team's guard/ wing when in man to man.

I'm no scout.

Did they say he's shooting over 50% beyond the arc? :surprised:

Wasn't listening. I was watching a western on Netflix at the time. "Gunfight in Durango" great flick.
I don't know, sounds like you're a great scout.
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: nicname on March 18, 2015, 02:41:48 PM
does DW have a post game?  I guess I envisioned him as a slightly taller Shane southwell.

Watched about a half of this game. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=044KJqO7v84

Good shooter. Plays on the perimeter a lot for a guys that's at least 6" taller than anyone else on the court. Played the middle of a 2-3 zone at the start of the game. Rebounding skills? Seems like he could be a good entry passer. Was guarding the other team's guard/ wing when in man to man.

I'm no scout.

Did they say he's shooting over 50% beyond the arc? :surprised:

Wasn't listening. I was watching a western on Netflix at the time. "Gunfight in Durango" great flick.
I don't know, sounds like you're a great scout.

I love westerns. There are few things more relaxing. I could probably track an enemy (native or white man) undetected for days without being noticed. I could probably do it while watching Claws highlights on youtube.
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: wetwillie on March 18, 2015, 03:13:31 PM
Is the western a metaphor for his west kansas work ethic ?
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep on March 18, 2015, 03:50:10 PM
it looks a lot like me playing a bunch of 7th graders.
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: kso_FAN on March 18, 2015, 03:51:41 PM
St John is not in Western Kansas.

Shorter Shawn Rhodes?
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: star seed 7 on March 18, 2015, 03:53:16 PM
St John is not in Western Kansas.

Shorter Shawn Rhodes?

Where is it?
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: mocat on March 18, 2015, 03:56:07 PM
St John is not in Western Kansas.

Shorter Shawn Rhodes?

oh my god it's farther west than Pratt.

Pratt.
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: kso_FAN on March 18, 2015, 03:56:28 PM
I'd consider it just central Kansas.

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Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: TownieCat on March 18, 2015, 03:57:40 PM


St John is not in Western Kansas.

Shorter Shawn Rhodes?

Where is it?

About 20 mi. south of Great Bend. It's very much in Western KS.
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: mocat on March 18, 2015, 03:59:14 PM
I'd consider it just central Kansas.

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look, Topeka is central kansas and even that is kind of a stretch
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: mocat on March 18, 2015, 03:59:46 PM
i'm doing topeka a favor by calling it central kansas.
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: star seed 7 on March 18, 2015, 04:00:12 PM
I think _FAN needs a refresher on where club Orleans is
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: Yard Dog on March 18, 2015, 04:00:24 PM
I'd consider it just central Kansas.

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If you divide the state in to two equal pieces St. Johns would fall in the western of the two. But, the debate really comes down to the mentality and lifestyle that is labeled as "western Kansas". No matter where St Johns is on the map, it is my humble opinion that it has the mentality and lifestyle expected from a western Kansas town. 
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: Yard Dog on March 18, 2015, 04:01:31 PM
I think _FAN needs a refresher on where club Orleans is

So it is your opinion that Wichita is Western Kansas?
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: SEK_EMAW on March 18, 2015, 04:03:05 PM
As a #EastofClubOrleans'r my general rule of thumb is:  if you would consider a pheasant hunting trip there, it's western Kansas.
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: TownieCat on March 18, 2015, 04:05:35 PM
I think _FAN needs a refresher on where club Orleans is

So it is your opinion that Wichita is Western Kansas?
I've always thought of Wichita as its own little bubble that can't be labeled.
Title: Your boy Marcus
Post by: kso_FAN on March 18, 2015, 04:21:31 PM
I grew up in north central Kansas (almost straight north of St John). I think most people from the central part of the state divide the state into thirds. Western Kansas starts at a line that runs through Hays. JMHO.

Honestly, the mentality of a person from a rural central Kansas town can be much different from someone from a rural western Kansas town. Especially closer to Wichita.
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: michigancat on March 18, 2015, 04:22:56 PM
I grew up in north central Kansas (almost straight north of St John). I think most people from the central part of the state divide the state into thirds. Western Kansas starts at a line that runs through Hays. JMHO.

:lol:

no way it's way east of that. we had this discussion in a bball chat, I believe. @tobias might remember.
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: ksupamplemousse on March 18, 2015, 04:24:54 PM
Is this debate really happening again, who cares  :dunno:
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on March 18, 2015, 04:25:53 PM
eastern is east of topeka. central is between topeka and salina/wichita. everything west of salina/wichita is western.
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: michigancat on March 18, 2015, 04:26:05 PM
Is this debate really happening again, who cares  :dunno:

western kansans who ABSOLUTELY HATE being labeled western kansans
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: kso_FAN on March 18, 2015, 04:27:38 PM

Is this debate really happening again, who cares  :dunno:

western kansans who ABSOLUTELY HATE being labeled western kansans

:D
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: Spracne on March 18, 2015, 04:33:19 PM
Hutch is not Western Kansas  :th_twocents:.  I didn't know a single person who lived on a farm.
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: mocat on March 18, 2015, 04:40:52 PM
Hutch is not Western Kansas  :th_twocents:.  I didn't know a single person who lived on a farm.

another test is if you say it out loud.

"Hutch"

wow, congrats Hutch, you passed the Am I In Western Kansas test with flying colors.
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: Spracne on March 18, 2015, 04:43:13 PM
hutch
h?CH/Submit
noun
1.
a box or cage, typically with a wire mesh front, for keeping rabbits, ferrets, or other small domesticated animals.

Does that sound Western Kansas'y at all to you, punk?
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: CNS on March 18, 2015, 04:43:39 PM
Hayes is eastern CO.
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: Cartierfor3 on March 18, 2015, 04:44:13 PM
you guys ever think about how big Kansas is? I mean, its huge.
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: mocat on March 18, 2015, 04:46:49 PM
you don't even have to look up places on the map to see if they are in western kansas or regular kansas:

"Pratt"

"Hays"

"Wichita"

"Abilene"

"Clay Center"

"Eudora"

"Chanute"

"Basehor"
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: Cartierfor3 on March 18, 2015, 04:47:21 PM
Kansas has 82,277 square miles. It would be the 86th largest country by size if it were a country. Bigger than Syria, Nepal, Greece, North Korea, Iceland, Ireland, and many others. Most of Kansas is filled with Cow Farms I think.
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: Spracne on March 18, 2015, 04:48:06 PM
This discussion is happening concurrently in three separate threads, none of which are about this discussion.
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: Cartierfor3 on March 18, 2015, 04:48:29 PM
I have no idea where Chanute is. It could be in Canada for all I know.
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: mocat on March 18, 2015, 04:49:56 PM
here are some non-western kansas names (doesn't mean they're not in western kansas; just means you have to look it up):

manhattan - the largest city in the united states

lawrence - generic last name, echoes of massachusetts, could be anywhere

leawood - wood says class

overland park - park is an urban sounding thing

"Garden City" - i mean that could be anywhere

Wellington - congrats hobbits, you sound eastern
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: mocat on March 18, 2015, 04:50:44 PM
I have no idea where Chanute is. It could be in Canada for all I know.

that's my point. you don't have to look it up. you know it's in western kansas just by saying it out loud. so wherever it is, that's western kansas.
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: mocat on March 18, 2015, 04:51:48 PM
ohhh Kinsley. that's a good name. surprisingly way super western kansas
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: Cartierfor3 on March 18, 2015, 04:54:32 PM
I have no idea where Chanute is. It could be in Canada for all I know.

that's my point. you don't have to look it up. you know it's in western kansas just by saying it out loud. so wherever it is, that's western kansas.

oh I get it. its like where all the community college football teams play. western kansas. Its where anyone who has seen a wild prarie dog on their land is from. western kansas. its the place where Metallica can't be played until 9 PM. western Kansas.
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: Cartierfor3 on March 18, 2015, 04:55:10 PM
like that kid who wore his cowboy hat the first day of class freshman year. where is he from? Western Kansas.
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: CHONGS on March 18, 2015, 04:55:29 PM
Is this debate really happening again, who cares  :dunno:

western kansans who ABSOLUTELY HATE being labeled western kansans
They should learn to embrace it.  Not many people come from Western Kansas. 

Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: puniraptor on March 18, 2015, 05:17:34 PM
i have some idea of where chanute is based on the npr simulcast station roll call
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: CHONGS on March 18, 2015, 05:35:40 PM
Kansas Cartogram (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cartogram) (based on county population):

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F1DFNE6K.png&hash=fec476e1416b760c91bd03962c780fae4838ea98)
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: BackPayne on March 18, 2015, 05:36:48 PM
Good God, guys.  This discussion is embarrassing.
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: michigancat on March 18, 2015, 05:37:20 PM
Good God, guys.  This discussion is embarrassing.

get lost, loser
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: CHONGS on March 18, 2015, 05:53:48 PM
It looks like Manhattan is the dividing line.
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: slobber on March 18, 2015, 05:54:36 PM
mocat geography is way more accurate than mocat math.


Gonna win 'em all!
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: Lucas Scoopsalot on March 18, 2015, 05:56:13 PM
I grew up in Western Kansas
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: puniraptor on March 18, 2015, 05:56:38 PM
SE KS suprises with their showing in this 'gram
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: slobber on March 18, 2015, 05:59:53 PM

I grew up in Western Kansas
pretty sure we all did.


Gonna win 'em all!
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: CNS on March 18, 2015, 06:10:05 PM
Wellington sounds super west.  I mean, there is a beef dish with wellington right in the name.  Beef! 
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: AndrewVonLintel on March 18, 2015, 07:06:33 PM
Geographically speaking,  Western Kansas is probably best defined by the High Plains which pretty much starts at Great Bend.   Great Bend is at 1850 ft. Rainfall also becomes much more scarce out west.  Rainfall at Great bend is about 26 inches a year.  Dodge City about 22, Goodland about 20.

Culturally,  The entire state of Kansas is very similar with the main exception of Lawrence which is very backward and ignorant of anything outside of extreme leftist ideology and college basketball.
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: Spracne on March 18, 2015, 07:10:56 PM
I love how people think Lawrence is some leftist Zion.  It's a town in Kansas that just happens to have a University.  It only appears liberal by contrast to the cultural wasteland that surrounds it.  It's still pretty damn conservative.
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: Clevey 2 Times on March 18, 2015, 07:25:46 PM
I love the fact that this turned into a where is western KS debate.

The other day in class my students, all at least 18 years old or more, babbled on about how where I'm from (born in MHK, family from Marshall County) must be a place where everyone owns multiple guns. They were serious. I told them that if we don't own guns we at least date our cousins.

From where I sit, the state is about 85% culturally western KS.
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: Trim on March 18, 2015, 07:27:31 PM
I grew up in north central Kansas (almost straight north of St John). I think most people from the central part of the state divide the state into thirds. Western Kansas starts at a line that runs through Hays. JMHO.

:lol:

no way it's way east of that. we had this discussion in a bball chat, I believe. @tobias might remember.

We did, and solved it I think.  Basketball chat is very productive.
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: cas4ksu on March 18, 2015, 08:09:09 PM
ALWAYS pleased to see some spirited WKS chatter.
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: MakeItRain on March 18, 2015, 09:19:55 PM
I grew up in north central Kansas (almost straight north of St John). I think most people from the central part of the state divide the state into thirds. Western Kansas starts at a line that runs through Hays. JMHO.

:lol:

no way it's way east of that. we had this discussion in a bball chat, I believe. @tobias might remember.

We did, and solved it I think.  Basketball chat is very productive.

Yep and I won the debate, the western/central Kansas border is a straight line south to north from Barber County to Smith County. Dumbass Pawnee County messes the straight line up but there is no doubt Pawnee County is Western KS

http://www.filmkansas.com/s3.amazonaws.com/production.ksfilm.webapeel.com/ksfilm/assets/2011/2/17/1515/kshighwayscolorborderresize.png
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: MakeItRain on March 18, 2015, 09:23:54 PM
I also want to know who it was that night in chat that insisted that Great Bend is WKS because it's "more Hays than Hutch." LOL I didn't mock that dumbass enough.
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: michigancat on March 18, 2015, 09:28:27 PM
I also want to know who it was that night in chat that insisted that Great Bend is WKS because it's "more Hays than Hutch." LOL I didn't mock that dumbass enough.
Yes, I remember that.

I was firmly in your camp, BTW
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: Lucas Scoopsalot on March 18, 2015, 09:35:33 PM
What would you say is the cutoff of East vs. Central? like Salina or Manhattan?
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: michigancat on March 18, 2015, 09:36:39 PM
What would you say is the cutoff of East vs. Central? like Salina or Manhattan?
There is no cutoff in the north, the Wichita area is south central.
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: MakeItRain on March 18, 2015, 09:38:44 PM
What would you say is the cutoff of East vs. Central? like Salina or Manhattan?

Culturally irrelevant
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on March 18, 2015, 09:40:06 PM
Western kansas is that part of kansas behind you as you watch the sunrise you illiterate idiots
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: nicname on March 18, 2015, 09:48:40 PM
MIR's line is good and similar what I always thought. His opinion holds more weight than that of Easterners. I always thought of Hays as the Gateway to Western Kansas, at least along I-70.

_FAN's thirds and halves thing is pretty good too. If halves I-135 is a good divider, if thirds MIR's and/or Hays is good.
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: MakeItRain on March 18, 2015, 09:59:01 PM
MIR's line is good and similar what I always thought. His opinion holds more weight than that of Easterners. I always thought of Hays as the Gateway to Western Kansas, at least along I-70.

_FAN's thirds and halves thing is pretty good too. If halves I-135 is a good divider, if thirds MIR's and/or Hays is good.

Hays, aka Highway 183 is not and cannot be the line. Wars have been fought over things less important than Larned and Greensburg. This is absolutely a non starter
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: mocat on March 18, 2015, 09:59:08 PM
Where do you guys draw the upstate new York line? Sleepy Hollow? Oh wait no its probably plattsburgh. Dumbasses
Title: Your boy Marcus
Post by: kso_FAN on March 18, 2015, 10:00:54 PM
I grew up in north central Kansas (almost straight north of St John). I think most people from the central part of the state divide the state into thirds. Western Kansas starts at a line that runs through Hays. JMHO.

:lol:

no way it's way east of that. we had this discussion in a bball chat, I believe. @tobias might remember.

We did, and solved it I think.  Basketball chat is very productive.

Yep and I won the debate, the western/central Kansas border is a straight line south to north from Barber County to Smith County. Dumbass Pawnee County messes the straight line up but there is no doubt Pawnee County is Western KS

http://www.filmkansas.com/s3.amazonaws.com/production.ksfilm.webapeel.com/ksfilm/assets/2011/2/17/1515/kshighwayscolorborderresize.png

This is 100% correct. Hays was my rough divider, but MIR nailed it.
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: Trim on March 18, 2015, 10:17:56 PM
I grew up in north central Kansas (almost straight north of St John). I think most people from the central part of the state divide the state into thirds. Western Kansas starts at a line that runs through Hays. JMHO.

:lol:

no way it's way east of that. we had this discussion in a bball chat, I believe. @tobias might remember.

We did, and solved it I think.  Basketball chat is very productive.

Yep and I won the debate, the western/central Kansas border is a straight line south to north from Barber County to Smith County. Dumbass Pawnee County messes the straight line up but there is no doubt Pawnee County is Western KS

http://www.filmkansas.com/s3.amazonaws.com/production.ksfilm.webapeel.com/ksfilm/assets/2011/2/17/1515/kshighwayscolorborderresize.png

You mean the western borders of those counties is the line, right?

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fgeology.com%2Fcounty-map%2Fkansas-county-map.gif&hash=7b696ed87e8443c5ddcab73cf448449b8bc03f46)
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: sys on March 18, 2015, 10:20:49 PM
lol @ this thread reemerging.


also lol @ either me or wade.  i just realized that st john is the town he's from.  i thought it was some prep school or something.  that's basically the same town my father is from.  he's prolly my cousin or some crap.
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: Trim on March 18, 2015, 10:22:16 PM
lol @ this thread reemerging.


also lol @ either me or wade.  i just realized that st john is the town he's from.  i thought it was some prep school or something.  that's basically the same town my father is from.  he's prolly my cousin or some crap.

:lol:
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: nicname on March 18, 2015, 10:22:50 PM
MIR's line is good and similar what I always thought. His opinion holds more weight than that of Easterners. I always thought of Hays as the Gateway to Western Kansas, at least along I-70.

_FAN's thirds and halves thing is pretty good too. If halves I-135 is a good divider, if thirds MIR's and/or Hays is good.

Hays, aka Highway 183 is not and cannot be the line. Wars have been fought over things less important than Larned and Greensburg. This is absolutely a non starter

It was just the unofficial marker of where I felt like I was in Western Kansas traveling that way as a kid. Russell felt that way as well, but Hays is bigger.

Edit: Like I said earlier, you're a better authority on this issue. The unbiased take of a true Western Kansas is worth its weight in Buffalo Nickels (when they were worth money) in this convo.
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: kstatefan11 on March 18, 2015, 10:53:53 PM
I think the line bisecting Pawnee (the Line of DeMIRcation) is probably most accurate. I always used 281 as a divider, but _Fan is right in that there is a definite cultural shift which starts a bit farther to the west. I would still gerrymander that sucker to include Russell. Meridy's is pretty WKS.
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: Spracne on March 18, 2015, 10:58:09 PM
There are two parallel discussions happening, here.  The people who are still from Kansas but want to feel superior to the people who are also from Kansas are probably the losers either way, though.  Fortunately, I am not from Western Kansas. Lol, could you imagine?
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on March 18, 2015, 11:04:18 PM
Central KS is worse than Western KS. It includes Salina and Wichita. It's interesting to me that so many from Western KS want to be grouped with Salina.
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: renocat on March 18, 2015, 11:23:38 PM
Glad Marcus admits he stank this past year.  I wish he give up party dude mindset.  He best not fall asleep on the beach at Padre; he might get buried by a cat.
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: bones129 on March 19, 2015, 12:08:32 AM
Glad Marcus admits he stank this past year.  I wish he give up party dude mindset.  He best not fall asleep on the beach at Padre; he might get buried by a cat.

Meaningless post. He's a college student entitled to go on spring break when thre are no mandatory or voluntary practices.
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: Stevesie60 on March 19, 2015, 02:02:55 AM
I liked when _FAN said him and the other ten people in his western KS town decided on where the dividing lines in KS were, and they just so happened to not include themselves in western KS. Holy lol.
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: MakeItRain on March 19, 2015, 07:33:45 AM
I grew up in north central Kansas (almost straight north of St John). I think most people from the central part of the state divide the state into thirds. Western Kansas starts at a line that runs through Hays. JMHO.

:lol:

no way it's way east of that. we had this discussion in a bball chat, I believe. @tobias might remember.

We did, and solved it I think.  Basketball chat is very productive.

Yep and I won the debate, the western/central Kansas border is a straight line south to north from Barber County to Smith County. Dumbass Pawnee County messes the straight line up but there is no doubt Pawnee County is Western KS

http://www.filmkansas.com/s3.amazonaws.com/production.ksfilm.webapeel.com/ksfilm/assets/2011/2/17/1515/kshighwayscolorborderresize.png

You mean the western borders of those counties is the line, right?

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fgeology.com%2Fcounty-map%2Fkansas-county-map.gif&hash=7b696ed87e8443c5ddcab73cf448449b8bc03f46)

I intentionally left that bit of info out because if I need to differentiate that for you it's a sign this conversation isn't one you should be involved in.
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: MakeItRain on March 19, 2015, 07:44:04 AM
Central KS is worse than Western KS. It includes Salina and Wichita. It's interesting to me that so many from Western KS want to be grouped with Salina.

There isn't a true western Kansan itt or in life who groups Salina into WKS, that's a NEKS trick, we know better.
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: slobber on March 19, 2015, 07:51:10 AM
Abilene. The only thing more western kansasy is Dodge City. Surprised this has not been pointed out yet.


Gonna win 'em all!
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: Woogy on March 19, 2015, 08:48:31 AM
Hutch is really the enigma.  You can really only easily go places west from Hutch.  The Interstate ignored them for a reason.  They literally only got a four lane highway into town like 2 years ago.  They just don't fit the I-135/US 81 corridor and stick out like a sore thumb.

Yet its about the biggest KU hive west of Lawrence.  Thinking its a generational and collective attempt at transference to cover up their self loathing.

Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: kstatefan11 on March 19, 2015, 08:59:18 AM
Abilene. The only thing more western kansasy is Dodge City. Surprised this has not been pointed out yet.


Gonna win 'em all!

Cowtowny ?Western Kansasy. Even their most notable restaurant is imported from the west, but even that's not really WKS. They're trying too hard. And do the words "presidential" and "library" belong in any WKS discussion?
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on March 19, 2015, 09:01:00 AM
Abilene. The only thing more western kansasy is Dodge City. Surprised this has not been pointed out yet.


Gonna win 'em all!

Cowtowny ?Western Kansasy. Even their most notable restaurant is imported from the west, but even that's not really WKS. They're trying too hard. And do the words "presidential" and "library" belong in any WKS discussion?

Yeah, Abilene is like a western Kansas town that grew legs and walked east of Salina.
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: Spracne on March 19, 2015, 09:06:32 AM
Hutch is really the enigma.  You can really only easily go places west from Hutch.  The Interstate ignored them for a reason.  They literally only got a four lane highway into town like 2 years ago.  They just don't fit the I-135/US 81 corridor and stick out like a sore thumb.

Yet its about the biggest KU hive west of Lawrence.  Thinking its a generational and collective attempt at transference to cover up their self loathing.

I'm no Hutch apologist, but that's literally not true. When I think of Western Kansas, I think of economies largely based on agriculture, and that's just not the case with Hutch.  I spent much of my childhood there, and I didn't know a single farmer and in fact never stepped foot on a farm (Did go to an emu farm for a field trip, once).  Whatever Wichita is, that's basically what Hutch is.  Wichita is our NYC, and we are northern New Jersey.
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: michigancat on March 19, 2015, 09:15:35 AM


I spent much of my childhood there, and I didn't know a single farmer and in fact never stepped foot on a farm

He's used this as a brag TWICE now!

:D
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: Spracne on March 19, 2015, 09:16:36 AM


I spent much of my childhood there, and I didn't know a single farmer and in fact never stepped foot on a farm

He's used this as a brag TWICE now!

:D

It's an anecdote in support of my position.  Not bragging.
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: Woogy on March 19, 2015, 09:27:32 AM
Hutch is really the enigma.  You can really only easily go places west from Hutch.  The Interstate ignored them for a reason.  They literally only got a four lane highway into town like 2 years ago.  They just don't fit the I-135/US 81 corridor and stick out like a sore thumb.

Yet its about the biggest KU hive west of Lawrence.  Thinking its a generational and collective attempt at transference to cover up their self loathing.

I'm no Hutch apologist, but that's literally not true. When I think of Western Kansas, I think of economies largely based on agriculture, and that's just not the case with Hutch.  I spent much of my childhood there, and I didn't know a single farmer and in fact never stepped foot on a farm (Did go to an emu farm for a field trip, once).  Whatever Wichita is, that's basically what Hutch is.  Wichita is our NYC, and we are northern New Jersey.

They were, back when interstate banking was prohibited, the financial center for farming.  Once that prohibition went away - they lost that identity. There's not much there that was thriving 40 years ago - salt production and ?

There just isn't anything that screams "This is Hutchinson"....

And K-96/US50/K61 to the west didn't build to Hutch - they stayed at arm's length several miles south so people could bypass Hutch.  It wasn't until K-61 north to - I-135 - and McPherson that a modern highway actually came in to Hutch.
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: michigancat on March 19, 2015, 09:28:32 AM


I spent much of my childhood there, and I didn't know a single farmer and in fact never stepped foot on a farm

He's used this as a brag TWICE now!

:D

It's an anecdote in support of my position.  Not bragging.
OK
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: Yard Dog on March 19, 2015, 09:29:38 AM


I spent much of my childhood there, and I didn't know a single farmer and in fact never stepped foot on a farm

He's used this as a brag TWICE now!

:D

It's an anecdote in support of my position.  Not bragging.

I can support this being that I was there on that EMU farm that day. For lunch we had scrambled EMU eggs. The most western Kansasy thing that Spracs was ever a part of I reckon.
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: Spracne on March 19, 2015, 09:43:03 AM
Hutch is really the enigma.  You can really only easily go places west from Hutch.  The Interstate ignored them for a reason.  They literally only got a four lane highway into town like 2 years ago.  They just don't fit the I-135/US 81 corridor and stick out like a sore thumb.

Yet its about the biggest KU hive west of Lawrence.  Thinking its a generational and collective attempt at transference to cover up their self loathing.

I'm no Hutch apologist, but that's literally not true. When I think of Western Kansas, I think of economies largely based on agriculture, and that's just not the case with Hutch.  I spent much of my childhood there, and I didn't know a single farmer and in fact never stepped foot on a farm (Did go to an emu farm for a field trip, once).  Whatever Wichita is, that's basically what Hutch is.  Wichita is our NYC, and we are northern New Jersey.

They were, back when interstate banking was prohibited, the financial center for farming.  Once that prohibition went away - they lost that identity. There's not much there that was thriving 40 years ago - salt production and ?

There just isn't anything that screams "This is Hutchinson"....

And K-96/US50/K61 to the west didn't build to Hutch - they stayed at arm's length several miles south so people could bypass Hutch.  It wasn't until K-61 north to - I-135 - and McPherson that a modern highway actually came in to Hutch.

I wasn't aware of the banking history.  To me, salt is the only historical identity.  Then there's Dillons, the Cosmosphere, the State Fair, and the NJCAA tournament.
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: Woogy on March 19, 2015, 09:49:16 AM
I wasn't aware of the banking history.  To me, salt is the only historical identity.  Then there's Dillons, the Cosmosphere, the State Fair, and the NJCAA tournament.

The Cosmosphere has always been good.  Haven't been to the fair in ages.  I really hope the tournament stays around - that's been fun to attend the couple of times I've gone.  Did they get the requested improvements planned out and underway enough to extend the contract?  That truly is a nice thing to have.
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: Yard Dog on March 19, 2015, 09:49:24 AM
Hutch is really the enigma.  You can really only easily go places west from Hutch.  The Interstate ignored them for a reason.  They literally only got a four lane highway into town like 2 years ago.  They just don't fit the I-135/US 81 corridor and stick out like a sore thumb.

Yet its about the biggest KU hive west of Lawrence.  Thinking its a generational and collective attempt at transference to cover up their self loathing.

I'm no Hutch apologist, but that's literally not true. When I think of Western Kansas, I think of economies largely based on agriculture, and that's just not the case with Hutch.  I spent much of my childhood there, and I didn't know a single farmer and in fact never stepped foot on a farm (Did go to an emu farm for a field trip, once).  Whatever Wichita is, that's basically what Hutch is.  Wichita is our NYC, and we are northern New Jersey.

They were, back when interstate banking was prohibited, the financial center for farming.  Once that prohibition went away - they lost that identity. There's not much there that was thriving 40 years ago - salt production and ?

There just isn't anything that screams "This is Hutchinson"....

And K-96/US50/K61 to the west didn't build to Hutch - they stayed at arm's length several miles south so people could bypass Hutch.  It wasn't until K-61 north to - I-135 - and McPherson that a modern highway actually came in to Hutch.

I wasn't aware of the banking history.  To me, salt is the only historical identity.  Then there's Dillons, the Cosmosphere, the State Fair, and the NJCAA tournament.

I remember learning in elementary school that Hutchinson was given the choice between the University of Kansas or the Kansas State fair. They chose the fair due to its viewed profitability. The railroad industry also wanted to bring the railroad through Hutchinson but Hutch wanted nothing to do with those dirty cowboys from Dodge City so the railroad ended up going through Wichita. The history of Hutchinson is a list of missed opportunities that could have made it the biggest city in Kansas. Instead it is a nice restaurant and retirement community great for raising families.

Fair to note that there are many from Hutchinson who claim that it is the real version of Smallville. So it is the "home of Superman" as well.
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on March 19, 2015, 09:52:27 AM
Hutch is a farm community. There is farmland as far as the eye can see in every direction from that town. There is an entire Amish community right next door.
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: Spracne on March 19, 2015, 09:56:45 AM
Hutch is really the enigma.  You can really only easily go places west from Hutch.  The Interstate ignored them for a reason.  They literally only got a four lane highway into town like 2 years ago.  They just don't fit the I-135/US 81 corridor and stick out like a sore thumb.

Yet its about the biggest KU hive west of Lawrence.  Thinking its a generational and collective attempt at transference to cover up their self loathing.

I'm no Hutch apologist, but that's literally not true. When I think of Western Kansas, I think of economies largely based on agriculture, and that's just not the case with Hutch.  I spent much of my childhood there, and I didn't know a single farmer and in fact never stepped foot on a farm (Did go to an emu farm for a field trip, once).  Whatever Wichita is, that's basically what Hutch is.  Wichita is our NYC, and we are northern New Jersey.

They were, back when interstate banking was prohibited, the financial center for farming.  Once that prohibition went away - they lost that identity. There's not much there that was thriving 40 years ago - salt production and ?

There just isn't anything that screams "This is Hutchinson"....

And K-96/US50/K61 to the west didn't build to Hutch - they stayed at arm's length several miles south so people could bypass Hutch.  It wasn't until K-61 north to - I-135 - and McPherson that a modern highway actually came in to Hutch.

I wasn't aware of the banking history.  To me, salt is the only historical identity.  Then there's Dillons, the Cosmosphere, the State Fair, and the NJCAA tournament.

I remember learning in elementary school that Hutchinson was given the choice between the University of Kansas or the Kansas State fair. They chose the fair due to its viewed profitability. The railroad industry also wanted to bring the railroad through Hutchinson but Hutch wanted nothing to do with those dirty cowboys from Dodge City so the railroad ended up going through Wichita. The history of Hutchinson is a list of missed opportunities that could have made it the biggest city in Kansas. Instead it is a nice restaurant and retirement community great for raising families.

Fair to note that there are many from Hutchinson who claim that it is the real version of Smallville. So it is the "home of Superman" as well.

The Smallville thing and that (false) state fair v. University legend are both very good examples of the Hutch mentality.  KU was founded in 1863, a full 8 years before Hutchinson.
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: PIPE on March 19, 2015, 10:08:31 AM
So I guess all of this "western Kansas" talk is just filler crap in the "Marcus" thread until we hear if Marcus has left the team or picked up an std while in Padre?? :buh-bye:
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: illBisonYourdele on March 19, 2015, 10:12:45 AM
Hutch is really the enigma.  You can really only easily go places west from Hutch.  The Interstate ignored them for a reason.  They literally only got a four lane highway into town like 2 years ago.  They just don't fit the I-135/US 81 corridor and stick out like a sore thumb.

Yet its about the biggest KU hive west of Lawrence.  Thinking its a generational and collective attempt at transference to cover up their self loathing.

I'm no Hutch apologist, but that's literally not true. When I think of Western Kansas, I think of economies largely based on agriculture, and that's just not the case with Hutch.  I spent much of my childhood there, and I didn't know a single farmer and in fact never stepped foot on a farm (Did go to an emu farm for a field trip, once).  Whatever Wichita is, that's basically what Hutch is.  Wichita is our NYC, and we are northern New Jersey.

They were, back when interstate banking was prohibited, the financial center for farming.  Once that prohibition went away - they lost that identity. There's not much there that was thriving 40 years ago - salt production and ?

There just isn't anything that screams "This is Hutchinson"....

And K-96/US50/K61 to the west didn't build to Hutch - they stayed at arm's length several miles south so people could bypass Hutch.  It wasn't until K-61 north to - I-135 - and McPherson that a modern highway actually came in to Hutch.

I wasn't aware of the banking history.  To me, salt is the only historical identity.  Then there's Dillons, the Cosmosphere, the State Fair, and the NJCAA tournament.

I remember learning in elementary school that Hutchinson was given the choice between the University of Kansas or the Kansas State fair. They chose the fair due to its viewed profitability. The railroad industry also wanted to bring the railroad through Hutchinson but Hutch wanted nothing to do with those dirty cowboys from Dodge City so the railroad ended up going through Wichita. The history of Hutchinson is a list of missed opportunities that could have made it the biggest city in Kansas. Instead it is a nice restaurant and retirement community great for raising families.

Fair to note that there are many from Hutchinson who claim that it is the real version of Smallville. So it is the "home of Superman" as well.

The Smallville thing and that (false) state fair v. University legend are both very good examples of the Hutch mentality.  KU was founded in 1863 1865, a full 8 years before Hutchinson.

 :nono:
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: Spracne on March 19, 2015, 10:13:56 AM
I meant when the bill was signed.
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: mocat on March 19, 2015, 10:18:05 AM
spracne, why didn't you participate in steve dave's farm thread?
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: Spracne on March 19, 2015, 10:20:51 AM
spracne, why didn't you participate in steve dave's farm thread?

 :dubious:
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: illBisonYourdele on March 19, 2015, 10:24:25 AM
pertinent to the discussion

Quote from: wikipedia

The early years of the institution witnessed debate over whether the college should provide a focused agricultural education or a full liberal arts education. During this era, the tenor of the school shifted with the tenure of college presidents. For example, President John A. Anderson (1873–1879) favored a limited education and President George T. Fairchild (1879–1897) favored a classic liberal education.[8][13] Fairchild was credited with saying, "Our college exists not so much to make men farmers as to make farmers men."[8]

Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: ltrain on March 19, 2015, 10:28:29 AM
Hutch is where people from Western Kansas move to when they want to be close to doctors but don't want to live in the city (aka Wichita).
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: Yard Dog on March 19, 2015, 10:35:47 AM
Hutch is where people from Western Kansas move to when they want to be close to doctors but don't want to live in the city (aka Wichita).

I can live with that. The medical services in Hutchinson are actually really good. (perhaps because there are so many retirees) It isn't podunk (has stores and restaurants you expect from a bigger city) but it maintains that small community feel. Win win for families if you ask me.

I wonder how Marcus would have turned out if he was from Hutch. Probably a football stud. Just a guess though.
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: mocat on March 19, 2015, 10:37:19 AM
HUTCH
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: Trim on March 19, 2015, 10:39:18 AM
I grew up in north central Kansas (almost straight north of St John). I think most people from the central part of the state divide the state into thirds. Western Kansas starts at a line that runs through Hays. JMHO.

:lol:

no way it's way east of that. we had this discussion in a bball chat, I believe. @tobias might remember.

We did, and solved it I think.  Basketball chat is very productive.

Yep and I won the debate, the western/central Kansas border is a straight line south to north from Barber County to Smith County. Dumbass Pawnee County messes the straight line up but there is no doubt Pawnee County is Western KS

http://www.filmkansas.com/s3.amazonaws.com/production.ksfilm.webapeel.com/ksfilm/assets/2011/2/17/1515/kshighwayscolorborderresize.png

You mean the western borders of those counties is the line, right?

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I intentionally left that bit of info out because if I need to differentiate that for you it's a sign this conversation isn't one you should be involved in.

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Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: michigancat on March 19, 2015, 10:43:39 AM
Yard Dog is perhaps the most wide-eyed yokel on this blog
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: Yard Dog on March 19, 2015, 10:49:56 AM
Yard Dog is perhaps the most wide-eyed yokel on this blog

According to Webster:  Yokel - "an uneducated and unsophisticated person from the countryside"

I graduated from K-State with a bachelors and grew up in the city.  :dunno:

I do enjoy watching football way more than going to the symphony, so you might have me on the unsophisticated part.
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: michigancat on March 19, 2015, 11:17:17 AM
Yard Dog is perhaps the most wide-eyed yokel on this blog

According to Webster:  Yokel - "an uneducated and unsophisticated person from the countryside"

I graduated from K-State with a bachelors and grew up in the city.  :dunno:

I do enjoy watching football way more than going to the symphony, so you might have me on the unsophisticated part.

I mean, you think HUTCH is "the city"
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: Yard Dog on March 19, 2015, 11:26:08 AM
Yard Dog is perhaps the most wide-eyed yokel on this blog

According to Webster:  Yokel - "an uneducated and unsophisticated person from the countryside"

I graduated from K-State with a bachelors and grew up in the city.  :dunno:

I do enjoy watching football way more than going to the symphony, so you might have me on the unsophisticated part.

I mean, you think HUTCH is "the city"

Population: 42,000
Area: 22.75 sq. Miles

From Wikipedia
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Hutchinson is a city of the first class with a council-manager form of government.[31] The city council consists of five members. For purposes of representation in the council, the city is divided into four districts with one council member elected to a four-year term from each district. The fifth council member is elected at-large to a two-year term. Every year, the council selects one member to serve as mayor and another as vice-mayor. Council members are term limited and may not serve for more than one partial term plus two consecutive four-year terms. The council sets policy for the city and oversees the city manager who executes those policies. Hired by the council, the city manager serves as the city's chief administrative officer, administers the city budget, and conducts daily city business. Council meetings occur on the first and third Tuesday of each month, broadcast live on local cable channel 7.[32]

As the county seat, Hutchinson is the administrative center of Reno County. The county courthouse is located downtown, and all departments of the county government base their operations in the city.[33]

From About.com:
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In the United States, an incorporated city is a legally defined government entity, with powers delegated by the state and county and created and approved by the voters of the city. It can provide local government services to its citizens.

Sounds like a city to me.
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: mocat on March 19, 2015, 11:34:52 AM
anybody still want to classify Hutch in the non-western portion of Kansas?
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: michigancat on March 19, 2015, 11:36:21 AM
anybody still want to classify Hutch in the non-western portion of Kansas?

I used to think they weren't but spracne and yard dog successfully changed my mind
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: Spracne on March 19, 2015, 11:41:05 AM
Hey, you're free to believe whatever you city-slicker elitists want to.
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: Yard Dog on March 19, 2015, 11:45:21 AM
Hey, you're free to believe whatever you city-slicker elitists want to.

 :cheers:
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: wetwillie on March 19, 2015, 12:42:29 PM
I remember being a freshman in high school and a girl moved from kansas city to salina and told me she couldn't believe she had to move to western kansas.  At the time I thought she hadn't seen a map of kansas but now I realize she was just a visionary.
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: mocat on March 19, 2015, 01:02:16 PM
I remember being a freshman in high school and a girl moved from kansas city to salina and told me she couldn't believe she had to move to western kansas.  At the time I thought she hadn't seen a map of kansas but now I realize she was just a visionary.

yes she was 100% correct. see my earlier post about what defines "Upstate" NY
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on March 19, 2015, 01:15:03 PM
I remember being a freshman in high school and a girl moved from kansas city to salina and told me she couldn't believe she had to move to western kansas.  At the time I thought she hadn't seen a map of kansas but now I realize she was just a visionary.

yes she was 100% correct. see my earlier post about what defines "Upstate" NY

No, Salina is central KS. It's not good enough to be western KS.
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on March 19, 2015, 01:17:48 PM
Also, guys, Kansas isn't in the Midwest. It's a western state. Mocat is one of the only white midwesterners on this board.
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: Lucas Scoopsalot on March 19, 2015, 01:19:27 PM
I always thought of salina as the cutoff for western ks, but Michigancat has me convinced on the barber to smith county line as the western ks line.
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: Dugout DickStone on March 19, 2015, 01:33:14 PM
This "is Hutch a city" off has been brewing since the board started.  trust me when I say the mods have a built in contingency plan for when it gets out of control.
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: michigancat on March 19, 2015, 01:40:52 PM
Also, guys, Kansas isn't in the Midwest. It's a western state. Mocat is one of the only white midwesterners on this board.

What if I told you western Kansas was part of the West, but eastern Kansas was part of the Midwest? :surprised:
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: Woogy on March 19, 2015, 01:43:52 PM
"City Slickers"

http://www.wheatstate.ku.edu/ (http://www.wheatstate.ku.edu/)
http://archive.news.ku.edu/2001/01N/MayNews/May10/wheatstate.html (http://archive.news.ku.edu/2001/01N/MayNews/May10/wheatstate.html)

Wonder why they stopped after 2011?  Cutbacks?  Felt they had seen it all? :bs: :Carl: :cyclist: :opcat: :cactus: :shooturmouth:


Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: Pete on March 19, 2015, 02:01:43 PM
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Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: 0.42 on March 19, 2015, 02:27:53 PM
Rural Kansans referring to towns of ~50,000 like MHK as "the city" and Wichita as "the big city" was always super fascinating/hilarious to me
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: EMAWzified on March 19, 2015, 02:29:47 PM
Rural Kansans referring to towns of ~50,000 like MHK as "the city" and Wichita as "the big city" was always super fascinating/hilarious to me

If you grew up in a town of twofiddy, you'd understand.
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: slobber on March 19, 2015, 02:59:48 PM

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/thread
Southern Kansas.
HCOIQ joke.


Gonna win 'em all!
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on March 19, 2015, 04:59:37 PM

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/thread
Southern Kansas.
HCOIQ joke.


Gonna win 'em all!

Yeah, that's southeast Kansas.
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: puniraptor on March 19, 2015, 05:11:51 PM
i think maybe slopper is making a snizz joke?
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: joda on March 19, 2015, 05:35:32 PM
Central Kansas starts at Highway 75, I can live with the Barber-Smith line as the beginning of Western Kansas, but I think it starts a little farther east. Think mid-point of the Harper-Jewell corridor, so basically Hutch is the Kansas City of the border.
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: mocat on March 19, 2015, 06:38:45 PM
Also, guys, Kansas isn't in the Midwest. It's a western state. Mocat is one of the only white midwesterners on this board.

:gocho:
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: puniraptor on March 19, 2015, 07:04:14 PM
missouri is The South.
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: sys on March 19, 2015, 07:08:52 PM
missouri is The South.

eastern missouri is the south, western missouri is the midwest.
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: puniraptor on March 19, 2015, 07:13:22 PM
missouri is The South.

eastern missouri is the south, western missouri is the midwest.


wheres that line? cuba?
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: sys on March 19, 2015, 07:23:20 PM
i think it's a diagonal line that passes somewhere around the columbia/jeff city area on it's way from the ne corner to the sw corner.
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: 60scat on March 19, 2015, 07:34:34 PM
I live 15 miles from the Colorado line down here in SWKs.    Further out than Dodge City or even Garden City.
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: 60scat on March 19, 2015, 07:36:03 PM
And, what happened to the part of the thread that applied to Marcus?
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: Trim on March 19, 2015, 07:43:33 PM
And, what happened to the part of the thread that applied to Marcus?

It's on the other side of the line.
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on March 19, 2015, 07:55:10 PM
missouri is The South.

I'm stunned more people don't recognize this.  So is everything south of hwy 50 in KS. If it takes longer than 5 minutes to get a coke at mcdonald's,  you're in the south
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: ben ji on March 19, 2015, 11:04:12 PM
Guys, I'm pretty much a KS Geography expert due to my bloodlines so let me settle this for you.

But first some background to backup my points.

Dad's Family - Western KS folk (Thomas County)

Mom's Family- Central KS folk (Riley County*)

Born/Raised - Eastern KS folk (Johnson County).


Rough dividing line goes

Eastern KS- Topeka and everything east.

Central KS- Everything between Hays and Topeka

Western KS- Everything west of hays


*Did you know that ben ji and Jordy Nelson related? Yup, my grandma and his grandma were cousins. Shout out to my great aunt Irene for pointing this out a couple years ago. 
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: joda on March 19, 2015, 11:12:30 PM
Guys, I'm pretty much a KS Geography expert due to my bloodlines so let me settle this for you.

But first some background to backup my points.

Dad's Family - Western KS folk (Thomas County)

Mom's Family- Central KS folk (Riley County*)

Born/Raised - Eastern KS folk (Johnson County).


Rough dividing line goes

Eastern KS- Topeka and everything east.

Central KS- Everything between Hays and Topeka

Western KS- Everything west of hays


*Did you know that ben ji and Jordy Nelson related? Yup, my grandma and his grandma were cousins. Shout out to my great aunt Irene for pointing this out a couple years ago.

Hays is so far into W. Kansas it's not even funny
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: ben ji on March 19, 2015, 11:13:58 PM
Guys, I'm pretty much a KS Geography expert due to my bloodlines so let me settle this for you.

But first some background to backup my points.

Dad's Family - Western KS folk (Thomas County)

Mom's Family- Central KS folk (Riley County*)

Born/Raised - Eastern KS folk (Johnson County).


Rough dividing line goes

Eastern KS- Topeka and everything east.

Central KS- Everything between Hays and Topeka

Western KS- Everything west of hays


*Did you know that ben ji and Jordy Nelson related? Yup, my grandma and his grandma were cousins. Shout out to my great aunt Irene for pointing this out a couple years ago.

Hays is so far into W. Kansas it's not even funny
Denied, hays is the gateway to western ks.
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: joda on March 19, 2015, 11:21:52 PM
Guys, I'm pretty much a KS Geography expert due to my bloodlines so let me settle this for you.

But first some background to backup my points.

Dad's Family - Western KS folk (Thomas County)

Mom's Family- Central KS folk (Riley County*)

Born/Raised - Eastern KS folk (Johnson County).


Rough dividing line goes

Eastern KS- Topeka and everything east.

Central KS- Everything between Hays and Topeka

Western KS- Everything west of hays


*Did you know that ben ji and Jordy Nelson related? Yup, my grandma and his grandma were cousins. Shout out to my great aunt Irene for pointing this out a couple years ago.

Hays is so far into W. Kansas it's not even funny
Denied, hays is the gateway to western ks.

Denied the denial. Pratt, Russell, Great Bend, Medicine Lodge- All W. Kansas, all east of Hays.
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: sys on March 19, 2015, 11:37:41 PM
riley county isn't central kansas.  jesus rough ridin' christ, what a ridiculous notion.
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: AndrewVonLintel on March 19, 2015, 11:47:09 PM
I agree with Joda. Cheyenne Bottoms (just north of Great Bend) is the last reliable natural (sorta) water area.

I think that before the Colorado Water Pirates drained the arKansas river, Great Bend was probably central kansas but it is now hard to argue that Great Bend isn't Western Kansas. Anything west of Great Bend is clearly Western Kansas like Lacrosse, Larned, Greensburg, Russell.

Anyway thanks to oscar for making us twiddle our thumbs and argue about Kansas Geography instead of something fun...... :Carl:
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: Stevesie60 on March 19, 2015, 11:49:46 PM
Well who in the world would have thought that all these people from west of Manhattan would try to say that there was a Central Kansas ( :lol: ) and that they were from it?
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: michigancat on March 19, 2015, 11:50:13 PM
riley county isn't central kansas.  jesus rough ridin' christ, what a ridiculous notion.

The northern half of Kansas doesn't even have a central Kansas!

When I was close to the western KS line, a huge mental boundary to Western Kansas was leaving the reach of Wichita radio stations. So like, Pratt was the first Western Kansas town, which pretty much supports MiR's Barber to Jewell county line assertion. Further north, past 135/Salina became western KS. North of Salina? who cares
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: puniraptor on March 19, 2015, 11:52:48 PM
so basically west of wherever anyone is from is western kansas.
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: michigancat on March 19, 2015, 11:54:59 PM
so basically west of wherever anyone is from is western kansas.


MiR is from Garden City but you're pretty much correct
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: puniraptor on March 19, 2015, 11:57:18 PM
i think probably salina to hays is the Near West and then hays to kanorado is the Far West
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: yoman on March 19, 2015, 11:57:37 PM
Guys, I'm pretty much a KS Geography expert due to my bloodlines so let me settle this for you.

But first some background to backup my points.

Dad's Family - Western KS folk (Thomas County)

Mom's Family- Central KS folk (Riley County*)

Born/Raised - Eastern KS folk (Johnson County).


Rough dividing line goes

Eastern KS- Topeka and everything east.

Central KS- Everything between Hays and Topeka

Western KS- Everything west of hays


*Did you know that ben ji and Jordy Nelson related? Yup, my grandma and his grandma were cousins. Shout out to my great aunt Irene for pointing this out a couple years ago.

Hays is so far into W. Kansas it's not even funny
Denied, hays is the gateway to western ks.

Denied the denial. Pratt, Russell, Great Bend, Medicine Lodge- All W. Kansas, all east of Hays.

Having grown up in one of the small towns mentioned, canco. It was western Kansas. College in Eastern Kansas was nice.
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on March 19, 2015, 11:58:44 PM
riley county isn't central kansas.  jesus rough ridin' christ, what a ridiculous notion.

The northern half of Kansas doesn't even have a central Kansas!

No, Salina is in the north half and is in central KS.
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: slackcat on March 20, 2015, 04:48:39 AM
It's all relative.   :bigtoke:
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: mocat on March 20, 2015, 07:40:47 AM
You guys, benji just put Topeka in eastern Kansas. Can we all point and laugh at him now? Have you guys ever been to Topeka? Omg lol
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: CHONGS on March 20, 2015, 08:06:53 AM
The dividing line runs through council grove.
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on March 20, 2015, 08:53:37 AM
You guys, benji just put Topeka in eastern Kansas. Can we all point and laugh at him now? Have you guys ever been to Topeka? Omg lol

Yeah, it's definitely eastern KS. You could make a case for western Missouri.
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: mocat on March 20, 2015, 09:02:03 AM
You guys, benji just put Topeka in eastern Kansas. Can we all point and laugh at him now? Have you guys ever been to Topeka? Omg lol

Yeah, it's definitely eastern KS. You could make a case for western Missouri.

OMG!  :lol:
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: mocat on March 20, 2015, 09:03:02 AM
if you made a venn diagram of central kansas and western kansas, the entire central kansas circle would be inside the western kansas circle.
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 20, 2015, 09:07:34 AM
I hate this thread.  :buh-bye:
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on March 20, 2015, 09:07:53 AM
if you made a venn diagram of central kansas and western kansas, the entire central kansas circle would be inside the western kansas circle.

You clearly have never spent any time whatsoever in western Kansas.
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: mocat on March 20, 2015, 09:13:45 AM
the vast majority of kansas is in fact western kansas. and "central kansas" is just a part of western kansas that western kansans like to think is separate.

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Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on March 20, 2015, 09:19:59 AM
the vast majority of kansas is in fact western kansas. and "central kansas" is just a part of western kansas that western kansans like to think is separate.

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Foi57.tinypic.com%2F2agiv6d.jpg&hash=7a934a4382d88d3a55ced56f933d59fe646b7d05)

Central Kansas is a rectangle that goes from Wichita up to Salina. Coffeeville is in eastern Kansas. It's not like eastern Kansas is some mecca that is too good for Topeka.
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: mocat on March 20, 2015, 09:28:58 AM
 :lol:
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: stunted on March 20, 2015, 09:43:37 AM
You're assuming people think of eastern Kansas when they think of Kansas
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: Jabeez on March 20, 2015, 09:52:07 AM
I'm stealing that venn diagram.  It's fantastic.
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: mocat on March 20, 2015, 10:04:52 AM
It's not like eastern Kansas is some mecca that is too good for Topeka.

like, holy crap man :lol:
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on March 20, 2015, 10:06:12 AM
I thought that was pretty good, too. :D
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on March 20, 2015, 10:09:04 AM
It would be nice if Manhattan and Topeka could switch locations so Topeka, Junction City, and Salina could be their own shitty region.
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: XocolateThundarr on March 20, 2015, 10:17:03 AM
I guess I'm from East-Western Kansas.  Who knew? :dunno:
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: kstatefan11 on March 20, 2015, 10:25:25 AM
The problem ITT is we're painting with too broad of a brush. And we're using the wrong terminology.

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.kgs.ku.edu%2FPhysio%2Fphysio3.gif&hash=f05f6cbb282cd3c681309fc608e5642e3c84479e)

Disagree if you want, but take it up with known stud Geography of Kansas prof Chuck Martin.
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: renocat on March 20, 2015, 10:26:35 AM
If you want real man Kansas talk, gloat about the geographical region you are from.  This can tell you much about the person.  I am from the red jaw hill country of Reno, Sedgwick, and Kingman  Counties.  Poor soil and hardscrabble farms with more scrawny cows than people.  You can still find jackrabbits.
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on March 20, 2015, 10:39:13 AM
If you want real man Kansas talk, gloat about the geographical region you are from.  This can tell you much about the person.  I am from the red jaw hill country of Reno, Sedgwick, and Kingman  Counties.  Poor soil and hardscrabble farms with more scrawny cows than people.  You can still find jackrabbits.

Spracne pretended you didn't exist when he lived in Reno County.
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: Skipper44 on March 20, 2015, 10:44:58 AM
If you want real man Kansas talk, gloat about the geographical region you are from.  This can tell you much about the person.  I am from the red jaw hill country of Reno, Sedgwick, and Kingman  Counties.  Poor soil and hardscrabble farms with more scrawny cows than people.  You can still find jackrabbits.

Spracne pretended you didn't exist when he lived in Reno County.
this is easily Spracne's most squawk trait
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: mocat on March 20, 2015, 10:47:38 AM
The problem ITT is we're painting with too broad of a brush. And we're using the wrong terminology.

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.kgs.ku.edu%2FPhysio%2Fphysio3.gif&hash=f05f6cbb282cd3c681309fc608e5642e3c84479e)

Disagree if you want, but take it up with known stud Geography of Kansas prof Chuck Martin.

that's a great breakdown of western kansas
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: Spracne on March 20, 2015, 07:19:15 PM
How do you pretend a fake person doesn't exist?
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: ben ji on March 20, 2015, 10:29:16 PM
The problem ITT is we're painting with too broad of a brush. And we're using the wrong terminology.

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.kgs.ku.edu%2FPhysio%2Fphysio3.gif&hash=f05f6cbb282cd3c681309fc608e5642e3c84479e)

Disagree if you want, but take it up with known stud Geography of Kansas prof Chuck Martin.

Great support for my argument kstatefan11!

Glaciated/Osage Cuestas aka Eastern KS (Topeka -> East)

Smoky/Flint/Red Hills/Arkansas River Lowlands aka Central KS (Hays -> Topeka)

High Plains aka Western KS (Colorado -> Hays)
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: ben ji on March 20, 2015, 10:41:47 PM
I super imposed Hays and Topeka on this map to help those of you still struggling.

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ftapatalk.imageshack.com%2Fv2%2F15%2F03%2F20%2F43611c76c0f1a4fd7edf7d6901e47777.jpg&hash=2e58c9990b5dae755cee1eadebf2384018cbe856)

One COULD make an argument that eastern KS should start at Manhattan but i would argue that once you get west of Topeka tall grass prairie takes over and trees become scarce.
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on March 20, 2015, 10:45:12 PM
topeka and east is east.

salina/wichita line and east to topeka is central.

everything west of salina/wichita is west.

only a dumbass would disagree.
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: puniraptor on March 20, 2015, 10:48:04 PM
Doesn't Salina call itself "The Gateway to the West"?
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on March 20, 2015, 10:53:04 PM
I hate the high plains.

The Gyp Hills, Flint Hills and Chataqua Hills are pretty incredible
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: ben ji on March 20, 2015, 10:53:57 PM
topeka and east is east.

salina/wichita line and east to topeka is central.

everything west of salina/wichita is west.

only a dumbass would disagree.


Rowdy, Did you see my map? Salina is in the middle of the state and in the middle of the Smoky Hills Geographic region. You have to get to hays before you start hitting the "High Plains" AKA western ks.
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: sys on March 21, 2015, 12:09:04 AM
Rowdy, Did you see my map? Salina is in the middle of the state and in the middle of the Smoky Hills Geographic region. You have to get to hays before you start hitting the "High Plains" AKA western ks.

yeah, but your map was Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).  you put timber rattlesnakes and worm snakes in central kansas, for god's sake.
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: sys on March 21, 2015, 12:13:42 AM
here, use this to make a coherent map.

http://webcat.fhsu.edu/ksfauna/herps/index.asp?page=species
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: michigancat on March 21, 2015, 12:18:04 AM
smoky hills/high plains/Red Hills = western kansas
Flint Hills and eat = eatern kansas
wellington/mcpherson lowlands = south central kansas
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on March 21, 2015, 01:30:20 AM
topeka and east is east.

salina/wichita line and east to topeka is central.

everything west of salina/wichita is west.

only a dumbass would disagree.


Rowdy, Did you see my map? Salina is in the middle of the state and in the middle of the Smoky Hills Geographic region. You have to get to hays before you start hitting the "High Plains" AKA western ks.

I know where Salinas is. I've lived here my whole life minus one year. west of Salinas is west. its not geographical. it just is what it is.
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: PoetWarrior on March 21, 2015, 10:12:37 AM
One man arguing with himself.


Who's starting the new board?
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: Dugout DickStone on March 21, 2015, 10:17:25 AM
One man arguing with himself.


Who's starting the new board?

Me and you bro.
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: Tobias on April 03, 2015, 11:08:56 PM

:lol:

no way it's way east of that. we had this discussion in a bball chat, I believe. @tobias might remember.

reading this thread for the first time has been a true Friday night treat :lol:
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: 0.42 on April 06, 2015, 12:29:56 PM
The problem ITT is we're painting with too broad of a brush. And we're using the wrong terminology.

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.kgs.ku.edu%2FPhysio%2Fphysio3.gif&hash=f05f6cbb282cd3c681309fc608e5642e3c84479e)

Disagree if you want, but take it up with known stud Geography of Kansas prof Chuck Martin.

 :Wha: do i know you ksf11?
Title: Re: Your boy Marcus
Post by: BringBackEcoKat on April 06, 2015, 09:57:56 PM
I actually saw Marcus on campus earlier today. I cried a little bit. Someone needs to get him a "Fire oscar" shirt. I'm sure that would help our cause.