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TITLETOWN - A Decade Long Celebration Of The Greatest Achievement In College Athletics History => Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball => Topic started by: steve dave on March 12, 2015, 08:42:51 AM
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are we going to suck again? I feel like probably. hopefully not but probably. our recruiting is so ass'y and our coaches are even ass'y'er if that's possible.
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it seems like it's been a billion years since we missed the NCAA two seasons in a row. I hate doing that. I hate doing it one time in a row. man, suckville city usa population us guys.
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out of nowhere beems just started in on me on twitter last night. just gave it to me unprovoked. felt bad.
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but you know what really felt bad? he was right. HE WAS COMPLETELY RIGHT! we do suck and are gonna keep sucking prolly.
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This season was probably the worst coaching job in NCAA basketball history. Next year's team could probably have a winning record and a few quality wins and maybe make the tournament, despite being even worse than this year's team.
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This season was probably the worst coaching job in NCAA basketball history. Next year's team could probably have a winning record and a few quality wins and maybe make the tournament, despite being even worse than this year's team.
that would be amaze
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I think we'll be better next year
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We’ll have to get a definition of what “suck” is first. We finished with a losing season, I would imagine we’ll be “better” next year – oscar has basically already stated that he’s going to find the suckiest schedule possible and play it.
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I think we'll be better next year
As long as we don't overschedule
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We’ll have to get a definition of what “suck” is first. We finished with a losing season, I would imagine we’ll be “better” next year – oscar has basically already stated that he’s going to find the suckiest schedule possible and play it.
I know my place. I'm a KState fan not a Duke fan. I want to make the NCAA and that will completely placate me as a loser KSU fan. I know that's sad and losery but it's true.
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do we have to do next season? im still super sad. :bawl:
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We'll be better.
11-2 pre, 9-9 Big 12. 8 seed.
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Nino and Gip were our two most consistent guys this season. We'll have to find a couple of guys who show up every night. Not sure who is willing to step up to that role.
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Ideally we'd have a worse record than we did this year.
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I smell an extension guys! :excited:
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Yes, we are prolly going to suck. Did any of oscar's guys improve dramatically from last year to this year (serious question)? Doesn't seem like it. Do we expect that to change this offseason? Answer: Not likely.
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We'll be better.
11-2 pre, 9-9 Big 12. 8 seed.
Big 12 record broken down: 7-2 home, 2-7 away :frown:
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I smell an extension guys! :excited:
Yep. Advesity overcome.
It will be interesting if they just make it to the NIT next year what Currie does.
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With oscar, I'm afraid we're in for more of the same... Somewhere around .500
I could see us anywhere from another 15-17 to the leap to 17-15.
With that said, I'm firmly of the belief that Snyder could take over this group and get them to somewhere around 22-10 to 24-8 pre-tourney just by better knowing how to work with young people.
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rank the big 12 for next season guys. I know nothing about who other teams have coming back (because I barely follow stupid basketball anymore).
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#bruce2020
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bubble team that will have a better non-con record due to oscar not scheduling anything with a pulse. will probably miss out on tourney but will still post season because of great non con record. catch the excitement! get in the swing of it! it's a hit!
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Losing gip and nino will hurt super bad. I mean, how benchy is Marcus going to be? Will Wes play as aggessive as he has the last few games, or like he did the middle of the season? WTF is going to happen with our point?
I feel like unless we have one or two recruits ready to immediately produce at PG we will be worse.
Also, will DJamer be the old DJamer, where he is only good for some back up mins? Will he be healed? Will he have developed even though he is has been in a boot?
Too many questions to legitimately say we will be better, imo. I feel like the odds are we will be about the same or worse. What we may gain in development(lol, right. development hasn't been oscar's strong suit) we lose in consistency with gip and nino.
Next year is going to be an ugly, bumpy, frustrating ride, imo.
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Maybe with the super easy non-con, the team will look much better at transition / fast-pace offense and oscar will let it carry into B12 play (until they get destroyed in away games)
:drool:
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With oscar, I'm afraid we're in for more of the same... Somewhere around .500
I could see us anywhere from another 15-17 to the leap to 17-15.
With that said, I'm firmly of the belief that Snyder could take over this group and get them to somewhere around 22-10 to 24-8 pre-tourney just by better knowing how to work with young people.
17-15 should still equal oscar unemployment, imo.
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I feel like unless we have one or two recruits ready to immediately produce at PG we will be worse.
oscar is targeting spring juco mid-majory PGs.
so, yeah.
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I bet we win the big 12 next year.
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Remember how exciting it was at this point in the season over the past 6+ years? That excitement is gone and I'm not sure when it will come back.
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17-15 would get us into the NIT. Win a couple of games, maybe three, 20-win season :Woohoo: for all tuckville.
We're mumped.
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I bet we win the big 12 next year.
I'll take that bet
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I bet we win the big 12 next year.
I'll take that bet
http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=31240.300 :cf3dubious:
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With oscar, I'm afraid we're in for more of the same... Somewhere around .500
I could see us anywhere from another 15-17 to the leap to 17-15.
With that said, I'm firmly of the belief that Snyder could take over this group and get them to somewhere around 22-10 to 24-8 pre-tourney just by better knowing how to work with young people.
17-15 should still equal oscar unemployment, imo.
I agree wholeheartedly.
The thing is... I'm also convinced that this team has as much "talent" as any of the teams during the Frank era. If you've ever heard the saying "Hard work beats talent when talent doesn't work hard", then you'll have to look no further than the 2014-15 version of K-State hoops for a good example.
oscar has created a culture of lazy, excuse makers.
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I bet we win the big 12 next year.
I'll take that bet
Me too. And I'll pay up unlike the Chiefs dorks you made a bet with.
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I'm not sure why most people think this year's team was really talented. The talent was certainly good enough to win more games, but not better than any Frank team. On par with Wooly's last few years probably (which had adequate talent IMO). And yes, any lack of talent is on oscar ultimately.
Foster is a legit all league caliber player, but had a poor 2nd half of the season. Gip/Nino as HM all league types is about right, but that was their ceiling. Outside of those 2, the other guys just weren't there. Perhaps Johnson, Westicles, or even Edwards could develop to that point (I'm hopeful for it actually), but they weren't at that point this season, and I didn't expect them to be. I'm also hopeful that a couple of the new guys next year will be contributors to go with Foster along with someone else who returns getting much better. I'm also hoping for a healthy enough DJamer which I think could help a lot.
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With oscar, I'm afraid we're in for more of the same... Somewhere around .500
I could see us anywhere from another 15-17 to the leap to 17-15.
With that said, I'm firmly of the belief that Snyder could take over this group and get them to somewhere around 22-10 to 24-8 pre-tourney just by better knowing how to work with young people.
17-15 should still equal oscar unemployment, imo.
I agree wholeheartedly.
The thing is... I'm also convinced that this team has as much "talent" as any of the teams during the Frank era. If you've ever heard the saying "Hard work beats talent when talent doesn't work hard", then you'll have to look no further than the 2014-15 version of K-State hoops for a good example.
oscar has created a culture of lazy, excuse makers.
The team just reflects the coach. Remember oscar didn't start sounding alarms about attitude problems until the late December collapse. It was all excuseville after sad, no-effort outings against LBS and Pitt.
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With oscar, I'm afraid we're in for more of the same... Somewhere around .500
I could see us anywhere from another 15-17 to the leap to 17-15.
With that said, I'm firmly of the belief that Snyder could take over this group and get them to somewhere around 22-10 to 24-8 pre-tourney just by better knowing how to work with young people.
17-15 should still equal oscar unemployment, imo.
:lol:
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Who would you want out of the following guards:
Clent Stewart
Jevon
Frank Richards
I think I'd want Jevon least but I dunno guys.
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Who would you want out of the following guards:
Clent Stewart
Jevon
Frank Richards
I think I'd want Jevon least but I dunno guys.
Clent, hands down.
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I hope every single player quits or transfers. Just end this program's throat
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Who would you want out of the following guards:
Clent Stewart
Jevon
Frank Richards
I think I'd want Jevon least but I dunno guys.
Jevon's stats aren't close to Frank's. Of course, Frank was a Juco.
He was pretty comparable to Clent IIRC from the comparo threads before everyone realized how overmatched Jevon was.
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I'm not sure why most people think this year's team was really talented. The talent was certainly good enough to win more games, but not better than any Frank team. On par with Wooly's last few years probably (which had adequate talent IMO). And yes, any lack of talent is on oscar ultimately.
Foster is a legit all league caliber player, but had a poor 2nd half of the season. Gip/Nino as HM all league types is about right, but that was their ceiling. Outside of those 2, the other guys just weren't there. Perhaps Johnson, Westicles, or even Edwards could develop to that point (I'm hopeful for it actually), but they weren't at that point this season, and I didn't expect them to be. I'm also hopeful that a couple of the new guys next year will be contributors to go with Foster along with someone else who returns getting much better. I'm also hoping for a healthy enough DJamer which I think could help a lot.
Tough to have a lot of optimism when we're hoping for that much to happen.
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Who would you want out of the following guards:
Clent Stewart
Jevon
Frank Richards
I think I'd want Jevon least but I dunno guys.
Jevon's stats aren't close to Frank's. Of course, Frank was a Juco.
He was pretty comparable to Clent IIRC from the comparo threads before everyone realized how overmatched Jevon was.
SO Jevon vs SO Clent vs JR Frank (you can compare different seasons for each player after you click the link)
http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/compare?add=frank-richards&clent-stewart=2005-2006&frank-richards=2002-2003&i=1&p1=jevon-thomas&p2=clent-stewart
Jevon simply isn't a good enough "distributing" PG to put up with his complete inability to score. If he was over 10 assists per 100 and cut down his TOs significantly you can probably live with no scoring, but he's got to get a lot better at that other "true PG" stuff.
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but you know what really felt bad? he was right. HE WAS COMPLETELY RIGHT! we do suck and are gonna keep sucking prolly.
When beems is right about sports things are really messed up.
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k-state is definitely better than ____ next year?
not kansas
not texas
not iowa st
not okla
not okla st
not baylor
not wvu
not tcu
maybe tt, but i doubt it
stevedave nailed it, welcome to suckville city, population you guys.
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k-state is definitely better than ____ next year?
not kansas
not texas
not iowa st
not okla
not okla st
not baylor
not wvu
not tcu
maybe tt, but i doubt it
stevedave nailed it, welcome to suckville city, population you guys.
i'm kind of hoping for this tbh
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This is the problem with oscar, I'm not as down on the talent level as some of you. It's just that oscar is not capable of moving guys to the next level of play and physical ability.
I predict that Claws will be the poster child for this. Not bothered in the least by the level of high school ball, because by all accounts he destroyed 5a and 6a guys and performed well on the AAU circuit. oscar though, will not elevate his game to where it could go.
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oscar is a bad head basketball coach but i bet he's easy to manage if you were his boss.
oscar go do this.
ok.
oscar go do that.
ok.
oscar don't do this.
ok.
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I quit following recruiting. Are any of those guys #shooters? Because oscar needs #shooters in his offense. It was pretty easy to predict that we weren't going to be a good offensive team this year because, well, not enough #shooters.
So unless we have a #shooter influx coming in, I'm going with more loserville, population: us.
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This is the problem with oscar, I'm not as down on the talent level as some of you. It's just that oscar is not capable of moving guys to the next level of play and physical ability.
I predict that Claws will be the poster child for this. Not bothered in the least by the level of high school ball, because by all accounts he destroyed 5a and 6a guys and performed well on the AAU circuit. oscar though, will not elevate his game to where it could go.
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At this point, I wouldn't be shocked if Wade starts at the 4 next year by mid-season over Harris. It will be GREAT PR for oscar.
To be 100% honest, if Jevon transfers and we get DJamer back (healthy), I think we'll be a bubble team. The recruits don't look like they suck, but that's all a crapshoot for us, anyway.
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i hope we suck ass again so oscar can get the eff out of here
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Our point guard play is rough ridin' horrific most nights, unless one of the freshman can jump up and take that position, then we'll be bad again next year. You really can't win without an adequate point guard. Especially not when you're already trying to overcome oscar and the supreme weirdness of his program.
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Our point guard play is rough ridin' horrific most nights, unless one of the freshman can jump up and take that position, then we'll be bad again next year. You really can't win without an adequate point guard. Especially not when you're already trying to overcome oscar and the supreme weirdness of his program.
Not having anyone with an A:TO ratio better than 2:1 is really bad.
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My question is will this forum suck again? I know there is a direct correlation between how well the team does/doesn't do to how well this forum does but this season the posts for the most part were awful.
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My question is will this forum suck again? I know there is a direct correlation between how well the team does/doesn't do to how well this forum does but this season the posts for the most part were awful.
I can only control me and I think I made a few good posts this year
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Our point guard play is rough ridin' horrific most nights, unless one of the freshman can jump up and take that position, then we'll be bad again next year. You really can't win without an adequate point guard. Especially not when you're already trying to overcome oscar and the supreme weirdness of his program.
Not having anyone with an A:TO ratio better than 2:1 is really bad.
This brings up a really good point that maybe you've weighed in on, but I've been in and out the last few weeks, so I may have missed it.
It seems like in the last 5-6 games, Johnson was a much more adequate point guard as the season progressed. I say adequate, because he appeared to be much better off of the ball, but his A/TO ratio per 100 did go up a tick.
Do we think he can ever be a PG in the sense that if we treat him as a combo guard paired with Foster, he can do what needs to be done?
I don't pay near as much attention to the rotations as I should during games, mainly because I watch them while looking after my kids, but it feels like if we have Johnson/Foster/Westicles out there, we have some potential for balance on the perimeter on paper, but when they're in the game, it doesn't seem like it equates to points.
As long as Marcus is here, we're going to ultimately find ways to get him on the court as long as he's shooting alright. But there seems to be a night and day difference between Nigel when he plays on the ball and off of the ball, and I wonder if we're just better off getting a JUCO PG and letting him transfer or do whatever.
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If it’s a talent issue, oscar is responsible for the talent. If’s it’s a motivation issue, oscar is responsible for getting his players motivated (or recruiting players that are motivated).
We have enough talent to not finish with a below .500 record – and we allegedly had a coach who, if he could just recruit the players HE wanted and not those that everyone else wanted him to recruit, wouldn’t have these types of years.
I mean, Jevon is responsible for not sucking – but oscar is responsible for sucky Jevon being out there or not getting someone better to be out there instead. It’s fair to criticize both, however ultimate responsibility falls entirely on oscar.
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I'm not sure why most people think this year's team was really talented. The talent was certainly good enough to win more games, but not better than any Frank team. On par with Wooly's last few years probably (which had adequate talent IMO). And yes, any lack of talent is on oscar ultimately.
Foster is a legit all league caliber player, but had a poor 2nd half of the season. Gip/Nino as HM all league types is about right, but that was their ceiling. Outside of those 2, the other guys just weren't there. Perhaps Johnson, Westicles, or even Edwards could develop to that point (I'm hopeful for it actually), but they weren't at that point this season, and I didn't expect them to be. I'm also hopeful that a couple of the new guys next year will be contributors to go with Foster along with someone else who returns getting much better. I'm also hoping for a healthy enough DJamer which I think could help a lot.
"Really talented" may be a stretch, but I see it as such:
Foster - potential to be the best player in the conference as evidenced by his FR season. When he gets lazy, he's not so good.
Westicles - Showed flashes of being a really special kid this year and was a very pleasant surprise as a freshman. Had high hopes for him this season until he caught the lazy bug from (I assume) Foster.
Johnson - Very servicable point guard that does something many don't... score with consistency.
M. Harris - Not sure what we've really got here because he hasn't been pushed to improve yet.
We really need another athletic big or two and DJamer could be that if he comes back as he was before.
My main point is, again, this team would've looked infinitely more talented with the scrappiness and work ethic of Frank's teams.
Add in Gip and Nino and there was certainly enough "talent" to be top 3/4 in this conference with the proper work ethic/focus.
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If it’s a talent issue, oscar is responsible for the talent. If’s it’s a motivation issue, oscar is responsible for getting his players motivated (or recruiting players that are motivated).
We have enough talent to not finish with a below .500 record – and we allegedly had a coach who, if he could just recruit the players HE wanted and not those that everyone else wanted him to recruit, wouldn’t have these types of years.
I mean, Jevon is responsible for not sucking – but oscar is responsible for sucky Jevon being out there or not getting someone better to be out there instead. It’s fair to criticize both, however ultimate responsibility falls entirely on oscar.
Agreed.
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Well thats not an encouraging set of charts...
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My question is will this forum suck again? I know there is a direct correlation between how well the team does/doesn't do to how well this forum does but this season the posts for the most part were awful.
You're high. The worse our teams are, the better the bbs'ing
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I'm not sure why most people think this year's team was really talented. The talent was certainly good enough to win more games, but not better than any Frank team. On par with Wooly's last few years probably (which had adequate talent IMO). And yes, any lack of talent is on oscar ultimately.
Foster is a legit all league caliber player, but had a poor 2nd half of the season. Gip/Nino as HM all league types is about right, but that was their ceiling. Outside of those 2, the other guys just weren't there. Perhaps Johnson, Westicles, or even Edwards could develop to that point (I'm hopeful for it actually), but they weren't at that point this season, and I didn't expect them to be. I'm also hopeful that a couple of the new guys next year will be contributors to go with Foster along with someone else who returns getting much better. I'm also hoping for a healthy enough DJamer which I think could help a lot.
"Really talented" may be a stretch, but I see it as such:
Foster - potential to be the best player in the conference as evidenced by his FR season. When he gets lazy, he's not so good.
Westicles - Showed flashes of being a really special kid this year and was a very pleasant surprise as a freshman. Had high hopes for him this season until he caught the lazy bug from (I assume) Foster.
Johnson - Very servicable point guard that does something many don't... score with consistency.
M. Harris - Not sure what we've really got here because he hasn't been pushed to improve yet.
We really need another athletic big or two and DJamer could be that if he comes back as he was before.
My main point is, again, this team would've looked infinitely more talented with the scrappiness and work ethic of Frank's teams.
Add in Gip and Nino and there was certainly enough "talent" to be top 3/4 in this conference with the proper work ethic/focus.
Nigel is a terrible back up QB syndrome. He has games were he only plays 8 minutes because he is so terrible. He doesn't penetrate. Does get some straight line drives where he is looking to score. He has great games when he shoots well and gets out in transition. His best ability is his scoring. He is a 2 guard.
Jevon just needs to calm the eff down. Get his head on more straight and improve his shooting one more step and he will be fine. He can be a serviceable pg. Hopefully Deathbite size does hurt him too much, Kid can really shoot. But is a lead guard.
Our guard play yesterday was a dumpster fire, the three guys you expect to score, Marcus, Edwards and Nigel combined made one fg.
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yep Jevon is just thiiiiiis close I tell you, if the ball rolled/bounced a different way a couple of time this year he would be 2nd team honorable mention all b12 this year
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I'm not sure why most people think this year's team was really talented. The talent was certainly good enough to win more games, but not better than any Frank team. On par with Wooly's last few years probably (which had adequate talent IMO). And yes, any lack of talent is on oscar ultimately.
Foster is a legit all league caliber player, but had a poor 2nd half of the season. Gip/Nino as HM all league types is about right, but that was their ceiling. Outside of those 2, the other guys just weren't there. Perhaps Johnson, Westicles, or even Edwards could develop to that point (I'm hopeful for it actually), but they weren't at that point this season, and I didn't expect them to be. I'm also hopeful that a couple of the new guys next year will be contributors to go with Foster along with someone else who returns getting much better. I'm also hoping for a healthy enough DJamer which I think could help a lot.
"Really talented" may be a stretch, but I see it as such:
Foster - potential to be the best player in the conference as evidenced by his FR season. When he gets lazy, he's not so good.
Westicles - Showed flashes of being a really special kid this year and was a very pleasant surprise as a freshman. Had high hopes for him this season until he caught the lazy bug from (I assume) Foster.
Johnson - Very servicable point guard that does something many don't... score with consistency.
M. Harris - Not sure what we've really got here because he hasn't been pushed to improve yet.
We really need another athletic big or two and DJamer could be that if he comes back as he was before.
My main point is, again, this team would've looked infinitely more talented with the scrappiness and work ethic of Frank's teams.
Add in Gip and Nino and there was certainly enough "talent" to be top 3/4 in this conference with the proper work ethic/focus.
Nigel is a terrible back up QB syndrome. He has games were he only plays 8 minutes because he is so terrible. He doesn't penetrate. Does get some straight line drives where he is looking to score. He has great games when he shoots well and gets out in transition. His best ability is his scoring. He is a 2 guard.
Jevon just needs to calm the eff down. Get his head on more straight and improve his shooting one more step and he will be fine. He can be a serviceable pg. Hopefully Deathbite size does hurt him too much, Kid can really shoot. But is a lead guard.
Our guard play yesterday was a dumpster fire, the three guys you expect to score, Marcus, Edwards and Nigel combined made one fg.
Jevon just needs to go. I'm not sure why anyone would really think differently at this point.
I, personally, don't expect Edwards to score much. I think he has some versatility as a sixth man at the 2/3 positions, but he's shown me nothing to believe you can really expect consistent scoring from him.
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You would think ole oscar would be wary of and know how to spot these lazy/bad attitude players. I mean they cost him his job at Illinois.
Maybe he just has the worst luck when it comes to getting tricked by these kids you know? It's not his fault he is so trusting.
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http://cjonline.com/blog-post/kevin-haskin/2015-03-12/k-state-hoops-precarious-position
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Remember when we had like super fun exciting players and a kinda crazy but exciting coach and k state basketball was just just that hot shizz to talk about? Man.
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http://cjonline.com/blog-post/kevin-haskin/2015-03-12/k-state-hoops-precarious-position
we just had our worst season since 2003, I think we're beyond precarious.
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My question is will this forum suck again? I know there is a direct correlation between how well the team does/doesn't do to how well this forum does but this season the posts for the most part were awful.
You're high. The worse our teams are, the better the bbs'ing
Um.. I think that was my point, nob. We weren't very good this year (record wise) and this forum was lame. Maybe we're all just getting old?
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this place needs more steve daves and fewer people I've never heard of
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You would think ole oscar would be wary of and know how to spot these lazy/bad attitude players. I mean they cost him his job at Illinois.
Maybe he just has the worst luck when it comes to getting tricked by these kids you know? It's not his fault he is so trusting.
It's mind blowing that no one can ask him that question: why is it that the guys that won't buy in are "your guys". All we heard about for his first two years or whatever was how, at KSU, oscar would be able to recruit the players he wanted, rather than the ones that people wanted him to recruit (as was the case at Illinois, according to oscar).
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Selection Sunday is just basically "Sunday" for me this year. Sucks.
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You would think ole oscar would be wary of and know how to spot these lazy/bad attitude players. I mean they cost him his job at Illinois.
Maybe he just has the worst luck when it comes to getting tricked by these kids you know? It's not his fault he is so trusting.
It's mind blowing that no one can ask him that question: why is it that the guys that won't buy in are "your guys". All we heard about for his first two years or whatever was how, at KSU, oscar would be able to recruit the players he wanted, rather than the ones that people wanted him to recruit (as was the case at Illinois, according to oscar).
No sports reporter in the heartland has the balls to ask a question like that, nor do any probably remember that he used that excuse in the first place. Our local sports journalists are lazy and timid.
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You would think ole oscar would be wary of and know how to spot these lazy/bad attitude players. I mean they cost him his job at Illinois.
Maybe he just has the worst luck when it comes to getting tricked by these kids you know? It's not his fault he is so trusting.
It's mind blowing that no one can ask him that question: why is it that the guys that won't buy in are "your guys". All we heard about for his first two years or whatever was how, at KSU, oscar would be able to recruit the players he wanted, rather than the ones that people wanted him to recruit (as was the case at Illinois, according to oscar).
No sports reporter in the heartland has the balls to ask a question like that, nor do any probably remember that he used that excuse in the first place. Our local sports journalists are lazy and timid.
Yes, this is the question that needs to be asked. He said himself part of his failure at Illinois was recruiting the wrong kids, failing to coach toughness, and coaching "not to lose". Does he feel this is happening with this team and if not what is different? This doesn't seem hard.
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steve dave, the more I think about it the less I care. we'll probably suck but be a little better.
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You would think ole oscar would be wary of and know how to spot these lazy/bad attitude players. I mean they cost him his job at Illinois.
Maybe he just has the worst luck when it comes to getting tricked by these kids you know? It's not his fault he is so trusting.
It's mind blowing that no one can ask him that question: why is it that the guys that won't buy in are "your guys". All we heard about for his first two years or whatever was how, at KSU, oscar would be able to recruit the players he wanted, rather than the ones that people wanted him to recruit (as was the case at Illinois, according to oscar).
No sports reporter in the heartland has the balls to ask a question like that, nor do any probably remember that he used that excuse in the first place. Our local sports journalists are lazy and timid.
Yes, this is the question that needs to be asked. He said himself part of his failure at Illinois was recruiting the wrong kids, failing to coach toughness, and coaching "not to lose". Does he feel this is happening with this team and if not what is different? This doesn't seem hard.
Curtis Kitchen should do this.
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http://cjonline.com/blog-post/kevin-haskin/2015-03-12/k-state-hoops-precarious-position
“Our chemistry was just off,’’ said point guard Jevon Thomas. “Off the court we needed to spend more time together, do more bonding..."
Shut up, Jevon Thomas. Go learn how to pass or shoot.
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I can't see this team under this coach establishing the toughness it takes to improve much. They are much better at home because the crowd can bring some of the intensity/energy but if they can't bring any fire themselves then they have a hard ceiling.
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http://cjonline.com/blog-post/kevin-haskin/2015-03-12/k-state-hoops-precarious-position
“Our chemistry was just off,’’ said point guard Jevon Thomas. “Off the court we needed to spend more time together, do more bonding..."
Shut up, Jevon Thomas. Go learn how to pass or shoot.
Yeah! Shut up, Jevon Thomas :shakesfist:
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I can't see this team under this coach establishing the toughness it takes to improve much. They are much better at home because the crowd can bring some of the intensity/energy but if they can't bring any fire themselves then they have a hard ceiling.
If we lose a couple early ones to shitty teams like we did last year, I have the feeling that our home court advantage won't be as pronounced as it has been.
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I enjoyed Nino trashing the FR/SOs for not buying in after his mutiny had a role in the current coach and roster.
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I enjoyed Nino trashing the FR/SOs for not buying in after his mutiny had a role in the current coach and roster.
I thought that Nino's role was not confirmed? He wasn't a Spradling, right?
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Could be worse, we could have the current Illini coach.
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Could be worse, we could have the current Illini coach.
:facepalm:
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do you guys think we would hire Groce if he and oscar got fired the same year?
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do you guys think we would hire Groce if he and oscar got fired the same year?
Depends. What does Gene think of him?
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That responsibility falls on Weber. Unlike previous seasons, when K-State’s roster has been limited on size and depth, Weber has more talent than he knows what to do with right now. Should he start Nigel Johnson or Jevon Thomas at point guard? Should he split Foster between point guard and shooting guard? Should he bring Edwards off the bench? Should he go small with Westicles, Williams and Gipson? Or should he go big with Brandon Bolden and Hurt?
Read more here: http://www.kansas.com/sports/college/big-12/kansas-state/article3618380.html#storylink=cpy
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That responsibility falls on Weber. Unlike previous seasons, when K-State’s roster has been limited on size and depth, Weber has more talent than he knows what to do with right now. Should he start Nigel Johnson or Jevon Thomas at point guard? Should he split Foster between point guard and shooting guard? Should he bring Edwards off the bench? Should he go small with Westicles, Williams and Gipson? Or should he go big with Brandon Bolden and Hurt?
Read more here: http://www.kansas.com/sports/college/big-12/kansas-state/article3618380.html#storylink=cpy
:lol:
:frown:
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hadn't really thought of that. too much talent, that's the problem.
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Man, we really do need to get a new emoticon of the sad guy mixed with the cry guy mixed with the lol guy. Could call it :bruceketball: or something.
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Man, we really do need to get a new emoticon of the sad guy mixed with the cry guy mixed with the lol guy. Could call it :bruceketball: or something.
:curse: This guy needs to make an appearance in this new emoticon.
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hadn't really thought of that. too much talent, that's the problem.
yes, tater, that went right over my head, too. :ROFL:
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Man, we really do need to get a new emoticon of the sad guy mixed with the cry guy mixed with the lol guy. Could call it :bruceketball: or something.
:curse: This guy needs to make an appearance in this new emoticon.
I no longer feel that guy
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Man, we really do need to get a new emoticon of the sad guy mixed with the cry guy mixed with the lol guy. Could call it :bruceketball: or something.
:curse: This guy needs to make an appearance in this new emoticon.
I no longer feel that guy
You're right :frown:
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I enjoyed Nino trashing the FR/SOs for not buying in after his mutiny had a role in the current coach and roster.
I thought that Nino's role was not confirmed? He wasn't a Spradling, right?
I'll confirm it, and yeah, it made his pity party last night pretty lol. I hope Jevon throws a bunch of ice cubes at him at the award ceremony.
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None of the players are going to make meaningful off season jumps so unless Claws is actually good we are going to be worse
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I think Wade will be good but we need, like, a lot more than that
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That responsibility falls on Weber. Unlike previous seasons, when K-State’s roster has been limited on size and depth, Weber has more talent than he knows what to do with right now. Should he start Nigel Johnson or Jevon Thomas at point guard? Should he split Foster between point guard and shooting guard? Should he bring Edwards off the bench? Should he go small with Westicles, Williams and Gipson? Or should he go big with Brandon Bolden and Hurt?
Read more here: http://www.kansas.com/sports/college/big-12/kansas-state/article3618380.html#storylink=cpy
:lol:
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“I will just get straight to the point,” said Edwards, when asked what fans could expect from him this season. “A lot of dunks. You will see a lot of dunks from me, a lot of exciting plays, lobs and dunks. I just think I am going to be a very exciting player with high energy. I like to score, so, yeah, of course I am OK with (the hype).”
Read more here: http://www.kansas.com/sports/college/big-12/kansas-state/article3618333.html#storylink=cpy
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“I call him Dirk the Hurt,” forward Brandon Bolden said. “Dirk Nowitzki is his favorite player, and he likes to shoot a lot. He can really shoot the ball. He can post, too. He has good moves, good footwork. He is not as athletic, so he relies more on his footwork and shooting the ball than most power forwards. But he can do it all.”
Read more here: http://www.kansas.com/sports/college/big-12/kansas-state/article3618279.html#storylink=cpy
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MOAR
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do you guys think we would hire Groce if he and oscar got fired the same year?
Groce's ceiling is the MAC
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My question is will this forum suck again? I know there is a direct correlation between how well the team does/doesn't do to how well this forum does but this season the posts for the most part were awful.
You're high. The worse our teams are, the better the bbs'ing
Um.. I think that was my point, nob. We weren't very good this year (record wise) and this forum was lame. Maybe we're all just getting old?
This board sucks really bad because you have 100 posters trying really hard to be like one poster who sucks at posting, so instead of one poster making shitty posts you have 100 guys making posts shittier than the one shitty poster.
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My question is will this forum suck again? I know there is a direct correlation between how well the team does/doesn't do to how well this forum does but this season the posts for the most part were awful.
You're high. The worse our teams are, the better the bbs'ing
Um.. I think that was my point, nob. We weren't very good this year (record wise) and this forum was lame. Maybe we're all just getting old?
This board sucks really bad because you have 100 posters trying really hard to be like one poster who sucks at posting, so instead of one poster making shitty posts you have 100 guys making posts shittier than the one shitty poster.
So, who we talking about here? :popcorn:
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My question is will this forum suck again? I know there is a direct correlation between how well the team does/doesn't do to how well this forum does but this season the posts for the most part were awful.
You're high. The worse our teams are, the better the bbs'ing
Um.. I think that was my point, nob. We weren't very good this year (record wise) and this forum was lame. Maybe we're all just getting old?
This board sucks really bad because you have 100 posters trying really hard to be like one poster who sucks at posting, so instead of one poster making shitty posts you have 100 guys making posts shittier than the one shitty poster.
No one posts like me.
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Margin of wining and losing seems to be overblown.
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“I call him Dirk the Hurt,” forward Brandon Bolden said. “Dirk Nowitzki is his favorite player, and he likes to shoot a lot. He can really shoot the ball. He can post, too. He has good moves, good footwork. He is not as athletic, so he relies more on his footwork and shooting the ball than most power forwards. But he can do it all.”
Read more here: http://www.kansas.com/sports/college/big-12/kansas-state/article3618279.html#storylink=cpy
Given that Hurt is the most out of shape Cat bball player I can remember watching in my 25 years of fandom, I'm really curious how he would have looked playing 40 lbs heavier, as reported in the article. I'd also really like to know his verticle if anyone can find it.
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:facepalm: :ROFL:
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“I call him Dirk the Hurt,” forward Brandon Bolden said. “Dirk Nowitzki is his favorite player, and he likes to shoot a lot. He can really shoot the ball. He can post, too. He has good moves, good footwork. He is not as athletic, so he relies more on his footwork and shooting the ball than most power forwards. But he can do it all.”
Read more here: http://www.kansas.com/sports/college/big-12/kansas-state/article3618279.html#storylink=cpy
Given that Hurt is the most out of shape Cat bball player I can remember watching in my 25 years of fandom, I'm really curious how he would have looked playing 40 lbs heavier, as reported in the article. I'd also really like to know his verticle if anyone can find it.
Hurt gained weight during the season. Bolden saying Hurt plays like a european big isn't far off, he just was't as effective as he could have been, if Jimmy Price was a quality individual.
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I like the play against TCU and the TCU guard drove the lane and Hurt gave a huge haymacker trying to block the shot and I swear his feet did not leave the floor..... :lol:
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Fitz (doesn't know anything) keeps hinting at coaching changes.
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Margin of wining and losing seems to be overblown.
i don't know why this comment is in this thread. but i know i disagree with the comment.
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Fitz (doesn't know anything) keeps hinting at coaching changes.
Lol assistant coaches aren't the issue JFC
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“I call him Dirk the Hurt,” forward Brandon Bolden said. “Dirk Nowitzki is his favorite player, and he likes to shoot a lot. He can really shoot the ball. He can post, too. He has good moves, good footwork. He is not as athletic, so he relies more on his footwork and shooting the ball than most power forwards. But he can do it all.”
Read more here: http://www.kansas.com/sports/college/big-12/kansas-state/article3618279.html#storylink=cpy
Given that Hurt is the most out of shape Cat bball player I can remember watching in my 25 years of fandom, I'm really curious how he would have looked playing 40 lbs heavier, as reported in the article. I'd also really like to know his verticle if anyone can find it.
Hurt gained weight during the season. Bolden saying Hurt plays like a european big isn't far off, he just was't as effective as he could have been, if Jimmy Price was a quality individual.
"European Big" = terrified of contact, no vertical, unwilling defender, out of shape, occasionally successful jump shooter, shitty rebounder (and don't get in my face with those per 100s _Fan, he SUCKS at rebounding).
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“I call him Dirk the Hurt,” forward Brandon Bolden said. “Dirk Nowitzki is his favorite player, and he likes to shoot a lot. He can really shoot the ball. He can post, too. He has good moves, good footwork. He is not as athletic, so he relies more on his footwork and shooting the ball than most power forwards. But he can do it all.”
Read more here: http://www.kansas.com/sports/college/big-12/kansas-state/article3618279.html#storylink=cpy
Given that Hurt is the most out of shape Cat bball player I can remember watching in my 25 years of fandom, I'm really curious how he would have looked playing 40 lbs heavier, as reported in the article. I'd also really like to know his verticle if anyone can find it.
Abdul Herrera
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“I call him Dirk the Hurt,” forward Brandon Bolden said. “Dirk Nowitzki is his favorite player, and he likes to shoot a lot. He can really shoot the ball. He can post, too. He has good moves, good footwork. He is not as athletic, so he relies more on his footwork and shooting the ball than most power forwards. But he can do it all.”
Read more here: http://www.kansas.com/sports/college/big-12/kansas-state/article3618279.html#storylink=cpy
Given that Hurt is the most out of shape Cat bball player I can remember watching in my 25 years of fandom, I'm really curious how he would have looked playing 40 lbs heavier, as reported in the article. I'd also really like to know his verticle if anyone can find it.
How is Hurt on the try hard chart?
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“I call him Dirk the Hurt,” forward Brandon Bolden said. “Dirk Nowitzki is his favorite player, and he likes to shoot a lot. He can really shoot the ball. He can post, too. He has good moves, good footwork. He is not as athletic, so he relies more on his footwork and shooting the ball than most power forwards. But he can do it all.”
Read more here: http://www.kansas.com/sports/college/big-12/kansas-state/article3618279.html#storylink=cpy
Given that Hurt is the most out of shape Cat bball player I can remember watching in my 25 years of fandom, I'm really curious how he would have looked playing 40 lbs heavier, as reported in the article. I'd also really like to know his verticle if anyone can find it.
Hurt gained weight during the season. Bolden saying Hurt plays like a european big isn't far off, he just was't as effective as he could have been, if Jimmy Price was a quality individual.
"European Big" = terrified of contact, no vertical, unwilling defender, out of shape, occasionally successful jump shooter, shitty rebounder (and don't get in my face with those per 100s _Fan, he SUCKS at rebounding).
That's not true.
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http://cjonline.com/blog-post/kevin-haskin/2015-03-12/k-state-hoops-precarious-position
“Our chemistry was just off,’’ said point guard Jevon Thomas. “Off the court we needed to spend more time together, do more bonding..."
Shut up, Jevon Thomas. Go learn how to pass or shoot.
Yeah! Shut up, Jevon Thomas :shakesfist:
Both of you shut up.
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I think Wade will be good but we need, like, a lot more than that
Claws would be a cool name for a good player
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I am a little more optimistic about next year with Wade and Brown coming in. We played 11 of the teams that made it to the tournament. While we lost some head scratchers, most of the losses were close. If we get better point guard play, more out of Hurt, and Foster working hard to get the taste of humble turd pie out of his mouth, we might win 20. The biggest concern IMO is coaching.
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i hope we suck ass again so oscar can get the eff out of here
Come on tater, have pity on us old K-State fans. We want to win NOW, not start over. What really sucks is filling out brackets with no team named Kansas State. Let's not repeat this next year.
With the possibility of 3 players coming in at 6'8" or better AND the return of 6'9" DJamer, I am once again optimistic. Also a new point guard @ 6'2". Man, we are going to have some trees down low. Yes, I know some trees are known as "ornamentals", a.k.a. Big Meat, but I can dream. If we return to seasons with more than 20 wins and NCAA bids, I could learn to live with oscar.
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i hope we suck ass again so oscar can get the eff out of here
Come on tater, have pity on us old K-State fans. We want to win NOW, not start over. What really sucks is filling out brackets with no team named Kansas State. Let's not repeat this next year.
With the possibility of 3 players coming in at 6'8" or better AND the return of 6'9" DJamer, I am once again optimistic. Also a new point guard @ 6'2". Man, we are going to have some trees down low. Yes, I know some trees are known as "ornamentals", a.k.a. Big Meat, but I can dream. If we return to seasons with more than 20 wins and NCAA bids, I could learn to live with oscar.
renocat, come kick this guys ass
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DJamer 6-9. LOL
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why are people so excited to get rid of gip and give his minutes to DJamer?
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why are people so excited to get rid of gip and give his minutes to DJamer?
I'm not going back to look who you are referring to but if anyone thinks DJamer is an improvement over gip they can GTFO
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I think the question is if he will be only someone to take up some minutes or if he is someone we can rely on decent production from.
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why are people so excited to get rid of gip and give his minutes to DJamer?
Who's excited to get rid of Gip? He was the hardest working man on this year's team, a true Wildcat. I didn't see anyone on the current roster with his low post skill. At 6'7"* he was amazing. Is DJamer getting his minutes, who said that?
*My guess is he's 6'7" but for his true height you would need a ruling from EMAWzafried. Looks like he is the tallness moderator on the board.
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i've just seen a lot of people talk about how excited they are to get DJamer back but then not say anything about how bad it's going to be that gip is leaving.
like-great news guys we get DJamer back.
then i want to be like well crappy news dork because we also lose gip.
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Its fine if you're excited for next year, but listing how tall a player is is probably the dumbest reason.
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HEY CF3! YOU EXCITED FOR NEXT YEAR???
HECK YES I AM! WE HAVE A 6' 10" GUY COMING IN! HIS NAME IS TYLER HUGHES!!!!!!
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Jason Bennett !
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Jason Bennett !
Have we had a productive player over 6' 9" outside of JO? I can't think of one.
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Its fine if you're excited for next year, but listing how tall a player is is probably the dumbest reason.
I must admit you certainly are brilliant. Okay, let's only recruit short people. WTF? We have lacked inside presence for 2 years, except for Gipson, now he's gone. I have no idea if these guys are any good, but it appears someone is trying to do something about this need. Wow, you read way too much into my comments. What insight, not, dpst
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Define productive
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Jason Bennett !
Have we had a productive player over 6' 9" outside of JO? I can't think of one.
how tall was curtis kelly? hes the only guy i can think of.
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Jason Bennett !
:nono: (ftp://:nono:)
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freddy asprilla sniffed something close to what I would consider productive.
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freddy asprilla sniffed something close to what I would consider productive.
You have a bad sense of smell, or freddy does, or who ever does that would make the idea of freddy being productive sound reasonable.
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I mean he averaged 5 and 5 and started 13 games for a team that was top 25 and made the tournament.
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Define productive
I dunno. Not sucky like Hughes/Bennett/Asprira
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I mean he averaged 5 and 5 and started 13 games for a team that was top 25 and made the tournament.
Returning starters also make everyone better around them better upon their reinsertion per noted dossiehawk, Mr. P. Clams. So that's a factor many of you hoopheads aren't taking into account. He is very much a rising tide that's going to lift some catboats come fall.
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freddy asprilla sniffed something close to what I would consider productive.
Very Fred McCoy-ish.
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I mean he averaged 5 and 5 and started 13 games for a team that was top 25 and made the tournament.
Returning starters also make everyone better around them better upon their reinsertion per noted dossiehawk, Mr. P. Clams. So that's a factor many of you hoopheads aren't taking into account. He is very much a rising tide that's going to lift some catboats come fall.
I was talking about freddy aspirilla dumbass
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I mean he averaged 5 and 5 and started 13 games for a team that was top 25 and made the tournament.
Returning starters also make everyone better around them better upon their reinsertion per noted dossiehawk, Mr. P. Clams. So that's a factor many of you hoopheads aren't taking into account. He is very much a rising tide that's going to lift some catboats come fall.
I was talking about freddy aspirilla dumbass
I was talking about DJamer you wet piece of crap.
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i'm ok admitting to myself that Gipson had a shitshow of a senior year and this team could be better next season with DJamer
my dossier backs up my hoops forecast
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DJamer 6-9. LOL
Unless he while he was hurt 6'9" might be the biggest height lie in basketball history.
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Jason Bennett !
Have we had a productive player over 6' 9" outside of JO? I can't think of one.
The Beasley guy was decent. :gocho:
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WE HAVE A 6' 10" GUY COMING IN! HIS NAME IS TYLER HUGHES!!!!!!
:ROFL:
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Jason Bennett !
Have we had a productive player over 6' 9" outside of JO? I can't think of one.
Colon wasn't bad. And as _FAN said, Beas
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https://twitter.com/jlkurtz/status/578336807194005504
https://twitter.com/jlkurtz/status/578337180319244288
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https://twitter.com/jlkurtz/status/578336807194005504
https://twitter.com/jlkurtz/status/578337180319244288
Wow!!!!!
By my count we are already 1 over the scholarship limit. If I am interpreting oscar correctly, I believe he is saying that there will likely be 3 players leaving other than Nino and Big Gip.
KSU_Fan can you be the voice of reason and correct me if I am wrong?
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https://twitter.com/jlkurtz/status/578336807194005504
https://twitter.com/jlkurtz/status/578337180319244288
The tweet imbedding is great but sometimes :shakesfist: :curse:
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oh by the way guys, old spice will be good and healthy for next season too
wink wink wink!
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Beasley was listed at 6'8" for the draft fellas
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Beasley was listed at 6'8" for the draft fellas
Uhm, 6-10 was the official listing on K-State's roster. (Which is what counts)
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Like, Dave Dreiling NEVER said "a 6-8 forward, from Washington, DC... Michael Beeeeeeasley!". It was ALWAYS 6-10. Always.
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Since it's widely known and universally accepted that all players heights are overstated, is it really worth pointing out????
OF COURSE NOT, SO STFU
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What's the real sugar dick like? Is he as grumpy as the fake one?
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"Corn Syrup Dick" would be a good alias if wanted to check into a hotel incognito.
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Central Kansas starts at Junction and goes to Russell. North central stats at Salina. In pioneer days, in eastern KS you could find leaves to use after a wild land crap, central KS you used grass, out west you used tumbleweeds or cocklebur bushes. This is why they are so tough.
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Central Kansas starts at Junction and goes to Russell. North central stats at Salina. In pioneer days, in eastern KS you could find leaves to use after a wild land crap, central KS you used grass, out west you used tumbleweeds or cocklebur bushes. This is why they are so tough.
:lol:
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https://twitter.com/jlkurtz/status/578336807194005504
https://twitter.com/jlkurtz/status/578337180319244288
I heard on twitter that Weber said this was because they weren't confident in DJamer's and Bolden's return from injury.
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https://twitter.com/jlkurtz/status/578336807194005504
https://twitter.com/jlkurtz/status/578337180319244288
I heard on twitter that Weber said this was because they weren't confident in DJamer's and Bolden's return from injury.
Career ending broken arm? :confused:
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https://twitter.com/jlkurtz/status/578336807194005504
https://twitter.com/jlkurtz/status/578337180319244288
I heard on twitter that Weber said this was because they weren't confident in DJamer's and Bolden's return from injury.
Career ending broken arm? :confused:
In today's medical age, broken limbs are weird. Right about knee/ankle level. Also eye hernias.
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https://twitter.com/scottybscout/status/580430280940457985
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Check that.
https://twitter.com/GoodmanESPN/status/580429660321935360
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I told you guys! They knew something was in his drink. :shakesfist:
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Tre should go somewhere he's appreciated.
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https://twitter.com/brettregan/status/580430780238815232
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Well that's bittersweet
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:lol: at brett
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:lol: at brett
how is he gonna back track that tweet to say they've been sitting on that info for awhile now?
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Oh man
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So I am going to assume that a immediately eliiagaible point guard transfer is our top priority.
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They're going to lock up brett over at GPC without any phone privileges. :lol:
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JMO, but losing Harris is bad.
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Nothing surprising here
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Not surprising, but tough to lose a guy that can shoot so well.
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Not surprising, but tough to lose a guy that can shoot so well.
especially on a team with only one shooter. But oscar was too stupid to play him anyway, so whatever.
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So I am going to assume that a immediately eliiagaible point guard transfer is our top priority.
besides spell check, yes.
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HEY DO YOU GUYS WANT AN INSIDER DETAIL THESE GUYS WERE KICKED OFF THE TEAM BUT THEY'RE CALLING IT A TRANSFER
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JMO, but losing Harris is bad.
yeah we probably don't make the final four next year now
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JMO, but losing Harris is bad.
yeah we probably don't make the final four next year now
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I liked Harris' shooting, but he really seemed to do nothing else really well. I don't see him as a huge loss honestly.
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JMO, but losing Harris is bad.
yeah we probably don't make the final four next year now
:thumbs:
I liked Harris' shooting, but he really seemed to do nothing else really well. I don't see him as a huge loss honestly.
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well, I mean, what's a more important basketball skill than shooting?
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well, I mean, what's a more important basketball skill than shooting?
Getting open to shoot? :dunno:
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well, I mean, what's a more important basketball skill than shooting?
In oscar's mind?
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so when does the Foster news leak?
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:lol: at brett
how is he gonna back track that tweet to say they've been sitting on that info for awhile now?
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https://twitter.com/J_thomas5/status/580441500682731520
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it's. like, yeah...these guys stunk. but oscar can't recruit for crap so the next guys are going to stink probably too. what a terrible thing we pay attention to (ksu basketball).
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I'm going to remain optimistic, because by god, it's the only thing I have left in this world.
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tre was a good sized freshman with the nicest looking shot i've ever seen. with some proper coaching and weightlifting who knows what he could've been in three years. chris babb? :peek:
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Thinking about becoming a WSU basketball/K-State football combofan. MY TEAM IS IN THE SWEET 16! YES!
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tre was a good sized freshman with the nicest looking shot i've ever seen. with some proper coaching and weightlifting who knows what he could've been in three years. chris babb? :peek:
:D
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tre was a good sized freshman with the nicest looking shot i've ever seen. with some proper coaching and weightlifting who knows what he could've been in three years. chris babb? :peek:
If he ends up at Bradley, I am going to write a very sternly worded letter.
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1.5 years*
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I wonder if oscar is just now finding out via Twitter.
Also, Brett should have followed with ",if true".
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I wonder if oscar is just now finding out via Twitter.
Also, Brett should have followed with ",if true".
he won't find out until game 3 of next year
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So I am going to assume that a immediately eliiagaible point guard transfer is our top priority.
this has been the case for about 6 months now
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I bet these aren't the only players that transfer.
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Bolden. :crossfingers:
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Bolden. :crossfingers:
I bet two players out of a pool of DJamer, Bolden, Nigel, Wes, and Marcus are gone next year. I don't think DJamer will transfer, but I do think his health may prohibit him from playing basketball anymore.
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oscar is matching or maybe even out pacing Frank's Franking, with all of these Brucing's.
How's that Traject-O-Meter looking now John Currie?
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oscar is matching or maybe even out pacing Frank's Franking, with all of these Brucing's.
How's that Traject-O-Meter looking now John Currie?
About as good as Jeff Mitie's record
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Brucing
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Nothing wrong with two transfers in a year. So I guess wait and see.
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https://twitter.com/J_thomas5/status/580441500682731520
trolling the tucks. well played, Jevon
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and guys, do NOT expect the media entity residing in Manhattan that's sole purpose for existence is to cover K-State athletics to break every news story. Unreachable standard.
I remember 10 years ago when they did pretty much break every story. Good beat writers like JMart and social media changed things a lot, but Fitz and co. just don't seem to go after it like they used to. Part of it was probably losing some relationships with sources as well.
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Bolden. :crossfingers:
I bet two players out of a pool of DJamer, Bolden, Nigel, Wes, and Marcus are gone next year. I don't think DJamer will transfer, but I do think his health may prohibit him from playing basketball anymore.
Based on what? And don't you dare say your gut!
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and guys, do NOT expect the media entity residing in Manhattan that's sole purpose for existence is to cover K-State athletics to break every news story. Unreachable standard.
I remember 10 years ago when they did pretty much break every story. Good beat writers like JMart and social media changed things a lot, but Fitz and co. just don't seem to go after it like they used to. Part of it was probably losing some relationships with sources as well.
I don't think they gain much from working to get breaking news, either. It's basically impossible to beat Goodman on basketball related news, and no news comes from the football program ever. People go to their site for their KSU centric perspective, not scoops
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and guys, do NOT expect the media entity residing in Manhattan that's sole purpose for existence is to cover K-State athletics to break every news story. Unreachable standard.
I remember 10 years ago when they did pretty much break every story. Good beat writers like JMart and social media changed things a lot, but Fitz and co. just don't seem to go after it like they used to. Part of it was probably losing some relationships with sources as well.
That, and I've heard guys like Janssen could basically waltz into the coaches' offices and practice any time they wanted to. I'm guessing players were pretty much open season as well.
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Yeah or they, you know, were asked to sit on it.
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I have confirmed that both sophomore Jevon Thomas and freshman Tre Harris are leaving the Kansas State program. This is it for right this moment, but there might be more news to be had because more decisions might need to be made. Stay tuned. You'll be the first to know if something else goes down.
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Probably not. More likely Jeff Goodman's Twitter followers will be the first to know.
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I'm sorry if you expect GoPowercat to be the first to break every bit of information in this era of Twitter, but we will not be able to uphold that standard.
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Originally posted by Go Man Go:
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Originally posted by BrettGPC:
I have confirmed that both sophomore Jevon Thomas and freshman Tre Harris are leaving the Kansas State program. This is it for right this moment, but there might be more news to be had because more decisions might need to be made. Stay tuned. You'll be the first to know if something else goes down.
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Probably not. More likely Jeff Goodman's Twitter followers will be the first to know.
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I'm sorry if you expect GoPowercat to be the first to break every bit of information in this era of Twitter, but we will not be able to uphold that standard.
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They do uphold the standard of 18 hour days tho
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they did use to have good insidery stuff in their "Wabash Cannonballs" but that day is gone
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Reply from Fitz
I'm sorry if you expect GoPowercat to be the first to break every bit of information in this era of Twitter, but we will not be able to uphold that standard.
Classic.
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oscar is matching or maybe even out pacing Frank's Franking, with all of these Brucing's.
How's that Traject-O-Meter looking now John Currie?
About as good as Jeff Mitie's record
The "Frank runs off too many players" talking point was always bullshit.
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Frank generally replaced his frankings with more talent. Running players and replacing them with worse players isnt a good long term strategy.
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:impatient:
tre was a good sized freshman with the nicest looking shot i've ever seen. with some proper coaching and weightlifting who knows what he could've been in three years. chris babb? :peek:
:D
Proper coaching and weightlifting. Like that was going to happen in the era of oscar.
Harris was not that good guys. Not a big loss.
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i like that he credits the scoop to "twitter" rather than the reporter that tweeted it.
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Two gone and how many more? Good luck Jevon and Tre.
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i like that he credits the scoop to "twitter" rather than the reporter that tweeted it.
this is my favorite part as well. as if Goodman was just some guy walking on the street that bumped into Tre and Jevon in the parking lot..."hey, what's up guys? what? really? I can't believe that...hello twitter..."
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eff this
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:frown:
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Welp
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Uhhhh, did I miss the Foster news earlier today with Tre and Jevon?
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I'M SO SURPRISED!
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Enjoy him, SMU! :frown:
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Bye Marcus. eff you oscar!!!!
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I'M SO SURPRISED!
I figured Foster would bounce on his own....which maybe what happened.
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https://twitter.com/kstatesports/status/580545508432850944
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This explains the feelers to Bradley.
May the bridges you burn light your way home oscar.
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https://twitter.com/kstatesports/status/580545508432850944
Ya that was weird
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this isn't for getting lit on the beach is it? cause Tre Harris seems like a weird dismissal
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We are going to be historically bad next season. Is there any reason for Wes to even stick around?
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thousands of assholes are still going to buy season tickets to fund his failure.
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eff those ppl. I hate this
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6 new players.
Enjoy jetlagged boys, because that's the last enjoyable excuse we'll get out of oscar for at least another year and a half.
Which should be reason enough to give him the boot.
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maybe oscar will transfer
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#burntdown
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so when does the Foster news leak?
bout 8:30 i guess. someone told me but i legit thought they were rough ridin' with me :frown:
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Foster being "dismissed" bought oscar two more years. "Doing things right" and all of that.
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We're going to get predicted to finish below TCU :frown:
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The Foster dismissal is still shocking. The fact that Tre is dismissed and Jevon is given an attaboy on the way out considering Tre had never been suspended and Jevon had was weird.
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we are going to be the new TCU. :cry: :cry:
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i guess if you dismiss them, it doesn't look as bad for oscar as if they leave on their own. like, some people will think they were booted for an actual real and bad reason or something? that's all i got. lol at all of this and the position kstate chose to put themselves into with this dumbfuck head coach.
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more like Evansville or Illinois State
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oscar would be the type to say "you can't quit because you're motherfucking fired".
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What a mess.
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We are going to be historically bad! Like no conference wins for the next two years bad! Look at what we have coming back! DJs foot has had 9 surgeries, he's likely gone, Boldens arm looked like it was made of jello, unlikely to be back. Without this we were effed to suck age, but now we might as well just go UAB football in the program, then start over and reignite it in a few years. Would be less painful...
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We are going to be absolutely god rough ridin' awful for the next 3-4 at the least. I rough ridin' hate oscar Weber so much.
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The Foster dismissal is still shocking. The fact that Tre is dismissed and Jevon is given an attaboy on the way out considering Tre had never been suspended and Jevon had was weird.
Maybe he thought he was getting rid of Malek Harris...
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The Foster dismissal is still shocking. The fact that Tre is dismissed and Jevon is given an attaboy on the way out considering Tre had never been suspended and Jevon had was weird.
oscar and currie are trying to do the right thing. this way, those two are eligible immediately b/c of being run off. boss move.
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:runaway: MASS EXODUS :runaway:
What loser retread will come in and save our program from only having 5 scholarship players next season?
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God damn you, Whataburger! :shakesfist:
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:runaway: MASS EXODUS :runaway:
What loser retread will come in and save our program from only having 5 scholarship players next season?
rick ray
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It's necessary to remember in times like these that K-State sports are the least important thing in all of our lives.
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God damn you, Whataburger! :shakesfist:
wow, uncalled for
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It's necessary to remember in times like these that K-State sports are the least important thing in all of our lives.
Well basketball has certainly dropped down to the least important thing in my life.
:shakesfist: @#CustardFace
:shakesfist: @#John Benedict Arnold Currie
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It's necessary to remember in times like these that K-State sports are the least important thing in all of our lives.
been telling myself this for the entire basketball season
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Someone post gems from the scout board I can read tomorrow. I bet pdave and learnin have jethitting boners right now
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:runaway: MASS EXODUS :runaway:
What loser retread will come in and save our program from only having 5 scholarship players next season?
rick ray
:crossfingers: we know he can clean up a program, this one needs it with players getting lit and such
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God damn you, Whataburger! :shakesfist:
wow, uncalled for
Go to the Facebook/twitter thread where everyone jumped my crap (not saying that's the reason ftr).
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we are going to be the new TCU Missouri . :cry: :cry:
FYP
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Next year? A big pile of purple horseshit unless Weber can get some more recruits like Barry and Wade. Get rid of Lowery and get an assistance with winning DNA instead of a MVC failure. I hope we don't decline lower. I feel like we have been pushed into a pit of lions with meat tied on us - we might get out, but I am not sure as these KSU coaches would tie weights to our shoes. I hope oscar didn't rupture a family jewel brucing the hell out of Marcus' Willie hole.
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wow, KSU twitter is so depressing. Tons of folks PRAISING oscar for doing this. Good God
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Are we sure our commits have actually signed?
Right now a Robert Upshaw situation wouldn't be shocking.
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The Foster dismissal is still shocking. The fact that Tre is dismissed and Jevon is given an attaboy on the way out considering Tre had never been suspended and Jevon had was weird.
oscar and currie are trying to do the right thing. this way, those two are eligible immediately b/c of being run off. boss move.
Is this true?
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my god, the BBS'ing next season :love:
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The Foster dismissal is still shocking. The fact that Tre is dismissed and Jevon is given an attaboy on the way out considering Tre had never been suspended and Jevon had was weird.
oscar and currie are trying to do the right thing. this way, those two are eligible immediately b/c of being run off. boss move.
Is this true?
could be, it depends on how the NCAA interprets the dismissal
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Next year? A big pile of purple horseshit unless Weber can get some more recruits like Barry and Wade. Get rid of Lowery and get an assistance with winning DNA instead of a MVC failure. I hope we don't decline lower. I feel like we have been pushed into a pit of lions with meat tied on us - we might get out, but I am not sure as these KSU coaches would tie weights to our shoes. I hope oscar didn't rupture a family jewel brucing the hell out of Marcus' Willie hole.
yeah, more three stars from outside hutchinson will help
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the part about currie and oscar IS NOT TRUE though
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Four of oscar's own recruits gone in the course of one season.
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Four of oscar's own recruits gone in the course of one season.
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Four of oscar's own recruits gone in the course of one season.
Tre and Jack were products of earlier recruiting misses. Having them on or off the roster doesn't matter because the failure already occurred.
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oscar is making this board his bitch by burning it down better than we ever could
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#playerexodus
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the part about currie and oscar IS NOT TRUE though
:lol:
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Jevon just liked my tweet that said:
"So our coach used @swagg2_ all the way up till the end and then he was kicked off? Something's not adding up here. #Kstate"
:Wha:
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Four of oscar's own recruits gone in the course of one season.
Has he lost 5 of his 9 high school recruits so far? I saw that on twitter.
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Krap and orris. Marcus, tre, jevon .
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Four of oscar's own recruits gone in the course of one season.
Has he lost 5 of his 9 high school recruits so far? I saw that on twitter.
With Orris, that sounds right.
DJamer, Wes, Nigel, and Malek still left.
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Just another 18 hour day, yaknow?
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"(oscar Weber) has been unable to live up to the standards that we expect of our (coach),” said (every K-State fan ever). “It is a privilege to represent Kansas State University and there are consequences when (coaches) don’t live up to those expectations."
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I think the "good" news here is that we won't have the tenure extending rebound season.
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Just another 18 hour day, yaknow?
:lol:
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Jevon just liked my tweet that said:
"So our coach used @swagg2_ all the way up till the end and then he was kicked off? Something's not adding up here. #Kstate"
:Wha:
Good work, WC. :thumbs:
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oscar would be the type to say "you can't quit because you're motherfucking fired".
:thumbs:
That's basically what the "dismissals" were. pretty petty. new depths, new lows
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I think the "good" news here is that we won't have the tenure extending rebound season.
Just delayed it a year. :frown:
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Who is orris?
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It's not surprising at all that Foster is gone. The fact that he was dismissed makes me want to punch oscar in the face, though.
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I think the "good" news here is that we won't have the tenure extending rebound season.
Just delayed it a year. :frown:
That opening round NIT loss to La Salle in 16-17 will be that much more painful.
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Here's some advice. Quit looking at Twitter. In face, dump all social media. :thumbsup:
:D
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As worthless as all those players were this season, I'm not sure I understand the need to fear winless seasons and tcu caliber futility. I'd be more concerned about the unknown, the quality of oscar's next batch of cruits
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wow, KSU twitter is so depressing. Tons of folks PRAISING oscar for doing this. Good God
I don't like K-State fans by and large
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Top Returning Scorers:
Edwards 6.3 ppg
Westicles 5.8 ppg
Nigel 5.2 ppg
Hurt 4.2
Malek 2.1
Good for almost 24 ppg! :)
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wow, KSU twitter is so depressing. Tons of folks PRAISING oscar for doing this. Good God
I don't like K-State fans by and large
Oh I rough ridin' hate 65% of our fans
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This is so much fun :excited:
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This is so much fun :excited:
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my god, the BBS'ing next season :love:
Yeah, it will be fun.
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where the eff are tobias and spracne atm
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#bruce2020
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Our program is so spazzy and weird now. Just like oscar.
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You know there is no hope right? KSU hoops is clinically dead. I mean ku football is in much better shape.
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Ftr, it hasn't had much change from frank and company (aka his assistants), just shittier players leaving. :dunno: Wally, Sutton, & change... Good, but not great. Next year is the bottom tho!
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You know there is no hope right? KSU hoops is clinically dead. I mean ku football is in much better shape.
Really hoping EMAW schedules Texas State next season so I can go back to Manhattan and openly boo oscar on every play
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Ftr, it hasn't had much change from frank and company (aka his assistants), just shittier players leaving. :dunno: Wally, Sutton, & change... Good, but not great. Next year is the bottom tho!
eff, I just forgot I started the foster thread. :buh-bye:
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You know there is no hope right? KSU hoops is clinically dead. I mean ku football is in much better shape.
Paging Dr. Brad Underwood. Stat.
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Very depressing, but when you decide to use the needle you found in the trash can behind Applebee's you shouldn't be to shocked when you get hepatitis.
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Very depressing, but when you decide to use the needle you found in the trash can behind Applebee's you shouldn't be to shocked when you get hepatitis.
:lol:
:cry:
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Very depressing, but when you decide to use the needle you found in the trash can behind Applebee's you shouldn't be to shocked when you get hepatitis.
:lol:
:cry:
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Oh hey that guy who is vomiting blood just threw away a perfectly good half eaten piece of pizza! I bet if I ate it, I would be fine!
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You know there is no hope right? KSU hoops is clinically dead. I mean ku football is in much better shape.
Paging Dr. Brad Underwood. Stat.
Who would he bring?........ That he recruited (big talking point on this blog)?
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It's going to be a daxian Hoosiers wet dream next season.
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By the time oscar finally gets crap canned I will care so little about this program that I'll find out the next day from the KU fan at work.
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The salt in the wound will be when it's announced that season ticket prices will increase for next season.
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that rough ridin' lizard snitched
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The Foster dismissal is still shocking. The fact that Tre is dismissed and Jevon is given an attaboy on the way out considering Tre had never been suspended and Jevon had was weird.
oscar and currie are trying to do the right thing. this way, those two are eligible immediately b/c of being run off. boss move.
Is this true?
could be, it depends on how the NCAA interprets the dismissal
They just eliminated that rule, no immediate eligibility. Thank Mizzou and OU.
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We haven't been this doomed since Angel left.
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The Foster dismissal is still shocking. The fact that Tre is dismissed and Jevon is given an attaboy on the way out considering Tre had never been suspended and Jevon had was weird.
oscar and currie are trying to do the right thing. this way, those two are eligible immediately b/c of being run off. boss move.
Is this true?
could be, it depends on how the NCAA interprets the dismissal
They just eliminated that rule, no immediate eligibility. Thank Mizzou and OU.
If true, do you think oscar told them that? As an aside, do you think he told them face-to-face that he was kicking them out?
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The Foster dismissal is still shocking. The fact that Tre is dismissed and Jevon is given an attaboy on the way out considering Tre had never been suspended and Jevon had was weird.
In my mind's eye, oscar dismissed jevon too but they had to change it to a transfer so that jevon would release oscar's neck.
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This is a pretty solid, yet very controlled meltdown. I bet social media is a hoot. Could some of you who spend your lives with your faces buried in your phones provide some highlights?
Thanks and have a great night.
I loved your @sonofdaxjones social media account. :frown:
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Over/under on how long it takes for the "oscar and John found out Marcus was taking money. This was them being strong leaders making the tough decisions in the best interest of KSU" excuse to start?
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Ftr, it hasn't had much change from frank and company (aka his assistants), just shittier players leaving. :dunno: Wally, Sutton, & change... Good, but not great. Next year is the bottom tho!
eff, I just forgot I started the foster thread. :buh-bye:
Don't feel bad, Pullen and Foster had more in common than you realized
Neither one will play for oscar Weber.
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you know what? GOOD
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CycloneFanatics is clowning on us pretty hard :frown:
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CycloneFanatics is clowning on us pretty hard :frown:
They should be.
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CycloneFanatics is clowning on us pretty hard :frown:
They should be.
i know :frown:
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I would like to pin this thread and bring it up next year. There will be some guys with tiny brains and lots of hate eating some crow and I for one would like to remind them of all the hate they spewed at this time. This is the exact kind of tripe that was spewed on the goEMAW site when Bill was hired back. Weber is doing the only thing he could possibly do as a head coach. He has to get rid of the cancer if he wants to move forward. His team will be all in next year and will be much better than this year. If you haters hold Gip and Nino up as true K-Staters and honest men then why won't you listen to what they are saying. They have told you in so many words what the problem was this year and you aren't listening. Marcus and Tre broke team rules. What else needs to be said. The people that work for me would have been treated the same way had they broke rules at work. Get your minds right boys and support your team and school.
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there were a lot of idiots on goEMAW in bill's first couple years but the situations and results were in no way similar.
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you know what? GOOD
Yeah. eff this. EMAW fans are absolutely going to deserve what they'll get.
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there were a lot of idiots on goEMAW in bill's first couple years but the situations and results were in no way similar.
Why were people idiots for thinking a 70 year old man who had been out of football for 3 years coaching a major college program was a bad idea? Not to mention how his first tenure ended. You're kind of playing the result here.
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there were a lot of idiots on goEMAW in bill's first couple years but the situations and results were in no way similar.
Why were people idiots for thinking a 70 year old man who had been out of football for 3 years coaching a major college program was a bad idea? Not to mention how his first tenure ended. You're kind of playing the result here.
Hiring Patterson would have been better for the program, imo.
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there were a lot of idiots on goEMAW in bill's first couple years but the situations and results were in no way similar.
Why were people idiots for thinking a 70 year old man who had been out of football for 3 years coaching a major college program was a bad idea? Not to mention how his first tenure ended. You're kind of playing the result here.
i don't even care if he is playing the result here. most people were made because it kind of seemed like a snyder instead of patterson thing and right now, i'm not sure anyone can say which call would've been the right one.
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there were a lot of idiots on goEMAW in bill's first couple years but the situations and results were in no way similar.
Why were people idiots for thinking a 70 year old man who had been out of football for 3 years coaching a major college program was a bad idea? Not to mention how his first tenure ended. You're kind of playing the result here.
i don't even care if he is playing the result here. most people were made because it kind of seemed like a snyder instead of patterson thing and i'm right now, i'm not sure anyone can say which call would've been the right one.
I'll say that's fair because I wanted neither of them.
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there were a lot of idiots on goEMAW in bill's first couple years but the situations and results were in no way similar.
Why were people idiots for thinking a 70 year old man who had been out of football for 3 years coaching a major college program was a bad idea? Not to mention how his first tenure ended. You're kind of playing the result here.
i don't even care if he is playing the result here. most people were made because it kind of seemed like a snyder instead of patterson thing and i'm right now, i'm not sure anyone can say which call would've been the right one.
I'll say that's fair because I wanted neither of them.
i wanted g pat pretty hard. hated the snyder hire. snyder has worked out way better than i would've thought. he's (sean and dana)going to run it into the ground again though i think.
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John Currie and oscar Weber are petty men.
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i was fine with people being skeptical, but he took over a complete dumpster fire and showed constant improvement up until 2013 when we regressed. the whole burn-it-down, "fire snyder" crowd just really annoyed me in '09 and '10 when the team, in my opinion, was steadily getting better and had reason for optimism in the upcoming seasons.
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i like that he credits the scoop to "twitter" rather than the reporter that tweeted it.
this is my favorite part as well. as if Goodman was just some guy walking on the street that bumped into Tre and Jevon in the parking lot..."hey, what's up guys? what? really? I can't believe that...hello twitter..."
Fitz: We should say that Jeff Goodaman - who is he with now? ESPN? - he's so awkward on the set, doesn't he always look like he just left the dentist? Ah, he's reporting through sources which would probably mean the K-State coaches because who else would know, um, that 2 players are leaving the program.
Ray-Gun: For sure, Jevon Thomas; I've confirmed that. Tre Harris, I'm still working on that as of Tuesday afternoon.
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Starting 5 and next off bench next year:
1) Nigel Johnson, Deathbite
2) Hopper , The Flush??
3) Wesley ThatOneDude, Claws?
4) Malek Harris, Claws?
5) DJamer, Hurt, Bolden
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it's not impossible that we could be competitive. but who rough ridin' cares.
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it's not impossible that we could be competitive. but who rough ridin' cares.
exactly
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All of our bigs suck (Not DJamer, but he might be permanently done). We're screwed at that position.
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this place used to be so much fun
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this place used to be so much fun
so did the OOD. (fOOD)
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DJamer has really become a formidable player in his injury season.
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it's not impossible that we could be competitive. but who rough ridin' cares.
exactly
I can't not care.
this place used to be so much fun
so did the OOD. (fOOD)
Honestly, the OOD was fine this year in the Big 12. Texas Southern, Georgia, and 1 road win were the tough part.
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DJamer has really become a formidable player in his injury season.
yeah. the myth of DJamer the dominate big has been my favorite thing to listen to over the past couple of months. he's a regular johnny kaw/johnny applesee/paul bunyon.
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it's not impossible that we could be competitive. but who rough ridin' cares.
exactly
I can't not care.
yeah me either. i guess when i say "who cares" i mean more that to me there isn't that much difference between a "non-competitive" 8-22 and "competitive" 15-15.
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There's a huge difference in the "does oscar get fired?" sweepstakes.
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There's a huge difference in the "does oscar get fired?" sweepstakes.
true, but i'll never root for a k-state team to suck. just don't have it in me.
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No way in hell oscar gets fired next year, no matter how the team does. They can 0-fer in conference play and oscar will be back.
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There's a huge difference in the "does oscar get fired?" sweepstakes.
true, but i'll never root for a k-state team to suck. just don't have it in me.
Me too.
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There's a huge difference in the "does oscar get fired?" sweepstakes.
true, but i'll never root for a k-state team to suck. just don't have it in me.
I wasn't suggesting that you should. I'm just saying that there are different levels of bad, and it will take a special level for oscar to be fired next year. Also, it's definitely a possibility that he gets fired next year, regardless of Chingon's incredible meltdown. Quite a few more tucks turned on oscar after this year than I thought possible. He bought himself a little leeway with them by kicking Foster off the team (which was most likely a decision by JC, but I'm sure oscar will take credit for it if he can get some goodwill out of the deal), but even most tucks don't want to go back to the Wooly days.
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There's a huge difference in the "does oscar get fired?" sweepstakes.
true, but i'll never root for a k-state team to suck. just don't have it in me.
im the same but next year is going to push the limits on that. its like a great grandmother on her death bed, do i want her to die? no way in hell. but of course i dont want her to be in pain anymore either. we are in a lose/lose situation here boys and i dont want to watch it happen
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No way in hell oscar gets fired next year, no matter how the team does. They can 0-fer in conference play and oscar will be back.
Yep
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No way in hell oscar gets fired next year, no matter how the team does. They can 0-fer in conference play and oscar will be back.
Yep
I mean what do you expect with the egos he had that refused to work hard. At least he'll have the right type of attitude next year.
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Evidently oscar is off photographing Pussy Riot a day after brucing the team.
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ftapatalk.imageshack.com%2Fv2%2F15%2F03%2F25%2F0eff832f9e3ddd1ec803ef41f07c498b.jpg&hash=e3d10355a7bcd65cd2f401f00d8d62f75f45fbb1)
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So, that's where oscar goes when he "recruits." I feel lied to :frown:
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No way in hell oscar gets fired next year, no matter how the team does. They can 0-fer in conference play and oscar will be back.
Yep
I mean what do you expect with the egos he had that refused to work hard. At least he'll have the right type of attitude next year.
Yup, I mean oscar hasn't really had a bad year yet.
Year 1: Won the conference (Great Year)
Year 2: Betrayed by Angel, had to overcome losing pg, but still gutted it out and ended up in the top half of the conference (Great Year [considering the circumstances])
Year 3: Betrayed by Foster and his terrible attitude which lead to team mutiny of sorts (mulligan, not his fault)
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2 great years and a pass, who would fire a coach after that?
Year 4: oscar cleans house, fills roster with "right fits" and while not as many W's materialize as wanted the team is playing the right way
year 5: The team catches some good breaks and makes the NIT (improvement!)
Year 6: Just plain bad luck guys, key transfer or injury derails what would have surely been an NCAA tournament appearance (mulligan)
Year 7: Everything lines up just right and we snag a 12 seed, but get bounced in the first round (extension)
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No way in hell oscar gets fired next year, no matter how the team does. They can 0-fer in conference play and oscar will be back.
Yep
I mean what do you expect with the egos he had that refused to work hard. At least he'll have the right type of attitude next year.
oscar needs some time to lay the foundation. you don't build this thing correctly by taking shortcuts.
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Ftr, it hasn't had much change from frank and company (aka his assistants), just shittier players leaving. :dunno: Wally, Sutton, & change... Good, but not great. Next year is the bottom tho!
eff, I just forgot I started the foster thread. :buh-bye:
Don't feel bad, Pullen and Foster had more in common than you realized
Neither one will play for oscar Weber.
Lawl
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No way in hell oscar gets fired next year, no matter how the team does. They can 0-fer in conference play and oscar will be back.
Yep
I mean what do you expect with the egos he had that refused to work hard. At least he'll have the right type of attitude next year.
oscar needs some time to lay the foundation. you don't build this thing correctly by taking shortcuts.
He can't be blamed for a kid who gets distracted by his handlers. He had to run the bad influences off and start from scratch.
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No way in hell oscar gets fired next year, no matter how the team does. They can 0-fer in conference play and oscar will be back.
Yep
I mean what do you expect with the egos he had that refused to work hard. At least he'll have the right type of attitude next year.
Yup, I mean oscar hasn't really had a bad year yet.
Year 1: Won the conference (Great Year)
Year 2: Betrayed by Angel, had to overcome losing pg, but still gutted it out and ended up in the top half of the conference (Great Year [considering the circumstances])
Year 3: Betrayed by Foster and his terrible attitude which lead to team mutiny of sorts (mulligan, not his fault)
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2 great years and a pass, who would fire a coach after that?
Year 4: oscar cleans house, fills roster with "right fits" and while not as many W's materialize as wanted the team is playing the right way
year 5: The team catches some good breaks and makes the NIT (improvement!)
Year 6: Just plain bad luck guys, key transfer or injury derails what would have surely been an NCAA tournament appearance (mulligan)
Year 7: Everything lines up just right and we snag a 12 seed, but get bounced in the first round (extension)
this is sickeningly real
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No way in hell oscar gets fired next year, no matter how the team does. They can 0-fer in conference play and oscar will be back.
Yep
I mean what do you expect with the egos he had that refused to work hard. At least he'll have the right type of attitude next year.
Yup, I mean oscar hasn't really had a bad year yet.
Year 1: Won the conference (Great Year)
Year 2: Betrayed by Angel, had to overcome losing pg, but still gutted it out and ended up in the top half of the conference (Great Year [considering the circumstances])
Year 3: Betrayed by Foster and his terrible attitude which lead to team mutiny of sorts (mulligan, not his fault)
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2 great years and a pass, who would fire a coach after that?
Year 4: oscar cleans house, fills roster with "right fits" and while not as many W's materialize as wanted the team is playing the right way
year 5: The team catches some good breaks and makes the NIT (improvement!)
Year 6: Just plain bad luck guys, key transfer or injury derails what would have surely been an NCAA tournament appearance (mulligan)
Year 7: Everything lines up just right and we snag a 12 seed, but get bounced in the first round (extension)
this is sickeningly real
sorry but you lost me at year 5.
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Starting 5 and next off bench next year:
1) Nigel Johnson, Deathbite
2) Hopper , The Flush??
3) Wesley ThatOneDude, Claws?
4) Malek Harris, Claws?
5) DJamer, Hurt, Bolden
Not a real post
No B-Ro, no legitimacy.
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anyone who went to a game this season should be ashamed of themselves for supporting this pile of crap program in any way.
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Starting 5 and next off bench next year:
1) Nigel Johnson, Deathbite
2) Hopper , The Flush??
3) Wesley ThatOneDude, Claws?
4) Malek Harris, Claws?
5) DJamer, Hurt, Bolden
Not a real post
No B-Ro, no legitimacy.
yep, I would put the o/u on B-Ro's min/game next season at 12 and starts at 4.5
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No way in hell oscar gets fired next year, no matter how the team does. They can 0-fer in conference play and oscar will be back.
Yep
I agree
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anyone who went to a game this season should be ashamed of themselves for supporting this pile of crap program in any way.
Sorry
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anyone who went to a game this season should be ashamed of themselves for supporting this pile of crap program in any way.
Sorry
just don't do it again. i want the women to average more fans per game than the men next season.
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anyone who went to a game this season should be ashamed of themselves for supporting this pile of crap program in any way.
Sorry
just don't do it again. i want the women to average more fans per game than the men next season.
THAT really is the only way that change will occur. Sadly.
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oscar's seat is so cold you can make ice cream in his ass.
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The idea that the AD is "happier than ever"(-stan) makes me even more angry than the fact that we are kicking marcus out.
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oscar's seat is so cold you can make ice cream in his ass.
:lol:
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The idea that the AD is "happier than ever"(-stan) makes me even more angry than the fact that we are kicking marcus out.
I think he's lying to try and calm the fanbase down. Stan loves oscar, he was openly campaigning for him on radio after the TCU loss. oscar is a giant dork just like Stan, and I think Stan has become WAY too emotionally invested. What Stan says at this point doesn't concern me. John Currie won't let basketball become a financial drain. It's not in his nature.
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anyone who went to a game this season should be ashamed of themselves for supporting this pile of crap program in any way.
Pffffft
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I think he's lying to try and calm the fanbase down. Stan loves oscar, he was openly campaigning for him on radio after the TCU loss. oscar is a giant dork just like Stan, and I think Stan has become WAY too emotionally invested. What Stan says at this point doesn't concern me. John Currie won't let basketball become a financial drain. It's not in his nature.
I agree with all of this.
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The idea that the AD is "happier than ever"(-stan) makes me even more angry than the fact that we are kicking marcus out.
I think he's lying to try and calm the fanbase down. Stan loves oscar, he was openly campaigning for him on radio after the TCU loss. oscar is a giant dork just like Stan, and I think Stan has become WAY too emotionally invested. What Stan says at this point doesn't concern me. John Currie won't let basketball become a financial drain. It's not in his nature.
Currie is why basketball is becoming an financial drain. Don't be a respect.
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The idea that the AD is "happier than ever"(-stan) makes me even more angry than the fact that we are kicking marcus out.
I think he's lying to try and calm the fanbase down. Stan loves oscar, he was openly campaigning for him on radio after the TCU loss. oscar is a giant dork just like Stan, and I think Stan has become WAY too emotionally invested. What Stan says at this point doesn't concern me. John Currie won't let basketball become a financial drain. It's not in his nature.
Currie is why basketball is becoming an financial drain. Don't be a respect.
Logical reasoning isn't really your thing...is it?
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The idea that the AD is "happier than ever"(-stan) makes me even more angry than the fact that we are kicking marcus out.
I think he's lying to try and calm the fanbase down. Stan loves oscar, he was openly campaigning for him on radio after the TCU loss. oscar is a giant dork just like Stan, and I think Stan has become WAY too emotionally invested. What Stan says at this point doesn't concern me. John Currie won't let basketball become a financial drain. It's not in his nature.
well, that and the fact that john currie signs stan's paychecks. of course he's going to toe the company line.
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The idea that the AD is "happier than ever"(-stan) makes me even more angry than the fact that we are kicking marcus out.
I think he's lying to try and calm the fanbase down. Stan loves oscar, he was openly campaigning for him on radio after the TCU loss. oscar is a giant dork just like Stan, and I think Stan has become WAY too emotionally invested. What Stan says at this point doesn't concern me. John Currie won't let basketball become a financial drain. It's not in his nature.
well, that and the fact that john currie signs stan's paychecks. of course he's going to toe the company line.
I don't think it's the company line though. John Currie isn't some evil villain trying to make our lives miserable (although it's the end result regardless of intent). He's surely not very happy about this past year, and I certainly haven't heard him go out of his way in public to make sure oscar knows that his job is totally safe. In fact, I bet they've had some very uncomfortable conversations since the season ended.
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The idea that the AD is "happier than ever"(-stan) makes me even more angry than the fact that we are kicking marcus out.
I think he's lying to try and calm the fanbase down. Stan loves oscar, he was openly campaigning for him on radio after the TCU loss. oscar is a giant dork just like Stan, and I think Stan has become WAY too emotionally invested. What Stan says at this point doesn't concern me. John Currie won't let basketball become a financial drain. It's not in his nature.
Currie is why basketball is becoming an financial drain. Don't be a respect.
Logical reasoning isn't really your thing...is it?
Tap-out accepted.
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I don't think it's the company line though. John Currie isn't some evil villain trying to make our lives miserable (although it's the end result regardless of intent). He's surely not very happy about this past year, and I certainly haven't heard him go out of his way in public to make sure oscar knows that his job is totally safe. In fact, I bet they've had some very uncomfortable conversations since the season ended.
Yeah, I don't think he's purposely trying to salvage the program. Clearly, he had a different point of view when hiring Weber. For whatever reason I truly believe he thought it was a good hire and that Weber would be successful here. But I also think that if things go south he won't be afraid to Patterson Weber if he needs to.
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I don't think it's the company line though. John Currie isn't some evil villain trying to make our lives miserable (although it's the end result regardless of intent). He's surely not very happy about this past year, and I certainly haven't heard him go out of his way in public to make sure oscar knows that his job is totally safe. In fact, I bet they've had some very uncomfortable conversations since the season ended.
Yeah, I don't think he's purposely trying to salvage the program. Clearly, he had a different point of view when hiring Weber. For whatever reason I truly believe he thought it was a good hire and that Weber would be successful here. But I also think that if things go south he won't be afraid to Patterson Weber if he needs to.
Things are already like Faulkland Islands south.
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We are going to lose to Missouri in the CBE and I am going to be all kinds of salty.
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Why wouldn't have Currie been completely involved with the dismissal of a player - especially one of Foster's stature? For all anyone knows, oscar fought to keep Foster and Currie said no. And at the very least, there's no way oscar dismissed Foster without some sort of approval from Currie.
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I am 100% sure Currie was involved in every step of this. oscar is not doing anything without Curries knowledge and say-so. That is why I am so confident that there is no way Weber gets fired any time soon.
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Assuming we miss the NIT next year, will the AD pony up for a pay-to-play tourney next year, or go two years without post-season play?
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I am 100% sure Currie was involved in every step of this. oscar is not doing anything without Curries knowledge and say-so. That is why I am so confident that there is no way Weber gets fired any time soon.
That makes too much sense. Now I am actually scared.
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I don't believe Currie would be willing to do the CBI.
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I don't believe Currie would be willing to do the CBI.
Do they award trophies for polishing?
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I don't believe Currie would be willing to do the CBI.
He might for a rag-tag group of overachievers.
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I don't believe Currie would be willing to do the CBI.
Do they award trophies for polishing?
Not sure, I do think the CBI best 2 of 3 championship format is kind of cool. I don't ever want to play in it.
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If oscar is his guy, he definitely would so that a year later he could trow out a stat about post season appearances 3 out of 4 yrs.
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I don't think it's the company line though. John Currie isn't some evil villain trying to make our lives miserable (although it's the end result regardless of intent). He's surely not very happy about this past year, and I certainly haven't heard him go out of his way in public to make sure oscar knows that his job is totally safe. In fact, I bet they've had some very uncomfortable conversations since the season ended.
Yeah, I don't think he's purposely trying to salvage the program. Clearly, he had a different point of view when hiring Weber. For whatever reason I truly believe he thought it was a good hire and that Weber would be successful here. But I also think that if things go south he won't be afraid to Patterson Weber if he needs to.
um, the company line is that oscar is safe, and that everything is fine. the things that stan has said. currie isn't going to acknowledge any cracks in his decision to hire weber.
of course he isn't trying to purposely sink the program. maybe you guys just don't understand the term.
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um, the company line is that oscar is safe, and that everything is fine. the things that stan has said. currie isn't going to acknowledge any cracks in his decision to hire weber.
of course he isn't trying to purposely sink the program. maybe you guys just don't understand the term.
Well yeah, but I think at some point even Currie has limit$.
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um, the company line is that oscar is safe, and that everything is fine. the things that stan has said. currie isn't going to acknowledge any cracks in his decision to hire weber.
of course he isn't trying to purposely sink the program. maybe you guys just don't understand the term.
Well yeah, but I think at some point even Currie has limit$.
not that anyone from the AD is going to admit. remember, we were also told that basketball ticket revenues were up.
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Since day 1 of oscar Weber I never wished for the program to fail. I wished to be wrong, for goEMAW to be wrong, about Weber, even though I knew goEMAW is rarely wrong. For this upcoming season I can't help but think of a better thing that could happen than for us to do poorly enough for oscar to get fired.
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Since day 1 of oscar Weber I never wished for the program to fail. I wished to be wrong, for goEMAW to be wrong, about Weber, even though I knew goEMAW is rarely wrong. For this upcoming season I can't help but think of a better thing that could happen than for us to do poorly enough for oscar to get fired.
The trouble is (and I know I am being a goddamn repeating mp3 here) that there is no "poor enough" for oscar to get fired next year. Cheer for some glimpse at brightness because the night is long and full of terrors.
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Whoever mentioned money before is probably right. Once rev drops below a certain level, that will probably be the only time Currie will allow his ego to take a hit and admit that he made a bad hire.
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Since day 1 of oscar Weber I never wished for the program to fail. I wished to be wrong, for goEMAW to be wrong, about Weber, even though I knew goEMAW is rarely wrong. For this upcoming season I can't help but think of a better thing that could happen than for us to do poorly enough for oscar to get fired.
The trouble is (and I know I am being a goddamn repeating mp3 here) that there is no "poor enough" for oscar to get fired next year. Cheer for some glimpse at brightness because the night is long and full of terrors.
Yep. Unless he somehow manages not to win a single game next season, oscar is sticking around.
At this point the debate is over whether it's better to suffer through 4-5 more years plus of oscar mediocrity and have the next coach have at least some pieces to work with at a moribund program or biting the bullet and leaving the next coach nothing but ashes to work with in 2-3 years after oscar implodes.
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Whoever mentioned money before is probably right. Once rev drops below a certain level, that will probably be the only time Currie will allow his ego to take a hit and admit that he made a bad hire.
Clearly, its his MO. He's good at it. He won't let basketball fall to the point where we have multiple seasons with 6K fans.
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https://twitter.com/KenCorbitt/status/580819569452957697
https://twitter.com/KenCorbitt/status/580819343614808065
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https://twitter.com/KenCorbitt/status/580819569452957697
https://twitter.com/KenCorbitt/status/580819343614808065
There you have it, oscar's decisions.
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There you have it, oscar's decisions.
I know people are cynical of Currie, but he's playing a good boss game here. He put the responsibility on oscar to be consistent. When it reaches the point for firing, then there is nothing to fall back on to say this was Currie's deal, this will be oscar's failure alone. Currie knows what he's doing here. IMO.
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Since day 1 of oscar Weber I never wished for the program to fail. I wished to be wrong, for goEMAW to be wrong, about Weber, even though I knew goEMAW is rarely wrong. For this upcoming season I can't help but think of a better thing that could happen than for us to do poorly enough for oscar to get fired.
The trouble is (and I know I am being a goddamn repeating mp3 here) that there is no "poor enough" for oscar to get fired next year. Cheer for some glimpse at brightness because the night is long and full of terrors.
The older I get the more I appreciate Chignon and Catzacker. That probably says something about me, or them, possibly humanity.
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We need some of our players to be heroes and get Weber to violate an NCAA rule. Go out to eat with him this summer and forget their wallets or something.
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i like that he credits the scoop to "twitter" rather than the reporter that tweeted it.
this is my favorite part as well. as if Goodman was just some guy walking on the street that bumped into Tre and Jevon in the parking lot..."hey, what's up guys? what? really? I can't believe that...hello twitter..."
Fitz: We should say that Jeff Goodaman - who is he with now? ESPN? - he's so awkward on the set, doesn't he always look like he just left the dentist? Ah, he's reporting through sources which would probably mean the K-State coaches because who else would know, um, that 2 players are leaving the program.
Ray-Gun: For sure, Jevon Thomas; I've confirmed that. Tre Harris, I'm still working on that as of Tuesday afternoon.
OMG :ROFL:
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I am 100% sure Currie was involved in every step of this. oscar is not doing anything without Curries knowledge and say-so. That is why I am so confident that there is no way Weber gets fired any time soon.
That makes too much sense. Now I am actually scared.
Right, but Currie could have absolutely dismissed those players or oscar did it with his permission; that doesn't mean that Currie isn't holding oscar responsible for what the players he recruited did or didn't do. We can go round and round on whether Currie will either make excuses for oscar or hold him directly responsible, the fact is we're all guessing we have no basis to know whether he is too stubborn to see his mistakes or not. He's outright fired one coach and that situation was nothing like this one is although I will point out that Deb was the very first coach Currie gave an extension to.
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it's too bad that currie thinks firing oscar would be admitting a mistake. i'd actually argue that currie made a good hire (oscar's 32-22 big 12 record, two ncaa tourney appearances and a league title was a decent three-year run by any objective measure, and i doubt hypothetical coach X would have done better).
but now ... the team is coming off a sub-.500 season. the best players aren't returning. the fan base doesn't like the coach. with the roster that returns, oddsmakers will likely list k-state as the second-worst big 12 team, and possibly the worst. that means a second straight non-ncaa tourney season, and a fan base that will likely stop supporting him entering the 2016-17 season (after what'll surely be a low attendance season next year).
firing oscar would mean buying him out, which comes at a cost. but if keeping oscar results in declining fan support, fewer ticket sales, less national exposure, etc., then it's easy to justify the price tag that comes with it. again, as others have said: if it's inevitable, you might as well just make it immediate. firing oscar is a +EV move in the long run, based on the info we have in front of us.
i know people hate currie, but he's done a lot of good for k-state, certainly with the facilities upgrades and fundraising. the athletic department is in much better shape now than it was prior to when he took over.
if he fired oscar tomorrow, the talking point wouldn't be, "currie screwed up by hiring oscar!"
more likely, he would be celebrated, and i think he'd win over the remaining doubters he currently has.
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it was never a good hire. Firing weber would not immediately gain him favor with his detractors.
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it was never a good hire. Firing weber would not immediately gain him favor with his detractors.
i highly doubt any other coach would have won (shared) a big 12 title, the first in program history. anything is possible, but i'd make any other coach currie could have hired (gottlieb, underwood, etc.) a big underdog to have accomplished the same feat under the same circumstances. again, oscar's three-year run on the whole was more positive than negative, and exceeded the expectations that most had for him.
if firing weber wouldn't gain currie favor with his detractors, then this fan base is dumber than i think.
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"The decisions he made are what he believes is right."
A real ringing endorsement and a bully vote of confidence if I've ever heard one.
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...then this fan base is dumber than i think.
How dumb do you think it is? I bet it's a push. It's probably the same amount of dumb.
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it's too bad that currie thinks firing oscar would be admitting a mistake. i'd actually argue that currie made a good hire (oscar's 32-22 big 12 record, two ncaa tourney appearances and a league title was a decent three-year run by any objective measure, and i doubt hypothetical coach X would have done better).
but now ... the team is coming off a sub-.500 season. the best players aren't returning. the fan base doesn't like the coach. with the roster that returns, oddsmakers will likely list k-state as the second-worst big 12 team, and possibly the worst. that means a second straight non-ncaa tourney season, and a fan base that will likely stop supporting him entering the 2016-17 season (after what'll surely be a low attendance season next year).
firing oscar would mean buying him out, which comes at a cost. but if keeping oscar results in declining fan support, fewer ticket sales, less national exposure, etc., then it's easy to justify the price tag that comes with it. again, as others have said: if it's inevitable, you might as well just make it immediate. firing oscar is a +EV move in the long run, based on the info we have in front of us.
i know people hate currie, but he's done a lot of good for k-state, certainly with the facilities upgrades and fundraising. the athletic department is in much better shape now than it was prior to when he took over.
if he fired oscar tomorrow, the talking point wouldn't be, "currie screwed up by hiring oscar!"
more likely, he would be celebrated, and i think he'd win over the remaining doubters he currently has.
Unless they've got a sure winner, or solid list of real possibilities, waiting in the wings it makes as much sense to let this thing burn to the ground next season. You get another year to evaluate network the coaching pool, and you squash any potential hire's fears of a quick hook.
As for what the athletic department or their employees are saying aka Stan, none of that really matters. Even if it is basically a lame-duck situation they're not going to say that publicly and that's just fine.
Your points about fan support and apathy heading into 16-17 are absolutely valid regardless. It's just a matter of weighing everything together. I'd rather they tank next season if it means a better shot at a winner next April than space Weber now only to hire a SLTH.
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it was never a good hire. Firing weber would not immediately gain him favor with his detractors.
i highly doubt any other coach would have won (shared) a big 12 title, the first in program history. anything is possible, but i'd make any other coach currie could have hired (gottlieb, underwood, etc.) a big underdog to have accomplished the same feat under the same circumstances. again, oscar's three-year run on the whole was more positive than negative, and exceeded the expectations that most had for him.
if firing weber wouldn't gain currie favor with his detractors, then this fan base is dumber than i think.
firing oscar doesnt mean he would hire a suitable replacement. If he got brad underwood then yes i would imagine the hatred would be dropped quickly.
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Don't overestimate the hatred for Currie.
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Overestimate?
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Overestimate?
Apologies if I misinterpreted, but I don't think many people have much of a problem with Currie.
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it was never a good hire. Firing weber would not immediately gain him favor with his detractors.
i highly doubt any other coach would have won (shared) a big 12 title, the first in program history. anything is possible, but i'd make any other coach currie could have hired (gottlieb, underwood, etc.) a big underdog to have accomplished the same feat under the same circumstances. again, oscar's three-year run on the whole was more positive than negative, and exceeded the expectations that most had for him.
if firing weber wouldn't gain currie favor with his detractors, then this fan base is dumber than i think.
firing oscar doesnt mean he would hire a suitable replacement. If he got brad underwood then yes i would imagine the hatred would be dropped quickly.
I highly doubt Currie would hire Brad, since he was part of the coaching group that left with Frank. And I don't think Brad would make this place his first option with Currie around.
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it was never a good hire. Firing weber would not immediately gain him favor with his detractors.
i highly doubt any other coach would have won (shared) a big 12 title, the first in program history. anything is possible, but i'd make any other coach currie could have hired (gottlieb, underwood, etc.) a big underdog to have accomplished the same feat under the same circumstances. again, oscar's three-year run on the whole was more positive than negative, and exceeded the expectations that most had for him.
if firing weber wouldn't gain currie favor with his detractors, then this fan base is dumber than i think.
firing oscar doesnt mean he would hire a suitable replacement. If he got brad underwood then yes i would imagine the hatred would be dropped quickly.
I highly doubt Currie would hire Brad, since he was part of the coaching group that left with Frank. And I don't think Brad would make this place his first option with Currie around.
The last that I knew, Brad would work under pretty much under any conditions if he could be the head coach at K-State. Maybe that changed, but I doubt it. This is the only job he's really ever wanted.
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"The decisions he made are what he believes is right."
A real ringing endorsement and a bully vote of confidence if I've ever heard one.
Yes. ADJC has put a bit of distance between himself and oscar, IMO.
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it was never a good hire. Firing weber would not immediately gain him favor with his detractors.
i highly doubt any other coach would have won (shared) a big 12 title, the first in program history. anything is possible, but i'd make any other coach currie could have hired (gottlieb, underwood, etc.) a big underdog to have accomplished the same feat under the same circumstances. again, oscar's three-year run on the whole was more positive than negative, and exceeded the expectations that most had for him.
if firing weber wouldn't gain currie favor with his detractors, then this fan base is dumber than i think.
firing oscar doesnt mean he would hire a suitable replacement. If he got brad underwood then yes i would imagine the hatred would be dropped quickly.
I highly doubt Currie would hire Brad, since he was part of the coaching group that left with Frank. And I don't think Brad would make this place his first option with Currie around.
The last that I knew, Brad would work under pretty much under any conditions if he could be the head coach at K-State. Maybe that changed, but I doubt it. This is the only job he's really ever wanted.
To be fair, he wasn't qualified at the time and I bet most would have hated him pre sfa (where he's yet to coach a single recruit of his). Hiring him right now wouldn't fix anything (even tho I want him in the long run).
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where he's yet to coach a single recruit of his.
i know this gets said a lot, but it can't be said too often - you're so stupid.
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i think he'd win over the remaining doubters he currently has.
if he fired weber and hired underwood this spring, i'd cut a little topiary statue of him in my backyard.
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where he's yet to coach a single recruit of his.
i know this gets said a lot, but it can't be said too often - you're so stupid.
His run has been made with mainly leftovers. I know you try so hard to be the expert here, but you can't downgrade one coach for making a run with frank players and raise another like simba in the lion king. Btw, how much did you spend today?
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His run has been made with mainly leftovers. I know you try so hard to be the expert here, but you can't downgrade one coach for making a run with frank players and raise another like simba in the lion king. Btw, how much did you spend today?
in your mind is everyone who doesn't continuously spout off erroneous bullshit that can be checked with three clicks on google an expert?
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btw, what makes you so stupid is not that you don't know anything, it's that you don't listen to the experts.
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His run has been made with mainly leftovers. I know you try so hard to be the expert here, but you can't downgrade one coach for making a run with frank players and raise another like simba in the lion king. Btw, how much did you spend today?
in your mind is someone who doesn't continuously spout off erroneous bullshit that can be checked with three clicks on google an expert?
You tell me, you didn't even know if Tre DNP 4 games this year. :'bye cruel world:
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btw, what makes you so stupid is not that you don't know anything, it's that you don't listen to the experts.
Who the eff are the experts, dweeb?
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Here you go, dumb eff. http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/team/stats/_/id/2617/stephen-f-austin-lumberjacks
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Ty Charles, the savior of K-State hoops. :lol:
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Wacky, what the eff point are you trying to make here?
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Wacky, what the eff point are you trying to make here?
Well, apparently sys thinks he got me with the brad underwood can recruit bit.
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He's rough ridin' blowing the rest of that conference out of the water in recruiting. A three star in that conference is like a rough ridin' McDonalds All-American, and he's got three of them while he's been there. Looks like sys is right.
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You tell me, you didn't even know if Tre DNP 4 games this year. :'bye cruel world:
you notice that i asked if anyone knew, instead of blindly asserting that he played in every game?
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btw, what makes you so stupid is not that you don't know anything, it's that you don't listen to the experts.
Who the eff are the experts, dweeb?
to you, everyone else is an expert. you should listen to everyone before you listen to yourself.
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SFA had never landed a three star recruit before Brad Underwood got there. He has clearly elevated the recruiting of an already good program.
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Sad to see sys get destroyed like this, like watching Jordan with the wizards
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Sad to see sys get destroyed like this, like watching Jordan with the wizards
He's getting old and lazy.
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Goodness gracious, wacky
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we are none of us what we were.
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Like when he scored 50 points or something at nearly 40 yrs old. What a has been.
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SFA had never landed a three star recruit before Brad Underwood got there. He has clearly elevated the recruiting of an already good program.
Oh, good grief. His recruiting has had no results in the last two years. He can coach tho! Ftr, sys never liked foster, so do with what you will.
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Like when he scored 50 points or something at nearly 40 yrs old. What a has been.
Who was he playing?
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Like when he scored 50 points or something at nearly 40 yrs old. What a has been.
;)
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SFA had never landed a three star recruit before Brad Underwood got there. He has clearly elevated the recruiting of an already good program.
Oh, good grief. His recruiting has had no results in the last two years. He can coach tho! Ftr, sys never liked foster, so do with what you will.
Are you on rough ridin' drugs? His recruits accounted for about 2/3 of their scoring this year.
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Like when he scored 50 points or something at nearly 40 yrs old. What a has been.
Who was he playing?
Experts.
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:sdeek: wacky I hope you're drunk tonight
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He's been the coach the last two years, dumbass. He's recruited none of his scoring.
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Somebody downtown should check on Wacky, I think he's having a bad trip or something.
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Thing is wacky, it's not just that Underwood is recruiting at a high level for the program that he is at in the league he is in. It's also not just that his recruits have provided tangible contributions during his tenure. It's both of those combined with him not being held under a microscope regarding "coaching his own players" like oscar is.
Why? Because like most coaches, Underwood doesn't prove the his past failures in that regard are a thing of the past.
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He's been the coach the last two years, dumbass. He's recruited none of his scoring.
Before you post again you should use that ESPN link you posted to compare the 2012-13 roster to the 2014-15 roster
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Sad to see sys get destroyed like this, like watching Jordan with the wizards
He's getting old and lazy.
I've never witnessed a poster in my life on this blog wish harm on someone else like, sys.
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POST MORE CRAZY STUFF, WACKY!!!!
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POST MORE CRAZY STUFF, WACKY!!!!
I thought you were doing better, bud.
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I've never witnessed a poster in my life on this blog wish harm on someone else like, sys.
i've never wished you harm. i just wish you didn't exist.
i guess maybe i've wished you a little harm, but only because you already exist.
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I've never witnessed a poster in my life on this blog wish harm on someone else like, sys.
i've never wished you harm. i just wish you didn't exist.
i guess maybe i've wished you a little harm, but only because you already exist.
:lol: loser.
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POST MORE CRAZY STUFF, WACKY!!!!
I thought you were doing better, bud.
:confused:
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This is sad, guys. This is so sad.
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Wacky, you have to know the difference between asking a question and blindly making bold statements with plenty of evidence that said statements aren't true, right?
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I think we could be decent next year. :dunno: If the new players coming in can contribute quickly and oscar lands a big guy JUCO player that can actually play post and is tall by BIGXII standards it isn't much of a stretch. Crazier things have happened, but what if Edwards actually lived up to the hype next year?
If oscar doesn't mix up his strategy or coaching he should be out. If he goes balls to the wall with a new strategy I'm going to be intrigued.
Final question for all of you with HBBIQ what is stopping oscar from hiring a "great offensive mind" as an assistant at this point?
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Final question for all of you with HBBIQ what is stopping oscar from hiring a "great offensive mind" as an assistant at this point?
what is stopping kstate from hiring a great offensive mind as a head coach? or a good player manager? or recruiter? or any other individual quality that the combined efforts of oscar and his staff don't have?
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sys got zapped big time last night it looks like
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If Brad is recruiting 3 stars to sfa, he should be able to get 3 stars to kstate, imho.
We have way better stuff, more of it, are in a big time conf, and have more tradition and setting and other intangibles kids craze.
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You guys are right. Underwood is a recruiting machine. Sign this guy up ASAP! :driving:
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You guys are right. Underwood is a recruiting machine. Sign this guy up ASAP! :driving:
Maybe he's got another Will Spradling up his sleeve. :crossfingers:
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If Brad is recruiting 3 stars to sfa, he should be able to get 3 stars to kstate, imho.
We have way better stuff, more of it, are in a big time conf, and have more tradition and setting and other intangibles kids craze.
Brad would place so many kids at sunrise that is would become comical. <----- This is the shift ass crap you need to do at K-State.
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oh by the way guys, old spice will be good and healthy for next season too
wink wink wink!
:frown:
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Assuming no more meaningful recruits and DJamer is really ok, I give them a preseason grade of C+. Big Meat Hurt has to play better, Active Meat Hells-Williams will have help protect the rim, Wade be Sweet, and Edwards do more than be a good hopper, we should win 4 more than we lose.
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oh by the way guys, old spice will be good and healthy for next season too
wink wink wink!
:frown:
Has anyone seen Clams since the news broke?
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Number of kstate basketball games I watch next year < the amount of performance dollars in curries new contract.
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@nropp
KSU is likely to be the WORST major conference roster I have seen in years...and let's be serious, I follow DePaul.
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@nropp
KSU is likely to be the WORST major conference roster I have seen in years...and let's be serious, I follow DePaul.
eff you oscar Weber
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:bang:
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so i have been away, who transferred now?
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nm i read it :lol: jesus christ
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when you've lost nropp...
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mentioned this a few months ago, but hoping to start a website to chronicle this upcoming season.
hopefully i can round up a few helpers. after the year, will then publish as an eBook to celebrate the 30-year anniversary of...
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I know some good freelancers on fiverr that could get a killer ebook cover for like $10. Probably should have a free add on like "the many faces of oscar" or something.
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i just want to spend four months analyzing oscar's body language and quotes (well, excuses), while keeping a running count of how many times he says "hope."
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Audio book by trim?
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I can probably help.
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If the soundtrack can be performed by fitz and the lemon parties then I'll happily be the first to pre-order.
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If the soundtrack can be performed by fitz and the lemon parties then I'll happily be the first to pre-order.
:drool: :drool: :drool:
:bball:
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If the soundtrack can be performed by fitz and the lemon parties then I'll happily be the first to pre-order.
I know some guys in the band, I'll try to get in touch with them next time I see them. Usually they stick to football I think but this could be an exception.
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I think next year will be better than we think. IMO the Dean of Doom, Mr. Brown, Williams - the Texas stuffer, and Bullnuts Maurice will give us good nucleus. Guard play being the x factor.
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I'm glad someone made renocat as a sock that's wrong about literally everything, it's quite endearing
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Guys, watching a team of try-hard underclassmen claw their way to mediocrity will be a hell of a lot more fun than watching a talented, fairly experienced team half ass their way to the same outcome. It's science. I, for one, think that Brown and Wade will be a lof of fun to watch. If Westicles remembers that he doen't suck and starts balling out, even better. :ksu:
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I'm glad someone made renocat as a sock that's wrong about literally everything, it's quite endearing
Prefer x-long industrial strength purple trojans. I need to because I blow out just one, and it points straight not right. Liberal earther Hawks I hear wash them out and reuse them; that explains wheat waving - probably have an irratating rash.
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I'm glad someone made renocat as a sock that's wrong about literally everything, it's quite endearing
Prefer x-long industrial strength purple trojans. I need to because I blow out just one, and it points straight not right. Liberal earther Hawks I hear wash them out and reuse them; that explains wheat waving - probably have an irratating rash.
:love:
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I like the front line of Wes, Wade, and D.J. Big Meat and Bullnuts can be effectivr backups.
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I like the front line of Wes, Wade, and D.J. Big Meat and Bullnuts can be effectivr backups.
he's like the robert frost of message boarding
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Standout bjg meat. DJamer 6'9", Bullnuts 6'9", Wade 6'9", Bigmeat 6'11, xWhomper 7 ft. Some bulk.
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Sounds like a lineup for a solid 8th place finish.
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Wooly just needs another year to turn it around.
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The guy from Namibia didn't make it to campus, it's hard to predict these kind of things.
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Call me crazy, but I think we'll be decent next year. :surprised:
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There will be lots of tucks claiming we are decent next year when we finish eighth. There will be lots of talk about the officials, almost being involved in a three way tie for sixth place, moral victories, adversity (mostly injuries). Then oscar Weber will get another year. I'm making myself sad typing this all out.
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Call me crazy, but I think we'll be decent next year. :surprised:
you are crazy
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Irving / Stokes
Edwards / Brown
Wes / Edwards
Wade / Bullnuts / Hurts / DJamer
Hurt / DJamer / Bolden / Big Texas
Long story short about everybody has to pan out. Wade and Brown have to be Freshmen ready to contribute. Bullnuts and Stokes have to be a solid back up. Two out of the three (Edwards, Wes and Hurt) have to take their game to the next level. Irving has to be solid. DJamer has to be healthy.
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Irving / Stokes
Edwards / Brown
Wes / Edwards
Wade / Bullnuts / Hurts / DJamer
Hurt / DJamer / Bolden / Big Texas
Long story short about everybody has to pan out. Wade and Brown have to be Freshmen ready to contribute. Bullnuts and Stokes have to be a solid back up. Two out of the three (Edwards, Wes and Hurt) have to take their game to the next level. Irving has to be solid. DJamer has to be healthy.
It will take all of this simply to be mediocre/mildly respectable. Anything less and we will be a purple pitty party(with $1 off concessions, apparently)
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Irving / Stokes
Edwards / Brown
Wes / Edwards
Wade / Bullnuts / Hurts / DJamer
Hurt / DJamer / Bolden / Big Texas
Long story short about everybody has to pan out. Wade and Brown have to be Freshmen ready to contribute. Bullnuts and Stokes have to be a solid back up. Two out of the three (Edwards, Wes and Hurt) have to take their game to the next level. Irving has to be solid. DJamer has to be healthy.
DJamer must be healthy.
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most of those names sound made up
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Just read a good article in the Wichita Eagle about the younglings being on campus. Sounds like they may be a gritty bunch. Bullnuts is not here yet though
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There will be lots of tucks claiming we are decent next year when we finish eighth. There will be lots of talk about the officials, almost being involved in a three way tie for sixth place, moral victories, adversity (mostly injuries). Then oscar Weber will get another year. I'm making myself sad typing this all out.
someone should go ahead and mock up the breakdown of games that we only lost by 3 or 4 points and what our record would be if that ball had just bounced our way. then throw in the games where some of our roster was injured or suspended. could have been over .500 if we just hadn't been so darn unlucky.
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It's kind of like renodog, rest his bones. He used to run out to the edge of the yard hunker all up, make straining noises, curl his top lip up, and his eyes would glaze over just to take a dog dump. He would really put on a show if you yelled go dog. The result was usually a little scrawny turd. The results were poor, but it was kind of fun watching the production, and renodog thought he achieved something. Too bad we have Coach Renodog.
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https://twitter.com/coachbruceweber/status/609384615254470656
no rough ridin' way
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wut. :sdeek:
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Gotta be followed with the slowest second and third day of sales, right?
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There must have been a lot of people who really wanted that lavender jersey.
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https://twitter.com/coachbruceweber/status/609384615254470656
no rough ridin' way
:lol:
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They have been holding onto that ace for a long time. I mean, we played super good in them under Frank and no one sold them.
This is like a season ticket hail mary or something.
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The Animal personally acceptance rate'd each application at 200%
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We broke a season ticket first day record and lost money. Go cats!
Gonna win 'em all!
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Did people not take note of how garbage-y the GTM jerseys they make for these promos are? Nobody saw what they put Bookie Pimp in a year or 2 ago at a football game? My game-worn #StrutNCut jersey that metalhead won is better quality.
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Did people not take note of how garbage-y the GTM jerseys they make for these promos are? Nobody saw what they put Bookie Pimp in a year or 2 ago at a football game? My game-worn #StrutNCut jersey that metalhead won is better quality.
I was thinking that my game worn tank that I wore when we won the all campus 'ship was much nicer. But then I remembered that we were sponsored by Lowman's, so KSU athletic department never had a chance.
Gonna win 'em all!
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I'm thinkin' about tryin' out for a schola-shiiiiip
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is that thing rough ridin' real or 'shopped?
"Walk-on turned D1 Scholarship athlete" :lol:
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Why does that piss me off so much?! Holy crap, I wanna kill oscar Weber after seeing that. :curse:
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good for Vulture, but i hate the crap out of everything about that.
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Our next Ron Baker.
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I mean, it's a good photo. Looks like Rho Rho has been hitting the weight room. #beefcake
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I mean, it's a good photo. Looks like Rho Rho has been hitting the weight room. #beefcake
Reps become sets,
Sets become workouts,
In a far-off corner of the Prairie oscar Weber
Dribbles the hoops program into a volcano on purpose.
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Oh man! maybe my fav post of yours
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Gotta be followed with the slowest second and third day of sales, right?
Incorrect.
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We broke a season ticket first day record and lost money.
First half is correct, second half is not.
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@CC come back when sales are complete.
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We broke a season ticket first day record and lost money.
First half is correct, second half is not.
If all of those people would have bought in the first week, without getting a lavender fake jersey, then the 2nd part is also correct.
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We broke a season ticket first day record and lost money.
First half is correct, second half is not.
If all of those people would have bought in the first week, without getting a lavender fake jersey, then the 2nd part is also correct.
The jerseys are paid for out of a promotions budget. It doesn't have any impact on revenue from ticket sales (which through two days is up).
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We broke a season ticket first day record and lost money.
First half is correct, second half is not.
If all of those people would have bought in the first week, without getting a lavender fake jersey, then the 2nd part is also correct.
The jerseys are paid for out of a promotions budget. It doesn't have any impact on revenue from ticket sales (which through two days is up).
Promotions budget is a magically funded bucket. It has no impact on whether or not KSU athletics makes money. :ksu:
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We broke a season ticket first day record and lost money.
First half is correct, second half is not.
If all of those people would have bought in the first week, without getting a lavender fake jersey, then the 2nd part is also correct.
The jerseys are paid for out of a promotions budget. It doesn't have any impact on revenue from ticket sales (which through two days is up).
Promotions budget is a magically funded bucket. It has no impact on whether or not KSU athletics makes money. :ksu:
That's accurate: the promotions budget is set each fiscal year, as is every other budget item. It doesn't change based on how ticket sales go. So, you are correct, it has no impact.
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We broke a season ticket first day record and lost money.
First half is correct, second half is not.
If all of those people would have bought in the first week, without getting a lavender fake jersey, then the 2nd part is also correct.
The jerseys are paid for out of a promotions budget. It doesn't have any impact on revenue from ticket sales (which through two days is up).
Promotions budget is a magically funded bucket. It has no impact on whether or not KSU athletics makes money. :ksu:
That's accurate: the promotions budget is set each fiscal year, as is every other budget item. It doesn't change based on how ticket sales go. So, you are correct, it has no impact.
:Woohoo:
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is there anyone i can talk to that would allow me to just buy the jersey? like, ksu orders 1012 jerseys instead of 1011 or whatever and i just pay them for whatever it costs to print that extra jersey?
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is there anyone i can talk to that would allow me to just buy the jersey? like, ksu orders 1012 jerseys instead of 1011 or whatever and i just pay them for whatever it costs to print that extra jersey?
You should have asked this question a few days ago. I bet the ticket sales would have been way lower if that was the case.
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Rohlender got a ship 'cause oscar couldn't land anyone else.......or everyone left........whatever
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Gotta be followed with the slowest second and third day of sales, right?
Incorrect.
More records?
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good for Vulture, but i hate the crap out of everything about that.
The man has some guns though
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We broke a season ticket first day record and lost money.
First half is correct, second half is not.
If all of those people would have bought in the first week, without getting a lavender fake jersey, then the 2nd part is also correct.
The jerseys are paid for out of a promotions budget. It doesn't have any impact on revenue from ticket sales (which through two days is up).
Guys the jerseys are reversable. That changes the season ticket selling game forever.
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Our next Ron Baker.
Two years too late.
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We broke a season ticket first day record and lost money.
First half is correct, second half is not.
If all of those people would have bought in the first week, without getting a lavender fake jersey, then the 2nd part is also correct.
The jerseys are paid for out of a promotions budget. It doesn't have any impact on revenue from ticket sales (which through two days is up).
Guys the jerseys are reversable. That changes the season ticket selling game forever.
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Can ADJC get it done or what?
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We broke a season ticket first day record and lost money.
First half is correct, second half is not.
If all of those people would have bought in the first week, without getting a lavender fake jersey, then the 2nd part is also correct.
The jerseys are paid for out of a promotions budget. It doesn't have any impact on revenue from ticket sales (which through two days is up).
Guys the jerseys are reversable. That changes the season ticket selling game forever.
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Can ADJC get it done or what?
The man is a genius.
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#paintitlavender
#packitwithlavender
#loaditwithlavender
Gonna win 'em all!
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The rules changes are interesting. I think I like them.
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The rules changes are interesting. I think I like them.
Why, so we can get beat by more?
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If they had changed the rules so the team with the least amount of points wins......we would have a chance :Yuck:
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Who is anyone kidding in this thread? we're so mumped. :buh-bye:
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If they had changed the rules so the team with the least amount of points wins......we would have a chance :Yuck:
Then would't the teams play in the opposite direction thus making it the same game?
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None of this matters. Mediocre season coming.
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None of this matters. Mediocre season coming.
So you're a glass half full kinda guy?
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It doesn't matter how full the glass is. One of our fans will throw the glass on the floor and smash it as soon as we lose by 15 to some nobody in our OOC sched.
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Worse case we win 21 games and have a terrible recruiting class and can't take a step forward next year.
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Bullnuts, xWhomper, Wade, DaJ, Big Meat, Brown, Big Hop, and the Grunt Brigade will keep us entertained.
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tons of morons who can't balance a checkbook or set a household budget getting outed by CC.
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Worse case we win 21 games and have a terrible recruiting class and can't take a step forward next year.
i just had to quote this
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The answer!
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if you held a gun to my head and pulled the trigger if i couldn't name more than 3 players on the team i'd be dead.
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if you held a gun to my head and pulled the trigger if i couldn't name more than 3 players on the team i'd be dead.
Come on man. Wes, Rholeder, DJamer.
*Thank god you didnt say 4 because I am SOL after that...
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Edwards
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None of this matters. Mediocre Abysmal season coming.
FIFY
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Evidently we are going to be playing up tempo now. I mean, that is what oscar apparently sold to Freeman to get him to sign. :dunno:
I hope this is true. It would at least make us quasi watchable.
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Every coach ever tells recruits they play up tempo ball, above the rim ball.
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Evidently we are going to be playing up tempo now. I mean, that is what oscar apparently sold to Freeman to get him to sign. :dunno:
I hope this is true. It would at least make us quasi watchable.
New shot clock, everyone is up tempo now. oscar will have this thing revved up to at least 66 possessions per game now, just you watch.
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The answer!
Guys, where's the nickname thread?!!! :Wha:
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Edwards
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I always forget about him.
Also, who's that one point guard we have?
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I love this! The cancer is gone. We have a new lease on life. I'm glad we have those in the program who are now willing to speak out and provide context. I'm pumped. All I expect or want is effort along with a good attitude. The rest will take care of itself.
You could tell by the promotional video that the boys want those who would support them to do so. They aim to unite as a family and prove doubters that they are winners. With that mentality they will succeed. "And to heck with THOSE doubters!" Go Cats
I couldn't be more excited for next year. These guys seem like they get it. Time will tell.
I didn't see any excuse making in this story, only hard-nosed determination to not repeat the mistakes of last season and a return to the culture of the previous two seasons. These new players get it. No short-cuts, no egos, no NBAitis, no pot, no breaking of team rules, no laziness, no skipping practice, no division in the locker room, no standing around in the "motion" offense. No BULLSHIT!
Will this team win a bunch of games? Who knows. But I betya after a season of playing together with a renewed vigor, this team will be a bitch at some point in the future.
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...no NBAitis...
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holy crap!
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All I expect or want is effort along with a good attitude.
:Woot: I say this to my six year old boys soccer team also!
Go Cats.
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I love this! The cancer is gone. We have a new lease on life. I'm glad we have those in the program who are now willing to speak out and provide context. I'm pumped. All I expect or want is effort along with a good attitude. The rest will take care of itself.
You could tell by the promotional video that the boys want those who would support them to do so. They aim to unite as a family and prove doubters that they are winners. With that mentality they will succeed. "And to heck with THOSE doubters!" Go Cats
I couldn't be more excited for next year. These guys seem like they get it. Time will tell.
I didn't see any excuse making in this story, only hard-nosed determination to not repeat the mistakes of last season and a return to the culture of the previous two seasons. These new players get it. No short-cuts, no egos, no NBAitis, no pot, no breaking of team rules, no laziness, no skipping practice, no division in the locker room, no standing around in the "motion" offense. No BULLSHIT!
Will this team win a bunch of games? Who knows. But I betya after a season of playing together with a renewed vigor, this team will be a bitch at some point in the future.
BBS HERO!!!!!
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that's too good
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the time will tell guy nailed it. either these guys get it or they don't. we can't tell now, but by the end of the season we'll know.
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the time will tell guy nailed it. either these guys get it or they don't. we can't tell now, but by the end of the season we'll know.
Him and Chum1 should hang out.
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If these guys stay away from the weed and wild wiener parties, they will be at least 3 games above .500.
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I don't know what a wild wiener party is, but I'm intrigued.
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Puni has them all the time. Don't you follow his lunch thread?
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Puni has them all the time. Don't you follow his lunch thread?
I don't, but I will now :excited:
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it was some pretty tasty looking chinese food today
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I didn't see any excuse making in this story, only hard-nosed determination to not repeat the mistakes of last season and a return to the culture of the previous two seasons. These new players get it. No short-cuts, no egos, no NBAitis, no pot, no breaking of team rules, no laziness, no skipping practice, no division in the locker room, no standing around in the "motion" offense. No BULLSHIT!
Will this team win a bunch of games? Who knows. But I betya after a season of playing together with a renewed vigor, this team will be a bitch at some point in the future.
No wins
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"no NBAitis" listed as a positive is very lol. we're going to have weber coaching us for longer than I have patience for.
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"Will this team win a bunch of games? Who knows! But I betya..."
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Somebody needs to photoshop our current roster all blinged out in NBA attire.
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the "this team will be a bitch at some point" comment was fantastic because it can also go either way.
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renewed vigor
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:blindfold: :blindfold:
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Guys, they're rough ridin' walk ons, wgaf?! Everyone is BID from the walk on pictures circling the internets. It's so rough ridin' dumb.
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The guy on the right looks like oscar came into a room with a ball and a camera then said "think fast", threw the ball at his chest, then quickly snapped a pic. That poor bastard was just some fan with a jersey in the union.
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The guy on the right looks like oscar came into a room with a ball and a camera then said "think fast", threw the ball at his chest, then quickly snapped a pic. That poor bastard was just some fan with a jersey in the union.
That's Hot Horndogs, which seems a rather unfortunate name.
Solid with what oscar is doing here. Keep em white and off weed.
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The guy on the right looks like oscar came into a room with a ball and a camera then said "think fast", threw the ball at his chest, then quickly snapped a pic. That poor bastard was just some fan with a jersey in the union.
That's Hot Horndogs, which seems a rather unfortunate name.
Solid with what oscar is doing here. Keep em white and off weed.
Zack Winter
SNOWCOAT (SNOCOAT?)
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what happened 2 the Cinnamon guy
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what happened 2 the Cinnamon guy
Kinnamon? He's coming too. This is going to be the whitest NCAA roster since the 1950's. Tucks are going to be pulling their dicks out at the fOOD
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http://espn.go.com/blog/collegebasketballnation/post/_/id/108012/early-look-sizing-up-the-big-12 (http://espn.go.com/blog/collegebasketballnation/post/_/id/108012/early-look-sizing-up-the-big-12)
Trending down
oscar Weber has dismissed every player who has ever played at Kansas State. Michael Beasley? Done. Bill Walker? Outta here. Mitch Richmond? Gone. Kidding. But he entered the offseason with just five returning scholarship players after losing six guys, including Marcus Foster and Malek Harris, over the past year. Foster and Harris were both dismissed. Weber has seven commitments for next season. That pool features some juco guys and zero top-100 incoming freshmen. It’s a mess in Manhattan.
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Rename this board to "It’s a mess in Manhattan"
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yes
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Rename this board to "It’s a mess in Manhattan"
I think it's worse than a "mess."
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtOB18xy1oA
Thank goodness this year's team is unified in their desire for wholesome pie eating fun and hard work. #Narratives
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I know that neighborhood. eek:
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtOB18xy1oA
Thank goodness this year's team is unified in their desire for wholesome pie eating fun and hard work. #Narratives
I'm nearly astonished that nobody tore an ACL in those 3-legged races.
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I mean...
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A southwest central middle 3 legged race only involves one guy, and a muscle rip takes on a new meaning. I don't think the love each other will work.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtOB18xy1oA
Thank goodness this year's team is unified in their desire for wholesome pie eating fun and hard work. #Narratives
I just don't see our pumpkin pushers being very good this year, guys. :frown:
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We will beat Masewer Tiggies.
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This is the season oscar has a team score under 30
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This is the season oscar has a team score under 30
Woof. Can't wait lol
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This is the season oscar has a team score AVERAGE under 30
FYP. We are really not going to be worth a crap.
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Guys who tops the play hard chart this season?
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DJamer
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DJamer
Definitely, or Roh Roh
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Will be a non scholarship player. Roh-roh doesn't count in that list any longer.
Gonna win 'em all!
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DJamer is too big to dominate the Play Hard. He just won't have the stamina.
unless he lost like 35 pounds of muscle in oscar's revolutionary fitness regimen.
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DJamer is too big to dominate the Play Hard. He just won't have the stamina.
unless he lost like 35 pounds of muscle in oscar's revolutionary fitness regimen.
I wouldn't worry about weight loss. . what with all the pie eating contests and such.
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Bolden still has a cast on his wrist hernia. Hope he gets well soon.
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The gE chats are going to be something special.
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Bolden still has a cast on his wrist hernia. Hope he gets well soon.
Bolden will never play another game for the KSU Cats
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Bolden will never play another game for the KSU Cats
it really is a miracle that art got out while still healthy enough to eventually recover.
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Bolden will never play another game for the KSU Cats
it really is a miracle that art got out while still healthy enough to eventually recover.
I think he got the last of the residual holy mojo left in the fOOD from when god played there.
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I can see at least 10 non coference wins. Many are puds at home. Although I am not going to bet my left Wallie on this. These should be good games for Claws, Bullnuts, and xWhomper to bloom.
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Worse case we win 21 games and have a terrible recruiting class and can't take a step forward next year.
HOLYSHIT
and lol me not reading this thread since June
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http://twitter.com/KState_MBB/status/629774390494928896
Someone's gotta get shot over this, no?
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good grief
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Low-level management's in too.
https://instagram.com/p/6GQf_Jkt08/
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jfc what happened
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jfc what happened
The program/administration that wanted to get rid of all the bad citizens and get back to #FAMILY values is doing an N.W.A meme campaign.
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^^^ this makes sense in 2015
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Does this mean oscar will have "Go Hard Charts" for the fans? :runaway:
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I just got my email with my assigned time to upgrade or move my seats for next season. Hoping to move down from Row 12. Several seats still available in the proximity of my current location.
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Why did you renew, you're apart of the problem
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Do you guys remember how awesome sec 17 was?
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My current tix are in section 17. I'd like to just move down in that area.
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And I'd like the whole place to have reasons to get crazy again.
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Does this mean oscar will have "Go Hard Charts" for the fans? :runaway:
Willie bone time!!!
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Paying money for an entire season's tickets to watch DJamer be our best player sounds like a great time to me guys.
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And I'd like the whole place to have reasons to get crazy again.
im not trying to be a prick here Canary, but renewing tickets is not helping this cause
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And I'd like the whole place to have reasons to get crazy again.
im not trying to be a prick here Canary, but renewing tickets is not helping this cause
I understand and appreciate that perspective. I've just been attending since I could afford to have tickets. And anyone who knows me knows that I have a really competitive spirit, so I hate seeing what happened last year. I'm not a grad of KSU, but have been a fan since childhood. Some consider us less than true fans, but that's for another thread another time.
Every game is a break for me from the usual stresses that everyone faces. If I can spend a few bucks and a few hours with friends at the brams, I take advantage of it.
Again, I understand your perspective. I just have my approach to it.
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I will renew my season tix when oscar is gone and a capable coach is hired. And we had those season tix for many years.
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I'm not a grad of KSU, but have been a fan since childhood. Some consider us less than true fans.
are you townieborn?
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I'm not a grad of KSU, but have been a fan since childhood. Some consider us less than true fans.
are you townieborn?
Interesting question. That said, even if he is townieborn, he has more than an entitlement to fandom than a t-shirt fan.
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I'm not a grad of KSU, but have been a fan since childhood. Some consider us less than true fans.
are you townieborn?
Interesting question. That said, even if he is townieborn, he has more than an entitlement to fandom than a t-shirt fan.
imo, townieborn are the highest form of fans. much truer than mere graduates.
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I'm not a grad of KSU, but have been a fan since childhood. Some consider us less than true fans.
are you townieborn?
Interesting question. That said, even if he is townieborn, he has more than an entitlement to fandom than a t-shirt fan.
imo, townieborn are the highest form of fans. much truer than mere graduates.
:thumbs: That said, I'm a townie and Cat grad.
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I'm not a grad of KSU, but have been a fan since childhood. Some consider us less than true fans.
are you townieborn?
Interesting question. That said, even if he is townieborn, he has more than an entitlement to fandom than a t-shirt fan.
imo, townieborn are the highest form of fans. much truer than mere graduates.
:thumbs: That said, I'm a townie and Cat grad.
I am neither. I have always had to drive to see the Cats.
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you're an odd bird then, but true is as true does.
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good for you canary
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you're an odd bird then, but true is as true does.
My friends would agree with that.
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you're an odd bird then, but true is as true does.
My friends would agree with that.
You're from Topeka, Kaw for "Good place to grow potatoes", land.
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you're an odd bird then, but true is as true does.
My friends would agree with that.
You're from Topeka, Kaw for "Good place to grow potatoes", land.
I live in Topeka, yes.
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On a scale of 1998-2010, how angry is Sec 17 these days?
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I think one could go to every game this year getting tickets game-by-game for a total of under $100.
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I think one could go to every game this year getting tickets game-by-game for a total of under $100.
I tried that last year to get extra tickets for a friend of mine. It cost me almost $800 total for individual tickets to the games I did that. I'd rather pay for an extra season ticket than do that ever again.
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On a scale of 1998-2010, how angry is Sec 17 these days?
Very angry about the coaching and the style of play.
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so 1998, then?
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I think one could go to every game this year getting tickets game-by-game for a total of under $100.
I tried that last year to get extra tickets for a friend of mine. It cost me almost $800 total for individual tickets to the games I did that. I'd rather pay for an extra season ticket than do that ever again.
Register a new persona on the board and dedicate it to being somebody people would want to give tickets to.
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Next season K-State will show that it has enough talent that if it were coached by a competent coach they would likely make the NCAA tourney.
But they are coached by oscar Weber. So, forget about it.
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Sec 17's new flag should be a plain white one.
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Sec 17's new flag should be a plain white one.
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That literally made me laugh.
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Sec 17's new flag should be a plain white one.
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That literally made me laugh.
Same here. Still chuckling.
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Sec 17's new flag should be a plain white one.
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That literally made me laugh.
Same here. Still chuckling.
I will be looking for it in November
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:flush:
https://twitter.com/KellisRobinett/status/631526930810957825
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Good grief.
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It's a little concerning how fast I was able to go back to not giving 2 shits about Kstate basketball. Thank you oscar for giving me one less thing to think about.
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Who cares. Big Monday used to mean something 5-10 years ago, but now all games are on national TV. It's not even the only Monday night Big 12 game anymore.
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No attention taken away from whatever iteration of #TheBachelor(ette)(In Paradise) will be on during those Monday nights.
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Who cares. Big Monday used to mean something 5-10 years ago, but now all games are on national TV. It's not even the only Monday night Big 12 game anymore.
Look at oscar getting you to rationalize this. It's working.
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Who cares. Big Monday used to mean something 5-10 years ago, but now all games are on national TV. It's not even the only Monday night Big 12 game anymore.
Look at oscar getting you to rationalize this. It's working.
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No, I really couldn't care less. 8pm weekday games get over too late anyways (cc: steve dave)
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Well yeah, my detox days are Sunday, Monday, and Tuesday. So games on those nights don't work for me. Watching K-State basketball sober these days is not an option anymore.
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Success was a blip on the radar. :goodbyecruelworld:
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Who cares. Big Monday used to mean something 5-10 years ago, but now all games are on national TV. It's not even the only Monday night Big 12 game anymore.
Look at oscar getting you to rationalize this. It's working.
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No, I really couldn't care less. 8pm weekday games get over too late anyways (cc: steve dave)
It's not about the game being on nationally. It's about sports people deciding that your team is not fun to watch nor good enough to be considered one of the premier weekly games.
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Who cares. Big Monday used to mean something 5-10 years ago, but now all games are on national TV. It's not even the only Monday night Big 12 game anymore.
Look at oscar getting you to rationalize this. It's working.
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No, I really couldn't care less. 8pm weekday games get over too late anyways (cc: steve dave)
It's not about the game being on nationally. It's about sports people deciding that your team is not fun to watch nor good enough to be considered one of the premier weekly games.
This.
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No attention taken away from whatever iteration of #TheBachelor(ette)(In Paradise) will be on during those Monday nights.
:thumbs:
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I think one could go to every game this year getting tickets game-by-game for a total of under $100.
I tried that last year to get extra tickets for a friend of mine. It cost me almost $800 total for individual tickets to the games I did that. I'd rather pay for an extra season ticket than do that ever again.
Register a new persona on the board and dedicate it to being somebody people would want to give tickets to.
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damn
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Probably won't get many ESPN2 games either.
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we are Texas Tech
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who?
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Probably won't get many ESPN2 games either.
yep, I would set the o/u on 6 pm ESPNU tips at 2.5
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Probably won't get many ESPN2 games either.
yep, I would set the o/u on 6 pm ESPNU tips at 2.5
Once we finish the non-com undefeated the network will be finding a spot for us. :)
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Probably won't get many ESPN2 games either.
yep, I would set the o/u on 6 pm ESPNU tips at 2.5
Once we finish the non-com undefeated the network will be finding a spot for us. :)
Lol
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Probably won't get many ESPN2 games either.
yep, I would set the o/u on 6 pm ESPNU tips at 2.5
Once we finish the non-com undefeated the network will be finding a spot for us. :)
Lol
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Probably won't get many ESPN2 games either.
yep, I would set the o/u on 6 pm ESPNU tips at 2.5
Once we finish the non-com undefeated the network will be finding a spot for us. :)
Lol
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Lol
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Not even ESPNDeportes will want to broadcast our pumpkin pushers come December. :frown:
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ESPNDeportus
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oscar and all his low-grade pumpkin pushers will only be shown on ESPNDe-Poor-Taste
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Trying to make pumpkin pushers a thing, guys. See?
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Last year we had the piss poorest guards in the Big 12 who couldn't pass worth a dang and motion to them was just drive to the hoop. We had no height. Big was made too fat by Twocoaches. An our star Marcus was a fat loafing pothead. Claws, Bullnuts, xWhomper, and DJamer bring needed height and even Big Meatoops skinnier. Brown will make us forget weedman.
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Last year we had the piss poorest guards in the Big 12 who couldn't pass worth a dang and motion to them was just drive to the hoop. We had no height. Big was made too fat by Twocoaches. An our star Marcus was a fat loafing pothead. Claws, Bullnuts, xWhomper, and DJamer bring needed height and even Big Meatoops skinnier. Brown will make us forget weedman.
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Maybe not the right thread for this, but I went on to look at options for moving down closer to the floor for this season. There are no available seats (at least not two seats) in sections 16, 17, 18 available in front of my row. I guess there are folks still buying tickets for this season. I am staying where I am in Section 17.
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Maybe not the right thread for this, but I went on to look at options for moving down closer to the floor for this season. There are no available seats (at least not two seats) in sections 16, 17, 18 available in front of my row. I guess there are folks still buying tickets for this season. I am staying where I am in Section 17.
Probably just putting a tarp over them
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Maybe not the right thread for this, but I went on to look at options for moving down closer to the floor for this season. There are no available seats (at least not two seats) in sections 16, 17, 18 available in front of my row. I guess there are folks still buying tickets for this season. I am staying where I am in Section 17.
if you don't mind having to stand because of the students Sec 18 is the bsith
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Maybe not the right thread for this, but I went on to look at options for moving down closer to the floor for this season. There are no available seats (at least not two seats) in sections 16, 17, 18 available in front of my row. I guess there are folks still buying tickets for this season. I am staying where I am in Section 17.
if you don't mind having to stand because of the students Sec 18 is the bsith
I don't mind standing during the game. I am in row 12 and have to stand for most of every game.
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And i am too old to stand with students. I just enjoy watching them during games. They have lots of fun.
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So I'm at the volleyball match and they show the men's basketball season ticket promo and we ISU Footballed it, not a single clip of basketball to be seen.
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What is there to show? DJamer's 1.5 ppg?
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Or maybe DJamer tripping over his feet and almost grabbing that rebound?
BUT OH WHAT HEART HE SHOWED!
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It's artistic tho, so we have that
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They should just go ahead and show a bunch of Foster highlights.
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Isn't it that video that was out a month or 2 ago about being there for the wins AND LOSSES or you're not part of the family?
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We were discussing that is obvious they edited the sound when oscar talks to take the squeakiness out. :lol: