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General Discussion => The New Joe Montgomery Birther Pit => Topic started by: star seed 7 on January 20, 2015, 08:10:39 PM
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i'm on cbs, what about u doods
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fox news
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oh good call
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sounds pretty great so far
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biden is so :lol:
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pretty great sotu sandstorm by Biden there
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that applause :lol:
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pbs
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Well the really tan guy that cries a lot is making this super awkward
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My trivia team is called the State of the Trivia Game Address
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Wow I thought that guy was Ben Franklin for a sec
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boehner looks like he's constipated
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On CBS. I think KAKE is still blacked out on Cox cable. This speech is like a 30 minute touchdown spike.
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it's 2015, it's time.
:thumbs:
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need more republican crowd shots
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Thomas Perez = total stud
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Do they have a republican section and a democrat section, then just put the green party weirdos off in the nosebleeds or something?
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a few years ago they had some thing where r's and d's buddy'd up and sat together
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going to do the watch msnbc or foxnews and dvr the other for about 30 minutes post. then :lol: at the differences.
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jill biden looks scary
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srs question, what happened to Pres. Obama's student loan deal?
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Did he raise taxes on K-S-U Wildcats family yet?
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Did he raise taxes on K-S-U Wildcats family yet?
constantly
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Did he raise taxes on K-S-U Wildcats family yet?
constantly
thanks k-s-u wildcats
:kstategrad:
jkjk
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get out the checkbook!
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wtf kind of face was pink blazer lady making?
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Free iPads courtesy of KSU Wildcats! :excited:
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scott kelly :thumbs: :thumbs: :thumbs: :thumbs: :thumbs: :thumbs:
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here we go!
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calling out russia :Wha:
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Gotta follow Russia with Facebook friending Cuba.
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Gotta follow Russia with Facebook friending Cuba.
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calling out russia :Wha:
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He's really really good when he has his teleprompter. Like BITB.
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First half hour was basically all :alleyoop:. The second half hour is much more zzzzzz and :dubious:.
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First half hour was basically all :alleyoop:. The second half hour is much more zzzzzz and :dubious:.
ya
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who's giving the response?
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"i won both of them"
oh crap, swim walk!
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"i won both of them"
oh crap, swim walk!
I don't care who you are, that was a great comeback.
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(https://unionmetrics.s3.amazonaws.com/wp/2014/03/merle-spirit.gif)
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shep smith's rundown :love:
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shep smith's rundown :love:
YES!
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Signing autographs like a true man of the people
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omg fox right now :lol:
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a tea party response too? we are so blessed
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Watching FOXnews now. Total negative, and the repub response from some senator/congresswoman from Iowa up next. DVR'n the MSNBC scoop after the local news.
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this woman is a nicebot
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Iowa senator thinks kids should have breadbags over their shoes in winter?
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:lol:
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Iowa senator thinks kids should have breadbags over their shoes in winter?
:lol:
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"It's a mindset that gave us political talking points, not serious solutions..."
pot meet kettle?
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"terrorism is also in places with white people like you"
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:lol:
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What the hell is "ISOL?"
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isil
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http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/a-cheat-sheet-for-obamas-2015-state-of-the-union-speech/
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ah, nevermind. same thing, right? never heard that moniker.
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ya
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Still FOXing. Paul Ryan is kind of a boss.
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I cracked up every time he said they have "reduced deficits".
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I like the part(s) where he bragged about the economy, when he has opposed everything that has helped this slow, feeble recovery. He opposed expanding oil and gas production, but American production expanded anyway on private land, helping to reduce prices (not just of oil, but throughout the entire economy) and add jobs. He fought for "cap and trade," more spending, and higher taxes and has been mostly blocked by the GOP. But yeah Obama, take a lap for the amazing economic recovery your policies are like totally responsible for.
I expecially liked the term "middle class economics" last night. :lol: I'm not sure what that's supposed to mean, but I think one thing is pretty clear: Obama is a man of the people and middle class.
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I like the part(s) where he bragged about the economy, when he has opposed everything that has helped this slow, feeble recovery. He opposed expanding oil and gas production, but American production expanded anyway on private land, helping to reduce prices (not just of oil, but throughout the entire economy) and add jobs. He fought for "cap and trade," more spending, and higher taxes and has been mostly blocked by the GOP. But yeah Obama, take a lap for the amazing economic recovery your policies are like totally responsible for.
I expecially liked the term "middle class economics" last night. :lol: I'm not sure what that's supposed to mean, but I think one thiong is pretty clear: Obama is a man of the people and middle class.
If oil and gas is going to expand on private land anyway, then I would prefer that over giving them free access to federal land.
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I like the part(s) where he bragged about the economy, when he has opposed everything that has helped this slow, feeble recovery. He opposed expanding oil and gas production, but American production expanded anyway on private land, helping to reduce prices (not just of oil, but throughout the entire economy) and add jobs. He fought for "cap and trade," more spending, and higher taxes and has been mostly blocked by the GOP. But yeah Obama, take a lap for the amazing economic recovery your policies are like totally responsible for.
I expecially liked the term "middle class economics" last night. :lol: I'm not sure what that's supposed to mean, but I think one thing is pretty clear: Obama is a man of the people and middle class.
Sounds like you liked the speech then
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I really hope the EPA continues to suckle to their buddies at the NRDC and The Sierra Club and continues their little "Sue and Settle" schemes . . . that's a huge boon to the economy and to . . . Regulation Nation.
Nothing says "most transparent administration in history" than behind closed door "settlements" and new policies derived with no Congressional Oversight.
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Cong. Tim Huelskamp @CongHuelskamp · 13h 13 hours ago
Your life matters, unless you have not been born yet. #SOTU
Cong. Tim Huelskamp @CongHuelskamp · 13h 13 hours ago
“The single biggest threat to national security is the national debt” -Navy Adm. Mike Mullen #SOTU
Cong. Tim Huelskamp @CongHuelskamp · 14h 14 hours ago
Taxing accumulated wealth? Really? A federal government that steals your IRA and raids your bank account? I don’t think so. #SOTU
Cong. Tim Huelskamp @CongHuelskamp · 14h 14 hours ago
.@BarackObama dissed the #Veterans, bypassing Phoenix on his trip earlier this month. Was he just too busy? #SOTU
Cong. Tim Huelskamp @CongHuelskamp · 14h 14 hours ago
To paraphrase Friedman, there is no such thing as ‘Free’ college http://goo.gl/L3fJ8v #SOTU
YouTube
Cong. Tim Huelskamp @CongHuelskamp · 14h 14 hours ago
.@BarackObama's policies mean one thing....more spending, more taxes, more debt. #SOTU #middleclasseconomics
Cong. Tim Huelskamp @CongHuelskamp · 14h 14 hours ago
.@BarackObama is talking about paid leave – something he knows a lot about. Would this include golf? #SOTU
Cong. Tim Huelskamp @CongHuelskamp · 14h 14 hours ago
Under @BarackObama’s rule, 18.3 million more Americans are on food stamps. #SOTU #middleclasseconomics
Cong. Tim Huelskamp @CongHuelskamp · 14h 14 hours ago
Under @BarackObama’s rule, he has burdened our children and grandchildren with $7.45 TRILLION in debt. #SOTU #middleclasseconomics
Cong. Tim Huelskamp @CongHuelskamp · 14h 14 hours ago
Under @BarackObama’s rule, we have 21.9 million who want a full-time job but can't get one. #SOTU #middleclasseconomics
Cong. Tim Huelskamp @CongHuelskamp · 14h 14 hours ago
Despite @BarackObama's best efforts, energy sector has exploded. #SOTU
Cong. Tim Huelskamp @CongHuelskamp · 16h 16 hours ago
Kansans are looking forward to a really important event tonight. Go Wildcats! @kstatesports #SOTU
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Cong. Tim Huelskamp @CongHuelskamp · 13h 13 hours ago
Your life matters, unless you have not been born yet. #SOTU
Cong. Tim Huelskamp @CongHuelskamp · 13h 13 hours ago
“The single biggest threat to national security is the national debt” -Navy Adm. Mike Mullen #SOTU
Cong. Tim Huelskamp @CongHuelskamp · 14h 14 hours ago
Taxing accumulated wealth? Really? A federal government that steals your IRA and raids your bank account? I don’t think so. #SOTU
Cong. Tim Huelskamp @CongHuelskamp · 14h 14 hours ago
.@BarackObama dissed the #Veterans, bypassing Phoenix on his trip earlier this month. Was he just too busy? #SOTU
Cong. Tim Huelskamp @CongHuelskamp · 14h 14 hours ago
To paraphrase Friedman, there is no such thing as ‘Free’ college http://goo.gl/L3fJ8v #SOTU
YouTube
Cong. Tim Huelskamp @CongHuelskamp · 14h 14 hours ago
.@BarackObama's policies mean one thing....more spending, more taxes, more debt. #SOTU #middleclasseconomics
Cong. Tim Huelskamp @CongHuelskamp · 14h 14 hours ago
.@BarackObama is talking about paid leave – something he knows a lot about. Would this include golf? #SOTU
Cong. Tim Huelskamp @CongHuelskamp · 14h 14 hours ago
Under @BarackObama’s rule, 18.3 million more Americans are on food stamps. #SOTU #middleclasseconomics
Cong. Tim Huelskamp @CongHuelskamp · 14h 14 hours ago
Under @BarackObama’s rule, he has burdened our children and grandchildren with $7.45 TRILLION in debt. #SOTU #middleclasseconomics
Cong. Tim Huelskamp @CongHuelskamp · 14h 14 hours ago
Under @BarackObama’s rule, we have 21.9 million who want a full-time job but can't get one. #SOTU #middleclasseconomics
Cong. Tim Huelskamp @CongHuelskamp · 14h 14 hours ago
Despite @BarackObama's best efforts, energy sector has exploded. #SOTU
Cong. Tim Huelskamp @CongHuelskamp · 16h 16 hours ago
Kansans are looking forward to a really important event tonight. Go Wildcats! @kstatesports #SOTU
Confession - I am Congressman Tim Huelskamp, and I am a twitter warrior.
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Cong. Tim Huelskamp @CongHuelskamp · 13h 13 hours ago
Your life matters, unless you have not been born yet. #SOTU
Cong. Tim Huelskamp @CongHuelskamp · 13h 13 hours ago
“The single biggest threat to national security is the national debt” -Navy Adm. Mike Mullen #SOTU
Cong. Tim Huelskamp @CongHuelskamp · 14h 14 hours ago
Taxing accumulated wealth? Really? A federal government that steals your IRA and raids your bank account? I don’t think so. #SOTU
Cong. Tim Huelskamp @CongHuelskamp · 14h 14 hours ago
.@BarackObama dissed the #Veterans, bypassing Phoenix on his trip earlier this month. Was he just too busy? #SOTU
Cong. Tim Huelskamp @CongHuelskamp · 14h 14 hours ago
To paraphrase Friedman, there is no such thing as ‘Free’ college http://goo.gl/L3fJ8v #SOTU
YouTube
Cong. Tim Huelskamp @CongHuelskamp · 14h 14 hours ago
.@BarackObama's policies mean one thing....more spending, more taxes, more debt. #SOTU #middleclasseconomics
Cong. Tim Huelskamp @CongHuelskamp · 14h 14 hours ago
.@BarackObama is talking about paid leave – something he knows a lot about. Would this include golf? #SOTU
Cong. Tim Huelskamp @CongHuelskamp · 14h 14 hours ago
Under @BarackObama’s rule, 18.3 million more Americans are on food stamps. #SOTU #middleclasseconomics
Cong. Tim Huelskamp @CongHuelskamp · 14h 14 hours ago
Under @BarackObama’s rule, he has burdened our children and grandchildren with $7.45 TRILLION in debt. #SOTU #middleclasseconomics
Cong. Tim Huelskamp @CongHuelskamp · 14h 14 hours ago
Under @BarackObama’s rule, we have 21.9 million who want a full-time job but can't get one. #SOTU #middleclasseconomics
Cong. Tim Huelskamp @CongHuelskamp · 14h 14 hours ago
Despite @BarackObama's best efforts, energy sector has exploded. #SOTU
Cong. Tim Huelskamp @CongHuelskamp · 16h 16 hours ago
Kansans are looking forward to a really important event tonight. Go Wildcats! @kstatesports #SOTU
Chruth Bombs!
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Hueth Bombs
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I like how b.o. waited until he was completely mamed and lame duck to start pushing for all these dumbass, lowest common denominator pandering programs. It's like the only thing he's fighting for anymore is an approval rating above W's. It's just so pathetic.
I also like how he's "calling on this Congress" to do this and that, like the overwhelming majority of them weren't put into Congress to do the opposite of whatever he wanted.
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But you college age kids better not expect a discount at the Obama presidential library, you'll have a free education so you should have plenty of jack . . . and since you got a free education you'll want to come read the memoirs and see the exhibits of your hero.
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You are so weird dax
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I like how b.o. waited until he was completely mamed and lame duck to start pushing for all these dumbass, lowest common denominator pandering programs. It's like the only thing he's fighting for anymore is an approval rating above W's. It's just so pathetic.
I also like how he's "calling on this Congress" to do this and that, like the overwhelming majority of them weren't put into Congress to do the opposite of whatever he wanted.
I'm not even sure he cares so much about his approval rating - it's more like he's basically decided his last two years will be a massive F-You to the GOP. He's just trolling them now at every opportunity. Last night, for example, he invited an illegal immigrant to sit in the Lenny Skutnik seats - I guess he's a "national hero" for breaking our immigration laws and then getting to stay under an unconsitutional blanket amnesty by executive action - err, memo.
He fully intends to veto popular pieces of legislation like the Keystone pipeline. That won't help his approval rating but, again, I don't think he gives a crap. It also won't help Hillary, and he probably relishes the idea of sinking her campaign yet again.
It's going to be a very ugly next two years. Good job, America.
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Immigrant haters are just awful people.
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Immigrant haters are just awful people.
I'm a big fan of legal immigrants. We need more of them (people who actually went through a legal process to get here - not just snuck in and then were granted amnesty). I hink people who characterize anti-illegal immigration people as "immigrant haters" are just awful people.
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Illegal immigrants are criminals, no doubt, but I view their crime slightly less seriously than I view pirating music.
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Illegal immigrants are criminals, no doubt, but I view their crime slightly less seriously than I view pirating music.
We spend billions on free education, childcare, healthcare, and other forms of welfare for the millions of illegal immigrants, not to mention the diseases (no vacinations) and narcotics that cross the border with them. I'd say that's a bigger problem than music piracy. Those are some of the reasons for actual enforcement of a legal immigration system.
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Illegal immigrants are criminals, no doubt, but I view their crime slightly less seriously than I view pirating music.
We spend billions on free education, childcare, healthcare, and other forms of welfare for the millions of illegal immigrants, not to mention the diseases (no vacinations) and narcotics that cross the border with them. I'd say that's a bigger problem than music piracy. Those are some of the reasons for actual enforcement of a legal immigration system.
They generate billions in revenue, so no big deal.
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But royalties as are taxed as income!!!!
I would bet a kabagillion dollars that welfare and illegals cost more than the revenue it generates, by a substantial margin. Particularly because the primary source of revenue for the federal government is income tax receipts and nobody on welfare or here illegally pays income taxes.
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But royalties as are taxed as income!!!!
I would bet a kabagillion dollars that welfare and illegals cost more than the revenue it generates, by a substantial margin. Particularly because the primary source of revenue for the federal government is income tax receipts and nobody on welfare or here illegally pays income taxes.
Their employers pay income taxes.
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Immigrant haters are just awful people.
I'm a big fan of legal immigrants. We need more of them (people who actually went through a legal process to get here - not just snuck in and then were granted amnesty). I hink people who characterize anti-illegal immigration people as "immigrant haters" are just awful people.
I don't think you understand the whole brought here by your parents thingy.
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Immigrant haters are just awful people.
I'm a big fan of legal immigrants. We need more of them (people who actually went through a legal process to get here - not just snuck in and then were granted amnesty). I hink people who characterize anti-illegal immigration people as "immigrant haters" are just awful people.
I don't think you understand the whole brought here by your parents thingy.
Yeah, I understand the "brought here by their parents" and "shipped here by the parents" thingies. that doesn't change my mind. It incentivizes a lawless immigration system. But that's libtardism for ya, incentivize bad decisions and lawlessness, disincentivize good decisions.
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I would hardly call immigrating to the US from Mexico or central America a bad decision.
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I would hardly call immigrating to the US from Mexico or central America a bad decision.
Lol
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one thing immigrant haters always say is that they'd like to make it easier to immigrate legally but I don't remember ever seeing anything that makes legal immigration easier on the table from immigrant haters
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Immigrant haters are just awful people.
I'm a big fan of legal immigrants. We need more of them (people who actually went through a legal process to get here - not just snuck in and then were granted amnesty). I hink people who characterize anti-illegal immigration people as "immigrant haters" are just awful people.
I don't think you understand the whole brought here by your parents thingy.
Yeah, I understand the "brought here by their parents" and "shipped here by the parents" thingies. that doesn't change my mind. It incentivizes a lawless immigration system. But that's libtardism for ya, incentivize bad decisions and lawlessness, disincentivize good decisions.
i bet it's a great family story about how your ancestors got here.
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one thing immigrant haters always say is that they'd like to make it easier to immigrate legally but I don't remember ever seeing anything that makes legal immigration easier on the table from immigrant haters
Try reading something other than slate
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Immigrant haters are just awful people.
I'm a big fan of legal immigrants. We need more of them (people who actually went through a legal process to get here - not just snuck in and then were granted amnesty). I hink people who characterize anti-illegal immigration people as "immigrant haters" are just awful people.
I don't think you understand the whole brought here by your parents thingy.
Yeah, I understand the "brought here by their parents" and "shipped here by the parents" thingies. that doesn't change my mind. It incentivizes a lawless immigration system. But that's libtardism for ya, incentivize bad decisions and lawlessness, disincentivize good decisions.
i bet it's a great family story about how your ancestors got here.
I actually do have a pretty great family immigration story but for purposes of this discussion I'll just sum it up as "legally" and "before we were signing immigrants up for welfare."
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one thing immigrant haters always say is that they'd like to make it easier to immigrate legally but I don't remember ever seeing anything that makes legal immigration easier on the table from immigrant haters
I don't know whether anyone in the GOP has offered such legislation, but I'll agree with you that (1) I haven't seen it, and (2) the pubtards have failed miserably at immigration proposals. Many seem to want amnesty as bad as the libtards, and others don't seem to have any solution other than the "build the fence" talking point. Speaking of which, have you seen the Houses latest immigration bill proposal? JFC. :facepalm:
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I would hardly call immigrating to the US from Mexico or central America a bad decision.
Nice. I was talking about from our perspective, not theirs, though some dead kids floating in the rio grande suggests it may be a bad decision all around.
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The dead kids suggest it's a bad decision to have any immigration barriers
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Immigrant haters are just awful people.
I'm a big fan of legal immigrants. We need more of them (people who actually went through a legal process to get here - not just snuck in and then were granted amnesty). I hink people who characterize anti-illegal immigration people as "immigrant haters" are just awful people.
I don't think you understand the whole brought here by your parents thingy.
Yeah, I understand the "brought here by their parents" and "shipped here by the parents" thingies. that doesn't change my mind. It incentivizes a lawless immigration system. But that's libtardism for ya, incentivize bad decisions and lawlessness, disincentivize good decisions.
i bet it's a great family story about how your ancestors got here.
I actually do have a pretty great family immigration story but for purposes of this discussion I'll just sum it up as "legally" and "before we were signing immigrants up for welfare."
I enjoy it when people proudly proclaim their ancestors came here legally when any white person could come here legally until the 1920's
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Immigrant haters are just awful people.
I'm a big fan of legal immigrants. We need more of them (people who actually went through a legal process to get here - not just snuck in and then were granted amnesty). I hink people who characterize anti-illegal immigration people as "immigrant haters" are just awful people.
I don't think you understand the whole brought here by your parents thingy.
Yeah, I understand the "brought here by their parents" and "shipped here by the parents" thingies. that doesn't change my mind. It incentivizes a lawless immigration system. But that's libtardism for ya, incentivize bad decisions and lawlessness, disincentivize good decisions.
i bet it's a great family story about how your ancestors got here.
I actually do have a pretty great family immigration story but for purposes of this discussion I'll just sum it up as "legally" and "before we were signing immigrants up for welfare."
I enjoy it when people proudly proclaim their ancestors came here legally when any white person could come here legally until the 1920's
You mean back before we had a population of 350mil and were signing everyone and their extended families up for welfare? Yeah, we could probably afford looser immigration back then. Not that immigration didn't have constraints even back then. You had to demonstrate a trade, and pass a medical screening. Immigrants with infectious disease were turned back all the time.
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You mean back before we had a population of 350mil and were signing everyone and their extended families up for welfare? Yeah, we could probably afford looser immigration back then. Not that immigration didn't have constraints even back then. You had to demonstrate a trade, and pass a medical screening. Immigrants with infectious disease were turned back all the time.
whoa, your ancestors demonstrated a trade, AND passed a medical screening! :eek:
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Obama's 2015 speech drew smallest #SOTU audience since 2000 http://t.co/TycwqWCeIs via @WSJPolitics
LOL. Worst since Clinton 2000 and all of W's
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You mean back before we had a population of 350mil and were signing everyone and their extended families up for welfare? Yeah, we could probably afford looser immigration back then. Not that immigration didn't have constraints even back then. You had to demonstrate a trade, and pass a medical screening. Immigrants with infectious disease were turned back all the time.
whoa, your ancestors demonstrated a trade, AND passed a medical screening! :eek:
And rusty taps out. I've made my point. It's getting libtarded in here.
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You mean back before we had a population of 350mil and were signing everyone and their extended families up for welfare? Yeah, we could probably afford looser immigration back then. Not that immigration didn't have constraints even back then. You had to demonstrate a trade, and pass a medical screening. Immigrants with infectious disease were turned back all the time.
whoa, your ancestors demonstrated a trade, AND passed a medical screening! :eek:
And rusty taps out. I've made my point. It's getting libtarded in here.
Congrats on your big win
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My grandmother traced her family tree back to the Mayflower. I thought that was really cool, but I'm not sure if I would classify it as legal immigration.
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ksuw :lol:
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After getting my heart broke listening to the BB game, I decided I needed comic relief. Obama flapping his chops and Biden jumping up and down like a horny teen at a nude beach. Obama made a lot of good sounding promises, but details scare me. The introduction of the NASA astronaut was shocking. What happened to young studs in space? Kelly looks like he could croak in space. Finally my forebearers came to North America in the 1750's, and I wonder if Indians thought they were illegal aliens.
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What if someone's ancestors immigrated with slaves? Does that mean current people should be able to immigrate with slaves too?
A lot of people in the 18th and 19th century came to the us as indentured servants. If that was okay then, why not now? Times certainly haven't changed in the immigration world.
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Slaves brought here after the slave trade ban in the early 1800's were actually the first illegal immigrants
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I just read that today
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That's an interesting yet sad tidbit
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Immigrant haters are just awful people.
I'm a big fan of legal immigrants. We need more of them (people who actually went through a legal process to get here - not just snuck in and then were granted amnesty). I hink people who characterize anti-illegal immigration people as "immigrant haters" are just awful people.
I don't think you understand the whole brought here by your parents thingy.
Yeah, I understand the "brought here by their parents" and "shipped here by the parents" thingies. that doesn't change my mind. It incentivizes a lawless immigration system. But that's libtardism for ya, incentivize bad decisions and lawlessness, disincentivize good decisions.
i bet it's a great family story about how your ancestors got here.
I actually do have a pretty great family immigration story but for purposes of this discussion I'll just sum it up as "legally" and "before we were signing immigrants up for welfare."
I enjoy it when people proudly proclaim their ancestors came here legally when any white person could come here legally until the 1920's
You mean back before we had a population of 350mil and were signing everyone and their extended families up for welfare? Yeah, we could probably afford looser immigration back then. Not that immigration didn't have constraints even back then. You had to demonstrate a trade, and pass a medical screening. Immigrants with infectious disease were turned back all the time.
Illegal immigrants don't get welfare dumbass.
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Slaves brought here after the slave trade ban in the early 1800's were actually the first illegal immigrants
Because the native Americans had no legal claims to anything because no flags and no writing.
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Immigrant haters are just awful people.
I'm a big fan of legal immigrants. We need more of them (people who actually went through a legal process to get here - not just snuck in and then were granted amnesty). I hink people who characterize anti-illegal immigration people as "immigrant haters" are just awful people.
I don't think you understand the whole brought here by your parents thingy.
Yeah, I understand the "brought here by their parents" and "shipped here by the parents" thingies. that doesn't change my mind. It incentivizes a lawless immigration system. But that's libtardism for ya, incentivize bad decisions and lawlessness, disincentivize good decisions.
i bet it's a great family story about how your ancestors got here.
I actually do have a pretty great family immigration story but for purposes of this discussion I'll just sum it up as "legally" and "before we were signing immigrants up for welfare."
I enjoy it when people proudly proclaim their ancestors came here legally when any white person could come here legally until the 1920's
You mean back before we had a population of 350mil and were signing everyone and their extended families up for welfare? Yeah, we could probably afford looser immigration back then. Not that immigration didn't have constraints even back then. You had to demonstrate a trade, and pass a medical screening. Immigrants with infectious disease were turned back all the time.
Illegal immigrants don't get welfare dumbass.
I suppose it depends upon how you define "welfare" and whether you are differentiating between what's supposed to happen and what actually happens. In reality, illegal immigrants receive plenty of public benefits, from education, healthcare, food, housing, cell phones, you name it. Pretty much any public benefit that's available is available to illegal immigrants, either legally or illegally. Funny thing is these illegal immigrants don't seem to have much qualms about whether they are legally entitled to certain benefits or not.
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Don't forget they also breathe our air too.
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Cell phones?
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Immigrant haters are just awful people.
I'm a big fan of legal immigrants. We need more of them (people who actually went through a legal process to get here - not just snuck in and then were granted amnesty). I hink people who characterize anti-illegal immigration people as "immigrant haters" are just awful people.
I don't think you understand the whole brought here by your parents thingy.
Yeah, I understand the "brought here by their parents" and "shipped here by the parents" thingies. that doesn't change my mind. It incentivizes a lawless immigration system. But that's libtardism for ya, incentivize bad decisions and lawlessness, disincentivize good decisions.
i bet it's a great family story about how your ancestors got here.
I actually do have a pretty great family immigration story but for purposes of this discussion I'll just sum it up as "legally" and "before we were signing immigrants up for welfare."
I enjoy it when people proudly proclaim their ancestors came here legally when any white person could come here legally until the 1920's
You mean back before we had a population of 350mil and were signing everyone and their extended families up for welfare? Yeah, we could probably afford looser immigration back then. Not that immigration didn't have constraints even back then. You had to demonstrate a trade, and pass a medical screening. Immigrants with infectious disease were turned back all the time.
Illegal immigrants don't get welfare dumbass.
I suppose it depends upon how you define "welfare" and whether you are differentiating between what's supposed to happen and what actually happens. In reality, illegal immigrants receive plenty of public benefits, from education, healthcare, food, housing, cell phones, you name it. Pretty much any public benefit that's available is available to illegal immigrants, either legally or illegally. Funny thing is these illegal immigrants don't seem to have much qualms about whether they are legally entitled to certain benefits or not.
They're only offered k-12 education and emergency care.
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Immigrant haters are just awful people.
I'm a big fan of legal immigrants. We need more of them (people who actually went through a legal process to get here - not just snuck in and then were granted amnesty). I hink people who characterize anti-illegal immigration people as "immigrant haters" are just awful people.
I don't think you understand the whole brought here by your parents thingy.
Yeah, I understand the "brought here by their parents" and "shipped here by the parents" thingies. that doesn't change my mind. It incentivizes a lawless immigration system. But that's libtardism for ya, incentivize bad decisions and lawlessness, disincentivize good decisions.
i bet it's a great family story about how your ancestors got here.
I actually do have a pretty great family immigration story but for purposes of this discussion I'll just sum it up as "legally" and "before we were signing immigrants up for welfare."
I enjoy it when people proudly proclaim their ancestors came here legally when any white person could come here legally until the 1920's
You mean back before we had a population of 350mil and were signing everyone and their extended families up for welfare? Yeah, we could probably afford looser immigration back then. Not that immigration didn't have constraints even back then. You had to demonstrate a trade, and pass a medical screening. Immigrants with infectious disease were turned back all the time.
Illegal immigrants don't get welfare dumbass.
I suppose it depends upon how you define "welfare" and whether you are differentiating between what's supposed to happen and what actually happens. In reality, illegal immigrants receive plenty of public benefits, from education, healthcare, food, housing, cell phones, you name it. Pretty much any public benefit that's available is available to illegal immigrants, either legally or illegally. Funny thing is these illegal immigrants don't seem to have much qualms about whether they are legally entitled to certain benefits or not.
They're only offered k-12 education and emergency care.
Ok then, so you're just going to ignore my point about there being a difference between what's legally and illegally being received. Ok then, proceed with denying reality.
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Cell phones?
I think he meant Obamaphones.
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Slaves brought here after the slave trade ban in the early 1800's were actually the first illegal immigrants
Because the native Americans had no legal claims to anything because no flags and no writing.
If mexico conquers the usa, I'm sure we won't call them illegal immigrants (maybe as a joke)
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Obama's 2015 speech drew smallest #SOTU audience since 2000 http://t.co/TycwqWCeIs via @WSJPolitics
LOL. Worst since Clinton 2000 and all of W's
Huge stud.
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Cell phones?
I think he meant Obamaphones.
lol
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Immigrant haters are just awful people.
I'm a big fan of legal immigrants. We need more of them (people who actually went through a legal process to get here - not just snuck in and then were granted amnesty). I hink people who characterize anti-illegal immigration people as "immigrant haters" are just awful people.
I don't think you understand the whole brought here by your parents thingy.
Yeah, I understand the "brought here by their parents" and "shipped here by the parents" thingies. that doesn't change my mind. It incentivizes a lawless immigration system. But that's libtardism for ya, incentivize bad decisions and lawlessness, disincentivize good decisions.
i bet it's a great family story about how your ancestors got here.
I actually do have a pretty great family immigration story but for purposes of this discussion I'll just sum it up as "legally" and "before we were signing immigrants up for welfare."
I enjoy it when people proudly proclaim their ancestors came here legally when any white person could come here legally until the 1920's
You mean back before we had a population of 350mil and were signing everyone and their extended families up for welfare? Yeah, we could probably afford looser immigration back then. Not that immigration didn't have constraints even back then. You had to demonstrate a trade, and pass a medical screening. Immigrants with infectious disease were turned back all the time.
Illegal immigrants don't get welfare dumbass.
And illegal immigrants don't use fake documents and social security numbers either. :rolleyes:
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Immigrant haters are just awful people.
I'm a big fan of legal immigrants. We need more of them (people who actually went through a legal process to get here - not just snuck in and then were granted amnesty). I hink people who characterize anti-illegal immigration people as "immigrant haters" are just awful people.
I don't think you understand the whole brought here by your parents thingy.
Yeah, I understand the "brought here by their parents" and "shipped here by the parents" thingies. that doesn't change my mind. It incentivizes a lawless immigration system. But that's libtardism for ya, incentivize bad decisions and lawlessness, disincentivize good decisions.
i bet it's a great family story about how your ancestors got here.
I actually do have a pretty great family immigration story but for purposes of this discussion I'll just sum it up as "legally" and "before we were signing immigrants up for welfare."
I enjoy it when people proudly proclaim their ancestors came here legally when any white person could come here legally until the 1920's
You mean back before we had a population of 350mil and were signing everyone and their extended families up for welfare? Yeah, we could probably afford looser immigration back then. Not that immigration didn't have constraints even back then. You had to demonstrate a trade, and pass a medical screening. Immigrants with infectious disease were turned back all the time.
Illegal immigrants don't get welfare dumbass.
And illegal immigrants don't use fake documents and social security numbers either. :rolleyes:
Of course they don't. That would be illegal so, obviously, they don't do that.
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KU really rolled out the red carpet for the obamatard. They've converted their pole shed football room into a speech giving locale. So poor and stupid.
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LOL
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Why on earth would they not use Allen Field House?
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Slaves brought here after the slave trade ban in the early 1800's were actually the first illegal immigrants
:thumbs:
Yay 14th amendment.
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KU really rolled out the red carpet for the obamatard. They've converted their pole shed football room into a speech giving locale. So poor and stupid.
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fm.kwch.com%2Fimage%2Fview%2F-%2F30855880%2FhighRes%2F1%2F-%2Fmaxh%2F360%2Fmaxw%2F640%2F-%2Fie2acy%2F-%2FIMG-0612-JPG.jpg&hash=4931ca5d5dda6ece9b60abaefd5f7ecc56b20a0a)
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LOL
To be fair. It's probably barely been used. I bet it looks pretty nice in there. :D
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Why on earth would they not use Allen Field House?
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Not every institution can have McCain for Landon Lecture-style events. So blessed.
They probably wanted to host it at the Dole Center, but Obama refused because he's that thin-skinned. :lol:
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Why on earth would they not use Allen Field House?
They couldn't even fill the football barn to listen to that moron drone on. The real question is why they didn't use one of their shitty lecture halls.
Plus, the president is too much of a ego maniac to be seen in a place with thousands of empty seats.
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Why on earth would they not use Allen Field House?
Bill is a 'pub, probs.
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Why on earth would they not use Allen Field House?
Bill is a 'pub, probs.
Slave owners were all democrats.
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Why on earth would they not use Allen Field House?
Bill is a 'pub, probs.
Slave owners were all democrats.
:D
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Bill's a neocon.
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Immigrant haters are just awful people.
I'm a big fan of legal immigrants. We need more of them (people who actually went through a legal process to get here - not just snuck in and then were granted amnesty). I hink people who characterize anti-illegal immigration people as "immigrant haters" are just awful people.
I don't think you understand the whole brought here by your parents thingy.
Yeah, I understand the "brought here by their parents" and "shipped here by the parents" thingies. that doesn't change my mind. It incentivizes a lawless immigration system. But that's libtardism for ya, incentivize bad decisions and lawlessness, disincentivize good decisions.
i bet it's a great family story about how your ancestors got here.
I actually do have a pretty great family immigration story but for purposes of this discussion I'll just sum it up as "legally" and "before we were signing immigrants up for welfare."
I enjoy it when people proudly proclaim their ancestors came here legally when any white person could come here legally until the 1920's
You mean back before we had a population of 350mil and were signing everyone and their extended families up for welfare? Yeah, we could probably afford looser immigration back then. Not that immigration didn't have constraints even back then. You had to demonstrate a trade, and pass a medical screening. Immigrants with infectious disease were turned back all the time.
Illegal immigrants don't get welfare dumbass.
I suppose it depends upon how you define "welfare" and whether you are differentiating between what's supposed to happen and what actually happens. In reality, illegal immigrants receive plenty of public benefits, from education, healthcare, food, housing, cell phones, you name it. Pretty much any public benefit that's available is available to illegal immigrants, either legally or illegally. Funny thing is these illegal immigrants don't seem to have much qualms about whether they are legally entitled to certain benefits or not.
They're only offered k-12 education and emergency care.
Ok then, so you're just going to ignore my point about there being a difference between what's legally and illegally being received. Ok then, proceed with denying reality.
If they're breaking the law in regards to services they are not entitled to then charge and deport. If I'm not mistaken, enforcement of this happens.
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Immigrant haters are just awful people.
I'm a big fan of legal immigrants. We need more of them (people who actually went through a legal process to get here - not just snuck in and then were granted amnesty). I hink people who characterize anti-illegal immigration people as "immigrant haters" are just awful people.
I don't think you understand the whole brought here by your parents thingy.
Yeah, I understand the "brought here by their parents" and "shipped here by the parents" thingies. that doesn't change my mind. It incentivizes a lawless immigration system. But that's libtardism for ya, incentivize bad decisions and lawlessness, disincentivize good decisions.
i bet it's a great family story about how your ancestors got here.
I actually do have a pretty great family immigration story but for purposes of this discussion I'll just sum it up as "legally" and "before we were signing immigrants up for welfare."
I enjoy it when people proudly proclaim their ancestors came here legally when any white person could come here legally until the 1920's
You mean back before we had a population of 350mil and were signing everyone and their extended families up for welfare? Yeah, we could probably afford looser immigration back then. Not that immigration didn't have constraints even back then. You had to demonstrate a trade, and pass a medical screening. Immigrants with infectious disease were turned back all the time.
Illegal immigrants don't get welfare dumbass.
And illegal immigrants don't use fake documents and social security numbers either. :rolleyes:
Of course they don't. That would be illegal so, obviously, they don't do that.
Then demand employers stop taking them to use as legitimate documentation to work in this country.
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Immigrant haters are just awful people.
I'm a big fan of legal immigrants. We need more of them (people who actually went through a legal process to get here - not just snuck in and then were granted amnesty). I hink people who characterize anti-illegal immigration people as "immigrant haters" are just awful people.
I don't think you understand the whole brought here by your parents thingy.
Yeah, I understand the "brought here by their parents" and "shipped here by the parents" thingies. that doesn't change my mind. It incentivizes a lawless immigration system. But that's libtardism for ya, incentivize bad decisions and lawlessness, disincentivize good decisions.
i bet it's a great family story about how your ancestors got here.
I actually do have a pretty great family immigration story but for purposes of this discussion I'll just sum it up as "legally" and "before we were signing immigrants up for welfare."
I enjoy it when people proudly proclaim their ancestors came here legally when any white person could come here legally until the 1920's
You mean back before we had a population of 350mil and were signing everyone and their extended families up for welfare? Yeah, we could probably afford looser immigration back then. Not that immigration didn't have constraints even back then. You had to demonstrate a trade, and pass a medical screening. Immigrants with infectious disease were turned back all the time.
Illegal immigrants don't get welfare dumbass.
And illegal immigrants don't use fake documents and social security numbers either. :rolleyes:
Of course they don't. That would be illegal so, obviously, they don't do that.
Then demand employers stop taking them to use as legitimate documentation to work in this country.
This has always been the No. 1 idea imo. Just fine the crap out of business owners who don't do their due diligence when hiring. Throw them in jail on repeated offenses, large-scale neglect of the law.
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Yes, forcing private citizens to do the work the federal government is supposed to do under threat of civil and criminal penalties is always the best way to go. This allows the fed to preserve precious resources to deal with pressing needs like free community college and partisan IRS auditing.
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Immigrant haters are just awful people.
I'm a big fan of legal immigrants. We need more of them (people who actually went through a legal process to get here - not just snuck in and then were granted amnesty). I hink people who characterize anti-illegal immigration people as "immigrant haters" are just awful people.
I don't think you understand the whole brought here by your parents thingy.
Yeah, I understand the "brought here by their parents" and "shipped here by the parents" thingies. that doesn't change my mind. It incentivizes a lawless immigration system. But that's libtardism for ya, incentivize bad decisions and lawlessness, disincentivize good decisions.
i bet it's a great family story about how your ancestors got here.
I actually do have a pretty great family immigration story but for purposes of this discussion I'll just sum it up as "legally" and "before we were signing immigrants up for welfare."
I enjoy it when people proudly proclaim their ancestors came here legally when any white person could come here legally until the 1920's
You mean back before we had a population of 350mil and were signing everyone and their extended families up for welfare? Yeah, we could probably afford looser immigration back then. Not that immigration didn't have constraints even back then. You had to demonstrate a trade, and pass a medical screening. Immigrants with infectious disease were turned back all the time.
Illegal immigrants don't get welfare dumbass.
And illegal immigrants don't use fake documents and social security numbers either. :rolleyes:
Of course they don't. That would be illegal so, obviously, they don't do that.
Then demand employers stop taking them to use as legitimate documentation to work in this country.
This has always been the No. 1 idea imo. Just fine the crap out of business owners who don't do their due diligence when hiring. Throw them in jail on repeated offenses, large-scale neglect of the law.
That's a great way to put most farmers out of business and increase construction costs.
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Obama's 2015 speech drew smallest #SOTU audience since 2000 http://t.co/TycwqWCeIs via @WSJPolitics
He's just so irrelevant, it's awesome
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Yes, forcing private citizens to do the work the federal government is supposed to do under threat of civil and criminal penalties is always the best way to go. This allows the fed to preserve precious resources to deal with pressing needs like free community college and partisan IRS auditing.
You act like these employers are so innocent. You do know employers advertise jobs in Mexico right?
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Immigrant haters are just awful people.
I'm a big fan of legal immigrants. We need more of them (people who actually went through a legal process to get here - not just snuck in and then were granted amnesty). I hink people who characterize anti-illegal immigration people as "immigrant haters" are just awful people.
I don't think you understand the whole brought here by your parents thingy.
Yeah, I understand the "brought here by their parents" and "shipped here by the parents" thingies. that doesn't change my mind. It incentivizes a lawless immigration system. But that's libtardism for ya, incentivize bad decisions and lawlessness, disincentivize good decisions.
i bet it's a great family story about how your ancestors got here.
I actually do have a pretty great family immigration story but for purposes of this discussion I'll just sum it up as "legally" and "before we were signing immigrants up for welfare."
I enjoy it when people proudly proclaim their ancestors came here legally when any white person could come here legally until the 1920's
You mean back before we had a population of 350mil and were signing everyone and their extended families up for welfare? Yeah, we could probably afford looser immigration back then. Not that immigration didn't have constraints even back then. You had to demonstrate a trade, and pass a medical screening. Immigrants with infectious disease were turned back all the time.
Illegal immigrants don't get welfare dumbass.
And illegal immigrants don't use fake documents and social security numbers either. :rolleyes:
Of course they don't. That would be illegal so, obviously, they don't do that.
Then demand employers stop taking them to use as legitimate documentation to work in this country.
This has always been the No. 1 idea imo. Just fine the crap out of business owners who don't do their due diligence when hiring. Throw them in jail on repeated offenses, large-scale neglect of the law.
That's a great way to put most farmers out of business and increase construction costs.
Hence the need for reform.
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Yes, forcing private citizens to do the work the federal government is supposed to do under threat of civil and criminal penalties is always the best way to go. This allows the fed to preserve precious resources to deal with pressing needs like free community college and partisan IRS auditing.
You act like these employers are so innocent. You do know employers advertise jobs in Mexico right?
It's one thing to fine/arrest someone for deliberately hiring an illegal laborer. It's completely another to require some uncertain degree of investigation and diligence, particularly when the fed is totally complicit in the [legal] immigration process.
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Yes, forcing private citizens to do the work the federal government is supposed to do under threat of civil and criminal penalties is always the best way to go. This allows the fed to preserve precious resources to deal with pressing needs like free community college and partisan IRS auditing.
You act like these employers are so innocent. You do know employers advertise jobs in Mexico right?
It's one thing to fine/arrest someone for deliberately hiring an illegal laborer. It's completely another to require some uncertain degree of investigation and diligence, particularly when the fed is totally complicit in the [legal] immigration process.
It shouldn't be that hard to implement a nationally-mandated e-verify system where employers have to register their employees ssns, names, and birthdays. With that data, it would not be difficult for the Feds to ferret out stolen identities, and it also wouldn't be onerous on the employer.
Unfortunately, this sort of common sense legislation strengthening enforcement cannot even pass a republican congress because half of them are pro-amnesty.
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does that work for IC's?
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You're welcome a lot, Obama..
http://www.ijreview.com/2015/01/239402-believe-one-state-solely-responsible-net-job-growth-since-2007/ (http://www.ijreview.com/2015/01/239402-believe-one-state-solely-responsible-net-job-growth-since-2007/)
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Thanks Rick Perry
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Thanks Ross Perot
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Thanks Ross Perot
OK, whatever.