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Title: Sam Brownback
Post by: bones129 on January 16, 2015, 12:04:33 AM
ITT, we post our thoughts about our Governor.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: star seed 7 on January 16, 2015, 12:06:23 AM
A godly man
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: bones129 on January 16, 2015, 12:07:48 AM
A godly man

He would agree, I'm sure.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Headinjun on January 16, 2015, 12:30:58 AM
Has too much faith.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: renocat on January 16, 2015, 08:28:28 AM
A godly man
Amen, we need more people of faith in public service especially Christians with a level head and decent morals.  Not like the dc sewer.  Sam is a loyal friend, great daddy, and smarter than your average bear.  Plus he is a Kansas conservative.  I do not agree with all of his policies, but it is the role of the legislature to pass bills and a budget - so they can tweek things - the tweekies.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: steve dave on January 16, 2015, 08:36:26 AM
Cat grad in Ag Econ which is all I need to know.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: michigancat on January 16, 2015, 08:41:57 AM
Cat grad in Ag Econ which is all I need to know.
He was student body president when my parents were KSU Cats!
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: steve dave on January 16, 2015, 08:58:57 AM
Those facts alone should keep him in office until he dies.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on January 16, 2015, 09:12:31 AM
It's neat that he's required to satisfy the budget shortfall. He can't just print money and take on endless debt like the federal government. Bring on the CUTS!  :Woot:
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: mocat on February 10, 2015, 04:37:08 PM
holy crap, man. it's one thing to not be progressive. Kansas is actually going backwards.

http://www.kansascity.com/news/government-politics/article9694028.html (http://www.kansascity.com/news/government-politics/article9694028.html)

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TOPEKA
Gov. Sam Brownback signed an executive order Tuesday rescinding a protection for lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender state workers that was put into place by then-Gov. Kathleen Sebelius eight years ago.

Sebelius had signed an executive order in 2007 that said state workers could not be discriminated against, fired or harassed because of their gender identity or sexual orientation. In an executive order of his own, Brownback rescinded that and eight other policies that had been put into place by his Democratic predecessors, Sebelius and Gov. Mark Parkinson.

Brownback issued an additional executive order that affirmed that state employees could not be discriminated against because of their race, religion, gender, age or country of national origin but without the protection for lesbian, gay, bisexual or transgender Kansans.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: CNS on February 10, 2015, 04:40:04 PM
What point does that even serve?  What is the Christian version of Sharia Law? 
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Spracne on February 10, 2015, 04:44:52 PM
What a disgrace.  I bet Sam used to say "Gay U" a lot back in the day.  Probs still does. tons.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: CNS on February 10, 2015, 04:48:16 PM
What a disgrace.  I bet Sam used to say "Gay U" a lot back in the day.  Probs still does. tons.

Hope not, Sprac.  lots of govt jobs there.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: SdK on February 10, 2015, 04:50:29 PM
Disgusting

#TheWesIsTheFuture

Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Cire on February 10, 2015, 04:56:37 PM
That's bat crap crazy in this day and age
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: star seed 7 on February 10, 2015, 04:58:48 PM
People that voted for him are partying pretty hard right now
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: mocat on February 10, 2015, 05:05:13 PM
gah
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: michigancat on February 10, 2015, 05:06:28 PM
Jeez, Sam
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on February 10, 2015, 05:08:57 PM
Those facts alone should keep him in office until he dies.

Uh, no thanks.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: CNS on February 10, 2015, 05:10:34 PM
I feel super bad for the large amt of gay/lesbian/transgendered that were planning on moving their biz here to get a piece of our tax utopia.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: mocat on February 10, 2015, 05:11:48 PM
it's just state employees, CNS. but i'm pretty sure non-state employees are already unprotected in Kansas if i had to guess
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: puniraptor on February 10, 2015, 05:12:25 PM
(http://i1093.photobucket.com/albums/i421/PUNITRATOR/brownbadinejad_zpse30044d0.jpg)
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: CNS on February 10, 2015, 05:15:27 PM
it's just state employees, CNS. but i'm pretty sure non-state employees are already unprotected in Kansas if i had to guess

Well, that is a relief. 
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on February 10, 2015, 05:16:05 PM
What a disgrace.  I bet Sam used to say "Gay U" a lot back in the day.  Probs still does. tons.

Maybe Jack Harry is in the running for one of his staff positions.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: renocat on February 10, 2015, 06:30:26 PM
Kansas gets a lot of federal grants.  Executive orders say that any one receiving a federal grant cannot discriminate on the basis of sexual orientation.   So if you want the fed mmoney, you cpmply with their rules.  This is how federal leaders get states to do things.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Panjandrum on February 10, 2015, 06:36:45 PM
It takes a special kind of bad person to stand up and say you're pro-discrimination.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: CNS on February 10, 2015, 06:43:32 PM
It takes a special kind of bad person to stand up and say you're pro-discrimination.
And a special kind of constituency to keep that in office.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: wetwillie on February 10, 2015, 06:44:45 PM
Must be a gay person they want to fire pretty bad to roll this back. 
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Panjandrum on February 10, 2015, 07:26:45 PM
Must be a gay person they want to fire pretty bad to roll this back.

No. It's stupid PR horse crap about our issues being cultural and moral.

For awhile, I thought he didn't actually believe most of the crazy things he supports.

Now, I think he actually is bat crap crazy. I really do.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on February 10, 2015, 11:00:54 PM
Sam's a real modern day George Wallace.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on February 10, 2015, 11:18:44 PM
This seems like the sort of thing the legislature should do - not by executive order. But I know, that's such an antiquated notion these days.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: star seed 7 on February 10, 2015, 11:20:37 PM
activist governors
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Headinjun on February 10, 2015, 11:29:39 PM
It takes a special kind of bad person to stand up and say you're pro-discrimination.

I was going to type the same thing.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Jabeez on February 10, 2015, 11:29:43 PM
This seems like the sort of thing the legislature should do - not by executive order. But I know, that's such an antiquated notion these days.
Because the states hiring too many gays has been such a pressing issue prior to this. 

Pissing off the most vocal, organized, and motivated minority seems like a bad move though,  so good for sammy.  God probably told him this would guide him in his way to be president.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Headinjun on February 10, 2015, 11:35:59 PM
I felt like you could make the case that this is a recall offense, but then I realized where I live.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Spracne on February 10, 2015, 11:42:09 PM
I and my fellow expats have been laughing about and shaming this action all day. It is a hollow action, to be sure--purely symbolic.  And that, that makes it all the more ridiculous.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on February 11, 2015, 12:38:22 AM
Since you aren't allowed to do it either way, the Sebelius executive order was equally as stupid as the executive order that rescinded it.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Panjandrum on February 11, 2015, 01:06:16 AM
This seems like the sort of thing the legislature should do - not by executive order. But I know, that's such an antiquated notion these days.

Legislatures shouldn't be allowed to practice bigotry, but lo and behold, they do all over the place.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Headinjun on February 11, 2015, 01:26:34 AM
Since you aren't allowed to do it either way, the Sebelius executive order was equally as stupid as the executive order that rescinded it.

We're the executive orders by Roosevelt, Truman, and Eisenhower ending segregation within the ranks of the Federal government stupid?

Sometimes people do the right thing and sometimes people don't.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: CNS on February 11, 2015, 07:38:48 AM
Since you aren't allowed to do it either way, the Sebelius executive order was equally as stupid as the executive order that rescinded it.
Yes, pro and anti discrimination are equally stupid.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: steve dave on February 11, 2015, 07:48:22 AM
what a discgrace to the third floor of Waters Hall
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on February 11, 2015, 08:37:09 AM
While we're at it, are there any other "protected classes" we should create so it will be easier for state ees to bring frivolous suits in the (already extremely unlikely) event they are fired? Obese people? That may already be covered by the ADA. Lefties? Gingers? I mean really, I guess the gov can do whatever he/she wants by executive fiat. What would you like to add?
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on February 11, 2015, 09:09:02 AM
While we're at it, are there any other "protected classes" we should create so it will be easier for state ees to bring frivolous suits in the (already extremely unlikely) event they are fired? Obese people? That may already be covered by the ADA. Lefties? Gingers? I mean really, I guess the gov can do whatever he/she wants by executive fiat. What would you like to add?

I think the homosexuals cover it for now. I'd just read the bible, though. Anyone who God hates in there that isn't already on the list should be on it.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: CNS on February 11, 2015, 09:09:25 AM
Yes, being left handed and being gay come with the same challenges in life.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 11, 2015, 09:12:36 AM
Can someone recap what he's been doing? I hear a lot of ppl are pissed, but i'm too lazy to look into it. Just bullet points would be great. TIA.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: EMAWmeister on February 11, 2015, 09:16:42 AM
Can someone recap what he's been doing? I hear a lot of ppl are pissed, but i'm too lazy to look into it. Just bullet points would be great. TIA.

Kathleen issued an executive order making LGBT people a protected class.

Brownback issued an executive order to repeal that executive order.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 11, 2015, 09:24:55 AM
Oh, wow! What a bad person.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Headinjun on February 11, 2015, 09:53:39 AM
While we're at it, are there any other "protected classes" we should create so it will be easier for state ees to bring frivolous suits in the (already extremely unlikely) event they are fired? Obese people? That may already be covered by the ADA. Lefties? Gingers? I mean really, I guess the gov can do whatever he/she wants by executive fiat. What would you like to add?

Use your head!!!

Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: CNS on February 11, 2015, 10:05:59 AM
While we're at it, are there any other "protected classes" we should create so it will be easier for state ees to bring frivolous suits in the (already extremely unlikely) event they are fired? Obese people? That may already be covered by the ADA. Lefties? Gingers? I mean really, I guess the gov can do whatever he/she wants by executive fiat. What would you like to add?

Use your head!!!
He doesn't have to, the Republicans have their own party, their own party stances, and like to tell you what they are.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 11, 2015, 10:10:06 AM
Don't lump all republicans together. I don't do that with democrats. There's some extremist on both ends of the spectrum and they're truely rough ridin' idiots.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on February 11, 2015, 10:12:59 AM
Don't lump all republicans together. I don't do that with democrats. There's some extremist on both ends of the spectrum and they're truely rough ridin' idiots.

I agree, but you really should check spelling and grammar whenever you make this sort of comment.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on February 11, 2015, 10:15:31 AM
Meh. Don't care.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: CNS on February 11, 2015, 10:28:31 AM
I wasn't lumping anyone together except the rep party leadership and k_s_u.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on February 11, 2015, 10:30:03 AM
Can someone recap what he's been doing? I hear a lot of ppl are pissed, but i'm too lazy to look into it. Just bullet points would be great. TIA.

Kathleen issued an executive order making LGBT people a protected class.

Brownback issued an executive order to repeal that executive order.

To my point above, the Sebelius EO did no such thing. The 14th amendment already took care of that. It was as stupid and innocuous as the order rescinding it.

There's a tremendous amount of ignorance on display today.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: mocat on February 11, 2015, 10:46:18 AM
this is on par with ending net neutrality, in terms of something i thought we could all get behind. but nope.
why do FSD and KSUW just have to defend the egregiously wrong, just because a guy with (R) after his name is responsible?
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on February 11, 2015, 10:48:16 AM
While we're at it, are there any other "protected classes" we should create so it will be easier for state ees to bring frivolous suits in the (already extremely unlikely) event they are fired? Obese people? That may already be covered by the ADA. Lefties? Gingers? I mean really, I guess the gov can do whatever he/she wants by executive fiat. What would you like to add?

I think the homosexuals cover it for now. I'd just read the bible, though. Anyone who God hates in there that isn't already on the list should be on it.

For now? But what do you think we'll need next? Let's be forward thinking about this! Remember, it's just an EO away...
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: EMAWmeister on February 11, 2015, 10:54:14 AM
Gay marriage? What's next?!?!?! People marrying ANIMALS?!?!?!?!?
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: ChiComCat on February 11, 2015, 10:55:01 AM
When people in the government try to pass laws making government services optional for a select group, they are in need of protections.  If the government attempted to pass a law saying Police Officers can decide whether helping an obese person is against their religion, we should go ahead and protect them too.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Spracne on February 11, 2015, 10:56:34 AM
this is on par with ending net neutrality, in terms of something i thought we could all get behind. but nope.
why do FSD and KSUW just have to defend the egregiously wrong, just because a guy with (R) after his name is responsible?

I know, right?
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on February 11, 2015, 11:00:00 AM
While we're at it, are there any other "protected classes" we should create so it will be easier for state ees to bring frivolous suits in the (already extremely unlikely) event they are fired? Obese people? That may already be covered by the ADA. Lefties? Gingers? I mean really, I guess the gov can do whatever he/she wants by executive fiat. What would you like to add?

I think the homosexuals cover it for now. I'd just read the bible, though. Anyone who God hates in there that isn't already on the list should be on it.

For now? But what do you think we'll need next? Let's be forward thinking about this! Remember, it's just an EO away...

No, we just need to protect people who are actively discriminated against in their day to day lives at this time. It's also funny how you and governor Brownback claim that this should be handled by legislature and not executive order, yet Brownback created a new EO to make everyone other than homosexuals a protected class.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: 'taterblast on February 11, 2015, 11:13:17 AM
i just, don't get the positive in this. there has to be a benefit, or a positive in mind, to every move you make as a legislator, and i just don't see one here.

is it really just outright hating gays?
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Spracne on February 11, 2015, 11:14:39 AM
i just, don't get the positive in this. there has to be a benefit, or a positive in mind, to every move you make as a legislator, and i just don't see one here.

is it really just outright hating gays?

Says something about the Kansas electorate, unfortunately. 
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on February 11, 2015, 11:16:05 AM
i just, don't get the positive in this. there has to be a benefit, or a positive in mind, to every move you make as a legislator, and i just don't see one here.

is it really just outright hating gays?

I keep hearing that he is eyeing a presidential run, but I just can't believe he would be dumb enough to think he could win. This move could make sense in that context, though, given how well Santorum did last time.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: 'taterblast on February 11, 2015, 11:18:31 AM
this is my understanding of the law: state employees can't be fired because of their sexuality.

JUST LEAVE IT ALONE. THAT'S A GOOD LAW. DON'T OVERTHINK THIS YOU rough ridin' IDIOT.

i know i'm not saying anything everyone doesn't already know. usually i will listen to cop out justifications for moves that seem stupid, and i'm just not seeing it for this one.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: CNS on February 11, 2015, 11:24:36 AM
As far as leaving such things to legislature, we would most likely get the same result.  The KS legislature loves hating gays.  Yesterday 980 was discussing a new proposed bill in the KS House that redefines the reqmts for foster parents:
1. must be married (in ks, that means "not gay")
2. must have one of the two parents be full time stay at home
3. must never have alcohol in the house
4. never have been arrested or any record at all
5. must attend "a social function, including non-family, that meets often, preferably once a week" - meaning church.

They were discussing how there is basically no way this doesn't pass, because voting against this would give opponents so much ammo for the next run. 

KS really wants the christian version of Sharia law. 
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on February 11, 2015, 11:43:22 AM
Everyone in this thread, except me, is a rough ridin' moron that has no idea what's going on.

Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: 'taterblast on February 11, 2015, 11:45:20 AM
Everyone in this thread, except me, is a rough ridin' moron that has no idea what's going on.

tell me what's going on. seriously.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on February 11, 2015, 11:45:40 AM
this is on par with ending net neutrality, in terms of something i thought we could all get behind. but nope.
why do FSD and KSUW just have to defend the egregiously wrong, just because a guy with (R) after his name is responsible?

Not sure how calling something innocuous and stupid constitutes "defending" it. But you're just as dumb as the rest of the retards in this thread, so to each his/her/its own.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Spracne on February 11, 2015, 11:46:17 AM
FSD is a stupid poopface.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: SdK on February 11, 2015, 11:46:36 AM
Is that only this thread though, FSD?

#TheWesIsTheFuture

Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on February 11, 2015, 11:48:54 AM
Everyone in this thread, except me, is a rough ridin' moron that has no idea what's going on.

tell me what's going on. seriously.

Read my posts, it's all you need to know.

If you feel a need to speculate as to whether Sam's true motive was symbolic gay-hating or small gubmint ideology, then carry on.  The EO has no practical effect on gays, nor anything to do with the legislature.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: michigancat on February 11, 2015, 11:52:09 AM
Can someone recap what he's been doing? I hear a lot of ppl are pissed, but i'm too lazy to look into it. Just bullet points would be great. TIA.

Kathleen issued an executive order making LGBT people a protected class.

Brownback issued an executive order to repeal that executive order.

To my point above, the Sebelius EO did no such thing. The 14th amendment already took care of that. It was as stupid and innocuous as the order rescinding it.

There's a tremendous amount of ignorance on display today.

You're probably right to say they're both equally ineffective/innocuous, but man it's a huuuuuuuge stretch to say they're equally stupid.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: 'taterblast on February 11, 2015, 11:52:44 AM
Everyone in this thread, except me, is a rough ridin' moron that has no idea what's going on.

tell me what's going on. seriously.

Read my posts, it's all you need to know.

If you feel a need to speculate as to whether Sam's true motive was symbolic gay-hating or small gubmint ideology, then carry on.  The EO has no practical effect on gays, nor anything to do with the legislature.

ok so what was the motive for Sam's move this week?
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: sonofdaxjones on February 11, 2015, 11:58:57 AM
I've never like Brownback, just hate he's affiliated in any way with K-State.

But I can't help but laugh at the absurdity of his actions.   This is just a knee jerk reaction right?   There's something that's not being said, or some kind of clarity that will eventually spring forth that will make more sense out of this . . . right?

Otherwise, just wow.  There should be an investigation into how many hours went into researching this EO and the people of the state should be reimbursed for all the expenses involved in this idiocy.



Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: 'taterblast on February 11, 2015, 12:01:43 PM
he either:

a)hates the crap out of gays and doesn't care who knows it
b)is too stupid to know how a move like this would look to the public

either way, he's a rough ridin' idiot
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on February 11, 2015, 12:04:40 PM
he either:

a)hates the crap out of gays and doesn't care who knows it
b)is too stupid to know how a move like this would look to the public

either way, he's a rough ridin' idiot

I think it's a. There is also a very large segment of the public that loves this move, especially in a state like Kansas.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on February 11, 2015, 01:12:06 PM
Can someone recap what he's been doing? I hear a lot of ppl are pissed, but i'm too lazy to look into it. Just bullet points would be great. TIA.

Kathleen issued an executive order making LGBT people a protected class.

Brownback issued an executive order to repeal that executive order.

To my point above, the Sebelius EO did no such thing. The 14th amendment already took care of that. It was as stupid and innocuous as the order rescinding it.

There's a tremendous amount of ignorance on display today.

You're probably right to say they're both equally ineffective/innocuous, but man it's a huuuuuuuge stretch to say they're equally stupid.

Why? Each panders to approximately one-half of the constituency.  The support for "gay rights" nationwide is one of the things educated young people serially overestimate.  It's surprisingly bad.


Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on February 11, 2015, 01:31:43 PM
While we're at it, are there any other "protected classes" we should create so it will be easier for state ees to bring frivolous suits in the (already extremely unlikely) event they are fired? Obese people? That may already be covered by the ADA. Lefties? Gingers? I mean really, I guess the gov can do whatever he/she wants by executive fiat. What would you like to add?

I think the homosexuals cover it for now. I'd just read the bible, though. Anyone who God hates in there that isn't already on the list should be on it.

For now? But what do you think we'll need next? Let's be forward thinking about this! Remember, it's just an EO away...

No, we just need to protect people who are actively discriminated against in their day to day lives at this time. It's also funny how you and governor Brownback claim that this should be handled by legislature and not executive order, yet Brownback created a new EO to make everyone other than homosexuals a protected class.

Oh ok - just "the people being actively discriminated against." That seems like a pretty ambiguous standard. How about single parents with kids? How about the homeless? I'm not just pulling these examples out of my ass, btw, these are ideas other liberal politicians have pulled out of their asses for the latest and greatest "protected classes." It all starts getting a little absurd at some point, and creates a more litigious atmosphere where everyone is aggrieved, everyone has been wrongfully fired, etc. Next, employers (especially the gov employers) set up unwritten quotas for these protected individuals to prove they aren't discriminating. It's all gotten a bit ridiculous.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: michigancat on February 11, 2015, 01:42:08 PM
Can someone recap what he's been doing? I hear a lot of ppl are pissed, but i'm too lazy to look into it. Just bullet points would be great. TIA.

Kathleen issued an executive order making LGBT people a protected class.

Brownback issued an executive order to repeal that executive order.

To my point above, the Sebelius EO did no such thing. The 14th amendment already took care of that. It was as stupid and innocuous as the order rescinding it.

There's a tremendous amount of ignorance on display today.

You're probably right to say they're both equally ineffective/innocuous, but man it's a huuuuuuuge stretch to say they're equally stupid.

Why? Each panders to approximately one-half of the constituency.  The support for "gay rights" nationwide is one of the things educated young people serially overestimate.  It's surprisingly bad.

I don't think Sam's base even cares about this even more. Even if they did, it makes him look like an bad person with zero apparent gain. Kathleen's may have been innocuous and done little to gain new voters, but it didn't generate much discussion because anyone opposed to it would also look like a huge bad person. Also it could make her more attractive as a figure in her party, while the GOP has pretty much given up the fight on discriminating gays. This order would definitely come back to haunt Sam if he was involved on any type of stage beyond the Kansas border. I'm sure there's plenty of other reasons, but those are just off the top of my head.

And I'd love to see your poll numbers on people overestimating "gay rights". Because even if people overestimate its support, everyone pretty much knows things like gay marriage are inevitable and have given up the fight. I mean Mormons don't even care if gays get married any more.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on February 11, 2015, 01:45:52 PM
While we're at it, are there any other "protected classes" we should create so it will be easier for state ees to bring frivolous suits in the (already extremely unlikely) event they are fired? Obese people? That may already be covered by the ADA. Lefties? Gingers? I mean really, I guess the gov can do whatever he/she wants by executive fiat. What would you like to add?

I think the homosexuals cover it for now. I'd just read the bible, though. Anyone who God hates in there that isn't already on the list should be on it.

For now? But what do you think we'll need next? Let's be forward thinking about this! Remember, it's just an EO away...

No, we just need to protect people who are actively discriminated against in their day to day lives at this time. It's also funny how you and governor Brownback claim that this should be handled by legislature and not executive order, yet Brownback created a new EO to make everyone other than homosexuals a protected class.

Oh ok - just "the people being actively discriminated against." That seems like a pretty ambiguous standard. How about single parents with kids? How about the homeless? I'm not just pulling these examples out of my ass, btw, these are ideas other liberal politicians have pulled out of their asses for the latest and greatest "protected classes." It all starts getting a little absurd at some point, and creates a more litigious atmosphere where everyone is aggrieved, everyone has been wrongfully fired, etc. Next, employers (especially the gov employers) set up unwritten quotas for these protected individuals to prove they aren't discriminating. It's all gotten a bit ridiculous.

If people start firing people for being a single parent, then yeah, we should pass a law that says that's not a valid reason to fire somebody.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: michigancat on February 11, 2015, 01:50:35 PM
I think transgender is the next area that will deserve protection. Hopefully we get to the point that we won't need any.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on February 11, 2015, 02:00:25 PM
I think transgender is the next area that will deserve protection. Hopefully we get to the point that we won't need any.

Transgender was covered until this new executive order.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on February 11, 2015, 02:17:53 PM
It's adorable how sheltered the progressotards are regarding the popularity of their own views.

If it wasn't for the court system gay marriage would be legal in like 4 states, and outright forbidden in about 35. Homosexuality is wildly unpopular among the "changing demographics" they rely on to ram through the welfare state. Transgender is not the same thing as homosexuality,  yet they lump them in together because that's how Progressotards compartmentalize and project their bigotry.  It's the most disgusting kind of politics.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Spracne on February 11, 2015, 02:21:06 PM
Interesting way to project bigotry...
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Jabeez on February 11, 2015, 02:25:59 PM
It's adorable how sheltered the progressotards are regarding the popularity of their own views.

If it wasn't for the court system gay marriage would be legal in like 4 states, and outright forbidden in about 35. Homosexuality is wildly unpopular among the "changing demographics" they rely on to ram through the welfare state. Transgender is not the same thing as homosexuality,  yet they lump them in together because that's how Progressotards compartmentalize and project their bigotry.  It's the most disgusting kind of politics.

FSD insultomatic machine, insert group you disagree with, chop off last syllable, replace with tard.  Perfect insult and description every time.

Also, what the eff is a transgender person, are there actually that many that this is an issue?  Does any one have any on the job experience with this? Some sales person in iowa at my mom's job got a sex change, and one of her male coworkers hit on "her" and they all got a good laugh about it. But I just can't imagine how weird the adjustment would be.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: steve dave on February 11, 2015, 02:30:54 PM
ugh, kansans
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on February 11, 2015, 02:35:08 PM
Let's carve up the electorate into small but manageable groups and tell them all the other is out to get them. We'll just give them a bunch of crap until they're happy.

What about Transgender people, there's not enough of them to make a separate group?

Lump them in with the Queens, it's a sexual-y thing.

Great call boss.  Now what to do about all these different kinds of asians?

They make too much money to be bought, forget them.


We have like 10 different classes of citizens with ten different baskets of rights. All in the name of equality. How perverted.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: CNS on February 11, 2015, 02:40:17 PM
Sam is the anti easter bunny.  Just snatching baskets.
 
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on February 11, 2015, 02:43:59 PM
Sam is the anti easter bunny.  Just snatching baskets.

Only for one group, though. You only get eggs if you fertilize them.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: nicname on February 11, 2015, 02:54:54 PM
So how long would it take for legislators to pass a bill that deemed LGBT a protected class under state law? Is Brownback really all that much a stickler for legislative process?
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: michigancat on February 11, 2015, 02:57:23 PM
It's adorable how sheltered the progressotards are regarding the popularity of their own views.

If it wasn't for the court system gay marriage would be legal in like 4 states, and outright forbidden in about 35. Homosexuality is wildly unpopular among the "changing demographics" they rely on to ram through the welfare state. Transgender is not the same thing as homosexuality,  yet they lump them in together because that's how Progressotards compartmentalize and project their bigotry.  It's the most disgusting kind of politics.

I mean I suggested transgenders belonged in a separate group. Like, right before your post.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on February 11, 2015, 02:58:06 PM
So how long would it take for legislators to pass a bill that deemed LGBT a protected class under state law? Is Brownback really all that much a stickler for legislative process?

It wouldn't take long at all of there was any interest in doing that. If Brownback were really a stickler for legislative process, he wouldn't have signed a new EO making everyone from the old EO a protected class except for LGBTs, though. That would be the legislature's job.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Dugout DickStone on February 11, 2015, 03:07:12 PM
Sam knows his base
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: EMAWmeister on February 11, 2015, 03:11:42 PM
It's so adorable when FSD gets mad
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: nicname on February 11, 2015, 03:19:31 PM
So how long would it take for legislators to pass a bill that deemed LGBT a protected class under state law? Is Brownback really all that much a stickler for legislative process?

It wouldn't take long at all of there was any interest in doing that. If Brownback were really a stickler for legislative process, he wouldn't have signed a new EO making everyone from the old EO a protected class except for LGBTs, though. That would be the legislature's job.

I think a purist (no clue as to Sam being as such) would do it like you described. I can definitely see him saying "well, this shouldn't have gone down in the first place, so I'm going to take it back, because I can."

What's the point of satisfying a base for him in the long run? I don't get that. I don't see how it helps in a Pres. run. Is he going to go back to Senatoring?
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on February 11, 2015, 03:20:48 PM
So how long would it take for legislators to pass a bill that deemed LGBT a protected class under state law? Is Brownback really all that much a stickler for legislative process?

It wouldn't take long at all of there was any interest in doing that. If Brownback were really a stickler for legislative process, he wouldn't have signed a new EO making everyone from the old EO a protected class except for LGBTs, though. That would be the legislature's job.

Sam, Kathleen and/or the legislature can't make lgbt a protected or unprotected class, you dolts. They are protected under the U.S. Constitution
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on February 11, 2015, 03:21:36 PM
It's adorable how sheltered the progressotards are regarding the popularity of their own views.

If it wasn't for the court system gay marriage would be legal in like 4 states, and outright forbidden in about 35. Homosexuality is wildly unpopular among the "changing demographics" they rely on to ram through the welfare state. Transgender is not the same thing as homosexuality,  yet they lump them in together because that's how Progressotards compartmentalize and project their bigotry.  It's the most disgusting kind of politics.

I mean I suggested transgenders belonged in a separate group. Like, right before your post.

I'm sure you now wished you had, bigot.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on February 11, 2015, 03:24:26 PM
So how long would it take for legislators to pass a bill that deemed LGBT a protected class under state law? Is Brownback really all that much a stickler for legislative process?

It wouldn't take long at all of there was any interest in doing that. If Brownback were really a stickler for legislative process, he wouldn't have signed a new EO making everyone from the old EO a protected class except for LGBTs, though. That would be the legislature's job.

I think a purist (no clue as to Sam being as such) would do it like you described. I can definitely see him saying "well, this shouldn't have gone down in the first place, so I'm going to take it back, because I can."

What's the point of satisfying a base for him in the long run? I don't get that. I don't see how it helps in a Pres. run. Is he going to go back to Senatoring?

No, a purist would simply repeal the executive order. By creating a new EO to replace the one he repealed, with every group included except for LGBT, he is basically saying that he thinks the legislature should act to protect one group, but it's ok to protect the others by EO.

http://chicago.suntimes.com/politics/7/71/361167/kansas-gov-sam-brownback-rescinds-order-protecting-lgbt-workers

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Brownback said Sebelius — a Democrat who went on to serve as President Barack Obama’s health secretary — acted “unilaterally” with her order and that any such changes should be made by the state Legislature.

Quote
Brownback, a vocal defender of a ban in the state constitution on same-sex marriage, issued a new order reaffirming the state’s commitment to prohibit discrimination based on race, color, ethnicity, national origin, gender or religion.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: EMAWmeister on February 11, 2015, 03:52:49 PM
What if the LGBT community started their own religion? Give Kansas a real "sophie's choice" between hating gays and freedom of religion.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: CNS on February 11, 2015, 04:32:15 PM
I am no lawyer, but the two different law classes I had at Sam's alma matter both stated that sexual preference is not a protected class.  Has something changed since 2002?
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: puniraptor on February 11, 2015, 04:35:08 PM
is there any concern that some of the gayer state agencies may axe a ton of straight workers?
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on February 11, 2015, 04:51:50 PM
is there any concern that some of the gayer state agencies may axe a ton of straight workers?

I think maybe this is a preemptive strike to keep that from happening. Get the gays out now while we still can sort of thing.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Dugout DickStone on February 11, 2015, 04:58:26 PM
is there any concern that some of the gayer state agencies may axe a ton of straight workers?

lol
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: mocat on February 11, 2015, 05:35:42 PM
Fyi guys, this is fsd not defending Brownback
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on February 11, 2015, 07:56:16 PM
Fyi guys, this is fsd not defending Brownback

Use of the singular when referring to the plural is grammatically incorrect
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Spracne on February 11, 2015, 07:57:36 PM
Fyi guys, this is fsd not defending Brownback

Use of the singular when referring to the plural is grammatically incorrect

This is the smartest, cleverest, most interesting post that I have read on this blog in 3 weeks.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on February 11, 2015, 10:13:48 PM
Kansas City's largest privately owned business is moving to Kansas

 :Woot:
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Cire on February 11, 2015, 11:37:17 PM
300 jobs cha ching
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Dugout DickStone on February 12, 2015, 09:44:42 AM
is there any concern that some of the gayer state agencies may axe a ton of straight workers?

If I were a hetero and worked for the KS Secretary of State I would be pretty nervous today.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Cire on February 12, 2015, 12:24:59 PM
Someone needs to get harassed/fired and sue
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: mocat on February 20, 2015, 09:55:33 AM
Wisconsin governor to Brownback: "Your move, dick cheese. LOL"

http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/wisconsin-governor-moves-to-block-hospital-visitation-rights-for-same-sex-couples/ (http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/wisconsin-governor-moves-to-block-hospital-visitation-rights-for-same-sex-couples/)
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: CNS on February 20, 2015, 09:56:49 AM
God hates the sick being comforted by loved ones. 
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: CNS on February 20, 2015, 09:58:03 AM
This is a really good example of why civil unions/registries are not as good as marriage for those who like to argue against gay marriage.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Institutional Control on February 20, 2015, 10:11:21 AM
Wisconsin governor to Brownback: "Your move, dick cheese. LOL"

http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/wisconsin-governor-moves-to-block-hospital-visitation-rights-for-same-sex-couples/ (http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/wisconsin-governor-moves-to-block-hospital-visitation-rights-for-same-sex-couples/)

Isn't that a 4 year old story?
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: mocat on February 20, 2015, 10:13:19 AM
 :sdeek:
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on February 20, 2015, 10:14:54 AM
Yeah, nice try mocat. It's still Scott's move.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: CNS on February 20, 2015, 10:19:44 AM
Sam has totally faced that bigot, multiple times, since then. 

KS.  Back on top!
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: mocat on February 20, 2015, 10:25:00 AM
slow day in the pit  :dunno:
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: star seed 7 on March 06, 2015, 05:42:44 PM
http://cjonline.com/news/2015-03-05/lobbyist-confronts-topeka-teacher-accuses-her-disrespecting-governor

 :lol:

isn't this like the 10th story to come out of brownback staff harassing people for talking about brownback?
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: CNS on March 06, 2015, 06:53:22 PM
Keep his name out yo mouth.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Tobias on March 06, 2015, 07:32:23 PM
don't start no crap it won't be no crap
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: SdK on March 23, 2015, 08:54:15 PM
(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/03/23/a5aa61d5f8cf9f660137af606e14eb84.jpg)
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: renocat on March 23, 2015, 11:39:03 PM
Pretty east centrsl common sense displayed by Sam.  He wore only 1 shirt.  Obama would have worn 6.  One for each school, one for climate change, one for the Big Ocare, One for breathe with your hands up, and one for advertising John Kerry's Bumbling Diplomatic Services "where you will always get a blast".  Sam grauated from both KU and KSU, and now is showing support for the great southcentral Kansas school.  i wonder if any one has had their wooo shocked.  I have heard stories about electric fences and manmade rainfall.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on March 23, 2015, 11:56:21 PM
Pretty east centrsl common sense displayed by Sam.  He wore only 1 shirt.  Obama would have worn 6.  One for each school, one for climate change, one for the Big Ocare, One for breathe with your hands up, and one for advertising John Kerry's Bumbling Diplomatic Services "where you will always get a blast".  Sam grauated from both KU and KSU, and now is showing support for the great southcentral Kansas school.  i wonder if any one has had their wooo shocked.  I have heard stories about electric fences and manmade rainfall.

He is very clearly wearing 2 shirts in the photo.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on March 24, 2015, 09:58:21 AM
Brownie threw the squawks a bone today, announced the expansion of a multimillion dollar program to provide job training to low income and low skilled people.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Dugout DickStone on March 24, 2015, 10:01:55 AM
Brownie threw the squawks a bone today, announced the expansion of a multimillion dollar program to provide job training to low income and low skilled people.

BOOM

Silverbacked
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on March 24, 2015, 10:31:11 AM
Pretty east centrsl common sense displayed by Sam.  He wore only 1 shirt.  Obama would have worn 6.  One for each school, one for climate change, one for the Big Ocare, One for breathe with your hands up, and one for advertising John Kerry's Bumbling Diplomatic Services "where you will always get a blast".  Sam grauated from both KU and KSU, and now is showing support for the great southcentral Kansas school.  i wonder if any one has had their wooo shocked.  I have heard stories about electric fences and manmade rainfall.

He is very clearly wearing 2 shirts in the photo.

I don't undertand the deal with the pink shirt underneath. Pink is not a good color on Sam.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on April 01, 2015, 05:35:49 PM
Pretty east centrsl common sense displayed by Sam.  He wore only 1 shirt.  Obama would have worn 6.  One for each school, one for climate change, one for the Big Ocare, One for breathe with your hands up, and one for advertising John Kerry's Bumbling Diplomatic Services "where you will always get a blast".  Sam grauated from both KU and KSU, and now is showing support for the great southcentral Kansas school.  i wonder if any one has had their wooo shocked.  I have heard stories about electric fences and manmade rainfall.

He is very clearly wearing 2 shirts in the photo.

I don't undertand the deal with the pink shirt underneath. Pink is not a good color on Sam.

He wore the pink shirt to the game. When he got there he quickly bought the nonpartisan shirt. After the game he quickly added a WSU on top of the other shirts.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on April 01, 2015, 10:40:26 PM
Pretty east centrsl common sense displayed by Sam.  He wore only 1 shirt.  Obama would have worn 6.  One for each school, one for climate change, one for the Big Ocare, One for breathe with your hands up, and one for advertising John Kerry's Bumbling Diplomatic Services "where you will always get a blast".  Sam grauated from both KU and KSU, and now is showing support for the great southcentral Kansas school.  i wonder if any one has had their wooo shocked.  I have heard stories about electric fences and manmade rainfall.

He is very clearly wearing 2 shirts in the photo.

I don't undertand the deal with the pink shirt underneath. Pink is not a good color on Sam.

He wore the pink shirt to the game. When he got there he quickly bought the nonpartisan shirt. After the game he quickly added a WSU on top of the other shirts.

Nope.

https://www.facebook.com/govsambrownback/photos/pb.184999488192704.-2207520000.1427945921./1106669499359027/?type=3&theater
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on April 01, 2015, 10:56:51 PM
Sam lives in the head of the left, I've noticed.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: mocat on April 27, 2015, 02:22:10 PM
holy crap  :lol:

http://www.kansascity.com/news/government-politics/article19737486.html (http://www.kansascity.com/news/government-politics/article19737486.html)

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Gov. Brownback to re-enact signing of Kansas anti-abortion measure

TOPEKA – Gov. Sam Brownback plans to have four ceremonies across Kansas to re-enact his signing of the nation’s first ban on a procedure that critics describe as dismembering a fetus.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: mocat on April 27, 2015, 02:22:37 PM
Sam Brownback Greatest Hits Tour
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: CNS on April 27, 2015, 02:24:36 PM
I hope there are memorabilia involved for the abortion fanboys.

Bobblehead fetuses, Decorative plates with Sam's face on them, etc

Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Spracne on April 27, 2015, 02:27:15 PM
I've always wanted to get into historical reenactments, but it just seemed like way too much effort.  Period clothing? Historical research? bleh. Recent-past bill signing reenactments seem like the perfect hobby of the modern day Everyman.  Period clothing? Already wearing them.  Desk, pen, piece of paper? Piece of cake.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on April 27, 2015, 02:48:59 PM
I've always wanted to get into historical reenactments, but it just seemed like way too much effort.  Period clothing? Historical research? bleh. Recent-past bill signing reenactments seem like the perfect hobby of the modern day Everyman.  Period clothing? Already wearing them.  Desk, pen, piece of paper? Piece of cake.

Well, Sam should dress up like Honest Abe when he does the reenactments, anyway. He should have people dressed in Confederate garb protesting him as he signs the document and hands it over to Ulysses S. Grant. Then Robert E. Lee would take off his cap, bow his head, shake it twice, shed a tear, and tell his Confederate brothers that the war is over. Abe Brownback has won.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on April 27, 2015, 03:47:06 PM
If I just signed an anti-abortion law I'd probably be mushing it in the libtards' faces, too. Go Sam.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on April 27, 2015, 03:53:20 PM
If I just signed an anti-abortion law I'd probably be mushing it in the libtards' faces, too. Go Sam.

Yes, this is definitely a prudent use of taxpayer dollars in a broke state that is talking about new taxes that are needed to balance the budget. Go Sam.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on April 27, 2015, 04:06:58 PM
If I just signed an anti-abortion law I'd probably be mushing it in the libtards' faces, too. Go Sam.

Yes, this is definitely a prudent use of taxpayer dollars in a broke state that is talking about new taxes that are needed to balance the budget. Go Sam.

I doubt it costs that much. But he should probably stop taking all those vacations to Hawaii and golf trips on the taxpayer dime. Oh, I was thinking of somebody else.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: CNS on April 27, 2015, 04:10:03 PM
If he charged like $10/ bobblehead fetus, our budget gap would be significantly reduced. 
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on April 27, 2015, 04:23:13 PM
If I just signed an anti-abortion law I'd probably be mushing it in the libtards' faces, too. Go Sam.

Yes, this is definitely a prudent use of taxpayer dollars in a broke state that is talking about new taxes that are needed to balance the budget. Go Sam.

I doubt it costs that much. But he should probably stop taking all those vacations to Hawaii and golf trips on the taxpayer dime. Oh, I was thinking of somebody else.

I really don't see the difference.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: star seed 7 on April 27, 2015, 04:28:12 PM
Sam Brownback Greatest Hits Tour

Wonder what the encore is  :love:
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: CNS on April 27, 2015, 04:31:28 PM
Sam Brownback Greatest Hits Tour

Wonder what the encore is  :love:

Rodeo
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: star seed 7 on April 27, 2015, 05:36:14 PM
Reenactment of getting booed at the ku wsu game?
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: star seed 7 on April 27, 2015, 05:37:35 PM
Stops at all arenas over 5k to let the crowd boo him  :love:
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Brock Landers on April 27, 2015, 05:48:43 PM
Sam is clearly a history buff and just wants to make sure this doesn't get lost in the sands of time, kind of like those Civil War reenactments.  People could totally get into it and wear period clothing from all the way back in early April of 2015.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on April 27, 2015, 06:29:14 PM
If I just signed an anti-abortion law I'd probably be mushing it in the libtards' faces, too. Go Sam.

Yes, this is definitely a prudent use of taxpayer dollars in a broke state that is talking about new taxes that are needed to balance the budget. Go Sam.

I doubt it costs that much. But he should probably stop taking all those vacations to Hawaii and golf trips on the taxpayer dime. Oh, I was thinking of somebody else.

I really don't see the difference.

I see a difference. Poor Sam is probably driving a Hyundai from Topeka to Emporia. Obama routinely flies multiple Boeing 747s across the country and globe for photo ops and vacations. My favorites are when he does it for earth day.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: star seed 7 on April 27, 2015, 06:34:24 PM
Poor sam
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on April 27, 2015, 08:29:31 PM
http://www.kctv5.com/story/19944240/kctv5-investigates-kansas-governor-sam-brownback-spending

He flies from Topeka to Manhattan.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: star seed 7 on April 27, 2015, 08:40:06 PM
poor sam
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on April 27, 2015, 10:48:18 PM
This raises a question of significant pit import, is it circle jerk when there are only two people, or something more intimate?
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on April 27, 2015, 11:11:01 PM
http://www.kctv5.com/story/19944240/kctv5-investigates-kansas-governor-sam-brownback-spending

He flies from Topeka to Manhattan.

Thanks for posting that. It's pretty funny how detailed they were in the breakdown.

Quote
Travel is a recurring theme in the documents obtained from the state, including some foreign destinations.

In July of 2012, taxpayers covered the $800 cost for Brownback to fly to Germany to attend an air show.

The previous fall, in October 2011, Brownback and other state officials spent $7,000 on plane tickets to Russia and Kazakhstan.

With long flights ahead of him, records show the governor spending another $200 in taxpayer dollars to upgrade his seats from economy to economy plus.

Obviously, any travel outside the United States requires a passport. Included in the records are receipts showing public funds were used to have Brownback's picture taken and his passport processing expedited.


They really really hate him. :lol:
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on April 27, 2015, 11:11:35 PM
This raises a question of significant pit import, is it circle jerk when there are only two people, or something more intimate?

You and Sam should set up a reenactment in Pittsburg.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: star seed 7 on April 27, 2015, 11:17:15 PM
brownback didn't have a passport?  shocking
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Tobias on April 27, 2015, 11:18:06 PM
what was he trying to hide?
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on April 27, 2015, 11:21:43 PM
what was he trying to hide?

Makes you wonder just what Sam was up to in Kazakhstan.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: star seed 7 on April 27, 2015, 11:21:53 PM
what was he trying to hide?

also shocking that ksuw didn't quote that part of the article
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on April 27, 2015, 11:23:25 PM
Well, the article was pretty petty. It read like a K-S-U post about Obama.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: star seed 7 on April 27, 2015, 11:24:39 PM
Well, the article was pretty petty. It read like a K-S-U post about Obama.

yes, and they addressed that pretty well i'd say.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: renocat on April 28, 2015, 09:47:09 PM
Raise the damn taxes and pay for things.  Pay for schools - no brownback bafoons and boobs.  Fix holes in the roads - no brownback bomb holes.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: wetwillie on April 28, 2015, 10:08:13 PM
http://www.kctv5.com/story/19944240/kctv5-investigates-kansas-governor-sam-brownback-spending

He flies from Topeka to Manhattan.


Thanks for posting that. It's pretty funny how detailed they were in the breakdown.

Quote
Travel is a recurring theme in the documents obtained from the state, including some foreign destinations.

In July of 2012, taxpayers covered the $800 cost for Brownback to fly to Germany to attend an air show.

The previous fall, in October 2011, Brownback and other state officials spent $7,000 on plane tickets to Russia and Kazakhstan.

With long flights ahead of him, records show the governor spending another $200 in taxpayer dollars to upgrade his seats from economy to economy plus.

Obviously, any travel outside the United States requires a passport. Included in the records are receipts showing public funds were used to have Brownback's picture taken and his passport processing expedited.


They really really hate him. :lol:

he got a RT to germany for $800? give the man a medal for frugality. 
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on April 28, 2015, 11:51:58 PM
http://www.kctv5.com/story/19944240/kctv5-investigates-kansas-governor-sam-brownback-spending

He flies from Topeka to Manhattan.


Thanks for posting that. It's pretty funny how detailed they were in the breakdown.

Quote
Travel is a recurring theme in the documents obtained from the state, including some foreign destinations.

In July of 2012, taxpayers covered the $800 cost for Brownback to fly to Germany to attend an air show.

The previous fall, in October 2011, Brownback and other state officials spent $7,000 on plane tickets to Russia and Kazakhstan.

With long flights ahead of him, records show the governor spending another $200 in taxpayer dollars to upgrade his seats from economy to economy plus.

Obviously, any travel outside the United States requires a passport. Included in the records are receipts showing public funds were used to have Brownback's picture taken and his passport processing expedited.


They really really hate him. :lol:

he got a RT to germany for $800? give the man a medal for frugality.

Flying "economy plus" no less. Is that an extra bag of peanuts? Or maybe an exit row. Either way, the governor of Kansas filed past the first class'rs on the way back to coach, which is pretty funny.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Dugout DickStone on April 28, 2015, 11:53:05 PM
He had to sit with the HINRY's
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Tobias on April 29, 2015, 12:26:24 AM
gaia has him enraged
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on April 29, 2015, 09:05:46 AM
Economy Plus = 2" of additional leg room and a chair that reclines 8 degrees
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Dugout DickStone on April 29, 2015, 09:35:23 AM
I appreciate the German air show business connections he has made for our state
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: star seed 7 on June 07, 2015, 03:57:46 PM
Omg  :lol:

Quote
The fight between Gov. Sam Brownback of Kansas and the state’s judicial branch has escalated, with the governor last week signing into law a bill that could strip state courts of their funding.

The measure, at the end of a lengthy bill that allocated money for the judiciary this year, stipulates that if a state court strikes down a 2014 law that removed some powers from the State Supreme Court, the judiciary will lose its funding.

The 2014 law took the authority to appoint district court judges from the Supreme Court and gave it to the district courts themselves. It also deprived the state’s highest court of the right to set district court budgets. Critics said the law was an attempt by Mr. Brownback, a Republican, to stack the district courts with judges who may be more favorable to his policies.

The budget bill that Mr. Brownback signed on Thursday was related only to the judiciary. He said he wanted to ensure that the courts would remain open while lawmakers sparred over the larger budget issues. Lawmakers have been debating how to fill a $400 million shortfall, which will most likely require tax increases that Mr. Brownback and many in the conservative-dominated Legislature oppose. If a budget is not passed by Sunday, state workers may be furloughed.

But in passing a separate budget bill to keep the third branch of government from shutting down, Republican lawmakers took the opportunity to insert language that would shield the 2014 law.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: nicname on June 07, 2015, 04:51:15 PM
Kansas government really is spectacular news right now. It's just a shame we're not all that important on a national level. Can you imagine if it were California or something with all of this going on?

Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Dugout DickStone on June 07, 2015, 05:45:17 PM
Kansas government really is spectacular news right now. It's just a shame we're not all that important on a national level. Can you imagine if it were California or something with all of this going on?

True.  Brownback realized he can't ever run for President so he just went BID
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: nicname on June 07, 2015, 05:55:32 PM
Kansas government really is spectacular news right now. It's just a shame we're not all that important on a national level. Can you imagine if it were California or something with all of this going on?

True.  Brownback realized he can't ever run for President so he just went BID

Who would play Brownback in a Movie/ TV show?
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on June 07, 2015, 06:15:05 PM
Michael Keaton
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: RickRampus on June 07, 2015, 07:05:01 PM
Mel Gibson

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Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: CNS on June 07, 2015, 07:22:05 PM
Mr. Bean

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Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Headinjun on June 07, 2015, 11:42:36 PM
It's national now.  Doonesberry did a comic about Brownback that was released this evening. 
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: mocat on June 08, 2015, 08:17:25 AM
Thanks for the link inj
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: massofcatfan on June 08, 2015, 04:11:07 PM
It's national now.  Doonesberry did a comic about Brownback that was released this evening.

now THIS is some news I can use. I thought Doonesbury had gone the way of buggy whips and vhs tapes!
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: star seed 7 on June 08, 2015, 08:41:13 PM
(http://www.kansascity.com/news/local/news-columns-blogs/the-buzz/izn9of/picture23331531/ALTERNATES/FREE_960/doonesbury)
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on June 08, 2015, 10:24:09 PM
Pretty sure that cartoon is a libtard meme.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on June 08, 2015, 10:26:46 PM
Is Doonsbury still syndicated, or is it now online only?
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on June 08, 2015, 10:29:15 PM
"Lowering taxes is an unbroken record of failure" says the cartoon from the funny pages.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: star seed 7 on June 08, 2015, 10:43:49 PM
 :lol:
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Institutional Control on June 09, 2015, 07:19:39 AM
 :ROFL:
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: steve dave on June 09, 2015, 07:24:36 AM
enraged
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: puniraptor on June 09, 2015, 03:57:08 PM
power move

http://www.nationaljournal.com/politics/look-washington-a-kansas-reporter-who-defies-his-sources-20150609 (http://www.nationaljournal.com/politics/look-washington-a-kansas-reporter-who-defies-his-sources-20150609)
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: renocat on June 09, 2015, 04:03:12 PM
RAISE TAXES. BUT DON'T SPEND ON STUPID STUFF
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on June 09, 2015, 11:01:59 PM
power move

http://www.nationaljournal.com/politics/look-washington-a-kansas-reporter-who-defies-his-sources-20150609 (http://www.nationaljournal.com/politics/look-washington-a-kansas-reporter-who-defies-his-sources-20150609)

Interesting how the budget doubled from publishing one article
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: puniraptor on June 09, 2015, 11:14:27 PM
power move

http://www.nationaljournal.com/politics/look-washington-a-kansas-reporter-who-defies-his-sources-20150609 (http://www.nationaljournal.com/politics/look-washington-a-kansas-reporter-who-defies-his-sources-20150609)

Interesting how the budget doubled from publishing one article

pipe up again and i'll triple it
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on June 09, 2015, 11:26:06 PM
The deficit is now $1600 million dollars, largely thanks to a [war on] science experiment, and nothing to do with a blase national economy.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Dugout DickStone on June 10, 2015, 09:52:15 AM
I would think Brownback is as big of an idiot as the rest of the country does if he didn't look so boss in a KSU letter jacket
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: chuckjames on June 11, 2015, 06:28:08 PM
Brownback threatening KU basketball and K-State football is great theatre.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on June 11, 2015, 06:51:46 PM
So if the legislature just packs it in and goes home, it'll just result in a 6.2% cut across the board? Sounds good to me. Why are these pubtards even having this debate?

Pubtards is going to be my new word for republicans when they do stupid crap. I think I'm going to be using that word a lot more often.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: chuckjames on June 11, 2015, 07:07:49 PM
So if the legislature just packs it in and goes home, it'll just result in a 6.2% cut across the board? Sounds good to me. Why are these pubtards even having this debate?

Pubtards is going to be my new word for republicans when they do stupid crap. I think I'm going to be using that word a lot more often.

As much as it hurts my communist heart to say, this is preferable to a sales tax increase. IMO
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: CNS on June 11, 2015, 07:11:44 PM
Doing things without detailed thought behind it is probably the worst thing that they can do.

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Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on June 11, 2015, 08:59:32 PM
http://cjonline.com/news/2015-06-10/capitol-gridlock-taking-toll-gov-brownback-house-gop-members-say

OMG  :lol:
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: star seed 7 on June 11, 2015, 09:02:23 PM
(http://cjonline.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/story_slideshow_thumb/14466218.jpg)
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on June 11, 2015, 09:04:15 PM
Quote
Brownback also made reference, legislators said, to backlash he faced when out in public. In March, for example, he was booed by fans at the NCAA Tournament game in Omaha between The University of Kansas and Wichita State University.

 :bawl:
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: star seed 7 on June 11, 2015, 09:07:16 PM
Quote
As soon as I can draw out $ 20 with my TANF card I will buy him a sympathy card.

 :lol:
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Kat Kid on June 11, 2015, 09:17:25 PM
Quote
Brownback also made reference, legislators said, to backlash he faced when out in public. In March, for example, he was booed by fans at the NCAA Tournament game in Omaha between The University of Kansas and Wichita State University.

 :bawl:

Yeah this really made me think.  Seems like public figures can be really responsive to highly public criticism of them.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on June 11, 2015, 09:20:21 PM
He's probably crying right now because one of his legislators ratted him out for crying during their private meeting.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: puniraptor on June 11, 2015, 09:21:59 PM
Kansas might have the best politics in the Nation right now
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on June 11, 2015, 09:22:12 PM
(http://kctv.images.worldnow.com/images/5422578_G.jpg)
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: star seed 7 on June 11, 2015, 09:31:49 PM
He's probably crying right now because one of his legislators ratted him out for crying during their private meeting.

i'm sure one of his staffers is harassing the reporter about it
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on June 11, 2015, 09:50:03 PM
So Brownback has given his fellow pubtards until Monday to pass a massive tax increase or, doggonit golly shucks, he'll have no choice but to cut $400mil in spending. HOLD THE LINE!!! :Woot:
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: puniraptor on June 11, 2015, 09:52:28 PM
Might as well ride this grand experiment into the apocalyptic wasteland I have been preparing for my whole life
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on June 11, 2015, 09:55:32 PM
So Brownback has given his fellow pubtards until Monday to pass a massive tax increase or, doggonit golly shucks, he'll have no choice but to cut $400mil in spending. HOLD THE LINE!!! :Woot:

 :D
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Kat Kid on June 11, 2015, 10:30:42 PM
So Brownback has given his fellow pubtards until Monday to pass a massive tax increase or, doggonit golly shucks, he'll have no choice but to cut $400mil in spending. HOLD THE LINE!!! :Woot:

Quote
TOPEKA, Kan. (WIBW/AP) -- Gov. Sam Brownback says he would consider cutting $394 million from funding for state universities if the Legislature does not pass tax increases to balance the state's budget by Monday.

Brownback said Thursday during a meeting of Republican legislators that vetoing universities' funding is one of his options.

"The governor's announcement this afternoon of a possible veto of all public higher education funding puts the state of Kansas in an unprecedented situation," stated Andy Tompkins, President and CEO of the Kansas Board of Regents.

"To completely defund higher education will have a devastating and long-lasting effect on students, families, businesses, and the entire economy of the State of Kansas," he added.

The Legislature has passed a $15.4 billion budget that requires about $400 million in tax increases to balance.

Budget Director Shawn Sullivan said the governor also could veto the budget and call a special legislative session or enact an across-the-board cut to all state agencies.

If Brownback opted to veto universities' funding, they'd lose money for operating expenses. Sullivan said they still could continue to pay staff from tuition funds, but not for long.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: star seed 7 on June 11, 2015, 10:34:56 PM
I guess one way to attract factories is to have plenty of uneducated people to staff them with
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Tobias on June 11, 2015, 10:48:50 PM
:woot:
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: puniraptor on June 11, 2015, 10:51:27 PM
Are we going to have to consolidate school districts with skwak U :runaway:
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: CNS on June 11, 2015, 11:02:09 PM
I guess one way to attract factories is to have plenty of uneducated people to staff them with
less education and more guns!

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Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: puniraptor on June 11, 2015, 11:09:38 PM
One Kansas Bullet Farmer arms 128 people
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: puniraptor on June 11, 2015, 11:10:38 PM
One Kansas Bullet Farmer arms 128 people
And you!
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on June 11, 2015, 11:56:46 PM
I guess one way to attract factories is to have plenty of uneducated people to staff them with

Yes, where will factories ever get their workers if we cut $400 million from higher ed? :runaway: Those schools might even have to dig a bit deeper into their endowments! :bawl:

But I agree, I'd much prefer to squeeze at least $200mil out of K-12.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on June 12, 2015, 12:04:12 AM
(http://cdn.meme.am/instances/500x/61467017.jpg)
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on June 12, 2015, 12:05:39 AM
Might as well ride this grand experiment into the apocalyptic wasteland I have been preparing for my whole life

Seriously? Are you a prepper? I'd like to learn more about this if you haven't already started a thread.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: steve dave on June 12, 2015, 07:01:24 AM
the entire nation already makes fun of the new KS. our college grads being complete dumbfucks is probably already assumed at this point. may as well make it reality.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on June 12, 2015, 07:10:50 AM
the entire nation already makes fun of the new KS. our college grads being complete dumbfucks is probably already assumed at this point. may as well make it reality.

If you're really concerned about that, maybe we should focus on just raising admission standards.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on June 12, 2015, 07:14:53 AM
Three days to go.

(http://cdn.meme.am/instances/53773038.jpg)
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: michigancat on June 12, 2015, 07:16:39 AM
I guess one way to attract factories is to have plenty of uneducated people to staff them with
I'm not sure this is a very good strategy, lib.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: puniraptor on June 12, 2015, 07:29:45 AM
Might as well ride this grand experiment into the apocalyptic wasteland I have been preparing for my whole life

Seriously? Are you a prepper? I'd like to learn more about this if you haven't already started a thread.
#prephackers. My preps are 99% mental, which is fine because true preparation comes from within.

I would appreciate a heads up on the grid going down though so I have time to weld spikes onto the hellantra.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on June 12, 2015, 08:18:56 AM
Per the newspaper, the budget impasse is nearly over.

It is, of course, damning to poors and all about the rich:
Quote
he House plan includes the governor’s proposal to eliminate income taxes for 380,000 low-income Kansans starting in tax year 2016.

And lol at the lazy ass democrats:
Quote
The House began debate on a pair of bills at 1:30 a.m. meant to plug the state’s nearly $400 million budget hole. It did not pass until after 4 a.m.

Democrats castigated Republican leaders for holding the debate at such an hour when lawmakers are weary
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: ednksu on June 12, 2015, 08:32:25 AM
http://www.pitch.com/FastPitch/archives/2015/06/11/report-sam-brownback-cried-during-a-private-meeting-with-republicans-last-night

Sam cries like a bitch.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: ednksu on June 12, 2015, 08:34:12 AM
Per the newspaper, the budget impasse is nearly over.

It is, of course, damning to poors and all about the rich:
Quote
he House plan includes the governor’s proposal to eliminate income taxes for 380,000 low-income Kansans starting in tax year 2016.

And lol at the lazy ass democrats:
Quote
The House began debate on a pair of bills at 1:30 a.m. meant to plug the state’s nearly $400 million budget hole. It did not pass until after 4 a.m.

Democrats castigated Republican leaders for holding the debate at such an hour when lawmakers are weary

Yeah because the state reaps sooooo much money from those 380k.  Do you want to talk about how sales tax or sin taxes hurt the poor disproportionately?  I'll wait for you to take econ 101.


Also: LOL we're charging fees to nursing homes and places for the disabled.  So Christ, much Christian.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: steve dave on June 12, 2015, 08:35:21 AM
http://www.pitch.com/FastPitch/archives/2015/06/11/report-sam-brownback-cried-during-a-private-meeting-with-republicans-last-night

Sam cries like a bitch.

Quote
Brownback also made reference, legislators said, to backlash he faced when out in public. In March, for example, he was booed by fans at the NCAA Tournament game in Omaha between The University of Kansas and Wichita State University.

 :lol:
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on June 12, 2015, 08:40:37 AM
http://www.pitch.com/FastPitch/archives/2015/06/11/report-sam-brownback-cried-during-a-private-meeting-with-republicans-last-night

Sam cries like a bitch.

Quote
Brownback also made reference, legislators said, to backlash he faced when out in public. In March, for example, he was booed by fans at the NCAA Tournament game in Omaha between The University of Kansas and Wichita State University.

 :lol:

another fun sam fact- he makes the budget people say prayers with him during meetings. like everyone is expected to hold hands and bow heads and close eyes and pray about the kansas budget. that's a fact.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: CNS on June 12, 2015, 09:12:00 AM
Those 380k will still be taxed on every dollar they make, just in consumption rather than income. 

Also, the original bill had a lower food tax starting next year.  The house snuffed that out.

Middle class was the real target here.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on June 12, 2015, 09:15:19 AM
Those 380k will still be taxed on every dollar they make, just in consumption rather than income. 

Also, the original bill had a lower food tax starting next year.  The house snuffed that out.

Middle class was the real target here.

If you don't want to pay taxes, just make more money. It's pretty simple.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Dugout DickStone on June 12, 2015, 09:36:38 AM
Maybe the weakest leader I have ever seen.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: CNS on June 12, 2015, 09:37:16 AM
Maybe the weakest leader I have ever seen.

Stop.  You're going to make him cry.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on June 12, 2015, 09:44:34 AM
Could you just imagine how bad he would be as President? Why would he even want that?
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: CNS on June 12, 2015, 09:52:00 AM
Could you just imagine how bad he would be as President? Why would he even want that?

Yeah, in the grand scheme of things, KS is a wet paper bag, and Sam can't even manage his way out of it.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Institutional Control on June 12, 2015, 10:36:34 AM
The KS GOP has set the conservative movement back 15 years to the 1930s.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: puniraptor on June 12, 2015, 10:37:50 AM
The KS GOP has set the conservative movement back 15 years to the 1930s.
Possible false flag conspiracy?
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: CNS on June 12, 2015, 10:39:27 AM
The KS GOP has set the conservative movement back 15 years to the 1930s.
Possible false flag conspiracy?

KS: as secretly blue as it gets
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: star seed 7 on June 12, 2015, 01:07:51 PM
So when is the state tour recreating the crying?
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on June 12, 2015, 01:10:26 PM
So when is the state tour recreating the crying?

He will probably be at the K-State v KU football game this fall. We should boo him there and see if he cries.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: CNS on June 12, 2015, 01:58:24 PM
Sam crying is so fantastically entertaining to read about given that he is the guy who bullies teen aged girls on twitter for saying they don't like him.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: steve dave on June 12, 2015, 02:28:38 PM
He's just mean to the teenage girls because their words hurt him so badly
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: mocat on June 12, 2015, 02:31:24 PM
The KS GOP has set the conservative movement back 15 years to the 1930s.

 :lol:
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on June 12, 2015, 03:14:35 PM
Per the newspaper, the budget impasse is nearly over.

It is, of course, damning to poors and all about the rich:
Quote
he House plan includes the governor’s proposal to eliminate income taxes for 380,000 low-income Kansans starting in tax year 2016.

M
And lol at the lazy ass democrats:
Quote
The House began debate on a pair of bills at 1:30 a.m. meant to plug the state’s nearly $400 million budget hole. It did not pass until after 4 a.m.

Democrats castigated Republican leaders for holding the debate at such an hour when lawmakers are weary

Yeah because the state reaps sooooo much money from those 380k.  Do you want to talk about how sales tax or sin taxes hurt the poor disproportionately?  I'll wait for you to take econ 101.


Also: LOL we're charging fees to nursing homes and places for the disabled.  So Christ, much Christian.

y calculator says the 0.35% increase in sales tax would cost your average "poor" person who spends $30,000 on consumable goods $105 per year. Which is the equivalent of taxes on $3888 in AGI at the current 2.7% marginal rate for married people on their first $30000 in income. So, it's hard to imagine a scenario where this isn't better for poor people. Maybe those who don't work . . .

BTW, the 2.7% marginal rate represents a drastic reduction under the evil tax experiment from prior policy.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on June 12, 2015, 03:17:31 PM
Lots of Brownbacksidehurt in this thread. He's begging the legislature to raise taxes and the libtards are bashing him. It should be a libtard wet dream.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on June 12, 2015, 03:19:12 PM
The democrats can't even muster a few measly state house seats, let alone raise taxes. And here's old Sam tax and spending like a European socialist, and the libtards are enraged.

Weird
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Institutional Control on July 08, 2015, 01:51:32 PM
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/07/07/1400155/-Sam-Brownback-R-KS-Signs-Sweeping-Anti-LGBT-Executive-Order
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on July 08, 2015, 01:58:27 PM
He is such a loser.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: lopakman on July 08, 2015, 02:52:47 PM
He is such a loser.

You've had some great posts today.  Keep up the good work.   :cheers:
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: AbeFroman on July 08, 2015, 02:53:28 PM
Willing to bet he is closet homosexual. Anyone that spends this much time and effort on this stuff usually gets outed eventually (see: most anti-gay preachers)
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: CNS on July 08, 2015, 02:54:30 PM
He is doing a very good job of representing the majority of his constituency. 
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Unruly on July 08, 2015, 02:59:15 PM
That IDGAF face in the picture of that article is pretty boss.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Brock Landers on July 08, 2015, 03:00:12 PM
That IDGAF face in the picture of that article is pretty boss.


Yes it's very meme-able.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: sys on July 08, 2015, 03:21:14 PM
He is doing a very good job of representing the majority of his constituency.

my father does everything he can to try and escape this fact.  he likes to pretend that brownback somehow tricked kansans into voting for him and fantasize that they're going to rise up and unelect him and his ilk at the very next opportunity.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: CNS on July 08, 2015, 03:56:14 PM
He is doing a very good job of representing the majority of his constituency.

my father does everything he can to try and escape this fact.  he likes to pretend that brownback somehow tricked kansans into voting for him and fantasize that they're going to rise up and unelect him and his ilk at the very next opportunity.

I wish the same, but reality is what it is.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on July 08, 2015, 04:00:42 PM
I know a few Brownback supporters who are genuinely pissed that he raised taxes.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: CNS on July 08, 2015, 04:01:53 PM
I know a few Brownback supporters who are genuinely pissed that he raised taxes.

Yeah, but he totally just made up for that by hating on Gays and mushing Obama's new BFF Roberts and his kangaroo court.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Trogdor on July 08, 2015, 04:40:48 PM
That IDGAF face in the picture of that article is pretty boss.


Yes it's very meme-able.

(http://i.imgur.com/pB6pa1a.png)
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on July 08, 2015, 04:43:51 PM
Sam looks like he was recently booed at a sporting event in that photo.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: CNS on July 08, 2015, 05:07:18 PM
That IDGAF face in the picture of that article is pretty boss.


Yes it's very meme-able.
i think they (govt) would not think twice about demolishing fort riley without giving riley county anything in return

(http://i825.photobucket.com/albums/zz177/cnscasey/BrownbackNotsureifserious_zps66fd6758.png)
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Dugout DickStone on July 08, 2015, 07:46:47 PM
He plays his constituency for the dumb asses they are.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: CNS on July 08, 2015, 08:23:13 PM
He plays his constituency for the dumb asses they are.
I don't think he is playing anyone.  That implies he is different.  I think he is a fellow dumbass. 

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Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Dugout DickStone on July 08, 2015, 08:50:42 PM
He plays his constituency for the dumb asses they are.
I don't think he is playing anyone.  That implies he is different.  I think he is a fellow dumbass. 

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I think knows he can distract the voters from his historical failure and then raising taxes by hating gays

It's such a cheap and transparent parlor trick
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on July 08, 2015, 08:53:02 PM
He plays his constituency for the dumb asses they are.
I don't think he is playing anyone.  That implies he is different.  I think he is a fellow dumbass. 

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I think knows he can distract the voters from his historical failure and then raising taxes by hating gays

It's such a cheap and transparent parlor trick

He's hated gays for his entire political career, though. He'd be doing this even if he was a huge success and everyone loved him. This is just good timing for him.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: star seed 7 on July 08, 2015, 08:53:54 PM
I wonder if he cried about all the pain the supreme court inflicted on ks
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Spracne on July 08, 2015, 09:17:42 PM
That IDGAF face in the picture of that article is pretty boss.


Yes it's very meme-able.

(http://i.imgur.com/pB6pa1a.png)

He looks puffy, swollen and tired.  What a gay bad person...
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: star seed 7 on July 08, 2015, 09:26:44 PM
 :shy:
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: renocat on July 08, 2015, 10:46:43 PM
When does A new contrived civil right trump first  amendment rights.   Brownie seems to have found a good balance on this issue.  The state's fiscal situation though is a disgrace.  So is our new Wyatt Erp hide a gun in my pants law. Don't argue with anyone especially if they have their hands in their pants.  They ain't playing with Ralphie.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Cire on July 08, 2015, 10:59:01 PM
When does A new contrived civil right trump first  amendment rights.

said the South Circa 1954
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: AbeFroman on July 09, 2015, 09:24:56 AM
I know a few Brownback supporters who are genuinely pissed that he raised taxes.

Overall I doubt anyone cares. His supporters just say "herp derp he's the same religion as me, yay God" and then follow it up with "Hi Welcome to walmart"
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: sys on August 09, 2015, 12:57:49 AM
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/09/magazine/the-kansas-experiment.html?mwrsm=Facebook&_r=0

a very good article.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: slobber on August 09, 2015, 06:21:22 AM
His brother...WTF? In Cold Blood part II?
 http://cjonline.com/news/2015-08-08/sam-brownbacks-brother-accused-terrorizing-rural-neighbors (http://cjonline.com/news/2015-08-08/sam-brownbacks-brother-accused-terrorizing-rural-neighbors)
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Canary on August 09, 2015, 10:19:38 AM
His brother...WTF? In Cold Blood part II?
 http://cjonline.com/news/2015-08-08/sam-brownbacks-brother-accused-terrorizing-rural-neighbors (http://cjonline.com/news/2015-08-08/sam-brownbacks-brother-accused-terrorizing-rural-neighbors)
That's a crazy situation. I hadn't ever heard about that before. Chilling at times.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: chunkles on August 09, 2015, 10:43:16 AM
I painted a quick picture of gov. Brownback during his clicker zombie illness.
(http://i.imgur.com/yArflwO.jpg)
T's and p's
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Kat Kid on August 09, 2015, 11:15:18 AM
His brother...WTF? In Cold Blood part II?
 http://cjonline.com/news/2015-08-08/sam-brownbacks-brother-accused-terrorizing-rural-neighbors (http://cjonline.com/news/2015-08-08/sam-brownbacks-brother-accused-terrorizing-rural-neighbors)

That story is unbelievable.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Canary on August 09, 2015, 12:34:02 PM
It's so unbelievable that it probably is fairly accurate.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: wetwillie on August 09, 2015, 01:05:45 PM
Sounds like typical small town kansas shenanigans
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: star seed 7 on August 09, 2015, 01:06:58 PM
Get larry asbury on this immediately
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: 8manpick on August 09, 2015, 01:09:47 PM
I've seen an old car get blown up by Tannerite... That crap is fantastic. @Manbearpig probably has video of it somewhere
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: CNS on August 09, 2015, 01:27:58 PM
Given how swiftly and ridiculously Sam attacks high school girls who disrespect him on twitter,  I have no doubt that he has gone to extreme lengths to keep his fuckface family out of the pen and out of the news. 

Sad.  A guy like his bro can't drunk drive himself into a fatal accident fast enough, if that stuff is even half true.

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Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: michigancat on August 09, 2015, 10:14:37 PM
Get larry asbury on this immediately
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/08/09/208e4edc17d8f3db13baf9dbe6704f16.jpg)
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: star seed 7 on August 09, 2015, 11:44:49 PM
 :shy:
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: michigancat on August 10, 2015, 12:00:13 AM
Larry has more thoughts on the matter

(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/08/09/e163a82b16f3c4f58b6ec51ce2be250c.jpg)
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: star seed 7 on August 10, 2015, 01:15:53 AM
 :lol:
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: steve dave on August 10, 2015, 08:45:37 AM
 :lol:
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: MakeItRain on August 10, 2015, 08:46:06 AM
Sounds like typical small town kansas shenanigans

Either you didn't read that article or you aren't familiar with small towns, or any town for that matter. Jim Brownback is a legit sociopath.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: AbeFroman on August 10, 2015, 10:25:54 AM

(http://cjonline.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/story_slideshow_thumb/14623518.jpg)
Are we sure Jim is a real person and not just Sam with a bad wig/glued on beard fuzz?
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Asteriskhead on August 10, 2015, 10:44:25 AM

(http://cjonline.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/story_slideshow_thumb/14623518.jpg)
Are we sure Jim is a real person and not just Sam with a bad wig/glued on beard fuzz?

Jim is a very real person, and that's all I've got to say about that.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: slobber on August 10, 2015, 11:23:02 AM
I want that dead cow emoticon


Gonna win 'em all!
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: star seed 7 on August 10, 2015, 12:22:14 PM
I want that dead cow emoticon


Gonna win 'em all!

I would like everything there to be an emoticon
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Dugout DickStone on August 11, 2015, 09:38:19 AM

(http://cjonline.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/story_slideshow_thumb/14623518.jpg)
Are we sure Jim is a real person and not just Sam with a bad wig/glued on beard fuzz?

Jim is a very real person, and that's all I've got to say about that.

If you have hot Parker scoop, you gotta lay it down in here.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: AbeFroman on August 11, 2015, 11:53:09 AM
Guys, Sam is coming to my job next week for a ribbon cutting ceremony. I'm not sure I'm going to be able to bite my tongue. What do?
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Canary on August 11, 2015, 12:06:30 PM
Guys, Sam is coming to my job next week for a ribbon cutting ceremony. I'm not sure I'm going to be able to bite my tongue. What do?
I see Sam at church.  I have to remind myself what being a Christian is all about every time. :)
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: brandochav on August 11, 2015, 12:11:53 PM
Guys, Sam is coming to my job next week for a ribbon cutting ceremony. I'm not sure I'm going to be able to bite my tongue. What do?
I see Sam at church.  I have to remind myself what being a Christian is all about every time. :)

By willful silence while being subjected to the ills of wealth COLUSION and greed, in hopes of a reward in the afterlife? Man, I bet the Romans, or any oppressor, would loved that teaching.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: AbeFroman on August 11, 2015, 12:12:48 PM
Guys, Sam is coming to my job next week for a ribbon cutting ceremony. I'm not sure I'm going to be able to bite my tongue. What do?
I see Sam at church.  I have to remind myself what being a Christian is all about every time. :)

Well Step 1 to being a Christian would be to not be like Sam Brownback
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Canary on August 11, 2015, 12:14:26 PM
Guys, Sam is coming to my job next week for a ribbon cutting ceremony. I'm not sure I'm going to be able to bite my tongue. What do?
I see Sam at church.  I have to remind myself what being a Christian is all about every time. :)

Well Step 1 to being a Christian would be to not be like Sam Brownback
Some days it's easier than others.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: ben ji on August 11, 2015, 01:18:13 PM
His brother...WTF? In Cold Blood part II?
 http://cjonline.com/news/2015-08-08/sam-brownbacks-brother-accused-terrorizing-rural-neighbors (http://cjonline.com/news/2015-08-08/sam-brownbacks-brother-accused-terrorizing-rural-neighbors)

In broad daylight II
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_McElroy


Quote
In all, he was indicted 21 times, but escaped conviction each time, except for the last.[2][3] In 1981, McElroy was convicted of shooting and seriously injuring the town's 70-year-old grocer, Ernest "Bo" Bowenkamp, the previous year.[1] McElroy successfully appealed the conviction and was released on bond, after which he engaged in an ongoing harassment campaign against Bowenkamp, the town's Church of Christ minister, and others who were sympathetic to Bowenkamp. He appeared in a local bar, the D&G Tavern, armed with an M1 Garand rifle and bayonet, and later threatened to kill Bowenkamp.[1][3] The next day, McElroy was shot to death in broad daylight as he sat with his wife Trena in his pickup truck on Skidmore's main street.[2] He was struck by bullets from at least two different firearms, in front of a crowd of people estimated as between 30 and 46.[1] To date, no one has been charged in connection with McElroy's death
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: star seed 7 on August 11, 2015, 01:29:06 PM
I enjoy that the sheriff "suggested" they set up a neighborhood watch and then peaced out
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Dugout DickStone on August 11, 2015, 01:43:49 PM
Guys, Sam is coming to my job next week for a ribbon cutting ceremony. I'm not sure I'm going to be able to bite my tongue. What do?

Wear a Caitlin Jenner t-shirt
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: slobber on August 11, 2015, 02:04:10 PM
His brother...WTF? In Cold Blood part II?
 http://cjonline.com/news/2015-08-08/sam-brownbacks-brother-accused-terrorizing-rural-neighbors (http://cjonline.com/news/2015-08-08/sam-brownbacks-brother-accused-terrorizing-rural-neighbors)

In broad daylight II
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_McElroy


Quote
In all, he was indicted 21 times, but escaped conviction each time, except for the last.[2][3] In 1981, McElroy was convicted of shooting and seriously injuring the town's 70-year-old grocer, Ernest "Bo" Bowenkamp, the previous year.[1] McElroy successfully appealed the conviction and was released on bond, after which he engaged in an ongoing harassment campaign against Bowenkamp, the town's Church of Christ minister, and others who were sympathetic to Bowenkamp. He appeared in a local bar, the D&G Tavern, armed with an M1 Garand rifle and bayonet, and later threatened to kill Bowenkamp.[1][3] The next day, McElroy was shot to death in broad daylight as he sat with his wife Trena in his pickup truck on Skidmore's main street.[2] He was struck by bullets from at least two different firearms, in front of a crowd of people estimated as between 30 and 46.[1] To date, no one has been charged in connection with McElroy's death
Yeah, that is what I meant. Thanks!
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Asteriskhead on August 11, 2015, 02:10:43 PM

(http://cjonline.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/story_slideshow_thumb/14623518.jpg)
Are we sure Jim is a real person and not just Sam with a bad wig/glued on beard fuzz?

Jim is a very real person, and that's all I've got to say about that.

If you have hot Parker scoop, you gotta lay it down in here.

He's Billy Carter.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Canary on August 11, 2015, 02:24:17 PM
Guys, Sam is coming to my job next week for a ribbon cutting ceremony. I'm not sure I'm going to be able to bite my tongue. What do?

Wear a Caitlin Jenner t-shirt
That would be amazing to see happen!
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: bones129 on August 11, 2015, 02:46:07 PM
Guys, Sam is coming to my job next week for a ribbon cutting ceremony. I'm not sure I'm going to be able to bite my tongue. What do?

Wear a Caitlin Jenner t-shirt
That would be amazing to see happen!

Yes, it would. This is a must.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Canary on August 11, 2015, 03:07:37 PM
Guys, Sam is coming to my job next week for a ribbon cutting ceremony. I'm not sure I'm going to be able to bite my tongue. What do?

Wear a Caitlin Jenner t-shirt
That would be amazing to see happen!

Yes, it would. This is a must.
Come on, Abe. We want pictures.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: MakeItRain on August 11, 2015, 04:45:39 PM
Guys, Sam is coming to my job next week for a ribbon cutting ceremony. I'm not sure I'm going to be able to bite my tongue. What do?

I met him last fall, a prominent member of this board whose same rhymes with stevesie felt the need to whisper to me that I need to behave before I saw Sammy.  :shakesfist:
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Stevesie60 on August 11, 2015, 04:54:42 PM
Well now that the cat's out of the bag I should mention that I was with him when gay marriage passed. Fun day.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: star seed 7 on August 11, 2015, 05:07:51 PM
"with"
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: puniraptor on August 11, 2015, 05:13:11 PM
"with"
Biblical sense :surprised:
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: sys on August 11, 2015, 05:13:48 PM
a prominent member of this board whose same rhymes with stevesie.

kendrysie?  kelvinsie?  i can't believe we have a royal posting here and i didn't know about it.   :drool:
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: The Big Train on August 11, 2015, 08:48:44 PM
Larry has more thoughts on the matter

(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/08/09/e163a82b16f3c4f58b6ec51ce2be250c.jpg)

(http://i1346.photobucket.com/albums/p684/The_Big_Train/larry_zpsvrfnhqng.gif)
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: MakeItRain on August 11, 2015, 09:12:41 PM
Well now that the cat's out of the bag I should mention that I was with him when gay marriage passed. Fun day.

Sounds awesome
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: CNS on August 11, 2015, 09:26:58 PM
Well now that the cat's out of the bag I should mention that I was with him when gay marriage passed. Fun day.
How drunk was Jim?

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Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: AbeFroman on August 12, 2015, 01:34:45 AM
Well now that the cat's out of the bag I should mention that I was with him when gay marriage passed. Fun day.

I wouldn't call it "passed" as much as it was stupid bigot politicians getting mushed by the constitution.

Someone make me that shirt. But why Caitlyn? Is that like Sam's most hated LGBT? Does Sam have power rankings of which famous LGBT's he hates the most?
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on August 12, 2015, 08:25:51 AM
Well now that the cat's out of the bag I should mention that I was with him when gay marriage passed. Fun day.

I wouldn't call it "passed" as much as it was stupid bigot politicians getting mushed by the constitution.

Someone make me that shirt. But why Caitlyn? Is that like Sam's most hated LGBT? Does Sam have power rankings of which famous LGBT's he hates the most?

Print the word "Courage" in big bold letters under the photo.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Dugout DickStone on August 12, 2015, 11:47:57 AM
Well now that the cat's out of the bag I should mention that I was with him when gay marriage passed. Fun day.

I wouldn't call it "passed" as much as it was stupid bigot politicians getting mushed by the constitution.

Someone make me that shirt. But why Caitlyn? Is that like Sam's most hated LGBT? Does Sam have power rankings of which famous LGBT's he hates the most?

I just get the impression that Caitlin absolutely drives them nuts.  I could be way off
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on August 12, 2015, 11:54:30 AM
Quote
First day of teacher Inservice. What are teachers afraid of in Kansas? Survey says...

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Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: star seed 7 on August 12, 2015, 12:23:23 PM
Rofl
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: MakeItRain on August 12, 2015, 10:57:47 PM
Those are low point totals, that's a pretty lame round to win.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: AbeFroman on August 13, 2015, 02:31:02 PM
(https://media0.giphy.com/media/Z4paqBLDBfe2k/200_s.gif)
"Sam Brownback????"



Bed news guys, he cancelled on us. None of the politicians are coming. Probably couldn't secure the local news for a fluff piece about jobs creation or something.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: bones129 on August 14, 2015, 12:02:51 AM
(https://media0.giphy.com/media/Z4paqBLDBfe2k/200_s.gif)
"Sam Brownback????"



Bed news guys, he cancelled on us. None of the politicians are coming. Probably couldn't secure the local news for a fluff piece about jobs creation or something.

Did you have the t-shirt ready?
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: AbeFroman on August 14, 2015, 10:45:32 AM
No, but I was about to start a gofundme
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: CNS on August 20, 2015, 01:51:17 PM
He said/she said for now, but I could totally see this being true:
http://www.kshb.com/news/state/kansas/kansas-secretary-of-state-clerk-sues-over-termination (http://www.kshb.com/news/state/kansas/kansas-secretary-of-state-clerk-sues-over-termination)

Quote
TOPEKA, Kan. (AP) - A former state employee claims in a federal lawsuit that she was fired from her job at the Kansas secretary of state's office after she declined to attend prayer services in the office.

The Topeka Capital-Journal reports that Courtney Canfield says in her lawsuit filed in federal court in Topeka that before Assistant Secretary of State Eric Rucker ousted her in November 2013, he "repeatedly and emphatically indicated a basis for her termination as the fact that, 'She just doesn't go to church.'"

The lawsuit names Rucker and the office of the secretary of state as defendants.

Canfield's lawsuit says she declined to attend religious services in the office despite "repeated invitations" to the services.

The secretary of state's office didn't return calls seeking comment Wednesday.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: star seed 7 on August 20, 2015, 02:55:36 PM
Def happened
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: ednksu on August 21, 2015, 11:12:34 AM
http://www.kansascity.com/opinion/opn-columns-blogs/yael-t-abouhalkah/article31716450.html

How much more damage can Sam do before there are mass protests and removal?
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: CNS on August 21, 2015, 11:31:25 AM
3000 are teachers, i bet.  I had heard earlier this month that KS lost 3k, which was like 2k more than normal, iirc. 
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: CNS on August 21, 2015, 11:32:29 AM
Also, as a state we lost something like 1% of the industrial jobs over the last year, while the country on average gained 1.6 or 1.7(something in that range). 

Goooooooo Tax Cuts!
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: chuckjames on August 21, 2015, 01:00:33 PM
Sadly i think this has shown that K-State isn't quite ready to lead the state. We still have too many racist mouth breathing small town fans that Sam represents. Hopefully the next generation does better.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: star seed 7 on August 21, 2015, 01:03:49 PM
CNS, both of those are obviously the fault of kansas democrats
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on August 21, 2015, 01:07:39 PM
Sadly i think this has shown that K-State isn't quite ready to lead the state. We still have too many racist mouth breathing small town fans that Sam represents. Hopefully the next generation does better.

K-State has nothing to do with any of this.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: CNS on August 21, 2015, 01:17:28 PM
Missouri is whipping our ass in jobs, you guys.  Not just in those jumping the boarder.   They are actually creating jobs.   :horrorsurprise:

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Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: ednksu on January 07, 2016, 06:44:54 PM
https://twitter.com/govsambrownback/status/684937295581949953?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

https://twitter.com/keepingsanewth4/status/684939000000348160?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw



http://www.kansas.com/news/politics-government/prairie-politics/article53521535.html



what a eff up
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on January 07, 2016, 07:37:18 PM
Yeah, but IF he lived in KS, he's pay lower taxes on his income from games in Florida and Texas. So based on that, I'm rating his claim "Mostly True."
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on January 07, 2016, 08:39:11 PM
Actually, the more I think about it, I'm not sure what all the butthurt is all about. Gordon would save a lot in taxes if he lived in Kansas instead of Cali. Not sure it would be 1.8mil.

Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: wetwillie on January 07, 2016, 09:43:14 PM
I think the butt hurt is over Sam Brownback's punchable face.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Dugout DickStone on January 07, 2016, 09:48:57 PM
He said he lives in KS which is wrong
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 07, 2016, 10:34:43 PM
Brownback sucks, but gordo does live in the OP.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: sys on January 07, 2016, 10:39:51 PM
it's Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) because he (his staff) was trying to be topical re. gordon signing a new contract with the royals instead a team based in california.  but playing for the royals has nothing to do with living in ks (or ne) in the off season.  by signing a contract with the royals, gordon is signing up to have his home games taxed by missouri.  kansas tax policy is irrelevant.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on January 07, 2016, 10:42:59 PM
does anybody want to weigh in on whether gordon's taxes would be more if he lived in russia or on the moon? thanks.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: bones129 on January 08, 2016, 01:09:23 AM
Brownback.  :lol: :ROFL:
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: CNS on January 08, 2016, 07:02:10 AM
If Gordon, hoz, cain, and moose all got some camo, guns, and minimal grocery supplies, they could just not pay any taxes and tell the govt to go eff itself.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on January 08, 2016, 08:19:52 AM
it's Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) because he (his staff) was trying to be topical re. gordon signing a new contract with the royals instead a team based in california.  but playing for the royals has nothing to do with living in ks (or ne) in the off season.  by signing a contract with the royals, gordon is signing up to have his home games taxed by missouri.  kansas tax policy is irrelevant.

That's not true. Living in KS does matter for at least some of his income. It depends on the state where he earns it.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: ednksu on January 08, 2016, 08:35:04 AM
He claims NE as his residence.  Kansas has literally no impact on his income taxes. And MLB has confirmed that you pay income taxes on all the away game too.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: mocat on January 08, 2016, 08:36:03 AM
but what if he lived in California instead?
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: star seed 7 on January 08, 2016, 08:57:03 AM
but what if he lived in California instead?

Beautiful weather
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on January 08, 2016, 08:59:28 AM
If Gordon filed as a Kansas resident - and he could, given that he lives there for 7-8 months out of the year - his top tax rate would be 4.8%. It would be 13.3% in California.

That's not a purely apples to apples comparison, because Gordon would actually pay more than 4.8% in state income tax playing for the Royals even if he filed as a KS resident. His income from home games would be taxed at Missouri's 6% rate (plus the extra 1% KCMO earnings tax), and KS would give him a credit for that, so he'd pay nothing extra in KS. But 7% is still significantly less than the 13.3% if he lived in California. Filing in KS would also save him additional taxes on money earned from zero income tax states like Florida and Texas (where he would get no credit from KS but would only have to pay the 4.8% on that).

So yes, living in Kansas - meaning he plays for the Royals - saves him a lot of money as opposed to living in California. And if he files as a Kansas resident - as opposed to a Nebraska resident, which has a higher top tax rate of 6.85% - he saves even more money.

The only reason Gordon would file as a Nebraska resident, and pay higher taxes, is if he was absolutely legally required to. I'm not sure that's the case, given that he owns a home in Kansas and spends more time out of the year there than in Nebraska. Not an expert on KS and NE's residency rules.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on January 08, 2016, 09:00:47 AM
Alex Gordon lives in Kansas, so a lot of you have egg (Brownback ' s cum) on your face. :ROFL:

Also, that tweet was pretty cool
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on January 08, 2016, 09:03:37 AM
If he lives in Kansas 7-8 months per year he has no choice but to file in kansas.

The only missouri tax he would pay is that bullshit 1% city income tax, assuming the Royals baseball club is even organized in kcmo
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Cire on January 08, 2016, 09:10:22 AM
where you live doesn't have anything to do with residency in this case
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on January 08, 2016, 09:12:51 AM
where you live doesn't have anything to do with residency in this case

Other than being the sole dispositive fact, your absolutely correct.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on January 08, 2016, 09:14:54 AM
You're  :sdeek:
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on January 08, 2016, 09:28:42 AM
So if Gordon files in Kansas (which he probably can), as opposed to California, he would be saving 6.6% on all income from home games (13.3% versus 7%). That's a savings of at least $600k (I'm not including playoff incentives :Woot:). Savings from away games would vary dramatically, but could easily be another $600k or more. I'd estimate Gordo would save at least $1.2mil per year filing as a Kansas resident as opposed to California.

The savings between filing in Kansas and Nebraska would be quite a bit less, so he may just decide to not eff with it.

This was a fun exercise.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: ednksu on January 08, 2016, 09:32:48 AM
Alex Gordon lives in Kansas, so a lot of you have egg (Brownback ' s cum) on your face. :ROFL:

Also, that tweet was pretty cool

Reading is really hard for you isn't it?
"Royals spokesman Mike Swanson confirmed that he claims residency in Nebraska."
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 08, 2016, 09:33:14 AM
If he lives in Kansas 7-8 months per year he has no choice but to file in kansas.

The only missouri tax he would pay is that bullshit 1% city income tax, assuming the Royals baseball club is even organized in kcmo
This pisses me off so much!
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Emo EMAW on January 08, 2016, 09:39:39 AM
He said he lives in KS which is wrong

No, he implied he will live in KS, which is still yet to be determined.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: ednksu on January 08, 2016, 09:41:32 AM
He said he lives in KS which is wrong

No, he implied he will live in KS, which is still yet to be determined.
Is there some kind of hide post feature I'm unaware of?
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 08, 2016, 09:42:36 AM
He lives in KS dorks. He's OP all the way. Brownback sucks, but it was a stud tweet. Move on.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: chuckjames on January 08, 2016, 09:47:19 AM
If he lives in Kansas 7-8 months per year he has no choice but to file in kansas.

The only missouri tax he would pay is that bullshit 1% city income tax, assuming the Royals baseball club is even organized in kcmo

This is not true at all, you pay state income tax on where it's earned not where you live. Like Chant said..he would pay Income tax to Mo and Kansas would give him a credit so he wouldn't pay any actual income tax in Kansas. Altho he probably has to pay taxes in every state he plays in which would be an ungodly bitch to file. 
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 08, 2016, 09:48:16 AM
Interesting take, by butthurt lib chuckjames.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: chuckjames on January 08, 2016, 09:53:01 AM
Interesting take, by butthurt lib chuckjames.

Not butt hurt at all. Kansas really wouldn't get Alex's taxes no matter where he played. Although I did enjoy Brownback's comment about hoping the powerball winner was from KS so KS could get taxes on it.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 08, 2016, 09:55:57 AM
I mean, I live MO and work in KS and I pay taxes to both states. KS will get something from him. Brownback is the worst human alive, but I thought the tweet was $, because he's got nothing else.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: chuckjames on January 08, 2016, 10:00:29 AM
I mean, I live MO and work in KS and I pay taxes to both states. KS will get something from him. Brownback is the worst human alive, but I thought the tweet was $, because he's got nothing else.

Well yea Bc KS has a lower rate than MO so your taxes paid to other states credit doesn't totally wipe out your liability to MO like it would if you worked in MO but lived in KS. The tweet was an amazing troll, I'll give Brownback's that.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on January 08, 2016, 10:45:40 AM
You pay state income taxes first in the state where your residence is. The word residence has a legal meaning, and it is essentially where you to live the majority of the year. The PR gal at the Royals doesn't just fill in a state postal code and then the DOR from every other state lays down, which is what edna thinks.

Sam is clown suiting butthurt libtards, per usual.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: sys on January 08, 2016, 10:48:35 AM
the tweet implied a connection between having a tax residency in kansas and playing for the royals.  there is no connection.  mlb players have enough off season time that they can establish a tax residency in any state they wish.

Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: chuckjames on January 08, 2016, 10:55:54 AM
You pay state income taxes first in the state where your residence is. The word residence has a legal meaning, and it is essentially where you to live the majority of the year. The PR gal at the Royals doesn't just fill in a state postal code and then the DOR from every other state lays down, which is what edna thinks.

Sam is clown suiting butthurt libtards, per usual.

This is isn't true, you pay state income taxes on where it's earned first, then if you don't get a credit for taxes paid to other states, you'll have to pay the state you reside in too.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: LickNeckey on January 08, 2016, 10:58:38 AM
http://www.accountingweb.com/tax/individuals/update-tax-man-to-mlb-take-me-out-to-the-ball-game
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: ednksu on January 08, 2016, 10:59:29 AM
You pay state income taxes first in the state where your residence is. The word residence has a legal meaning, and it is essentially where you to live the majority of the year. The PR gal at the Royals doesn't just fill in a state postal code and then the DOR from every other state lays down, which is what edna thinks.

Sam is clown suiting butthurt libtards, per usual.

Wow you're taxes must be mumped.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: chuckjames on January 08, 2016, 11:03:46 AM
For example let's say I work in Ohio but live in KS..it's very unlikely that any KS taxes will be deducted from your W-2, but the OH tax absolutely will be deducted. So you're paying Ohio first and then possibly paying KS if you still have a liability after taxes paid to other states credit.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: chuckjames on January 08, 2016, 11:06:02 AM
http://www.accountingweb.com/tax/individuals/update-tax-man-to-mlb-take-me-out-to-the-ball-game

Man oh man..doing taxes for a professional athlete would be worse than doing taxes for a partner in a big law firm.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on January 08, 2016, 11:39:32 AM
the tweet implied a connection between having a tax residency in kansas and playing for the royals.  there is no connection.  mlb players have enough off season time that they can establish a tax residency in any state they wish.

In all seriousness, I didn't get that implication. He never said "because you live in Kansas." Seemed more like he was offering advice in a humorous way - "hey, by living in Kansas you'll save a crap ton in taxes over living in California" - which is true.

As it happens he does live in Kansas for a majority of the year. That doesn't mean he files his taxes as a Kansas resident. I think he probably could, though.

Probably the most inaccurate part of the tweet was the $1.8 million - I doubt it's that high, but it would be at least $1.2 million. But we should cut Sam some slack - he's never been stellar with numbers.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: michigancat on January 08, 2016, 11:50:51 AM
I had no idea MLB players were paid like that. Are all pro athletes paid this way? Seems crazy.

Also, LOL at this discussion.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Canary on January 08, 2016, 12:01:34 PM
I had no idea MLB players were paid like that. Are all pro athletes paid this way? Seems crazy.

Also, LOL at this discussion.
I didn't know that either.  It's interesting, but it makes sense.  Nightmare for an accountant if all of that is accurate. 
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: michigancat on January 08, 2016, 12:04:36 PM
I had no idea MLB players were paid like that. Are all pro athletes paid this way? Seems crazy.

Also, LOL at this discussion.
I didn't know that either.  It's interesting, but it makes sense.  Nightmare for an accountant if all of that is accurate. 

Does it make sense? If I have to travel to another state for work, I don't have to pay taxes there. I would think it's an accountant's dream.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: chuckjames on January 08, 2016, 12:12:56 PM
I had no idea MLB players were paid like that. Are all pro athletes paid this way? Seems crazy.

Also, LOL at this discussion.
I didn't know that either.  It's interesting, but it makes sense.  Nightmare for an accountant if all of that is accurate. 

Does it make sense? If I have to travel to another state for work, I don't have to pay taxes there. I would think it's an accountant's dream.

Technically you should be paying taxes to the state you're  traveling in for business, but it's usually for such a small amount that nobody worries about it. And yea the billable hours has to be off the charts for those returns.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Canary on January 08, 2016, 12:14:49 PM
I had no idea MLB players were paid like that. Are all pro athletes paid this way? Seems crazy.

Also, LOL at this discussion.
I didn't know that either.  It's interesting, but it makes sense.  Nightmare for an accountant if all of that is accurate. 

Does it make sense? If I have to travel to another state for work, I don't have to pay taxes there. I would think it's an accountant's dream.
I guess it doesn't. Wouldn't it be the state in which his company or business is based?  I just don't know at all. 
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: chuckjames on January 08, 2016, 12:17:50 PM
I had no idea MLB players were paid like that. Are all pro athletes paid this way? Seems crazy.

Also, LOL at this discussion.
I didn't know that either.  It's interesting, but it makes sense.  Nightmare for an accountant if all of that is accurate. 

Does it make sense? If I have to travel to another state for work, I don't have to pay taxes there. I would think it's an accountant's dream.
I guess it doesn't. Wouldn't it be the state in which his company or business is based?  I just don't know at all.

No it's where the work is actually performed. Wherever the company is based really doesn't affect where you have to pay taxes unless you own said company.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Asteriskhead on January 08, 2016, 12:19:30 PM
I had no idea MLB players were paid like that. Are all pro athletes paid this way? Seems crazy.

Also, LOL at this discussion.

Yes, all pro athletes are required to pay taxes this way.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Canary on January 08, 2016, 12:21:47 PM
I had no idea MLB players were paid like that. Are all pro athletes paid this way? Seems crazy.

Also, LOL at this discussion.
I didn't know that either.  It's interesting, but it makes sense.  Nightmare for an accountant if all of that is accurate. 

Does it make sense? If I have to travel to another state for work, I don't have to pay taxes there. I would think it's an accountant's dream.
I guess it doesn't. Wouldn't it be the state in which his company or business is based?  I just don't know at all.

No it's where the work is actually performed. Wherever the company is based really doesn't affect where you have to pay taxes unless you own said company.
Thanks for that info. Good to know.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: sys on January 08, 2016, 12:30:40 PM
Does it make sense?

it makes sense for the states that have professional sporting events held within their state borders.  and they're the ones making the laws.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on January 08, 2016, 12:32:56 PM
This is why I never became a pro athlete. Huge hassle.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: chuckjames on January 08, 2016, 12:38:11 PM
This is why I never became a pro athlete. Huge hassle.

This is turning into a tax thread, but this is why whenever someone says all our problems would be solved by a simpler fed tax code has never looked at most states income tax returns.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: MakeItRain on January 08, 2016, 12:44:05 PM
State income tax code is the absolute worst, like everywhere, well at least the states I live in. Iowa tried to tax a house I own in Kansas as income so I didn't file state last year, eff them, this state and their 3 auditors can  :comeatme:
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: star seed 7 on January 08, 2016, 12:49:01 PM
Further proof we need less states
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: chuckjames on January 08, 2016, 12:51:17 PM
State income tax code is the absolute worst, like everywhere, well at least the states I live in. Iowa tried to tax a house I own in Kansas as income so I didn't file state last year, eff them, this state and their 3 auditors can  :comeatme:

Yea Iowa is a shockingly complicated return. Super annoying for such a piece of crap state. I understand New York and Cali having complicated returns, but Its just Iowa.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on January 08, 2016, 01:04:25 PM
You pay state income taxes first in the state where your residence is. The word residence has a legal meaning, and it is essentially where you to live the majority of the year. The PR gal at the Royals doesn't just fill in a state postal code and then the DOR from every other state lays down, which is what edna thinks.

Sam is clown suiting butthurt libtards, per usual.

This is isn't true, you pay state income taxes on where it's earned first, then if you don't get a credit for taxes paid to other states, you'll have to pay the state you reside in too.

If you think someone who lives in a state for 7-8 months isn't paying income taxes in that state, you are crazy.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on January 08, 2016, 01:07:35 PM
Further proof we need less states

Or less government? I like where you're going with this. Taxes are way too complicated.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: mocat on January 08, 2016, 01:10:43 PM
if there was a state that collected no taxes of any kind, that would be the best state
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: mocat on January 08, 2016, 01:11:14 PM
how can states look at you with a straight face and tax you for stuff? what the eff is that man this is america
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: mocat on January 08, 2016, 01:14:27 PM
what if Texas got rid of any semblance of taxes of any kind, and renamed itself Taxless. boom, instantly best state with best everything, and it's not even close.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: mocat on January 08, 2016, 01:14:47 PM
tired of long lines at the DMV? boom, no more DMV
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: mocat on January 08, 2016, 01:15:01 PM
tired of shitty public schools? boom, no more public schools
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: chuckjames on January 08, 2016, 01:16:09 PM
You pay state income taxes first in the state where your residence is. The word residence has a legal meaning, and it is essentially where you to live the majority of the year. The PR gal at the Royals doesn't just fill in a state postal code and then the DOR from every other state lays down, which is what edna thinks.

Sam is clown suiting butthurt libtards, per usual.

This is isn't true, you pay state income taxes on where it's earned first, then if you don't get a credit for taxes paid to other states, you'll have to pay the state you reside in too.

If you think someone who lives in a state for 7-8 months isn't paying income taxes in that state, you are crazy.

A ton of people that work in Mo and live in KS pay no income taxes to KS. I mean you'll pay income tax on capital gains in the state you reside. But you pay taxes to the state you work in first.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: mocat on January 08, 2016, 01:16:37 PM
pretty hard to have potholes if there AINT NO STREETS
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Emo EMAW on January 08, 2016, 01:19:20 PM
These incredibly sarcastic comments brought you by #biggovernmenthandoutarchitecturecat.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: mocat on January 08, 2016, 01:21:24 PM
i cannot think of a single reason anyone should have to pay taxes to the state they work or live in. you literally get nothing in return for it, other than funding yoga mat material in your bacon, and planned hamburger butchering your innocent babies while they yuk it up over cab & brie, smdh
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: mocat on January 08, 2016, 01:23:34 PM
however, on the other hand, i would consider giving more of my paycheck to my state if they considered building crap like this (eff yeah):

(http://goldseek.com/news/CliveMaund/2014/4-28cm/2.png)
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: chuckjames on January 08, 2016, 01:24:45 PM
Further proof we need less states

Or less government? I like where you're going with this. Taxes are way too complicated.

Interstate taxes are always going to be complicated. Not much you can do to keep governments from trying to get their money. I mean I'm sure you'd like every state to not have income taxes but that's not realistic unless your state has the oil FL and TX have. 
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on January 08, 2016, 01:25:13 PM
I love that crap, Mocat! :thumbs:
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on January 08, 2016, 01:44:36 PM
Further proof we need less states

Or less government? I like where you're going with this. Taxes are way too complicated.

Interstate taxes are always going to be complicated. Not much you can do to keep governments from trying to get their money. I mean I'm sure you'd like every state to not have income taxes but that's not realistic unless your state has the oil FL and TX have.

It's more realistic than you might think. Property taxes ensure that people who actually own land in a state pay taxes to that state to help pay for all the services that support the property. Toll roads ensure that people who actually use roads pay more for them, and they're not so annoying now that everything's wireless. Sales taxes works, too. Income tax is actually pretty stupid.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: chuckjames on January 08, 2016, 01:53:08 PM
Further proof we need less states

Or less government? I like where you're going with this. Taxes are way too complicated.

Interstate taxes are always going to be complicated. Not much you can do to keep governments from trying to get their money. I mean I'm sure you'd like every state to not have income taxes but that's not realistic unless your state has the oil FL and TX have.

It's more realistic than you might think. Property taxes ensure that people who actually own land in a state pay taxes to that state to help pay for all the services that support the property. Toll roads ensure that people who actually use roads pay more for them, and they're not so annoying now that everything's wireless. Sales taxes works, too. Income tax is actually pretty stupid.

Income tax isn't stupid, its just the tax your side hates the most for some reason. Sales tax is a much worse tax in my opinion. But we obviously won't agree on that.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: EllRobersonisInnocent on January 08, 2016, 01:54:24 PM
I like how FSD got his ass kicked then gave up on the thread.

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Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Asteriskhead on January 08, 2016, 02:04:21 PM
 :combofan:
I like how FSD got his ass kicked then gave up on the thread.

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Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: EMAWican on January 08, 2016, 02:09:00 PM
:combofan:
I like how FSD got his ass kicked then gave up on the thread.

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What's new, pussycat?
He just meandered over to the KDOT Bond Issue thread.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Asteriskhead on January 08, 2016, 02:13:57 PM
:combofan:
I like how FSD got his ass kicked then gave up on the thread.

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What's new, pussycat?
He just meandered over to the KDOT Bond Issue thread.

He will come back in a little while, throw around some personal insults and then loudly proclaim that he won the hand with a jack, an ace, an eight, a two, and a skip-bo card.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: CNS on January 08, 2016, 02:29:33 PM
I love that crap, Mocat! :thumbs:

Love it or leave it. 
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on January 08, 2016, 02:56:37 PM
Wow, the libtard posse is really fired up today.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on January 08, 2016, 04:18:39 PM
Further proof we need less states

Or less government? I like where you're going with this. Taxes are way too complicated.

Interstate taxes are always going to be complicated. Not much you can do to keep governments from trying to get their money. I mean I'm sure you'd like every state to not have income taxes but that's not realistic unless your state has the oil FL and TX have.

KS has 20x the oil production of FL, whiz bang. 
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: ednksu on January 08, 2016, 04:24:26 PM
Fake maybe you should try to learn about budget basics before commenting again. 
https://www.practicalmoneyskills.com/foreducators/lesson_plans/highschool.php
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: sys on January 08, 2016, 04:48:36 PM
washington doesn't collect much oil/gas revenue, afaik.  living on the washington/oregon border would set you up for a nice little income/sales tax arbitrage game.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: sys on January 08, 2016, 05:16:32 PM
has anyone spent time in vancouver, wa?  i may look into this myself at some point in the future.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: star seed 7 on January 08, 2016, 05:27:49 PM
I read once that it's a lot like Topeka
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: sys on January 08, 2016, 05:40:50 PM
I read once that it's a lot like Topeka

 :ohno:
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: chuckjames on January 08, 2016, 05:50:58 PM
Yea my oil reasoning was a little off. :shrugs:
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Institutional Control on March 18, 2016, 09:39:30 PM
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/03/gop-must-answer-for-what-it-did-to-kansas.html


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Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: puniraptor on March 18, 2016, 09:52:51 PM
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/03/gop-must-answer-for-what-it-did-to-kansas.html


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Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: bones129 on March 19, 2016, 12:54:02 AM
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/03/gop-must-answer-for-what-it-did-to-kansas.html


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Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: star seed 7 on March 20, 2016, 07:23:51 PM
http://www.kansascity.com/news/state/kansas/article66639302.html
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: CNS on March 20, 2016, 07:33:39 PM
KS is an embarrassment

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Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: wetwillie on March 20, 2016, 07:41:25 PM
I wish I could leave
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: CNS on March 20, 2016, 07:57:54 PM
Yep. 

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Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: slackcat on March 21, 2016, 12:54:35 PM
Sam is Brucing my beloved state. :frown:
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on March 21, 2016, 02:42:32 PM
http://www.kansascity.com/news/state/kansas/article66639302.html

Quote
“It’s sort of tongue in cheek, but the more you think about it, the more you can make a case that Kansas is a failed state,” Dickens said. “Look what happened (Tuesday) in the House. (House Speaker Ray) Merrick runs that place like a tinhorn dictatorship."

First time I've heard the terms:
Tinhorn Dictatorship and
Ray Merrick


Also, lol @ these crackers
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: illBisonYourdele on March 23, 2016, 02:45:10 PM
http://www.kansascity.com/news/state/kansas/article66639302.html

Quote
“It’s sort of tongue in cheek, but the more you think about it, the more you can make a case that Kansas is a failed state,” Dickens said. “Look what happened (Tuesday) in the House. (House Speaker Ray) Merrick runs that place like a tinhorn dictatorship."

First time I've heard the terms:
Tinhorn Dictatorship and
Ray Merrick


Also, lol @ these crackers

only ~97,000 signatures to go...
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on April 05, 2016, 09:41:04 AM
https://www.change.org/p/u-s-house-of-representatives-calling-for-the-resignation-impeachment-of-gov-sam-brownback?recruiter=522104237&utm_campaign=signature_receipt_fb_dialog&utm_medium=facebook&utm_source=share_petition
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: CNS on April 05, 2016, 02:11:48 PM
 :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

http://ksn.com/2016/04/04/gov-brownback-declares-april-financial-literacy-month-in-kansas/ (http://ksn.com/2016/04/04/gov-brownback-declares-april-financial-literacy-month-in-kansas/)
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Cire on April 05, 2016, 02:31:51 PM
lol
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: treysolid on April 05, 2016, 02:44:11 PM
hopefully sammy b participates in some of the workshops so he can learn how to balance a budget.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 05, 2016, 03:27:03 PM
He's simply awful. 
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: EMAWican on April 21, 2016, 09:13:21 AM
Interesting read, maybe must-read, but SHOTS FIRED at Kansas.

http://www.vox.com/2016/4/21/11451378/smug-american-liberalism

#ThanksSam
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Cire on April 21, 2016, 09:16:47 AM
money is bad for things.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: star seed 7 on April 21, 2016, 11:05:02 AM
Interesting read, maybe must-read, but SHOTS FIRED at Kansas.

http://www.vox.com/2016/4/21/11451378/smug-american-liberalism

#ThanksSam

What a rambling, smug, piece of crap article. Fairly sure 'lemy wrote it
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Emo EMAW on April 21, 2016, 11:45:37 AM
washington doesn't collect much oil/gas revenue, afaik.  living on the washington/oregon border would set you up for a nice little income/sales tax arbitrage game.

sys that's exactly why my parents chose to retire there.  Kalama, WA.  Also they do their grocery shopping at Ft Lewis (retired military).
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: 8manpick on April 21, 2016, 01:24:12 PM
washington doesn't collect much oil/gas revenue, afaik.  living on the washington/oregon border would set you up for a nice little income/sales tax arbitrage game.

sys that's exactly why my parents chose to retire there.  Kalama, WA.  Also they do their grocery shopping at Ft Lewis (retired military).
Sounds about right
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: bones129 on April 24, 2016, 11:41:55 PM
Does Sam drink much?
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: star seed 7 on April 27, 2016, 12:23:35 AM
 :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Quote
How’s this for chutzpah from Kansas Gov. Sam Brownback?

Last Wednesday, his administration announced the latest in a series of devastating budget cuts made necessary by his fiscally disastrous 2012 income tax cuts.

On Thursday, Brownback sent out a letter in which he asked donors to send “your most generous contribution” to “Brownback for Governor, Inc.” to help him pay off 2014 campaign debts.

The opening sentence: “The liberal media continues to unleash a daily barrage of false and misleading attacks against our state and our values.”

Then in bold-faced type: “The liberals and their allies in the media will stop at nothing to undermine the conservative reforms we are making in Kansas.”

The letter, by the way, does not mention the state government’s tremendous economic woes, which he helped create.

Or the fact that the Legislature returns Wednesday to try to balance the shaky Sunflower State budget.

Or that even some Republican lawmakers are pressing Brownback to end the costly tax cuts for businesses and farmers, which sap more than $200 million a year away from public services.

However, the Brownback letter does seem to know what will play with the ultra-conservative, starve government crowd.

The missive includes attacks on “media elitists,” “leftists in the media,” Democrats and “their friends in the liberal media,” “liberals in the media” and “liberal outside groups.”

Plus this one in boldfaced type: “Some at the local Missouri-based paper in Kansas have even taken to openly rooting for the Kansas economy to fail.” Wonder which media property he’s talking about?

His critics, the governor said, “can’t stand a conservative governor who leads with honesty and integrity.”

Brownback makes the point that the media are ignoring positive things happening in the state.

His top example: “Cut income taxes by over 30% for all Kansans while eliminating the income tax for 388,000 of the poorest Kansans.”

Others include creating more jobs, lowering the unemployment rate, supporting gun rights, funding schools “at historic levels of over $4 billion per year,” enacting a property tax lid for local governments, holding the line on expansion of Obamacare and championing welfare-to-work reforms.

Kansas critics of the governor could nitpick this list all day. For instance, he does not mention any of the court-ordered issues with school funding.

But a few things are plainly missing from that list.

Here are some of the sobering realities.

Just last Wednesday, the day before this letter went out, Brownback announced that road funds would be cut by $185 million and higher education by $17 million for next year.

Because that won’t balance the budget, the governor has asked the Legislature to look at other ideas, all of them bad. They include not making a payment of almost $100 million for now into the state pension fund and slashing K-12 funding by around $57 million.

The governor’s letter also doesn’t mention the more than $1 billion already swept out of road funds in the last few years to balance the budget as well as a number of other financial tricks he’s had to employ to keep the state out of red ink.

The letter neglects the fact that the state’s own labor officials say Kansas did not gain a single job in the 12 months between March 2015 and March 2016.

Brownback’s letter says he needs the money because his 2014 campaign took on “hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt.”

“I am writing to you today to ask that you continue to stand with me in the effort to move Kansas and America in the right direction. Your contribution of $2,000, $1,000, $500, $250, $50 or even $25 will show the Democrats and the liberals in the media that you support me in this effort.”

Finally, before signing off with “Best regards,” Brownback writes:

“Together, we are building a better Kansas and a better America.”

Updated Tuesday afternoon:

“The letter is intended to retire 2014 campaign debt and any funds raised will be used for that purpose,” Eileen Hawley, the governor’s communications director/press secretary, wrote to me in an email. “Money raised by the campaign cannot be used to directly support other candidates.”

Oh, one final note:

On Monday, Standard & Poor’s Rating Agencies put Kansas on its “Credit Negative” list after the revenue shortfalls were announced, bringing with them the “likelihood of structural budget deficit.”
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: star seed 7 on April 27, 2016, 12:27:31 AM
people on this blog voted for this guy.  like actually voted for this guy  :lol:
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: bones129 on April 27, 2016, 01:08:31 AM
people on this blog voted for this guy.  like actually voted for this guy  :lol:

I did not.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Cire on April 27, 2016, 08:33:43 AM
Quite a few people in the state voted for him lib.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: star seed 7 on April 27, 2016, 11:03:27 AM
Quite a few people in the state voted for him lib.

I hold this blog to a higher standard than the rest of the state, even the resident mouthbreathers
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: ednksu on April 27, 2016, 11:51:58 AM
Quite a few people in the state voted for him lib.

I hold this blog to a higher standard than the rest of the state, even the resident mouthbreathers

It's like you've never seen Reno, Fake, Dax, or KSUW post before.....
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: michigancat on April 27, 2016, 11:59:34 AM
Interesting read, maybe must-read, but SHOTS FIRED at Kansas.

http://www.vox.com/2016/4/21/11451378/smug-american-liberalism

#ThanksSam

That really is a great article that probably deserves its own thread. I agree with most of it.

Among the worst are liberals that USED to live in Kansas.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Canary on April 27, 2016, 12:15:01 PM
people on this blog voted for this guy.  like actually voted for this guy  :lol:
I had never been so disappointed in Kansans as I was after that election. If I wasn't so close to retirement I would consider working in another state.  Some members of my family still think he is great based solely on his stance on the big A.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: steve dave on April 27, 2016, 12:18:15 PM
Quote
The missive includes attacks on “media elitists,” “leftists in the media,” Democrats and “their friends in the liberal media,” “liberals in the media” and “liberal outside groups.”
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: sys on April 27, 2016, 12:59:40 PM
Interesting read, maybe must-read, but SHOTS FIRED at Kansas.

http://www.vox.com/2016/4/21/11451378/smug-american-liberalism

#ThanksSam

That really is a great article that probably deserves its own thread. I agree with most of it.

Among the worst are liberals that USED to live in Kansas.

hits a little close to home, although i too agree.  very good article.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: steve dave on April 30, 2016, 12:29:14 PM
http://www.salon.com/2016/04/30/sam_brownback_gutted_kansas_how_americas_worst_governor_and_an_ultra_conservative_ideology_wrecked_an_entire_state/
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on April 30, 2016, 12:35:46 PM
I hate to break it to you guys, but the state isn't materially different than it was 6 years ago, 16 years ago, etc., etc.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on April 30, 2016, 12:45:41 PM
You can read all about it here: http://budget.ks.gov/gbr.htm

Or you can read politically motivated rhetoric at Salon and Vox.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: bucket on April 30, 2016, 01:01:46 PM
I hate to break it to you guys, but the state isn't materially different than it was 6 years ago, 16 years ago, etc., etc.

 :lol:
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Dugout DickStone on May 01, 2016, 03:05:27 PM
I hate to break it to you guys, but the state isn't materially different than it was 6 years ago, 16 years ago, etc., etc.

If you live in wealthy enclaves and send your kids to elite private schools I can confirm its very similar.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on May 01, 2016, 03:45:35 PM
Lest we not forget the poors, who were doing so well until Sam cut their taxes and took away all their money.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: ednksu on May 01, 2016, 03:50:28 PM
I mean Fake is technically correct.  We still have the same number of jobs, it's just that everyone else is adding.  We still have the exact same road materials from 6 or 16 years ago, and hopefully they'll stay in place for another 15 years. 
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on May 01, 2016, 04:05:13 PM
From Democrats

http://www.jec.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/democrats/statebystatereport

It's not awesome, but private sector growth is far from the worst ( illinois)
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: bucket on May 01, 2016, 04:11:26 PM
One credit downgrade. A second coming. How about the highway fund being wiped out. KPERS. Higher educations cuts. Removal of discrimination protections for gay, lesbian and transgender state employees.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: bucket on May 01, 2016, 04:12:14 PM
From Democrats

http://www.jec.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/democrats/statebystatereport

It's not awesome, but private sector growth is far from the worst ( illinois)

"Far from the worst." Strong argument  :Ugh:
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on May 01, 2016, 04:14:16 PM
The premise is "the worst". I didn't choose that.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: bucket on May 01, 2016, 04:15:55 PM
Nice trolling  :jerk:
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on May 01, 2016, 04:19:09 PM
One credit downgrade. A second coming. How about the highway fund being wiped out. KPERS. Higher educations cuts. Removal of discrimination protections for gay, lesbian and transgender state employees.

Is this the Salon talking points memo?
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: bucket on May 01, 2016, 04:23:10 PM
One credit downgrade. A second coming. How about the highway fund being wiped out. KPERS. Higher educations cuts. Removal of discrimination protections for gay, lesbian and transgender state employees.

Is this the Salon talking points memo?

What are you disputing?
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: The Big Train on May 01, 2016, 04:24:23 PM
Kick his ass bucket!
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: bucket on May 01, 2016, 04:38:30 PM
Kick his ass bucket!

He won't respond.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on May 01, 2016, 05:30:26 PM
Threads that have multiple pages are very confusing for bucket type posters.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: bucket on May 01, 2016, 05:52:31 PM
One credit downgrade. A second coming. How about the highway fund being wiped out. KPERS. Higher educations cuts. Removal of discrimination protections for gay, lesbian and transgender state employees.

Is this the Salon talking points memo?

What are you disputing?
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: bucket on May 01, 2016, 06:04:29 PM
I hate to break it to you guys, but the state isn't materially different than it was 6 years ago, 16 years ago, etc., etc.

I didn't read this entire thread. I was merely responding to this question.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on May 01, 2016, 06:17:44 PM
That's not a question, and no you weren't, and even if you were what you posted is stupid.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: bucket on May 01, 2016, 06:35:44 PM
One credit downgrade. A second coming. How about the highway fund being wiped out. KPERS. Higher educations cuts. Removal of discrimination protections for gay, lesbian and transgender state employees.

How is the state not "materially different than it was 6 years ago, 16 years ago, etc., etc." because of these things. They are factual. They are a result of Brownbackistan.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on May 01, 2016, 06:56:28 PM
Anecdotal, material. Conjectural, factual. It's all the same here in the pit.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: bucket on May 01, 2016, 07:12:03 PM
Tap out. Nice to know ya.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: ednksu on May 02, 2016, 11:50:48 AM
Fake ITT
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Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on May 02, 2016, 03:23:46 PM
I found this on the interwebs

https://ballotpedia.org/State_credit_ratings
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on May 02, 2016, 03:25:20 PM
Taking up with bucket
(http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view5/4352456/rolf-drowning-o.gif)

Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: bucket on May 02, 2016, 03:40:20 PM
I found this on the interwebs

https://ballotpedia.org/State_credit_ratings

It has been downgraded since then, and it looks like it'll downgraded again. For the second time in less than two years. Sound economics  :Ugh:
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: bucket on May 02, 2016, 03:46:11 PM
I hate to break it to you guys, but the state isn't materially different than it was 6 years ago, 16 years ago, etc., etc.

Budget bill that passed yesterday delays pension payments. At least they passed a budget  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on May 02, 2016, 03:47:27 PM
Bucket Fact: it will probably happen in the future maybe.

Bucket Fact: If only kansas operated more like detroit, or any of the other liberal utopias with worse credit ratings.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: bucket on May 02, 2016, 03:52:10 PM
Bucket Fact: it will probably happen in the future maybe.

Bucket Fact: If only kansas operated more like detroit, or any of the other liberal utopias with worse credit ratings.

The state of Kansas will have the same credit rating as Michigan if it's downgraded again. Like we both believe will happen.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: bucket on May 02, 2016, 03:56:05 PM
Bucket Fact: it will probably happen in the future maybe.

Bucket Fact: If only kansas operated more like detroit, or any of the other liberal utopias with worse credit ratings.

http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2016/apr/25/standard-and-poors-say-kansas-could-see-credit-rat/

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TOPEKA — A national credit rating service says there's at least a 50-50 chance it could lower Kansas' AA credit rating later this year, depending on how the Legislature handles the state's current budget crisis.

The Kansas City Star reports Standard and Poor's Rating Services said Monday it had placed Kansas on a "credit watch" because of the state's budget shortfall and concerns about Gov. Sam Brownback's proposal for filling the gap.

New revenue estimates for the state recently projected a $290 million budget shortfall through June 2017.

Brownback spokeswoman Eileen Hawley says the governor has presented three options for the Legislature to consider in balancing the budget.

The rating service says it will resolve the credit watch in 90 days, based on the Legislature's actions.

We'll find out in 90 days.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on May 02, 2016, 07:47:44 PM
BucketFact: Detroit is Canadian for Michigan
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: CNS on May 06, 2016, 12:02:30 PM
Moodys(known liberal rag):
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Moody's Investors Service on Tuesday slapped a negative outlook on Kansas' Aa2 credit rating, citing the state's reliance on one-shot measures to balance its budget.

That followed action late last month by Standard & Poor's, which put Kansas' AA rating on review for a possible downgrade after the state lowered its revenue estimates for the current and next fiscal year by $228.7 million.

Governor Sam Brownback plans to divert $185 million in sales tax revenue from the state' highway fund to the general fund and delay a $96.5 million fiscal 2016 pension payment to help fill the gap.

"By continuing to balance its budget with unsustainable, nonrecurring resources, including pension underfunding, it is accumulating large and expensive long-term liabilities that it will be paying off for a long time," Moody's said in a statement.

The credit rating agency also revised the outlook on $2.1 billion of Aa2-rated Kansas highway revenue bonds to negative from stable.

The Kansas budget is feeling the effects from action taken by Brownback and the Republican-controlled legislature in recent years to cut corporate and other income taxes to help the state compete with bordering Missouri and other states for business development and jobs.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: ednksu on May 06, 2016, 12:10:57 PM
It's gonna be great when KPERS has to sue the state and the courts hammer Brownback yet a gain.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Fedor on May 06, 2016, 12:13:20 PM
There is a process to remedy this and I think it is time.
State officials
To launch a recall effort, supporters must submit the following:

-An application indicating the targeted official
-Statement of grounds for recall not to exceed 200 words
-Statement that sponsor is resident of Kansas and eligible to vote
-Designation of recall committee with three sponsors
-List of 100 sponsors to circulate petition
-Signatures of registered voters equaling 10 percent of votes cast in last gubernatorial election
-$100 fee

The application must be submitted to the secretary of state's office, with the exception of recalls for the secretary of state's office in which case the application is submitted to the lieutenant governor's office.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: ednksu on May 06, 2016, 12:16:09 PM
There is a process to remedy this and I think it is time.
State officials
To launch a recall effort, supporters must submit the following:

-An application indicating the targeted official
-Statement of grounds for recall not to exceed 200 words
-Statement that sponsor is resident of Kansas and eligible to vote
-Designation of recall committee with three sponsors
-List of 100 sponsors to circulate petition
-Signatures of registered voters equaling 10 percent of votes cast in last gubernatorial election
-$100 fee

The application must be submitted to the secretary of state's office, with the exception of recalls for the secretary of state's office in which case the application is submitted to the lieutenant governor's office.
I have been told by someone in local politics that the Sec State Kobach has to certify the grounds, which obviously wont happen.

Grounds for recall
In Kansas, the specific grounds for the recall of state officers are defined as follows:[2]

conviction for a felony,
misconduct in office,
incompetence, or
failure to perform duties prescribed by law.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Fedor on May 06, 2016, 01:05:31 PM
There is a process to remedy this and I think it is time.
State officials
To launch a recall effort, supporters must submit the following:

-An application indicating the targeted official
-Statement of grounds for recall not to exceed 200 words
-Statement that sponsor is resident of Kansas and eligible to vote
-Designation of recall committee with three sponsors
-List of 100 sponsors to circulate petition
-Signatures of registered voters equaling 10 percent of votes cast in last gubernatorial election
-$100 fee

The application must be submitted to the secretary of state's office, with the exception of recalls for the secretary of state's office in which case the application is submitted to the lieutenant governor's office.
I have been told by someone in local politics that the Sec State Kobach has to certify the grounds, which obviously wont happen.

Grounds for recall
In Kansas, the specific grounds for the recall of state officers are defined as follows:[2]

conviction for a felony,
misconduct in office,
incompetence, or
failure to perform duties prescribed by law.
Yes, I saw that as well.  I did not know that about Kobach.  I guess we will have to take him out first?
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: CNS on May 09, 2016, 01:42:14 PM
Lynn Jenkins, Pampano, Kobach.  We are so mumped.

http://www.kansascity.com/opinion/opn-columns-blogs/steve-rose/article76190042.html (http://www.kansascity.com/opinion/opn-columns-blogs/steve-rose/article76190042.html)

Quote
Kris Kobach could be next governor of Sunflower State

I would like to note that I called this like a yr ago.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on May 09, 2016, 01:59:10 PM
Jenkins would be way better than Pompeo or Kobach.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: CNS on May 09, 2016, 02:10:10 PM
So far we have two data points on jenkins:

1. absent/missed some amazingly large portion of her actual job pre representative.

2. spends all day, since becoming a rep, to basically heulskamp it up on twitter.

I mean, so far we know she can't read a clock or calendar but that she can use twitter(or at least delegate the twitter work).
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on May 09, 2016, 03:02:36 PM
So far we have two data points on jenkins:

1. absent/missed some amazingly large portion of her actual job pre representative.

2. spends all day, since becoming a rep, to basically heulskamp it up on twitter.

I mean, so far we know she can't read a clock or calendar but that she can use twitter(or at least delegate the twitter work).

It's all relative.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: TCUHornedFrog on May 09, 2016, 04:01:29 PM
Lynn Jenkins, Pampano, Kobach.  We are so mumped.

http://www.kansascity.com/opinion/opn-columns-blogs/steve-rose/article76190042.html (http://www.kansascity.com/opinion/opn-columns-blogs/steve-rose/article76190042.html)

Quote
Kris Kobach could be next governor of Sunflower State

I would like to note that I called this like a yr ago.

 :sdeek: Mullah Brownback could become KSU's president?
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on May 09, 2016, 04:03:38 PM
Lynn Jenkins, Pampano, Kobach.  We are so mumped.

http://www.kansascity.com/opinion/opn-columns-blogs/steve-rose/article76190042.html (http://www.kansascity.com/opinion/opn-columns-blogs/steve-rose/article76190042.html)

Quote
Kris Kobach could be next governor of Sunflower State

I would like to note that I called this like a yr ago.

 :sdeek: Mullah Brownback could become KSU's president?

He wants the job, anyway.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: bucket on May 09, 2016, 05:53:39 PM
Lynn Jenkins, Pampano, Kobach.  We are so mumped.

http://www.kansascity.com/opinion/opn-columns-blogs/steve-rose/article76190042.html (http://www.kansascity.com/opinion/opn-columns-blogs/steve-rose/article76190042.html)

Quote
Kris Kobach could be next governor of Sunflower State

I would like to note that I called this like a yr ago.

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Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on May 09, 2016, 05:56:39 PM
I wouldn't rule out the democrats this time. Brownback is very unpopular and the republicans won't have the advantage of having an incumbent.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: CNS on May 09, 2016, 07:53:05 PM
They will if Brownback bounces to ksu and the LT gov serves out.

Sent from my SM-G900T using Tapatalk

Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on May 09, 2016, 08:51:36 PM
Lynn Jenkins, Pampano, Kobach.  We are so mumped.

http://www.kansascity.com/opinion/opn-columns-blogs/steve-rose/article76190042.html (http://www.kansascity.com/opinion/opn-columns-blogs/steve-rose/article76190042.html)

Quote
Kris Kobach could be next governor of Sunflower State

I would like to note that I called this like a yr ago.

That might be the most butthurt ever squeezed into one article.  :lol:
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: ednksu on May 09, 2016, 09:40:16 PM
I wouldn't rule out the democrats this time. Brownback is very unpopular and the republicans won't have the advantage of having an incumbent.

Also the fact that KSDNC is probably one of the most worthless organizations in the country for the party. Nothing is in the hopper to challenged except for Davis Part II.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on May 09, 2016, 10:52:23 PM
They will if Brownback bounces to ksu and the LT gov serves out.

Sent from my SM-G900T using Tapatalk

Would KSU really name Brownback president, though?
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: ednksu on May 09, 2016, 11:23:39 PM
They will if Brownback bounces to ksu and the LT gov serves out.

Sent from my SM-G900T using Tapatalk

Would KSU the Regents really name Brownback president, though?
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on May 09, 2016, 11:49:39 PM
They will if Brownback bounces to ksu and the LT gov serves out.

Sent from my SM-G900T using Tapatalk

Would KSU the Regents really name Brownback president, though?

http://www.k-state.edu/president/communications/search/committee.html

If K-State hires Brownback, they deserve him.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: KST8FAN on May 22, 2016, 12:23:16 PM
http://kcur.org/post/thanks-tax-cuts-bill-self-highest-paid-state-employee-owes-little-kansas-income-taxes#stream/0

I suppose this could be posted in a couple three different threads.


Tom
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: bucket on May 22, 2016, 01:35:28 PM
http://kcur.org/post/thanks-tax-cuts-bill-self-highest-paid-state-employee-owes-little-kansas-income-taxes#stream/0

I suppose this could be posted in a couple three different threads.


Tom

That article said Snyder gets paid less than Oscar  :sdeek:
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: slackcat on May 23, 2016, 07:02:47 AM
http://kcur.org/post/thanks-tax-cuts-bill-self-highest-paid-state-employee-owes-little-kansas-income-taxes#stream/0

I suppose this could be posted in a couple three different threads.


Tom

That article said Snyder gets paid less than Oscar  :sdeek:


(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/__lf-F8sEB-Y/S_P8RwvL0xI/AAAAAAAAABI/9biVoVxTL0w/s640/Excited+Kitty.jpg)
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: slackcat on May 23, 2016, 07:07:28 AM
Seriously, if Brownback is appointed prez I'll say eff it.  He and his minion are the def of insanity.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: steve dave on May 23, 2016, 08:01:28 AM
http://kcur.org/post/thanks-tax-cuts-bill-self-highest-paid-state-employee-owes-little-kansas-income-taxes#stream/0

I suppose this could be posted in a couple three different threads.


Tom

That article said Snyder gets paid less than Oscar  :sdeek:

well, for better or worse, he does a lot less as well.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: puniraptor on May 23, 2016, 08:03:11 AM
Sam Squawkback
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: gatoveintisiete on May 23, 2016, 09:14:56 AM
Brownback  :curse:
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on May 23, 2016, 09:33:41 AM
Libtard in my office told me Brownback was going to rescind women's right to vote. Also, cutting education funding "literally in half" is a ploy to keep people uneducated so they can't vote against him next time.

Brownbackistan  :curse:
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Brock Landers on May 24, 2016, 02:17:46 PM
http://ksn.com/2016/05/24/cargill-announcement-on-new-location-expected/ (http://ksn.com/2016/05/24/cargill-announcement-on-new-location-expected/)

Cargill announced they are not leaving Kansas for another state.  A net gain of zero jobs!!  I'm sure Sam couldn't get to the press conference fast enough and now his arm must be hurting from patting himself on the back all day.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on May 24, 2016, 06:59:38 PM
Great job, Sam
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: LickNeckey on May 29, 2016, 07:27:09 PM
(http://sd.keepcalm-o-matic.co.uk/i/keep-calm-because-schools-out-forever-1.png)
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: bones129 on May 30, 2016, 01:19:23 AM
(http://sd.keepcalm-o-matic.co.uk/i/keep-calm-because-schools-out-forever-1.png)

This is what Sam wants, a way to privatize even education.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: steve dave on June 01, 2016, 01:11:52 PM
$70 million short. nice work everyone.

http://cjonline.com/news/2016-06-01/kansas-lawmakers-anxious-about-possible-70-million-revenue-shortfall-may
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: CNS on June 01, 2016, 02:29:32 PM
You guys just don't understand trickle down.

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Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on June 01, 2016, 05:14:37 PM
$70 million short. nice work everyone.

http://cjonline.com/news/2016-06-01/kansas-lawmakers-anxious-about-possible-70-million-revenue-shortfall-may

Haven't we all been taught that government debt isn't real and doesn't matter?  :emawkid:
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: sonofdaxjones on June 01, 2016, 05:27:51 PM
$70 million short. nice work everyone.

http://cjonline.com/news/2016-06-01/kansas-lawmakers-anxious-about-possible-70-million-revenue-shortfall-may

Haven't we all been taught that government debt isn't real and doesn't matter?  :emawkid:

Agreed, huge budget deficits, spiraling government debt is just numbers . . .  well at least on the Federal level and as long as a Democrat is president.   

That said, Brownback is still a dumbass.

Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Cire on June 01, 2016, 09:25:47 PM
That is 70 million in the pockets of the job creators


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Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Cire on June 01, 2016, 09:26:10 PM
To create jobs, non LLC of course


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Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: renocat on June 02, 2016, 09:20:50 AM
I hate paying taxes, but dang I hate.stupid kids, no government services, and potholes more; raise taxes.  Sam is getting in the Obamazone.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: treysolid on June 02, 2016, 09:53:26 AM
I hate paying taxes, but dang I hate.stupid kids, no government services, and potholes more; raise taxes.  Sam is getting in the Obamazone.

say what now?
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Emo EMAW on June 03, 2016, 02:37:42 PM
K-12 public education should just be funded on the county level.  Pay property taxes to county, county funds schools in that county. 
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: star seed 7 on June 03, 2016, 02:58:20 PM
Pre-k - PhD should just be paid by the feds. Pay fed tax, feds pay for schools in their country
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Emo EMAW on June 03, 2016, 03:01:30 PM
I'm not sure if the feds would ever be intimately aware of how to fund each and every school district in the entire country.  Much more manageable on a county level.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: star seed 7 on June 03, 2016, 03:04:22 PM
Local government is a bastion of legally crazy extremists (either side) and in no way should they control anything as important as schools
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Emo EMAW on June 03, 2016, 03:18:41 PM
I have no doubt that my county will appropriately fund schools. 
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: star seed 7 on June 03, 2016, 03:29:22 PM
Ah yes, I forgot you only care about yourself
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: CNS on June 03, 2016, 04:33:59 PM
Local government is a bastion of legally crazy extremists (either side) and in no way should they control anything as important as schools

This is pretty true.  Small towns would really suffer.  I know most of my towns recent leaders and they simply aren't qualified to do something like that. 

County leadership may be slightly better, but I doubt it.

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Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Emo EMAW on June 03, 2016, 04:34:50 PM
You guys haven't worked with the feds much have ya?
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: sys on June 03, 2016, 04:36:55 PM
have worked some with fed, state and local govt people.  fed employees are almost invariably smarter and better.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Emo EMAW on June 03, 2016, 04:37:41 PM
Ah yes, I forgot you only care about yourself

I care about my community, my neighbors, my kids, and my own property values.  I certainly care less for some farmer from BFE who leverages himself out the wazoo to purchase more farm ground with a super low property tax rate who doesn't want to pay for his 8 kids' educations.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Emo EMAW on June 03, 2016, 04:39:13 PM
have worked some with fed, state and local govt people.  fed employees are almost invariably smarter and better.

Having done the same, none of them are more qualified to spend my money more than me.  At least the local folks you can get in front of and have a conversation. 
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Tobias on June 03, 2016, 04:41:45 PM
i worked for five years in local government and holy crap, nope nope nope nope.  feds are rough ridin' brilliant in comparison, i don't care where you live
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: wetwillie on June 03, 2016, 04:42:56 PM
i worked for five years in local government and holy crap, nope nope nope nope.  feds are rough ridin' brilliant in comparison, i don't care where you live

ive already forwarded this to Keith and he is NOT happy.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Tobias on June 03, 2016, 04:43:55 PM
didn't work for him :cool:
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Brock Landers on June 03, 2016, 04:58:44 PM
have worked some with fed, state and local govt people.  fed employees are almost invariably smarter and better.

Having done the same, none of them are more qualified to spend my money more than me.  At least the local folks you can get in front of and have a conversation.

That may be true in terms of access but like CNS said above many of them just aren't qualified to make the right decisions.  Do you really trust some small time hayseed with that much money?
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Emo EMAW on June 03, 2016, 06:33:25 PM
have worked some with fed, state and local govt people.  fed employees are almost invariably smarter and better.

Having done the same, none of them are more qualified to spend my money more than me.  At least the local folks you can get in front of and have a conversation.

That may be true in terms of access but like CNS said above many of them just aren't qualified to make the right decisions.  Do you really trust some small time hayseed with that much money?

Compared to some other hayseed with several magnitudes more money?  Absolutely.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on June 03, 2016, 07:29:04 PM
Local hayseeds are infinitely more accountable to their neighbors and constituents than is some bureaucrat at the US dept of education.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: star seed 7 on June 03, 2016, 08:27:32 PM
Department of education  :curse:
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: SkinnyBenny on June 04, 2016, 01:06:48 AM
Local hayseeds are infinitely more accountable to their neighbors and constituents than is some bureaucrat at the US dept of education.

More accountable? Sure, maybe, but they're also still capable of being dumb rube hayseeds that have no business making important decisions.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Dugout DickStone on June 04, 2016, 08:19:07 AM
Let's make our schools into Sunday schools is what I say.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: steve dave on June 04, 2016, 10:32:13 AM
OT but religious institutions not being taxed as businesses is probably the political thing that pisses me off the most.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on June 04, 2016, 04:43:24 PM
I don't trust money with anyone on the dumbass spectrum, fed, state or local.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: bucket on June 16, 2016, 09:30:17 PM
Quote
Healthcare company announces plans to leave Kansas, eviscerates Gov. Sam Brownback in open letter

http://pathfinderhi.com/kansas-isnt-home-anymore/

Jeff Blackwood, the CEO of Pathfinder Health innovations, released a public letter stating the company's intentions to move their corporate office from Kansas to Missouri because of the governor's "destructive policies."

FWIW I've never heard of this company.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: mocat on June 23, 2016, 08:27:43 AM
Quote
Kansas to borrow $900 million to cover next fiscal year

http://www.kansascity.com/news/state/kansas/article85402447.html (http://www.kansascity.com/news/state/kansas/article85402447.html)

 :eek:
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: steve dave on June 23, 2016, 08:59:26 AM
Quote
He said the state's financial problems are caused largely by declining oil and gas markets

well that's good. should turn around any time now.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: CNS on June 23, 2016, 11:06:22 AM
We are borrowing and cutting from things that won't be there to borrow and cut from next yr or the year after, or the year after.  What's the plan, Sam?
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: star seed 7 on June 23, 2016, 11:19:34 AM
We are borrowing and cutting from things that won't be there to borrow and cut from next yr or the year after, or the year after.  What's the plan, Sam?

CNS is dangerously close to being disassociated from the state of kansas
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: sys on June 23, 2016, 01:41:45 PM
What's the plan, Sam?

sell some of the border counties to adjacent states?
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: michigancat on June 23, 2016, 01:43:04 PM
I liked that the state rep used the term "charge card"
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: CNS on June 23, 2016, 01:50:03 PM
What's the plan, Sam?

sell some of the border counties to adjacent states?

We should sell everything west of Ft Riley to Colorado. 
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: star seed 7 on June 23, 2016, 01:55:41 PM
What's the plan, Sam?

sell some of the border counties to adjacent states?

We should sell everything west of Ft Riley to Colorado.

West of Missouri plz
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on June 23, 2016, 02:07:30 PM
What's the plan, Sam?

sell some of the border counties to adjacent states?

We should sell everything west of Ft Riley to Colorado.

That would be a huge win for western Kansas.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: mhkpasa on June 23, 2016, 02:26:12 PM
What's the plan, Sam?

sell some of the border counties to adjacent states?

We should sell everything west of Ft Riley to Colorado. 
:crossfingers: :bigtoke:
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Panjandrum on June 23, 2016, 02:28:09 PM
Quote
He said the state's financial problems are caused largely by declining oil and gas markets

well that's good. should turn around any time now.

I'm glad we've moved away from it being a morality problem. This is at least a step closer to reality.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Gooch on June 23, 2016, 03:13:26 PM
What's the plan, Sam?

sell some of the border counties to adjacent states?

We should sell everything west of Ft Riley to Colorado. 
I'm in and also will be opening a dispensary in Wichita. :woot:
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Kat Kid on June 24, 2016, 03:51:53 PM
Graves signed on for the Save Kansas Coalition that is looking to defeat conservatives and blames Brownback for the fiscal crisis.

Man, Sam is going to be a Trump level pariah soon.

http://d31hzlhk6di2h5.cloudfront.net/20160624/79/ae/87/70/238682375e981de0a5a0ed89/GovernorsLtrLink.pdf (http://d31hzlhk6di2h5.cloudfront.net/20160624/79/ae/87/70/238682375e981de0a5a0ed89/GovernorsLtrLink.pdf)
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on June 24, 2016, 04:10:01 PM
Apparently the Wichita school district has over 400 people in "administration" positions making over $100k per year. That's  $40+ million in salary, and 5%+ of the total budget.

That has to be unique to that one district, right?
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: CNS on June 24, 2016, 04:22:49 PM
I don't think so.  I heard that kck had something around 20 or so.  One was a secretary and one was a janitor, both who have been there for 30+ yrs, so deserve to make more than the avg starting elementary principal, right? 

Admin salaries are stupid high in many of the examples I have been given.

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Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: star seed 7 on June 24, 2016, 04:25:18 PM
How many employees and students does the district have?
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: CNS on June 24, 2016, 04:27:51 PM
Does it matter? 

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Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: star seed 7 on June 24, 2016, 04:34:17 PM
Yes
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on June 24, 2016, 04:40:16 PM
Why don't you figure it out for yourself.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: EMAWican on June 24, 2016, 04:52:01 PM
Don't most administrative positions work the entire calendar year and not just +/-180 days of it?
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on June 24, 2016, 04:57:48 PM
Don't most administrative positions work the entire calendar year and not just +/-180 days of it?

I think school administrators work closer to +/-240 days.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: star seed 7 on June 24, 2016, 05:02:39 PM
You guys are right, who cares to get more information when you can automatically get angry
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on June 24, 2016, 05:22:59 PM
You guys are right, who cares to get more information when you can automatically get angry

lol, wut

You're the only one who thinks it's relevant.

Lib7 :curse:
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on June 24, 2016, 05:25:14 PM
I don't think so.  I heard that kck had something around 20 or so.  One was a secretary and one was a janitor, both who have been there for 30+ yrs, so deserve to make more than the avg starting elementary principal, right? 

Admin salaries are stupid high in many of the examples I have been given.

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I 30+ year tenured janitor and librarian should be making what they're worth, substantially below medium income.
Title: Sam Brownback
Post by: Emo EMAW on June 24, 2016, 05:25:46 PM
Fort Leavenworth has three elementary schools.  Each with their own ridiculously furnished buildings, principals, and administrative staff.  I think one is less than 60 students.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on June 24, 2016, 05:29:43 PM
We should probably back off the schools, guys. Afterall, when their annual revenue increase was slightly curtailed they cut school days and programs, picketed, filed lawsuits and continued raising administrative compensation. All for the kids.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: star seed 7 on June 24, 2016, 05:33:53 PM
Yup, wanting to compare your unsourced >$100k number to the overall number of employees is quite irrelevant...

rough ridin' drunk moron
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on June 24, 2016, 05:35:39 PM
Anger  :curse:

Why is it relevant, lib7?
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: CNS on June 24, 2016, 05:43:03 PM
Yup, wanting to compare your unsourced >$100k number to the overall number of employees is quite irrelevant...

rough ridin' drunk moron

The one I referenced was something 98.1 did a segment on last school year and they got their info from the district itself.  :dunno:

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Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: CNS on June 24, 2016, 05:46:44 PM
I am fine with schools spending as far as percentage of the budget, etc.  Just would like to see the teachers get paid more, have a process for getting rid of bad ones, and lower admin pay.  I know a lot of admin folks and I can only think of 2 or 3 thay should be making 100k or more.

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Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: CNS on June 24, 2016, 05:47:33 PM
Or maybe come up with a better process of getting and keeping good admin and keeping salaries as is. 

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Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: wetwillie on June 24, 2016, 05:48:03 PM
CNS you are inching dangerously close to a moderate position here.  Tread lightly.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on June 24, 2016, 05:51:49 PM
I'd like to see schools focus more resources on education and less on political jack booting and the labor practices 1970s detroit.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: star seed 7 on June 24, 2016, 05:59:22 PM
Fsd, it might surprise you, but generally organizations with 7,000 employees and 90 branches usually have a few people making over $100k

Shocking, I know
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: star seed 7 on June 24, 2016, 06:08:23 PM
And the District has 229 administrators, so your claim is suspect
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: wetwillie on June 24, 2016, 06:12:37 PM
I am fine with schools spending as far as percentage of the budget, etc.  Just would like to see the teachers get paid more, have a process for getting rid of bad ones, and lower admin pay.  I know a lot of admin folks and I can only think of 2 or 3 thay should be making 100k or more.

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You should make your wife become an administrator so you can reap the benefits of the bloated salaries.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: CNS on June 24, 2016, 06:20:38 PM
Oh man!  Have I tried!

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Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: CNS on June 24, 2016, 06:21:42 PM
CNS you are inching dangerously close to a moderate position here.  Tread lightly.

Don't tell Wacky or CF3!

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Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Kat Kid on June 24, 2016, 07:10:56 PM
Fort Leavenworth has three elementary schools.  Each with their own ridiculously furnished buildings, principals, and administrative staff.  I think one is less than 60 students.

Cut military spending.


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Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on June 24, 2016, 07:55:31 PM
Fsd, it might surprise you, but generally organizations with 7,000 employees and 90 branches usually have a few people making over $100k

Shocking, I know

#4thekids  :lol:
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on June 24, 2016, 07:59:23 PM
And the District has 229 administrators, so your claim is suspect

Wow, you managed to funk up Google. Take a cold shower libtard, your angry
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: star seed 7 on June 24, 2016, 08:15:59 PM
In your world, I suppose the district website lies about that sort of thing.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Emo EMAW on June 24, 2016, 08:30:23 PM
Fort Leavenworth has three elementary schools.  Each with their own ridiculously furnished buildings, principals, and administrative staff.  I think one is less than 60 students.

Cut military spending.


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Agreed.  But these schools are also funded by the state. 
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on June 24, 2016, 08:55:58 PM
In your world, I suppose the district website lies about that sort of thing.

In your mind there are 7000 teachers for 50,000 students  :Wha:

Here's the link:

http://www.bizjournals.com/wichita/blog/2016/06/lawmakers-prepare-for-special-school-finance.html

It's easy to understand how people remain ignorant when you see retards like lib7 frequently getting bogged in the minutia and, not only missing the entire rough ridin' point, but coming to insane conclusions based on Internet research.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: star seed 7 on June 24, 2016, 09:05:13 PM
In your world, I suppose the district website lies about that sort of thing.

In your mind there are 7000 teachers for 50,000 students  :Wha:

Here's the link:

http://www.bizjournals.com/wichita/blog/2016/06/lawmakers-prepare-for-special-school-finance.html

It's easy to understand how people remain ignorant when you see retards like lib7 frequently getting bogged in the minutia and, not only missing the entire rough ridin' point, but coming to insane conclusions based on Internet research.

I know you're crap face drunk right now, but schools employ more people than teachers. Without visiting the site again, the district has something like 4,200 teachers. You also implied they have a 800 million dollar budget when it's around 680 million. I'm not sure I'm the one here that is bad at googling.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: star seed 7 on June 24, 2016, 09:13:42 PM
(http://media.bizj.us/view/archive/wichita/user_media/John-Whitmer-1461231*220.jpeg)

This is the guy fsd gets his information from  :lol:
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Tobias on June 24, 2016, 09:37:38 PM
what's your guys' favorite booze?
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on June 24, 2016, 10:31:06 PM
7000 - 4200 - 229 = 2571 undocumented school district employees.

Lib7 :curse: to the interwebs!

Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: star seed 7 on June 24, 2016, 10:40:21 PM
http://newsroom.usd259.org/modules/groups/group_pages.phtml?&gid=1517498&nid=124949&sessionid=78b4649efe1db48cd3cafccb4db3a32b&__utma=253149270.1879821255.1466809528.1466809528.1466820452.2&__utmc=253149270&__utmz=253149270.1466820452.2.2.utmcsr%3Dusd259.com%7Cutmccn%3D%28referral%29%7Cutmcmd%3Dreferral%7Cutmcct%3D%2F

Quote
More than 4,100 teachers, 2,360 classified and support staff, 178 school administrators and 51 central office administrators are dedicated to the education of Wichita's children. The Wichita school district is the third largest employer in the 4-county metropolitan statistical area.

You can keep trying if you want
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on June 24, 2016, 10:45:05 PM
This quirky website says $939 million budget

http://finance.usd259.org/modules/groups/group_pages.phtml?gid=1505364&nid=246829&005f78&sessionid=9dcd8055f4a6397fd347be9acebed002

"State Budget Document" 2015-16


Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on June 24, 2016, 10:52:10 PM
It's cute you've gone from 400+ "administrators" making $100k+ is nothing (while arguing the overall budget is smaller), to denying thereally are 400 administrators at all, just 2000+ "classified" employees.

You're like a broken robot, spewing numbers but incapable of cognition. Such an idiot
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: star seed 7 on June 24, 2016, 10:58:24 PM
It's cute you've gone from 400+ "administrators" making $100k+ is nothing (while arguing the overall budget is smaller), to denying thereally are 400 administrators at all, just 2000+ "classified" employees.

You're like a broken robot, spewing numbers but incapable of cognition. Such an idiot

 Facts :curse:
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: bucket on June 24, 2016, 11:07:22 PM
Ernie Barrett was a communist spy working undercover on the men's basketball team. It's fact because I said so.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Kat Kid on June 25, 2016, 10:03:05 AM
Fort Leavenworth has three elementary schools.  Each with their own ridiculously furnished buildings, principals, and administrative staff.  I think one is less than 60 students.

Cut military spending.


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Agreed.  But these schools are also funded by the state.

Right, but that is because the only taxable entity for property taxes is a Burger King. 


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Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on June 25, 2016, 10:13:56 AM
This quirky website says $939 million budget

http://finance.usd259.org/modules/groups/group_pages.phtml?gid=1505364&nid=246829&005f78&sessionid=9dcd8055f4a6397fd347be9acebed002

"State Budget Document" 2015-16

If you go to page 104 of the budget (signed by the superintendant) you see FTE and average salaries for personnel.  It's remarkable. Teachers are paid on average only more than the bus driver category. There are almost 1000 people in the administrator or licensed professional category. For every 1 teacher fte there is 1+ non-teacher fte.  What in the world is going on at these places?
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Emo EMAW on June 25, 2016, 10:19:22 AM
Fort Leavenworth has three elementary schools.  Each with their own ridiculously furnished buildings, principals, and administrative staff.  I think one is less than 60 students.

Cut military spending.


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Agreed.  But these schools are also funded by the state.

Right, but that is because the only taxable entity for property taxes is a Burger King. 


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Are you saying the state must fund them because they tax a restaurant within the district borders?

IMO funding should come with strings and oversight.  You don't meet some set requirements you don't get the money.  Having an entire administrative staff for 60 kids is ridiculous especially when there is another school 2 miles away.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Kat Kid on June 25, 2016, 11:15:01 AM
Fort Leavenworth has three elementary schools.  Each with their own ridiculously furnished buildings, principals, and administrative staff.  I think one is less than 60 students.

Cut military spending.


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Agreed.  But these schools are also funded by the state.

Right, but that is because the only taxable entity for property taxes is a Burger King. 


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Are you saying the state must fund them because they tax a restaurant within the district borders?

IMO funding should come with strings and oversight.  You don't meet some set requirements you don't get the money.  Having an entire administrative staff for 60 kids is ridiculous especially when there is another school 2 miles away.

An elementary school that small shares lots of staff with other schools.  I am not opposed to consolidation at all, but there are some limits.  People really want their kids to go to a "neighborhood" elementary school and so it is the least likely route for consolidation.


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Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: mocat on June 25, 2016, 11:28:58 AM
FSD was wacky level last night, wow
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Emo EMAW on June 25, 2016, 11:49:18 AM
Fort Leavenworth has three elementary schools.  Each with their own ridiculously furnished buildings, principals, and administrative staff.  I think one is less than 60 students.

Cut military spending.


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Agreed.  But these schools are also funded by the state.

Right, but that is because the only taxable entity for property taxes is a Burger King. 


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Are you saying the state must fund them because they tax a restaurant within the district borders?

IMO funding should come with strings and oversight.  You don't meet some set requirements you don't get the money.  Having an entire administrative staff for 60 kids is ridiculous especially when there is another school 2 miles away.

An elementary school that small shares lots of staff with other schools.  I am not opposed to consolidation at all, but there are some limits.  People really want their kids to go to a "neighborhood" elementary school and so it is the least likely route for consolidation.


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60 kids for a K through 5 school (I guess you're familiar with it?), 12 kids per class, too small, should be closed or fully funded by fed dollars.

Most of the fort folks are only there a year anyway, and the wives don't work.  They can get their kids to one of the other schools. 
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Arkiecat on June 25, 2016, 06:10:44 PM
I would assume that the local school districts of leavenworth get federal money for their schools to account for the lack of property tax lost due to the presence of a post.  I know for a fact Knob Noster Missouri gets in xs of a milliion dollars due to Whiteman AFB.  This is also counted as defense spending in Washington. 
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Kat Kid on June 26, 2016, 12:02:33 AM
I don't get why if you think it is such a rip off, you are cool with the feds paying for it.  There are tons of schools/districts in Kansas that look super inefficient because of our low population density, this is kind of a freak example due to the base.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on June 26, 2016, 09:45:08 AM
There should be a minimum efficiency ratio school districts have to meet to remain eligible for state funding. Like no more than $8000 per pupil in spending, or no more than $500 per pupil in administrative overhead. Use any surplus funds to pay teachers more money or fund kpers
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Kat Kid on June 26, 2016, 09:55:35 AM
There should be a minimum efficiency ratio school districts have to meet to remain eligible for state funding. Like no more than $8000 per pupil in spending, or no more than $500 per pupil in administrative overhead. Use any surplus funds to pay teachers more money or fund kpers

Yeah I don't necessarily disagree with any of that, just know that there will always be a density problem, that problem is getting worse and at some point that will break the formula unless "school" is just online or something.


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Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: CNS on June 26, 2016, 11:53:26 AM
What are other states with density probs doing?  Haven't  rural Alaska kids been doing online only for some time now?

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Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on June 26, 2016, 03:22:26 PM
I'm not sure the sparsely populated schools are the ones being operated inefficiently.

If it's irrational to keep a small school open, it has to close. No need to cow tow to the irrational.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: star seed 7 on June 26, 2016, 03:33:46 PM
FSD: perpetual champion of the rational
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on June 26, 2016, 03:39:15 PM
FSD: perpetual champion of the rational

Thanks for dropping by.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Emo EMAW on June 28, 2016, 01:51:50 PM
I don't get why if you think it is such a rip off, you are cool with the feds paying for it.  There are tons of schools/districts in Kansas that look super inefficient because of our low population density, this is kind of a freak example due to the base.

It's an example nonetheless.  I'm okay with the feds funding it because then it's essentially funded by everyone in the country instead of everyone in Kansas, which because of the increase in numbers and tax dollars available, represents less impact to me (a Kansas resident).  I also consider educating the children of officers sent to Fort Leavenworth for war school a necessity in getting the most talented officers to attend.  It's a small component of the overall mission.

The larger point being, that Hugoton KS probably needs that money a lot more than Fort Leavenworth does.  There are probably more and larger examples for Fort Riley but I am not familiar.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: star seed 7 on June 28, 2016, 02:00:45 PM
Should just federally fund all schools
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Emo EMAW on June 28, 2016, 02:52:49 PM
I'm sure the waste there would be even more impressive.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: DQ12 on June 28, 2016, 04:55:44 PM
I have always been, and remain, strong for Sam. 
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: SkinnyBenny on June 28, 2016, 06:30:48 PM
I have always been, and remain, strong for Sam.


 :ump:
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on June 28, 2016, 06:32:50 PM
I voted for Sam the first time he ran for governor.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: SkinnyBenny on July 03, 2016, 09:52:32 AM
Brownback gets some sweet press on TV!
(x-post from Bill Maher thread.)
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BtNbMD96xgY
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on July 03, 2016, 11:48:38 AM
What would renocat say about this?
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Canary on July 03, 2016, 12:32:24 PM
Brownback gets some sweet press on TV!
(x-post from Bill Maher thread.)
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BtNbMD96xgY

A friend sent that to me via email yesterday.  I can't imagine anyone in the Brownback camp even acknowledging that that is the perception many across the nation have of Kansas. 
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: SkinnyBenny on July 03, 2016, 12:41:10 PM
What would renocat say about this?

Probably a bunch of stuff joined together with a period instead of spaces? :dunno:
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on July 18, 2016, 01:47:36 PM
His approval rating is down to 22%.

http://www2.ljworld.com/weblogs/capitol-report/2016/jul/15/poll-trump-has-big-lead-over-clinton-in-/
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: wetwillie on July 18, 2016, 03:04:54 PM
I can't imagine who those 22% are.  all the ultra conservative people I know think he is a huge dumbass running the state into the ground.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Dugout DickStone on July 18, 2016, 03:27:54 PM
I can't imagine who those 22% are.  all the ultra conservative people I know think he is a huge dumbass running the state into the ground.

jesus folks
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: CNS on July 18, 2016, 05:10:27 PM
I saw a Sportsmen for Brownback sticker yesterday. So, maybe those guys?  Also, ppl that hate the crap out of the Prairie Chicken or something.

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Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: DQ12 on July 18, 2016, 05:16:38 PM
I can't imagine who those 22% are.  all the ultra conservative people I know think he is a huge dumbass running the state into the ground.
The Silent 22%.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: bones129 on July 18, 2016, 11:15:54 PM
His approval rating is down to 22%.

http://www2.ljworld.com/weblogs/capitol-report/2016/jul/15/poll-trump-has-big-lead-over-clinton-in-/

It will get lower.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: star seed 7 on July 18, 2016, 11:37:54 PM
Would still win reelection if held tomorrow
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: SdK on July 20, 2016, 11:06:11 AM
I don't know anyone that supports Sam.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Asteriskhead on July 20, 2016, 04:18:40 PM
I don't know anyone that supports Sam.

No one supports Sam, but it is very important to uphold your duty to the republican party. At least, that's the way I understand it.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on July 25, 2016, 07:20:44 PM
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Healthcare company announces plans to leave Kansas, eviscerates Gov. Sam Brownback in open letter

http://pathfinderhi.com/kansas-isnt-home-anymore/

Jeff Blackwood, the CEO of Pathfinder Health innovations, released a public letter stating the company's intentions to move their corporate office from Kansas to Missouri because of the governor's "destructive policies."

FWIW I've never heard of this company.

Suck it Blackwood, Sam just poached 180 jobs from Missouri

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The Edgerton site was selected based on a number of factors, according to Rick Rosenjack, executive vice president of Triumph’s Precision Components business unit. “The LPKC development was chosen due to strong support from the state of Kansas

http://ir.triumphgroup.com/mobile.view?c=61870&v=203&d=1&id=2187837
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: mocat on July 26, 2016, 09:13:58 AM
stolen from Grandview eh? sounds like something Ron Prince would do
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: steve dave on July 26, 2016, 10:03:30 AM
I very much enjoy watching these shitty business owners throwing up deuces to their shitty governors in their shitty states and going to the neighboring shitty governor/state.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: CNS on July 26, 2016, 10:09:35 AM
I very much enjoy watching these shitty business owners throwing up deuces to their shitty governors in their shitty states and going to the neighboring shitty governor/state.

The property management groups along State Line are really the only ppl that benefit from this.  The businesses jump, then jump back, and sometimes jump back again.  Rental groups and propt mngt guys have to be busy as hell along the State Line corridor. 
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on July 26, 2016, 12:50:43 PM
Shitty business owners, huh? That's a lot of butthurt seep from libtard dave.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: steve dave on July 26, 2016, 01:01:15 PM
I very much enjoy watching these shitty business owners throwing up deuces to their shitty governors in their shitty states and going to the neighboring shitty governor/state.

The property management groups along State Line are really the only ppl that benefit from this.  The businesses jump, then jump back, and sometimes jump back again.  Rental groups and propt mngt guys have to be busy as hell along the State Line corridor.

moving companies and facebook meme makers
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: DQ12 on July 26, 2016, 02:16:41 PM
come now.  we are strong for Sam. 
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: CNS on July 26, 2016, 04:49:54 PM
According to ABC news S &P just downgraded KS's credit rating to AA-. 

'Grats, Sam!

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Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: CNS on July 26, 2016, 04:50:40 PM
Evidently only three states have a worse rating.

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Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Tobias on July 26, 2016, 05:20:15 PM
oh man you should @ them
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: star seed 7 on July 26, 2016, 05:25:03 PM
I'm going to guess OK, LA, and..... AL
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Tobias on July 26, 2016, 05:28:32 PM
MS, NM?
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Emo EMAW on July 26, 2016, 05:41:03 PM
Michigan
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on July 26, 2016, 05:42:44 PM
California has to be lower or at least as bad.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: star seed 7 on July 26, 2016, 05:57:55 PM
No guess so far is correct  :surprised:
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Tobias on July 26, 2016, 05:59:00 PM
post the article, kat kid
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: wetwillie on July 26, 2016, 06:07:55 PM
gotta be kentucky
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: CNS on July 26, 2016, 06:48:58 PM
Illinois,  new jersey, kentucky. 

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Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: sys on July 26, 2016, 07:52:20 PM
Illinois,  new jersey, kentucky. 

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your source is wrong and john doug is right.  california is worse.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: CNS on July 26, 2016, 08:00:38 PM
What's their rating

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Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: star seed 7 on July 26, 2016, 08:01:13 PM
Illinois,  new jersey, kentucky. 

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your source is wrong and john doug is right.  california is worse.

it's the same from what i saw.  got upgraded in 2014
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: sys on July 26, 2016, 08:02:52 PM
What's their rating

http://www.treasurer.ca.gov/ratings/current.asp
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on July 26, 2016, 08:04:01 PM
Does anyone else find it troubling that the s&p has 47 states rated AA or higher?
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on July 26, 2016, 08:08:16 PM
Illinois bonds are rated junk :ROFL:
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: star seed 7 on July 26, 2016, 08:11:43 PM
What's their rating

http://www.treasurer.ca.gov/ratings/current.asp

vindicated
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: sys on July 26, 2016, 08:13:43 PM
s&p apologist outed.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: sonofdaxjones on July 26, 2016, 10:34:41 PM
Man, NC AAA rating, $200 million plus operating surplus, over a billion dollar "rainy day fund", the most ever.    Huge turnaround from the billions in the hole days of (D) leadership.

Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Cire on July 26, 2016, 10:47:52 PM
Sam would have that crap cut out yesterday.


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Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: sonofdaxjones on July 26, 2016, 10:49:58 PM
Sam would have that crap cut out yesterday.


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Sam apparently didn't get the message that Kansas isn't a Sun Belt state.

Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: CNS on July 27, 2016, 04:09:36 PM
Way to go KS!

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More than 800 adults and children will lose mental health services with Wyandot Inc. because of budget cuts announced Wednesday.

Losses in revenue combined with Gov. Sam Brownback’s decision earlier this year to cut Medicaid reimbursement by 4 percent compelled the move, said Wyandot’s president and CEO, Randy Callstrom.

“We’ve done what we can to preserve treatment,” Callstrom said, “but there have been too many cuts to provide (the same level of) services.”

Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/news/local/article92148857.html#storylink=cpy
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Emo EMAW on July 27, 2016, 04:38:52 PM
Hopefully these people just move across town.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: CNS on July 27, 2016, 05:10:59 PM
Its like economic Eugenics.  Cut aid and wait until they leave the state.  Building a better KS, I guess.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on July 27, 2016, 07:36:31 PM
That's too good of an idea to be true
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Emo EMAW on July 28, 2016, 09:09:02 AM
Its like economic Eugenics.  Cut aid and wait until they leave the state.  Building a better KS, I guess.

I've seen the gene pool here.  It's not hopeful.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: renocat on July 28, 2016, 09:45:53 AM
Where will.the Brownback library be built.  What will it look like?
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: CNS on July 28, 2016, 01:37:58 PM
Where will.the Brownback library be built.  What will it look like?

Not enough funds.  Sorry, sam.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: mocat on October 18, 2016, 11:00:12 AM
What a perfect day that would be

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Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Emo EMAW on October 18, 2016, 11:06:02 AM
Canco.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: CNS on October 18, 2016, 11:08:01 AM
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Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Emo EMAW on October 18, 2016, 11:22:25 AM
What will it take to convince you? 
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: mocat on October 18, 2016, 03:39:56 PM
Well we know he's not serious about the perfect night, unless he enjoys getting booed by an entire stadium of Kansans while with his confused wife
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: bucket on October 25, 2016, 12:00:10 PM
https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2016-10-24/kansas-ends-bad-economic-news-by-not-reporting-it?cmpid%3D=socialflow-twitter-view&utm_campaign=socialflow-organic&utm_content=view&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter

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Brownback, despite promising to measure the results of a “real life experiment” in cutting taxes, has decided to cancel a quarterly report on the status of the state’s economy.

 :cry:
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Dugout DickStone on October 25, 2016, 12:04:19 PM
he is the best at being the worst
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: steve dave on October 25, 2016, 12:36:05 PM
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Kansas’ gross state product fell behind the six-state region and the nation for the third straight year. (Kansas’ gross state product grew at a faster rate when compared to the region and the nation in three of the five years before Brownback took office in 2011).

Private industry wages in Kansas grew at a slower pace last year than they did in the region and the U.S. -- as they did during the past five years.

The number of private business establishments in Kansas trailed both the region and the nation for the last year, again continuing a five-year trend.

..............

Brownback is now said to be considering tax hikes. He has paid the deserved price for his errors, with a 26 percent approval rating, the lowest of any governor in the U.S. The people of Kansas have paid a bigger price. Undoing the harm will take a new governor and, though it may seem far-fetched, I think he should step down and make way for fresh leadership.

Absent that, all we can do is to call out misguided economic beliefs wherever they appear.

 :sdeek:
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: star seed 7 on October 25, 2016, 12:43:17 PM
Obama  :curse:
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Emo EMAW on October 25, 2016, 12:57:05 PM
Russia!  :curse:
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Dugout DickStone on October 25, 2016, 01:02:21 PM
he will raise taxes on people making between 100 and 300.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Canary on October 25, 2016, 01:09:40 PM
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Kansas’ gross state product fell behind the six-state region and the nation for the third straight year. (Kansas’ gross state product grew at a faster rate when compared to the region and the nation in three of the five years before Brownback took office in 2011).

Private industry wages in Kansas grew at a slower pace last year than they did in the region and the U.S. -- as they did during the past five years.

The number of private business establishments in Kansas trailed both the region and the nation for the last year, again continuing a five-year trend.

..............

Brownback is now said to be considering tax hikes. He has paid the deserved price for his errors, with a 26 percent approval rating, the lowest of any governor in the U.S. The people of Kansas have paid a bigger price. Undoing the harm will take a new governor and, though it may seem far-fetched, I think he should step down and make way for fresh leadership.

Absent that, all we can do is to call out misguided economic beliefs wherever they appear.

 :sdeek:
I think the problems that have been created during his tenure will take more than one successor to get straightened out.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: CNS on October 25, 2016, 01:13:51 PM
Guys, it's fine.  If we get a super large amount of water this winter and gas goes back up to like $140/barrel, we will be fine. 

Also, by "we", I mean like 300 of the state's citizens.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Emo EMAW on October 25, 2016, 01:28:52 PM
I was wondering about oil.

So, over the last fourish years, KS has produced ~45MM barrels of oil annually.  Had the oil been worth another $20/bbl on average that's an additional $900MM in "sales."  Any idea what that would translate into in terms of state tax revenue?  Even if it meant another 10%/$90MM in revenue annually, that's only like $45 per citizen (assuming 2MM citizens in KS).  Seems piddly.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: CNS on October 25, 2016, 01:31:33 PM
No one is worried about citizens, emo. 
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: steve dave on October 25, 2016, 01:53:56 PM
I was wondering about oil.

So, over the last fourish years, KS has produced ~45MM barrels of oil annually.  Had the oil been worth another $20/bbl on average that's an additional $900MM in "sales."  Any idea what that would translate into in terms of state tax revenue?  Even if it meant another 10%/$90MM in revenue annually, that's only like $45 per citizen (assuming 2MM citizens in KS).  Seems piddly.

well good news for kansas and nigeria but I have a feeling oil is going to boom again soon!
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on October 25, 2016, 02:14:10 PM
When the overwhelming majority of your state's economy is based upon agriculture, oil and private aircraft, and all three industries go into the shitter, your going to have a tough time making up that economic output.

The "tax experiment" has had no measurable impact upon the state other than enraging $40k p/yr hayseeds who don't realize they're paying $800 per year less in income taxes, and wasting newspaper print on the de minimis monthly budget deficits (but not de minimis surpluses).
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: sys on October 25, 2016, 02:17:53 PM
well good news for kansas and nigeria but I have a feeling oil is going to boom again soon!

there has been sustained underinvestment, but there is also about nine gillion (new number i just invented) barrels in storage and the north american land drillers can bring capacity online so fast.  seems more like a setup for slow appreciation than another out of control boom.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: EMAWican on October 25, 2016, 02:32:56 PM
IIRC in 2015 the State took in around $30 million less than 2014 in mineral tax (oil and gas), which isn't that bad of a drop and is back in line with 2012 and 2013 levels. I also remember that sales and use tax revenue actually went up in 2015.  The only reason Kansas is in the hole is because of the dismal income tax revenue thanks to Brownback's tax cuts.

Now on the county/local level the drop in O&G valuation for property tax purposes has hit them bigly.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Panjandrum on October 25, 2016, 02:50:02 PM
IIRC in 2015 the State took in around $30 million less than 2014 in mineral tax (oil and gas), which isn't that bad of a drop and is back in line with 2012 and 2013 levels. I also remember that sales and use tax revenue actually went up in 2015.  The only reason Kansas is in the hole is because of the dismal income tax revenue thanks to Brownback's tax cuts.

Now on the county/local level the drop in O&G valuation for property tax purposes has hit them bigly.

I pay less in taxes in Missouri (work there, live in Kansas) than do in Kansas after they took away some of the deductions, even though the rate is a percentage higher in Missouri.

My property taxes have skyrocketed.  Food is a lot more expensive, etc.

Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on October 25, 2016, 02:56:56 PM
Hayseeds making their presence felt itt.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Panjandrum on October 25, 2016, 03:02:14 PM
Hayseeds making their presence felt itt.

No, not a hayseed.  I actually got a break the year before because once you cross a certain threshold over six figures, your rate went down and you got a flat refund of like $600 or something like that.

I had to do to the math because I couldn't get everything to add up right when I did my taxes until I dug into the tax tables for Missouri and Kansas.  When I owed a lot more in Kansas in 2015, I compared returns to figure out what was different.  In 2014, I was able to deduct much, much more, but in 2015, it was much less.

Missouri's tax rate is higher, but I'm able to deduct a lot more there.  So, each year, I will owe Kansas.  Which is really upsetting because they charge me for not having enough withholding, but I can't withhold anything because I don't earn income in Kansas.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: IPA4Me on October 25, 2016, 04:03:52 PM
You need to pay estimated taxes.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on October 25, 2016, 04:13:08 PM
This hayseed is paying full income taxes in two states.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: star seed 7 on October 25, 2016, 05:22:02 PM
Trump supporters like fsd don't read gud  :frown:
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Panjandrum on October 25, 2016, 09:15:23 PM
This hayseed is paying full income taxes in two states.

You get a credit for taxes paid. 2014, I owed nothing because my liability in Missouri was higher. In 2015, I owed because my liability was higher in Kansas, and I had to pay the difference.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on October 25, 2016, 09:34:06 PM
Explains why the nice parts of the kc metro are all in missouri...
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on October 26, 2016, 09:20:30 AM
Welcome Home American Royal!!!!
#thankssam

http://www.kansascity.com/news/business/article110338297.html

 :Woohoo:

Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: ChiComCat on October 26, 2016, 09:50:29 AM
Can't wait to see what the new jobs report has to say now that we've added 14
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Tobias on October 26, 2016, 05:39:30 PM
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Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: wetwillie on October 26, 2016, 05:55:49 PM
i guess Stegall is just supposed to take one for the team when everyone votes to not retain the judges
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on October 26, 2016, 09:33:56 PM
Brownback could re-appoint him.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Institutional Control on November 21, 2016, 01:52:21 PM
http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-kansas-hard-times-snap-20161121-story.html
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on November 21, 2016, 09:30:28 PM
The la times loves to rail on the kansas fiscal sitch, at a time when calpers is underfunded by more money than kansas government has spent, in its history combined.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: star seed 7 on November 21, 2016, 09:32:51 PM
media  :curse:
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on November 21, 2016, 09:39:31 PM
Call me when the GC telegram is writing crap about the cali government crap show. Their us senator election ballot listed 2 candidates, both dems.  :ROFL:
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: CNS on November 21, 2016, 09:45:47 PM
Oh man!  Cal is so mumped!  Completely aleviates the KS finance issue!

KS cedit rating downgraded again?  Doesn't matter, Cal's public employee retirement is totally underfunded!
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on November 21, 2016, 09:50:21 PM
Higher credit rating than cali and balanced budget, tard store. It's okay to identify hypocrisy or an obvious agenda.

Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on January 04, 2017, 08:22:55 AM
I wonder if the LA Times will run a retraction piece???

Quote
Kansas exceeds revenue estimates in December

Kansas exceeded revenue estimates by $6.2 million, or about 1 percent, for December.

This is the second month in a row in which Kansas has beat revenue estimates.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on January 04, 2017, 08:37:35 AM
Where did that put us for the year?
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: gatoveintisiete on January 04, 2017, 09:01:19 AM
I want to ask known stud FSD, is ge right about Brownback or will he clownsuit them in the end?  All I really have to go on is that ge usually wrong about policy  :dunno:
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: star seed 7 on January 04, 2017, 09:22:56 AM
It's all the media's fault
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: CNS on January 04, 2017, 09:24:33 AM
Clownsuit would require more than a balanced budget, bud.  That alone as a metric is sad.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on January 04, 2017, 12:25:36 PM
I want to ask known stud FSD, is ge right about Brownback or will he clownsuit them in the end?  All I really have to go on is that ge usually wrong about policy  :dunno:

ge rarely knows what it is upset about, let alone why it is upset about something.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: mocat on January 11, 2017, 04:36:14 PM
update: :lol:
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: ChiComCat on January 11, 2017, 04:42:00 PM
At the rate of the last two months, we will make up October 2016's shortfall in a year.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: mhkpasa on March 08, 2017, 05:55:58 PM
Brownback is a goner?

http://kcur.org/post/source-kansas-gov-brownback-be-named-ambassador-un-agencies-food-and-agriculture#stream/0
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on March 08, 2017, 08:02:05 PM
Brownback is a goner?

http://kcur.org/post/source-kansas-gov-brownback-be-named-ambassador-un-agencies-food-and-agriculture#stream/0

I'm sure senate democrats will obstruct this, so he'll be around for awhile
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: star seed 7 on March 08, 2017, 08:06:47 PM
They should. there's no need for him wreck crap on a global scale, he's filled his quota with just kansas
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on March 08, 2017, 08:09:58 PM
Kansas is totally wrecked guys
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on March 08, 2017, 08:10:31 PM
Ambassador to the UN for food and agriculture is a completely pointless position anyway.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on March 08, 2017, 08:12:19 PM
Ambassador to the UN for food and agriculture is a completely pointless position anyway.

The world will be starving to death by the time brownback is done ruining it
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: AbeFroman on March 08, 2017, 09:55:17 PM
Kansas is totally wrecked guys

It really is and a lot of Republicans will agree with you
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on March 08, 2017, 10:12:59 PM
Kansas is totally wrecked guys

It really is and a lot of Republicans will agree with you

Smashed to pieces
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: SdK on March 09, 2017, 09:33:55 AM
You jokers make me smile.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: star seed 7 on April 17, 2017, 11:21:00 AM
St Francis Hospital in Topeka is expected to announce it's closing tomorrow. 1600 employees
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on April 17, 2017, 11:22:53 AM
St Francis Hospital in Topeka is expected to announce it's closing tomorrow. 1600 employees

Probably Obama's fault.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Panjandrum on April 17, 2017, 11:29:46 AM
St Francis Hospital in Topeka is expected to announce it's closing tomorrow. 1600 employees

Probably Obama's fault.

I found out yesterday that my wife's cousin is losing his job.  It was pretty upsetting.  He's a good dude.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: AbeFroman on April 17, 2017, 11:43:10 AM
All 1600 employees should march on the Governor's mansion.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: meow meow on April 17, 2017, 04:42:23 PM
so Topeka will have only 1 hospital in the entire city?
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: SdK on April 17, 2017, 04:48:27 PM
Canary informed me there used go be 5 here in Topeka. Yowza
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: mocat on April 17, 2017, 04:49:23 PM
so Topeka will have only 1 hospital in the entire city?

:cheese:

http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=25275.0 (http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=25275.0)
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on April 17, 2017, 04:54:44 PM
http://www.hutchpost.com/2017/04/17/brownback-topeka-mayor-take-action-regarding-st-francis-hospital/

This seems like a losing strategy.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on April 17, 2017, 08:07:19 PM
I got a flat today driving down Shawnee Mission Pkwy.

Thanks, Sam.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Emo EMAW on May 03, 2017, 09:36:44 PM
Well, we can expect revenues to be sharply down this year as the western KS wheat crop was devastated by the recent weather. 
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: SdK on May 03, 2017, 10:04:09 PM
Well we should still thank them for their time. Even though their 40 hour week won't be sending anything down the line.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: hemmy on May 03, 2017, 10:13:24 PM
not a brownback fan, but what does he have to do with that hospital
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: bucket on May 03, 2017, 10:24:57 PM
On a bright note, they're making progress on a tax plan that will probably get shot down tomorrow.  :dunno:
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: bucket on May 03, 2017, 10:26:31 PM
not a brownback fan, but what does he have to do with that hospital

Not embracing medicaid expansion had a lot to do with the closure of other hospitals in the state. Not sure if this is related. Probably, though.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Emo EMAW on May 03, 2017, 10:57:38 PM
The better question is what did Brownback voters do to deserve to be struck by the hand of God?
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: SdK on May 03, 2017, 11:05:18 PM
It was an Alabama referencs
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: bucket on May 04, 2017, 12:16:51 AM
The better question is what did Brownback voters do to deserve to be struck by the hand of God?

Great question since I thought all Brownback supporters considered this when voting.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Emo EMAW on May 07, 2017, 11:14:13 PM
Now oil is headed into the shitter.  Brownback fucks us again.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: slackcat on May 09, 2017, 05:56:06 AM
What does Brownback have to do with the price of oil?  :confused:
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: bucket on June 06, 2017, 08:25:28 PM
Last night Brownback announced he would veto the tax plan passed by the legislature minutes after it was voted on. The senate just passed a veto override. Now it's up to the house.  :crossfingers:
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: SdK on June 06, 2017, 08:27:08 PM
Kick Brownback in the teeth legislature!
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on June 06, 2017, 09:05:57 PM
I like how all the liberal sponges are cheering for a tax increase that's gonna cost me over $2k a year. Truthfully, I don't like it all. eff off, moochers.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: bucket on June 06, 2017, 09:08:19 PM
I like how all the liberal sponges are cheering for a tax increase that's gonna cost me over $2k a year. Truthfully, I don't like it all. eff off, moochers.

But it's bleeding dry our great institution!
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: star seed 7 on June 06, 2017, 09:09:39 PM
 :don'tcare:
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Tobias on June 06, 2017, 09:17:57 PM
should i do 1k on booze and 1k on drugs or what do you guys think the ratio should be
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: AbeFroman on June 06, 2017, 09:19:44 PM
I like how all the liberal sponges are cheering for a tax increase that's gonna cost me over $2k a year. Truthfully, I don't like it all. eff off, moochers.

The problem is you're confusing "raising taxes" with "restoring tax cuts". But you only care about yourself, so I can see why you have a hard time processing that.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: SdK on June 06, 2017, 09:23:29 PM
I like how all the liberal sponges are cheering for a tax increase that's gonna cost me over $2k a year. Truthfully, I don't like it all. eff off, moochers.
FSD troll post.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: star seed 7 on June 06, 2017, 09:33:56 PM
should i do 1k on booze and 1k on drugs or what do you guys think the ratio should be

how many abortions can you pay for with $2k?
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: SdK on June 06, 2017, 09:45:16 PM
Roughly 5, last I checked.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: bucket on June 06, 2017, 09:50:14 PM
Override veto goes through the house. Sorry, KSUW. Congrats K-State.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: wetwillie on June 06, 2017, 09:54:18 PM
Can't wait to get my hands on some of that sweet sweet tax money
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Cire on June 06, 2017, 10:04:31 PM
Eat a dick Sam


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Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Dugout DickStone on June 07, 2017, 01:24:07 AM
I like how all the liberal sponges are cheering for a tax increase that's gonna cost me over $2k a year. Truthfully, I don't like it all. eff off, moochers.

You must have the worst accountant in America
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: slackcat on June 07, 2017, 06:09:55 AM
Costa Rica here I come.  :driving:
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Cire on June 07, 2017, 07:28:36 AM
KSW should just go buy an island somewhere, homeschool, no government etc


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Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: renocat on June 07, 2017, 07:35:56 AM
We had a subborn cow once that clogged up the alleyways when working cows.  Her name, baloney.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Canary on June 07, 2017, 09:00:08 AM
This is the first time in a very long time that I can remember both sides of the aisle banding together. I don't like higher taxes, but I like that there appears to be some movement away from Brownback's position.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: cfbandyman on June 07, 2017, 09:12:41 AM
I like how all the liberal sponges are cheering for a tax increase that's gonna cost me over $2k a year. Truthfully, I don't like it all. eff off, moochers.

You must have the worst accountant in America

That, or from his post in the Scot Pruitt thread he keeps his house's AC set to 70, that has to cost like $400/month easy in the summer.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Woogy on June 07, 2017, 09:28:43 AM
Now watch them not update the withholding tables and collect fines from everyone for under withholding.....
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: cfbandyman on June 07, 2017, 09:33:07 AM
This is the first time in a very long time that I can remember both sides of the aisle banding together. I don't like higher taxes, but I like that there appears to be some movement away from Brownback's position.

That's in general how I feel, I don't think anyone loves taxes, but bills gotta be paid, and it's been patently and unarguably shown time and again that his method DOES NOT WORK. It's nice to give a giant middle finger to brownie.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Gooch on June 07, 2017, 09:42:48 AM
Nobody likes higher taxes but our schools are imploding and roads and bridges are crumbling. His crap plan was proven to not work and change needs to be made.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: star seed 7 on June 07, 2017, 09:46:31 AM
Those schools and bridges need to show a little personal responsibility and pull themselves up by their boot straps instead of mooching off ksuw
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: mocat on June 07, 2017, 10:29:33 AM
KSW should just go buy an island somewhere, homeschool, no government etc

ksuw's kids are probably already homeschooled
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: bucket on June 07, 2017, 01:19:27 PM
https://twitter.com/SenSanders/status/872459707344183301
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: 8manpick on June 07, 2017, 04:13:57 PM
I like how all the liberal sponges are cheering for a tax increase that's gonna cost me over $2k a year. Truthfully, I don't like it all. eff off, moochers.

You must have the worst accountant in America

That, or from his post in the Scot Pruitt thread he keeps his house's AC set to 70, that has to cost like $400/month easy in the summer.

Are there people that keep it set higher than that?  Yuck  :buh-bye:
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: cfbandyman on June 07, 2017, 05:54:36 PM
I like how all the liberal sponges are cheering for a tax increase that's gonna cost me over $2k a year. Truthfully, I don't like it all. eff off, moochers.

You must have the worst accountant in America

That, or from his post in the Scot Pruitt thread he keeps his house's AC set to 70, that has to cost like $400/month easy in the summer.

Are there people that keep it set higher than that?  Yuck  :buh-bye:

People who aren't fat and smelly don't need to live in an icebox
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: star seed 7 on June 07, 2017, 06:47:33 PM
68'r  :gocho:
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Tobias on June 07, 2017, 07:14:05 PM
I'm a confirmed fat and smelly icebox'r
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Dugout DickStone on June 07, 2017, 08:10:45 PM
KSW should just go buy an island somewhere, homeschool, no government etc

ksuw's kids are probably already homeschooled

Gotta make enough for your wife to stay home to do that.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: IPA4Me on June 20, 2017, 02:16:22 PM
For you Brownback fans...

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/opinion/editorial-cartoons/article157117789.html (http://www.mcclatchydc.com/opinion/editorial-cartoons/article157117789.html)




(http://pics.mcclatchyinteractive.com/opinion/editorial-cartoons/bxh3kj/picture157117784/ALTERNATES/FREE_960/judge0620)
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on June 23, 2017, 03:29:17 PM
Great job, Sam

http://www.bizjournals.com/wichita/news/2017/06/23/study-says-kansas-15th-best-state-for-jobs.html?ana=e_ae_set1&s=article_du&ed=2017-06-23&u=11045160944f58d24b7e6e962a206e&t=1498249684&j=78437391
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Gooch on June 23, 2017, 03:35:33 PM
:lol: not even the most partisan hack could say with a straight face the Brownback has done even remotely a "god job".
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: steve dave on June 23, 2017, 03:44:42 PM
:lol: not even the most partisan hack could say with a straight face the Brownback has done even remotely a "god job".

I think you're underestimating our partisan hacks
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Tobias on June 23, 2017, 05:44:40 PM
So true
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: treysolid on June 23, 2017, 06:13:09 PM
Great job, Sam

http://www.bizjournals.com/wichita/news/2017/06/23/study-says-kansas-15th-best-state-for-jobs.html?ana=e_ae_set1&s=article_du&ed=2017-06-23&u=11045160944f58d24b7e6e962a206e&t=1498249684&j=78437391

congratulations KS for being super cheap to live in and super sparsely populated!
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Dugout DickStone on June 23, 2017, 06:15:54 PM
Lol at black lung aggie
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: cfbandyman on June 23, 2017, 06:18:38 PM
Wallethub is quite the reputable source.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: cfbandyman on June 23, 2017, 06:21:20 PM
Lol at black lung aggie

The bottom 6 all have something in common and I can't figure out what it is  :confused:

44   Alaska   
45   Oklahoma   
46   Mississippi   
47   Alabama   
48   Kentucky   
49   Louisiana   
50   West Virginia
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: SdK on June 23, 2017, 06:25:40 PM
I can't either.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Dugout DickStone on June 23, 2017, 06:49:24 PM
Stinky?
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: cfbandyman on June 23, 2017, 06:50:21 PM
Stinky?

Red-y
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on June 24, 2017, 08:44:54 AM
Why do you guys hate Kansas so much? It's great
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Dugout DickStone on June 24, 2017, 08:52:12 AM
Have you ever been to Topeka?  My god
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on June 24, 2017, 09:08:40 AM
Lol at black lung aggie

The bottom 6 all have something in common and I can't figure out what it is  :confused:

44   Alaska   
45   Oklahoma   
46   Mississippi   
47   Alabama   
48   Kentucky   
49   Louisiana   
50   West Virginia

Tacit racism from the left, unsurprising...sad
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on June 24, 2017, 09:14:02 AM
Have you ever been to Topeka?  My god

It's basically Lawrence. Logically, every state has a worst part.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Dugout DickStone on June 24, 2017, 09:19:34 AM
Have you ever been to Topeka?  My god

It's basically Lawrence. Logically, every state has a worst part.

That's just what people who got stuck in Topeka say to feel better.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: bones129 on July 26, 2017, 07:16:59 PM
Finally gone.

http://www.kansascity.com/news/politics-government/article163841223.html
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: star seed 7 on July 26, 2017, 07:18:13 PM
a plastic surgeon is now gov?   :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: sys on July 26, 2017, 07:26:50 PM
who resigns from a governorship to become a fake ambassador?  what a weirdo.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: cfbandyman on July 26, 2017, 07:32:05 PM
who resigns from a governorship to become a fake ambassador?  what a weirdo.

Someone who is the 2nd least approved governor in the US and wasn't going to be able to run in 2018. Smart move honestly to go from a despised governor to going to a position with no real power, responsibility, or press coverage. He can basically do nothing in obscurity now.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: bones129 on July 26, 2017, 07:33:13 PM
who resigns from a governorship to become a fake ambassador?  what a weirdo.

Someone who is the 2nd least approved governor in the US and wasn't going to be able to run in 2018. Smart move honestly to go from a despised governor to going to a position with no real power, responsibility, or press coverage. He can basically do nothing in obscurity now.

Perfect job for Sam.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: puniraptor on July 26, 2017, 09:11:08 PM
ambassador-at-large for international religious freedom

lolololololololololololololololololololololololololololololololol

perfect
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: wetwillie on July 26, 2017, 09:19:17 PM
He's gone puni, time to come home
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: slackcat on July 27, 2017, 07:11:54 AM
who resigns from a governorship to become a fake ambassador?  what a weirdo.

Someone who is the 2nd least approved governor in the US and wasn't going to be able to run in 2018. Smart move honestly to go from a despised governor to going to a position with no real power, responsibility, or press coverage. He can basically do nothing in obscurity now.


This really matters to you, what someone in Alaska thinks of Sammie?
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Canary on July 27, 2017, 07:17:14 AM
Have you ever been to Topeka?  My god
I've lived in Topeka for sixteen years.  While it's not the best spot in the world it has treated me well.  I don't see what everyone hates about it.  It's more about what I can bring to the table. 
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Kat Kid on July 27, 2017, 07:35:45 AM
I mean if I am looking at Topeka vs Rome, I know what I'm doing.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: renocat on July 27, 2017, 05:10:30 PM
I am sad losing my governor to be the Ambassador to God.  What a good thing to spend taxes on.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: renocat on January 24, 2018, 10:18:00 PM
Sammit!  Trump took another Kansas for his shi*hole.  Brownie was the best over we ever had since the last one.  Ambassador to Gawd.  I hope God ain't a teacher.  I hope Trump makes Kobach Mexican huntin czar.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: SkinnyBenny on January 24, 2018, 10:30:11 PM
weird bump
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: renocat on January 24, 2018, 10:53:05 PM
weird bump
http://www.kansascity.com/opinion/editorials/article196503389.html
Sam nearly was not voted in today as an ambassador. Pence broke the tie.  We dang near had to keep him.  Hope Colyer does well as new governor.   I would vote for him.  I wouldn't whiz down Kobach throat if his tongue was on fire, I would vote for Obama before him.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Institutional Control on January 30, 2018, 06:46:37 AM
I hope all of you living in Kansas are fasting today in observance of Brownback's last day.

Brownback asks Kansas to fast and pray on his last day in office (http://www.kansascity.com/latest-news/article197232269.html)
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on January 30, 2018, 09:59:17 AM
I hope all of you living in Kansas are fasting today in observance of Brownback's last day.

Brownback asks Kansas to fast and pray on his last day in office (http://www.kansascity.com/latest-news/article197232269.html)

https://www.facebook.com/events/1999786996926071/?active_tab=discussion
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: star seed 7 on January 30, 2018, 11:17:56 AM
Should include homosexual activity as well
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on January 30, 2018, 12:35:48 PM
Should include homosexual activity as well

Well it was in direct response to the request for fasting - eating & drinking are the exact opposite of fasting. Do you think homo sex is the exact opposite of praying?
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: star seed 7 on January 30, 2018, 12:56:41 PM
It's a celebration, bitches
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: DQ12 on January 30, 2018, 01:00:31 PM
I'm fasting the rest of the day in honor of Governor Brownback.
Title: Re: Sam Brownback
Post by: Kat Kid on December 14, 2019, 10:17:52 AM
Sam! Help these persecuted Christians!

https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/1205272658931339270