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TITLETOWN - A Decade Long Celebration Of The Greatest Achievement In College Athletics History => Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball => Topic started by: steve dave on December 15, 2014, 11:56:19 AM
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I'm not specifically talking about this very moment when we just happen to suck complete ass at basketball but at any moment in the future when we still suck complete ass at basketball. It seems like our fans no longer care about hoops even a little bit. Is oscar going to be our coach in like 5 years after making us losers for that entire time? Feels like he may be. Which would be terrible if anyone cared anymore. I kind of care that nobody cares but don't really care that we are bad. Does that make sense?
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I forgot that they play in KC this weekend and i'm not even a little excited at all. :frown:
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nope!
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Not until we lose to KU in football.
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I care.
If he doesn't make the tournament this year or next year, I'm sure we'll fire him as opposed to extending him.
That was Wooly's trap. Every year we had to decide to extend him or fire him, and we'd always extend. I'm not sure Currie would do the same, especially if Underwood would be interested in coming back.
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If we don't make the NCAA this year, I want him fired. His kids, his scheme, his fault.
However, I don't think any majority will care unless we miss the NCAA and don't get an NIT invite. Even then, tucks will want to give him one more shot and Juniors Wes, Marcus, and DJamer will win his job back.
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how many people cared enough to go the game on a nice Sunday evening yesterday? were there 3k there?
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eh, I'll give him another year regardless. :love:
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my thing is, i slowly start to give more shits after the bowl game and as the 66 season progresses, and i'm at a fever pitch come the 2nd week of march. so, even if he makes the tourney every year, but continues these dogshit 1st round performances, he's got to go. we shouldn't settle for 1st round exits every year.
in saying that, i don't give a eff about bruceketball right now.
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IMO, the atmosphere of college and K-State basketball is completely different now compared to Wooly. Wooly should have never been given the amount of time he got, but the money wasn't nearly as big then. The bottom line will speak for itself now and if the program stinks and fans don't but tickets and show up for games then oscar will fire himself.
At this point I still care about K-State basketball and will follow at the highest level I can. That said, I haven't been to a game yet and live within 30 minutes of the OOD.
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He already has a lot of our fanbase into the "we need all of the pieces to align just right to make the tournament" mindset. While we probably shouldn't take making the NCAA's for granted, we sure as hell better not starting treating it as some magical occurrence that can only happen once every four or five years when the "right combination" of players comes together.
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Didn't Wooly hit 9 wins in non con the last couple yrs?
There should be a formula. He gets the same time as wooly - one yr per each trip we have taken to the tourney since wooly. He owes us right now.
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I'm going to wait until after Saturday's game before i go full tilt #BID. Last year, we looked like crap for first part of the season, then beat Gonzaga. The year before that we looked like crap for the first part of the season, then beat Florida. This game against A&M is at the same point in the season as Gonzaga and Florida.
Maybe it's some weird oscar thing that we can't get our crap together until late December. I know the prior year's results have nothing to do with this season, but I have to hold onto something.
I think we should also explore changing the name of the board again. Maybe bring back "put a track around the court......". Or, maybe something to do with the "Hilo blues". For example: "K-State baseketball, a pandemic of the Hilo blues".
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the dramatic difference in play after first semester classes are done and there is "unlimited" practice time makes some sense for a first year coach in 12-13 and team playing a ton of underclassmen in 13-14 but I am disappointed if it is a factor for this squad with Foster, Wes, Nigel, Gip, Nino and even Jevon all with a ton of time in the system last season.
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If memory serves. $1.8 million this year, $100K increase every year, contract runs through 2018, $500K bonus if he makes through 2017.
$2.5 million dollar or sum of the remaining term of the contract whichever is LESS.
Figure out when the "less" kicks in, you may have a guide.
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In all honesty, Frank's teams were pretty similar in the OOC (save 09-10), they just never played in a tournament the same level as Maui.
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how many people cared enough to go the game on a nice Sunday evening yesterday? were there 3k there?
Exactly. No one at the games, and the people there don't seem to care.
I heard louder cheers for the cowboy dancers at half time a few games back than I have for the team all season.
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In all honesty, Frank's teams were pretty similar in the OOC (save 09-10), they just never played in a tournament the same level as Maui.
Also people were rough ridin' pissed about it. Someone pull up the archives after the Ole Miss game in PR.
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now nobody is pissed :frown:
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now nobody is pissed :frown:
yeah, because frank taught them it would all be OK. Also because they like oscar's style more and are willing to give him a free pass they wouldn't give Frank.
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now nobody is pissed :frown:
yeah, because frank taught them it would all be OK. Also because they like oscar's style more and are willing to give him a free pass they wouldn't give Frank.
Def corresponds to how Frank acted and how unwhite/midwestern he was, imo.
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In all honesty, Frank's teams were pretty similar in the OOC (save 09-10), they just never played in a tournament the same level as Maui.
Also people were rough ridin' pissed about it. Someone pull up the archives after the Ole Miss game in PR.
http://goEMAW.com/archives/index.php?topic=47265.0
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now nobody is pissed :frown:
yeah, because frank taught them it would all be OK. Also because they like oscar's style more and are willing to give him a free pass they wouldn't give Frank.
I think it has more to do with Frank's teams playing hard and being fun to watch. I didn't even know the Savannah State game was yesterday until my wife asked me what channel it was on. Then I went back to reading a book with the game on in the background. Looked like we won, so I was sort of pleased about that I guess. If I had payed closer attention, I would have probably come away upset about something.
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In all honesty, Frank's teams were pretty similar in the OOC (save 09-10), they just never played in a tournament the same level as Maui.
Also people were rough ridin' pissed about it. Someone pull up the archives after the Ole Miss game in PR.
http://goEMAW.com/archives/index.php?topic=47265.0
that was after a win, but thanks! :love:
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If memory serves. $1.8 million this year, $100K increase every year, contract runs through 2018, $500K bonus if he makes through 2017.
$2.5 million dollar or sum of the remaining term of the contract whichever is LESS.
Figure out when the "less" kicks in, you may have a guide.
That made me sadz.
Did we get any money when Frank left?
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I'm going to wait until after Saturday's game before i go full tilt #BID. Last year, we looked like crap for first part of the season, then beat Gonzaga. The year before that we looked like crap for the first part of the season, then beat Florida. This game against A&M is at the same point in the season as Gonzaga and Florida.
Maybe it's some weird oscar thing that we can't get our crap together until late December. I know the prior year's results have nothing to do with this season, but I have to hold onto something.
I think we should also explore changing the name of the board again. Maybe bring back "put a track around the court......". Or, maybe something to do with the "Hilo blues". For example: "K-State baseketball, a pandemic of the Hilo blues".
oscar is the worst in the conference at implementing his system, we are always going to suck in the noncon. oscar also did a rough ridin' awful job of scheduling this year. We really don't have a terrible losses yet. Just missed opportunities, really have put the Texas A&M game in the must win territory. Really think the season is more up in the air than perceived.
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oscar Weber ruined my winter.
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oscar Weber ruined my winter.
So far, this.
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If memory serves. $1.8 million this year, $100K increase every year, contract runs through 2018, $500K bonus if he makes through 2017.
$2.5 million dollar or sum of the remaining term of the contract whichever is LESS.
Figure out when the "less" kicks in, you may have a guide.
That made me sadz.
Did we get any money when Frank left?
Yes and I believe Frank made the last payment in FY 2014.
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For the most part, no one gaf about basketball but I think we have a few important donors who do actually care.
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In all honesty, Frank's teams were pretty similar in the OOC (save 09-10), they just never played in a tournament the same level as Maui.
Also people were rough ridin' pissed about it. Someone pull up the archives after the Ole Miss game in PR.
Yeah, Frank had a couple of #BID OOC stretches before #BID was cool. George Mason and Oregon in 08. Kentucky, Iowa, Oregon in 09.
And there is nothing like a nice FT% meltdown.
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If we go 3-15 in conference, I think a lot of people will care, and there would be a lot of grumblings. I can't imagine anyone standing for that. Even the tuckiest of tucks.
No one gave a crap about Savannah St. A Sunday evening game against a crappy team.....who cares. I don't think attendance would have been that much more if we were undefeated.
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yeah because attendance isn't a good measure of interest or lack thereof :rolleyes:
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Even during Frank's years the attendance was shitty during xmas break and slightly there before. I wasn't there last night, but if 3K is accurate, that seems low even for this time of yr.
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Even during Frank's years the attendance was shitty during xmas break and slightly there before. I wasn't there last night, but if 3K is accurate, that seems low even for this time of yr.
surely someone on this board went yesterday?
K-State Sports announced attendance of 12,266 (paid)
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yeah because attendance isn't a good measure of interest or lack thereof :rolleyes:
I'm quite confident that people were uninterested in Savannah St. more than they were uninterested in KSU basketball. Had we played any team from a P5 conference I would bet there would have been more people there.
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yeah because attendance isn't a good measure of interest or lack thereof :rolleyes:
I'm quite confident that people were uninterested in Savannah St. more than they were uninterested in KSU basketball. Had we played any team from a P5 conference I would bet there would have been more people there.
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yeah probably had nothing to do with how unwatchable we've been
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guys, I don't care at all about attendance or the sav st game. I'm talking about the general lack of anyone caring about kstate basketball right now. like, maybe it's just me and I'm projecting my not caring at all on everyone else but message boarding and twittering seems to be really apathetic in general.
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Even during Frank's years the attendance was shitty during xmas break and slightly there before. I wasn't there last night, but if 3K is accurate, that seems low even for this time of yr.
surely someone on this board went yesterday?
K-State Sports announced attendance of 12,266 (paid)
I was there. 3K is probably a good ball park. Got soaked from the walk in. Sitting with wet clothes to watch that. Good times!
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remember when Huggy used to call out our fans? that was before we even went to the tourney once. Now we've got a pretty good run going, and if oscar tried calling out the fans, it would just be sad/funny.
#depressing
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guys, I don't care at all about attendance or the sav st game. I'm talking about the general lack of anyone caring about kstate basketball right now. like, maybe it's just me and I'm projecting my not caring at all on everyone else but message boarding and twittering seems to be really apathetic in general.
K-State basketball games have pretty much always been the highlight of my week. This even applied to the Wooly/Asbury/Altman years. I can't remember a season where I missed watching/attending/listening to more than one game. I turned the game off during the second half of the Pitt game and haven't watched an entire game since then.
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remember when Huggy used to call out our fans? that was before we even went to the tourney once. Now we've got a pretty good run going, and if oscar tried calling out the fans, it would just be sad/funny.
#depressing
oscar is just happy to be here! And who can blame him!
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I'm finding that once it's been ruined for you and you stop caring for a significant period of time, you really can't get back to where you were before. It just isn't as fun. Maybe they have to get really good again.
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K-State is already reverting back to being a football school.
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It was really nice out Sunday and I went for a drive. I flipped the game on radio and instantly heard "nice play by Vulture" like 2-3 minutes into the game, and immediately flipped back to the Seahawks game in time to hear Marshawn punch in the go-ahead TD.
Stopped by the mailbox when I got home and found another hoops ticket solicitation.
Cued up the game on DVR at night and next thing I knew I realized it was halftime and I hadn't really watched any of it while bbs'n and read'n.
But I'll be happy to pile on if somebody who cares gives the AD a bunch of crap about #oscar.
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maybe for another thread, but can we talk about how embarrassing it is when Vulture does something positive (taking a charge) and celebrates like he just won the lottery.
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K-State is already reverting back to being a football school.
We've been a football school since Asbury, always will be from now on. Even when Frank had it going, we were still a football school to most fans.
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We our oddly 17 rankings ahead of where we were last year at this time in kenpom.... interesting.
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I'm very apathetic about K-State basketball. I haven't been this apathetic since Asbury years. I don't check the schedule to see when they are playing, and if I know that they are playing I don't care to watch. I'm embarrassed to admit all this but it feels good to say it to others. It's not just that we are 6-4 or whatever, but it's how the team plays. To me it seems like the simple fundamentals of bball does not exist with this team. Hell even Frank got pissed over lack of rebounding and turnovers. Also, oscar is really boring. I still love my Cats and want them to win every game. I'm just meh right now. How can I get rid of the meh feeling? Am I still on my down from the Royals?
Remember when K-State bball used to have a lot of adorable players? Remember the Junkyard Cats? This team has no personality. rough ridin' Hodor Hodor all over the place. I don't even have Spradling to be mad at anymore. :frown:
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I may also be projecting, but no one seems to care at all.
Who knows, maybe when conf starts? In the past there has def been fans who refuse to pay attn until after the bowl, but there were still pleny bbs' ers and twitter'ers excited before the bowl. Now, it seems like hardly any interest at all. Super sad. I want my KSU BB excitement back.
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maybe for another thread, but can we talk about how embarrassing it is when Vulture does something positive (taking a charge) and celebrates like he just won the lottery.
Yes, it's incredibly embarrassing. Smile because you hit a good shot not because you got lucky stripes called it on the other guy.
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I would be excited about Cat hoops if they just would have beaten Arizona.
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Yeah. It would be enough to hold on to for a while, anyway.
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I will probably tune into the Texas A&M game because they are a former conference opponent that used to be good. Beating those guys would be more fun than beating some other mediocre school.
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If you attend/watch/chat with the right people, anything can be lol'd at.
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In previous years it was extremely easy to get emotionally attached and involved with Cat hoops. This year it isn't. At all. I think it's because I've always appreciated exceptional effort on defense and seeing the players just having fun playing. I can't say that I've seen them having fun this year, even when they're winning.
Should I have gotten more excited after Vulture's third charge in like two minutes? Meh *yawn*
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Nino is the closest thing we have to a JYC, and Jamar is disappointed in me for even bringing him up.
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This team would be a whole lot more watchable if they had a Luis Colon type to go out and enforce on the court.
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i dont think i care enough to force ADJC to fire oscar but id probably get super drunk, throw a headband on and march around the ernie barrett statue.
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In all honesty, Frank's teams were pretty similar in the OOC (save 09-10), they just never played in a tournament the same level as Maui.
Also people were rough ridin' pissed about it. Someone pull up the archives after the Ole Miss game in PR.
Yeah, Frank had a couple of #BID OOC stretches before #BID was cool. George Mason and Oregon in 08. Kentucky, Iowa, Oregon in 09.
And there is nothing like a nice FT% meltdown.
I melted down pretty hard after the Fort Hays State win. Felt pretty good.
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Would there ever be sufficient fan/donor discontent to fire any basketball coach here?
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If oscar can fill the stadium and keep sufficient revenue while sucking ass then I guess he will keep his job.
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The thing abt oscar is that he sucks, but he doesn't suck hard enough. I have no idea how he presents with the cigars, though. He IS awk AF, although maybe the cigars don't mind. I don't know enough about high-level internal KSU athletics politics to know if that matters.
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I think this team can be better, much better. I had similar thoughts the last two years, but my perception during those times was that if K-State could get straightened out on offense that things would improve, and they did. This year I see very capable offensive team that's leaderless and soft. A much worse situation IMO, and that's on oscar.
But, K-State can't afford to have a basketball program that's not making decent jack, so like I said, get out your "whichever number is less" slide rules and start calculating . . . provided oscar craps the bed.
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Part of me still has hope that we'll figure it out. I just really need something to get into after the bowl game and I need them to not suck.
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Cat hoops is just the Bridge to get me to the #batcats. eff you oscar Weber.
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We overcame adversity enough to finish 5th and get a cup of coffee in the tournament last year. There was a time when that was used as the low bar (BB, before oscar).
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I guess it really comes down to how secure, both in himself and his current job, John Currie feels. Is it more important to John to do whatever it takes to put K-State sports in the leadership of the best hands possible, or is more important to John to ensure that he avoids looking like he made a mistake?
Here's the thing though, I really wouldn't call the Weber hire a mistake IF we fire Weber after this year (assuming it goes like renowned basketball expert, Ken Pomeroy, thinks it will go). oscar coached Frank's players to a share of the Big 12 title, which was great! But, failing to fire Weber before he does what we all KNOW he will do (i.e. drive the program directly into the ground just like he did at Illinois) would be a HUGE MISTAKE.
It will be very fun to watch how Currie handles this. I am very much looking forward to it. :bwpopcorn:
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Here's the thing though, I really wouldn't call the Weber hire a mistake IF we fire Weber after this year (assuming it goes like renowned basketball expert, Ken Pomeroy, thinks it will go).
It would still be a mistake because we can't go back to ART w/Frank or Gottlieb or any other non-oscar coach. Now the next coach will start w/the oscar crew.
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i'm terrified of experiencing the same mediocrity that he displayed at illinois. currie won't fire that, imho. could be wrong. and, as always, i'm hoping everything turns around and oscar is wildly successful.
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He could be fine if there was a group of ridic funded boosters buying players without his knowledge, imo
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I do not see how any sane person could watch this team to this point and conclude, "well, maybe he'll get it together, this is just like the last two years."
It's not. This team is soft, out of shape, and leaderless for the most part.
Just wait until our boy ADJC gets to make a football hire....eff.
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Here's the thing though, I really wouldn't call the Weber hire a mistake IF we fire Weber after this year (assuming it goes like renowned basketball expert, Ken Pomeroy, thinks it will go).
It would still be a mistake because we can't go back to ART w/Frank or Gottlieb or any other non-oscar coach. Now the next coach will start w/the oscar crew.
A good coach could build a winning team around Foster.
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how many people cared enough to go the game on a nice Sunday evening yesterday? were there 3k there?
Exactly. No one at the games, and the people there don't seem to care.
I heard louder cheers for the cowboy dancers at half time a few games back than I have for the team all season.
A 5PM Sunday tipoff against Savannah State is a joke, no idea why basketball ops did that. We've had games on graduation weekend every single year, I never remember having a 5PM Sunday tipoff.
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I do not see how any sane person could watch this team to this point and conclude, "well, maybe he'll get it together, this is just like the last two years."
It's not. This team is soft, out of shape, and leaderless for the most part.
Just wait until our boy ADJC gets to make a football hire....eff.
FWIW I think we will be fine.
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If we don't make the NCAA this year, I want him fired. His kids, his scheme, his fault.
However, I don't think any majority will care unless we miss the NCAA and don't get an NIT invite. Even then, tucks will want to give him one more shot and Juniors Wes, Marcus, and DJamer will win his job back.
No matter how well this season goes there is literally no way we won't have 2 or 3 significant transfers.
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If we don't make the NCAA this year, I want him fired. His kids, his scheme, his fault.
However, I don't think any majority will care unless we miss the NCAA and don't get an NIT invite. Even then, tucks will want to give him one more shot and Juniors Wes, Marcus, and DJamer will win his job back.
No matter how well this season goes there is literally no way we won't have 2 or 3 significant transfers.
Burned Redshirts:
DJamer
Bolden
Edwards
Hurt
Low probability:
Marcus
Wes (Unless he doesn't get it turned around)
Malek
Medium probability
Tre
Highest Probability (Would be a one or the other situation):
Jevon
Nigel
Bolden could be a Brucing. I still think he is interesting. How Nigel role is handle is very key to how things shake out. I get the logic turnover, roster just has a weird build to it. I would say 1-2.
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what's interesting about bolden? sucked with the Hoyas, sucks with us. very typical mid-90's k-state big eating up a scholarship with no hope of ever contributing anything.
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how many people cared enough to go the game on a nice Sunday evening yesterday? were there 3k there?
I heard louder cheers for the cowboy dancers at half time a few games back than I have for the team all season.
They were far more entertaining and in-sync than any other Kansas State team on the floor that evening.
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what's interesting about bolden? sucked with the Hoyas, sucks with us. very typical mid-90's k-state big eating up a scholarship with no hope of ever contributing anything.
A real S&C coach (Greenawalt) could turn him into a serviceable spell for Gip, Hurt and Nino. The young man needs to eat a rough ridin' sandwich and spend some time in a weight room.
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Personally, I have less enthusiasm for both goEMAW and twitter than I've had in previous years.
Basketball in years past: I'll watch if it's on TV, don't really care if it's not.
Basketball now: Exact same.
goEMAW in years past: Read every thread.
goEMAW now: God, is there even a single thread title that looks appealing enough to click on?
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what's interesting about bolden? sucked with the Hoyas, sucks with us. very typical mid-90's k-state big eating up a scholarship with no hope of ever contributing anything.
A real S&C coach (Greenawalt) could turn him into a serviceable spell for Gip, Hurt and Nino. The young man needs to eat a rough ridin' sandwich and spend some time in a weight room.
i disagree. he's just not good at basketball.
has nothing to do with strength or conditioning.
talent in big men is pretty easy to recognize and this dude is lost out there. this is my impression after not seeing much ksu hoops this season though so maybe he is just a few reps on the incline away from cat fame and fortune
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what's interesting about bolden? sucked with the Hoyas, sucks with us. very typical mid-90's k-state big eating up a scholarship with no hope of ever contributing anything.
A real S&C coach (Greenawalt) could turn him into a serviceable spell for Gip, Hurt and Nino. The young man needs to eat a rough ridin' sandwich and spend some time in a weight room.
i disagree. he's just not good at basketball.
has nothing to do with strength or conditioning.
talent in big men is pretty easy to recognize and this dude is lost out there. this is my impression after not seeing much ksu hoops this season though so maybe he is just a few reps on the incline away from cat fame and fortune
No, he'll never good, but he's absolutely worthless in the physical condition that he is in currently.
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The announcer(s) last year that said that the team still had a "residue of toughness" or whatever were right. Instead of it being ingrained, it got washed off with some Axe body wash and a pouf.
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I dvr every game and end up fastforwarding through 85% of it.
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I don't have DVR. I have had to miss nearly half the games because of conflicts, but I've still done stats and watched highlights. The stats are generally pretty informative on how ugly the games have been.
I'm fine with people getting as pissed as they want, but I think its silly to think that a small segment of fans is going to do anything to force Currie's hand at this point on oscar. At the end of the day Currie is a bottom line guy and if the bottom line drops for basketball because oscar fails he'll be gone. I have zero fear of a Wooly type scenario happening.
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I'm not sure I'll even bother to watch them play UT at the drum. Under Frank I would've made that and the Baylor game, easily. I'll tune in if I stumble onto them while flipping channels, but really my level of engagement is limiting to reading Peggy Pos/Nancy negs and _FAN stats.
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Good (I guess) news: I have some pretty tuckish family members, who are huge oscar supporters, that have already moved to wait and see mode and will be in the firing camp if things don't improve. Point being, the tucks are slowly turning on oscar too.
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I am actually more intrigued to see how oscar reacts if it doesn't go well. His track record is to lay the blame on everyone else, make AWFUL excuses and generally poison his team from the inside while trying to look like a nice guy.
I mean, he blamed jet lag for 2 weeks. rough ridin' Buzz Aldrin never had that much jet lag.
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And I think the Tucks will turn on oscar because of awful defense, turnovers, FT% and excuses. Not necessarily in that order.
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_FAN is right, and that sucks, because that means, unless foster and crew ask for a transfer this season and scare Currie regarding providing a crap product next yr, we will have at least one more year of oscar due to when the ticket sales are processed for next season.
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Tucks have had a taste of sustained success and they like it. Most of that has been more competitive against their rivals to the east.
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I don't have DVR. I have had to miss nearly half the games because of conflicts, but I've still done stats and watched highlights. The stats are generally pretty informative on how ugly the games have been.
I'm fine with people getting as pissed as they want, but I think its silly to think that a small segment of fans is going to do anything to force Currie's hand at this point on oscar. At the end of the day Currie is a bottom line guy and if the bottom line drops for basketball because oscar fails he'll be gone. I have zero fear of a Wooly type scenario happening.
dude DVR rules.
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I am actually more intrigued to see how oscar reacts if it doesn't go well. His track record is to lay the blame on everyone else, make AWFUL excuses and generally poison his team from the inside while trying to look like a nice guy.
I mean, he blamed jet lag for 2 weeks. rough ridin' Buzz Aldrin never had that much jet lag.
Power outage in manhattan last night.
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I am actually more intrigued to see how oscar reacts if it doesn't go well. His track record is to lay the blame on everyone else, make AWFUL excuses and generally poison his team from the inside while trying to look like a nice guy.
I mean, he blamed jet lag for 2 weeks. rough ridin' Buzz Aldrin never had that much jet lag.
Power outage in manhattan last night.
Oh man, can't wait.
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I am actually more intrigued to see how oscar reacts if it doesn't go well. His track record is to lay the blame on everyone else, make AWFUL excuses and generally poison his team from the inside while trying to look like a nice guy.
I mean, he blamed jet lag for 2 weeks. rough ridin' Buzz Aldrin never had that much jet lag.
wait, when did he blame jet lag???
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I am actually more intrigued to see how oscar reacts if it doesn't go well. His track record is to lay the blame on everyone else, make AWFUL excuses and generally poison his team from the inside while trying to look like a nice guy.
I mean, he blamed jet lag for 2 weeks. rough ridin' Buzz Aldrin never had that much jet lag.
wait, when did he blame jet lag???
Pretty sure it was after the close call against Bradley.
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I am actually more intrigued to see how oscar reacts if it doesn't go well. His track record is to lay the blame on everyone else, make AWFUL excuses and generally poison his team from the inside while trying to look like a nice guy.
I mean, he blamed jet lag for 2 weeks. rough ridin' Buzz Aldrin never had that much jet lag.
wait, when did he blame jet lag???
He has basically fit it into every single interview he has had since he set foot back on the mainland.
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I am actually more intrigued to see how oscar reacts if it doesn't go well. His track record is to lay the blame on everyone else, make AWFUL excuses and generally poison his team from the inside while trying to look like a nice guy.
I mean, he blamed jet lag for 2 weeks. rough ridin' Buzz Aldrin never had that much jet lag.
wait, when did he blame jet lag???
Pitt
Bradley
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"Scheduling is more important than recruiting."
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"Scheduling is more important than recruiting."
Bill's done some damage to KSU's mindset
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"Scheduling is more important than recruiting."
Bill's done some damage to KSU's mindset
Bill didn't do that to oscar.
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Basketball is really fun when you are good at it. I will always care. I hate how boring this team is, just like oscar.
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Also if football ever gets outlawed because of too many 'sketties then we will really want to have been paying attention to our basketball program and not letting it get all oscar'd up.
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Hopefully the lack of attendance in KC will send a bit of a message to JC. Granted A&M blows, but it is going to be empty on Saturday.
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Hopefully the lack of attendance in KC will send a bit of a message to JC. Granted A&M blows, but it is going to be empty on Saturday.
i turned down box seats.
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yeah - been offered free tickets on 3 occasions. No thanks :blindfold:
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If we don't make the NCAA this year, I want him fired. His kids, his scheme, his fault.
However, I don't think any majority will care unless we miss the NCAA and don't get an NIT invite. Even then, tucks will want to give him one more shot and Juniors Wes, Marcus, and DJamer will win his job back.
No matter how well this season goes there is literally no way we won't have 2 or 3 significant transfers.
Burned Redshirts:
DJamer
Bolden
Edwards
Hurt
Low probability:
Marcus
Wes (Unless he doesn't get it turned around)
Malek
Medium probability
Tre
Highest Probability (Would be a one or the other situation):
Jevon
Nigel
Bolden could be a Brucing. I still think he is interesting. How Nigel role is handle is very key to how things shake out. I get the logic turnover, roster just has a weird build to it. I would say 1-2.
That's a nice little trick to put those guys in categories but those are totally useless. They are all losing games while playing horribly at times while the coach is playing games with the line up
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Hopefully the lack of attendance in KC will send a bit of a message to JC. Granted A&M blows, but it is going to be empty on Saturday.
i turned down box seats.
I bought tickets a few weeks ago and got second row.
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I'll be there but was just on the website looking at tickets, tons available in every section besides sideline seats
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Let's have a game in KC. Okay . . . about about aTm, they're a needle mover.
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Yeah, I don't think Currie cares that much about the game in KC as long as the OOD has 12K+ sold tickets every game.
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I'm going to the game in KC because its important to me that we continue to have one every year. I am not that excited tho. A&M is complete pud. The UNLV, Alabama, and Florida games were all awesome environments as was the CBE. All KC Cats should support it and go the game even if only to help make sure future games happen
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If the Cats were playing A&M in Wichita, there would be a better crowd.
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Hopefully the lack of attendance in KC will send a bit of a message to JC. Granted A&M blows, but it is going to be empty on Saturday.
i turned down box seats.
I bought tickets a few weeks ago and got second row.
Student tickets are only $10 and they are still for sale FFS
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I think I'm going to wait until basketball season starts before I begin calling for Weber's head.
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Yeah, I don't think Currie cares that much about the game in KC as long as the OOD has 12K+ sold tickets every game.
KC has a huge alumni base, and we only play there a couple times a year. He's going to be at least mildly embarrassed when nobody shows up to a game that should have been at least a decent draw. I'm sure he'll be more embarrassed about that than he was when Frank Martin said swear words loud enough that kids could hear him...or at least he should be.
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I'll be there in my K-State swag, you dig?! :gocho:
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There would probably be more people in attendance if they weren't jet lagged.
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Yeah, I don't think Currie cares that much about the game in KC as long as the OOD has 12K+ sold tickets every game.
KC has a huge alumni base, and we only play there a couple times a year. He's going to be at least mildly embarrassed when nobody shows up to a game that should have been at least a decent draw. I'm sure he'll be more embarrassed about that than he was when Frank Martin said swear words loud enough that kids could hear him...or at least he should be.
At this point Currie shouldn't be stunned by the shitty attendance at the KC games, the better attended games have been the exception. If it wouldn't be such a political mess the KC game should just get ripped from them.
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I'm going to the game in KC because its important to me that we continue to have one every year. I am not that excited tho. A&M is complete pud. The UNLV, Alabama, and Florida games were all awesome environments as was the CBE. All KC Cats should support it and go the game even if only to help make sure future games happen
Yep. I used to get really excited for Sprint Center games. I literally have zero enthusiasm for it this year. This team is just so rough ridin' boring and gross.
I'm still going though.
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I am actually more intrigued to see how oscar reacts if it doesn't go well. His track record is to lay the blame on everyone else, make AWFUL excuses and generally poison his team from the inside while trying to look like a nice guy.
I mean, he blamed jet lag for 2 weeks. rough ridin' Buzz Aldrin never had that much jet lag.
You young posters at home watching this bbs, take notice of this. This is high level stuff here. On point, and entertaining as eff. I'm not going to sugarcoat this...LSOC has always had "it," so maybe this bar is too high. Even as a youngster writing letters to the Collegian we could see it. Still, something to strive for. Get better every day.
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Hopefully the lack of attendance in KC will send a bit of a message to JC. Granted A&M blows, but it is going to be empty on Saturday.
i turned down box seats.
yeah - been offered free tickets on 3 occasions. No thanks :blindfold:
Huh. I wonder if you could think of someone in KC who would like them?
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Yeah, I don't think Currie cares that much about the game in KC as long as the OOD has 12K+ sold tickets every game.
KC has a huge alumni base, and we only play there a couple times a year. He's going to be at least mildly embarrassed when nobody shows up to a game that should have been at least a decent draw. I'm sure he'll be more embarrassed about that than he was when Frank Martin said swear words loud enough that kids could hear him...or at least he should be.
At this point Currie shouldn't be stunned by the shitty attendance at the KC games, the better attended games have been the exception. If it wouldn't be such a political mess the KC game should just get ripped from them.
Attendence has been good whenever we've played a P5 school.
Of course attendance is going to be horrible when they trot out Florida A&M.
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Hopefully the lack of attendance in KC will send a bit of a message to JC. Granted A&M blows, but it is going to be empty on Saturday.
i turned down box seats.
yeah - been offered free tickets on 3 occasions. No thanks :blindfold:
Huh. I wonder if you could think of someone in KC who would like them?
i should've said seat. it was an offer from a friend and when i turned it down, he asked his dad. if it was just two seats i would've grabbed them and gave them to you or someone.
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I'll take any seats offered for the game
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I'll take any seats offered for the game
If you and Pete don't go to the game, go over to clams' and I'll watch with you guys via videoconference and we'll talk important seattle bbq stuff once we're bored of the game.
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Also I don't miss any sprint center games because its a good opp to go across to pnl and smash energy drinks and vodka's with your buds and hit on girls that all tell you they went to blue valley west.
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IMO, the atmosphere of college and K-State basketball is completely different now compared to Wooly. Wooly should have never been given the amount of time he got, but the money wasn't nearly as big then. The bottom line will speak for itself now and if the program stinks and fans don't but tickets and show up for games then oscar will fire himself.
At this point I still care about K-State basketball and will follow at the highest level I can. That said, I haven't been to a game yet and live within 30 minutes of the OOD.
There's a TV in the cafeteria here. One day at lunch, some K-State game was on. That's as close as I've come to watching a game.
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Also I don't miss any sprint center games because its a good opp to go across to pnl and smash energy drinks and vodka's with your buds and hit on girls that all tell you they went to blue valley west.
Literally none of that sounds enjoyable.
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IMO, the atmosphere of college and K-State basketball is completely different now compared to Wooly. Wooly should have never been given the amount of time he got, but the money wasn't nearly as big then. The bottom line will speak for itself now and if the program stinks and fans don't but tickets and show up for games then oscar will fire himself.
At this point I still care about K-State basketball and will follow at the highest level I can. That said, I haven't been to a game yet and live within 30 minutes of the OOD.
There's a TV in the cafeteria here. One day at lunch, some K-State game was on. That's as close as I've come to watching a game.
woah. worldwide coverage!!!!
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#EgyptsTeam
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I really enjoy holiday cat games at sprint
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I really enjoy holiday cat games at sprint
Me too! Maybe i'll see ya. :crossfingers:
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oscar is making excuses again on 810 right now. :curse:
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I drastically overslept and was woken up by a personal call from kstatesports asking me to buy tickets to the sprint center game. Not even a robocall, a live person directly dialing me and speaking to be by name hoping that I'll buy a $10 ticket and also an airline ticket I guess to see the brucecats in that place across from mcfadden's.
1) LSOC, tickets ARE available.
2) I appreciate the unintentional wake-up call.
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http://www.kstatesports.com/blog/2014/12/kansas-roots-close-to-keadys-heart.html
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.kstatesports.com%2Fblog%2Fassets_c%2F2014%2F12%2F10629748-thumb-250x250-50140.jpeg&hash=eefcd6b9a5772a5a20d3756bad985bae162bbf70)
On Saturday, the K-State men's basketball team (6-4) will travel to Kansas City to face Texas A&M (7-2) at the Sprint Center in the Wildcat Classic. The game is set to tip off at 6 p.m., and will be aired on ESPNU.
Tickets for this weekend's game can be purchased through K-State's online ticket office by clicking here, or fans can call 1-800-221-CATS.
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oscar is making excuses again on 810 right now. :curse:
recap??
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Also I don't miss any sprint center games because its a good opp to go across to pnl and smash energy drinks and vodka's with your buds and hit on girls that all tell you they went to blue valley west.
Literally none of that sounds enjoyable.
Do you understand tongue in cheek? I know you do.
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oscar is making excuses again on 810 right now. :curse:
recap??
I honestly could barely understand him. He's a sloppy talker. He thinks Jevon has brought some scoring this season that they didn't expect to see. So there's that. :Ugh:
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Also I don't miss any sprint center games because its a good opp to go across to pnl and smash energy drinks and vodka's with your buds and hit on girls that all tell you they went to blue valley west.
Literally none of that sounds enjoyable.
Do you understand tongue in cheek? I know you do.
I do, but those shoes you ordered are something a PnL goer would wear.
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Also I don't miss any sprint center games because its a good opp to go across to pnl and smash energy drinks and vodka's with your buds and hit on girls that all tell you they went to blue valley west.
Literally none of that sounds enjoyable.
Do you understand tongue in cheek? I know you do.
I do, but those shoes you ordered are something a PnL goer would wear.
Well, I posted that I had bought those to make fun of myself, so I'd agree with you.
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:Yuck: