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General Discussion => Essentially Flyertalk => Topic started by: Benja on November 11, 2014, 07:30:25 PM
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What would an adult do? Like buy a humidifier or some deal?
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Why would dry air be gross?
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my eyes are all itchy and dry and two other people have agreed about the dryness :dunno:
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set up one of those "cool zone" fans they have on NFL sidelines
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Yes, humidifier. Good idea. Our house has a built in one and then we got lil sd an additional one for his room because we live basically in Antarctica.
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Definitely a humidifier. I have a portable that uses a standard water bottle. Perfect for my hotel room. Have a big one hooked to my duct system at home.
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Yes, humidifier. Good idea. Our house has a built in one and then we got lil sd an additional one for his room because we live basically in Antarctica.
I found out I have an automatic one down in like the darkest corner of the basement, and it looks like I need to change the water panel, whatever the heck that is, because it appears it hasn't been done in like three years. I'm not sure how to find out if it's working. Instinct tells me the farthest corner of the basement isn't the best place for it but maybe that doesn't matter.
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well, that sounds weird. Mine like blows water into my houses heater somehow.
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well, that sounds weird. Mine like blows water into my houses heater somehow.
Ok. I'll probably try to replace this one with one that does that. Because that sounds like how it all should work.
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I have a portable that uses a standard water bottle.
This is interesting. Going to look into this as well.
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Whole house humidifier lesson? I'm drinking and bored in a hotel bar. So why not?
Bypass - connects to supply and return. Uses system fan to push air across panel.
Fan powered - has internal fan to push air across panel. Mounts on supply duct.
Steam - nozzle inserts in supply duct. Uses system fan to push humidity (steam) into space.
Most people have a bypass type humidifier. Panel should be changed annually. Control is usually on the return duct near the humidifier or next to the thermostat.
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it's a humidifier and not a dehumidifier, benja?
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Benja do you know if the air distribution in your house is entirely sheet metal or do you have flex duct anywhere? I'm guessing if your unit is in the basement that it's probably all sheet metal duct but in the event you do have some flex duct in there you won't want the in duct humidifier bc the insulation in the flex will get wet and become a mold factory and you'll probably die from it
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Not true. ^^^^
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Not true. ^^^^
:dubious: which part fella? I didn't take a Wikipedia crash course in HVAC design
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HVAC-off's are the rough ridin' best
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Not true. ^^^^
:dubious: which part fella? I didn't take a Wikipedia crash course in HVAC design
The part about the insulation getting wet. Not true at all. Flex duct has a plastic covering inside and out. The insulation can not get wet. If you have flex holding water, you have design issues.
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Benja with the cool zone fan you can use it to cool off after workouts too
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ipa may be in the pocket of big humidity, but he's right about this
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it's a humidifier and not a dehumidifier, benja?
yeah it says automatic humidifier :dunno: It's hooked up to a water hose. I didn't even know I had it. It looks kinda sketchy.
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Benja do you know if the air distribution in your house is entirely sheet metal or do you have flex duct anywhere? I'm guessing if your unit is in the basement that it's probably all sheet metal duct but in the event you do have some flex duct in there you won't want the in duct humidifier bc the insulation in the flex will get wet and become a mold factory and you'll probably die from it
holy crap _hub
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Benja with the cool zone fan you can use it to cool off after workouts too
I have a tiny one in my garage, for serious
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Whole house humidifier lesson? I'm drinking and bored in a hotel bar. So why not?
Bypass - connects to supply and return. Uses system fan to push air across panel.
Fan powered - has internal fan to push air across panel. Mounts on supply duct.
Steam - nozzle inserts in supply duct. Uses system fan to push humidity (steam) into space.
Most people have a bypass type humidifier. Panel should be changed annually. Control is usually on the return duct near the humidifier or next to the thermostat.
:thumbs:
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Update: Sketchy basement humidifier is in fact turned on.
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Benja do you know if the air distribution in your house is entirely sheet metal or do you have flex duct anywhere? I'm guessing if your unit is in the basement that it's probably all sheet metal duct but in the event you do have some flex duct in there you won't want the in duct humidifier bc the insulation in the flex will get wet and become a mold factory and you'll probably die from it
holy crap _hub
everything looks sheet metal-y _hub
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When I was a kid my parents had this giant brown humidifier with a big wheel thing inside and you had to pour like 100 pitchers of water into it every day. I loved pouring the water into it. So fun.
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When I was a kid my parents had this giant brown humidifier with a big wheel thing inside and you had to pour like 100 pitchers of water into it every day. I loved pouring the water into it. So fun.
I think my parents had the exact same one. It was brown and square and would like shake and stuff when it turned on.
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Right on. Well if your humidifier is chuggin along and it still feels too dry then like IPA said it's probably about time to change out the pad bc minerals and crap accumulate and reduce the efficiency. You could always crank up the humidity but apparently residential construction isn't always of the highest quality and having that high of a relative humidity in your house When it's cold outside, while it may feel comfortable, can cause damage. So if you see water droplets forming on your windows then you might have your humidifier turned up too high.
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Thanks goEMAW!
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Yeah listen to IPA here
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Yeah listen to IPA here
I did. I almost went to go get a filter bajiggy tonight but its super cold out.
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My HVAC system has a built in humidifier thing from when my GPA lived in the house. It's been turned off since I moved in 2 years ago because I didn't want to screw anything up. I'm a god damn man and don't notice the effects of low "humidity" in the winter....BUT....if I wanted to give this system a try, what would I need to know to make sure everything runs smooth?
**If anyone is an expert HVAC Humidifier guy I will take pictures and post them so they can tell me what to do***
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I am also a god damn man and I also have a humidifier I haven't used in two years. Being a man, I compensate w daily moisturiser, like a man.
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I like how the narrative here is apparently being a man means not caring about your surroundings. Being a man means making your surroundings what the hell you want them to be. I want more humidity in my air, gosh darnit.
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Yeah. I want that too but keep forgetting to address the issue(hard water mumped up the tiny supply tube prior to me being the house, I think)
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One) Just now found out there's a Benji and a Benja here. It's like finding out your zipper has been down for a week.
Two) Had the heater on last night and my lips got all dry and the bottom one cracked. Worst thing ever. I need a lip humidifier.
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My HVAC system has a built in humidifier thing from when my GPA lived in the house. It's been turned off since I moved in 2 years ago because I didn't want to screw anything up. I'm a god damn man and don't notice the effects of low "humidity" in the winter....BUT....if I wanted to give this system a try, what would I need to know to make sure everything runs smooth?
**If anyone is an expert HVAC Humidifier guy I will take pictures and post them so they can tell me what to do***
Open the water valve. Turn up the humidity setting. Not much too them. If you're uncertain, post pics. I can walk you through it.
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I am also a god damn man and I also have a humidifier I haven't used in two years. Being a man, I compensate w daily moisturiser, like a man.
The Jack Black line of skin care products has been a game changer for me and no I'm not going to take it to the shame yourself thread b/c it is not affiliated with the actor who has brought joy and laughter to millions.
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One time a girl told me I had really soft skin. Felt manly but also kinda girly.
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Back to the mold question:
There is often a lot of construction debris left in ducts, and dust and stuff naturally get in there over time. Seems like if you don't get your ducts cleaned every so often, that this could get moist, with a whole house humidifier, and bust out some mold. :dunno:
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Growth of the bad stuff happens when relative humidity is greater than 60%. You're not going to have sustained levels that high in the duct system. If RH stays that high in the duct, you have other issues to address.
Most fungal growth occurs in the coil. UV lamp takes care of that.
Duct cleaning is good after initial construction. Have you ever looked in there? Yeesh. They treat it like a trash can. Frequency beyond that is dependent on duct location and dirt infiltration.
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a wet or a damp basement is a breeding ground for mold, umm mold develops within the first 24 to 48 hours and action needs to be taken within this time in order to elimnate mold growth, it is very important, mold can reproduce rapidly unless steps are taken to dry the basement, we need to dry that basement, if we leave the mold to multiply your going to find it growing on your walls, ceilings, and will begin to produce a musky odor throughout the home and in the basement
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Found out today that there is a knob on my heater unit that controls the humidity with an indicator light for changing the panel and everything. :surprised:
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i would recommend buying a high dollar hygrometer and then reporting back.
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Found out today that there is a knob on my heater unit that controls the humidity with an indicator light for changing the panel and everything. :surprised:
turn the mold knob down and the party knob up
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i would recommend buying a high dollar hygrometer and then reporting back.
I don't think I'm going to do that
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i would recommend buying a high dollar hygrometer and then reporting back.
I don't think I'm going to do that
then how are you going to know if youre soft or if this is a real problem?
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i would recommend buying a high dollar hygrometer and then reporting back.
I don't think I'm going to do that
then how are you going to know if youre soft or if this is a real problem?
I'll probably just walk around and see if the air feels wetter.
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...you had an extra pair of gloves the entire time?
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Guys the Nest thermostat has a humidity sensor on it.
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Guys the Nest thermostat has a humidity sensor on it.
Mine says 38% right now. What is ideal?
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25% is minimum, I think over 50% might be too much. You're right in the wheel house steve dave! :thumbs:
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My comfort zone is 35-45. Much drier than that causes sinus overload. Much higher and the windowsills will sweat.
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Guys the Nest thermostat has a humidity sensor on it.
Mine says 38% right now. What is ideal?
I design for 50% RH in buildings but everything I have read says 50 is inappropriate for residential because it is not "tight" construction. If there are any parts of your house that are drafty in the winter then that 38% might be a bit on the high side.
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Our house is brand new and airtight. Like if you are in the bathroom for too long with the door shut you may suffocate to death.
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@benja thanks for starting this thread. It reminded me to clean humidifier. Pretty scaled up after last winter. Good to go now!
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Guys the Nest thermostat has a humidity sensor on it.
Mine says 38% right now. What is ideal?
I design for 50% RH in buildings but everything I have read says 50 is inappropriate for residential because it is not "tight" construction. If there are any parts of your house that are drafty in the winter then that 38% might be a bit on the high side.
Do you design for winter 50% on commercial buildings?
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Wife is complaining about our house's air as well. Very dry/gross. Pretty sure little yo would complain as well if he could verbalize it. Heat and air guy says that the bypass style are kinda crappy and wants to set me up with a steam type humidifier. Please confirm if these are worth the extra scratch. tia.
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Love my whole house steam humidifier. Easy maintenance once a year. No pad to replace.
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Guys the Nest thermostat has a humidity sensor on it.
Mine says 38% right now. What is ideal?
I design for 50% RH in buildings but everything I have read says 50 is inappropriate for residential because it is not "tight" construction. If there are any parts of your house that are drafty in the winter then that 38% might be a bit on the high side.
Do you design for winter 50% on commercial buildings?
I primarily work in hospital facilities but yes, unless it's a special case it's usually 73/50% for cooling and 70/50% for heating*
*where I live we don't really have "winter" or "dry air" but you know, psychrometrics is psychrometrics.
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i would recommend buying a high dollar hygrometer and then reporting back.
update: I'm borrowing one of these, I think. I need to know for sure.
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@benja thanks for starting this thread. It reminded me to clean humidifier. Pretty scaled up after last winter. Good to go now!
No problem bud. It motivated me to do like ten things I would have never done either.
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Wife is complaining about our house's air as well. Very dry/gross. Pretty sure little yo would complain as well if he could verbalize it. Heat and air guy says that the bypass style are kinda crappy and wants to set me up with a steam type humidifier. Please confirm if these are worth the extra scratch. tia.
I have the bypass one and can confirm that it sucks. Or at least mine does. Maybe because I messed with it too much.
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Our house is brand new and airtight. Like if you are in the bathroom for too long with the door shut you may suffocate to death.
Your house leaks like a seive, sd.
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This thread makes me wonder whether I'm gonna live or die. Having our HVAC people out this week.
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I'm guessing live, probably. Why are they coming out?
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update: I'm borrowing one of these, I think. I need to know for sure.
Buy one. https://www.trutechtools.com/Testo605H2
Or upgrade your thermostat. https://www.alpinehomeair.com/viewproduct.cfm?productID=453067597
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I primarily work in hospital facilities but yes, unless it's a special case it's usually 73/50% for cooling and 70/50% for heating*
*where I live we don't really have "winter" or "dry air" but you know, psychrometrics is psychrometrics.
Had a feeling you were in a temperate climate. You can't design for 50% winter RH in the north. You'll sweat windows and mold the walls.
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Wife is complaining about our house's air as well. Very dry/gross. Pretty sure little yo would complain as well if he could verbalize it. Heat and air guy says that the bypass style are kinda crappy and wants to set me up with a steam type humidifier. Please confirm if these are worth the extra scratch. tia.
I have the bypass one and can confirm that it sucks. Or at least mine does. Maybe because I messed with it too much.
Our bypass one seems undersized or otherwise inadequate. I can really only maintain 25% humidity in the coldest parts of the year. Sometimes I run just the fan/humidifier without the heat to get a bump in humidity. I do think the new furnace is over-sized though, so it doesn't run that much/enough.
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My hands were super dry and red last night. Gross.
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4yr old Daughter of Bf is super annouyed by the static build up in her hair. Like when I pulled her stocking cap off she immediately ran to the bathroom to wet her hair down. She almost ripped her 6yr old brother's face off for dragging a blanket over her head.
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Wife is complaining about our house's air as well. Very dry/gross. Pretty sure little yo would complain as well if he could verbalize it. Heat and air guy says that the bypass style are kinda crappy and wants to set me up with a steam type humidifier. Please confirm if these are worth the extra scratch. tia.
I have the bypass one and can confirm that it sucks. Or at least mine does. Maybe because I messed with it too much.
Our bypass one seems undersized or otherwise inadequate. I can really only maintain 25% humidity in the coldest parts of the year. Sometimes I run just the fan/humidifier without the heat to get a bump in humidity. I do think the new furnace is over-sized though, so it doesn't run that much/enough.
I'm 100% confident mine has been running perfectly for like two days straight now and it's still only up to 24% in here. I'm looking into other options.
Before I fixed it, it must have been about -10%. I don't know how we lived. My skin is still recovering.
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This is BULLSHIT
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just checked on my phone and mine is currently 33%. turned it down a bit the other day because of some condensation on my windows.
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just checked on my phone and mine is currently 33%. turned it down a bit the other day because of some condensation on my windows.
oh, that's nice. brag about 33% when i'm living in the iraqi desert over here.
also how do you check humidity on your phone.
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@benja...
If the humidifier is cranking, then there's likely other issues with the home - infiltration.
http://www.energyvanguard.com/blog-building-science-HERS-BPI/bid/57151/A-Humidifier-Is-a-Bandaid-The-Problem-Is-Infiltration (http://www.energyvanguard.com/blog-building-science-HERS-BPI/bid/57151/A-Humidifier-Is-a-Bandaid-The-Problem-Is-Infiltration)
You'll need to tighten the structure.
http://www.buildingperformancegroup.com/learn/the-importance-of-air-sealing (http://www.buildingperformancegroup.com/learn/the-importance-of-air-sealing)
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@benja...
If the humidifier is cranking, then there's likely other issues with the home - infiltration.
http://www.energyvanguard.com/blog-building-science-HERS-BPI/bid/57151/A-Humidifier-Is-a-Bandaid-The-Problem-Is-Infiltration (http://www.energyvanguard.com/blog-building-science-HERS-BPI/bid/57151/A-Humidifier-Is-a-Bandaid-The-Problem-Is-Infiltration)
You'll need to tighten the structure.
http://www.buildingperformancegroup.com/learn/the-importance-of-air-sealing (http://www.buildingperformancegroup.com/learn/the-importance-of-air-sealing)
ugh...
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thanks tho ipa
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just checked on my phone and mine is currently 33%. turned it down a bit the other day because of some condensation on my windows.
oh, that's nice. brag about 33% when i'm living in the iraqi desert over here.
also how do you check humidity on your phone.
nest thermostat app. I can also adjust the heat or ac from wherever. like I'm out of town and I want it like 75 degrees when I get to the house I can just crank that crap up when I land.
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You can DIY the air sealing. Holler if you want some references.
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my house is not sealed at all and this cold snap has me kind of mad about it. i will review the above link
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is there any way to add insulation to an already built wall? like a cajun insulation injector?
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is there any way to add insulation to an already built wall? like a cajun insulation injector?
if there is no insulation, it is easier, you can blow in loose fiber or inject foam. if there is insulation, but it's poorly installed or thin, it is a little trickier, but still doable.
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also, if you have a heat pump be aware that some whole house humidifiers won't work well because the supply air isn't warm enough.
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is there any way to add insulation to an already built wall? like a cajun insulation injector?
if there is no insulation, it is easier, you can blow in loose fiber or inject foam. if there is insulation, but it's poorly installed or thin, it is a little trickier, but still doable.
its fully stuffed in there but it lookes like shredded up cardboard bullshit
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is there any way to add insulation to an already built wall? like a cajun insulation injector?
if there is no insulation, it is easier, you can blow in loose fiber or inject foam. if there is insulation, but it's poorly installed or thin, it is a little trickier, but still doable.
its fully stuffed in there but it lookes like shredded up cardboard bullshit
then you're screwed.
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is there any way to add insulation to an already built wall? like a cajun insulation injector?
if there is no insulation, it is easier, you can blow in loose fiber or inject foam. if there is insulation, but it's poorly installed or thin, it is a little trickier, but still doable.
its fully stuffed in there but it lookes like shredded up cardboard bullshit
A life hack I've heard is people applying bubble wrap to their windows. It makes sense. An air gap is the best form of insulation.
Also FWIW unless your walls are literally made of dog turds then the windows are the only area where you will move the needle. ASHRAE published a study earlier this year where they found you can basically insulate the crap out of your walls and roof but the R value barely changes. Windows are where it's at.
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if by life hack you mean crack den hack then i agree
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The bubble wrap trick is good on old inefficient windows. Stopping air movement from outside to inside is key. Top plate in attic, window and door trim, and basement/crawl space rim joist are biggest losses in modern home. Other easy spots are electrical, plumbing and hvac openings in exterior walls.
Home Energy Audit - Part 3 - Infrared Camera Insp…: http://youtu.be/dBebUAiSJPk
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maybe bubble wrap all my windows and walls then
also my fireplace has the flue closed and the outdoor air vent closed and it still is pretty drafty. bubble wrap this bitch too?
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The bubble wrap trick is good on old inefficient windows. Stopping air movement from outside to inside is key. Top plate in attic, window and door trim, and basement/crawl space rim joist are biggest losses in modern home. Other easy spots are electrical, plumbing and hvac openings in exterior walls.
Home Energy Audit - Part 3 - Infrared Camera Insp…: http://youtu.be/dBebUAiSJPk
can i get an infrared cam and knock this out myself? i think home depot rents them. I know who's pocket you're big in, so I will ignore you if you say no.
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Lol. Infrared and a blower door. Probably not a Home Depot rental.
Energy audit is usually in the $300 ball park. It includes blower door test, infra-red inspection and report with photos.
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Lol. Infrared and a blower door. Probably not a Home Depot rental.
Energy audit is usually in the $300 ball park. It includes blower door test, infra-red inspection and report with photos.
would you take $250?
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Sure but I don't have those tools. :D
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is there any way to add insulation to an already built wall? like a cajun insulation injector?
if there is no insulation, it is easier, you can blow in loose fiber or inject foam. if there is insulation, but it's poorly installed or thin, it is a little trickier, but still doable.
its fully stuffed in there but it lookes like shredded up cardboard bullshit
A life hack I've heard is people applying bubble wrap to their windows. It makes sense. An air gap is the best form of insulation.
Also FWIW unless your walls are literally made of dog turds then the windows are the only area where you will move the needle. ASHRAE published a study earlier this year where they found you can basically insulate the crap out of your walls and roof but the R value barely changes. Windows are where it's at.
just do heat shrink film then, at least it's clear, and will give a large air cavity than a sheet of bubble wrap.
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maybe bubble wrap all my windows and walls then
also my fireplace has the flue closed and the outdoor air vent closed and it still is pretty drafty. bubble wrap this bitch too?
you can get inflatable balls to seal flues.
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26% today!
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Also i'm not putting a beach ball in my flue or whatever
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35% at this exact moment
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35% sounds so fun
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Seal those leaks @benja!
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My apartment air is super dry. What are the chances they would care enough to fix it? I'm guessing 0 percent.
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My apartment air is super dry. What are the chances they would care enough to fix it? I'm guessing 0 percent.
yep, zero.
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My apartment air is super dry. What are the chances they would care enough to fix it? I'm guessing 0 percent.
True story alert: Young dobber had a studio apartment for a few months that had the driest rough ridin' air you can imagine. I would boil water on the stove to try to increase the humidity.
Do you smart people think this was a good idea? (never mind the inefficiency, electricity was part of the rent)
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40% per the Nest....
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40% per the Nest....
My windows would be so sweaty
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Oof. That's no good, SD.
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Oof. That's no good, SD.
Yeah, that's why I keep it ~35
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mine's been about a steady, unassisted 32% over the last week I guess
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40% per the Nest....
My windows would be so sweaty
We don't even have a humidifier going...just people, cooking, showers, and stuff.
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I just use lots of lotion to stay moisturized.
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My apartment air is super dry. What are the chances they would care enough to fix it? I'm guessing 0 percent.
True story alert: Young dobber had a studio apartment for a few months that had the driest rough ridin' air you can imagine. I would boil water on the stove to try to increase the humidity.
Do you smart people think this was a good idea? (never mind the inefficiency, electricity was part of the rent)
oh come on. You guys have to have an opinion on this
Gonna win 'em all!
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i enjoy dry air and my apartment is p dry
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what's the worst part of summer? humidity! why you want humidity in your winter too is beyond me but alright i guess different strokes
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I bet we're closer on this issue than we think, seven. I mean, I love me some dry heat sometimes. Arizona in November is amazing.
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what's the worst part of summer? humidity! why you want humidity in your winter too is beyond me but alright i guess different strokes
apparently these dumbasses think soaking wet air is the tops but they don't call this place dumbasscity.com for nothing.
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:facepalm:
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My apartment air is super dry. What are the chances they would care enough to fix it? I'm guessing 0 percent.
True story alert: Young dobber had a studio apartment for a few months that had the driest rough ridin' air you can imagine. I would boil water on the stove to try to increase the humidity.
Do you smart people think this was a good idea? (never mind the inefficiency, electricity was part of the rent)
oh come on. You guys have to have an opinion on this
Gonna win 'em all!
Did it work?
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My apartment air is super dry. What are the chances they would care enough to fix it? I'm guessing 0 percent.
True story alert: Young dobber had a studio apartment for a few months that had the driest rough ridin' air you can imagine. I would boil water on the stove to try to increase the humidity.
Do you smart people think this was a good idea? (never mind the inefficiency, electricity was part of the rent)
oh come on. You guys have to have an opinion on this
Gonna win 'em all!
Did it work?
I never had a humidity gauge, but the air didn't seem as dry and gross, so I thought it did.
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40% per the Nest....
My windows would be so sweaty
We don't even have a humidifier going...just people, cooking, showers, and stuff.
How many people do you have in your house showering, cooking, and "stuff"?
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My apartment air is super dry. What are the chances they would care enough to fix it? I'm guessing 0 percent.
True story alert: Young dobber had a studio apartment for a few months that had the driest rough ridin' air you can imagine. I would boil water on the stove to try to increase the humidity.
Do you smart people think this was a good idea? (never mind the inefficiency, electricity was part of the rent)
oh come on. You guys have to have an opinion on this
Gonna win 'em all!
Did it work?
I never had a humidity gauge, but the air didn't seem as dry and gross, so I thought it did.
Sounds like it was a great idea. That was how we did it with our wood stove. Big pot sat on top simmering.
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My apartment air is super dry. What are the chances they would care enough to fix it? I'm guessing 0 percent.
True story alert: Young dobber had a studio apartment for a few months that had the driest rough ridin' air you can imagine. I would boil water on the stove to try to increase the humidity.
Do you smart people think this was a good idea? (never mind the inefficiency, electricity was part of the rent)
oh come on. You guys have to have an opinion on this
Gonna win 'em all!
I mean, that's pretty much exactly how steam humidifiers work so yes, slobber, that was very industrious of you. Although you could have just bought a tiny crappy humidifier for like 15 bucks.
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my house (built in 1908) has brand new windows and doors and HVAC with whole home humidifier (kept at 35%) nothing gets sweaty or anything, but it's just always cold. Like, as soon as the furnace shuts off it feels instantly cold again. I'm assuming this is just because I have no insulation in the walls, right?
I insulated the attic over the summer when we replaced the roof, also put in roof vents and eave vents, which helped keep the upstairs cool on the hot days. I'm thinking the next step is to insulate the basement somehow, because the floors on the first floor are ice cold. any suggestos on this? batt insulation in between the joists? spray on?
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my house (built in 1908) has brand new windows and doors and HVAC with whole home humidifier (kept at 35%) nothing gets sweaty or anything, but it's just always cold. Like, as soon as the furnace shuts off it feels instantly cold again. I'm assuming this is just because I have no insulation in the walls, right?
I insulated the attic over the summer when we replaced the roof, also put in roof vents and eave vents, which helped keep the upstairs cool on the hot days. I'm thinking the next step is to insulate the basement somehow, because the floors on the first floor are ice cold. any suggestos on this? batt insulation in between the joists? spray on?
Radiant floors bruh. Hell you could probably just shut off your central air bc the heat from the floor will keep you quite comfortable even though the thermostat might only say 65
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my house (built in 1908) has brand new windows and doors and HVAC with whole home humidifier (kept at 35%) nothing gets sweaty or anything, but it's just always cold. Like, as soon as the furnace shuts off it feels instantly cold again. I'm assuming this is just because I have no insulation in the walls, right?
I insulated the attic over the summer when we replaced the roof, also put in roof vents and eave vents, which helped keep the upstairs cool on the hot days. I'm thinking the next step is to insulate the basement somehow, because the floors on the first floor are ice cold. any suggestos on this? batt insulation in between the joists? spray on?
Radiant floors bruh. Hell you could probably just shut off your central air bc the heat from the floor will keep you quite comfortable even though the thermostat might only say 65
yeah, I'm not going to tear up 106 year old original hardwood floors I just had refinished to install radiant heating...unless it's possible to do this without destroying my house, not gonna happen.
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my house (built in 1908) has brand new windows and doors and HVAC with whole home humidifier (kept at 35%) nothing gets sweaty or anything, but it's just always cold. Like, as soon as the furnace shuts off it feels instantly cold again. I'm assuming this is just because I have no insulation in the walls, right?
I insulated the attic over the summer when we replaced the roof, also put in roof vents and eave vents, which helped keep the upstairs cool on the hot days. I'm thinking the next step is to insulate the basement somehow, because the floors on the first floor are ice cold. any suggestos on this? batt insulation in between the joists? spray on?
Don't live in brookside
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my house (built in 1908) has brand new windows and doors and HVAC with whole home humidifier (kept at 35%) nothing gets sweaty or anything, but it's just always cold. Like, as soon as the furnace shuts off it feels instantly cold again. I'm assuming this is just because I have no insulation in the walls, right?
I insulated the attic over the summer when we replaced the roof, also put in roof vents and eave vents, which helped keep the upstairs cool on the hot days. I'm thinking the next step is to insulate the basement somehow, because the floors on the first floor are ice cold. any suggestos on this? batt insulation in between the joists? spray on?
Don't live in brookside
too late :blindfold:
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i'm on page 5. this thread is disgusting.
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40% per the Nest....
My windows would be so sweaty
We don't even have a humidifier going...just people, cooking, showers, and stuff.
How many people do you have in your house showering, cooking, and "stuff"?
5 + a dog, a cat, and a partridge in a pear tree
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40% per the Nest....
My windows would be so sweaty
We don't even have a humidifier going...just people, cooking, showers, and stuff.
How many people do you have in your house showering, cooking, and "stuff"?
5 + a dog, a cat, and a partridge in a pear tree
That partridge is going to crap on everything.
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40% per the Nest....
My windows would be so sweaty
We don't even have a humidifier going...just people, cooking, showers, and stuff.
How many people do you have in your house showering, cooking, and "stuff"?
5 + a dog, a cat, and a partridge in a pear tree
Just always have a pot of coffee on. Coffee makers put off a lot of latent load (humidity) and hey, always a hot pot of coffee whenever you want.
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40% per the Nest....
My windows would be so sweaty
We don't even have a humidifier going...just people, cooking, showers, and stuff.
How many people do you have in your house showering, cooking, and "stuff"?
5 + a dog, a cat, and a partridge in a pear tree
Just always have a pot of coffee on. Coffee makers put off a lot of latent load (humidity) and hey, always a hot pot of coffee whenever you want.
Do you even Keurig bro?
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40% per the Nest....
My windows would be so sweaty
We don't even have a humidifier going...just people, cooking, showers, and stuff.
How many people do you have in your house showering, cooking, and "stuff"?
5 + a dog, a cat, and a partridge in a pear tree
Just always have a pot of coffee on. Coffee makers put off a lot of latent load (humidity) and hey, always a hot pot of coffee whenever you want.
Do you even Keurig bro?
Keurig coffee tastes like poverty. I only drink coffee from those fancy espresso machines that are all gadgety and constructed mostly of copper with all the levers and stuff.
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40% per the Nest....
My windows would be so sweaty
We don't even have a humidifier going...just people, cooking, showers, and stuff.
How many people do you have in your house showering, cooking, and "stuff"?
5 + a dog, a cat, and a partridge in a pear tree
Just always have a pot of coffee on. Coffee makers put off a lot of latent load (humidity) and hey, always a hot pot of coffee whenever you want.
Do you even Keurig bro?
Keurig coffee tastes like poverty. I only drink coffee from those fancy espresso machines that are all gadgety and constructed mostly of copper with all the levers and stuff.
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you guys have possibly inspired my to entrepreneur myself into a home energy auditor
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you guys have possibly inspired my to entrepreneur myself into a home energy auditor
I've learned more about humidity and energy junk in the last few days than you could believe.
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If the humidity gets to 100% does it rain inside your house?
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This thread should have been merged like a million posts ago
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If the humidity gets to 100% does it rain inside your house?
Fog.
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If the humidity gets to 100% does it rain inside your house?
Fog.
Sewage in Phog related?
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Just checked, I have an Aprilaire
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Oof. That's no good, SD.
Yeah, that's why I keep it ~35
I meant that windows on a 2014 home shouldn't sweat at 40%. The window installers mumped you.
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Oof. That's no good, SD.
Yeah, that's why I keep it ~35
I meant that windows on a 2014 home shouldn't sweat at 40%. The window installers mumped you.
IF SOMEBODY SCREWED WITH SD, I WILL DESTROY THEM!!!!!
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How's that dry air Benja?
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How's that dry air and window sweat with the first big storm this winter?
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Do I actually have to replace the humidifier filter thing or nah?
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Replace it before it gets all cruddy. Depends how many minerals and junk are in your water. If you wait until its cruddy it's no big deal though. Just won't be as efficient and it'll be more of a job. You know what sd, don't replace it, and enjoy a cold Miller Lite. And never give it a second thought.
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What would an adult do? Like buy a humidifier or some deal?
Beano should help.
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Do I actually have to replace the humidifier filter thing or nah?
It should be done annually. Just order online if you don't have maintenance through hvac company.
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Remember who's "big" pocket ipa is in, then apply his advice
He's the same guy that told everyone to not get a nest :lol:
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Still not a fan but to each his own. :)
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35% here. I don't have a humidifier thing. Some of you dorks should just move south.
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Since I added the foam board insulation to the band board and sealed it with expanding foam, my humidifier hasn't ran this year. Easy to install.
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this is outrageous
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This is ridiculous already. The new crib will have a whole house humidifier and I will crank that bitch up to 85%.
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Smdh, you humidityites are mumped in the head
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I guess I don't notice when it's super dry.
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Why would u want wet air
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Meh. I like 35-40% RH. I'm a snot factory much drier than that.
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Why would u want wet air
It's literally insane
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i obviously don't want wet air. i just don't want dry air either.
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I need to put lotion on my hands because they are cracking because the air is dry af
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Known big HVAC supporter but....
As noted earlier, I love my whole house humidifier.
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Known big HVAC supporter but....
As noted earlier, I love my whole house humidifier.
It's truly the best
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A bit OT, but what geothermal system should I purchase for my pad to replace an existing, old geothermal system?
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I'd use Waterfurnace or Comfort Aire..
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great hack
i bought all the stuff to do this in my house but then hid it all in a corner of the attic and moved
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response to the december thing
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I'd use Waterfurnace or Comfort Aire..
Getting pricing on a Waterfurnace 5 series unit. We already have an open loop unit so hopefully that helps a bit on the cost.
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Fantastic system.
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Thinking this is what I am going to go with in a month or two:
Model Number: NDV064A111NTR0CA
Which includes the following items:
1. 60,000 Btuhs capacity ( 5 tons)
2. Factory installed Hot Water Generator
3. Full Variable Speed ECM Blower motor
4. Cupronickel water coil option
5. Right hand return
6. Aurora Performance Control option package
7. Intellistart compressor soft start up option
8. 10 year parts and 10 year labor warranty
9. 15 Kw internal auxiliary heater package
10 TPCC32U01 Communicating Programmable Color Touchscreen Thermostat with full energy and performance monitoring
11 High Efficiency Air Filtration
Also going to have them re-install the whole house humidifier that is currently in place. They also have an option to install a second tank that holds the water from the hot water generator and hook it up to our current water tank which would give us 100 gallons of capacity (probably going to do this as well).
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Nice setup.
What size is being removed?
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It's an old Florida Heat Pump that was installed when the house was built around 93. I'm not sure of the size, but my guy said the FHPs back in the day were usually "in between" capacities. I'm guessing it was just enough for the size of house at the time, but really needed to jump to the next model up.
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I'd be data logging to see how often that beautiful machine actually makes it to full capacity. Bet it does most days below 50%.
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Installation was completed a couple days ago. I am very curious to compare monthly energy costs to see if the salesman was full of crap regarding efficiency.
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Installation was completed a couple days ago. I am very curious to compare monthly energy costs to see if the salesman was full of crap regarding efficiency.
Monthly will have a lot of noise (weather variation, different billing period length, variable space loads) but that unit should be a lot more efficient and will save you $$$.
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just thought i'd pop in and let you clowns know that this thread doesn't suck any less than the last time i read it. keep up the great work, 'gloids