did anybody watch the NFL in 1985? (serious question)
wacky, dax is not attacking the royals or the midwest, just MLB in general.He pretty much attacks anything that competes with college sports. Very simple minded.
1985: 5 teams over 30k average attendance, 2 teams under 10k
2014: 15 teams over 30k average attendance, only 2 under 20k
I addressed attendance already. We're a country of nearly 320 million people and people still enjoy the novelty of going to the ball park, but on a national stage the TV ratings tell the story. This is the "Fall Classic" and the ratings have plummeted over time, now so low that regular season NFL games in prime time double the WS ratings.
WC, not true.
CF3 could you also calculate the number of day games played in 1961 and also discuss the relative population of the country and the various respective MLB cities as compared to today. Thanks bro.
Dax, FSD and KSUW are caricatures and you people need to stop taking what they post seriously.
denied - some great gems come out of these and we don't have beems around to bring it out of him.Dax, FSD and KSUW are caricatures and you people need to stop taking what they post seriously.
I should stop arguing with Dax. It is fruitless.
Are there as many kids playing baseball today (as a %) compared to 30 years ago? Is it "losing its luster" in states that experience cold weather?
I heard both the outgoing and previous MLB commish's in ESPN Radio in recent weeks and while they did discuss the regional strength of baseball they both extolled the need to gain traction in urban communities where baseball is waning dramatically . . . with noted exceptions like this years LLWS U.S. champion.
...Game 2 of the World Series ... posted a 7.9/14 household rating/share with 12.9 million viewers on FOX. The game was +8% in rating and +6% in audience over Game 1 on Tuesday (7.3, 12.2 million). The 8% game-to-game improvement is the biggest percentage increase from Game 1 to Game 2 in eight years. That propelled FOX to easily win the night in primetime among Households and to win the night on Adults 18-49 for the second consecutive night.
Last year’s World Series Game 2 that aired on a Thursday featured the Boston Red Sox and St. Louis Cardinals on FOX scored an 8.3/14 national household rating/share and averaged 13.4 million viewers
Game 2 of the 2014 World Series currently ranks as FOX’s highest-rated and most-watched prime-time broadcast this season, and the network’s highest-rated, most-watched prime-time program since an edition of AMERICAN IDOL in February. On a live program basis, the World Series is tracking to rank No. 3 among all broadcast entertainment programs.
Those Chicago kids were juicing this year at the LLWS. Don't tell me America doesn't care anymore.Are there as many kids playing baseball today (as a %) compared to 30 years ago? Is it "losing its luster" in states that experience cold weather?
I heard both the outgoing and previous MLB commish's in ESPN Radio in recent weeks and while they did discuss the regional strength of baseball they both extolled the need to gain traction in urban communities where baseball is waning dramatically . . . with noted exceptions like this years LLWS U.S. champion.
1985: 5 teams over 30k average attendance, 2 teams under 10kI'm not calling for the "death spiral" or anything but it's silly to compare attendance numbers from 30 years apart because a lot of babies have been born since.
2014: 15 teams over 30k average attendance, only 2 under 20k
DEATH SPIRAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :runaway:
I'm starting to think Dax is just kind of a dumbass. Sad, really.yeah, if it doesnt have to do with our expansions/electronic upgrades i just skim past his posts. its either board of regents crap or ku is hurting stuff and im tired on those subjects
what were the other three?I'm starting to think Dax is just kind of a dumbass. Sad, really.yeah, if it doesnt have to do with our expansions/electronic upgrades i just skim past his posts. its either board of regents crap or ku is hurting stuff and im tired on those subjects
Congrats slim, of your nearly 6500 posts, that's about the 4th one I've actually read.
well thats good, sorry if i came off like a douche its not the posting its the subjects. the cats are in first and the royals are in the world series, just dont bother to mess that stuff too much right now. great for combo season thowhat were the other three?I'm starting to think Dax is just kind of a dumbass. Sad, really.yeah, if it doesnt have to do with our expansions/electronic upgrades i just skim past his posts. its either board of regents crap or ku is hurting stuff and im tired on those subjects
Congrats slim, of your nearly 6500 posts, that's about the 4th one I've actually read.
I don't remember exactly, but the were pretty good. :thumbs:
I really don't think its arguable that baseball has fallen nationally. It's probably the 4th or 5th most popular sport option depending on the market. The NFL, college football, college basketball, and sometimes the NBA rank higher. That doesn't mean baseball is in trouble, it just means it's not the top dog it was 10-20 years ago.
Also, anytime it's a series for the championship it's not going to be great numbers anymore. Games 1-3 of a seven game series have little intrigue to the casual fan because no matter what there's still another game. Part of the reason the Super Bowl is such a big event is that there's no second chance, no reset button basically.
The fact this series is between the Royals and Giants also hurts the numbers. The Royals are a great story and much of the country is cheering for them, but that's not enough to get casual viewers, especially East Coasters, to tune in. I'd be willing to bet that before the playoffs, your average fan could only name a handful of players from both teams combined.
I'd be willing to bet that before the playoffs, your average fan could only name a handful of players from both teams combined.
It might be because ESPN isn't carrying the WS.
It might be because ESPN isn't carrying the WS.
Ya think?
Yet, on almost any other day when the MLB was playing WC, DS, AL/NLCS or WS games the scores etc. etc. had a prominent place on the front page of ESPN.com. Yet on the day the NFL is simply playing regular season games, of which none were carried by ESPN yesterday. ESPN.com's front page didn't even recognize that a WS game was even being played, you had to click on the MLB link. I'm pretty sure ESPN radio carried the WS games last night and there wasn't even a link to ESPN radio coverage like their normally is.
I've already mentioned that luke.
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I read this the other day, found it very interesting:live sports are the only time anyone under 60 watches a commercial other than the folks that like Dancing with Stars, the Voice, etc.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/maurybrown/2014/08/05/mlb-telecasts-on-regional-sports-networks-dominate-prime-time-television/
| TEAM AVG. NO. OF HHs New York Knicks 163,000 Yankees 251,000 Mets 143,000 Los Angeles Lakers 122,000 Dodgers TWC only Angels 96,000 Miami Heat 114,000 Marlins 28,000 Chicago Bulls 105,000 Cubs 52,000 White Sox 49,000 Golden State Warriors 81,000 Giants 122,000 As 38,000 |
Carrington Harrison?@cdotharrison·10 mins10 minutes ago
Last night's Royals game got a 58.7 rating in KC. This year's Super Bowl got a 58.1 rating in KC.
QuoteCarrington Harrison?@cdotharrison·10 mins10 minutes ago
Last night's Royals game got a 58.7 rating in KC. This year's Super Bowl got a 58.1 rating in KC.
:eek:
MLB Public Relations @MLB_PR
52 million people watched all or part of #WorldSeries #Game7. 23.9 million avg viewers makes it 2nd most-watched MLB game in 10 years.
MLB Public Relations @MLB_PR
52 million people watched all or part of #WorldSeries #Game7. 23.9 million avg viewers makes it 2nd most-watched MLB game in 10 years.
#1 Game 7 of ALCS between NY and Boston??
MLB Public Relations @MLB_PR
52 million people watched all or part of #WorldSeries #Game7. 23.9 million avg viewers makes it 2nd most-watched MLB game in 10 years.
#1 Game 7 of ALCS between NY and Boston??
i would imagine 2004 does not fall within their "10 years" window, because i think all 7 games of that series were probably the most watched games OAT
Austin Karp @AustinKarp
Heading into Super Bowl, Harris Poll data shows NFL still king among U.S. adults, but gap with MLB closest since 2010 (16 percentage points)
Mets aren't even the biggest draw in their own city :lol:
http://www.royalsreview.com/2015/11/5/9675778/royals-mets-gets-highest-world-series-tv-ratings-in-six-years (http://www.royalsreview.com/2015/11/5/9675778/royals-mets-gets-highest-world-series-tv-ratings-in-six-years)80% of all televisions turned on in the metro area were tuned in to watch the Royals.
1 in 5 KC residents is a loser.http://www.royalsreview.com/2015/11/5/9675778/royals-mets-gets-highest-world-series-tv-ratings-in-six-years (http://www.royalsreview.com/2015/11/5/9675778/royals-mets-gets-highest-world-series-tv-ratings-in-six-years)80% of all televisions turned on in the metro area were tuned in to watch the Royals.
that is so rough ridin' fantastic
1 in 5 KC residents is a loser.http://www.royalsreview.com/2015/11/5/9675778/royals-mets-gets-highest-world-series-tv-ratings-in-six-years (http://www.royalsreview.com/2015/11/5/9675778/royals-mets-gets-highest-world-series-tv-ratings-in-six-years)80% of all televisions turned on in the metro area were tuned in to watch the Royals.
that is so rough ridin' fantastic
1 in 5 KC residents is a loser.http://www.royalsreview.com/2015/11/5/9675778/royals-mets-gets-highest-world-series-tv-ratings-in-six-years (http://www.royalsreview.com/2015/11/5/9675778/royals-mets-gets-highest-world-series-tv-ratings-in-six-years)80% of all televisions turned on in the metro area were tuned in to watch the Royals.
that is so rough ridin' fantastic
1 in 5 residents were at P&L/Westport/etc.
it means 80% of the TVs turned on were watching the WS, not 80% of TVs total. OF people watching TV, 4 out of 5 were watching the WS
it means 80% of the TVs turned on were watching the WS, not 80% of TVs total. OF people watching TV, 4 out of 5 were watching the WS
Is it possible that 90% of the TVs were turned to another channel for 22% of the time (commercials)?
http://entertainment.howstuffworks.com/question433.htm
http://entertainment.howstuffworks.com/question433.htm
That didn't explain anything about how it accounts for turning the channel in the middle of a show.
1 in 5 KC residents is a loser.http://www.royalsreview.com/2015/11/5/9675778/royals-mets-gets-highest-world-series-tv-ratings-in-six-years (http://www.royalsreview.com/2015/11/5/9675778/royals-mets-gets-highest-world-series-tv-ratings-in-six-years)80% of all televisions turned on in the metro area were tuned in to watch the Royals.
that is so rough ridin' fantastic
1 in 5 residents were at P&L/Westport/etc.
but left their TV's on, tuned in to something else?? :confused:
http://entertainment.howstuffworks.com/question433.htm
That didn't explain anything about how it accounts for turning the channel in the middle of a show.
you have to spend a certain amount of time on the same channel for it to receive credit. on radio it's like 10 or 15 minutes. probably similar for tv. ratings are still really weirdly calculated
http://entertainment.howstuffworks.com/question433.htm
That didn't explain anything about how it accounts for turning the channel in the middle of a show.
you have to spend a certain amount of time on the same channel for it to receive credit. on radio it's like 10 or 15 minutes. probably similar for tv. ratings are still really weirdly calculated
So if you change channels every 9 minutes it would think you are not watching TV at all?
we recently had ours expirehttp://entertainment.howstuffworks.com/question433.htm
That didn't explain anything about how it accounts for turning the channel in the middle of a show.
you have to spend a certain amount of time on the same channel for it to receive credit. on radio it's like 10 or 15 minutes. probably similar for tv. ratings are still really weirdly calculated
So if you change channels every 9 minutes it would think you are not watching TV at all?
Unless you are one of the 5000 people Nielsen has contacted and set meters up with, nobody is paying attention to your tv.
http://entertainment.howstuffworks.com/question433.htm
That didn't explain anything about how it accounts for turning the channel in the middle of a show.
you have to spend a certain amount of time on the same channel for it to receive credit. on radio it's like 10 or 15 minutes. probably similar for tv. ratings are still really weirdly calculated
So if you change channels every 9 minutes it would think you are not watching TV at all?
Unless you are one of the 5000 people Nielsen has contacted and set meters up with, nobody is paying attention to your tv.
One time in the early 2000's I got to be a "Nielsen household" and log my TV viewing for a week. Yes I said log, as in write it down on a sheet they provided. :lol: The sheet was broken down into 15 minute increments IIRC. They paid me $10 straight cash to do it.more proof the big money is in TV, I only got $8 do to a radio one in 2004ish
One time in the early 2000's I got to be a "Nielsen household" and log my TV viewing for a week. Yes I said log, as in write it down on a sheet they provided. :lol: The sheet was broken down into 15 minute increments IIRC. They paid me $10 straight cash to do it.