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Title: Obama appeals to his base
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on October 21, 2014, 04:46:19 PM
Obama appeals to his base. http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2014/10/20/cousin-pookie-is-back-and-yes-he-is-still-sitting-on-the-couch/ (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2014/10/20/cousin-pookie-is-back-and-yes-he-is-still-sitting-on-the-couch/)

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Cousin Pookie is back, y'all.  Remember him?  Last we checked, he was on somebody's couch.  And Pookie  was not thinking about voting because that's not what Pookie does. Pookie basically does Pookie.
 
Well, President Obama, desperate to get out the black vote, has revived the folk hero that is Cousin Pookie once again. Here's Obama at a rally on the South Side of Chicago for Gov. Pat Quinn on Sunday night:
 
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"You've got to grab your friends, you’ve got to grab your co-workers, you know, don’t just get the folks who you know are gonna vote, you’ve got to find Cousin Pookie. He’s sitting on the couch right now watching football, hasn't voted in the last five elections, you’ve got to grab him, and tell him to go vote.”

Obama said virtually the same thing at a rally Sunday for Maryland Lt. Gov. Anthony Brown, who is running for governor.
 
Yes, we are grateful that Obama name-dropped Cousin Pookie, because it means that we can recall all things Obama and Cousin Pookie.  They make such a good pair that the urban dictionary cites Obama's reference to Pookie under the definition of "Pookie n nem": "The proverbial ominous 'hood' characters and or family member that every person with a connection to the ghetto knows."
 
Prior to Obama's invocation of Cousin Pookie, the most famous version of this stock character was Chris Rock's crack-addicted version in the classic movie "New Jack City" (1991).

That's what Obama thinks of his base, and sadly, he's probably right. The lazy, the uninformed, the dead, just vote Dem! What's next? Maybe dance it up on Ellen's show? An MTV appearance?
Title: Re: Obama appeals to his base
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on October 21, 2014, 04:52:04 PM
And speaking of Obama accidentally being honest, he has just delivered another delightful round of political ads for the GOP as we near the final stretch of the midterms.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2014/10/20/obama-giftwraps-another-sound-bite-for-republicans/ (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2014/10/20/obama-giftwraps-another-sound-bite-for-republicans/)

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A couple weeks ago, President Obama declared that, while he wasn't on the Nov. 4 ballot, his policies were. And just about every GOP candidate in a red or swing state soon launched an ad using that comment to tie his or her Democratic opponent to Obama.
 
Well, Obama appears to have just handed Republicans some more ammunition.
 
In an interview with Rev. Al Sharpton on Monday, Obama defended his support for candidates in top races who haven't welcomed Obama to campaign with them.
 
"The bottom line is, though, these are are all folks who vote with me; they have supported my agenda in Congress," Obama said.
 
He continued: "So this isn't about my feelings being hurt. These are folks who are strong allies and supporters of me. I tell them -- I said, you do what you need to do to win. I will be responsible for making sure that our voters turn out."

I'd expect the GOP ads within the next 24-48 hours.
Title: Re: Obama appeals to his base
Post by: star seed 7 on October 21, 2014, 06:27:02 PM
Your life is very sad
Title: Re: Obama appeals to his base
Post by: Spracne on October 21, 2014, 07:03:49 PM
I would say history has shown that BO is very effective at getting folks to rock the vote. Not sure what your problem is? You hate all politicians for politicking, or just those you disagree with?
Title: Re: Obama appeals to his base
Post by: star seed 7 on October 21, 2014, 07:06:43 PM
I heard sean hannity urging people to vote today, what a despicable person. Ugh, rare moment of honesty I guess
Title: Re: Obama appeals to his base
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on October 21, 2014, 10:17:10 PM
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FyL8jfl0.gif&hash=9e0c3a9ef77a436873c8c387fcefaca0d70b5c34)

OK, let's go vote Pookie!
Title: Re: Obama appeals to his base
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on October 21, 2014, 10:33:08 PM
Why is it, do you think, that Republicans enjoy such a turnout advantage during midterm elections?
Title: Re: Obama appeals to his base
Post by: Benja on October 22, 2014, 11:56:11 AM
Midterm elections are extremely boring.
Title: Re: Obama appeals to his base
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 22, 2014, 11:58:34 AM
Why is it, do you think, that Republicans enjoy such a turnout advantage during midterm elections?

The only politician the unwashed masses can name is the POTUS.
Title: Re: Obama appeals to his base
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on October 22, 2014, 12:43:41 PM
Midterm elections are extremely boring.

people still talk about the 2010 midterms everyday. IT'S THE REPUBLICAN DO NOTHING TEA PARTY CONGRESS' FAULT!!!!!!!1!
Title: Re: Obama appeals to his base
Post by: Cartierfor3 on October 22, 2014, 12:48:33 PM
voting blows. one person's vote doesn't make a difference
Title: Re: Obama appeals to his base
Post by: star seed 7 on October 22, 2014, 12:52:21 PM
voting blows. one person's vote doesn't make a difference

Uh oh
Title: Re: Obama appeals to his base
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on October 22, 2014, 12:53:17 PM
for the life of me, i can't wrap my head around how boring your life would have to be to start following politics and care about this stuff.  :zzz:
Title: Re: Obama appeals to his base
Post by: Tobias on October 22, 2014, 01:03:30 PM
i use the time i could be spending on politics out making money to support my lovely wife and kids :th_twocents:
Title: Re: Obama appeals to his base
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on October 22, 2014, 01:16:25 PM
Why is it, do you think, that Republicans enjoy such a turnout advantage during midterm elections?

The only politician the unwashed masses can name is the POTUS.

Yup. The Democrat base consists much more heavily of people who are stupid and/or lazy. The Dem politicians don't like to admit this, but it's funny when they do in a roundabout way.
Title: Re: Obama appeals to his base
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 22, 2014, 01:20:38 PM
I follow politics mostly for the entertainment value.
Title: Re: Obama appeals to his base
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on October 22, 2014, 01:58:27 PM
i use the time i could be spending on politics out making money to support my lovely wife and kids :th_twocents:

The more money I make the more interested I become.
Title: Re: Obama appeals to his base
Post by: Benja on October 22, 2014, 02:24:12 PM
i use the time i could be spending on politics out making money to support my lovely wife and kids :th_twocents:

The more money I make the more interested I become.

Trust me, you're not making enough to actually have a good reason to care.
Title: Re: Obama appeals to his base
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on October 22, 2014, 03:14:13 PM
i use the time i could be spending on politics out making money to support my lovely wife and kids :th_twocents:

The more money I make the more interested I become.

Trust me, you're not making enough to actually have a good reason to care.

I doubt you've ever written a check to the IRS.
Title: Re: Obama appeals to his base
Post by: Benja on October 22, 2014, 03:17:29 PM
i use the time i could be spending on politics out making money to support my lovely wife and kids :th_twocents:

The more money I make the more interested I become.

Trust me, you're not making enough to actually have a good reason to care.

I doubt you've ever written a check to the IRS.

That was a weird response.
Title: Re: Obama appeals to his base
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on October 22, 2014, 03:24:25 PM
i use the time i could be spending on politics out making money to support my lovely wife and kids :th_twocents:

The more money I make the more interested I become.

Trust me, you're not making enough to actually have a good reason to care.

I doubt you've ever written a check to the IRS.

That was a weird response.

High income earners and business owners understand.
Title: Re: Obama appeals to his base
Post by: Tobias on October 22, 2014, 03:25:38 PM
 :woot:
Title: Re: Obama appeals to his base
Post by: Benja on October 22, 2014, 03:25:42 PM
i use the time i could be spending on politics out making money to support my lovely wife and kids :th_twocents:

The more money I make the more interested I become.

Trust me, you're not making enough to actually have a good reason to care.

I doubt you've ever written a check to the IRS.

That was a weird response.

High income earners and business owners understand.

Oh ok. Good job Dougie.
Title: Re: Obama appeals to his base
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on October 22, 2014, 03:33:08 PM
i use the time i could be spending on politics out making money to support my lovely wife and kids :th_twocents:

The more money I make the more interested I become.

Trust me, you're not making enough to actually have a good reason to care.

I doubt you've ever written a check to the IRS.

That was a weird response.

High income earners and business owners understand.

Oh ok. Good job Dougie.

Let us know how much you get back this coming year (if you're required to file). Maybe a new xbox is in your future.  :Woot:
Title: Re: Obama appeals to his base
Post by: Benja on October 22, 2014, 03:40:02 PM
i use the time i could be spending on politics out making money to support my lovely wife and kids :th_twocents:

The more money I make the more interested I become.

Trust me, you're not making enough to actually have a good reason to care.

I doubt you've ever written a check to the IRS.

That was a weird response.

High income earners and business owners understand.

Oh ok. Good job Dougie.

Let us know how much you get back this coming year (if you're required to file). Maybe a new xbox is in your future.  :Woot:

I actually am buying a new Xbox tho.
Title: Re: Obama appeals to his base
Post by: Dugout DickStone on October 22, 2014, 04:09:57 PM
i use the time i could be spending on politics out making money to support my lovely wife and kids :th_twocents:

The more money I make the more interested I become.

Trust me, you're not making enough to actually have a good reason to care.

I doubt you've ever written a check to the IRS.

That was a weird response.

High income earners and business owners understand.

Congrats on paying quarterly Mr. Rockefeller
Title: Re: Obama appeals to his base
Post by: Benja on October 22, 2014, 04:23:36 PM
Sucks to know no matter how far I go in life, I'll never have that teach me how to dougie money. Bet the one percent has better parties.
Title: Re: Obama appeals to his base
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 22, 2014, 04:26:20 PM
Sucks to know no matter how far I go in life, I'll never have that teach me how to dougie money. Bet the one percent has better parties.

No Xbox, though. Obama gives their Xboxes to us instead.
Title: Re: Obama appeals to his base
Post by: Benja on October 22, 2014, 04:29:12 PM
Sucks to know no matter how far I go in life, I'll never have that teach me how to dougie money. Bet the one percent has better parties.

No Xbox, though. Obama gives their Xboxes to us instead.

eff yes
Title: Re: Obama appeals to his base
Post by: Tobias on October 22, 2014, 04:30:50 PM
i made a whole bunch of socks to vote for obama last time and i've got like 10 xboxes now
Title: Re: Obama appeals to his base
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 22, 2014, 04:32:11 PM
i made a whole bunch of socks to vote for obama last time and i've got like 10 xboxes now

That won't work now that that son of a bitch Kris Kobach is requiring ID. He must be a hardcore gamer or something.
Title: Re: Obama appeals to his base
Post by: Benja on October 22, 2014, 04:36:15 PM
i made a whole bunch of socks to vote for obama last time and i've got like 10 xboxes now

That's great. You can pawn nine for drugs, buy Xbox live with your welfare, and just ball out for a month.
Title: Re: Obama appeals to his base
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 22, 2014, 04:38:28 PM
Well, if I were going to scam the system like that, I would give one of my Obamaboxes to Cousin Pookie. I mean, sure, he could just get off his lazy ass and go vote for one of his own, but I'm going to be at the ballot anyway and that's what cousins are for.
Title: Re: Obama appeals to his base
Post by: Spracne on October 22, 2014, 04:40:05 PM
I don't think you guys are treating this situation with the gravity it demands.  :dubious:
Title: Re: Obama appeals to his base
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on October 22, 2014, 04:49:12 PM
i use the time i could be spending on politics out making money to support my lovely wife and kids :th_twocents:

The more money I make the more interested I become.

Trust me, you're not making enough to actually have a good reason to care.

I doubt you've ever written a check to the IRS.

That was a weird response.

High income earners and business owners understand.

Congrats on paying quarterly Mr. Rockefeller

It's better than paying all at once.
Title: Re: Obama appeals to his base
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on October 23, 2014, 12:18:27 PM
K-S-U is BITB at extracting butthurt, ignorance and hypocrisy from leftist pit posters.  They fall for it every time, it's uncann6.
Title: Re: Obama appeals to his base
Post by: Benja on October 23, 2014, 01:45:31 PM
K-S-U is BITB at extracting butthurt, ignorance and hypocrisy from leftist pit posters.  They fall for it every time, it's uncann6.

I agree that k-s-u is great
Title: Re: Obama appeals to his base
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on October 23, 2014, 03:26:16 PM
It's almost like Obama is intentionally sabotaging the midterms, but why? Here's his latest attack ad fodder, this time dished up for David Perdue in Georgia...

http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/221690-obama-if-nunn-wins-dems-keep-senate (http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/221690-obama-if-nunn-wins-dems-keep-senate)

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President Obama is urging voters to help Georgia Senate candidate Michelle Nunn defeat Republican David Purdue, telling a radio station Thursday that Democratic control of the Senate depends on her victory.

“If Michelle Nunn wins, that means that Democrats keep control of the Senate,” Obama told Atlanta radio station V-103. “And that means that we can keep on doing some good work. So, it is critically important to make sure that folks vote.”

Got that Georgia? A vote for Nunn is a vote for a Democrat Senate.

Nunn may very well eak out a win, but she's not going to top 50%, which means a January runoff she'll almost certainly lose once the libertarian candidate is off the ballot.
Title: Re: Obama appeals to his base
Post by: ChiComCat on October 23, 2014, 04:21:32 PM
Why is it, do you think, that Republicans enjoy such a turnout advantage during midterm elections?

Midterms largely go against the incumbent president, regardless of party.  When one party gets to smear the other relentlessly and can hindsight what they would've done, they have a nice advantage.
Title: Re: Obama appeals to his base
Post by: star seed 7 on October 23, 2014, 05:00:19 PM
Ksuw might be one of the biggest morons in the Kstate fanbase. Def top 5 for biggest piece of crap human in the fanbase
Title: Re: Obama appeals to his base
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on October 23, 2014, 08:31:58 PM
Ksuw might be one of the biggest morons in the Kstate fanbase. Def top 5 for biggest piece of crap human in the fanbase

The butthurt is seeping out of the computer screen
Title: Re: Obama appeals to his base
Post by: renocat on October 23, 2014, 10:24:00 PM
The most intelligent voters vote at mid-term.  This accounts for the high Republican turnout.
Title: Re: Obama appeals to his base
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on October 29, 2014, 02:10:50 PM
The Hill: Democrats Pinning Hopes on Black Turnout (http://thehill.com/homenews/news/222157-party-pins-hopes-on-black-vote)

but... Youtube: Black Activists Denounce Democrats (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUSRZo1BE5o)

and... Black voters "sneaking" over to GOP (http://www.phillytrib.com/news/article_d4f4116d-08fb-5bc2-b688-3bbb525b8ac9.html)

Title: Re: Obama appeals to his base
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on October 30, 2014, 09:29:22 AM
Democrats simply have no shame. There is no depth to which they won't sink to enflame racial tensions as long as it drives turnout of "their" demographic. http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/30/us/politics/from-democrats-election-focus-on-racial-scars.html?_r=0 (http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/30/us/politics/from-democrats-election-focus-on-racial-scars.html?_r=0)

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In the final days before the election, Democrats in the closest Senate races across the South are turning to racially charged messages — invoking Trayvon Martin’s death, the unrest in Ferguson, Mo., and Jim Crow-era segregation — to jolt African-Americans into voting and stop a Republican takeover in Washington.

The images and words they are using are striking for how overtly they play on fears of intimidation and repression. And their source is surprising. The effort is being led by national Democrats and their state party organizations — not, in most instances, by the shadowy and often untraceable political action committees that typically employ such provocative messages.

In North Carolina, the “super PAC” started by Senator Harry Reid of Nevada, the majority leader, ran an ad on black radio that accused the Republican candidate, Thom Tillis, of leading an effort to pass the kind of gun law that “caused the shooting death of Trayvon Martin.”

In Georgia, Democrats are circulating a flier warning that voting is the only way “to prevent another Ferguson.” It shows two black children holding cardboard signs that say “Don’t shoot.”

The tactics being employed by Democrats in North Carolina as the black turnout there could decide which party controls the Senate.

The messages are coursing through the campaigns like a riptide, powerful and under the surface, largely avoiding television and out of view of white voters. That has led Republicans to accuse Democrats of turning to race-baiting in a desperate bid to win at the polls next Tuesday.

“They have been playing on this nerve in the black community that if you even so much as look at a Republican, churches will start to burn, your civil rights will be taken away and young black men like Trayvon Martin will die,” said Michael Steele, a former chairman of the Republican Party. “The reality of it is, the Democrats realize that their most loyal constituency is not as loyal as they once were.”

Democrats say Republicans need to own their record of passing laws hostile to African-American interests on issues like voting rights. The decision to use such overt appeals reflects just how much they are relying on black voters in the states in the old Confederacy, where key Senate races could decide which party controls the chamber.

Democrats are defending vulnerable incumbents in Arkansas, Louisiana and North Carolina. And if they lose more than one of those races without picking up an open seat in Georgia, their odds of holding on to the majority will shrink considerably.

One way to hang on is to increase the share of the black vote that typically turns out in a midterm election. To do so, Democrats are seizing on racial mistrust and unease, the same complicated emotions often used against them in the South.

The attacks have been most aggressive in North Carolina, where Democrats have said they need to raise the share of the electorate that is African-American to 21 percent, from 19 percent in the last midterm election in 2010, to prevail over Republicans, who control both chambers of the state legislature and the governor’s mansion.

The group started by Mr. Reid, Senate Majority PAC, ran the ad on black radio that Republicans said all but accused Mr. Tillis, the Republican speaker of the State House, of killing Mr. Martin, an unarmed black teenager who was fatally shot in Florida in 2012. In the ad, the announcer reads through a list of policies Mr. Tillis supported that blacks are likely to find offensive, like curtailing early voting in the state. And then it turns more ominous.

“Tillis even led the effort to pass the type of ‘Stand Your Ground’ laws that caused the shooting death of Trayvon Martin,” the announcer says. The music playing in the background abruptly stops.


Republicans have slammed the ad as race-baiting. “Have you heard this race-hustling Kay Hagan ad paid for by Harry Reid’s super PAC?” a new radio ad paid for by a conservative group asks, referring to the Democratic incumbent. “Probably not. Because they’re not running it on this station.”

Though Mr. Tillis was the speaker of the State Assembly at the time the law passed, he was not an ardent supporter of it. One local gun-rights group criticized him for not being supportive enough at the time.

A spokesman for Senate Majority PAC, Ty Matsdorf, defended the message. “Our ad focuses on an issue that was the subject of national attention and debate and is important to voters across the spectrum in North Carolina,” he said.

At a campaign rally over the weekend for Senator Hagan, one of her supporters, Alma Adams, who is in the State Legislature, said, “We need to send Uncle Thom — Tillis, that is — home.”

Ms. Hagan’s campaign has often referred to remarks in which Mr. Tillis appeared to equate reparations for slavery with social welfare programs. Governments created such public assistance programs, he said in 2007, based in part on the “belief that we should provide additional reparations” to those whose ancestors were enslaved.

In addition, at a black church in Fayetteville, leaflets with a grainy image of a lynching have appeared, warning voters that if Ms. Hagan loses, President Obama will be impeached.

Similar messages are reaching black voters in Arkansas, where Senator Mark Pryor, a second-term Democrat, is up for re-election, and Georgia, where the retirement of Senator Saxby Chambliss, a Republican, has given Democrats a shot at the seat.

In Arkansas, voters are opening mailboxes to find leaflets with images of the Ferguson protests and the words: “Enough! Republicans are targeting our kids, silencing our voices and even trying to impeach our president.” The group distributing them is Color of Change, a grass-roots civil rights organization.

In Georgia, the state Democratic Party is mixing themes of racial discrimination with appeals to rally behind the only black man elected president. “It’s up to us to vote to protect the legacy of the first African-American president,” one flier reads.

Another invokes Ferguson. “If you want to prevent another Ferguson in their future,” the leaflet says over a picture of two young black children, “vote. It’s up to you to make change happen.”

For many African-Americans, feelings of persecution — from voter ID laws, aggressive police forces and a host of other social problems — are hard to overstate. And they see no hyperbole in the attacks.

“It’s not race-baiting; it’s actually happening,” said Jaymes Powell Jr., an official in the North Carolina Democratic Party’s African-American Caucus. “I can’t catch a fish unless there’s a worm on the hook.”

All right, so let's have this "dialogue about race" the libtards are always clammoring for. Doesn't this all seem incredibly racist? Doesn't this sort of race-baiting actually harm racial relations?
Title: Re: Obama appeals to his base
Post by: michigancat on October 30, 2014, 11:13:14 AM
The "Uncle Thom" thing was pretty bad, (both in terms of taste and misuse of the term), as is the lynching leaflet in Fayetteville, but overall the rest is pretty reasonable.
Title: Re: Obama appeals to his base
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on October 30, 2014, 12:21:31 PM
The "Uncle Thom" thing was pretty bad, (both in terms of taste and misuse of the term), as is the lynching leaflet in Fayetteville, but overall the rest is pretty reasonable.

I know this is a troll, but . . .

The Fayetteville referred to is in North Carolina, not Arkansas. They are completely separate racist leaflets.
Title: Re: Obama appeals to his base
Post by: star seed 7 on October 30, 2014, 12:32:21 PM
Well this is embarrassing for fsd
Title: Re: Obama appeals to his base
Post by: Cartierfor3 on October 30, 2014, 12:59:18 PM
Basically the dems version of "If you vote for Obama they will take you guns away" fear mongering.

Both parties do this nonsense guys.
Title: Re: Obama appeals to his base
Post by: michigancat on October 30, 2014, 01:01:45 PM
Basically the dems version of "If you vote for Obama they will take you guns away" fear mongering.

Both parties do this nonsense guys.

A major difference is that the government has never really taken guns away but we have had government authorized slavery, disenfranchisement, racism in police departments, etc.
Title: Re: Obama appeals to his base
Post by: Cartierfor3 on October 30, 2014, 01:04:16 PM
Basically the dems version of "If you vote for Obama they will take you guns away" fear mongering.

Both parties do this nonsense guys.

A major difference is that the government has never really taken guns away but we have had government authorized slavery, disenfranchisement, racism in police departments, etc.

returning to jim crow and slavery are about as likely as a gun round up IMO. its a fair point that those are historical truths tho
Title: Re: Obama appeals to his base
Post by: michigancat on October 30, 2014, 01:12:56 PM
Basically the dems version of "If you vote for Obama they will take you guns away" fear mongering.

Both parties do this nonsense guys.

A major difference is that the government has never really taken guns away but we have had government authorized slavery, disenfranchisement, racism in police departments, etc.

returning to jim crow and slavery are about as likely as a gun round up IMO. its a fair point that those are historical truths tho

None of those things mentioned in the article (except the two things I mentioned) implied a return to Jim Crow or should considered crazy race-baiting. I mean the article and K-S-U did, but did you actually look at the fliers?

http://freebeacon.com/blog/georgia-dem-mailer-warns-obamas-presidency-is-on-the-line/

http://talkbusiness.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/ColorofChangeMail.pdf


And the flier with the lynching was called "disgusting" by the candidate it was "supporting":

http://www.wncn.com/story/26838336/nc-campaign-flier-has-background-lynching-photo
Title: Re: Obama appeals to his base
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on October 30, 2014, 01:30:00 PM
Basically the dems version of "If you vote for Obama they will take you guns away" fear mongering.

Both parties do this nonsense guys.

A major difference is that the government has never really taken guns away but we have had government authorized slavery, disenfranchisement, racism in police departments, etc.

Even assuming that flyers are telling people "Obama will take your guns away" - wouldn't you agree there is a difference between factually inaccurate fear mongering and racist fear mongering? I think that racist element is a lot worse.

Second, liberals have a long history of advocating for and advancing gun control legislation that makes it harder to lawfully purchase and own guns. Some cities, such as D.C. and Chicago, actually attempted to ban all lawful ownership of most guns. Therefore - putting aside where you come down on gun control - it is perfectly appropriate and accurate for gun rights groups to voice concerns that liberal candidates will threaten Second Amendment rights. If they go so far as to threaten that a liberal candidate wants to "take all your guns away" that is, at worst, an exaggeration.
Title: Re: Obama appeals to his base
Post by: michigancat on October 30, 2014, 01:42:15 PM
Basically the dems version of "If you vote for Obama they will take you guns away" fear mongering.

Both parties do this nonsense guys.

A major difference is that the government has never really taken guns away but we have had government authorized slavery, disenfranchisement, racism in police departments, etc.

Even assuming that flyers are telling people "Obama will take your guns away" - wouldn't you agree there is a difference between factually inaccurate fear mongering and racist fear mongering? I think that racist element is a lot worse.

Other than lynching flier (which was absurd), what was the "racist fear mongering"?
Title: Re: Obama appeals to his base
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on October 30, 2014, 01:43:50 PM
Basically the dems version of "If you vote for Obama they will take you guns away" fear mongering.

Both parties do this nonsense guys.

A major difference is that the government has never really taken guns away but we have had government authorized slavery, disenfranchisement, racism in police departments, etc.

Even assuming that flyers are telling people "Obama will take your guns away" - wouldn't you agree there is a difference between factually inaccurate fear mongering and racist fear mongering? I think that racist element is a lot worse.

Other than lynching flier (which was absurd), what was the "racist fear mongering"?

Uncle Thom.

Also, not sure how the Michael Brown shooting is a political issue.
Title: Re: Obama appeals to his base
Post by: michigancat on October 30, 2014, 01:55:43 PM
Also, not sure how the Michael Brown shooting is a political issue.

It isn't for most white people
Title: Re: Obama appeals to his base
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on October 30, 2014, 01:59:00 PM
Also, not sure how the Michael Brown shooting is a political issue.

It isn't for most white people

Explain why it is a political issue. Seems to me that race relations and the militarization of police forces are bipartisan problems.
Title: Re: Obama appeals to his base
Post by: michigancat on October 30, 2014, 02:03:56 PM
Also, not sure how the Michael Brown shooting is a political issue.

It isn't for most white people

Explain why it is a political issue. Seems to me that race relations and the militarization of police forces are bipartisan problems.

"bipartisan problems" can't be "political issues"?

I honestly have no idea what you're talking about.
Title: Re: Obama appeals to his base
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on October 30, 2014, 02:08:33 PM
Also, not sure how the Michael Brown shooting is a political issue.

It isn't for most white people

Explain why it is a political issue. Seems to me that race relations and the militarization of police forces are bipartisan problems.

"bipartisan problems" can't be "political issues"?

I honestly have no idea what you're talking about.

Right... I'm sure Democrats are just hoping these flyers will prompt blacks to vote their conscience, no matter which party...
Title: Re: Obama appeals to his base
Post by: michigancat on October 30, 2014, 02:54:54 PM
I sincerely have no idea what you're talking about.
Title: Re: Obama appeals to his base
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on October 30, 2014, 03:04:29 PM
I sincerely have no idea what you're talking about.

Democrats are attempting to politicize the Michael Brown shooting by using it to gin up black votes for Democrats, even though voting for Democrats will in no way prevent young black men from stupidly attacking short man syndrome police officers, will in no way prevent arming SMS police officers like Navy SEALs, and will in no way prevent said SMS Navy SEAL police officers from gunning down said young black men.
Title: Re: Obama appeals to his base
Post by: michigancat on October 30, 2014, 03:27:20 PM
I sincerely have no idea what you're talking about.

Democrats are attempting to politicize the Michael Brown shooting by using it to gin up black votes for Democrats, even though voting for Democrats will in no way prevent young black men from stupidly attacking short man syndrome police officers, will in no way prevent arming SMS police officers like Navy SEALs, and will in no way prevent said SMS Navy SEAL police officers from gunning down said young black men.

jeez
Title: Re: Obama appeals to his base
Post by: Cartierfor3 on October 30, 2014, 03:30:21 PM
I didn't actually look at the fliers


EDIT: I looked at them, they're not as bad as the article implied, but still...... kind of fear mongering IMO. My only original point was both parties are often relying on using scenarios that won't happen as a reason for their vote. Probably not directly from the candidates themselves, but from people associated with them.
Title: Re: Obama appeals to his base
Post by: star seed 7 on October 30, 2014, 03:58:17 PM
Ksuw absolutely hates the thought of black people voting, it's quite telling
Title: Re: Obama appeals to his base
Post by: Kat Kid on October 30, 2014, 09:00:23 PM
When you've got nothing left, and you're on your way to losing. Inject race into the equation.

Sad

This always cracks me up.  Race is always in the equation.  It isn't injected in to anything.

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Title: Re: Obama appeals to his base
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on October 30, 2014, 09:59:17 PM
The left needs to conjure up racism and other fantasized problems in order to have some to fear monger against.  Hell, they're even fear mongering against people having to work for a wage. What a bunch of weirdo losers.

All they've done in this thread is validate KSUW's point of view
Title: Re: Obama appeals to his base
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on October 30, 2014, 10:11:05 PM
Well this is embarrassing for fsd

Bro, you're out of your league here.  Stick to the tech support board.
Title: Re: Obama appeals to his base
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on October 31, 2014, 09:07:27 AM
Did I miss the memo on the "honest dialogue on race" been suspended until after the election?

http://www.businessinsider.com/charlie-rangel-some-republicans-believe-that-slavery-isnt-over-2014-10 (http://www.businessinsider.com/charlie-rangel-some-republicans-believe-that-slavery-isnt-over-2014-10)

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Veteran Rep. Charlie Rangel (D-N.Y.) had some harsh words for the Republican Party during a Thursday campaign rally for New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo (D).
 
As he has done repeatedly before, Rangel compared some members of the GOP to confederates from the Civil War era. But at the Thursday evening event, he added that they "believe that slavery isn't over."
 
"We have to win. We have to be able to send a national message with Andrew Cuomo. And the thing is: Everything we believe in — everything we believe in — they hate. They don't disagree — they hate! They think if you didn't come from Europe 30 years ago, you didn't even make it. Some of them believe that slavery isn't over and they and think they won the Civil War!" Rangel shouted.
 
In contrast, Rangel said the Democratic Party is doing "God's work" on issues important to the American people.
 
"And so what we have to do is send a collective voice," he said of the upcoming midterm elections. "Everything we're doing is God's work: education, healthcare, affordable housing, [protecting against] discrimination, paying people the minimum wage." :lol:
Title: Re: Obama appeals to his base
Post by: star seed 7 on October 31, 2014, 09:28:05 AM
Black people talking  :curse: :shakesfist: - ksuw
Title: Re: Obama appeals to his base
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on October 31, 2014, 10:36:10 AM
Tammany Hall tactics are still alive and well in the Democrat Party. Vote, Or Else... http://nypost.com/2014/10/30/democrats-threaten-voters-to-get-to-the-polls/ (http://nypost.com/2014/10/30/democrats-threaten-voters-to-get-to-the-polls/)

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Democrats are telling voters that they had better head to the polls — or else.

The New York State Democratic Committee is bullying people into voting next week with intimidating letters warning that it can easily find out which slackers fail to cast a ballot next Tuesday.

“Who you vote for is your secret. But whether or not you vote is public record,” the letter says.

“We will be reviewing voting records .?.?. to determine whether you joined your neighbors who voted in 2014.”

It ends with a line better suited to a mob movie than a major political party: “If you do not vote this year, we will be interested to hear why not.”


The letter and accompanying post card was criticized even by party members, with one Democratic consultant saying it was the wrong way to inspire votes.

“It’s a threatening letter. It’s a scare piece that is unnecessary and inappropriate,” the insider said.

Brooklyn and Manhattan residents who received the note Wednesday were furious, calling it an attempt to browbeat them into showing up at the polls.

“I’m outraged. Whether I vote or not is none of your business!” said a Manhattan voter, who was so incensed that she complained to a local Democratic leader.

“The letter is ludicrous and menacing,” said the voter, who requested anonymity.

The woman also received a report card of her voting record, pointing out that she had failed to vote in two of the last four elections.

Overall, the notices were sent out to 1 million registered Democrats who had failed to vote in previous midterm elections, according to the group.

The committee — chaired by former Gov. David Paterson — defended the scare tactic, calling it standard practice throughout the country.

“This flier is part of the nationwide Democratic response to traditional Republican voter-suppression efforts, because Democrats believe our democracy works better when more people vote, not less,” said Peter Kauffmann, a committee spokesman.

Here's a copy of the letter.

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Title: Re: Obama appeals to his base
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on October 31, 2014, 11:22:38 AM
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2014/10/30/dnc_wont_denounce_racism_as_campaign_tactic_a_lot_of_different_mechanisms_were_using.html (http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2014/10/30/dnc_wont_denounce_racism_as_campaign_tactic_a_lot_of_different_mechanisms_were_using.html)
Title: Re: Obama appeals to his base
Post by: michigancat on October 31, 2014, 11:35:33 AM
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2014/10/30/dnc_wont_denounce_racism_as_campaign_tactic_a_lot_of_different_mechanisms_were_using.html (http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2014/10/30/dnc_wont_denounce_racism_as_campaign_tactic_a_lot_of_different_mechanisms_were_using.html)

LOL at the headline

The voter intimidation thing is pretty bad, but does that have anything to do with race? It seems like everything else you're posting in this thread has something to do with race.
Title: Re: Obama appeals to his base
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on October 31, 2014, 11:40:17 AM
The voter intimidation thing is pretty bad, but does that have anything to do with race? It seems like everything else you're posting in this thread has something to do with race.

No, that's not a racial one - it's an intimidation one. Democrats' despicable vote turnout tactics run the gamut.
Title: Re: Obama appeals to his base
Post by: ChiComCat on October 31, 2014, 11:47:10 AM
If you didn't mail in your CO ballot in the first week or so, you get a similarly worded letter saying that your neighbors are counting on you to vote.
Title: Re: Obama appeals to his base
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on October 31, 2014, 12:24:40 PM
seems like democrats are fearful the end of racism is near.
Title: Re: Obama appeals to his base
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on October 31, 2014, 12:29:23 PM
If you didn't mail in your CO ballot in the first week or so, you get a similarly worded letter saying that your neighbors are counting on you to vote.

Who is paying for the mailing? Should be printed at the bottom of the letter.

UPDATE: Looks like it's the same Democrat outfit that is sending the NY mailings above. http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/391565/democrats-practice-intimidation-we-have-ways-knowing-if-youve-voted-john-fund (http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/391565/democrats-practice-intimidation-we-have-ways-knowing-if-youve-voted-john-fund)

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The Election Protection committee, the ostensibly “non partisan” group responsible for the mailings, is chaired by former Democratic governor David Patterson. It claims that the tactic is increasingly being used in other states, with similar letters popping up this year in Alaska, North Carolina, Rhode Island, Colorado, and Iowa.

Colorado's new all-mail voting system - only the second state to do this, along with Oregon - is really concerning. It significanlty increases the risk of disenfranchisement with zombie voters and outright fraud. Gardner is currently polling 4-5 points ahead of Mark Uterus - alead that should be pretty much insurmountable with less than 5 days to go. If Mark Ovaries wins, we'll know why.
Title: Re: Obama appeals to his base
Post by: michigancat on October 31, 2014, 12:57:46 PM
The voter intimidation thing is pretty bad, but does that have anything to do with race? It seems like everything else you're posting in this thread has something to do with race.

No, that's not a racial one - it's an intimidation one. Democrats' despicable vote turnout tactics run the gamut.

I love that you think using images of Ferguson is despicable
Title: Re: Obama appeals to his base
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on October 31, 2014, 01:05:03 PM
The voter intimidation thing is pretty bad, but does that have anything to do with race? It seems like everything else you're posting in this thread has something to do with race.

No, that's not a racial one - it's an intimidation one. Democrats' despicable vote turnout tactics run the gamut.

I love that you think using images of Ferguson is despicable

I've already explained why.

Democrats are attempting to politicize the Michael Brown shooting by using it to gin up black votes for Democrats, even though voting for Democrats will in no way prevent young black men from stupidly attacking short man syndrome police officers, will in no way prevent arming SMS police officers like Navy SEALs, and will in no way prevent said SMS Navy SEAL police officers from gunning down said young black men.

And other than to respond with "jeez", you have yet to refute anything I said. The Democrat Party - the party, not some crank fringe group - is exploiting Michael Brown's death to gin up racial tensions and resentment for political purposes, and that is despicable.
Title: Re: Obama appeals to his base
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on October 31, 2014, 01:20:25 PM
Libtards,

Why are you defending and/or attempting to trivialize this? Doing so makes you look like partisan drones.

Your Pal,
Sugar Dick
Title: Re: Obama appeals to his base
Post by: michigancat on October 31, 2014, 01:30:21 PM
Libtards,

Why are you defending and/or attempting to trivialize this? Doing so makes you look like partisan drones.

Your Pal,
Sugar Dick

The mailing people about their voting records is really really bad, as is the lynching flier. I have no issue with using the events of Ferguson or Trayvon Martin for encouraging people to vote. I'm guessing the families of the victims have no issues with it, either.
Title: Re: Obama appeals to his base
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on October 31, 2014, 01:53:45 PM
Libtards,

Why are you defending and/or attempting to trivialize this? Doing so makes you look like partisan drones.

Your Pal,
Sugar Dick

The mailing people about their voting records is really really bad, as is the lynching flier. I have no issue with using the events of Ferguson or Trayvon Martin for encouraging people to vote. I'm guessing the families of the victims have no issues with it, either.

Oh, well, if the families are ok with race-baiting turnout efforts, then it must be ok, right?
Title: Re: Obama appeals to his base
Post by: michigancat on October 31, 2014, 01:58:18 PM
Libtards,

Why are you defending and/or attempting to trivialize this? Doing so makes you look like partisan drones.

Your Pal,
Sugar Dick

The mailing people about their voting records is really really bad, as is the lynching flier. I have no issue with using the events of Ferguson or Trayvon Martin for encouraging people to vote. I'm guessing the families of the victims have no issues with it, either.

Oh, well, if the families are ok with race-baiting turnout efforts, then it must be ok, right?

Only weird racist dudes use the term "race baiting" and have a problem with mentioning a community with racial tensions to encourage blacks to vote.

I was addressing the thought of using images of Martin and Brown (which hasn't happened, as far as I can tell in this thread) as encouragement to vote.
Title: Re: Obama appeals to his base
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on October 31, 2014, 02:11:55 PM
Only weird racist dudes use the term "race baiting" and have a problem with mentioning a community with racial tensions to encourage blacks to vote.

:lol: Ok. Got that everyone? If you've got a problem with "mentioning a community with racial tensions to encourage blacks to vote [Democrat]", then you're a "weird racist dude."

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Title: Re: Obama appeals to his base
Post by: ChiComCat on October 31, 2014, 02:24:44 PM
Part of the reason for the tension is a majority black city is being governed and policed by a majority of white people.  This was able to happen because the black people didn't vote enough.  If they want to change it, they should vote.  That all makes complete sense.  I think you may have posted something saying "Republicans are gunning down black kids" which I agree is extreme.
Title: Re: Obama appeals to his base
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on October 31, 2014, 02:56:01 PM
Part of the reason for the tension is a majority black city is being governed and policed by a majority of white people.  This was able to happen because the black people didn't vote enough.  If they want to change it, they should vote.  That all makes complete sense.  I think you may have posted something saying "Republicans are gunning down black kids" which I agree is extreme.

You may be on to something here. So if I'm understanding you, if black people vote more, they're (using the Democrats' presumption) going to vote more black people into office, which will prevent shootings like what happened to Michael Brown... Yup, I guess that's exactly what has happened in major urban areas across the country!

Sarcasm aside, that doesn't make any sense at all, and it's why this sort of race baiting is reprehensible.
Title: Re: Obama appeals to his base
Post by: ChiComCat on October 31, 2014, 05:06:15 PM
I didn't say it would directly prevent all shootings like Michael Brown.  You will always have some cops with little man syndrome.  They would likely have a more diverse police force and government.  I am saying that there would be less racial tension that would result if black people thought they were equally represented.  The reason they aren't is because they aren't voting so they should vote.

Part of the reason for the tension is a majority black city is being governed and policed by a majority of white people.  This was able to happen because the black people didn't vote enough.  If they want to change it, they should vote.  That all makes complete sense.  I think you may have posted something saying "Republicans are gunning down black kids" which I agree is extreme.
Yup, I guess that's exactly what has happened in major urban areas across the country!

Are you saying that urban areas have black unarmed teens getting gunned down regularly or that there are regularly months-long protests there because of it?
Title: Re: Obama appeals to his base
Post by: gatoveintisiete on October 31, 2014, 09:10:33 PM
 :cheers: to fsd,ksuw, and dax.  It's gotta be hard damn work beating back stupid on a daily basis.  Heroes I say.
Title: Re: Obama appeals to his base
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on November 01, 2014, 10:34:49 AM
Libtards,

Why are you defending and/or attempting to trivialize this? Doing so makes you look like partisan drones.

Your Pal,
Sugar Dick

The mailing people about their voting records is really really bad, as is the lynching flier. I have no issue with using the events of Ferguson or Trayvon Martin for encouraging people to vote. I'm guessing the families of the victims have no issues with it, either.

You think those are partisan issues?  Pathetic
Title: Re: Obama appeals to his base
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on November 01, 2014, 10:37:29 AM
Part of the reason for the tension is a majority black city is being governed and policed by a majority of white people.  This was able to happen because the black people didn't vote enough.  If they want to change it, they should vote.  That all makes complete sense.  I think you may have posted something saying "Republicans are gunning down black kids" which I agree is extreme.

I agree as far as local issues go it's important. Extrapolating this issues to state and federal elections is absurd. As absurd as stating republicans want blacks gunned down in the streets. But in your perverted mind, you think that's reasonable
Title: Re: Obama appeals to his base
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on November 01, 2014, 10:38:38 AM
Libtards,

Why are you defending and/or attempting to trivialize this? Doing so makes you look like partisan drones.

Your Pal,
Sugar Dick

Repost because it appears to be an ongoing issue
Title: Re: Obama appeals to his base
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on November 01, 2014, 11:04:29 AM
seems like democrats are fearful the end of racism is near.

Much like other issues, they create a problem, blame someone else for it, then pretend like they can solve it while actually compounding the problem.  I think it's their mission statement.
Title: Re: Obama appeals to his base
Post by: star seed 7 on November 01, 2014, 12:51:22 PM
Yup, the end of racism is near