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TITLETOWN - A Decade Long Celebration Of The Greatest Achievement In College Athletics History => Jerome Tang Coaches Kansas State Basketball => Topic started by: CHONGS on October 08, 2014, 03:40:10 PM
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COME YE ALL AND POST YE EXPECTATIONS!
I, for one, do NOT think it is unreasonable that the KSU CATS CATS CATS should win the conference. Yes I said it, win the conference. Anything more than 4 conference losses is a NOT GREAT. I mean I won't kill myself if dem Cats lose 5 conference games, but my ass will get a pinkish hue. 6 losses you say? Still not a disaster, but disappointing. SEVEN LOSES?! Signal the red ass alarm because my ass will be smoking.
ADDITIONALLY!
I demand, DEMAND, an NCAA tournament win. I will not be greedy this year and request two as would be expected of a conference champion, but I will be sated with one.
If, I Chingon F. Kayessyou, get out of line later this year with regards to expectations please fling this directly into my face.
Any additional conditions rendered by myself in this thread (and it only officially counts in this thread) should be considered appended in addition to the above! This is contingent on the time stamp of the aforementioned post being BEFORE the start of the basketball season (men's).
:bball:
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top 3/4 in conference and either a conf tourny champy or the second weekend of "the big dance".
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2 out of the following:
top third of the conference
top 5 seed
conference tournament championship
sweet 16
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Big 12 champs or bust!
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great season.....if:
Hurt rumored to be out of shape out of juco....only played 15 mins/game. Why? Fat?
Malik and Wesley rumored to have added weight. eating pudding cups kinda weight or kc strips kinda weight?
Edwards rumored to be some basketball god of an athlete. won't fill expectations? Uh oh.......
Thomas' FT shooting....can he bring it up from .0876548% to the 30% range, at least...which is still sucky?
Jack Krap.......oh well, nevermind...
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Great thread Chingon!
Team Expectations:
1) An entertaining brand of basketball (subjective, evaluated by my Peggy Po's/Nancy Neg's column)
2) non-con:
-Win all Home and the Home/Neutral game vs. A&M
-3rd Place or better in Maui
-Continue to own the Beach
3) conference:
-at least 3rd place
-Win 8/9 of home games
-Win 6/9 of road games
4) tourney(s):
-play to seed
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My expectations will met with a top 3 finish and win in the torn a ment.
I too believe this team has potential to contend in what I think will be a conference without a great team.
If oscar loses in the first round again he should walk back to MHK from which ever site he shames us.
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I want to win in the Allen Pisshouse.
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I will view anything less than a conference championship and sweet 16 birth as a failure.
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Just remember what you write in here is written in STONE. STONE that might get thrown back in your face if you a) whine despite the team exceeding your expectos or b) go all Iowan on us and start accepting less.
DISCLAIMER:
Yes I know I am not I) an Athletic Director and II) nothing posted in here really matters in the big scheme of things, and III) we are all likely dumb asses (especially me). This is for fun and for me to throw things back into people faces so I can win at the internet when it comes to KSU sports related matters.
Thank you for your cooperation.
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Elite 8, conference co-true-champs
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top 5 seed
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Compete for the big 12 (i.e. finish in lead or one game behind).
Win a NCAA Tourney game (preferably against Wisconsin)
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Minimum S16. B12 Co-champs. Top 3 seed. :cool:
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Top 20 the entire year(after the first couple games of course).
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Top 3 in the Big 12, and S16.
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Make ISU complain about being screwed by the refs in both games we play. Hoi loses crap mid game in conf tourney as we shoot a bunch of FTs.
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Undefeated the entire season
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1st game loss in NCAA tourney, oscar keeps the streak going...
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Be a top 15 team and play like one. Thats it.
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We should be .500 after Muai. We will be known as Ass-stompers during non-con. We will win the Big 12 war due to our adaptability to play differnt syles, depth, experinced players who have played together, and our masters of death who can kill off other teams at will such as Foster. The Birdies will be plucked twice. We will be playing at least to elite 8. Weber gets more love.
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I would say top 3 of Big 12 but conference play is going to be brutal this year. I will go with a Sweet 16 appearance.
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expect oscar Explore And Test All Rational Boundaries Of Coaches Box "BEATARBOCB"
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Safely making the NCAA tournament is all I care about every year. This year is no different. I don't really care if they win a game or not.
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Thursday at the big 12, ncaa bid, ranked. This will be tough but if oscar is as good as I think he is, he will pull these off. His challenge will be getting consistent offense out of these cats, if he has to use Marcus at the point that will be a bad sign. oscar will have to work some serious magic and either find one or two more proficient shooters on the perimeter, find a way to get points in the paint against quality teams, or have recruited well enough to fill these shortcomings. If he meets some of the higher expectos in this thread he will prolly be coach of the year.
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We should be .500 after Muai. We will be known as Ass-stompers during non-con. We will win the Big 12 war due to our adaptability to play differnt syles, depth, experinced players who have played together, and our masters of death who can kill off other teams at will such as Foster. The Birdies will be plucked twice. We will be playing at least to elite 8. Weber gets more love.
I personally expect us to lose at least 3 or 4 games in the regular season.
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I personally expect us to lose at least 3 or 4 games in the regular season.
i mean you will have to play the masters of death twice
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I personally expect us to lose at least 3 or 4 games in the regular season.
i mean you will have to play the masters of death twice
We play baylor as well as each other conference team twice. I dont follow.
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cats get a top 2 spot regardless, other spot TBD
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Safely making the NCAA tournament is all I care about every year. This year is no different. I don't really care if they win a game or not.
Yea this is where I'm at.
It seems like some of you don't know the difference between expectations and hopes.
I expect to go to the tournament. I hope for a big 12 championship and the second/third weekend of the tourney.
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top 3 finish in confy
big 12 championship game
top 4 seed in ncaa
sweet 16
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Some of us just have higher expectations :th_twocents:
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Safely making the NCAA tournament is all I care about every year. This year is no different. I don't really care if they win a game or not.
Yea this is where I'm at.
It seems like some of you don't know the difference between expectations and hopes.
I expect to go to the tournament. I hope for a big 12 championship and the second/third weekend of
the tourney.
That's not what he said idiot. He doesn't care if they win a game. Not caring if if your team wins a game in the tournament is rough ridin' gross btw.
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3rd place conference finish. 2nd round NCAA exit (not the first round that they call the second round but the real second round that's played on Sat,Sun)
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-don't care about conference finish, unless it's 1st.
-2nd weekend of NCAA's
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Top 3 in conference.
Win a tourney game. (preferable to make it to S16)
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Safely making the NCAA tournament is all I care about every year. This year is no different. I don't really care if they win a game or not.
Yea this is where I'm at.
It seems like some of you don't know the difference between expectations and hopes.
I expect to go to the tournament. I hope for a big 12 championship and the second/third weekend of
the tourney.
That's not what he said idiot. He doesn't care if they win a game. Not caring if if your team wins a game in the tournament is rough ridin' gross btw.
I agree with M'Cat in expecting the tournament. From there I was addressing other posters. I care very much if we win in the tournament, that's why I said I'm hoping for the second/third weekend.
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how people don't care if we even win a single game in the tournament is beyond me.
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Safely making the NCAA tournament is all I care about every year. This year is no different. I don't really care if they win a game or not.
:thumbs:
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how people don't care if we even win a single game in the tournament is beyond me.
Yeah, this.
Making tourney runs is great. See 2010.
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Top 3 conference finish and 2nd full weekend of NCAA tourney
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Who, besides KU, is good or good enough that finishing 3rd is acceptable, given what we return? the Drews? Hoibergs?
Also, I really dislike people that don't put any weight on what we do in conference.
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11-2 noncon
13-5 con
2 W's Big XII Tourn
4 Seed
3 W's "Dance"
29 Wins, Wow!
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Sweet-16
Top 3 in conference
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Who, besides KU, is good or good enough that finishing 3rd is acceptable, given what we return? the Drews? Hoibergs?
Also, I really dislike people that don't put any weight on what we do in conference.
Barnes looks like he he is getting it back together. I won't ever be surprised if Hugs or Lonnie has a top 3ish squad. This conference won't likely have any elite teams but only TCU and TT look to be bad.
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how many times do we play long beach this year?
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wtf, this season? - i expect us to get to the s16. i expect us to finish top 3 in the conference and play on friday.
we don't know much about this team yet though, i hope they live up to my expectations.
vs s. utah - W
vs umkc - W
@ long beach st - W
@ maui, purdue - W
@ maui, mu/zona - W
@ maui, pitt/sdsu - L
vs steve dave - W
@ tennessee - W
vs bradley - W
vs savanah state - W
vs sprint center A&M - W
vs texas southern - W
vs dumbstick - W
@ osu - L
vs tcu - W
@ ou - W
vs tech - W
vs baylor - W
@ walking taco - W
vs OSU - W
vs huggins- W
@ ku - L
@ tech - W
vs texas - W
@ huggins - L
vs ou - W
@ tcu - W
@ baylor - L
vs ku - W
vs isu - W
@ texas - L
25-6
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wtf, this season? - i expect us to get to the s16. i expect us to finish top 3 in the conference and play on friday.
we don't know much about this team yet though, i hope they live up to my expectations.
vs s. utah - W
vs umkc - W
@ long beach st - W
@ maui, purdue - W
@ maui, mu/zona - W
@ maui, pitt/sdsu - L
vs steve dave - W
@ tennessee - W
vs bradley - W
vs savanah state - W
vs sprint center A&M - W
vs texas southern - W
vs dumbstick - W
@ osu - L
vs tcu - W
@ ou - W
vs tech - W
vs baylor - W
@ walking taco - W
vs OSU - W
vs huggins- W
@ ku - L
@ tech - W
vs texas - W
@ huggins - L
vs ou - W
@ tcu - W
@ baylor - L
vs ku - W
vs isu - W
@ texas - L
25-6
:love: Would take!
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2 expectations
1. Beat KU by at least 25 both times in season
2. Win a game in March Madness.
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So the Royals will be ending their season right about the time K-State baskeball is starting? I may never be fully invested in football season this year.
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So the Royals will be ending their season right about the time K-State baskeball is starting? I may never be fully invested in football season this year.
just think if sams was still here though
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Hopeful for Top 3 and Sweet 16.
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So the Royals will be ending their season right about the time K-State baskeball is starting? I may never be fully invested in football season this year.
just think if sams was still here though
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how people don't care if we even win a single game in the tournament is beyond me.
Yeah, this.
Making tourney runs is great. See 2010.
Of course it's great. But coaches shouldn't be judged for their performance in a single elimination tournament. If oscar is getting us into the tournament every year, he's doing fine, and anything beyond that is just gravy.
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how people don't care if we even win a single game in the tournament is beyond me.
Yeah, this.
Making tourney runs is great. See 2010.
Of course it's great. But coaches shouldn't be judged for their performance in a single elimination tournament. If oscar is getting us into the tournament every year, he's doing fine, and anything beyond that is just gravy.
He needs to get us in the position to makes runs, i.e. getting a good seed.
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Go undefeated at home.
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how people don't care if we even win a single game in the tournament is beyond me.
Yeah, this.
Making tourney runs is great. See 2010.
Of course it's great. But coaches shouldn't be judged for their performance in a single elimination tournament. If oscar is getting us into the tournament every year, he's doing fine, and anything beyond that is just gravy.
He needs to get us in the position to makes runs, i.e. getting a good seed.
I think if you're getting into the tourney every year those seasons will happen on their own. No one gets in as a ten seed every year with any consistency.
So basically, my requirements aren't that different than yours, I just don't worry about year to year specifics or judge an entire season (or career) based on the results of one or two games
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how people don't care if we even win a single game in the tournament is beyond me.
Yeah, this.
Making tourney runs is great. See 2010.
Of course it's great. But coaches shouldn't be judged for their performance in a single elimination tournament. If oscar is getting us into the tournament every year, he's doing fine, and anything beyond that is just gravy.
He needs to get us in the position to makes runs, i.e. getting a good seed.
I think if you're getting into the tourney every year those seasons will happen on their own. No one gets in as a ten seed every year with any consistency.
So basically, my requirements aren't that different than yours, I just don't worry about year to year specifics or judge an entire season (or career) based on the results of one or two games
my post season expectations for this year are based on the fact that he didn't win a game last year or the year before. sooner or later we need to win a game or two.
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how people don't care if we even win a single game in the tournament is beyond me.
Yeah, this.
Making tourney runs is great. See 2010.
Of course it's great. But coaches shouldn't be judged for their performance in a single elimination tournament. If oscar is getting us into the tournament every year, he's doing fine, and anything beyond that is just gravy.
He needs to get us in the position to makes runs, i.e. getting a good seed.
I think if you're getting into the tourney every year those seasons will happen on their own. No one gets in as a ten seed every year with any consistency.
So basically, my requirements aren't that different than yours, I just don't worry about year to year specifics or judge an entire season (or career) based on the results of one or two games
my post season expectations for this year are based on the fact that he didn't win a game last year or the year before. sooner or later we need to win a game or two.
I get it, it just isn't that important to me because I don't think it's a good way tot judge the coach or direction of the program. I'm fine with it being important to you, though.
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my expectation is that they entertain me (in a good way)
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Gonna win 'em all!
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Who, besides KU, is good or good enough that finishing 3rd is acceptable, given what we return? the Drews? Hoibergs?
Also, I really dislike people that don't put any weight on what we do in conference.
Are you serious?
OU will be good, ISU will be good, UT will be good. You know, the teams we finished behind last year.
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I expect us to be good and spend a considerable amount of time in the top 25. The conference is pretty sucky, so we'll win that. Hopefully, we advance far in the tournament
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Who, besides KU, is good or good enough that finishing 3rd is acceptable, given what we return? the Drews? Hoibergs?
Also, I really dislike people that don't put any weight on what we do in conference.
Are you serious?
OU will be good, ISU will be good, UT will be good. You know, the teams we finished behind last year.
I guess I expect us to get better (given what we return) and ISU and OU to not be as good (given what they lost). UT, I suppose. forgot about myles turner.
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how people don't care if we even win a single game in the tournament is beyond me.
Yeah, this.
Making tourney runs is great. See 2010.
Of course it's great. But coaches shouldn't be judged for their performance in a single elimination tournament. If oscar is getting us into the tournament every year, he's doing fine, and anything beyond that is just gravy.
He needs to get us in the position to makes runs, i.e. getting a good seed.
I think if you're getting into the tourney every year those seasons will happen on their own. No one gets in as a ten seed every year with any consistency.
So basically, my requirements aren't that different than yours, I just don't worry about year to year specifics or judge an entire season (or career) based on the results of one or two games
my post season expectations for this year are based on the fact that he didn't win a game last year or the year before. sooner or later we need to win a game or two.
I get it, it just isn't that important to me because I don't think it's a good way tot judge the coach or direction of the program. I'm fine with it being important to you, though.
Well at some point to have to win in the tournament. I mean, the tournament is the only thing that matters in college basketball. Why on earth would you not judge a coached based on the tournament? I'm fine with it not mattering to you but it really needs to matter to you because I'm not fine with it.
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I expect us to do work.
SON
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Who, besides KU, is good or good enough that finishing 3rd is acceptable, given what we return? the Drews? Hoibergs?
Also, I really dislike people that don't put any weight on what we do in conference.
Are you serious?
OU will be good, ISU will be good, UT will be good. You know, the teams we finished behind last year.
I guess I expect us to get better (given what we return) and ISU and OU to not be as good (given what they lost). UT, I suppose. forgot about myles turner.
what is it that you think we return?
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Who, besides KU, is good or good enough that finishing 3rd is acceptable, given what we return? the Drews? Hoibergs?
Also, I really dislike people that don't put any weight on what we do in conference.
Are you serious?
OU will be good, ISU will be good, UT will be good. You know, the teams we finished behind last year.
I guess I expect us to get better (given what we return) and ISU and OU to not be as good (given what they lost). UT, I suppose. forgot about myles turner.
what is it that you think we return?
The Big 12's best player, Marcus Foster.
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Who, besides KU, is good or good enough that finishing 3rd is acceptable, given what we return? the Drews? Hoibergs?
Also, I really dislike people that don't put any weight on what we do in conference.
Are you serious?
OU will be good, ISU will be good, UT will be good. You know, the teams we finished behind last year.
I guess I expect us to get better (given what we return) and ISU and OU to not be as good (given what they lost). UT, I suppose. forgot about myles turner.
what is it that you think we return?
4/5 starters, one of which is preseason all big 12.
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Well at some point to have to win in the tournament. I mean, the tournament is the only thing that matters in college basketball. Why on earth would you not judge a coached based on the tournament?
Small sample size and your performance is basically a crapshoot.
I mean, if it's all that matters, why would you accept anything less than winning the whole damn thing?
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My expectations are that we beat KU and don't rush the court. I know it's fun and all, but it should be an expectation by now. :gocho:
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Who, besides KU, is good or good enough that finishing 3rd is acceptable, given what we return? the Drews? Hoibergs?
Also, I really dislike people that don't put any weight on what we do in conference.
Are you serious?
OU will be good, ISU will be good, UT will be good. You know, the teams we finished behind last year.
I guess I expect us to get better (given what we return) and ISU and OU to not be as good (given what they lost). UT, I suppose. forgot about myles turner.
what is it that you think we return?
4/5 starters, one of which is preseason all big 12.
come on, lets do this
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Who, besides KU, is good or good enough that finishing 3rd is acceptable, given what we return? the Drews? Hoibergs?
Also, I really dislike people that don't put any weight on what we do in conference.
Are you serious?
OU will be good, ISU will be good, UT will be good. You know, the teams we finished behind last year.
I guess I expect us to get better (given what we return) and ISU and OU to not be as good (given what they lost). UT, I suppose. forgot about myles turner.
I could see ISU being really good that have a lot of pieces that have a chance to be really good players, one thing that they don't have that Fred has always is quality amount of good shooters. They are changing their offense this year because of that. This could be Fred's most athletic team, maybe they finally defend.
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My same expectations I've had since we had Frank, challenge for regular conference title, win at least one tourny conference game, and make it to the second weekend of NCAAs. FWIW I was totally down on last year's team before we even played a game, I'm that up about this year's team. I haven't been this excited for a basketball season since 2011.
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It all.
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Expectations need to be set with a ceiling and a floor. For instance, we should make the tourney every year and one in every four we should reach a sweet 16. Also we should be fun to watch.
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Yeah definitely need a ceiling for our expectations that they had better not even think of exceeding
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B12 trophy or bust
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My expectations are that we beat KU and don't rush the court. I know it's fun and all, but it should be an expectation by now. :gocho:
:thumbs: except down
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My expectations are that to make a push for the final four. Whether we make it or not.
Others include Big 12 title and beating KU a majority of the times we play them.
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Top 3 in conference. Sweet 16.
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I expect top 3/4 in conference and a second round exit. I hope for better.
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Nov 14 vs SUU W
Nov 17 vs UMKC W
Nov 21 @ LBSU W
Nov 24 @ PUR W (is oscar required to weare ahawaaian shirt
Dec 2 vs UNO W
Dec 6 @ TENN W
Dec 9 vs BRAD W
Dec 14 vs SAV W
Dec 20 vs TA&M W
Dec 28 vs TXSO W
Dec 31 vs UGA W
Jan 3 @ OKST W
Jan 7 vs TCU W
Jan 10 @ OKLA W
Jan 14 vs TTU W
Jan 17 vs BAY W
Jan 20 @ ISU W
Jan 24 vs OKST W
Jan 27 vs WVU W
Jan 31 @ KU W
Feb 4 @ TTU W
Feb 7 vs TEXAS W
Feb 11 @ WVU W
Feb 14 vs OKLA W
Feb 18 @ TCU W
Feb 21 @ BAY W
Feb 23 vs KU W
Feb 28 vs ISU W
Mar 7 @ TEXAS W
RD OF 64 W
kewl 32 W
sweet 16 W
sweet 8 W
elite mega W
the "big one" W
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I expect the cats to do good and compete and represent our university well!
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I expect the cats to do good and compete and represent our university well!
whoa there easy does it
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I will be 100% honest: I will meltdown and be super pissed if we lose any noncon games. Is that rational? No. Should
I? Probably not, but that's just where I'm at this morning.
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Last year, we swept TCU and Tech and we got swept by Baylor. We split with everyone else. I think this year is exactly the same, except we win one vs Baylor. 11-7.
I think a reasonable goal is 11-2 in noncon. This includes 4-2 overall in the three games in Maui, the roadie to Tenn, the neutral vs A&M and the home game vs UGA, along with Sweeping all thescrubs.
22-9 going into the Big 12 tourney and solidly in the NCAA field.
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Regular Season Conference Champs.
Two NCAA tournament wins.
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Teams we'll sweep in conf: tcu, ttu, wvu, ut, osu.
Team we'll probably split with: bu, ou, ku, isu
Assuming we go 13-1, or whatevs, ooc and 14-4 conf., we should be ~29-6 (1 or 2 wins and or a loss in the big 12) a 2 or a 3 seed in the ncaa. Would be a good year and good shot at the S16
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Teams we'll sweep in conf: tcu, ttu, wvu, ut, osu.
Team we'll probably split with: bu, ou, ku, isu
Assuming we go 13-1, or whatevs, ooc and 14-4 conf., we should be ~29-6 (1 or 2 wins and or a loss in the big 12) a 2 or a 3 seed in the ncaa. Would be a good year and good shot at the S16
We will sweep BU, we also should be a bad match up for ISU this year.
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Teams we'll sweep in conf: tcu, ttu, wvu, ut, osu.
Team we'll probably split with: bu, ou, ku, isu
I doubt we sweep Texas.
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I'd be disappointed if we weren't to make it to the Sweet 16. I feel like we have the team to do it.
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have there been any reports from practice??
we have started practicing, yes??
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it sounds like you're looking for some real basketball meat to chew on.
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winning NCAA tourney games is the most fun you can have during a CBB season
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winning NCAA tourney games is the most fun you can have during a CBB season
how about picking up a fresh, piping hot waldo pizza right before tip-off? chugging milk, eating pizza, and watching the cats. my gosh i think i just had a heart attack.
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have there been any reports from practice??
we have started practicing, yes??
yep practice has started. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ch4WsiJIBvw
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Great thread Chingon!
Team Expectations:
1) An entertaining brand of basketball (subjective, evaluated by my Peggy Po's/Nancy Neg's column)
2) non-con:
-Win all Home and the Home/Neutral game vs. A&M
-3rd Place or better in Maui
-Continue to own the Beach
3) conference:
-at least 3rd place
-Win 8/9 of home games
-Win 6/9 of road games
4) tourney(s):
-play to seed
This guy "gets it." Huge ditto for me on this. Play to the seed!
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I want our performance to be good enough this year that the expectation is a conference championship next year.
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1 - oscar will coach em up and we'll finish 3rd in conference.
2 - oscar will coach em up and we'll lose in the second round of the Big 12 tournament.
3 - oscar will coach em up and we'll lose to LaSalle in the Big Dance with oscar inexplicably keeping a timeout in his back pocket.
4 - Shirt tucks will emphasize how oscar is superior in all ways that conservative, white pasties predictably would.
5 - Sane people will miss Frank.
6 - Insane people will tell sane people to move on.
:th_twocents:
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1 - oscar will coach em up and we'll finish 3rd in conference.
2 - oscar will coach em up and we'll lose in the second round of the Big 12 tournament.
3 - oscar will coach em up and we'll lose to LaSalle in the Big Dance with oscar inexplicably keeping a timeout in his back pocket.
4 - Shirt tucks will emphasize how oscar is superior in all ways that conservative, white pasties predictably would.
5 - Sane people will miss Frank.
6 - Insane people will tell sane people to move on.
:th_twocents:
I hope you're wrong.
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Woof! I don't think Cleveland has watched basketball since 2010. Also, La Salle is supposed to suck this year. :th_twocents:
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Woof! I don't think Cleveland has watched basketball since 2010. Also, La Salle is supposed to suck this year. :th_twocents:
:love:
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1 - oscar will coach em up and we'll finish 3rd in conference.
2 - oscar will coach em up and we'll lose in the second round of the Big 12 tournament.
3 - oscar will coach em up and we'll lose to LaSalle in the Big Dance with oscar inexplicably keeping a timeout in his back pocket.
4 - Shirt tucks will emphasize how oscar is superior in all ways that conservative, white pasties predictably would.
5 - Sane people will miss Frank.
6 - Insane people will tell sane people to move on.
:th_twocents:
Nice to know that the BID team is still on fire.
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:popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:
I want to win in the Allen Pisshouse.
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Have you ever seen those little braille plaques by the bathroom in a big box store. Do they expect some poor blind guy to grope around for hours feeling the wall to find the restroom? This is the I way am right now. I am excited about this coming year! If I don't get live action soon and quit fumbling around to find real meat I am going to have a bladder blowout.
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Woof! I don't think Cleveland has watched basketball since 2010. Also, La Salle is supposed to suck this year. :th_twocents:
:love:
I'm having a hard time letting go guys. BUT, I do think my third place predicted finish for the Webercats is fairly optimistic.
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My expectation: compete for the league title. Finish no lower than KU.
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Individually, I am expecting a bigger year from Wes. He has put on 10 to 15 pounds of muscle. He is suppose to be an inch taller. His passing skills and shooting remain good. IMO he will double his offensive numbers. Also he is pissed that he is not getting attention.
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sounds good bud
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Edwards lives up to the hype being heaped. The Robinett article at Kansas.com is a good read. Weber's comment are similar sounding to the he made about Foster prior to the start of last season.
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1) Top 3 finish in Big 12
2) top 4 seed in the NCAA
3) make it to the 2nd weekend.
If we made it to the Sweet 16, it will get a good year. I just want to get to that spot and see what happens.
IMO, this is a top 20 BB team. That should be able to get a 4/5 seed and hopefully win 2 games and play in the Sweet 16 game.
It's early and premature, but I believe we will be a top 10 team in 2015-16. And will be as good as the 2009-10 team
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ANYTHING ABOVE THIS LINE IS LOCKED IN
All right, here we go! Looks like we're off to a bumpy ride for some! Things could get thrown in the face very soon if we start seeing some sliding expectations trickle in.
By the way, for fun, three games into this nascent season kenpom predicts for the baller cats:
Projected record: 16-13 8-10
:blank: :blindfold:
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Hey Chingon. If you go back and look at my expectations you will see that for the non-con I had 3 expectations. One of them we have not met (continue to own the beach) but that was the least important one!
If we beat Zona we will achieve priority #2 and priority #1 is probably the easiest one to meet so that is pretty good!
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Hey Chingon. If you go back and look at my expectations you will see that for the non-con I had 3 expectations. One of them we have not met (continue to own the beach) but that was the least important one!
If we beat Zona we will achieve priority #2 and priority #1 is probably the easiest one to meet so that is pretty good!
That is pretty good! Yo have not been face-thrown yet because you haven't slid on expectos yet.
yet.
but when that does happen.
Boooooooooom
what is that?
oh, just a post thrown back at very high velocity into kat kids face, who probably now needs cyber-surgery to repair the damage that was done to his internet cred
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I think we are capable of winning the next 9 games. This is the rest of the non cons and the first two conference games. I am concerned we are down to a 2 big man team again this year as Bolden in a non factor.
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Tenn looked longer and more athletic than us today v KU and they will have a week to work on doubling gip. I just hope we break the double nickel at this point.
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Individually, I am expecting a bigger year from Wes. He has put on 10 to 15 pounds of muscle. He is suppose to be an inch taller. His passing skills and shooting remain good. IMO he will double his offensive numbers. Also he is pissed that he is not getting attention.
This has proven to be completely wrong. He can't shoot, those supposed ten to fifteen pounds have not made one difference. I'm disappointed in Wes.
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Get me to bubble status 8 teams out and that might make my season now. Long stretch, but I need drama.
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Great thread Chingon!
Team Expectations:
1) An entertaining brand of basketball (subjective, evaluated by my Peggy Po's/Nancy Neg's column)
2) non-con:
-Win all Home and the Home/Neutral game vs. A&M (STILL POSSIBLE!)
-3rd Place or better in Maui (NOPE!)
-Continue to own the Beach (NOPE!)
3) conference:
-at least 3rd place (STILL POSSIBLE!)
-Win 8/9 of home games (STILL POSSIBLE!)
-Win 6/9 of road games (STILL POSSIBLE!)
4) tourney(s):
-play to seed (STILL POSSIBLE!)
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Get me to bubble status 8 teams out and that might make my season now. Long stretch, but I need drama.
This is depressing, but true.
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WTF? What is it? 8yrs erased? 9?
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I'm changing my prediction to last in the Big 12 and a CBI invitation.
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I'm changing my prediction to last in the Big 12 and a CBI invitation.
I dont think we'll get an invite anywhere. :frown:
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I'm changing my prediction to last in the Big 12 and a CBI invitation.
I dont think we'll get an invite anywhere. :frown:
The CBI is pretty much a pay to play tournament, so it could happen. I would hope if this program is ever in that situation that they'll decline.
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So it is a known goal that 20 wins gives you a chance at he NCAA. . .how many more games do we need to win to make the NIT?
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So it is a known goal that 20 wins gives you a chance at he NCAA. . .how many more games do we need to win to make the NIT?
I'm not sure 20 wins is a good standard anymore for the NCAA since everyone plays some sort of holiday/preseason tournament.
You've got to be above .500 and have some decent wins to get selected by the NIT. The NIT has their own selection committee with seeding now, so you just don't get invited if it looks like you can sell tickets for home games as a power 5 school.
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So it is a known goal that 20 wins gives you a chance at he NCAA. . .how many more games do we need to win to make the NIT?
I'm not sure 20 wins is a good standard anymore for the NCAA since everyone plays some sort of holiday/preseason tournament.
You've got to be above .500 and have some decent wins to get selected by the NIT. The NIT has their own selection committee with seeding now, so you just don't get invited if it looks like you can sell tickets for home games as a power 5 school.
Lame. I used to think that the NIT was more about teams that had talented players on teams with recognizable brands who underperformed all year.
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So it is a known goal that 20 wins gives you a chance at he NCAA. . .how many more games do we need to win to make the NIT?
I'm not sure 20 wins is a good standard anymore for the NCAA since everyone plays some sort of holiday/preseason tournament.
You've got to be above .500 and have some decent wins to get selected by the NIT. The NIT has their own selection committee with seeding now, so you just don't get invited if it looks like you can sell tickets for home games as a power 5 school.
Lame. I used to think that the NIT was more about teams that had talented players on teams with recognizable brands who underperformed all year.
I think it pretty much is now. Plus mid majors that win their league, but not their league tournament.
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CBI :Yuck:
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We'd have to win the rest of OOC and then go 12-6 in conference just to get to 20 wins. Think about that for a sec and realized how truly effed we are.
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We'd have to win the rest of OOC and then go 12-6 in conference just to get to 20 wins. Think about that for a sec and realized how truly effed we are.
We would have to become the most inaccurate KenPom analysis/prediction in history, right?
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We'd have to win the rest of OOC and then go 12-6 in conference just to get to 20 wins. Think about that for a sec and realized how truly effed we are.
We would have to become the most inaccurate KenPom analysis/prediction in history, right?
I doubt it, we still have 2/3 of the season left.
Also, while I'm pretty discouraged about how this season has started, I think this team will get better. Probably not NCAA tournament, but I think .500 in the league is still a reasonable expectation.
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So. . .we get swept by KU, UT, and ISU and split with Baylor, West Virginia, and OU. That puts our conference record at 9-9.
Final record 18-13.
Top 4 seed in the NIT.
Extra home game at the Fred. :excited: :bball:
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So. . .we get swept by KU, UT, and ISU and split with Baylor, West Virginia, and OU. That puts our conference record at 9-9.
Final record 18-13.
Top 4 seed in the NIT.
Extra home game at the Fred. :excited: :bball:
:frown:
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Hey, we can pull a WSU and win the NIT then come back next year and SHOCK THE WORLD. :crossfingers:
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We'd have to win the rest of OOC and then go 12-6 in conference just to get to 20 wins. Think about that for a sec and realized how truly effed we are.
We would have to become the most inaccurate KenPom analysis/prediction in history, right?
I doubt it, we still have 2/3 of the season left.
Also, while I'm pretty discouraged about how this season has started, I think this team will get better. Probably not NCAA tournament, but I think .500 in the league is still a reasonable expectation.
I agree. I really think this team will get better as the year progresses. I am really hoping a combination of having a lot of new faces, and a lot of road games to start the season are causing the problems. I'm hoping that a few "easier" home games will allow the players to establish their roles and figure out how to run the offense together.
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We'd have to win the rest of OOC and then go 12-6 in conference just to get to 20 wins. Think about that for a sec and realized how truly effed we are.
We would have to become the most inaccurate KenPom analysis/prediction in history, right?
I doubt it, we still have 2/3 of the season left.
Also, while I'm pretty discouraged about how this season has started, I think this team will get better. Probably not NCAA tournament, but I think .500 in the league is still a reasonable expectation.
I agree. I really think this team will get better as the year progresses. I am really hoping a combination of having a lot of new faces, and a lot of road games to start the season are causing the problems. I'm hoping that a few "easier" home games will allow the players to establish their roles and figure out how to run the offense together.
My faint reasons for some semblance of optimism...
Opponent's eFG% and 2PT% (and thus overall defensive efficiency to a lesser extent) are well above any other oscar team except when he was at Southern Illinois. I think in Big 12 play this will come back down (improve) toward his average. I think this group is having trouble with all the man pressure concepts he and Lowery use and eventually they will get it.
One key feature of oscar's success as a coach has been 3 PT shooting and its reasonable to expect this team to be a solid 3PT shooting team and one of the best oscar has had. We know that Foster can shoot, hopefully Harris earns more minutes because he is a weapon, and Johnson and Thomas look to be improved enough to be threats. Edwards is struggling a lot, but he's 2-5 of his last 3 games, so maybe that's a sign he's figuring things out a bit.
Our rate of TOs (currently 22%) should improve as well. Only 3 other oscar teams have finished over 20% for TOs, I think our guards will get better and with it our offense overall. We are shooting, boarding, and getting to the FT line at solid rates, TOs are really the biggest problem right now.
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Dang, I expect this team to win, especially at home big time. Break out the super oscar Juice we are headed for 5th in the Big 12, and an seeded 11 in tournament. If not, then things will get uglier.
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#BID
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#BID
light the fire now
Gonna win 'em all!
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how is this team supposed to be "better" as it works its way through the Big 12? We are the only team with 4 losses in the big12, the next closest is OU @ 6-2...and then everyone else has one loss...except freaking TCU which is undefeated.
I just....yeah, we can shoot it better from 3, we can defend better, we can turn it over less....but we'll be doing it against arguably a tougher schedule. And it isn't like we've been able to take Brucesketball on the road, we're something like 6-15 in away/neutral games over the last two years (and last year our only conf wins on the road were TCU and Tech). We really haven't played very good basketball for a while now. Since the beginning of February of last year, we're 10-11.
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We will overcome this adversity and be giving oscar a lot of credit by the end of this thing
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We will overcome this adversity and be giving oscar a lot of credit by the end of this thing
I won't be
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Minimum S16. B12 Co-champs. Top 3 seed. :cool:
eff you Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) :flush:
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oscar is pretty good at overcoming self-inflicted wounds
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I expect us to beat Savannah State.
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.500 in the conference with this dumpster fire? :lol:
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Good teams have beaten Savannah State by at least 40 points this year, something tells me that we might not be a good team.
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Is there a reason Tre Harris hasn't gotten much PT the last few games?
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oscar Weber's lineups are rough ridin' insane sometimes.
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Did we play today?
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We'd have to win the rest of OOC and then go 12-6 in conference just to get to 20 wins. Think about that for a sec and realized how truly effed we are.
1 down!
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just gotta one game at a time this thing, take care of business in #DOOM, keep sawing that lumber, etc
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top 3 finish in confy
big 12 championship game
top 4 seed in ncaa
sweet 16
welp
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top 3 finish in confy
big 12 championship game
top 4 seed in ncaa
sweet 16
welp
The only thing impossible now is the top 4 seed. The rest is still possible. "Anything is possible man." - Direct quote from oscar to Currie
Not an actual quote. But I imagined it, so it was a direct quote. . .from my imagination. *inception music*
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top 3 finish in confy
big 12 championship game
top 4 seed in ncaa
sweet 16
welp
The only thing impossible now is the top 4 seed. The rest is still possible. "Anything is possible man." - Direct quote from oscar to Currie
Not an actual quote. But I imagined it, so it was a direct quote. . .from my imagination. *inception music*
so weird
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No one reads your tiny text, yard dog.
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No one reads your tiny text, yard dog.
"Not an actual quote. But I imagined it, so it was a direct quote. . .from my imagination. *inception music*"
Not so sneaky yard dog.
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(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Frs252.pbsrc.com%2Falbums%2Fhh28%2Fphilalmae%2Flowexpectations.gif%7Ec200&hash=8407fd3e83567cd2cda5a497425f826a3bd46900)
OH ZIGGY! YOU SKEWERED OUR FANBASE TO THE BONE!
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Could someone please start a thread full of Ziggy comics with oscar's face photoshopped over Ziggy's? TIA
(https://dummr.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/ziggy-3-17-13-lg.jpg)
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lol
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oscar Weber's lineups are rough ridin' insane sometimes.
I wish this was the real problem. There are actual solutions to this. Unfortunately, it is more than lineups.
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As long as we beat aTm and UGA I'm not giving up on this team making the NCAA tourney. :comeatme:
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As long as we beat aTm and UGA I'm not giving up on this team making the NCAA tourney. :comeatme:
Reasonable stance from a reasonable poster.
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No thanks to K-State, but the Big 12 has established itself as the #1 conference in RPI and winning % so far in noncon. That makes it at least a 5 bid, and possibly a 6 or 7 bid league.
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Well there is one OOC game left. It's not looking good to meet anyone's expectos is it?
Is this the biggest difference in expecto and results in modern KSU sports history? I suppose last years baseball team was pretty high up there too. Probably still football 2001.
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Well there is one OOC game left. It's not looking good to meet anyone's expectos is it?
Is this the biggest difference in expecto and results in modern KSU sports history? I suppose last years baseball team was pretty high up there too. Probably still football 2001.
It was no where near this level, but 2010-2011 basketball should probably be on the list going from #3 preseason to a 5 seed.
Something somewhat near this level is 2004 football going from top 15 preseason to 4-7
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Well there is one OOC game left. It's not looking good to meet anyone's expectos is it?
Is this the biggest difference in expecto and results in modern KSU sports history? I suppose last years baseball team was pretty high up there too. Probably still football 2001.
Time will tell
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i don't think the expectations were very high the two seed year.
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its amazing how bad this team is so far. This is, without exaggeration, a Wooly level team (right now). Worst KSU team in about ten years.
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I'll have lots of tickets available for townies. Free!
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I'll have lots of tickets available for townies. Free!
:ksu:
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:emawkid:
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I would say top 3 of Big 12 but conference play is going to be brutal this year. I will go with a Sweet 16 appearance.
:'bye cruel world:
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My expectations are that to make a push for the final four. Whether we make it or not.
Others include Big 12 title and beating KU a majority of the times we play them.
:bawl:
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My expectations will met with a top 3 finish and win in the torn a ment.
I too believe this team has potential to contend in what I think will be a conference without a great team.
If oscar loses in the first round again he should walk back to MHK from which ever site he shames us.
wow, looks like it was a hell of a good Wednesday at the office
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Safely making the NCAA tournament is all I care about every year. This year is no different. I don't really care if they win a game or not.
Well, I guess there's a lot of games left.
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my expectation is that they entertain me (in a good way)
damned qualifier
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Last year, we swept TCU and Tech and we got swept by Baylor. We split with everyone else. I think this year is exactly the same, except we win one vs Baylor. 11-7.
I think a reasonable goal is 11-2 in noncon. This includes 4-2 overall in the three games in Maui, the roadie to Tenn, the neutral vs A&M and the home game vs UGA, along with Sweeping all thescrubs.
22-9 going into the Big 12 tourney and solidly in the NCAA field.
Bah. I was WAY over-optimistic. Sheesh.
Not only is this not going to happen, but we are in very real danger of being the worst team in the league. Did not see this coming.
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my expectation is that they entertain me (in a good way)
damned qualifier
:lol:
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Be a top 15 team and play like one. Thats it.
I guess that's not true for ole Mixed-Nutz anymore!
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Be a top 15 team and play like one. Thats it.
I guess that's not true for ole Mixed-Nutz anymore!
rough ridin' sucks. Every thing we heard about Newcomers ends up being bullshit. oscar can't mange a locker room.
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Looking back through the expectations really makes me sad. :cry: I don't think they were unreasonable. Most of us just wanted a NCAA bid and top 3/4 of the conference. :bawl:
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None of them were unreasonable at all. oscar is just a bullshit coach doing a bullshit job. A better coach would have met all of our expectations this season.
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Sweet-16
Top 3 in conference
I'm sorry you did this to yourself.
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None of them were unreasonable at all. oscar is just a bullshit coach doing a bullshit job. A better coach would have met all of our expectations this season.
mine were pretty unreasonable and I knew it at the time
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2 out of the following:
top third of the conference
top 5 seed
conference tournament championship
sweet 16
Heh
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It will end.
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hopefully sooner, rather than later
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I want our performance to be good enough this year that the expectation is a conference championship next year.
I tried to leave quite a bit of wiggle room in my expectations, but oscar still made a fool of me.