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If so, how? In what aspects? Honest question for any HFBIQ people out there. To me, he looks like the exact same player as last year. The stats seem to bear that out.
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I agree with the above statement. There hasn't been really any noticeable difference in his play from last year to this year, so far.
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He hasn't been the player we saw against Michigan yet.
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He's more confident, more patient with his runs, and fairly more accurate.
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Welp, I will say he has gotten marginally better at throwing it away. Marginally.
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fairly more accurate
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If so, how? In what aspects? Honest question for any HFBIQ people out there. To me, he looks like the exact same player as last year. The stats seem to bear that out.
I think he's much more comfortable in the pocket (sometimes he's a little too comfortable), and he looks much better running the football on broken plays. His short passes are more accurate as well. I think the reason we haven't seen a big jump in production can be attributed partly to the loss of TT, a gimpy Lockett, and a shitty running game. Having said that, he should definitely be playing better so far despite those factors.
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Shocking comments from Iowacat08 :flush:
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His armhair is longer, if that's what you're asking.
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Okay, I can buy the improved running thing. He's certainly been asked to run MORE. I honestly don't see any difference in terms of his accuracy.
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He is calling more plays on his own at the line of scrimmage and managing the clock a lot better. K-State is throwing about 5% more of the time, but we lead the league in TOP which is helping our defense. The Cats are averaging slightly less YPP, but more PPP than last year's team, but more importantly turning it over at a much lower rate.
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He is calling more plays on his own at the line of scrimmage and managing the clock a lot better. K-State is throwing about 5% more of the time, but we lead the league in TOP which is helping our defense. The Cats are averaging slightly less YPP, but more PPP than last year's team, but more importantly turning it over at a much lower rate.
The clock management has been just :love:. Don't think this has been talked about enough.
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Shocking comments from Iowacat08 :flush:
Not really. I'm just not a dumbass.
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How many turnovers have we created? 2 not including blocked punts? :sdeek:
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Gotta agree that Jake Waters is a nice little 8-4, 7-5 type quarterback.
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yes, i believe hes making better decisions and is more accurate.
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How many turnovers have we created? 2 not including blocked punts? :sdeek:
3. 1 in each of our first 3 games.
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Gotta agree that Jake Waters is a nice little 8-4, 7-5 type quarterback.
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He is calling more plays on his own at the line of scrimmage and managing the clock a lot better. K-State is throwing about 5% more of the time, but we lead the league in TOP which is helping our defense. The Cats are averaging slightly less YPP, but more PPP than last year's team, but more importantly turning it over at a much lower rate.
What are the stats on turnovers, _Fan? I'm just curious.
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I don't remember him running as well as he did in Ames at any point in 2013
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Only like 1 or 2 h3o's I think
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I don't remember him running as well as he did in Ames at any point in 2013
When you're sharing snaps with #LIFE you're probably going to look pretty slow. I bet all of Swagwood's assistant coaches look much more attractive when he isn't standing right beside them.
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He is calling more plays on his own at the line of scrimmage and managing the clock a lot better. K-State is throwing about 5% more of the time, but we lead the league in TOP which is helping our defense. The Cats are averaging slightly less YPP, but more PPP than last year's team, but more importantly turning it over at a much lower rate.
No offense to the posts that followed this one. But any response other than "Welp" and a :buh-bye: are not needed.
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i like waters. he's getting better every day.
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Seems to be less fainting goat than last year.
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This is exactly what I thought our offense would have probably looked like if we actually made Marc Dunn the full time starter in 2002.
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But I should add that I think Waters is a better runner than Dunn. But roughly the same arm.
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He's tucking it when he should. Good accuracy. Not turning it over.
100% not his fault we lost to Auburn. He's improved.
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He's tucking it when he should. Good accuracy. Not turning it over.
100% not his fault we lost to Auburn. He's improved.
Not even 1% huh?
Not his fault he fumbled inside the 25 on our 1st possession. Not his fault we couldn't score TD's and settled for FG's. Good grief :buh-bye:
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He doesn't have "it". Also, he is pretty bad in the pocket when under pressure. Other than that I don't really have a problem with him.
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I wish we had better shitty posters.
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I wish we had a better QB :dunno:
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Gotta agree that Jake Waters is a nice little 8-4, 7-5 type quarterback.
This. He is an avg big 12 qb.
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Gotta agree that Jake Waters is a nice little 8-4, 7-5 type quarterback.
This. He is an avg big 12 qb.
that's pretty good for k-state
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Gotta agree that Jake Waters is a nice little 8-4, 7-5 type quarterback.
This. He is an avg big 12 qb.
that's pretty good for k-state
I suppose. hopefully he's good enough to make big 12 honorable mention this year.
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Gotta agree that Jake Waters is a nice little 8-4, 7-5 type quarterback.
This. He is an avg big 12 qb.
that's pretty good for k-state
I suppose. hopefully he's good enough to make big 12 honorable mention this year.
If he isn't, we're going to be terrible.
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Jake is a throwback to KSU QB's who were pretty good, but could never lead the team to wins over anybody who was really good.
I mean, it's almost like Jake should be wearing a Cooper Bowl windbreaker on the sidelines, maybe a 1995 Holiday Bowl hat.
Oh, and he's not a high stepper, because we all know how much Dana Dimel hates that got damn high stepping.
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His accuracy is still really terrible, but at least the throws are catchable (for less yardage and tds than they should be) instead of 10ft overhead or in the dirt.
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His accuracy is still really terrible, but at least the throws are catchable (for less yardage and tds than they should be) instead of 10ft overhead or in the dirt.
Compared to what? He throws it at 62% with a gimpy/stone hands lockett and a bunch of other shitty guys we throw out there.
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Compared to good college qbs
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Jesus Wacky, the only reason people even know who Jake Waters is is because of Lockett :facepalm:
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Much much better running as far as the eye test goes, imo. I don't cringe and curse as often when he runs now.
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Jesus Wacky, the only reason people even know who Jake Waters is is because of Lockett :facepalm:
You're a rough ridin' horrible poster and it's well know on this board, so we all know you're a complete dumbass. I'll just never understand the butthurt spradling syndrome we have for Waters. Other than he chased off the sexy athletic qb that he beat out who shares time with a fcs team now. :Ugh:
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Even the Big12 coaches knew who the better QB was. Perhaps you should put an app in for the ku job since you are smarter than all of them :excited:
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Yes. Better pocket presence
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You should sit threads like this out fanning, you're not capable of objectively looking at waters related performances
#Life should sit out every thread
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Jake is always going to be pretty dependent on what's happening around him. The o-line has to be able to establish a ground game (Charles Jones is a perfectly fine running back, just needs some goddamn holes to run through), and we need another receiver to be able to get some kind of separation on a consistent basis. If those things happen, we might challenge for the conference. If not, then we'll probably be closer to Zacker's prediction. He's just a product of the talent around him.
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Jake is always going to be pretty dependent on what's happening around him. The o-line has to be able to establish a ground game (Charles Jones is a perfectly fine running back, just needs some goddamn holes to run through), and we need another receiver to be able to get some kind of separation on a consistent basis. If those things happen, we might challenge for the conference. If not, then we'll probably be closer to Zacker's prediction. He's just a product of the talent around him.
Yeah, I guess this is my point too. He's just not the talent to overcome our other limitations. This is a slightly above average team lead by a slightly above average qb.
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Jesus Wacky, the only reason people even know who Jake Waters is is because of Lockett :facepalm:
If Lockett had made the easy catch in the endzone, Jake would be the QB of a top 10 team and we would love him.
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His game at ISU was the best game he has played, by far.
We are missing Thompson big-time this year. Other than Lockett, the receivers we have been playing depend on schemes to get open.
I'm still hopeful that J. Jones or Davis comes on strong.
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I liked what I saw from Judah late in that game. He's got some really nice speed. GET HIM THE BALL!
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I liked what I saw from Judah late in that game. He's got some really nice speed. GET HIM THE BALL!
I agree, someone should have waters stare him down from "hike".
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He's scheduled correctly at a 75% clip thus far this season.
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Even the Big12 coaches knew who the better QB was. Perhaps you should put an app in for the ku job since you are smarter than all of them :excited:
Plot twist: they were playing us, trying to put pressure on our staff to play the QB who clearly couldn't run a game plan in entirety. :horrorsurprise:
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i really wish we had taller and more athletic receivers. like waters had at junior college. at junior college.
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He is calling more plays on his own at the line of scrimmage and managing the clock a lot better. K-State is throwing about 5% more of the time, but we lead the league in TOP which is helping our defense. The Cats are averaging slightly less YPP, but more PPP than last year's team, but more importantly turning it over at a much lower rate.
What are the stats on turnovers, _Fan? I'm just curious.
Last year we had 1 turnover every 33.1 plays and an INT every 12.6 pass attempts. This year we have 1 turnover every 55.4 plays and an INT every 23.6 pass attempts. Last year we scored .52 points per play, this year we score .57 points per play. Granted, we aren't getting quite as many big plays (6.08 YPP this year, 6.32 YPP last), but we are more efficient in every other way. And the lower YPP combined with better PPP is probably a good thing right now because it is a sign of better TOP which IMO helps this team.
Granted, all of this is with a limited sample size, but a Top 10 team at home, an okay mid major, and a below average league opponent on the road through 1/4 of the season is a decent measure of a team.
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an int every 12.4 sounds pretty bad when presented like that
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an int every 12.4 sounds pretty bad when presented like that
It was, early in the year it was terrible.
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His game at ISU was the best game he has played, by far.
No it's actually the bowl game.
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His game at ISU was the best game he has played, by far.
No it's actually the bowl game.
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quit talking about the bowl game. michigan is a train wreck
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You're right carnes, Iowa state is better than them. So is OU, where he threw all over them.
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His game at ISU was the best game he has played, by far.
No it's actually the bowl game.
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quit talking about the bowl game. michigan is a train wreck
Regardless it was his best game. He hasn't played a great game vs a top 40 team.
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Is play calling and routes Waters fault. It seems like that's a lot of the problem.
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His game at ISU was the best game he has played, by far.
No it's actually the bowl game.
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He played well in the bowl game, no doubt. But, in reality, most of the people on this board could've hit Lockett in that game.
At ISU, I thought he showed some toughness and spirit (Snyder words) that I had never seen before. I mean, last year he fumbled upon contacting a butt. At Iowa State this year, he got rocked multiple times and hung on to the ball. I hope we see that Jake Waters again this season. (Like, from here on out.)
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so jake gets credit for now not fumbling on contact? oh, well eff me, that's 1st team all big 12 criteria if I've ever seen it.
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The difference is in the Iowa State game Jake played like crap before he played pretty good.
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How many turnovers have we created? 2 not including blocked punts? :sdeek:
great time to have tacos tech coming in wouldnt you say brad?
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Waters is ok. He's never going to be the QB that leads a team to a conference championship or anything. I agree with the "average Big 12 QB" and "7-5 or 8-4" type QB. I think he has gotten better than last year. at least better than his beginning of last year. that was about as awful as someone could begin a season though.
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I think some of you are being a little dramatic. Enjoy his arm, dorks.
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gotta love wacky dropping dork bombs on all deez dorks
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gotta love wacky dropping dork bombs on all deez dorks
i buy all my posts at the dork store
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I think some of you are being a little dramatic. Enjoy his arm, dorks.
This. Waters is fine. He's an upper-half QB. certainly good enough to win 8 or 9 games. We'll learn a lot about him in the next few games.
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I think some of you are being a little dramatic. Enjoy his arm, dorks.
Is a "his arm" like a special sex toy for all the ladies out there?
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I think some of you are being a little dramatic. Enjoy his arm, dorks.
Is a "his arm" like a special sex toy for all the ladies out there?
It's a rough ridin' lethal weapon that can strike at any moment.
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It looks like he's scheduled 3 likely wins out of the next 4 games.
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Queso has as good an arm as Waters. Waters is not terrible, but it's debatable that he's in the upper half of the Big 12 no? Well lets see:
Clearly better:
Knight
Petty
Trickett
Arguably better:
Boykin
Garman
Webb
Clearly worse:
Swoopes
Richardson
Cozart
I'd say he's smack dab in the middle if being positive, and power thirdish if being negative.
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Boykin is not as good as jake. Other than that I have to agree
Garmen has a great deep ball but sucks in short throws
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Queso has as good an arm as Waters. Waters is not terrible, but it's debatable that he's in the upper half of the Big 12 no? Well lets see:
Clearly better:
Knight
Petty
Trickett
Arguably better:
Boykin
Garman
Webb
Clearly worse:
Swoopes
Richardson
Cozart
I'd say he's smack dab in the middle if being positive, and power thirdish if being negative.
yeah, this is good analysis
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Ching's analysis right now is correct and the numbers show it. Jake is mid-pack at best in Total QBR and traditional QB rating mainly because he hasn't thrown a ton of TDS (3-3 TD:INT) His YPA is a decent 8.2, but down from last year.
But turning the ball over less is a big deal and this team still has very nice points per play numbers right now (3rd in the Big 12), solid yards per play (over 6 is always good), and that's after clearly leaving 16 points on the field vs Auburn. Surprisingly, we're relying on the run to score in the redzone (2nd in the Big 12 in rush TDs at 16), led by Jones with 8 TDs mostly out of the wildcat. My concern is the efficiency of the offense and I think so far it has been solid and that's with Waters having more freedom to check plays at the line of scrimmage as any K-State QB that I can remember.
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Ching's analysis right now is correct and the numbers show it. Jake is mid-pack at best in Total QBR and traditional QB rating mainly because he hasn't thrown a ton of TDS (3-3 TD:INT) His YPA is a decent 8.2, but down from last year.
But turning the ball over less is a big deal and this team still has very nice points per play numbers right now (3rd in the Big 12), solid yards per play (over 6 is always good), and that's after clearly leaving 16 points on the field vs Auburn. Surprisingly, we're relying on the run to score in the redzone (2nd in the Big 12 in rush TDs at 16), led by Jones with 8 TDs mostly out of the wildcat. My concern is the efficiency of the offense and I think so far it has been solid and that's with Waters having more freedom to check plays at the line of scrimmage as any K-State QB that I can remember.
QBR is stupid because it doesn't adjust to different systems. Our lack of offensive rhythm is our problem, not Jakes talent level.
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Queso has as good an arm as Waters. Waters is not terrible, but it's debatable that he's in the upper half of the Big 12 no? Well lets see:
Clearly better:
Knight
Petty
Trickett
Arguably better:
Boykin
Garman
Webb
Clearly worse:
Swoopes
Richardson
Cozart
I'd say he's smack dab in the middle if being positive, and power thirdish if being negative.
Trickett, Garman and Webb are not better than Waters.
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Queso has as good an arm as Waters. Waters is not terrible, but it's debatable that he's in the upper half of the Big 12 no? Well lets see:
Clearly better:
Knight
Petty
Trickett
Arguably better:
Boykin
Garman
Webb
Clearly worse:
Swoopes
Richardson
Cozart
I'd say he's smack dab in the middle if being positive, and power thirdish if being negative.
Trickett, Garman and Webb are not better than Waters.
Trickett, by any measure, has clearly performed better than Waters. ESPECIALLY considering the competition.
http://espn.go.com/college-football/player/_/id/501098/clint-trickett
http://espn.go.com/college-football/player/_/id/550158/jake-waters
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Garmen has a great deep ball but sucks in short throws
yes, reminds me a lot of Waters last year. Also, a little of Waters this year :frown:
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Garmen has a great deep ball but sucks in short throws
yes, reminds me a lot of Waters last year. Also, a little of Waters this year :frown:
Who does this Garmen guy play for? :dunno: Never heard of him.
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Garmen has a great deep ball but sucks in short throws
yes, reminds me a lot of Waters last year. Also, a little of Waters this year :frown:
Who does this Garmen guy play for? :dunno: Never heard of him.
are you calling someone out on a spelling error? :dunno:
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Garmen has a great deep ball but sucks in short throws
yes, reminds me a lot of Waters last year. Also, a little of Waters this year :frown:
Who does this Garmen guy play for? :dunno: Never heard of him.
are you calling someone out on a spelling error? :dunno:
:peek:
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Garmen has a great deep ball but sucks in short throws
yes, reminds me a lot of Waters last year. Also, a little of Waters this year :frown:
Who does this Garmen guy play for? :dunno: Never heard of him.
are you calling someone out on a spelling error? :dunno:
:peek:
The only QB that is clearly better than Waters is Petty. LOL at Knight being better. Knight is going to get exposed this year. Remember that at one point this dude was sitting while Blake Bell played.
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Garmen has a great deep ball but sucks in short throws
yes, reminds me a lot of Waters last year. Also, a little of Waters this year :frown:
Who does this Garmen guy play for? :dunno: Never heard of him.
are you calling someone out on a spelling error? :dunno:
:peek:
i don't care about the spelling of a backup poke qbs name. Sorry not sorry
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Garmen has a great deep ball but sucks in short throws
yes, reminds me a lot of Waters last year. Also, a little of Waters this year :frown:
Who does this Garmen guy play for? :dunno: Never heard of him.
are you calling someone out on a spelling error? :dunno:
:peek:
The only QB that is clearly better than Waters is Petty. LOL at Knight being better. Knight is going to get exposed this year. Remember that at one point this dude was sitting while Blake Bell played.
you have to be a sock, nobody is that dumb
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Garmen has a great deep ball but sucks in short throws
yes, reminds me a lot of Waters last year. Also, a little of Waters this year :frown:
Who does this Garmen guy play for? :dunno: Never heard of him.
are you calling someone out on a spelling error? :dunno:
:peek:
The only QB that is clearly better than Waters is Petty. LOL at Knight being better. Knight is going to get exposed this year. Remember that at one point this dude was sitting while Blake Bell played.
I don't think this is possible unless Trickett gets hurt. Trickett is a much better fit for what WVU wants to do then Waters is for us - there is a reason for all the wildcat we run in the redzone
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you have to be a sock, nobody is that dumb
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Jake is a rhythm guy that can be really, really good, or really, really mediocre when he's not "feeling it".
The one big positive for him, in my opinion, is that he throws a really nice deep ball on a fairly consistent basis. That was critical last year because you had two guys (Lockett, Thompson) that could really penalize a defense deep. Now that we only have one legitimate deep threat, we're seeing Jake have to rely more and more on an intermediate passing game, and that is not his strong suit, therefore, you're seeing his YPA drop.
Jake can make some throws that the average college QB can't make. He's actually pretty decent throwing when flushed from the pocket, and there's really no throw that I feel he couldn't make. There is a quick strike ability there where we can score within 5-7 plays and within 1-2 minutes that I can't recall with another QB. Those are his strengths, IMO.
However, when he's not feeling it, he lacks touch, throws balls into windows that don't really exist, and worst of all, he tends to sail passes over the middle. I honestly can't remember the last time I saw him throw a red zone fade where I thought, "Wow, that was nice."
My hope is that Jake just takes a while to warm up, like he did last year, when we got to the seventh game against WVU.
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I don't think the Waters deserves the blame, In fact I don't know why everybody won't be extreme upset with the staff on how they handled the whole waters situation.
1. Taking Waters over Marshall was a terrible decision. :chainsaw:
2. Having Sams take snaps away from Waters was also stupid. Sams fits our system better but doesn't have the body to make it through the season. It was just bad luck. :bang:
3. I don't think we run our offense in a manner that helps maximize Jake's skill set. Wish we would try to have more rhythm and let Jake in groove. We need to open up the run game with his arm not the other way around.
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I don't think the Waters deserves the blame, In fact I don't know why everybody won't be extreme upset with the staff on how they handled the whole waters situation.
1. Taking Waters over Marshall was a terrible decision. :chainsaw:
2. Having Sams take snaps away from Waters was also stupid. Sams fits our system better but doesn't have the body to make it through the season. It was just bad luck. :bang:
3. I don't think we run our offense in a manner that helps maximize Jake's skill set. Wish we would try to have more rhythm and let Jake in groove. We need to open up the run game with his arm not the other way around.
1. I don't think they wanted to take one over the other. Based on everything we've read here, it looks like we preferred Marshall, and Marshall wanted us. It was the whole Klien/Del/Jake relationship that pushed him to us at the eleventh hour.
2. I think the preferred scenario would have been Marshall for two years, Sams for one year, and then whatever happens next. But it is what it is.
3. I don't think Jake has the accuracy in the short and intermediate passing game that will allow us to have a possession passing game. I don't think you want that.
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I don't think the Waters deserves the blame, In fact I don't know why everybody won't be extreme upset with the staff on how they handled the whole waters situation.
1. Taking Waters over Marshall was a terrible decision. :chainsaw:
2. Having Sams take snaps away from Waters was also stupid. Sams fits our system better but doesn't have the body to make it through the season. It was just bad luck. :bang:
3. I don't think we run our offense in a manner that helps maximize Jake's skill set. Wish we would try to have more rhythm and let Jake in groove. We need to open up the run game with his arm not the other way around.
1. I don't think they wanted to take one over the other. Based on everything we've read here, it looks like we preferred Marshall, and Marshall wanted us. It was the whole Klien/Del/Jake relationship that pushed him to us at the eleventh hour.
2. I think the preferred scenario would have been Marshall for two years, Sams for one year, and then whatever happens next. But it is what it is.
3. I don't think Jake has the accuracy in the short and intermediate passing game that will allow us to have a possession passing game. I don't think you want that.
He ran the Air-Raid in JUCO and was an MVP quality player. :dunno:
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I don't think the Waters deserves the blame, In fact I don't know why everybody won't be extreme upset with the staff on how they handled the whole waters situation.
1. Taking Waters over Marshall was a terrible decision. :chainsaw:
2. Having Sams take snaps away from Waters was also stupid. Sams fits our system better but doesn't have the body to make it through the season. It was just bad luck. :bang:
3. I don't think we run our offense in a manner that helps maximize Jake's skill set. Wish we would try to have more rhythm and let Jake in groove. We need to open up the run game with his arm not the other way around.
1. I don't think they wanted to take one over the other. Based on everything we've read here, it looks like we preferred Marshall, and Marshall wanted us. It was the whole Klien/Del/Jake relationship that pushed him to us at the eleventh hour.
2. I think the preferred scenario would have been Marshall for two years, Sams for one year, and then whatever happens next. But it is what it is.
3. I don't think Jake has the accuracy in the short and intermediate passing game that will allow us to have a possession passing game. I don't think you want that.
He ran the Air-Raid in JUCO and was an MVP quality player. :dunno:
Ehh...much like here, he heavily relied on a WR that was just better than everyone else.
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I'm not going to get mad at our coaching staff for recruiting the best JUCO QB (statistically) of all time. :gocho:
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I don't think the Waters deserves the blame, In fact I don't know why everybody won't be extreme upset with the staff on how they handled the whole waters situation.
1. Taking Waters over Marshall was a terrible decision. :chainsaw:
2. Having Sams take snaps away from Waters was also stupid. Sams fits our system better but doesn't have the body to make it through the season. It was just bad luck. :bang:
3. I don't think we run our offense in a manner that helps maximize Jake's skill set. Wish we would try to have more rhythm and let Jake in groove. We need to open up the run game with his arm not the other way around.
1. I don't think they wanted to take one over the other. Based on everything we've read here, it looks like we preferred Marshall, and Marshall wanted us. It was the whole Klien/Del/Jake relationship that pushed him to us at the eleventh hour.
2. I think the preferred scenario would have been Marshall for two years, Sams for one year, and then whatever happens next. But it is what it is.
3. I don't think Jake has the accuracy in the short and intermediate passing game that will allow us to have a possession passing game. I don't think you want that.
you should have just stopped with "based on everything we've read here"
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I think the Del/Jake/Klein relationship has been overplayed, but I think Waters committing was a factor. I also think Malzahn offering him a scholarship (at Arkansas State) before anyone else factored in as well.
http://www.montgomeryadvertiser.com/story/sports/college/auburn/2014/09/17/six-weeks-impacted-nick-marshall-auburn-football/15810593/
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I think the Del/Jake/Klein relationship has been overplayed, but I think Waters committing was a factor. I also think Malzahn offering him a scholarship (at Arkansas State) before anyone else factored in as well.
http://www.montgomeryadvertiser.com/story/sports/college/auburn/2014/09/17/six-weeks-impacted-nick-marshall-auburn-football/15810593/
I think any time you get one JUCO QB to commit, others are going to scramble because this is really their last shot at becoming a starting QB somewhere.
Conversely, if Marshall had committed to us before Jake, he may have ended up at Penn State, and maybe Gus comes in later and Nick goes to Auburn.
I still think Jake can have a good season. He's on pace for nearly 3400 yards of total offense thus far, so if he picks it up from here, it's pretty much gravy.
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FWIW, I met Jake at a bar in OKC when he, Sexton, Trujillo and others were going to Padre over Spring Break. (Trujillo is from here, so they stayed at his parents place apparently). After jawing it up for about 15 minutes, I finally asked about the upcoming season. Literally, and I swear on my life, told him "You better not crap your pants against Auburn."
His response? "Oh, you know I won't man. I got it." Did you, Jake? :dubious:
Also, I told him I went to the Ok State game last year in Stillwater. He goes "Yeah, I barely played. It sucked."
I almost said "Except that fumble....", but I didn't want to be a COMPLETE dick. He was a great dude.
Just thought I'd pass that along.
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Maybe you should @ him that story.
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Maybe you should @ him that story.
Nah he's concentrating on Tech, I assume.
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I have no doubts Jake is a pretty swell person. I don't think anybody does.
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I have no doubt that he's a piece of crap person.
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And I don't think he's a bad QB, he's just a low-ceiling high-floor kind of guy. If you have enough talent around this can be a good thing (think recent Alabama QBs) because they don't make horrible mistakes very often (high-floor). The definition of competent. But when push comes to shove and things are falling apart or a miracle play is needed he's gonna hit that ceiling.
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yeah, I don't think he's very likeable. the name of his fantasy football team was very unlikeable person'ish. the fawning over paul rhodes on twitter. the ISU dream school stuff. the tinder stuff. the way he plays football all unconfident'ly (fumble ball, stare at ball). I mean, I don't think I would like to hang out with him at all. I hope he gets really good at football soon though. I would like that a lot.
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yeah, I don't think he's very likeable. the name of his fantasy football team was very unlikeable person'ish. the fawning over paul rhodes on twitter. the ISU dream school stuff. the tinder stuff. the way he plays football all unconfident'ly (fumble ball, stare at ball). I mean, I don't think I would like to hang out with him at all. I hope he gets really good at football soon though. I would like that a lot.
:lol:
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yeah, I don't think he's very likeable. the name of his fantasy football team was very unlikeable person'ish. the fawning over paul rhodes on twitter. the ISU dream school stuff. the tinder stuff. the way he plays football all unconfident'ly (fumble ball, stare at ball). I mean, I don't think I would like to hang out with him at all. I hope he gets really good at football soon though. I would like that a lot.
don't forgetting patting Auburn players' asses after they tackle him. This isn't friendship circle, it's football.
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yeah, I don't think he's very likeable. the name of his fantasy football team was very unlikeable person'ish. the fawning over paul rhodes on twitter. the ISU dream school stuff. the tinder stuff. the way he plays football all unconfident'ly (fumble ball, stare at ball). I mean, I don't think I would like to hang out with him at all. I hope he gets really good at football soon though. I would like that a lot.
don't forgetting patting Auburn players' asses after they tackle him. This isn't friendship circle, it's football.
eff YA
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I am one tough sonofabitch, and I mean business, clams.
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Too harsh methinks.
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He should've picked up more from Sams on being a good person while he had the opportunity.